Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. I'm Tory Deal and I am back
Speaker 1: on the official Challenge podcast. Yes, welcome back, friend, and
Speaker 1: I am a Nissa for Eira And this is MTV's
Speaker 1: official Challenge podcast. Tori, Yeah, hi baby, welcome Yeah, Hi, No,
Speaker 1: thank you. Where the hell have you been and what
Speaker 1: have you been doing? I've missed you. Well, I can't
Speaker 1: say this. I've been working on secret things that I
Speaker 1: can't talk about, but I will say this. It was
Speaker 1: refreshing to take a break from sitting back and talking
Speaker 1: about it. But I missed it. I missed it. I'm
Speaker 1: so happy that Davon and Devid and you know, took
Speaker 1: it over and coddled it like a beautiful baby that
Speaker 1: it is. And I'm happy to be back. I mean
Speaker 1: I have been here for a couple of weeks either,
Speaker 1: you know, I was sick, Yeah, and I got COVID
Speaker 1: and then I was a lot I mean, there was
Speaker 1: a lot of shit going on. But we're back. But
Speaker 1: we're back. We're back. We're in one piece, well two
Speaker 1: pieces of persons. Yeah, we're good. We're here. We're still
Speaker 1: sharing the space with our girls, Davon and Devon. We
Speaker 1: love it. I'm just happy to do what we love. Dude,
Speaker 1: me too, and I'm just happy that we got to
Speaker 1: do this episode where you into eliminations and I'm screaming
Speaker 1: you're so strong Nashi at the top of my and
Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, you have to move faster, like
Speaker 1: I would move faster if I could move faster, but
Speaker 1: I'm dragging somebody on my knees. What cold sand at
Speaker 1: one am in Argentina? What an episode you went into
Speaker 1: two eliminations started off with Not So Fast with Jordan, Like,
Speaker 1: how did that feel? Horrifying? The last time I did
Speaker 1: Not So Fast, I lost, and I think it was
Speaker 1: triggering to see it again. I was like, I can't
Speaker 1: I remember. I telled Jordan after like when I saw it,
Speaker 1: I got nervous. He goes, I'm glad he didn't tell
Speaker 1: me that you lost the first one, but it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he yelled at me a lot, but I got it done,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what mattered for me. I was
Speaker 1: just like so much adrenaline, Like I couldn't even keep
Speaker 1: back the tears after, because it was just like a
Speaker 1: win that I didn't think I had, yeah, with a
Speaker 1: partner that I didn't think I needed. Until this season,
Speaker 1: and he just proved time and time again to like
Speaker 1: really push me. And it's so easy to give up
Speaker 1: on yourself, but when there's somebody else that you have
Speaker 1: to work for, two that sees how strong you can be.
Speaker 1: I mean, not just that was everything. I mean I
Speaker 1: was crying that whole episode. It's a lot to watch
Speaker 1: all of that. And then Casey's my roommate, having her
Speaker 1: like leave was a lot for me knowing how that
Speaker 1: was going to affect Nannie, who's also my roommate. You know,
Speaker 1: it was just a heavy. It was heavy to see.
Speaker 1: It was a lot going back in well, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, our partners are back after we think we're
Speaker 1: going to go home, then we have to compete then,
Speaker 1: I mean, adrenaline's at an all time high. I mean
Speaker 1: it was a lot. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm your
Speaker 1: friend and I will always for you. But I did
Speaker 1: not think that you were gonna pull this one out
Speaker 1: with Jordan, and I'm happy that I was wrong. Like,
Speaker 1: it was so beautiful to watch you get this and
Speaker 1: crush it. And yeah, I wish I would show would
Speaker 1: be moving a little bit more around the apparatus and
Speaker 1: really show the berthing of Jordan and I through somebody's ropes.
Speaker 1: But like that man knows how to tie a knot.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Oh he doesn't let me tell
Speaker 1: you what he doesn't know how to do. But I
Speaker 1: don't know your relationship. How are you feeling? Because he
Speaker 1: left and he was like, I'm so sorry, Tory, I'm sorry, Tory,
Speaker 1: tears in his eyes, You're hysterically crying. Oh he leaves,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, you know what, I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna come as a bit of a surprise. Like
Speaker 1: I it felt like relief for him to be gone,
Speaker 1: because it was so heavy, Like I know, everybody wanted
Speaker 1: to get off the ride, so did I, but I couldn't.
Speaker 1: It was I was stuck in it was your ride,
Speaker 1: it was my ride. Was it was so stuck in
Speaker 1: it that when he left, it was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: like that part of the game's over. It's time to
Speaker 1: go into the next part of the game. And then
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't. But you know, like I said, he's
Speaker 1: tied to you, and obviously that's more important. That would
Speaker 1: trump my feeling about being in a house with him.
Speaker 1: We'd already done it. The whole season, so I can
Speaker 1: deal with it for the rest of it. If you know,
Speaker 1: we're lucky enough to not go home, we're getting back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was worth it. But I mean this episode
Speaker 1: was just crazy in itself. It starts off with the elimination,
Speaker 1: it ends with an elimination. You're in both of them,
Speaker 1: so you're night. I did not expect that. I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to get a break. Nope, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: just but it's like a double dose. So like I
Speaker 1: still got it, and I think I needed that. I
Speaker 1: think I needed it all season to like just really
Speaker 1: just keep proving to myself and to other people that yeah,
Speaker 1: this game is hard and even I mean, your friends
Speaker 1: will count you out and that's totally fine. I mean,
Speaker 1: Dev said it to my face. I literally bet against
Speaker 1: you a million times. There was no way. But that's
Speaker 1: the kind of shit that pushes me. Yeah, well, it's
Speaker 1: only fair that the elimination Queen delivers an elimination sandwich
Speaker 1: with Tori's bar from the middle. I did. Really, it
Speaker 1: was a crazy episode. Anissa, gold star, who are you
Speaker 1: giving it to? Who gets the gold star? You? I
Speaker 1: don't want to give myself the GoldStar? I mean I
Speaker 1: could you Enjoredan. I mean we could get the gold star.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't win two eliminations in one episode
Speaker 1: and not take a gold star. Fine, I'll take one,
Speaker 1: humbly take a gold star. But my time out. You
Speaker 1: know who I'm gonna get my time out to who? Greg?
Speaker 1: The fucking bus driver. I've never seen anybody whip a
Speaker 1: public transportation bus the way that he did to the
Speaker 1: point of nauseum. So time out to Greg. I love
Speaker 1: you so much, you can but safe. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: made us ill. I like a good production time out.
Speaker 1: I think we also need to give a time out
Speaker 1: to somebody on the cast. And I think that just
Speaker 1: because of how it played out, I would say that
Speaker 1: it has to go to Amber and Chauncey because like
Speaker 1: nominating yourself into elimination like that, I've done it. It's
Speaker 1: it's a terrible idea. I think nominating only worked out
Speaker 1: when you knew what the eliminations were ahead of time,
Speaker 1: back in the day, when there were like only four
Speaker 1: that you had to pick from and you were like
Speaker 1: a boss athlete and you knew I got all these
Speaker 1: things down, yeah, or like you knew at least three
Speaker 1: out of four, you could beat that person, then you could. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's a tricky move and I'm off,
Speaker 1: but most of the time it yeah, sometimes it does
Speaker 1: pay off. But you know, there's also been legendary time
Speaker 1: so when it hasn't. You saw the CT and J elimination,
Speaker 1: like Jordan did it. Jordan nominates himself. Like there's big
Speaker 1: moments when this does not work out in your favor.
Speaker 1: It happened to you. Yeah, all of you're in time out.
Speaker 1: So why don't we get into Amber's because I really
Speaker 1: want to know what was going on through her head.
Speaker 1: And obviously everybody's got their opinion about why she and
Speaker 1: Chauncey nominated themselves, but I think it's best that we
Speaker 1: just get it straight from her mouth. And also we
Speaker 1: have the luxury of having her on. I know she
Speaker 1: lays low from podcasts, but she's agreed to come on
Speaker 1: and I'm really excited about that. I really excited to
Speaker 1: hear what she has to say me too. All Right, folks,
Speaker 1: today we have someone who I will say popular opinion
Speaker 1: is that she's gotten a lot of love this season.
Speaker 1: The audience loves her. I've seen video compilations of her
Speaker 1: on Instagram many supportive tweets. I would like to welcome
Speaker 1: Amber Borszutra. Yeah, thank you lady. Hello, we're coming on Amber.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of episode. That was a very
Speaker 1: intense episode. There was a lot going yeah, and honestly
Speaker 1: it's probably the first one I've really fully watched. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a lot going on. I kind of been disconnected
Speaker 1: from the Challenge world lately, off social media, and so
Speaker 1: this is like the first time. I don't blame you.
Speaker 1: The Challenge is one of those things. It's like when
Speaker 1: you eat too many cookies and you're like, okay, like
Speaker 1: I've had so much sugar, I can't have anymore. And
Speaker 1: then actually that's always but with this especially because you
Speaker 1: just relive it. And so you said, you know you've
Speaker 1: been taking space from it. How have you and Chauncey
Speaker 1: been post filming? I think great. I think he's good.
Speaker 1: Like we just feel so grateful to have been able
Speaker 1: to share that experience together, just because it's everyone always
Speaker 1: asked me what's it like, and they want to talk
Speaker 1: about and like, I can't explain it, and you have
Speaker 1: to be a part of it and in it to
Speaker 1: understand it. So just for him to actually to have
Speaker 1: him to decompress with, even though I don't want him
Speaker 1: to be going to that as well, Like it's kind
Speaker 1: of comforting in a weird way. But he's been taking
Speaker 1: it great. I think he's he loved every second of it.
Speaker 1: He would do it again if he could. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm happy that he got to have that experience and
Speaker 1: share it with me. I think Chauncy was a great
Speaker 1: addition to the bunch, like fresh eyes, you know, bright
Speaker 1: eyed and push your tailed, excited to be there. But
Speaker 1: like when you guys are having that conversation and he's
Speaker 1: like you love everyone and and he was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't, you know, like this just very just just
Speaker 1: very real, like being on the show that fully supported you.
Speaker 1: I really like Chauncy. I think he's great and he's
Speaker 1: really funny. And I wish they would have shown the bikini,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. They didn't show it. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: such a yeah the world has missed out. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Obviously it's unfortunate that you know, you guys leave,
Speaker 1: but there's so much to talk about in this episode
Speaker 1: before that. Even Yeah, we start this episode off with
Speaker 1: not so fast, right, and it's such a mix up
Speaker 1: because were you used to like coming into the episode,
Speaker 1: we get the daily challenge, let me get the elimination.
Speaker 1: We start off with an elimination. It's not so fast
Speaker 1: a Nissa's in there with Jordan and Kenny and Casey.
Speaker 1: Who did you think was gonna win that? Honestly, I
Speaker 1: saw how Jordan and Anisa we're tagging their knots, and
Speaker 1: I would not want to do that. But Kenny and
Speaker 1: Casey did very well. I think for me, just because
Speaker 1: of the relationship I felt like I built and Chauncy
Speaker 1: built with Jordan this season, we kind of wanted them
Speaker 1: to come back. But at the same time, it was
Speaker 1: hard for me to also see cases leave because of
Speaker 1: her and Nanny, So I didn't want to be like
Speaker 1: cas Ago. But in my head, I'm like me, I've
Speaker 1: seen kind of how things have played out with Casey,
Speaker 1: and I felt like Jordan would have my back over Casey.
Speaker 1: So in my mind, I'm like, Anissa, Jordan come back,
Speaker 1: you know. But it's it was a close one and
Speaker 1: I think both killed it. Casey Kenney did great. Anisa
Speaker 1: and Jordan did great. Anissa I was to cracking me
Speaker 1: up talking about her coach I cannot get that. I
Speaker 1: needed a little comic relief that was triggering that I
Speaker 1: cated every moment. Yeah, I had to. I mean it
Speaker 1: was a hard metal bar that was shaped like a square.
Speaker 1: It wasn't comfortable, No, I could tell. I didn't look
Speaker 1: it rude, it was just and then like you said,
Speaker 1: you've done it before, Nissa, but you've never done it
Speaker 1: with somebody, so you kind of had a loss. But
Speaker 1: I debunk this. I need to debunk this, Anisa, Me
Speaker 1: and you did Not So Fast tied together in Champ's
Speaker 1: First Star. Yeah, but I mind like bad fucking Memory
Speaker 1: were going to be the ship and we were like
Speaker 1: so of each other. I thought like we're both flexible,
Speaker 1: like we could do this, we were so bad at it.
Speaker 1: And actually that's kind of what had my mindset going
Speaker 1: in when you went into this again, tied somebody, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, me and Nissa did this, we weren't good
Speaker 1: at it. So I just was like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if she's going to be able to do what I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to do with somebody. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it was isn't it true that was the fastest
Speaker 1: untie Not So Fast in record? History record. That's amazing,
Speaker 1: Like it's gonna take trance and agility. I'm like, you
Speaker 1: know that everyone's out of breath not so fast as
Speaker 1: one of the hardest things. Yeah, I think one of
Speaker 1: the harder eliminations that not that rope is so heavy
Speaker 1: and the fact you have to weave your body with
Speaker 1: another human being through small spaces, like I hope they
Speaker 1: size that for everybody, like my ass is not little
Speaker 1: and joining two bodies going together like it, I'm it
Speaker 1: just it really worked out well. Yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's obviously great that you came back and Amber. Now
Speaker 1: you have to take into account in the game who
Speaker 1: are your alliances and you mentioned it at this point,
Speaker 1: like you don't really feel like you have many people
Speaker 1: in your corner. I mean the numbers are so small
Speaker 1: that you see where people are tied up, So you know,
Speaker 1: who do you feel like at this point in the
Speaker 1: game is really riding with you and Chauncey If anybody
Speaker 1: you know that where I felt who I felt closest
Speaker 1: too would be Olivia Rassio just because a Rossio, I
Speaker 1: felt close to him and also chauncing him, I felt
Speaker 1: like I had this weird, crazy bond that just friendship
Speaker 1: started to this flourish, which was amazing. And then I
Speaker 1: feel like Olivia, just like in the beginning and just
Speaker 1: you know, throughout this season she's never said my name.
Speaker 1: I felt like anytime she could have, she would have,
Speaker 1: and like, I just felt like she was more on
Speaker 1: my seven. Plus my rookie season, I thought it was
Speaker 1: amazing making it to a final, and I in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that would be amazing that
Speaker 1: I have. I felt like friends in here and I've
Speaker 1: played this season with Olivia Rossio and they would make
Speaker 1: it there if I even if I don't, you know,
Speaker 1: So I felt closest to them just at this point,
Speaker 1: just because I understood like kind of where I stood
Speaker 1: my rookie season, I kind of put myself in though
Speaker 1: she was. Plus, I'm also attached to Chauncey that he
Speaker 1: is a rookie, so I kind of I'm playing his
Speaker 1: game too, So I'm like, in my mind, this is
Speaker 1: just the pair I feel closest too. And I think
Speaker 1: it's also just as well, just because I've played seasons
Speaker 1: with all of y'all in I just have never felt
Speaker 1: like we've all worked together, you know, we've never worked together,
Speaker 1: none of us have, so mind I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I haven't had my back in this game at all,
Speaker 1: you know, other seasons or yet here in this game,
Speaker 1: so why would they now? Yeah, which I think is
Speaker 1: totally fair. And also, like you said, at this point
Speaker 1: in the game, now we're back with our right or eyes,
Speaker 1: Like we just went from being in jeans and now
Speaker 1: you're back. So you're adopting a new strategy again throughout
Speaker 1: the game and you have to figure out how to
Speaker 1: maneuver from here. But how did it feel to be
Speaker 1: paired with Chauncey again? It felt good because that's why
Speaker 1: what I came into this season four is him. I
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I said no, and I was just like
Speaker 1: I did not want to do it, even after the
Speaker 1: previous season. I was like, if I get a chance
Speaker 1: to take a break, I want to take a break.
Speaker 1: And then when I heard the theme and like we
Speaker 1: could bring somebody, I'm like, this is what it is.
Speaker 1: He was. He just lit up and I wanted h
Speaker 1: to have that experience, and I was like, I told
Speaker 1: him straight up. I was like, I will sacrifice how
Speaker 1: I feel. I will put everything at the side and
Speaker 1: just do it. If you want to to do this,
Speaker 1: I will do it. And literally, I shit you not.
Speaker 1: Two three days before I even leave where you go,
Speaker 1: we are out, Me and him went out to dinner
Speaker 1: because you know, you have to eat all that your
Speaker 1: favorite things were really they want to know, and I
Speaker 1: just started crying and we all know I'm freaking emotional,
Speaker 1: and he's like, why are you cry crying? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm mentally struggling and preparing myself for what I'm about
Speaker 1: to get into. And it's already like I'm struggling with
Speaker 1: that already before even entering the game. And it was like,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of excited for you to experience this, but
Speaker 1: I don't want you to experience how I feel mentally,
Speaker 1: you know. So that was a struggle for me. Knowing
Speaker 1: that he's gonna he's coming on this season, I didn't
Speaker 1: want him to get well though I feel like he's
Speaker 1: pretty well well adjusted. I don't ye, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: also feel like some people's experiences on their first season,
Speaker 1: because they're fresh, they haven't been tainted by the process.
Speaker 1: And he seems to deal with his anxiety very well
Speaker 1: because it's a very us place to be and we
Speaker 1: all I think act out when anxious in different ways,
Speaker 1: and he just seemed to like take it all in
Speaker 1: stride and you know, just like be a big kid
Speaker 1: and like absorb everything. Yeah, I think that sort it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was just more of him being like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just here. I can't believe I have this,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this, this is that I'm here. Like it
Speaker 1: was just more of like I can leave now. I
Speaker 1: can leave, you know, first, right in the beginning of
Speaker 1: the game, or I can leave later. It's just I'm
Speaker 1: actually having this opportunity and that means everything to me
Speaker 1: when or not. And so I think that that mindset
Speaker 1: him going in like that was just like I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna have fun and yeah, you know see what this
Speaker 1: is all about. So I don't know, I'm proud of him,
Speaker 1: and I'm very happy that he got to be a
Speaker 1: part of the Challenge family. Yeah, I think he was
Speaker 1: a perfect partner for you and I. He was a
Speaker 1: great addition. He was very funny. Yeah, that makes me happy.
Speaker 1: But watching you know, obviously you get we all got
Speaker 1: back with the Rider Eyes and then we had to
Speaker 1: jump right back into another partner challenge, Daily Challenge. Well,
Speaker 1: the bar bus or no bus. Oh no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: so unintendible of bus bars the CBB. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: know what we're talking about here. Yeah, but like, what
Speaker 1: was it like being in there with It was so girl,
Speaker 1: It was way worse than that because it was all
Speaker 1: over the balls. I don't know when he first initially puked,
Speaker 1: but I also don't like I get motion sickness too,
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised I did not throw up in that.
Speaker 1: But I think I was just like I didn't care.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I mean, I'm probably I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to, Like, there's nastier things I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to get my hands on and be in. So
Speaker 1: I was just like, let's just finish this out, rinse
Speaker 1: ourselves off, and get this over with. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to pull the lever two, you know when you did.
Speaker 1: I was just like, let this just be over with.
Speaker 1: I felt like we didn't have I don't know, we
Speaker 1: were just going in circles for way too long. I
Speaker 1: felt like we were out there for a while. Amber.
Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody's body. No, I just want to
Speaker 1: continue to talk about Amber's body flailing flying, Like how
Speaker 1: you like, how did you not? How did we not
Speaker 1: walk out of that thing and cussed? I know, like
Speaker 1: something happened that day. There's still a part of us
Speaker 1: on that bus. There's a part of you, and there's
Speaker 1: a definitely on there. Oh my god, his little pukes Tory,
Speaker 1: you just fucking projectile vomited on your Oh my god,
Speaker 1: sure did, and then pulled the lever and goes, oh no,
Speaker 1: you're like. I was like, I'm done not to make
Speaker 1: this about me, because we're gonna get more a namber TAUSI.
Speaker 1: But like, dude, Devin looked like he was on the
Speaker 1: lazy river, like he was flying on the balls. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you Amber, I was like tossed around the Yes, oh
Speaker 1: my god. It was intense. But the week before on
Speaker 1: the Heights Challenge, Chauncey didn't want to compete, So do
Speaker 1: you think that like coming into this week he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, fuck the car sickness, I just have to
Speaker 1: I don't. He doesn't get car sick So that was
Speaker 1: just that was new to me. I was like, I
Speaker 1: wasn't expecting that. But you know, I think just any challenge,
Speaker 1: like all of us, we like to just go hard
Speaker 1: and we ate nasty shit. We've seen it where, you know,
Speaker 1: we deal with it. Like I've been puked on plenty
Speaker 1: of times in my life by friends who have been hungovertolid.
Speaker 1: So I was like, this is nothing new, Like let's
Speaker 1: just get it through, you know. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he went in it just like wanting to also prove
Speaker 1: himself as also a rookie and just be like, you know,
Speaker 1: I did last last challenge, and I want to prove myself.
Speaker 1: I want to do better now. I'm also paired up
Speaker 1: with Amber again and hopefully, you know, we can get
Speaker 1: a win. So okay, so before we go any further,
Speaker 1: we need to take a quick break. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after this. It seems like pretty immediately, you know,
Speaker 1: in your confessionals or your interviews at least, it seems
Speaker 1: like you come to the conclusion that like, okay, you're
Speaker 1: going to throw yourself in yeah, which I think. I'm
Speaker 1: just curious, when did you start once you saw who
Speaker 1: was in power? When did it become like strategy for
Speaker 1: you to do this? Well, It's so crazy because Nannie
Speaker 1: even knows when me and Nannie were on a team,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, if you could ever go against me
Speaker 1: and like, if it ever has to be to where
Speaker 1: like you're in there and you have to go against me,
Speaker 1: I've already been struggling in this game. I feel like
Speaker 1: for me every season, just losing somebody and grieving and
Speaker 1: such a toxic environment or you really don't have friends.
Speaker 1: It's so hard. And even though we were so close
Speaker 1: to the end in the final, I was literally just
Speaker 1: so done, you know, and so like there have been
Speaker 1: plenty of times where I felt like I was getting
Speaker 1: close to Nannie because we were both kind of in
Speaker 1: this like this like fate like this thing together where
Speaker 1: we were just like, Okay, I'm going through this, you're
Speaker 1: going through this. Let's be there for each other. And
Speaker 1: I even told there I was like, if I go
Speaker 1: in and I have to go against you, like I'm
Speaker 1: much rather lose against you and just know that you're
Speaker 1: gonna still be there. Or like even in my mind too,
Speaker 1: I even told Chauncy, I was like, listen, if you
Speaker 1: want to go in because of your DQ on the
Speaker 1: last challenge, that's cool, Like I'm down the ride with you.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I've already been to a final, I've
Speaker 1: already won one. You haven't been the one. So I
Speaker 1: want you to make that decision. It's not necessarily like
Speaker 1: we don't. I don't have to go and tell the
Speaker 1: non any and Bananas that I want to go in Like,
Speaker 1: we don't have to. We can just leave that decision,
Speaker 1: leave that up to them. In my mind, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've already been there. I've already you know one one
Speaker 1: if anything, like no one else here had no other
Speaker 1: female has and I'm okay leaving the game if that's
Speaker 1: how I have to go, you know. So I was
Speaker 1: just like, just because I was so you I don't
Speaker 1: know like I felt. I even told Mariah this. I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like I have no girlfriends in
Speaker 1: this game. It got to the point where everyone was
Speaker 1: clinging and clicky, and you all are in your little
Speaker 1: group and hanging out and getting ready together, and I
Speaker 1: would try coming in talking to someone and it would
Speaker 1: just be very like the energy would be weird. And
Speaker 1: so when you when you feel that way, and and
Speaker 1: I just I mean something I have just Chauncey. But
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't want to just talk to Chauncey. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I want to get ready with my girlfriends and hang
Speaker 1: out and have conversations. And it wasn't like that for me.
Speaker 1: So I felt so just alone, and so in my mind,
Speaker 1: I was like, if I go into an elimination and
Speaker 1: I leave and go home, that's that's my face, that's
Speaker 1: what's meant for me, and I'm cool with that. If
Speaker 1: I stay in the game, I'm cool with that. Either way,
Speaker 1: I was fine, But I also I'm not the kind
Speaker 1: of person that's like going to give up at all,
Speaker 1: like throw an elimination or give up on, you know,
Speaker 1: an elimination. So I was like, I'm gonna try my
Speaker 1: best and if we come back, I'm meant to be
Speaker 1: here and you're meant to be here. So I think
Speaker 1: what it was, it's just me also just I was
Speaker 1: just struggling, and I was struggling just being away from
Speaker 1: my family and just knowing the mental state that my
Speaker 1: mother was in before I came into the game, and
Speaker 1: just knowing that that's why I wasn't going to do
Speaker 1: this season. So it just it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with oh, I'm meaning noble and I want to do that.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think like that because honestly, like literally
Speaker 1: six weeks before I wanted to go home, you know,
Speaker 1: I was telling people if you want to go against me,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It was like and I
Speaker 1: never not once said and anytime anybody's won, I never
Speaker 1: went up to anybody was like, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: make a deal. I'm trying to stay out of elimination.
Speaker 1: I've never done that. I've never all see. I'm like,
Speaker 1: let's just see how it rolls. I'm not gonna sit
Speaker 1: there and kiss ass. I'm not gonna sit there and
Speaker 1: do that. I'm not that person. If I'm meant to
Speaker 1: go an elimination, I'm meant to go in elimination. Not
Speaker 1: one person can say that. Has one can say I
Speaker 1: came up to them and tried getting out of go
Speaker 1: an elimination. Nobody because I just let it. I let
Speaker 1: it just happen how it's supposed to happen. And I
Speaker 1: got closer to Nanny and I wanted to see her
Speaker 1: in the final, just after talking to her more through
Speaker 1: the season, because in the beginning, I was like, not
Speaker 1: even Anna's gonna go home, you know, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I just get right. And then as the time went on,
Speaker 1: I felt I just saw the fight that she had
Speaker 1: in her why she was there, and I felt bad,
Speaker 1: you know, as well, so, I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: weird seeing that other people's mindset like what they thought
Speaker 1: and thought my mind set was, or where I'm what
Speaker 1: I was. You know that that's just looks like it. Well, one,
Speaker 1: I hate that you felt alone because you could have
Speaker 1: came in. We had plenty and everybody came in and
Speaker 1: got dr I mean, you could have got ready with
Speaker 1: us anytime we but no, listen, we would have never push. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I get what she's saying. It is it's an and
Speaker 1: it's a hard So when when whatever Mariah was like,
Speaker 1: you were dismissive whatever she said. I remember walking in
Speaker 1: and Amber was in there, Urice, Maryah Olivia and I
Speaker 1: came in and I was so uncomfortable I had to
Speaker 1: leave because I didn't know what I like. I didn't
Speaker 1: feel right. And it's kind of like you cling to
Speaker 1: the people that you feel comfortable with and safe with.
Speaker 1: And I get that, but I feel like if somebody
Speaker 1: would have said to me, I can only speak for myself, Hey,
Speaker 1: I feel alone right now, I would not ignore that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, I know it takes
Speaker 1: a lot to say I'm alone. I also when with
Speaker 1: the Noble Thing is that I played this game for
Speaker 1: a long time, so it's hard to think that people
Speaker 1: are always have the best intentions. Not saying that you're
Speaker 1: a bad person, I'm just saying I think that everybody's
Speaker 1: mind goes to, well, this has to be a part
Speaker 1: of the game, rather than this person's really just doing
Speaker 1: it because this is a good person, you know, so
Speaker 1: just like out of the goodness of their heart, they're
Speaker 1: going to do this for you or just do this.
Speaker 1: In general, We've been playing this game a long time
Speaker 1: and a lot of people do like shady shit, so
Speaker 1: it's so easy to group everyone's actions together, especially after
Speaker 1: living there for so long in this stress environment. Everyone
Speaker 1: gets paranoid, everybody gets weird. In real life, we would
Speaker 1: never be making these decisions. I'd be like, what do
Speaker 1: you want to eat for dinner? Not do you want
Speaker 1: to go rumble in the streets. It's such a different
Speaker 1: it's such a different atmosphere, and I think it could
Speaker 1: bring out the best and worse than us, and it
Speaker 1: can make us really just a bunch of paranoid pans. Right. No,
Speaker 1: I agree, because I get paranoid like that, you know.
Speaker 1: And I was looking at the lineup the Nissa tore Livy,
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoever I go up against tonight, and even
Speaker 1: including myself, we're all beasts and we're strong women. So
Speaker 1: it's like I already knew it was going to be
Speaker 1: a fight no matter what it was. So I'm in
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm like, why would I throw myself in
Speaker 1: elimination this late in the game just to be noble?
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean in that way, Like
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here just struggling mentally, and the only person
Speaker 1: that knows what I'm going through it's Chauncey, And so
Speaker 1: I think that, like I don't know, I think I
Speaker 1: should have left earlier in the game when I did
Speaker 1: have a loss and I was going through stuff with
Speaker 1: my mom, And I think just because I felt so
Speaker 1: much guilt when I got home. But I think that
Speaker 1: just now looking back and just watching me and him
Speaker 1: and just see it being in that environment with him
Speaker 1: where I feel like I'm within twenty four seven and
Speaker 1: we got to know each other just on a different level.
Speaker 1: That's my fucking person, Like I love him so much
Speaker 1: and this show has proven that. So that's really the
Speaker 1: one thing that the reason why I'm so glad I
Speaker 1: just stuck it through as long as I could, and
Speaker 1: I don't think we could all A lot of us
Speaker 1: can't say that. Like our person was there, Like I
Speaker 1: got to see somebody totally support you one million percent,
Speaker 1: and it was very nice to see somebody have your back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love you too. Together. It was really nice to
Speaker 1: see that kind of like yeah and I kind of love.
Speaker 1: And it just really worked. And I'm glad you got
Speaker 1: to experience that because I know that your experiences on
Speaker 1: here haven't been amazing. No one I want, but I
Speaker 1: know right I want them. I want it to be amazing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I sometimes just want to
Speaker 1: have a good time, like that money goes away, Like
Speaker 1: I want to feel good. I want to have those friends.
Speaker 1: I want to you know. And it's just because I'm
Speaker 1: being a decent person to someone someone doesn't know someone.
Speaker 1: It's crazy how some people can't take being treated decent.
Speaker 1: They take being tre to decent the wrong way, or
Speaker 1: to have a nice person someone being nice, they take
Speaker 1: it the wrong way. And it's like, wow, Like what
Speaker 1: goes on in your outside world outside of this challenge
Speaker 1: world where me being a decent person to you triggers
Speaker 1: you or makes you feel like I'm fake or I'm
Speaker 1: I'm doing this because of whatever reason. And even the
Speaker 1: same goes for me being emotional. I will always be
Speaker 1: this person. There's stuff in my life that makes me
Speaker 1: this way, and but I look at it and I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: love Josh. I love him so much. We all love him,
Speaker 1: but he cries all the time. But it's everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just Josh. But the second I get emotional, everybody
Speaker 1: looks at it and it's like it's crazy. I just
Speaker 1: can't stand it. Like I just wish that there wasn't
Speaker 1: some double standard to women and men sometimes in this game.
Speaker 1: It's just it's weird to me. What I can say,
Speaker 1: Amber is as somebody who's also watched you over the
Speaker 1: years grow and has shown up and dealt with all
Speaker 1: of the comments around your name, but continue to rediscover
Speaker 1: yourself and become more aware of it and still stand
Speaker 1: your ground and speak your truth. Like it's never like
Speaker 1: you fall Like yes, of course, maybe you take breaks
Speaker 1: and you step away from the show and social media
Speaker 1: and explaining yourself, but you always come back, and you
Speaker 1: always come back with a perspective to help people understand
Speaker 1: you better. And I do feel for you. I do
Speaker 1: feel like it's taken people a long time to like
Speaker 1: give you the benefit of the doubt. And I'm happy
Speaker 1: that you're here talking about it because the more I
Speaker 1: get to know you too, the more I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I feel like I have misunderstood her in the past,
Speaker 1: and like I don't want to be a part of
Speaker 1: that drain anymore. It's just like not it doesn't feel good.
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful that you're here and you're talking about it,
Speaker 1: and I know it's not easy, Like this world is
Speaker 1: really really intense, this challenge world, and obviously playing a
Speaker 1: game for a lot of money, it's really intense, but
Speaker 1: you know, you don't back down from it, and you
Speaker 1: show up and I think that you know you deserve
Speaker 1: more credit, and so I'm thankful than I know. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. I really appreciate you saying that, because
Speaker 1: I think also in holding sometime, I've held a lot
Speaker 1: in just because I don't want to hurt feelings, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I don't want to step
Speaker 1: on toast. Yeah, but it's just the point, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're just like you're I feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: like kettle and I'm finally just about to explode because
Speaker 1: it's like I hate being so misunderstood. It's like, why
Speaker 1: can I not be me and that be okay? But
Speaker 1: why can all these other people be them and that
Speaker 1: be okay? And I love them for them, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why Chauncey's always saying, amber you
Speaker 1: love everybody, because I'm like, I find the good in everyone.
Speaker 1: I love everyone like it doesn't matter, like you know,
Speaker 1: but I don't understand why I can't get that same
Speaker 1: respect or that same treatment, and that hurts, but it
Speaker 1: is what it is, Like I'm trying to just like
Speaker 1: this game is making me a lot tougher. I've come
Speaker 1: a long way since my first season, I'll tell you that.
Speaker 1: But don't love you lose your little sweetheartness either, because
Speaker 1: you and I talked for a long time and we
Speaker 1: talked about all of our stuff, which doesn't well. I
Speaker 1: talked about my reasoning for things, yeah, and that I
Speaker 1: think over the years, being like how you've been and
Speaker 1: being so open that I found myself getting more hurt
Speaker 1: than not. So I think Michelle has just hardened over.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been doing it for twenty one years.
Speaker 1: You know, being friends with people like made my game
Speaker 1: harder too, because I'm like, how am I going to vote?
Speaker 1: What am I going to do? How am I going
Speaker 1: to How do I separate the level of love I
Speaker 1: have for one person that I have for the other one, like,
Speaker 1: And it's hard because I love people. You know, when
Speaker 1: I was people pleasing, I was approval seeking, I was
Speaker 1: like doing all of these things on top of like
Speaker 1: having crippling anxiety, you like throws you for a fucking loop.
Speaker 1: And then you're like, I was really just trying to
Speaker 1: be nice. There was no malice in that, there was
Speaker 1: no intention I was. That's just who I am. But
Speaker 1: I think I got a little harder over the years
Speaker 1: where like, you know, I started to like protect my
Speaker 1: heart and then maybe I look like a bitch now
Speaker 1: instead of looking like a super too nice person or
Speaker 1: whatever that was questioned about my intentions. So it's like,
Speaker 1: no matter what you do, there's always somebody who's unhappy
Speaker 1: with it. Right, got to focus on the people that
Speaker 1: do appreciate who you are. You know you I agree,
Speaker 1: And I think after our conversation we had it a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, I think I was fine, Like it's fine,
Speaker 1: like I I will not I have nothing against you,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was just I even
Speaker 1: went into the season with Tori talking to Tour and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I felt like I was getting little closer
Speaker 1: Anissa and I want to actually experience this game with Anissa.
Speaker 1: And then towards the end, it was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's because everyone went to teams, but it
Speaker 1: was like you, Olivia, Tory, like every even Mariah when
Speaker 1: she came back, everybody was it was that group, and
Speaker 1: then it was me, you know. And I remember even
Speaker 1: a point I was telling Chauncey in the club, I
Speaker 1: was like, man, like I remember in the game early on,
Speaker 1: when Olivia and Michelle went against each other, I was
Speaker 1: ready for Michelle to go just because we're fighting. I
Speaker 1: felt like that was my friend, and I was hearing
Speaker 1: she knew no. It was so crazy, she knew that
Speaker 1: going into elimination is what I heard. And then people
Speaker 1: were telling all this stuff about here, but then I
Speaker 1: come to find out like none of that was true.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, at a point in the game,
Speaker 1: I was like I really missed her because that was
Speaker 1: like the only friend I felt like I had in
Speaker 1: the game. So I remember telling Olivia at one point,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so glad you're back. I was like,
Speaker 1: because it was just that tension, and I felt like
Speaker 1: it was making it harder for me in the game.
Speaker 1: And then again, like I've even told tour this, I
Speaker 1: was like, I felt so close to Olivia. But then
Speaker 1: even at some point, I felt like something shifted as well.
Speaker 1: And then like I was hearing people like even at
Speaker 1: one point, I think Tori and even Mariah about told me.
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on? I was trying to
Speaker 1: talk about things and everyone was like, people have a
Speaker 1: perspective of you. And I'm like, don't people have a
Speaker 1: perspective of everybody? But why is it just me? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And so that was like that
Speaker 1: was something that I hadn't playing over my head and
Speaker 1: over and over again while in the game, that I
Speaker 1: couldn't escape. I was just like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: Because I felt like one second I felt like I
Speaker 1: had some kind of friendship or something in the game,
Speaker 1: and then the next something shifted and I was being
Speaker 1: talked about in the rooms or behind my back, and
Speaker 1: there's gossip. There's probably ossip when I left and people
Speaker 1: were talking that shit. I don't even know, but well,
Speaker 1: I think you literally you said it yourself in this podcast,
Speaker 1: Like at one point in a time in the beginning,
Speaker 1: you didn't care that you were like, not even is
Speaker 1: or here he's a champ, they can go right yeah.
Speaker 1: And then later in the game you and Nannie got closer.
Speaker 1: And so when the story kind of unfolds for you
Speaker 1: and you've said certain things to other people and they're
Speaker 1: seeing it, and then they watch the new version of
Speaker 1: the story, they'll see it and they'll make up their
Speaker 1: own mind about how they feel about it. So people
Speaker 1: are going to look at it and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's playing whatever side, this is a game, and whether
Speaker 1: or not. And I'm sure you have a genuine heart
Speaker 1: and you genuinely everything you're saying it does come from
Speaker 1: a place of caring for somebody. I believe that for sure.
Speaker 1: But when other people are watching it and they're thinking
Speaker 1: game and strategy, they're gonna look at it and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, well, she's she said one thing,
Speaker 1: now she's saying another thing. And dude, I've been in
Speaker 1: that boat too. So it's just the way it plays out.
Speaker 1: And I think that the most important thing, at least
Speaker 1: that I'm getting from this conversation is your mental health
Speaker 1: is seriously the most important, right I ever feel don't
Speaker 1: ever feel like you need to sit in a house
Speaker 1: or play a game if it's it's taking you to
Speaker 1: a breaking point like this, because it's just so heavy.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know. I mean I think that.
Speaker 1: I think it's just speaker like it was mine or
Speaker 1: not it was. It's deeper than a game. When Nannie,
Speaker 1: I feel like because my first season, she was there
Speaker 1: for me a lot, just a lot, and I felt
Speaker 1: like I needed to do that for her, just knowing,
Speaker 1: you know, her mom had passed, and also when Casey
Speaker 1: had left, you know, and not even that, just like
Speaker 1: there have been times where she also didn't want to.
Speaker 1: She would talk to me and be like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to put I feel like I'm putting a lot
Speaker 1: on Casey. And I'm like, well talk to me, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like we're both grieving, we're both
Speaker 1: going through something like I can be that person for you.
Speaker 1: So we wouldn't even talk game. It was more so
Speaker 1: looking at this and being like, yo, I this would
Speaker 1: be great for her if she could make it to
Speaker 1: an end just because and go to a final and
Speaker 1: possibly would just because she is just everything she's going
Speaker 1: through to remind her of how amazing of a person
Speaker 1: she is, you know. So in my mind, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm not thinking about money. I'm not even thinking about
Speaker 1: the game. I'm just I don't even think about strategy. Heck,
Speaker 1: I sometimes suck at strategy. I'm just I let people
Speaker 1: are like or I stuck at the game. A lot
Speaker 1: other people kind of dictate how it goes and I
Speaker 1: just roll with it. But I I just in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking like that. And it's crazy just
Speaker 1: to see other people think that way, or one person
Speaker 1: put that in someone's head and another others believe it.
Speaker 1: And it's just even the same thing with Devin, you know,
Speaker 1: earlier in the season, I still do this point. Don't
Speaker 1: even remember, like why why it even blew up that day.
Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, but I left the room. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what's going on anymore. I
Speaker 1: just like it because I love I love Devon into Death.
Speaker 1: I have nothing against the guy, but even it's just
Speaker 1: even seeing that in him, thinking that this is how
Speaker 1: I'm playing the game, or I'm trying to get a
Speaker 1: target off my back. I'm like, all these people are
Speaker 1: telling me the same thing about you. So why is
Speaker 1: it just me trying to get this target off my
Speaker 1: back that you're that that's what you're thinking. I don't
Speaker 1: even think. I'm not even thinking like that. You're thinking
Speaker 1: that way. So when I see that and I see
Speaker 1: it replay and I hear those things, I'm like, this,
Speaker 1: just I wish I thought that way, because maybe my
Speaker 1: game would have been a little bit better. But I'm
Speaker 1: not thinking that way, you know, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting how, like you said, you get to
Speaker 1: a point in the game and like you're not thinking
Speaker 1: about the end because what happens. And I've been in
Speaker 1: this position before too, And I've also voted myself into elimination.
Speaker 1: I've didiot, but I've I've been to a point where
Speaker 1: I've been so blinded by the immediate circumstance that I
Speaker 1: like lost the like and sometimes that happens. It just
Speaker 1: all depends on who's in there with you. What's the
Speaker 1: game like, And so I think that, Listen, I don't
Speaker 1: It doesn't come as a surprise to me that, like,
Speaker 1: maybe strategy wasn't the top thing on your mind when
Speaker 1: you had a lot of other things. Honestly, I didn't
Speaker 1: even want to do thirty nine. I did not want
Speaker 1: to at all, So the only way I mean sorry,
Speaker 1: thirty eight WHOA, I didn't even want I didn't even
Speaker 1: want to do You're just speaking in future tense. I am,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to do thirty nine. I do
Speaker 1: not call think we all think, we all feel Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just didn't want to. And then just
Speaker 1: knowing that I can bring Chauncey on thirty eight, that
Speaker 1: he's the only reason I went to Honestly, I felt
Speaker 1: like I would have been way gone, way earlier in
Speaker 1: the game if I if he wasn't still there. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing that gave me my push. Other than that, Like,
Speaker 1: this was a season where I was just like whatever
Speaker 1: whatever happened to happens, I wasn't you know, That's just
Speaker 1: how I felt. When I left, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see another female champ, Like I
Speaker 1: was excited for you ladies. You know, it's a good feeling.
Speaker 1: And just knowing that y'all haven't experienced that yet and
Speaker 1: one of you were about to get that chance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that felt good for me too, like because it's like
Speaker 1: end the day again, money's money. It helped, like we
Speaker 1: all love it, but that doesn't just I'm just happy
Speaker 1: that someone was gonna get to experience what I felt
Speaker 1: crossing that line in the final so totally, I don't
Speaker 1: remember screaming that was beautiful. I got Anne hugs since
Speaker 1: sweaty hugs. Though I remember Devon doing pound backpack, but
Speaker 1: it probably wasn't one hundred and thirty at that point.
Speaker 1: It was probably one hundred and twenty. Anissa, like, that's
Speaker 1: one thing. I was just like I already knew going in.
Speaker 1: I was like, this probably is not my elimination, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It could, I think with somebody else.
Speaker 1: Totally honestly, it was just one of those things too. Also,
Speaker 1: I would have gotten one down. I almost got one
Speaker 1: down my niece and I was like, uh, che grab me.
Speaker 1: I was like, girl, you could at least let me
Speaker 1: have one. So I was so mad that I wanted
Speaker 1: to pull that middle dagger and I told everybody I
Speaker 1: was going to pull it, and yeah it was and
Speaker 1: I second guessed myself and I was just so fucking
Speaker 1: mad that. I was like, I have to knock over
Speaker 1: all of these and this was like a kind of elimination.
Speaker 1: I knew I could do well and I felt not
Speaker 1: so fast. Was like Jordan like telling me every dad,
Speaker 1: I just needed to like, how many eliminations have you been, bitch?
Speaker 1: Probably twenty four? Who knows? No, this season on thirty
Speaker 1: day three, this is this was the third. No, it
Speaker 1: was not yeah, because you in the world. Then it
Speaker 1: was us against Fessie and Kenny and Casey. Then it
Speaker 1: was Kenny and Casey that Amber, Oh dang, that's and
Speaker 1: you know what I doing shit all season? I'm here, No,
Speaker 1: my my, I remember my first season, you leaving right
Speaker 1: before the final. So just also to just like see
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I was like, dang, Anissa
Speaker 1: really does go in right to the final. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a lot that was like it is wild it is.
Speaker 1: I felt a huge weight just off my shoulders when
Speaker 1: I walked out, though. It was just like when TJ
Speaker 1: said you Casey and like to Fessie, me and Casey
Speaker 1: like you guys are done because you don't. We were
Speaker 1: like all right, Sea like it right the fucking season.
Speaker 1: I was ready to go open a bottle of wine
Speaker 1: with Casey. Yeah. Also I wanted to say to back
Speaker 1: up to the Michelle thing, like when you live with
Speaker 1: someone and then you're roommate, I think that totally changes
Speaker 1: your experience to who you live with and definitely get
Speaker 1: closer to the people in your room, right right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it was just me after that because I just
Speaker 1: had one bedroom. But no, I heard some things went
Speaker 1: down after I left. I know who, we all talk
Speaker 1: about that, but no, oh in that sex room, I
Speaker 1: heard it was the boom boom room after we left.
Speaker 1: It was for some people, it was just a PD
Speaker 1: thirteen snuggle room for other people. For other people was
Speaker 1: just a room where I wants used to go to
Speaker 1: steal aqua four and then it left when we left. No,
Speaker 1: but no, I think I think that. And when it
Speaker 1: came to elimination, like I was, if anything, I feel
Speaker 1: like Anissa was the one that though that. I was
Speaker 1: just like wow, like you know when you're kind of
Speaker 1: star struck or you're like a fan of Don't Go
Speaker 1: and it's I was like, I'm going against Anissa against
Speaker 1: like also a classic like this, and then a day
Speaker 1: she's like, this is the challenge. I may get more
Speaker 1: opportunities to come back into the game. But I am
Speaker 1: doing something that It's even Chauncey. He was like, I
Speaker 1: gotta go again to Jordan, like we were excited to
Speaker 1: be going, even though I went in being like, yep,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win this ship. But I went in
Speaker 1: and I gave my all. I tried just being deadweight.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know Anitsa's gonna win this, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make her work for it. You really I
Speaker 1: had so my thighs said absolutely not. Anissa and I
Speaker 1: did want again. I'm like, I can't fucking I might
Speaker 1: not be able to walk. I know. I remember looking
Speaker 1: at Tor at one point and I was like, Tori,
Speaker 1: she's got this. I was like, save your voice if
Speaker 1: you want, but like show I like to. Actually, you
Speaker 1: know what, fucking helped myself. I can't help myself. I
Speaker 1: felt bad after the Casey and Anissa elimination because I
Speaker 1: wasn't really voting for rooting for either of them very loud. Later,
Speaker 1: I need to said something to me like, oh you weren't.
Speaker 1: I really gotta amp up scream for her. You could
Speaker 1: not help this one. I felt like it was unintentional
Speaker 1: like you could not help it. Yeah I was. I was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well anyway, it wasn't personal amber and like I do
Speaker 1: think that, No, it was fine. I just I know,
Speaker 1: I don't think that some personality it at all. Like
Speaker 1: I think what it is, it's just knowing that I
Speaker 1: was just knew that I was going home, and it
Speaker 1: was just like, okay, let me just let me just
Speaker 1: kind of work, give her like you know, make her
Speaker 1: work for it, if anything, and then I can just
Speaker 1: go relax and sit in a hot tub and eat
Speaker 1: whatever I want after this and drink whatever I want
Speaker 1: to do. Why I need to go back to the game,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I was just like
Speaker 1: I was, like, it's what it is. I couldn't be mad.
Speaker 1: I think if anything, I just I think what hurts
Speaker 1: overall is just being misunderstood. Like I get it. Like
Speaker 1: everyone says, it's just a game. Yeah, it is just
Speaker 1: a game, but there are also things that you take
Speaker 1: from the game that like it kind of stays with me,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's also the same game for me
Speaker 1: every season. It's never like Okay, I'm going in. I
Speaker 1: have a niss notorious friends. Yea, they say my name,
Speaker 1: I get it because they have a better friendship. But
Speaker 1: at least they're my friends in the game, or at
Speaker 1: least I can go to them to talk about things,
Speaker 1: or to get ready with or to have that girl time.
Speaker 1: Like I don't have girlfriends in the game. It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything else. I just like, I
Speaker 1: just I feel like, I just I hate the same
Speaker 1: storyline when it comes in. I'm so over it. It's
Speaker 1: boring and it's annoying and it's like frustrating. So I
Speaker 1: don't I vowed next time we do a show together
Speaker 1: to be better friend to you. Yeah, and then you
Speaker 1: can come sin even going forward Amber you don't really
Speaker 1: wear makeup, but you can come. We can all pretend
Speaker 1: to get ready together two jewels and a little bit eyeliners.
Speaker 1: She's like, well, I hope, we obviously hope that you
Speaker 1: come back, like you have created a legacy for yourself.
Speaker 1: That I mean, you're you have made a name for
Speaker 1: yourself in this game, and you deserve to be at
Speaker 1: the final like all of us do. Everybody who's fights
Speaker 1: for it deserves it. And you know, obviously it was
Speaker 1: it's always bitter sweet saying bye. But TJ did say
Speaker 1: that he hopes to see you and Chauncey again. I know.
Speaker 1: So what did I feel like for Chauncey to get
Speaker 1: that from TJ. It was the tears for him, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean when you saw him cry. I
Speaker 1: think that that's when he felt like, wow, like he
Speaker 1: felt like the you know, part of finally, Oh, I'm
Speaker 1: a part of this Challenge family. But I think, well,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we'll see him again. Also being selfish
Speaker 1: by saying that because it helps me in the game
Speaker 1: as well, just like mentally and just having that loved
Speaker 1: one and like and just like, I don't think I
Speaker 1: could be away from him, not talking to him that long.
Speaker 1: But I'm praying and I'm hoping fingers crossed that he
Speaker 1: gets another chance, you know. And also I feel like
Speaker 1: he struggled by being called deadweight, and there are other
Speaker 1: things this season that he strug you know that that
Speaker 1: hurt him. Yeah, it's not. And it's just like, so
Speaker 1: I think that he still wants to continue to prove himself,
Speaker 1: and he wants to make it to a final, and
Speaker 1: he wants to go against the best. This is like
Speaker 1: a dream to him now that he's in it, you know.
Speaker 1: So I hope that we see him again. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd love it for myself to like as I'm being selfish,
Speaker 1: but okay, yeah, yeah selfish. Yeah, well I like the
Speaker 1: solid having someone solid. It feels good. Y'all. Have you
Speaker 1: have each other? You know what it's like to have
Speaker 1: your person there. So yeah, she's like my she's my
Speaker 1: platonic soul mate. Oh thanks, nush. All right, Amber, before
Speaker 1: we let you go, we have a game. Okay, we
Speaker 1: have three questions for you about your partner, Chauncey. Okay,
Speaker 1: if you say your ride or dies, now it's time
Speaker 1: to prove it. Okay, here is the first question. All right,
Speaker 1: who is the celebrity that everyone says Chauncey looks like,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Michael B. Jordan. Yeah yeah, he's always
Speaker 1: getting that. Yeah. Okay, now I'll get the next question.
Speaker 1: Chauncey played basketball in college? What division was he in? D? One,
Speaker 1: two or three? I think it's David. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: finally Amber, this is this is for all of it. Okay,
Speaker 1: how much does a cameo from Chauncey cost? I don't
Speaker 1: think he charges three three cameos? Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: being cameos. No, I don't know what. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: He actually when he signed up the cameo, the sellaries,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that, and how much do you charge? And
Speaker 1: he was like, I didn't know I was charging anything.
Speaker 1: So I not not everyone hitting you guys up with
Speaker 1: a false advertisement lawsuit because I have to pay twenty
Speaker 1: five dollars for a cameo. Oh god, okay, so its
Speaker 1: twenty five dollars. It's fine the whole time, A whole time, Okay. Um, No,
Speaker 1: I didn't love that, but yeah, two out of three
Speaker 1: i'd say, I'd say, I don't even know how much
Speaker 1: Tory's cameos are. I did get really on his I
Speaker 1: don't look his cameos. I don't look at any of that.
Speaker 1: I don't know how she charges for any of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. Yeah, Well that's good. Well, Amber,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. Should be getting
Speaker 1: a little high from Chauncey real quick, is cha come
Speaker 1: here here? Chauncey? Yeah, yeah, how much you charge? How
Speaker 1: much you charge for a cameo? Do you even know?
Speaker 1: I don't know, like twenty five I think, yeah? Is
Speaker 1: at it? Yeah? He said, yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: you heard it here. Chauncey gives cameos for twenty five
Speaker 1: dollars guys, so make sure you get on good seeing
Speaker 1: love you, hie, Amber, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on the podcast. I know that on social media, but
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming. Yeah. Like, for the record,
Speaker 1: you went into three eliminations this season. You want two
Speaker 1: of them? You absolutely are. You know you're an incredible competitor.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's always nice to have you on
Speaker 1: here and you know, have you share your side of things.
Speaker 1: So thank you for Thank you, ladies. I appreciate it's
Speaker 1: so good seeing both of you. Yes, you too too,
Speaker 1: And where can we follow you on social media just
Speaker 1: so we can send you some extra love and support.
Speaker 1: Nobody send Amber any shit, no shit, no um at
Speaker 1: Amber boars builtra all my social media, but no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I love my fans and like the people out there,
Speaker 1: they give me more love than mine my cast mates.
Speaker 1: We're going to switch to that narrative to make T
Speaker 1: shirts shirt for y'all. I wish I could be that
Speaker 1: fun party girl. I'm just so awkward and weird and
Speaker 1: just quirky, and I just wish I could be sometimes
Speaker 1: and wanting all his body to experience how y'all are.
Speaker 1: But I we are so fucking weird. You have not
Speaker 1: seen how weird we are. We know how build labyrinths.
Speaker 1: We fucking we save the plants like we are not
Speaker 1: regular people. We are weird. So maybe I'm well for
Speaker 1: the same box I think. Yeah, I think basically we
Speaker 1: just need to make sure that everybody feels more like
Speaker 1: comfortable running. Yeah, so I appreciate you, we recognize weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need as it is. I needed this podcast I did.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm happy now that I did it.
Speaker 1: So thank you all for having me. Oh, thank you
Speaker 1: about it? Thanks you Amba, talk to you so young girl.
Speaker 1: Well that was a really great interview with Amber. I'm
Speaker 1: happy she came. And she's always vulnerable, she's always herself.
Speaker 1: She tells it from the heart, so it's refreshing to
Speaker 1: talk to her. Yes, that was nice. Everybody send an
Speaker 1: Amber some love. You got the socials, But Anissa, what
Speaker 1: are your socials? What's your social media? What's your address?
Speaker 1: Social Security number? Relax, Okay, it's just Anissa MTV. That's
Speaker 1: a n E s A MTV on Instagram. I don't
Speaker 1: really do the Twitter thing. They're mean in those Twitter streets.
Speaker 1: What about you, Tori? You guys can find me at
Speaker 1: Tori underscored deal pretty much where I reside Instagram. But
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