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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Tony Peterson. Welcome to the wire to Hunt Foundations podcast,

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Speaker 1: which is brought to you by First Light. Today's episode

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Speaker 1: is all about bows, but also the fundamental question of

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Speaker 1: whether an upgrade is really necessary for you or not.

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Speaker 1: In the not too distant past, I spent a decade

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Speaker 1: of my life as the equipment editor for bow Hunter

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Speaker 1: Magazine and bow Hunter TV. That gig was pretty amazing

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Speaker 1: from the perspective of getting new hunting gear and being

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Speaker 1: able to try it out in a wide variety of scenarios.

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Speaker 1: It was also an eye opener on many fronts, not

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Speaker 1: the least of which was setting up and hunting with

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Speaker 1: like six or seven brand new bows every year. As

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Speaker 1: you can imagine, that will shape your opinion on bow technology,

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Speaker 1: bow fit, and whether it's worth it the upgrade every

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Speaker 1: year or every couple of years, or only as often

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Speaker 1: as Haley's comments swings through the night sky and signals

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Speaker 1: that random cult leaders and their followers should drink the

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Speaker 1: poison cool aid and head off to Narnia or wherever

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Speaker 1: they go. This episode is all about new boats, whether

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Speaker 1: they are actually worth it or not. Before the Rhona

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Speaker 1: swept across the globe and change how we all gathered

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Speaker 1: together for various events. I did a lot of speaking

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Speaker 1: engagements and a lot of outdoor shows. As you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: my seminar topics nearly always centered on white tail hunting,

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Speaker 1: usually white tail hunting on public land or something similar.

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Speaker 1: When you've got an hour to speak, you learn pretty

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Speaker 1: quickly that about forty five minutes is a good run

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Speaker 1: time and for the actual seminar, because you'll need to

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Speaker 1: answer some questions afterwards. Oftentimes fifteen minutes for that isn't

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Speaker 1: really enough, but it does give you a glimpse into

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Speaker 1: what the crowd is thinking, and when you deal with

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Speaker 1: a lot of crowds, you get a pretty good glimpse

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Speaker 1: on what the average white tail hunter is actually thinking.

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Speaker 1: The questions that come up immediately after a deer seminar,

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Speaker 1: they almost always involve gear. People ask, you know, what

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Speaker 1: broadhead do you shoot, what's the best decoy, what's the

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Speaker 1: best dear scent? And of course the question that comes

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Speaker 1: up every single time, what bow do you shoot? Now

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Speaker 1: this is a loaded question, my friends, kind of like

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Speaker 1: are you a forward or chevy guy? Or what's the

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Speaker 1: best bird dog breed? To get? The thing about bows,

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Speaker 1: at least modern compound bows is they mostly all look

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Speaker 1: the same. They mostly all advertise pretty similar features and

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Speaker 1: performance specs. They mostly all carry a similar price tag,

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Speaker 1: which would make Fred Bear roll over in his grave.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, bow choice, It's highly subjective. Even

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Speaker 1: if you had unlimited funds and could buy whatever bow

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Speaker 1: you wanted every year, if you were real honest with yourself,

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Speaker 1: you'd probably brand hop. What I mean by that is

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Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't become a fanboy of anyone brand if

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Speaker 1: you could shoot the newly released flagship models set up

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Speaker 1: here specs every year. My mother in law, who is

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Speaker 1: partially a resident of this planet and partially a resident

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Speaker 1: of some alien world that is totally untethered from reality,

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Speaker 1: she likes to get hunt. Hell. My whole family is

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Speaker 1: obsessed with finding eggets and other cool rocks. We are

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Speaker 1: just rock hounds through and through, I guess. And while

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Speaker 1: we're walking a lake shore with sore necks, while staring

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Speaker 1: at the ground straining to see a hint of reddish

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Speaker 1: purplish translucents that might indicate an egg it. My mother

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Speaker 1: in law likes to say things like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: believe the aggets choose you. Maybe those pockets of water

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Speaker 1: or air that formed in magma over a billion years

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Speaker 1: ago and then filled in with silica and other minerals,

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Speaker 1: rocks with concentric lines like topographic maps, and then took

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Speaker 1: and then much later beneath the crushing weight of the

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Speaker 1: glaciers as they crawled their way down from Canada, only

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Speaker 1: to eventually melt and recede, leaving us with thousands of

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Speaker 1: lakes in a landscape greatly altered. Maybe they're just there

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Speaker 1: and that's just cool. They don't pick us. We picked them,

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Speaker 1: just like we do with our bows. Yet I get

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Speaker 1: model will choose you. This is where the bow buying

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Speaker 1: They're almost always built with a very smooth draw cycle

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Speaker 1: engineered for and foremost to generate blistering aerospeeds. They're usually

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Speaker 1: engineered for that great intangible that is shootability, where accuracy

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Speaker 1: they will put two holes in the biggest bucks, provided

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Speaker 1: you hold your pin where you're supposed to, and you

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Speaker 1: shoot decent arrows tipped with decent broadheads. I was only

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Speaker 1: going to brush over this speed thing, but I just

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Speaker 1: can't do it. I won't do it. It seems I've

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Speaker 1: shorter of the brace height, the more time your arrow

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Speaker 1: a cam component to the whole thing, with what you'll

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Speaker 1: here described as aggressive cams. All this means for most

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Speaker 1: that butt pucker moment when you're calmly trying to float

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Speaker 1: whispering in your ear whenever you draw, and especially when

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Speaker 1: you draw and have to hold for longer than it

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Speaker 1: usually takes you to get through your shot sequence. Personally,

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Speaker 1: there are enough tiny fallen angels whispering in my ear.

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Speaker 1: I don't need anymore Now, the good thing about boat

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Speaker 1: designs and the end years behind them is that they've

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Speaker 1: our bow needs. Bows today can achieve pretty impressive speeds

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Speaker 1: the speed aspect of the bow you're interested in, make

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Speaker 1: plenty before you swipe your credit card. Now, at this

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Speaker 1: can to shoot some different models. If you have a

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Speaker 1: what it's worth. But I am pretty picky about grips.

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Speaker 1: The slimmer the better for me. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: make tons of hand contact with my grip. Ever, I

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Speaker 1: don't want anything sticky or well grippy on my grip.

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Speaker 1: To me, that part of the bow should touch just

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Speaker 1: a little bit of my hand during the actual execution

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Speaker 1: shoot some different bows, you start to get a feel

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Speaker 1: for the draw cycle too, and for the grip. You'll

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Speaker 1: see what dead in hand really means, but only if

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Speaker 1: Some of the bows out there seemed to almost aim

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Speaker 1: amazing thing. And this is what I want. I want

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Speaker 1: it settles in so that my pin goes where it's

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Speaker 1: hands on one, it's no different from I don't shotguns

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Speaker 1: in my experience. If you hand me pretty much any shotgun,

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Speaker 1: just jive with me. I've got a little weather b

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Speaker 1: O'Ryan over under twenty gauge that was mostly supposed to

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Speaker 1: chickens and quail and even a few turkeys, just because

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Speaker 1: I love the feel of it and I shoot it

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Speaker 1: so well, comes to the shoulder quickly, settles in nicely,

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Speaker 1: and it's balanced just right. I'm sure your listeners who

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Speaker 1: The thing is that little twenty gage wouldn't cut it

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Speaker 1: for everyone. There are plenty of people out there who

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Speaker 1: would not shoot it that well and wouldn't appreciate the

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Speaker 1: field because it didn't work for them the way it

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Speaker 1: works for me. They need to find their own gun,

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Speaker 1: just like we need to find our own bows. Your

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Speaker 1: process it's definitely gonna be different than mine. Hell, maybe

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Speaker 1: you love speed bows. Maybe you want to use one

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Speaker 1: pin for every shot from five yards to fifty, or

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Speaker 1: maybe you hate having big pin gaps, so you want

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Speaker 1: blistering speeds and it's your number one priority. Or maybe

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Speaker 1: you want comfort, but you have a different definition than

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Speaker 1: I do. Either way, if you're even remotely into sitting

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Speaker 1: a new rig, do yourself a favor. Forget your brand loyalty.

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Speaker 1: Oh scratch that tamp down your brand loyalty. Cover up

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Speaker 1: that white tattoo on your shoulder, Scratch that Matthew's decal

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Speaker 1: off your truck. Do whatever, do whatever you have to

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Speaker 1: do to be somewhat objective, because here's the thing. The

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Speaker 1: best bow for you right now might not be made

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Speaker 1: by the company that made your last best bow. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying brand loyalty isn't important, especially if you're

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Speaker 1: I'm not advocating a switch just for the sake of it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, be open to the reality that a

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