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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast as Deep Roots in Martha's Spiniard.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joining in the

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Speaker 1: room filled with hero so many heroes. Mark Cessler, he's back,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthalt, and back for the first time

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Speaker 1: in a pit in a minute, Andrew Siciliano of NFL

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Speaker 1: Network Fame. Was it something I said, Hey, are you

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Speaker 1: just starting to starting just asking? Dan said, it's been

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Speaker 1: a while, so actually there is some history. And this

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Speaker 1: is a make up date like the Yankees are down

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Speaker 1: in making up a rain out. You are here, all set,

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Speaker 1: Andrew's coming on the show week twelve or something last year.

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Speaker 1: We're all excited. Deshaun Watson blows out as a c

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Speaker 1: here we are pretty much. I am not in any

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Speaker 1: way offended. I am happy to be here. I'm merely

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Speaker 1: asking because I know it's a question. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 1: being a narcissistant that people at home would ask, why

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Speaker 1: has it been so ultimately got to ask quest I

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Speaker 1: had cancer. I was removed from the situation here that yeah,

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Speaker 1: one thing about having cancer is the best part about

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Speaker 1: his ability ability to use the C card whenever and

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Speaker 1: wherever you want. It's not have no comment. It's not

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Speaker 1: dissimilar to after you have kids, you get to get

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Speaker 1: out of a bunch of things you don't want to

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Speaker 1: go to be got the kids. Can't do it. You

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Speaker 1: gotta do this, gotta do that. That said, you could

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Speaker 1: also in life not have kids and also just say

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Speaker 1: no to things. But it's a bit of a long,

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Speaker 1: a big, long road to take to have that excuse

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Speaker 1: up here Upviously, yes, Sessler's is I am in my

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Speaker 1: underwear watching television. By the way, we were knocked off

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Speaker 1: up to the minute um the day that Deshaun Watson's

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Speaker 1: knee went out. So I think it's actually us who

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Speaker 1: have the more powerful um in this scenario. It was

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Speaker 1: actually a Thursday, because I could tell you I was

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Speaker 1: on stage four. I remember it specifically, so it really

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Speaker 1: wasn't up to the minute. I believe it was Tina

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Speaker 1: first look that day, probably we weren't scheduled for that show.

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Speaker 1: Then I just I don't like it. I thought we

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Speaker 1: were going to get bumped that day. We got bumped

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Speaker 1: for that. You got to talk to the boss about

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Speaker 1: I just work, you know, sinking up all that. There's

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Speaker 1: too many different show titles. We actually art show around

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Speaker 1: the NF You guys stole the name of the show.

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Speaker 1: Let's cut the garbage here. The show was called around

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Speaker 1: the NFL, that around the league for many years, and

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Speaker 1: then I was told we can no longer have the

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Speaker 1: name we were. We were told we had to do it.

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Speaker 1: But this is the new like the it was the

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Speaker 1: jfk assassination. Where were you right? Where were you in

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Speaker 1: nine eleven happened? Now it's where were you when DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Watson blood? As they know, there's no doubt that this

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Speaker 1: who did? I know? I like the new logo. It's

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Speaker 1: stole a little jarring on Twitter because you know, your

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Speaker 1: little who came up with it? Greg? Greg? You did it?

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Speaker 1: The NFL design people. It was. It was explained, why

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Speaker 1: didn't he I don't know if we talked about this

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Speaker 1: they're going to work up a new logo. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys want to be involved, Like, I know these

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Speaker 1: guys don't want to be involved. I don't really want

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Speaker 1: like you guys wanted to be in the meetings anyway? No, No,

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Speaker 1: sorry this has already been covered in a previous time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: My point is you have new logos for all the

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Speaker 1: people listening that have no idea that it was your phone.

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Speaker 1: It was explained to me. Do you guys want to

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Speaker 1: offer your thoughts on what the logo looks like? Greg? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Cut to the meeting where they unveil it. It was

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Speaker 1: little playful props to the new logo. Alright, so welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Around the NFL podcast. Uh good news, bad news,

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Speaker 1: bad news. It's Monday. The good news. It's pretending to

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Speaker 1: of soccer Faneah people, people are you were in the

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Speaker 1: huddle with me, Dan, I believe when uh Spain scored

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Speaker 1: In our office, it gets loud in this one little

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Speaker 1: Classico with um Barcelona and Madrid, they get loud. I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry England, Robbie Kane, Robbie right in the ninete minute

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Speaker 1: nine minute, What is it, Harry Kane? It's Eric Kane.

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Speaker 1: you'll quite enjoy this moment because it's that's on two

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Speaker 1: like reliving it all over again. Gripping radio his Alec

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Speaker 1: Ferguson retired these days, Well he played Obie Knobie, didn't he?

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Speaker 1: edition of the podcast, UH an update on Odell Beckham

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Speaker 1: when summer break concludes. Uh. Tom Brady talked to Oprah.

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Speaker 1: and we will bring it back Unsolved Mysteries. We've done

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Speaker 1: this before. Oh yes, this might be something you can

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Speaker 1: I think unsolved mysteries. Uh. In the NFL as we

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Speaker 1: to Lindsay Fulton. How are you, Lenz? I'm just great

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Speaker 1: loving life these days. How about you? Guys? It sounds

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Speaker 1: like it alright. I'm happy to be here, beautiful. Let's

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Speaker 1: That's impressive. That's a bright love what attention Jim nance

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of soccer. I followed the sport.

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Speaker 1: The beautiful game is what I call it? Why is

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Speaker 1: it called soccer? Because you know, kicking around I don't

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Speaker 1: know short for association? Really, Yeah, that's how the word

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Speaker 1: soccer got came into be I called football. Start with

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Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham. He wants a new contract. We all know

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Speaker 1: that he hasn't gotten a new deal, but he did

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Speaker 1: you will. Well, we can put that to bed, can't Leandrew?

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Speaker 1: Did we doubt it? Well, I'm not throwing it back

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Speaker 1: he has done everything to convince the Giants that he

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Speaker 1: wall at Lambeau Right, but there is still some doubt

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Speaker 1: so he said, like, did we ever doubt it? This

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Speaker 1: is a rare instance of reporting that Vaci Vacciana, who

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Speaker 1: And then in that same article, Bracciano has a source

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Speaker 1: familiar with Beckham's plans saying there are still five and

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Beckham's camp is like still putting it

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Speaker 1: franchise him I mean, it's like, why was it? Do

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Speaker 1: twenty days for thirty days? Well, that the agent apparently

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Speaker 1: close to what he wants. It could work out for

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Speaker 1: wrecked his season. If he does play out this year

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Speaker 1: has an Odell Beckham type monster season? Was he he

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Speaker 1: has more leverage than just to put the Giants over

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Speaker 1: a barrel? Yeah, but I don't I personally don't see

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Speaker 1: him playing without a new contract. Right, That's the thing

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Speaker 1: this season. Well, we'll have to track that as we

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Speaker 1: get closer to training camp. You got a point that, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say the two thousand and fourteen first round.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we're talking about all these guys now, and Zack

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Speaker 1: Martin just got his deal. The interesting thing is no

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Speaker 1: one's really trying to figure out Clowney's number, and he

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming the media here, but I think people

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Speaker 1: in general choose to overlook you guys clearly do not Well,

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Speaker 1: what's Aaron Donald gonna do? What's Khalil mac gonna do?

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Speaker 1: They they have the Rams and the Raiders, and the

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Speaker 1: Giants do as well, that franchise card option, and it's

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Speaker 1: something you also have to consider when you're trying to

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Speaker 1: the Rams or the Raiders. I'm sure we'll hear, well,

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Speaker 1: here's what and Dominican Sue got right, here's what JJ,

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Speaker 1: be creative, show us something, Joe Philbin and Mike McCarthy like,

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00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,159
Speaker 1: give me a running back that makes plays for Aaron Rodgers.

426
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers always making running backs look better. How about

427
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: a running back that does some things on their own

428
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: makes him look better. I also have no problem with

429
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: running back running back by committee. I know Fabriano would

430
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: come in and beat me. Sec of course it has

431
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't less. Do you really think Fabiano could beat you? Sinse, No,

432
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: not at all. Actually, you have your arms are looking

433
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 1: somewhat jacked, and here in a short sleeve sh I

434
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: haven't worked out, and god knows how on the point

435
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: of the show where Andrew comes out we start talking

436
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: about his body. I feel like it happens. I'm fat.

437
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 1: How can we not? By the way, Mark, is it

438
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 1: time to take I think it might be we're gonna

439
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: take off over to the Mark Sessler fantasy corner. While

440
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: we're on this topic, let's head over there. It's been awhile,

441
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: let's head over to the corner. That's a surprise. I mean,

442
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: I look at this topic. I thought there's this is

443
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: a prime area to offer a little bit of fantasy

444
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: advice here in the middle of June, as you start

445
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: to prepare your potential rosters, Dynasty League stuff. I would

446
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: stay away from this backfield that's all I have to say.

447
00:23:54,920 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: All right, you're the Browns also are looking at committee. Well, yeah,

448
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 1: they've been doing a lot of things by committee for

449
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: a long time, and see how that works. They used

450
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: to be a time in your neighborhood mark where you

451
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: could hide in one of those phone booths. No longer now.

452
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: Actually corner actually is in his neighborhood because there's been

453
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: some there's been some drama in your neighborhood from time

454
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: to time. Actually, you're absolutely right, and we're talking to

455
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: your physical neighborhood. Yeah, it's not too I can you

456
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: can walk there from five minutes from at a fantasy corner.

457
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: There's some police actor robberies. There was a helicopter which

458
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure Dan heard this over our house for like

459
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: four hours last week to did they finally find you?

460
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: They yes, they did it, but it wasn't very There

461
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: is one little, tiny little nugget that was very annoying

462
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: because like this helicopter was looking for a runaway robber

463
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: and like I woke up Simone and I was like Simone,

464
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: like what, like are you hearing this? Because there were

465
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: police cars all parked outside of our house and She's like, oh,

466
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: I forgot I left the side gate open, and let's

467
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: there's a there's a suspect running around looking for shelter.

468
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: So I had to run out in like my underwear

469
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: and try to close the side gate with like a

470
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: helicopter light on me, thinking I'm gonna be viewed to

471
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: some suspect in my own home. I do love the

472
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: idea of at the end of a Mark staycation, Simone

473
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: just summons a helicopter to go searching. Pretty much. She's

474
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: like tech to culver city bars first, pretty much accurate.

475
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: They have a whole a whole map set up. They

476
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: just go across like a walking dance dancing put on

477
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: that task before it is fun. Finding Mark is fun.

478
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: Um all right. Finally, in the news, UH, you may

479
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: have heard, and I'm sure you have if you're moderately

480
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: plugged into popular culture, that jay Z and Beyonce dropped

481
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: a surprise album, UH, featuring the new single ape Poop.

482
00:25:50,640 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: Here's let's listen to it a little bit coming keeping while.

483
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 1: Are you checking your head because these guys think this

484
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: is jay Z. I don't think this is jay Z.

485
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: I was listening to jay Z before you were. I

486
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: was gonna say this. This sounds a little but I'm

487
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: laughing at at the what's going on here. I was

488
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: saying to our producer Lindsey Um before the show that

489
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: that's in our rights free library. Even though we're talking

490
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: directly about this album and should be able to play

491
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: a clip from the new album. Our bosses, the Shadowy

492
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: League figures and and all their brilliance say we can't

493
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 1: play anything even that's newsworthy. Um. So I was saying,

494
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: there's a guy that gets paid to sound like jay

495
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 1: Z for free libraries. That's an interesting niit that that's

496
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: pretty good. And I was grabbing my phone because I

497
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: honestly knew nothing of this album. Over the weekend, I've

498
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: been in a cave and and I was trying to

499
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: look up a story to be prepared. Okay, finally paid off.

500
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 1: So last year it's also on Apple Music now, which

501
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: I was um. Anyway, Um, jay Z was in the

502
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: news last year that jay Z in the NFL cannot

503
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: come to a deal for him to do the super Bowl.

504
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: And now jay Z on the new single with Beyonce

505
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: and the album is called Everything Is Love under the

506
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: title of the Carters. What is he saying? He says

507
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: this in the song Ape Poop. It's actually Ape s

508
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: a family show. I said no to the super Bowl.

509
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: You need you need me, I don't need you. Every

510
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: night we in the end zone tell the NFL we

511
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: in stadiums too. So that's a bit of a power

512
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: play by jay Z. But he's wrong. By the way,

513
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: Yes he could fill stadiums, but you look, there is

514
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: an absolute business monetary gain to be had from playing

515
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: half time in the super Bowl. It just if you

516
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: want more people to hear your music, has done it twice.

517
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: One says, what else you need to know? Top ten NFL,

518
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: Top ten NFL rap reference has that slid on the site?

519
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, top ten NFL, Top ten n FELL rapping.

520
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: I think Rhino made that slide show if I'd be

521
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: hard pressed come up, what's the number one? I don't know.

522
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: I just I I had Bismarck Key pop into my

523
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: head kicking like Bruce Lee and Jim Kelly, which made

524
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: no sense. Um. I think five Dog May he rest

525
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: in peace had a couple I gotta think of him.

526
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of NBA's too. I like Little

527
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: Wayne had like a Frank Gore reference on the Drought

528
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: three that was kind of like my right at the

529
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: end of Little Wayne's kind of incredible run there. So

530
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: that combination for me was that's big for you in

531
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: your world. That's what it was. Just the whitest conversation

532
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: about Kali Black and Yellow Black and what a horrible

533
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: song that is. Bangers banger is a plenty on this album.

534
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: Had shocked. I'm shocked at your didn't grab me. It's

535
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: all that's what's happening in the news. Mark, you wanted

536
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: to touch on something, well, I did, and I don't.

537
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: I religiously don't listen to this show when I'm not here,

538
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: so I can't reference this first person. But it has

539
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: come to my attention that the three of you, Andrew,

540
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: we do sandwich props here where we and we had

541
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: a super Bowl related one where I suggested that the

542
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowl would produce a play with a nickname that

543
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: would be bigger than anything before, bigger than the helmet catch,

544
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: bigger than anything in any previous Super Bowl. And I

545
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 1: came out of the game thinking, well I lost that,

546
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: But then the Philly Special or not not instantaneously, which

547
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: is as argument against me winning this, but over time

548
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: started to bubble up and gain. There was no time

549
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: limit on there. No, there's no time limit. So I

550
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a nebulous. Some people will say, yes,

551
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: it's bigger than the helmet catch. I actually believe that

552
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: the three of you probably came up with the correct results,

553
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: except I don't like the way that you did it

554
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: with me not here it is it is clown work

555
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: to operate that way. While I am out out of

556
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: the studio. I think phillis specials legitimate. I mean, it's

557
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: been trademarked, it's on T shirts. It's big. I mean

558
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: they the number of the diamonds in the ring. It's

559
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: just every week it just seems to keep keeps gathering momentum.

560
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: That's our listeners are on now and blowing up stories

561
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: and misrepresenting them. When a person of the podcast is near,

562
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I went out of my way to say, I'm proud

563
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: of you. They really nailed this thing. Well, I'm also

564
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: rabble rousing because I didn't hear it, so I will

565
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: go listen. Did at the time that it was a

566
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: little strong to say he was proud of you. I

567
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: I kind of I appreciate that. Once again, we we

568
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: gave you credit that it was a long shot and

569
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: you're very close. But if we have to judge you

570
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: got it, well, I don't know. Hold on you, I

571
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: guess I actually bigger. Okay, I'm I'm confused. I thought

572
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: it was that there would be a play with an

573
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: iconic name. What you said is that the iconic name

574
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: would trump the others when we do these propositions, and

575
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: I always managed to add a layer of detail that

576
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: dooms to make it right, because they probably would have

577
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: taken me up had I not included the word bigger.

578
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Then I agree with your with your flag, there is

579
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: not bigger than one of the listeners has sent. This

580
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: does not pass the look at yourself in the mirror test. Apparently,

581
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: is this super Bowl only? Super Bowl only? There's no fumble,

582
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: there's no has Beyonce you know said on this album

583
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: which delights me. It's like get off my come on?

584
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: She said it, not something Greg said utter too many times.

585
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: But hey, that time you said that on up to

586
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: the minute I thought was great too. One tip mark, like,

587
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: if you are going to come at us like that,

588
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: I know I listened, you know, listen, give the second

589
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: list whenever number one you can make a proposition and

590
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: you come you take it nine yards and fail. I'm

591
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: fine with that. And then to come up at you

592
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: three with literally no research done. That's part B of that.

593
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: All right, So you came close but no cigar. Uh?

594
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: All right? Now it's like always drive just stopped at

595
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: the two yard limb? Can I hear fake jay Z again?

596
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: I just say, enjoy his fake work sounds nothing like

597
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: jay Z. This isn't even fake jay Z. You're wrong.

598
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of fake early, early, faked. Jake Barrow sounds

599
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: more like jay Z than this guy. This is Sean

600
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,479
Speaker 1: Carter s e a n It sounds like the NFL

601
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: hired rappers that wrap about like the upcoming game on

602
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: those hideous commercial segments. This is j Wy Okay, all right,

603
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: let's move on now. Yes, we are in the summer

604
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: dark period. It's enjoy it and what happens during the

605
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: summer dark period, but you find ways to get our

606
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: blood pumping. Well the NFL West and thank you. This

607
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: music is pay flashbacks. The NFL goes dark but leaves

608
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: behind unsolved mysteries. So that's what we're here for. That's

609
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: what the money's for. They go dark, we stay we

610
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: try to bring the light to darkness. Only light can

611
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: defeat the darkness. So that's why we're here. Mark, that's

612
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: good preamble. Welcome back, by the way, thank you for um.

613
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go around the room. Andrew Siciliano of

614
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: NFL Network's a minute live host that great skill, also

615
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: the red zone. And a lot of people say, oh

616
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: Siciliano or handsome, are you gotian? But we always side

617
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: with a friend of the show. How much story are

618
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: you for them? I mean, that's not even close. Thank you,

619
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: so Verner belowtour, I like that, So I love you guys.

620
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: So let's go around the room and offer up one

621
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: unsolved mystery. And maybe I oversold all of us because

622
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: we're not nearly we're not necessarily giving the answer to

623
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: the mystery, but we're just putting it out there. Just

624
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: like Robert Stack once did. There's not a right, but

625
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: there's not always an update at the end that the

626
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: mystery it's out there is a mistery and maybe come

627
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: the end of August or the end of the season,

628
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: you get the update and everybody gets a little excited

629
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: in their pants and you get the update. But for now, supercabra.

630
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: It was actually a fox. I have spent an embarrassing

631
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: amount of time in my life researching everybody's had a

632
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: chop acabra like here, Yes, it was. It was a

633
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: pincher of some kind. I believe Mark gets well. I mean,

634
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of Weather Warren storylines out there.

635
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: The one for me, I'd like to see whether or

636
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Speaker 1: not Earl Thomas is on the Seahawks when the season begins,

637
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Speaker 1: because for all the back and forth, it seems to

638
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: be getting a bit more contentious. And they asked Pete

639
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: Carroll will he be on the roster and his response was,

640
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: we'll see. This is one of the best players that

641
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: we've watched while we've been on this podcast together. And

642
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: for the record, the president says, we'll see for every

643
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: he does. I I Pete Carroll maybe a bit of

644
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: a different guy. Um, I'm I'm interested to see if

645
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: they might move him because that Seattle obviously this offseason,

646
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 1: for the first time and with this regime, have made

647
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: it very clear that they're starting over at many position groups,

648
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: that the identity of this team is coming completely overhauled,

649
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: and the players that are going are long term veterans

650
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: that are overtly not buying into what Pete Carroll is

651
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: selling at this point, and Earl Thomas mate may not

652
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: be on board with this rebuilding plan, and maybe the

653
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Seahawks move on. We will see. He's definitely the most

654
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: likely of all the potential holdouts, which is a great

655
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: list of players this year. I mean they're the best

656
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: players in the league. Levian bell Air and Donald Cleio,

657
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: mack Garl Thomas, you know, Julio Jones, right, it goes on.

658
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: I mean these are like first team All pros. He's

659
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: the most likely to get traded before the season or

660
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: that's something crazy could happen. He's waiting for the Cowboys

661
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: to give up like forty two points in the third

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: preseason game, and then Jerry Jones had just like flip

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00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: out and send it first. I still see it as

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Speaker 1: I could see him with the star on his helmet

665
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: and and then giving up a first round pick that

666
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: they have no business giving up and making it happen.

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00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: I could see it, like I feel like you said

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Speaker 1: the most underreported storyline that you're surprised about West that

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00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: it was Tom Brady. To me, it's it's the new

670
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: empathy post by Pete Carroll that's the most underreported story

671
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: of the off season. That like if I feel like

672
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: he put that out there and everyone is just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just Pete being Pete. I don't know if Kanye

674
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: West put that out or something like, people would have

675
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: gone crazy, what you know, what's wrong with this person?

676
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: You have a major issue with this empathy thing. And

677
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: I have a major issue with anybody who's an issue

678
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: with empathy. Well, I don't have an you with them.

679
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: What's wrong with empathy? Empathy is great, but like you,

680
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: you're overreacting to like how bizarre this is or how weird.

681
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's post was I think like at the bottom

682
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Speaker 1: of it, he's coming from a warm place. Okay, I

683
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, look at the look what he's

684
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: asking for and look what other people in this country

685
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: are asking for. What he's asking for is pretty sense

686
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: during a new part of his life. And I wonder

687
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: how connecting with you know, twenty two year old football

688
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: players fits into the look. He has been able and

689
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: this goes back to sc as well. He has been

690
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: able to connect with young people and he has been

691
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Speaker 1: able to um make people forget how old he is.

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Speaker 1: How old is Pete? Can we do the google real quick?

693
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Speaker 1: Upper sixties? I think he's pushing seventy. Pete does not

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00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: look seven and September. Look so he's gonna be sixty

695
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: seven this season. He looks great. He he moves a

696
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: lot slower. Pete Pete's that guy. I'm compared him to

697
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Speaker 1: Jim Brown real quick. Jim Brown obviously now where uses

698
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: a cane and he's really slow. Jim Brown has had

699
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: trouble moving around for years, but when he would walk

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Speaker 1: through an airport, and I've seen this many times, he

701
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: does not want you to see that he is slow

702
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Speaker 1: and he is gonna move. And Pete is that guy

703
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: as well. Pete Pete's got a little trouble moving around,

704
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: but he is never going to let you know that

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00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: he is not a young man still. Um, it was

706
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: a bit of a stretch with that comparison, but you

707
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: get my point. And that's why the field week one, well, look,

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00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: he he had to get rid of all the old

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00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: guys that are now sick of that act. I feel

710
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: like Earls the outlier. I think Earl's sick of it,

711
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: but Earl would like to get paid and that is

712
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: the most important thing. And if getting paid happens in Seattle,

713
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: then he's all in. Earl Thomas feels like a major

714
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: part of an era of Seahawks football that is over now. Yeah,

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00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 1: he's the He's the guy that's still lingering west. Give

716
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: us a mystery that's yet to be So. It seems

717
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: like it should be the goal of every sports franchise

718
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: to be at least semi successful and stay on in

719
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: the playoff hunt every year. But it takes more than that.

720
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Speaker 1: Your team has to be fun, it has to be exciting,

721
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: has to have buy in from people, especially fans. For

722
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: the entire existence of this podcast, we've been throwing shade

723
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs for being boring because we didn't and

724
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: also because we didn't trust it. We didn't think an

725
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Alex Smith let team could get to the super Bowl

726
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: and winning. To me, the biggest unsolved mystery is when

727
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: the calendar flips from July to August to September, are

728
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: we going to discover that the Patrick Mahomes Chiefs are

729
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: must watch TV and they might be our favorite team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think they're going to be must watch?

731
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: But does must watch mean consistently winning. No, to me,

732
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Speaker 1: it's con consistently captivating. I think they're gonna be captivating

733
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Speaker 1: because I think that guy's fantastically fun to watch, But

734
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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's gonna gonna translate into winning

735
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: every week. Well, I would, I wouldn't expect that the

736
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Speaker 1: happening year one. Well, defense they have, they have a

737
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,919
Speaker 1: lot of room for improvement on defense. They have Kareem Hunt,

738
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Speaker 1: who's pretty under the radar for a guy who led

739
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: the league and rushing as a rookie. You know he

740
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: can get better. Tyree kill at Travis calls. I mean

741
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: they are primed. They have a lot of and a

742
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver making sixteen million you haven't mentioned. Yeah, they

743
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: have potential to be better. If Mahomes in Alex Smith, right,

744
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: and this didn't happen in a desperate fashion. I mean

745
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: they could have if they wanted to, if they really

746
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: didn't feel Mahomes could make the leap. And Andy Reid

747
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about when it comes to quarterbacks.

748
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: They didn't have to trade Alex Smith. They could have

749
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Speaker 1: kept them both for another year because they're not ultimately

750
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: looking for someone to replicate Smith. They're looking for a

751
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: guy that's now difference maker, higher ceiling, totally different higher ceiling,

752
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: whether that ceiling if he reaches that in year one,

753
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: if he does, look out. Even though Alex Smith had

754
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: his best statistically, which can be deceiving his best downfield

755
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: throwing season and his best overall season of his career,

756
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: I think a little under the radar. I think just

757
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: a pigyback on that has anyone read at all into

758
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins comments about how fun and how exciting and

759
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: how he's on the same page with a quarterback and

760
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: how this offense suits him as a very subtle diss

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Speaker 1: to two thousand seventeen here in l A. Am I

762
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: the only one now, I think that sees that a

763
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: little bit said some things that he basically, look, he

764
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: got there latent car not not he got midway through camp.

765
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: It's late before the season to get and basically he

766
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: thought he's over there as the X on one side

767
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: of the field. He's drawn double teams the whole season

768
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: and that's part and he's just running those vertical routes

769
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: and that he was, you know, that was his role.

770
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Speaker 1: You know. I think coaches would say, well, you gotta

771
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: be better to beat those double teams and do something

772
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: like that. But his role was that and that's it

773
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: for the Rams, and maybe that wasn't that much. I

774
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: mean that offense helped him to the second most touchdowns

775
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: he's had in his career in the season two. He

776
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: denied in any way have a a bad season, but

777
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: it never was you know, through the roof as the

778
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: offense was through anybody call you Drew. Most of my

779
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: am my family does almost almost expensively. Yeah, Drew, give

780
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: us an unsolved mystery. So I have like ten of them,

781
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: but I will take an easy one. And I truly

782
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: do think it is a mystery. And that is regardless

783
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: of how optimistic. And I think we all notice the

784
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: difference in tone and attitude, demeanor, everything from Andrew Luck

785
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: last week. We still really don't know if he's going

786
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: to consistently be able to let it rip. And when

787
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: they say that he wants to manage training camp as

788
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: if it's a game week, only throw one or two

789
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: times during that game week, Well, training camp is a

790
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: little different, um, and I am all for and I

791
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: read what Brier wrote this morning about easing him in,

792
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: and they are not going to push at any and everything,

793
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: and his attitude told me a lot last week. It

794
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: is still a mystery as to whether or not all

795
00:42:54,719 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: of this caution and optimism will mean hump Settember. He's

796
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: the guy that we saw three years and that, to

797
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,839
Speaker 1: me is a mystery. There are other ones like can

798
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Matt Neggie and Mitch it's Mitch now not Mitchell Smart.

799
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: Can Matt Neeggie and Mitch Drabinsky have that same kind

800
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: of offensive leap that's say Sean mcvagh and Jared Goff

801
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: had last year. That's what the Bears want. I mean,

802
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: they're really I mean they would love to see that

803
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: young coach top of the draft quarterback bam year two.

804
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: It happens with more offensive weapons around. I think that

805
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: is a mystery as well. I also think from visiting

806
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: Detroit a couple of weeks ago, we're to lost track

807
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: of time. Well I was, I was in Chicago to

808
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I love that the shows on the road. I've heard

809
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: for five straight years, five straight years, that the Lions

810
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: are going to run the ball this year, and damn

811
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: it didn't mean it. They mean it now that it

812
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 1: seems wherever you put rag Now left guard or wherever

813
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: that they have all the pieces in place on that

814
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: offensive line, right, Can they actually run the football this year?

815
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Speaker 1: Because I mean, if I had a dollar for every

816
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: year they've claimed it's gonna work, I'd probably have five dollars.

817
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, I keep hearing it. Well,

818
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: they they're running backs were always either a bunch of

819
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: guys who were jitterbugs or a bunch of guys who

820
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: are big but way too slow to be playing the position.

821
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Speaker 1: And now they've got like Gerrit Blunt, and they've got

822
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Speaker 1: Carrie on Johnson who might be a good mix of both.

823
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Speaker 1: So at least the personnel is is different than it's

824
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 1: been in that whole five years that you're talking about.

825
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: And Abdullah as well, whatever they decided to do with them.

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Speaker 1: There was one thing that I did take from Detroit

827
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Speaker 1: about the running backs. They may actually have a surplus

828
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: at the end of the at the end of the

829
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: at the end of August could be an interesting trade.

830
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Can they may have a surplus there? Keep an eye

831
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: on that. Um. Moving on an unsolved mystery. In the

832
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: a f c S North Division, Robert Stack emerges out

833
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: of the fog yard a creepy trench coach. What what's

834
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: coming on over you know, Raven's nest the quarterbacks situation,

835
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: because obviously Joe Flacco is still capital t capital m

836
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 1: the man in terms of getting the reps. But John

837
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is continuously finding ways to get Lamar Jackson, the

838
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: number thirty two overall pick on the field. Uh. He's

839
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 1: lining up at multiple positions throughout offseason practice, which got

840
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: some people in the football GA Sine fired up because,

841
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: oh no, this is how you rule Lamar jack conduct.

842
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: But he called that just a little bit. Uh. But

843
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: it does remain to be seen what they're gonna do here,

844
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: how Flacco react to it, how you're able to coexist

845
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: if you do try to play two quarterbacks. Here's a

846
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: quote from Harbaugh. Gosh, I sure like him out there

847
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: helping us. If you put two quarterbacks on the field

848
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: at once, what options does it create for our offense?

849
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to find out. Greg The ray

850
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: evens could look very different on offense unless this is

851
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: all just talk. I thought Harbaugh was throwing that out

852
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: there to just get people thinking, and I'm they'll think

853
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: about it. I think I'm sure they'll try to maybe

854
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: do it as a trick play every three games or something.

855
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to change their offense.

856
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: Over under twelve snaps this year with two quarterbacks on

857
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: the field for the Ravens over, I'll take over. Really

858
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: you're buying it now? How how many teams since you've

859
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: been following football I have used two quarterbacks on the

860
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: field at the same time more than ten snaps in

861
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: a season. But doesn't have answer? Doesn't this feel about

862
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez out on the on the They tried it

863
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: with Manzell and Hoyer and the quickly went away. But

864
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: doesn't this feel like a scenario where the team and

865
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: this specific example, something could happen because Joe Flacco is

866
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: fading because Jackson no, because then I'm out wide like

867
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: they always be a statue like he is when he's

868
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. I don't believe it because NFL players are

869
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: so good that Lamar Jackson without any training or very

870
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: little training, isn't gonna be as good as a number

871
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: three receiver or your number three running back or whatever.

872
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: I find it interesting that they have r G three

873
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: on the team who years ago, some years ago would

874
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: have been the guy you would want on the field

875
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: along with another quarterback to use in different ways, even

876
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: in the conversation. I'm gonna to to Lamar Jackson, Hey, hey, guys,

877
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: I got this. Hey, I'm the mature one who's gonna

878
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: handle grooming the young quarterback. I got that. I got Mark,

879
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: I got an update for you. Update r G three

880
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 1: has been released. Well, I wouldn't be shocked at all

881
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: if he didn't even make after he teaches Lamar Jackson

882
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: how to slow that right. How often do they keep

883
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks? Nobody keeps three, So I would say this

884
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson. It is not a story to me

885
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: that they may use him on the field with Joe Flacco.

886
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: It is a story that John Harbaugh made a very

887
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: transparent and blatant attempt on Tuesday for the very first time,

888
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: because he really didn't do it in rookie minicamp, but

889
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: he didn't do it on draft Day to go, Hey, everybody,

890
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: y'all better start thinking about this. I am now willing

891
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: to admit that we're looking at this stuff. So I'm

892
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: gonna throw it out there that I'm surprised he did

893
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: it in June and didn't wait until later to you know,

894
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: to pull that card out. Maybe week one, A little

895
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: trip to the Ravens nest. It's rare. Close this out, Greg,

896
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: all right, an unsolved mystery. The gravity toss in your

897
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: voice immediately takes us there. We're to a we're in

898
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: an old doc, you know, as the Cowboys talk about

899
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: their Dak friendly offense, the phrase I didn't want to

900
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: hear anymore as this offseason, and they say, oh, we

901
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 1: don't really need a number one receiver, don't don't worry

902
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: about that. They got a little problem. They don't even

903
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: have a number two receives. And so my unsolved mystery

904
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: is basically, just who is Dak Prescott throwing the ball through?

905
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: I don't care that their folk guessed on the running

906
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: game and that it's two thousand eighteen. You have to

907
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: throw the ball. Their number one receiver in terms of

908
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: production by a good margin is Terrence Williams. He is

909
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: the most productive and a steamed player on that team

910
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: you have, I mean in terms of NFL career experience.

911
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: He might be gone in the beginning of the season

912
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: with the suspension. Anyways, you're county on Alan cut You're

913
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: county on Alan Hearns to be a big factor, maybe

914
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: a third round rookie Michael Gallup, maybe Tavon Smith, who

915
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: you also play running back, maybe Cole Beasley, who was

916
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just disappeared last year. Like you,

917
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: you cannot get by with a bunch of guys who

918
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: are probably three and four receivers. It's not that they

919
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: just don't have a number one is they don't really

920
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: have a starter level receiver. And they've been talking about

921
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: advanced the ball through the air right your trailing. They've

922
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: been talking about Michael Gallup all offseason, but even the

923
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 1: first round receivers have been so hot and cold their

924
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: first year, if not sometimes the second. I mean it's

925
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: not the production, right. I have a different unsolved mystery

926
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: about the cowpol When is our employer going to change

927
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: his name to the National Cowboys Network? Oh? Thanks, dad?

928
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: Like stories are the Cowboys? I can't I can call

929
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: home without in the first sixty seconds my dad telling me,

930
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: and I really liked your show today until you got

931
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. Every day you have to wait long

932
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: to get to the Cowboys. Disappointed me again. Somebody's punching

933
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 1: the cuts on the Titans practice field. Let's break away

934
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: from that. Because somebody sneezed in the Cowboys locker room.

935
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: Do your parents watch you every day? The show is

936
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: on the majority of days, That doesn't mean they make

937
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: it through. My parents are and there. Sometimes you don't

938
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: hold their interests through the entire what I'm getting at

939
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: My parents are in like seven days later from Frisco.

940
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 1: Let's move on for Eastern Ishes right around midday nap time,

941
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: so they sometimes do snooze with the TV on. Yes,

942
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: and and older. They love Jane, however, um, they didn't

943
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: raise Jane, correct. I mean they love Drew my dad,

944
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: but my dad has had this backlash against excessive Cowboy coverage,

945
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: I believe since the seventies. I think we we lead

946
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: by example here and I don't think we've overtalked the

947
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys this offseason much. Maybe we should ask instead of

948
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: trading for Earl Thomas, which a veteran receiver, do they

949
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: trade for at the end of August? You know he

950
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: would be good? Does Bryant it like a half might work?

951
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 1: Might work? Is it that crazy? Yes? It is? Why crazy?

952
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: Why can't we just they said they're not going to

953
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: and you could kind of see it in all or

954
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: nothing exactly the issues he created not to mention he

955
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: almost and I had forgotten that he had basically his

956
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 1: worst game of his career to give away their playoff

957
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: appearance against the Seahawks, where he washed their hands at

958
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: that moment. I'm just saying he turned he turned the

959
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: ball over to no because they didn't decide until May,

960
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: but he did turn the ball over twice and ruined

961
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: two drives in the game that ended their season. We

962
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: kind of encapsulated his experience. Feels over who's better right

963
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: now and that roster? I don't know. I guess they're

964
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 1: gonna go with the unknown, the unsolved mystery. People who

965
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: know far more football than me can look at tape

966
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: and tell you that he is not the player he

967
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: was five years ago and that he is no longer

968
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: worth what they were paying him. Well, the coaching stuff

969
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: felt that way two years right. I also think that

970
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: there's an addition by subtraction, not necessarily in productivity, but

971
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: they look. No one's calling da is a bad person.

972
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: I think what they're saying is it just got to

973
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: be too much. As much as Jason Garrett says all

974
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: the right things on the podium about we love his fire,

975
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: we love his enthusiasm, no one loves football more than Daz.

976
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: He's just kind of a pain to deal with. Prediction.

977
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Just say how it needs to be said. You know

978
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with him anymore. Week one,

979
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: starting wide receiver for the Cowboys. And I'm not saying

980
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: this this solves all their problems. Corey Coleman Baylor. Hey,

981
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: I saw Corey Coleman make a couple of nice catches

982
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: in the back of that were trying to I'm not

983
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: trying to him, but I like I I you ask

984
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: if he's a real pleasant guy in the locker room either,

985
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: Let's ask Mark's like working on his Jimmy haslum impression.

986
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: He's just gonna start calling Erry Joe directly. You're I

987
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 1: don't I like to see him work out? Actually, Baylor

988
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,760
Speaker 1: fans in the area, right, you're the you're the GM

989
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: of the Browns and the Cowboys ring you up third

990
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: round pick for Corey cole I don't think they'd get

991
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: a third well, I mean, she's probably yeah, I would,

992
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: But you're saying at the same time, like, I also, yeah,

993
00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: I think that maybe you give him one more year

994
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: and see if it works. Well, that's what the Browns

995
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: need more third round pick. Yeah, what's exactly what? What's

996
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: what's problem child? From Florida? What's this? The fourth ront

997
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: pick took what was was callaway? Yes right, Ernie, yeah right?

998
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: I his I think his selection says all you need

999
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: to know. Yeah, I thought you were talking about the

1000
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: little scene problem child. Let's see John Ritter number four.

1001
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: Probably I missed that one. By the way. For all

1002
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: the Sauciates, they drafted like five receivers two seasons ago,

1003
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: and none of them are a factor. Right, well, they

1004
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 1: couldn't catch or in the league. Um no, Chard Higgins

1005
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: is still there. I saw Richard Higgins. I don't know

1006
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: if i'd call him a factor. It's not a factor.

1007
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: But his name is Hollywood. Maybe they should tradehim o

1008
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: D of the Chargers or something. They could use a

1009
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: wide receiver that stays healthy. Um, Andrew, you said it all.

1010
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: You came here. It was a rain date. You made

1011
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: it up to Shaun Watson. Couldn't stop you this time.

1012
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: I talked too much. I just want to say that

1013
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: I made a conscious effort to not just know you

1014
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: were excellent. It was great. He wasn't the big horseshoe

1015
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: And the next and we'll see it was tomorrow because

1016
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: it's the big NFL talent media. Yes, the summit, whatever

1017
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: it is, you are, are you speaking at it? I

1018
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: sit in the back of the room and drink coffee

1019
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: and you know, trying to keep trying to keep my

1020
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: head dad. Last year, no, the last couple of years,

1021
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: I believe they've assigned seats for this step. So I

1022
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: was in the second row or the third row last

1023
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: year and it was difficult. They put hands us next

1024
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jeremiah. That was total. Last year Silver wouldn't

1025
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: shut up. Did you guys notice that year? And I

1026
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: have no problem saying to Mike Silver, I'm not talking,

1027
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm not podcasting behind his back. Last year, Silver was

1028
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: just bad, bad, bad, bad, Like to the point where

1029
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: everyone's looking at that one guy that's talking over the

1030
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: speakers and you just you felt awkward for the speakers, who,

1031
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: by the way, are the people that that sign our

1032
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: checks right management up there speaking and Silver, I'm just

1033
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: on and on and on and on and on. And

1034
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: if you can be the one who talks over a

1035
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: crowd of people who have worked their way up in

1036
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: a career, for your job is to be on television

1037
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: talking and possible and putting yourself in that position. You're

1038
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: a special guy. I have a loud voice. I recognize

1039
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: other loud voices and his was loud voice. Recognize his voice. Um,

1040
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: all right, next our next show, we will have a

1041
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: very special guest to talk a little World Cup soccer

1042
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: slash NFL football v football. That'll be fun. Very special guest.

1043
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: Mystery guest was Oh, yeah, he's one of my favorite people. Yes,

1044
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: this person is wonderful. Let's lean into it. Was big

1045
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: time mystery scenario. Also, most importantly, uh, Daveally will be

1046
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 1: in studio to Vegas moved it by the way, Vegas

1047
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: has moved it to two one shot of him being

1048
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: your best man. But Davially will be odd way back,

1049
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: but really will have a chance. Uh, and you have

1050
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 1: to keep an open mind. You're promising to keep an

1051
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: open mind. That guy's got some sounds like yeah, better

1052
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: be talking. I'm still taking that. Plus, yeah, he's got

1053
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: big pipes. Then he wears tight shirts. Well he does

1054
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: wear one of the Yeah on Thursday day, will make

1055
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: his pitch to be the best man in knowing the

1056
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: guest list and where the wedding is. That is also

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Speaker 1: his only chance probably to even be at the weddings. Right,

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Speaker 1: I'm still taking the plus three fifty that of him

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Speaker 1: not getting invited? Is this allowed? Now? That's all implay. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's all implay. Uh. And and if you are one

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Speaker 1: of our English listeners, congratulations and the big victory over Tunisia. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they would say, They would say Tunisia, Tunisia. And if

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Speaker 1: you're a Tunisian listener, well we apologie. If you can

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Speaker 1: narrowly get banged clear can narrowly defeat Tunisia. In the

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Speaker 1: ninety one minute they the World Cup titles are to use?

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Speaker 1: Are they had no shot? England had a much deeper roster, right,

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Speaker 1: what do we know to use proper Yeah? How much

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Speaker 1: proper soccer English? They would say England win? Right, that's

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Speaker 1: my favorite thing about soccer. God, I hate that. I

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Speaker 1: love it. It's better than acting like an It can

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Speaker 1: cogitate or can coctitraita and it does not think, so

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Speaker 1: don't stop using it. Save it for the IT podcast

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Speaker 1: was I'm looking forward to it. I feel like that

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Speaker 1: would be a good one. Oh, I would love to

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Speaker 1: heaven hip And they had to sign it off direct

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Speaker 1: the ringer throw the man Drew lost and Lindsey bolt

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Speaker 1: On behind the glass till Thursday,