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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show. It's Texans All Access Players. Addition,

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Speaker 1: and end has the week off. We have Tim Settle

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Speaker 1: coming up on the show tonight. Johnny and I visited

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Speaker 1: with him. But we've got news today. We got to

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Speaker 1: get to some things, so we're going to stretch out

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Speaker 1: and give it to you here. As Stefan Diggs you

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Speaker 1: heard earlier today out for the season. Some other things

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Speaker 1: going on that are relevant to the Texans as well,

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Speaker 1: so we'll get to it all. Johnny, Good evening. That's

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Speaker 1: really sad news about Diggs, who I thought fitting great

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Speaker 1: with this team. It's really too bad. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a big blow, not one they can't overcome, but it's

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Speaker 1: certainly significant for this passing attack, especially with Thursday night

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Speaker 1: coming up. Already, no Nico for at least one more

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Speaker 1: game because he's on IR and you have no Digs,

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Speaker 1: so we know what you're going to battle with.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that, Good Evening. It's the damn Jets. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the damn Jets. It's the Jets curse. You think

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Speaker 2: about it. The week before we've played in the Jets

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Speaker 2: two years in a row. We've lost a receiver for

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Speaker 2: the season. Last year, we lost Tank Dell to a

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Speaker 2: broken leg against the Broncos, then went to New York.

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Speaker 2: Now we've lost to Von Diggs to an acl and

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Speaker 2: we'll go to New York.

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Speaker 1: I ain't playing up in met life anymore. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: can we just get through the game without any more injury?

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Speaker 2: Well that's the thing. So when we went into that

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Speaker 2: game last year, we didn't have tank Nico then got

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Speaker 2: hurt early two plays in Geez, so you had you

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Speaker 2: had to play basically whatever you had left in the roster.

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Speaker 2: If I remember right, I don't think Robert Woods played

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Speaker 2: that game either, So you were trying to sustain with

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Speaker 2: whatever you had, and Rainy Cold Day just wan work.

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Speaker 1: You didn't exactly have a traveling running game, right, That's

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Speaker 1: and that order was playing by then. He was playing well,

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Speaker 1: but you didn't have Joe mix It. You have Joe

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Speaker 1: mixin now, who can do some damage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right. My point in that is, look,

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Speaker 2: you still have Tank Dell. That's that's good because in

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Speaker 2: that game you didn't have Tank Ornico, and you definitely

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Speaker 2: have Digs at that point because he's a bill, So

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Speaker 2: you really didn't have But You've at least got one

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Speaker 2: of your big three guys going into this game, and

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Speaker 2: the thought is you'll get Nico back for the Detroit game,

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Speaker 2: so you'll have Tank and I think what we've seen

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Speaker 2: in Dimko talked about this is a press conference that

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Speaker 2: John Metchi and Xavier Hutchinson have really taken strides yea

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Speaker 2: or either one of them. Stephan Diggs no, but can

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Speaker 2: they make some plays. I think to me, that's the

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Speaker 2: whole key to the game. And it's not because Digs

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Speaker 2: isn't playing. I would have said this if Steph was playing.

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Speaker 2: In fact, wrote about this and know your foe. It's

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Speaker 2: the fact that you have to answer the Jets physical

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Speaker 2: for physical At the wide receiver position. You can't mess

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Speaker 2: around like last year with Sauce and DJ Reid and

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Speaker 2: Michael Carter. They just beat the receivers up. They can't

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Speaker 2: allow that to happen. They've got to play as violently

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Speaker 2: as they're getting played against. They've got to be violent

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Speaker 2: with everything they do. Hands on them, chop them off,

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Speaker 2: ball to them, snatch it, tuck it in, be strong

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Speaker 2: and tough each and every one of those times, and

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Speaker 2: you'll put some pressure on those Jets defensive backs. But

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that it's

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Speaker 2: not a blow. It's definitely a blow to this offense

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Speaker 2: to lose Steph. I mean, he was a big part

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Speaker 2: first game, he catches a couple of touchdowns, he has

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Speaker 2: the run for a touchdown. It was that Jaguars or Bills,

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Speaker 2: was Jaguars game. And so he's just done a little

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Speaker 2: bit of everything. But also I think his his leadership

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Speaker 2: to fill that void offensively. So yeah, it's gonna definitely

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Speaker 2: be a blow, There's no question about it. But you

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Speaker 2: can't go crying in your lattes. We got to go

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Speaker 2: up to New York and Okay, this is what we got,

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Speaker 2: this is what we have. This is your chop basket

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Speaker 2: this week. What's in the chop basket. Well, you got

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Speaker 2: a couple of basically second year receivers. You got mister

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Speaker 2: reliable Robert Woods, you got Tanked del and you got

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Speaker 2: Joe mixing the running game. Now you think about what

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Speaker 2: job basket is like, you know, a bag of peanuts

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Speaker 2: compared this one, you can do a lot with. It's

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Speaker 2: just that group is gonna have to step its play

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Speaker 1: All right, So Mehchi had a good game last time out.

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Speaker 1: He came into the game with one catch. You know,

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Speaker 1: he ends up with what three or four in this game.

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Speaker 1: So I'm eager to see what his next chapter is,

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Speaker 1: especially with Digs out. I'm not saying Mechi replaces digs either,

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Speaker 1: he wants to be one of those guys who contributes

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Speaker 1: really well on a weekly basis. So maybe he can

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Speaker 1: do that. They will have Robert and what you said

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Speaker 1: about Tank notable because last year Rookie Surprise, Rookie Mini Sensation,

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Speaker 1: Tank Dell. You know, he has some amazing moments. We

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Speaker 1: all saw them. Now it's time to do it on

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Speaker 1: a consistent basis. Now you're the guy, I mean, he's

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Speaker 1: going to go in there the yep, who's the number

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Speaker 1: one Tanked out going into that game.

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Speaker 2: Now, he might not.

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Speaker 1: End up first in catches, but he's an option to

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Speaker 1: make explosive plays, and he's the number one receiving option

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Speaker 1: to make explosive plays. By the way, Diggs finishes up

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Speaker 1: seventh in the league as the moment he stops after

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Speaker 1: Week eight or during Week eight, seventh in the league

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Speaker 1: in receptions. Nico is still ninth in the league in

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Speaker 1: receiving yards. I mean, you need Nico back Thursday, but

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Speaker 1: you can't do it. So we'll see what happens after that.

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Speaker 1: We'll cross that bridge when we get there. You're playing

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Schultz catching the ball a lot lately.

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Speaker 1: The tight ends figuring into the running game, so you

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Speaker 1: as a receiving thread. Good call has to be exploited

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Speaker 1: here because Mixon. I feel like I had four catches

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Speaker 1: I like that he had six targets. I like that number,

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Speaker 1: maybe even more through the air to Joe Mixon. Mixing

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Speaker 1: pass protect sometimes whatever did you see what the Giants

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Speaker 1: it's almost like a screen, except he's just going up

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Speaker 1: He's gonna go. They just leaked the back out. Whoop,

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Speaker 1: just go over his head. They did it numerous times

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Speaker 1: end of the game. They got to be creative, find

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Speaker 2: Nico gets back. A couple things. Number one, last year,

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Speaker 2: we had this one scoring drive. Do you remember on

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Speaker 1: It was didn't CJ have a big play to Noah Brown?

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Speaker 2: Or who was it? Andrew Beck? Andrew Beck? Okay, Grevin

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Speaker 2: I believe. Also, so keep that in mind. Also, what

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Speaker 2: football team right now? Linebacker and safety? Okay, and who's

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Speaker 1: My Jets prep. I mean, I'm squeezing the whole week,

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Speaker 1: indo a few days. He of course, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to be done. I'm not gonna be able to comment

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Speaker 1: on them in total until Wednesday night. Well, you don't

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Speaker 1: need to, but I've looked. I've observed one thing about them.

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Speaker 1: You ready for this? This is the analogy, you know.

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Speaker 1: I like to make music analogies. Yeah, the Jets are

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Speaker 1: who can still sing the songs, but they don't sound good.

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this to a Jet fan. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's Bruce Springsteen because he was Springsteen. However, if you

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Speaker 1: see Springsteen now, and I just heard Springsteen interviewed by

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Speaker 1: Howard Stern and he was singing some songs, and trust me,

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Speaker 1: it's not there anymore.

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Speaker 4: It's bad.

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Speaker 1: And Rogers. I'm not seeing Rodgers as bad. But Rogers

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Speaker 1: is not Rogers. Whatever he is, we can describe him

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Speaker 1: a variety of ways. He's not who he was. That

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Speaker 1: is clear to me. And you get physical with him,

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Speaker 1: you get bodies on him. He's not Anthony Richardson. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna escape the same way. He could make some plays.

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Speaker 1: He could sing the songs, but they're not gonna sound

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Speaker 1: as good. Wait, did you see Anthony Richardson. You mean

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Speaker 1: the Colts backup quarterback. Yeah, the new Cults back up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the new Colt sexy backup for the Indianapolis Cults. This

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Speaker 1: affects the Texans too, because look, what is the thinking

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Speaker 1: here in Indie that we can contend. Look, they're right

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Speaker 1: on the edge of a playoff wild card possibility. Flatto,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we didn't see Flacco this past weekend other

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Speaker 1: going into the game facing Flacco, I'm not scared. But

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Speaker 1: I'd rather see Richardson the Flacco there with me on this.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I think. Yeah, I'd rather see Richardson in

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Speaker 2: the Flacca. Here's what I think. Okay, with the Colts

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Speaker 2: as it pertains to them, And by the way, I

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Speaker 2: watched Rogers and I know it's it's not the same,

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Speaker 2: but like a lead singer, when that lead singer wants

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Speaker 2: to find those notes, needs to find like those notes.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good song and you're gonna enjoy it. Well,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna enjoy Rogers still has some of those The

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Speaker 2: touchdown thrower he threw to Conklin last week, Holy cow, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean zip, I mean to a spouse to run like.

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Speaker 2: He still he still has those moments. It's just not

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Speaker 2: as plentiful. So the Colts, I think all this hubbub

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Speaker 2: about the tap out is legitimate, and I think the

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Speaker 2: lase fair way in which he discussed it after I

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Speaker 2: told you I read it. I read the note and

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Speaker 2: I'm reading the notes after the game, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this is not good. Not just the tap out. Oh

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Speaker 2: I was tired. Not not just that, but the way

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Speaker 2: that he talked about the interception, the way that he's

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Speaker 2: talked about himself playing quarterback. It was like he was

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Speaker 2: just he was describing somebody else. Yeah, And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: this is are.

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Speaker 1: You saying you are like Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Like wait, this just doesn't this doesn't compute.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 2: For the I know Chris ballad for a long time,

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Speaker 2: there are a few things that Chris is not going

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Speaker 2: to put up with even though this is man, this

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Speaker 2: was the guy was supposed to be the future. That's

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Speaker 2: one of them. That's one of them, Like you're tapping

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Speaker 6: been putting out there.

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00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: I've been I don't let them know I support them

431
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:14,679
Speaker 3: all the way out here in Houston.

432
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: Well, you know their quarterback is from just out that

433
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: way a little bit. Karen Drums, You've been doing some

434
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,200
Speaker 2: good things so have I'm trying to think, are there

435
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: any teammates of teams that Virginia Tech will play? So

436
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: do you have any bets going on with any of

437
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 2: the guys?

438
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,159
Speaker 6: I had friend had a friendly wager with Shock. We

439
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 6: played trusguer Tech this week. Uh, we got the best

440
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 6: of them, but they had a good dug Tech has

441
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 6: a good team. That was a team that gave us

442
00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 6: struggles when I was in college. You know, they still

443
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 6: was running the options stuff, and you know, every year,

444
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 6: I feel like I was probably my hardest game. It

445
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 6: was my best game because you know they're you know

446
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 6: they're going to run the ball, but you gotta you know.

447
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 3: They're gonna take shots. You gotta know when they take shots. Uh.

448
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 6: But other than that, no, I haven't had any other

449
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 6: friendly wages with anybody else.

450
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,359
Speaker 2: So, uh so seats gonna be wearing some some Hokies gear.

451
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 3: Nah, No, I didn't get that. Yeah. If not, if

452
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 3: it's somebody that's on u v A.

453
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so I can't say where I got my

454
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,880
Speaker 2: masters from then, right, I can't say that he did

455
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: look u v A.

456
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, academics is a top tier.

457
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 6: That was the school I had in hot consideration, especially

458
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 6: being that was the closest school to me.

459
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

460
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: Now listen, I mean the uv A, it's it's my

461
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: where I got my masters. But it's not my it's

462
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 2: not my team. So I like coach Beemer. You know,

463
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: there was a coach coach at Virginia Tech for a

464
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:39,959
Speaker 2: long time. It's a while back.

465
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,719
Speaker 3: His name was Wiles Charlie.

466
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, his brother was coaching in high school. I coached

467
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 2: against his brother. So that's so we used to always

468
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 2: talk about Virginia Tech. And because Charlie was at at

469
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: Virginia Tech at the time, and so we used to

470
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 2: always kind of talk about that about Virginia Tech. And

471
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,439
Speaker 2: at that time, Mike was there, vic was there at

472
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: that time, so Virginia Tech was the hottest thing. So yeah,

473
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: it definitely up. They've definitely got it back going again.

474
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: I think with APR off the edge, they've they've got

475
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: some things rolling. That running back is good.

476
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's downhill guy, you know, he gets downhill.

477
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 6: I just like that they have faith in they get

478
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 6: on the ball, and he just gets downhill, you know,

479
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 6: and a lot of I feel like drones make it

480
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 6: easy because you know, you got a mobile quarterback, you

481
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 6: also can throw. So I definitely like seeing how coach

482
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 6: Pie brought a different kind of style to Virginia Tech,

483
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 6: spreading the fill out and once he spread the field out,

484
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 6: still being able to run the ball. That's what it's

485
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 6: about being two dimensionals, especially college.

486
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 3: You know, college is more explosive plays.

487
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 6: You know, you got more for more spread off formations,

488
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 6: and you know, just just seeing them, just seeing how

489
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 6: they're able to operate offensively and defensively have been just

490
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 6: something to watch this year, all.

491
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: Right, speaking of explosive plays. And by the way, this

492
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,160
Speaker 1: concludes hokey hotlines so far with Tim Settle. But Tim,

493
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 1: you guys are trying to prevent them against the Colts,

494
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: and you got to after the quarterback Anthony Richardson, how

495
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 1: hard is it to get.

496
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: Him down ground?

497
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean the sack you had, he still was able

498
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: to get rid of the football and he was down.

499
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: But such strength on that quarter.

500
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's a d N to me, he like a

501
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 6: DN or. He definitely could fit into the tight ends

502
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 6: in somewhere. I think he'll be an elite tight end.

503
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 6: But you know, his body his body type similar to

504
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 6: Cam Newton, but I think he's probably stronger than Cam,

505
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 6: you know, a stronger, uh just naturally like bigger, you know, definitely.

506
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 6: I feel like he's going to get into his NFL

507
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 6: where he's still young in the league, but he's a

508
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 6: big He's a big kid for sure.

509
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: You go from the opposite of a twenty two year

510
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: old or whatever Anthony is, so now you're facing a

511
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: forty year old, a forty one year old and Aaron Rodgers.

512
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: Savvy vet, Yeah, very savvy. I was asking Nick and

513
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: Serry about this, tim Like, when you face a savvy

514
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 2: vet like that, he's got the tricks to the trade,

515
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 2: he's gonna play with the cadence and things like that

516
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: against you guys. Let you guys not get the good

517
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: get off when you play kind of a savvy vet

518
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 2: like that. How rare are you guys of those sort

519
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 2: of things? You know it's Kate, you know, maybe trying

520
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: to change the tempo of things. I'ware you guys of

521
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 2: that up front?

522
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 6: Who knows, Like it's just like we played Green Bay

523
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago, and you know, same system,

524
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 6: saying coaches that he came from and they kind of

525
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 6: get and that's his philosophy.

526
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: I think it's just the thing.

527
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 4: Uh.

528
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 6: He wants to slow the game down. He wants to

529
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 6: see where the booz is coming from. He wants to

530
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 6: slow the d line down. He wants to kind of

531
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 6: like it's it's a mind game with them. He wants

532
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 6: you want to try to get you all size, make

533
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 6: late substitutions, trying to get you get a.

534
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: Twelve men on the field. It's all of my game,

535
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 3: you know.

536
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 6: But I feel like if we could eliminate that, it

537
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 6: kind of messages their their game.

538
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: You know, they're they're playing checkers. We're gonna go play chess.

539
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 4: You know.

540
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: That's that's what it is. That's all its way putting.

541
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: It the next man up mentality. Had some injuries recently,

542
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: especially a linebacker behind you, But you got Jake stepping up,

543
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: you got Neville stepping up, you got Devin White, a

544
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: new guy. What about all that mixing all that together

545
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: and now you get a short week hopefully gets some

546
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: guys back. But all of that going into trying to

547
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: keep the momentum going here.

548
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean like we're we're a tight team.

549
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 6: You know, it's and I feel like it's a next

550
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 6: next player mentality team, and you know, coach makes it simple.

551
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,160
Speaker 6: You know, like if you're gonna play and you're gonna

552
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 6: perform at a high level, you gotta work hard. And

553
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 6: you know, I feel like that that's where it starts.

554
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 6: And I these are the hardest practices that I've endured,

555
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 6: but I see the benefits of it of how how

556
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 6: things turn out in the game and how we're able

557
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 6: to turn things around.

558
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: And I feel like we.

559
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 6: Get an accurate look of how we're able to uh

560
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 6: attack our game plan weekly, especially like how we practice

561
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. But just like things that like alone,

562
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 6: like this next play mentality, I feel like they make

563
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 6: everything simple for us just to execute. It's not it's

564
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 6: not a lot of cursive in this defense. You know,

565
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 6: it's a lot of details and once you're when you're

566
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 6: own your details and you do your job, like anybody

567
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 6: can sore in this defense.

568
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: So these are really the toughest practices you've had as

569
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: a problem, hands down, Tim.

570
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: Yesterday, Mark and Andre were talking during the game and

571
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: I was down on the field and I kind of

572
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: sensed it a little bit too, that early on, it

573
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: felt like you guys weren't playing with kind of that

574
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 2: that that joy like I've seen you guys play with

575
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: that like excitement like every play. And then you guys

576
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: defensively had a series basically stuffed them, and then then

577
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: I can see the defense starting to play with it,

578
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: and then the offense started kind of coming around at

579
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: the end. You kind of sense that early on, like

580
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: you know, maybe guys were tight, maybe nervous because it's

581
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 2: the Colts all that kind of stuff. You kind of

582
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: sense that because it looked like you shook it off,

583
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: but it maybe took a second.

584
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, you know, the coach got a dinam

585
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 6: and running back, you know, young guy that that has

586
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 6: a bright future in the NFL. So I feel like

587
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 6: our main, our main thing was to make sure we

588
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 6: eliminate him and stopped him in his tracks able for

589
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 6: us to do what we want to do. Yeah, And

590
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: I feel like once we were able to do that,

591
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 6: you know, I felt like it was we were able

592
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 6: to pin our ears back and play football.

593
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: All right.

594
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: So we mentioned a short week, you mentioned tough practice, says,

595
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: but it is a short weak so you're not gonna

596
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: have actual practices.

597
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 2: How do you think this goes?

598
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: And what's your experience like playing in a Thursday night

599
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: situation trying to get your body ready to go.

600
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so obviously I'm saying like we practice hard Wednesday Thursday,

601
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 6: you know, and whenever we do have our walked there

602
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 6: walkthroughs or tone down practices, like we're real attention to detail.

603
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 6: So I mean we work on like certain things as

604
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 6: far as path level, make sure you're getting off blocks,

605
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 6: you know this this like details like that that that

606
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 6: that that you can imitate in a game.

607
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: That's going to lead to success.

608
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 6: And it's crazy because it sounds it sounds like one thing,

609
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 6: but when you actually do it and you can see

610
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 6: it in the game, like you can see all right,

611
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 6: while we practice with details and while we practice the

612
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 6: way we practice, and I uh, we shout out to coach.

613
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 3: You know, he keeps everything.

614
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 6: You know, if you don't like something, he'll definitely address it,

615
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 6: but he keeps everything. I feel like we have a

616
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 6: mature team and I feel like we know how to

617
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 6: handle what he wants.

618
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: Tim's I passed you as you walking out out yesterday.

619
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: I was going back up to see Mark and I

620
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: saw you walking out, you're walking out with somebody, and

621
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: I could hear you, and obviously I know, but you

622
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: were talking about how you win with your pass rush

623
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: and how you want on a particular play with your

624
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: pass rush, and you and I've talked about that, and

625
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: I've heard you talk about that you're very technical, like

626
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: where your hands go and all that. Where did that

627
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: kind of come from? Because it seems like you're you're

628
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 2: very much a student of pass rushing and your moves

629
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: and how you throw your moves. Where did that kind

630
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: of start for you?

631
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 6: So you know, obviously you know being in different systems.

632
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 6: You know, I was in three four system where we

633
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 6: play left and right and then passed downs. You know,

634
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 6: obviously you pass rush, but I feel like you learn

635
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 6: some things from different defenses that like that, defenses like

636
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: this don't teach that. If you can, if you can

637
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 6: mix them in your gameplay right, you can get more

638
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 6: out of like your your game. So you know, especially

639
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 6: like I deal with certain like injuries every year or whatever,

640
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 6: if it's a hand or wrist, or if it's an

641
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 6: elbow or a leg or whatever, you.

642
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: Got to be more technical.

643
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 6: And I and I and I've gotten to this is

644
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: my seventh year, and I've gotten to the point to understand,

645
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 6: like the guys that's like.

646
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: Dominant every year in the D line. You know, they

647
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 3: they they're technical with the moves that they want to do,

648
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: and they're technical with how they rush.

649
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 6: And I feel like the coaches here that they trust

650
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 6: in how we rush and they trust in what we do.

651
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Speaker 6: And I feel like it's easier to go out there

652
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 6: and actually play and when when it's successful, you.

653
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 3: Know, you know they they're behind you.

654
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Speaker 6: And I feel like I've been in situations where you know,

655
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 6: like I haven't been able to have been up or

656
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 6: I haven't been able to play like or pass rush,

657
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 6: and I just I don't know, I just take advantage

658
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 6: of every opportunity I get, you know, I like, I

659
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 6: don't know, just a couple of years, got like you,

660
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 6: I wasn't really past rushing. So I just take I

661
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 6: have pride in it, and you know, I feel like, uh,

662
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 6: it's every opportunity. I know, like everything not perfect, but

663
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 6: I feel like if you technique, when technique comes into

664
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 6: part in football, and you can understand that you can

665
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 6: dominate guys, and you know, that's all I'm about. Whoever,

666
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 6: I'm going against whoever's over me. They know they're gonna

667
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 6: have it a long game. Some of the I'm gonna

668
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 6: come and I'm gonna keep coming all game, like like

669
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 6: Marshawn said, again and again and again and again and

670
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 6: again and again and again, and tell somebody break and

671
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 6: it's not gonna be me.

672
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: Dude to to that end, when did you kind of

673
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 2: have that realization of, you know what technique is it? Like,

674
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: my technique has to be at a high level. I

675
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: can't just be you know, like in college, you're the

676
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: most athletic dude on the field. They're not gonna stop

677
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: you no matter what you do. When did you kind

678
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: of have that realization Jim, that you know, you know what,

679
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: my hand has to be six inches here, not six

680
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 2: inches over here, or that guy's gonna beat me. When

681
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: did you kind of realize that technique was like the

682
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Speaker 2: main thing.

683
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Speaker 4: Uh.

684
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 6: And it's crazy. It's attention to detail with it too.

685
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 6: So you know, we got coaches there, coaches here, especially

686
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 6: dlone coaches, and they you know just they've been just

687
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 6: they sold so detailed with the work that we get

688
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 6: all throughout the week, you know, the with of of

689
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 6: your alignment tightness of your gap, like this tightness of

690
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 6: your alignment on formation. Just everything could they they everything

691
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: they can do to help us get an edge on

692
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 6: pass rushing or stopping or run.

693
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 3: They just they put it out there for us.

694
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: And I feel like it's easier to do things like

695
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 6: that when it's detailed.

696
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: To a certain point.

697
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: And I feel like all the coaches here they detail

698
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 6: everything to it to where you can just play.

699
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Speaker 1: Free awesome tim saddle with us all right. Night before

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Speaker 1: the Game Ritual. This is presented by Mattress Firm, their

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Speaker 1: bed today at Mattress. From the official sleep partner of

703
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. What is your night before ritual or

704
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: day of game ritual that you could share with us

705
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: to day before?

706
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 6: The day before a game, I have to eat pasta okay,

707
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: so I try to balk up so like, I eat

708
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 6: a lot the day before a game, so I don't

709
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 6: eat the day of the game.

710
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: Oh carry over, yeah, so I let it carry over

711
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 3: so the.

712
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 6: Day of game. It's crazy. I used to say, I

713
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 6: don't eat. I don't eat the day of the game,

714
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 6: so I eat during the game. So that's that's funny.

715
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 6: It's my own, my thing. But I've been doing it

716
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: for a long time.

717
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: You know. I like to I like to go out

718
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: there and I like to play it.

719
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 6: I light to wait, but I understand that I do

720
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 6: you need to bulk up the day before it.

721
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 4: I don't know.

722
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: I gotta throw my weight around. But getting getting a

723
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: lot of cars. My thing is carbs.

724
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: I gotta get a lot of cars in the day before,

725
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: like a marathon runner day before. Well, we hope you

726
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: eat well. Thursday Night, Tim, thanks a lot for joining us.

727
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: Thank you.

728
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: There's Tim Settle AND's hope he makes a meal out

729
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers and the rest of the guys up

730
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: front as well. Thursday Night Football Texans and Jets seven

731
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Speaker 1: fifteen Kick all Right, Coming up, Gary Kubiak and Andre Johnson.

732
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: This is Goat Talk. Jonathan Joseph as well. J JO

733
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: hosts the podcast with Andre, and they caught up with

734
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: their former head coach, former head coach of the Houston Texans,

735
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: the second mentor ever in franchise history. Excerpts of that

736
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: coming up here on Texans All Access. If you joined

737
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: us late, you want to hear about Stefan Diggs. Johnny

738
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: and I talked about him at length and segment number one.

739
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: And this show will be in podcast form soon enough,

740
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: might be there already wherever you get your podcasts, including

741
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com and the Texans App. We've got

742
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about tonight, Texans matchup coming up

743
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: at seven o'clock and this promised to you Goat Talk.

744
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: It's Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph. They do a podcast.

745
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube and it's also on the Texans App.

746
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,479
Speaker 1: And they've had numerous guests, really good ones like Michael

747
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: Irvin and this is another really good one and one

748
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna love.

749
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: Gary Kubiak.

750
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: This is gold stuff here, the second head coach in

751
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: the history of the franchise, and so much to say.

752
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: One of Andre's coaches, of course, So the guys had

753
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: a chance to sit down with the mentor former Saint

754
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Pias quarterback, Texas A and M quarterback, Bronco's assistant coach,

755
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: forty nine ers assistant coach and Texans head coach of

756
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak with J Joe and Andre Johnson.

757
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 4: He looked at your resume. You have a pretty lengthy resume, but.

758
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 7: Four straight state championships, past six thousand passing.

759
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 5: Yards they throw for that in the season.

760
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Speaker 3: That yay.

761
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 7: So just tell us about that man, just like being

762
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 7: you know, growing up here in Houston.

763
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: To me, it's like your legendire.

764
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 5: I don't know.

765
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 8: About that, but you know, Dre, I grew up off

766
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 8: Cavalcat nine forty five, so I'm a north side kid

767
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 8: and I grew up across the street.

768
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: From a YMCA.

769
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 8: So really, when I tell people how sports kind of

770
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 8: started for me, that was it because my dad was

771
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 8: a construction worker. My mom raised me and my three sisters.

772
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 8: But if I wasn't in school, or I wasn't doing

773
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 8: something at home for my mom or dad, and I

774
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 8: was over at the why competing, you know, playing everything

775
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 8: and just learning how to compete. So kind of all

776
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 8: started for me there at Saint Pie's, which was a

777
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 8: big athletics type of school. But I benefited, I think,

778
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 8: from back in those days. And I don't know how

779
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 8: it was for you all, but if you played sports,

780
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 8: how you played them all, you know, and nowadays guys

781
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 8: get a little isolated what they do. But you know, football, basketball, baseball.

782
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 8: If we didn't have baseball game, you ran on track. Team,

783
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 8: you know, So that was part of my life.

784
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 4: So you went from St.

785
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 7: Piass to Texas A and M, and then to become

786
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 7: the head coach in the hometown you grew up in.

787
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 7: Tell me what that was like, how the feeling that

788
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 7: was for you.

789
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 8: You know, first off, it was great, but it was

790
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 8: a little stressful. Being a head coach in National Football

791
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 8: League's a tough gig. You guys know that better than anybody.

792
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 8: But to come to your hometown and try to do

793
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 8: it without distractions, you know what I mean. A lot

794
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 8: of people had to get a lot of tickets. Man,

795
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 8: I had to have a lot of parking passes and

796
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 8: all that stuff. But when I look back on it,

797
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 8: it was a special for my family that time, as

798
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 8: it was for me. So you know, I wouldn't trade

799
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 8: it for anything to have opportunity to come here for

800
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 8: where we started, and you know where we started. We

801
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 8: had a long way to go, and we scared him

802
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 8: a couple of times there. Then we're pretty darn good.

803
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 8: So it was it was a fun ride and I

804
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 8: really enjoyed it.

805
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 9: Obviously, you'd be with him with Dre He's in the

806
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame. Now, what was it like the first

807
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 9: time that you had a chance just to obviously you

808
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 9: guys draft him, watch a ton of felms scouted him,

809
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 9: seeing him at Miami, do everything, but just to actually

810
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,320
Speaker 9: get him there, get him in practice, see him move around,

811
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 9: and now you start to figure out what I can

812
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 9: do with him as a player schematically wise, you know

813
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 9: things like that.

814
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know when I got here, Dre, what were

815
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 8: you in your third year? Maybe I think you're in

816
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 8: your fourth, Okay, So you know when I came here

817
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 8: with Charlie, Charlie Casher, he was a GM, and.

818
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: You know, I sat down with Charlie. He was really

819
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: good at what he did.

820
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 8: I had a lot of respect for Charlie, and he

821
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 8: basically told me, hey, you got a lot of work

822
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 8: to do here. We got a lot of work to do,

823
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 8: but you got a piece here that you can start

824
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 8: building around and doing this the right way. So, you know,

825
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 8: j Joe, the first time I saw him practice, you know,

826
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 8: all the great ones that I've ever been, I've never

827
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 8: been around a great player who didn't work. And when

828
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 8: I watched him work, it was easy for me. I

829
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 8: didn't have to be the example every day. I just

830
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 8: put him out there and tell him you guys, watch

831
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 8: this guy. We can get everybody doing it this way.

832
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 8: Then we got a chance. So really it was about

833
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 8: his work, habits. His talents speak for themselves, but the

834
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 8: way he worked, the way he went about his business

835
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 8: gave us a chance to make up some ground in

836
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 8: a hurry.

837
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 9: What makes it specially about a player like Dre and

838
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 9: a coach like you, Because obviously I'm going back to

839
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 9: your time from Denver and all over. I've seen the

840
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 9: way you guys call it plays and draw it up schematically.

841
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 9: But when you have a player special like him, to

842
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 9: where a guy can post fifteen hundred yards consistently and

843
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 9: things like that, does it make your job a lot

844
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 9: easier or harder because now you don't want to force

845
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 9: feed him.

846
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 5: Well, it may it makes it harder in a good way.

847
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 8: Because, man, when you got a player like that, you

848
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 8: get you gotta figure it out as a coach, you know,

849
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 8: because hell, if I didn't get him the ball, man,

850
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 8: he would just come stand behind me, you know, and

851
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 8: the guys up in the booths would say, hey, Coob,

852
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 8: you see him standing behind you. I said, I know

853
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 8: I ain't got him the ball, but no, it's it's

854
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 8: it's what you want as a coach, you know, to

855
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 8: sit down with your pad and pencil and watch a

856
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 8: lot of film and figure out how you're going to

857
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 8: attack somebody. And then you know me talking to dres Andre,

858
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 8: you gotta play all over the place, man, you know,

859
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 8: because if not, they're gonna find a way to double

860
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 8: you and take you away. So I started moving him.

861
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 8: It was fun for me creatively, you know, to do that.

862
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 8: And he responded, Drake, Drake could go in a meeting

863
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 8: room without a pen and paper, listen to you, take

864
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 8: it right to the practice film in about thirty minutes.

865
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 8: So not many players can do that. So it's a

866
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 8: credit to him and his work.

867
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 7: Being in Denver and being backing up John Elway.

868
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Speaker 4: How do you think that helped you as a.

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00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 8: Coach, Well, in a lot of ways. I was a coach, Drake.

870
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Speaker 8: He didn't let me play very much, you know what

871
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 8: I mean. So my rookie year, I was a first

872
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 8: picking eighth round. So nowadays I wouldn't have been drafted right.

873
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Speaker 8: And I don't know if you guys know that, but

874
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 8: nineteen eighty three was that big draft. There's like five

875
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 8: guys in the first round, Marino, Elway, Blackledge, Kelly, I'm

876
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 8: missing somebody assize all them. I was the only other guy.

877
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 8: Next I was drafted that was in the eighth round,

878
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 8: so it was it was a pretty big gap. But

879
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Speaker 8: I went to Denver. Elway was drafted by the Colts,

880
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Speaker 8: so I was in Denver about three days and they

881
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 8: traded for him. So I'm thinking, hell, I'm gonna have

882
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 8: to pay them to play. Man, I ain't gonna make

883
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 8: this team, you know. But next thing I know, they

884
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 8: keep me. I was the third guy going in my

885
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 8: rookie year. John got hurt, Steve de Berg got hurt.

886
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 8: I got to play one week, good things happened. Next

887
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 8: thing I know, I backed him up for nine years.

888
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 8: So in a lot of ways, my career prepared me

889
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 8: for coaching, because you know, it's back when we were

890
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 8: handsignaling every play. We didn't have the helmet stuff, and

891
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 8: so in a lot of ways I was coaching and

892
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 8: didn't know it.

893
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Speaker 1: You're listening to excerpts of Goat Talk with Idray Johnson

894
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Joseph talking with Gary Kubiak.

895
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Speaker 7: You didn't play as much, but did you just feel

896
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 7: like coaching was the next thing?

897
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 4: For you. Was it something that was was it a

898
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: goal for you to be a coach?

899
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 8: Well, it's what I was thinking I was gonna do

900
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 8: before I got drafted, you know, to be honest with you,

901
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Speaker 8: when I when I was leaving A and M, you know,

902
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Speaker 8: I didn't I didn't know if I was gonna have

903
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Speaker 8: a chance.

904
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Speaker 5: To play for football.

905
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Speaker 8: So I thought about teaching and coaching that's what I

906
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 8: wanted to do, and uh, you know, I'd be darned

907
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 8: ten years of playing gotten away. And then all of

908
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 8: a sudden, Uh, when I decided to walk away from football.

909
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 8: I was actually Dan Reese was our coach, and he said, listen,

910
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 8: I want you to go to work for me and

911
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,240
Speaker 8: what you coach for me? And I thought to myself,

912
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Speaker 8: if I'm going to do this, you know, I don't

913
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 8: want to be given a pro job right off to

914
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 8: get go. I said, you know, I'm gonna let me go.

915
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 8: See how I like this. So I got a chance

916
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Speaker 8: to go back to A and M and coach running backs.

917
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 8: And I was bored. I was coaching running backs and

918
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Speaker 8: I wanted to coach quarterbacks and watch a passing game.

919
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Speaker 8: And I'm watching all this, you know, end zone film

920
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 8: and stuff, and but I fell in love with helping.

921
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: Kids, and uh so I coached college football for two years.

922
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Speaker 8: And next thing I know, Shanahan calls me and says,

923
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Speaker 8: come to San Francisco. So, you know, my first job

924
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 8: coaching and pro football coaching quarterbacks. Had a tough job,

925
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 8: as Steve Young is MVP. So I got spoiled pretty quick.

926
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Speaker 7: You know, just looking at your family, your sons, what

927
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 7: they're doing in the NFL, do you think that was

928
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 7: something that was just kind of pushed on them because

929
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Speaker 7: of you know, you being a head coach or you

930
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 7: because you know, I've been able to see all of them,

931
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Speaker 7: and I think it's something that they truly love doing.

932
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Speaker 8: No, it's you know, God, hope I didn't push it

933
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Speaker 8: on them, you know what I mean? You know, I

934
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 8: mean they they were around me obviously every day I

935
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Speaker 8: took them to training camp, made them work, you know,

936
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 8: and so they were around football. I kind of knew

937
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 8: two of my boys would do something with football. I

938
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Speaker 8: had one that I swore you would never do it,

939
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 8: and that's been in Prisco for four years with Kyle,

940
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Speaker 8: So you know, I don't know they could answer that

941
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 8: question better than me. But they love it. They work

942
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 8: hard at it. It's fun for me. Now that I'm

943
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 8: out of the game. I've got more iPads and I

944
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 8: ever had in my life, and I got the Niners

945
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 8: I pad the same time pad, you know, so I

946
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 8: watched practice and I keep up with what's going on.

947
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 8: But you know, the shoes on a different foot now.

948
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 8: Now now I'm the one that they complained to.

949
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:09,439
Speaker 5: You.

950
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Speaker 8: You know, I used to complain to my wife and

951
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 8: and then when things weren't going good. Now they call

952
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 8: me when they have rough days. So life kind of

953
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 8: goes full circle. But I'm proud of them. They work hard,

954
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 8: so hopefully they're enjoying.

955
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 5: What they're doing.

956
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 9: And I think, you know, like obviously talking about your son,

957
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 9: I think the overall big picture talk about like the

958
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 9: coaching tree. Obviously you say you started with the forty

959
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 9: nine ers. Forty nine ers of my team. Growing up,

960
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 9: I didn't know what a West Coast offense and other

961
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 9: stuff was. But obviously as I came to get a

962
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 9: chance to be a professional player, started to see, you know,

963
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,720
Speaker 9: Shanahan's offense and all that, and it still exists today,

964
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 9: you know, just with mc veigh and all those guys.

965
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 9: Just talk a little bit about how that coaching tree started.

966
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 8: You know, it's pretty cool to Joe. I mean when

967
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 8: I was a head coach here in my first couple

968
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 8: of years, you know, you go into a staff room, right,

969
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 8: all these staff rooms had this big desk, and so

970
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 8: all the full time coaches they get the good seats

971
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 8: to sit around the table, you know, the head coach

972
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 8: sits at the end, and then you have all these

973
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 8: intern type guys, you know, young kids that work for you,

974
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 8: and they got they got a little folding chair and

975
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 8: they sit on the wall and they sit around the room.

976
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 8: And for me, the guys sitting around the room, and

977
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 8: the folding chairs, for Kyle Shanahan, Lafleur, Salah McDaniel. You know,

978
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 8: when I look back on that, I'm like, damn, man,

979
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 8: I had no idea.

980
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 5: What I had.

981
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 8: So when I go talk to coaches and stuff, I

982
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 8: tell them all the time, I say, hey, guys, you

983
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 8: got these staffs, but these young kids that are interning,

984
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 8: and you need to listen to everybody because there's no

985
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 8: telling what type of insight, what type of career they're

986
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 8: going to have. So you know, I was just very

987
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 8: fortunate to be around those guys that drevers around Kyle.

988
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 8: Kyle was a very very bright, bright kid, you know

989
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 8: from the get go. So uh, just happy for them.

990
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 8: Makes it fun for me, you know, sitting here and

991
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 8: texting my phone, Hey, good luck you guys this year,

992
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 8: and you know, they shoot me right back. So I'm

993
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 8: just rote proud of all of them. And the NFL

994
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 8: is in a good place because a lot of these

995
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 8: great young coaches.

996
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: It's the best of Goat Talk with Andrey Johnson and

997
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: than Joseph. Gary Kubiak is their guest.

998
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Speaker 9: We continue and you know, I switch gears a little

999
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 9: bit and go back to my time here with Houston.

1000
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 9: Obviously I signed here with you as a free agent,

1001
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 9: came here and like you said, it was close a

1002
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 9: couple of those years.

1003
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 4: Just think about you know, obviously you went.

1004
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 9: On to win it eventually in Denver, but just you

1005
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 9: know how it reaps on you a little bit of

1006
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 9: times in your mind. You're like, man, we was that

1007
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 9: year because players, we said him talk about it all

1008
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 9: the time, like man, go down or if this or that.

1009
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, we were really good, boy, And we went to

1010
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 8: Baltimore the year that beat you know what, we get

1011
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 8: beat by six, you know, and and we were missing

1012
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 8: mad TJ did a great job, but uh, and you know,

1013
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 8: and in this league it's hard just to get close.

1014
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 8: And when you get close, you know you missed that window. Man,

1015
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 8: It's it's so damn hard. But uh, we had a

1016
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 8: lot of fun, you know, and things worked out. And

1017
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 8: know I was, I was. I got to speak of

1018
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 8: the thing tonight and as I was getting ready to

1019
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 8: think about what I'm going to talk about, and I

1020
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 8: was thinking about one of the most disappointing times of

1021
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 8: my coaching career.

1022
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 5: That's just one. I got to let go here. You know,

1023
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 5: it was really really hard.

1024
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 8: But the next two years after I got let go,

1025
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 8: when you're sitting there going, man, did I fail? You know,

1026
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 8: where's this thing taking me? The next two years of

1027
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 8: my coaching career, I was part of twenty seven wins,

1028
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 8: five playoff games in the World Championship. So God is good,

1029
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 8: you know, took care of me.

1030
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt, no doubt.

1031
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 7: Is there a term or a particular time where you

1032
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 7: felt like, Okay, now I'm ready to be a head coach?

1033
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 8: Well, I think you always think you are, you know,

1034
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 8: when you're as you're growing up and stuff, the thing

1035
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 8: that I had going for me working for Kyle's dad,

1036
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 8: for Mike. There were a couple of times I had opportunities.

1037
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 8: I went to Cleveland when they first moved back to

1038
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 8: the Cleveland to be the Browns, they interviewed me. I

1039
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 8: think I was close for the job. University of Colorado

1040
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 8: offered me their head coaching jobs. I could have went

1041
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 8: to College Trout interviewed in New Orleans, but I always

1042
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 8: had Coach s Hanahan there to basically say, hey, you know,

1043
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 8: think about this. You know, because you got a great

1044
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 8: job here, I'm gonna take care of you.

1045
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 5: Keep working for me. We're gonna win.

1046
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 4: You know.

1047
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 8: You wait for the right job for you and you'll

1048
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 8: know when it's right. But don't just take one to

1049
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 8: take one. So I think I benefited from his advice

1050
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 8: through through my career with him. And then when this

1051
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 8: opportunity came up to go home, Uh as tough as

1052
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 8: it was taking over expansion franchise, I think what there

1053
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 8: was to gain UH made it that desirable to me.

1054
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 9: Okay, obviously coming here in division rivalry Tennessee Titans, you know,

1055
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 9: guys went back and forth. They had a couple of

1056
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 9: times to win there. But you know, nobody here and

1057
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 9: Houston can't forget about the time Dre and Courtland Finn again.

1058
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 4: It's a about that.

1059
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 8: Oh man, I've told that story too many times, Drey,

1060
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 8: You're right tired of hearing it. But no, I just

1061
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 8: we did. We had some great, great games with him.

1062
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 8: Man about Dre that day they they beat us on

1063
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 8: VYS quarterback draw here, Man, I dang, and that was hard.

1064
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,959
Speaker 8: But then I remember us going down there like early

1065
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 8: in the season and beating them.

1066
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 5: But uh, great rivalry.

1067
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 8: Because of the you know, we all know the situation,

1068
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 8: but uh, you know Drean Courtley went at it all

1069
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 8: the time. He followed Dre round on the field, and

1070
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 8: so it was very competitive. And uh, you play each

1071
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 8: other a lot in the NFL, and you get tired

1072
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 8: of each other after a while. And you know, he

1073
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 8: stood behind me and told me, I gotta do it.

1074
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: I gotta do kop. So what was I gonna say?

1075
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: There's so much more to that podcast on YouTube and

1076
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts, especially Houston Texans dot com.

1077
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: So check it out with Gary Kubiak and Andre Johnson

1078
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: and j Joe on Goat Talk, real fun stuff there

1079
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, another show, the eve of Game Day already

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Speaker 1: upon us on a Wednesday night, so Nick Cassario will

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Speaker 1: be on, Tamiko Ryan's will be on, It'll be awesome.

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Speaker 1: And then Thursday night Texans at the Jets coming up,

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Speaker 1: Texans matchup. Have a great night, Go Texans.