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Speaker 3: Name, Granger Smith.

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Speaker 7: A job I could never do is be it radio

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Speaker 8: The questions you ask and the things you talk about God,

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Speaker 3: Y'all are horrible people. You're terrible, you really are. You're

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Speaker 7: You promote some of the most narrow minded crap on

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Speaker 2: longer part of the world. I chose you to come

437
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Speaker 2: out of the world, so it hates you.

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Speaker 4: That's where I was going to. But I'll go I'll

439
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Speaker 4: go somewhere different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hearing the word of Christ, it gets you a little,

441
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Speaker 1: a little choked up.

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Speaker 2: Done every time that and I'm sorry, like even just

443
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Speaker 2: just it does.

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Speaker 1: My mom too, Like if speaks out loud the words

445
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Speaker 1: of Jesus, if my mom speaks it out loud, she'll

446
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Speaker 1: cry every time.

447
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Speaker 2: I try to read out aloud every day, and even

448
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Speaker 2: reading out loud to myself, it like it just has

449
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Speaker 2: so much power.

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Speaker 1: So before you go and say it again the top

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Speaker 1: of John fifteen, verse eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Verse eighteen, If the world hates you, remember that it

453
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Speaker 2: hated me first. Amen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'll go to what you just said in

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Speaker 5: a second. I'll say what what I was thinking First,

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Speaker 5: I have two verses, So we're gonna go to Matthew ten,

457
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Speaker 5: verse twenty two. Matthew ten, verse twenty two, and you

458
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Speaker 5: will be hated by all because of my name. But

459
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Speaker 5: it is the one who has endured to the end

460
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Speaker 5: who will be saved. So as Granger said, it is

461
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Speaker 5: biblical that you will be persecuted two Timothy three twelve. Indeed,

462
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Speaker 5: all who desire to live a godly life in Christ

463
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Speaker 5: Jesus will be persecuted. All who desire to live a

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Speaker 5: godly life. But I think about like Granger said, it

465
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Speaker 5: is folly to those who are perishing. It is folly

466
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Speaker 5: when you are blinded, when the veil is over your eyes.

467
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Speaker 5: Because such were some of us, all of us before

468
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Speaker 5: the Lord opened our eyes. I used to think the

469
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Speaker 5: same thing when I had friends who were so I

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Speaker 5: would call it religious.

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Speaker 4: Back then, I didn't get it.

472
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Speaker 5: I didn't understand because my heart was hardened.

473
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Speaker 4: The veil was over my eyes.

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Speaker 5: So now having this new life that I cry when

475
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Speaker 5: I read the Word of God, it makes me want

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Speaker 5: to see those people and be like.

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Speaker 4: Can you not see?

478
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Speaker 5: But I have to remember that I was once dead

479
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Speaker 5: in my sins, and it's only by the power of

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Speaker 5: the Holy Spirit that I was made alive, that I

481
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Speaker 5: can see now. So I have to look at this

482
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Speaker 5: guy and we have to pray for him. Pray, Lord

483
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Speaker 5: open his eyes so that we can see and know

484
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Speaker 5: the power of your word. And it will bring you

485
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Speaker 5: to tears like it does you, because that's the.

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Speaker 2: Goal, right, is the revelation of my own sin?

487
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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Is the separation of me and God and the love

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Speaker 2: of a man who yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, who's yeah, who scorns the word of God.

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Speaker 2: Died for me? Yeah? Really? How can I not be?

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Speaker 1: Is it not such a revelation for us? Is it

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Speaker 1: not such its own defense of the gospel that here

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Speaker 1: we are, two thousand years later, after our Lord walked

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Speaker 1: walked with his cross, and people spit on him and

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Speaker 1: yelled at him and called him a fool and drove

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Speaker 1: nails into his hands and feet. Is it not such

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Speaker 1: a witness to that that two thousand years later, this

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Speaker 1: man just hears this and gets angry. He gets angry.

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Speaker 1: If I had talked about Buddha, he wouldn't say a

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Speaker 1: word issue. If I had talked about Mohammad, he would

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Speaker 1: have thoughts about it, but he wouldn't get angry. Romans

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Speaker 1: eight seven, Paul writes, for the mind that is set

504
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Speaker 1: on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does

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Speaker 1: not submit to God's law. Indeed it cannot that. That

506
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Speaker 1: is that that gives us no surprise that there's pushback,

507
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Speaker 1: because when a mind is set on the flesh and

508
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Speaker 1: not on the spirit, it's hostile to God. For the

509
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Speaker 1: verse right before that says for the for to set

510
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Speaker 1: the mind on the flesh is death, but to set

511
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Speaker 1: the mind on the spirit is life and peace. So

512
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Speaker 1: it's no surprise that we feel from this man anger,

513
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Speaker 1: which is just very strange. If I think about it,

514
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Speaker 1: if you were unbiased in this world somehow, like if

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Speaker 1: you're another from another planet and you came and looked

516
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Speaker 1: at this, you'd be like, here's a radio host that's

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Speaker 1: speaking of hope that's within him, and peace and rest

518
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Speaker 1: that he has in a belief system that he believes.

519
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Speaker 1: Whether it's real or not, he believes it. How could

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Speaker 1: you listen to that and get angry? Well, it would

521
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Speaker 1: only be because your mind is hostile to the ways

522
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Speaker 1: of God.

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Speaker 2: That's that.

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Speaker 1: And we have to say almost every time we have

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Speaker 1: to have to stop and go as was I one day,

526
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Speaker 1: as was I before, as was I. Oh God, if

527
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Speaker 1: it wasn't for your mercy, if it wasn't for your

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Speaker 1: saving grace, that through Christ would be like this man. Lord,

529
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Speaker 1: would you save this man? Would you open his eyes?

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Speaker 1: Maybe through the radio show, maybe through someone else, maybe

531
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Speaker 1: the seed is planted. Lord, would you save him so

532
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Speaker 1: we could have peace and he could stop being hostile

533
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Speaker 1: to his own maker, the one that knitted him together

534
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Speaker 1: in his mother's womb.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that hostility and hate you hear in his voice,

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Speaker 2: I believe is the defense mechanism of sin. Yeah, it's

537
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Speaker 2: defending sin for now until it's broken through and it

538
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Speaker 2: just needs a crack. And the crack could be the

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Speaker 2: song or the or the break that plays before the song,

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Speaker 2: or the topic that we're talking about. One of those

541
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Speaker 2: is going to crack that barrier of hate with him.

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Speaker 1: There is a belief what you're saying is, and I

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Speaker 1: know this from experience, through people that I've dealt with

544
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Speaker 1: like this, there is a sin in his life that

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Speaker 1: he cannot let go that a Christian worldview says is wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: It's as simple as that, living a lifestyle, doing something

548
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Speaker 1: that that he has heard the Christian worldview is against

549
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Speaker 1: and that to him is hostile to him.

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Speaker 2: Even though you may not, I mean you just you know,

551
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Speaker 2: we talked about what you're not prosthetizing on afterbidden Now

552
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Speaker 2: I'm not really show but something in that ruffle the

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Speaker 2: feathers of that sin.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was interesting that he said it's so narrow

555
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Speaker 5: minded when our belief system in Christianity is is God

556
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Speaker 5: welcoming everyone who turns from their sin and turns to

557
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Speaker 5: the Lord. There's no there's no bias, there's no skin color,

558
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Speaker 5: there's no socioeconomic status, there's nothing that can keep you

559
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Speaker 5: away from the love of God. If you turn from

560
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Speaker 5: your sin and come, it is the most welcoming that

561
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Speaker 5: there is. That he says it's so narrow minded.

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Speaker 1: Narrow minded is to listen to a radio host and

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Speaker 1: say your view is wrong. An open minded way would

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Speaker 1: be like, that's his view, that does bother me, Let

565
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Speaker 1: him do him. But it all comes down to sin.

566
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Speaker 1: There is a conviction inside him that he's convicted by sin.

567
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Speaker 1: It's confronting him in his own spirit. And although he

568
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Speaker 1: wouldn't say it that way, that's that's what it comes

569
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Speaker 1: down to, is he has a sin that he is,

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Speaker 1: that he loves, and it is his idol, it is

571
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Speaker 1: his identity. I don't know what it is, but all

572
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Speaker 1: of us know because we've all shared in something like this.

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Speaker 1: None of us are indifferent to this. We go, oh, yeah,

574
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Speaker 1: there was a sin of the flesh that I once

575
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Speaker 1: held onto. And the Bible says, turn away, repent, turn

576
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Speaker 1: away from it, and turn to me and be saved.

577
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Speaker 1: And that message is folly to some people that are

578
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Speaker 1: coveting that sin, and their eyes are are darkened and

579
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Speaker 1: they go, no, no, all you people are you know,

580
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Speaker 1: your biggots, you narrow minded biggots promoting this ignorant crap.

581
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Speaker 2: You know.

582
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Speaker 1: That's that's what they say.

583
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Folly. Also foolishness. Yeah, some versions say foolishness and that

584
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Speaker 2: it is foolish that a guy claims to be God

585
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Speaker 2: and doesn't rise to power, he instead gets killed. Who

586
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 2: has hope in that? But he came back and that

587
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: is that's the that's the difference maker between him and

588
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Buddha and Mohammad and any other guy that you want

589
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Speaker 2: to put in that place. He did this for you

590
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Speaker 2: and me, and he came back just like he said

591
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Speaker 2: he would.

592
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Speaker 4: And he's coming back again again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, there's uh And I've brought this

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Speaker 2: up before on some other topic we were talking about

595
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Speaker 2: that was similar. But we there's Pen and Teller, who

596
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: are the magicians. Yeah, one of them doesn't talk tell her.

597
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Speaker 2: Penn does and has been very vocal about his he is.

598
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Speaker 2: He's not a believer, in fact, he's not agnostic, but atheist,

599
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Speaker 2: thank you. He's an atheist. And he even he puts

600
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Speaker 2: that like he even talks about it in his in

601
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Speaker 2: his show. And he recounted a story of a guy

602
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: who and after the shows, they'll go out those sign autographs,

603
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Speaker 2: and sometimes they'll give props from the show to crowd

604
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Speaker 2: members and what have you. And this guy came up

605
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Speaker 2: and was holding some props from one of the particular

606
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Speaker 2: illusions that he had received from them, that he'd gotten

607
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Speaker 2: from the night before, and he goes he waited patiently,

608
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Speaker 2: and he stood to the side, and I noticed him,

609
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Speaker 2: and he came up and he showed me what he

610
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Speaker 2: had received. He very complimentary of the show, complimentary of them,

611
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Speaker 2: and he said, he handed me a a Gideon Bible,

612
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: but it's just where it's like Psalms. And then the

613
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Speaker 2: new to in the Gospels. Yeah, so just one of those.

614
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Speaker 2: And he handed it to me, and he goes, I

615
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Speaker 2: wrote a note in the front of it that I'd

616
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Speaker 2: like for you, but I want you to have this,

617
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Speaker 2: and he said, he looked me in the eye and

618
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: he was kind. I'm not a believer, and he knows it.

619
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Speaker 2: And I have no respect for anyone who believes that

620
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: there is a heaven and a hell and there's an

621
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Speaker 2: eternity spent somewhere, and you don't tell somebody who doesn't

622
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Speaker 2: believe about it if you know it. He even gave

623
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Speaker 2: a comparison. He goes, I can you may not believe

624
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: that a truck is coming at you, but I'm telling

625
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Speaker 2: you that a truck is coming at you. There will

626
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Speaker 2: be at some point I tackle you. And that guy

627
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Speaker 2: did with his gift that day. He was kind, he

628
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: was generous, and I knew that he believed it. He goes,

629
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Speaker 2: He told me, I'm a businessman and I have all

630
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Speaker 2: my faculties. I'm not a wacko, and I want to

631
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Speaker 2: share this with you. And he has all the respect

632
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: in the world for him, and I don't have it

633
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Speaker 2: for anybody else as a believer that will not witness

634
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Speaker 2: and proselytize to somebody they know that.

635
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Speaker 1: Is that is so convicting, very much. So, yeah, I

636
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: know that Bible. It's green, it's yes, absolutely, I've had

637
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Speaker 1: one in my whole life, when I was a baby,

638
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: if someoney gave it to me. It's actually right in here.

639
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: It's got the psalms in the in the New Testament.

640
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, how much would you have to hate someone?

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Speaker 2: That's what he says, Yes, that's right to.

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Speaker 1: Not share that if I if I, if the Lord

643
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Speaker 1: has done such a work in my life and so

644
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Speaker 1: many around me, and I had a public platform, how

645
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: much would I have to hate you, mister caller, to

646
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Speaker 1: not share the hope that is in me? And I understand,

647
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Speaker 1: I understand boundaries of you know, I don't want to.

648
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to overstep a platform that's been given

649
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: to me by the Lord. I don't want to squander

650
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: it by by doing silly things, you know, like talking

651
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Speaker 1: about things that you know over and over that don't

652
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Speaker 1: that shouldn't be talked about. But if I'm going to

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Speaker 1: shut up and be silent for every show and not

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Speaker 1: tell you about the hope, the joy that is in me,

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Speaker 1: in some way if I can't articulate that, articulate that

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Speaker 1: in some way, for instance, coming up with a new

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Speaker 1: topic and thinking in my mind. I for instance, we

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Speaker 1: had a topic, our latest topic that said what do

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Speaker 1: you do to lift your mood? That was a topic,

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Speaker 1: and everyone's calling, like, I call my grandson, I'd like

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Speaker 1: to take a drive and listen to George Strade. I

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Speaker 1: like to throw the frisbee with my dogs. And I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing this and going, yeah, great, all that's all great.

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Speaker 1: Those are all great moodlifters. In the very end, I

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, what's something I like to do.

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Speaker 1: I like to read the Bible, and I got I

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Speaker 1: like to go to some place like Jeremiah seventeen, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I read like four or five verses. I didn't ply.

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Speaker 1: That's not proselytizing. That's just saying, you know what I

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Speaker 1: do to lift my mood. Go to Jeremia seventeen and

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Speaker 1: I read I read something out of there. And if

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Speaker 1: that is seen to anyone it's wrong, then that's that's

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Speaker 1: sign of the times. Let me let me actually show

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Speaker 1: you which.

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Speaker 5: Is so interesting because all of those other things would

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Speaker 5: be accepted because you said.

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Speaker 1: Something about what if I said I meditate. I'm Buddhists,

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Speaker 1: and I like to empty my mind and have a

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Speaker 1: moment of zen, and I do sixty seconds of zen, right,

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Speaker 1: and I focus on my breathing. No one would go,

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Speaker 1: you stop this Buddhist crap this it would you stop

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Speaker 1: talking about No one says that. But here's what I said.

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Speaker 1: I said. I said, I like to go to dre seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and I say, I read blessed is the man who

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Speaker 1: trust in the Lord. Whose trust is the Lord. He's

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Speaker 1: like a tree planted by water that sends out its

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Speaker 1: roots by the stream and does not fear when heat comes,

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Speaker 1: for its leaves remain green, and it's not anxious in

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Speaker 1: the year of drought, for it does not cease to

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Speaker 1: bear fruit. That's how I lift my mood.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, I've heard people say I wish

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Speaker 5: people would stop shoving Jesus down my throat, And it's like,

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Speaker 5: we're not trying to shove Jesus down your throat. But

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Speaker 5: if you only knew, if you only knew, oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: if you only knew what he did for you and

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Speaker 5: how much he loves you, that's what we want.

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Speaker 4: You to know.

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Speaker 1: So to that amber. Let's talk about hope, because we've

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Speaker 1: explained why where this comes from. But here's the hope

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Speaker 1: and Corinthians for starting verse six. For God who said

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Speaker 1: let light shine out of darkness, has shown in our

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Speaker 1: hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the

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Speaker 1: glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. So

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Speaker 1: God can turn the darkest heart, the hardest heart. God

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Speaker 1: could shine his light and break through it. He does it,

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Speaker 1: did it with me, He did it was with countless

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Speaker 1: people throughout the Bible as we read it. And that

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Speaker 1: is the hope we have. That's the hope we have

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Speaker 1: for this this caller, and that's why that's why it's

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Speaker 1: worth it. He said at the very end, I hope

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Speaker 1: her show's canceled. And you know what it may be

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Speaker 1: one day because right now conservative culture of our agricultural farming,

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Speaker 1: call it republican, call it conservative, call it whatever you want.

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Speaker 1: I'm not into promoting that, But what I am saying

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Speaker 1: is that's that is aligned itself with Christianity right now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and that just that happens to be my people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I live in the country. I am a

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Speaker 1: former country singer, failed former country singer, as he said.

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Speaker 1: So those are my people, and right now my people

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Speaker 1: are aligned with my God. But that doesn't always happen.

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Speaker 1: They will become misaligned again. And when I'm misaligned and

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Speaker 1: and I'm not making money for the I'm not making

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Speaker 1: an advertiser money for the big conglomerates, whom I love

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Speaker 1: because they have given me a job right now through

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Speaker 1: the Lord. But when that doesn't work anymore, they'll cancel me.

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Speaker 1: So here's the question. When that happens, When that day happens,

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Speaker 1: if it does, If it does, would it have been

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Speaker 1: worth it for this man to hear the gospel?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Would it be worth it to see this man in

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Speaker 1: heaven one day?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: And he goes you. It was you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember, but I called into

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Speaker 2: your radio show.

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Speaker 1: It was you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I heard about Jesus one night working at the warehouse

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Speaker 1: stocking shelves, and I was so sick of it, and

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Speaker 1: I was so tired of hearing about your hope and

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Speaker 1: your peace and your God. And I couldn't stop wrestling

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Speaker 1: with it. I couldn't stop thinking about it. And finally,

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Speaker 1: one day I just wanted to prove you wrong. I

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Speaker 1: picked up one of your beloved Bibles. And then I

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Speaker 1: started to read and I learned that he was my

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Speaker 1: savior too. He was you would it be worth it

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Speaker 1: to get canceled? Amen, cancel me for one for one person.

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Speaker 1: It's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed.

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Speaker 1: I love that he called it.

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Speaker 4: Did he say his name?

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Speaker 1: No, he didn't say his name.

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Speaker 4: Well, everybody listening, just pray for this man.

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Speaker 2: If you want it, I can get it for you.

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Speaker 2: It's on the color ide.

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Speaker 1: A couple more thoughts here, Romans one sixteen. This is

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Speaker 1: the natural law and man understanding. All man is is

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Speaker 1: we are all guilty because God has made himself known

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Speaker 1: to us through creation, through everything. So if we deny him,

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Speaker 1: we are suppressing truth. It's not that we don't know,

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Speaker 1: it's not that He hasn't provided enough information for us.

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Speaker 1: It's because we have suppressed what is already true. Romans

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Speaker 1: one sixteen. For I am not ashamed of the Gospel,

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Speaker 1: Paul says, For it is the power of God for

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Speaker 1: salvation to everyone who believes, so we should. Jesus says

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Speaker 1: it like this in Luke nine. For whoever is ashamed

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Speaker 1: of me and of my words, Paul says.

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Speaker 7: Not me.

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Speaker 1: Paul says I'm not ashamed, in response to Jesus saying,

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Speaker 1: for whoever is ashamed of me in my words of him,

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Speaker 1: will the son of Man be ashamed when he comes

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Speaker 1: in his glory and the glory of the Father and

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Speaker 1: of the Holy angels.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be on that side. Here's another thing,

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Speaker 1: Paul says, and and this is this, This is when

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Speaker 1: we when when the ship goes down, if we go

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Speaker 1: down with being canceled, and Lord willing, Lord willing, we

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Speaker 1: won't be. But we might. But that's not Our goal

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Speaker 1: is to Our goal is to no our What our

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Speaker 1: goal is not is to try to not be canceled, right, correct?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that. Our goal is

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Speaker 1: not to try to not be canceled. Our goal is

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Speaker 1: to be faithful, as as faithful stewarts, as jars of clay,

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Speaker 1: with a message greater than we could possibly even grasp.

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Speaker 1: And Paul says to this, Christ will be honored in

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Speaker 1: my body, whether by life or by death. For to

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Speaker 1: me to live as Christ and to die is gain.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm no apostle, Paul, but I want to emulate that.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, on my deathbed, how did you

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Speaker 1: do grangeer when grandkids come around, how did grandpa do?

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Speaker 1: I will say, Christ will be. Christ was honored in

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Speaker 1: my body, my whole life, by a life or by death.

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Speaker 1: So well, let's go to first Peter. Three.

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 1: The the apologetic verse of the Bible. When when Peter

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Speaker 1: says to make a defense, that word a polygia in

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Speaker 1: the Greek means to to make a military defense. That's

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Speaker 1: where really where that word comes from. And this is

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Speaker 1: what he says. In your hearts. Peter says, honor Christ,

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Speaker 1: the Lord is Holy, always, always being prepared to make

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Speaker 1: a defense to anyone who asked you for a reason,

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Speaker 1: for the hope that is in you. Yet do it

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Speaker 1: with gentleness and respect, having a good conscience, so that

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Speaker 1: when you are slandered, those who revile your good behavior

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Speaker 1: in Christ may.

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Speaker 2: Be put to shame, and not if you are slandered. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you.

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Speaker 1: Are so gentleness, respect, love, a true heart for the lost,

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Speaker 1: and always ready to make that defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 2: The last thing Jesus told us a mark before he left,

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Speaker 2: before we send it into heaven to all the world.

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Speaker 3: Go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, let me just say I am just I'm

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Speaker 1: so I'm so grateful thank the Lord for you every

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Speaker 1: day that we work together in a secular space, because

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Speaker 1: you have my back and I have year back, and

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Speaker 1: you brought this call to me. You could have if

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Speaker 1: you were of the world, if you're of the flesh,

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Speaker 1: you would have done exactly what a man of the

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Speaker 1: flesh thought you were going to do. Delete it, not

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Speaker 1: bring it to me, because you're not a man of

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Speaker 1: the flesh. You're a man of the spirit of God.

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Speaker 1: You thought differently than the man of the flesh thought

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Speaker 1: a man of the flesh would do, and you brought

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Speaker 1: it to me, and you said, this encouraged me. I

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Speaker 1: think it might encourage you. And I said, let's put

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Speaker 1: it on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well I'm feelings mutual because there's not I

833
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Speaker 2: was out. I was out a radio, done, moved on

834
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Speaker 2: and glad for it. It was great for me and

835
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Speaker 2: my family for so long. But emotionally and spiritually, I

836
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Speaker 2: was done with the radio. It was in my rear

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Speaker 2: view mirror. And then you get a call and we're

838
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Speaker 2: working together on EE radio and some it's just like

839
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Speaker 2: some just makes sense here And yeah, I'm very thankful too.

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be doing this without you.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna sit over here and cry while you guys,

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Speaker 4: well we.

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Speaker 1: Broke out of it.

844
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Speaker 2: We brow out meet right here for a hug.

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Speaker 5: And because I know all the backstory, and a lot

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Speaker 5: of people listening know all the backstory of of everything,

847
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Speaker 5: and it's just really really neat to see how God

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Speaker 5: works through everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Lord, we pray for this man that he

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Speaker 1: would be saved, would hear the gospel, and then he

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Speaker 1: would he would buy the power of the gospel, that

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Speaker 1: he would be safe, convicted of a sin and turn

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Speaker 1: to you, and then we would see him one day

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Speaker 1: in eternity.

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Speaker 2: And until he does, I hope he's annoyed every night.

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Speaker 1: Just a pebble in his shoe without taking that shoe

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Speaker 1: off him, fixing that pebble, and there we are again.

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Speaker 4: And then I hope he calls back, he goes.

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Speaker 1: So you go call every day, buddy, if you can

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Speaker 1: get his number in his name, maybe I'll start talking

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Speaker 1: to him. Maybe I'll just answer one day.

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: I know this is a record and.

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Speaker 2: Trying to get a hold of you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, cool. Appreciate you, appreciate you, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Will you be back on before your book releases. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: you're the boss, No boss, all right, Love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for hanging out with me on

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Speaker 1: this episode of the granger Smith Podcast. I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: being here. If you're listening right now, go ahead and

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