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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Making America Great Again. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: the room filled with some heroes. Chris Wassling. Time I left,

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Speaker 1: Greg rose a Vall to my right. What is up? Boys?

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Speaker 1: Hey Dan? What is happening up Mark Cessler? Not with us?

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Speaker 1: Feeling a little bit under the weather. I part of

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Speaker 1: me wants to the Old Office episode UM where Michael

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Speaker 1: Scott sent Dwight Shrewd to check in on Oscar, who

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Speaker 1: had called in sick on spring cleaning day. Is there

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Speaker 1: anyone from the desk, perhaps, Greg, we could send to

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Speaker 1: Sessler Manner, just to make sure Mark is actually ill. Well.

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Speaker 1: It is within walking distance, as you know, so it

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a long trip. I know where Mark is though.

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Speaker 1: He's on his computer working hard on his sick day,

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Speaker 1: posting stories from home while trying not to infect us.

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Speaker 1: I try had to give him the day off after

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Speaker 1: I heard he was sick. He said, no, I'll post

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Speaker 1: it from home. So I don't really like sounds like

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Speaker 1: Mark the angle you're taking integrity. That's not what I

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Speaker 1: was doing. I was just saying maybe just by way

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Speaker 1: of checks and balances, Wes. You know where I'm coming from, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just for gets and yeah exactly. It would be fun

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Speaker 1: just to just to literally see just to make sure

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Speaker 1: he's not like drinking in the backyard sitting in one

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Speaker 1: of those kiddie pools and the sun typing laptop. If

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Speaker 1: I know Mark, he could be sick and drinking in

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Speaker 1: the backyard. This is the Tuesday edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, Big Show. A lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: We can't we can't dilly dally too much here because

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Speaker 1: this is this is a very busy show. On Tuesday's

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Speaker 1: we have here's the rundown in case you wanted to

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Speaker 1: know it. We are going to uh recap Monday night football,

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Speaker 1: which was a big Bears charges showdown of two also Randall,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get through that. We had a lot of news,

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Speaker 1: including some massive news coming out of the a f

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Speaker 1: just took an even worse turn with Andrew Luck going

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Speaker 1: what that means in the a f C playoff picture. Um,

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Speaker 1: some other news to get to. We are going to investigate, discuss, debate,

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Speaker 1: embrace the debate, Ray the mid season Power Poll. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have the mid season report. Last week there was

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Speaker 1: just so much good content we figured let's save the

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Speaker 1: Power Poll for this week. It's really the poll that

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Speaker 1: gets people talking around America. Wins and losses are nice,

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Speaker 1: but most band bases, they look to the Power Poll

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Speaker 1: to find out, really, how is their season going? Our

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Speaker 1: opinion matters more that all seems to check out. We

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Speaker 1: will also take out the old fork for the last

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Speaker 1: time this season. We have set a goal of forking,

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Speaker 1: and by forking for new listeners, that means uh, deeming

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Speaker 1: a team or a team to have no shot or

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Speaker 1: just not make the playoffs. Uh. This season, we have

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Speaker 1: forked fourteen teams to date. Some have been regrettable and

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Speaker 1: So that is also coming up. And finally, the Thursday

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Speaker 1: all coming up. Let's start though, Like I said, Sydney

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Speaker 1: behind the guys, how are you doing really well? Thanks Dan? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was just joking about the Disneyland thing. By the way,

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Speaker 1: It's Christmas time at Disneyland right now. So did they

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Speaker 1: mind if we could do some news. I feel it's

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Speaker 1: relate to the people for once. This has nothing to

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Speaker 1: until he's twenty six. He didn't have those last couple

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Speaker 1: of years to pat his stats and maybe get that recognition.

428
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: He was a matchup nightmare on the two greatest offenses

429
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Speaker 1: in NFL history, the two thousand seven Patriots two thousand

430
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Speaker 1: thirteen Broncos, and he led the league in receiving three times.

431
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: In terms of receptions, the Rams could certainly use another

432
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: trusty pair of hands. It's just hard to imagine that

433
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: Welker is that guy right now. But maybe he'll prove

434
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: they can use another receiver, but they don't use the

435
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Speaker 1: receivers they have. Moving on, Jim Tomsula has given Blame

436
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 1: Gabbert another start. This is not a surprise. Gabbett replaced

437
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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick UH this week against the Falcons and got

438
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Speaker 1: the upset win UM over the Falcons. They have a

439
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: bye week coming up and that will lead to UH showdown.

440
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: Blaine gabbered versus the Legion of Doom in Seattle. I

441
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: do not like that UH coming out. Well for old

442
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: Jimmy Tomsula. I have a theory about what happened here

443
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: in San Francisco after jim refused to name Gabbett the

444
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Speaker 1: starter after Sunday's game, or uh initially you know, from

445
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Speaker 1: when he talked to reporters. I think he was just

446
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Speaker 1: based on what he was saying about Kaepernick. I think

447
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,879
Speaker 1: his plan all along with sit Kaepernick for a week,

448
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: get into the bye, and put Kaepernick back in after

449
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: the bye week, and would just give him those couple

450
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: of weeks to clear his head, and that Kaepernick was

451
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: his guy. But since Gabert won the game, he had

452
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Speaker 1: to reconsider talk with everyone realized he would have faced

453
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Speaker 1: some sort of revolt if he went back to Kaepernick,

454
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: and that's why he's sticking with games. I like that

455
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Speaker 1: a lot. I'd buy that because he did tooms literally

456
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: said that that he wanted him to get uh step

457
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: away a little bit. I got everybody think everyone was

458
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Speaker 1: a little shocked that that Gabbert was able to lead

459
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Speaker 1: the office in a competent manner. And you I think

460
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: that locker room it's a tenuous place right now and

461
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,959
Speaker 1: would have been a very tricky, odd move to get

462
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Speaker 1: rid of Gabbett there, so I'm in great, good job,

463
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: gonna be an easier call in a couple of weeks.

464
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Speaker 1: It's one thing to do this against the Falcon's pass

465
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: ust that doesn't exist. It's another to go into Seattle.

466
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the other way. That's maybe a no

467
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Speaker 1: brainer than you keep Gabbert in there, sacrifice him to

468
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: Seattle and then bring back Kap and nobody's gonna complain

469
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: playing Gabbert sacrificial lamb. Suddenly, Tim Sulla very machiavellian, I

470
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: don't see him being that way. But yeah, finally, Uh,

471
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Speaker 1: Mike Petton said Tuesday, the Browns coach that Josh McCown

472
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Speaker 1: will return to the starting lineup uh for the Browns

473
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Speaker 1: if he is healthy enough to do so on Sunday

474
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Speaker 1: against the Steelers. This after Johnny Manzel performed very well

475
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Speaker 1: for a half on Thursday Night Football against the Bengals,

476
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Speaker 1: but uh, a poor second half by the entire team

477
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Speaker 1: probably doomed Manzel's chances of getting back in the lineup.

478
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Speaker 1: I still think this is a big mistake by Mike Petton,

479
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: but what do I know? Your your guys thoughts, it's

480
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 1: a no brainer. John Josh McCown is a much better

481
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Speaker 1: quarterback than Johnny Manziel, and Mike Petton doesn't care about

482
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: your feelings. He's got a job to fight for, right,

483
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: I think they could do it after the bye They're

484
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Speaker 1: gonna play Pittsburgh this week. Of course, if they managed

485
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Speaker 1: to beat Landry Jones, which is you know, certainly possible,

486
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Speaker 1: then they'll probably stick with McCown. But if you'll lose

487
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Speaker 1: the Landry Jones and Pittsburgh and then the bye week

488
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: and then you don't go to Johnny Manziel, what is

489
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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel shown you so far that makes you think that,

490
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: like you even have to see something about him? How

491
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: many career starts was I don't know three? Three? Yeah,

492
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: they haven't shown me anything. They need to make a

493
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: decision ahead of the draft next spring, right, but you

494
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: got to give him at least I'm saying, like eight stars.

495
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know you I don't need to

496
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: give him. That's a big investment of first round pick,

497
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: That's right. This is what happens when you're not on

498
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Speaker 1: the same page. Who knows if that GM is gonna

499
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Speaker 1: be in there next year? Who knows if Mike Petton

500
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Speaker 1: is going to be there next year. Who knows if

501
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Speaker 1: Mike Petton ever wanted Johnny Manzel in the first place.

502
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Speaker 1: So when people aren't on the same page, then then

503
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 1: you don't get those sort of long term thinking decisions.

504
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: That thing is gonna get blown up again. I just

505
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: think Johnny Manzel another year or two away from even

506
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Speaker 1: being ready to play quarterback in the NFL. Yeah, if

507
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: he you get the feeling that if he ever does

508
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Speaker 1: become anything in the NFL, it won't be in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: One other note, since we mentioned him, account Luke McCown

510
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Speaker 1: back surgery, which I have to say the Verizon campaign

511
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Speaker 1: now another twist. I bet if they just had the chance,

512
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: some of those backups would really shine. So let's recap.

513
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Speaker 1: Luke McCown does a commercial the Verizon where he likens

514
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Speaker 1: himself to Verizon's backup generators, saying, if you give me

515
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Speaker 1: the chance, I will thrive just like the generators for Verizon.

516
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Speaker 1: He gets his chance in place of an injured Drew Brees,

517
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Speaker 1: lights out, plays great, the Saints win back on the shelf.

518
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Speaker 1: Things are okay. All of a sudden back injury, yes,

519
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Speaker 1: a back injury now ends his season and he wasn't

520
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Speaker 1: even in So what does that tell you about the

521
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Speaker 1: Verizon backup generators? Greg? They might not even work when

522
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: they're not being used. Exactly. Deeply troubling. See that the

523
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Speaker 1: guy that that came up with that ad campaign on

524
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Speaker 1: top of the World now just driving through the desert

525
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: like planks stare. It's like, oh my god, that's where

526
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: Sessler is today, driving through the desert with I'm just saying,

527
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Speaker 1: just send somebody to check. I'm not saying I doubt him.

528
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Just for entertainment, I would like to see someone sneak

529
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: up on him with you know, an iPhone video on

530
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: what kind of reaction happens. Uh, that's an area you

531
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: brought up with Mark before, though, Like I would be

532
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: fine with that. I'm just the results oriented type of guy.

533
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: He's he's out there pounding out post if he wants

534
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: to get in the kiddie pool in a it's kind

535
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: of a chilly day for l A at least in

536
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: the backyard, so that's not the smartest thing with a cold.

537
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 1: But you know, he can do what he wants. He's

538
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Speaker 1: a grown man. Well, I'm just saying if he wasn't sick,

539
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he isn't sick, saying if he wasn't sick,

540
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: but we saw him sick yesterday, it all checks out.

541
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: We had some evidence. Okay. Um, By the way, Matt

542
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: Flynn was resigned was signed by the Saints. And I

543
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: only make that mention because on Twitter a couple of

544
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: months ago he called me a great journalist for an

545
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: end around article in which I posted some of his

546
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: tweets of alcoholic beverages he was drinking. It's a great signing.

547
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Speaker 1: You and Mark have very opposite views on Matt Flynn. Uh. Yeah,

548
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't care for him at all. He doesn't and

549
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't you know, Mad Flinn seems like a nice

550
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: stuff guy. Mark thinks that mad Flinn stole money from

551
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: multiple organizations and he's not far off. This is one

552
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 1: of my favorite prime time so also because when the synthesize, well,

553
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: it's all said, but then the synth really comes in

554
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: like a soaring eagle. Ready here it comes. Listen sore

555
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: Zach Miller made a one handed grab a twenty five

556
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: yard touchdown reception. What a catch it was on a

557
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: J Cutler pass with three nineteen to play in the game.

558
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: It was the difference in a twenty nineteen win four

559
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears over the San Diego Super Chargers. Uh,

560
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: this is J. J. Cutler who overcame. He had a

561
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: pick six in the first half, loss of fumble, in

562
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: charge of territory in the first half of very much

563
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: like the J. Cutler that Chicago has come to loathe

564
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: and details. And yet in the second half he made

565
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: the place. He threw for three forty five yards, targeting

566
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey all night with great success. And on the

567
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: other side of the field, Phil Rivers UH Chris Westling

568
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: had one last chance to lead them down the field

569
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: to get the field goal. The drive, Uh just came

570
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Speaker 1: to a halt. They never came close, and you could

571
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: perhaps point to some weapon deficiencies. Now for Phil Rivers,

572
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: with the injuries piling up, I don't think I've ever

573
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: seen anything like it. Every week they lose four or

574
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: five key guys and he's left with Javonte Herndon is

575
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: that the guy's name, and dontrelle Imman is his second

576
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: and third receivers and Antonio Gates playing through an mcl strain,

577
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: moving at a basically the same speed as Hansas in

578
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: a corn Hale match. Hey wait, Cornhle, is that even

579
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: have to move like? It was an insult and then

580
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: it became kind It didn't make a lot of sense,

581
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: but it's it landed as like a soft insult. That's okay, Yeah, yeah,

582
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: that's good. Antonio Gates was not himself and you're right.

583
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: The luck of these Chargers it's been reminiscent this whole season.

584
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that Cleveland special that NFL Network

585
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: did Football Life, about how tough of a season it

586
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: was when the Browns ended up moving out of Cleveland.

587
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: Everything that has gone wrong for these Chargers has gone wrong.

588
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: Injury wise, It's been a plague. Every game seems to

589
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: have an opposing fan base dominating the stadium. You have,

590
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, the local politicians, and you have the Charges

591
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: people talking about that. We've you know, trying to relocate

592
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. They're trying to do his best, but the

593
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: whole thing has this air of just total depression and

594
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: they find a way to lose a close game every

595
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: single week. It's tough to watch. Rivers is driving for

596
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: a chance at the game time field goal, and Lamar Houston,

597
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: who played four snaps the previous week gets two sacks

598
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: and three plays pushing Joseph Barksdale back into rivers. Basically, yeah, yeah,

599
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: he bullied him and that was you know, that's just

600
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: how the Charger season has gone every when he was

601
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: a top ten free agent pick up, he got a

602
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: huge contract, one of many guys who blew his a

603
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: c L celebrating a sack. And now he looked pretty

604
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: good in the game. He I think he had four

605
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: or five QB hits overall, and and you mentioned Cutler

606
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: looking like the old guy, I would disagree a little

607
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: bit with that. I think he looked good for most

608
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: of the game. He had the one pick six where

609
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: it was appeared to be maybe a miscommunication with Jeffrey,

610
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: but that that's still on Cutler and his receiver. The fumble.

611
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: The guy, you know, Charles Lenno was what maybe the

612
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: worst left tackle in the league. Ingram beat him clean

613
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: and was there in a second and a half. So

614
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: I don't put that on Cutler at all. I think

615
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: he played outstanding from the minute that they missed the

616
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: kick to make it sixteen tenant would have been it

617
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: was the second miss kick. I believe it was by

618
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Robbie gold. It was a short kick late in the

619
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: third quarter. Color only had two more drives. He had

620
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: to lead them on a ninety five yard drive that

621
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: included a lot of eard and longs, and then he

622
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: had to lead him on an eight yard drive and

623
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Speaker 1: he did it. He was He was just about perfect

624
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: on those drives. It was a gutsy good game. There

625
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: are front offices in the NFL right now and West.

626
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: You might disagree a conversation we had earlier, but not

627
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: my a front. There are front offices in the NFL

628
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: right now where they have a team they have a

629
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: quarterback problem, where they're gonna be watching this tape that

630
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: Cutler's put down in this game is an example, and

631
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, damn. I think he could be

632
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: salvage and be a good quarterback. He still looks like

633
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: he's a player. To me, he's the same guy he's

634
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: always been. I don't know why everybody gets so wound

635
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: up about Jake Cutler. He's not a franchise quarterback. Doesn't

636
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: have to be. That's the one thing that needs to change.

637
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: Everyone's always like, is Jay Cutler a star? No? Why

638
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Speaker 1: can't he be a Ryan Fitzpatrick type, middle of the road,

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Speaker 1: solid starter. That's one way to look at it. The

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Speaker 1: way Greg said, I look at it as Jake Cutler

641
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Speaker 1: didn't do anything until the Chargers lost their two best

642
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Speaker 1: cornerbacks for the night. Then forgive me if I don't

643
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Speaker 1: believe that throwing off your back foot jump balls to

644
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Speaker 1: all Sean Jeffrey is a sustainable way to play quarterback

645
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. How do you say that? But the

646
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 1: big place to where the the third and eight early

647
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: in that first touchdown drive where they go ninety five

648
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Speaker 1: years And that's just a every every week since all

649
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Speaker 1: Sean Jefferys come back, the offense has been Jay Cutler

650
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Speaker 1: throwing off his back foot for fifty fifty balls to

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Speaker 1: all Sean Jefferys. I agree with you that he's not

652
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: much different this year than he ever is. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's just a mid level starting quarterback, which has plenty

654
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Speaker 1: of value in the NFL. He's still better than twelve

655
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Speaker 1: fourteen starters out there. I mean, we've given enough time.

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Speaker 1: If if you're if you're a GM and you trade

657
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: for Jay Cutler, you're gonna be wanting to get rid

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Speaker 1: of him in a year. That's just the way Jake

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Speaker 1: Cutler's but the has always they's been going on for

660
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Speaker 1: ten years now. I think he could be more successful

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Speaker 1: and have a better uh stay with the team if

662
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: we start adjusting expectations. But we that's what we've been saying,

663
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: like every year for the past five years. If you

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Speaker 1: adjust your expectations, Jake Cutler is not the answer. I'm

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Speaker 1: swhere on in fifteen seconds. But you did make a

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00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: great point west in your article that it's got to

667
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Speaker 1: hurt Chargers fans that Melvin Gordon was not the best

668
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Speaker 1: rookie running back in this sea. Jeremy Langford look good.

669
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Speaker 1: How tough tough the draft is, especially running back. It's

670
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Speaker 1: tricky to invest. It had to be a tough game

671
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Speaker 1: for Spice Rack. Spicy Spice Racks gotta be you know,

672
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Speaker 1: mail Pipe right now, he's not my go to guy anymore.

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00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 1: After this one Spicy Spicy Spice Rack on the phone

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Speaker 1: at the end of the season, of the people listening,

675
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 1: you have no idea what we're talking about. Spice Rack,

676
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: a football Svengali who in the desert gives Westling tips,

677
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: told them that Melvin Gordon was going to have two

678
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: thousand yards this year. I don't watch college football and

679
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: the Spice Rack. Brad Spicer one of my friends from

680
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: back home, and maybe that he's gonna say his name,

681
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: maybe we should bleep out his name. He doesn't want

682
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Speaker 1: to be connected to this Melvin Gordon gaff. Well, he's

683
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: been He's been right on so many college football guys

684
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: that I've I've basically given him carte blanche. But this

685
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Speaker 1: is this is a big whip a spice rack. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening, and does he listen to the podcast, He's

687
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Speaker 1: off and on, but I think he's like, all right,

688
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Speaker 1: we'll give you a pass on this one, but you

689
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: gotta nail your prediction next draft season. Let's move on

690
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Speaker 1: and UH the group power Pole discussion, the mid season

691
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Speaker 1: power Poll. Everyone's excited because when the NFL around the

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Speaker 1: NFL team, UH, NFL dot Com around the NFL team,

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Speaker 1: which is comprised, of course, the three of us that

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Speaker 1: you're hearing today, as well as Mark Sessler UH out

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Speaker 1: sick today, also Kevin Patra in Sugartown and Connor or

696
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Speaker 1: in his New Jersey hunted mansion. We all have UH

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Speaker 1: this week made a list of our individual power rankings

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Speaker 1: at the season's midway point. And then we had a

699
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Speaker 1: mathematician somewhere in the newsroom crunched those numbers, and yeah,

700
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Speaker 1: old Togo crunched the numbers and gave us our definitive

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Speaker 1: power rankings with all the averages. So and that means

702
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Speaker 1: what that basically means, without bragging or anything, is that

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Speaker 1: the this is the order of how good teams are

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00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We've we've got enough voices in the

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Speaker 1: room where there's no way it wrong. Right West. Absolutely,

706
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Speaker 1: this is basically handed down on tablets from Mount sign.

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00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: Don't tell Elliot Harrison, who does the power rankings on

708
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Speaker 1: NFL dot com, that the definitive list is in my

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00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 1: hand right now. Well, that's why we only come out

710
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 1: every quarter or so, because you can't. There's no way

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00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: we could write scripture every week. It's too hard. You Greg,

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Speaker 1: you've once again put it into words in a really

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Speaker 1: eloquent way. Here we go. Here's the top ten, uh

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Speaker 1: top ten, ten, top ten teams in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 1: Number one Patriots to Cincinnati Bengals, West, can you believe it?

716
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Speaker 1: Number three Panthers. There's a tie it fourth, which is

717
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Speaker 1: just exciting, between the Cardinals and Broncos, the Packers at six,

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Speaker 1: slipping a little bit from our quarter pole. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: what I meant to Greg. Can you pull up our

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Speaker 1: quarter pole? Okay? Number seven, Seahawks, number eight the New

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Speaker 1: York Football Jets, Number nine, the Vikings, and ten the

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Speaker 1: Steelers West. I'm gonna start with you on this. Uh,

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Speaker 1: anything from our top ten jump out at you as

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Speaker 1: a surprise. No, not one surprise on the top ten. Well,

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00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: the surprise to me. I'm looking at some of your

726
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: individual lists. The three of us actually have different teams

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00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: as the number two team in the league now. As

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: an aggregate, the group ended up going with the Bengals, Dan,

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Speaker 1: that was your number two team. I have the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I think the Panthers are the number two team, and

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Speaker 1: I could have I could have seen the argument for

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati and West. This should not surprise anyone believes the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are the second best team right now in the

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Speaker 1: NFL despite their two losses. Why would it surprisingly when

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Speaker 1: they've outplayed every team they played. Well, they're out playing teams.

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Speaker 1: But they had, yes, the two losses and didn't dominate

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Right. But I firmly and vigorously believe that

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Speaker 1: power polls should be based on the best teams, not

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00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: the best records. I like that. I think that if

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Speaker 1: you're just putting standings down, power polls are useless. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals look clearly one of the top two most talented

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. I'm buying in on the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: I think they're not as talent did as Arizona, but

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Speaker 1: I think they're a better team. I almost said football team,

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00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to national football. You never played

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, so you can't use that.

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00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to because you know, football is a different

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00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: kind of sport, and I think they're greater than the

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Speaker 1: some of their parts. I think the defense is great,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Cardinals have just shown enough to

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Speaker 1: me that they haven't lived up fully to their potential

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Speaker 1: despite that great record that that I think, when it

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Speaker 1: comes down to it, I still think the Panthers are

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Speaker 1: a better team. Right interesting the playoffs started right now.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting you say that because since Bruce arians arrived

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Speaker 1: in Arizona, I feel like they've been the best football

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Speaker 1: team in the league. Four That is why they are

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Speaker 1: the team of around the NFL. The biggest faller in

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00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: our top ten would be the Green Bay Packers. Back

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00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: to back losses that we had them at two at

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Speaker 1: the quarter pole, and now as I said, there are

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Speaker 1: number six. I've got one other takeaway about this top ten.

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Speaker 1: There is such a huge drop off. Whether you want

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Speaker 1: to say it's after the Packers at six or I

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Speaker 1: would say the Seahawks at seven, even though the four

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Speaker 1: and four, I think they deserve all the latitude to

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Speaker 1: show us that they're a championship level team. I think that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're putting the Vikings and the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers don't have a quarterback at the moment, the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: The Jets too have been up and down. The Vikings

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Speaker 1: as a top ten team seems crazy to me, but

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Speaker 1: there's really no other options. I think it's a top

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Speaker 1: it's a top heavy league. I have the Vikings personally

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Speaker 1: lower eleven. I think they're them. I believe they have

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Speaker 1: the toughest schedule in the league the rest of them,

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Speaker 1: and they've had one of the easiest so far, and

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Speaker 1: when you watch them week to week, I'm just not

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Speaker 1: that impressed. They managed to win close games. The defense,

779
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: they they're like the they remind me of the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: When the Chiefs made the playoffs, they win, they lose.

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Speaker 1: The first people in Minnesota just rolling over right now,

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Speaker 1: piste off at Greg. I'd be stunned if the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl doesn't have um, you know, two of these teams

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Speaker 1: on the top seven right exactly. I just it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It feels like a very top heavy cut the Jets

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Speaker 1: out of the Super Bowl. Not that. Yeah, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna go to the top. It's a top heavy league

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Speaker 1: and a huge middle. This year, it's that the the

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Speaker 1: bottom isn't quite as bad as it as it was

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Speaker 1: for top heaviest I remember in the last decade, here

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Speaker 1: is the middle of the league. Number eleven. We have

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Speaker 1: the Raiders, which is, you know, quite an achievement for

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Speaker 1: Oakland's face. At number twelve, the Falcons, thirteen Rams, fourteen Bills,

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Speaker 1: fifteen Eagles, sixteen Colts, seventeen Giants. Right in the middle

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Speaker 1: there in the Dalton zone eighteen Saints, nineteen Chiefs, and

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Speaker 1: twenty the Dallas Cowboys West. I know you're fired up,

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00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: so I'll tee you up on this one again. You

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Speaker 1: don't believe that Cowboys have any right being in this

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Speaker 1: middle tier. We did a bunch of Cowboys fans infiltrate

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Speaker 1: our ranks. How did they get to twenty if they've

801
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: lost six games in a row, you have them, I

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Speaker 1: have him. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna use your own

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00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: words against you. West. I'm not judging this solely on

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Speaker 1: win loss record. I'm still holding I'm I was really

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00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: surprised they didn't find a way to win Sunday, so

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00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of that it really shook my confidence. But I

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Speaker 1: will say that when they get rolling back, I still

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Speaker 1: think they have a run in them in a bad

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Speaker 1: division where they deserve to be in that number twenty,

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00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: like twenty to twenty four range, not thirty two. But

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Speaker 1: then you'll be able to rank them, you know, higher

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Speaker 1: in the the three fourth season Power three quarter Pool,

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Speaker 1: power pool. But right now they're one of the worst

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL. Well, you could are competitive on

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00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: a weekly basing losses in a row makes them one

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Speaker 1: of the worst teams in They looked like the better

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00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 1: team when they played the Giants. I mean they really did.

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Speaker 1: You you would have made that argument, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals said one game in six they look like a

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Speaker 1: better team. They're doomed. They sold their soul in their doom.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs. I had the Chiefs. I had a little

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Speaker 1: higher than seventeen. We we said, how we like them

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Speaker 1: right now? I think the Falcons are way too high.

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Speaker 1: At who is responsible for this? That that really surprised me.

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00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: I think I had him at seventeen. At this point,

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Speaker 1: you look, someone must have had them in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: I mean I had. Their record is fine. They're not

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Speaker 1: a good team, you know, I say, you know, just

829
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Speaker 1: to show that I am not a homer in the

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00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: West again, hardcoach, hardcore journal. I had the Raiders ahead

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Speaker 1: of the Jets. I had them in the top ten too.

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Speaker 1: I had the Raider actually had the Raiders nine, Jets eight,

833
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 1: but I had him in the top ten. They should

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Speaker 1: be the team. They are clearly not in that top

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Speaker 1: tier of teams, but they are just as good as

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Speaker 1: any of those teams that are near the top. Test

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Speaker 1: Raiders eleven and in Falcons twelve. I feel like the

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Speaker 1: Raiders will win by twenty if they played. I agree.

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Speaker 1: And when we're talking nfcas I put all those teams

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Speaker 1: in a row, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys, they just put them

841
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Speaker 1: in an ugly little NFC East grouping and who wants

842
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Speaker 1: the guests Where we had the Raiders at the quarter

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00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: pole probably in the mid twenties. You guys should just

844
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Speaker 1: get a helmet with a star on it and just

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Speaker 1: joined the cow They are marching. They are marching up

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Speaker 1: their power ranks. They're twenty eight at the oh my,

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Speaker 1: twenty at the quarter pole, and now all the way

848
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: up to number eleven. So at this rate, that's nice.

849
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: They'll be in the super Bowl the Cowboys. Just so

850
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, West, this is where the Cowboys have been.

851
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: They started at sixteen, dropped to seventeen, and now I've

852
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: dropped to twenty, so they're going in the right direction

853
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: back also dropping games put him in thirty three because

854
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy is on the team. But that's not what

855
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: this is about. I don't like Gregardy either, but come on,

856
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: it's not just about that. Egos moved up eight spots.

857
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: I think we've kind of circled them as our NFC

858
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: least champion basically as a group, I think they're too low.

859
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: They should be. You think they're better than that, Well,

860
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,280
Speaker 1: they're better than the Falcons. Seems we put it together

861
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: a little bit. They're better than the Falcons right now,

862
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: all right, here is the uh the last portion of

863
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: the power poll sponsored by Sporting Goods. May we just

864
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: make it up sponsor? Is that even allowed? Yeah, we

865
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: had a we had a conference called with legal earlier

866
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: today they say fictional sponsorships not not legal. Speaking of legal,

867
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: just a little heads up. Shadowy league figures stepped in

868
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: to make something else go away. We'll get to that

869
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: in a moment. Here is twenty one through thirty two,

870
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: the Redskins, the Dolphins, the Buccaneers at twenty three, the Titans,

871
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: a twenty four Bears, a Texans, Ravens Chargers and Jaguars

872
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: Chargers both tied at the niners of thirty, the Browns

873
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: of thirty one, and the Lions, the consensus worst team

874
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: in football. I have them at thirty, but it's hard

875
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: to put them anywhere other than uh that thirty. The

876
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: thirty two range quite a fall from the eleven and

877
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: five team that basically almost beat the Cowboys in Dallas

878
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: in January. They're a mess. Who do you think out

879
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: of this bottom ten? I'll ask this to both you guys,

880
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: not really make a run to the playoffs because the

881
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: NFC South isn't fair that you know, you might not

882
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: have to be very good. But who do you think

883
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: out of this bottom ten could make a run where

884
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: they go six and two down the stretch and they're

885
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: actually a good team. I don't know about run, but

886
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: it's criminal that the Redskins are ranked below the Cowboys

887
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: on our list. No, it's not sure it is. Why

888
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: what are the Redskins shown you in the last month

889
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: just as injured as the Cowboys and they've got another win.

890
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: So you're going back to where defense is not playing

891
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: well lately at all? Cowboys doing well? They were defenses okay,

892
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: they're running the ball well. Their offensive line is oh

893
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: it took it took that to get you to credit

894
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: Theren mcfan. They're running the ball well and they're protecting well.

895
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: To answer your question, I can't find a team here

896
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna make a run. I feel like the Texans

897
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: still could. The Lawyer is not playing as badly as

898
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: everybody thinks. I feel like the My answer would be

899
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens just because they haven't been blown out once

900
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: this entire season. They're not a good team, but they

901
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: could start getting some breaks. I think they're good enough

902
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: and they have a quarterback where it wouldn't surprise me

903
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: the problem. Their problem is I think they just lost

904
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: too many games, but they're trying to convince themselves. I

905
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this yet, but there's some

906
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: talk in Baltimore this week. It's like, Wow, look at

907
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: there're only two back in the lost column in the

908
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: wild card. It's not the craziest thing to imagine the

909
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: Ravens in the mix in weeks the biggest gainer in

910
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: the bottom of the league. Ready, The Buccaneers started our

911
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: power poll thirty one. Uh, they dropped to dead last

912
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: thirty two at the quarter pole all the way up

913
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: to at that is progress. If you're Jamis Winston led

914
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: team and you could get to the middle of the

915
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: power poll by the end of the season, you're excited.

916
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: In Tampa. I prefer the other rookie quarterbacks team. I

917
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: think the Titans are friskier than the books. The Bucks

918
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: right now are gonna save love Smith's job at this rate.

919
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: If if there was any doubt about it, I think

920
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: they only need to wait about two more games and

921
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith will definitely be back. Bad move from a

922
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 1: strategic point of view, so that is the power poll. Uh,

923
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: we should just greg both of us should conspire a

924
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: little collusion and put the Cowboys at one on our

925
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,280
Speaker 1: three quarter pole powerful just to get West's head to explode.

926
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: I gotta be good, like good television. It's look, you're

927
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: embarrassing yourself and your entire would leave a big hole

928
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: on this schedule, just in terms of like, did you

929
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: just go Sammy Watkins on us? You're embarrassing your team

930
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: and your your cells by not throwing me the ball.

931
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: That sounds appropriate to me? Well, they are our poles

932
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: are theoretically confidential. West, you wouldn't even know where those

933
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: votes came from. I haven't seen Dan told me that

934
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: he thinks the Cowboys are like super Bowl caliber. I

935
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: did the watch of the Cowboys play spoiler at the

936
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: very least of this season. The only thing to gets

937
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: spoiled is their entire season by selling their soul to

938
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: the devil. As I told you was before we came on,

939
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: bad people and bad things. Good things happened to them

940
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: all the time. It's just they doesn't, but they end

941
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: up unhappy. I'm looking that from happiness and living a

942
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: satisfying life. And you pointed to Donald Trump, who may

943
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: well be financially successful, but it's not successful as a

944
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: human being. Mm okay, I mean I don't. I won't

945
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: certainly I won't argue on that at night when he

946
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: goes to sleep. He's got to deal with who Donald

947
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Trump is, and eventually that catches up to a human eventually.

948
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: Right before the eighties, I don't think people, or even

949
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: maybe not in this, you know, people weren't just measuring

950
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: happiness by how much money you make. Dan hands this.

951
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: You know, just because you make money doesn't mean in

952
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: the you know, cowboys for instance, they're making you're not

953
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: getting success. When I sit you down Greg in the office,

954
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: and I with my high powered agent Scott Boris Junior.

955
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: Next year, I won't be able to get Scott Boars,

956
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: but I will get his son who's fourteen yeah he's eight, Yeah,

957
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: and he'll decide how important money is the happiness. Yeah.

958
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 1: That was an ultimatum right there? Or was it? I

959
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: tuned out halfway? So did I. So let's uh now, Yes,

960
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: it is time to move on. Good good power pull segment.

961
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Right there, guys, really a lot of good uh points

962
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: made by everyone involved, And now let's move on to

963
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: the four discussion, and what I what I was hinting

964
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: at during the power Pull segment was we have been

965
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: using um shame when we were doing the rundown of

966
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: the fallen teams, the teams that are have been deemed

967
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: by us to be a lost cause this season. But

968
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: a shadowy League figure alerted me that we can no

969
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: longer use that for copyright reasons. So instead I will

970
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: use a different song or a different drop, one that

971
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: does convey a lost cause. I mean, this is one

972
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: of the great sad songs of all time. This is

973
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: one of the top fifty breakup songs of all time

974
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: from one of the best breakup albums of all time.

975
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: It is. It's a great sad song. It's called Lost

976
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Cause by back and uh, these teams are lost causes.

977
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: Here we go, the Cleveland Browns, the Chicago Bears, the

978
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, New Orleans Saints, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, forty Niners,

979
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: the Texans, the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Ravens, the Chiefs,

980
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Buffalo Bills, the San Diego Chargers.

981
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: Baby your Lost Causes. I like the beck song. I'm

982
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: doing fine better, the one that's what there's a blue

983
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: bird outside my window? You know that one? Yeah? You

984
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: do not know that one? Is that on that same album?

985
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: It is entire ranked on My Breakup Songs lists. Really

986
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: full of Him? Yes, that's what it's up there with

987
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: Blood on the Tracks and and Late for the Sky

988
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: by Jackson Brown Beck and Bob Dylan. In the same sentence. Oh,

989
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely one of the best breakup albums.

990
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people do think that. Rumors

991
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: by Fleetwood Mac is always going to be up there.

992
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: But Beck's Beck's album was great. I guess Adele's album,

993
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: I mean becau Bes, who's who from that early, you know, nineties,

994
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: mid nineties is still going strong, putting out He just

995
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it was necessarily justified. But

996
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: he actually in the most recent Grammy Awards one Album

997
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: of the Year, which was a good album, the when

998
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: he just what's a Lot? Is more set to one.

999
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: Now if you had told me that raising her kids,

1000
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: West and what's wrong with that? Greg, get on that corner.

1001
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: You're big on a woman's rights in her body. Stop

1002
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: trying to police him. That's what you do. Yeah, well,

1003
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: that's what West is doing. I'm just saying, like everybody

1004
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: would assumed when she had that blockbuster album that she

1005
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: would have been the artist who was carrying on it.

1006
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: You would have thought Loser, Maybe that's more like the

1007
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: one hit wonder, Right, Loser was definitely with a much

1008
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: better album Radiohead. Right, but Radiohead, like I would have

1009
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: quack creep to Loser like it does don't even fit

1010
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: the rest of their catalog. All right, let's get to

1011
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: the four teams. Here are the nominees. Now the goal

1012
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 1: here is the FOK sixteen teams. This is our last

1013
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: four session. Again to clarify, when we fourk a team,

1014
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: we decide they cannot and will not make the playoffs.

1015
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: Uh so we have forked the fourteen teams that I

1016
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: read off, and now here are the nominees as we

1017
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: try to get the six team. We want to fork

1018
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: half the league, basically give us wiggle room with four

1019
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: different teams in addition to the twelve playoff teams that

1020
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: we believe will be in the dance. Uh, here we go.

1021
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: Let's start. We'll go one by one here We'll start

1022
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,240
Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans, and now we have three nominees.

1023
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: We want a fork too, and if we don't, we're

1024
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: huge failures. We'll start with the Titans, were two and six.

1025
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: Come up with another nominee, you could right, ins are welcome.

1026
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: Of course, this all this is what was nominees I

1027
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: came out of our Danish um I have here. It

1028
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 1: is the Tennessee Titans, the first one, two and six

1029
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 1: buried uh in the wild card race, but of course

1030
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 1: in the a f C South it is a whole

1031
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,959
Speaker 1: new ballgame. Now with Andrew Luck missing time for the

1032
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: last month, I would have been thrilled about getting rid

1033
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: of the Titans, but now Greg I feel uncomfortable eliminating him.

1034
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: With Andrew Luck out for two to six weeks, I

1035
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: don't feel that uncomfortable because Andrew Lux not out for

1036
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: the season and the Colts are up to wins on

1037
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 1: the Titans. I wish with the You know, if I

1038
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: was going to pick one of these teams, I would

1039
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: still go with the Jaguars as uh much of the

1040
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: as they had blown it. So I don't think we

1041
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: would be found wrong if we do fork the Titans.

1042
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: They are two and six. You gotta win some games.

1043
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: I know they're in the mix, but you gotta start

1044
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: winning more games than Yeah, that was their first wins

1045
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: to start the opening Well, Zach Mettenberger wasn't gonna lead

1046
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: him to wins. Well, but Marcus Mario would was not

1047
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 1: playing well before his injury, and he had won mini games,

1048
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: so I would not be opposed to fork. Well, let

1049
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: me just say before before we bring anything to a vote,

1050
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: it's the three nominees should be known so you know

1051
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: you don't want to fork someone when there was two

1052
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 1: other better options. The Dallas Cowboys at two and six

1053
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: have been nominated after their sixth straight loss, they must

1054
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: be in discussion. And another NFC East team, the Washington

1055
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: Redskins at three and five. Um, so yes, let's now

1056
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: go back to the Titans West. Your thoughts on this,

1057
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: I would keep the Titans and fork the other two. Well,

1058
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: anything that gets West to jump off. Let's save the

1059
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: Redskins corner is something I gotta. I have strategy on this.

1060
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: As long as the Cowboys are fork, the Redskins can

1061
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: go to. This is This is the back room dealing

1062
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: that you guys don't often. It's more that is what

1063
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: happens inside the conference room. I made a huge mistake

1064
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: during the last show when I did not stand up

1065
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: for the Bills, who I believed before the season where

1066
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: a playoff team and who are a talented Well, let's

1067
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: let's hear what how Greg's thought process? This is two

1068
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: weeks ago, made one of the biggest mistakes of his

1069
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: professional career and not fighting for the Bills and losing

1070
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 1: a lot of leverage politically in the processes how it

1071
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: went down. We were supposed to be getting bold. We

1072
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: know we're going to get a lot of tweets from

1073
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: the Bill's fan base if we forked them in week seven,

1074
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: especially if they make a run on us. That actually

1075
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: seems kind of fun. Alright, whoa that was after five

1076
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: minutes of drinks, a couple of minutes of defending them

1077
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: and saying how they were only one win away from

1078
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: being right back in the mix. I mean, the only

1079
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: thing that's changed is they beat They wanted the game

1080
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: they were favored in since that happened, but they're a

1081
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: talented team. The whole fork needs to be considered to

1082
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: be forked because we're living in a world where yeah,

1083
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: but I went along with your little plan. Oh, let's

1084
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: get bold, let's fork everyone. By week four, I'm sure

1085
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: we'll know everything at this point we got anything wrong. Yet,

1086
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: at this point in this season, we we are saying

1087
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: that the Raiders are not in the playoff mix, the

1088
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: Bills are not in the playoff mix, the Saints, and

1089
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: yet we're debating lame teams like the Cowboys and the

1090
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: Titans and they're still alive the tub. We need to

1091
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: tweak the language. We've said historically have no chance of

1092
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. We if we tweak it to just

1093
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: saying they're not going to make the playoffs, were covered.

1094
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 1: Even if we say that, we're saying that about two

1095
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: four and four a f C teams right now, the

1096
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: Raiders and the Bills, and I don't care what happens

1097
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the year really with them, it's silly

1098
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: to say that they're not potential playoffs. Do you undermine

1099
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: segments in the Gentle Nic podcast to or I do

1100
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: it all the time. That's what I do the underminer.

1101
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: Can't we just understand that we're flawed and we're gonna

1102
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: get things wrong. We're not unimpeachable. Maybe we'll tweak the

1103
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: formula for next year. I think one thing Dan and

1104
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 1: I talked about during the conference was, you know, we

1105
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: don't have to go crazy about four king week three,

1106
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: four five. The goal. The goal is to have the

1107
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: fork committee all decided by mid season, but maybe maybe

1108
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: you wait till week six seven to really get the

1109
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: fort I could see both sides of this. It's it's

1110
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: a key part of the podcast, and listeners seem to

1111
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: like it, but it is ultimately doomed exercise. It's an

1112
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: imperfect science, let's put it that way. So, but getting

1113
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: back to it, so West you will, it's a little forgratuous.

1114
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna block the Titans and save them.

1115
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: I would rather fork the cow I really want to

1116
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: fork the Cowboys, and I'm okay with forking the Redskins

1117
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: if we also a ford the Cowboys. I feel like

1118
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: we're in a good place here because I would have

1119
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: been fighting tooth and now to get rid of the

1120
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: Titans if that news didn't break with anti luck. But

1121
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: that changes it, so I'm okay now that they're still existing.

1122
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: In fact, don't forget they also lost one of the

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00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: best defensive players, Henry Anderson out. That's we said we

1124
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: wanted to be bold. You can you can be a

1125
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,440
Speaker 1: little more bold forking the team with Tony Romo waiting

1126
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,439
Speaker 1: in reserve than than the Tennessee Titans. Really, my main,

1127
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: you know point today was to make sure the Redskins

1128
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: didn't survive another one of these. They should have been

1129
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: forked weeks ago. And as long as that's taken care of,

1130
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: I can go along the Cowboys. Did you see what happened?

1131
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: By the way, just as I predicted, West got put

1132
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: in a tough spot with his his real team that

1133
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: he loves, the Patriots banged both his little pet projects

1134
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins and the Redskins, and now both of

1135
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: them add consideration. But look, I don't love the Patriots.

1136
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: They're fun carrying that water up and down the hill.

1137
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: They're fun to watch, they deserve respect, and they win

1138
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: every year. What's the wrong? I know? I can't the Redskins.

1139
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: That was just my anti Cowboys project. Well, also, that's

1140
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: my Henry is gonna have to use a sport for

1141
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: the rest of his life project if they win the

1142
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: NFC east Um, Henry Hodgson, our director of programming downstairs,

1143
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 1: hands the Max. So alright, so I feel like we're

1144
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: in a good place here. We're going. What we're basically

1145
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: saying is we're forking the Cowboys and Redskins, which means

1146
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: the NFC will only come down to the Eagles and Giants.

1147
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: That's logical. And let the record show I'm forking to

1148
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys with gusto. Okay, it is noted. I will note

1149
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: it here. Uh. And the Tennessee Titans. Amazingly, the Raiders

1150
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: didn't survive, could end up and they haven't been forked yet.

1151
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: We are really counting hard on Mike Mularkey. Well, part

1152
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: of it is the likability factor. I'm all in on

1153
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: rooting for the Titans to win this division. I'm fine

1154
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: with that or the I would be fine with the

1155
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: Jaggers here, So I'm good. At least it's a team

1156
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: I can root for. So the team's yeah, So the

1157
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: team's really that we're leaving kind of out there to

1158
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: get the job done and fight for the playoffs. Uh. Done,

1159
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: some good old fashioned horse trading. Let's see we got yeah,

1160
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: we think the Rams are gonna be in the mix

1161
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot the Titans somehow. Uh we got

1162
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: rid of the Cowboys. Yeah, so Steelers and Jets, Vikings, Viking. Okay,

1163
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: there it is. We have forked the league. The exercises

1164
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: complete a flawed exercise, Greg, Yes, but we'll see how

1165
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: it turns out. If yeah, I mean, if the Raiders

1166
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: end up going ten and six. Uh, we will be

1167
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: taught a very a very hard lesson and we're gonna

1168
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: and we'll donate to uh the Oakland area y m C,

1169
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: A Boys and Girls club or whatever wherever you want

1170
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: donate to keep in the Raiders in Oakland. That's yes,

1171
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: we will. If we get a four team wrong or

1172
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: multiple four teams wrong, we make a charitable donation to

1173
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: that sin. I feel like that's very magnanimous of this, right.

1174
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: I think we're the real heroes. All right, let's get

1175
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: to it now. Our last topic to discuss Thursday night football. Yes,

1176
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: Rex Bowl one Jets versus the Bills, UH, a game

1177
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: at the Meadowlands. The hype is building and it's you know,

1178
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: all Rex Ryan based, and I you know, I like

1179
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: Rex this. I wish Sessler was here right now because

1180
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: Sessler is a very die Rex Ryan figure and within

1181
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: the NFL media um umbrella. Uh. But Rex really is

1182
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: not having a great week so far in terms of

1183
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: the hype. I think he he's trying a bit too hard.

1184
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: The uh I k and in Polly, the decision to

1185
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: make him the captain, that's one thing, but to really

1186
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: not even if there's no wink to it. He he

1187
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: welcomed that discussion when he announced it in the press

1188
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: conference on Monday and everything that meant, Yeah, it's kind

1189
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: of fun, but also a little a little bit out

1190
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: of school, I think, because in Polly this isn't just

1191
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: the guy used to be on the Jets. He assaulted

1192
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: the Jets quarterback do you know Smith? And now he's

1193
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: gonna go out to midfield. And then on Tuesday, Rex

1194
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: came out wearing a Clemson helmet for whatever his reason,

1195
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: his son plays on Clemson or something, just knowing that

1196
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: all the cameras are gonna be on est. So look,

1197
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: Rex is having fun with this, but that's a little

1198
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: tiresome to me. The game itself, I think this is

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01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a very close game. The Jets are banged up.

1200
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 1: They're not gonna have a uh Antonio Cromarti, which might

1201
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: not be the worst thing, but their secondaries beat up.

1202
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: The Bills are flying high in terms of confidence, and

1203
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: they are more healthy on offense. I think this is

1204
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna go either way. Your thoughts, Guys, I'm really fascinated

1205
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: to watch when the Bills have the ball on offense.

1206
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: There the performance they had running the ball last week,

1207
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: the dominance of their offensive line, and how good Lashawn

1208
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: McCoy look going up against what should be the strength

1209
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: of the Jets. What really has been the strength on

1210
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: defense except the last two weeks they haven't. What's going

1211
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: on there? Damn By the way, why aren't they tackling

1212
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: in the run game? They were, they've been better. Uh wait,

1213
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: you're so the front seven was fine? I thought didn't

1214
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday. They were terrible the week before and Murray

1215
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: ran all over. Yeah, they did not have a good week,

1216
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: but they were better last week. Feel a little bit

1217
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: and they actually they did something we talked about on

1218
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: Sunday with mauld and they've been getting a path. They

1219
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 1: had six sacks of bortles, so they did a good job.

1220
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: It's the back end of the defense. Everybody gets six

1221
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: sex of well. Leonard Williams has been quiet for a

1222
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and that's any cause for concern. Moe

1223
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Wilkerson is really the best player on that line. As

1224
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: much as they've added Sheldon Richardson and you know this

1225
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: whole line around him. Of course with Williams mo Wakerson's

1226
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: having the best year and he's been the most consistent.

1227
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: But for that team to go up against the Bills,

1228
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: team who really did whatever they wanted running the ball

1229
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: is gonna be fun to watch. And they didn't try

1230
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: to throw it much last week. But when Tyrod Taylor

1231
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: did throw it, he had all day and if he

1232
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,360
Speaker 1: couldn't find anyone open, he made them pay. And I

1233
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: just I can't wait to watch this game. I like

1234
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: watching both of these teams. Now. Watkins had trouble with

1235
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: Rivas last year when Rivas was playing with the Patriots,

1236
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 1: and if Rivas can do what he did in Oakland

1237
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: where he basically took him are Cooper out of the game.

1238
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: The Bills don't have a Michael Crabtree. I don't know

1239
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Cooper got out. When Cooper got open against Revas, he

1240
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 1: got open and why that was when I wanted to

1241
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: watch just on the the All twenty two just to

1242
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: see their matchup. And man, his footwork is is great

1243
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: and it might have just been Derek Carr being smart

1244
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: just going away from Rivas, but he he made some

1245
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: plays that that matchup is great. This a great TNF

1246
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: one thing to watch, and this is uh the book

1247
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 1: could be out a little bit on the Jets defense.

1248
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: They no, uh, no team is having to face more

1249
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: uh five wide sets and they're basically trying to counteract

1250
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: the Jets defensive line by just getting the ball out

1251
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: quick and taking taking advantage of a secret. It's not

1252
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: playing well right, But the Jets probably want the Bills

1253
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: to do five wide sets and put the game in

1254
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor's hands as a passer. They don't want to

1255
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: have to I don't know, well, I guess it depends

1256
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: if you think Tyrod Taylor can can beat the Jets

1257
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: that way. That's that's how you decide who wins this game,

1258
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: and that's how the Jets are expected to attack the Bills.

1259
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan said, you can start writing the stories now,

1260
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: because we're not we're gonna struggle to get sacks against

1261
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: the Jets. They're gonna spread it out. And there it's

1262
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: almost like he was daring uh Chan Gailey, who has

1263
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: done a great job this year, by the way, to

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Speaker 1: to spread them out and do what they've been doing,

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Speaker 1: which is Fitzpatrick throwing short passes. Your boy Eric Decker,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I feel like he needs to get

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Speaker 1: some credit just he's having a very very good season,

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Speaker 1: the same player he's always been. Everybody just wants to

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Speaker 1: relegate him to some afterthought. Yeah, that's fair. Well he Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had him out of position last year, trying to

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Speaker 1: make him the number one with a bad quarterback. Uh,

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Speaker 1: speaking of quarterbacks, number two is a much better suited

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Speaker 1: west Greg The floor is yours. Something to give Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick a little love. He's having a nice little He

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Speaker 1: moves very well in the pocket, He's very solid. I

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Speaker 1: liked his performance last week. He's been very good, better

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Speaker 1: than I think Gaily and him deserve a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit together for putting together what they've had. He's been protected.

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Speaker 1: They need the old mang Gold back though. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've you've been laming Chris Ivory, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: He's getting hit in the backfield a lot. I'm not

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Speaker 1: just blame. I'm not putting it on Chris Ivory, but

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Speaker 1: there's been a total breakdown in their in their running game,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna win that match up

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Speaker 1: against the Bills at all. If they're having trouble against

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in terms of the interior, the Bills are

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Speaker 1: going to crush him. What is up with the QB.

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Speaker 1: You guys love that espn QB are I love me

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Speaker 1: some fits magic, but he's ranked three in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Q be are about that. He's been a little underrated

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Speaker 1: on Greg's list all year. Yes, I guess I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to influence the QB. And yeah, what do you gotta

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Speaker 1: do to put him? Put him ahead of Bridgewater and Cutler?

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Speaker 1: Come on, Cutler, they're close. He definitely will be ahead

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Speaker 1: of Bridgewater this one. That's what I'm talking about. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe he's been playing really well. I think he's been

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Speaker 1: getting better than His last three games that he's played

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Speaker 1: have been maybe his three best since the opener. Since

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Speaker 1: Mark's not here, I would I would just like to

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Speaker 1: echo the Rex Ryan sentiment subconsciously. I don't even he

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Speaker 1: just seems like all hype to me anymore. I just

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Speaker 1: feel like, whenever there's a big game, he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: come through. His team is gonna be too anty, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be too fired up, and it's gonna be all

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Speaker 1: hype and no substance. This will be a great test

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Speaker 1: of that theory because on a short week, and again

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Speaker 1: I think that I think the Jets are vulnerable this

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Speaker 1: week with what what's going on with them injury wise.

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Speaker 1: What you said, Nick Mangold, what's going on in their

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Speaker 1: secondary um If if Rex does not have this team

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Speaker 1: ready to play this game, you gotta ask questions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like he's good for the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I like that he cuts it up, he keeps it loose.

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Speaker 1: That's great. But sooner or later you gotta stop talking

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Speaker 1: and start winning. All right, Let's go around uh the

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Speaker 1: table here real quick before we go, uh winner and

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Speaker 1: score Chris Wesley Jets four Bills. I like that. I

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Speaker 1: will go with the exact same score, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go Bills winning this game. I think the Bills win

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Speaker 1: this game, and then the a f C wild Card

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Speaker 1: is just wide open, blown open. There's no favorites. I

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Speaker 1: think they're the more talented team overall. That's really close.

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Speaker 1: I just think they're gonna get this and that's how

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Speaker 1: it's gonna work out. So you're sucked in a little

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Speaker 1: bit though, because you got the Jekyl and Hide Bills.

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Speaker 1: I've been sucked in all year though. I I fully

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Speaker 1: admit that there's a they could lay here. There's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of bias in me and that I believe

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Speaker 1: this team could win ten eleven games. I thought it

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Speaker 1: before the season, before seeing how tyrod t. I think

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Speaker 1: this team has a really high ceiling. There you go.

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Speaker 1: So there is the Thursday night preview. We will be

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Speaker 1: back on you know, our late Thursday early Friday show,

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Speaker 1: will recap this game with Greg and West and then

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Speaker 1: we will get into all the uh the games on

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Speaker 1: the schedule for week ten. We are just rolling. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna preview all those games. That'll be fun. We'll have

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Speaker 1: another special guest in the studio. I won't say anything

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Speaker 1: else for now, but that's it. This is Dan Hansas

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Speaker 1: signing off for the Mailman, Chris Wesley, Greg rosenthalso known

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Speaker 1: as the Boss, getting well, Mark Sessler the Sisslor in

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Speaker 1: Sydney behind the glass until Friday. Everything to talk. It