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Speaker 1: Streetdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, Nick Harris, John Mashoda,
Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeomans.
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Speaker 3: As the Cowboys get set to take on the Buffalo
Speaker 3: Bills coming up this Sunday.
Speaker 2: They are at ten and three. They are in first
Speaker 2: place in the NFC East for now. But they'll take
Speaker 2: on the Buffalo Bills coming up on Sunday and.
Speaker 4: Get away from us. Hey, don't you take that away
Speaker 4: from Kyle here right now? Man, they are in first place.
Speaker 5: That's all that has to be said. Don't you say
Speaker 5: for now? Okay, they're in first place. Whatever happens happens. Okay.
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Speaker 2: With that being said, news and notes you want Isaiah
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Speaker 7: I'm afraid we're gonna go too fast time here.
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Speaker 8: We could start with Jonathan Hankins with his high ankle
Speaker 8: spring that he suffed for coming out of the game
Speaker 8: against Philadelphia. They were testing and everything yesterday, so Steven
Speaker 8: Jones talked about it on the fan, and then Mike
Speaker 8: McCarthy talked about it yesterday during his press conference. And
Speaker 8: it doesn't sound like there's an official timetable, but Ian
Speaker 8: Rappaport immediately after the game had put out that you know,
Speaker 8: he's expected to be you know, somewhere in that three
Speaker 8: to four week range and should be back by the playoffs,
Speaker 8: if not sooner. But hopefully we'll get a little bit
Speaker 8: more clarity today on the timetable for Hankins and if
Speaker 8: IR is necessary, which I believe, if he's getting put
Speaker 8: on IR, that would put him out for the rest
Speaker 8: of the regular season. But they do have two practice
Speaker 8: squad defensive tackles that they have brought in over the
Speaker 8: course of the season. Carl Davis, who is a thirty
Speaker 8: year old, nine year veteran. He's played in the league
Speaker 8: with quite a few teams. He's got a lot of
Speaker 8: experience in the league. It's tough to find those kind
Speaker 8: of practice squad guys with that much experience. And then
Speaker 8: you also have a Willington Prevalon, who I think has
Speaker 8: the best name on the team, and he's very sneakily
Speaker 8: one of the funniest players on the team. So he's
Speaker 8: a big boy, wears a ninety four. So if you
Speaker 8: see him out there in the interior, that's not DeMarcus
Speaker 8: where that's when we want.
Speaker 5: Next week he's back.
Speaker 3: Which one of these four games down the stretch, Buffalo, Miami, Detroit,
Speaker 3: Washington are you most concerned about without Jonathan Hankins, Yes,
Speaker 3: all of them.
Speaker 10: I would say Detroit and then this week probably jump
Speaker 10: out to me just with the way that they run
Speaker 10: the football, that's where I feel like you're going to
Speaker 10: miss him the most. And honestly, he's kind of exceeded
Speaker 10: my expectations this season, no doubt. Uh, just the way
Speaker 10: him and os have played next to each other. They clearly,
Speaker 10: I mean that group together that really helped solidify things
Speaker 10: in the middle. And so I thought it was a
Speaker 10: good sign when you know, after he left the field,
Speaker 10: he walked back.
Speaker 6: And was sitting on the sideline.
Speaker 10: So I'm thinking, Okay, well, maybe it's not anything too
Speaker 10: serious or he would have just stayed in the back.
Speaker 10: But yeah, high ankle sprain, So who knows how long
Speaker 10: did that keep a guy of his size out? Not great,
Speaker 10: you know, but all things being considered, you look at
Speaker 10: every team across the league and everyone's dealing with some injuries,
Speaker 10: and for the most part of the Cowboys are in
Speaker 10: pretty good shape. So to come out of that game
Speaker 10: with that being the only thing, I guess it's not terrible.
Speaker 6: But I think that we're going to notice his absence.
Speaker 2: It's a big thing.
Speaker 3: Like you said, it might be the only thing, but
Speaker 3: it is a big thing, and it's under the radar.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's one of those big names, but
Speaker 2: it's an impactful one.
Speaker 3: I Mean, we've seen time without Jonathan Hankins in the past.
Speaker 3: Last year, for instance, whenever he went down toward the
Speaker 3: back half of the season, they had to make adjustments
Speaker 3: and the man him not having him in the middle there,
Speaker 3: I think it does a wonder in the wrong way
Speaker 3: for your defensive front.
Speaker 4: But you have an opportunity for some young guys to
Speaker 4: really step up right. So much like when Trayvon went
Speaker 4: Actually you go all the way back there last week
Speaker 4: last year, right when Jay Lou went down, Deron Bland
Speaker 4: showed up right. You didn't expect him to show up.
Speaker 4: You're like, oh, crap, Deron Blann, who's this guy?
Speaker 10: All?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Here you go? He can playmaker? Right, And then this
Speaker 4: year you knew what he was capable of. And then
Speaker 4: Treyvon Diaz goes down, he goes out to where he's
Speaker 4: never really been before, and he balls out again. So
Speaker 4: in terms of opportunities, this is typically how things.
Speaker 5: Work in the NFL.
Speaker 4: How you find out about you know, you know, the
Speaker 4: guys that are on the up and up. So we
Speaker 4: talked about a first round draft pick in Mazzie Smith
Speaker 4: and how he's quote unquote underperformed or slowed to start,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. This is opportunity for
Speaker 4: him it's a huge opportunity. Now, it's not something that
Speaker 4: as Cowboys fans you want in terms of not having
Speaker 4: your your your statue right there in the middle of
Speaker 4: the defense, but it does present an opportunity. You know,
Speaker 4: you do know that most likely you're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 4: You also know that you're you're going to get Jonathan
Speaker 4: Hankins back, So for four weeks you have an opportunity
Speaker 4: to develop players who might not have developed had Jonathan
Speaker 4: Hankins been in that position.
Speaker 10: And so my question to you all you guys, but
Speaker 10: especially because Isaiah just brought that up out the final
Speaker 10: these next four games, so a pretty popular response on Twitter,
Speaker 10: I'm sure you've seen this has been fans talking about, well,
Speaker 10: what about Endamakan Sue.
Speaker 3: There's a text I was just about to go to,
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not against it.
Speaker 4: You can bring him on a practice squad and see
Speaker 4: how he's looking, right, I'm mean, and Dominansou is a freaking.
Speaker 5: Beast of a player when he played.
Speaker 4: I mean, you still got some There's some other names
Speaker 4: that I saw out there too, that are some some
Speaker 4: guys that can play and hold it down. In the middle,
Speaker 4: but you have to bring them on a practice squad
Speaker 4: and to see what they're looking like. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: that's really what it comes down to. Are these guys what.
Speaker 3: They did with the players like that in the past.
Speaker 4: I mean, are these guys capable of still coming in
Speaker 4: and having an impact? You know, it's one thing to
Speaker 4: have to have had a name and to have been
Speaker 4: a very impactful player, but are you still that I
Speaker 4: don't know, right, That's why you bring guys in for workouts.
Speaker 5: That's why you put them on.
Speaker 4: Practice squad and let them have an assimilation and type period,
Speaker 4: and if they can have an impact, then yeah, put
Speaker 4: him in a game. I wouldn't be against if a
Speaker 4: dominicant Sioux could still play at that level that he could,
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that he would be still sitting at
Speaker 4: the crib like that. That's just the reality of this league.
Speaker 4: At that position, everybody needs a run stopper, and if
Speaker 4: there was a dominant run stopper that was still available,
Speaker 4: you're most likely it would have been on a roster already.
Speaker 4: That's not to say that he can't still be productive
Speaker 4: based upon what you're asking him him to do, but
Speaker 4: you just don't know until you step on the field.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not huge ump bring to dumpkin Sue in.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's that major of an issue. If
Speaker 8: it was a season ender for Jonathan Hankins, then yeah,
Speaker 8: probably you will get into that from my perspective at least,
Speaker 8: but he's going to be back for the playoffs, at
Speaker 8: least it appears so far.
Speaker 7: You know, if it was a bigger deal, maybe so.
Speaker 8: But I'm confident with what's in the building to try
Speaker 8: and figure out what to do over the course in
Speaker 8: the next four weeks, and who knows, it might be
Speaker 8: an opportunity for a guy like Mazzie Smith or Neville Gallimore,
Speaker 8: one of these practice squad guys to really be able
Speaker 8: to show that they are the reliable depth in that interior.
Speaker 3: The eight seven zero said, Hey, mister Jones, please go
Speaker 3: sign Sue.
Speaker 2: That's I mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a direct line to Jerry.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has access the world. We'll
Speaker 3: see if we can relay.
Speaker 5: That in for me.
Speaker 7: He'll have to get the two factor authentication from a
Speaker 7: beam though. He'll have to Jones.
Speaker 5: Jerry will yeah, Jerry, Yeah, that's fair. What about what
Speaker 5: are you guys thoughts on, like Quentin Bohana?
Speaker 2: Is he out there?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: See in the open market, Big Bo's out there? Okay,
Speaker 2: are you sure?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I read article maybe a day ago. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think I was.
Speaker 4: Might he's practice squad, so you would have to perch
Speaker 4: him off a practice squad.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think you've seen that and done that.
Speaker 4: I understand I'm saying, but like you're familiarized, right, you're
Speaker 4: not sure. It's not a question mark. You know what
Speaker 4: you're getting. You know that you know the proper expectations
Speaker 4: of that player. That's the risk with some of these
Speaker 4: guys that you would bring off the couch who have
Speaker 4: been sitting all year long is you don't know what
Speaker 4: you're going to get. You don't know what their what
Speaker 4: their workload is, what they're capable of doing, what the
Speaker 4: what the good thing is, what the bad thing is. Like,
Speaker 4: you know this player, you could put him in a
Speaker 4: situation to be successful based upon the proper expectations.
Speaker 5: That's the one positive.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that he's as dominant player as some
Speaker 4: of the other guys that might be available, but you
Speaker 4: at least you know what he's capable of based upon
Speaker 4: what you would ask him to do.
Speaker 7: Tristan Hill, he's available too.
Speaker 5: He is available.
Speaker 2: I know that one for sure.
Speaker 5: Like Tristman, he's undersized. I mean he's he's quick. He's quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, different, different body than what you're trying to replace
Speaker 3: with Jonathan Hankins.
Speaker 8: I really feel confident with what they have here to
Speaker 8: fill out what will be missing with Alam gonna be
Speaker 8: able to make up for Hankins. Absolutely not like Hankins
Speaker 8: has been awesome and just plugging, running lanes and using
Speaker 8: that wide body all season. But I would rather see
Speaker 8: these other guys get an opportunity. I didn't love what
Speaker 8: I saw for Mazie Smith and the snaps that he
Speaker 8: had in the second half last week after Hankins went out,
Speaker 8: and I don't think the coaching staff maybe did either,
Speaker 8: because Neville Gallimore got quite a bit of run there
Speaker 8: and late in the game. So we'll kind of see
Speaker 8: how that shakes out. But it's also an opportunity for
Speaker 8: Osa di Gizua. You know, he's been so great in
Speaker 8: that interior this season. It's it's kind of almost unheralded
Speaker 8: a little bit just because of you know, he doesn't
Speaker 8: show up in the stat box that much, and he
Speaker 8: had a couple of really impactful sacks early in the season,
Speaker 8: but since then it hasn't really been the stat sheet
Speaker 8: filler that you would expect from a dominant defensive lineman.
Speaker 7: But that's what he's been this season.
Speaker 5: And so he's been a disruptor.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's another opportunity for him to kind of fill
Speaker 8: those running lanes and get around a little bit quicker maybe,
Speaker 8: so we'll see.
Speaker 10: I'm still trying to at this roster for a better
Speaker 10: name than Wellington Prevalent. I think you might have it though. Yeah,
Speaker 10: but you guys are actually working. This is what I'm doing.
Speaker 4: My biggest concern with the absence of Jonathan Hankins is
Speaker 4: in order to have the impact, based upon what we've
Speaker 4: seen this season behind him, in order to have the
Speaker 4: impact that he has in his run stopping ability, I
Speaker 4: believe that you have to start running more stunts. I
Speaker 4: think you have to start asking guys to move across
Speaker 4: the face of offensive linemen and filling those gaps with
Speaker 4: linebackers now versus just being able to put your foot
Speaker 4: in the ground in two gap guys, And that's what
Speaker 4: you know, Big Jonathan Hankins was allowing you to do.
Speaker 4: He was allowing you to play straight downhill at least
Speaker 4: at that position, and everybody else to kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: do whatever else that dan Quinn's asking. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: that you can take that same approach now with his absence.
Speaker 4: I think you have to change your defensive scheme on
Speaker 4: the front to elicit the same effective effectiveness that he had.
Speaker 10: Who does a great job of running stunts like you're
Speaker 10: talking about whether we're talking about today's NFL ever, Like
Speaker 10: to you when you think of a group up front
Speaker 10: running stunts like that, like who would you say, is
Speaker 10: something that jumps out like just to give kind of
Speaker 10: team or just or defense?
Speaker 4: I mean just I mean man, yeah, I mean even
Speaker 4: just on this team. Quentin, I mean not Quinn. You
Speaker 4: guys gotta look at a let me get him off.
Speaker 3: He's a practice squad with the Lions, by the way,
Speaker 3: but Diggize.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of the ways in which he
Speaker 4: gets his penetration and his disruption in the backfield is
Speaker 4: he crosses the face of a lot office lineman. He's
Speaker 4: just so quick, so explosive, he can anticipate the snap count.
Speaker 5: He's done a great job of that this year. You know,
Speaker 5: Nick talked about.
Speaker 4: How he hasn't necessarily shown up in the stat sheet,
Speaker 4: but he's definitely shown up for this defense and he
Speaker 4: has really made it difficult on opposing office alliance.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that that he's going to that it
Speaker 5: would just be him doing that.
Speaker 4: Now, right, you have your defensive ends, whoever's out there,
Speaker 4: Mike d Law. You had Osa that was kind of
Speaker 4: you know, had the freedom to kind of cross the
Speaker 4: face of whatever guard is out there. And then you
Speaker 4: had big Jonathan Hankins that can literally just push and
Speaker 4: go straight downhill. Now you don't have that force right
Speaker 4: next to Osa, Diggie Zula, you don't have that. So
Speaker 4: now you either a have to ask Osa to come Hey,
Speaker 4: stop taking it as many risk as you were as
Speaker 4: you were taking before in terms of crossing face and
Speaker 4: choosing a direction. And now I'm asking you to take
Speaker 4: away your biggest asset and just go straight ahead now,
Speaker 4: or I'm going to ask everybody now to run stunts
Speaker 4: right to cross the face and to try to get
Speaker 4: that penetration, get these guys turning their shoulders. And now
Speaker 4: my second level has to be more aggressive towards the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage. So I'm saying that's my biggest concern is, now,
Speaker 4: how does dan Quinn in this defense change how they
Speaker 4: approach the running game of opposing offenses Now that you
Speaker 4: don't have a presence that could just simply just come
Speaker 4: straight downhill, I'm not sure that they have that. Mazzi
Speaker 4: hasn't shown that, Nevill Gallimore hasn't shown that consistently. So
Speaker 4: in order to have that impact, you have to change something,
Speaker 4: because you're you have a void.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, multiple text messages that are talking about Mazzi. This
Speaker 3: one says we need our first rounder to play like
Speaker 3: a first rounder.
Speaker 2: Now is the time?
Speaker 3: This one says Mazi has been so ineffective that we're
Speaker 3: talking about getting guys off the couch to replace Handkins.
Speaker 2: And I agree he has been ineffective. Am I have
Speaker 2: I given up on Mozzie Smith to this point?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. He's a first round pick. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: give up on him for multiple years. You're gonna give
Speaker 3: him a chance to grow into a role. Is there
Speaker 3: a time in the NFL that comes every once in
Speaker 3: a while for significant players, significant picks like that to
Speaker 3: step into.
Speaker 2: A role and they need them to fill that void.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's part of the game, that's part of the league.
Speaker 3: This is that time for Mazzie Smith and I agree.
Speaker 3: I think he needs to step up in a massive
Speaker 3: way for them to try and fill this void over
Speaker 3: four games.
Speaker 2: It's not even this isn't just to make a playoff run.
Speaker 2: This is down the.
Speaker 3: Stretch in imperative football games that you need him to
Speaker 3: play as a first round pick.
Speaker 7: Yeah, just a little bit more context on what they
Speaker 7: have coming up.
Speaker 8: So this weekend, Buffalo Bills the number ten rushing offense
Speaker 8: in the NFL. Next week the Miami Dolphins the number
Speaker 8: two rushing offense in the NFL, and then the Detroit
Speaker 8: Lions right after that the number five rushing off solidly great.
Speaker 5: I love this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, somebody's gonna have to fill that void a terrier
Speaker 8: for sure.
Speaker 4: But people have to be realistic about the expectation. And
Speaker 4: when everybody's talking about Mozzi. We talked about this earlier
Speaker 4: on when he first got drafted, and I think we
Speaker 4: mentioned how you just have to temper your expectations. Just
Speaker 4: because somebody's taken in the first round doesn't mean that
Speaker 4: they're going to come in and have an immediate impact.
Speaker 4: Right Some players are going to require more time.
Speaker 2: Some are. You expect players understood to come into this impact.
Speaker 4: We're not talking about a top fifteen pick now either,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So now he was a second round grade.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so there has to be a realistic expectation of
Speaker 4: him as well. Just because he has a first round
Speaker 4: draft pick next to his name doesn't mean that he's
Speaker 4: going to come into the NFL and wreck shop.
Speaker 6: That's sharing some baggage though for some other players.
Speaker 10: And when I say that, I mean if you're a
Speaker 10: Cowboys fan, if you can sit here right now in
Speaker 10: Isaiah stand back and say, guys, it's just going to
Speaker 10: take him a year, he'll be fine next year there after,
Speaker 10: I think a lot of people would be fine.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: The problem is is that there's a lot of people
Speaker 10: out there thinking is this Tristan Hill, Is this Taco Charlton?
Speaker 10: Obviously different players, you know, we're not compared. But it's
Speaker 10: because you've seen that, and it's not you've seen that
Speaker 10: back in the nineties or eighties Cowboys.
Speaker 6: You've seen that.
Speaker 10: Recon I think that when you don't see an impact
Speaker 10: right away, especially from an organization that does get a
Speaker 10: lot of impact right away from first round picks, people
Speaker 10: start to panic a little bit.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's a great point because in the opposite
Speaker 3: way too, they've been spoiled in these first round picks
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Twenty twenty, Ced lamb BAM
Speaker 3: immediate impact. He's one of the top receivers in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Twenty one, Michael pars Is BAM, one of the best
Speaker 3: pass rushers in the NFL. Twenty two, Tyler Smith BAM
Speaker 3: he could be an All Pro this year too. They've
Speaker 3: had immediate impact from the last three guys before Massie Smith,
Speaker 3: so then the guys before that.
Speaker 2: Then that's where you.
Speaker 5: Go back to uh oh, yep.
Speaker 3: Are we going back to Taco or you're going back
Speaker 3: to Tristan Tristan Hill was the second round pick, I know,
Speaker 3: but he was the first pick of that draft because
Speaker 3: you traded that pick for Martin Cooper.
Speaker 5: All those thoughts are fair.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that anybody's thoughts on this, especially with
Speaker 4: what the film has been put out there with I
Speaker 4: would be more concerned if we hadn't seen any improvement
Speaker 4: this year. And I'm not saying that it was Nanna's
Speaker 4: night and day now from week one to now.
Speaker 5: Sure, but we've seen improvement, right.
Speaker 4: He had some flashes in there where you're like, okay,
Speaker 4: mind it, okay, Like I see I see what you
Speaker 4: what you're working on.
Speaker 5: See the growth.
Speaker 4: I can see the growth that didn't you know, you know,
Speaker 4: two steps four, one step back type of deal. You
Speaker 4: talked about last week's performance. You know, I think the
Speaker 4: week before that he had he had he had did
Speaker 4: relatively well. I can't remember it was a week before
Speaker 4: or two weeks before, but he had stepped up. It's like, okay,
Speaker 4: all right, I see the growth, and then last week happened.
Speaker 4: It's like, ah, okay, but you never like that's a
Speaker 4: that's part of growth.
Speaker 5: Though.
Speaker 4: Some people just go five steps ahead boom, and they're like,
Speaker 4: oh crap, that's what we're talking about. Yeah, that's our
Speaker 4: first round pick. Some guys is like do do and
Speaker 4: then boom boom. Right, they jump up two steps like
Speaker 4: he was jumping on the dog on stairs in Michigan. Okay,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, boom back a game okay,
Speaker 4: and he has to go back and learn, Okay, what
Speaker 4: did I do wrong? He did play against Jason Kelsey
Speaker 4: this week, absolutely right, So there's a prof I'm not
Speaker 4: making excuses for him, but what I'm saying is players
Speaker 4: develop at different paces, and that's all I'm saying. Just
Speaker 4: because he has a first round draft pick next to him,
Speaker 4: you can't change the expectation or the reality that some
Speaker 4: players just develop slower. So you have to give him
Speaker 4: that grace. As much as you are for him to
Speaker 4: be a beast right now, he's not so being that
Speaker 4: you've seen what it is on film. Give him the grace,
Speaker 4: Let him learn, Let him get in for the defensive
Speaker 4: line coach, let him learn from Big Handkins and everybody
Speaker 4: else that's around him. He's learning, right, he's learning, and
Speaker 4: if he was showing regression, then we should have some concern.
Speaker 4: But we've seen flashes of Okay, now, you're still not
Speaker 4: the dominant player that we expect you to be, but
Speaker 4: we see you getting better, right, and we're hoping that
Speaker 4: that you can have a jayln Tober year one a
Speaker 4: year two jump, right, And they haven't utilized him as
Speaker 4: much as we thought that they would, but he made
Speaker 4: a huge jump from what we saw from year one
Speaker 4: to year two.
Speaker 5: So there's that opportunity as well.
Speaker 8: Well, I do think most people won't agree with you,
Speaker 8: the people that are not just the immediate hater, like
Speaker 8: get rid of Himu's just drop him now before it's
Speaker 8: too late, you know.
Speaker 7: Other than those people, most people I think would agree
Speaker 7: with you.
Speaker 8: But those same people would also think in the back
Speaker 8: of their head, like who's to say this will work? Like, well,
Speaker 8: what gets this confidence that it will work? You know, Yeah,
Speaker 8: he's developing, maybe it's slower, but how do we know
Speaker 8: that there's success on the other side?
Speaker 7: Don't You don't part of the NFL. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 7: look at a lot of it.
Speaker 8: I think that's where most of the concern kind of
Speaker 8: comes from with Mazzie Smith, though I don't think it's
Speaker 8: I don't think the majority of the people are the
Speaker 8: aforementioned just haters of the off rip, Like Okay, this
Speaker 8: guy's talk with Charlton without even looking at him. I
Speaker 8: think most of the people kind of have a little
Speaker 8: bit of rationality and look at him and see what's
Speaker 8: gone on this season. Yeah, there's been progression, but like
Speaker 8: it's it's like here, you.
Speaker 6: Know, so I get this text, I just have to
Speaker 6: address it.
Speaker 3: Seven three to two that's why you don't take a
Speaker 3: second round graded player in the first round of what
Speaker 3: is a well known position of need. Should have drafted
Speaker 3: somebody else. They didn't have.
Speaker 7: Joey Porter Junior. Is that what he's asking to draft?
Speaker 7: He wouldn't be JPJ.
Speaker 2: He wasn't even available. I don't know if that's who
Speaker 2: he's talking about.
Speaker 3: Maybe there's somebody else. There was no other first round grade.
Speaker 3: He was the highest rated player that they had on
Speaker 3: the board. And that's what happens. You have fifteen graded
Speaker 3: first round players fifteen to eighteen every single year.
Speaker 2: They were picking at twenty.
Speaker 7: Six, so he was available, but anyway, it was he
Speaker 7: I mean either.
Speaker 3: Way, either way, they didn't pick him for a reason,
Speaker 3: and he was a second round graded player at the
Speaker 3: back end of the first round. That's how it goes.
Speaker 3: If you wanted to talk about the impact of Jonathan
Speaker 3: Hankins and how he could be missed, we just spent
Speaker 3: an entire first segment on one News and note because of
Speaker 3: the impact of that defensive tackle position.
Speaker 2: Do you have any other pressing.
Speaker 7: We're good.
Speaker 5: We're good.
Speaker 2: Let's take our first break.
Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna preview the defensive matchup,
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit more defensive tackle talk against this
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill's offense. How can they get after Josh Allen
Speaker 3: and continue to force some turnovers when we come back
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Speaker 2: we went to dinner and and uh yeah, sorry dude,
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Speaker 7: That's me.
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Speaker 2: We're not doing it while she's pregnant. That ain't happening.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well she's eating hot sounds like a freaking she's
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Speaker 9: Sidon.
Speaker 5: What's your wife's thoughts on the Danny DeVito? I know
Speaker 5: she Danny Danny the video. I'm talking about the same thing.
Speaker 2: The Italian culture kind of being in the forefront.
Speaker 5: They love it, Yeah, they love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's they.
Speaker 3: I mean honestly, seeing all of the different things from
Speaker 3: from the de Vido family and the tailgating, it just
Speaker 3: reminds me of her family for real, because they're from
Speaker 3: Staten Island, so they're right up there.
Speaker 4: Say, the only other city that that would have been
Speaker 4: more perfect in is Boston, like those aside, like New
Speaker 4: York and Boston, those are only two cities that that
Speaker 4: makes sense.
Speaker 3: And in fact, I'm more of an Italian heritage though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would call I would call New York.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, Boston has a little Italy, like they
Speaker 4: have a whole area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what New York is.
Speaker 5: Though it's awesome.
Speaker 8: There was a tweet that said while he was playing
Speaker 8: on Monday night, it was like every team should have
Speaker 8: a third string quarterback. That's just an egregious stereotype. So
Speaker 8: I'm trying to think, like, what would be the funniest one.
Speaker 8: So we were cooking some up yesterday while we're at
Speaker 8: Salvation Armies, who were like, Miami would just be like
Speaker 8: this Puerto Rican dude who like might be kind of drunk.
Speaker 7: Sometimes he's just there for the vies.
Speaker 2: You know, he's got like.
Speaker 5: A pit bull. Well his agent didn't make it any
Speaker 5: better by wearing that suit. Oh, he just lived it up.
Speaker 10: So for Dallas, it would have to be someone who
Speaker 10: is a stereotypical like coboy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, gotta be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 10: It's tough to sit there and say that Jason Kelsey
Speaker 10: perfectly fits Philadelphia. But to me, Jason Kelsey is kind
Speaker 10: of and just everything about like the way he goes.
Speaker 10: I always think of him.
Speaker 3: As see I would throw like Jason Kelcey in like Denver,
Speaker 3: like the mountain man gruff. Yeah, I mean he lived
Speaker 3: like just whenever he records his podcast, he's in like
Speaker 3: a log cabin like.
Speaker 5: The most Dallas cowboy Cowboy.
Speaker 2: And over show that currently on the team. There's no
Speaker 2: doubt in my mind.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, man.
Speaker 6: They showed him a bunch and the sounds of the side.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I kept thinking about I'm watching it as I'm like, man,
Speaker 10: it would be really nice if they had him on
Speaker 10: the defense.
Speaker 2: They showed a lot of Trayvon too. Oh yeah, the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 10: I was like, man, I'm trying to man, you got
Speaker 10: I'm trying to think of like all time, like who
Speaker 10: embodies like a cowboy the most?
Speaker 2: And I know, to be honest, we did the.
Speaker 3: J Novachek, Yeah, Garrison. I was thinking Chuck alle like
Speaker 3: he actually had a ranch, she has all that, like
Speaker 3: back in the day.
Speaker 2: And I think Chuck Ali would be up there.
Speaker 10: Who's the receiver that they had that they signed from
Speaker 10: that he was with the Steelers, it's like two years ago.
Speaker 7: James Washington.
Speaker 10: James Washington actually like had like horses, I think, and
Speaker 10: cows and something that had a ranch and stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So since we're already kind of talking national storyline,
Speaker 3: do it, let's flip the segments. I want to talk
Speaker 3: defensive preview. In the last segment, let's talk about some
Speaker 3: national storylines.
Speaker 2: We can get to what do you got to jam?
Speaker 6: Because you brought up to veto you start with.
Speaker 10: What are you I thought it was kind of like
Speaker 10: a TV show type thing seeing his agent on the
Speaker 10: sideline there, absolutely but thoughts on that from you guys,
Speaker 10: but then also your thoughts on with what he's done,
Speaker 10: does it.
Speaker 6: Improve your chances?
Speaker 10: Because yeah, two or three weeks ago, I was like,
Speaker 10: for sure, those are both wins for the Eagles. And
Speaker 10: now with the way the Eagles are playing and the
Speaker 10: way that it seems like the Giants got something cooking,
Speaker 10: do you feel any differently or do you guys still
Speaker 10: think those are two wins.
Speaker 6: For the Eagles.
Speaker 4: I think Eagles lose to Seattle, Okay, okay, I mean
Speaker 4: that helps you out a little bit. I think that
Speaker 4: it's I think it starts there for them. I think
Speaker 4: they're trying to figure things out right now, and I
Speaker 4: think Seattle needs to win in a bad way. So
Speaker 4: I think Seattle gets that game. But the Giants playing better. Yes,
Speaker 4: because coach Dabole with a capable quarterback is dangerous.
Speaker 5: That's just facts.
Speaker 4: That's something I've been talking about since he got hired,
Speaker 4: he hasn't had a quarterback.
Speaker 5: That he can lean upon. This due's a complete dog.
Speaker 4: I mean you can look at freaking Josh Allen to
Speaker 4: see how he's struggling right now without him. I mean
Speaker 4: he's been struggling since he left, and that dude is
Speaker 4: a He's dangerous now. And de Vito could handle any
Speaker 4: kind of workload and the curve balls that Da Bowl
Speaker 4: really wants to put into the offense, they might be
Speaker 4: able to sneak it.
Speaker 5: You know, and when you have a team that's riding high.
Speaker 4: I talk a lot about how players really depend on confidence.
Speaker 4: You have a confident team, you remember, you remember how
Speaker 4: good of a player you are, regardless of how your
Speaker 4: team perception might be, regardless of how successful you might
Speaker 4: have been. If you're playing with confidence. They have a
Speaker 4: whole NFL team playing with the confidence. That's not the
Speaker 4: same team that showed up on film for the first
Speaker 4: half of the season. I don't care who it is.
Speaker 4: I love the sentiment.
Speaker 5: I do. I hear you, I love it. I disagree.
Speaker 3: I don't think Tommy DeVito is the answer. And I'm
Speaker 3: not saying that or I mean he bad.
Speaker 2: He had one really good game eighteen for twenty six.
Speaker 3: He passed for two hundred and forty six yards three
Speaker 3: touchdownst was against Washington. They won that game thirty one nineteen.
Speaker 3: Washington's the worst defense in football right now. Then you
Speaker 3: go up against the New England Patriots, one of the
Speaker 3: more struggling teams in football right now, but to repeat
Speaker 3: them ten ten to seven, really good defense with missing
Speaker 3: five of their six top players.
Speaker 2: Then you've got.
Speaker 3: Green Bay, and he threw for one hundred and ninety
Speaker 3: one yard against New England, by the way, and then
Speaker 3: he throws for one hundred and fifty eight yards against
Speaker 3: Green Bay. They do win that game. That's the best win.
Speaker 3: But he didn't do a whole lot in that game.
Speaker 3: He had some help. And I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3: With confidence level and the way that it's rising and
Speaker 3: you're rallying around a quarterback, maybe it's a insanity effect
Speaker 3: up in New York again, Dobbs is another one. You
Speaker 3: can build confidence around a guy that helps, and they
Speaker 3: can get exposed catalyze your team. Yes, but then you yeah,
Speaker 3: whenever you go up against legitimate opponents that are trying
Speaker 3: to make an impact, trying to make a playoff push.
Speaker 5: That's different. I get it. I get it. But crazier
Speaker 5: things have happened, no doubt, crazier things have happened.
Speaker 3: The thing I think that benefits the Giants the most
Speaker 3: in this scenario is the fact that they play twice
Speaker 3: in three weeks, because you see them.
Speaker 2: Once, then you go again two weeks later.
Speaker 3: That's what I think benefits Stable, what benefits the Giants,
Speaker 3: And if you don't get them the first time around.
Speaker 3: You got a chance to spoil their season at the
Speaker 3: end and really love that work things.
Speaker 4: To answer your question, Jam, you know, aside from the
Speaker 4: Seattle game, I think that the Giants make it interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't know if they hope they pull it out,
Speaker 4: but I think that they make it competitive as heck,
Speaker 4: at least in the beginning. They say in the beginning
Speaker 4: of the game, first half of the game, I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see it.
Speaker 5: I really can't wait to see it.
Speaker 4: I love seeing players and teams get their swag back,
Speaker 4: as long as they're not playing Dallas.
Speaker 8: I have three of these last three, of these last
Speaker 8: four games that the Eagles have, they're going up against
Speaker 8: desperate teams.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 8: You look at the Seahawks. They've lost five to their
Speaker 8: last six. They basically need to win out to make
Speaker 8: the playoffs. The Giants, they're one game out of a
Speaker 8: playoff spot, which is wild to think of when they
Speaker 8: started two and eight, But here they are at five
Speaker 8: and eight, one game out of one game out of
Speaker 8: a so and they have two games gets the Giants,
Speaker 8: So we'll see. I think it's gonna get interesting, for sure.
Speaker 3: Mike and Milwaukee with a nice stat I do not
Speaker 3: have to go double check this just to make sure.
Speaker 2: But the Eagles have not beaten Seattle in fifteen years.
Speaker 3: Two thousand and eight was the last time that they
Speaker 3: beat the Sea Birds better than others.
Speaker 2: You no, I agree with you on that one.
Speaker 7: Listen.
Speaker 5: Seattle is a really good team. Yeah, they're a really
Speaker 5: good team. They just hacked.
Speaker 7: They just had some bad stretch. They have lost seven straight.
Speaker 5: That is a fact.
Speaker 3: They've lost seven straight against the Seahawks. Nice, let's go Seahawks,
Speaker 3: get it done, keep the streak alive.
Speaker 7: Last three have been on the road.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 5: Where's the game at Seattle, Sat? Yeh yeah, that's yeah,
Speaker 5: I hope.
Speaker 2: So we'll pick that game this way.
Speaker 5: You just right picked that game. My answers in let's roll.
Speaker 6: You want to see more agents dressing like that?
Speaker 7: Oh please?
Speaker 4: How is did he have to have Individo in order
Speaker 4: to wear that's quarterbacks?
Speaker 2: I think it's marketing.
Speaker 5: I think it's how many endorsement? Really you got? Well?
Speaker 2: He was on the television screen two minutes ago.
Speaker 5: I mean we were.
Speaker 3: We've got a NFL networked on and the agent not
Speaker 3: Tommy Devido, The agent was on the television screen a
Speaker 3: minute ago.
Speaker 5: College players, right, do.
Speaker 8: What you got be going up to Rutgers and Sacred University,
Speaker 8: be like, all right, guys.
Speaker 10: Comes tide with me, my uncle, next one I had.
Speaker 10: If we can move on, I want to talk about
Speaker 10: what I think is the biggest NFL storyline off of
Speaker 10: this past weekend, and that's the Caadarius Tony lined up
Speaker 10: off sides and Patrick Mahomes losing his mind on the
Speaker 10: sideline and then you know, even complaining in the postgame
Speaker 10: audio you could hear when he went up to Josh
Speaker 10: Allen after the game, very very un characteristic for Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 10: who is I don't think any question become the face
Speaker 10: of the league, and he is a sense apologize talking
Speaker 10: about how it was probably a bad look for kids
Speaker 10: that are watching the game, and that certainly is something
Speaker 10: someone that would say is a face of the league.
Speaker 6: So I wanted to get your guys take on that.
Speaker 10: And then also their part of a bit was just
Speaker 10: I'm a big Patrick Mahomes fan, not just the way
Speaker 10: he plays, the way he carries himself, and it kind
Speaker 10: of reminded me a little bit of Dak after the
Speaker 10: playoff game when they lost to San Francisco here in
Speaker 10: January of twenty twenty two, and the fans through some
Speaker 10: stuff and it went and it was directed at the
Speaker 10: refs and responded when he was asking multiple times about this,
Speaker 10: he said, well, credit to them, credit to them.
Speaker 6: And it was just a very unlike Dak moment to
Speaker 6: basically be like, yeah, throw it up at him.
Speaker 10: And he issued apology a couple of days after that
Speaker 10: as well. So I do find it interesting how there
Speaker 10: are moments when even these guys that it seems like
Speaker 10: nothing can draw them off sides. But then how it
Speaker 10: really doesn't matter because these guys.
Speaker 5: I saw what you do that, yeah.
Speaker 10: And so it's in their character that just because Patrick
Speaker 10: Mahomes has that one moment, it doesn't change like his
Speaker 10: reputation for me, Like, you know, I think that he's
Speaker 10: a great guy to have as the face of the league.
Speaker 10: He had he had a moment where.
Speaker 5: His passion came out.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm gonna speak for him, not knowing any of
Speaker 10: this for certain, but this is what the way I
Speaker 10: felt of it when I looked at I think it
Speaker 10: some of the frustration is from the week before not
Speaker 10: getting the pass interference call against Green Bay. And I
Speaker 10: think there's a little bit of frustration too with can
Speaker 10: I get some weapons around me over here? Can you
Speaker 10: guys help me out a little bit? And he's not
Speaker 10: going to be the guy that yells at the teammates
Speaker 10: or yells at Andy Reid or calls out the front office.
Speaker 6: And so I'm not saying that those are the main reasons.
Speaker 6: I just think that there's kind of a melting pot
Speaker 6: of things with him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you kind of took it out of my mouth there.
Speaker 8: As far as I think, it's just a culmination of
Speaker 8: all the things that have kind of gone wrong in
Speaker 8: Kansas City offensively for him this year, and then it
Speaker 8: just kind of boiled over with a bad officiating mistake.
Speaker 8: I think I thought it was childish from Mahomes, and
Speaker 8: I'm a Mahomes guy. I have a family from White House, Texas.
Speaker 8: He's East Texas boy, watched him play baseball growing up,
Speaker 8: so like, I very much love Mahomes. But that was
Speaker 8: a childish moment for sure. And it's he's just super competitive.
Speaker 8: He's ultra competitive. You can see that whenever moments like
Speaker 8: that happen. But yeah, I'm just gonna tweet out a
Speaker 8: different receiver every week for Kansas.
Speaker 7: City to draft in the first round.
Speaker 8: I think this week, let's see, we've already done Romeo
Speaker 8: Dunesay and Xavier Worthy. Let's go I don't know, let's
Speaker 8: just go, let's go another you dub Jalen well done?
Speaker 7: Another East Texas boy?
Speaker 5: Don't they have? Isn't ross on their practice squad? Whatever
Speaker 5: happened to him? Just right?
Speaker 7: You know he's playing. He's playing, I think as far
Speaker 7: as I can tell.
Speaker 4: Let's address a couple of things in regards to that story.
Speaker 4: We got to get to an offense here in a second.
Speaker 4: So Patrick mahomes super duper passionate. I feel him, I
Speaker 4: feel his frustration. Do I like how he responded?
Speaker 5: Not at all?
Speaker 4: Right, But the reality is he's a human being and
Speaker 4: his emotions ran it over. Okay, they ran over, and
Speaker 4: he's apologetic for that. I think every athlete has had
Speaker 4: a moment like that. Just every athlete hasn't had a
Speaker 4: moment like that while on national TV.
Speaker 5: That's the reality.
Speaker 4: If you knew the stuff that happens in practice, some perspective.
Speaker 5: And the perception of players would be completely different.
Speaker 4: If the fans knew the stuff that happened in practice,
Speaker 4: and the things that were said between players and said
Speaker 4: and you know fights, all that kind of stuff. None
Speaker 4: of that stuff ever gets out. Okay, so understand that
Speaker 4: this is not Yeah, it's outside of his character. But
Speaker 4: he is a passionate, emotional player. And when you have
Speaker 4: a play that you worked on maybe a handful of times,
Speaker 4: and you go out there and you execute it to
Speaker 4: perfection and the most important part of the game to
Speaker 4: win the ball game, and you have that pulled back
Speaker 4: away from you because of a call, yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 4: lose it a little bit.
Speaker 5: Because all the preparation, all everything that you've that.
Speaker 4: You've put in in a very important game for them
Speaker 4: in terms of their playoff, you know, implications in terms
Speaker 4: of the rivalry, all those things. All that just came
Speaker 4: out at one time. And I get it. I get it,
Speaker 4: and I hate that it was on TV for him,
Speaker 4: but I that's it.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: I don't think he didn't plan on that. It just
Speaker 4: came out, man. So I don't fault him for that.
Speaker 4: I know he will be more aware of it going forward,
Speaker 4: but I don't fault him for having those those those
Speaker 4: feelings and those emotions because those things happen, especially in
Speaker 4: those heightened moments like that. In terms of Kadarius Tony,
Speaker 4: there's been a lot of controversy in regards to that.
Speaker 4: Listen as having played the position and having had the
Speaker 4: guys play the position in You know, for me, if
Speaker 4: you're not calling that the entire game, don't call it
Speaker 4: in that moment. I'm not saying that it's okay for
Speaker 4: him to line up like that, but as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 5: They tell you to take every inch.
Speaker 4: It take every single inch, right, And what happens is
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons lines up like that.
Speaker 5: People the Cowboys nation would go insane.
Speaker 4: If Michael Parsons lined up like that the entire game
Speaker 4: and then he gets a sack on the final game
Speaker 4: to end the ballgame. Now Dallas Cowboys win, and they say, oh,
Speaker 4: all sides. People would lose their mind. They would lose
Speaker 4: their mind and say, Okay, I'm not saying that he
Speaker 4: wasn't off side, but he's been off side all game
Speaker 4: and you didn't call it. You didn't You didn't tell
Speaker 4: him to get back. It's not like you told him
Speaker 4: to get back and he came back up again. Kadarius
Speaker 4: Ony lined up like that the entire game, he took
Speaker 4: every inch that the referees allowed him to have, and
Speaker 4: then the most important play of the game, they call
Speaker 4: that flag. I think that's BS. That's just me right,
Speaker 4: not making any excuse. I'm just saying, if you were
Speaker 4: going to call that, you had all game to call it,
Speaker 4: don't call it on that play. And people are gonna say, well,
Speaker 4: they didn't know that play was going to result in.
Speaker 4: That doesn't matter. It's the last play of the game.
Speaker 4: There is the last you know, towards the end of
Speaker 4: the game, Like, don't don't call.
Speaker 5: That right then and there.
Speaker 3: That's the hard part though, is it was he more
Speaker 3: offsides on that play than he was on earlier plays.
Speaker 3: I mean, you got to go back and look at
Speaker 3: every single agross the line.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like he was like he was in the
Speaker 4: neutral But if you go back to the rest of
Speaker 4: the game, he was doing the same thing. He was
Speaker 4: lining up the same.
Speaker 3: I'm saying like, maybe comparatively, it was different that play
Speaker 3: than it wasn't any other play.
Speaker 5: Maybe he wasn't over.
Speaker 2: The big toe over the line beforehand, and then it's
Speaker 2: it's back.
Speaker 4: The thing is that there's a there's a when you
Speaker 4: step up to the line of scrimage as a receiver,
Speaker 4: you look at there. You look at most times you
Speaker 4: look at the at the referee, and the referee tells
Speaker 4: you straight up and down, hey, like get back. Like
Speaker 4: it's literally obviously, it's not like he gives you like
Speaker 4: a head and not like he's like, hey, get back.
Speaker 4: You look at him as a quick glance, and I'm
Speaker 4: right back to seeing asact what's going on with the play.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you get into and you just line up. After
Speaker 4: a while of lining up that way, he's not telling
Speaker 4: you to get back. Okay, I'm good, Like I'm not
Speaker 4: even at a certain point, I'm not even looking over
Speaker 4: there anymore because I know he hasn't. I haven't had
Speaker 4: a problem to this to this point of the game.
Speaker 4: So now I'm just lining up the same way I've
Speaker 4: been lining up the entire game. And if he didn't
Speaker 4: call it the whole game, then I'm finding the whole game.
Speaker 4: Why would it now be different right now? Because he
Speaker 4: was a full yard, He was not.
Speaker 5: A four yards, he was not a full yard.
Speaker 7: It was pretty three feet had half a foot over
Speaker 7: the line.
Speaker 5: I'll say, yeah, he's talking about inches. You're literally talk
Speaker 5: about inches.
Speaker 3: You're on the ball, that's one thing. If you were
Speaker 3: over the ball, that's the other thing.
Speaker 8: Giving the benefit of the doubt because young receivers are
Speaker 8: taught every single time you line up, and he didn't
Speaker 8: do it.
Speaker 4: I hear you until you're in it, right, Like it
Speaker 4: sounds like it sounds good until you So when you're
Speaker 4: going through a whole game and you're doing that, like after,
Speaker 4: I'm not checking with you anymore, right, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, might glance and if you're not telling me
Speaker 4: to get back off a glance like I'm right, I'm
Speaker 4: talking about like I have a second glance.
Speaker 5: That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Bow them line up. And I'm not saying that he
Speaker 4: did that or not. I'm just saying, like, after a
Speaker 4: whole game of lining up the same way and you
Speaker 4: have no problems with it, now all of a sudden
Speaker 4: you do. That's why there was a big That's why
Speaker 4: those guys responded the way they did. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: so I'm not again, I'm not saying that he should
Speaker 4: have been lining up off sides, but in his eyes,
Speaker 4: he wasn't off.
Speaker 5: Sides because he didn't get flag for it. Their whole game.
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Speaker 3: I know when we come back, we're gonna quickly talk
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Speaker 3: what Buffalo does well on offense.
Speaker 4: Go, Well, they own Yeah, they have weapons everywhere. I mean,
Speaker 4: they do have the weapons. Now, the guy who's distributing
Speaker 4: the ball necessarily isn't having the greatest of years, and
Speaker 4: I think he's really missing his offensive coordinator from two
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 2: But he's tied for the lead in total touchdowns.
Speaker 5: He throws all around.
Speaker 4: Dude, But you're talking about one of the quote unquote
Speaker 4: and still perceived that way by me. One of the
Speaker 4: best passers in the game right in terms of abilities
Speaker 4: and just he's a dog, he's a beast. Okay, he
Speaker 4: just needs a freaking oc This dude only has I think,
Speaker 4: what four games over three hundred this year, and I
Speaker 4: think he only has the one game two games without
Speaker 4: an interception, four games over three hundred. Were talking about
Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Four games over three hundred this year and
Speaker 4: only two games without an interception.
Speaker 5: This dude struggling. He strugg and.
Speaker 4: Then he has cooks, he has digs, he has Kincaid,
Speaker 4: He has a lot of dudes they can get the
Speaker 4: ball to. But if he can't, you know, if he's
Speaker 4: getting pressure on him, he's thrown it away, he's thrown
Speaker 4: it into coverage. If he's trying to make a big play,
Speaker 4: he's trying to force things into it because their offense
Speaker 4: hasn't been consistent enough for them to have a boat
Speaker 4: of confidence for him to feel the necessity not to
Speaker 4: make a big play. He's forcing he's he's doing what
Speaker 4: Dak did last year.
Speaker 6: Let me just throw one thing real quick here on this.
Speaker 10: He is a different player at home, though you look
Speaker 10: at his numbers at home, His QB rating at home
Speaker 10: is one oh ninety seven. His QB rating on the
Speaker 10: road is seventy eight point one. Wow, it's like way.
Speaker 2: Dead's at home in a huge difference.
Speaker 10: That's the only thing, Like, I agree with everything that
Speaker 10: you're saying. I just think that there is a chance
Speaker 10: that you might get the best version of LM for
Speaker 10: this game.
Speaker 5: Sorry, no, no, you're fine. No, that's it. That's all I
Speaker 5: have to say. It's just he's he's having a rough year.
Speaker 3: The other thing about it is, I mean he's coming
Speaker 3: off of a mediocre game. Twenty three of forty two
Speaker 3: passing two hundred and thirty three yards, He was sacked
Speaker 3: three times, had one touchdown, one interception. His best receiver,
Speaker 3: stuff ONGs, had eleven targets, four catches on eleven targets,
Speaker 3: and he had twenty four yards along of nine.
Speaker 2: So they won that game. They got the win in Arrowhead.
Speaker 2: You do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3: You survive, you advance. But they did not play well
Speaker 3: as across.
Speaker 5: They don't have a chemistry right now.
Speaker 3: It's that defense that really led them in that win
Speaker 3: in Arrowhead. And we'll talk about the defense significantly tomorrow.
Speaker 3: But whenever you don't have your best game, but you
Speaker 3: come out.
Speaker 2: With a win. Does that build confidence going into the
Speaker 2: next one.
Speaker 4: I think most teams yes, But this team, as strong
Speaker 4: as they are on defense, I think they're an offensive
Speaker 4: team historically. Historically they've been an offensive team. That's what
Speaker 4: you've led with. And you looked on another side and
Speaker 4: like man coach Frazer got them boys playing on defense,
Speaker 4: Poyer and all them. But offensively, you rely on the
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bill scoring a ton of points and Diggs being
Speaker 4: a complete dog, and Allen and Diggs being on the
Speaker 4: same page. And now you got a tight end in
Speaker 4: there and KK who can freaking run the heck of
Speaker 4: a great routes and catch the ball.
Speaker 5: And they've been that.
Speaker 4: So they have all those pieces still in place, but
Speaker 4: they don't for whatever reason, between the play calling and
Speaker 4: the players, like they're not they're not jelling. They haven't
Speaker 4: been jelling for the last two years. They just haven't.
Speaker 4: This year is obviously pretty bad, but they're still dangerous.
Speaker 4: You know, they're still dangerous. This is one of those
Speaker 4: things where it's like, I hope they don't catch on
Speaker 4: fire this week, because you know what they're capable of.
Speaker 8: We talk about all these weapons and surely like that.
Speaker 8: That's that's what made it. That is what has made
Speaker 8: Buffalo so dangerous over the course of the last few years.
Speaker 8: And Josh Allen being able to do that. But up front,
Speaker 8: they are a mountain. Like the smallest guy on their
Speaker 8: offensive line is six foot five, three hundred and eighteen pounds.
Speaker 8: That's the smallest guy on their offensive line.
Speaker 5: Who is that?
Speaker 8: That would be Connor McGovern. Not Connor McGovern. Everyone is
Speaker 8: familiar with. But Connor McGovern.
Speaker 3: No, that is the Condor mcgovernment. Everyone's familiar is it?
Speaker 5: It is?
Speaker 8: I thought he was really that's exactly, but yeah, I
Speaker 8: six foot five, three hundred and eighteen pounds.
Speaker 7: That's that's the smallest guy up front.
Speaker 8: And whenever we factor in that, Jonathan Hankins is going
Speaker 8: to be out for this game.
Speaker 7: I think that's a certainty.
Speaker 8: And this password stunit is going to have to come
Speaker 8: up live to get get in control of Josh Allen
Speaker 8: kind of contained the pocket what they were able to
Speaker 8: do against Jalen Hurt, similar stuff. They're gonna have to
Speaker 8: get through a mountain first in Buffalo and the cold
Speaker 8: against a lot of strength and size. That's That's where
Speaker 8: I have my biggest concerns when I when I look
Speaker 8: at this Buffalo offense.
Speaker 3: The last weather update in Buffalo was what forty.
Speaker 8: Forty high winds, So we'll see not too bad or
Speaker 8: not high winds, but high winds comparatively to here.
Speaker 5: They're prepared for that.
Speaker 7: That one day last week.
Speaker 6: I've ever been anywhere, Yeah, Chicago, Detroit, wherever that.
Speaker 5: Was, would have kicked the fifty yard or in that
Speaker 5: it would have came back and hit him in. Oh yeah.
Speaker 10: It got to the point he got It got to
Speaker 10: the point where they just didn't even do anything. They
Speaker 10: took all the footballs and put them to the side
Speaker 10: because it was even worth punning, kicking field goals, throwing passes, anything,
Speaker 10: And it was just like, okay, well when the quarterbacks
Speaker 10: come out, we're going right back in.
Speaker 3: This is what it sounds like, something you put like
Speaker 3: the circus music to, especially especially.
Speaker 10: When everything was like blown around people's cancer and around blocking.
Speaker 6: You know, my heads are blowing around er.
Speaker 5: Did you lean into the win like Michael Jackson? I
Speaker 5: wish I would j just leaning like this?
Speaker 3: All right, quick trivia question to end out the show.
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott has defeated twenty nine of the thirty two
Speaker 3: teams in the NFL. Of course, one of those that
Speaker 3: he has not defeated would be the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: What are the other two teams?
Speaker 7: Buffalo and Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Buffalo is one, That's why I'm asking the question.
Speaker 7: Baltimore.
Speaker 2: It's not Baltimore.
Speaker 3: He has defeated Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: He's one and oh against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 7: Oh, that's right.
Speaker 8: They didn't have Dak in that December game of twenty twenty.
Speaker 7: I'd have to be an AFC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is an AFC team.
Speaker 2: So you've got the Bills as one.
Speaker 3: Jaguars, No, No, they've beaten Jeeves, not the Chiefs. He's
Speaker 3: beaten the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: One and one against the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: Bronco.
Speaker 3: It is the Denver Broncos. Oh and two against the
Speaker 3: Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5: So there you go.
Speaker 3: H his career numbers, he only had one game against Buffalo,
Speaker 3: thirty two of forty nine.
Speaker 5: Uh, he had.
Speaker 3: Two touchdowns an interception through for three hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: five Thanksgiving game belief.
Speaker 7: So yeah, I believe.
Speaker 10: So do you know the starting quarterback for the Cowboys
Speaker 10: was the last time they played in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Ooh true bloodsoell was it not Romo?
Speaker 6: No, it's more recent than more recent.
Speaker 5: Okay, what is that average?
Speaker 2: Kell?
Speaker 5: Beam was deck averaging right now in the air averaging?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you go, all right?
Speaker 5: That does it for us.
Speaker 3: We'll talk more about Dak Prescott versus that Bill's defense tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Isaiah will still be hyped up on his black rifle
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