WEBVTT - Jackie Tohn

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody. I feel like that's that's like the scientists

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<v Speaker 1>from Simpsons. I could be wrong, though, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's my impersonation for the day. All Right, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have been great. We'll see you next week. How's everyone

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<v Speaker 1>doing feeling good? Well? If not, I got something for

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<v Speaker 1>you today. I've done a lot of episodes. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>gone and counted how many episodes we've done in the

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<v Speaker 1>Welles Cast, but it's got to be over a hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>And then in my radio career, I've done thousands of interviews.

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed everybody from actors to musicians, to comics, to chefs,

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<v Speaker 1>to authors, to mediums and everyone in between. And the

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<v Speaker 1>trick to a good interview really is figuring out a

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<v Speaker 1>way that makes the listener feel like they're a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversation. And you can do that in a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of ways. I mean, one way, you can literally

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the listener, which is what a radio DJ

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<v Speaker 1>does between songs every break. You can have a musician

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<v Speaker 1>come on and play something that is so touching that

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<v Speaker 1>the listener feels moved by the piece. You can inter

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<v Speaker 1>you someone and they can tell such an intimate story

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<v Speaker 1>about themselves that everyone can relate and you also can

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<v Speaker 1>do it by energy. And I say that because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>This is going back to my radio days, but everyone

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<v Speaker 1>is having a day when they're listening to the radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially when I had my morning show. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>hard show to do because everyone felt like crap. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's seven in the morning, you're driving to some terrible

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<v Speaker 1>nine of five that you don't want to do. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to deal with your crap boss and Karen from accounting,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to get people to feel good before

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<v Speaker 1>they have to feel bad. And so you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>come with solid energy. And you never know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get when you do interviews for morning shows,

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<v Speaker 1>but you try to book things that will be uplifting

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<v Speaker 1>and positive and fun and funny and energetic and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess all that to be said. I wish I

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<v Speaker 1>had this person on my show back when I did

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<v Speaker 1>a morning show, because if you were feeling like crap

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<v Speaker 1>and hungover and drowsy and just not wanting to go

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<v Speaker 1>into work, then you heard this interview, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>your day would turn around early do at least that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I felt going out of the interview. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like Oh, I feel so much better. Her energy was bonkers.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so positive and funny and fun and lighthearted

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<v Speaker 1>and inclusive. If you're a good interviewer, you're also a listener,

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<v Speaker 1>right you know, you're part of the audience. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I just hope that you guys out there feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that I did, because I absolutely love this interview.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, she is hosting a show on Netflix which

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<v Speaker 1>is a cooking show called Best Leftovers Ever, which basically

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<v Speaker 1>gets a bunch of amazing cooks in and they give

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<v Speaker 1>them leftovers from the refrigerator and they say, Okay, now

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go make something special. And it's an

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<v Speaker 1>awesome show and it's perfect for right now because well,

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<v Speaker 1>we are all stuck at home. We really can't go out,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've got leftover post Mates and we're just like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do? I don't know. She's also on

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<v Speaker 1>a little show called Glow on Netflix, which if you

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<v Speaker 1>guys haven't watched Glow, I don't. That's a you problem

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<v Speaker 1>because it's phenomenal. But she's been around forever. It's on

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<v Speaker 1>American Idol, was on All That, Do you guys remember that?

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<v Speaker 1>Back the day. It's also on the show with the boys.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you guys seen done a lot. She's an amazing actress, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>She's a phenomenal host, an incredible singer, a fantastic stand

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<v Speaker 1>up five to a player. She can do it all.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling you, guys, this is one interview you

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to want to miss. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have Jackie Tone on the show. Let's stick around,

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<v Speaker 1>roll it. This is a Wells cast with Wells Adams

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<v Speaker 1>and I Heart Radio podcast. Can you hear me? We

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<v Speaker 1>are here. I should put headphones in. Maybe I should

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<v Speaker 1>have prepared for this moment a little better. No, you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing great. Whatever feels right to you. Ask before we

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<v Speaker 1>continue that you agree to send me the dog with

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<v Speaker 1>the ears you want him? You want the real one?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you want the picture that's your dog? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's downstairs sleeping right now. He will look up this

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<v Speaker 1>interview at some point and start howling. Don't worry, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>because so will my dog, and so will my boyfriend's dog.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the mailman comes, it's game my dog, Glenn.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sleeping on four blankets right now, So if anybody

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<v Speaker 1>else wanted a blanket, they can go. Yeah, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my dog, Carl. I do appreciate that both of us

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<v Speaker 1>have very personified dog names. You better watch it. Your

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<v Speaker 1>dog's name is Carl. Yeah, he's Carl the Bloodhound. You

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<v Speaker 1>can follow him on Instagram if you want. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of those people. We don't need to get into why

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<v Speaker 1>I did it, but it happened, so Glenn Son, obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we should have an Instagram. And now I've had him

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<v Speaker 1>so long. The fact that he's like starting now, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, it feels like a weird call. So then

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well, I feel like I really missed the

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<v Speaker 1>boat on that one. Glen. You don't have an Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>and here we are. There's a sweet story too. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not like one of those like crazy narcissistic dog owners

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<v Speaker 1>that just pedals their dog for maybe I am. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I went on a reality show where

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<v Speaker 1>they took your phone away from you, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>freaking out about my I've been there with the no phone,

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<v Speaker 1>no computer, no contact with the outside world, and used

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<v Speaker 1>to lie to everybody and tell them you're off the grid,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, bitch, you live in l A. We

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<v Speaker 1>know you're on the reality show. Just up, But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>go on Carl, Carl. I was like, I'm gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>an Instagram account. My sisters going to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>my dog while I'm gone. To my sister, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>every three days, I need you to post a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of Carl so I know he's okay. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>would tell a producer, Hey, go check my dog's Instagram profile,

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<v Speaker 1>just so I know he's okay. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>had it, and then it turned into a different thing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want him to know on you to know

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<v Speaker 1>that his ears are the right size. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend has a corgy chow and you even imagine

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm telling you right now, he's like a holiday

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<v Speaker 1>ham with quarter inch legs. And every time he walks by,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Barren. Every time he walks by me,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Bear, those are the right length, flag, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the right legs. Because you've got to tell

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<v Speaker 1>him because they're not nothing right, Yeah, no, they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta pump some mare in those tires, you know. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a perfect body, dude, those are the right As

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<v Speaker 1>he walks by, those are the right length flegs. Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I always try and let him know. So. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jackie. Hey Jackie, I'm Well's nice to meet. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to do you want to do this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait a minute, that was gold. Don't worry, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to use it. I'm ready to do this thing. Is

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth pad of pizza? What's going on right here? No?

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<v Speaker 1>It's Seinfeld? Oh my god, even better. My eyes are

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<v Speaker 1>read so good. Hold on, let me move this life party.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go, okay, quick break. When we come back, we

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<v Speaker 1>are actually gonna start this show, I think. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Back on the Wells Cast. Very excited to have one

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<v Speaker 1>of the stars from Glow on the show. She also

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<v Speaker 1>has a new cooking show, which means that she's basically

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<v Speaker 1>got the coolest job ever. Welcome on the Wells Cast,

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<v Speaker 1>Jackie Tone, how are you hi? Everybody mostly high Wells.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good man. I do have the coolest job ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I dreamed of it for ever, and I waited

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<v Speaker 1>a good long time. I saw that you went on

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<v Speaker 1>an Armchair Expert recently, so I just want to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for slumming it down here with the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the shittier podcast, not even first of all, such you're

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<v Speaker 1>maybe and such different audiences, and I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so uh. I love doing this and I do

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<v Speaker 1>like all my friends who are comics and have their fun,

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<v Speaker 1>super tiny, weird podcast. But we've been friends forever, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I like, I like chatting with everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just want everybody to watch Best Leftovers Ever because

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<v Speaker 1>that ship is fun. I don't know if anyone told you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I went on Worst Cooks in America Celebrity Edition,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think the celebrity edition part was I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know a loose definition. But Jackie, I need you to

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<v Speaker 1>know going into this interview, your boy won that ship. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know if you need people. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Yeah, there's Glen Routing art show. Here's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that mean you're the worst cook or the like

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<v Speaker 1>you won as the actual worst or you were the

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<v Speaker 1>best person there of the people who were just terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So everyone was bad to begin with and I made

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest strides and got amazing. Because it's confusing when

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<v Speaker 1>it's called worst cook, then you're like, all right, well

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<v Speaker 1>the person that just puts dogshit on a plane and

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<v Speaker 1>the winner, because that's definitely the worst. In the first episode,

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<v Speaker 1>I may try to make pasta and it was so

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<v Speaker 1>terrible that it stuck to the plate and the host

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<v Speaker 1>of the show took it and put it upside down

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<v Speaker 1>over her head and it didn't fall on her head.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the enda had a cooker three course meal

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<v Speaker 1>in a restaurant, and I would beat Johnny Bananas from

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<v Speaker 1>the challenge. Anyways, listen, I just want you to know that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I know what you think. The term

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity was loose on you. I think, whoever, Johnny Bananas

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<v Speaker 1>is probably even happier to be there than you were.

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<v Speaker 1>So I say that all the time when people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm referenced as a celebrity ever, I'm like, I'm hilarious,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like the jokes on the person who

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<v Speaker 1>said it's every time. Yeah, I feel that. Tell me

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<v Speaker 1>about best leftovers ever? Because I feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect time for a show like this, Not that

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<v Speaker 1>anything is perfect for COVID pandemic times, but this one,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because we're all sucking stuck. I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a show that kind of teaches you how to like

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<v Speaker 1>make the best of what you got in the house

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't have. I mean I literally don't even need

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<v Speaker 1>to expound because you've just you've just explained it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is exactly what it is. And even even

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I hold this show and I judge it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've taken so many tips that I learned on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, Like I'll just open my fridge and out

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<v Speaker 1>have an idea what to make, and I'll look at

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<v Speaker 1>peanut butter and be like, oh, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I learned how to make a fun Asian

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<v Speaker 1>peanut sauce with that I look at peanut butter before.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I all I eat like a toddler, So

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<v Speaker 1>all I ever really ate in the past was like

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<v Speaker 1>a hot If I'm hungry for dinner and I need something,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I will have gold visions of vanilla ice cream,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not above it, but it really has elevated,

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<v Speaker 1>so um, I'll play the show. It's just like it sounds.

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<v Speaker 1>We have different levels of chefs come on three per

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<v Speaker 1>episode and compete for the ten thousand dollar cash roll.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you guys are just listening, but I'm winking

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<v Speaker 1>because it is cash and a casserole dish. In round one,

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<v Speaker 1>they have fridges behind them where we say likely guys, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you had date like date night last night. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have in the fridge some filet mignon and chocolate covered

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<v Speaker 1>strawberries and a salad, right, and you need to take

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<v Speaker 1>those ingredients and turn them into a flavor bomb brunch

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<v Speaker 1>and just completely unrecognizable. And then of course the person

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<v Speaker 1>that uses the most leftovers they don't necessarily win, but

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<v Speaker 1>we that counts. And then for round two, my fridge

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<v Speaker 1>comes out, and it's sort of Pee Wee's Playhouse vibes,

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<v Speaker 1>where like, my fridge is a character on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes she shout and we have to like chant

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<v Speaker 1>to get her, get her hotzpun fridge fridge. Finally, her

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<v Speaker 1>little shy ask comes out. I opened the fridge and

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<v Speaker 1>in there are take out leftovers that are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote mine. So they'll be like three different Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>food dishes, three different Italian dishes. Each episode a different

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<v Speaker 1>ethnicity of food. And in round two, the cooks need

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<v Speaker 1>to take whatever Chinese food they were randomly given and

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<v Speaker 1>turn it into high end cuisine of a totally different ethnicity.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can't take Chinese and keep it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>And we had people turning Italian food into curry and

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<v Speaker 1>dinner food into Italian. I mean, it was it's nuts

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<v Speaker 1>what these people did. So are they all well known chefs?

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a season one of the show, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're pretty confident that, you know, next season what

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<v Speaker 1>the people do is going to be even crazier and

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<v Speaker 1>the chefs will be even crazier. But we got I

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<v Speaker 1>guess our cast our cooks. They were incredible. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think any of them are like world renowned, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Flame vibes. It's not the Iron Chef leftovers, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is all these people can cook like that. The

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<v Speaker 1>bit isn't that like they're making gross food. The bit

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<v Speaker 1>is that they are killing it. Bear, let's that dude

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<v Speaker 1>curious with this teeny tenny legs. Bear, that's exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>long your legs should be. You're killing the game well

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<v Speaker 1>as even supports you. So what is your role on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, because I assume not to assume, but I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you're not Julia Child's thank you for seeing my

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<v Speaker 1>true heart so early in this interview, I burned toast.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not trying to sit here and pretend when

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<v Speaker 1>these guys are making this incredible food that I know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about, but my mouth works, so I

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<v Speaker 1>can still tell you what it tastes like. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of like the Lehman's I come in with that

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<v Speaker 1>Layman angles. We've got Rosemary Shrager, who is rightnown world

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<v Speaker 1>renowned chef cookbook author. Um. I mean this guy, David

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<v Speaker 1>so is an incredible strontour culinary influencer. He cooks as well,

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<v Speaker 1>but he doesn't fancy himself like a chef. And so

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys are really giving the critiques. As far

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, it could be brighter. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>using a lot of food words where I'm just shoving

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<v Speaker 1>my face and being like this is very good. Or

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<v Speaker 1>why is this the consistency of boogers, you know things,

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<v Speaker 1>high end, high end, high end critiques. You're like every man,

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<v Speaker 1>You're the blue color. You're the Bruce Springsteen of this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't please with the high compliment. I'm the I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>boss whatever. That's incredible. Yeah, even if you said I

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<v Speaker 1>was little Stevie, I would have been flattered. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>also I mean, if I'm Bruce, I'm Bruce, Like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have no more questions. Wait, were you on sopranos. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I played Little Stevie's daughter. I know, dude, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been acting since I was nine. Like, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of little pieces to put together in this journey. I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to get to all of that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>want to put a bow on this show. It's on Netflix,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and everyone, obviously you need to go

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<v Speaker 1>watch you purely because you need ideas for what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell to do on day seven thousand nine three of

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<v Speaker 1>us quarantine with all the food in the refrigerator. But

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<v Speaker 1>my question is this, because like you've done everything, you're

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<v Speaker 1>like so multi talented and multi facetage. Did you come

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<v Speaker 1>up with this idea? Was it was like this idea

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<v Speaker 1>for this show? Like your brain shall no. Actually, so,

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<v Speaker 1>the brief version of this crazy story is that the

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<v Speaker 1>Magical Elves, who are sort of the best in class

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<v Speaker 1>for reality producers, I mean, uh, for competition shows. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>no disrespect to the batch obviously from the links. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys made Top Chef and Project Runway and nailed

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<v Speaker 1>it and they know what they're doing. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>just took a meeting with them. They were looking they

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<v Speaker 1>had this idea. It was already at Netflix, and they

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<v Speaker 1>had and they wanted I believe female, but that part

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure about. I think they wanted like a

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<v Speaker 1>female comic who was Netflix talent so they could keep

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<v Speaker 1>it in the family and sort of have the people

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the platform and hop from show to show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I took a meeting with them, and the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing was like, it's kind of funny. Uh, are you

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<v Speaker 1>an actor as well? No, it's just a radio host

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<v Speaker 1>before all of this. Well, all right, well I'm your manager, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever inside we'll talk about. Like, but there's this thing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I've been doing this so long that

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<v Speaker 1>I get when when something really goes well in a meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>really goes well, I tamp it immediately. Like when I leave,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, cool, it's over. That never happened. I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>going to think about it again, because in the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>part of my career, I can't tell you how many

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<v Speaker 1>times I went on an audition in the room, I

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<v Speaker 1>just have chills thinking about this. In the room, they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, hey, Jackie, don't don't don't cut your hair,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, giving you these little sort of and

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<v Speaker 1>then as I was leaving, maybe like Jackie and I

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<v Speaker 1>turned around. They'd be like, come back in. The producers

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<v Speaker 1>want to see one more thing, and you'd come back

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<v Speaker 1>in and you're like the other girls in the waiting

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<v Speaker 1>room were like, oh ship that girls of call back,

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<v Speaker 1>like you just know it's yours and then it's not

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just and that happened ninety nine times out

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<v Speaker 1>of And so I'm in this meeting and like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling this ridiculous story about how the paparazzi caught me

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<v Speaker 1>leaving Craigs with six bags of leftovers, looking like a

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<v Speaker 1>freaking My bangs were greasy. I looked like an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>shit storm when people could still go to restaurants, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was the first time I ever got paparazzi. So

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<v Speaker 1>part of it was like, oh my god, I made it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other part was like I look like a

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<v Speaker 1>garbage fire, and am I why do I have so

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<v Speaker 1>many bags? And it was so embarrassing. So I pull

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<v Speaker 1>up the Getty images in the meeting of me taking

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<v Speaker 1>out all these leftovers. One of the Netflix executives on

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<v Speaker 1>her chair like you do leftovers from Craigs? What is

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with your like raw screaming. The vibe is amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like this is everything, this is my dream,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my brain instantly goes to like, calm down,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't yours yet. Even if it is yours, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not yours. Everything could go up. It's like it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't know, not to get to a psychological

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<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of sad because you can't let yourself

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<v Speaker 1>exist in that joy place for too long because it's

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<v Speaker 1>so much further to fall when you find out it

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<v Speaker 1>actually isn't yours. So you have to bring yourself back

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<v Speaker 1>down to this middle ground of like, okay, breathe it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I did my best. That was a fun experience. Anything

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<v Speaker 1>can happen. And then I left and as I was leaving,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of calming myself down, the head of the Magical

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<v Speaker 1>Elves comes out of the Netflix building and he's like, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make it with you. Netflix wants to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to do it. It's gonna be you. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was like why I started to cry like a

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<v Speaker 1>little plus dude, it was a long time coming. I waited.

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<v Speaker 1>I waited for an executive to follow me out of

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<v Speaker 1>a building and tell me it was me for the

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<v Speaker 1>better party of five years. So it's pretty cool. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what, because I've been to Craig's.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know what you brought? Was the chicken?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what did you bring home from? Yeah? Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>what happened was I went for like a Glow season

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<v Speaker 1>two or three celebratory dinner with my agent and the gods.

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<v Speaker 1>Is getting to be such a Hollywood douchey story. So suddody.

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<v Speaker 1>It was with my agent at this very fancy restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's funny is I'm such a low red bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what Craig's was not a clue. With

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<v Speaker 1>due respect to Craigs, which is now truly one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite restaurants, It's not a fancy name, sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>a Jewish guy from New York, like Craig Rosenthal. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, going to Craig's, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that even is? Like, okay, So we go to Craig's.

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<v Speaker 1>I meet him there, and on my way in, I

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<v Speaker 1>noticed all the paparads here there. They obviously don't care

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<v Speaker 1>about my homeless looking twelve year old boy ass. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going in like, okay, I don't what is this place.

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<v Speaker 1>J Lo and a Rod are at one table. All

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<v Speaker 1>of Maroon five is at another table, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>what where am I brings over the food? Um? My

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<v Speaker 1>agent gets some fish I got I think the chicken

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<v Speaker 1>palm where it's ridiculously good, And I think the waiter

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<v Speaker 1>just has to at that point, at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the meal come over and say, like, you guys when

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<v Speaker 1>I know, take anything home. My agent says no so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>like my hair blows back like he's like, no, we're good,

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<v Speaker 1>We're good. And I was like, oh, you're not taking

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<v Speaker 1>You're not taking your Oh I'll take both. I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>both of these, like this is no joke. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>got dessert. I also took that, and then I was

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<v Speaker 1>leaving with three I literally think the waiter had to

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<v Speaker 1>like go in the back and be like do we

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<v Speaker 1>have to go boxes? Like is that something we offer here?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I leave with three craigs bags, sweaty bangs,

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<v Speaker 1>and a camo shirt and the pop paras like Jackie Jackie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, they're obviously talking about a different Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>because duh. And I turned around and they are flashing, flashing,

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<v Speaker 1>flashing like crazy, and I'm holding all the leftovers bags.

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<v Speaker 1>So my mouth in the pictures is like, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>what like I'm making crazy mouth shapes. I've been learned

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<v Speaker 1>to l after that that once they got you, they

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<v Speaker 1>got you, so you just stand there and smile. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was what we took from Craigs. I believe, the

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<v Speaker 1>telapia and the chicken farm and some cheesecake, three different bags. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it got you, this reality show. So

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<v Speaker 1>it worked out. Yes, that's great. And so to answer

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<v Speaker 1>your question from before, I'm the host and I'm a judge,

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<v Speaker 1>one of three judges got it. What's the one thing

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<v Speaker 1>someone has taken from leftovers and turned into something else

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that like I stuck with you that you're just like, Holy,

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<v Speaker 1>that was amazing. I can't believe this happened. There was

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<v Speaker 1>one woman who had some sort of Italian her name

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<v Speaker 1>was John. I don't know why I remember this. She

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<v Speaker 1>had some sort of Italian veal dish like it was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a veil parmegian. It was sauced, it was covered,

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<v Speaker 1>it had a pasta on the side, and she turned

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<v Speaker 1>it into two types of curry. So she took the

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<v Speaker 1>veal she covered in in all sorts of Indian spices,

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<v Speaker 1>she added chickpeas. She turned it into a curry, so

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<v Speaker 1>she made like a plated sort of soupy curry like

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<v Speaker 1>where you used to and then also put some of

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<v Speaker 1>it inside a fried pecora. And she also made the

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<v Speaker 1>acora shell, the pastry that a p acora comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>She made that and then took this veal let's call it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, deal parmesan, and turned it into two different

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<v Speaker 1>Indian curries and it was there was no universe that

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<v Speaker 1>this was ever Italian food. And it was delicious before

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<v Speaker 1>she made the little rice. I mean, it was nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>What these people do on this show is is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Best Leftovers ever is available right now on Netflix. Also

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<v Speaker 1>on Netflix a show called Glow, which of course you

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<v Speaker 1>play Melrose on. Last I saw from Glow was they

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<v Speaker 1>were shutting down production because of COVID, which is happening

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere in Hollywood. Is the thought to like eventually come

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<v Speaker 1>back when the world comes back to normal. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we still have our fingers crossed, but they're like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of on the crossing, but just from being tired, not

0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.679
<v Speaker 1>because we don't want it. Does that make sense? Like

0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:47.760
<v Speaker 1>we're still I'm like, oh, that's I'm sort of getting

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<v Speaker 1>a cramp in both of my pointers from from crossing

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<v Speaker 1>my fingers so hard for so long. It doesn't look

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<v Speaker 1>like they're going to make the fourth season. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the show. The renewal of the show has been reversed,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's ostensibly been canceled, but we're still hoping for

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. I don't I don't know. Um, well, basically

0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.679
<v Speaker 1>what happened was just like you said, but we we

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<v Speaker 1>got put on hold. We made two and a half episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like at the end of season three they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, cool, you'll come back, and then like COVID

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<v Speaker 1>happened and we didn't. We were well into making season four.

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<v Speaker 1>It's completely written. The actors are ready to go. All

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<v Speaker 1>the costumes were bought and paid for, all the sets

0:22:26.119 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>were built. I mean, we were already living in the

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<v Speaker 1>world and doing the show. Like at a certain point

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<v Speaker 1>you I don't wonder, like, wouldn't it just be easier

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<v Speaker 1>at this point to just point the cameras at us

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<v Speaker 1>and finish. But with COVID, at this point you need

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a COVID officer on set, you need medics, you need

0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:45.240
<v Speaker 1>to test the cast every day. I guess the rules

0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:47.479
<v Speaker 1>now are that the days need to be shorter, and

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>we used to work thirteen fourteen hours a day, so

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 1>if we're spreading those days out, our episodes are going

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to take two and a half three weeks instead of

0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:58.919
<v Speaker 1>six days. So I think it just became not really

0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:03.000
<v Speaker 1>feasible time wise and financially and everything, and they just

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>called it. I hope that doesn't last because I love

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>that show, Thank you. I love that for like a

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:09.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of different reasons. I mean, one for what it

0:23:10.000 --> 0:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>stands for, just in like this weird Hollywood world that

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.439
<v Speaker 1>we work in, just a show that's just all women

0:23:16.640 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>kicking ass but also being funny and being amazing actresses.

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 1>And then I'm a radio guy, so love Mark Merry.

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Like it just brought in a lot of things for me,

0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>and so I really hope it continues on. If not,

0:23:30.520 --> 0:23:33.400
<v Speaker 1>it's served a purpose I guess for me, which that's

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>all that really matters, guys, as long as I'm happy

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.399
<v Speaker 1>that it was like a really important part of like

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>amazing media to consume. Was Melrose, Like your character on

0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 1>that is so funny, and you're a comic. I know

0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that you weren't, Like this is I want to play

0:23:49.560 --> 0:23:51.359
<v Speaker 1>this person I or I assume I assume you went

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 1>an audition for something, but when you read the character

0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.080
<v Speaker 1>where you like, oh my god, this is a dream role. Okay,

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 1>So I lived through that and I'm gonna listen back

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to it at night and maybe cry. Um well because

0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.840
<v Speaker 1>just hearing about people loving Glow the way I love Glow,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>especially men, that can sort of go like because we

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 1>we never felt like we were a show for women.

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's I mean, especially since it's a bunch

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>of hot women wrestling and leotard's like, yo, bros, watch

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the show. But beyond that, like narratively speaking, and the

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>story telling, the importance socially of the stories we're telling,

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.960
<v Speaker 1>and the representation on the show, and women of different

0:24:32.040 --> 0:24:36.560
<v Speaker 1>ages and colors and body types just being who they

0:24:36.600 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>are and being celebrated for being who they are. And

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've never seen a show before other than

0:24:44.320 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 1>I would say Orange is the New Black, which is

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 1>by Jingi Cohen as well, like that just has that

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 1>many opportunities for women. I mean, I've been doing this forever,

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and most of the shows I ever tried out for

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>for before Glow were there was room for like one

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>girl role that was like maybe kind of funny, but

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 1>all the funny lines went to the dudes. So there

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:06.479
<v Speaker 1>was like one quirky girl on the show and you

0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.800
<v Speaker 1>had to like fight for that part among all the

0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.199
<v Speaker 1>funny girls in the whole city. And now here's this

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:15.399
<v Speaker 1>show just celebrating all these clowns. But to answer your question,

0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 1>we um when I tried out for Glow, I tried

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:22.720
<v Speaker 1>out for Ruth a bunch of times. I tried out

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 1>for I think I read the Sheila sides and Jenny

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.479
<v Speaker 1>the Jenny sides. She just was real cheered literally, and

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Melrose was sort of just like a party girl, like

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>she was sort of like Madonna meets Paris Hilton, like

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 1>sort of just very party. But I just brought my

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>own flavor to it. And they changed her character her

0:25:44.480 --> 0:25:49.920
<v Speaker 1>name to from Melanie Rose to Melanie Rosen because your

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.439
<v Speaker 1>girl brought the Jewey and they were like, well, I

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 1>guess we're not gonna be able to deny how Jewish

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.159
<v Speaker 1>this is checking out and speaking of representation, like I

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>can't tell you how many Jewish women I've heard from

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that are like, dude, I've never seen anything like this

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.919
<v Speaker 1>on television. I've never seen this sort of representation and

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 1>how my character in season three got to talk about

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>inherited trauma through being the kid of Holocaust survivors. I myself,

0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I am the grandchild of Holocaust survivors, and the truth

0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of our lives morphed into the truth of the show.

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't like I read the breakdown and I

0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:33.200
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, body edgy, body mouth Jewish

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 1>girl from New York, like she became that after I

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:39.840
<v Speaker 1>after I got cast, because they were and I think

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:42.920
<v Speaker 1>that happened with a lot of us, because they saw

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 1>who we were and they strengthened the show by infusing

0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>who we were into our characters in a powerful way. Then,

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>because that character has so much depth and texture and

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I love her so much, and I just assume that, like,

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of course they gave the stand up comics slash actor

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>slash musician like this role like that that makes sense

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:08.720
<v Speaker 1>to me, And now finding out that it's really more

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.440
<v Speaker 1>of you than her is really cool and very impressive.

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>Last thing before we get to like kind of my

0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>portion of the show, This was a character I assumed

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>that you couldn't put so much of your spin on

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 1>because originally they were just such a powerhouse, badass woman

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>in comedy, but you got to be Gilda Radner. Sadly enough,

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of my audience might not know

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>what National Lampoons is and might not know like the

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.840
<v Speaker 1>genesis that is Saturday Night Live and like all those

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.359
<v Speaker 1>old Chevy Chase movies and stuff. But like Gilda Radner

0:27:42.480 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>was like one of the great SNL, the first cast member,

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 1>just so iconic, and you get to play her in

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.560
<v Speaker 1>that movie. I just just real quickly like what was

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:54.640
<v Speaker 1>that like? As a comment, getting to be Gilda, Well,

0:27:55.320 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I have loved her forever. There was never she informed

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:03.360
<v Speaker 1>my comedy. She informed what I wanted to do with

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>my life. Gilda Radner and Bette Midler and Joan Rivers.

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>As a kid, these were the women I looked at

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:12.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yeah, that that what they're doing

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>is what I want to do. And I played that

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Gilda Radner VHS tape her best of SNL forever, and

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I just would run around the house doing like, oh yeah,

0:28:21.119 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 1>everybody doing Lisa Ludner and Rosanna Dana and just doing

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>her characters my whole life. And when I was a kid,

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I um I did a spinoff show, Remember that show

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>all that. Of course, so they Nickelodeon. I had a

0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 1>development deal there and they signed me to a deal

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>because I was doing all these characters as a kid

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>when I was because I started doing stand up when

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I was fourteen. So when I was like sixteen, I

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:50.479
<v Speaker 1>did this stand up showcase Nickelodeon saw and I did

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>all these characters. They gave me a deal and I

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.320
<v Speaker 1>had a spinoff show. I've actually never talked about this before.

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>It's so weird this is coming out right now. It

0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.360
<v Speaker 1>was called and now this all that and know this,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>it was gonna be this other's like sketch show but

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>more character driven. After all that, we did a pilot,

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it we aired. Rosie O'Donnell was our celebrity guests and

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>we never made more. Um. But anyway, all that to say,

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>that was my That was all guild I just was

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>looking at her and I was like, I want to

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 1>do that. So when I got the opportunity, I had

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:26.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing going on when I tried out for that Guilder role.

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling when I tell you nothing like I had reps,

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 1>but like you know, barely and this sort of small

0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:36.800
<v Speaker 1>nothing was going on. I could barely get auditions, And

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.200
<v Speaker 1>my understanding is when I tried out for GUILDA, they'd

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 1>seen everybody else in the city. Like I knew two

0:29:41.120 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>months prior. Girl friends of mine knew were at UCB

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.600
<v Speaker 1>OR were like working comics, were like, dude, I try

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:47.920
<v Speaker 1>to for guild A red Or. That feels like it's

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>more of like a youth thing. And I was like, oh,

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I don't know. I didn't get the appointment.

0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>And finally I got the appointment. I went in and

0:29:56.280 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I through. I have chills again. I threw all much

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 1>shit against the wall that it could have been like,

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this girl is like changing, isn't she

0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>carrot top? Like that's okay. We saw four We saw

0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 1>four of Gilda's characters and there's been four costume changes.

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh god, she's taking out a guitar. Like it could

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>have looked if it was a different casting director other

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>than Alison Jones, who is the greatest, it could have looked.

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>It's hard, you know, like it went. It worked in

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>my favorite, needless to say, because I got the part

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and uh, they appreciated the lengths that I went. But

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.120
<v Speaker 1>as an actor, I've tried that hard on auditions in

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:36.760
<v Speaker 1>the past and like the feedback was like, yeah, it

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 1>was a little much. I feel like, you know, you

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>never know when you put yourself out there to that level,

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and we have to take care of ourselves as actors.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I think what you learned from that is like, well, ship,

0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>don't put yourself, don't try that hard next time, like

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 1>be more wrong living sin in office space and go

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 1>in like you don't give a ship and this wouldn't

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>really make a difference to you anyway. I mean, that

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>feels like the vibe of the people who get the jobs,

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and that's never been me. I've always shown up and

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>been like I care so much and then it's like,

0:31:05.400 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, well to calm down because that's not hot,

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Like no one's trying to put that energy. But with Gilda,

0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that's what I did. I went in there and I

0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>tried my goddamn hardest, and David Wayne watched the tape

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, she's Gilda and that was that.

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you try out for SNL? You know? I think

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I tried out once, but I used to test for

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Mad TV like every season. I think I tested for

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Mad T be like four seasons in a row. Yeah,

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking of this one character I had,

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>which was al Pacino as a sock puppet. He used

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 1>to just like sort of like ruin all my dates.

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 1>But he was my own sock puppet on my own hand,

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 1>so like I had complete autonomy over so I had

0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>like autonomy over him. But he would still just like

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>with my ship all the time, and I'd be like, I'll, dude,

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like on a date and he'd be like, you

0:31:51.600 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't go to some you should And it was just

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 1>al Pacino as a sock on my hand. That was

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>one of my hits. Weird I never ended up on

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:03.240
<v Speaker 1>TV me. Another one was this character Stacy something, I

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>forget her last name, but she was like super lupy

0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and she was like a porn star. But the clamydia

0:32:08.640 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 1>got to her head because I once read an article

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>where clamydia can make you crazy. So she just was

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:15.520
<v Speaker 1>like a super bat but she was just like naked

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 1>all the time and trying to a but she wasn't. Well,

0:32:18.880 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it's weird that those didn't make mainstream television. Look who's

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>laughing now? All right? Well that I feel like they

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.239
<v Speaker 1>probably still are. I feel like I could talk to

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 1>you forever about just whatever. But I'm running out of

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>time and I want to do kind of like the

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>part of my show that I think is cool and important,

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 1>So I we'll do it really really fast. But this

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is an origin story podcast. I like to find out

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>how people got to this point in their career and

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>like what steps you took. Okay, we're gonna take a

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 1>quick break, and when we come back, we're going to

0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:52.479
<v Speaker 1>find out where the hell Jackie Tone came from and

0:32:52.480 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>how the hell she got here. Stick around all right,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.000
<v Speaker 1>back in the wells. Guest got Jackie Tone on the show.

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Now get to dive in deep to where you came from.

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:15.080
<v Speaker 1>You started early? Where are you from? I am from Oceanside,

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Long Island. And were you always like a comic? The

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>greatest question ever? And were you always very loud? And

0:33:25.760 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I happen to have always been this way. Yeah. I

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>remember when I was a little kid. Um, you know,

0:33:31.960 --> 0:33:34.680
<v Speaker 1>I would go on auditions and sometimes the feedback would

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:36.280
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh my god, she was the most exciting

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 1>person we've seen in months. And sometimes the feedback and

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I would behave the exact same way, and sometimes the

0:33:40.720 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>feedback was like, yeah, she really kind of sucked all

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the air out of the room, like it just was,

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's just this is who I've always been,

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's always been for some people and not for others,

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and not really until I got older it was Okay,

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a hard fill to swallow, but I am

0:33:56.760 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>who I am. You said you started doing stand up

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>at what age four? Team? Okay, So I mean, how

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>does someone even do like how do you get into

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:08.919
<v Speaker 1>the chuckle hut or the zanies to like do five

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>minutes at fourteen? Well, it's wild Caroline's in the cellar,

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>But I in New York. So what's crazy is um

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:18.839
<v Speaker 1>I started acting sort of like dipping, which is so

0:34:18.880 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>funny to say, dipping my toe. I was literally a child,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>but I was started like begging my mom and to

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>take me on auditions when I was like nine, And

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 1>by the time I was eleven, I had this agent

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:32.440
<v Speaker 1>who was incredible, Aggie Gold at Fresh Faces Agency, who

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>worked out of her backhouse in baldin Long Island, one

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>town over. She and my mom knew each other because

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 1>they were in Lama's together in like the seventies, not

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:43.040
<v Speaker 1>with me with my older brother and so on the

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.080
<v Speaker 1>fifty nine. So then Aggie and my mom knew each other,

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>and I always wanted to act, so my mom brought

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.360
<v Speaker 1>me to Aggie and she was like, well, we got

0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it to give her classes to get rid of her

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>long Island accent, and we gotta put her in this

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>and put her in that. And then by the time

0:34:55.960 --> 0:34:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I was twelve, I got my first job with guest

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.799
<v Speaker 1>starring on and Nanny and then always, like I said,

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 1>always loved Gilda. So when I was like fourteen or fifteen,

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>I was doing it. Was back in the day. So

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in the nineties there were these development deals were the

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>big thing. So if you could do a stick in

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>front of people who in front of decision makers, That's

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>how Ray Romano Roseanne Signed felt. These were just comics.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.760
<v Speaker 1>They were grown ups, of course, but they were comics

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.279
<v Speaker 1>who executives were seeing and giving these development deals to

0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>curating and putting together a show for them, making the pilot.

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes they didn't get picked up, but of course the

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>ones I mentioned mad about you all these he's went,

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I was doing Standard. I got it. My first development deal,

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>I think was that Warner Brothers, and I got Nell Scovell,

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>who was like one of the most impressive and inspiring

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>female writers. She was the only female writer on The

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Simpsons and the only and one of the only female

0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>writers on Letterman. She met me when I was fifteen

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and wrote me a pilot called Prudy and Judy and

0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I a development deal and it never got picked up.

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And then I had another development deal at Nickelodeon that's

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 1>where I had and now this, and then we didn't

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>get picked up. And all of that was mostly because

0:36:11.800 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I was out trying to do characters and trying to

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>do stand up and my age and Aggie would just

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:19.560
<v Speaker 1>cold call people. I mean, she was the kind of

0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 1>person who would just like call whoever the powers that

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 1>be at Nickelodeon and be like, I have someone for

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you and and I promise you you're gonna love her,

0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you don't, you'll never hear from me again,

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.080
<v Speaker 1>and like beg them to see me. I had no credits.

0:36:34.160 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Then they would see me and be like, oh, it's

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of funny, and then it would work. I think

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just the power to of having someone that's that

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>in your camp is wild, someone who has the balls

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to just go outside the box and make those calls.

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I do love the fact that someone was like, we

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.560
<v Speaker 1>need to get her in acting classes to lose this

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 1>long Island accent. And then the first show you do

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>is The Man, Because because I'm gonna ask you, based

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast, how do you feel like those classes?

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Like how do you feel do you think I succeeded

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 1>getting rid of by a little guy lady act? I mean,

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>it's just And then like with Melrose, I mean, I think,

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.000
<v Speaker 1>what's funny? And I um, I think I've I've said

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 1>this out loud before, but like I didn't know I was.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know I was specific, which just has to

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:24.720
<v Speaker 1>be like I've prided I pride myself on my self awareness,

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 1>but I guess that enormous piece of me just managed

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.279
<v Speaker 1>to get right by me. Like I was like, why

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>can't I just do everything? I didn't know that I

0:37:34.120 --> 0:37:38.040
<v Speaker 1>made more sense in a specific place. You did American Idol?

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 1>What was that experience? Like, tried out for American Isoland

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 1>like middle late twenties, and I've been acting seventeen years

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>at that point, and it wasn't going. And so by

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the time I tried out for American Idol, it wasn't

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>a second choice necessarily. It was more like in my

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>very early twenties, I did a movie and Rest in Peace,

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 1>the homely bred Renfro taught me how to play guitar.

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 1>That that actor who was in the client, and um,

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 1>he was the best. So if we did a movie

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>together and I was I would sing, I would like

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.799
<v Speaker 1>it was real gruff and I would like just be

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 1>singing all the blues and he'd be playing the sick Louisiana,

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.000
<v Speaker 1>dirty old guitar like lap Steeld do Bro and just

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>killing it. And we would sing in the trailer and

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:25.279
<v Speaker 1>he was like, you should play guitar. He was like

0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>he literally was like Billy Bob Thornton and slave like

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 1>his energy. He was like, you should play each o

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:32.319
<v Speaker 1>And I was like what I had just sing And

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>he was like no, I'll pick up pick up that

0:38:34.000 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>guitar and like put my hands where they needed to

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.120
<v Speaker 1>be and just like made me learn the guitar. And

0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>from then on, I this passion was ignited in me,

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>which was already there, but now that I played an instrument,

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:50.479
<v Speaker 1>it was fully different. And then a few years later

0:38:51.520 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I just on a whim. I think it was. I

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.799
<v Speaker 1>think it was because the they an they had an

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>age limit on American Isold. It was twenty eight and

0:39:00.320 --> 0:39:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at the time I was twenty eight, and I was like,

0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>this is my last chance. I'm old. It's over. Everything

0:39:06.000 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>is so I was like, all right, I'll try out.

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I missed the l A audition and I happened to

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>be and so I went to New York and I've

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>tried out in Jersey and it just similar to what

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I was telling you about leftovers, Like the whole thing

0:39:18.239 --> 0:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>was wrapped in a bow, like it just kept being.

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>The first day they met me, I was obviously making

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>a scene. They put a green sticker on me, and

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>I found out the green sticker later meant the camera

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 1>should find the people with the green stickers because we're

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>already doing sort of stories with them and all these things,

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and it just it kept working, and Paula Abduel went

0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>on the leno and said I was her favorite, and

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 1>it was all just like, oh my god. And the

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>next day I got eliminated. So it was like all

0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:49.799
<v Speaker 1>these dreams were finally realized seventeen eighteen years after I

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>started in this business. And then sort of not to

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>be too dramatic, but once again it was like all

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 1>gone and with the reality show. I think you obviously

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>understand like and it's gone instantly like that. It's different

0:40:04.160 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>than like getting a show canceled, because you still are

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.319
<v Speaker 1>an actor with reps and have momentum and things going on.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.680
<v Speaker 1>But with reality, like when I got eliminated from American Idol,

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>like they put a little piece of paper under your door,

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed to talk to anybody, see anybody, and

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 1>usually go home and pretend it never happened, and then

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>they own you for a year. You're not allowed to

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:26.359
<v Speaker 1>do live gigs, not even allowed to so much as

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 1>make a YouTube video. They've changed all those rules now

0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.240
<v Speaker 1>because I think they realize it's better for the show

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 1>now with the power of social media, that these kids

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>could be promoting themselves and the show. But when I

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:38.759
<v Speaker 1>was on, you had to delete your Twitter, you had

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.880
<v Speaker 1>to delete my Space, you had to delete everything I

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:44.880
<v Speaker 1>had songs on iTunes. I had to like get an

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 1>attorney to call iTunes to pull everything down. I mean,

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.320
<v Speaker 1>they wanted everyone to start on an even playing field,

0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>even though that was false, and so much so that

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't let me play my guitar. They were like,

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>we're even in the playing field. I was like, but

0:40:57.800 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not even I played guitar and they would they wouldn't. Yeah,

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>so's the show is very different now than it was

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>when I was on it. Well, it all worked out

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:08.360
<v Speaker 1>for the best. And listen, I've had a bunch of

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>friends go on that show and almost win or being

0:41:10.680 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the top couple, and that contract sucks. You just don't

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>want that contract. True, Ultimately, what happened with me that

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 1>not winning and getting to where I got. They told

0:41:18.880 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>me I wasn't allowed to tour, and I was like,

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you got it, and then instantly went on tour and

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>secret tour, like I didn't have to promote it because

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.960
<v Speaker 1>like college, the colleges were promoting it themselves and so

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to. I just went and did it. So, Um,

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>you know I broke the rules in that way that

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.640
<v Speaker 1>they see me now seventy five years later. Um. But yeah,

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think I've always I've always tried to just take

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 1>whatever opportunities and grind him into whatever little things I could. Jackie,

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I listen, I've gone over my time with you, so

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to be respectful of the rest of your day.

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 1>But I literally I thought I could talk to you

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 1>forever You're so funny and so wonderful. Congratulations on Glow

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and Best Leftovers and everything else music comedy. If people

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>want to follow you and find out more about you,

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>where do they need to go? Follow me? Everywhere at

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 1>Jackie Tone Jackie t o h N like John but

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>with a T at Jackie Tone. I think mostly Instagram

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>is where I where I live and where I post

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:23.919
<v Speaker 1>everything and all the news. Ship that's going on. Well,

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 1>when the world gets back to normal, can we go

0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.799
<v Speaker 1>to Craig's together? I would love Oh my god, double

0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:30.919
<v Speaker 1>dated at Craig's. Are you joking me? And we'll bring

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Bear and Coral and Glenn. Oh, I just got way

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 1>too excited about the prospect. Well you're the ship. This

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>was so delightful. Thank you, buddy, Thank you. Have a

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 1>great day. And I'd be safe out there because you know,

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:46.719
<v Speaker 1>world's ending. Okay, Alma, get in oy help me all

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 1>talk to God. She's awesome. That was so much fun.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm such an energy person. I know that sounds so

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>horoscope crystals astrological signs of me, so just Hollywood, I guess,

0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>but I'm not that person. But the more interviews that

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I do, and I've done so many thousands of interviews

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>at this point. Energy is so contagious. We've talked about

0:43:12.680 --> 0:43:15.360
<v Speaker 1>it before, like when we had Star Jennings on and

0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Matt story was so inspiring. It just

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.080
<v Speaker 1>completely turned around my day. Not that I was having

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a bad day, but having a bad year, I guess,

0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>but her energy just completely turned me around. And I

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>hope that happens for you guys out there listening, Like

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>when someone's energy can just completely just uplift you. Successful

0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>people are successful for a reason, and I can't imagine

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.919
<v Speaker 1>anyone not wanting to work with someone like that whose

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>energy comes in just bonkers. She's also someone that I

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.640
<v Speaker 1>want to be friends with, you know. Anyways, I think

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:50.799
<v Speaker 1>that's the takeaway of this episode is your energy is

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 1>so important when doing anything. Anything you do, even something,

0:43:54.920 --> 0:43:57.240
<v Speaker 1>you can still turn the energy around, make it funny.

0:43:57.320 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I loved Jackie Tones interview. That was

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.880
<v Speaker 1>so much fun. Hey, guys, go go rate and review

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>the show if you can. If you like it five stars,

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.680
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0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:11.880
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0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:15.399
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0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.080
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0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 1>go follow that if you could, and yeah, go forth,

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.720
<v Speaker 1>try to be more like Jackie Tongue. All right, later, guys,

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