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Speaker 1: We are taping Friday morning transactions or transactions that are

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Speaker 2: And I think that you see a lot of reports

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen it feels like dozens of quarterbacks connected

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Speaker 2: I think with the Kyler Murray stuff is so fascinating

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Speaker 1: Last two years in Arizona, he played twenty two games.

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Speaker 2: Wait one thing on Kyler. I just want to say,

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Speaker 1: Okay, we fully anticipate, though, by Monday at noon, that

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Speaker 2: couple more pieces to be added throughout free agency in

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're talking yourself into this.

435
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, I mean I can talk myself into

436
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Speaker 2: pretty much anything.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let me throw a couple other names out

438
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Speaker 1: there who are free agents, Let's start with Carson Wentz.

439
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Speaker 1: Great respect there between him and Frank Reich. We know

440
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Speaker 1: that they go back to their times together in Philadelphia

441
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Speaker 1: when Wentz was drafted. He becomes an MVP type player.

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Speaker 1: Then he gets hurt that second year, they going to

443
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles and they're able to win the Super Bowl

444
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Speaker 1: beating the Patriots. A nice job there, Eagles, but and

445
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Speaker 1: then they reunite again with the Colts as well. So

446
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Speaker 1: when you're looking at installing a system, obviously Carson Wentz

447
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Speaker 1: is not going to be your quarterback the next five years,

448
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Speaker 1: but it makes sense from the perspective of, hey, I'm

449
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Speaker 1: installing my system. Here's the guy who's been with me

450
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Speaker 1: at two different places. He knows what my expectation is,

451
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Speaker 1: and by extension, he can basically be a coach in

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Speaker 1: the room.

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Speaker 2: He can. I think the other thing to note is

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Speaker 2: when you take a look at Carson Wentz's stats from

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, when he started all seventeen games, it

456
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Speaker 2: was weird because I remember that people were saying, like,

457
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Speaker 2: Carson wasn't playing at a high level for Indianapolis. You

458
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Speaker 2: look at his numbers. He had twenty seven touchdowns and

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Speaker 2: seven interceptions, so pretty good ratio three five hundred and

460
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Speaker 2: sixty three passing yards. The Colts went nine to eight

461
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Speaker 2: that year, so it's just but the narrative was that

462
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Speaker 2: he did not play at a high level, and of

463
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Speaker 2: course the Colts then went in a different direction for

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Speaker 2: the next year. Now, I'm pretty sure they also ran

465
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Speaker 2: the rock pretty good with Jonathan Taylor. To your point,

466
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Speaker 2: what the Frank Reich DNA is, So if that's what

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Speaker 2: the Jets end up doing, yeah, I guess it makes

468
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Speaker 2: sense to your point because of the connection there. The

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Speaker 2: other thing to me is, I don't know if I

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Speaker 2: would I don't know if I'd be surprised if the

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Speaker 2: Jets decided to add two quarterbacks. I mean Tyrod Ish

472
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Speaker 2: and that was that was also reported. But whether it's

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Speaker 2: bring Tyrod back and add somebody like Carson Wentz or

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Speaker 2: any of the people that we've talked about, whether it's

475
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Speaker 2: add a different veteran and also or a different veteran

476
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Speaker 2: and also a guy like Carson or somebody else like there,

477
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Speaker 2: there's a lot of options.

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Speaker 1: Tyrod's a beloved guy in the locker room. He's such

479
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Speaker 1: a classy dude, and when he still gets in those games.

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Speaker 1: He's quite effective.

481
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Speaker 2: Now like the culture with the number two rushing offense

482
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Speaker 2: in the NFL that year with Carson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Jonathan Taylor, baby, Derek Carr, he's retired right now.

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Speaker 1: Have you seen this video of this? I did not

485
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Speaker 1: watch it. I mean, there's so much flood and social

486
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Speaker 1: media right now. Sometimes I gets lost in it and

487
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Speaker 1: other times I gotta shut it down. Man, I can't.

488
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Speaker 2: I can't consume it all. You know the video, Like

489
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Speaker 2: for those who haven't seen the video, there's a video

490
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Speaker 2: that's going around where Derek Carr basically is Derek and

491
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Speaker 2: David Carr talking about maybe the cars, the cars, about

492
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Speaker 2: who who's derek new team is going to be if

493
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Speaker 2: he comes out of retiring and then he wants to

494
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Speaker 2: play for a content and then and then they bleep

495
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Speaker 2: it out. Yeah, but okay, here's my thing with that.

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Speaker 1: He okay, so let's clarify this right now again Official

497
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Speaker 1: tests podcasts. He's retired right now. If he wants to

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Speaker 1: come back, the Saints own his rights, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: And so off of that, I know what he said

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Speaker 2: about playing for a contender. How many contenders are looking

501
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Speaker 2: for a quarterback? I don't know that answer.

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Speaker 1: You might be able to talk yourself into Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, that's true, right, you could. I

504
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Speaker 2: mean the other thing. And you know what, maybe from

505
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Speaker 2: Minnesota's perspective, that's the kind of guy I want to

506
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Speaker 2: add a veteran in the room to pair with a

507
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Speaker 2: guy like JJ. Maybe not. We're spitballing here. There's a

508
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Speaker 2: thing though. Let's say Derek Carr signs with or gets

509
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Speaker 2: traded to. I guess I should say another team that's

510
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Speaker 2: not a contender. I'm not even saying the chests. I'm

511
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Speaker 2: saying a different team. Let's say, Hey, the Arizona Cardinals

512
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Speaker 2: for example. Okay, and people are going to bring that

513
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Speaker 2: up and say you said you wanted to play for

514
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Speaker 2: a contender. He's gonna say, well, I believe in coach

515
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Speaker 2: Lafleur and everything that they're doing, so I believe we

516
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Speaker 2: can contend. We've seen this movie a thousand times. That's

517
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Speaker 2: going to be the narrative there. Unless unless I don't

518
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Speaker 2: know if Derek Carr would want to do this. What

519
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Speaker 2: do you think about him being a potential stop gap

520
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Speaker 2: until a hurt quarterback comes back to play in Indianapolis

521
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Speaker 2: Colts and Daniel Jones the Atlanta Falcons and Michael Pennox, Like,

522
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Speaker 2: could he be the guy to start the season starting

523
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Speaker 2: pitcher and then they bring in the reliever to close

524
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Speaker 2: out the rest of the year. Probably not, but it's

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Speaker 2: a possibility.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a little bit older. I'm just wondering if

527
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Speaker 1: when you're a quarterback who's played that amount of time

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Speaker 1: and you take a year of off, how difficult it

529
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Speaker 1: is to get back in and play at a high level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the scary thing would be what if,

531
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Speaker 2: for whatever team, what if you trade for Derek Carr.

532
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Speaker 2: He's ready to go. He gets a lick in joint

533
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Speaker 2: practice and he's like, I'm done. I'm done, Like I

534
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Speaker 2: can't do it. I just can't do.

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Speaker 1: It, man Ol Rhodes. A lot of these roads are

536
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Speaker 1: going to Louisiana too, because the name that we were

537
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Speaker 1: told multiple times by a few NFL insiders there in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: The combine was, Hey, maybe teams will be looking at

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Speaker 1: Spencer Rattler and make a pitch to the Saints as

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Speaker 1: far as the trade is concerned, because they look like

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Speaker 1: they found their quarterback last year in the second round

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Speaker 1: of Tyler shuck.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that Rattler is another guy who he'd

544
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Speaker 2: be taking a flyer on. I mean he's Malik Willis

545
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Speaker 2: light right, like much lighter where maybe you've seen some flashes.

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Speaker 2: You want to take a flyer on a guy like that,

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Speaker 2: go for it. I mean, the contract is not going

548
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Speaker 2: to hurt any team that trades for And I'm not

549
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Speaker 2: saying that he's going to be this great player, but

550
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Speaker 2: if you want to throw a dart, go for it.

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Speaker 1: And then Daniel Jeremiah on a conference call and then

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Speaker 1: we actually talked to him in Indy two. He mentioned

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Speaker 1: a couple of veteran names, young Vets McKee out of

554
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia who's played really well in the preseason but apparently

555
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Speaker 1: the Eagles love him. And then also Davis Mills, who

556
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Speaker 1: got in some good time last year with the Texans

557
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Speaker 1: when CJ. Stroud was hurt, and I thought he performed

558
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Speaker 1: very well. But I don't know if those teams who

559
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Speaker 1: are playoff teams, and you're talking about Philadelphia, who is

560
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Speaker 1: a super Bowl caliber team, and I know the Texans

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Speaker 1: have a super Bowl caliber defense, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: to really be willing to Yeah, I agree with that,

563
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Speaker 1: you know, because the backup quarterback is so important. And

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Speaker 1: another guy was mentioned early on in an offseason I thought,

565
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Speaker 1: because he played so well last year as a guy

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Speaker 1: who started his career with the Patriots. Of course, Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: But the forty nine ers have been clear about it

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Speaker 1: that we're not trading them.

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Speaker 2: To me. Specifically, with Mills and Jones, you've seen them

570
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Speaker 2: perform and win games for their teams. McKee's a little different.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is healthy. McKee's like kind of a little

572
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Speaker 2: bit more unknown, I would say, but you're right, everything

573
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Speaker 2: seems to be. The Eagles love Tanner McKey, but also

574
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Speaker 2: from a business perspective, the market for Tanner Key being

575
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Speaker 2: this enigma is probably higher than it might ever be.

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Speaker 2: The other two names that come to mind that we

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Speaker 2: haven't really discussed. I mean, you were talking about former Patriots.

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Speaker 2: How about Jared Stidham from Denver.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad I was going to go there.

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Speaker 2: I got to me, I don't know Mugie was in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he would know. Yeah, right, So he was there

582
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Speaker 1: every day and.

583
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Speaker 2: He could reunite with Bailey's appy here with the Jets

584
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Speaker 2: because he was signed a reserve feature.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, how my quarterbacks and jestsin McCarry and once we

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Speaker 1: get to September.

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Speaker 2: I know I had another name too, and I just

588
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Speaker 2: totally believe it.

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Speaker 1: The other guy that we haven't mentioned. We go back

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Speaker 1: to Arizona's Jakobe Brissette. Yeah, of course, oh.

591
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say Will Levis that I was gonna go, oh.

592
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, former first round pick himself. But Brissett people

593
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Speaker 1: have circled him because Frank Reich again in Indianapolis, work

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Speaker 1: with Pressett and he's one of those guys that every

595
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Speaker 1: time teams are looking for a backup quarterback, Brissett goes

596
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Speaker 1: towards the top of the list. But you mentioned a

597
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: very good point that I thought is valid as well.

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Speaker 1: Jets might go into a situation next year where we

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Speaker 1: have two veteran quarterbacks, So like what the Giants did, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: sign Russell, Jamis Russell and then the draft be a

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Speaker 1: drafting guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, granted. One of the things that it

603
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Speaker 2: seems to be the great debate. I know there's a

604
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Speaker 2: free agency podcast, but you know they kind of it's

605
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Speaker 2: like it's like the front, it's like the pass rush

606
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Speaker 2: and the secondary. They one helps the other they go

607
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Speaker 2: hand in hand free agency in the draft. I don't

608
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Speaker 2: know if the Jets are gonna draft a guy this year.

609
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Speaker 2: No one does, obviously, but given the landscape of the

610
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Speaker 2: quarterback position next year, it sure seems like everyone we

611
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Speaker 2: spoke to an Indie and heard from doesn't anticipate the

612
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: Jets going quarterback early in the draft. Things could change.

613
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Speaker 2: Things can change in the stop of a hat or

614
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Speaker 2: the drop of a dime. But it sure seems like

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Speaker 2: everyone kind of says, all right, we'll see what happens

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Speaker 2: next year with the Jets in their quarterback for the

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Speaker 2: long term.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And things can change as far as draftical classes

619
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Speaker 1: are concerned, because last year, at this time we're talking

620
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Speaker 1: about how this could be a special quarterback class, and

621
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Speaker 1: now people are saying that Mendoza goes one, and who

622
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Speaker 1: knows if there's going to be another quarterback taken in

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Speaker 1: the first round. With that being said, I think Mouge

624
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Speaker 1: and the personnel staff have to look at this and

625
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Speaker 1: they are you gotta look at the whole picture. And

626
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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about twenty seven. I'm talking about the draft.

627
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Speaker 1: What happened in combine. How are they viewing some of

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Speaker 1: these guys beyond Mendoza, the Ty Simpsons of the world,

629
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Speaker 1: the nus Meyers of the world, the drew Ellers of

630
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Speaker 1: the world, the Cole Payton's of the world, those projects

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Speaker 1: and things like that, because ultimately veteran, but then there's

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Speaker 1: a younger dynamic too that ultimately I would imagine the

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Speaker 1: Jet's going to get a young guy in here as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but if it is, it could be again one of

635
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Speaker 1: those younger vets, you know. But I think for me,

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Speaker 1: when I'm looking at the league year, don't you view

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Speaker 1: this as the dominos dominoes are going to start with

638
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Speaker 1: Murray and Willis?

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00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so unless one of those guys. Well,

640
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Speaker 2: the other domino that we really haven't discussed is Kirk Cousins,

641
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Speaker 2: because there were a bunch of reports that said that

642
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Speaker 2: that made it sound like the Jets and Kirk Cousins

643
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: would not entertain a potential marriage and free agency Cousins

644
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Speaker 2: will it well, actually, Cousins I think is expected to

645
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: be released at the start of the new league year too.

646
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Speaker 2: So Willis is really the only domino that can fall

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Speaker 2: between money Day and Wednesday that comes to mind. A

648
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: lot of these other guys like if Gino gets cut,

649
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 2: if Kyler gets well, when Kyler gets cut to we'll

650
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: see what happens with Prissette. I guess right now, he

651
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: sure seems like he's going to be a cardinal for now.

652
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: All these guys can't become free agents until four pm Wednesday,

653
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: March eleventh, So yeah, we'll see what happens with Willis early.

654
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a positive or negative for

655
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: Elik Willis in terms of negotiating, because he kind of

656
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: has first dibbs. But it'll be interesting. But you're right,

657
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 2: those are the dominoes that fall, And to me, this

658
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 2: is what makes the NFL, and specifically free agency so

659
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: much fun because everyone will have opinions on what their

660
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: teams should do, how they should approach free agency, and

661
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: we'll see the approach pretty pretty soon. You know where

662
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: it's Friday, Monday at noon. This is not quarterback related,

663
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: but we'll see like what direction the Jets want to go,

664
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: what types of players the Jets want to add to

665
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: their defense, which seemingly is now more more of a

666
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: three to four than a four to three. There's like

667
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: a lot of questions that will be answered through action.

668
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: All right, so we got to get to about five

669
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: or six things, kind of more rapid fire style, and

670
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 1: let's go here transactions late this week, where the Jets

671
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: resigned tight on Jelani Woods, they also exercised their exclusive

672
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: rights tender on a pair of players, Juwan Briggs and

673
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: Marcelino McCrary ball. McCarry ball only played five games last year,

674
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: limited with the hamstring injury, but he's voted special teams captain.

675
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: Prior to the season. We saw Briggs come over great

676
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: trade from these guys and he really broke out. He's

677
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: going to be part of that defensive tackle rotation. The

678
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: other thing that I think you can take out of

679
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: this is that one exclusive guy who wasn't tendered was

680
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: John Matchi, So that means he's going to become a

681
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: free agent.

682
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I don't know if people were surprised

683
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: by that because the Jets acquired him via trade, but yeah,

684
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: I think that a lot of people were expecting the

685
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 2: Jets to add a receiver or two anyway, and whether

686
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 2: John Metchi was tendered or not, I feel like the

687
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: Jets would have added a couple of receivers anyway. And

688
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying top dollar in free agency, like Alex

689
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: Pierce out of Indianapolis. But you know, I think that

690
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be surprising draft or you know, next week

691
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: if we start seeing some names, especially depth guys, just

692
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: to fill out the room. And you mentioned I was

693
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: just gonna say, can I throw out one name that

694
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: would be fun? I'm not saying this makes sense at all.

695
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: I'm just saying it would be fun. It would compliment

696
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson pretty well Mike Evans. I don't think it's like,

697
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's gonna happen. I'm just saying, wouldn't

698
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: that be fun?

699
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: Though?

700
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be fun if you get like the six

701
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: to five all pro. I know he's at the the

702
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: end or the end of his career Evans much. I'm

703
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: not saying Mike Evans wants to be a Jet. Of

704
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: the Jets want Mike Evan. But all I'm saying is,

705
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: isn't that the type of receiver that you would imagine

706
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: would pair gameplay wise excellent with a guy like Garrett Wilson.

707
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: A big X receiver who's going to be a Hall

708
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: of Famer. Yeah, I'd say that would be same.

709
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, But even if he wasn't the Accolade take the

710
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Accolades away? Just style of play. Don't you think that's

711
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 2: that would compliment Garrett? Well, like, that's why. That's why

712
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: it feels like AG was a big fan of Adai

713
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: Mitchell when the Jets t.

714
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: Is he definitely leaving Tampa by the way, No.

715
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: He's not, But I don't think he. I don't think

716
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: it's definite. I definitely don't think that the I'm very sentimental.

717
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: I think Mike Evans should his career in Tampa. Yeah,

718
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: that's kind of a way I feel.

719
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Like I would love to see

720
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: Mike Evans be a Buck for life as much as

721
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: I would love him to be like a Jet at

722
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: the end of his career.

723
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would.

724
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: Be nice to see Mike Evans, especially because that just

725
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 2: doesn't happen in sports very much anymore.

726
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: All Right, I really threw you.

727
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: For a look there.

728
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: To coming over six four, three hundred and sixty plus.

729
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Watched his forty a couple of years ago coming out

730
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: of Texas. Guy's a space eater. He's going to free

731
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: up some space for those linebackers come and clean up,

732
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Jermaine Johnson goes to Tennessee Green

733
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: Knights with Robert Salah. We know that Sala wants guys

734
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: getting up the field and penetrating, and Jermaine played really

735
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: well for him. He came back from the Achilles last year.

736
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: I think he's just going to continue to get better.

737
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: I think this is one of those trains where it's

738
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: it's a win win for both teams. Makes a lot

739
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: of sense.

740
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And it makes sense for the Jets financially.

741
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: Jermaine was going into a contract year. They essentially net

742
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: even with Jermaine salary going to Tennessee once that becomes official,

743
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: and then franchise tagging Priest, right, you know, if Priest

744
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: were to sign the tender as opposed to an extension,

745
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 2: but regardless, that breaks about even The Jets get a

746
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: player in dem Andre Sweat who, to your point, has

747
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: all the tools you need to be a very effective

748
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: and very good defensive tackle, and he showed it on

749
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: tape and he's nimble for a guy who's three hundred

750
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: and sixty plus pounds. I know I made the comparison,

751
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: you know, briefly yesterday, but you know, I'm not saying

752
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 2: he's gonna have the Chris Jenkins effect that Chris Jenkins

753
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: had in two thousand and nine. Yeah, but physically they

754
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: are very similar.

755
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: So probably a better Ricky year than a sophomore season.

756
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: But that doesn't still Andre.

757
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't scare me away at all. In

758
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: fact that I'm really encouraged about what the Jets have

759
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: on the tier now because then we're going to enter

760
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: free agency with some questions. But you know they could

761
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: still add Yeah you could, but but you like that

762
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 1: three right now. You got that big veteran presence in

763
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, and we mentioned Briggs before. He's not going

764
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: anywhere and he broke out last year and he figures

765
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: to only get better now with Jermaine Gone. Know, what

766
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: does the edge look like opposite Will McDonald And you know,

767
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna have plenty of time to talk about the draft, but.

768
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: Maybe you add a couple guys in free agency.

769
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, there we go. So let's let's stay right there.

770
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: Let's go on to the front side of the ball

771
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: and then, huh, you mentioned linebackers before, but I want

772
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: to get to Edges first. A guy who had a

773
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: big season last year for the Lions. El Qwadine Mohammad.

774
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about last season. I think eleven

775
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: sacks and twenty quarterback hits. Yeah, that jumps out at me.

776
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 2: It does. And also considering the Aaron Glenn Lyons connection,

777
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are going to be

778
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: doing that. I know we're gonna talk about linebackers, but

779
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, Alex Angeloni, could he be especially because

780
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: they worked together in New Orleans and then Detroit, You're like,

781
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: maybe they just want to add a linebacker. Quincy Williams

782
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: said to hit the market. That seems to make a

783
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 2: lot of sense. But there was a report today that

784
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: Angeloni's gonna have a big market, So wow, So maybe

785
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: maybe it's not.

786
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: Maybe that's where relationships come to play.

787
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: I exactly, it goes both ways. The other the other

788
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: guy that was in Detroit for a cup of coffee

789
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: with AG was Marcus Davenport. Yes and so and Marcus

790
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: Davenport's former first round pick fourteenth overall. They also overlapped

791
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: in New Orleans and so I don't think.

792
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: But I am looking for familiarity here. Why while you

793
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: look at a couple of stats and.

794
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,720
Speaker 2: Well, his best season was twenty one with nine sacks.

795
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: But other than that, you know, not not a ton

796
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 2: of production. He's battled injuries a decent amount.

797
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: So I go back to consider I go back to

798
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: on nine when Rex came here and he signed Bart

799
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Scott and Jimmy Leonard and those guys were going to

800
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: help him install his defense. This is AG's defense. So

801
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: this is different than last year where he took the

802
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: CEO approach. He determined during that coaching process that's been

803
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: well documented that hey man, I missed it, I missed

804
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: calm plays. So this is gonna be Aaron Glenn's defense.

805
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: So I think when you're looking at AG's defense, I'm

806
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: looking at some guys who've played for Aaron before, know

807
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: the standard, no, the terminology. It's the same thing for

808
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: Brian Duker, the new Jets defensive coordinator as well, because

809
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: those guys get the familiarity too. But you can look

810
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: at Duker and say, hey, maybe there's a dolphin or

811
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: two in there.

812
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: One guy that that fits both bills there in terms

813
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: of played for a G and Detroit played with Duker

814
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 2: in Miami is a safety fat tu melon Fano And

815
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's gonna be a starter for the

816
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 2: Jets if you were signed here. But he does check

817
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: both boxes.

818
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: Jets definitely gonna mean a market for safety.

819
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: You know, Davis is an interesting name considering he played

820
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: under Duker last year. I'm not saying again that that

821
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 2: makes that's what the Jets are gonna do, just interesting

822
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,280
Speaker 2: when you take a look at the Dolphins free agents.

823
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: I did see a report that, like last week, there

824
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: were reports that maybe the Jets would explore a trade

825
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 2: for Minca with Miami. I don't know why, I seen

826
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: it a couple of times, Yeah, but I guess look,

827
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: if yeah, and if you're starting over, maybe you're looking

828
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: to get rid of someone who has a decent price tag.

829
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: But he's also a good player, and the Indivision trade

830
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: is always a little bit of an eyebrow raise. Although

831
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: it's not like Minca plays quarterback receiver and or something

832
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: like that. But he'd be obviously a very welcome edition,

833
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: I would imagine to the Jets.

834
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a circle safety position overall, right, because.

835
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: Big market too, like a good market.

836
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Andre Cisco expiring contract, Tony Adams expiring contract. I

837
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: mean you're gonna see change there for the Green and

838
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: White next season, and you said big market. I know

839
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: Curl actually before we came into the studio today he

840
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 1: resigned with deal a Rams, so he is not going anywhere, correct.

841
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: That is correct, And you know someone who I don't

842
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: know that there are a lot of good options. Like

843
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: Here's free agency is interesting because I feel like a

844
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: lot of teams will try to get someone that's had

845
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: like a decent first contract, like in terms of how

846
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: they've played, and you try to get someone on the upswing.

847
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: I think actually a great Jets example of that in

848
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 2: recent years is DJ Reid, where you know, he kind

849
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 2: of found his way in the NFL a little bit

850
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: with San Francisco and Den Seattle, and then he comes

851
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: to the Jets and he establishes himself to another level.

852
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Then he goes and gets another payday with Detroit last year.

853
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: So to me, like that kind of seems to be

854
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 2: what teams in the NFL want to do. If you're

855
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: looking for something like that at safety, you're probably looking

856
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: at Nick Cross is a popular name. Kobe Bryant the

857
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 2: out of them. I'm not going to be able to

858
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: keep everybody exactly. And another name that I don't think

859
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: anyone's really talking about. Well, one more name about that

860
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: is Jakwan Brisker out of the Bears. But someone that

861
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't feel like has been talked about. I don't

862
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: really know how he played this past year compared to

863
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: previous year is Red blanken Ship out of with the Eagles,

864
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 2: and he was a captain this year. He's a pretty

865
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: big piece. You know, obviously he won the Super Bowl

866
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: there two years ago. And then if you go older,

867
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: what about a guy like Kevin Bayard who has a

868
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 2: knack for taking the football away? At least he did

869
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: with the Tennessee Titans a long time ago. But I

870
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: know this is twenty seventeen, but he led the league

871
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: with eight picks that year. And that's a guy that

872
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: has experienced.

873
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Let's flipping the offense side of the ball. For the Jets,

874
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: they got a decision to make at the guard position.

875
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: We know that Elijah vera tucker who is such a

876
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: good dude, and you can put John Simpson in that

877
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: class as well. Both of those guys have expiring contracts.

878
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: Last year the Jets had the great fortune and also

879
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: you got to give everybody up front a ton of

880
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: respect for starting each each of those seventeen games from

881
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: left to right last season. Unfortunately, Avt wasn't part of that.

882
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: Simpson was. Now, if those guys find new homes, the

883
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 1: Jets will be looking to fill that spot at the

884
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: left guard spot. Also, you mentioned receiver before. We're going

885
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: to have to see how this all plays out. Pierce

886
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: was a natural connect there with the Jets because of

887
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: the Frank Reich relationship. I've seen some big numbers as

888
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: far as anticipation is concerned what Pierce is going to

889
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: get on the market, which is interesting because he's a

890
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: vertical threat down the field, kind of guy Greens. But

891
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: he also has not had more than let's say, fifty

892
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: or fifty five catches in any one season in his career.

893
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: That's not a knock on him. I just find it

894
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: interesting how big the market potentially could be. A Couple

895
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: of these other receivers that who are going to be

896
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: out there include Romeo Dobbs from the Packers, Wendell Robinson

897
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: from the Giants, of course, and then you mentioned up

898
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: front getting back to the guard position. Another Detroit guy,

899
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: Graham Glasgow as well.

900
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 2: How you feel about Mike Evans staying with the Bucks

901
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 2: is how I feel about AVT and the Jets like

902
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 2: I would love to see AVT fulfill his potential with

903
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: the team that drafted him. He's such a good dude.

904
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: He's such a good player when healthy, and we saw

905
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: last year that he was voted captain soon or and

906
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 2: then shortly thereafter had the season ending injury in practice.

907
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: So your point, when we watched those guys together, and

908
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: I think the Jets have a wonderfully talented offensive line,

909
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,479
Speaker 1: but when you watch those guys together early on last year,

910
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: he took in practice every day. He said. The best

911
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: lineman the Jets have is Elijah Veritas.

912
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 2: He's a brick wall and he is strong as hell.

913
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 2: And I would love to see him back with the Jets.

914
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: I would, And you know, but I understand that in

915
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: the NFL, maybe a change of scenery is what's best,

916
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 2: especially if you're dealing with injuries. Maybe you just feel

917
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: like you gotta start over somewhere. See what happens with that.

918
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: You know, if that is the case and the Jets

919
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: go in a different direction. To your point, I did

920
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: mention Glasgow because of the Lions thing. I'm not again,

921
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: this is not maybe realistic, but I'm looking at maybe

922
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about you might think this is unfair. How

923
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: old was Alan fanica ish when he signed? He was

924
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 2: like in his thirties, right, So, the Browns left guard

925
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: Joe botonio Is has been their left guard for twelve years.

926
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: If the Jets want to add an older player to

927
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: their offensive line with young players, maybe it's a guy

928
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: like that that would be fun. And you know, actually

929
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: the Browns do have a lot of offensive line free

930
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: agency were I don't know if you're about to say,

931
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: why tell her I was going? So he's played right

932
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: guard for the Browns for his career. Obviously, Joe Tipman

933
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: played right guard last year. I don't know if Taylor

934
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: would flip. But all I'm saying is that there are

935
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 2: options to be had out there free agency, and maybe

936
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 2: there's a guy that the Jets add, you know, not

937
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 2: name wise, but when the Jets signed Josh Myers last year,

938
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: I think that we all thought it was with the

939
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: intent to like maybe start if needed, and then obviously

940
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: he was needed. Maybe that's what the Jets do in

941
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: free agency, where they sign a guy that you're like,

942
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 2: you have position flexibility, We're gonna sly you in now

943
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: and maybe we'll add another player in the draft and

944
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: we'll see what happens.

945
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: The Jets had pieces in on offense, I know the

946
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: way it looked at that in the last season. But again,

947
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: it all starts up front. People throughout the National Football

948
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: League really liked this offense line. You got backfield pieces

949
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: in place. You have a star receiver. Remember, Garrett Wilson

950
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: is one of five receivers in NFL history to start

951
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: his career with eighty plus receptions and one thousand yards

952
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: receiving in each of the first three years. He's gonna

953
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: come back with a vengeance. Interesting tight n room led

954
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: by Mason Taylor, who was productive last season. I think

955
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: he can built off of that. You got Jeremy Rocker

956
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: kind of a jack of all trades EDA, and I

957
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: Mitchell is still here, young receiver himself. You know, again,

958
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: this draft class has a lot of depth receiver spot.

959
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: So that might go on your thinking and free agency,

960
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: not just for the Jets but for everybody, because you

961
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: got to look at it and say, well, I can

962
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: sign this guy for this amount of money, or maybe

963
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: I can get this kind of talent in the second

964
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: round for this amount of money. But again, the Jets

965
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: enter all this in a favorable situation from a financial

966
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: flexibility perspective, But it all goes back to where quarterback

967
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: always I will say one more thing on the old

968
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: line that goes maybe, I don't want to say overlooked.

969
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: Jets are going to need a back of tackle. You know,

970
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: they have two great starting tackles with fashion U and Membu.

971
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: Max Mitchell said to hit free agency, like, whether it's

972
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: resigning a guy like.

973
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 1: That or swing that's a key position.

974
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's something to keep in mind. And you know,

975
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Jets would want to rely

976
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: on that player to be in the draft, you know,

977
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: like I think the veteran option might be might be

978
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: the move there. And I'm almost positive that chooks a

979
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: Korra four is also a free agent. So whether it's

980
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: one of those guys or somebody else, I think that

981
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 2: you know, a veteran swing tackles of of need.

982
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be fun. It's eleven o'clock Friday morning.

983
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: By eleven o'clock next Friday morning will be two days

984
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: deep in free agency, but really four days because that

985
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: negotiation window for most of these guys that we've talked

986
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: about throughout the past hour. That opens on Monday, and

987
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: we might know what the Jets quarterback picture looks a lot.

988
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's probably gonna come into focus a lot

989
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: clearer for us by next Friday at this time.

990
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 2: And hopefully not by the time that this podcast airs,

991
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: because you always run the risk of that. I mean,

992
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna check my phone and make sure that

993
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: nothing happened like the Dj Moore trade, you know, like, yes.

994
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: The other thing. Yeah, there are shockwaves throughout the league

995
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: to your point, because we get out the trade front

996
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: is anticipated to be more active, and especially from the quarterbacks.

997
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't ever remember an offseason when we talked about

998
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 1: so many quarterbacks that are currently on other rosters that

999
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: a might spring free, but b might be available in trade,

1000
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: and see people are expecting them to be on the

1001
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: move in a trade.

1002
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so much going around right now, I think

1003
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 2: in terms of the trade stuff like all eyes on

1004
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 2: the NFL circle around aj Brown, Max Crosby. In terms

1005
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: of trade now, I'm not saying for the Jets, but

1006
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: there could be big trades that come to fruition in

1007
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 2: the next couple of days which won't be official until

1008
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: Wednesday at four pm. Marsh eleventh.

1009
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but stay tuned with us Monday starting at noon,

1010
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: because I think you're gonna be hearing a lot of action.

1011
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: We talked to Ian Rapaport about it in Indianapolis. He said,

1012
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: maybe the right approach for the Jets is to get

1013
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: in into those mid level ranges with several free agentcies

1014
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,439
Speaker 1: as opposed to making three four splashy most.

1015
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: I agree. I'm excited to see how it plays out.

1016
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: Linebacker also has some good options. I know we only

1017
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: talked about aws. Well.

1018
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: The other thing is it's all connected because the linebacker

1019
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: class in the draft. Everybody's raving about it. Yeah so yeah,

1020
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: so cost certainty upside.

1021
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 2: This is what makes it fun because we can speculate

1022
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 2: all we want, but we're gonna see little We're gonna

1023
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: get little tidbits, maybe about how Darren Mougi, Aaron glennon

1024
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: the Jets want to operate starting a free agency into

1025
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 2: the draft, do they work hand in hand. We can

1026
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 2: speculate all we want, we're gonna get answers.

1027
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the linebacker spot. Listen, if the Jets

1028
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: go to Arvel Reese, they could use him off ball

1029
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: and an edge. I know. We talked to a couple

1030
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: of draft experts who said, watch out for sunny styles.

1031
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, there's so much to get to. We're

1032
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: signing off though,