1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, the Pro Bowl Vote is here and awesome 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl starts with awesome players, and your vote help 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: decides who gets a spot on the a f C 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: and NFC rosters. So show your love, cast your vote 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: and make sure your favorite players make it to the 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Vote today and be entered to win exclusive 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: prizes at NFL dot com slash Pro Bowl Vote. Be 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast shouldn't be running on subpar tur 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast, 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: Dan Hansas. Joined in root build the Heroes, Mark Sessler, 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosa thought, what is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? WHOA? 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: What's up? Mark? Not too much feeling good? It's the 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: middle of the week almost How are you seven years 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: guys together that this chemistry does not even almost just 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: happen overnight? Listeners, I mean you can't teach this. We 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: are entering week eleven, Mark effective Thursday. Um. Famously, your 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: your view of what the NFL calendar is is different 19 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: than some others. Do you feel that we're halfway through 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: the season yet? I do? I also think that you 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: know you it was a narrative for many years that 22 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,559 Speaker 1: by now I had basically given up on the sport 23 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: and moved on to an off season mentality. It's not 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 1: true this time around, you feel good, you feel fresh. 25 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't true last year. It just I like to 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: kill old narratives that aren't actually based in fact anymore. 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the season the best I can. My team 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: can continues to be a hot mess on wheels, but 29 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: that's been a consistent B line through it all. You know, 30 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: it helps give you a little turbo boost your Super 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Bowl prediction Seattle Seahawks that is on Classic It's gonna 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna give. It's like, you know, injecting one of 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: those B twelves or whatever into your fay when you 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: can revise your Super Bowl pick in early November and 35 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: then sort of just right, we did that out like 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: it was some great predicted that no one needs to 37 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: know about the nuances involved. It just looks good right now. 38 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Does give me an idea that, um, right after Super 39 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Bowl or with like two minutes ago in the Super 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Bowl when the games decided, I will manipulate a photo 41 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: to make it seem like it was a post with 42 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: those super Bowl teams and then the score off by 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: like two points. So if it's one, I'll have it 44 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: and be like almost got it, just missed that. It works. 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: It's an effective strategy. Employ it. It gives me a 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: chance to, you know, bring up the fact that I 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: got the Ravens forty nine or super Bowl score correct 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: when we did our podcast way back in the day, 49 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: or what did we not have a podcast back then? 50 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Maybe that was this NFL do nobody cares. I predicted 51 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: the blackout though, which is a different type of prediction 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: to Nail. I. I predicted the Antler spray drama. Another 53 00:02:55,320 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: one to that game West at that point was a 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: dock with a drink in his hand and a laptop 55 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, in Los Angeles reporting during that Super 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Bowl footloose and fancy free. All right, Anyway, that's the past. 57 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: That was then. This is now and we have a 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: lot to get to. Um I mentioned week eleven, we're 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: gonna preview that first game it's the Steelers at the Browns. 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: I think we already we already talked about, um the 61 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: Broncos game being a dirt knap game for the Browns. 62 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: So but actually after some teams lose and the Browns 63 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: win if they if they figure out a way to 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: win that game, people in Cleveland are gonna be excited. 65 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. I don't know about you, Mark, 66 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: people in Cleveland will be yes. We will also, UM, 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: we're thinking about this, you know, with UM coaches, and 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: this will be become a bigger and bigger storyline as 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: we get closer, because now it's reached the stage in 70 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: the NFL where a full quarter of the coaches get 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: fired every year. I mean, that's crazy. One fourth of 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: the coaches go down UM and backing out like a 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: rule from the competition committed, not a rule. Imagine if 74 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: it was now, that would be kind of fun. I 75 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: mean everyone right, but it would be intriguing. They wouldn't 76 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: stick with the rule anyway. So I looked it up 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: about three months ago, almost three months ago exactly, I 78 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: wrote a column on this site about hot butts and 79 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: the hot butt rankings for head coaches. That's not the 80 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: headline they ran, but that's what it was. So we 81 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: could resurface that list and and check in UM where 82 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: those coaches are, and see what we think about coaches 83 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: as we enter kind of the home structure of the 84 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: regular season, and it also neatly ties in with and 85 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: we've been talking about this. We've been building this up 86 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: for a week. Erica Tampose her seg for the Around 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. See, you took this what I wanted 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: to do and turn it into a little something different, 89 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: which is cool because we like to create together. Right, 90 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: So you thought I was gonna come out here and 91 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: be all like, you know, but I'm not. No, No, 92 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: I would never say that, and I would never feel that. 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: I am excited because Ricky brought up the idea. Well, 94 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: if we're talking about hot butts, what about our own 95 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: person or past and some stories when our butts got 96 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: so hot we got kicked out of the chair. So 97 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: we'll all share a little dismissal story from our youth. Downstairs, 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: the new newsroom gugs like, oh, I'm so functional everywhere 99 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: I go. I can't even think of it place. I 100 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: didn't say that. It was kind of was that terrible. 101 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna like make up a story that 102 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: you've ever been fired, say not fired, I mean I've 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: like stopped showing up or whatever. I have a story 104 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: that I've only been fired once. Right, Ricky, I want 105 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: you to share a story too. If you have one 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Strawberry season just ends right, that's you can't get fired 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: from the strawberry job. That's what did they ask you 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: when you contract? Did they say, let's there's there's certainly 109 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: no contract. Everything is highly illegal what they were doing. 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Uh and uh. I was not back in the West. 111 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: That was the summer where I realized I'm never living 112 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: in Western Massachusetts ever again. And I haven't. I've stuck. 113 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: I've stuck to that. I have multiple fires. She got 114 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: out as soon as you know, not long after I did. 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: She knew nothing wrong with Western mass great, great place, 116 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: but you don't gotta go back. You forgot to mention. 117 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean it had to do with the hashtag. And 118 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: then I was fired. Trend trying to bring up a 119 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: trending task. Great. You always mentioned like we ride the 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: site geist, you know, we're like the times. So I 121 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: sent a bunch of different ideas, and I think this 122 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: is a good one. So yes, there is a hashtag 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: out there. The hashtag is again what and then I 124 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: was fired. We're going to share that story and then 125 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: talk about coaches who will be fired potentially, But before 126 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: we do that. Yes, one of the games of the year. 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: It's certainly in the conversation Monday night football at the 128 00:06:54,080 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Big Bell Bottom hit it Ricky for forty five waits 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: for the South. Michael Dickon puts it down. That kick 130 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: is away and that kick is gone. Good say ok, winn, 131 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: it's good. It's up forty two. Good Seahawks and overtime 132 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: went for the second time he had two weeks? Have 133 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: they been to be undefeated? Now? What's defeated San Francisco 134 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: forty Niners? What a game on Monday night football? Cook 135 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: Seahawks win it overtime and Jackson Meyer's government. What a 136 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: game I'll have watching Ross and Pete Carroll run out 137 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: for the middle of the field together both yankee each 138 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: other's sweatshirts. Oh, what a game. Steve Rabel Warren mot 139 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: Moon with the call. Jason Meyers hits the field goal 140 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: in the final play the final seconds of overtime, lifting 141 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks to a dramatic twenty four win and over 142 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: the forty Niners in Santa Clara, handing the Niners their 143 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: first loss of the season, turning the NFC West into 144 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: a wide open race between two teams that figured to 145 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: make serious noise in January. What a game, Chris Westling. 146 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: So many storylines that hit here overtime alone, you could, 147 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, write a book about. But what was your 148 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: big takeaway? As the Seahawks celebrated in the game that 149 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson called the craziest game he's ever been a 150 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: part of. Yeah, I felt like the broadcast booth was 151 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: trying to make this the Jimmy G referendum game, and 152 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I saw this. I will always 153 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: remember this as the Jadeveon clowning imposing his will game. 154 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger said it's the best game he's seen by 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: a defensive lineman all year, and it ranks with any 156 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: game in J. J. Watts or Von Miller's career. According 157 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: to baldi, Um, I don't know about that. I don't 158 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: know how that's measured. But he was constantly and Jimmy 159 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: G's grill, it was constantly. It was maybe the healthiest 160 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners offensive line has been since September. 161 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: And it was also the worst game of the year 162 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: by far for that group up front, and it was 163 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: mostly Jadevian Clowney with some help from Geron Reid. But 164 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: but Clowney just taking over and he's sort of like 165 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: the bizarro um kirk Cousins. He does most of his 166 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: damage in nationally televised games against great team and they 167 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: both and they and Kirk Cousins got paid as we know, 168 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: so you can still do your damage when people aren't 169 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: watching and get paid a ton of money as at quarterback, 170 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: but when you do it in prime time, and if 171 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: you're a defender Clowney and Greg you remark this on Twitter. 172 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Was one of the first things that came to my mind, 173 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: is that game unfolded and he made was making play 174 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: after play, living in the backfield, causing fumbles, scoring touchdowns. 175 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be one of the highest paid football players 176 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: in the league, uh in a few months, and a 177 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: lot of that will tie into what he did. He 178 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: It was almost like he finally and I know football 179 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,680 Speaker 1: heads out there, well, if you really watch him week 180 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: to week, he's a game record, but no, no, no, 181 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: it's also he hasn't ever quite lived up to this 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: what week as a pass rusher, especially when he was 183 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: hailed as an LT figure coming out of South Carolina. 184 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: This was the game kind of people expected coming out 185 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: of college, and it couldn't have come in a bigger spot. Well, 186 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: his career has been defined by playing his very best 187 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: in December and the playoffs. I was at, you know, 188 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: the wild card game that he won, where I think 189 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: he was almost as impressive as this one. He had 190 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 1: a game late last season I think it was against 191 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles was very similar to this one. And if 192 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: you look at his PF score every year, September and 193 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: October is kind of okay, and then you get to 194 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: November and it's pretty good, and then it goes it 195 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: takes off and he's been money. It was one of 196 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: the best defensive performances I've ever seen. How could it 197 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: be better? They didn't touch him. I thought the two 198 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: tackles returning probably hurt them because they weren't ready to play. 199 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: They couldn't get a hand on Clowney, and the previous 200 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: two tackles they had in there had been playing pretty well. 201 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: So many of those moves that he made, especially against 202 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: Daley but McGlinchey too, he just made a move before 203 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: them and they literally didn't touch him. I mean, it 204 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: was wild to see. And he talked about it after 205 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: the game. Just the energy that that Seahawks team played 206 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: with from the first snap defense is a little different 207 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: where this has been a terrible Seahawks defense this year. 208 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: But they weren't, you know, they were playing with their 209 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: hair on fire from the very first snap. I thought 210 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 1: it was the best game of the year by far. 211 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: I don't think to me there was anything even even close, 212 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: because it just felt like a playoff intensity. I want 213 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: to go through it, but I mean, certainly with the 214 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: setting and the team's involved and like they added Quandary 215 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Dicks whoever, whatever the reason is, they all just played 216 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: much better than as a group than they ever have. 217 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: It was the kind of game that made me wish, 218 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: although this would be a scheduling, absolute mega nightmare, that 219 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: every game could be in prime time because there is 220 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: undoubtedly this extra energy that especially comes to a game 221 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: like this pitting two rivals where they are, their placed 222 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: in the division is chained engine before our eyes and 223 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: everyone shows up. And there are these contrarians out there 224 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: that said it wasn't the game of the year, it's 225 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: not even a great game because it's sloppy, there were turnovers. 226 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: Excuse me, well, by the way, those people that go 227 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: watch football and want to just forget about their day 228 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: to day lives. Turnovers are exciting turnovers where the ball 229 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: is bouncing around and then suddenly Jadeveon Clowney rolls into 230 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: the end zone and becomes this dominant force right there 231 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: in the middle of the game. That's enjoyable. There were 232 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: It wasn't just that. It wasn't just Seattle, because San 233 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: Francisco's line gave Russell Wilson nightmares five sacks of their own. 234 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: There were seven turnovers in this game, five lost fumbles, 235 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: two picks. It was chaotic and beautifully chaotic. They you 236 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: saw when the forty Niners were down twenty one time 237 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: you thought the game was over. That was the first 238 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: time they've been really like hit in the mouth all 239 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: year and they get a little break, but they made 240 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: the play on that, you know, touchdown fumble return and 241 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: then they turned up Just the swings in it were 242 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: were amazing, and I think the two quarterbacks had each 243 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: had their worst game of the year. Like it was, 244 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was a defensive It reminded me so 245 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: much of forty nine or Seahawks in two thousand, thirteen fourteen. 246 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, at that NFC Championship game. If you go 247 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: back to it, one of the great games of the 248 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: last decade. I mean you could call that sloppy too, 249 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: because it was a lot of hard hitting and turnovers 250 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: and big plays by defense. I've noticed there were a 251 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: lot of the big players are being made by new faces. 252 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: You have Drake Greenlaw makes the interception and overtime only 253 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: playing because Kwan Alexander just got put on I R 254 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: and is out for the year. Jacob Hollister has become 255 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: one of the most important pieces in Russell Wilson's aerial attack. 256 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: Two weeks in a row now, um, But the Seattle 257 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: Patriots where won that game last Josh biggest third down 258 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: to the game. Josh Gorton beats Richard Sherman. Chase McLaughlin 259 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: just signed off the street in the limelight there at 260 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: the end. You had uh wow, uh Goodwin and Dante Pettis. 261 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: You got those guys not a factor at all. They're 262 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: two best receivers last year. You can't even count on 263 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: them with Sanders and Kid. I think there is a 264 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: temptation and I wrestled with this last night. I was like, oh, 265 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: I should do with the Niners because the power rankings 266 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: were due. I kept them at one because I thought 267 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: even though they lost, listen their first loss of the season. Also, 268 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: when you factor in their opponent, that was always gonna 269 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: be a dog fight. You know, I don't I don't 270 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: think any any less of them now. I know with 271 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy G. And one thing that on the ESPN telecast, 272 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: Booger was getting half getting after Jimmy G a little bit. 273 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: He was careless with the football. He got away with 274 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: some turnovers. But you also need to factor in something 275 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: such as we talked about Clowney and how it was 276 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: a turnstyle. He was constantly had pressure on his face. 277 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: And then when you lose, when you have George Kittle 278 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: up in the luxury suite um and you have Emmanuel 279 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: Sanders in the locker room and then on the bench 280 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: with a rib injury, Uh, it did shine a light. 281 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: The only thing that I would say that I would 282 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: be a little nervous about was the depth on their 283 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: offensive playmaker side. Matt Breida left this game also an injury. 284 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: Kendrick Borne had a terrible job. Dee deebo Samuel went 285 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: over a hundred yards, but he had a drop that 286 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: heard him they targeted Ross Dwelly a lot. These are 287 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: guys that that maybe aren't ready for prime time, and 288 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: you saw it, and I think that affected Garoppolo's performance 289 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: because there was this urge and and like I said, 290 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: Booger said, oh, Jimmy G is not ready for this, 291 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: but he can't do it alone. I don't think he's 292 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: like that super duper star quarterback. And that's that explained 293 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: something to me. And I agree with West the idea 294 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: of pushing a referendum on Jimmy G, who has started 295 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: fewer games then at this point Baker Mayfield and Josh Allen. 296 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: He has started the same amount of games as Sam Donald. 297 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: And because he's been entrenched with the Niners with an 298 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: injury lost season in the middle, you forget this guy's 299 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: still learning the starter position. And he had everything thrown 300 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: at him last night, and you saw the last two 301 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: games his swings that I think it's fair though to 302 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: also just point out was his worst game of the 303 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: year when he was protected. His location was off on 304 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: so many throws, even the interception that I think it 305 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: was born dropping a lot of a lot out of 306 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: the drops. You know they weren't, they were just he 307 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: wasn't putting him on people. He had open receivers, and 308 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I did think, you know, they talk about people talk 309 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady's quiet feet, I mean his feet in 310 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: the way he was going through his progression just felt 311 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: very frenetic, and it's natural that that piled up over 312 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: over the game. But I also would say the first 313 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: quarter was kind of a disaster for him, and so 314 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily just clowning. But and yet we say 315 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: he looked maybe happy feet and the way that first 316 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: overtime drive started was not great, but he had them 317 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: in field goal position, and if Chase mclachl, the poor 318 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: guy makes that kick, we're talking about a totally different 319 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: situation right now, and the Niners or nine and oh 320 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: but the guy, poor guy yanked it into the tunnel. 321 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: Kicking is a hard gig man, uh, and that changes 322 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: everything around the Niners. So that was my thought in 323 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: the sense that, yes, you want to win, especially at 324 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: home against the division rival, but uh, don't bury the 325 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: Niners off one loss because it could have was a 326 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:01,359 Speaker 1: coin flip. What people like booger Um and their cognizenti 327 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: around the league, hes like what they want to see 328 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: is they know that Jimmy Garoppolo has had probably the 329 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: easiest quarterback job of anyone in the league this year, 330 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: always playing with the lead, always having a great running attack, 331 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: always having Kyle Shanahan's scheming people open, always having George 332 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: Kittle as the best player on the field, And they 333 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: want to see what happens when those things aren't there. 334 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: But then you you tend to overlook things like his 335 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: receiver's dropping ten passes, like Jadeveon Clowney being in his 336 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: lap every time. So it's not a referendum, it's it's 337 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: a one game thing. It's a it's a bad game, 338 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: and and a lot of it wasn't on him, but 339 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: a lot of it was. I think it was Russell 340 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: Wilson's worst game too. And that's the thing, like, I 341 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: don't think you need to pretend that I think Russell Wilson, 342 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: if anything, helped his m v P gas To me, 343 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: I I now I'm assigned to put it into the 344 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: debrief every week. Uh, it's a sponsor. Well, yeah, I 345 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: guess it's some it's a sponsor. And to me, Wilson's 346 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: way ahead of the pack, and last night, yeah, I 347 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: think so. I think Wilson has been so good every 348 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: single week um and makes his teammates so much better. 349 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: I look at his like, what's your average game and 350 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: his average like he doesn't have any down weeks, but 351 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: there's also seven weeks to go, which is in eternity. 352 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: It's funny he threw he has the most famous interception, 353 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: arguably in NFL history. Super Bowl forty nine. He threw 354 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: just a crushing interception near in the red zone in 355 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: overtime that first possession where it looked like they might 356 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: be going in when three and out, the next drive 357 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: to went three and out, and yet when when he 358 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: got the ball back again, and Greg, I'm sure you 359 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about Kyle Shannon's clock management as well. 360 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: When he got the ball that last time, I still 361 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: thought to myself, you know, there's no one else I 362 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: want in the league in this moment, because he has 363 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: such a steady hand, and you just he's a guy that, 364 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: even when he does occasionally make mistakes, because he's human, 365 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: you just trust him to not be ever overwhelmed by 366 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: a moment. And sure enough he just led him right 367 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: down the field and got Jason Meyers. He trusts himself. 368 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't like. I know that Russell Wilson 369 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: a magnet for criticism because he's a bit robotic and 370 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: a bit athlete robot minded and that's easy to poke 371 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: fun at. But at quarterback, the way that he operates 372 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: week after week, they seem he's the opposite of Jimmy G. 373 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: Where it seems like you're always watching the Seahawks have 374 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,719 Speaker 1: to mount to come back down thirteen or seventeen points 375 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: with twelve minutes to go, and it's like I was 376 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: watching that and it was a tough game in our 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: house because Simone is a suddenly revived and all plugged 378 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: in Niners fans in our seven year old Big Bell 379 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: Bottom was rocket, our seven year old Colton, who this 380 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: was the game where he he was rooting so hard 381 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: for the Niners that when they lost, it was like, Mom, 382 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: that was worse than me losing on my video game 383 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: in the garage. It's like he he it hurt him, 384 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: But I tried to tell him the Niners are not 385 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: this is not the end, because it's what's happening around 386 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy G. And they're very consistent and what they've done 387 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: so far is not flukey, and they have an awesome coach. Yeah, 388 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not too worried about them. I still 389 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: think they have the inside path, even though they lost 390 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: this game at home. I noticed, Greg, you are usually 391 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: on these things. You did not criticize Kyle Shanahan for 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: not getting closer on the field goal attend Uh. I 393 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: don't think he. I think I did tweet one little 394 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: thing about it. But uh, I think he probably regrets 395 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: his play calls on second in two setting up the 396 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: missed field goal. Are you talking about regulation when they 397 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,360 Speaker 1: hit it or I think he probably regrets that more 398 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: than the clock management, which will get to and I 399 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: think he should regret second and two and third and 400 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: one running the ball with the best running team in 401 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: the league. I don't think they just won. You know, 402 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: it wasn't the play calling. You gotta get two yards. 403 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: Both teams had a chance to end the game. Seattle 404 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: should have won the game in regulation, but they couldn't 405 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: pick up a yard with Chris Carson that ended up 406 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: giving the forty nine is a chance back the forty 407 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: niners second in two with this running attack, you figure 408 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: two runs. Whatever he chose, I'm sure he maybe would 409 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: like to choose a different run, but you figure you 410 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: can pick that up against Seattle and Puna Ford was 411 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: was pretty great on night too, and they just stuffed them. 412 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: You gotta give them the credit. And Shanahan did catch 413 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: heat because there was a position after the Seahawks go 414 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: three and out, the Niners get the ball back at 415 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: three or four minutes to play, and they know one 416 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: forty five Russell Wilson went three and out and they 417 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: punted under two minutes left with no time out. And 418 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: if you just if you play it, uh, well, I 419 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: guess the way to play it is do something safe 420 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: and keep the clock moving early in the down and 421 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: distance and then put it in a situation where you 422 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: either tie or you win. But I I got no 423 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: time for that, and I hate That's not the way 424 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: to look at it, though. What what is the what 425 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: was the criticism? Here's here's what I would say. It's 426 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: the same as that at the end of the half. 427 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: It's the same as the end of regulation. You have 428 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: one forty five in a time out. That is eternity. 429 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: That's not gonna burn any of your time. Whether you 430 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: want to call a run or a very safe pass. 431 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: It's not that you're playing for overtime. You're just trying 432 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: to not leave them any time to go win the game. 433 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: Talking over game overtime, it's not like you you're playing 434 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: for the tie. Rather, is what I meant to say. 435 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: You just don't want to leave them anytime. There's a 436 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: million screen passes or a run or whatever you want 437 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: to do. It's not like they would have run out 438 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: of time. They had all the time in the world. 439 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: That's just obvious and good coach. And you do the 440 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,239 Speaker 1: same thing at the end of the first half in 441 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: that situation, you would do the same thing at the 442 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: end of regulation. And you don't. You don't let them 443 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: have the ball because and we're talking about uh, there's 444 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: also some accountability as a failure of execution. They have 445 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: three chances to have a complete pass and they go 446 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: over three, right, And that was like the great, the great. 447 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: There were so many great plays in this game, but 448 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: the you know the shaq Griffin, you know, Shaquille not Sachem. 449 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: Shachim played quite a bit over Ziggy Onza first defensive 450 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: snaps I think since his like Week one of last year, 451 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: Shakim Griffin in that game. But Shaquille Griffin, that knock 452 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: away in overtime. I mean, that was an under thrown 453 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: ball by Jimmy G. You can't kill him for it, 454 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: but I'm sure when he's watching that film he wishes 455 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: I wish I got that out there for him. We 456 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 1: might have won the game, you know, all right. And finally, Greg, 457 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean you've vindictively locked against them in this game, 458 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: which you uh when it was. You know, I got 459 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: a little trolley on Twitter and I came after you 460 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: a little bit about your how you were reflecting and 461 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: in pain for leaving Seahawks Corner. And I think this 462 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: is this game, more than any game that we've seen 463 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: in sometimes such a reminder why you never leave Seahawks horner, 464 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: because it's just it is usually, like I said the 465 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: other week, it usually works out for the best on 466 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Seahawks Corner right there. Seven and oh, I'm not counting 467 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: that Saints you know game where they scored a touchdown 468 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: in the last play. There's seven and oh and one 469 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: score games. It is outrageous, But I enjoyed, like I 470 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: love watching them, so I don't know, I can't have 471 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: you back though, Like I don't need to be on 472 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: I like a game like this, like a game like this. 473 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: I enjoy it so much. And I enjoyed this forty 474 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: Niners team a ton too. I enjoy both these things. 475 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: You like every team break, so in terms of relati, 476 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: they're they're fun to watch. I don't like the Jets. 477 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't really like the Browns right now, because you don't. 478 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: I like good football. Like it's it's like, it's like 479 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: like a game like this is so much fun. It 480 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: makes me worried about why I put so much like 481 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: emotional enjoyment and energy into like a sporting event. You 482 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean? You know what I mean. I 483 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: mean I'm concerned about It's like it's like the same thing. 484 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: I was like, why do you Why do I cry? 485 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: It like the finale of Top Chef or any movie 486 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: that happens, but like you never would cry in like 487 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: normal life. You know, I couldn't. I couldn't go to 488 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: sleep and it wasn't rooting or really cared. Who want 489 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: too much? And I couldn't go to sleep for like 490 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: for this game because I was thinking about job you 491 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: love and never work a day in your life. So 492 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: what they say something like that, something like what we too, 493 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: we could do Mark is hollow. One of those hutches, 494 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: one of those eaves maybe and take our ski equipment 495 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: out of there and turning into the room that maybe 496 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Greg could come back into. But I don't know. I 497 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: don't think it needs to be three ft by three ft. 498 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a little tighter. They're too good. They're 499 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: too good right now. You know, I like them when 500 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: they were just a spark, a spunky nine and seven 501 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: uh team, they might go in. They might go in. 502 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: They they got good pretty quickly last year. I mean, anyway, 503 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: you were going to say something less about emotions. Yeah, 504 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: I almost cried in that Cardinals Bucks games every weekend. 505 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: That game might have pulled me out of the mid 506 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: season duldrums, right like what hole and the rest of it? 507 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: Enjoyment for this, I'm all in on Kyler Murray now, 508 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: and I might be all in on the Tampa Bay 509 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: Buccaneers as a as a fun team to watch. This 510 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: is great. We're seeing Devin White with flashes just running 511 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: through people like they don't like they're not even there. 512 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: Not that it's been a bad season, right, but we 513 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: needed a game like this, just a perfect time for 514 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: a great game, all right, um, all right, let's do it. 515 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Forget the news. I don't want to 516 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 1: talk about the news. We're not doing the news because 517 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: we gotta get right to it, Ricky, as promised. Um, 518 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: the segment, the hashtag that all the kids, all the millennials, 519 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: all the gen z s out there are talking about, 520 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: was when I was fired and then I was fired, Okay, Boomer, 521 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: and then I was fired and then I was fired 522 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: hashtag and then I was fired Ricky, why don't you 523 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: guys go? And I'm curious your seg your rules first? Well, 524 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: I mean, originally I thought we were going to only 525 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: antiquate this to football news because sort of like Greg, 526 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: I've never really had I've never been fired. I do 527 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: such a good job and all of my jobs, but 528 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: there was one time where I wasn't asked back. And 529 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: I was a production assistant on a reality TV show 530 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: in Rhode Island. They were filming for the day. Yeah, 531 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: while I was trying to get my start, I was 532 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: in college. I was like skipping school to work for 533 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: minimum wage like once in a while, to get on 534 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: a TV show to to try to you know, work 535 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: my way up into directing and whatever. And this was 536 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: for the TV show Dance Moms and the woman is 537 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,879 Speaker 1: now in jail. So she got fired by society in 538 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: a way, right, But so did I because I, uh, 539 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, to be a p a, you gotta just 540 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: put the blinders on and get through the couple of 541 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: years of getting beaten. You know, you're the first one there, 542 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: you're the last one off. You can't you can't say 543 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: anything to anyone. If you get someone's coffee wrong. It's 544 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: the end of the world. I mean that that. So 545 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: one of my jobs was to clean out Abby Wie 546 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Miller's trailer in between two of her like scenes and 547 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: it's reality TVs. It's like her driving around and the 548 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 1: amount of like chocolate rapper, candy bar and everything all 549 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: over the place was so like I was cleaning this 550 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: up and I literally was like, this is it was 551 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: out of a movie, Like that should have been the 552 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: reality TV show of what was in this trailer. So 553 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I was cleaning this up. And she is known on 554 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: TV for screaming at people. So I'm like, Okay, it's 555 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: fake or whatever. No, she's like that in real life, 556 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Like she is a word that I wouldn't even say 557 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: it is. So she is such a miserable person, but 558 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: another p a this other little girl who and we 559 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: were like eighteen. So she goes out and she comes 560 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: back and she was like, I wanted Ocean Spray um, 561 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: not Cranmery, just like pineapple, like specific brand. And the 562 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: girl comes back, she's like sweating and she's like ms ms, 563 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: like I went to the store and I got all 564 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: these different kinds of pineapple juice, but unfortunately, like there 565 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: wasn't the Ocean Spray brand. And this chick takes the 566 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: all the pineapple juice and dumps it out in front 567 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: of her and was like, don't bother coming back a 568 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: set then and through all the empty bottles that I 569 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: had just picked up, of all of all of your trash, 570 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, like, it wasn't my place 571 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: to say this, but I was like, hey like, I 572 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: don't think we should be like throwing bottles at eighteen 573 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: year old like empty bottles. And she was like, and 574 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: you just lost your ticket to honey, And then I 575 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: wasn't asked back the next the next day. That's a firing, 576 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: but you did the right thing. Wow. Miler, who pleaded 577 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: guilty to felony bankruptcy fraud and was sentenced and made 578 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen to one year and one day in 579 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: federal prison. She has since been released. The good thing is, 580 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean she sounds very drunk with power. Would not 581 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: be the case of anyone attached to this show in 582 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: terms of you know your she does have an event 583 00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:00,719 Speaker 1: coming up in Guadalajara the company stay there, honey, they're team. 584 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, she's really she. I really cried hard 585 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: that day, Well not for me, for that poor girl. 586 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: Like how could someone's messed up? People are bad sometimes? 587 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: All right, so we're gonna we'll space well, you know, 588 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: Pepper in this personal stories. But yes, as I said 589 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: back on August sixteenth, which is almost three months ago, 590 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: now time flies. Hey, Um, three months ago wrote the 591 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: NFL Hot Coach head coach job security rankings, Who's safe 592 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: question mark on hotsy question mark? No, no, no, they 593 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: didn't give me the headline. I wanted the hot butt rankings. 594 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: So let's just cycle through, uh this list, and we'll 595 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: see what's changed and what hasn't changed since August. All right, 596 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go quickly through some of these Belichick McVeigh, 597 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, John Gruden, and Doug Peterson in the top five. 598 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: All safe right now? All good, except I think Gruden 599 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: was there because of huge contract attached to him, and 600 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: there was a lot of people. I thought this season 601 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: could be an ultra disaster and he'd still be safe 602 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: because it was the Raiders. But I think he's safe 603 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: now because he's doing a great job this year. He's 604 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: doubly safe. Uh Andy Reid, Frank Reich, Pete Carroll at 605 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: eight and then Matt Naggy. He's the final one in 606 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: tier two. Uh that one is Matt. He's probably okay, right, 607 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: this has been a bad year so far. But is 608 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: there any scenario where his butt gets hot? I don't 609 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: think so, because why are they gonna flesh out the 610 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: GM and Naggie and start all over again. They've tended 611 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: to not make quick choices. Someone from behind the scenes 612 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: just came in and I said, yo, oh, hey, keep going. 613 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: It's not really possible for him to have a worse 614 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: year than he's had. Yeah, Like there's they have their 615 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: worst running attack I think since nineteen eighty. They're tight. 616 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: Ends are non existent. The quarterback took many steps back 617 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: in his development, and they have the same personnel as 618 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: last year. Just about you would like to see him 619 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: with a different quarterback. You would think that Trabisky will 620 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: be the scapegoat and they will find someone else to 621 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: be that quarterback. And if we have more problems next year, 622 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Naggy would be. I feel like it's a fair scapegoat. 623 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: And he one Coach of the Year last year. Sometimes 624 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: a scapegoating. I mean he's earned, it's not it's not totally. 625 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: Dick Duron once one Coach of the Year as a 626 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: as a coach of the Chicago Bears as well, and 627 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: then went four and twelve the next year. Um, Mark, 628 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: tell us when you were fired? Um, well, there's been 629 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: multiple times, Like I said, but I'm just gonna dug 630 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: into the ground one of the many. I'll pick one 631 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: of the many, and he's mostly all happened. How many 632 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: times you've been fired. There was a period that I 633 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: got canned from a job at age sixteen. But I 634 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: will put it this way. I did it brought a 635 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: hundred temp jobs. And sometimes you land and they just 636 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: think that you're the perfect fit and they other times 637 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: you're not. And there were many times I was not. Um, 638 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: this is one of the those jobs, a tempt job 639 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: that was if you work, will keep you around for 640 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: a while. And I really wowed them with my excel 641 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: skills in a company called cash Now, which is a 642 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: lot of places called cash now. At this point, excel 643 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: skills in what year? This? This about two? This is 644 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: two thousand one? Oh yeah, that were handy in two 645 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: absolutely Wait were you like a bail bondsman or so? 646 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: It was. Cash now places typically are like a a 647 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: storefront where people down on the luck for the most part, 648 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: might have gotten some sort of work or even an 649 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: unemployment check, and you come in and give them cash 650 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: for sixty of the check and keep the rest. Very nefarious, 651 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: and I did not. It was a family run business. 652 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: I was not part of the family. They brought me 653 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: in to do this excel business. I will make the 654 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: story quick to say that fate intervened that. You know, 655 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: I had just moved to Denver and I was living 656 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: with this couple, a friend, very good friends named Kiwie 657 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: and Leslie. They're a married couple, and so I'm like 658 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: in this spare bedroom, just trying to pay rent. So 659 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: I took this cash Now job weeks. Excuse me, Kiwi. 660 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: His name is John, but he's from New Zealand. So yep, 661 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: and uh, what happened was nine eleven happened. I didn't 662 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: think Erica's interjection could get worse than the last one, 663 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: but nine eleven unfurls out of nowhere on a morning 664 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: in September, right out of nowhere, according to most. And uh, 665 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there in this hotel this is where this 666 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: that we we were our company was based out of 667 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: a hotel room, which is should tell you something right there, 668 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: but we I was there doing a sixcel spreadsheet watching 669 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: New York burned to the ground, and all my friends 670 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: are in New York. I had just moved from New 671 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,359 Speaker 1: York City, and so I'm trying to get on the 672 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: as you remember that, trying to call anyone from the 673 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: East coast, you couldn't get through, basically, And I'll never 674 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: forget this because I wrote it down. This uh gem 675 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: of an individual, This boss who ran this company was 676 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: already tired with nine eleven, fourteen minutes into it, because 677 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: he wanted us focused on our est not cash, not 678 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: cash in two thousand and two right now. And he 679 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: kept saying, let's stay focused people, eyes on keyboard, eyes 680 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: on keyboard, And I'm trying to figure out what's happening. Yeah, 681 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: and so I like when and took I have to 682 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: go take a This was in Denver, so in his 683 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: world it was not something it was nine eleven was 684 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: a regional issue and not a hotel, right, a back 685 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: watertel room. Does he have like a whipping stick or 686 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: something for people who don't keep their eyes? He was 687 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: a very he was a very grading man, and so 688 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: he was annoyed with my my reaction to nine eleven 689 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: in general. And the next day he claimed it was 690 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: budget cuts, but I mean, please, he basically fired me. 691 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: And a mile away from the place I'm home, I'm 692 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: driving home in a in my least car got into 693 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: a major car accident and suddenly had no job and 694 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: no car. Um all right, the next I like that story. 695 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 1: I hate the story, and I hope that man got 696 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: I hope he's and where's the where's that wretched doler? 697 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,280 Speaker 1: Where's she? Now? He's making money off for seven hundred 698 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: thousand Twitter followers seven seven nine eleven. Guy there too, 699 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: right now, that's a man with perspective. The third tier 700 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: back on August, this was the feeling good, feeling secure, 701 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: life is good tier begins at number ten with Mike Tomlin, 702 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians, Sean McDermott, Bill O'Brien, Adam Gaze, and Mike Vrabel, 703 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: who is not feeling good feeling only one of those. 704 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: I think the rest of them are all fine. I 705 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear. I mean it's crazy that the 706 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: I've loved these reports in New York the last couple 707 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: of weeks with Schumer, uh Pat Shermer rather and uh 708 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: Adam Gaze, where it's like, hey, we're gonna be patient, 709 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: and then you read the article it's like, what, we're 710 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: us not firing him this week? It's it's his first 711 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: year on the job. That's not being patient. Like the 712 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: fact that you need ownership sources to say we're not 713 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: gonna fire the first year guy in the middle of 714 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: the season is ominous. You read all the time about 715 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: what owners are looking for in head coaches these days, 716 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: and Adam Gaze is the polar opposite of just about 717 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: everything they're looking for in a head coach, like able 718 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: to deal with the media, always has a nice bearing, 719 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: and leadership about him is polished contact. Yeah, this is 720 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: There's nothing that Adam Gaze does that is like, what 721 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: the new breed of head coach is supposed to be 722 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: nailed it h and in the offense is you know, 723 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: until last week, tracking to be one of the worst 724 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: in the history of the averaging averaging twelve points per 725 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: game before last week. Mike Tomlin has solidified his standing 726 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: right Absolutely, he would bump up to the higher tier 727 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: for sure. I don't think Bruce arians McDermot in my mind, 728 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: just because I feel like he is there and he's 729 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: staying in for a for a while. I left that 730 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: one at any Lynn. I was gonna say what at 731 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers and they things have been a little bit better, 732 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: but that was an ugly loss last Thursday night. I mean, 733 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,959 Speaker 1: what if they went off a cliff? Is Anthony Lynn 734 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: that's safe on a team that's going through a ton 735 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: of transition to begin with, or maybe that helps him, 736 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't blame him for their injuries. 737 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: He also is coming off like um naggy the fact 738 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: that he was a Coach of the Year candidate and 739 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: got some votes last year. I don't know if they're 740 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: looking to LESCo. I don't think you know who hired 741 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: him would would have any interest in fire him. So 742 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if the SPANUS is want to clean 743 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: house totally. Leo has been great too, right, He's he's 744 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: done a good job. No, I was gonna say, if 745 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: you go from thirteen to sixteen on this list, which 746 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: is Lynn O'Brien, Gaze Rabel, I don't think any of 747 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: those guys are necessarily safe if the wheels fall off 748 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: totally in these last seven weeks, do you guys think 749 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: I think all of them could be in danger in 750 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: that spot. Remember eight guys, eight guys on average the 751 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: last few years ago. Bill O'Brien just seems like he's 752 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: been through fifty wards at this point, has more power 753 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: than ever before. Right. I think he was took a 754 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: lot of risks with what he did before the season. 755 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: He's gotta keep it going. He's got to make the playoffs. 756 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: But he's on track to do all that. I mean, 757 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: he might be watching jedev and Clowney last night and 758 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: I wish that he didn't have to page at Evan 759 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: clown in seven million dollars to go away this year. 760 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: Nice job by Clowney. Yeah, I could say that west 761 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: Um the post office. You left voluntarily from there, right, 762 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: left voluntarily? I've never been fired. But I did have 763 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: a one day job giving him any grief. He didn't 764 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: do it, wasn't fired. I mean, I don't kept it 765 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: to himself. You know he didn't. He was about it. 766 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: You before I said anything, you like, Oh, this is 767 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: so hard. I've been so valued everywhere I've come. Before 768 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,040 Speaker 1: I said anything, you literally said, oh, I bet Greg 769 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: you you'll say that you've never been fired. I apologize. 770 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: I was. I was just between. It was my start 771 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: of my first year of college, my freshman year. So 772 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, and my dad, I think, 773 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: pulled a string or two to get me a job 774 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: with a big ice company in Cincinnati as a driver 775 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: driving a monster truck around these back roads of Kentucky 776 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: at Biana, Ohio. This is the days before GPS. I 777 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: had no idea where I was going, and um to 778 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 1: my naive eighteen year old eyes, the directions I was given. 779 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: Once I got out on the road, I could not 780 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: make heads or tails. There's no ways, you know, there's 781 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: no Google Maps. And I'm going to like Owensboro County, 782 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: which I've never heard of before, to drop off ice 783 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: at like some country store, and there's no like vehicle training, 784 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to manage just like long truck backing 785 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,239 Speaker 1: it into like these pony kegs and stuff. Um. I 786 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,880 Speaker 1: end up coming back around midnight from my from my delivery, 787 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: which was supposed to be It was like a Saturday afternoon. 788 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm want to watch college football and everybody, all my 789 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: friends are out partying, and you know, all the other 790 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: delivery drivers are back by five in the afternoon. Here 791 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: it is midnight. I come back ended up not even 792 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: making a couple of my last deliveries because it was 793 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: so late and I couldn't find the place put the 794 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: ice back in like the the receptacle tank ended up 795 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: spilling it all over the place, and I was just like, 796 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: I am never coming back to this wretched job again. 797 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: So I just no called, no showed, and my I 798 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: don't think my dad was too thrilled since he had 799 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: pulled the string. Classic let that down in a big spot. 800 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: That was a grow up situation, just too too much, 801 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: too soon for me. The next category is newbies. I 802 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 1: kept these and a these guys in a separate category 803 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: first time head coaches because typically they get more than 804 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: one year. So let's see, do we think any of 805 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: these guys are in trouble. I had Kingsbury at seventeen. 806 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, who three months since this has been written, 807 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 1: still doesn't have a win eighteen, Brian Floors nineteen, Freddie 808 00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: Kitchens twenty, Vic Fangio one, Matt Lafleur twenty two. How 809 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: did Gates get out of this group because he's not 810 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: the first time first time coach? Just like, how did 811 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 1: he get boosted up? Which is which was smart because 812 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: he could be fired. These guys have more runaway Kingsbury 813 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,879 Speaker 1: in the Flora on top of the world right now. 814 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: I know Kingsbury's record isn't great, but he's done what 815 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: you wanted him to do. Zach Taylor. I mean, he's 816 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: with that mom and pop franchise that doesn't pay two 817 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: coaches at the same time. They're gonna want to see 818 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: him with the number one overall draft pick or the 819 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: number two overall traffic. I mean they've got a nice yeah, 820 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: they've got a nice little lead there for that pick. 821 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: The Kitchens. There you go, Mark No, I mean, what's 822 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor also has shown me literally nothing, but I 823 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: get it. It's a it's a tough situation. Freddie Kitchens 824 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: the word that you catch a totally hold on all 825 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: the time. All the time we talk about do something 826 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: that difference. It's you for one of these thirty two jobs. 827 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not saying he doesn't possess those skills. 828 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. If I could make something up, 829 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna now. I think that's totally fair. 830 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: I just think from West's point, I don't think he 831 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: would be in any trouble. I don't think he'd be 832 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 1: in trouble even if you went out in sixth team. 833 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: But I guess you never know. Kitchens would concern me 834 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 1: because you know, you hear a little rumblings behind the scenes, 835 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: and the word or the type of word that seems 836 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: to come up over and over, and it's not a 837 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: shocking word if you're watching their games, is overwhelmed and 838 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: not totally ready to certainly make in game decisions. And 839 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 1: the play calling, which in theory was the mind meld 840 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 1: with Baker Mayfield and all this other stuff. The quarterbacks progressed, 841 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 1: the play calling is a weekly talking point, and it 842 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: couldn't be more of a talking point than it was 843 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: coming out of Sunday. And now what the coach killer 844 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: in Cleveland typically is not handling business against your own division, 845 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: which has been every Brown's coach. And Thursday Night, a 846 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs on the team against the Steelers will 847 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: get into that game. But things could go very south, 848 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: or things could get a lot I think from here 849 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: to the is what happens to Freddy Kitchens. The games 850 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: will matter a ton well. The hallmarks of poor coaching 851 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: traditionally are sloppy play, too many penalties, and undisciplined. I mean, 852 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: you've got the Jarvis Landry penalty after the touchdown. You 853 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 1: don't see Belichick's teams doing this. You don't see other 854 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: guys that he's the poster child right now for poor coaching. 855 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: I think Vic Fonjo could only be in danger if 856 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: the Broncos decided they want to reboot the entire machine 857 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 1: and they get Elway out of that position and Elway's 858 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: new guy or places him once his guy, that would 859 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 1: be the only thing. But I mean, that would be 860 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: quite an overthrow of power there not impossible, though that 861 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they want to. The ownership situation is 862 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: very murky, and you know there's confusion and you know 863 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: finagling going on. Behind the scenes when it comes to 864 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: the ownership, So they don't. They seem like they want 865 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: John Elway running the ship no matter what. Um. The 866 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: first job I ever had is also the only job 867 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 1: that I've been fired him. I was working at shop Wright, 868 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 1: which was a major grocery store chain still is uh 869 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: in the Northeast, and um when it was not very 870 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,439 Speaker 1: good at the job for the reasons that listeners might 871 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 1: be able to guess, my till was short several times. 872 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: I counter for a while, really basic, you know, because 873 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: it used to be much more difficult. People paid with 874 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: cash a lot more in the mid nineties, checks in cash, 875 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 1: and you had to kind of balance your til at 876 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: the end of the night. Now, if I'm sure, if 877 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: you work an eight hour shift at a grocery store, 878 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: of the transactions are going to be made with debit 879 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: or credit? Uh, if not more back then what like 880 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: of checks? A lot of money being exchanged. And so 881 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: my till was short a couple of times, but not 882 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: to the point where I was getting fired. I was 883 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: just put on this probation like, Hey, it's happened twice, 884 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: it can't happen again. Did they suspect you of potentially 885 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: take they always do because it's young punk kids. Me. 886 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: I know, not at all. I that was not who 887 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: I was. But then near the end of the summer, 888 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: um my buddy Bob and I his mother Linda ran 889 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: her own um um small business where she sold crafts, 890 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 1: little knick knacks and things of that nature, jewelry and UH. 891 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: At the end of the summer at the wild Wildwood, 892 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: New Jersey um boardwalk there was a big craft expo. 893 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this is where all the heavy hitters win 894 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 1: UH to end the summer for Labor Day weekend. And 895 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: for Bob and I it was the first time we 896 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,720 Speaker 1: ever got a chance to I would tag along with Bob, 897 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,279 Speaker 1: Linda and Bob's sister Lori, who hated me, and I 898 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: returned the favor as well. We we would we would 899 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: like each other, but back then we were all young, um. 900 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: But Bob and I it was a golden opportunity to 901 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, walk the boardwalk and stay at a hotel 902 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: and try to talk to girls. And that was also 903 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,759 Speaker 1: like around the time. One time Bob and I met 904 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: two girls and then we agreed to meet the next night. 905 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: And when we got to the meeting point to other 906 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,359 Speaker 1: like dudes, like big dudes, and one had a big 907 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: snake around his neck and a wife beater a shirt on, 908 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: and uh, we just walked away because we lost that 909 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: guy's get him a date. We were defeated on the 910 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: wildwood boardwalking. You had a snake, and you were taller 911 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: and older than us. We knew were already dead. That's 912 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: beside the point. Anyway, this weekend was coming up, and 913 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: I didn't really know how asking off really worked because 914 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: I was so new to working, so I kind of 915 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: forgot to ask until a week before. And then when 916 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: I did ask, I didn't hear back, and then I 917 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: just didn't go to work. And then when I came 918 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: to work the following Tuesday after Labor Day weekend, I 919 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 1: couldn't punch in and they're like, oh, yeah, you were 920 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 1: no call, no show, so we fired you. And I 921 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 1: was like, oh that's how things, And you know, I 922 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 1: love it. I do it again because it was fun 923 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: times down on the Jersey boardwalk. Now you're the man 924 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 1: with the snake around your neck and young people are 925 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: scared of you exactly. All right, here's uh the next group. 926 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: Uh John Harbaugh, this is the seat perhaps warmer than 927 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: preferred John Harbaugh, who might shoot all the way back up. 928 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to um the top the top tier anyway. 929 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera's in the top tier. Yeah, Ron Rivera twenty four, 930 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: Dan Quinn at, Mike Zimmer at six, Jason Garrett at seven, 931 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 1: and at number twenty eight Kyle Shanahan of the eight 932 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,719 Speaker 1: and one forty niners. So this is the second to 933 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 1: last tier, uh, the one you don't really want to 934 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: be in. Shanahan obviously is moving all the way up 935 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,680 Speaker 1: to the first tier. Um. But I would think that 936 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, certainly Dan Quinn and perhaps Ron Rivera all 937 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 1: in danger here. Well, I think dan Quinn is is 938 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: gonna lose his job. I think Rivera is the biggest mystery, 939 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: Like if they make the playoffs, it feels unfair to 940 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: fire him. And yet I don't know if that their 941 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: new owner is gonna just want to do a house 942 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: cleaning with with Rivera. It's up in the air. Everyone 943 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,399 Speaker 1: keeps saying the new owner, the new owner, but I've 944 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: never seen any indication that he does not like Ron Rivera. Well, 945 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: he didn't sign him to a contract, you know, when 946 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: Rivera wanted one, So that's that to me. I mean, 947 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it doesn't mean it's over. I just 948 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: think they he went into this year kind of knowing 949 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: what the score was. There's and there's some fun stuff 950 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 1: to unpack with Jason Garrett based off his press conference 951 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: on Monday, but maybe I'll save that for the Thursday 952 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: Cowboys preview. Are they playing this week? They are? They've 953 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: already hit their bike, right, so we'll talk about Jason 954 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 1: garrettmore on Thursday. Um uh. And then of course, yeah, 955 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan in the piece I wrote that, you know, 956 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: they believe in him, they just have to kind of 957 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: do it already, and they finally have kind of put 958 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: it together after going ten and twenty two, uh, in 959 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: those first two years. All right, now, the Danger Group 960 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 1: number twenty nine, Oh, before we do that, actually, let 961 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,800 Speaker 1: me go through this, and then Greg's started Danger Group, 962 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia Lyons, Doug Maron, Jaguars, Hat Sharmer Giants, the 963 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: number thirty two. He gone, who's the guy that feels 964 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: the best right now? Because once you get off the 965 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: hot seat and you're just getting paid money to do 966 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,280 Speaker 1: nothing and all that pressure and stresses off your shoulders, 967 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure he feels better than any of the coaches 968 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: in the league right now. It's like when Rob Bryan 969 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: got a phone call on the on a tropical beach 970 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: that he had been let go by the Cowboys. Like 971 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: right away, you run to the bar and just have 972 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: a great night and say I'm still so I get 973 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 1: to go on like unemployment on steroids for the next 974 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 1: two years. All right, spell you later, Um Patricia, Maron Schermer, 975 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: Are they all done? I don't think Maron's done. I 976 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: think for make they need to finish strong. Was That's 977 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: what I think. That's fair if they if they go 978 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: in the tank, maybe, but it seems like they're their 979 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,280 Speaker 1: owner liked the way he handled the Jalen Ramsey situation, 980 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 1: and maybe Tom Coughlin didn't handle it quite as and 981 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: losing Nick Foles and still being a viable team through 982 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: most of them. Yeah, I think it's the remaining what 983 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: is it seven games for them. It's gonna tell his story. 984 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: Where we are with Matt Patricia, I think it seemed 985 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: like a month ago people were impressed with him, and 986 00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,920 Speaker 1: now everybody's saying his he was hired to fix the 987 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 1: defense and the defense is terrible. It seems very up 988 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: and down. You're right in terms of how he's viewed. 989 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: But they did. I mean, remember they fired Jim Caldwell 990 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: after back to back nine and seven seasons. They go 991 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 1: six and ten last year and nobody seemed particularly impressed. 992 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: And then when this season kicked off, like West is saying, 993 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 1: people are saying, Wow, this team is making strides. The 994 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,520 Speaker 1: offense has certainly gotten better, and maybe they're buying into 995 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: the culture, the Patricia slash Belichick culture. But they have 996 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: one of the worst defenses in football and seemed to 997 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,880 Speaker 1: be heading towards six nine and one. After six and ten, Well, 998 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna come down with all these like who's doing 999 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: the firing and how much do they really want to 1000 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: change their entire organization? Like in Jacksonville, does he want 1001 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:02,319 Speaker 1: to fire Tom Coughlin and called well Anne Moron, which 1002 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: feels like the way that he would probably do it 1003 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: if it happened. That's a lot in Detroit does the 1004 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: Ford family. I don't know who's making the decisions, is Martha. 1005 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean she want to fire Bob Quinn who brought 1006 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: in Matt Patricia because Bob Quinn's not gonna be firing 1007 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and start over after just two years. I 1008 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: tend to think probably not unless things go really crazy bad, 1009 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: but that I want to see year three of Matt Patricia. 1010 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think invariably a lot of these guys 1011 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 1: get dumped before they even get to execute whatever plan 1012 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 1: they put into place and convinced an owner to get 1013 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 1: the job. And to begin with, the Lions have been 1014 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: more interesting this season than they have been in in 1015 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 1: my twenties, thirties or forties. That's fair if that year 1016 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,160 Speaker 1: that they should have beaten the Cowboys in the playoffs, 1017 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 1: they were, I know, and their record was better, but 1018 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,880 Speaker 1: for some reason they still registered to me as a 1019 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: raging dullard fest that for something, something about them this 1020 00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 1: time around got me interested. I raged is not new, 1021 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,400 Speaker 1: but no, I don't know how many more descriptions can 1022 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: you come up with for this team. Alright, Greg, close 1023 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: us out with a little little Rosenthal hot butt action. 1024 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: Let's see. I mean, i I've quit some jobs. I 1025 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: quit one on the you know, the first day, by phone, 1026 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,759 Speaker 1: which they quickly told me like, this is a small industry, 1027 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: this is not a smart move. That was a segment 1028 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,839 Speaker 1: producer job for uh an Action Sports show. And then 1029 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: I yeah, and I left the city six days later. 1030 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna think of another one. Yeah, I left 1031 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,600 Speaker 1: l A and yeah it took me fifteen years, ten 1032 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: years to come back before that guy was gone. In 1033 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,280 Speaker 1: In uh, the summer one year, I was a waiter 1034 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: um and you know, it's the end of the summer 1035 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: and people are starting to leave and party or whatever. 1036 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: And I guess I had maybe asked for some days 1037 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,920 Speaker 1: off and they were just like, yeah, you you know, 1038 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: we we need some extra shifts, Like you can't just 1039 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: take those days off at at the end of the summer. 1040 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 1: It was my last few days, you know, of the summer, 1041 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: and I just wanted to party, and I was just 1042 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 1: like no, which, okay, that would have been That would 1043 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 1: have been fine. I would have maybe not left in 1044 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,400 Speaker 1: the best terms. But I stupidly went with my friends 1045 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: to the deck at the restaurant to drink um on 1046 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: one of those days. In the manager there, uh chef 1047 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: A was not was not happy, and uh I started 1048 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: talking to me about it, and we just left and 1049 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: I'll never forget walking down like the plank of the 1050 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: restaurant and him yelling after me, just like that's really 1051 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 1: ef and cool. Greg, that's really off and cool, just 1052 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,120 Speaker 1: like screaming at me. And it didn't help that I 1053 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,439 Speaker 1: was also renting an apartment in the back of Chef's house. 1054 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 1: You played, uh you know, I had a roommate at 1055 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: the time, who I you know? I now do uh 1056 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: the podcast with Anthony. And immediately after leaving for the summer, 1057 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 1: I kept getting these calls from Chef a these long 1058 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: messages and he wanted his very expensive bottle of vodka 1059 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: back from his room. And I was like, we didn't 1060 00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: take any vodka, Like, we didn't touch it. Like I 1061 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: made Anthony just swear like we were staying in an 1062 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: attic rented base, like he kept hitting alcohol in the 1063 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,919 Speaker 1: I don't know. There was like, yeah, there was an 1064 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: us to the renter. Let's stay. There was one huge thing. 1065 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:18,360 Speaker 1: And I was just like he was like that was 1066 00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 1: a really expensive bottle, Greg and all this stuff. And 1067 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: I made Anthony swear to me he didn't take us. 1068 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't know, man, it was enough. 1069 00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: And then uh, a few weeks later, I realized, why 1070 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: did I believe Anthony? Of course he's stole that. Of course, 1071 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,759 Speaker 1: could you have done a worse job with chef A 1072 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: in general, I mean, you disgraced his business, You thieved 1073 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,960 Speaker 1: items out of his rent. Disrespectable as a man, that's 1074 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 1: what you did. And you weren't honorable. And I was 1075 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 1: a bad waiter too. I was in one of the 1076 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: worst sections. That was the twentieth percentile waiter. U. Al right, 1077 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,280 Speaker 1: well there you go. So if you've been fired before, 1078 00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: don't feel bad about it, because everybody's got a story. 1079 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:06,239 Speaker 1: Some reflect worse on themselves than others, like Greg's story. 1080 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:10,839 Speaker 1: I mean, chef A, please, did you ever Maybe that's 1081 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: something that would be one of those cool likes, you know, Yeah, 1082 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: call him back, call him back on the show, like reunite, 1083 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: like just give him a call. Hey, Like almost what 1084 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,360 Speaker 1: was that show? The movie with John Cusack Fidelity? Fidelity? 1085 00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 1: Just twenty years later, it's like, hey, I know I 1086 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,279 Speaker 1: wasn't right and I was in the wrong, and I 1087 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: mean Chef was not a popular character among basically every 1088 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: staff member there. And uh, I would imagine he has 1089 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: a side of this story though, that we would like 1090 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: to hear. Ricky, can we track down. Yeah, look at 1091 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: the fact that you went there to drink, Well, that 1092 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: was ridiculous. That was stupid. I was also like underage, 1093 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: Like there's a whole lot of breaking laws laws also, 1094 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 1: and also you can lose your liquor license if if 1095 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: you serve underage. So that would have destroyed Chepy's but 1096 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: he didn't own it. But yes, so why are their 1097 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: caveats to what to whether that would have been a 1098 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 1: good idea or good for chee? Thursday Night Football, Good sage, Ricky, 1099 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: Thanks that was fund Are you happy were your hot 1100 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 1: butt rankings then? And is it sort of giving you 1101 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of insight to what? Yeah? No, I think, Um, 1102 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,440 Speaker 1: it's I think it's a reminder of what makes following 1103 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: sports so fun. Things changed? Do you think you know everything? 1104 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: And then a lot changes? All right, let's get to it. 1105 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. The Cleveland Browns at home against the Steelers, 1106 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:44,320 Speaker 1: their last meeting, the first meeting this season and their 1107 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 1: first meeting and over a year. Uh, they played both 1108 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: their games early last year. So here are the Browns 1109 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: at three and six. They got the w against the Bills. 1110 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,440 Speaker 1: Mark Um watched that game yesterday. Not not a not 1111 00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: and you kind of alluded to the US on Sunday Show. 1112 00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: Not like a knock your socks offer for and rounds 1113 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: that makes you think they're ready to go on a surge, 1114 00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: and yet with the Steelers coming in, Uh, it's all there. 1115 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: The table is set for the Browns to get themselves 1116 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: back into the playoff race. Stewart die, Yes, it is. 1117 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: I mean I think every week we talked about it. 1118 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: Every Browns game from here on out is that way, 1119 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: and I it's a big challenge. I get that. I 1120 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: get that Pittsburgh's offense is, you know, probably mired in 1121 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 1: what will be a season long slump at this point 1122 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,080 Speaker 1: based on what's happened to the personnel, But it sounds 1123 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: like they might get James connerback. That's TBD at this point, 1124 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: but that would be that would help because their running 1125 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: game has been an absolute mess. The one the other 1126 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: sides who everyone wants to talk about. The Browns offense 1127 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: over and over in their defense has been acceptable, uh 1128 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,080 Speaker 1: for stretches. But one thing that bugs me about them, 1129 00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: because I felt like that Bills game could have used 1130 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: and I think the Steelers game could use it too, 1131 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: is something like we saw last night, like a home 1132 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: town pick six that flips the game on its butt 1133 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 1: and puts the Steelers into a hole versus setting their 1134 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,800 Speaker 1: pass rush up all night long. And the Browns have 1135 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: seven eight turnovers on the entire year and two since 1136 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,360 Speaker 1: Week four. They have not were last year. They were 1137 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 1: not a good football team, but they were a turnover 1138 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: machine under Greg Williams and it helped them in spots 1139 00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: and it certainly helped their offense. And they have gotten 1140 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: two turnovers since Week four. Is not done a lot 1141 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,800 Speaker 1: for a Baker Mayfield attack that outside of getting Kareem 1142 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 1: Hunt back at this point, I thought that he made 1143 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: a big difference in that last game. And I'm kind 1144 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,960 Speaker 1: of excited to see what they do with Nick Chubb 1145 00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: and cream Hunt together because I expected very little with 1146 00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 1: the way that they've found a way to not maximize 1147 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,240 Speaker 1: all their weapons. So there's a lot of questions for 1148 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: the Browns going into this and if they are suddenly 1149 00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,959 Speaker 1: down twenty three and Baker Mayfield has been sacked six 1150 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: times and they're talking about all the same stuff we've 1151 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: heard in every Browns game all year, lights out. Yeah, 1152 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: if you're the Browns without a offensive line, I think 1153 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: the Steelers front seven might be the last one you 1154 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: want to face right now. And the Steelers the next 1155 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: three weeks they have Brown's Bengals Browns, they could be 1156 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: marching through Ohio like like Sherman marching to Wow. Uh 1157 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: yeah that the Browns tackles, especially trying to stop I 1158 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 1: think the Browns, I mean, like last week Baker Mayfield 1159 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,200 Speaker 1: had great protection overall, and I think he's been okay 1160 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: most weeks, but yeah, matching up against t J. Watt 1161 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: and Duprie, especially on the right, is gonna be big 1162 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: time trouble. They played Chub and Hunt together. I think 1163 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,440 Speaker 1: you're right pointing that out. At what they did, thirty 1164 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: eight snaps for Hunting, fifty six for Chub out of 1165 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: sixty nine, so that means they were on the field 1166 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: for thirty snaps together, which you just do not see 1167 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And and Hunt did add a lot 1168 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: of jews. That's it was a great point to make 1169 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: about the defense mark because remember that it was kind 1170 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: of like the hipster take of like, hey, their offense 1171 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be great, uh, you know this year, But 1172 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 1: what could really dominate maybe the best group on that 1173 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: team is that defensive line. That could be the best 1174 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,200 Speaker 1: defensive line the league. Maybe I even said that, you know, 1175 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't even know hopefully not in that annoying voice. 1176 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,520 Speaker 1: But they haven't. They haven't taken over at all. Ogan 1177 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 1: job has been pretty quiet. Vernon has been hurt and 1178 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: has been pretty quiet. I guess he haven't. Have you 1179 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 1: watched their defensive line and thought, Okay, this this team 1180 01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,960 Speaker 1: is taken over like like Garrett and against good teams 1181 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: Garrett and Vernon against Denver, yes, but against like real teams. 1182 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I think you are selling that to some short That's fair. 1183 01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 1: Garrett's been great, Garrett's piling up sacks. But I guess 1184 01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,520 Speaker 1: what I'm missing this year is the one stable of 1185 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: better Brown's teams is you know, it gets cold now 1186 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: and you can put teams to bed with turnovers, with interceptions, 1187 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: and they have a good secondary. It's pretty deep. They've 1188 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: been injured up and down. But I don't know, I 1189 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 1: could steep. I just see Pittsburgh hanging around, if not 1190 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 1: outright taking this thing. Oh yeah, they mean the way 1191 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 1: they're defense, their defense is clearly the best group in 1192 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,480 Speaker 1: this game. I don't know at this point. Yeah, Dan, 1193 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,520 Speaker 1: do you want Maybe I'll throw this out there. I 1194 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: did think Mason Rudolph played his best game of the 1195 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,200 Speaker 1: season last week, which is maybe damning with fame praise, 1196 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,000 Speaker 1: but I think he's probably played his best two games 1197 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: in a row, incremental improving. Dan. I don't know if 1198 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: you wanted to throw out the question you did to 1199 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: us downstairs about West and and Mason Rudolph, or is 1200 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,479 Speaker 1: that not for public? I mean, now that you brought 1201 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 1: it up, I guess I should do it if West, 1202 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,320 Speaker 1: because we know West's problems with Mason Rudolph, and on 1203 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 1: last Thursday's podcast, West said he was gonna, you know, 1204 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,960 Speaker 1: have an open mind, and then on Sunday show you 1205 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 1: were even angrier with a young man over his play. 1206 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,240 Speaker 1: I I just threw out the idea if West would 1207 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: were to travel to Pittsburgh and do harm to Mason Rudolph, 1208 01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 1: how would Mark and Greg approach the support of West, 1209 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,480 Speaker 1: both internally, privately and then in public on the podcast. 1210 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Well you didn't just say harm, Well, I it was 1211 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,919 Speaker 1: a lent yeah, life ending harm, violent act, no life 1212 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: damaging in the hospital. I said that number one. I'd 1213 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: take that um that public stance of we need all 1214 01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: the facts, we need the information we need to know. 1215 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm not going to take a side here until the 1216 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 1: case is clear to us. But I also think that people. Uh, 1217 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's easy to be judge, and it's 1218 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,360 Speaker 1: easy just to look at what someone does and say, 1219 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,200 Speaker 1: well cased clothes, they're a good or bad person. West 1220 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: is a very multilayered individual, as all people are. But West, 1221 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, you can see if you just hang out 1222 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: there for a couple of hours, the many layers. I 1223 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,600 Speaker 1: am not gonna jump ship on West's friendship based on 1224 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,400 Speaker 1: you got that layer of velvet on right now, look 1225 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: at that repute. Oh yeah, I'm sticking by him. I'm 1226 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna have the research team or maybe our 1227 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:51,479 Speaker 1: video department make just like a reel of third down 1228 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,040 Speaker 1: throws by Mason Rudolph, just as a support, you know, 1229 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 1: say hey, what's this before you get before you come 1230 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: to a judgment, Let's watch these third eleven checkdowns. Privately, 1231 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: I would uh support West to the to the extent 1232 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: that I had helped find him the best lawyer money 1233 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 1: could buy. This guy's dirty. He'll dig up all this stuff. 1234 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: You need to find somebody gonna pay for it. I'm 1235 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna help and we'll do a go fund me. We'll 1236 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 1: do that again. We'll get it all going and we'll 1237 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 1: make sure West gets probation Max and we don't he 1238 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 1: misses very few shows. And then publicly I'd keep my distance. 1239 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,400 Speaker 1: It's just it would just be so toxic that I 1240 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,360 Speaker 1: feel like I would you have a wife, and I 1241 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: would reserve it. I would say no comment publicly and 1242 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,919 Speaker 1: just say it's a difficult situation for everybody right now, 1243 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: and I'd rather not say anything. But and then I'd 1244 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,560 Speaker 1: be working behind the scenes with you. This is this 1245 01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: is a fascinating topic, one which is you know, holy 1246 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: unreasonable and would never happen. First of all, first of all, 1247 01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 1: I'd be more likely to slip him some h G 1248 01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 1: H than to harm him. Let's let's let's get a 1249 01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:04,160 Speaker 1: better version of that makes you a better quarterback, of course, okay, 1250 01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean especially when you're asking out, when your tendency 1251 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,480 Speaker 1: is to back into or away from pressure, anytime you're 1252 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: about to throw H G H might help. Um. I 1253 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 1: liked this team and I enjoy watching them. So I 1254 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: want to see an improved Mason Rudolph, which you may 1255 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: say he's been I I don't think he's improved a 1256 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: little bit. I can can I just say I thought 1257 01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 1: maybe you were looking at my screen that while you 1258 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 1: guys were initially talking about this, I did one of 1259 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,920 Speaker 1: those A B tests and looked at the first six 1260 01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,680 Speaker 1: games for Mason Rudolph in the first six games for 1261 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, and they're statistically is not a big difference 1262 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 1: other than some downfield passing. That is that is damning 1263 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:49,840 Speaker 1: of football statistics. That is incredibly damn I'm here, I'm 1264 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: out here saying that the A B test he doesn't like. 1265 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 1: I don't know why you need to go after the Minshew. 1266 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, no, it's not a shot. He's not 1267 01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:03,440 Speaker 1: as bad as people, or certain persons, felonious persons perhaps 1268 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 1: are penning him out to Bay. If you watch Minshew 1269 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 1: real quick, I get hope watching Minshew, and he's exciting. 1270 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't feel the way about I think you using 1271 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: stats to try to compare Mason Rudolph the Gardner Minshew 1272 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 1: says more about you than it does masonber Rudolph. There's 1273 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: different numbers, though, and he's the advanced matrics. He certainly 1274 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 1: struggles PFF, which is more just you know grading him. 1275 01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: He's a bottom you know five quarterback, and Minshew is 1276 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,240 Speaker 1: right around average for starters they are not even between there. 1277 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: They should not even be mentioned in the same breath together. 1278 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 1: I know because Gardner Minshu's Steve Young. I keep forgetting this. 1279 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,320 Speaker 1: This guy sits on the bench on Sunday. What I 1280 01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: love is that there are crowd If there are multi 1281 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,080 Speaker 1: agendas happening here, this is absurdain. I mean, can we 1282 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,960 Speaker 1: calm down a little bit with the Gardner Minshew hero worship? 1283 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: Did you ask what he's going to say about him? 1284 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: He didn't play well. He did play with played really well. 1285 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: It was fine. And you know what, Mason Rudolph is 1286 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,480 Speaker 1: okay so far, not great, not the worst I think 1287 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 1: he's been. He's been a pretty big detriment when you 1288 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:14,720 Speaker 1: score eight points, you know, for your office. Like he's 1289 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,560 Speaker 1: been a party big detriment. I do think he's made 1290 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 1: some improvements as though, not seeming as frenetic and going 1291 01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: downfield and going through his reads a little bit and 1292 01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: not making big mistakes against the Rams, it was a 1293 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: little better. I think it was. It wasn't as tough 1294 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 1: to watch progress. All right, there you go, do you 1295 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,720 Speaker 1: you're locking the swea up mark? No. I feel like 1296 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:41,160 Speaker 1: I escaped West and I both escaped narrow issues there 1297 01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,320 Speaker 1: with the last Brown's luck. Are you guys gonna stay 1298 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: in lock step? I like that lock step? Where are 1299 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: you gonna watch it? Well, we're two and one, share three. 1300 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,280 Speaker 1: We're two and one at this point in my in 1301 01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: lock step. And you know, Mark was very nice. It 1302 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: was a very generous thing he did while I was 1303 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, my wings were clipped and I couldn't fly 1304 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,640 Speaker 1: out of the nest. He fed me and he kept 1305 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 1: me alive for a while. It might be time for 1306 01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,120 Speaker 1: me to fly out of that nest on my own. 1307 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I also led you to a hideous loss 1308 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,240 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, so learned about feeding you. But um, 1309 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,920 Speaker 1: all right. We will be back on Thursday with two shows. 1310 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 1: We have the preview of week eleven all the Sunday 1311 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:24,520 Speaker 1: and Monday game uh games. Also we will recap Browns 1312 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,800 Speaker 1: and Steelers late Thursday night. Who's got Who's on that game? 1313 01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,360 Speaker 1: Who's doing that game? It's it's gonna be West and Greg. Mark, 1314 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,479 Speaker 1: you doing that game too, I offered to if you could, Well, 1315 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: maybe you can't do it with the technology we're dealing with, 1316 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: but I could call in or something. But I don't 1317 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,720 Speaker 1: need to. I mean it's it's rare that you get 1318 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: to watch your team as a fan, so I wouldn't 1319 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: you know. Either way, we'll survive. I gotta get the dongle. 1320 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Gotta get that dongle. Oh, I got your dole, I 1321 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,120 Speaker 1: got I go for you right here, all right, people 1322 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: know what that means. Let's go no, and there will 1323 01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: be no further explanations. Stan had to signing out four 1324 01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,680 Speaker 1: Quiet Store and the Mailman, the old Boss Ricky at Hollywood, 1325 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: the idea generator behind the glass till Thursday m