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Speaker 1: you're defending AMC South champion. Houston Texans are back for

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Speaker 1: training camp. Fifty yard touchdown roun for DaShan Watson. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Texans Training Camp Live, your sideline pass to everything

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Speaker 1: that's going on with your Houston Texans. Texans Training Camp

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Speaker 1: Live is presented by Academy Sports and Outdoors and by

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Speaker 1: Geico and Papa John's Houston. Now, let's go down to

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Speaker 1: the Houston Methodist Training Center. Here are your hosts, Mark

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Speaker 1: Vandermere and John Harris. All right, let's go across the

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Speaker 1: street n RG Stadium, and that's where we are today

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Speaker 1: the Hotday Texans Radio Studio. As there's no practice, but

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Speaker 1: we've got plenty of audio for a practice, we've got

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Speaker 1: plenty of thoughts. We're gonna take a full time team inventory.

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Speaker 1: John mcclaine's going to join us. The guys, Sean and Seth.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about what ten players you would use to

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Speaker 1: start an NFL team. Well, ten players, the real men

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Speaker 1: reduce it to five and make it difficult. Okay, and

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Speaker 1: by the way, just another reminder to us that air

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Speaker 1: conditioning is one of the greatest inventions ever, maybe the

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Speaker 1: very best. Thank you very much for air conditioning. Just

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Speaker 1: wanted to point that out. Thank you, yes, thank you.

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Speaker 1: After Yesterday was the hottest day of camp by far.

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Speaker 1: It was a real vintage Houston Texans training camp day

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Speaker 1: and good to be inside. They'll be back outside them

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Speaker 1: off for the open practice, the next one, the second

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Speaker 1: open practice, and then Monday, Tuesday, we're live from not

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field, but near it. Don Hudson Training Center, I

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Speaker 1: think is what it's called. Yeah, you would know this

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Speaker 1: It was not called Don Hudson Training Center back then,

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Speaker 1: but I think it was just the Packers practice field.

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Speaker 1: So we'll be somewhere around. How if it's not the

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Speaker 1: bart Star Training Center's a it's a great question. Like

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Speaker 1: everywhere around there, there's like Lombardi Way, Don Hudson Center,

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Speaker 1: Don listen. Don Hudson was a revolutionary at the wide

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Speaker 1: numbers form back in the thirties and forties, he's one

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Speaker 1: one year I think he caught ninety passes. What it

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Speaker 1: who Don Hudson is. He's a Packer receiver from the thirties.

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Speaker 1: He was the greatest. We're gonna have all these opportunities

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Speaker 1: from the atrium at and there's a Packer Hall of

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Speaker 1: so that's very cool. We're doing our top one hundred

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Speaker 1: things that are spoken about relative to your decision to

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Speaker 1: But we won't we won't see I don't think any

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Speaker 1: you got a super Bowl winner. It's a super Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: I mean I could go I could pick four teams

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Speaker 1: like this and they would be top four in the league.

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Speaker 1: No against anybody else they would face. Who else would

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Speaker 1: you add to that five? Well, is not add to

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Speaker 1: the five? But why I think when you when Aaron

429
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Speaker 1: Donald is a guy that you have to have, I

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Speaker 1: think on that D line because and again you can't

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Speaker 1: pick a Texan. So know what, but Aaron Donalds a

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Speaker 1: guy you have to have because he's gonna draw double

433
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Speaker 1: teams and that's gonna create opportunities for whatever average pass

434
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Speaker 1: russert or he's going to destroy you. But I would

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the position groups to this quarterback tackle,

436
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Speaker 1: D line game wrecker or or outside linebacker game wrecker, corner.

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Speaker 1: So what do we have four there? Right? Yeah? Now

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Speaker 1: I pick my fiver. Yeah, A wide receive, Yeah, I

439
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Speaker 1: think wide receivers the way way to go, unless it's

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Speaker 1: an other worldly tight end like a Gronk type talent,

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Speaker 1: and you can maybe talk me into that. But I

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Speaker 1: need a Hopkins. And I'm not allowed to pick Hopkins

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Speaker 1: in this little game, but I need a Hopkins because

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Speaker 1: Hopkins makes everything better. He's you know, he's one of

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Speaker 1: those football players who doesn't play quarterback, who makes other

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Speaker 1: people around him better. Right, there's no question. That's why

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Speaker 1: I picked Julio because the other aspect of all this

448
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Speaker 1: is hop and Julio. Have you ever seen either one

449
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Speaker 1: of them? I'm not getting my touches. I'm not getting

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Speaker 1: the ball, throw me, damn ball. Never ab obj all

451
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Speaker 1: of them, that's every receiver, that's a thing for them,

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Speaker 1: but Julio and Hopkins. It's never been that way. When

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Speaker 1: when you said I gotta think Julio, I was thinking, well,

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Speaker 1: who's next, because there's a lot of talented guys. I

455
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Speaker 1: mean Antonio Brown the talent level, Yeah, all day long,

456
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, some of these other guys like Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 1: I've said that before. I don't think he's in that

458
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Speaker 1: elite group, but I think, but I think he's really solid.

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of guys to pick from.

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Speaker 1: But then you look at all right, but who fits mentally?

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Speaker 1: And wide receivers are interesting folk. They really are. They're

462
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Speaker 1: they're superstars. They're they're the NBA players of the NFL

463
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Speaker 1: in some ways. You know, well, they've all played basketball.

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Speaker 1: And Adam Feelin made a great point on NFL Game Pass.

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Speaker 1: They have these film sessions with players now and I've

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Speaker 1: watched every single one of them and they are really compelling.

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Speaker 1: And theeland was very very good. The luck one wasn't

468
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Speaker 1: great just because he didn't give a lot. He could

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Speaker 1: tell he was holding back, like he's like I'm not

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Speaker 1: doing Theelan was fantastic, and Feeland said, if I didn't

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Speaker 1: play basketball, I'm not a receiver in the NFL. Wow.

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Speaker 1: DeLand doesn't look like the biggest guy in the world,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's bigger than you think and he's faster

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Speaker 1: than you think. But he said, if I don't play basketball,

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Speaker 1: I'm not a receiver. All the great receivers in the

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Speaker 1: NFL play basketball, and you think about It's true. Hopkins

477
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Speaker 1: was a great high school basketball player. Mike Evans was

478
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Speaker 1: a hell of a basketball player in high school at

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Speaker 1: Galveston Ball Theeland talked about being a tremendous basketball player. Uh,

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Speaker 1: those guys, those guys were all great basketball players. So

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Speaker 1: from that perspective, basketball is a huge part of this.

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Speaker 1: You mention you hit it. There are NBA players. Let's

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Speaker 1: get the general on the next and we got to

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Speaker 1: take team inventory. Boy, we didn't get the calumby. Well

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Speaker 1: we will. Look, it's just we're talking a lot. We

486
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Speaker 1: talked too much radio. That's what happens here. Two centenses today, baby,

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Speaker 1: you do what are we doing today? Quarterbacks? Uh, because

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Speaker 1: you're allowed more than two sentences on the quarterbacks. I

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Speaker 1: am yeah, we haven't done the quarterbacks here. Let's say

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks for the end. Let's say the quarterbacks for

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Speaker 1: the tight ends. Let's do running backs. We haven't we've

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Speaker 1: done running backs, did we? Yeah? Together, Yes, yes, tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Let's tight ends today at nine. All right, McClane is next.

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Speaker 1: It's Texans Trady Camp Live. It's Texans Trady Camp Live.

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Speaker 1: A new era of Texans football begins and you're a

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Speaker 1: partner on Jecksons Radio. Back to Texans Training Camp Live. Well,

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Speaker 1: that new era buff works every year, doesn't it. I

498
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Speaker 1: mean that's pretty much every NFL team, As Bill O'Brien says,

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Speaker 1: every year is different. Mark Vandermaern, John Harris inside today. Boy,

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Speaker 1: my throat dropped out at the worst time, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Harris, you went to you went to Johnny Most level. Yes,

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Speaker 1: John Most, We're welcome to the LA Forum. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: be square dancing at a leopard colony. This place is

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Speaker 1: horrible and they are the officials. Not that that right now.

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Speaker 1: If you think Gen Peterson was in favor of the

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Speaker 1: home team, oh my, Johnny Most was ridiculous and it

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Speaker 1: was beautiful. Anyway, let's get to this we're inside today

508
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Speaker 1: because it's an off day for the team, but we're

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Speaker 1: on and we got plenty of good stuff coming your way.

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Speaker 1: It's been a fun conversation so far. We want to

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Speaker 1: take some team inventory with the general. John McClain from

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Speaker 1: the Houston Chronicle. John, good morning, what are you thinking today?

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Speaker 1: For everybody, good morning? And for everybody don't know who

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Speaker 1: Johnny Most is. He was a long time boys of

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Speaker 1: the Celtics. And you did a great Johnny Most. And

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Speaker 1: also I always believe Most and and Myron Cope at

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh were the two most distinct voices, uh in sports

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Speaker 1: and they and they don't have great pipes at all.

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00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: And that's a great thing to point out right there,

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Speaker 1: John and Most is best known for Hamil jackstall the

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Speaker 1: ball and uh, now here's that steale by Bertie passes

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Speaker 1: underneath the DJ lays it up and in and then

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Speaker 1: the one time the ashes felt on his lap during

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Speaker 1: a game and pants were on fire during a game,

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Speaker 1: literally pants, I'm fired during a broadcast, you know the

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Speaker 1: other one I would throw in that mix that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much more, how much longer he's got,

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Speaker 1: but it was a real thrill to hear him on

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Speaker 1: with you last year is Merril Reese. Oh from the Eagles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean in the NFL. He's the guy right now.

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Speaker 1: Van Miller for Buffalo for a long time. Uh and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know before before he stepped away. Uh. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be going for another thirty years, John, if I can,

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Speaker 1: I'll try. I'll try to do it anyway, John tell us.

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Speaker 1: So yesterday they're outside, Uh, we saw some situational work.

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Speaker 1: If felt to us like they might have decided to

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Speaker 1: cut a few things out. It was searing heat, but

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Speaker 1: they got a lot of work. Good work done. What

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Speaker 1: do you think of what you saw yesterday? And where

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Speaker 1: we're at right now over a week into camp. One

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Speaker 1: of the things I love to see. And I know

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Speaker 1: you guys feel the same way as did the fans,

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Speaker 1: because the fans love to say great catches. DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: I wrote about for the day, put on a great

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Speaker 1: show over the middle. One ended on the sideline near

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Speaker 1: the end of practice. When the shot Watson rolled right,

547
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Hopkins adjusted his right and slid in the end Zion

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Speaker 1: and coffee past for a touchdown, and the fans went crazy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves to see that, and Hopkins talked about how

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Speaker 1: much Jack let me get jacked up when the fans

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Speaker 1: are there, and I'm sure all the players think that.

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Speaker 1: And now going to lambeau Field, where there's many, many

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Speaker 1: more fans, I think it'll be even more exciting for them.

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Speaker 1: George Nakins, who continues to impress. He made a gorny

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Speaker 1: catch down the left sideline with Justin Reid all over him.

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Speaker 1: The marry of Crockett the running back. He keeps kind

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Speaker 1: of separating himself from the backup pack, competing for that

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Speaker 1: third job. At least he looks like he does. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see what he does in the practices

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Speaker 1: and in the preseason game, because you know he and

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Speaker 1: chranigg and are going to get a lot of carries

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Speaker 1: into game. And so it's been fine, Well, yea one

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Speaker 1: more practice with the Texans at Houston Methodist Training Center

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Speaker 1: and then we go to Green Bay the Cathedral for two.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited, especially watching the pass rushers go against

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Speaker 1: the pass protectors and the Texans pass protectors going against

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Speaker 1: the Packers pass rushers. John, what's your gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: about Deontay Foreman's usage level over the next week in

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Speaker 1: Green Bay? And the two practices and mainly the preseason game.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think we'll see Yon there because

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Speaker 1: you mentioned two guys that need to get carries, because

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Speaker 1: I gotta figure out what they've gotten those two rookies.

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Speaker 1: How much do you think we'll see foreman in the

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Speaker 1: preseason games? Especially this I'm guessing we're not gonna see

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Speaker 1: Miller much. Maybe they walk Miller in there if they

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Speaker 1: play Watson first blocking, and that's something that's crucial the

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Speaker 1: foreman is being able to protect Watson when he's required

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Speaker 1: to do so. But he needs he needs to get hit.

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Speaker 1: He needs to hit people. Legitimately, he needs to get hit.

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Speaker 1: Last year he was just you know, he got a

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Speaker 1: few carries, didn't do anything. You can tell he'd been

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Speaker 1: off a long time. This is a crucial training camp

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Speaker 1: in pre season for him to solidify that backup job.

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Speaker 1: And it starts in Green Bay. John, these joint practices,

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Speaker 1: what else are you looking forward to seeing? Like, what's

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Speaker 1: the first thing you're gonna be observing when they go

587
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Speaker 1: live in pads with another NFL squad? Now Watson and

588
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Speaker 1: Rodgers can't get hurt, of course, and I've been very

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Speaker 1: impressed with a Jay McCarron. You know, watching him roll

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Speaker 1: out flick balls at the coast minute, he's accurate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's picked up this offfense really well. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: had different offenses now, he had two. Last year he

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Speaker 1: was at Buffalo, had one preseason game where he threw

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Speaker 1: three touchdown passes and no interceptions, and they traded into

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Speaker 1: Oakland and he didn't get to play hardly at all

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Speaker 1: behind Derek Carr. But I think he has done a

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Speaker 1: terrific job in the role they want, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get a lot of time to play in preseason. And

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Speaker 1: one reason a quarterback signs one year contract is to

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Speaker 1: get as much as he can on tape to help

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Speaker 1: him for the next job. And so we know what

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Speaker 1: they got in Watson, but rodging mccaron and seeing how

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Speaker 1: good he can be in this role is going to

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Speaker 1: be important. And the cornerbacks and the safeties going against

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Speaker 1: the Packers receivers when Aaron Rodgers is throwing, we'll tell

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Speaker 1: us a lot about the work and where they are

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Speaker 1: right now. I think the three of us agreed it

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Speaker 1: won't be as surprised they don't end up bringing in

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Speaker 1: another corner Hey, John you've worked on and I know

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Speaker 1: you're working on an article about Aaron Rodgers impact on

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Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson. And when Deshaun was a rookie, the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff showed him a lot of Aaron Rodgers film. What

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Speaker 1: did you take out of kind of doing that research

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Speaker 1: and the value of Aaron Rodgers and his film to

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson his progress as a quarterback. I remember Sean Ryan,

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Speaker 1: a former quarterback coach, saying that part of the development

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Speaker 1: of Watson and was to show him some tape of

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Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks and how they avoided the rush, about how

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Speaker 1: they would throw the ball away and the thing they

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Speaker 1: way ask him, will have who's who if you focused

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Speaker 1: on the most, and he said Aaron Rodgers, because Rogers

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Speaker 1: is just about to maybe the best and moving around

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Speaker 1: to Alloyd the rush and buying time, but keeping his

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Speaker 1: eyes down the field, and at the last possible instant,

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Speaker 1: Rogers will flick the ball because you know he's got

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Speaker 1: a good arm and he will buire the ball. And

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Speaker 1: the defense always always has to worry about that. And

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Speaker 1: because the defense has to worry about that, they have

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Speaker 1: to kind of stay on their heels rather than the toes.

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Speaker 1: When they're chasing him and that's a big part of

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Speaker 1: the defensive game plan and watching talked about how much

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Speaker 1: watching that tape and now he's eager to get up

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Speaker 1: there and talk to Rogers like he did Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: two years ago in West Virginia during those two days

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Speaker 1: of practices, and to just watch him work. He said,

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Speaker 1: he's gotten to know Rogers a little bit, and that's

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Speaker 1: somebody admires. And he said, he said, hopefully in a

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Speaker 1: few years, I'll be where he is, and I mean

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner and MVP and one of the Hives

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Speaker 1: Bay quarterbacks in history. John mcclant joining us on Texas

641
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Speaker 1: training camp. Live are inside today. No practice today for

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Speaker 1: the team, but we move on and the team will

643
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: practice with an open session on Saturday tomorrow and then

644
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: head to Green Bay for open practices with them near

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Speaker 1: lambeau Field Monday and Tuesday. General, did you watch the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game last night? What did you think?

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Speaker 1: If you did? Your thoughts on some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: you saw and the way the Hall of Fame conducts

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Speaker 1: this weekend now versus years past. Well, I did not

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Speaker 1: watch it. The last thing I want to see is

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Speaker 1: a bad football game. I am more interested. I am

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Speaker 1: more interested in the the Hall of Fame Indugson because

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Speaker 1: I had a vote. I can't wait to see the guys,

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Speaker 1: but I'm more interested in that. I'm also interested in

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Speaker 1: the centennial class that's going to be voted in with

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Speaker 1: ten seniors, three contributors, and two coaches. Interesting. Yeah, John

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Speaker 1: McClain joining us from the Houston Chronicle. John, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about this just a little while ago with the

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Speaker 1: NFL what he called the NFL I can't remember what

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Speaker 1: it was called. And not top ten, NFL ten, NFL

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Speaker 1: ten point either way. The ESPN did this poll where

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Speaker 1: they picked ten players at any position you want. They

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Speaker 1: picked ten players and for the next three years, you

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Speaker 1: try to maximize value for the next three years, so

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Speaker 1: you get to pick any ten players you want, and

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Speaker 1: everybody else's a replaceable, sort of average type player. And

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Speaker 1: Mark and I were pretty consistent about the players that

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Speaker 1: we picked. And at quarterback, obviously you want to start

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Speaker 1: with the quarterback. Patrick Mahomes was to pick I think

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Speaker 1: of fifty three different ballots. If I told you, for

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Speaker 1: the next three years, you've got to pick a quarterback

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Speaker 1: to be that guy, and you can't pick Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: or to Shaun Watson, because we're not picking any Texans.

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Speaker 1: Who would you pick for three years? And I couldn't

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Speaker 1: take Patrick my Homes. Let me think Aaron Rodgers was

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Speaker 1: to play into his forties, and I know you guys

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00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: are looking for a young one, and I wouldn't pick

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Speaker 1: somebody from last year, and boys, that is a tough

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Speaker 1: one for three years. I think I would take Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers because I do believe, like Tom Brady and Drew

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00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: Bradzy's gonna play in to his forty I just think

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00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: times have changed. Health is different, healthcare is different. And

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Speaker 1: after watching Mick Jagger on Saturday Night at seventy six

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Speaker 1: years old move around the stage and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid that's gonna be Brady. Is that what you're problem.

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00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm afraid it's gonna Beyna. Say you know what, I'm

687
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: gonna go till I'm seventy five and just torture me.

688
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: The voice of the Texans. I think he's just doing

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Speaker 1: it to me. Just torture me as as long as possible.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Jagger, this is a little inside scoop here.

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Speaker 1: He was doing sprints in the loading dock before he

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Speaker 1: went on stage to get himself ready. Whoa sprints Jagger

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Speaker 1: seventy six ready to rock? Maybe I need to get

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Speaker 1: to get his blood going and get ready for the show.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty impressive stuff. But by my point is this

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Speaker 1: health has changed. You know, fifty is the new forty

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Speaker 1: fifty five. I say fifty five is the new thirty five. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's how I do it. Yeah, but we can still

699
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: over this kind of thing. Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure,

700
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Speaker 1: but things have change. These guys are playing more long

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00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Federer at WIMB I'm thinking, how is this possible? Yeah?

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00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: How is it possible? Speaking of how is it possible?

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Speaker 1: John Trent Williams has There's been a lot of noise

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Speaker 1: around Trent Williams and then it gets quiet, and it's

705
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: been quiet for a little bit. How do you think

706
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Speaker 1: this situation plays out? Mainly, what do you think the

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Speaker 1: timetable is John for Trent Williams And ultimately do you

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Speaker 1: think that he will be traded from Washington? Do you

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna hold out and then wait for a

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Speaker 1: deal on it to the season. How do you think

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Speaker 1: that whole thing plays out with Trent Williams up in Washington. Well,

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Speaker 1: I know he's not coming here. They like, uh oh,

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Speaker 1: and Williams the problem you've got wait wait, John, you

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Speaker 1: dropped out there for a moment, So repeat that you

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Speaker 1: know he's not coming here. Repeat that whole sentence because

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Speaker 1: it dropped out. He won't be coming here. They like

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00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Matt Khalil what they've seen so far, and Titus Howard.

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Speaker 1: And the problem with Williams is he's had a health scare,

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00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: injury issues, has missed quite a few games the last

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Speaker 1: two seasons, and he, according to the Redskins, he wants

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Speaker 1: a new contract. I think he's twenty nine, and I

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Speaker 1: don't see it depends. I think they would have to

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Speaker 1: agree to trade him, and then a team would have

724
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Speaker 1: to work out a new contract. Maybe he'd do like

725
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Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown, play one season and then get a new one.

726
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Speaker 1: But there are health issues involving him in age, and

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Speaker 1: I think that they'd have a lot better chance of

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Speaker 1: trading him if he was happy with his contract. I

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00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: believe he's seventh among left tackles, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of bad blood created between him and Washington, and he

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Speaker 1: sounds like and players can say this now that he's

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Speaker 1: gonna miss a regular season games. But a lot of

733
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: guys can talk about it, but very few actually do it.

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown was one, but I don't know how he

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Speaker 1: could go back to Washington. They signed Donald pen to

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Speaker 1: take his place, and Penn is a poor to a

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Speaker 1: placement for Trent Williams when Williams is helping, and so

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing at some point they're going to trade him

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Speaker 1: and and not get anywhere near what he would be

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Speaker 1: worth to them. John, what do you have going out

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Speaker 1: of the Houston Chronicle. Well, I'm doing that story on

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Speaker 1: Wason and Rodgers for Sunday. I've got a mailbag about

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Speaker 1: the Texans that'll be posted on Texas Sports Nation this morning,

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Speaker 1: and then I will have five takeaways from Texas Texans

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Speaker 1: training camp this morning. Thank you guys for asking. Thank

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Speaker 1: you John. John mcclaim from the Houston Chronicle joining us

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00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: on Texas Training Camp Live. You know, Johnny, I'm going

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Speaker 1: over the roster here. We're gonna take team inventory. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going over the roster and I need your

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Speaker 1: help on a bull of things here. And as I

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00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: look at this, you know, we still go back to

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00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 1: the two big position groups that We've been talking about

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00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: all off season about offensive line and the secondary, but

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Speaker 1: I think right now it's safe to say we are

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00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: still dealing with some mysterious stuff to us anyway. Maybe

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00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: they have it all figured out upstairs. I'm not sure,

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00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: but the cornerback position the old line, because I feel

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00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: really good about safety right now, but I say, yeah,

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00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: feel okay. I don't feel like it's six deep. I

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00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: feel like it's four and it's a good four so

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00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: that I'm not sure how they see it, but that's

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Speaker 1: how I feel right now. And I think at corner

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Speaker 1: if every you know, we're still in a if everything

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Speaker 1: works out, could be really good kind of stage, but

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Speaker 1: we don't know if it's gonna work out, and there's

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Speaker 1: some questions there. I'll go one further. I feel okay

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Speaker 1: about safety and interior O line, center, guard, Okay, I

768
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: actually feel okay about those three. With those three position,

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Speaker 1: right guard, center, and left guard, I feel okay about

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00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: those positions and safety. So it comes down to the edges,

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Speaker 1: the two tackle. I relate it to that, and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna break down the tight ends. That's the position group

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Speaker 1: of the day that's coming up next. And at nine twenty,

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00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: we'll finally have Peter Callum bye yes because he's no,

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00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: he's not late. We just haven't run the interview yet.

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00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 1: But it's really cool. It's fun stuff with Drew and

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00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Landry's questions as well, which is something

778
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: everybody looks forward to every day on Texans Training Camp Live.

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00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: And by everybody, I mean at least me, and I

780
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: think a lot more people than that. Actually it's Texans

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Speaker 1: Training Camp Live, Training Cap Live, This training cap. Texans

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Speaker 1: Training Camp is underway. Get all the breaking news, updates,

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Speaker 1: interviews and more right now at Houston Texans dot com.

784
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Speaker 1: Now back to Texans Training Camp Live, presented by Academy

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Speaker 1: Sports and Outdoors Geico and by Papa Johns Houston. I

786
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: hear that in the background there, yeah, there. It is

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00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: not that I make that noise ever, but I do

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00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: before I get on the air. That's my warm up noise.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it. It's not exactly the same. Arian,

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00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: all right, So I did I need this inside baseball stuff?

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Speaker 1: But I do do that sometimes just to like warm

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00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: up I go. So that's my thing, right, And I

793
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: did that once before the Arian Fosters Show. This is

794
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: back in twenty twelve when we did that show and

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Speaker 1: he said, oh, what is that a machine gun or something,

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Speaker 1: because that's a you know, a rapper thing like that.

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00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: That means, you know, you're you're hosing people downright, ak,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's not what It's not why I

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Speaker 1: do it. So we had this whole discussion and get

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Speaker 1: a lot just by you know, he wanted to take

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Speaker 1: me shopping because you know, it's a disaster. I guess

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00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: he wanted to do that, you know, just to kind

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00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: of freshen up my look. Never really happened, but but

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Speaker 1: it was a good show. It was. I mean, that

805
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 1: was a legendary show. It really was. It was good

806
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays. By the way, we're gonna be back at

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Speaker 1: food Ruckers on Tuesday's starting with the regular season opening week,

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00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: will be at food Ruckers. Will rotate fifty nine Greenway,

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00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: We'll go down to Stafford, we'll go over to the

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Speaker 1: West Side near Memorial. We'll do that one with Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Joseph so he said he'd be on. We got DJ Reader,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Dunn, Wendy Merciless, some players to be named later.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna rotate. It's gonna be fun. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: get to a position group breakdown right now, Johnny, as

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Speaker 1: we talk about the tight ends. This is not gonna

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Speaker 1: take a ton of time here because they're not a

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Speaker 1: ton of tight ends. But it's fun to discuss this

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Speaker 1: because this is an intriguing group. You lost Ryan Griffin,

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Speaker 1: lost him, you know, say goodbye to Ryan Griffin, and

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00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: he was the guy going into last year. You drafted

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Speaker 1: two guys in the third round, and let's start with

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Speaker 1: one of them who's a little nicked up right now.

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Speaker 1: But doctor VanderMeer says, it's not gonna take too long.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas. Let's get him back on the field. He

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00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: was doing some amazing things before he went down, and

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Speaker 1: he's the kind of guy that you can do so

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Speaker 1: much with and obviously Deshaun like throwing to him. He

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Speaker 1: had four touchdowns last year. That was the he had

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Speaker 1: all the touchdowns in the tight end group of just

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Speaker 1: four yea, so he had he account of problem. I

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Speaker 1: think they'll have more than that this year, just kind

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Speaker 1: of based on watching them early. The talent that's there.

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00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: But he could do anything on a football field that

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Speaker 1: you want him to. I mean, you want to you

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Speaker 1: want to flex him out wide, go one on one

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Speaker 1: on a linebacker or even a safety. He'll win that.

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Speaker 1: He's got great hands, He's a tremendous athlete. He's gotta

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Speaker 1: get himself healthy to get back. What about the blocking

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Speaker 1: part of the game. It's gotta get better. It's gotta

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Speaker 1: get better. And the interesting part of this Mark I

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00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: felt like early or middle of the season. I think

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Speaker 1: it was middle of the season. I felt like he

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Speaker 1: was doing a really good job. I feel like Man's

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Speaker 1: this is coming along a little bit faster than I expected.

845
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: I feel like at the end of the season it

846
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: started to fall off a little bit, and then you

847
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: think about, look, you guys, a rookie, he's a sixth rounder.

848
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: That's when things get a little They get tough at

849
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: the end. Hit the rookie wall a little bit. For

850
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: any rookie, it's exhausted, so tough, and I wasn't totally

851
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: surprised that happened. I thought he was blocking pretty well

852
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: from the you know, the middle of the season. It

853
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: felt like it was clicking for him, but then it

854
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: kind of hit a wall at the end of the year.

855
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: So getting him back is vitally important to this group.

856
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: It's not as if if you don't have him you're

857
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: completely lost, which that's been the case in other years.

858
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: Like man, if you don't have Ryan Griffin or you

859
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: don't have C. J. Fnorwitz, well you're gonna be just

860
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: lost at tight end if you don't have Jordan Thomas.

861
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: You've got pretty good depth that I have positioned and

862
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: I think is one of the deeper ones on the team.

863
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: All right, the other Jordan we talk about the Jordans.

864
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: Jordan Aikins has put on some shows here at training camp.

865
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Now it's in the content next of you don't want

866
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: to be mister August, okay, but you do want to

867
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: look good. And in the preseason opener last year, he

868
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: caught two tds against the Chiefs at Arrowhead. Well, I'll

869
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: take that again this year in the regular season, please,

870
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: But he caught two tds and so he flashed. But

871
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: during the regular season it just he made some catches,

872
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: made some plays. We all know about the one against Philadelphia.

873
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: I think he's taken so far in the context of

874
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: camp that year one to year or two, jump am,

875
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: I right, absolutely, And I think one of the things

876
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: about him is he is a true professional and he

877
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: got a great look at professional life when he was

878
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: playing Major League baseball and then he went to UCF.

879
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: He was in a very discipline program with Scott Frost.

880
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: He played a little bit of wide receiver. He played.

881
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: He was a mismatch nightmare for guys at UCF, and

882
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I think that's what they want to get back to

883
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: with him, is creating mismatches down the field. And that's

884
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: really what he's done. If you cover him with the

885
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: wrong guy here, DeShawn just all day pick at you right.

886
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: So he he's caught everything, He's made every play. Now

887
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: it's a matter of transitioning that into regular season play.

888
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: Can he be a guy that catches four or five

889
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: passes for you during a game? Will you target him

890
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: five six times in a game, depending on what George

891
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: Thomas's health is, how many times total? Will you target

892
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: the tight ends? Now, I get some teams you may

893
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: want to get the ball out fast, tight ends gonna

894
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: get targeted. But I just think the understanding of the

895
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: offense too is Key and Jordan Nakins. Because we've seen

896
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: him for a longer stretch here, you can tell that

897
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: he's got a really good feel for running routes, getting

898
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: himself open, knowing what the offense is, being on the

899
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: same page with the Shawn, knowing where he needs to

900
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: be to get open, and maybe the route calls you

901
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: know you're gonna work. You're gonna work fifteen back to twelve.

902
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: With this route, he can kind of feel it out

903
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: a little bit more, kind of like I'm getting to

904
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: this open spot, or I got man coverage, so I

905
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: gotta run to this spot. He has a better feel

906
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: for that, and I think that's gonna make him a

907
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: better overall weapon. Very cool stuff breaking down of the

908
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: tight end position group here. Let's dig deep now we'll

909
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: get to the rookies in a moment. But what about

910
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: Darren Fells, the salty vet who played professional basketball overseas,

911
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: many countries, many organizations. He seasoned in the NFL. He's

912
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: out here trying to make this roster. It's a tight

913
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: competition at tight end. What do you think. I think

914
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: you have to have him? And Wow, I think you

915
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 1: have to have him. I want to win my bet

916
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: with McClane that they take four tight ends on the roster. Now,

917
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: I think you have to. I think you have to

918
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: have him Mark because he is more than just a

919
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: tight end. First of all, he calls himself a left

920
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: left tack or a right right tackle because left left

921
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: he I'm just to the left of the left. Yeah.

922
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: He basically he's trying to say, look, I'm not the

923
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 1: traditional tight end because he passed for texts really well.

924
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, he passed protects really really well. So

925
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: the one thing that they've actually done a lot with him,

926
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: especially with JT being out, is throw the wall to him. Yeah,

927
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: and you'd think, hey, look he's a basketball player. He's

928
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: got good hands. There was one day where he had

929
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: a couple of drops. You could tell it was kind

930
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 1: of eat him up, but he bounced back. The next day.

931
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: I saw him working with Will Long working on everything.

932
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: I saw him yesterday working one of the coolest drills

933
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: I've seen. He was working with Will and Will's coaching

934
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: the tight ends, and I've never seen this. So Fells

935
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 1: was standing there and Will would have the ball in

936
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: his hand and he would just he would just let

937
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: it come out of his hands like he almost tossed

938
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: it just a little bit. Yeah, but it's just like

939
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: a little bit where it's coming back to you like

940
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like walking on the hallway or

941
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: just kind of toss the football up in the air

942
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: and he would force Fells to grab it while he

943
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: was in the air, but at the same time Will

944
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: would try and grab it away from him, and it

945
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: was really kind of cool. So Will would kind of

946
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: tossed up in the air for just just a little

947
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: bit of air and fellas have to snatch it and

948
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: then pull it away. And it's a great drill for

949
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: tight end because there's so much trash on him. But

950
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: other than that day, he's I think he's caught it

951
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: pretty well. But I think the true measure of him

952
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: will will be seen when we get to Green Bay

953
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: where he can show off that blocking prowess where he

954
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: can protect as that left left tackle and reception right exactly.

955
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. This still, when you look

956
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: at this offense, there's a possibility of having Ty's Howard

957
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: and mass Sharping on the line of scrimmage. Those are

958
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: two rookies, having some young guys online of scrimmage, and

959
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: even if you play let's say Seantrewe Henderson wins the

960
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: right tackle job, he hasn't started a lot in the NFL.

961
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 1: Having a guy like Fells next to him to be

962
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: able to say, all right, young fellow, this is you know, look,

963
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: this is where we need to be, this is what

964
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: we need to do, this is how we need to

965
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: go about it. Lander Locker tweet out a great video

966
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: of Fells from last year. Baker Mayfield had scrambled out

967
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: of the pocket and instead of just running out of bounds,

968
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: he'd lowered his shoulder and tried to run over a linebacker,

969
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: remember back or whatever. Fells got him on the sideline

970
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: and said, look, we need you just just go out

971
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: of bounced. Just drop Cleveland right. He's like, drop the pride.

972
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 1: We don't need you. We need you on the field.

973
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: We need you throwing it slide or go out of bounds.

974
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: And Baker tried to start it to kind of like yah,

975
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm a competitor and Fels was like no, yeah. And

976
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: it was great because it really showed the veteran presence

977
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 1: he had, very calm under control. But you also saw

978
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: the respect and I got like Baker Mayfield had for

979
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: Darren Fells, and that's like I think this group will

980
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 1: have for Darren Fells. And I think he's he's got

981
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: to be able to make it and gonna make it.

982
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: Just if you gotta keep four. I think you keep four.

983
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: It's the most talented and deepest group that you've had

984
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: it tighty in a long time. I like Fells, and

985
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: we interviewed him here in this studio. I think Jordan

986
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: Thomas has to be a great blocker, yes, in order

987
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: to make it. So maybe I don't want to say

988
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: you don't need Fells, but that might be a way

989
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: to not have him on the squad, you know, And

990
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: we'll see how they handle that, because you know, ideally

991
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to have to keep four tight ens, right,

992
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: they might have to with the old line situation the

993
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: way it is, and you might and we'll see how

994
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: they handle that, all right. Jarrell Adams quick note on him.

995
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: He's caught everything thrown his way. He's actually had a

996
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: really really good camp. He you know, there's always a

997
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: tight ending camp and not necessarily that's gonna make the team,

998
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: but that catches everything and you're like, oh my gosh,

999
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: what about this guy? And he maybe he makes it,

1000
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't. And he's telling everybody about it too,

1001
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: which is great. In the bubble. He was telling everybody

1002
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: about it, which is pretty awesome. I liked him coming

1003
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: out of South Carolina. I thought he would stick somewhere.

1004
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: It just really really hasn't. It's just gonna be a

1005
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: hard nut to crack. If we're thinking, okay, four is

1006
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 1: a stretch, Yeah, then but I think you can play football.

1007
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: Look if you're in a pitch where couple of these

1008
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: guys are hurting droll Adam said, it'll be your third

1009
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: tight end, I'd live with it. Well why not? And

1010
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: you have live with it? Absolutely, Banks everybody better wearing.

1011
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: Just got back on the field and we played the

1012
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: cut from Bill O'Brien yesterday. That was just kind of

1013
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: entertaining because you know, he's just taking the rookie down.

1014
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: You gotta get out on the field, gotta hydrate. You know.

1015
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: It was the NFI List, right, So he got injured

1016
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: working out or something. You don't even know what the story,

1017
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 1: But the point is he's back out there. Now, what

1018
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, And I don't think he's at

1019
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, to be honest, just watching him, I

1020
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: could tell the first day like, Okay, he's still struggling

1021
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: with whatever it was. He's still struggling out with a

1022
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: little bit. But he knows he needs to get on

1023
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: the field. He's not a guy you worry about, like

1024
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: look at him. I mean, he's in shape, he works out.

1025
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: There's not a concern. The only thing you worry about

1026
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: with Khali in some sense is he hasn't played a

1027
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 1: ton of football right, so he's only played tight end

1028
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: for a short amount of time. Now he soaks in

1029
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: everything he can get at the tight end position. Tep

1030
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: he talked about the other day. He told us a

1031
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 1: draft night, He's like, I watched tight ends. I study

1032
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: tight ends, like that's what I do in my off time.

1033
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: And he's got that athletic ability. He does a lot

1034
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: of different things. Big, strong, he can block. I mean

1035
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: he was used as a y in line tight end

1036
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: at San Diego State. So his best football is ahead

1037
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: of him. Hopefully this whatever four or five days stretch

1038
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,760
Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't Curtaila's whole rookie. I don't think it will.

1039
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: But now he's on the field, if he can stay

1040
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: in the field and make an impression these preseason games,

1041
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really tough to keep him off the

1042
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,439
Speaker 1: field because of how athletic he is. And you're gonna

1043
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: just get to a point where you're like throw wearing.

1044
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: You know, Ohbi will say, find me a play for

1045
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: hop Give me a play for hopkers I want. That's

1046
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: how coaches are. They're just like, get the ball to

1047
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: Wearing whatever. I don't throw him up, give him a handoff.

1048
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't care. Get the ball to eighty one. I

1049
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: think it's we're gonna get to that point with him

1050
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: that you're gonna want the ball in eight. Well, let's

1051
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: see how that shakes out, because you are counting on him, yes,

1052
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: being a third round draft choice, you're counting on him

1053
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: to make an impression and contribute. And we'll see how

1054
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: that all plays out. We got him, we got him all.

1055
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: That's everybody. Everybody at tight end. Now, Colin Glassbey won't

1056
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: line up at tight end, but he might do some

1057
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: of the things that Jordan Aikens did last year. Stuff, Yeah,

1058
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: the h back stuff where he'd line up as a sniff.

1059
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 1: I think he's got to Johnny. He's obviously he's got

1060
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: to shine on special teams, yes, but he's got to

1061
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: be able to do some other things that would be

1062
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: handy if you will, at the line of scrimmage, whether

1063
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: it's h back, fullback, running back. Whatever he's and you

1064
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: mentioned his pass protection ability, that's going to really help him.

1065
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: So he's one of those guys who's got to be

1066
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: able to bounce between position groups and be outstanding on

1067
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: special teams. Do you know what I would do now,

1068
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on. I put put Glass at tailback,

1069
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: a tailback. I put him at tailback, and then I'd

1070
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: find my one lineman that's not playing, maybe Reader, take

1071
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Reader and put him in front of Glass beyond goal

1072
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: on go three tight go three tight ends love this,

1073
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: put it on the tight ends and put Reader at

1074
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: fullback and put Glass be at here. And now you

1075
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: throw the reader, okay til yeah yeah, or you or

1076
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: you shift the seaun out wide. You go to a

1077
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: wildcat and Reader takes a snap, and why, oh my gosh,

1078
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: this place would emplow the Houston Special load. I'm saving it.

1079
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm saving it from February in Miami Houston Special. His

1080
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: place would go crazy. We need a name, we need

1081
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: a name, Houston barbecues. Well, you have to. If it

1082
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,399
Speaker 1: were Reader to Watson, it would have to be something

1083
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: with tigers. Oh yeah, I mean it would have to

1084
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: be right, you're right, something with tigers Okay, we'll come

1085
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: up with something. I'm gonna go draw it up and

1086
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: give that to coach after this. All right, what's Dbcity

1087
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: working on. We're gonna find out what's land Locker working

1088
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: on with this questions always entertaining. That's in the final

1089
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 1: segment and Peter callum Bay it's all coming up. Texans

1090
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Training CAB Live, Texans Training CAB Live, Texans Training. Texans

1091
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: Radio is a training camp. Welcome back to Texans Training

1092
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: Camp Live. So John Lopez texted me because we were

1093
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: talking about that goal line set of having Glaspia at tailback.

1094
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: They didn't do this, by the way, this is us

1095
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: coming up with this, So the coach is always monitor

1096
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: the show to get ideas from us. Glaspia tailback and

1097
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: welcome Dpcity WITHO the show to tailback and then DJ

1098
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: Reader at fullback with three tight ends, with three tight

1099
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: ends and and Lopez said, you called that the twelfth Man,

1100
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: but I'm worried about copyright infringement, and you knows go

1101
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: after their copyrighting. They do, they do. I'm gonna get

1102
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: a seasoned assist from college station. Yeah exactly. I mean

1103
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: it's just not gonna go well. So we got to

1104
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: call it something else. I mean, that's that's my opinion. Anyway,

1105
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: who'd you talk to you yesterday? I talked too. I

1106
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: had not I had met with him in the office.

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00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: So his uncle is the president or was of Liberia.

1108
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: Liberia was elected in twenty seventeen. I actually saw this

1109
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: and and he's asked about this all the time. And

1110
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: I love the question. You asked him about it because

1111
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: it threw him a curveball and he liked it. It

1112
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: wasn't the usual guy tell us about Liberia and your

1113
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: uncle be you know, it wasn't that. It was a

1114
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: nice curve And I'm just gonna tease it that way.

1115
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: And we'll run it tonight on the program Texans All

1116
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: Acts Us that air six to seven, five nights a week,

1117
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: and you can see it on Houston Texans dot com

1118
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: if you want to sneak it before that. It's presented Viceffinity.

1119
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. His family, his family comes from a long

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00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: line of soccer players. They that same uncle played for

1121
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: AC Milan and he was a midfielder, and then his cousin,

1122
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: his cousin Tim was on the US men's national team.

1123
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: That is no joke, no joke and then goes into

1124
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: politics just runs for He was I think a senator

1125
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: and then became president. But he took a path into politics.

1126
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: And I asked Jester about soccer, like, why not soccer

1127
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: but he's very tall. He said that he I didn't

1128
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: realize that you you could outgrow soccer, like you could

1129
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: be too big for soccer. It's weird when you see

1130
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: guys that are because I watched the real Madrid Bayern

1131
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: Munich match my son went, which was it was a

1132
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: huge step for him and he loved it. We had

1133
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: a great time. But there was a player I believe

1134
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: it was for Byron, and he was he was big,

1135
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: he was tall, and I was like, he looked out

1136
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: of place. Yeah, he just looked out of place. Now

1137
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: the keepers are all six three six four, Yeah, they

1138
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: gott have the wingspan, so that that makes sense. But

1139
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're one of the other you're one

1140
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: of the other ten, I would think, you know, quickness, agility,

1141
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: that kind of thing which just your has, but you

1142
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: probably grow out of that sport. I could see some

1143
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: I could see some some of that being the case back. Yeah,

1144
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean I could see some of that being the

1145
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: case that kind of grow out of it. But then again,

1146
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of fall in love with the

1147
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: other football, our football, and he's done that and he's

1148
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: gotten to the NFL. It's funny how athletes in different

1149
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: sports and the size differential. You know, at the Houston

1150
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: Sports Awards the first year, I was right next to

1151
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: all twove And when you're next to Josale two day,

1152
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: like in street clothes, you just cannot believe how diminutive

1153
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: he is and what he's able to go. And you know,

1154
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: Carlos Corea visited training camp once and this is like

1155
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: two three four years ago, I think was it Hard

1156
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Knocks fifteen four years ago? And Carlos Carey, you know,

1157
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: you see him on TV and everything and you're in

1158
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: the stands and it's like that that's a pretty big guy,

1159
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: you know whatever, And he's trainy compared to these guys,

1160
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, especially in pads, it's just a different it's

1161
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: a different different, different sort of athleticism, different body type

1162
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: you need to survive in the sport. Yeah, there's no

1163
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: doubt the NBA players go the other way. Like you

1164
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: see NBA players on TV and you're like, all right, okay,

1165
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: that guy's you see a point guard and you're like, okay,

1166
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 1: he's the smallest guy, five eight, and then he walks

1167
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: in he's like three inches tard and you're like, oh

1168
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: my god, you're six three. You know, I mean that

1169
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: it minimizes it. But Jester is this is a this

1170
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: is a great competition a wide receiver. I mean, we

1171
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 1: know the top three and Vincent Smith I think has

1172
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: had a really good, really good camp. Tyron Johnson is

1173
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 1: a guy that a lot of people, like Jester were

1174
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 1: was a guy that the coaches really like last year

1175
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 1: and I I'm kind of lost. And you know, we

1176
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: talked about tight ends earlier, like you carry four tight ends.

1177
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: If you carry four tight ends, does that mean you

1178
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: carry five wide receivers instead of six? What are we

1179
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 1: doing this show? When's our fifth three show? It can't

1180
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 1: We got to go through the first preseason game. First.

1181
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: Let's go through the first preseason game, and then then

1182
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: our fifty three show will be Sometimes I'm doing the

1183
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: fifty three just for myself. Here does your own version

1184
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,919
Speaker 1: of the Monster? Yeah, I already have it down here

1185
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: and there are you know, I've got about four or

1186
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: five interesting areas where it's it's tough, and obviously injuries

1187
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: are going to play a part here. And I hate

1188
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: to say that because knockwood, knock everything, knock whatever you're near.

1189
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: They've been relatively good in this this important area of football.

1190
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: It seems like every preseason there are some major injuries

1191
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. But I wrote a story about it

1192
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: on Houston Texans dot com about the depth behind the

1193
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: top three Hopkins, Fuller qt that competition there for that

1194
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: final spot, because we also had DeAndre Carter who came

1195
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: in last year did some nice things, but we haven't

1196
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: seen him out there because he's been placed on. Vandermayer

1197
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: says he's close. I feel like if he's close and

1198
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: he comes back, then is that it and Vincent Smith

1199
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 1: and you're done? Or does somebody else sort of make

1200
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: this push in training camp with all the reps they're getting,

1201
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: the number is five to me, I think that's what

1202
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: it's going to turn out to be. And I think

1203
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: Vincent Smith is having the kind of camp that's gonna

1204
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: make it extremely difficult for him to not be on

1205
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: the roster. But you know, I could be wrong. They

1206
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: might see things I don't. Oh, he ran the wrong

1207
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: route on that one even though the ball wasn't supposed

1208
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: to come his way, and he's got to get that.

1209
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying that's the case. But

1210
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 1: they see things and they know things that nobody else

1211
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: knows because they know what's called and they know what's

1212
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: discussed in the meetings, and they know that the guy's

1213
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: getting it or not. I'm not saying he's not, because

1214
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: it looks like he's making that jomb We talked about,

1215
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: who did I say was making that year one to

1216
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: year two jomb Aikins. I think Smith is making that

1217
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 1: job as well, based on my opinion. But obviously there's

1218
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: is the one. I feel like he made a jump

1219
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 1: last year in season he's started that first game, well yeah,

1220
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: he had of them, but right towards the end of

1221
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: the year, then you see obviously what he was Well,

1222
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: he had a further way to go. I mean, you

1223
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: think about him come from Limestone. At least you know

1224
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 1: a guy like George Nakens play uff. You know, they've

1225
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: played a little higher competition. So Vincent had to overcome

1226
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: that and kind of get used to that speed of

1227
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 1: the game, if you will, And he had to get

1228
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: past that hurdle first, and then you know, get to

1229
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: a point where he was at the end of the year.

1230
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: He made some progress. I think Jordan told us he

1231
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: said when he said where you are a DP was like, yeah,

1232
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: that game in Philadelphia was interesting because it was like

1233
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 1: that game in Philadelphia, I made that big play. I

1234
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: felt like I was I was part of it, even

1235
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 1: though he had been making some plays before that. Here's

1236
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: the other thing to think about. And when you said,

1237
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: when are we doing our fifty three show, we probably

1238
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: should do a fifty show or maybe even a forty

1239
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: nine show because we've seen this team over the last

1240
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: how many every years make how many different waiver claims

1241
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the fifty three man cutdown? How

1242
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: many times have we seen that numerous? I mean last

1243
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: year they picked up A J. Moore, Buddy Howe and

1244
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: Natrell Jamerson. I guarantee you they'll be at least two

1245
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: waiver claims, at least two at the end. So we

1246
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 1: made me thinking about a fifty one or a fifty carter.

1247
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 1: After Fuller went down, right, they got him at the

1248
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: bye week. I remember going into the bye week because

1249
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: I remember because I was recording to show that day

1250
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: like AT's bye week, not that will happen. I can

1251
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: record it and get out of here, and then had

1252
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: to come back here because DeAndre Carter had been signed.

1253
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: So that's an interesting point right there, because if we're

1254
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: talking about receivers and Carter, you know we've talked about it,

1255
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: does his special teams pross overcome whatever is maybe lacking.

1256
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's lacking or not, but if

1257
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 1: something's lacking in the wide receiver department, those special teams outweighed.

1258
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: But assuming you have a healthy, fuller QT and Hopkins,

1259
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: now he gets a really it gets to be a

1260
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: really crunchy number situation where you don't know what to do.

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Speaker 1: So obviously special teams factors in, and to Carter's credit,

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Speaker 1: he's really good at that. But you see Smith also

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Speaker 1: returning kicks too, So seeing a little bit of that

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Speaker 1: in camp, is he going to be doing more of that?

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: Would would were they just trying him out there? I

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01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: would be more apt to to where if if Vincy

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Speaker 1: were running back punts, then I would be like, okay, kicks,

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01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 1: And we talked about this, I mean, kicks can go

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01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: kind of either way depending on oh they were they

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Speaker 1: were returning. I didn't see too many touchbacks last night.

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Speaker 1: Every time I looked up, they were returning a kick preseason.

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Speaker 1: I want to see it. I think they all want

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01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: to see. I mean, what was a touchback do in

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: the preseason? Well, go ahead and kick? Well. Bill O'Brien

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: even said, he said, you can do a lot more

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01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: on special teams in the preseason because you just put

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Speaker 1: everything out there, unless if you're a good returner, you

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01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: sort of become a victim of your own circumstance. And

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Speaker 1: that like Daryl Roberts from the Jets, right, he was

1280
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: the number one returner in the league last year. How

1281
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: many returns did we give him in the Jets game?

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01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean, Kaymie just blasted through the end, so most

1283
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: of them then there. I think it was one or

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01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: two where we tackled him where we actually gave him

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Speaker 1: a chance to return or he chose to return it.

1286
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 1: So maybe you have to prove yourself on kick returns.

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01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: So maybe i'm you know, I kind of talk myself

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01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: back the other way that I do think the kick

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Speaker 1: because we talked about that when a guy like Kaymi,

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Speaker 1: you're probably gonna invite, You're gonna invite returns. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: invite him because you have a good kicker, You have

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 1: an experienced kicker. He can put it in place it

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: where you need to to put him inside the twenty

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01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: yard line like you want them to. I don't think

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01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: we're I think that'll be the case for us. I

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01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: think teams will want us to try and prove that

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 1: we can get beyond the twenty five. I don't know

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01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: why I'm flogging on other than the fact that I

1299
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: need a second cup of coffee. But during these joint practices,

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01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: do you go live kickoff returns or do you wait

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01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: for the game to do that. You will do some

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01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: drills that that simulated. I remember going to San Francisco.

1303
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: I remember going to San Francisco and they had a

1304
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: drill where they would have two blockers and they'd have

1305
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: a guy just flying on the field and the two

1306
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 1: blockers would have to try and control that one guy

1307
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: like it was a kickoff. Like it was. It was

1308
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: the individual parts. It was not the whole box of fries.

1309
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 1: It was just one fried at a time, if that

1310
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: makes sense. Remember I can visualize that drill right it's hot,

1311
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: or they've been sitting around a while I need them

1312
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: just like they're always hot. I need them hot. I

1313
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 1: can't I can't have one. Well that's the whole point.

1314
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: I can get by with the whole box, but you

1315
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 1: just it's deconstructed. Sometimes I just want a few fries,

1316
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: Like I'll be at the statehount. I don't want the

1317
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: whole thing because I'll just eat it, you know, I

1318
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: just want a few want to side note. The Houston

1319
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: Chronicle had a story about how a very high number

1320
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 1: of your drivers are eating your food before they deliver

1321
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: it to you. Oh whoa. And it was I don't

1322
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 1: want to quote the percentage, but it was very high.

1323
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: And I almost quote twitted. That's it. Okay, that's also

1324
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: me though, I pick up a burger for my kids

1325
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: almost gone by the time. Well you have to you,

1326
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: I mean parent taxes. Yeah, you have to apply parents

1327
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: all right. You just brought up a whole can of worms. Topic. There,

1328
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: DP tea for joining us. That's DP City, Deep slappersented

1329
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 1: Bafinity all right. Next up, Landry Lockers Questions of the

1330
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 1: Day will close it out strong. It's Texans Training Camp Live.

1331
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 1: It's Texans Training Camp Live. Keep up with the Houston

1332
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: Texans everywhere you go download the Texans mobile lap Joe

1333
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 1: it and preseason games will be streamed on the app.

1334
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: You can watch them there. You can watch them on

1335
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: ABC thirteen, listen to them right here on Sports Radio

1336
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: six and and The Bull one hundred point three FM.

1337
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: Of course, Armand Williams, the PD of Sports Radio sixteen,

1338
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: gets upset when I mentioned the Bull one hundred point

1339
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: three FFM as a way to listen to the games

1340
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: as well. Sorry, but it's true. I mean some people

1341
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: do like that listening over there, and they like country

1342
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: music as well, all right. I mean I do like

1343
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 1: some country music, not all the time. I'll just sample, Okay,

1344
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: it's still do a little bit. It's the one thing

1345
01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: that I say as a Texan that I you know,

1346
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: you can't you can't absorb everything in country music just

1347
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: didn't stick for me. I'll tell you. Outside cooking out,

1348
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, barbecue havn't some on I like that. That's

1349
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: that's good for me. Summertime excellent, all right. Landry Locker

1350
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: he joins us right now every day during Texans training

1351
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: camp live at this time with his questions of the day.

1352
01:08:47,560 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: They're thought provoking, so good, so often what do you

1353
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: got for us today? Landry? All right, fellas, let's start off.

1354
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: It is Friday, you guys got the day off. What

1355
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: do you guys do? And what did you guys have

1356
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 1: for breakfast? Is what I really want to know. I

1357
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: know this is a hard hitting thing. I just want

1358
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: to know what did John Harris and Mark Vandermer have

1359
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: for breakfast? I had some scrambled eggs and some chicken

1360
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: maple sausage. Links Oh that's pretty good. I scrambled eggs

1361
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: and fruit. Gosh, I'm so lame. I mean, listen, I

1362
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: will tell you this. I am a huge I will

1363
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: eat choice. So brought worse any kind of pork sausage

1364
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: you put in front of me. But I started eating

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01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: the chicken, chicken, apple maple sausage because that's what we

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: have in our in our they're good cafeteria. It's hard

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01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: for me to go on any other day. I'll tell

1368
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 1: you what in the Texans cafeteria. Here's the inside information

1369
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: for lunch and dinner. You cannot eat unhealthy. It is impossible,

1370
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: but it's really it's tasty, healthy food and the players

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01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: do love it. But that's no joke. When they talk

1372
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,600
Speaker 1: about that, they really do love it. But breakfast is

1373
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: where you can kind of bandage, okay, because they you know,

1374
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 1: they got pancakes and waffles and things like and the

1375
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: Sarah up and everything. So that's where the players can

1376
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: kind of have at it. And by the way, before

1377
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: doing training camp and if you you're coming to practice tomorrow,

1378
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: which is I know a small portion of the audience

1379
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: coming to the open practice, make sure you get something

1380
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: to eat before you go out in the heat. It

1381
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: is if you don't eat enough before. And it's not

1382
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 1: just drinking, it's eating. You gotta eat something before you

1383
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: go out. Not pig out, but eat something because you will.

1384
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,839
Speaker 1: It's not to be pleased, it's not pleas drop I forgot.

1385
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: I also have a slice of bacon. Landry got me

1386
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: thinking as I was walking back down here. I've realized

1387
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: after forty seven years that bacon is my kryptonite. It's

1388
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: everybody's kryptonite. I know, okay, don't you're not different, but

1389
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: I have a lot of kryptonites when it comes to food.

1390
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: But bacon is I mean, they have it in there

1391
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: and it's and it's good, and they're Bacon's the best.

1392
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,599
Speaker 1: It's crispy, it's perfect. You know, I hate when I

1393
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: order bacon and it's not right. I mean, come on,

1394
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 1: And that's that's the thing about it too, Like where

1395
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 1: are you with bacon? Do you like your crispy bacon?

1396
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: Do you like floppy bacon? I'm more a floppy I'm

1397
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: a yeah, you're floppy. Yes, Oh, but there's this perfect

1398
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 1: there's just a little bit more than floppy. But it's

1399
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: not totally. It's perfect. They can't change it. So yeah,

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 1: that's what's your food kryptonite? Landry fast food? Any kind

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01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: of fast food? I can you can name a fast

1402
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: food place. I'll tell you my exact order. I'm I'm

1403
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 1: a fast food one, probably by the number, right, all right? Yeah,

1404
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 1: just give me the number. Landry, Chick fil A? What number?

1405
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: Chick fil A's probably gonna be a number two if

1406
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: i'm if I'm feeling crazy, all right? McDonald's what number?

1407
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: McDonald's is gonna be a number number two? All right?

1408
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: What a Burger? What number number two? Water size with

1409
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: unsweet tea? What's your fast food number? For every fast food?

1410
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 1: That's that's impressive. Now, I will say my son at

1411
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: water Burger has the same order, Like I know the

1412
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 1: exact to the scent. What the cost is gonna be.

1413
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 1: It is a honey butter, chicken biscuit and baked egg

1414
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: and cheese, tikido and hash brows every time like there,

1415
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: it's gotta be between eleven and eleven though, even there.

1416
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: But you know what that is, Landry, that's motivation to

1417
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: get a teenager out of bed. Hey, look, you want waterburger? Yeah,

1418
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: well you gotta get up, Okay, get up, and I

1419
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: just go to get in the order. But that's how

1420
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 1: you that's how you get a teenager out of bed.

1421
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: You want waterburger breakfast? Yeah, okay, you gotta get up.

1422
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. And as far as what we're doing today, hey,

1423
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: it's we still have Texans All Access tonight. I got

1424
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff. We got the preseason broadcasts next

1425
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 1: week on TV and radio. And there's a lot to work,

1426
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 1: a lot of work to do. So I hate to

1427
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: get boring about it, but still grinding it out in

1428
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 1: the office, so to speak. Landry, All right, let's let's

1429
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: get to football a little bit. Yesterday's practice, I think

1430
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: it was probably the most intense eleven on eleven that

1431
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: we've seen. Who do you think did the best for

1432
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: themselves and who probably needs to look at the tape

1433
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: and probably uh rebounding from yesterday's performance, there was a

1434
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: stretch yesterday Landry of about five or six plays. It

1435
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of cannadiced the ending of one drone maybe the

1436
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 1: beginning of the next where the protection was not great.

1437
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: Saw JJ won one play, Charles and Manu had the

1438
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 1: next play disrupt passes. I don't even know if Deshan

1439
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: got the ball out of his hands on either one

1440
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: of those passes. So there's about a five to seven

1441
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: play stretch where I know Mike Devlon is sitting down

1442
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: with the offensive line saying, look, guys, this needs to

1443
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: be better. Now. They I thought, had a better practice

1444
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: after that that, I thought they looked pretty good. But

1445
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: as far as guys that just continue to shine, I mean,

1446
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins was phenomenal. I had to see his one

1447
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: on once. I had to go to Twitter and see

1448
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: what people take as we were on the air, so

1449
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see that. But very

1450
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: last play of practice, Watson finds Hopkins for the touchdown

1451
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: and Bill Brian's like, all right, enough done, when you're

1452
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: good enough to end practice on your catch for a touchdown. Yeah,

1453
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: and it kind of it gives everybody a lift on

1454
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: offense anyway, and and erases some of the things that

1455
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: might not have been so pretty dry the course of

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 1: the day. I'll give you a guy, I'll go prop

1457
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: bet for you for Thursday night's opener. This I predict

1458
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: will happen. A J. Moore is going to have a

1459
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: pick against the Packers because he's gonna get in there,

1460
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get in there in the second quarter

1461
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: or something. He's gonna get in our special teams early.

1462
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: But he'll be in there in the second quarter and

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: he'll probably play at least a couple of quarters and

1464
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna make something happen because he I believe, at

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: least in camp right now, context of camp early on,

1466
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: he's a ball magnet. He's gonna find the ball he

1467
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: hadna pick yesterday. Again, I just and it's not always

1468
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: ball magnets are like this. We've talked about this. It's

1469
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 1: not always I'm making a break on the ball and

1470
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: it's a trem it's I'm in the right place at

1471
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 1: the right time. Or I did make a great play

1472
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 1: as a defender and made a break on the ball

1473
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 1: and just got in front of the receiver or however

1474
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: I did it. He's one of those guys to me

1475
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: right now, and I want to see it continue, Please continue,

1476
01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 1: because he's the kind of guy you pull for. And

1477
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: Sean Kaiser's a backup quarterback for the Packers, so he's

1478
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: gonna throw a pick, rock and roll. He's gonna throw

1479
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, Okay, So I got you down

1480
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: for that. I'm hold you accountable on that one, guys,

1481
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm holding accountable. Okay, green Bay,

1482
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: you guys are going to uh to Green Bay. Who

1483
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: benefits the most We're gonna talk about this on in

1484
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 1: the loop. Who benefits the most from the inter squad

1485
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: practice on the Texans and has the biggest opportunity to

1486
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 1: do well for themselves secondary corners. You're a having a

1487
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 1: face Aaron Rodgers that I think that's that's part one.

1488
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: Part two is Devote Adams is one of the best

1489
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: route running, getting off the ball separation type receivers in

1490
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: the NFL. Devote Adams A lot of people, you know,

1491
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: you talk about bigger, the best receivers in the NFL.

1492
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: Devote Adams name probably isn't mentioned amongst those, which is

1493
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: a shame. He's phenomenal. He's phenomenal, and I think that's

1494
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a great test for those corners. But all

1495
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: of the Packers receivers Equinemia Saint Brown sixty three, Devote

1496
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: Adams is six one, six two. Toronimo Allison is the

1497
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: slot receiver and he's like six two. Jake Comro is

1498
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:05,639
Speaker 1: sixty four, Mark Markquez, Valdis Scanling is like six two sixty.

1499
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: These are all big receivers. These aren't guys that are

1500
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: like like suddenly, I'm frightened for the joint practices. I

1501
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 1: mean as a backup receiver in lame you know, he

1502
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 1: he played at Iowa State. He's six five. So these

1503
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,120
Speaker 1: are all big, they're not They're not the key, key

1504
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:23,799
Speaker 1: QT types. So the secondary is gonna get a challenge

1505
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 1: facing some big receivers. And if you think about it,

1506
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: that's what they're gonna face. Michael Thomas week one, uh,

1507
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: Jack Tullian whatever, Keenan Allen, and Mike Williams. In week three,

1508
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna face Devin Funcious with the Cult. You're gonna

1509
01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: face Kelsey and Sammy Watkins with the Chiefs at some point.

1510
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: So you're gonna face some big receivers and this is

1511
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: a good group to go again. So I think it's

1512
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: a secondary in particular the corners facing a lot of

1513
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,519
Speaker 1: these big, primitive receivers. Yeah, because we're talking about benefits.

1514
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a great learning experience. Even

1515
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: if they don't do that well, they'll know what they

1516
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 1: need to do and hopefully they can correct it and

1517
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: get better. But to me, running game, I don't need

1518
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 1: to see Lamar Miller. I mean, Lamar can have a carry. Please,

1519
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 1: we know what Lamar Miller is. I want to see

1520
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: Foreman and it's an in concert ensemble kind of thing.

1521
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: I want to see Foreman and Company gash some people here.

1522
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 1: I want to see that running game look good against

1523
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: Green Bay in these joint practices, and I know that

1524
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: the course of the game. It's preseason games are clunky.

1525
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: Look at last night. Now that's the first of five

1526
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: for those teams, so it's a little bit different. By

1527
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: the way, Matt Shop, oh my gosh, sixteenth year in

1528
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: the league didn't And I like Matt, he did not.

1529
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: And I've said this before two years ago. Maybe last

1530
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 1: year looked pretty good in the preseason. Last night not

1531
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: so good. Last night was you're watching the shining through

1532
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: your fingers, like, oh, oh my god, like it's that.

1533
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, it was. It was the shot gosh

1534
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: and Lopez had the tweet of the night about some

1535
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: financial stuff regarding him. Say, I'll just say that right now.

1536
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: You know, you know he was here seven years. Yeah,

1537
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: three seasons. He was able to play all sixteen games.

1538
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: Look when he the seven but in the in the

1539
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: middle years of nine, ten, how about this, nine and

1540
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: ten he plays full years. I know we're on a

1541
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: chant tangent right now. Eleven he gets hurt, and we

1542
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: know what happened in eleven. Right, he's back for twelve

1543
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 1: and they go twelve and four. So nine, ten and

1544
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:23,440
Speaker 1: twelve were his full seasons, and ten was a disaster,

1545
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: but a lot of it wasn't on him. The defense

1546
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: had a horrible year. That teach should have at least

1547
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: been eight and eight, and there were six and ten.

1548
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 1: They should have at least been eight named maybe nine

1549
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: and seven. So you know, nine and seven and oh nine,

1550
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: six and ten and ten, twelve and four and twelve

1551
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: his for his full three seasons here and the numbers

1552
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: are really good from him from those seasons, but you know, injuries.

1553
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 1: I think health is one bunch of the cause of

1554
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,559
Speaker 1: it as anything else for him. And Matt Ryan, by

1555
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: the way, has played nine consecutive Think about this Matt Ryan,

1556
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 1: who no one ever talks about. And I'm not saying

1557
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: he's the greatest quarterback in the league, but he's certaly

1558
01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 1: a good quarterback nine consecutive seasons, starting all sixteen games

1559
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: each of those seasons. He's on an iron man run

1560
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 1: right now. And it's really cool. He's been to a

1561
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,560
Speaker 1: Super Bowl whatever. Should have won that Super Bowl? Anyway,

1562
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 1: what was the question again? You hit it? Yeah, you

1563
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 1: hit Brody game good? Yeah, three of seven for minus

1564
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: two yards. By the way from Matt Shob yesterday, so

1565
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: not the best stat line ever seen past is can

1566
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 1: you have a negative passer rating? I think? Is the

1567
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 1: passer rating? All right? I need you guys that talk

1568
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 1: me off the ledge. If you want to join me

1569
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: on the ledge, you can go right ahead. But something

1570
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 1: else that happened yesterday We got our first taste of

1571
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,959
Speaker 1: the new NFL pass interference Challenge role. It was upheld.

1572
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 1: I think this is for lack of a better term,

1573
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing I've ever seen a league do. I

1574
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 1: hope that it only lasts a year. Convinced me that

1575
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 1: this is this is a good thing for the NFL

1576
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: and not absolute foolishness. Here's the only thing I will

1577
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: tell you about that, Landry where or I'm holy in

1578
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 1: agreement with you. If if it, if it holds to

1579
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: what kind of the rumor was coming out of those

1580
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 1: meetings that it is going to be for egregious penalties

1581
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 1: and egregious penalties really only I'll be fine with it.

1582
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: What overturning these Yeah, if an overturn like I mean,

1583
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: for example, I mean the one in the championship game,

1584
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 1: If we get one of those in the game and

1585
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: it's not called and that gets over, okay, I'm fine

1586
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: with It's gotta be an egregious guy just grabbed the jersey,

1587
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: just did something illegal, completely illegal, then then yes. But

1588
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: if they start changing, Hey, these guys are hand fighting

1589
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 1: all the way down the field and right, well look

1590
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 1: right then, last second here you see the offense a

1591
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: little bit of then it's gonna be a disaster. Then

1592
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 1: then I'm with Lantern that it's such a tough review

1593
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 1: because there are too many gray areas. It's not like

1594
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: was this total in or out? And everyone in a

1595
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: while it's like it's touching the what you know. But

1596
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: usually it's pretty clear when you look at it. That's

1597
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 1: why I say egregious. Yeah, it's it's gonna be a

1598
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: tough one. I like the fact though, that you could

1599
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: throw a flag. I really do. I think that throwing

1600
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: the challenge flag makes the coach think about it. I

1601
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: got to think about this if they were gonna stop

1602
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: it every time. I don't want to college football or

1603
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 1: basketball in some cases where they stop the game all

1604
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:16,559
Speaker 1: the time. You know upstairs, I'm gonna stop this game,

1605
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: press pause on this game. I like the fact that

1606
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: you put the onus on the coaching staff. But now

1607
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into and I'm surprised we haven't gotten

1608
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: there already. Where in the coach's box they have their

1609
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: own replay equipment where they can look at it really fast.

1610
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: They almost need like a TV studio in there. And

1611
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: there's so much on the line it fascinates me. I

1612
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: love the fact also in this game that it's an

1613
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: automatic review for turnovers and for scoring plays. I do

1614
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: like that, and all it took coaches like that because

1615
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: it took the onus away from them to throw a

1616
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: flag in those situations. Now it's automatics, so I don't

1617
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. The challenge flag is not

1618
01:21:55,120 --> 01:22:01,080
Speaker 1: quite as as scarce, as fragile, as valuable as it

1619
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: was because you know, now, how many times does a

1620
01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: team go into the locker room at the end of

1621
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: the game, and you know, I didn't throw two or

1622
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: three of all, I didn't throw any maybe or through

1623
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 1: a woe. Yeah, you keep it in your pocket. So

1624
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you can throw the flag

1625
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: inside two minutes. It's gonna be really interesting to see

1626
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: if and when they stop the game, because in a

1627
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: two minute situation, that's a breather for both sides, and

1628
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: I guess both sides could possibly benefit from that. I

1629
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have some really good talking points Land,

1630
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot of good talking points based

1631
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: on this rule. You're not selling the season. You're not

1632
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: selling man. And this is the other thing good for

1633
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: like good for talk radio, which is not necessarily good

1634
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: for everybody. And I want to I want to ask

1635
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,400
Speaker 1: Bob about this tomorrow practice. But you know, don't you

1636
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of have to weigh it out because let's say

1637
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: it's second and nine or something like that, and a

1638
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: guy gets tackled, you know, six yards down the field,

1639
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: it would be an automatic first down. Is it really

1640
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 1: worth challenging knowing that you're not gonna have a challenge

1641
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: for maybe a more a more critical play later on

1642
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 1: in the half, you know what I mean? But again,

1643
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: how many? How do you think it's highly stratech The

1644
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,480
Speaker 1: flags are not the value to me. It's the timeouts

1645
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: that the value. The cost of a challenge that doesn't

1646
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 1: work out as a timeout. So if I run out

1647
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 1: of challenges, My point is, I think I'll be okay

1648
01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: running out of challenges usually Now with pass interference on

1649
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: the line, maybe it changes things a little bit. But

1650
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: you know, if if I get two right, I get

1651
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: that third right, so I go ahead and throw it. Now.

1652
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: Second and nine is a situation just brought up? Is

1653
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 1: pretty interesting? Is it at the end of the half

1654
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna scoring drive and it's really tough going

1655
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: that day? You might want to think about it. All

1656
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: I know is our video board guys here, which is

1657
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: by the way, they won. They just won number one

1658
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 1: video board from the league again four out of seven years.

1659
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: The dynasty. They're dynasty. They are they are total dynasty.

1660
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 1: And they get that replay up stat So O'Brien could

1661
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 1: look at it unless it's going to help the opponent

1662
01:23:52,160 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: and then then it's off crickets up there. Yeahs, you

1663
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: got frak Reich like, oh, there's the mascot. I need

1664
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: to look at this. I want to get one more

1665
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 1: in with y'all before we start in the loop. All right,

1666
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,839
Speaker 1: John Lopez is to my rights, John Lopez needs a job. Okay,

1667
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 1: John Lopez needs a job, and the Texans have to

1668
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: hire John Lopez to do something. Give John Lopez a

1669
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: role within the Texans organization. And you can't just put him.

1670
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: You can't just make him a security guy or something

1671
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: like that. He has to be doing something relatively important.

1672
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: Give the OG a job that we have the thing

1673
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: called Texans Lux, which is sweet, and I'm gonna put

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01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: Lopez there and he can entertain people for the Lux events.

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01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: He can be the host. Lopez walks around with a

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01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 1: cocktail and talks to people, and I think that's his job.

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01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, exactly. You have to play to

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01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: your strength drinking and talking. I think this is right

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01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 1: up your round. I think the lux people would be waiting, Hey,

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01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,840
Speaker 1: when does when does Och walk in? Yeah? When does

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01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: he come in? And you just walk in and you've

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01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: got whatever drinking your hands and marguerite to that day

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01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you just that's the perfect role. The

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01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: legendary status of Lopez is this, He was the chupacabra.

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,600
Speaker 1: That was the og. Like when you go two nicknames

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01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: and it spans your career and who knows what else

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01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: is next. That is a legendary thing. Yeah, legend All right, guys,

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01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, and in the loop is coming up

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01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: with LANDRYA. Lopez. We're back at six tonight. Thanks so

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01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: much for listening. Go Texans.