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Speaker 6: You how are you doing? You up in here with

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Speaker 6: the fresh new cut? Man, y'all suld see war Martin

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Speaker 5: And we pulled into the garage together today.

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Speaker 3: Well, I said, I moved into Hollywood, so might as

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Speaker 3: well start living like Hollywood. So I walked down the street,

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Speaker 3: too much for a haircut. Holly weird. That is definitely

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: The NBA announced yesterday that Memphis Frizzli's guard John Moran

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Speaker 3: has been suspended for twenty five games. Without pay for

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Speaker 3: conduct that mental to the league. Just in case you've

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Speaker 3: been under a rock since. You know, in the last

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Speaker 3: two months of the NBA season, John Moran initially was

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Speaker 3: a Shotgun Willies. Ah, And you know, I would have

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Speaker 6: Didn't hear nothing about it? Not a single word, not

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Speaker 3: However, John Moran famously frequented Shotgun Willies. One day after

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Speaker 3: a Nuggets game or Nuggets Grizzlies came, I should say,

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Speaker 5: With Adam Silver.

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Speaker 3: He's so sorry, he's apologized, this and that and the

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Speaker 3: third he goes to Florida for a couple of days,

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Speaker 3: what I don't know. I don't know the exact timeline.

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Speaker 3: Let's give it not too long down the line. You

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Speaker 3: see him on Instagram live with on a friend of

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Speaker 3: There's been varying reports depending on who you're talking to

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Speaker 3: By whatever. Adam Silver said he didn't care whether it

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Speaker 3: to get you twenty five games. This is crap.

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Speaker 6: This is one hundred percent total crap. This is this

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Speaker 6: is a bad look and it's a bad move, and

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Speaker 6: it's got undertones all over it. This feels like Kyriad

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Speaker 6: and me again. This feels like Craig Hodges. This feels

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Speaker 6: like my mood. I do rau aka Chris Jackson for

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Speaker 6: you young bucks that don't know who that gentleman is

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Speaker 6: one of the greatest peer shooters played with Shaq at

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Speaker 6: Lsu to ever come to the NBA. I have so

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Speaker 6: many problems with this because let me let me just

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Speaker 6: let me clarify this. I'm not defending Jean Morant. I'm

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Speaker 3: If you and I are out right now and I

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be like, oh yo, know Mark Yo, chill, chill, chill,

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Speaker 6: bro chill, chill, chill, because I know what you got

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Speaker 3: Sure, so he doesn't have that around. So I'm not

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Speaker 6: But what the NBA and Adam Silver is doing is egregious.

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Speaker 6: It's overkilled, and I don't like when leagues try to

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Speaker 6: send a message when someone has not committed a crime,

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Speaker 6: they've not broken any.

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Speaker 3: Laws at all. You can bring up all the other

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Speaker 3: incidents is that we've heard about the police and every

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Speaker 3: have checked it out. There was no findings there. Now,

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Speaker 3: whether you want to believe that or not.

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Speaker 6: All right, do you believe what the police are saying

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Speaker 6: what the police said they went and found out after

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Speaker 6: all of these different incidents. But twenty five games, Article

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Speaker 6: section nine, Article six.

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Speaker 3: Section nine, Article six.

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Speaker 6: Of the CBA explains punishment in the rules for guns

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Speaker 6: in the NBA very clearly.

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Speaker 3: You must report if you have them. You're not allowed

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Speaker 3: to have a more league related facilities, plane stadiums, arenas

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Speaker 6: So people will go, well, what about Denver. We don't

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Speaker 6: know how the gun got to the club in Denver.

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Speaker 6: We know how some of these guys roll with clicks

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Speaker 6: and roll with cruise. They ain't on a team flight,

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Speaker 6: They're on their own flight. But he said it wasn't

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Speaker 6: he sold. I got to take him at face value,

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Speaker 6: just like when he did his interview. I told you

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Speaker 6: all it was crap. When he did his interview with

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Speaker 6: y'all can believe I know you want Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 6: I got blowback for that, but I told you guys,

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Speaker 6: this might just be who he is. But the NBA

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Speaker 6: acting like they're damn a what is the ATF? Come

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Speaker 6: on now, man, twenty five games. You're affecting this man's

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Speaker 6: livelihood now and he's doing it on his own.

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Speaker 3: Fine, but he hasn't broken any NBA rules.

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Speaker 6: Adam Silver, the same man that just sat on Showtime

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Speaker 6: with Kevin Garnett and said that he thought the league

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Speaker 6: was too physical in the nineties the greatest era of

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Speaker 6: basketball now wants to.

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Speaker 3: Play tough guy. As he's watched guys tamper openly in

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Speaker 6: We never lived in a time where players can just

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Speaker 6: say where the hell they want to go play. That's

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Speaker 6: called tampering. I mean, like like that series, like you've

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Speaker 6: allowed this, you wanted to be the player's commission. Now

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Speaker 6: you want to play the same league that has artists

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Speaker 6: performing af time of the All Star Game, All start

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Speaker 6: weekend promote these guys that have multiple gun charges, like

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Speaker 6: have been indicted by the FBI, been indicted by the

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Speaker 3: But yeah, you.

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Speaker 6: Could come dance a jig for us. You could come

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Speaker 6: perform and bring us traders and bring us money. But

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Speaker 6: we're gonna suspend the kid twenty five games for perception

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Speaker 6: or a look, man, dog, this this is overkilled. And lastly,

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Speaker 6: I'll say this with these leagues, and we saw this

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Speaker 6: by that, and he pulled back Adam Silver and some

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Speaker 6: of these other leagues. These people that wield way too

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Speaker 3: In my opinion.

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Speaker 6: They're wielding way too much power for people that don't

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Speaker 6: look like them, but help them be the multi millionaires

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Speaker 6: they are. I'm glad that the Union is spoke out

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Speaker 6: against this, and I stand strong on is this It's crap.

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Speaker 6: The NBA is the fakest justice league I've ever seen

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Speaker 6: in my life.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sick, all right, hold on, because when he

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Speaker 3: got the eight games last time, it was not enough.

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Speaker 6: I didn't say it wasn't enough. That it comes from

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Speaker 3: I was sitting here and everybody I was sitting here

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Speaker 3: how oh, how are you going to do the drive

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Speaker 3: through therapy and Floorda, how are you gonna have this

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Speaker 3: guy back so quickly? How are you gonna do this chinette?

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Speaker 3: And so to me, twenty five games is just about right.

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Speaker 3: Like it's about five games more than I would have expected.

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Speaker 3: I think probably the NBA Players Association and the Union

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Speaker 3: should be lobbying on his behalf to get it to

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Speaker 3: be about twenty games. But outside of that, the problem

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Speaker 3: with what everything that you're just talking about. He did

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Speaker 3: break an NBA rule. He broke the rule that he did,

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Speaker 3: like he said he was gonna he went to Adam

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Speaker 3: Silver said I'm never gonna do this again, and then

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Speaker 3: did it again. Is it right?

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Speaker 5: Is it in a collective bar and agreement that talk handshake?

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Speaker 3: See? No, I got a problem with that talk handshake stuff. No, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go keep going because no, because if it

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Speaker 3: isn't in the DA. Look the CBA is ratified and

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Speaker 3: argue they're not going to They're not. The NBA is

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Speaker 3: not going to pursue punishment that has not already been

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Speaker 3: ratified and agreed upon in the CBA. That's not how

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Speaker 3: this works. They're not making up laws as they go along.

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Speaker 3: They're just not. That's why the NBA PA has a

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Speaker 3: president who has spoken out about this and said, look,

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Speaker 3: we disagree with the amount of games. If it was

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Speaker 3: the NBA Players Association is going to stand up for

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Speaker 3: him and represent him in this Moo, did he break?

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Speaker 3: Am I missing something? He went to the commissioner and

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Speaker 3: said he wasn't gonna do it again. So that's something.

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Speaker 3: He did it again.

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Speaker 6: If you tell the commission so rules and I'm just asking,

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Speaker 6: I'm not trying to be a smartest, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just asking to stop. Then conduct detrimental to the league

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Speaker 3: has a very wide definition NBS.

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Speaker 6: That's BS, that's BS, that's BS. I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 6: riding with that. I'm sorry. That's like I said.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: So if if you say, hey, I won't do it again,

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Speaker 3: that writing that is that a writing law and the

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Speaker 3: don't have the freaking CBA printed out right here right now,

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Speaker 3: but I do know this. You go up to the boss,

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Speaker 3: the commissioner of the league, and you say I'm going

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Speaker 5: And I understand he did not break the law.

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Speaker 3: However, we cannot just act like he's not going down

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Speaker 7: Say that all right, what I am saying, Okay, saying

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Speaker 6: All right, Well, I think it's crap. I think it's crap,

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Speaker 3: I searched.

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Speaker 6: I searched through the CBA as much as I could,

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Speaker 3: But I want to rewind back to No. I want

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Speaker 3: that's the whole point. No, No, the whole point is that's

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Speaker 6: That's the morale. That's the best part about it. That's

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Speaker 3: That's what your U meters the league, that's what you

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Speaker 3: N you know, what whatever the hell you need they

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Speaker 3: need like Dwight Howard, We'll play in China. Like Dwight Howard,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna play in Taiwan. You could do whatever the

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Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not riding with this man. This is crap.

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Speaker 6: This is this is this is this is Adam Silver.

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Speaker 3: You were and if you remember, no, if you remember

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Speaker 6: Hold on, first of all, the Memphis Grizzly had already

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Speaker 6: receipts are there. That's what I said about it. I

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, when you start

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Speaker 3: Tell you that a problem with every professionals to me

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Speaker 3: nothing to him. Come on, now, man, come on, stop

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Speaker 3: playing with me. What you're trying to do? Like what

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Speaker 3: I am not understanding that? I agree way to handle

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Speaker 6: You you brought this on the if it was analogous,

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Speaker 6: is your point. My point is I don't agree with

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: I understand that, But what is your point? Because you

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Speaker 3: just said Christ came in, show the AR fifteen after

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Speaker 3: What's the what's the analogous here? Did he talk to

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Speaker 3: the commissioner there? Where is it the same? Show me

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Speaker 3: where this is the same? The same?

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Speaker 6: Because they suspending one guy for showing the gun? Did

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Speaker 3: But they're not showing They're not suspending him for showing

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Speaker 3: a gun what he's suspending them for. They are suspending

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Speaker 5: What's the conduct?

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Speaker 3: The conduct is what he said he was not going

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Speaker 3: and did it. So that's that's the mass here. So

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Speaker 3: christ came in post a third picture or second picture

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Speaker 3: or may not have talked to the commissioner. Because you

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Speaker 3: didn't do your homework on that one. So I don't

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Speaker 5: Okay, No, listen, first of all, don't question my homework.

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Speaker 3: Did he did he talk to the commissioner or not?

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Speaker 5: My homework?

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Speaker 3: Was it the same?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 6: He did, so how was it the same? That's the

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Speaker 6: point I'm making Why didn't you bring him in? Why

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Speaker 6: didn't you come talk to his It has nothing to

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Speaker 6: do with this, Okay, Chris came in. That they can

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Speaker 6: so they can pick and choose. Then who they punished,

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Speaker 6: how they punished for, what they punished for.

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Speaker 3: That's how bro. That is literally how conduct detrimental works.

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Speaker 3: Your If your conduct is deemed detrimental, they're going to

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Speaker 3: do something about it. For certain people, is deemed no, no,

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Speaker 3: no social Okay, So who are the other people? Who

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Speaker 3: are the other people that went to the commissioner? No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: you did you said, Chris came and never talked to

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Speaker 3: the commission So who are the other people that did something,

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Speaker 3: then went to the commissioner, said I'll never do it again,

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Speaker 3: and then did it again. Show me the analogous. Look

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Speaker 3: it up. I'm not the one making this argument. Look

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Speaker 3: it up. I'm not the one making this argument. You're

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Speaker 3: the one. No, you need to prove your statement of fact.

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Speaker 3: You are the one that needs to prove your statement

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Speaker 3: of fact. No, I'm not the one. I'm over here

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Speaker 3: saying this is a good suspense. You're talking about his crap,

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Speaker 3: And then like, where are your examples? As to why

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Speaker 3: it is crap. I just gave you. Where are your

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Speaker 3: examples as to why this is bad? In my opinion,

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Speaker 3: I said what I said because I mean, no where,

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Speaker 3: no where is it. I want to know, where is

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Speaker 3: the example of the NBA taking some unfair advantage of

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Speaker 3: John Moran in an idiot where like I want to

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Speaker 6: Okay, so let's do this. Then we won't use another example.

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Speaker 6: We'll just stick with this one. Is that okay's fine,

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Speaker 6: so we'll stick So we'll stick with this one. And

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Speaker 6: with this one once again, you're punishing him on this

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Speaker 6: broad spectrum. As you just said yourself, of conduct destrimental

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Speaker 6: to the league. What's the conduct? Your answer was that

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Speaker 6: he told the commissioner that he wouldn't do something, and

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Speaker 6: he did it again. So then my response to that is, okay,

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Speaker 6: show me.

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Speaker 3: Where that is.

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Speaker 6: If you're just saying the contract distrimental to the league,

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Speaker 6: that means you could just get somebody and you can

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Speaker 6: pick and choose who you punish, how you punish, and

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Speaker 6: when you punish them.

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Speaker 3: That's my point I don't agree with that. Write it down,

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Speaker 3: get it detail. Okay, let me know. That's the problem

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Speaker 3: that we have here. It is written down. It's in

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Speaker 3: the CBA. It is written down. It's in the CBA

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry that this is not it's right there. It's

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Speaker 3: It's all paper. You said you right through the CBA.

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Speaker 3: Did you read the part about contract detrimental because you

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Speaker 3: like did you said you right through it? Did you

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Speaker 3: read that part? That part wasn't there? Then? Yeah, that

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Speaker 3: part wasn't there. It's not in the CBA. It doesn't say.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't say, oh with conduct conduct detrimental to the League,

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Speaker 6: I e. If you tell the commissioner you won't do

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Speaker 6: that's not it doesn't say that.

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Speaker 3: Bo. Can you please do me a favor and print

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Speaker 3: out the part of the CBA related to conduct detrimental

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Speaker 3: It's the Book of Joe Podcasts. I can't wait for this, Joe.

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Speaker 2: We're going to dive into what goes on in the

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Speaker 2: dugout and behind the scenes in Major League.

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Speaker 4: Baseball, cars, wind whatever else we want to talk about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there are no boundaries, right. Listen to the

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Speaker 2: Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple

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Speaker 2: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: Martin VJ coming to you a lot from the Tireq

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Speaker 3: dot Com studios.

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Speaker 5: Job Moran suspended for twenty five games.

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Speaker 3: And VJ has a problem with the CBA and the

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Speaker 3: idea that the entire league has voted for this, and

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Speaker 3: it's the rules in which discipline is issued out in

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Speaker 3: the NBA.

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Speaker 6: Now, I don't have a problem that discipline is issued

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Speaker 6: out in the NBA. I have a problem that, as

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Speaker 6: you stated, the bylaws are so wide open with conduct

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Speaker 6: mental to the team that they can pretty much decide

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Speaker 6: when and how basically be judge, jury and executioner. That's

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Speaker 6: the part I have a problem with. It's not that

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Speaker 6: they can't discipline play, but they can discipline people all

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Speaker 6: they want to. That's fine, but have it have it

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Speaker 6: broken down it like, Have it broken down it, have

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Speaker 6: it like detailed. Because you're you're your example you gave

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Speaker 6: me was he told the commission He got suspended because

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Speaker 6: he told the commissioner he wasn't going to do something and.

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Speaker 5: He did it again. And I ask, okay, is is

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Speaker 5: that you know verbatim? Is that written down?

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Speaker 3: And the CBA is just is my question? Concerct detrimental

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Speaker 3: means a player has become a major nuisance or distraction

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Speaker 3: that is taken away from the team, in which the

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Speaker 3: athlete plays on. This is most often associated with something behavioral,

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Speaker 3: but can also be a form of action as well.

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Speaker 3: There you go, Okay, there you go, okay, point that

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Speaker 3: there it is that is right there. The commissioner's ability

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Speaker 3: to go ahead and without and dole out this punishment, which,

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Speaker 3: mind you, is about five to six games less than

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Speaker 3: punishments in the the paths that have been doled out

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Speaker 3: for differents of domestic violence. And also Stephen Jackson who

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Speaker 3: got thirty games for a fan violence. All of that,

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Speaker 3: I mean Stephen Jackson actually on the corporal When you

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Speaker 3: think about punishments that have been levied outside of what

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Speaker 3: happened inside of an inside of the confines of an

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Speaker 3: NBA game, thirty games is just about as much as

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Speaker 3: and the two different people that have been suspended for

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Speaker 3: domestic violence have recently Miles Bridges and Jeffrey Taylor, so

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Speaker 3: twenty to twenty five games for acting like a complete

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Speaker 3: fool in this scenario, whether it's and I get it.

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Speaker 3: If he was sitting there posted holding a hunting rifle

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Speaker 3: showing how he was holding the points of a buck,

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Speaker 3: it'd be a different thing.

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Speaker 5: A male deer, it'd be a different thing. But it's not.

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Speaker 3: He's riding around waving it in the air and putting

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Speaker 3: him and himself and others around him in danger. That's

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Speaker 3: why he suspended. And the rationale behind it was when

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Speaker 3: they set it initially, when he said it initially, it

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Speaker 3: is all about maintaining his stress levels and how he's

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Speaker 3: supposed to manage his stress levels. Well, if that's the case,

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Speaker 3: it evidently did not happen in the eight games prior.

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Speaker 3: He has all summer plus twenty five games, so just

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Speaker 3: about Christmas to figure it out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he does. I don't agree with them, that's just

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Speaker 5: a bid time.

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Speaker 3: But then you don't agree with the way, you don't

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Speaker 3: agree with the NBA players Union. You don't agree with

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Speaker 3: any of it. But the idea that this is some

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Speaker 3: handshake deal, the idea that this is some arbitrational handing

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Speaker 3: out of justice is just false.

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Speaker 6: No, I disagree with that. I think it is and

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Speaker 6: I think it always has been, especially even in the

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Speaker 6: NFL and other leads.

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Speaker 3: I do think it's that. I do think it's that.

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Speaker 6: But they can write anything down, so many lawyers involved

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Speaker 6: old let me speak. Then they can write anything down

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Speaker 6: on paper, Martin. They can write it and come up

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Speaker 6: with anything all they want to. Don't tell me that

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Speaker 6: human element doesn't play a percentage of this when he's

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Speaker 6: let me finish, when the suspensions are dealt out, and

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Speaker 6: when these things are dealt out, don't tell me that

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Speaker 6: human element doesn't come into it.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't come into play here.

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Speaker 6: I've seen I've seen NBA players or former athletes sit

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Speaker 6: and talk about their their conversations with Davis, Third, Carmelo,

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Speaker 6: Anthony Allen iverson where things that they said were set

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Speaker 6: in the meeting. They could tell that it was more

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Speaker 6: it was more personal than it was actually what was

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Speaker 6: written down or what we were supposed to go by.

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Speaker 6: But once again, my beef is that the bylaws are

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Speaker 6: so freaking wide and long you can pick and choose how,

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Speaker 6: when and where and who you want to suspend.

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Speaker 3: I have a problem with you just have a net

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Speaker 3: problem with the idea that the commissioner can punish people.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, absolutely, especially when you have it so then

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Speaker 3: you have a problem with the NBA. You have a

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Speaker 3: problem with that and the whole league because the Collective

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Speaker 3: Baring Agreement is essentially the bible of the league and

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Speaker 3: how it works and how everything goes back and forth.

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Speaker 6: So the other problem with American professional sports. Then Okay,

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Speaker 6: now you're trying to make it this broad thing now everything,

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Speaker 6: because first as you had a problem with the CBA

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Speaker 6: and then the players in the league. Now now I

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Speaker 6: have a problem with all the sports.

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Speaker 3: Stop well, because what I'm trying to explain to you

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Speaker 3: is that the CB in the NBA and the idea

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Speaker 3: that you can suspend somebody for conduct detrimental to the

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Speaker 3: league is something that exists across all professional sports. Just

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Speaker 3: ask Trevor Bauer in the NBA, or I mean in

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Speaker 3: Major League Baseball, or Zach Stacey in the NFL, like

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Speaker 3: these exist outside of this moment, like it already.

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Speaker 5: It's real, It's real. That's how the whole thing works.

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Speaker 6: I don't agree with the suspension. I don't agree with

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Speaker 6: the power that they have to suspend people, especially when

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Speaker 6: you haven't committed a crime, when you haven't broken any rules,

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Speaker 6: you haven't committed a crime, you haven't been charged with anything.

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Speaker 3: I understand that.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna look at a Twitter now and I see

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Speaker 6: people tweeting me and throw it and that's fine.

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Speaker 3: I like, I love this, I want to smoke. Bring

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Speaker 3: it on.

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Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 6: I'm willing to debate, but when you're telling me these

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Speaker 6: are different examples of like when Goode would suspend somebody

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Speaker 6: that people.

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Speaker 3: Had a problem with it, then I have a problem

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Speaker 3: with this and I have a problem. Did you have

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Speaker 3: a problem with Ben Simmons things suspended for avery, suspended

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Speaker 3: for conduct detrimental to the lead for the first twenty

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Speaker 3: five games of the season.

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Speaker 6: You have to remind me what was been Simon with

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Speaker 6: the what was he suspendedful? He wasn't coming and he's

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Speaker 6: a spend of twenty five games for that.

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Speaker 3: They said they find him for not going. He remember

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Speaker 3: he missed the shot against You know what. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: you know We'll do this in a second. Steve de

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Speaker 3: Seger has the latest on sport, on everything going around

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Speaker 3: in the world of sports. Steve, please save me from

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Speaker 3: this discussion for just a moment.

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Speaker 9: We are just starting the third round for the leaders

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Speaker 9: at the US Open. After all, it's only about four

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Speaker 9: point thirty at the LA Country Club where this major

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Speaker 9: is taking place this weekend. Through three holes of the

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Speaker 9: third round, Wyndham Clark of the US has taken the

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Speaker 9: lead a one stroke advantage over Ricky Fowler, who's the

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Speaker 9: southern California native. Rory McElroy has dropped to third place.

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Speaker 9: He's two back. Harris English of the US is three back,

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Speaker 9: and Dustin Johnson and Xander Schaffley are tied for fifth place.

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Speaker 9: They are five strokes behind. Again, it's early in round

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Speaker 9: number three to Major League Baseball. No Yankees at Red

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Speaker 9: Sox game tonight rained out. They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow.

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Speaker 9: We have three late games on the major league schedule,

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Speaker 9: just starting on Fox TV. Rays at Padres scoreless bottom

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Speaker 9: of the first. The Giants at Dodgers game will begin

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Speaker 9: in an hour and a half, and then the late

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Speaker 9: game with the first place Diamondbacks hosting Cleveland will be

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Speaker 9: on FS one ten pm Eastern time. Right now, in

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Speaker 9: the top of the twelfth inning, the Phillies have retaken

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Speaker 9: the lead at Oakland, three to two. The A's with

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Speaker 9: a record of nineteen and fifty three. Kansas City had

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Speaker 9: lost ten in a row. Royals record was eighteen and

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Speaker 9: fifty one, but they've just scored two runs bottom of

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Speaker 9: the ninth to beat the Angels ten to nine. At Seattle,

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Speaker 9: it's top of the eleventh inning, Mariners tied with the

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Speaker 9: White Sox three to three, Atlanta and Saint Louis with wins.

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Speaker 9: The Cardinals, who had the worst record in the National League,

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Speaker 9: were winners over the Mets in New York five to three.

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Speaker 9: By the way X third basement of Saint Louis. David

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Speaker 9: Freese declined an invitation to join the Cardinals team Hall

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Speaker 9: of Fame. Miami and Texas with wins today. Milwaukee shut

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Speaker 9: out Pittsburgh five nothing, beating pitcher Mitch Keller, who had

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Speaker 9: been eight and two. Cincinnati won its seventh straight game,

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Speaker 9: ten to three. At Houston. Cubs won there fifth in

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Speaker 9: a row, three to two over Baltimore. Minnesota shut out

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Speaker 9: Detroit to nothing, and West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins

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Speaker 9: was arrested for DUI last night. He had a drunk

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Speaker 9: driving conviction as Cincinnati coach in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 9: His blood alcohol content was more than twice the legal

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Speaker 9: limit last night. Huggins was inducted into the Basketball Hall

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Speaker 9: of Fame just last year.

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Speaker 3: Back to you, hey, Steve real quick, is anybody's trying

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Speaker 3: to get fired more than Bob Huggins right now?

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Speaker 9: I know they already docked him a million on the

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Speaker 9: salary and redid the contracts so they're not responsible for

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Speaker 9: any money after this coming season.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's really quite remarkable. Just tell them I'm done.

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Are we gonna have a meeting finally after this? Okay,

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Speaker 3: I know I played here, I live here, I grew

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Speaker 3: up here. It's just this is done. This is all,

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Speaker 3: and quite honestly, it looks like Bob Huggins could probably

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Speaker 3: stand from not being in the spotlight anymore at this

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Speaker 3: stage in the game. You are correct, it will probably

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Speaker 3: pay him a good deal to be ignored.

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Speaker 9: Referring also to the slurry had in the radio interview

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Speaker 9: last month, thanks not going well, this is not.

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Speaker 3: Going last month. It's it's been a long summer.

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Speaker 9: You've had a long career, You've had a ton of wins.

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Speaker 5: Step aside, all right, thanks, thank you Steve for that.

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Speaker 3: Martin and Vjay coming to you live from the Tirack

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Speaker 3: dot Com studios and uh VJ.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm kind of here at this point.

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Speaker 3: You know, Bo just sent me the excerpt from the

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Speaker 3: CBA in which you know it has the commissioner. But

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Speaker 3: the whole point of the matter is, if I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to get back down to brass tacks when we're talking

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Speaker 3: about John Morant and whether or not the commissioner has

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Speaker 3: the ability to levy this. It has been negotiated and

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Speaker 3: agreed upon, and the contracts have been signed, and if

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Speaker 3: he wants to be a part of the NBA, these

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Speaker 3: aren't These are the rules in which you were going

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Speaker 3: to be a part of them. Very much in the

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Speaker 3: same way. We'll talk about this in just a little bit,

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Speaker 3: very much in the same way that if you play

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Speaker 3: running back your art your salary is just going to

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Speaker 3: be artificially at this point suppressed simply because you are

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Speaker 3: running back until something changes in the fundamental structure and

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Speaker 3: fundamental structure of professional sports. This is the way that

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Speaker 3: punishment will be doled out, and a twenty five game

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Speaker 3: punishment which will likely get argued down to about twenty

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Speaker 3: two to twenty total games in a league in which

656
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Speaker 3: domestic violence your first instance has gotten you about thirty games,

657
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: in a league in which your first instance with a

658
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Speaker 3: fan violence will get you about thirty games. In a

659
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 3: league in which your first instance with bringing firearms into

660
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Speaker 3: the locker room Javars Critinton Gilbert Renis will get you

661
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 3: thirty eight games and fifty games respectively. Twenty games for

662
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Speaker 3: something that happened outside of the of the scope of everything.

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Speaker 3: That seems like a perfectly fair punishment. I got a

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Speaker 3: zero issue with it. Okay, you guys have a zero

665
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: issue with it.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 6: I have a big issue with it. I just I

668
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 6: don't like the way that the CBA is written. I

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Speaker 6: don't like the way that the by laws are so

670
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Speaker 6: damn wide that they can pick and choose. That is

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Speaker 6: basically what the hell I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Period.

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Speaker 6: But I don't, and I don't, and I don't, and

674
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Speaker 6: and like I said, I'm not defending him. I think

675
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Speaker 6: he's making some bad decisions as far as the way

676
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Speaker 6: he's portrayed himself, whether that is who he is or

677
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Speaker 6: not who he is. I'm past that part of the discussion.

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Speaker 6: But the bylaws in this I understand it needs is

679
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Speaker 6: agreed upon. I understand everybody signs off on it. That's fine.

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Speaker 6: But we also know a lot of these things are

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Speaker 6: given take also when the CBA and these deals, when

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Speaker 6: these deals get done.

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Speaker 7: And a lot a lot of this is perhaps a

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Speaker 7: negotiation a lot once it's iron class, it's give and

685
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Speaker 7: take once it's ironclad, that's not true, like a lot

686
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Speaker 7: of maybe a negotiation, but once it's signed into law

687
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Speaker 7: and to the NBA law, that's that's that right.

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Speaker 3: There is just it's not true.

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Speaker 5: I don't agree with it.

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Speaker 3: I don't like it.

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Speaker 6: Somebo is that I don't like it. I don't know

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Speaker 6: what else you want me to say, bro, I don't

693
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Speaker 6: like it. I don't like I thought the twenty five games,

694
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Speaker 6: I mean, if he if he if he had done

695
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Speaker 6: something like if he harmed Somebody's a lot of ifs

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Speaker 6: he could have. He could have done this, or this

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Speaker 6: could have happened, but it didn't. It didn't happen. It

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Speaker 6: could have happened, but it didn't happen. And now if

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Speaker 6: we're suspending people on what could have but it should

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Speaker 6: have sarned?

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Speaker 3: Cool. I just asked the point, we're not suspending on.

702
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 5: People on what the should have did it.

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Speaker 3: We're not doing that.

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Speaker 5: So we're suspending him because he had a gun in

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Speaker 5: the strip club?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Cool?

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Speaker 6: And then there was the so called as far as

709
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Speaker 6: I wasn't there, so I don't know if the gun

710
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Speaker 6: was really toy. I thought it was hilarious that they

711
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Speaker 6: even came up with that story that the gun and

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Speaker 6: I put that out on my Twitter, like, Okay, that's wild.

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Speaker 3: Now they're saying that the gun was a I actually

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Speaker 3: do have literally no joke the same gun lighter. No,

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Speaker 3: I've seen literally the un has one. Yeah, one that

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Speaker 3: Josh showed and that same time. I've seen them.

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Speaker 6: So if it was if it was a toy gun,

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Speaker 6: you know, then then you could say, Okay, you're suspending him,

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Speaker 6: okay for the You didn't suspend him for the uh

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Speaker 6: strip club thing. You guys gave him the eight games

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Speaker 6: when he already had the five off from the team,

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Speaker 6: and that wasn't even called the suspension that was called.

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Speaker 6: He's just away from the team, but to get himself together.

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Speaker 3: But the NBA came back and said, he's not getting

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Speaker 3: paid for this moment, that it is suspension. I guess

726
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Speaker 3: that's the key. I get time away from the team,

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Speaker 3: you're still getting paid.

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Speaker 6: So technically he got suspended twenty five games for waving

729
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Speaker 6: a toy gun.

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Speaker 3: He got suspended twenty five games for waving with whether

731
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Speaker 3: or not as a toy gun or not. Okay, whether

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Speaker 3: or not as a toy gun or not. He was

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Speaker 3: suspended for participating in the same activity he was prior,

734
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Speaker 3: which was live streaming himself with what looked to be

735
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Speaker 3: and at the time when he was suspended from Memphis

736
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Speaker 3: and initially they suspended him the next morning and it

737
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Speaker 3: was said because of what looks to be they didn't

738
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Speaker 3: further investigate it. They said, if it is a gun,

739
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Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. If it's a lighter, if it's a

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Speaker 3: squirt gun, it doesn't matter. We're still going to suspend you.

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Speaker 3: As we investigate this information, NBA comes in, you know what,

742
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Speaker 3: we'll tackle on three more on top of the five

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Speaker 3: that d already got.

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Speaker 5: Let's make it a full eight.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the NBA is supposed to add on

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Speaker 3: additional punishment in turn, Like when you go to jail

747
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Speaker 3: and you commit a crime, and you go to jail,

748
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Speaker 3: you get credit for the days that you were in

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Speaker 3: jail before the sentence.

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Speaker 5: It's called time served.

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Speaker 3: Sure, NBA wasn't supposed to go like that would have

752
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: been a violation of the CBA punishing it twice for

753
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: the same thing. But when he doesn't does something else,

754
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: which is in a different instance, you are opening yourself

755
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 3: up to conduct detrimental to the league, which has been

756
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Speaker 3: a suspendable offense across professional sports, and quite honestly, now

757
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Speaker 3: that I'm sitting here thinking about it again inside of

758
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: college sports with even more impunity, all you gotta say

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Speaker 3: is conduct detrimental. And guess what nobody's questioning a Nick

760
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Speaker 3: Saban why the backup defensive lineman is not available for

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Speaker 3: the first half against Rice.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure where that correlation was.

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Speaker 3: But because conduct detrimental is a thing that goes across

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Speaker 3: all companies. The same way that you said a minute ago,

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Speaker 3: if you were to go and see me out in public,

766
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Speaker 3: do him acting a fool, you would stop me because

767
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 3: I'm your co host and so on, you know, like

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Speaker 3: you alluded to, why because it would be conduct detrimental

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Speaker 3: to Fox.

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Speaker 6: Sports Radio, Like listen, I'm not We're not going to

771
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Speaker 6: cross companies and do it. I'm talking about this specific situation,

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Speaker 6: this specific league right here.

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Speaker 3: Contact, but contact detrimental exists in every single professional sport.

774
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Speaker 3: I get it. The cvcbas exist in every single professional sport.

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Speaker 3: I know that player unions exist in every position, every

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 3: single professional sport, and in every single professional sport. Got

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00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: it well before, right here, right now, these were negotiated

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Speaker 3: and agreed upon, and when you sign the contract that

779
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Speaker 3: John Moran signed as he got drafted into the NBA,

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Speaker 3: those are the rules you have to follow. If you

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00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: don't want to follow them, you do not have to

782
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Speaker 3: play professional sports. Make the rules more clear. The rules

783
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Speaker 3: are very clear. That's the point I'm trying to make.

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Speaker 3: The rules are very very clear, and making that point

785
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: to me they are. The rules are very clear. You

786
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Speaker 3: can print them out there right here on my phone.

787
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: I could read them to you if you'd like, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think it'd be very compelling radio.

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Speaker 6: It is very very clear. There is no gray area.

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Speaker 6: There's no gray area, but you there is no gray area.

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Speaker 6: Let me speak, but you just said ten minutes ago

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Speaker 6: that condred distrimental to the team.

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Speaker 3: Is a why. But there's no great There is great.

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00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 3: Something as wide reaching here does not mean there's not

795
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 3: gray level gray area. The speed limit on Ventur is

796
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 3: thirty five. If you go thirty eight, or you go fifty,

797
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 3: or you go one hundred and fifty, it is still.

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Speaker 5: Against the law. It is about the very of how

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Speaker 5: much you do so.

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Speaker 3: But there is a very strict line of what it

801
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 3: is like just because there's a wide ranging ray of

802
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 3: punishment that can occur from it does not mean it

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00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: is not clear and defined and negotiated upon.

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Speaker 6: All right, So he got suspended because he told the

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Speaker 6: commissioner he won't do it again, and he got taught caught.

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Speaker 5: With a toy gun. All right, got it?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 5: Glad we're here.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next, Martin and VJ will get into some

810
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Speaker 3: of this Bradley Beal conversation. The NBA rumors are flying,

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Speaker 3: plus Little Zion at the top of the hour as well,

812
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Speaker 3: Martin and VJ, Fox Sports Radio. Martin and VJ coming

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00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: to your line from the Tirack dot Com studios. VJ,

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Speaker 3: like I said, as we tease the last break the

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Speaker 3: this is NBA rumor season, right yep, right now in

816
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 3: training camps, like all quarterbacks and wide receivers are light years.

817
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 5: Ahead of where they were last year.

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Speaker 3: That everybody's looking great and right now like this is

819
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: just as much as everybody in the NFL tries to

820
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: convince themselves that this is the period and time in

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Speaker 3: which we got a shot. This is where every NBA

822
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 3: fan convinces themselves, if we get this guy, it's over with.

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00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: It's over with.

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Speaker 5: Like thirty different guys. It's not one guy.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 6: The broadly build thing is just really I don't know, man,

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Speaker 6: Like I don't. I don't think you're winning anything. He

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Speaker 6: would have to go to maybe like Milwaukee. If the

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Speaker 6: teams that have been rumored the heat, Okay, I still

830
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Speaker 6: don't think they're a championship team if they get Bradley

831
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Speaker 6: Bill and the Suns. The Sons have already given up

832
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 6: so much to get the ramp, You're gonna give up

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Speaker 6: more to get Bradley Bill.

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Speaker 3: Now, it's just who are you? Who's on your bench?

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Speaker 8: And what it?

836
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Speaker 3: Vocals?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know one of those the defensive money thought exercise.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to cut you off, but I am

841
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,919
Speaker 3: of the belief that that you want to talk about

842
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: a smoke screen. Phoenix is a smoke screen. And it

843
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: just really just became I now feel comfortable enough saying

844
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: it on the national radio to do this, all right,

845
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal has a no trade clause, right, which essentially

846
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 3: means a one hundred percent no training clause exactly, So

847
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 3: he is calling his own shot, yes, right, yeah. Now,

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Speaker 3: his agent Mark Bartlestein. He had a son that went

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Speaker 3: to Michigan. His name was Josh Bartlestein, got there about

850
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Speaker 3: the same time I did, and graduated about the same

851
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Speaker 3: time I did. His son, that's right, thirty three year

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00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: old Josh Bartlestein is now the CEO of the Phoenix

853
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: Sons after Matt Isshubie bought the team.

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Speaker 5: How does that make you feel?

855
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Speaker 3: Makes me feel the same way I felt when I

856
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: was fourteen years old reading Sports Illustrated and I realized

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00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: that Freddie Adou, who.

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Speaker 5: Made the men's national team, was sixteen years old. That's

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Speaker 5: why I'm playing for DC United. I'm way behind. That

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00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 5: was the feeling I'm way behind.

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Speaker 3: I had it then, and I guess I'm still, you know,

862
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 3: twenty years later, still feeling like I'm way behind. But

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00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: I sell that to say. I think that that's a

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00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: little bit of Bartlestein family dinner conversation in order to

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Speaker 3: try to drive the price up for the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 3: which seems to be just a staple automatic and go

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Speaker 3: for the beal to Miami.

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Speaker 5: That's where he wants to go.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't really said anywhere else, so kind of talking

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Speaker 3: about nowhere else almost doesn't matter. If they go get

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00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 3: bial you get, you're giving up too.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna have to give up some of these, let's

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00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 6: say the undrafted guys that you loved so much, you

874
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 6: so called love so much. They they're gonna probably want

875
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 6: hero in that deal. So you're gonna lose that right there.

876
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 6: And if I'm if I'm the Wizards, I'm not taking

877
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 6: it cheap. I'm not just doing you any favors. I'm

878
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 6: not giving you my max guy, and you're gonna send

879
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 6: me back scraps like I'm not giving you file and

880
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: you slip me back a chili dog.

881
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 3: We're not doing We're not doing that I want. But

882
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: what if it just want chili dogs back? You know

883
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: what if they're trying you know, like because like think

884
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: about this, like they have mellersh a group and ah,

885
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: they think about it. They've been they have been. The

886
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: playing tournament was damn near created for teams like Washington,

887
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 3: right that is always they're always between like seven and

888
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: ten in the last month of the year, and then

889
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: you know the bottom falled out, right because the bottom

890
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: was never really there to begin with, right, So I

891
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 3: I mean, and we've seen Paul Pearson. John Wall has

892
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: been a long time ago. So that to that point, right,

893
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 3: that's that's been you know, six six seven maybe right,

894
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: it's been six seven years ago. Anyway, the point remains,

895
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 3: Washington may want to bottom this whole thing out, go

896
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 3: nuclear because otherwise, why are you moving him? Do you

897
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?

898
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 6: Like you're moving You're moving him because it frees up money.

899
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: You have a new ownership group in Bill. Bill is

900
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 6: to me, Bradley Bill's topped out. I don't think there's

901
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 6: a better Bradley Bill that's waiting for us to see

902
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 6: in years ago. I think we've seen the best Bradley.

903
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 6: He reminds me of lot of Gilbert Arenas. He does

904
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 6: phenomenal score, can put the biscuit in the basket. Cool,

905
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 6: But you have to have the intangibles to win. You

906
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 6: have to have the mindset, you have to have the leadership,

907
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 6: you have to have the stuff that that's not on

908
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 6: paper to win in the NBA. And I just think

909
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 6: he's a really good player. So I don't know, you're

910
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: not gonna win with them. So that's why they want

911
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 6: to Miami with them. Absolutely, it depends on what they

912
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 6: would have to give up, though, Martin.

913
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 3: I think if you some combination of these guys we

914
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 3: just saw in Hero Heroes, gotta go Heroes on the deal,

915
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: all right, see you later, Yeah, all right. I just

916
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: I don't. If I'm Miami, I'm sitting there like I

917
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: just got to the I got what three games away

918
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: from the NBA Finals win without Tyler hero for the

919
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 3: literally the whole stretch run. We save a quarter.

920
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 6: When you make deals like this, in my opinion, you

921
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 6: give up so much you set your team back unless

922
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 6: you're getting unless you already have a top guy, Like

923
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 6: when the Lakers got a d they did ship off

924
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 6: a lot, but you already had Lebron and that was

925
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 6: still kind of in his peak, in his prime, so

926
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 6: you can give up that much.

927
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 5: The Heat don't have a player like we just saw

928
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 5: what Jimmy Butler is.

929
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 6: The Heat don't have that guy that if you give

930
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 6: up a lot, that if you give up a lot,

931
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 6: you can you can you can absorb that because you

932
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 6: still have like a megastar on your team. I just

933
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 6: I don't think that the Heat have that to give

934
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 6: up to bring in Bill to put with Ben. You

935
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 6: can't stand Bam, so you're adding Bill.

936
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: To Bam into perfect. Now I got him as a

937
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 3: third best player, and I don't need his offense. That's

938
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: a great fit. You need his offense, man, not if

939
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: I have Bradley Beal and Jimmy Butler like no, and

940
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting, but then perfect, we can get Bam

941
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: back to where he belongs with about thirteen shots a

942
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: game because we see the added workload does nothing for him.

943
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 6: I don't I don't think their championship team would. I

944
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 6: think you would have to give up too much. And

945
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 6: I don't think that they already have that mega star.

946
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 3: This would be a different if it was any team

947
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 3: but the Miami Heat. The Miami he could give up

948
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 3: all the draft picks. They don't even use their draft picks.

949
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: Who's the last player Miami drafted that is in the rotation?

950
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: I'll answer for you. Bam at a bio. Yeah, man,

951
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: that's it. That's it. That's the only that like, that's it.

952
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 6: Everything just doesn't He doesn't move the needle for me, Bro,

953
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. It had to be a different team. It

954
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 6: have to be like to Milwaukee the team when a

955
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 6: guy like Yan is like a top flight NBA guy

956
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 6: for me, just that's just my opinion.

957
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Speaker 3: for some tires for Zion Williamson as they trying to

966
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: get him on the move. And I'll just say, bravo, bravo, bravo,

967
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Speaker 3: what took you so long? I was upset when they

968
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: drafted him. I wasn't happy when they did the extension.

969
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: I was like, do you guys not see this dynamic

970
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: point guard out of Murray State jumping out of the gym,

971
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: And sure enough, John Moran took the Memphis Grizzly.

972
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 5: Ok, you really wanted them to take us.

973
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: I'm just as I promise you you want them to take.

974
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: I am not a fan, and I tell you this,

975
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: this is the part of the reason why you know

976
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: those guys we've never seen before. I'm not a fan,

977
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: I'm out if we've never seen him before, like we've

978
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 3: never seen a combination of ion, sides and speed, which

979
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: we had, but they just didn't either. And I'm good,

980
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: I'm good you telling these freaking natures, like, all right,

981
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 3: you will go, you will lose your job one hundred

982
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 3: percent trying to draft the next Charles Barkley or Kevin Durant.

983
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Kevin Durant is an anomaly

984
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: the way that he's an anomaly. He's like and so

985
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: when you're telling me that chat Holmgren is coming in

986
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: as the next Kevin Durant, I'm telling you absolutely not

987
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 3: have fun. Exactly, youre telling me that Zion is gonna

988
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: be the next Charles Barkley. Who I mean, if you

989
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 3: wanted to even make a Charles Barkley comp in the

990
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: league at the moment, the only one that comes even

991
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: markedly close is like Draymond or PJ. Tucker. And that's

992
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: so far away. That's so far away off, That's what

993
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But that just in terms of guys who

994
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: are short error and play really big big, but like

995
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: that's not but no, they don't exist. So yeah, I

996
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: was out on Zion. I've seen John Morint I've seen

997
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: his iteration, and the Derrick Rose, I've seen his iteration.

998
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: In these guards that can cut to the rim and

999
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 3: move fast and be their own one man fast break.

1000
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: I've seen this archetype be super successful in the league before.

1001
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: It's sure enough, Memphis was from picking second to I

1002
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: mean at the point in time this year, I good,

1003
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, I know they're the

1004
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 3: butt of the jokes and all of this and that. However,

1005
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: the man had forty seven in the play in Then

1006
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: the next year, Memphis makes the playoffs as the seventh seed.

1007
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: Next year, Memphis makes the playoffs as a two seed.

1008
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 11: Right.

1009
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: Part of the reason why Grizzli's management has such a

1010
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: decision to make at this moment in time because you

1011
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 3: have not seen success like this that you have in

1012
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 3: the last seven hundred days of your team.

1013
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 5: Right, it's just the grit and grind era.

1014
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was on record, I wasn't high on either

1015
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 6: one of them coming out of college because, like you said,

1016
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 6: we haven't seen a Zion before. I'm like, no, that's true,

1017
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 6: we've seen Zion before. The comparison that I gave when

1018
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 6: I threw this at CHRISTM. Sordin and he was like,

1019
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 6: what Wow VJ. He reminded me. I said, dude, he's

1020
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 6: gonna be Clarence Witherspoon. And if you guys remember Clarence Weatherspoon,

1021
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 6: he was drafted by the seventies six ers in the

1022
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 6: nineties and but and they thought and they drafted him

1023
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 6: because they thought he was gonna be the next Charles Barkley.

1024
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 6: Almost damn near looks like him. If you guys google

1025
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 6: Clarence Weatherspoon, that's who people thought that they thought he

1026
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 6: could be Barkley. And when I looked at Zion, he

1027
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 6: was already hurt in college. I always thought he just

1028
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 6: did everything too hard. Everything is a power jump, Everything

1029
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 6: is a is a is a violent move in your

1030
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 6: ligaments and your attendants and your knees and your a

1031
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 6: your lower extremities. It can't take it can't take that.

1032
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 6: As Martin loves to say, you're one of your favorite

1033
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 6: phrase I love, it's not sustainable. It's that type, but

1034
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 6: it's not sustainable. That type of where it's tearing your

1035
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 6: body is not sustainable. Even over to John. I looked

1036
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 6: at John and they were like, man, we've we we've

1037
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 6: never seen.

1038
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1039
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 6: Half his name was Penny Hardaway, his name was Derreck Rose,

1040
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 6: his name was Russ Westbrook. Guards that are fast, can

1041
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 6: get down, cut through the lane, leap and dunk on everybody,

1042
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 6: average jump shooter, average defender.

1043
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 3: But it'll play the passing lanes, get some stills. Yeah,

1044
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: I've seen this before. Ever, he's nothing new that I

1045
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: haven't seen as far as play on the court, and

1046
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: now his action's off the court.

1047
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 6: I guess with the new suit with a according to

1048
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 6: the CVA. But when I look at this whole you know,

1049
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 6: this whole Pelicans thing, I trade him, man, I'd move

1050
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 6: I'd move him. If if you think Scoot Henderson is

1051
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 6: that guy, and you think that you could you can

1052
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 6: start over and rebuild with him, you already had to

1053
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 6: start over after a D and I and I and

1054
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie. I don't know enough about school

1055
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 6: Henderson to say that I would make the trade up.

1056
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 6: But what I would do is filled every call on Zion.

1057
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 6: And I said this on the show two three months ago.

1058
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 6: The guy's not folks. The guy don't want to play ball.

1059
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 3: Guys.

1060
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 6: Just because people get to the pro leagues doesn't mean

1061
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 6: that they want to really be putting in the work

1062
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 6: and be there every day, make it their life. They

1063
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 6: much rather enjoy the limelight and the women, and the

1064
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 6: money and the material things and the parties and the

1065
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 6: access and the elitist title that you get from being,

1066
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 6: you know, a two hundred million dollar contract guy playing

1067
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 6: pro ball. You can pretty much have anything you want

1068
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 6: thrown at your feet. A lot of that stuff it

1069
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 6: blinds guys. And Zion just has that look to me.

1070
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 6: And I'm not even trying to talk about all the

1071
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 6: other crap that's coming out, But look at it, though.

1072
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 3: Right that shows you not focused.

1073
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 10: Dude.

1074
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 6: You're doing way too much other stuff and you're supposed

1075
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 6: you're supposed to be focused. Right now, you could have played,

1076
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 6: but you couldn't play, but you felt good enough to play.

1077
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, man, If I don't know how

1078
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 6: much the social media aspect, oh no, I'm not talking

1079
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 6: about I'm talking about all the stuff that that's going

1080
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 6: on in his life.

1081
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 3: I think it's I don't I don't know how much

1082
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 3: that plays Like like Medina said last week, I don't

1083
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: think that plays into the calculus of.

1084
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 6: I'm not talking about the front office. I'm talking about

1085
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 6: Zion himself as far as his mentality to want to

1086
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 6: be great and want to be on the court and

1087
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 6: want to play basketball. I'm speaking on it on that behalf.

1088
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 6: If I'm Memphis, I mean I'm schep not mephis. But

1089
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 6: if I'm New Orleans, I feel offers this summer, and

1090
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 6: I move off of them. If I think I can

1091
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 6: get the number two and I can get school, I

1092
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 6: move off of them and I try to go get school.

1093
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't.

1094
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that the social media or

1095
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 3: this personal life that we've seen on display over the

1096
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 3: last you know, fourteen days or so, Marian mill is

1097
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 3: probably still tweeting. But uh, I don't. I don't. I

1098
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 3: don't think that plays into the calculus here. I think

1099
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: much more plays into the calculus in twenty nine games

1100
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: over the last four seasons, plays much bigger deal take

1101
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 3: he plays into it at all, though, I don't, I

1102
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: really not at all.

1103
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 6: You don't think that no one in the front office

1104
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 6: is saying, look, this kid can't even stay he's got

1105
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 6: too much going on. He's not even focused on basketball.

1106
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 6: You don't think that's a You don't think that's any

1107
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 6: question at all.

1108
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: I really, I really don't think that, Like I put

1109
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 3: it like this, if if another and be I don't know,

1110
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to attack somebody else. For somebody else

1111
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: who was playing eighty games a year starting and playing,

1112
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 3: you know, averaging fifteen and seven even that level, I

1113
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: don't think it's like, what does the organization care?

1114
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying in terms of that regard.

1115
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 3: And the only other guy I can think with a

1116
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: similarly analogous situation was Paul George and it did not

1117
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 3: impact his on the court legacy or long the court

1118
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: earnings one bit. Like it didn't. It just didn't impact

1119
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 3: his scenario. If you're interested wherever he went and from

1120
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 3: wherever he went, I'm talking about it. He had a

1121
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: kind of similar off the court's sing the issue that

1122
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 3: in the end of thing, whatever he google it. If

1123
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: you're interested, however, the man has gotten super max contract.

1124
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: With the max contract, whenever he gets traded, it's for

1125
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: a high value like he's I mean, he's considered one

1126
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 3: of the best players in the league.

1127
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 5: It did not impact his back basketball.

1128
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think that if Zion was playing basketball,

1129
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: that's the problem we had nothing else to talk about

1130
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: besides well, he's being with the tweets and this and

1131
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 3: that because he don't play. He's only played thirty games,

1132
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: Like I said, thirty games a year, one hundred and

1133
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 3: forty four sins. He's been in the least something like that.

1134
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: Like I was just I was saying the kind of

1135
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: tongue in cheek. But the first time when Joall got

1136
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: the day the Josh thing came down. The first time

1137
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 3: right after Shotgun Willies, I'm at work on Monday talking

1138
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 3: with my podcast partner on the Lemon Pepper Parla podcast,

1139
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 3: and I say, you know what, Hey, who misses more games? Zion?

1140
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 5: Our job?

1141
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: At this point, I hadn't missing spended Zion got hurt

1142
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 3: January second, Bro January second, they were first and the

1143
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 3: last time when the last time you saw him prior

1144
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 3: to January second was at that gender review. That was

1145
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 3: that like somebody seriously, and so now I'm like, the

1146
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 3: face of your franchise, No, the capital F face of

1147
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: your franchise is clearly a mantle that is not easy

1148
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 3: to hold for anybody. Right. Just I'm just thinking right

1149
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 3: now of the top three picks in this draft, Zion,

1150
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 3: Jah and RJ. Barrett. You look at r. J. Barrett.

1151
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: He ain't the face of the Knicks at all, right,

1152
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 3: but he's been the one that's probably been the most

1153
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 3: successful out of his class, just off the fact that

1154
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 3: he continues to be available.

1155
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 5: Cam Reddis is nowhere to be found.

1156
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: Man. So it's it's really hard to get this right.

1157
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: It's difficult to get this right, and I'm a little

1158
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 3: sympathetic to it. But when I at this point in time,

1159
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: his value, unless he becomes an all time great player, right,

1160
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: his value is as high as it will be right now.

1161
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 6: But we know in pro sports too, there's always one.

1162
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 6: There's always one GM, one head coach, one VP of operations,

1163
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 6: one owner who thinks I can get that guy, I

1164
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 6: can change that guy. I can't get him to do

1165
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 6: what we need him to do here, maybe he needs

1166
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 6: You're here in change of scenery. You're here in New York,

1167
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 6: New York, New York dog. If you can't handle the

1168
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 6: off the court stuff in New Orleans. And I love

1169
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 6: New Orleans. This is one of my favorite cities. I

1170
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 6: tell you all the time. It's the best food city

1171
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 6: in United States of America. It is untouched and it's

1172
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 6: not even close. But it ain't New York City homeboy,

1173
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 6: with the New York Daily News and the New York

1174
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 6: Times and all the and just all the stuff you

1175
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 6: can get into there. If you can't stay focused with

1176
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 6: your weight and with your other off the court things

1177
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 6: in New Orleans, Louisiana, you have zero shot in New York.

1178
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 6: And I think that's a place he's been throwing out there.

1179
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 6: Daddy wants to go to. When he was coming out

1180
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 6: of college, he made it know that he wanted to

1181
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 6: be a nick And I think if you trade him

1182
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 6: and you get the best, obviously you can't get the

1183
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 6: best deal because you want to go for the number

1184
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 6: two picks. So that's the team you really need to

1185
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 6: be talking to if you're going to move him, not

1186
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,720
Speaker 6: unless you think you can laying laying a Dame Lillard.

1187
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 6: If you can trade them with Portland and Portland things

1188
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 6: they can do. Someone of Chauncey Billis thinks he could

1189
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 6: do something with them. I think Portland's a team that's

1190
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 6: out there where you have to get. You have to

1191
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 6: get a game changing guy in return. You can't get

1192
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 6: draft picks. You can't move Zion for draft picks.

1193
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: Why not? I think you got why not because you

1194
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 3: just said it yourself. This is hard to do.

1195
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: So you're gonna take another You're gonna roll the dice

1196
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 6: again on it, draft it, or get a guy that

1197
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 6: already know what I'm getting.

1198
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: But you're not getting you're not getting. I mean, the

1199
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 3: guy has played one hundred and something games in his

1200
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: NBA career. VJ. I'll remind you in the audience there's

1201
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 3: eighty two in a season, gonna standing. Just to put

1202
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: it in like, you have to think, like we talk

1203
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 3: about the availability of a Kyrie Irving, Kyrie has perfect

1204
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: attendance in comparison to Zion, right.

1205
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, He's never here.

1206
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: So that's the only value that you can get right

1207
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,959
Speaker 3: now is the idea that somebody could trick them into saying,

1208
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: hey man, they just been using them wrong.

1209
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 5: You know, don't we get them in our system?

1210
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: This and that. But I think anybody who would like

1211
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 3: you gotta come up with that and get that deal

1212
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: done now. But if I have the number two overall pick,

1213
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at Zion Williamson as my take back,

1214
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need something more.

1215
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 6: Honestly, who else you're throwing that deal with then somebody's

1216
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 6: gotta come off. Oh so you say Zion and draft picks. Yeah,

1217
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 6: I need Zion and something like. Because here's the thing

1218
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 6: New Orleans needs. If I'm if I'm Charlotte or you

1219
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 6: know Portland, New Orleans.

1220
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: Needs me to do I'm a favor. You need me

1221
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: to do you a favor now before you sign into

1222
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: this max contract. Maybe maybe we could talk about some

1223
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: getting the mask's back. But the same thing with Bradley Beal.

1224
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: Whoever trades for Bradley Beal will be doing the Wizards

1225
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: a favor. They don't want to pay that cunt track. Yeah,

1226
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 3: they need to move the contract right, the same way

1227
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: with New Orleans they need to move the contract. So no,

1228
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 3: it's gonna take something significant. I think if you're a

1229
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 3: New Orleans you shit there and you look at everything

1230
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 3: that you got around you CJ. B I, balance Unis

1231
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: and the way that thing was going in the West,

1232
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: especially when you consider where they were playing Zion. When

1233
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: he was playing, he was bringing the ball up a lot.

1234
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 6: Do you consider b I or McCullough in the deal

1235
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 6: if you're New Orleans and let me let me throw

1236
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 6: it just a trade at you nor the Portlands hitt

1237
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 6: at number three. So say Portland goes, okay, this is

1238
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 6: what we'll do. We want Zion and CJ. I can't

1239
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,320
Speaker 6: imagine it.

1240
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 3: CJ go back.

1241
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 5: I know I saw.

1242
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 3: I'll say b I.

1243
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 5: Then so we want Zion and b I and we'll

1244
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 5: give you Dame and the number three pick.

1245
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: So you get Dame. Just you get it. You get

1246
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 3: a franchise guy.

1247
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 6: You know, and and we and the number three pick,

1248
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 6: and we want Zion and then whatever your number one

1249
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 6: pick next year, your first round pick next year.

1250
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 5: If New Orleans do you do it? But I think

1251
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 5: New Orleans probably shit it.

1252
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 3: I'm not sourced on this, but I would imagine they

1253
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 3: have to be feeling like they have a guy brandon

1254
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 3: Ingram when brandon Ingram was cooking and had another like,

1255
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 3: I think they need alternative, Like like CJ can run

1256
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 3: the point well enough, but we've seen enough playoff series

1257
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: with him to know you cannot depend on him exact

1258
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 3: drop twenty eight games. But he's not gonna just lose

1259
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: his mind. He's not gonna go in there to turn

1260
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 3: the ball over, you know what I'm saying. Like, some

1261
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 3: guys can't play in the playoffs. CJ can, but if

1262
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: your second best player, it's not gonna get done. Do

1263
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 3: you see what I'm saying. I think if you have

1264
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: beat b I and valence units, that two man game.

1265
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: You're looking around the Western Conference. I look around the

1266
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,919
Speaker 3: Western Conference. I see Marie and jokis two man game,

1267
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: and I see that's kind of the message with the

1268
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 3: new CBA and all that. I see an easy scenario

1269
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 3: in which if you can lay and scoot, I wouldn't

1270
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: be interested in Brandon Miller, but if you can get scoot,

1271
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: a guy's gonna be coming there, handle the ball, good

1272
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 3: mid range shooter, with the idea he'll probably be able

1273
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 3: to extend that range out a little bit. Hell super athletic,

1274
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: but like just the idea, somebody who can get out

1275
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 3: and push the ball down the court. Set b I

1276
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 3: up in good spots, get balance units. You know what

1277
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 3: I'm saying, in good spots. I love that. I love

1278
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 3: that for New Orleans one hundred percent, especially when you

1279
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: think about the team when like Zion was playing a

1280
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 3: ton of games before his season and the injury in June,

1281
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: I mean in January.

1282
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 6: But if you want scoot, you gotta go to number two.

1283
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 6: Then Scoot's not sloting the three, So then you're talking

1284
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,320
Speaker 6: to Charlotte.

1285
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 5: Depends on what Charlotte wants. It depends on what Charlotte won.

1286
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: I just don't think I reports that Charlotte flew an

1287
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 3: entire contingency down in Tuscaloosa last week to go ahead

1288
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 3: and investigate all the things that come along with Brandon Miller.

1289
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 3: I just think that, Yeah, that's true. But they gotta

1290
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 3: do due diligence, you know what I'm saying.

1291
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 6: They gotta they they have to, they have to research it,

1292
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 6: they gotta investigate, they gotta find out. But if Scoot

1293
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 6: Henderson is what people think he can be and it's

1294
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 6: gonna be, then I I would assume he's going number two.

1295
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 6: And I think there are maybe a few teams looking

1296
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 6: to get to number two. But I think you would

1297
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: have to give Charlotte, especially with Jordan completing the cell

1298
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 6: of his majority stakes still keeping the minority stakes. So

1299
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 6: you're gonna have a new ownership group kind of coming

1300
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 6: in there. They're gonna need something to go with Mellow.

1301
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 6: They definitely need something to go with him. They've blown

1302
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 6: all their draft picks. I mean, even when they got

1303
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 6: Gordon Hayward. He got hurt when he got there, so

1304
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 6: they're gonna need somebody, a franchise changing, upstart guy.

1305
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 3: To come out.

1306
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 6: I just don't think with Zion just to jump back

1307
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 6: on him. I just don't think the kids got it, man,

1308
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 6: I just don't. I don't care where he goes. He

1309
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: just doesn't have the makeup to me mentally of a

1310
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 6: guy that's gonna be locked in and it's gonna do

1311
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 6: what is required to be a star in this league.

1312
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 6: And like you said, before he got hurt, he was

1313
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 6: number there were number one in the West. And my

1314
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 6: last thing impression of him was the three sixty wind

1315
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,479
Speaker 6: mill dunk. That was it Utah that got pissed about

1316
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 6: it or wherever they was playing, we're upset because I

1317
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 6: guess the game was out of hand and you know,

1318
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 6: they threw the ball of court to him and he

1319
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 6: went and did this three. He's sixty windmill Doug. That

1320
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 6: makes you go, goodness, crazius. This kid is phenomenal, but

1321
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 6: he's just not there enough. And him not being there enough,

1322
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 6: I just questioned his want to be there. Do you

1323
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 6: take that chance if you're another team, do you think

1324
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 6: feet to the fire. Did he get traded?

1325
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: Yes, Martin and VJ will be back with some more

1326
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 3: of this Zion talk and also like, do we really

1327
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: want athletes continuing to do podcasts? Are we sure about that?

1328
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: Coming up next Martin and VJ coming to Your Life

1329
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 3: from the Tyrack dot Com Studios and VJ talk about explosions.

1330
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 3: We have had a we have had an explosion, I'd

1331
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 3: say since twenty twenty of athletes doing podcasts, this is

1332
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 3: the most recent one that we've come across. I believe

1333
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: this is credit to the Pat bev pod since he

1334
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 3: has one, because everybody needs to know what Patrick Beverly

1335
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 3: is thinking at a time like this, do we have

1336
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 3: that sound ready? I don't care how you said, like

1337
00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 3: it was a reason of different.

1338
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 11: I just wanted championship.

1339
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 3: Playing in the playoffs, bro was they was telling us

1340
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 3: our plays.

1341
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 12: They were like all right, you know, they just they

1342
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 12: weren't even talking.

1343
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: Right to the area and the person that was just

1344
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: randomly right there. I'm like, how is this possible?

1345
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 12: But they also what what's one of the things that, like,

1346
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 12: you see, it was more special what we did in

1347
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 12: Minnesota because we had we had like what like a

1348
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 12: month and then we had training camp and it was

1349
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 12: like you better figure it all out right now, and

1350
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 12: we really figured it out quick. Think about they have

1351
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 12: what's been the lead for years. If you think about

1352
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 12: you four years, we got it done it four months.

1353
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 3: So the main thing that if I was there, I

1354
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 3: like to try to put myself in the room. I

1355
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 3: would ask Carl Karl Anthony Towns, who was Patrick Beverley's

1356
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: teammate last season they were talking about the Minnesota winning

1357
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: the play in series and then first wrong when Pat

1358
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: was crying that seems to be the one. I would

1359
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 3: ask him, what exactly did you get together in four months?

1360
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 3: Like what you know? Saying like because he clearly has

1361
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: a feeling of accomplishment, and I I would like to

1362
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 3: know what is it exactly that you feel as if

1363
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: was accomplished? That would be you know that that's my major,

1364
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, like like okay, cool, four months went by,

1365
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 3: and what change to where you can make this an

1366
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: analogous moment with jo Kich and Murray and the two

1367
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 3: man game winning that championship. Oh man, I don't know.

1368
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm laughing because no more I hear it

1369
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 6: when he was like they did it in four years

1370
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 6: what four months?

1371
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Speaker 3: Like you did?

1372
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Speaker 5: Would you do?

1373
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 3: You know what? I mean?

1374
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 10: What?

1375
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 9: What?

1376
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 3: What in the hell did you do?

1377
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 10: Bo?

1378
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 6: We were just talking during a break and you actually

1379
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 6: softened the forty four a second. But when I hear

1380
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 6: it again, yeah, all that went away, all that I

1381
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 6: said during the break where I might give him. I

1382
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 6: know the guy's been through some stuff.

1383
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 3: But Bro, listen, these these guys get on these podcasts

1384
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: and say anything.

1385
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 6: Martin I told you before. I think Draymond doing them

1386
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 6: after a game is I don't like it. I'm sorry, dude,

1387
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 6: you just finished playing focus man like you could do

1388
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 6: one like on your off days. But right after games

1389
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 6: when he gets home, he puts on his light is

1390
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 6: ring light, gets in front of the camera, holds the

1391
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 6: microphone and starts talking and does his Draymond Green podcast.

1392
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 5: I just this baffled me.

1393
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: Bro.

1394
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,360
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not surprising anymore about what Beverly does

1395
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: and says.

1396
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: But to hear Karl.

1397
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 6: Anthony Towns say that, and I guess another quote was,

1398
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 6: I don't know if we have to sound for it

1399
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 6: that he changed when when he retires people are gonna

1400
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 6: say he changed the game. Yeah, yeah, that's your gutto man,

1401
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 6: is any of your Tier one, I mean disrespect me.

1402
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 13: They did send the Clippers home, so that's that's a win.

1403
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true anytime the Clippers getting sent home happy.

1404
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: But like, I don't think that, like I don't know see,

1405
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 3: and this is part of the issue that you have

1406
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: with I have with like the athlete based podcast kind

1407
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 3: of in general is there's no space. Me and bj

1408
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: spent forty five minutes for the first Hourist show debating

1409
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: who was right and who was wrong. They don't ever

1410
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 3: do that. Nobody is over there saying, Carl, what are

1411
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:06,959
Speaker 3: you talking about.

1412
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 13: There's no pushback. That's why they do it.

1413
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 3: And the number one thing with a bullet for me

1414
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 3: is Lebron's the shop. I recently went into a barber shop.

1415
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 3: You can see because I have this haircut. When I

1416
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 3: was in the barbershop, people would somebody would say something,

1417
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 3: and at this time it happened to be Tupac and Biggie.

1418
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 3: Somebody getting a haircut mentioned that Tupac being the best

1419
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 3: rat forever and this is Los Angeles, not a crazy

1420
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 3: thing to hear. Somebody else said, no, it's Biggie Argumented

1421
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: sued I'm thirty three years old begetting my haircut for

1422
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 3: approximately twenty five of those thirty three in public. You

1423
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Fuck Dad was taking care of

1424
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 3: it in the crab first second grade, you know what.

1425
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 3: But No, the one constant across almost every barbershop I've

1426
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 3: been in is argument and debate. Yep, that's just you know.

1427
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 3: But you watched Lebron First of all, he's been balled

1428
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: in for the last fifteen years or still got a hairline,

1429
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 3: got the nerve.

1430
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 5: To get his haircut on HBO.

1431
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: That's how I know. That's how you know. It's magic

1432
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 3: and green screen right Hollywood ain't real right there. But secondly,

1433
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: I ain't never been in a barbershop where everybody is great.

1434
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 8: No.

1435
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 6: I was a barber for years in Northern Virginia and

1436
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 6: then DC, and when I first moved out here in

1437
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 6: LA seventeen years ago, I was cutting in South Hollywood,

1438
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 6: right above Beverly Hills. I missed cutting here. I missed

1439
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 6: being a barber. I missed the barbershop simply because of that.

1440
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 6: Everything is a debate, Everything is a discussion. Where we

1441
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 6: get in lunch today, who got the best sandwiches from

1442
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 6: the corner stores down the street. And when sports are

1443
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 6: TV or music or any of that type of guy

1444
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 6: stuff comes up, it is all out warfare in the

1445
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 6: barbershop and these shows. You guys are right, Bo, You're right.

1446
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 6: There's never any pushback. And I get called at hater

1447
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: when I called out Lebron's shop, I said, Bro, all

1448
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,680
Speaker 6: it really is is people which just sitting around just

1449
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 6: kiss and his ass. Honestly, that's what they're doing. There's

1450
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 6: no pushback. It's a platform for people to talk about

1451
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 6: themselves and everybody to pat him, want to back and

1452
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 6: go yeah, you're right.

1453
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. So coming up next, we'll get Mark with Danny.

1454
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 3: He's not pulling any shots. We know that to be sure.

1455
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 3: We'll come get him after Steve de Sega updates us

1456
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: everything in the world of sports. Steve, you know, I'm

1457
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 3: an LSU fan, man, Come on, Yeah. College baseball going

1458
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 3: on here. LSU ranked fifth in the country and their

1459
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: opener at the College World Series. They're up to nothing

1460
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: in the fourth against the Tennessee Valls. This earlier game

1461
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 3: number one, wake Forest scored two in the bottom of

1462
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 3: the eighth to beat Stanford three to two. The late

1463
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: rally started with two walks. There was a weather delay

1464
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 3: then in that opener of an hour and a half

1465
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 3: in the top of the seventh, And did you see

1466
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: yesterday's openers in Omaha or Roberts in the College World

1467
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: Series for the first time since nineteen seventy eight, scored

1468
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 3: four in the top of the ninth to win six '

1469
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 3: five against TCU, which had just scored three in the

1470
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: bottom of the eighth, and number two Florida yesterday and

1471
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 3: its opening game scored three in the bottom of the

1472
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 3: ninth to beat Virginia with two late solo homers and

1473
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: a basis loaded sackfly. So yes, things definitely underway in Omaha.

1474
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: As for the late MLB games, there are three. The

1475
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 3: Dodgers will be hosting the Giants in a half an

1476
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: hour right now on Fox TV, race at Padre scoreless

1477
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 3: in the fifth. The late game will be on FS

1478
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 3: one ten pm Eastern Time. The Diamondbacks, first place in

1479
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: the n West, hosting Cleveland Yankees at Red Sox rained out.

1480
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow. Well, we've got golf going

1481
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: on long into the night Eastern time. Ricky Fowler had

1482
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 3: led the US Open by one stroke to start the

1483
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 3: day one over Wyndham Clark, but it's Clark, an American,

1484
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 3: who now leads by one over Fowler, the southern California native.

1485
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 3: They're each on the eighth hole of round number three.

1486
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 3: Late starts for the leaders. LA Country Club is hosting

1487
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 3: the Major this weekend. Harris English. The US is tied

1488
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,479
Speaker 3: for third, two strokes back, tied with Rory McElroy, who's

1489
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 3: about midway through his third round. Xander Schoffley in fifth place.

1490
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: He's four strokes Baha. West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins

1491
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 3: was arrested for DUI last night. He had a drunk

1492
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 3: driving conviction as Cincinnati coach in two thousand and four.

1493
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 3: US men's soccer plays Canada Sunday night in Las Vegas,

1494
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 3: Vegas Strip, hosting the victory parade for the NHL champion

1495
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 3: Golden Knights tonight. USFL regular season ends tomorrow on FS

1496
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 3: one and Fox. NASCAR is off tomorrow Father's Day extra innings.

1497
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 3: In baseball today, White Sox in eleven one at Seattle

1498
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 3: four to three, Phillies in twelve innings one at Oakland

1499
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 3: three to two, five straight wins for the Phills. They

1500
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 3: scored in the eleventh and twelve innings. The a's at

1501
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 3: home nine and twenty eights attendance was twelve thousand. Today,

1502
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 3: Braves won their fifth in a row victories from Miami

1503
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: and Saint Louis and Kansas City in a game on

1504
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 3: FS one, beat the Angels ten to nine. In the

1505
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: last three innings of the comeback, the Royals scored eight

1506
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: runs nineteen and fifty one as Kansas City's record, ending

1507
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 3: the ten game losing streak. The win to Eraaldus Chapman. Yes,

1508
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 3: the x Yankee closer is still in the league.

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01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 9: He allowed one run in the top of the ninth,

1510
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 9: but did end the frame with a strikeout at one

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 9: hundred and three miles per hour and then got credit

1512
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 9: for the victory.

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01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 5: Back to you, thanks Steven.

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01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 3: Without further Ado, Martin Vidde come into your life from

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Speaker 3: the Tireck dot Com studios. Let's get my guy in here,

1516
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 3: Mark Madina, Fox Sports Radio Insider. Look, we need this

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 3: intro music today. It's in a busy day in the

1518
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 3: NBA and I cannot wait to get into it with

1519
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 3: my man himself. They'll funk you Call Madina, Mark Medeina, Mark,

1520
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 3: what's going on my guy.

1521
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 14: Uh, not much other than waiting to hear for your

1522
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 14: chakes on the NBA. You were telling me he got

1523
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 14: some hot one.

1524
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well here you go.

1525
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 3: I personally, we'll start with the news of the of yesterday.

1526
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 3: I suppose John Morint I personally thought it was kind

1527
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 3: of Goldilocks into.

1528
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 5: Three bears right here, three grizzlies.

1529
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: Baby, It wasn't quite too long, wasn't quite too short.

1530
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 5: I think they got it just right with the twenty

1531
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 5: five games suspension.

1532
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 14: Yeah, look, I don't know how I feel about it,

1533
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 14: because I think at the end of the day, what

1534
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 14: ultimately matters is the NBA going to hold John Morant

1535
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 14: a cantle and making sure that he changes his behavior

1536
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 14: as well as will John Morant do it. I mean,

1537
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,519
Speaker 14: I think, you know, dating back to the first of

1538
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 14: an incident, it just really felt like that all parties

1539
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 14: involved were all about more words and actions and that

1540
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 14: you know, this kind of enabled the second go around

1541
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 14: to happen. So yeah, I guess when you look at

1542
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 14: it compared to other players that were punished, you know,

1543
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 14: certainly wasn't going to match the severity of run our

1544
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 14: test and his role in the Palace brawl or Trell's

1545
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 14: free well for choking his head coach or Gilbert Reens

1546
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 14: for bringing guns to the locker room. But I do

1547
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 14: think that it was warranted for him to get that

1548
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 14: kind of suspension even if he didn't break a law,

1549
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 14: because one this came on the context, So this wasn't

1550
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 14: the first go round, right, And I think you know,

1551
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 14: from a league standpoint, knowing that John Morant is one

1552
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 14: of the stars in the league, they don't want to

1553
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 14: be sending any kind of messages to you know, his

1554
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 14: fan base that you know, gun violence is okay or

1555
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 14: anything like that in terms of glorifying it. So we'll

1556
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 14: see what happens next season.

1557
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 5: Hey, Mark's going on.

1558
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 6: Man, if your Memphis front office, it seems like they're

1559
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 6: probably going to stick by him. Nike put out a

1560
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 6: quote that they're going to support and also stick by

1561
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 6: him too. But if you're the Memphis front office, where

1562
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 6: do you go from here? How do you handle this

1563
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 6: and how do you move forward with this and making

1564
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 6: sure that this is something you can't lose your superstar

1565
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 6: for twenty five games that can set them, that can

1566
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 6: set the season back right there they start off you know,

1567
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 6: ten and fifteen, nine and sixteen something like that.

1568
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 3: In those games he's not.

1569
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 6: Playing, you're climbing the uphill battle the last four months

1570
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 6: of the season after Christmas.

1571
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 5: If you're in the front office, how do you attack this?

1572
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 14: Yeah, well, I think what's interesting there's two things from

1573
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 14: a basketball standpoint. Don't get me wrong, John Morant' is

1574
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 14: one of the best players in the league. They're obviously

1575
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 14: going to miss him, but they've had a lot of

1576
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 14: experience in excelling without Jahn Morant because of his different

1577
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,679
Speaker 14: injuries as well as you know, his initially game suspension

1578
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 14: last season. I think Tyas Edney has shown that he's,

1579
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 14: you know, really one of the best backup point guards

1580
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 14: in the league right And that's part of it. But

1581
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 14: I think the bigger question is where they go from here,

1582
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 14: is how do they handle and manage Sean Morant moving forward. Look,

1583
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 14: I don't think that it's productive to try to make

1584
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 14: an example out of Jahn Morant. We are humans at

1585
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 14: the end of the day. He is young. But it

1586
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 14: really felt like last season that they really kind of

1587
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 14: gave him the small market syndrome where it was about

1588
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 14: tiptoeing on eggshells around the superstar. Don't want to alienate him.

1589
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 14: At any time that there are any you know, missteps,

1590
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 14: they always made excuses for him, and I felt like,

1591
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 14: even though Jaw's his own man and he's only he

1592
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 14: is responsible for his own actions, I felt like that

1593
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 14: kind of environment helped enable that kind of behavior. So

1594
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 14: what they can do moving forward is follow what the

1595
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 14: NBA says that it will do in saying that there

1596
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 14: are certain conditions that he has to meet before being

1597
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 14: reinstated after that twenty five game suspension. So you know,

1598
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 14: give him the resources that he needs as far as

1599
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 14: whatever counseling, mental health services, you know, just organizational support,

1600
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 14: but also hold him accountable and making sure that one

1601
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 14: he's not lashing guns on any more IG live videos.

1602
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 14: But also I think a broader point of you know,

1603
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 14: while these are our adults. This isn't college you know

1604
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 14: sports where players have curfews or anything, but being professional

1605
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 14: and accountable and knowing you know, when's the right time

1606
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 14: to go out when when is it not. And it's

1607
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 14: a really fine line because again, there are adults this

1608
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 14: professional sports league. They can enforce what every player is

1609
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 14: doing on our own time, but there is a way

1610
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 14: to I think recognize when will those things affect the

1611
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 14: team or not. They gotta, you know, lay the groundwork

1612
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:10,600
Speaker 14: on that.

1613
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: So from one small market coddling situation to another, I'll

1614
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 3: put it like this, things have changed in New Orleans

1615
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 3: because if you to hear the way that Zion Williamson

1616
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 3: is being openly shopped across the NBA, it's like it's

1617
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 3: like the Kmar going out of business sales, like you

1618
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 3: want a blue light special because we got one down

1619
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 3: here in New Orleans. I'm of the belief that they

1620
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 3: might have to attach something else to move on from Zion,

1621
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 3: though at this point in game, At this point in

1622
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 3: the game, am I off on that?

1623
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 14: I guess you never know. I don't think you're off

1624
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 14: in the sense that the same reason why New Orleans

1625
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 14: might want to consider train him in the first place,

1626
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 14: the injury history. We're just looking at Howie is on

1627
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 14: the basketball court alone, there's no way in hell the

1628
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 14: Pelicans should be entertaining any trade scenarios. But that's the

1629
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 14: bigger thing at hand, is that they just haven't known

1630
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 14: when he's going to be available. And look like to

1631
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 14: be clear, the professional off the court stuff, whatever he

1632
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 14: does in his private life, like that's his own business here.

1633
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,560
Speaker 14: While why New Orleans has been talking about this, or

1634
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 14: at least thinking about it, has had everything to do

1635
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 14: with just the unpredictable nature of his injuries. And I

1636
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 14: guess it is predictable because there's always new ones coming up.

1637
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 14: And I think what's frustrated Pelicans is when I've talked

1638
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 14: to people internally, they have been adamant that he's doing

1639
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 14: the right things. He's taking care of his body, he's

1640
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 14: you know, being around the training staff and putting the work,

1641
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 14: and that they've also been adamant that, you know, his

1642
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 14: hamstring injury that sidelined him the last part of the season,

1643
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 14: it wasn't related to his foot injury. It wasn't like

1644
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 14: a thing of his body over compensating. And so to

1645
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 14: the Pelicans perspective, they have stress that Zon's doing the

1646
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 14: right things. But at the end of the day, if

1647
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 14: your star player is not going to be available on

1648
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 14: a consistent, you know, a set of games, and you're

1649
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 14: paying them that much money, at some point you do wonder, Okay,

1650
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 14: should I rip the band aid off and make some

1651
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 14: tough decisions. And I think that's where New Orleans is

1652
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 14: at because of the fact that this is a pretty

1653
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 14: good draft, and if they can move up to number

1654
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 14: two or number three, you have a possibility of getting

1655
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 14: Scoot Henderson, who could be seen as a generational talent.

1656
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 6: Martin Madana, Fox Sports Radio and FS one, NBA Insider,

1657
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,920
Speaker 6: Hero and Martin and VJ two minutes.

1658
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 3: Mark smoke screen.

1659
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 5: Is this build thing a real big thing that's going

1660
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 5: to happen?

1661
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 3: Dude?

1662
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 6: Does the Wizards want to get away from this contract?

1663
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 6: We hear the Suns. We're here the Heat, and I

1664
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 6: don't know if you're better. I don't know if you're

1665
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 6: championship team, if you're Heat, if you get Bill Martin,

1666
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 6: thing's differently. But is this just smoke screen stuff because

1667
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 6: the NBA just needs to be talked about leading up

1668
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 6: to the draft, or is this something that can really happen.

1669
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 6: I don't think this deal happens. I think Bill's a

1670
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 6: Wizard next year, at least to the trade deadline. But

1671
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 6: what are you hearing on this?

1672
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 3: Brother?

1673
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 14: Well, welcome to the NBA off season and so it's

1674
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 14: all about right. Yeah, Look, I think the discussions are real.

1675
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,200
Speaker 14: No one's making these things up. But at least from

1676
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 14: what I've been told earlier in the week from Washington.

1677
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 14: Then it wasn't a conversation that they had with Bradley

1678
01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 14: Beal where they said, you know what, we're definitely starting

1679
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 14: things from scratch. And it was definitely not a thing

1680
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 14: that Bradley Beal said he want out. It was more

1681
01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 14: of the new front office. They're trying to get the

1682
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 14: lay of the land, get a sense of if we

1683
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 14: do go in the rebuilding stage where he would sit,

1684
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 14: and at that point it was, hey, let's try to

1685
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 14: find a better deal. That being said, I do think

1686
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 14: that he will eventually get traded. I just don't know

1687
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 14: when that will be. But why I think we'll be

1688
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 14: traded as they have a new front office and Michael

1689
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 14: Winger he used to be with the Clippers, Travis Lank

1690
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,640
Speaker 14: used to be with the Atlanta Hawks. The common denominator

1691
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 14: is both the value asked us. You know, his time

1692
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 14: with the Clippers, Michael Winger wanted to have young, versatile

1693
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 14: wings and draft picks with UH with Travis Schlank in

1694
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 14: Atlanta when he took over, they were a middling team

1695
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,840
Speaker 14: that could make the playoffs, but you know, just didn't

1696
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 14: really go far. And I remember talking to him a

1697
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 14: few years ago and he said, yeah, I felt like

1698
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 14: the team's best days were behind him, so he decided

1699
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 14: to cut, you know, bait with some players and that

1700
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 14: resulted in dating the draft pick that got Tree young

1701
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 14: and then they made some playoffs success. So I think

1702
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 14: it's a matter of when, not if. But I don't

1703
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 14: know if that's going to happen this week. But the

1704
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 14: reality is conversations are going to happen because that's what

1705
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 14: happens leading into the draft because there's always leverage involved,

1706
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 14: and we know.

1707
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 3: If the conversations are happening, Mark Madena will be an

1708
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 3: ear on the wall and let us know everything that's

1709
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: going on in the NBA. Mark, Hey, you don't need

1710
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 3: a netro track clause buddy with us would never ever

1711
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: put you on the market. Thanks for coming on, my guy.

1712
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 14: I appreciate you Fox Sports Radio for life.

1713
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 3: Right, you know it, man, you know it.

1714
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 6: I love you, Mark, God bless man, coming Thanks brother.

1715
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 6: Coming up next on Uncle Vjy's Corner. If you guys

1716
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 6: want to know how to become not only a Vanilla

1717
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Speaker 6: Brothers Sister of the Week, but how I became the

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Speaker 6: big Vanilla funny. I have a Triple Threat Award winner.

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Speaker 6: This week all that and were coming up next on

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Speaker 6: Martin VJ Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Marlin VJ coming to your line from the tire rack

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Speaker 3: dot Com Studios. Without further ado, let's get it in

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Speaker 3: an Uncle Vj's corner. All right, everybody gather around. It's

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Speaker 3: that time of the week. Oh man, it's that time

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Speaker 3: of the day.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling y'all, man, Yes, it's time for everyone's favorite uncle.

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Speaker 3: And you add the cherry on the top.

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Speaker 1: It's time for Uncle Vjy's corner.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, everybody out there, walcome to Uncle Vj's corner.

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01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 6: I'm your Uncle VJ. Vern a Husky, the big Vanilla Funny,

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01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 6: and I got a special Ripple Threat Award that I'm

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Speaker 6: handing out today. Man, come on over here and have

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Speaker 6: a seat with me on the corner of Vanilla Boulevard

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Speaker 6: and a handsome drivers.

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Speaker 3: I'm always chilling.

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Speaker 6: Out here in Los Angeles. Beautiful today, eighties seven degrees.

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01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,680
Speaker 6: We got t shirts and shorts on. It feels like

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Speaker 6: real La weather today. I'm gonna tell you guys about

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01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 6: three people to get the award this week. I want

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Speaker 6: to start with a lady that was born back on

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 6: today because today is her birthday June seventeenth, nineteen fifty five,

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01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 6: in Inglewood, New Jersey. This woman went off to be

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01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 6: in the military, raised three boys all by herself, teach

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01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,600
Speaker 6: them all about integrity, passion, love, give us all the

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01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 6: things that we needed in life. I remember this woman

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01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 6: once playing tackle football with me and my friends out

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01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 6: at Edison High School field in Springfield, Virginia on Beulau Road.

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Speaker 6: She taught us how to play football, taught us how

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01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 6: to play baseball, basketball, taught us how to do.

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Speaker 3: Just about everything in life.

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01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 6: And I still mimic her meat loaf recipe, which all

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01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 6: my friends love to death. This woman went off to

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01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 6: the military to become an officer in the United States Army.

1754
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 6: I got pictures of her with Rosa Parks with mister

1755
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 6: Colin Powell. How about those two names right there? Retired

1756
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 6: to colonel out of the Pentagon, and now owns her

1757
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 6: own company and is a doctor.

1758
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: I had to move on to another gentleman.

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01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 6: I was born on September twenty first, nineteen sixty in

1760
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 6: Southeast DC, who was also a military man too, serving

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Speaker 6: for the Navy for a little while before he became

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01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 6: a computer engineer in Washington, DC. This gentleman taught me

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01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 6: how to defend myself in, how to fight, taught me

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Speaker 6: how to be a man, taught me how to stand

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Speaker 6: up for myself. It taught me how to be comfortable

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Speaker 6: about being in my skin. Taught me how to cut grass,

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Speaker 6: taught me how to keep a yard nice. Taught me

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Speaker 6: how to build the shed. Thought I was gonna go

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Speaker 6: ride my bike that weekend. No No No nine come

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Speaker 6: in this backyard and helped me build this shed. But

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Speaker 6: I tell you this, by Sunday afternoon, I stepped back

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01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 6: with my hands on my hip like I was the

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Speaker 6: Brownie paper towel man. It was proud of what I

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01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 6: did because of this man right there. Another gentleman I'll

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01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,919
Speaker 6: bring up was born April first, nineteen thirty nine, in Waycross,

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Speaker 6: North Carolina. This man taught me how to fry fish.

1777
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 6: This man taught me how to how to pack a truck.

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01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 6: This man used to load us up in the brown

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01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,839
Speaker 6: van and take us to basket rob on the weekends

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01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 6: and take us to white castles after spaking us.

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 3: How do you like that? I get your spaking.

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01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 6: I'm gonna disciplinate you, but I'm gonna take you and

1783
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:07,680
Speaker 6: get you some white castle, and I'm gonna take you

1784
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna get you some ice cream. These three

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01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 6: people are why I am the way I am, not

1786
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 6: who I am the big Vanilla Funny VJ. Vernon Husky,

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Speaker 6: It's who I am because of these three people. And

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01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 6: I want to say, because of these three people, I'm

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 6: able to live the life I live and I am

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Speaker 6: the person that I am. And I thank the three

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01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 6: of you four Miss Glendore, doctor Spearman, my mother. Happy

1792
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,839
Speaker 6: birthday to you, Glenn Thomas, my pops, and also my grandfather,

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01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 6: Lord rest in peace, r Ipeter, my grandfather, Clarence Edward

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Speaker 6: de Witt Spearman.

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01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 3: Happy Father's Day to you and Heaven. Happy Father's Day

1796
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Speaker 3: till my pops. Thank you guys, Happy birthday till my mother.

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Speaker 6: The three of you are the Vanilla Brother and Sister

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Speaker 6: Doctor Sister of the week, Week Week.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next. The NFL is the only league that

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Speaker 3: does this, and it probably needs to change. BJ Fox

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Speaker 3: this practice that the NFL is participating in, it's un American,

1808
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 3: American American an American. It goes against what this country

1809
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 3: fault wars for the proliferation of communism and revenue sharing.

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Speaker 5: It's not American. I can't wait to hear. Let's take

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Speaker 5: go ahead, keep going where.

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Speaker 3: It's just the idea that you know, God forbid, you're

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01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: a high school kid with questionable hands and can run

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Speaker 3: like a horse. You know what I mean, because you know,

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01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 3: generally what they would do is put you at running back.

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01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:56,360
Speaker 3: Really right, Okay, put that running back and there's a

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Speaker 3: certain point on.

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Speaker 5: The fast kid, like the fastest kid on the team.

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01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 3: Horse. You know what I'm saying. Generally, you know, horses

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01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 3: are pretty fast. Overwhelmingly, I was paying attention to the

1821
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: bad hands part, because some running backs do have bad hands.

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01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: You put them running back, but ahead, well, they had

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Speaker 3: better hands. They play receiver. They're playing running back, and

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01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 3: it's like a run backward. They play cornerback or safety,

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 3: but they're running forward. This in this scenario, they're running forward, right,

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Speaker 3: But that kid gets to the league, and good luck,

1827
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 3: because if you're not drafted in the appropriate position, your

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01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: idea of getting a long term payday noll shit. I mean, well,

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Speaker 3: I should say it doesn't matter quite where you're drafted,

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 3: but no matter what the idea you're getting a long

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,640
Speaker 3: pay day is difficult.

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Speaker 6: And it's not only as difficult like you just said,

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Speaker 6: it's it's it's not only just un American. I just

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01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 6: think that it's now it's to the point where it

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01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 6: just makes for bad football, you know what I mean,

1836
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 6: Like football, one on one running football, stop to run man,

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01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 6: and teams are devaluing the running back position. And I

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 6: got a bunch of guys that listed down out a

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01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:02,719
Speaker 6: bunch but a few, but the running back is almost

1840
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 6: turning it.

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01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: Into the center position in the NBA.

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01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,840
Speaker 6: And the names that just come up with guys that

1843
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 6: are looking for money, looking for a contract, are looking

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01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 6: for an extension are Cook, Jacobs, Barkley, and Austin Eckler.

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01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 6: Those are the guys that I kind of looked at

1846
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 6: it and said, Okay, this kind of fits these four

1847
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 6: guys right here. Somebody tweeted me earlier and said, what

1848
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 6: about Zeke. I think Zeke's done. I think he's been

1849
01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 6: done for two to three years. I don't think he

1850
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 6: might not time with a team until training camp. Are

1851
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 6: running back gets hurt going into training camp. But when

1852
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 6: I look at these guys that are out there trying

1853
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 6: to get extensions or free agents, like, it's really surprising

1854
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 6: to me that Cook's not signed by somebody already. And

1855
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 6: I think it's because teams are just trying to wait

1856
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 6: him out and bring the price down because they don't

1857
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 6: value running backs anymore. Because I guess you can find

1858
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 6: a Pacenko round was he fourth, fifth round or something

1859
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 6: like that. Isaiah Pachenko was like four picks away from

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01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 6: being mister yeah, seventh round card.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, so seventh round pick. But you input them. You

1862
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 3: have a great coach, you got a great quarterback, you

1863
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 3: got a great tight end.

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Speaker 6: You got a system where a coach can use him

1865
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 6: any works, So you don't have to really overpay a

1866
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 6: running back to come in and run the ball when

1867
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 6: you got guys like Andy Reid and that front office

1868
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 6: there with the Kansas City Chiefs that can find the

1869
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 6: guy in the seventh round, mister Kyle, excuse me, Shannon,

1870
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 6: Mike Shanahan to the father he found back after running

1871
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 6: back orlandis Gary, Mike, Mike Anderson. Guys that can run

1872
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 6: for fifteen hundred yards and then they have to take

1873
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 6: them in the first, second, third round or give them

1874
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 6: big type deals. And when these running backs do get

1875
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 6: these deals, it's almost like you just kinda get one

1876
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 6: and after that one.

1877
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: That's kind of it. And I think Todd Gurley was

1878
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 3: the best example of that.

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Speaker 6: He got that deal, but they knew that knee went right,

1880
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 6: but they thought they needed to pay him to keep

1881
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 6: him and they could get enough at him to get

1882
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Speaker 6: to the super Bowl and then to the super Bowl.

1883
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:42,720
Speaker 3: They did.

1884
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 6: It was enough to get him to a super Bowl,

1885
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 6: but then after that they're like, Okay, goodbye. Alvin Kamar

1886
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 6: is a guy that just got recently paid. But he's

1887
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 6: got So this whole thing is a farce.

1888
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 3: Like this whole thing is a farce because in no

1889
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 3: other professional sport does it matter what position you play.

1890
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 3: If you are the best player at your position, you

1891
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 3: are getting paid a premium period. Stop. We just talked.

1892
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 3: You talked about you said the devaluation of the center

1893
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 3: in the NBA. But they still get paid your kitchen

1894
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 3: embiid is on Supermax. Yes, do you know what I'm saying?

1895
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 3: Like the idea that simply because this is one of

1896
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 3: your better players, but he plays this position. Is That's

1897
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: why I say it's un American. They're artificially suppressing like

1898
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 3: you looking about what you just said about Dalvin Cook. Oh,

1899
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: they're waiting to lower the price, to lower the market.

1900
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: Like the part of the reason why the market is

1901
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 3: continually lower and lower and lower because there's not a

1902
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 3: true free market. It's not a trend are there are

1903
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 3: very there are very few true free markets. However, in

1904
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: this scenario, you can't tell me you want to talk

1905
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,839
Speaker 3: about the collusion that is going through with Colin Kaepernick.

1906
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 3: This right here is it? To me seems part and

1907
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 3: parcel because the way is all set up by position.

1908
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 3: There's this intentionally squeezing the running back market out, like

1909
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:12,839
Speaker 3: the New York Giants for whatever reason not paying Saquon Barkley.

1910
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 3: Excuse me, have you seen your offense in the last

1911
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 3: four years. The beef with Saquon coming up was a

1912
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 3: he was hurt b he couldn't pass plot. The last

1913
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 3: two seasons he's shown he can be a complete back.

1914
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 3: You should be able to negotiate some sort of deal

1915
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: in which Saquon Barkley, who is by far one of

1916
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: the best players on the New York Giants, should be

1917
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 3: able to receive might be player. I'm just saying, I

1918
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: don't know, how do you want to do a defensive

1919
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 3: end or something, Dexter Lawrens whatever. I don't But but

1920
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,799
Speaker 3: I'm because I'm really trying not to make it arguable

1921
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 3: because there's no doubt he's the best five players. There's

1922
01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 3: no doubt about that. Right, it's inarguable. And if that

1923
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 3: is the case, he should be able to earn Dalvin

1924
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: Cook was one of the Who's better Kirk Cousins? Are

1925
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 3: Dalvin Cook?

1926
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 5: Dalvin Cook? Right, who's better Kirk Cousins or Justin Jefferson.

1927
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 3: Who's Like those are two moves that because Minnesota, hey

1928
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 3: is Kirk Cousins as a quarterback are moves that they

1929
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 3: have to consider. Well, we gotta, you know, we gotta

1930
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 3: re sign Justin Jefferson. So now what are you gonna

1931
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 3: do about Dalvin Cook? Like, because Kirk Cousins is some

1932
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 3: great shakes, It's like, no, this is intentionally like and

1933
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 3: I get it. Your injury risk is much greater at

1934
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 3: running back. But today people stop getting hurt playing football.

1935
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 3: Is today everybody's wearing flags.

1936
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you one night. I so, I guess

1937
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 6: I'll propose a question to you. Okay, So then what

1938
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 6: do we do then? I mean, is there is there

1939
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 6: any way to stop this? I don't think there's any

1940
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 6: way to stop it, but.

1941
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 3: I do believe that.

1942
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 6: There's been this poison that seeped into the league that

1943
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 6: you don't have to pay, like, don't pay a running

1944
01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 6: back and without a running back. And Christian McCaffrey was

1945
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 6: on the Rich Eisen Show and he said it so

1946
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,680
Speaker 6: perfectly that without your running back, Yeah, you got these

1947
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,680
Speaker 6: receivers that are all getting money, and quarterbacks are all

1948
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 6: getting money. But let's get real. You run the ball

1949
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 6: to set up to pass. You don't pass to set

1950
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 6: up to run. And if you do, it's gimmicky and

1951
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 6: it's not gonna last long. You have to run the football.

1952
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 6: So these receivers that are getting open. You know why

1953
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 6: Justin Jefferson can go for eighteen hundred yards, and that's

1954
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 6: because his running back is running for thirteen fourteen hundred yards.

1955
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,240
Speaker 6: That's why you're seeing so much one on one coverage.

1956
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,640
Speaker 6: Our safeties are dipping up a little far in the

1957
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 6: play action. It's because of the guy back there. But

1958
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 6: if you don't have that, then you can't get open,

1959
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,680
Speaker 6: you can't get your one on one, you can't get

1960
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 6: room to free room to roam around and be free.

1961
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 6: So it always starts with the running game. And I

1962
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 6: think that the respect the running backs has also gone

1963
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 6: away too. People just don't respect running backs anymore. It's

1964
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 6: like I said, I don't have an answer for it.

1965
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 3: What do you do.

1966
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:53,560
Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do. That's the trend, that's the

1967
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,600
Speaker 6: way that it's going. And you can just continue to

1968
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 6: find these guys in late rounds and piece of men.

1969
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 6: What's gonna end up happening is kids are gonna want

1970
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 6: to stop playing running Honestly, kids are gonna want to

1971
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 6: stop playing running back. And when you get to the NFL,

1972
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 6: you already know you got about a four a year

1973
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 6: winning if you look at these backs that are looking

1974
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 6: for deals. Sik has only been in the league five years.

1975
01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: Jacobs he led the league in rushing last year five

1976
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,599
Speaker 3: yards to carry, three hundred and forty carries twelve touchdowns,

1977
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 3: seventeen for seventeen, started every game last year. He's only

1978
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 3: been in the league for four years, and he's damn

1979
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: near trying to beg Vegas to give him an exist.

1980
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 3: This is what happens. You run on your rookie deal,

1981
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 3: and after your rookie deal is over, there's just no

1982
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 3: mark and like it's impossible to okay for every Isaiah

1983
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:40,440
Speaker 3: Pacheco that works. Yes, and part because the best quarterback

1984
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 3: in the game currently is his quarterback.

1985
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 5: Right now, you go and look at Daniel Jones.

1986
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 3: Nobody in their right mind and maybe even nobody in

1987
01:29:49,560 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 3: the left is saying Daniel Jones is the.

1988
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 5: Best quarterback in the league.

1989
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 3: You maybe if you close your eyes and plug your ods,

1990
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 3: you can convince yourself you can win with them. I'm

1991
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 3: not even sold to that point, you know what I'm saying.

1992
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 3: But maybe, just maybe you can get to there. But

1993
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 3: if you're not running the ball effectively with Sakwon Barkley

1994
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 3: or whoever is a guy back there, that's the problem.

1995
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,760
Speaker 3: And the other thing that makes this when I say

1996
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 3: un American, is this it's essential. First of all, the

1997
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: idea of a salary cap goes against everything that capitalism

1998
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 3: stands for just for that record, just put that out there. Now,

1999
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 3: what essentially is happening with running backs. It's a salary

2000
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 3: cap inside of a salary cap, because now you can't

2001
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 3: make if the tender tag, what's the.

2002
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 5: Franchise tag for running backs? Like ten million or something.

2003
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 3: Like that, So any negotiated deal, and history shows that

2004
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 3: we will see these guys like Pollard.

2005
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 5: I think Posa Pollard signed his tag because you know,

2006
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 5: he's hurt. He didn't have a choice. Yeah, he didn't

2007
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:49,559
Speaker 5: have a choice. He's coming off of a had.

2008
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 3: But generally, we've we've seen in the history, we've seen

2009
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 3: these teams guys get signed to tags and then eventually

2010
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 3: negotiate a little bit of a longer term deal. But again,

2011
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 3: it's gonna at that nine ten million dollars because that

2012
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 3: is what the league has decided running backs are worth

2013
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 3: as opposed to across the board, as opposed to the

2014
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 3: best running backs in the league being paid as such,

2015
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 3: and then everybody else falling in line. They think about

2016
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: think about the concept the Minnesota Vikings just let Dalvin

2017
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 3: Cook walk and there's zero chance, there's zero chance unless

2018
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 3: they want to do football malpractice. That justin Jefferson is

2019
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 3: not a Viking at the end of after the year,

2020
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 3: after his rookie deal.

2021
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 6: Absolutely, he's got to be a Viking. I mean, coming

2022
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 6: off the season that he just had. But if you

2023
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 6: if you even want to look at just the highest

2024
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 6: paid running backs in the league right now going into

2025
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty three season, the highest paid running backs,

2026
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 6: these guys are guys honestly all off of like newer,

2027
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:54,679
Speaker 6: fresh deals. But once these deals are over there they're

2028
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 6: not gonna get another big deal. Once again, what do

2029
01:31:58,439 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 6: you what do you do?

2030
01:31:59,200 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 3: Though?

2031
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,720
Speaker 6: Kamar making fifteen million a year, No team after this

2032
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 6: deal's over, there's not a team that's going to pay

2033
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 6: him fifteen million dollars a year. Cook was at twelve

2034
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 6: point six, but he's looking for anywhere between ten to fifteen.

2035
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 6: I'm on a free agent deal right now.

2036
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: So it's like you said, I like the cap within

2037
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 3: a cap that's actually very very, very creative. So that's

2038
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,720
Speaker 3: just what's happened to the physicians, is this creative financing

2039
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 3: that the owners are doing and nobody's saying anything about it.

2040
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 5: Well, you know what I'm saying.

2041
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 6: Let me ask you this, do they have don't they

2042
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 6: kind of have the right to pay what they want

2043
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 6: to pay, Like, you know what, the franchise tag is, Okay, cool,

2044
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,879
Speaker 6: so we gotta do it. But if you're not franchise,

2045
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,360
Speaker 6: we don't have to give you the deal that you want.

2046
01:32:38,479 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 3: We could just we can find somebody else, or we

2047
01:32:41,000 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 3: can see what happens with the draft for so for me,

2048
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 3: and this is the issue there is. There's never going

2049
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 3: to be unless the entire like all the NFL players

2050
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 3: say hey, we're not standing for this. There's never going

2051
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,160
Speaker 3: to be a scenario in which there's not somebody else up.

2052
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 3: Like if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, for example, A'veon Bell,

2053
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 3: he walked, you've still been running the ball. But like

2054
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 3: everybody crushed Le'Veon for not signing the tag, It's like, well,

2055
01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 3: you know, and I do have a quick aside on that,

2056
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 3: maybe if he hadn't to going to the Jets with

2057
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 3: Adam Gase, who is Jets and at every step of

2058
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: the way, like maybe I just I just wish NFL

2059
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 3: could potentially go back and somehow put Le'Veon Bell on

2060
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 3: a better team after that, after that happened, after the

2061
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 3: Jets happened, just to see it maybe maybe because maybe

2062
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 3: just maybe like seeing some proof of it working would

2063
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 3: have a different idea. But if I'm if I like

2064
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 3: the Players Association the same way that they need to

2065
01:33:42,479 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 3: do something of a job, and Ren after coming down

2066
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 3: with the twenty five games of SPENSIONA should the least

2067
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:49,120
Speaker 3: show face of doing something. I'm the Player Association, bro.

2068
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 3: We got to have a real long conversation because because

2069
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 3: here's the thing. If I'm hitting four point fifty as

2070
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 3: a left fielder, as a first baseman or as a shortstop,

2071
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 3: yes I'm getting paid. If I'm hitting triple doubles from

2072
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,200
Speaker 3: if I'm six to one or from seven to one,

2073
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 3: guess what I'm getting paid.

2074
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:12,560
Speaker 6: Running backs are getting paid, though Christian McCaffrey is the

2075
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 6: league top back Kamaras at fifteen, Zeke was, but I

2076
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:17,759
Speaker 6: mean not anymore.

2077
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,120
Speaker 5: Zeke's not there. Davin was at the twelve point six.

2078
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 6: But you do have some guys and Derek Henry, Nick Chubb,

2079
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 6: they're both over twelve, Joe Mixon twelve, Aaron Jones twelve,

2080
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,160
Speaker 6: Sakwan will be the franchise at ten, and then the

2081
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 6: coach Josh Jacobs. But I think what these backs are

2082
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 6: asking for and Saquan said it when he was interviewed

2083
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 6: this past week that I want to be I'm not

2084
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 6: asking to be the highest paid back in the league.

2085
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 6: What I'm asking is to be paid respectably for the

2086
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 6: production that I give to our football team. And I'll

2087
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 6: tell you this, you take Saquan out of that offense,

2088
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 6: that's a six win team this year. Like if Saquan

2089
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 6: dun played this year, I don't care what eut you

2090
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 6: add it. You still need your back. And he came

2091
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 6: back and bounced back last year thirteen almost fourteen hundred

2092
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 6: yards and ten touchdowns. Austin Eckler is another really interesting

2093
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 6: one because people can point out where he's never had

2094
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:02,639
Speaker 6: a thousand yard season.

2095
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 3: VG. I'm like, yeah, I know that clear is the

2096
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 3: exact number. The is the guy.

2097
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 5: Yeah that should be getting paid exactly.

2098
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 3: I said.

2099
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 6: And but my rebuttal two has never had a thousand

2100
01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 6: yard season. Yeah, He's also had years where he caught

2101
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 6: the ball seventy to fifty four, ninety and one hundred

2102
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 6: and seven catches. So don't tell me just because he

2103
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,760
Speaker 6: didn't have a thousand yard a year in his career,

2104
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 6: he doesn't he can't catch the ball. He's still around

2105
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 6: eighteen to two thousand yards of yards from scrimmage on

2106
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 6: it as far as receiving and catching the football, so

2107
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 6: running backs do more than just run. There's something that's

2108
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 6: catching the ball too. Christian got paid. I just hope

2109
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 6: some of these guys also get paid too.

2110
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing it happen

2111
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 3: at anytime soon. It just really, it really is wrong

2112
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 3: that the NFL still slots salaries by position. Like the

2113
01:35:49,360 --> 01:35:52,280
Speaker 3: idea that that is the case. It is just not

2114
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 3: the same in any other professional sport. Like the same

2115
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 3: way they all got CBAS, they don't all got this

2116
01:35:58,160 --> 01:36:00,719
Speaker 3: and this, and it really is not need to revisit

2117
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:01,120
Speaker 3: this one.

2118
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:02,400
Speaker 5: It really is not right.

2119
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:05,480
Speaker 3: Coming up next, VJ wants to say where does Otani

2120
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 3: stack up in terms of all time great baseball players?

2121
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: Martin VJ, Fox Sports Radio, Martin VD, coming to you

2122
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,800
Speaker 3: live from the Tirack dot Com studios. And we are

2123
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 3: in at this point, VJ, after the NBA Finals ended,

2124
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 3: all due respect to the WNBA, we are in baseball season. Now. Yeah,

2125
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 3: it is baseball seasons. Baseball is every single day, so

2126
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 3: on and so forth, and it's just now is this

2127
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 3: is the time in which I start to pay attention,

2128
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:37,799
Speaker 3: like Christmas for the NBA, after the NBA Finals for baseball,

2129
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 3: here we are and it seems like, if you notice

2130
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:42,920
Speaker 3: that showtel Tony, he's pretty good at this sport.

2131
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,599
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, especially after what he just did coming through

2132
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,040
Speaker 6: Arleington and Globe Life Stadium to my Rangers. Four home

2133
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 6: runs in that four game set, and three of them

2134
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 6: were just I watched every pitch of all four games,

2135
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 6: and three of those shots were just blast. And then

2136
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 6: he also was on the bunk two where he went

2137
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 6: he pretty well that day also to going seven innings.

2138
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 6: I think it only gave him one run and gave

2139
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 6: him three hits, struck out six or something like that.

2140
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,680
Speaker 6: But I started to just really look at this guy.

2141
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 6: He reminds me a lot and not him the way

2142
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 6: we talk about and treat him as kind of how

2143
01:37:14,520 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 6: we talk about entreat Jokic, where you know he's great.

2144
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,559
Speaker 3: You could see he's.

2145
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 6: Really really really good, really great, but you're almost it's

2146
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,639
Speaker 6: almost like we're waiting for the moment to go. I see,

2147
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 6: I could see, Yeah, Yeah, there's the there's the chink

2148
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 6: in the armor.

2149
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about, right, there. Yeah he's not

2150
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 3: that good.

2151
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 6: Yeah he's he's cool at all, but he'll he'll fade

2152
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 6: out our he's flavored them up. And just every time

2153
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 6: I watch this guy, I'm like, Wow, this dude is

2154
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 6: really good, Like I can't find a hole in his game.

2155
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 3: And it started to make me.

2156
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 6: I don't think all time, and I try not to

2157
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 6: go that far back, but it didn't make me go, Okay,

2158
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 6: is this the best player I've seen in the last

2159
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:54,360
Speaker 6: ten years? And then I said, okay, let me go

2160
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 6: back a little more. Is this the best player I've

2161
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:57,680
Speaker 6: seen in the last twenty years? And I stopped it

2162
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,560
Speaker 6: right there, and my answer Mary, Mike might. I'm not

2163
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:02,680
Speaker 6: sure yet, but it might be. Yes, he might be

2164
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 6: the best all around baseball player I've seen. And I

2165
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 6: know he's just a pitcher and he's not a field.

2166
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:10,360
Speaker 6: He's not a field. I get that, but the pitch

2167
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,640
Speaker 6: and then it hit the way he does, it's just phenomenal.

2168
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 14: Man.

2169
01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 3: It's crazy.

2170
01:38:14,720 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 6: I even heard a baseball historian who said he was

2171
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 6: even tired of the Babe Ruth comparisons, and I'm like, oh,

2172
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 6: whoa guy's over fifty sixty. They loved throwing Babe Ruth

2173
01:38:23,439 --> 01:38:26,680
Speaker 6: out there, but he kind of puts some context to us. Like, listen, man,

2174
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:28,960
Speaker 6: there was a point Babe Ruth wasn't even pitching like that.

2175
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 6: He wasn't pitching that often. He was just a primary hitter.

2176
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 6: This guy is still doing both every day hitting and

2177
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 6: then pitching every four or five days. I think he

2178
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 6: might be the best baseball player I've seen in the

2179
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:42,479
Speaker 6: last twenty years.

2180
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 3: Well, I think the moment that you're waiting for is

2181
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 3: the postseason. Like, I think that would be the moment.

2182
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean the same as Jokish. Like everybody was down

2183
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 3: on Yo. I'll say everybody, but people who were down

2184
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 3: on the people who were down on Jokis were like,

2185
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,839
Speaker 3: all right, that's awesome.

2186
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 5: He has one of your seasons is incredible. I'm not

2187
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 5: trying to downplay that.

2188
01:39:01,240 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 3: But you make your name in the playoffs, you make

2189
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 3: your name in the postseason, you make your name when

2190
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: games count that much more then now that Joki has

2191
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,480
Speaker 3: done that, went through a playoff run, which was incredible.

2192
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 5: By the way, sixteen and four, right, I mean.

2193
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 3: That's how it wasn't a historical right most points, mostly

2194
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 3: since most rebounds, but ever, but like to the point,

2195
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 3: he also was doing stuff like that in the regular season,

2196
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 3: so like when you see him doing it in the playoffs,

2197
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:34,599
Speaker 3: it's a confirmation. However, before seeing it happen, you never

2198
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 3: you didn't know, because I mean, we see it all

2199
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 3: the time where athletes are great in the regular season

2200
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,560
Speaker 3: and not so great in the postseason. I mean, just

2201
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 3: think of the run we just had, right, Michael Porter

2202
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 3: Junior was averaging twenty points a game in the regular season.

2203
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:51,799
Speaker 5: As the playoffs went.

2204
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 3: Further and further along, he averaged less and less, and

2205
01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 3: to the point in the finals he was borderline unplayable.

2206
01:39:58,040 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 5: It's not a knock on him.

2207
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it, and I'm not saying he's a

2208
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:04,759
Speaker 3: bad player or anything of that nature. It's just things

2209
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,960
Speaker 3: change in the playoffs.

2210
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,320
Speaker 6: So are you just are you waiting to give your

2211
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 6: like your final Where is you gotta se him in

2212
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 6: a play got to sehi in a pot season?

2213
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because that's where that's where to me,

2214
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 3: where it really matters the most. Hard.

2215
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 6: That's hard in baseball, though, because you need a lot

2216
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 6: of things to go right in baseball for you to

2217
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 6: get Because Trout hasn't done nothing in the postseason, but

2218
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 6: people were calling him the best player in base is

2219
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 6: five players we've ever seen in our lives.

2220
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 3: The entire time that they were putting up Trout's war

2221
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 3: numbers up next to Miguel Cabrera's home runs and RBIs,

2222
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 3: I was like, this just.

2223
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:40,800
Speaker 5: Makes no sense.

2224
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: This is dumb. This winning should matter in professional sports

2225
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 3: should oh absolutely it should.

2226
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 5: Matter as far as but we're not in that error anymore.

2227
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 3: I'm with you, though, Bro, I mean, you've been doing

2228
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 3: showed me long enough, you should know I'm I'm with

2229
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 3: you as far as that's concerned. But the only thing,

2230
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,919
Speaker 3: the only pushback I'll give is the postseason thing with baseball.

2231
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:01,960
Speaker 3: It's like kick Griffy Jr.

2232
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 6: He didn't have a ton of postseason success. Like his

2233
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 6: biggest moment is rounding third base against the Yankees and

2234
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 6: sliding and and and the camera view of him on

2235
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 6: the stomach and all the teammates coming. That's like the

2236
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 6: best you're gonna get Griffy a post as far as postseason.

2237
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 6: But no one's gonna tell you that he's not a

2238
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 6: top ten five to two player of all time, probably

2239
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 6: top five depending upon who.

2240
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:26,160
Speaker 3: You talk to. But okay, we're talking skills and ability,

2241
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,320
Speaker 3: then sure you can rate that, but we're talking about

2242
01:41:28,360 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 3: the best, like the ones that are standing out in

2243
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 3: the history of the game. That's what I'm saying. They

2244
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,880
Speaker 3: make their names in the playoffs. Like I'm not saying

2245
01:41:35,880 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 3: that Shoe Time is not some not great. I'm not

2246
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: saying that. But if you if you want to sit

2247
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,559
Speaker 3: there and say I'm gonna wait to crown him until

2248
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 3: you see him win, I'm fine with it. Wow, I'm

2249
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: fly like I really truly am. And I don't I

2250
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 3: know Bo hates that Offendon. He called me an idiot

2251
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 3: for it well before well because it's hard and jumping

2252
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 3: here both hard in baseball, right.

2253
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 13: Yeah, the Angels scored nine runs today and they lost

2254
01:41:56,479 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 13: nine to ten because of the Royals scored two runs

2255
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,000
Speaker 13: in the bottom of the ninth Like that. Nothing Trout

2256
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 13: or Otani can do about that. They you know, tany

2257
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,519
Speaker 13: hit a home run today, Trout hit he hit two.

2258
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,080
Speaker 13: He he went two for four today. It's just harder

2259
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,600
Speaker 13: in baseball to do the individual greatness stuff like it.

2260
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 13: It's it's tough and doesn't doesn't show. He now lead

2261
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 13: the league in home runs, isn't he the League leading

2262
01:42:16,920 --> 01:42:18,960
Speaker 13: the whole runs. Now, yeah, it's all I mean, you

2263
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 13: can argue that Otani is the best hitter and pitcher

2264
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 13: in baseball right now. It's it's silly, yeah, And I'm

2265
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,360
Speaker 13: not trying to up to me. I'm not taking that away.

2266
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 13: At a certain point though, too, It's like I want

2267
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 13: these guys to win. Like we all know Kershaw is

2268
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 13: one of the greatest pitchers of all time, but it's

2269
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 13: different now that he has a World Series title exactly.

2270
01:42:36,680 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not saying that

2271
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 3: he's not great. I'm not saying like I'm not I'm

2272
01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:44,360
Speaker 3: not going that. But if you want us to put

2273
01:42:44,439 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 3: him up there in the all time Mount Rushmoores of

2274
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 3: the game, can he win a playoff series? But I

2275
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:54,519
Speaker 3: think baseball and I agree, and I don't think outrageous request, no,

2276
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 3: like can you make a wild card? And then maybe

2277
01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,960
Speaker 3: like at least I give somebody hell in the fever,

2278
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 3: like you know what I'm But isn't baseball the one

2279
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,280
Speaker 3: pro sport we do have where that like you just

2280
01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 3: said both that it's hard to put that Tony gwyn right,

2281
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 3: Tony probably wanted the great Day, right, Tony Gwynn. There's

2282
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 3: a perfect example. He can only go hit himself. He

2283
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 3: can't hit for everybody else, and he doesn't pitch.

2284
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 13: And you have you guys saw this story about David

2285
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 13: Freeze declining the induction into the Cardinals Hall of Fame.

2286
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:26,439
Speaker 5: Steve's doing this update.

2287
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:27,680
Speaker 3: Yeah I heard he.

2288
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 13: You know, he he had two at bats with the

2289
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 13: Rangers that change, you know, their season in one World Series.

2290
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 13: But other than that, he's not really that special of

2291
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 13: a player, and so he told the Cardinals like he

2292
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:41,599
Speaker 13: doesn't belong to be up there with you know, Bob

2293
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 13: Gibson and other names like that.

2294
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 6: And I'll tell you this on the Rangers World Series,

2295
01:43:45,880 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 6: if Nelson Cruz sells out on the wall and makes

2296
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 6: the damn catch, the World Series is over and they

2297
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:54,520
Speaker 6: win a ring. He you know, he kind of tiptoed

2298
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 6: into the wall, ferried into the wall and let the

2299
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 6: ball hit off of him.

2300
01:43:58,040 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2301
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, bad memories for But you know, I saw that

2302
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Tigers team, like I went on a huge rant about

2303
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 3: last week.

2304
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 5: They won the Al Central like a million times in

2305
01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:09,439
Speaker 5: a row.

2306
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 3: They had some of the best hitters ever and then

2307
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 3: Erlin Dre and Shrews you know what, they didn't win Jack.

2308
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, they didn't win nothing about

2309
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 3: the most they.

2310
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 6: Did win, though they won the world. Way about the

2311
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 6: team that did win that was the that was in

2312
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty four.

2313
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,759
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the twenty thirteen Tigers that had multiple

2314
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 3: Hall of Famers, multiple guys who are still making major

2315
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 3: impact in the league right now. They didn't win, Jack,

2316
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 3: And so no, I'm not saying they're one of the

2317
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 3: best teams ever, even though if you go look where

2318
01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 3: they all went.

2319
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 13: Sure, Yeah, baseball is so tough too, because even if

2320
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,839
Speaker 13: you do win a lot, you don't necessarily like become

2321
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 13: any Like Madison Bumgarner is one of the greatest postseason

2322
01:44:47,120 --> 01:44:48,720
Speaker 13: pitchers of all time, and I think he's going to

2323
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 13: be kind of forgotten because of the way his career ended.

2324
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 3: Yeah there, Yeah, Well he's not gonna make a Hall

2325
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,240
Speaker 3: of Fame or anything like that. Well, we do have

2326
01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 3: a news about one college back basketball Hall of Famer

2327
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,120
Speaker 3: coming down the pipe. Steve I said it, who wants

2328
01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 3: to get fired more than Bob Buggins. It looks like

2329
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 3: we might have found the solution to that with Steve

2330
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:09,360
Speaker 3: de Sega, with the trending or he'll just resign.

2331
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,280
Speaker 9: I'm glad you brought up the name. Tony Gwynn, by

2332
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 9: the way, one of the best hitters for average we'll

2333
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 9: ever see in our lifetimes. When Padres finally got back

2334
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 9: to the World Series nineteen ninety eight, unfortunately it was

2335
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,200
Speaker 9: against maybe the best team we've ever seen in our lifetime,

2336
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 9: the nineteen ninety eight Yankees. And yet Gwynn Homer at

2337
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 9: Yankee Stadium, batted five hundred in the World Series and

2338
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 9: they got swept.

2339
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 3: So there, and that's not on Gwen and that's not

2340
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 3: on gwyn But I still remember his postseason numbers, though

2341
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 3: I do.

2342
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 9: He dominated that series. He was phenomenal and sho heyo tani.

2343
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 9: I saw a stat this week. He became the first

2344
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 9: guy since at least nineteen hundred to at the end

2345
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,560
Speaker 9: of the night had the share of the lead in

2346
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 9: home runs and as a pitcher, had the lowest batting

2347
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 9: averaged against him for the year for the league at

2348
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 9: the same time.

2349
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 3: That's what's going on.

2350
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 9: So yeah, he hit his twenty third home run at

2351
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,839
Speaker 9: Kansas City today leads the league has fifty six RBIs

2352
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 9: tied for the league lead He's batting an even three hundred,

2353
01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 9: that's top ten.

2354
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 5: In the league.

2355
01:46:04,479 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 9: The Halos had won ten of twelve, and somehow Kansas

2356
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 9: City came back to beat him ten to nine, a

2357
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 9: Royals team that had lost ten in a row. Royals

2358
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 9: in the last three innings today scored eight runs. Eraldus

2359
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 9: Chapman gave up a run top of the night got

2360
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,760
Speaker 9: credit for the win. This game was on FS one

2361
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:23,640
Speaker 9: on Fox TV tonight. For most of the country. It

2362
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 9: was due to be Yankees at Red Sox that's been

2363
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:28,439
Speaker 9: rained out. They'll play a doubleheader tomorrow. By the way,

2364
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 9: Boston pitcher Tanner Hawk has a facial fracture after being

2365
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:34,680
Speaker 9: hit by a line drive last night. He is out

2366
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 9: of the hospital. Cincinnati won its seventh straight game ten

2367
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 9: three at Houston. Milwaukee shut out Pittsburgh five nothing. White

2368
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 9: Sox in eleven innings, won at Seattle four to three.

2369
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 9: Philadelphia won its fifth straight game. It was a twelve

2370
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,559
Speaker 9: inning win at Oakland three to two. A's have lost

2371
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:54,120
Speaker 9: four straight. A's record nineteen and fifty four, Royals nineteen

2372
01:46:54,200 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 9: and fifty one, just for the record. Atlanta and Saint

2373
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 9: Louis fifth victories right now on Fox TV. The Padres

2374
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:01,800
Speaker 9: lead the race two to nothing in the top of

2375
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 9: the ninth. Tampa Bay, best team in baseball record of

2376
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 9: fifty one and twenty two, have just two hits in

2377
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 9: this game. It's the first time Blake Snell, ex off

2378
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,839
Speaker 9: Tampa Bay, has faced the Rays. He had six scoreless

2379
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:16,600
Speaker 9: innings with twelve strikeouts. Giants at Dodger scoreless bottom of

2380
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 9: the second. The late game and a half an hour

2381
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 9: will be on FS one. Arizona, first place in the

2382
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 9: NL West, will be hosting the Cleveland Guardians at the

2383
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 9: College World Series. Number one wake Forest scored two runs

2384
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 9: in the bottom of the eighth to beat Stanford three

2385
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,639
Speaker 9: to two the final and in the opener for fifth

2386
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:34,760
Speaker 9: ranked LSU, It's Tigers over Tennessee for nothing in the

2387
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 9: top of the seventh, and you reference the college basketball item.

2388
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:42,200
Speaker 9: West Virginia basketball coach Bob Huggins was arrested for DUI

2389
01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:45,120
Speaker 9: last night. He had a drunk driving conviction at Cincinnati

2390
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:48,400
Speaker 9: coach in two thousand and four. Last month, Huggins's salary

2391
01:47:48,560 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 9: was docked a million dollars and he was suspended three

2392
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 9: games after using a slur during a radio interview. Now

2393
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:59,440
Speaker 9: ESPN reports Huggins could be resigning that that's the expectation

2394
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 9: that he and West Virginia have been speaking about this

2395
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 9: all day.

2396
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 5: Back to you, Thanks Steve.

2397
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 3: Let's get my main guy, Themarj Morrison here, MLB bro

2398
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 3: content reporter and a sneaky Angels fan. I met him

2399
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 3: this week, VJ, and he was wearing an Angels beanie

2400
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 3: in the middle of June in LA, which actually fit

2401
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 3: which bo video he in box me.

2402
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 5: He an Angels fan.

2403
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 3: So you know what, let's get to this right here,

2404
01:48:23,439 --> 01:48:26,720
Speaker 3: right now, Demarja, I got a question for you, bro.

2405
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 3: As we hear this intro music has show Hey O Tani,

2406
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 3: Show Hey O Tani the Angels wonderkin. Has he already

2407
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 3: locked up the American League MVP or is that still

2408
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,960
Speaker 3: up for Grass because he's doing stuff every night that

2409
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:42,960
Speaker 3: we've never seen before.

2410
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 10: It's locked up, man, Give that man the MVP now.

2411
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,599
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna disuspect other ballers out there. In my opinion,

2412
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:51,639
Speaker 10: I do believe he's gonna be the MVP this season.

2413
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 10: Seventh in his fifth in home run six and RBIs bad.

2414
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 10: I mean, that's the Angels, that's the Angels team.

2415
01:48:58,360 --> 01:48:58,760
Speaker 8: I bet.

2416
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 10: Yeah. No, he's a what is it? Leads the Angels

2417
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 10: in sixteen different categories, first in home runs, fourth and

2418
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 10: RBIs leads us an on base lugging, Like, come on,

2419
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 10: and we already know what he's doing on the mound,

2420
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 10: so you gotta give.

2421
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:14,679
Speaker 5: It to him to March.

2422
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 6: I appreciated your video to my inbox man with your

2423
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 6: little beanie on you. I'm gonna I'm gonna call you later.

2424
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna teach you how to trash talk. That was cool,

2425
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna show you how you really should because

2426
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:25,920
Speaker 6: you should have tagged it a spread it all over

2427
01:49:26,040 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 6: my page and have people come to me like, yo,

2428
01:49:27,720 --> 01:49:29,479
Speaker 6: who's just the march a dude coming at you? VJ

2429
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 6: I kind of like that, and I'd been like, Nahi Coal,

2430
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,200
Speaker 6: y'all leave my man alone. He knows what he's doing

2431
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 6: over there at MLB bro dot com. Speaking of your

2432
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:40,439
Speaker 6: Angels and speaking of oh Shawnee, what do you guys

2433
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 6: do with him?

2434
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 3: Is he is he gonna leave for four.

2435
01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 6: Hundred million, five hundred million somewhere? What's gonna happen? Say

2436
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:49,960
Speaker 6: you guys, because you're not making the postseason. So when

2437
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:51,639
Speaker 6: they don't make the postseason, he has this great year,

2438
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 6: Martin said, he's got to get to the postseason for

2439
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 6: Martin to be able to put him on that pedal stool.

2440
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 6: Does he leave you guys to go somewhe where you

2441
01:49:57,840 --> 01:49:59,360
Speaker 6: can get to the postseason so he could be on

2442
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 6: that pedal store? Where do you see this shaking out?

2443
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 10: I hate to say, but I do think, Okhani Leeves

2444
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 10: it makes sense for him to go to the Dodgers.

2445
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 1: Why not.

2446
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 10: You're already in the Southern count area. There's still a

2447
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 10: huge Japanese Asian population down there.

2448
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 13: Why not.

2449
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:16,519
Speaker 14: It's a big market.

2450
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,520
Speaker 10: You know, you're gonna have a chance at a championship

2451
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,400
Speaker 10: every year, you're going to be in the postseason. So

2452
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:22,720
Speaker 10: in my opinion, that's where I see him going there.

2453
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:24,360
Speaker 10: I guess a lot of other people see him going

2454
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 10: there as well.

2455
01:50:25,360 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 5: Now we see another team going right the Oakland A's.

2456
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 3: I mean, that's aw billboard they head up in Vegas

2457
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 3: right now, you know, basically putting up a celebration for

2458
01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,760
Speaker 3: the Golden Knights based off the Las Vegas A's, Like

2459
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 3: they put up a billboard and meanwhile, the Oakland A's

2460
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 3: lost today. I don't know a little, a little confusing there.

2461
01:50:43,800 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 3: But what were your thoughts about that reverse boycott as

2462
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 3: well as Rob Manfred's comments after it.

2463
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,400
Speaker 10: I love it from the fans perspective. As far as

2464
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 10: Rob Manfred, I am disappointed by that comment. It seemed

2465
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 10: like he was taking a shot at the fans. It's

2466
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 10: almost like, come on, bro, you know why the fans

2467
01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 10: aren't showing up. Don't make it seem like they've had

2468
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,560
Speaker 10: a reason to show up and they're just choosing not to.

2469
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:08,000
Speaker 10: You know, they don't have a product to cheer for,

2470
01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:10,360
Speaker 10: to be excited about, so why would they spend their

2471
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 10: harder money and show for the game. So don't try

2472
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 10: to make it sound like they're crazy for not showing up.

2473
01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 9: You know.

2474
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,480
Speaker 10: That's how I took it with that comment.

2475
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:21,720
Speaker 6: He made to Mars Day content creator from mlbbro dot com.

2476
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 6: Doing great work over there. Something that caught my attention

2477
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 6: as I pick up my baseball watching. As Martin said

2478
01:51:26,680 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 6: a minute to go, we're in baseball season. There's no

2479
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 6: more NBA games. Football is still a little bit of ways,

2480
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:34,920
Speaker 6: but we're in baseball season. Jt Rio Muto hit for

2481
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,879
Speaker 6: the cycle. Okay, only the twenty six excuse me, sixteenth

2482
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 6: catcher to ever do it since nineteen oh one, and

2483
01:51:41,080 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 6: I went and I looked it up. I was like, Wow,

2484
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 6: why is it only sixteen catchers and there's so many

2485
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 6: other positions that have much more, many more guys that

2486
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,879
Speaker 6: have done it. Why is it so hard for catchers?

2487
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,400
Speaker 6: What is it with catchers hitting for their cycle? Why

2488
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 6: there's only been sixteen of them since nineteen oh one.

2489
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 10: Well, we know a lot of times power usually isn't

2490
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 10: an issue for catchers. Most of the time it's speed.

2491
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:03,880
Speaker 10: And I think what trips that catches up is getting

2492
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 10: that triple. I think I think that's what holds them

2493
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:08,599
Speaker 10: up a lot of times, from getting that from hitting

2494
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 10: that cycles and being able to get on their high

2495
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 10: horse and get that triple.

2496
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that too, And plus depending on what ballpark you're in,

2497
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,639
Speaker 3: you got to have real, real wheels to get a triple,

2498
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 3: you know, depending on otherwise sometimes in the worst case,

2499
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 3: you're out there left field or kicks the ball.

2500
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 5: Off the wall and yeah, it gets away from you

2501
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 5: type deal. DEMARJ.

2502
01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 3: Now, I know you don't really have your power five

2503
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:36,479
Speaker 3: teams here. I want to know what five teams are

2504
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: you expecting that potentially could make a move up the

2505
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 3: standings right now as we're at this point in the season.

2506
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 10: I love what the Cincinnati resid doing. I know that division,

2507
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,519
Speaker 10: I love them, I know, but I love what they're building.

2508
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 10: They're balling right now. They're aggressive on the bases, they

2509
01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:55,679
Speaker 10: can score, they can get. They're supposed to get Ladolo back,

2510
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:58,640
Speaker 10: I think sometime around August. I think it is so

2511
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 10: they can get him back. With the way hundred greens pitching.

2512
01:53:01,680 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 10: I know it wasn't his best outing today, but they

2513
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 10: still got the dub. I love what they're doing. Diamondbacks.

2514
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:08,280
Speaker 10: I mean, they've been the team to look out for

2515
01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 10: for a little bit now, but hey, even when the

2516
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 10: Dodgers get that rotation healthy, I still think the Diamondbacks

2517
01:53:13,240 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 10: might run away with this division. I love what I'm

2518
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 10: seeing from them as well. Another team who's aggressive on

2519
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,280
Speaker 10: the basis. They one of the teams who strikes out

2520
01:53:20,320 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 10: the least. So you gotta love that. Top five in

2521
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:26,280
Speaker 10: RBIs and then the Giants. Nobody's really talking about the Giants.

2522
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 10: They've been a sneaky team, eight and two in their

2523
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 10: last ten, won five in a row, got a real

2524
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 10: balanced lineup. They can score as well. Ninth and home

2525
01:53:34,439 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 10: runs ninth and runs KENFORDO. He's having a nice season.

2526
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 10: Nobody's really talking about him. Twelve homers, thirty six RBIs

2527
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 10: love what the Giants are doing in the Phillies. Phillies

2528
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 10: kind of got off to a rocky start, but as

2529
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 10: of late they've been hot. Eight and two in their

2530
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 10: last ten, won five in a row. They can score

2531
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 10: as well. Rotation has to get you know, get a

2532
01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,040
Speaker 10: little healthy and get some things in order. But and

2533
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,720
Speaker 10: then I gotta take the best for last. Anaheim Angels, Baby,

2534
01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 10: you're not doing that. Last seven and three in their

2535
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 10: last ten. One of the best offenses in the game.

2536
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:04,639
Speaker 10: That's a given.

2537
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:05,080
Speaker 5: We can hit.

2538
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 10: We could score ghet Rbi Zack Netto baller shout out

2539
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 10: to Netto. And we finally brought up Jordill. Hopefully we

2540
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,519
Speaker 10: can keep them up this time. It seems every time

2541
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 10: he hits a little rough pass they want to send

2542
01:54:15,160 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 10: him back down. But let him play through it, man,

2543
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:19,280
Speaker 10: let him get a groove and and then see what

2544
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 10: we can do. Finally got some youth up there, so

2545
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 10: that'll be my power fire.

2546
01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 3: You know what, man, we we we relax a little bit. Arlington.

2547
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 6: We let you take three out of four now, and

2548
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 6: now you guys just think you're all that, Like, come on, man,

2549
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:31,880
Speaker 6: you're still four and a half games back.

2550
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:32,240
Speaker 3: Listen.

2551
01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 6: I want to throw a team at you that I

2552
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 6: don't think we've ever talked about here and Martin, no,

2553
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 6: he won't admit it, but I will. I like going

2554
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 6: against this guy. That's what sports radio is about. Some time,

2555
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 6: when you gotta tand him. I want to go against

2556
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:40,640
Speaker 6: this guy.

2557
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,200
Speaker 3: So he's saying the Cincinnati Rads, I'm saying the Brewer

2558
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,839
Speaker 3: crew is gonna win the Central.

2559
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 6: Talk to me about the Brewers and how they're gonna

2560
01:54:47,320 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 6: hold on and win this division. So in September I

2561
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 6: can look at Martin and say, what happened to those Reds?

2562
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 10: I don't like the Brewers. They haven't They haven't really

2563
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,760
Speaker 10: grabbed a hold of that division. They should have been

2564
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 10: able to by now. The fact that the Reds are

2565
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 10: where they are, excuse me. I just think it's wide open.

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Speaker 10: I just think the Reds are super talented. I think

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Speaker 10: exceeding expectations. No matter what that division looks like, they're

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Speaker 10: already exceeding expectation, so I think just the fact they

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Speaker 10: could go out there and play free man. The Brewers

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Speaker 10: they kind of been slipping, so I don't really like

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Speaker 10: the Bruis and.

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Speaker 6: You know why you said what you just said about

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01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,280
Speaker 6: this song? It's eighties, baby, not top five of all time.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna debate that there's something because in the.

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Speaker 3: Eighties just came a song first, because I realized that

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Speaker 3: people who listen to the podcast can't hear the music.

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Speaker 8: So when you tears, everybody wants to rule the world.

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01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 8: Top five song of all time. Yeah, and it's on

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Speaker 8: my playlist.

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Speaker 6: I have it on my Apple Music because some nights

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01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 6: when I'm working out, I like eighties music. I just

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01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 6: run through my eighties music and you know, Africa, Toto,

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01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 6: out of Touch, Haul of Oates, There's some, there's some songs.

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Speaker 6: I was just listening to Sweet Freedom of Michael Mike McDonald,

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01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:07,640
Speaker 6: which is like you go to the grocery store and

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01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 6: Sweet Freedom goes on, Bro, You're dancing through they So

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Speaker 6: I don't know about top five, bro. But the reason

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01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 6: why you even said that is because it's eighty It

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01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 6: has eighties written all over it.

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01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 5: It's in like thirty movies that song right there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'll say I've just realized that as I've

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01:57:23,640 --> 01:57:28,120
Speaker 3: gotten older, The number one sign that I have gotten

2616
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:34,760
Speaker 3: older is that now I like super recognize the songs

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01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 3: being played at the grocery store. Yes, and now I'm

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01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 3: hearing songs from commercials. I don't know if you saw

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01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 3: the show Yellow Jackets, Yellow Jackets, the soundtrack was literally

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01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:50,720
Speaker 3: my radio where I was growing up. Songs that I

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01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 3: didn't even know the name of that I hadn't heard

2622
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 3: twenty five years, twenty years, and now it's just feeding

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01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,880
Speaker 3: Like I had no idea that song too was called

2624
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:02,160
Speaker 3: song Too. But if you ask me, like, I don't know,

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01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 3: of course, I.

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01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,640
Speaker 5: Don't know how every line, I know the whole thing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really crazy to think how far eighties has been,

2628
01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 8: because like kids that are in their twenties hear that

2629
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,600
Speaker 8: song everybody wants to rule the world. They're like, where's

2630
01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 8: this from, I've never heard this before.

2631
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 3: It's wild.

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01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, the eighties, the eighties were just Someone posted a

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Speaker 6: clip the other day of the last moment of the

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Speaker 6: show Miami Vice where Crocket and Tubs are standing outside

2635
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:27,160
Speaker 6: the white Ferrari. They reach over the car and they

2636
01:58:27,280 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 6: dap up Man and they get in. He drops somebody else.

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01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 6: I wanted to run rides at airport. Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 6: It just it symbolized just the eighties fashion cars, dress,

2639
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 6: guys wearing linen suits with the sleeves rolled up, guys

2640
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,280
Speaker 6: wearing suit jackets with just T shirts. That all started

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01:58:44,680 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 6: off of Miami Vice and the soundtrack to that TV show,

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01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:50,600
Speaker 6: along with a team and a lot of WWF reference

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01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:54,840
Speaker 6: stuff all plays today and everybody's ripping off the eighties

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01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 6: movie wise and music whyse So yeah, I'm with you

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01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:59,320
Speaker 6: on that. I don't know about top five, but great

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01:58:59,440 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 6: freaking song. The eighties were the one era, or the

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01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 6: one decade that I feel like I never got in

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01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,400
Speaker 6: touch with, man like I can even go back to

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01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 6: like the fifties and sixties and seventies.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what it is.

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01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 3: I've told this before, but when I became a radio host,

2652
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:15,120
Speaker 3: I said, I should know the top ten of every generation.

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01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 5: I know, I should be familiar.

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01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,560
Speaker 3: I should know that that was Tears for Fears, right,

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01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 3: I did know it was Tears for Fears, But that's

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01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 3: something that to me, as somebody who talks in microphones,

2657
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:26,760
Speaker 3: especially one of the younger people doing it, I should

2658
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 3: know this type of stuff. For whatever reason, the eighties

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01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,200
Speaker 3: kind of just I was like, man, what were we

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01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 3: all doing back then?

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01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:36,080
Speaker 8: This is the last time you were a person before technology,

2662
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:37,760
Speaker 8: the last job.

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01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 6: Well, that's true because our generation, we're the last to

2664
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,800
Speaker 6: remember what the world in life was like before the

2665
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:47,400
Speaker 6: internet and before cell phones and camera for I worked

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01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 6: in the cell phone industry.

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01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,879
Speaker 3: I remember the day the first the first.

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01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:54,160
Speaker 6: Demo smartphone got sent to our store for us all

2669
01:59:54,200 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 6: to train on and use and because we're going to

2670
01:59:56,440 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 6: be selling this in six months before it was the

2671
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 6: flip stuff with the intent of that up. And that's

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02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,320
Speaker 6: how That's just we're the last generation that knows what

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02:00:03,400 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 6: the world was like before everybody wanted to have access

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02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 6: to everything and wanted people to have access to them.

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02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,000
Speaker 3: You know what I think, like, what what did people

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Speaker 3: do in the elevator? Talk?

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02:00:13,240 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 8: Like?

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02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like, what are you supposed

2679
02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 3: to do? Are you serious? I'm supposed to talk to him?

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02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 10: Talk?

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02:00:18,400 --> 02:00:20,280
Speaker 3: Have you seen the state of hr these days?

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Speaker 5: My grandfather said, don't trust people that don't talk in elevators.