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Speaker 1: Giants of the Giants podcast network. Welcome to the most

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Speaker 1: recent edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. John Schmilk with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you as much for being with us. Today's guest

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Speaker 1: is NFL Networks Brian bald Dinger. But first one to

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Speaker 1: our guests, Baldy. Good to talk to you, man. How

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Speaker 1: are you? How? I know, I know has been terrible,

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Speaker 1: but I hope your twenty has been less terrible than more.

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Speaker 1: You know what scwnny John is. I'm actually in my

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Speaker 1: film room at NFL Films right now, just literally down

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Speaker 1: the turnpike from you, and I'm the only one up

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Speaker 1: here on the third floor and has been for it

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Speaker 1: literally the last three months. But like I mean, as

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Speaker 1: far as social distancing and all the stuff that we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to do, I mean I practice it every day

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Speaker 1: and so that's been good and I didn't get to

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Speaker 1: but I did get to I did get to seven camps,

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Speaker 1: So I felt like I got to eyeball, you know

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Speaker 1: enough at least to you know, talk about the roster

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Speaker 1: and coaching changes and some of these places, getting Carolina

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Speaker 1: in New York, so places where there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: those places. All right. Well, and that's why I wanted

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Speaker 1: to come on the show, Baldy, because you were one

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Speaker 1: of the guys that that came down from the national

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Speaker 1: perspective down to the Giants practice this year. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm watching practice every day and I see

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Speaker 1: people on the outside talking about these draconian measures that

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Speaker 1: roll my eyes. What was your impression watching a Joe

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Speaker 1: Judge practice and and didn't remind you of any other

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Speaker 1: practice that you've seen over your years in the league. Well,

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Speaker 1: Eric man Jennie did that when he went to New York,

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Speaker 1: and I can't say that you know, it worked or

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Speaker 1: didn't work. I know this, John, Like when I was

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Speaker 1: so I mean I I would do anything. I'd be

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Speaker 1: laid off the ball before, I would jump early. But

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Speaker 1: there is something about you can call it raconian. But

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Speaker 1: everybody has to be trained. Um, you know everybody, and

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Speaker 1: everybody has to be disciplined. We all are crying out

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Speaker 1: for John. And if this makes the Giants a little

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Speaker 1: more disciplined, better trained, Listen more carefully, concentrate harder when

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Speaker 1: that it helps, we'll find out, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: who Joe Judge is, and more power to him. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And the way I kind of look at it, Brian,

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Speaker 1: remember the good ones, right John. We we we kind

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Speaker 1: you why. Yeah, no question about it. All. Right, let's

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Speaker 1: Because and by the way, if you guys go to

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Speaker 1: NFL game Pass, you can see the great feature that

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Speaker 1: that Brian has been doing with a lot of these

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Speaker 1: NFL players um breaking down a lot of the tape

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Speaker 1: and it really is fantastic if you're hardcore NFL fan,

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Speaker 1: It is much watched stuff. So make sure you go

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Speaker 1: guys out there and check it out. When it comes

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Speaker 1: to the Giants. From an exit and perspective, Brian really

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Speaker 1: easy to say, all right, Daniel Jones has to cut

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Speaker 1: down the turnovers. Okay, easy to say, no problem. From

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Speaker 1: order to cut down on those turnovers? Well, so many

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Speaker 1: of them. John, we're right in the pocket a year ago,

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Speaker 1: a fine. Look. The guy throws a perfect spiral every throw.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there. I think, just like

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Speaker 1: think in the pocket, better awareness, um, more concentration when

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Speaker 1: So you'd love to make teams as run dimensional as

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Speaker 1: if they can do that, that could that could help sure,

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Speaker 1: all right, Brian, Final question, big picture? What should Giant

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Speaker 1: fans expectations be? What should they be looking for? What

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Speaker 1: should they be watching as they go through this season? Uh,

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Speaker 1: to determine whether or not it's a success. You can

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Speaker 1: I mean, they have up forty three in New England.

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Speaker 1: I mean the you know, Lamar Jackson through five touchdown

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Speaker 1: people thought they would your own sixteen. And they got

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. And that was a team that did nothing

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Speaker 1: but improve. They listened to the coach, they bought in,

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Speaker 1: and they played winning football in the month of December.

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Speaker 1: They were three and two in December. The quarterback was

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Speaker 1: really good, and they looked like a completely different football team.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what the wreck it's gonna be, John,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to predict any records, but that's that's

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Speaker 1: I I'm a Giant fan. I want to see it

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Speaker 1: because I think I saw it practice, John. I believe

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Speaker 1: the team has completely brought in to who Joe judges

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Speaker 1: to see I want to see this team in December

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Speaker 1: be much more competitive than I think they may show

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Speaker 1: um in September. And if they do that, I don't

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Speaker 1: care what their record is. They're they're on the right track.

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Speaker 1: And I think Brian to your point, and and just

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Speaker 1: a quick follow Patrick Graham did that on defense by

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Speaker 1: the way, Miammy with a bunch of guys are on

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Speaker 1: guys that nobody ever really heard of, and he got

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Speaker 1: So just long term for the Giants. When you look

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Speaker 1: at the talent on the roster, what Dave Gentleman's built

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Speaker 1: are from in terms of a long term built perspective

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Speaker 1: Where do you think they are and where do you

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna need to bring in some help? It

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Speaker 1: doesn't look like they have just a straight dog on

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Speaker 1: the defensive line, you know the Nick Bosa, you know

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Speaker 1: built around with LT and straight hand those kind of guys.

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Speaker 1: So that's not there, and they need that and every

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Speaker 1: great defense needs that. UM, some some guy that could

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Speaker 1: just set the tone. They need a ball hawk in

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Speaker 1: the secondary. We don't know that they have that. UM.

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Speaker 1: They have made a lot of mistakes obviously in the

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Speaker 1: draft over the years. DeAndre Baker is a mistake. And

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Speaker 1: when you make a mistake, John, the mistake doesn't go away.

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Speaker 1: You can cover for it, but doesn't go away. So

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Speaker 1: you know they they've been covering for it, whether it's

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Speaker 1: bringing in free agents, General's Jenkins or all the guy

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Speaker 1: who lives there. They've been bringing in and overpaying for

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Speaker 1: free agents. But eventually you've got it hit gold in

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Speaker 1: these drafts. And so to me, the offensive line is

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Speaker 1: still priority number one. Now. I don't know if Nick

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Speaker 1: Kates is a long term answer. Shan O'Hara was, and

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Speaker 1: he was a free agent. And they've done They've they've

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Speaker 1: found those players before. UM. They they need to find

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Speaker 1: game and are good players, and you you will go

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Speaker 1: it's not a question where they draft him. So those

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Speaker 1: guys are all free agents. But give me five of

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Speaker 1: those guys. And I'm just going backwards in time here,

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Speaker 1: I go back to billy Ard. Give me Billiard, give

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Speaker 1: me five of those guys subourbon night. So if we could,

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Speaker 1: if they can do that, that's and I think they're

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Speaker 1: still trying to find that out right now. I think

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Speaker 1: Nick Gates might end up being one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out a lot about him in the

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Speaker 1: first month. Then they hope they have their franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find that out to Brian awesome stuff before

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Speaker 1: we say goodbye. Tell the folks where they can find

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Speaker 1: only your great work in everything you're doing right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm on the NFL networks. I'm hosting Total Access tonight

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Speaker 1: from seven till nine. Um I'll be I'll be on

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Speaker 1: Game Pass as well, Baldy, great stuff, my friend. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: you'll see again during the year and in a very

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Speaker 1: unique twenty twenty. Stay safe, my friend will talk to

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Speaker 1: you down the road doing the same. John Owns a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man. That's Brian Baldinger from Menaphone Network. We thank

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