WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Hampered by Hurt Hankins? 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.240 Cowboys. 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:18.439 This He's Talking Cowboys Straining live from the Dallas Cowboys World. 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.360 Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:33.040 Streetdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda, 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:34.880 and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:41.639 It's a wonderful Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:43.760 Black Rifle Coffee Company. 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:45.720 Here from the Star in Frisco. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.800 As the Cowboys get set to take on the Buffalo 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:50.919 Bills coming up this Sunday. 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:53.440 They are at ten and three. They are in first 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:57.080 place in the NFC East for now. But they'll take 0:00:57.120 --> 0:00:59.560 on the Buffalo Bills coming up on Sunday and. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.160 Get away from us. Hey, don't you take that away 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:06.000 from Kyle here right now? Man, they are in first place. 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.640 That's all that has to be said. Don't you say 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:12.000 for now? Okay, they're in first place. Whatever happens happens. Okay. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.920 I love it when Isaiah gets into like voice cracking mode. 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:17.920 So if I drink coffee, I can start my day 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:18.240 like that too. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.240 Bro, I have not had any caffeine Black Rifle. It's 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:22.040 that Black rifle. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.040 You know, I will argue that I don't think you 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.560 need any right now. I think you're where you need 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:25.760 to be. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:27.400 I'm not definitely need a caffeine. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:29.240 Tell you what that black rifle will. 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:31.240 Oh my gosh. Yes, when we. 0:01:31.240 --> 0:01:32.920 Went and I had that that thing and I fund 0:01:32.959 --> 0:01:34.560 it and like what was it like three minutes? 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:36.480 Yeah, I was brolly. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.040 I have a really busy day. I might have to 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:40.360 take down about two of those RTDs. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.840 They're starting to become more readily available. 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:43.360 Like there. 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.520 I went the other day to a gas station. I 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:49.160 was on my way to a gig. I was halfway. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:51.120 Between Fort Worth and Stephenville because I was going to 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.320 Tarleton and I stopped at a gas station and I 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.400 was needing a kick. I needed something because I was 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.040 just I was about I had about thirty minutes left 0:01:59.040 --> 0:01:59.760 in my drive. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.360 And I had a game to call that night. And 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.520 I went into this gastre and I was looking around, 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.679 looking around, looking around, and sure enough, the same cans 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.280 that we've got from a black cowboys the cowboys want. 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.200 Don't you pull that out? I'm gonna drink it. Don't 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.680 you put it. It's freaking done ticket. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.080 I mean it's been in there for a lot minute. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:23.560 Kids. Literally cold freaking isn't it. That's right. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.200 I never thought that one would got out that in either. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:27.560 We've got more upstairs. 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:30.280 We can make it work quick, get a little little sanitation. 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:30.720 There we go. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.000 Ye, there you need this, There we go. 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:35.799 I bet you want finish it. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:38.400 There's no way, no way, there is no way I 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:39.760 would be worried for your hearts. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.360 He's about to be like, yes, that is incredible. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.320 That's right. That's black rifle. That's how we freaking go. Baby. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:50.520 Never had a drink in my life, but I had 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.040 a black rifle coffee. There it is. 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:59.239 Just shoved three hundred freaking I need it today, High 0:02:59.320 --> 0:02:59.760 Bay B. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:02.680 By the end of the show, Isaiah is going to be. 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.120 Off the wall. You've never had an alcoholic bever I've 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.880 never had, but I've had a black rifle. T D. 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:09.600 Let me see that thing. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:10.880 Let me see this. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.079 This is delicious. I've I've had my fair share of these. 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:15.440 How many servings are saying that? 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:15.880 Uh? 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.840 It says I r s then but. 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.560 Things only it's one forty calories on one serving. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:26.320 Wow, I'll burn that off. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:26.720 I'm telling you. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.679 Ufles got their stuff together and it's not because they're 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.360 the the uh. 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:34.560 Sponsor of the show, Like that's good coffee. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:38.080 This scripted by Hey, I'm impressed that that was incredible 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:38.600 to do that. 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:44.160 With that being said, news and notes you want Isaiah 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:44.440 to do. 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.160 I'm afraid we're gonna go too fast time here. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:49.680 You just do the whole show today. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.520 We're gonna say it's. 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:52.520 Gonna be over in five minutes. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:54.760 Thanks for joining us. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.240 We could start with Jonathan Hankins with his high ankle 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.360 spring that he suffed for coming out of the game 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.280 against Philadelphia. They were testing and everything yesterday, so Steven 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.280 Jones talked about it on the fan, and then Mike 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.920 McCarthy talked about it yesterday during his press conference. And 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.160 it doesn't sound like there's an official timetable, but Ian 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.080 Rappaport immediately after the game had put out that you know, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.120 he's expected to be you know, somewhere in that three 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.159 to four week range and should be back by the playoffs, 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:24.120 if not sooner. But hopefully we'll get a little bit 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:27.560 more clarity today on the timetable for Hankins and if 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.200 IR is necessary, which I believe, if he's getting put 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.680 on IR, that would put him out for the rest 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.839 of the regular season. But they do have two practice 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.400 squad defensive tackles that they have brought in over the 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:40.880 course of the season. Carl Davis, who is a thirty 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:42.839 year old, nine year veteran. He's played in the league 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.680 with quite a few teams. He's got a lot of 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:46.800 experience in the league. It's tough to find those kind 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.360 of practice squad guys with that much experience. And then 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.520 you also have a Willington Prevalon, who I think has 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:53.560 the best name on the team, and he's very sneakily 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.000 one of the funniest players on the team. So he's 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:57.880 a big boy, wears a ninety four. So if you 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.720 see him out there in the interior, that's not DeMarcus 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:01.040 where that's when we want. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:02.080 Next week he's back. 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.200 Which one of these four games down the stretch, Buffalo, Miami, Detroit, 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:11.840 Washington are you most concerned about without Jonathan Hankins, Yes, 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:12.880 all of them. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.520 I would say Detroit and then this week probably jump 0:05:17.520 --> 0:05:19.159 out to me just with the way that they run 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.240 the football, that's where I feel like you're going to 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.640 miss him the most. And honestly, he's kind of exceeded 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.480 my expectations this season, no doubt. Uh, just the way 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.520 him and os have played next to each other. They clearly, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.200 I mean that group together that really helped solidify things 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.440 in the middle. And so I thought it was a 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.680 good sign when you know, after he left the field, 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:39.880 he walked back. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:40.880 And was sitting on the sideline. 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:43.360 So I'm thinking, Okay, well, maybe it's not anything too 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.240 serious or he would have just stayed in the back. 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.760 But yeah, high ankle sprain, So who knows how long 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.839 did that keep a guy of his size out? Not great, 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.600 you know, but all things being considered, you look at 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.120 every team across the league and everyone's dealing with some injuries, 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:58.400 and for the most part of the Cowboys are in 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.000 pretty good shape. So to come out of that game 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.880 with that being the only thing, I guess it's not terrible. 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:06.640 But I think that we're going to notice his absence. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:08.039 It's a big thing. 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.200 Like you said, it might be the only thing, but 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.640 it is a big thing, and it's under the radar. 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.600 It's not like it's one of those big names, but 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:15.600 it's an impactful one. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.720 I Mean, we've seen time without Jonathan Hankins in the past. 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:21.160 Last year, for instance, whenever he went down toward the 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.320 back half of the season, they had to make adjustments 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:28.080 and the man him not having him in the middle there, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:32.039 I think it does a wonder in the wrong way 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.120 for your defensive front. 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.200 But you have an opportunity for some young guys to 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.480 really step up right. So much like when Trayvon went 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.120 Actually you go all the way back there last week 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:42.560 last year, right when Jay Lou went down, Deron Bland 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.440 showed up right. You didn't expect him to show up. 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.400 You're like, oh, crap, Deron Blann, who's this guy? 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:46.479 All? 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:46.680 Right? 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:48.640 Here you go? He can playmaker? Right, And then this 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.680 year you knew what he was capable of. And then 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.880 Treyvon Diaz goes down, he goes out to where he's 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:56.520 never really been before, and he balls out again. So 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.960 in terms of opportunities, this is typically how things. 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:00.839 Work in the NFL. 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:03.599 How you find out about you know, you know, the 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.159 guys that are on the up and up. So we 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.320 talked about a first round draft pick in Mazzie Smith 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.559 and how he's quote unquote underperformed or slowed to start, 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.880 whatever you want to call it. This is opportunity for 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:16.080 him it's a huge opportunity. Now, it's not something that 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.240 as Cowboys fans you want in terms of not having 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.840 your your your statue right there in the middle of 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:24.520 the defense, but it does present an opportunity. You know, 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.880 you do know that most likely you're going to the playoffs. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.800 You also know that you're you're going to get Jonathan 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.920 Hankins back, So for four weeks you have an opportunity 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:36.520 to develop players who might not have developed had Jonathan 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:37.760 Hankins been in that position. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.000 And so my question to you all you guys, but 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.000 especially because Isaiah just brought that up out the final 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:46.160 these next four games, so a pretty popular response on Twitter, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.880 I'm sure you've seen this has been fans talking about, well, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.040 what about Endamakan Sue. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:51.880 There's a text I was just about to go to, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.000 what are your thoughts on that? 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:55.480 I'm I'm not against it. 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.360 You can bring him on a practice squad and see 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.960 how he's looking, right, I'm mean, and Dominansou is a freaking. 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:03.160 Beast of a player when he played. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.760 I mean, you still got some There's some other names 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:06.720 that I saw out there too, that are some some 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.520 guys that can play and hold it down. In the middle, 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:10.080 but you have to bring them on a practice squad 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:11.600 and to see what they're looking like. Yeah, I mean, 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.560 that's really what it comes down to. Are these guys what. 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.480 They did with the players like that in the past. 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.560 I mean, are these guys capable of still coming in 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.280 and having an impact? You know, it's one thing to 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.600 have to have had a name and to have been 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.400 a very impactful player, but are you still that I 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.480 don't know, right, That's why you bring guys in for workouts. 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:28.160 That's why you put them on. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:31.640 Practice squad and let them have an assimilation and type period, 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.600 and if they can have an impact, then yeah, put 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.640 him in a game. I wouldn't be against if a 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.040 dominicant Sioux could still play at that level that he could, 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:40.600 I'm not sure that he would be still sitting at 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.760 the crib like that. That's just the reality of this league. 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.800 At that position, everybody needs a run stopper, and if 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.280 there was a dominant run stopper that was still available, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.480 you're most likely it would have been on a roster already. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:53.640 That's not to say that he can't still be productive 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.000 based upon what you're asking him him to do, but 0:08:58.400 --> 0:08:59.800 you just don't know until you step on the field. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:01.720 Yeah, I'm not huge ump bring to dumpkin Sue in. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.480 I don't think it's that major of an issue. If 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.600 it was a season ender for Jonathan Hankins, then yeah, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.800 probably you will get into that from my perspective at least, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.880 but he's going to be back for the playoffs, at 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.240 least it appears so far. 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.200 You know, if it was a bigger deal, maybe so. 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.400 But I'm confident with what's in the building to try 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:19.679 and figure out what to do over the course in 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.679 the next four weeks, and who knows, it might be 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:24.280 an opportunity for a guy like Mazzie Smith or Neville Gallimore, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.079 one of these practice squad guys to really be able 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.640 to show that they are the reliable depth in that interior. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.600 The eight seven zero said, Hey, mister Jones, please go 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:32.480 sign Sue. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:33.319 That's I mean. 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.199 I don't know if this is a direct line to Jerry. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:37.240 I don't know if he has access the world. We'll 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:38.319 see if we can relay. 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:38.440 That in for me. 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.599 He'll have to get the two factor authentication from a 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:42.400 beam though. He'll have to Jones. 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.960 Jerry will yeah, Jerry, Yeah, that's fair. What about what 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.560 are you guys thoughts on, like Quentin Bohana? 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:48.640 Is he out there? 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:48.920 Yeah? 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:51.680 See in the open market, Big Bo's out there? Okay, 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:52.240 are you sure? 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.600 Yeah? So I read article maybe a day ago. Yeah, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:09:59.959 I think I was. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.000 Might he's practice squad, so you would have to perch 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.040 him off a practice squad. 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:03.960 I don't know. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.320 I think you've seen that and done that. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.720 I understand I'm saying, but like you're familiarized, right, you're 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:10.760 not sure. It's not a question mark. You know what 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.280 you're getting. You know that you know the proper expectations 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.400 of that player. That's the risk with some of these 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:17.600 guys that you would bring off the couch who have 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.840 been sitting all year long is you don't know what 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.200 you're going to get. You don't know what their what 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.559 their workload is, what they're capable of doing, what the 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.600 what the good thing is, what the bad thing is. Like, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.840 you know this player, you could put him in a 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:33.599 situation to be successful based upon the proper expectations. 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:35.240 That's the one positive. 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.200 I'm not saying that he's as dominant player as some 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:38.719 of the other guys that might be available, but you 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.960 at least you know what he's capable of based upon 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:42.920 what you would ask him to do. 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:45.200 Tristan Hill, he's available too. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:46.120 He is available. 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.280 I know that one for sure. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.360 Like Tristman, he's undersized. I mean he's he's quick. He's quick. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.959 Yeah, different, different body than what you're trying to replace 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:54.920 with Jonathan Hankins. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:57.080 I really feel confident with what they have here to 0:10:57.120 --> 0:11:00.280 fill out what will be missing with Alam gonna be 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:02.400 able to make up for Hankins. Absolutely not like Hankins 0:11:02.440 --> 0:11:04.640 has been awesome and just plugging, running lanes and using 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:08.120 that wide body all season. But I would rather see 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:10.240 these other guys get an opportunity. I didn't love what 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.560 I saw for Mazie Smith and the snaps that he 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.800 had in the second half last week after Hankins went out, 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:16.719 and I don't think the coaching staff maybe did either, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.560 because Neville Gallimore got quite a bit of run there 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.880 and late in the game. So we'll kind of see 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:22.640 how that shakes out. But it's also an opportunity for 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.280 Osa di Gizua. You know, he's been so great in 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:29.640 that interior this season. It's it's kind of almost unheralded 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.240 a little bit just because of you know, he doesn't 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.440 show up in the stat box that much, and he 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.520 had a couple of really impactful sacks early in the season, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.680 but since then it hasn't really been the stat sheet 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.360 filler that you would expect from a dominant defensive lineman. 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:42.760 But that's what he's been this season. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:43.680 And so he's been a disruptor. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.520 Yeah, it's another opportunity for him to kind of fill 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.600 those running lanes and get around a little bit quicker maybe, 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:48.240 so we'll see. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.000 I'm still trying to at this roster for a better 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.080 name than Wellington Prevalent. I think you might have it though. Yeah, 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:58.040 but you guys are actually working. This is what I'm doing. 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:04.120 My biggest concern with the absence of Jonathan Hankins is 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.319 in order to have the impact, based upon what we've 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:10.680 seen this season behind him, in order to have the 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:13.640 impact that he has in his run stopping ability, I 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.760 believe that you have to start running more stunts. I 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:19.400 think you have to start asking guys to move across 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.640 the face of offensive linemen and filling those gaps with 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:25.600 linebackers now versus just being able to put your foot 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:27.800 in the ground in two gap guys, And that's what 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:30.720 you know, Big Jonathan Hankins was allowing you to do. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.920 He was allowing you to play straight downhill at least 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.040 at that position, and everybody else to kind of, you know, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.760 do whatever else that dan Quinn's asking. I'm not sure 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.520 that you can take that same approach now with his absence. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.600 I think you have to change your defensive scheme on 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:47.520 the front to elicit the same effective effectiveness that he had. 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:50.679 Who does a great job of running stunts like you're 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.240 talking about whether we're talking about today's NFL ever, Like 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.520 to you when you think of a group up front 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.360 running stunts like that, like who would you say, is 0:12:57.920 --> 0:12:59.840 something that jumps out like just to give kind of 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:01.880 team or just or defense? 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.000 I mean just I mean man, yeah, I mean even 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.120 just on this team. Quentin, I mean not Quinn. You 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:07.880 guys gotta look at a let me get him off. 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.079 He's a practice squad with the Lions, by the way, 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:12.199 but Diggize. 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:13.560 I think a lot of the ways in which he 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.840 gets his penetration and his disruption in the backfield is 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.439 he crosses the face of a lot office lineman. He's 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.200 just so quick, so explosive, he can anticipate the snap count. 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.199 He's done a great job of that this year. You know, 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:26.120 Nick talked about. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.320 How he hasn't necessarily shown up in the stat sheet, 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:31.360 but he's definitely shown up for this defense and he 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.120 has really made it difficult on opposing office alliance. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.640 I'm not sure that that he's going to that it 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:38.960 would just be him doing that. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.439 Now, right, you have your defensive ends, whoever's out there, 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.000 Mike d Law. You had Osa that was kind of 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.520 you know, had the freedom to kind of cross the 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.800 face of whatever guard is out there. And then you 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.080 had big Jonathan Hankins that can literally just push and 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.520 go straight downhill. Now you don't have that force right 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.160 next to Osa, Diggie Zula, you don't have that. So 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.359 now you either a have to ask Osa to come Hey, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.160 stop taking it as many risk as you were as 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.480 you were taking before in terms of crossing face and 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.160 choosing a direction. And now I'm asking you to take 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.840 away your biggest asset and just go straight ahead now, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.880 or I'm going to ask everybody now to run stunts 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.520 right to cross the face and to try to get 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:15.719 that penetration, get these guys turning their shoulders. And now 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.680 my second level has to be more aggressive towards the 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:20.520 line of scrimmage. So I'm saying that's my biggest concern is, now, 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:24.280 how does dan Quinn in this defense change how they 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.600 approach the running game of opposing offenses Now that you 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.600 don't have a presence that could just simply just come 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.080 straight downhill, I'm not sure that they have that. Mazzi 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.760 hasn't shown that, Nevill Gallimore hasn't shown that consistently. So 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.520 in order to have that impact, you have to change something, 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:39.040 because you're you have a void. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:39.320 Now. 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.400 Yeah, multiple text messages that are talking about Mazzi. This 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.680 one says we need our first rounder to play like 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:47.440 a first rounder. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:48.280 Now is the time? 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:52.360 This one says Mazi has been so ineffective that we're 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.000 talking about getting guys off the couch to replace Handkins. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.600 And I agree he has been ineffective. Am I have 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:01.360 I given up on Mozzie Smith to this point? 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.600 Absolutely not. He's a first round pick. You're not gonna 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:05.440 give up on him for multiple years. You're gonna give 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.640 him a chance to grow into a role. Is there 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:11.080 a time in the NFL that comes every once in 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:14.480 a while for significant players, significant picks like that to 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:15.440 step into. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.080 A role and they need them to fill that void. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:17.320 Yeah. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.840 Absolutely, that's part of the game, that's part of the league. 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.960 This is that time for Mazzie Smith and I agree. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:24.160 I think he needs to step up in a massive 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.320 way for them to try and fill this void over 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:26.880 four games. 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.440 It's not even this isn't just to make a playoff run. 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:30.480 This is down the. 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.680 Stretch in imperative football games that you need him to 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.000 play as a first round pick. 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:37.000 Yeah, just a little bit more context on what they 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:37.600 have coming up. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.320 So this weekend, Buffalo Bills the number ten rushing offense 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.040 in the NFL. Next week the Miami Dolphins the number 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.560 two rushing offense in the NFL, and then the Detroit 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.560 Lions right after that the number five rushing off solidly great. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:49.280 I love this. 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.640 Yeah, somebody's gonna have to fill that void a terrier 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:53.200 for sure. 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.400 But people have to be realistic about the expectation. And 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:00.280 when everybody's talking about Mozzi. We talked about this earlier 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.120 on when he first got drafted, and I think we 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:04.720 mentioned how you just have to temper your expectations. Just 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.960