1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in everybody. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: starts right now. We've got a racked and stack show 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: here for you. A lot of important news and conversations 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: to dive into. First off, majorcas The head of DHS 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: was grilled by Congress yesterday on how the border is 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: still a disaster. We are not going to let this 9 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: lapse as something we focus on. Will continue to speak 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 2: about the reality of the wide open US Mexico border. Also, 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: immigration and Customs enforcement in New York City is in 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 2: terms of court dates already. To get a sense of 13 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 2: how the backlog is if you are an illegal who 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: is waiting for your day in court, which who knows. 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: If we're leaving show up in New York City alone 16 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: right now, it's going to take about a decade. Twenty 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: thirty three is when they think they might have a 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: couple slots. You see how the game is played here, friends, 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that. Also, we have Los 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Angeles Mayor Karen bass Is thinking about a They called 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: it record breaking in the press release here one point 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: three billion dollars to buy up hotels for homeless individuals 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. I think we should discuss where all 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: of that is going to go play. Just as an aside, 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: I saw this on a Bloomberg article today. Yesterday I 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: mentioned how that there's just this massive growth in administrators 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: at the school system and the university system. You know 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: that Yale University now has an administrator for every undergraduate student, 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 2: not a teacher. 30 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Pretty wild to think about. 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: Think about that, we're talking about thousands of administrators. 32 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: I saw a stat on this similar buck talking about administrators. 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: Michigan has six times as many people working in their 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Diversity and Inclusion office as in their history department. There 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 3: we go, think about the University of Michigan, think about 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: that school. This is why what Elon showed at Twitter 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 3: when he referred to it as just a massive, bloated 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: activist organization really masquerading as a social media site at 39 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 3: that point, which is totally true. And he's doing amazing work. 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: And I thought the Tucker interview last two nights with 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 3: Elon was very worthwhile, you know, very very strong and 42 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: and interesting content for everybody. But we'll get into some 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: of that again. 44 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: Later on Clay it is. It is hard for me 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: to be shocked or even you know, in any way 46 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: surprised by what the Biden administration does. But I've got 47 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: to say the stories that the crime stories that happened 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: over the weekend that we talked about here and now, 49 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: remember every single crime incident, you know, unless it fits 50 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: into a broad or narrative, people will make an argument, well, 51 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: it's a local, right, it's a local story. There was 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: a shooting, it's a local story. When is it a 53 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 2: national story? When is it a national story that requires 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: the President of the United States to weigh in and 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: make this a truly across the board, you know, media 56 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 2: focus and political focus for the whole country. 57 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: So we know that. 58 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 2: Ralph Yarl, right, I believe I'm getting his name. I 59 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: know his first name is Ralph. Ralph was shot by 60 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: this elderly man who has now been taken into custody 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: and is facing his life in prison for shooting this individual. 62 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: We don't have a whole lot more in the way 63 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: of details Ralph. 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: Thankfully, again, there's no indication whatsoever that he did anything wrong, 65 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: was menacing in any way, tried to break in, There's 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: no so because people saying well what if Well, right now, 67 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: we have to go with the facts. The facts are 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: he did nothing wrong. 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: The details is a couple of things that I do 70 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: think for the defense will come out out at buck Is. 71 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: It was nine to fifty at night when this knocking 72 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: on the door happened. They say this eighty five year 73 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: old man, And I do think it's important to remember 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: that he's eighty five years old, was in bed, already 75 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: heard the ruckus like somebody trying he thought to break 76 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: into his house. This is what his story is. And 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: he came out and believed that somebody was trying to 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: rob him and fired shots to try to scare the 79 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: guy away. So I do think, look, this is there's 80 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: no indication that the guy did anything wrong. But I 81 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 3: do think from a defense attorney perspective, you have to 82 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 3: consider he's eighty five years old, he's already in bed, 83 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: he hears the moody, he thinks is trying to break 84 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: into his house, right. 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: That guy a there's no indication that the guy, the 86 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: elderly man who shot this kid is you know, a 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 2: secret member of the Klan or something, or has some 88 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: evil He made it eighty four years without ever committing 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 2: any crime. Okay, I thought it was some part welding. 90 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: You know, he's an old man, he's alone, he's scared. 91 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: He may you know, he may very well here have 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 2: broken the law. You know, he wasn't trying to murder 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 2: somebody for no reason. He got scared. Now, getting this 94 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: is where you could probably get into I don't know 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: what the even the legal equipment would be, but you know, 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: involuntary attempted manslaughter or something like that, or you know, 97 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: just right now, they've charged him with a felony class 98 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: A felony assault. And every state has different laws about 99 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 2: use of force and violence and things like that. But okay, 100 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: we've got By the way, it's very important context that 101 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: he was there at night. I'm just saying, you know, 102 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: it's not the kid. Didn't you know kick through the door? 103 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: Was it? He wasn't shot on the pony in eight 104 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: fifty at night? 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: Think about your aid's important your old grandpa, Like, how 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: is he going to react when he's already in bed, 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: like that's late to him. 108 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: There's more to the story. 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: And by the way, the prosecutor here saying there's a 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 2: there was a racial component to this. I would bet 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 2: that the when all is said and done and the 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: facts actually come out, the racial component is a white 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: guy shot a black guy here. 114 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Yes, that's it. 115 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: That's the racial that the prosecut because you remember, initially 116 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 2: they didn't even arrest the guy. Prosecutors, you know, bowing 117 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: to Okay, but notice we're talking about this story so 118 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: much because Joe Biden tweeted out, we've got to keep 119 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: up the fight against gun violence. This is from his 120 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: official Twitter account. And Ralph, see you in the Oval 121 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: office once you feel better. Okay, So Ralph is fine. 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: Ralph has no lasting injury. I mean, you know, it's 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 2: traumatic to get shot. I understand that. But he's out 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: of the hospital. Fine, right, he's not. There's no danger 125 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: to his to his physical safety or you know, no 126 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: lasting damage to him physically. He's a millionaire now, okay, 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: he's a millionaire. He's already had three million plus dollars raised. 128 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 2: But Biden tweets out about this invites why is this 129 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: so different from Kalin Gillis, who was shot by a 130 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: guy with a shotgun for driving into the wrong driveway 131 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: and murdered. I mean, you know, allegedly murdered. We haven't 132 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: seen officially all but it's seems like that killed for 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 2: suret lost her life, Joe Biden, The New York Times 134 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: MSNBC have showed you here that this white girl who 135 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: was killed in the driveway is worth much much less 136 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: to them as a news story and as a national 137 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: point of conversation than this young black man who was 138 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: shot perhaps entirely illegally but is fine, is fine, and 139 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: is now wealthy. In addition to it already, how do 140 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: they make this decision, Clay? How do they come up 141 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: with this? I read it again. 142 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: This is why I read the New York Times every morning, 143 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: and I think they were so shamed by their coverage 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 3: and putting them. If you listened to yesterday's show, they 145 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: put the shooting in Kansas City on the front page 146 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 3: of the New York Times as one of the most 147 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: important stories in their opinion, that had occurred in the 148 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 3: last twenty four hours. 149 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: They did not have yesterday. 150 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: In the addition that I saw buck anything about this 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: twenty year old white girl who was shot and killed 152 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 3: in New York State. Today, they moved the story from 153 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: the front page all the way to middle to back, 154 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: and they now had a story above the Kansas City story. 155 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: They had a story about the twenty year old white 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: girl who was murdered. I also think it's important to 157 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: note both people had GoFundMe set up buck the white 158 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: girl in New York State who was murdered again. All 159 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: the evidence suggests this is somewhat similar in that someone 160 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 3: panicked in a house over the arrival late at night 161 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 3: in their mind of someone they didn't expect. She never 162 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: even exited the vehicle. She was in the car. The 163 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: guy walks out and shoots her, and she dies, and 164 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: there's a I mean, it's an awful, tragic story. She evidently, 165 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: with several friends, was trying to drive to a part. 166 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: I know something about I've had training when it comes 167 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: to use of force, and understand even from the law 168 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: enforcement side, use of force training back when I work 169 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: in the federal government. Shooting somebody in the car is 170 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: actually more in this context, is even less understandable than 171 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: shooting somebody through a door. Now, they both could very 172 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: well be entirely illegal. 173 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: But the danger of someone in a car is zero 174 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: present to you than it is if they're on your 175 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: front pork correct. 176 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: If someone's banging out a door, you might panic and 177 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 2: freak out and you know, make the roy You know, 178 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: you can't just shoot through the door, right, I mean, 179 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: that's but if someone's in a car, they pose zero 180 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: risk whatsoever. There's absolutely no basis and to come out 181 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: and start blasting away with a shotgun. But but the 182 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: key point here, Clay is so there were such Biden himself, 183 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 2: the Biden White House weighs in on this. Celebrities, idiot 184 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: celebrities who. 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Just want their moment of Oh I'm so virtuous. 186 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: You know, they're all talking about how they stand with 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: this kid. Okay, fine, do they stand with the families 188 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: of the four who who were murdered and the fifteen 189 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: who were shot at the Sweet sixteen at Alabama? Why 190 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: aren't they raising money for those kids' families? Why aren't 191 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: they doing something about where there was much more and 192 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: much more egregious vie people lost their lives, many of them. 193 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: We all know the answers, folks. There is something deeply 194 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: immoral about the way the Democrat Party plays these race games. 195 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: It's grotesque. 196 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: And I wanted to mention too, and I think we 197 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 3: mentioned it yesterday. This girl who was murdered, allegedly the 198 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: guy who shot her has been charged with second degree murder. 199 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: Her GoFundMe. The family has raised ninety thousand dollars. The 200 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: black kid who is going to be fine, as you mentioned, 201 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: it's not only going to get to go visit the 202 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: White House, but he's now raised over three million dollars. 203 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: So if you wonder what the power of narrative is, 204 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: a white girl who was actually murdered doing nothing wrong 205 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: except going to the wrong house has gotten, if my 206 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: math is correct, one thirtieth of the money as the 207 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: kid who was shot and will one hundred percent recover. Now, 208 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 3: people can make whatever choice they want in terms of 209 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: how they donate money into campaigns like those, but it's 210 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: hard to I rationalize how the girl who gets murdered 211 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: and loses her life is worth one thirtieth of the 212 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 3: kid who is who was shot and is going to 213 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: be fine. 214 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just curious. You know, now now that 215 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: they've made these two arrests in this Alabama, it's a 216 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 2: mass shooting. I fbiyes that four people killed, fifteen shot, 217 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: fifteen shot. 218 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: Think about sixteen year old's birthday party. Right at a 219 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: sixteen ye birthday party. 220 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: Two teenagers who have been named they are African American youth. 221 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: They shot up a sweet sixteen party, murdered for shot fifteen, 222 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: and the New York Times and the Washington and the 223 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: entirety of the Democrat apparatus from literally the President on 224 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: down thinks that it's a bigger deal that someone was 225 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: shot and wounded at a door because it involved and 226 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: elderly you know, possibly going through dementia. Can't see can 227 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: hear white guy versus two teenagers? I mean, it is horrific. 228 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 2: They shot up a sweet sixteen party. They could have 229 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: killed twenty or thirty people. 230 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: Well, the story here, and this is what so few 231 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: people are actually willing to say, is black lives don't 232 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 3: matter unless white people are involved in threatening or taking them. 233 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: But what is that You're so right, What does that 234 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: tell us? What does that tell us about the encomy? 235 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: I think it's because the narrative of white racism is 236 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 3: so predominant in the Democrat Party that any time they 237 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: can seize upon an incident of white racism to convince 238 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 3: black people that they are still victims and that the 239 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 3: that the world of the. 240 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: United States is eminently unfair to me, I'm taking advantage 241 00:12:58,760 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: of it. 242 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: There's enormous political advantage in and Democrats constantly doing this. 243 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: They they use this for black turnout at election time. Right, 244 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: the narratives of the Democrat Party pushes or obviously that 245 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 2: there's so much racism and that is the only reason, 246 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 2: the only reason for any of the problems in black 247 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: majority communities in this country is racism. That is actually 248 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: the Democrat Party's overriding belief and that's how they approach 249 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: it all the time. You know, we can't talk about 250 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: anything else, family structure, can't talk about rule of law, police, nothing. 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: It's just the importance of education. 252 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 2: And you sit here and you say, okay, hold on, 253 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 2: hold on, hold on one second. This is really just 254 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: turned into it and it has been this way for 255 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: a long time. But Clay, I just think we have 256 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: a perfect example of it here. Uh, this has turned 257 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: into it's similar to climate change, it's similar to these 258 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: other belief systems that Democrats adopt. That becomes really a mania. 259 00:13:55,440 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: There's a a monomaniacal focus on race from a lot 260 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: of the Democrats and a lot of the left, and 261 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: it almost turns into a religion. I mean, this is 262 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: their great crusade is to find everywhere and in all things, 263 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 2: the racism that explains everything. I mean, there's a delusion 264 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: at the heart of this. So that's what I see here. 265 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: And I think the New York Times, by the way, 266 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: I would could you imagine if they're you know there 267 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 2: is they've got a thousand journalists or whatever you know 268 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 2: working there. You imagine if they have one of them 269 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: tried to come on the show and explain the editorial 270 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: decision making. 271 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: Here, be fantastic. I would love to hear it. This 272 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: is that's what I always say. These people can't even explain. 273 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: They could you ripped pretty soundly, buck when they now 274 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 3: are covering this white girl's murder and they're putting it 275 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: on the same page and the print edition of the newspaper. 276 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: That's why I love the print edition, because that's a 277 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: calculated decision you're making about which stories matter to you. 278 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Joe Biden, the President of United States, just 279 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: told the entire country because everyone's aware of what happened 280 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: over the weekend, everyone knows what these news stories were. 281 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: That to Joe Biden, it is a a much more 282 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: worrisome thing when a sixteen year old black guy is 283 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: wounded than when a white girl who is twenty is 284 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: murdered with a twelve gage shotgun at close range under 285 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: the same circumstances. 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And I just thought that a 314 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 3: lot of you would enjoy this fireworks as it were. 315 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 3: Let's listen to cut eight. This is this morning on CNN. 316 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: You're making people think that the Civil Wars fought for 317 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 5: black people only for black people to get guns and 318 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: for black people to. 319 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 6: The Civil War was fought for black people in this 320 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 6: country to get freedoms, a noble mission. And I think 321 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 6: that even after we succeeded, we had to actually. 322 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 5: Secure those freedoms to reduce it. 323 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: In a speech at the NRA where you're. 324 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 5: Trying to say that black people to get guns, that 325 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: was the reason that you're there at the NRA. 326 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: That was the reason for the Civil War. 327 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: It is best reductive, it's insulting. 328 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: There are whole pain reasons that for this. 329 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: With due respect, I find your explanation reductive and actually insulting, 330 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 6: including the Black Americans to say that black people today, 331 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 6: compared to our theyics to four at sixty five, haven't 332 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 6: made progress in part because of the freedoms we secured. 333 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: All right, and then it continued. 334 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: Don Lemon lost as cool a little bit as the 335 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: interview played out all live on. 336 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: CNN this morning. Let's listen to cut nineteen. 337 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 5: You are sitting here telling an African American about the 338 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 5: rights and what you find insulting about the way I live, 339 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 5: the skin I live in every day. Here's where you 340 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 5: and all other freedoms when in black and white, that 341 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: black people don't have this, and that black people do have. 342 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 6: Well, here's where you and I have a different point 343 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 6: of view. I think we should be able to express 344 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 6: our views regardless of the color of our skin. We 345 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 6: should have this debate without me and regarding you as 346 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 6: a black. 347 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 5: You're sitting to hear whatever ethnicity, you are explaining to 348 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 5: me what it's like to be black. 349 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 6: Whatever ethnicity. 350 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm I'll tell you what I am. 351 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 6: I'm an Indian American. 352 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. 353 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 6: But I think we should have this debate black white 354 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. 355 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: I think we should have this content of the idea 356 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: to do it. 357 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 5: You should do it in an honest way way, and 358 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 5: what you're doing is not an honest and fair way. 359 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: We appreciate you coming on. 360 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 2: I love holding his ground here throwing down by the way, 361 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: this this is really. 362 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: What about what your ethnicity? You are. 363 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: Totally just getting so so sort of smarmy and nasty 364 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: for no reason, right, But this is what cable news 365 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 2: used to be. I just I know I get nostalgic 366 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: about this. But if you were to be a big host, 367 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it, right, Shawn's got the biggest 368 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: radio show you know at three to six across the country. 369 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: He's an amazing TV host whatever. Sewn used to have 370 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: people on handed in combs and still has them on today. 371 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: But would debate people. You think about some of these 372 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: great bill O'Reilly used to have people. 373 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: On and they get people like screaming matches. I mean 374 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: it was throw down time, is what I'm saying. Ed 375 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 3: Tucker on CNN with Crossfire. That was the entire concept 376 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: of the show. Right was left versus right. Let's totally 377 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: this is so so. 378 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 2: This whole world of political commentary used to have this 379 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: foundation of if you're gonna say some stuff, you'd you know, 380 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: you'd have to throw it. Look, if Rachel Maddow wanted 381 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 2: to come on this show, we would let her on 382 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: the show. 383 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: And people say, oh, why won't you have I'm not 384 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: gonna have like some. 385 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: You know, some troll that has you know, two hundred 386 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: Twitter followers come on and yell at us, right, like, 387 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: that's not fair because we've worked to create a platform 388 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: and we want to make the best usage of the 389 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: time of this audience. But if somebody of a stature 390 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: that it's worth the time for us to do they 391 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: want a debate, a debate, we'd love to do it. 392 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: None of them will do it. None of them will 393 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: do it. 394 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: And this is why you see why you know, Don 395 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: Lemon's getting paid I don't know, five ten million dollars 396 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 2: a year or something like that to do what he 397 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: does at CNN, and Vivet goes on there and he 398 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: Don is just getting upset. He can't even Vivek keeps saying, 399 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: let's have a real debate, Let's have a real exchange 400 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: of ideas. The Democrats that are on TV no longer 401 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: can do this anymore. They can only do the preaching 402 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: to the choir stuff. 403 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think the conversation you guys heard it. 404 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 3: But the idea that you can't talk about issues facing 405 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 3: Black America if you're not black is where identity politics 406 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: lead you, right, I mean Don Lemon didn't have an 407 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 3: actual argument. His argument was just I'm black, and so 408 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: you can't tell me about issues relating to black people 409 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: in this country because you haven't lived as a black man, 410 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: which led to what I thought was a pretty insulting 411 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 3: I don't even know what ethnicity you are, basically an 412 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: I'm paraphrasing Don Lemon here. This idea that you can't 413 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: examine data and facts and analysis and come up with 414 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: solutions and ideas and debate unless you are a member 415 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: of a particular ethnic group is particularly toxic because it 416 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: doesn't lead to any changes. 417 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: It's really just a it's a fallacy in our politics 418 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 2: now that you can only speak about things you know. 419 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: I've never killed anybody does that mean, I can't have 420 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: an opinion on murder. I mean, this can get really 421 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: ridiculous really fast. It should be about reason and argument. 422 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 2: And my point just in talking about some of the 423 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: you know, the big conservative names that are that are 424 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: still in the game, or some of them maybe have 425 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: retired now or whatever, they would still I mean, if 426 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: there was still this expectation, I think a lot of 427 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: us we would certainly do it. A lot of others 428 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: would have high level debates with Democrats. I mean, does 429 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 2: Don look, I don't know we have I think we 430 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: would debate Don lemon On. I would debate Don big 431 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: enough from platform if I weren't restricted from being able 432 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: to go on CNN because I'm Fox News employee. First 433 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: of all, they banned me for life for saying I 434 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: believe in the First Amendment boobs, so they would have 435 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 2: to rescind their banning. I would go on CNN and 436 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: debate anything with Don lemon I just had. I mean 437 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: one of the things that. 438 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 3: I've gotten the most favorable response for that I've done 439 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 3: in the last several months, I went on with Steven A. 440 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: Smith. 441 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: We have a lot of different opinions in the world 442 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 3: of sports. He had me on as a guest on 443 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: his podcast. I agree with you. I think the idea 444 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 3: of confronting and debating face to face for things that 445 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: you disagree with is were the worst for it now. 446 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: I also think what you see is by and large 447 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: left wingers will not actually debate right because that's why 448 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: Don Lemon was so bad. They will just Hey, I'm 449 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: a black man. You can't have an opinion different than 450 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: me because you're not black. That's his entire argument, basically, 451 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 3: and he got angry that the VECCEM to stand up 452 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: to it to say. 453 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: What also like think about if it's not Don Lemon, 454 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: who says to a guest, whatever race you are, kind 455 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: of sneered at him. 456 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 3: It was a very weird comment to make. Can we 457 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 3: play that one more time? Because sometimes I know when 458 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: the audio the second cut, because sometimes you're not really 459 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 3: expecting what you get. I think you're right, nineteen. Can 460 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: we can we play Don Lemon losing is cool? And 461 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 3: to your point, I think that's definitely what he does, 462 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 3: sneers at him about whatever ethnicity he is. 463 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: You are sitting here telling an African American about the 464 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 5: rights and what you find insulting about the way I 465 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 5: live the skin I live in every day. Here's where 466 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: you and when in black and white that black people 467 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 5: don't have and that black people do have. 468 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 6: Well, here's where you and I have a different point 469 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 6: of view. I think we should be able to express 470 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 6: our views regardless of the color of our skin. We 471 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 6: should have this debate without me regarding you as a 472 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 6: black man trying. 473 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 5: To hear whatever ethnicity, are explaining to me what it's 474 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 5: like to be black. 475 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 6: Whatever ethnicity. 476 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I am. 477 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 6: I'm an Indian American. 478 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: I'm proud of it. 479 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 6: But I think we should have this debate. Black white 480 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 6: doesn't matter. 481 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I think we should have this of the idea should also. 482 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: Look my brother in law is an is Indian American 483 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: by background, but I mean the zach like people you know, 484 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 2: Don Levit is a TV host, like I think he 485 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 2: knows what Vivek's background is, which is why it wasn't 486 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 2: like a cop. It's not like Vivek is you know, 487 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 2: half half tie, half Bolivian or something, and you couldn't 488 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: really like he knew exactly what he was, but he 489 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 2: just took a weird shot at him. 490 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 3: Well, also to your point, again, this is black privilege. Right, 491 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: this is the world that Democrats have created and identity politics, 492 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: oppression olympics. Don Lemon can say whatever ethnicity you are. 493 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: He has two white co hosts. If one of them 494 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 3: had said that, then it would be like a racial. 495 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: Explosion. 496 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: Now maybe not, because they're liberal, and if you're left 497 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 3: wing and you're talking to a conservative, you can be racist, right. 498 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 3: I mean we've seen this with Clarence Thomas for years 499 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: and years. You can detegrate him as an Uncle Tom 500 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: in a way that is permissible. So maybe they get 501 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: away with it because he's a Republican. But if vec 502 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: was a Democrat and a white person on CNN talk 503 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 3: to him like that, there would be an All Points 504 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 3: bill bulleted out, and god forbid if a Fox News 505 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 3: host did that to him, to cut him off and 506 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 3: say that his opinion wasn't worthy of discussion. 507 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: You know, I just I wish that there was something. 508 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: Like a a Bill Mahers show that was a little 509 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: bit more fair and a little bit on the right, 510 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: you know, where we could get people from where people 511 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: on the left would just be like, you know what, 512 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: I got to go into there, and I got to 513 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: be willing to throw down and and fight on these issues. 514 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: I just think that there's a I think there's a 515 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: space where look, Bill Moore sometimes I've done it. They have, 516 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: they have, They've got I think Doug Murray, who's a 517 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: brilliant guy, he's going to be on suits. They have, 518 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: They're they're starting to in the post COVID era, the 519 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: post well not really post Trump, but as we know, 520 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: they've started to do it. But I just think that 521 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 2: more debate would be better and and the you know, 522 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: consumers have to demand this stuff. Man, wouldn't it be 523 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 2: they wouldn't it be fun? We could do it at 524 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: school like college style tag team. You know, it's like, oh, 525 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: I think it would be fantastic. 526 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: Take the open, you take the cross. You know. Yeah. 527 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think there is a desperate 528 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 3: demand for that right now in America because you have 529 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: so many people in their echo chambers. And really, what 530 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 3: it does, buck is and I think you see this, 531 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: particularly on the left, it makes your arguments really weak 532 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: because you're not ever having to refine them. We talked 533 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: about this earlier in the week. Most people on the 534 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: left have no idea what people on the right think. 535 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 3: People on the right, by and large it's impossible to 536 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 3: avoid what people on the left think because they have 537 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: so much control over so much of culture. And as 538 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: a result, people on the left who get into debates 539 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: get carved up pretty quickly because their ideas are weak, fragile, untested. 540 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: And this is why I haven't had to be able 541 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 3: to make a case for them. 542 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: This is why it has just disappeared. This is why 543 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 2: you know, you can't have these because the left won't debate. 544 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 2: That's why we don't have debate shows. That's why we 545 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: don't have these exchange is any That's why I was like, 546 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 2: oh wow, Vekan and Don By the way, CNN could 547 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: make things interesting over. 548 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: There if they were willing to do more of this. 549 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: But you know, I guarant Don Lemon's probably screamed at 550 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 2: his producers after that one. How dare you let that 551 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: guy on here? All right, I's talk about tult the 552 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: Towers Foundation. 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Next hour, we're going 582 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: to be talking about what's going on out in San 583 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: Francisco because they're the Rii store. Arii Store has closed 584 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: because of rampant shoplifting and you know, it's a total mess. 585 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: And in addition to that, this is a report up 586 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 2: at San Francisco Chronicle a man killed trying to stop 587 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: shoplifter at Bay Area. 588 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: Home depot, according to police. 589 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about this and what's happening and 590 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 2: the degradation of our society because of these week I 591 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: don't even like soft on crime week on crime policies 592 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 2: out there, but we will get into all of it. 593 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 2: All right, Take take a breather, everybody, because we're talking 594 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 2: about something it's not as serious, but people maybe even 595 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: more more fired up about Clay. 596 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: So here's where we are on this. 597 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 2: I want to try to give the best rendition of 598 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: this because there's some important details that have not yet 599 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 2: been totally established. Washington Post running about this. They're calling 600 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: it popcorn gate, all right. Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Anthony 601 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: Bass tweeted about it. He's got a lot of followers. 602 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: His wife has a lot of followers, so missus Bass 603 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: also has, I believe, taking the social media on this, 604 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: or at least the husband who's an MLB pitcher. He 605 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 2: put this out. The flight attendant at United just made 606 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: my twenty two weeks pregnant wife traveling with a five 607 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: year old and a two year old get on her 608 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 2: hands and knees to pick up the popcorn mess by 609 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 2: my youngest daughter. Are you kidding me? 610 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: Now? All we really know is that his wife. 611 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Had two young children and one of that a big 612 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 2: bag of popcorn and they spilled a bunch of popcorn everywhere. 613 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: And people are. 614 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: Furious on both sides about this, which I think is 615 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: so interesting and I want to hear from this audience 616 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 2: on it. I'm gonna tell you my first thing, Clay, 617 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: It's not even about the kids. It's about the flight 618 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 2: attendants that after COVID, during COVID and after COVID flight 619 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: attendants went on some not all of them. If you 620 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: were a flight attendant, you're listening and you're nice and 621 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 2: reasonable people. I'm not talking to or about you, but 622 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: I did deal with I think you did. Two flight 623 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: attendants who were lunatics about the mask by and it 624 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: was always, you know, we will kick you off this flight, sir, 625 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: we will kick you off this flight, you know, because 626 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: it's beneath your nose or something. Who's so stupid that 627 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: they ever thought anyway? So I think flight attendants got 628 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: a little too much power going. We got Julie who 629 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: called in, who is a flight attendant. She's calling in 630 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: from trying to see Julian Atlanta, former flight attendant. Rather Julie, 631 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 2: what's going on? 632 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 7: So I'm so fired up about this. I saw you 633 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 7: last night, Clay, and I've been trying to find out 634 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 7: how to get in touch with you. The flight attendant's 635 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 7: first role primary is for safety. Secondary is to provide 636 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 7: an excellent passenger experience. So they want to return to 637 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 7: your airline for crying out loud and don't forget that passenger. 638 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 7: That woman heys your salary. We children, Yes, they drop things. 639 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 7: They still think guess what the adults are much more disgusting. 640 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,479 Speaker 7: So there's a divisions the Beach Airline called cabin Service, 641 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 7: and they come in afterwards and clean up the airplane. 642 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 7: That flight attendant should be a shape. I am so outright. 643 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:16,239 Speaker 3: So yeah, Julie, I was on Fox News last night 644 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: and I got asked this question, and I honestly, buck, 645 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 3: maybe I'm the rare to hear. I can see both perspectives. 646 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 3: So Julie's got a good argument. I have been on flights. 647 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: Every single one of my kids when they were young, 648 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: has thrown up on me on an airplane. And I 649 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: know there are a lot of other parents out there 650 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: that have disaster stories of being on airplanes. So I 651 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: have actually had tremendous help from flight attendants when you've 652 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 3: got a kid literally throwing up on you, to help, 653 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: you know, get cleaned up to the best you can 654 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: all of those things. But on the other hand, like 655 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 3: I looked at the picture and I was like, that 656 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: is a ton of popcorn that now is underneath the seat. 657 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 7: Wow. 658 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: So I look at this Clay Travis coming out with 659 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: the surprise here. 660 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 3: I don't have a strong like I can see the 661 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 3: flight attendant asking, and I can see the passenger being 662 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: upset that they were asked. In other words, I don't 663 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 3: necessarily know that I believe either person is in the wrong. 664 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: I could see the flight attendant being like, hey, you know, 665 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: there's twenty popcorn colonels there. 666 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: Can you help clean that up? Aggressive? 667 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: Maybe, But I can also see the mom being like, yeah, 668 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 3: I've got two babies and I'm pregnant. No, this is 669 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: what kids do. They're messy, clean it up after. But see, 670 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,959 Speaker 3: here's here's the problem. Is I see it because I do. 671 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: And so we just had Julie call in and she's awesome. 672 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: There are awesome flight attendants out there, just like they're 673 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: great teachers, and you know, you can talk about good 674 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: teachers bad teachers, right, Clay, What if the mom had 675 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 3: said no? In the you know, in the world we 676 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 3: live in now, flight attendant can basically ban you from 677 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: the airline if you're non compliant. They can have police 678 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: waiting for you at the tarmac as soon as or 679 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 3: you know, at the whatever the thing is that connects 680 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 3: the plane as soon as it lands and comes into 681 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 3: the gate. So it's pretty intimidating for a flight attendant 682 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 3: to give you an order. But it's not a military brig, Clay, 683 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: there are rules here signed no what I mean, she 684 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 3: doesn't have to do it, but I actually eight hundred 685 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 3: and two eight two two eight A two way in 686 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 3: third hour. 687 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 2: Playing buck starts right now, everybody, and we're going to 688 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 2: get into some stories out of San Francisco in a moment, 689 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: including unfortunately, it looks like there is a reporting of 690 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: a fatal incident when someone tried to stop a shoplifting. 691 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 2: We told you, we just talked about this and how expectations, 692 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,280 Speaker 2: you know, need to be realigned here for what people 693 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: can do, what's safe to do because the criminal elements 694 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: is just running them up in these cities. We'll get 695 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: into that in just a moment, But first off, I 696 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 2: had to start with this. Clay sent me this clip 697 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: in the in the break so because you know, we 698 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 2: talk a lot about political leadership and Joe Biden and 699 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: Kenny run again and are they going to vote for him? 700 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: Rfk is in against Biden. 701 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: We're also is this just an intellectual curiosity for us 702 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: to talk about at this point or could there be 703 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: some waves in the Democrat primary of some kind from this? 704 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: Well we'll see, you know, should we have him on 705 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 2: Should we invite him on the show? 706 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 3: I think we Shou'll definitely invite him on the show. 707 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 3: He's been right about COVID, and I think it's important 708 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: to credit people who were right about COVID. 709 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: I think that that's I think that's all we could do. 710 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: So we should put out the bat signal on that one. 711 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: But we often talk about the Fetterman effect, where Democrats 712 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: in there stop at nothing desire for power, are willing 713 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: to vote for essentially anybody in any state of cognitive ability, health, age, whatever, 714 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: as long as it is technically legal to elect the person. 715 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 2: The recklessness of their elevation to a place of political 716 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: leadership is not a problem, right doesn't Is it a 717 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: responsible choice? Shut up, peasants. We're Democrats. We need to win. 718 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: That's basically the attitude. See Joe Biden, but see John Fetterman. 719 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 2: You know Clay even more so. And he's back now. 720 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: He's leading a Senate was leading actually a Senate panel 721 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 2: examining federal food benefits. This is his first hearing as 722 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: a chairman of a Congressional subcommittee. And this is what 723 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: I want everyone to listen in. This is what it 724 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 2: sounded like play it. 725 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 8: I called it this hearing of the US sub Committee 726 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 8: and Food and Nutrition, Specialty, CRAPS, Organics and Research to Order. 727 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 8: Chairwoman seven Now and ranking Member Boozman, thank you so 728 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 8: much for coming. I thank you for your leadership on 729 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 8: this committee, and I look forward to work with you 730 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 8: to pass a farm bill. 731 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: It's even there's even there was a there are whole 732 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 2: periods where, I mean, that's some of the sound. You 733 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 2: kind of get the sense of the the halting speech pattern, 734 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: but there's whole things where he's kind of looking, he's quiet, 735 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: it looks like he's confused. 736 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: He's leading this panel. 737 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: He's not speaking extemporaneously. He is trying to read what 738 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 3: someone on his staff presumably has directly typed out for 739 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 3: him to be able to read in front of him. 740 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 3: And that's what it sounds like. And this is important 741 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 3: because it is evidence of what they will do with 742 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: Joe Biden. They do not care. Many of you out 743 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: there are reasonable. You watch Joe Biden stumble around, you 744 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: recognize that he is in the grips of rapid decline, 745 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 3: and you think to yourself, surely Democrats are going to 746 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,439 Speaker 3: make a rational decision and not put this guy up 747 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 3: for presidency when he would be in office theoretically until 748 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 3: he's eighty six years old. He's already the oldest president 749 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 3: that we've ever had in the history of the United States, 750 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 3: and he'll be eighty two, two years older at election 751 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 3: time next year, and he will be theoretically eighty six. 752 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 3: And you might be thinking to yourself, that's just irrational. No, 753 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 3: look at what they did to Fetterman, and Fetterman is 754 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 3: incapable of doing the job. I saw him yesterday, Buck 755 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: arrive back at Capitol Hill for the first time. Remember 756 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,919 Speaker 3: he's been hospitalized for months now because initially they thought 757 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: that he was having a relapse of the stroke, and 758 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 3: then they just decided that he was clinically depressed. And 759 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 3: I feel bad for the guy, but he showed up 760 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: for work after months wearing shorts and basically a hoodie. 761 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: I don't know how long they can keep this charade up, 762 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: but they'll do it for Joe Biden, just like they 763 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 3: did it for Federal you know, I. 764 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: Think it's. 765 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: It's interesting, there's actually a level beyond the fetterment effect, 766 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 2: which we were going to talk about this on Monday, 767 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: but a lot of you know, news came in with 768 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 2: a lot of things to get into. Clay and I 769 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: were in the pre show discussing getting into what's going 770 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: on with Dianne Feinstein and how Democrats are even starting 771 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 2: to say hold on it. So she's just she's just 772 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: not showing up to do the job. Not not because 773 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: she's got a cold or you know, she broke her 774 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: leg or something. Dianne fine Stein's and it it hurts 775 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 2: to have to talk about this because we actually had 776 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,800 Speaker 2: a very big and unfortunately, I think clad the Democrats 777 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: rely on the basic human sympathy that we all have here. 778 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: We've all had, I've had, I'm sure you've had elderly 779 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 2: relatives that we love so much who can't remember. 780 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: You know. 781 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 2: I remember going to see my great grandmother and she 782 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: would forget who I was while we were talking and 783 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: sometimes get a little bit unnerved and confused talking to me. Right, 784 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: So we know what this is like. That is the 785 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: state of Dianne Feinstein's mind. The New York Times, Vanity Fair, 786 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: They've all she's still a senator. She cannot remember anything 787 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: with any consistency, and she's still a serving US senator. 788 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 2: And how she's I believe eighty nine years old, and 789 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 2: she's one of one hundred United States senators right now. 790 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: And Democrats are only upset about this because they worry 791 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: that they might need, you know, because the narrow margin 792 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,520 Speaker 2: and the Senate for them, they might need every single vote, 793 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: and so they didn't need to make sure she shows up. 794 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 2: I will say this, I've said it before about what 795 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 2: they do with Biden. If the Democrats believe that Dianne 796 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: Feinstein was their best shot for the presidency, they would 797 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 2: put her forward. They would not think twice if they 798 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 2: thought that they could get her elected and that and 799 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 2: that she was who you know, let's say she was 800 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: in office right now. As for put Biden aside, because 801 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 2: she's obvious, I mean, no one can deny this. She 802 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,759 Speaker 2: forgets who she's talking to, she can't remember where she is. 803 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 2: Would they put her forward if as president, if they 804 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 2: thought they could just get enough votes. 805 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: I believe the Democrats would do it. 806 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 3: Remember what they said after the worst debate performance that 807 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: anyone has ever had in any of our lives, the 808 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 3: Fetterman versus Doctor Oz debate, where it was clear five 809 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: minutes into that thing that this guy was incapable of 810 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 3: speech or coherent thought. They immediately shifted their argument from Oh, 811 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 3: he's recovering, this is unfair. He's going to be fine, 812 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 3: he's fit for office. Buck, They shifted their argument to, well, 813 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 3: so what if he had a stroke. This is an 814 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 3: important message to have a stroke victim and elect him 815 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: because lots of people out there are disabled. That is 816 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 3: how dishonest they were. And we came on this show 817 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 3: and I said, hey, fitness for the job is probably 818 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 3: the single most important attribute that you would want a 819 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 3: politician to have, if you're being reasonable and rational. Take 820 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 3: it outside of politics. You would never say, hey, this 821 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 3: quarterback just got a broken arm and we're not sure 822 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 3: if his shoulder is also injured. We're not sure if 823 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,879 Speaker 3: he's ever gonna be able to throw again. You would 824 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 3: never say, well, let's give that guy a lifetime contract, right. 825 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 3: You would say, well, he can't do the job. The 826 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 3: last thing we want is a quarterback that's overpaid and 827 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 3: can't do the job. Yet, they immediately shifted their argument 828 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 3: to we should have a disabled person in the Senate 829 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 3: because it's an important message to send. And I don't know, Buck, 830 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 3: what the timeframe is here. What they're trying to avoid 831 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 3: is having to have another race, because what should happen 832 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 3: if there was decency in Pennsylvania is they would say, Okay, 833 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 3: Fetterman's going to serve for a year, and then his 834 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 3: seat is coming back open in the twenty twenty four election, 835 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 3: and we will have an election to serve out the 836 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 3: remainder of his term, right the four years that would 837 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 3: be left. That's what should happen. They're avoiding that with 838 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 3: every fabrica there being because they're afraid that they would 839 00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: potentially lose that seat. 840 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: And it's all about and. 841 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 3: I think it's an easy analogy to draw with Biden 842 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 3: if you think they're gonna be decent and honest. Remember 843 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 3: what they did that reporter Buck, the reporter who just said, hey, 844 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,319 Speaker 3: he can't speak very well. He didn't seem to understand me. 845 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 3: They savaged her for telling the truth about his physical 846 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 3: and mental state because she spoke outside the acceptable wound 847 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: bounds of what propaganda media is supposed to do. 848 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 2: They were really running with the it's ablest. It's the 849 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: equival that's saying that John Fetterman, stroke victim who can't 850 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 2: speak shouldn't be a United States Senator is like, you know, 851 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 2: mocking somebody who was in an accident and is in 852 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: a wheelchair or something. They were putting it on that 853 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 2: kind of moral plane because they are immoral, they are reckless, 854 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 2: and all they. 855 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: Care about his power. And you see this with the Democrats. 856 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the Feinstein thing. 857 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: Can we just sit here for a second and then 858 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 2: just say out loud she she's I mean, she's completely 859 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: never mind of being a senator. 860 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: She can't do any job. 861 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 2: And it's not you know, you will say, like, you know, 862 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: Joe Biden can get a job at out, which is true, 863 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 2: but I mean he could at least show up and 864 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 2: kind of pretend Clay she doesn't know where she is. 865 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is this is from level. 866 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 3: And by the way, I think she's on the she 867 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 3: is further down the pathway that Joe Biden is on. Right, 868 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 3: She's eighty nine, and Biden at eighty two or eighty 869 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: three is not going to be very far behind her. 870 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's something about. 871 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 2: Some of these lib boomers where I don't know if 872 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 2: there's this this, you know, the left wing narcissism coupled 873 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 2: with just living through a great time in America and 874 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 2: accruing all this power over. 875 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 1: They won't let it go. 876 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, they will not look at Pelosi. I mean, 877 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: these people are so grasping and obsessed with power. 878 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 3: I think it's actually mortality, Buck, and we're not that age, 879 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: so I don't know for sure, but I've seen this 880 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 3: in college football coaching, where these guys are afraid that 881 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 3: if they give up their position of power, they're going 882 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 3: to die rapidly. In other words, I really think this 883 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 3: is what it is. I think the Nancy Pelosis, the 884 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 3: Dianne Feinstein's when you get into your eighties and I 885 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,399 Speaker 3: hope to get there one day. But I think they 886 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 3: believe it is the work that is keeping them alive. 887 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 3: It is that purpose, and if they relinquish that work 888 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 3: and that purpose, they believe they will decline even faster. 889 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 3: And then you add in, Buck can't underrate this. The 890 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,279 Speaker 3: entire apparatus and staff surrounding those people owes all of 891 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: their jobs to that person remaining in power. So the 892 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 3: last thing those people in their thirties and forties and 893 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 3: fifties want is for their boss that they have a 894 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: good job working for that they make really good salaries 895 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 3: for many of them to give up that position of power, 896 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 3: because then they have to go find a new sugar 897 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 3: Daddy or sugar mama to be able to make a 898 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,360 Speaker 3: living in the world of politics. 899 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: You know this just came in. 900 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: We just saw this from the Prescot friends Clay that 901 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 2: I believe it was a few days ago. 902 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: We said on this show, can. 903 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 2: One of the handful of actual journalists reporters in the 904 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: White House Press Corps, please pose this question about what 905 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 2: Biden and Kamala have been willing to do when it 906 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 2: comes to Nashville. Why will they go to Nashville not 907 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 2: for the families of those killed by the trans terrorist 908 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 2: The question was asked Clay by Peter Doocy as we 909 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 2: were hoping, and I think we should play it when 910 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 2: we come back. 911 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: We'll play that audio for you when we come back. 912 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 3: Credit to Peter Doocy for asking one of the questions 913 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 3: we've been asking for several days now, maybe even weeks, 914 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 3: surrounding the Nashville shooting, which has now been over three weeks. 915 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 3: And by the way, we still do not have the 916 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: transgender shooters manifesto. 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