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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jets Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Eric Ellen here at one Jets Drive, joined by Jets

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Speaker 2: GM Joe Douglas. Thanks so much for joining us inside

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Speaker 2: the studio. I know your favorite spot will be the desk,

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Speaker 2: but this is going to have to suffice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, next time we have to do the desk.

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Speaker 1: All right. Cool?

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Speaker 2: So what's it like for you now that the draft

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Speaker 2: is over and also that you guys have gotten some

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Speaker 2: free agents in here as well on the eve basically

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Speaker 2: of rookie Mini Camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, we're excited to get these guys in

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Speaker 4: for rookie Mini Camp and just get them, get them

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Speaker 4: part of our process. And so now it's getting with

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Speaker 4: our pro staff and going over some veterans that could

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Speaker 4: be good value additions if the opportunity presents itself. And

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Speaker 4: you know, back to being dad and going catching up

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Speaker 4: on baseball games and lacrosse games and track meets. So

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Speaker 4: that's probably the best part about it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Olufesh, you know from Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your thoughts, uh, the way the board was unfolding

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Speaker 2: before you guys were scheduled to pick at ten.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so it was a very unique group of offensive

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Speaker 4: linemen and offensive playmakers in general. And so as we

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Speaker 4: are going through the night, the early stages of around one,

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Speaker 4: it was pretty apparent, you know, everyone everyone was there

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Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of movement going on. There were there

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Speaker 4: was predicted to be a lot of trades. Yes, it

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Speaker 4: didn't happen. You know, everyone made a decision to stick

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Speaker 4: and make their pick. And so you know, when when

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Speaker 4: it got to us at ten, you know, we we

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Speaker 4: even before that eight nine, the phone was just ringing

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Speaker 4: off the hook, and so a lot of different opportunities

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Speaker 4: were throwing our way, and you know, we we knew,

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Speaker 4: we knew the direction we were going to go in.

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Speaker 4: And then we decided to make that one move back,

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Speaker 4: uh to the one spot, moved back with Minnesota pick

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Speaker 4: up some extra draft capital, and you know, we we

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Speaker 4: had we had good intel that it was it was

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Speaker 4: not gonna be our guy. Most likely quarterbacks, right, so

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Speaker 4: they end up you know.

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Speaker 2: You're prepared for every scenario, but people externally were not

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Speaker 2: thinking Atlanta's taking a quarterback after signing Kirk Cousins in

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Speaker 2: free agency. Yeah, what's going on there with you guys?

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Speaker 3: When that happens?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it didn't, It didn't affect our board.

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Speaker 4: But at the same time, it was it was just

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Speaker 4: was an interesting moment in the draft because you know,

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Speaker 4: in discussions with them leading up to the pick, there's

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Speaker 4: they they had made the decision. They're they're staying, and

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Speaker 4: they're they're picking their player. And so I was just

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Speaker 4: excited to see who this player is going to because

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Speaker 4: everybody had mocked out a defensive linem you know, so obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know, quarterback, like I said, like we all say,

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Speaker 4: is the most important position in all sports. And so

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Speaker 4: they locked into their guy and got him.

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Speaker 2: If I told you before the offseason began that you

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Speaker 2: guys would acquire John Simpson, Morgan, Moses, Tyron Smith and fashion,

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Speaker 2: what would your thought elated?

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Speaker 4: You know that wash We we had we had the

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Speaker 4: goal in mind, number one goal, Number one priority is

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Speaker 4: we've got to fix this offensive line. We've got to

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Speaker 4: get this offensive line in a good place and with

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Speaker 4: the with the good young core pieces we have add

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Speaker 4: to it really really fortify the group. And the way

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Speaker 4: things fell uh in free agency in the offseason and

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Speaker 4: then with Olu, that's a little bit of a dream

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Speaker 4: come true.

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Speaker 2: Really, you're a guy who played the position. What are

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Speaker 2: his most outstanding traits.

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Speaker 4: I love his consistency. He's he is a he is

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Speaker 4: a consistent player. He is a ultra active past protector.

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Speaker 4: He uh you know, in a lot of ways, you

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Speaker 4: know Sauce. Sauce was a guy who never got beat,

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Speaker 4: if ever gets gets beat. You know, low pressure rates,

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Speaker 4: Just a quiet, competitive, consistent young man. Loves ball, raised

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Speaker 4: you could tell he's he's made of the right stuff.

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Speaker 2: How long was that wait for you on night too?

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Speaker 2: Because I know you had circle mel Kai Corley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a long one. You know.

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Speaker 4: We we started getting active there in the middle of

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Speaker 4: like where we were at ten, we didn't feel comfortable

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Speaker 4: moving back to seventy two where we're at. So it

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Speaker 4: You know, you're just trying to you're trying to get

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Speaker 4: someone to move back to seventy two and you know,

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Speaker 4: try to entice him to do it. And so ultimately

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Speaker 4: we were able to get that done with Carolina at

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Speaker 4: sixty five and get our guy.

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Speaker 2: How does he compliment the guys you have in house

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Speaker 2: starting with Garrett and of course you added Mike Williams earlier.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this off season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I feel like in our room we

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Speaker 4: know Garrett's an elite competitor, an elite route runner, can

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Speaker 4: brings a vertical threat like he's a he's a true dude.

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Speaker 4: And then Mike Williams coming in from the chargers. He's

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Speaker 4: calls him seventy thirty balls instead of fifty to fifty

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Speaker 4: slat presence. He can run by anybody. You know Brownie,

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Speaker 4: you know, everybody loves Jason Browne, and he's a developing

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Speaker 4: he really developed well throughout his rookie season. And now

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Speaker 4: adding a guy like Malachi who really excels with the

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Speaker 4: because it's not always the case, but when guys are

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Speaker 4: He can he can make people miss. And the thing,

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Speaker 4: the thing that really jumps off the tape, and it

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Speaker 4: was said a few times by everyone who talked to him,

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Speaker 4: he's he he runs with a vengeance. You know, he's

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Speaker 4: he also can make you miss with his feet and

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Speaker 4: brings a pretty cool element to the room.

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Speaker 2: Does it go on to your decision making on draft weekend?

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Speaker 2: That I know I got a good tackle class. I

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Speaker 2: know I got a good receiver class, but most people

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Speaker 2: thought that wide receiver class more depth extended. Is as

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Speaker 2: far as the way you're looking at.

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Speaker 4: It, yeah, it was a you know, the the top

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Speaker 4: but then the wide out group, you know, you had

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Speaker 4: help their team. And again it was whatever flavor you want.

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Speaker 4: If you want a big, physical guy, there was one

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Speaker 4: of there's a few of those. If you want somebody

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Speaker 4: Malachai that could run after the catch.

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Speaker 1: Let's speaking of flavors. So about the running back position.

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Speaker 2: You pick up pair of big physical guys, guys who

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Speaker 2: aren't afraid of contact, and Alan from Wisconsin of course,

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Davis from South Dakota State.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Addam, Brailan and Isaiah.

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Speaker 4: It just brings legit competition to that room. And now

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Speaker 4: we have four running backs. Breese I don't think Breee

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Speaker 4: and really with Brailan and Isaiah, the unbelievable production from

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Speaker 1: Did Davis play special teams?

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Speaker 2: That's that's a coda state because he's getting a ball

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Speaker 4: His first two years, yeah, he didn't have quite as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the dude.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those numbers were off the charge.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So worst Cup secret in the NFL is you

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Speaker 2: were going to add a developmental quarterback on Day three, right,

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Speaker 2: because you talked about emphasizing, hey, we want this to

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Speaker 2: Then you pick up Tyrod Teller. What attracted you guys

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Speaker 2: to Jordan Travis?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we got to Day three and they

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Speaker 4: were there was a good group of quarterbacks, you know,

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Speaker 4: we were concerned that there'd be another quarterback run there

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Speaker 4: day three and we have we have a group of

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Speaker 4: get someone a dynamic weapon, an unbelievable leader, somebody that's

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Speaker 4: a He came out as a dual threat quarterback. You

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Speaker 4: you watch the table jumps out is he can get

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Speaker 4: out of trouble, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: He's a very athletic quarterback.

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Speaker 4: But to see him operate within the structure of the offense,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine a better situation for a young quarterback,

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Speaker 4: What a great situation. I mean, it's a lot like

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Speaker 3: And just what a.

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Speaker 4: Crazy route to get here, you know, going from Lane

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a really cool story and another

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Speaker 1: How did it work for him?

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Speaker 2: Specifically for you guys, your perspective, a scouting perspective because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he had no doubt about it. What was it

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Speaker 2: So real quickly about East West, I mean the CFO,

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Speaker 1: So he had to show that he could play some

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, You've got there's a lot of moving targets and

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Speaker 3: Before the Paul snapped.

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Speaker 4: That that was another one where you know, him transferring

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Speaker 4: You know, he had to earn everything, and he did.

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Speaker 4: And so again it speaks to his persistence as well.

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Speaker 4: And so just you know, you're getting a smart guy,

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Speaker 2: And he played a lot of positions at two different schools.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think I think for him, he

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Speaker 2: All right, Big picture thoughts, What does it say about

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think it's I think it varies year

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Speaker 3: The quarterback as well.

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Speaker 4: So uh, I think it's part of it's just kind

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Speaker 4: The real strength of the draft this year was playmakers

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Speaker 1: What's up with the trade?

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Speaker 2: Six and all Draft weekend from Joe Douglas. Two up,

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Speaker 2: four down?

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Speaker 1: You like playing poker?

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 1: I guess we can't because we're in the national foot

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Speaker 2: First off, when you move back four times, that means

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 4: I think if we would have gotten to I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Uh, that was unique because just a

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Speaker 4: You have a guy that you're excited to get, be

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Speaker 4: And we feel like that third round pick has a

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Speaker 2: You're setting yourself up for more flexibility in twenty five

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: And people were asking me about the Reddick deal. That's

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Speaker 4: That's a conditional three and twenty six that goes up

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Speaker 3: Fruition, right, but when.

443
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Speaker 4: It did materialize, and it was a real opportunity to say, hey,

444
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Speaker 4: now we've got we have a son Rattick, who's one

445
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Speaker 4: of the most productive pass rushers over the last five

446
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: years I think fifty sacks. So adding a guy that's

447
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Speaker 4: one of the best pass rushers in the nash Football

448
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Speaker 4: League next to Jermaine Johnson and someone we feel is

449
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Speaker 4: going to take that next step similar to Jermaine last

450
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Speaker 4: year with Will McDonald. So now we could have three

451
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Speaker 4: just elite blazers off the edge, guys that can really

452
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 4: really disrupt the edges. And again, you can't. It's it's

453
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Speaker 4: an unfortunate part of the business when you can't, you

454
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Speaker 4: can't take care of everybody.

455
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Speaker 3: And so it was a really.

456
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Speaker 4: Great process, a difficult process for many reasons, but it

457
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Speaker 4: was great in the fact that there's a lot of

458
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 4: communication with JFM leading up to the trade and Cliff Brady,

459
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Speaker 4: his agent, and just open dialogue in terms of getting

460
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Speaker 4: something that made sense for us, but also.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense for JFM. And this is a.

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Speaker 2: Hell of a story though, if you really think about it.

463
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Speaker 2: You grabbed him off of waivers in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so picking him up off the waivers in twenty nineteen.

465
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Speaker 4: We picked up him and our two big acquisitions at

466
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Speaker 4: the cutdown in nineteen were him and Brax and Barrios

467
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Speaker 4: and JFM. You know, just to watch him come in

468
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Speaker 4: And I said it in the presser, like the only

469
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Speaker 4: thing we knew about JFM was he's a talented, talented guy.

470
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Speaker 4: That he had a sack. And see he sacked Tom

471
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Speaker 4: Brady in the Super Bowl when the Rams played the

472
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Speaker 4: Patriots the year before, So all right, this guy's been

473
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Speaker 4: in a big moment.

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Speaker 3: He had a sack.

475
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Speaker 4: And so just watching him, watching him develop as a professional,

476
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Speaker 4: watching getting to know him as a man, watching him

477
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Speaker 4: develop as a father, yeah, you know, and watching his

478
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Speaker 4: family grow. And you know, he really was a truly

479
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: great addition, not only not only on the field, but.

480
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Speaker 3: But off the field. Just a great man.

481
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Speaker 4: So you know, when when you have to make a

482
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Speaker 4: decision like that, it's really hard. It's tough, you know,

483
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 4: because you hate to lose good people. But this is

484
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: this is something that we just felt was was the

485
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 4: right thing to do for the team, and you know,

486
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 4: we we had to do it. And you know, we're

487
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 4: we're excited about excited about the rushers that we have,

488
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 4: and you know we have we feel like we have

489
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 4: some some young guys that can step up, you know,

490
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Speaker 4: and kind of take that that ambassador of violence role

491
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Speaker 4: that at JFM had for a few years here. And

492
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Speaker 4: you know, talk about a guy like Michael Clements, you

493
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Speaker 4: know who's who. This is year three for Mike and

494
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: you know, he's he's developed, that he's gotten better his

495
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 4: first two years here, and it's a great opportunity for

496
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Speaker 4: him to kind of take take that baton from JFM

497
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Speaker 4: and and really really really be the enforcer on our defense.

498
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Speaker 1: It's interesting what you just said about Reddick. We all

499
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Speaker 1: know he's a great finisher.

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Speaker 2: You didn't think there was any chance, like if somebody

501
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Speaker 2: told you in January you're gonna get Redick next year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's probably extremely unlikely.

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Speaker 4: That sounds good now, I probably Honestly, it goes back

504
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: to your earlier question if someone said, hey, you're gonna

505
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Speaker 4: have an opportunity to get Mike Williams Tyra and Morgan

506
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Speaker 4: trade for Morgan Moses and get Hassan before the draft starts.

507
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Speaker 4: I would probably told you you're crazy. Yeah, yeah, I

508
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 4: probably would have.

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Speaker 2: So, Okay, so I got two final ones for you.

510
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Speaker 2: Rookie Minnie camp this weekend. Give me some quick thoughts

511
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Speaker 2: on Michigan Edge Braydon McGregor.

512
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

513
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Speaker 4: So, he obviously national champion and he's a big, physical

514
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 4: enforcer d end. You know, similar to the JFM Big

515
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: Mike Clemmens. You know, big Man powerful was one of

516
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 4: the top players left when we started free agency, and

517
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 4: so you know, we're excited to add that and you can,

518
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: hopefully you can bring that championship mindset to our team.

519
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Speaker 1: Miami defensive tackle Leonard Tayler.

520
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is a supremely talented guy. Big man, really athletic,

521
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: can jump off the ball, he can penetrate gaps. He's

522
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: going to be a really good fit scheme wise for

523
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Speaker 4: what Brick and Aaron want to do up front. And uh,

524
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Speaker 4: he's got a unique opportunity to join a really good

525
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 4: room with with some some great dudes and just be

526
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: their shadow.

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Speaker 1: How about West Points Jimmy Charlow, Yeah.

528
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Speaker 4: My guy, So Jimmy Jimmy came to are our local

529
00:27:55,720 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 4: pro day, you know, and he was It was take

530
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 4: long watching watching the guys go through linebacker drills, like Okay,

531
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: look at this guy. Really good feet, sudden, all motor,

532
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 4: all yeah, just just all motor, you know, run around

533
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 4: the field, just flying around.

534
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Can run. He can run.

535
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 4: And so you watch a little tape and like, okay,

536
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 4: this guy can play, you know, undersized linebacker, you know,

537
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: kind of.

538
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Speaker 3: What we like got.

539
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 4: He plays fast, he plays, he plays furious, like his feet,

540
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 4: he's got some ability in space. He can help out

541
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: on special teams. So and he's an army guy, you know.

542
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 4: And so anytime, anytime we can get a good player

543
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: that's made of the right stuff, you know, that's that's Jimmy,

544
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: and you know, getting them in the getting them in

545
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: my office and spending some time with them. And I

546
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: told him, like they got a new nickname for you.

547
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 4: But Jimmy Chuchu train Jimmy, Jimmy chuch So I'm excited

548
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 4: to Jimmy chouch Uh.

549
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Speaker 2: Not only have you added a lot of guys who

550
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: are productive on the football field, they kill it in

551
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Speaker 2: the weight room, Like this is the guy Jimmy thirty

552
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Speaker 2: four reps to twenty five, we go back to Melchi,

553
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Speaker 2: I think he's twenty seven reps to twenty five, and

554
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: then how about the deadlifts of volu like seven hundred

555
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: pounds three times. Yeah, yeah, those guys. Those guys like working, don't.

556
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Speaker 3: They and adding a little muscle.

557
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, to the to the group, and I mean, geez,

558
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: like Brailan Allen. You see some pictures of him, Yeah, yeah,

559
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: he's a he's a freak. I'd never wear a shirt

560
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: if I if I was cut like him. He's like

561
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: cut out a granite, like he's a He's an impressive,

562
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 4: impressive specimen.

563
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Speaker 2: You're funny, appreciate your time as always, this was fun

564
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: and you got to be excited just for what's ahead.

565
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 2: As far as roster construction, you'll tell me you never

566
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: put a period at the end of the sentence, so

567
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: you're always looking. But you guys have definitely done some further.

568
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Speaker 3: You're moving here the Saw season.

569
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, we had a plan and with

570
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: the help of some great teammates, pro the pro Scouts,

571
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 4: college scouts, salary, cap analytics, I mean everybody, video equipment,

572
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 4: training room doctors, like, we were able to keep the

573
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: main thing the main thing. We've avoided some distractions, left

574
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: ourselves open for some opportunities as they presented themselves. But

575
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 4: you know, a lot of hard work from a lot

576
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 4: of great teammates went into an off season where again

577
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,959
Speaker 4: I feel like we were able to just keep it

578
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 4: simple and stay on track.

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Speaker 3: Thanks E.