WEBVTT - REPLAY: WEEZY WTF - Gourmet Mac N Cheese 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.360 Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke. 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.080 I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:13.520 very special TV host, entrepreneur podcaster that Beach exactly very 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.239 special guests I do. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:17.160 We just have to end up bleeping them out for sol. 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.239 Do you believe about your social No? 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:20.759 Sorry, well I heard it. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:22.280 It messes with the algorithms. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:23.759 Oh that's probably true. 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:43.920 Maybe that's why we haven't. 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.960 Weezy is from Horrible Decisions. She also has a TV 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.040 show called Sex Cells, and she. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:57.040 Is an entrepreneur. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.520 She owns podcast recording studios in New York. And am 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:01.440 I missing a market? 0:01:01.920 --> 0:01:04.400 Not yet? If you recorded me in two months, you would. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:09.480 Be okay hopefully, Alana and I real know, okay, okay, 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:13.280 but I'm really excited to have Weezy. I met you 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.680 probably over a year ago and literally like, I just 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:20.240 I love everything you're about and I plan to take notes. 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:23.360 Oh okay, but what do you have us eating as 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:24.559 your broke dish today? 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:28.800 Well, my broke dish today is gourmet maca cheese because 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.120 I feel like, well, gourmet meat and macajeese because I 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.480 don't like to say hot dogs. It sounds cheap and 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:37.760 the meal is cheap. But like when broke, I was like, 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.240 I need to feel full fast, and I always thought 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.360 that was like a protein and carbs, and so hot 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.319 dogs and macaroni and cheese like the easiest thing, even 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:48.720 though by itself, I feel like it tastes like shit. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.600 So I just tried to dress it up what I had. Yeah, 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:52.040 I saw that. 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.280 I saw these extra ingredients, and I didn't know which 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.120 direction your meal was going. So for our listeners, can 0:01:58.160 --> 0:01:58.960 you say what. 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.840 Is in the gourmet meg cheese? 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.800 So I'm gonna be real with you. Allive oil is 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:06.440 very expensive when your rope like this is what eight 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.960 dollars for this? Maybe ten? Probably? Yeah, So I would 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:15.800 use criscal but virgin olive oil. Lorry I don't know 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.200 how to say his name, but Tony. 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:20.720 Shiericus, I just call it Tony seasoning, Tony creole. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.720 So we have the mixing bowls. I don't know why. 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.880 Oh I thought you were gonna drain the mac and 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:27.760 cheese water. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.359 Oh yeah, I didn't even have a bad I didn't 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.119 have a what's it called. I would take the top 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.720 pour it out. 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.200 Okay, we usually do that on the show. By the way, 0:02:37.880 --> 0:02:39.000 this is just a fruit strainer. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:40.720 But go on, what's the ingredients. 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:44.560 I like Nathan's. I'm not sure why. Hebrew National wasn't 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:47.440 my thing, but Nathan's was like the skinny ones. Like Nathan's, 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.200 We've got the cutting board of the knife so that 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:54.720 you could slice up the hot dogs, onions, butter, and milk. Awesome. 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:58.799 Now it's funny because I've done mac and cheese before. 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.960 In my greatest accomplishment was adding tuna to the mac 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:08.919 and cheese. Okay, but I am excited because there's so much. 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.560 Don't go together. So I think it's loster mac and 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:12.520 cheese and that's it. 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:14.400 Hey, I was broke. I didn't. I don't even know. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:16.000 You. 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.480 But but no, I'm excited because this is my first 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:23.160 time ever in the history of living on this earth, 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:24.959 having gourmet mac and cheese. 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:26.760 And it's really cool. 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.480 You know what I actually put in my grame? 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:30.520 Look you getting all hyped into it? 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:34.040 What what? Okay? Now that I'm getting money when I 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.120 make gromet mac and cheese for overall, I put like 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.960 five different type of cheeses in it, and I put 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:41.839 a little bit of beer whenever I Yes, I can't 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.960 remember where I learned about the beer from but it's 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.920 something about the yeast and the beer. Oh my god, 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:48.960 you can taste it. It's so good. Beer costs extra money, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:50.360 so I felt like I shouldn't added that. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.880 No, no, but that's your But you now that you 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.520 make money, you actually do to. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.080 A still a twist the gourmet maga cheer. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:04.440 Oh yeah, you're hilarious. My mom hates it. She's like, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.080 this is so ridiculous because every Thanksgiving we have hers, 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.480 which is classic bag mac burn at the top, and 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:10.800 then mine is the bougie back. 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.440 And you're mixed, right, So is your mom black? 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.560 My mom is black and my dad's is really okay, 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.280 maybe it should be Hebrew national. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:19.760 You're hilarious. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.680 My dad is Jewish and my mom is Jamaican. So 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.640 I have the same black and white mix because I 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.839 never ever meet it where the mom is black and 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.159 the dad is white. Whenever I see someone like that, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.600 I'm like, hey, that's crazy, all right. 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:34.960 You always see the other PEO was like. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.640 You're like black and Jewish. You're like Drake. 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.160 Well, it used to be Lenny was the big thing 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:41.840 back in the day. 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.039 People don't know nothing, you not these young kids. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:46.440 But all right, weezy. 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.720 So I am dying to try this gourmet mac so 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:50.599 come away. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:51.560 It's not gonna be good. 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:52.560 Why you say that? 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.680 Because think about the stuff we eat today. I mean, 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.320 you eat shitty meals all the time. 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.520 With Oh let me tell you. I'm getting to the 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:02.560 point where I'm gonna start rating it. And I've been 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:06.800 because I've been pretty nice. Someone made tuna castrole. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:08.880 It's gonna get me caught up. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:13.960 But this it was literally it's tuna castrole and the 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:17.120 pickled egg is the worst dish for me on the 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.120 on the shell. If people said the worst pickled eg 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:21.080 Have you had a pickled egg? 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.400 I thought casseroles are for Caucasians. And this is the 0:05:23.400 --> 0:05:24.800 Black Black Network. It was. 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.679 It was two black sisters that owned a all black 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:34.039 owned store that carries all black owned and they made 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.960 a tuna castrole and it was absolutely that's terrible. 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.520 Putting the olive oil in the pan for the onions 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.640 because I like it to caramelize, okay, okay, But also 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.480 I'm gonna boil the hot dogs, start boiling the macacheese. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.920 And while that's boiling, that's where I'd just be trying 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.919 to get the flavor with the onions, and Shita tastes 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.440 like extra. Yeah. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.120 I just learned the other day that some people seasoned 0:05:59.200 --> 0:05:59.880 the onions. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:01.040 Are you one of those people? 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:02.000 No? 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:08.400 Am? I Karen? Now it was? It was a black girl. Damn, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.320 I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I expect her 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:16.960 to be black. You you said you're a carot. You 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.280 want to know something that's just too black? My mom, 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.960 every time she watches my dog, won't feed the dog 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.680 dog food. It's only like chicken, right, And I was like, Mom, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.080 why is that chicken color different? Oh well, it has 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.720 a little garlic powder and just a little season on it. 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.080 She seas in the dog's foods there's too bland, no way. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.720 And every time I got the dog be peen out 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:42.520 of its ask. Actually, there's a very special day and 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.640 week for me. By the way, my parents, I moved 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.560 them to LA, so they're flying to night. 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:49.320 You moved them. 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.800 They live in Orlando, so literally I'm New York Orlando, LA. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:56.440 And I was like, I can't do this triangle. It's 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.479 got to be one back and forth, okay. So I 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.320 just wanted them closer to me, so that that to 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.279 me was like a big life goal. That's summer Orlando. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.960 First of all, that's a yeah, cause it would have 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.320 been cheaper to move from LA to Orlando. 0:07:09.400 --> 0:07:11.920 You moved them to a more expensive market. I want 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:13.520 them to be closer to me. This is where all 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.680 my work is happening. And like, yeah, I mean, Orlando's 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.520 where I'm from. So it was any day go on 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.800 my birthday this year, I went to suspend it with 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.480 my father. My dad, he's in a wheelchair, so it's 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.160 a lot more difficult for him to visit me like 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.040 my mom does. People probably see my mom all over 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.880 my content. But my dad was like, damn, I wish 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.320 I could watch TV with you all the time. I 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.400 wish we could have these moments together, Like I wish 0:07:37.400 --> 0:07:39.240 I could be in LA with you and your mom. 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:41.360 And I was like, well, shit, you guys could be there, 0:07:42.040 --> 0:07:45.320 and so yeah, I mean to me, it's crazy to 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.520 make this meal today. I actually walked by a T 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.280 Mobile store, which was my last job, to walk by 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.800 a T Mobile store making the meal. I made it 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.760 when I was broken. I'm literally able to afford to 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.840 move my parents here, but who knows, maybe they gonna 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.080 spend so much money. I'm gonna have to eat this 0:07:57.080 --> 0:07:57.520 shit again. 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:01.520 No, no, but you're making like really big moves. 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:02.360 I was. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.760 I'm so excited about having this conversation with you because 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.960 knowing that you came from Brokeness and seeing like you're 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:16.040 making like chess moves like effortlessly. So when I say like, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.320 I'm pulling out the pen like, I've been working for 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:20.840 myself for a long time, but I definitely don't make 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:24.520 the type of money that I need to make. I'm 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.240 still in the Jamaican like two thousand here, five thousand here, 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:32.000 three thousand here equals twelve thousand. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.559 But I'm not at the point where I'm playing chess. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:39.439 So I'm literally excited about this episode because we're all 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:40.439 about to get took to. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:41.679 School, you, I hope. 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:43.800 So yeah, So I hope I do the due deal 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:44.880 with Just tell us what was. 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.679 Going on when you were making Gourmet mac and Cheese, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.320 the original. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:53.240 So I'll tell you this coming from Brokeness was. 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:55.080 Something that I thought you were gonna put the Sorry. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:56.920 I thought you were going to do the smaller pan 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:58.840 for the hot dogs, and I had your pan for 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.240 that them first. I don't know if they you're gonna 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.480 boil him in the mac and cheese. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.000 This is the maca cheese potting. 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.800 No, it was the other because that pot small. I 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:09.160 love you. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.600 I'm making my own Okay, I'm staying out of the kitchen. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:13.360 Said you're gonna take. 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.160 Just so you know, every time I get involved in 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:19.920 the kitchen, I burned someone's dish. So I need to 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.840 stay in my life. Okay, okay, made feet, Yeah, because 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:26.120 I've been burning stuff on people's own meals, all right, 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.079 So so tell me what was going on. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:29.679 Sorry. 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:32.839 So I actually grew up with money and there was 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.680 a stock market crash that happened that lost my parents 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.120 some money, and then my dad ended up having a 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:43.600 stroke that kept him out of work. And so after that, 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.920 I ended up dating a guy. It was just like 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.800 rich boyfriend that was paying for my school and then 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.640 he was very abusive. Broke up with him and then 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.680 that stopped. My parents couldn't really afford to college. I 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.360 had to help them out because my dad had this stroke. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.600 So started work at the mall, White House black market 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.359 clothing stores like a hand tailor. 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.920 Bike Yeah, yeah, a little bit high play, yeah, high class, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:08.400 that's my first I did. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.439 Did you steal anything from them, like a few things. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.960 Ok. Good, good, But then I realized once I had 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.040 to stop, I wasn't like stealing for real, for real, Okay, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.199 it was just a little shit. And then one day 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:19.640 I wore something to work and she was like, I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.520 didn't know you got that dress, and I was like, ah. 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:24.920 The craziest thing was I went to jail and ended 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.600 up having it was for my license. Everybody thinks it 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.560 was something worse. It was for my license, and I 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.960 had a GPS monitor on my foot, and so I 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:38.280 had to always wear Maxi dresses to work, or like 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:39.959 super big boots. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.880 To cover you got one of those ankle monitors. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.240 Yes, no way, all working at my house like Marky. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.320 It was terrible. So then I think I was helping 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.360 a woman that worked at a T mobile store and 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.199 I was selling her mad shit. She's like, you're really 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.280 good at sales. How much she's making here. I don't 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:54.960 remember what it was, fucking ten dollars an hour, but 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:56.360 my commission would be good, so it'd be up to 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.400 twenty or thirty. And she was like, I can make 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.679 you double a tea mobile with the way you saw. Oh, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.120 now I knew nothing about cel phone. She's like, you 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.760 don't have to just have to be cute. It's funny 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.240 because I went on a date the other day, this 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:08.959 nigga said, you look like a bitch. She used to 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.680 work its emobile. I used to tie my little shirt 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:13.120 up like this and be like, what kind of fun 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:17.640 y'all want? I was gonna sell it to all the 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:21.400 top niggas, the prepaid lines in the box, because you 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.319 weren't supposed to legally sell them a new number every month. Oh, 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:27.840 so niggas would come in. I just fucking keeps wiping 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:30.920 the shit whatever. So ended up being so good at 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:34.480 T mobile selling shit. I think my first year working there, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.480 I was like twenty two twenty three. I made like 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.000 ninety thousand dollars. Get the heck out crazy. They don't 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.840 pay it over that way, no more. Yeah, but like 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.000 I was selling selling something. The iPhone was hot back then, 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:48.520 and it just came out and literally was fucking flying 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.040 to Europe, just like experiencing life. Living life still had 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.160 a shitty car with windows, didn't go down, But I 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.960 just spent all my money and experiences, and what I 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:58.120 realized from those experiences, like, oh I got to get 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.040 more and more and more. Every time you taste a 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.959 little bit of luxury, now you need more and more 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.559 and more, you know. So from there, ended up training 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.920 T Mobile staff in Florida. Then I ended up managing 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:11.600 a store, and then they moved me to New York 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:15.440 to work in corporate. And now not saying I couldn't 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:16.640 have made it to New York alone, but I did 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:17.920 have a sugar daddy then. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.560 Okay, And so he was like a legit sugar daddy, 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.160 like what you envisioned in the movies, Like he wasn't 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.840 that hot, and he had paper. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.000 Oh he paper, Oh yeah, like some bitches have a 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:27.559 sugar daddy. 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:29.520 I I he had a plane, he had he had 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:30.040 a plane. 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:32.880 Yes, oh he was like legit okay, Oh my god. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.240 He was so rich. And I met him working in 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:36.880 with the fucking T mobile. He came in. He had 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.520 like three hundred lines for his company and he was like, 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.240 I'm with Rise and Da Da Da, but his daughter 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:43.160 wanted something that was only a T Mobile. I was like, 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.520 why don't you move your lines over? And he's like, honey, 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.680 I don't do T Mobile Like this is that's very 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.240 So I think I saved him like twenty five grand 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.360 a month, and he said he was gonna give me 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.600 a gift and I told him. He's like, what are 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.000 you doing this week? I was like, I'm gonna go 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.760 see Beyonce Miami. He was the Formation tour. Okay. He's like, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.000 how are you gonna get there? I'm like gona drive 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.200 with my friends. He's like, take my jet, and I 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:04.839 remember my friend's like, oh my god, you gotta suck 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:06.480 that owd man. We got on that jet and it 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:07.960 was like, bitch'll. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:08.320 Suck a thick jot. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:11.840 And so that was like my first entry into whole 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:15.760 ho ho sheit okay, okay, got me this insane apartment 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:17.640 in New York. It was like, wait he was doing 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:19.959 that too, oh yeah, saying when he knew I was 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.840 gonna leave Orlando, He's like, sweetie, I can't have you 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:24.439 leave me. I was thinking about getting a place in 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.600 New York anyway. He's like, where were you gonna move? 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.320 I was like Manhattan. He goes that means Harlem, which 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.400 was true. So I was Midtown fifty fourth and eighth. 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.240 And it's so funny because my mom came to visit 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:39.280 me and the address was two sixty West fifty fourth 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.320 or two sixty spy. My mom got to my apartment, 0:13:42.360 --> 0:13:44.880 she goes, oh my god, it's Tudio fifty four is 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.439 right there. She's like, that's where I was going, That's 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.200 where I was meeting these rich guys. You're turning into me. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.080 She was so proud of me. And I think, what's 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:54.959 funny is my mom always wanted me to. 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.120 Be such a good personality. Couldn't wear your personality? 0:13:58.160 --> 0:13:59.960 Okay, my mom always wanted me to be with a 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:02.199 always wanted me to be taken care of. And like, 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.560 it's so crazy because now I'm the rich guy, you know. 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:10.400 And I don't think she expected it, but it's just amazing. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.360 Like I never thought i'd get here. I always kind 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.120 of thought and she would say to me, you're gonna 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.959 get married, You're gonna have a big house, and you're 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.480 gonna move me and your dad in the guest house. 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:20.960 It's gonna be so great. And like literally I'm moving 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.160 them into a place down the street from me. Yeah, 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:23.680 without an e. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.800 But how does it not that I also say that 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.640 now you're the rich guy, Like when you do you 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.600 this obviously is in the first time you said it? 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.560 Is it when did you have the epiphany that you 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:34.520 were the rich guy. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.240 I damn, that's a good feeling. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.640 I can't wait to have that feeling. It was It 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:42.040 wasn't the first time I felt that was. I was 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:44.760 in Paris with my mom and I took her for 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.560 a birthday and I wanted to fly her first class, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.200 but I use like an upgrade to getting points then, 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:52.240 you know, because like first class, I'd be like ten 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.480 fifteen thousand for them. Lay down. And when we got there, 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.640 we get to the hotel and it was really nice, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.040 and she's like, oh, what's our room? 0:14:59.160 --> 0:14:59.240 Like? 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:02.080 Oh, room, Like we have two separate rooms and every 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.080 little thing my mom was starting to count in her head, 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:05.280 like how much was my daughter making? 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:06.200 Yeah, she said, we. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.520 Got our own rooms. Okay. Then we go to the store. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.200 I'm like, you want something, I'll just get a lipstick. 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:12.720 I'm like, no, Mom, you can get more. You can 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:13.440 get a bag o. 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.240 Your mom was like, what the break is happening? 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.880 She was bugging out. And then we walk outside of 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.200 the protest store and there's a hotel very famous called 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:24.440 the Plaza at My mom was telling me how princes 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.320 would take her to dinner there. When she was young 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.040 and she would meet all these guys when she was 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.760 traveling in Europe and this was like the place to go. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:31.440 I was like, oh, do you want to have dinner there? 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:33.880 And that was when it hit my mom. She got 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:37.080 really emotional and she's like, I cannot fucking believe I'm 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.720 doing this with you. My mom is seventy seventieth birthday 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:40.280 at the time. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.640 Oh, you said stay out the lane, so I'm staying. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.200 I'm watching it. 0:15:46.920 --> 0:15:50.200 I get cooked for her now, Yo. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:51.960 You ain't been in the kitchen in a while. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:53.280 I cooked this morning. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.600 Yo, I'm sorry you told me that. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.760 You told me to stay out the kitchen, and we 0:15:57.880 --> 0:15:59.560 almost about to burn down the whole. 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.120 Don't even know if you don't read on there to 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.480 be on the wood part. 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.680 No, I can't. I was looking for another contract. Okay, 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.560 I'll move it to this one. The ale I tried to. 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.720 I love it, No, but it was. It was beautiful 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.200 because my mom really was just so excited for me, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:18.800 so proud of me. I do remember, you know, we 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:20.240 still niggas at the end of the day, Like we 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.400 sitting here with these fucking Louis bags and all these 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.760 expensive shopping bags and literally, my mom orders a drink. 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:27.400 She looks at the men. She said, oh shit, that 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.360 was forty three dollars. She was let me sip slow. 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.560 But it's really great because for me, like I don't 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:37.200 have kids yet, so like spoiling my parents just it's 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:38.480 like dream come true. Shit for me. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.880 I can only imagine I really really. 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.600 Have wanted this for myself my life, and like I 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:46.280 love doing it for my mom. My mom thinks I'm Beyonce. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:48.520 Like if we walk into a place and can't get in, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.040 like you don't know how my daughter is called Charlemagne. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.960 It's just my mom is like my daughter's on TV 0:16:56.160 --> 0:17:01.520 and they're like, really, what out confuse? But yeah, I 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:02.960 mean I feel really proud to do that. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.359 Hell yeah, and they come tonight. This is a big 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:07.240 freaking deal. 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:09.520 She's gonna get her nerves well. 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.440 And luckily you moved it right down the street. 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:12.280 I did. So. 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:13.960 My mom wanted to get rid of her car. She 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.359 was like, I think I'm getting old. She had a 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.159 little moment. We were looking for her apartment and she 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:21.440 saw me parallel park. She started crying. I'm like, what's 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:24.320 wrong with you? She's like, I'm older than I thought. 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:25.760 I don't know if I can do this shit. I 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.359 got to get rid of my car, like I'm an 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.000 old lady. What if I hit somebody? Thought? And so 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.760 we sold her car. And I'm a little nervous because 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.280 you know, parents don't want to give up too much 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.320 of their autonomy. They need to be able to do 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:39.240 shit for themselves. So you know, I hope she can't 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.200 moved her in a walkable neighborhood. She'll figure it out. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.640 Yeah, And then now are they still together? So he's 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:45.880 when does your dad come? 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:46.399 It is? 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.800 So my dad comes in tonight. He's just like as 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.400 a hospital visit, and it's a little more extensive when 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.480 someone's like fully in a wheelchair. So I wanted my 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.040 mom to have a few days to herself. I'll take 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.080 care of my dad and then you know, okay, in 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.240 a lot of shit they've lived there forever. Okay, Okay, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:03.760 so yeah it's a big deal. 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.440 So let's talk about go back to your broke story, okay, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.840 because I want to know how this elevation because it 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.080 seems like somewhere around your elevation that was like a 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:13.960 speed track. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.960 So the broke missus, the brokest I think i'd been 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.400 was when I left the abusive X. Right, he only 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.119 let me keep barely the clothes that I had that 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.800 I had when I like got with him. 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:30.119 Are we talking like emotional or physical abuse? 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.680 Physical and emotional? He was crazy. I mean, I don't 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.439 know how dark you can get on the show. But like, 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:38.119 I didn't even know it was bad because I just 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.440 kind of thought when a man is paying for things 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:45.359 for you, like you deal with a little bit of something, right, Yeah, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.600 And so to me, if you never close your fist, 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:51.119 I thought that was fine. I never realized how the 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.120 steps of you know, physical violence can be. Yeah. So 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.800 when I left him, he didn't give me anything. It 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.800 was really tough. I mean, mind you, I went from 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.320 when I was a kid having a driver drive me 0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.159 to school that's how my parents were, to like literally 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:09.960 figuring out what I was gonna do with the last bottles, right, 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.960 So it was really tough. And I couldn't ask my 0:19:12.960 --> 0:19:14.920 parents for anything, didn't want to tell them how bad 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:15.320 it was. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.959 Yeah, you know, so when I moved, he didn't want 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:19.800 to tell them because they were already struggling. 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.320 Yeah. And then I can't imagine how my mom would feel. 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:23.959 She's like, oh my god, was like excited about you 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.479 having this rich boyfriend? Yeah, oh yeah, you know. So 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.160 ended up finding a place I think it was seven 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.359 hundred a month, split the rent with a homegirls, a 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.120 two bedroom in Orlando. He was right by Walmart, thank god, 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:37.040 because that's where I was buying all the fucking hot dogs, 0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:40.040 the mac and cheese. Wrong, but my number one broke 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.159 thing I would do. So I used to hang with 0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:47.160 all the trap news because hello, that was my jam okay, 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:50.600 and I'm from Florida, right, so like southern culture, big 0:19:50.640 --> 0:19:54.120 car shows, HBC's like it was just fun and basically 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:55.760 what I would do if they were going to like 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.159 buy a bottle or a table in the club, I 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.159 would see if I had like maybe thirty dollars up 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.280 to my account so that it would overdraft, and have 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:04.199 them give me the cash. And that was like my 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:05.440 payday loan to myself. 0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:10.320 Oh wow, hold that you are like really in deep 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:11.919 when you think of that strategy. 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:14.400 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.040 My roommate and I at the time. I remember we 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:18.600 both got paid on different weeks. So there was a 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.120 Thursday and we both got paid that or I got 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:23.040 paid that Friday. I was like, damn, we don't have 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:24.600 detergent left, but we want to go to the club. 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:26.399 We had like twenty bucks. She was like, okay, we 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:31.159 get vodka or detergent, and we got vodka. Okay, we 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.160 use some body washing like clean shit. In the same 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:34.280 we were like, we got to go out and meet 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:37.000 niggas to make more money. And it's crazy that, like 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.720 that was what I thought being able to have success. 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.040 Look like I got to meet a rich guy. I 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.560 got to be a basketball player this fi or that guy. Yeah, 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.760 which a lot of women still think they need to 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:46.680 do today. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:51.159 I want to subscribe. I'm gonna say it openly. I 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.639 want to subscribe to the rich nigga club because I 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.440 do the opposite. I'm like, are you broken, homeless? 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.720 Let me help you. I can graduate you to the 0:20:58.800 --> 0:20:59.280 next lines. 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.080 Oh no, trust me. You don't want to get in 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.640 that game. You know what the problem is because they'll 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:05.520 turn around to look at. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.399 You and be like, I know I'm homeless, but uh oh. 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:10.960 No, my life, I think I'm better than you. The 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.320 problem is, like I think now, a lot of the 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.040 dudes are in my industry right, so, like the people 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.679 that I'm working amongst, I can't be out here like 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:21.879 trying to fuck with these niggas for bread like I 0:21:21.920 --> 0:21:24.520 used to. Don't get me wrong, I would still want Toby, 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:28.560 but like for real, like you know, it's like they'll 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.320 know me from somewhere. I've seen me on something, so 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.240 I don't want to be a bird. Then I just 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:34.639 end up, you know, a bird with these niggas. 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:40.199 But whatever, I'll tell you right now, I am learning 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.680 and I am done. So you know, if you ever 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:44.600 find a rich one, you can always slide on. 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.439 Heyko, I'm like. 0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.320 Yeah, because I've actually I've never actually dated a rich dude. 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:53.600 My damnsel in distress thing all the time was just 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.240 like I just really want to be able to like 0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:59.800 ount my you know, parents, And it was true. I 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:01.399 was like, so, I'm just like working really hard and 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.359 I can't ut work college. We're just like, I'm really smart. 0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.560 I read a lot. I was always like doing a 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:10.040 fucking sob story, which I'll tell you what, my sugar daddy. 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.520 A lot of the things that I think helped me 0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:16.720 now are the stock tips and investment tips I got 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:17.520 for my sugar daddy. 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:21.280 But didn't didn't you say, were your parents in stock 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.199 market too though it crash okay, So you didn't want 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:25.480 to take tips from them, were you? 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.040 Like No? 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:32.159 But you know, with him, particularly my sugar daddy, I 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.040 remember he would get up at four o'clock in the morning, 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:35.800 five o'clock in the morning and watch the market, to 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:39.960 watch the markets in China wherever, just international stocks four 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:43.320 x right, things like that, and it never made me 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.679 want his money. I always wanted to be him. I 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.640 always wanted to be that person that just had this, this, this, 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:51.160 this and that to me that was so attractive about him. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.000 People used to always ask me how I could fuck 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:54.480 him and shit like that, and I was like, bro, 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:57.560 you don't know how rich the person is. You don't 0:22:57.560 --> 0:23:00.159 know how how much that drives me. The ambition that 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.120 made him sexier and sexier. So one day I eventually 0:23:03.160 --> 0:23:04.760 just asked him like, hey, I really want to learn 0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:06.840 the stock market, but like, you know, what, can I 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.440 put like five hundred dollars in? And he's like, that's 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:12.200 not a start. I'll give you ten thousand dollars if 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.800 you can make it grow. I forgot the timeframe. He said, 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.399 I'll reward you with another ten and he did wow, 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.439 And I kept growing it and growing it. I think 0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:21.720 at the time I even put the money in T 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:25.239 Mobile think it opened became a publicly traded company when 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:30.600 I worked there, became publicly traded and then it was 0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.440 six dollars and then they went up to like thirty 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:33.160 and I thought, I get. 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:44.480 A lot of money. 0:23:47.600 --> 0:23:51.280 So when you were doing the podcast, and this is before, 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:54.440 I want to say, before everybody was on podcasting correct, 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.119 seven years ago? Yeah, I mean it was like before 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.840 the new wave or were you guys early in Like 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:00.400 we were. 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.639 Very early, and like people were verrely really doing video, 0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:06.400 I think for popular podcasts, just for scale. 0:24:07.840 --> 0:24:10.240 I don't understand how you're mixing water and oil and 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:11.680 you're not getting burns. 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.439 I'm standing away. I'm trying to like I didn't have 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.720 a grill, okay, but I'm trying to get that real plate. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:22.600 Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. Okay, gourmet Continue. 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:23.879 I don't want to derail you. 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:27.760 This is fucking me up. This is hard. I can't 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:29.680 even listen to music when I cook one. 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:31.760 You would be surprised how many people will at the 0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:34.440 after each interview, they'll be like yo, cooking and talking 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:35.200 at the same time. 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:36.960 Really really difficult because. 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.160 You're like knowing that you have to engage, like that's 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:40.840 what's making it. 0:24:41.000 --> 0:24:44.400 And you have to like tell your story the entire time. 0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:46.120 I don't know, I'm about to start telling you some lies. 0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:52.440 No no, So so your sugar baby is sugar babe, 0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:54.800 sugar daddy, so that would make you the. 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.040 Sugar baby, right, sugar baby. 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:57.600 Okay, okay, I'm going to be a sugar baby. 0:24:57.600 --> 0:24:58.640 I'm going to get a shirt. 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.840 Baby, bros. Every time when I was out with him, 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.960 I would take him to like fucking any and this 0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:06.280 when I just moved to New York. Catch just just 0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:08.480 came out at the time, and SGK was super popular. 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.159 I remember all them niggas if you be looking at 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:11.320 me with him, and I'd be like, come on, babe. 0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.880 Also just turned on knowing that he had to fuck 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.720 me for money, uh huh, which is terrible, but I 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.400 was okay, it was sexy to me, Like especially when 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:22.760 I remember he would be like, you want to get 0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:23.879 some clothes, and I would always want to get a 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.080 little Nike askic to shit. You know many all the 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:31.760 niggas of you in yeah, he's my daddy, but so anyway, 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:33.080 start horrible decisions. 0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:37.399 But I like how you were actually inspired by his 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.159 moves versus well, I don't want to say I like, 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:44.160 but it's interesting that you were inspired by him being 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.640 successful to be even more successful, and you you took 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.200 the initiative to even say, hey, I want to learn 0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:52.280 what you're doing and do it on my own, which 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:52.720 was great. 0:25:52.880 --> 0:25:55.560 It's like I always wanted this sex in the city 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.159 life mm hmm, but I never felt like any of 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.760 them needed men to live that life. Yeah, and so 0:26:01.600 --> 0:26:03.600 I wanted to have the girlfriends that I was wearing 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:06.639 an amazing designer with and fucking enjoying fashion show and 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.080 doing this shit. But I knew if I was tied 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:11.080 to a man, I wouldn't have that freedom. And I 0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:14.760 had also experienced my first relationship a man with money 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.520 and abuse, so I was like, I have to have 0:26:16.560 --> 0:26:18.919 it on my own. I can't be down again. And 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.280 you know, I hate to say it like this, but 0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:23.760 my mom was a housewife her whole life. And what 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:25.680 happened to my parents with losing their I mean, their 0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.159 house got poor clothes on right, the home that I 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.639 SETI grew up in. It's like it was tough to 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:32.239 watch them go through that, and I think about two 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:35.720 incomes or just diversifying shit what that would have meant. 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.880 So that really fueled me a lot. And it's tough 0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:40.040 for my mom to hear that. 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:44.080 Yeah, but why have you had those sidebar conversations? 0:26:44.119 --> 0:26:47.760 Oh yeah, definitely, But it's not easy. Like my mom 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.760 is so amazing, but there's moments where she's like, oh 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.239 my god, I never taught you to go out there 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:53.959 and do it alone. 0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.360 Well look at you in a way. 0:26:56.400 --> 0:27:00.040 You're you know, well I made money off of person. 0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.040 Well you make money because you're a gangster entrepreneur. That's 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.960 really it. I mean the personality, I mean, in my opinion, 0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:12.880 the personality is just like the cherry on the cake. 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.159 But you know what, I'm a feller at heart. And 0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:18.280 my father that's what he did growing up. He owned 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.320 like camera stores and like you know the little row 0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.479 like stores back in the day they'd have where they 0:27:23.480 --> 0:27:27.159 were selling electronic those shops. That was my dad's like 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:32.119 line of work. Okay, And when I was growing up, 0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:33.840 I mean this shit, that's what I started selling clothes, 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:41.040 t mobile my BLIZZI Then then like literally everything about 0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:43.800 it felt like selling to me, you know, Like it's 0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:45.640 interesting the way Mandy and I have kind of done 0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:50.200 our business. I always felt like she has really helped 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.080 us so much when it comes in terms of our finances. 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:52.239 Right. 0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:54.680 She had a financial background, and even though I came 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.680 from the tech world, was selling like I mean, I'm 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.520 the first person when we're on a call that's like 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:00.600 I want to do it for this much, this or that, 0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.400 And like I loved that. We've been able to play 0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.679 up both of our corporate roles in that. Yeah, and 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.280 I've got a lot of seller blood in me. My 0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.720 partner Alex now with WTF Media Studios, anytime we have 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.560 a big deal or he sees someone's budget, he's like, oh, 0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.480 you have to sell them on the phone. You have 0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.480 to tell them why. And I really enjoy it. It makes 0:28:20.520 --> 0:28:21.920 me feel like I still got it a little bit. 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:22.600 I Uh. 0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.159 I always say this that I think I used to 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:26.560 always say. 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.000 When I have a child, I want to teach her 0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.400 how to read, I want to teach her financial literacy, 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:31.680 I want to teach her about God. 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:33.440 But the number one skill that she. 0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.679 Has to have before she graduates high school is the 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:40.040 ability to sell. Because I think it is the most 0:28:40.280 --> 0:28:43.600 underrated skill. And if you're going to go work for yourself. 0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:45.560 The number one thing you're gonna have to do is 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.680 sell a product, sell yourself. And so I don't buy anything, yep. 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:52.480 And I remember when I had my first company. I 0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.320 remember going to home deep or office depot and buying 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.040 those little sale books and you know how will out 0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.000 my hair pulled back and all this and whatever. But 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:05.320 I knew right away that sales is the one skill. 0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.760 And I would listen to all these audio tapes too 0:29:07.760 --> 0:29:10.600 about like how people you know you're almost nervous getting 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:10.960 into it. 0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.320 Well, what's interesting about selling too? I know Mandy and 0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:15.640 I had a conversation about this, Like, so I never 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:18.320 finished college because I couldn't afford to finish it because 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.000 I got out of that relationship, right, m I don't 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.080 want it to splatter in all this equipment. I don't 0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:27.360 normally do it like this. But Mandy at the time 0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.960 coming off of two degrees working for this huge firm, 0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:34.120 and she was working more hours and not making as 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.200 much as me in accounting at that time. I understand 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.200 it was junior level. Yeah, but I think about that 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.640 a lot, and I think about the money you can 0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.080 make from selling all the time, and I think about 0:29:44.080 --> 0:29:47.720 that instance of like, shit, maybe she's smarter than me, 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.120 but why isn't she making it up? And it's because 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:55.400 that particular skill really can't be taught real you can't. 0:29:55.520 --> 0:29:58.240 Yeah, you gotta practice it and practice it and practice 0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.240 it and practice it. 0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.160 I mean, I believe Mandy is greater than what was 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.600 I gonna say, you know, the job that she had, 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.320 and that's why she's making way more and doing way 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.600 more things now. But yeah, I mean it's definitely a thing. Yeah. 0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.280 So yeah, with selling doing shit like that, had horrible 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:16.560 decisions on the side, and it was really difficult to 0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.120 juggle both. And so about two years into doing horrible decisions, 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:22.640 I quit. But it was mainly because I was like, 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.320 you know what, if I ever wanted to come back 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.520 to this shit, I will, Like I've been making jokes recently, 0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.320 I'm like, oh my god, me and fifteen years I'm 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:31.520 probably gonna be a real estate agent. 0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.200 So why did you quit? 0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:38.080 Two years in the trajectory of horrible was faster than 0:30:38.080 --> 0:30:41.280 the trajectory of corporate America. For example, how long do 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.720 we work a corporate job? Right? So you want to 0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.280 get promoted? I worked for Tea Mobile six years I 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:50.120 got to be a manager after year three and a 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.920 half four, if there's a spot for you, so to me, 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:57.880 I kind of just felt like this is moving faster 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.000 than my rate in the corporate world. 0:31:00.760 --> 0:31:02.440 Yeah, but you said you quit horrible. 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.520 Oh sorry, quit my corporate Oh. 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:06.360 Okay, okay, Oh because you were like two years in 0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:10.000 I quit horrible. So no, you quit your corporate okay, okay. 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:13.320 Got quit my corporate job after two years, and I 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:16.960 legitimately felt like it was not gonna make me. 0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:21.160 But I have to ask before, how much were you 0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:22.880 making it horrible. 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:25.680 To say, okay, not as you make it. Oh, you 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:27.080 weren't making as much as T Mobile. 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.120 So here's the thing, because a lot of people ask 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.000 me when is the right time to quit a job, 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:34.280 and I can only explain it like this, starting Team Mobile, 0:31:34.280 --> 0:31:37.840 I made ninety thousand, ending I was around one seventy five, okay. 0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.720 Which is damn T Mobile, Go ahead, go on. 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:43.880 It was like I was selling to companies that needed 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.719 like Ethernet I gradual disaster recovery, like I graduated from phones. 0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.880 But basically this is what happens, so horrible decisions at 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.000 that time that I quit may have been making me 0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:58.920 one hundred thousand, maybe one twenty five from touring mainly 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:01.440 not Patreon ad money. 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.040 And that's two years in Yeah, geez, all right, go on, 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:05.920 And I. 0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:07.840 Think the tour money because Mandy and I were buying 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.520 out theaters, We brought out carolines on Broadway. 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.800 And you guys were physically doing it yourself. 0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.920 Splitting that money, paying ourselves back event bright type shit. 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:21.640 But what I realized was like, oh, took me six 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.880 years to make ninety to one to seventy. Ye, took 0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:27.280 me two years from zero to one hundred. So next 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.040 year I'm gonna make more. Yeah, let's just say I 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:32.320 make another fifty. It's worth it. Not to mention I 0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:33.960 have more time on my hands. I could probably do 0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:37.400 more appearances and more tour dates, so it's time to quit. 0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:42.280 I also remember one moment it was brilliant idiots. If 0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:44.840 anyone watches that episode, I was literally wearing a suit 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.120 like a blazer and a skirt. But Mandy and I 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.240 had to like make an excuse to leave our jobs 0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.400 that day to go shoot with charl Mane and Andrew. 0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:55.320 So I think that it really will show you, like 0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:57.240 when you have to start saying no, to things. Oh 0:32:57.880 --> 0:32:59.560 oh yeah, when you have to start saying no to 0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:03.640 things of your day job, Yes, maybe that's when it's time, 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.360 like when you're really getting booked like that, like TV 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.360 appearances even Like I remember we did Vice Live and 0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:11.400 I couldn't be there early for the rehearsal because of 0:33:11.400 --> 0:33:14.600 my job, and I was like, damn man, and anyone 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.600 who's watching this who might be semi getting entertainment, whether 0:33:18.600 --> 0:33:21.280 you've got a TikTok or popular Instagram channel, you want 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.320 to do a Horrible Decisions podcast and maybe get or 0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.200 even eating while robe. Who the fuck is gonna do 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.120 this shit at six thirty seven o'clock at night, right, 0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:31.160 who's gonna do what? Like to have a guest? 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:31.600 Yeah? 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.840 Entrepreneurs, Like all this shit gets filmed during the day. Yeah, 0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:37.120 so it's really tough to have a nine to five 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:41.360 and pursue those entertainment dreams. And like that was why 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:43.320 I was like, I got to figure the shit out. 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:48.280 I think my biggest success in this industry came during 0:33:48.280 --> 0:33:53.400 the pandemic while Pivoting. So made the TV show Sex Sells. 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.440 It's about the business of sex, having money, making money 0:33:56.480 --> 0:34:00.040 from sex without having it, And I came up with 0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:02.240 that because that's how I make money, right, I just 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.160 basically talk about sex covered all these adult industries and 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.120 I'm not a TV star, and it ended up popping 0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:09.279 on tuess And that's why I'm on. 0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.640 To how did you Did you package that yourself and 0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.920 then start selling it or did you package it and 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.840 then started calling Charlemagne or different people you have relationships 0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.160 with and like, so have something that I need. 0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.160 That's what made me the most proud. I didn't need 0:34:22.200 --> 0:34:24.920 a co sign for that. Okay, I believe Horrible Decisions 0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:28.239 had the Charlemagne co sign, and that's what made a 0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.120 lot of people watching in the beginning. I do believe 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.600 Charlemagne made our success faster. Don't believe we're successful because 0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:39.400 it happened faster. But what happened with Sex Sells was 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.280 like I just had so much time during the pandemic 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.320 to think, and I knew my two loves were fucking 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.120 in money m hm, and so I was like, oh 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.320 my god, I should make the show. I want to 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:51.120 humanize sex workers, and literally people don't talk about their 0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.440 sex lives on it, and a lot of people have said, like, oh, 0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.040 it's like horrible decisions on TV. 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.120 But it's even it doesn't sound like it. 0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.719 It sounds completely different because you're talking about this set 0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:00.960 workers right right. 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:02.719 I'm an interview a lot of the guests we had 0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:05.040 so that I can, you know, show them some love 0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.839 and they've got real businesses promote them. But no, it's 0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.319 totally different and I love doing it. It makes me. 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.440 It really brought me into the world of seeing how 0:35:13.480 --> 0:35:16.400 production works, the larger skill budgets and money. 0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:19.799 So but you pitched it yourself, That's what I'm saying, 0:35:19.800 --> 0:35:21.480 Like you went out there or did you have a 0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:23.520 manager that helped you so. 0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.839 It started slow. I didn't have a manager, never had 0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:28.680 an agent ever. 0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:30.879 Basically, oh still to this date. 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:34.360 No, not personally, I'm damn, you're a gangster. I have 0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.400 a person that gives I give them a cut of 0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:38.080 my money if they do pr stuff for me, but 0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:43.160 if they get me a deal. But yeah, So basically, 0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:45.400 there was a guy that reached out to me months 0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.080 back before the pandemic was like, oh, do you want 0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:49.800 to do this type of show? I was like, no, 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.560 Pandemic hits and I was like, you know what, I 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.960 wonder what the fuck he's doing. It's like he making 0:35:55.960 --> 0:35:59.919 TV is TV being made? And we started talking about 0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:02.319 what it would look like if we worked together and 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.879 came up with sex cells together. He worked at FEWS 0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:07.480 at the time. Help me package it, Oh, help me 0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:10.160 make a bible. And we did it that way. But 0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.200 what I will tell anyone that has a good TV 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:16.640 idea is people that work in development needs shows all 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:20.880 the time. I currently run development for Kenya Barris at Audible. Right, Okay, 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.000 don't send me shit right now, I'm done with that. 0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.600 But like literally, I was wondering what shows we're gonna 0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.440 make for him, Like developers want to fucking know, and 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:35.200 if you have good ideas, shooting pilots, making decks, having 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.919 a bible, having the demographics of why it would be good, 0:36:38.239 --> 0:36:40.399 not just coming in their blank like hey, I'm not 0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.120 doing anything like I've been doing XYZ. Like if you 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.640 hit up the Food Network, you'd have how much to 0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:46.360 show them? 0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:47.040 So real? 0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:47.919 You know what I mean. 0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:50.399 I'm gonna take notes. Remember how I said I'll take 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:51.480 it notes, goge you. 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.560 Did, But like here it is, here's my spread, and 0:36:54.600 --> 0:36:56.200 this is what I do with this type of budget. 0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.200 Imagine if you gave me fifty thousand an episode, I 0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:01.120 could be doing it on THEE. I could be coming 0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:02.640 to their homes. I could be x y Z. 0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:03.040 Like. 0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.919 There's so many different ways for the things that we're 0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.359 making right now to make them next level. Yeah, and 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.400 so I think that we just kind of have to 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.680 use our network. Like my biggest thing with playing chess 0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.000 is making sure that I'm rubbing elbows with those that 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:23.200 can one day need to use me for something. 0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:27.360 I need to use you. That's awesome, Yeah. 0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.840 Because the thing is, I remember Charlotte, he said this 0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.240 about someone They were like. He was like, that person 0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:35.840 is such an opportunist, and I was like, I wonder 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.800 if that's who I am. But really, I don't ask 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.120 I let every single person know what the fuck I do. 0:37:41.560 --> 0:37:44.200 I just had a dinner where I sat down next 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:45.960 to one of the most famous comedians in the world. 0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.680 I don't even know if this person can travel on 0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:51.240 a commercial plane, that's how famous they are, right. Wow. 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.160 When they asked me what I do, didn't even say 0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:55.080 a podcasting. I was like, I own a production studio 0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.640 in New York and LA. It's black owned. We shoot 0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.120 podcasts mainly, but we also have a mobile team Boom. 0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.239 Now it's in your brain. Now you know what you 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.160 can use me for. Like, that's the job I felt 0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:07.640 like I needed to sell to that person at the time. 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.080 When I talk to TV show, TV networks or people 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:11.839 that work in Netflix or different things like that I host, 0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:13.919 I do this, I do that right, Like I want 0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.640 to make sure that I'm useful to people that I've 0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:17.520 rebbed elbows with. 0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.279 Yeah, I think your sales skills like shines through. I 0:38:20.320 --> 0:38:23.239 always say, like sales is more about paying attention to 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.880 what the customer wants, listening to them. 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:28.440 And then catering to their needs. 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.839 That's just trying to sell someone something that they don't 0:38:30.880 --> 0:38:33.560 want to buy. So even the way you're talking is 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.160 like your sales skills are just really amazing. Yeah, because 0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.280 that's how it is. You're supposed to sell. You're supposed 0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:41.560 to you know, if someone walks up to me right now, 0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.799 I'm gonna think about, you know what it is they're 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:45.880 gonna need or want from me. 0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.080 Correct. You know, that's a really good point because I 0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.319 didn't even think about me selling myself in that way, 0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:51.239 but like, damn it is. 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:51.839 It is. 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.640 But now opportunists is different because opportunists are I always 0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.240 say I want to be a business person, not a hustler, 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.719 because I feel like a hustler is like, I'm gonna 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.280 take advantage, someone's gonna get a short end of a stick. 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:05.719 But a business person is like, we're all gonna win. 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.600 You're gonna walk away with your piece of the pie. 0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:09.600 She's gonna walk away with her piece of pie, and 0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:10.839 I'm gonna walk away with my piece. 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.359 And no one feels to agreed. You can never make 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.240 someone feel like they're doing you a favor. 0:39:15.440 --> 0:39:17.200 Yeah, like at all. 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.120 I mean, Charlotte Mane was lucky and lucky enough to 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.400 make horrible decisions with his rollout on Black Effect. I 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.759 know there's eighty five South all the smoke, and I 0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:29.040 literally was thinking to myself the other day, Charla Mainne 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.200 is Charlot Mane, But horrible decisions was still good enough 0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.640 to where Black Effects was like, oh, we do need 0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.719 those numbers. But when we sell to add people like 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:39.920 I don't want to fucking suck anybody's dick to feel 0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:41.759 like and I'm not talking about that instance, but just 0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:43.960 anyone like, thank you so much for giving this to you. Yeah, yeah, 0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:46.000 when you know your value, yeah yeah, we have to 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.840 make sure that we're definitely pouring into ourselves in that way. 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.040 But I mean, shit, you know I love fuse to death, 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.840 but I also know my show brings number then and 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.399 I know that's why they treat me well. They love 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:59.840 me too, Like we're definitely doing what we need to 0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:03.000 do for each other. Like I'm so happy to be 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.960 on a network that you know I can be their 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:07.799 most watch show. Like maybe if I was on an 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.680 HBO or some Netflix, maybe I would just kind of 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:11.480 go under the radar. 0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.840 I don't think so. Maybe I honestly don't think so. 0:40:15.080 --> 0:40:17.000 Thank you, I don't think so. I'm not even trying 0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:33.880 to be not well, what was your hardest hurdle? 0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:36.160 I think it just to come to day because I 0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:38.279 feel like you have a lot of great pivots. But like, 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.799 where was there a point where you were like I 0:40:40.840 --> 0:40:47.120 don't know, hmm that you seriously like had that conversation 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:47.680 of I don't know. 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.640 And it could have been my studio. Okay, my studio, 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.000 which is the best thing I've ever done. Actually, my 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:57.440 studio gave me the seal of approval to be bigger 0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:00.560 than just a podcaster, Like that was when I became 0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:03.200 a businesswoman. No matter how hard Mandy and I have worked. 0:41:03.480 --> 0:41:06.160 I never felt like that, and it's no shade to her. 0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:07.520 I don't know if it's because with women. I don't 0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:09.000 know if it's because we talk about sex, but like 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:12.400 I had to do something else for myself to feel 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:15.680 like I could be respected. And it really shows something 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:19.560 about brick and mortar spaces to make people feel very like, oh, 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.799 they're really doing something, which is weird. But it's also 0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.959 because I started getting other people money, Like. 0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:28.920 Thought, what was the hesitancy, Like, where was that hesitancy at? Like, 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.480 where was that pain that investment? 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:33.600 Right? My partner Alex shout out to him, we spent 0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.680 an insane amount of money on fucking equipment, which is 0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.640 why we have one of the best studios right, Like literally, 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.440 I was like, how can we be charging people this 0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.040 little but like our equipment is so fucking expensive, like 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.000 it doesn't add up or whatever. Yeah, and he was like, Yo, 0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.839 that's why everybody's gonna come with us, to know that 0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:55.360 the podcasters like us can be there and then the 0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:57.640 Charlottamanees of the world or whoever they may be. David 0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.000 Letterman wasn't our shit, Oh shit, right? 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.120 Okay, he's like to know these people and okay. 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.560 You can sit amongst them like we're gonna be for 0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:08.000 all of them. And that's really been our brand. I 0:42:08.000 --> 0:42:10.719 believe that's why we're growing. I mean, we get resumes 0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:12.120 like fucking crazy every day. 0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:15.160 So how long did it take when you so you 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:19.080 made that initial investment. The by the way, you're cooking 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.440 like we are in a rich restaurant. 0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.319 Because the point look at all the food she. 0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.000 Made, and it's like, I feel like I'm about to 0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:27.360 eat an appetizer, Gormet. 0:42:27.560 --> 0:42:29.680 You try to make it look clean and minimally. 0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:33.640 When the cameras are off, I'm gonna just go in 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.960 with a fork and just eat everything direct. 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:39.560 I know it. Yeah, because I'm starving and you gave 0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.920 me like an appetizer. 0:42:41.280 --> 0:42:44.279 It's fucking hot dogs. Girl. 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.120 I want to see you sit down next to this 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.600 mic and spend quality time with me. 0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:52.160 Okay, okay, let's try this. It looks good but. 0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:56.359 Not bad. 0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.960 You look's the onions. 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.360 I'm surprised you didn't mix these in together. 0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:07.080 Funny enough, my co host talks about Haitian spaghetti and 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:10.440 it's hot dogs in it. I never mixed the hot 0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:13.000 dogs of pasta. But this is kind of good. This 0:43:13.000 --> 0:43:14.640 ship is amazing. Did you mix it all on one? 0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:14.880 For it? 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.080 I put it together on I don't want to touch 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:18.520 on the plate. 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:22.440 For all y'all listeners. The hot dog and the onions smack. 0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.080 I definitely will mess with Nathan's just because I feel 0:43:25.080 --> 0:43:26.920 like maybe it tastes different or I just haven't had 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:30.000 a hot dog in a while. But the freaking grilled 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:34.759 onions and mac and cheese cheese is genius. Bro I 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:37.400 don't know why I've never thought of seasoning up my 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:38.320 mac and cheese. 0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.800 But the grilled onions, it's crunchy, it's amazing. 0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:43.640 I am so happy. 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.000 I am very impressible. The only thing is. 0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:52.120 I would maybe add and I don't even know, but 0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.440 do you agree? Would you add more salt to the 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:56.200 mac and cheese? 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:57.879 Oh? I put salt on my stuff, but I don't 0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:59.680 want to do that to people. Oh okay, that's what 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.200 the lorries for you. You know, sodium is a bitch nowadays. 0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.080 M Plus, there's a lot of salt in that Tony 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:06.560 Sharia whatever name is. 0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:07.840 Okay. 0:44:08.400 --> 0:44:11.640 So for a girl that came from money, went broke, 0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:16.640 had sugar daddies and it's self made to the point 0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:23.000 of flying your family in from Orlando to LA still 0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.439 in the early early I don't even want to say 0:44:25.440 --> 0:44:29.040 how early thirties she is because all of us are listening. 0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:34.840 Can you believe that much you've accomplished. It's amazing. 0:44:35.239 --> 0:44:37.360 You know. Sometimes I get scared, like I'll lose it, 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:41.080 But then I realize the hunger that I have to 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:45.320 help everybody around me is too deep. It's too intense 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:46.520 that I don't think it could happen. 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:47.960 Now do you deal with well? 0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.680 You said you have multiple companies. You're definitely spread. It 0:44:51.760 --> 0:44:54.040 sounds to me like you're spread pretty thin. I'm so 0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.080 happy you shared that because I always. 0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:57.560 Think that maybe I'm doing something wrong if I have 0:44:57.680 --> 0:44:59.479 so many hustles going at the same time. 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.920 You know, there is something to be said about a 0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:06.479 master of none. But I will say this much what's 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:11.759 worked for me. I don't steal anybody's idea. I really 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.359 ride my own wave. I made a studio not because 0:45:14.400 --> 0:45:16.719 there's other podcast studios, because there were no black owned 0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:20.839 ones that were gonna have podcasters run it. I'd never 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:23.400 been to a podcast studio run by a podcaster. I 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:26.640 made horrible decisions because I really wanted to do a 0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.719 fun sex show with someone that I knew was authentic, 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.759 and there were no black shows about sex that were 0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:35.320 hosted by normal girls. Yeah right, it was always like 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.239 porn stars or whatever. Everything that I've done so far 0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.759 hadn't seen before except for stock, I would say, But like, 0:45:42.400 --> 0:45:46.040 I've really rode my own wave, and that's why I 0:45:46.080 --> 0:45:50.480 think it's worked. So when you do too many different 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:54.200 trades and you're taking an idea, like your concept is different. 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:57.160 We've all seen a cooking show which your concept is different, right, Yeah. Yeah, 0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:59.839 So it's like you have to have something different at 0:45:59.880 --> 0:46:02.000 it to it, and I think that if you don't, 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.880 you then become a master of none because you're just 0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:06.760 trying to do things that other people do. Yeah, that's tough. 0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:11.839 I have a fear of I don't even know where 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.680 this fear came from, but when it comes to partnering 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:17.400 with other people, I feel like my greatest asset is 0:46:17.520 --> 0:46:20.440 my relationships, and it's probably because I have so much integrity. 0:46:20.440 --> 0:46:22.839 I'm like, dude, I won't hurt a full I really 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.080 won't even hurt a fly because I want to treat 0:46:25.080 --> 0:46:26.719 people the way I would want to be treated, So 0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.840 my loyalty is there. But when I see like you 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:32.680 and Mandy working together and you and Alex working together, 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:35.759 I'm like, either the integrity on you has got to 0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.960 be super lit or how are you managing that partnership? 0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.200 Because I always I always get nervous, like what if 0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.440 the other partner doesn't hold up or there's a disagreement? 0:46:44.480 --> 0:46:46.120 So how do you how do you navigate that? 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:49.160 My first partnership I've ever had was with Mandy right, 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:53.080 and Mandy and I had stopped we're friends, stopp being friends, 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:55.359 became friends again during the show, fell out of friendship again. 0:46:55.400 --> 0:47:00.920 But I think we are so hungry to make money 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.120 that we look past that and we're able to think 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.839 of the greater purpose. Like if I had a co 0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.320 host that wasn't about our fans, maybe I couldn't do 0:47:09.360 --> 0:47:11.440 the job, you know what I'm saying. But Mandy's a 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:14.680 self starter like I am too. Yeah, so it's not tough. 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:19.279 Like Mandy and I were on tour putting together the 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:21.239 merch table or doing something with the merchan o, the 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.520 VIP things, and you know, if I see her doing something, 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:25.600 I don't want her to do it alone. 0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:28.200 Like, yeah, because oh nice, okay. 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:29.840 You know, and I think she feels the same for me, 0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.080 so we definitely try and trust me, I have a 0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.360 time where I didn't even realize how much work she 0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:37.320 was putting in with the finance stuff. She's making spreadsheets 0:47:37.360 --> 0:47:39.040 and shit back then and doing stuff I didn't even 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.799 understand that works. I would try to do it on 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:47.840 the creative side. But like I think for me, with partnerships, 0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.359 there's a skill set that someone has that I don't. 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.880 You know, wtf is so about the tech which is 0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.799 all Alex and not me. But I do have to 0:47:56.800 --> 0:48:00.439 give myself credit on how we were able to get 0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.080 this shit going. I just don't know how much I 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.560 rent is where the light deal come from. He don't 0:48:04.560 --> 0:48:06.319 know what the fuck going on, which is great, yeah, 0:48:06.400 --> 0:48:08.640 figure out the other shit. Like I really learned how 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.319 to use our skills and work together in that way, 0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.359 and it's definitely been touched. She's one of my tough 0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.719 he's one of my best friends, and it's like damn, now, 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.399 sometimes it's all work. So we really have to feed 0:48:17.400 --> 0:48:18.799 that friendship. You know. We have to have a night 0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:20.239 where we get drunk together and have fun and not 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:22.759 talk about work. We have to really do that to 0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:25.560 enjoy each other and separate it because it's tough. 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.239 Yeah, I know with Dolly. Dolly and I came from 0:48:29.239 --> 0:48:30.280 the Nick Cannon area. 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:31.440 A lot of people don't know this. 0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.560 So my whole hookup with Black Effects, the president of 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:35.600 Black Man, yeah. 0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:37.520 My stuff was an accident. It was legit. 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.839 I was telling Dolly I was literally like flying weed 0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:44.040 money during the pandemic because I was I was hustling 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.280 all different directions. But anyways, I was trying to build 0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:49.759 this show and I was like, Dolly, I think you 0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:52.200 should be a part of it. But you know, she 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:55.640 had this other job offer and she's like should I 0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:57.000 take him? Like, as long as they don't tell you 0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:59.200 to go to work, girl, I'm all about taking all checks. 0:48:59.239 --> 0:49:00.879 I didn't know it was the President of the Black 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:03.600 Effect or whatever. They happened to need a cooking show, 0:49:04.200 --> 0:49:07.920 and she pitched Eating While Broke and called me like, 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:08.759 you're gonna kill me? 0:49:08.800 --> 0:49:11.000 And I was like, why would I kill you? We're 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:11.960 actual friends, you know. 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:12.600 I told you. 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.840 She's like, I told you know. 0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:18.640 iHeart and ICM and Charlemagne about Eating while Broke and 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.160 they loved it, and I was like, okay, So where 0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:25.560 do I kill you. She's like, well, they you know, 0:49:25.600 --> 0:49:28.080 we run a podcast network and your show is you 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.400 want to do a TV show. I'm like, Dolly, the 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.319 table was just built in my garage. My neighbors are 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.200 driving past it. I actually don't even know where this 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.359 table is gonna go, okay, and I think I had 0:49:40.480 --> 0:49:42.880 just found out I was pregnant or I was like 0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:47.000 borderline in that conversation, and I was like, shit, you 0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:50.600 know I was doing illegal weed activity. I was hustling 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:52.720 in all these different plings. But I had this idea 0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.120 that was literally sitting in my garage, Like they just 0:49:55.160 --> 0:49:58.040 finished putting the forks on the table, and I'm like, Dolly, 0:49:58.160 --> 0:49:59.839 I'm about to go broke. And I done pitched all 0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:01.879 my celebrity friends. But I don't even know if we're 0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:03.680 just taking this table to their house or how we're 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:06.200 even doing it, So why would I kill you? 0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:06.960 Like? 0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:08.480 And she was like, yeah, well they want to send 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:10.400 you an offer like and I was like, She's like, 0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:11.759 can you send me all your decks and stuff? And 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.239 I was like yeah, I had already had everything made. 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:16.200 But it was really no reason to kill her. But 0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:19.440 even to this day. Like sometimes as friends, I'll have 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:21.200 to get on the phone with her and she'll be like, 0:50:21.280 --> 0:50:23.640 I don't want to talk business, or we could talk friends. 0:50:23.640 --> 0:50:25.480 So that's how we managed a friendship. It'd be like, 0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:27.480 Dolly ain't joining here nothing about work. 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.160 That's tough. When someone's like cutting that's tough. 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:31.280 Yeah, oh yeah. 0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:33.600 I remember the first time I heard attitude from DOLLI 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:34.800 when I was asking for more money. 0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.719 I was like, oh, oh yeah, Dolly will tell me 0:50:36.800 --> 0:50:38.520 no so fast. 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:40.560 I don't know, but you know, I separate. 0:50:40.600 --> 0:50:44.000 It is a safe place. It's a safer place than not, 0:50:44.600 --> 0:50:47.440 you know, in my heart is times with Mandy, I 0:50:47.520 --> 0:50:51.279 remember being so angry at her. We've definitely thought like 0:50:51.280 --> 0:50:53.960 I can't do this anymore. Literally, I was like, why 0:50:54.080 --> 0:50:55.600 I go? Fuck it? Where am I going to go? 0:50:55.760 --> 0:50:58.319 Like all this goddamn money, where am I gonna Where? 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:01.919 Am I gonna go work for someone else? Fucking white dude? Like, No, 0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:03.360 I'm gonna make this money with her and figure it 0:51:03.360 --> 0:51:06.680 the fuck out. Actually, it's interesting with our partnership. I 0:51:06.719 --> 0:51:11.160 recently was at dinner with someone who asked me about 0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.400 books and money spending and things like that, and I 0:51:14.480 --> 0:51:16.799 was like, when you talked about integrity. I just thought 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.359 about it. Whether I'm angry with Maandy or not, I've 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.600 never thought she would like take money from the company 0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:24.680 or something. Right with Alex and I were bestie, so 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:26.879 we're not going to fuck each other over. And they 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:29.080 were telling me about how someone been sneaking money out 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:33.719 of their partnership, and I never thought of the bad 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:36.680 side of what could happen for partnerships, only the good. Yeah, 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.080 But it's really because I do find strength in numbers, 0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:42.760 and I think partnership just builds and builds and builds 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.440 your portfolio. I mean, I would rather have half of 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.600 ten things, you know what I mean, especially knowing that, 0:51:50.239 --> 0:51:51.920 like there's so many times Alex has called me and 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:54.799 is like, yo, Neil Brennan is coming in and David 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.719 Lehiman coming in our studios US right, or maybe I'll 0:51:57.760 --> 0:51:59.160 hit him up and I'll be like we're locked down 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.120 for a week. We got to do from Amazon. Like 0:52:01.160 --> 0:52:04.000 it's always one or the other, and it really really helps, 0:52:04.000 --> 0:52:06.600 because when you're trying to get all that different money, 0:52:06.880 --> 0:52:09.840 you can't do all things. I don't believe in people 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:12.120 that are trying to have too much control over everything. 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:14.319 You know. That's that's when it gets really tough. That's 0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:16.319 when you get burnt out. You've got to be able 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.840 to alleviate some of that. I'm real cheap and I 0:52:18.840 --> 0:52:20.680 don't even be wanting to give money up to an assistant, 0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:22.480 but I realize it helps make your life easier. 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:24.600 Have you have you considered bringing one on yet I 0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:27.120 have one, as it has been helpful. 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:30.120 Well, our studio is so busy. She's now just the 0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.960 studio manager of the two New York locations. But oh, 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.880 she was amazing, Like she literally helped me with my 0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:39.840 grandmother's funeral, you know, like when you've got a good one. 0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:42.320 But my sister is like a real nigga, Like she's 0:52:42.360 --> 0:52:47.239 not like she's not, Oh she's so great. She'll call 0:52:47.280 --> 0:52:48.640 me like these mother, Like she helped me with the 0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:50.840 thing for the wheelchair for my dad today. Right, she 0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.480 sent me a screenshot of an email she was like 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:55.680 these motherfucker's trying to play me bruh, and like it's 0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:57.799 so funny because like you kind of do have to 0:52:57.840 --> 0:53:00.400 work with someone that makes you feel comfortable. You know, 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:01.960 if she was too tidied up, I don't think I 0:53:01.960 --> 0:53:04.799 can do it. Yeah, but like I love partnering and 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.279 working with people that make me feel like I'm at home. Yeah, yeah, 0:53:08.280 --> 0:53:11.080 because when we face the world, there's a different person 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:13.360 across that, you know what I'm saying. So knowing that 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.480 we hire black and hire people that are a vibe 0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.560 like yeah, it's just it's so great, yeah, I think. 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.640 But also finding someone that really is invested in your 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.200 vision and your long term goals. I know with my crew, 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.200 I love them, Like if I feel something's de routing, 0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:33.040 I'm like, dinner, lunch, we're getting together. Let's get to 0:53:33.080 --> 0:53:34.719 the table and find out what's going on. But we 0:53:34.880 --> 0:53:37.840 I genuinely like love my crew. 0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.520 Like everybody that works for me, I would want to 0:53:39.520 --> 0:53:42.400 have a drink with them. Yeah. That to me, I 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.839 don't want to hire anybody that makes me like getting 0:53:44.880 --> 0:53:46.759 my nerves and they're weird or like, I want to 0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:48.719 know they're cool, whether they be nerdy as fuck, and 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.000 maybe we don't share those hobbies, like there has to 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:53.919 be some connection there or I won't maybe care as much. 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:56.480 And I think my thing to being a good boss 0:53:56.600 --> 0:53:59.600 is giving a fuck yeah, you know, writing down everyone's birthdays, 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:01.800 making sure I get them a gift, sending them text 0:54:01.800 --> 0:54:04.359 telling them I appreciate them. I also don't say people 0:54:04.440 --> 0:54:07.280 work for me. Like if I'm in front of someone, 0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:09.200 I feel like that's. 0:54:09.120 --> 0:54:11.080 Do you do? You call them like your team? How 0:54:11.080 --> 0:54:11.839 do you reference them? 0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:13.360 I'd be like, I say we work together. 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.239 If someone wants to know, oh, I like that. 0:54:15.880 --> 0:54:17.360 Even if they walk in the studio and they know 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:18.759 on the owner, I'd be like, this is Danny, he 0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:22.359 works with us, or like that just makes me more comfortable. Yeah, 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:26.359 I find a lot of condescendingness and when people kind 0:54:26.360 --> 0:54:28.319 of just be like they work for me. Yeah. 0:54:28.320 --> 0:54:30.439 I was at an event the other day and someone said, 0:54:30.480 --> 0:54:34.719 just so you know, I'm her boss, and I was like, yeah, 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:36.120 I don't know if you had to say that. I 0:54:36.120 --> 0:54:38.040 don't even know the point of saying it. But I 0:54:38.080 --> 0:54:42.799 think mainly in corporate and maybe not very small smaller well, 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.840 I don't want to say an entrepreneurs. I don't know, 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:47.239 but I do see. I guess if you're not at 0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:49.799 the higher level, you see that more because I don't 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:51.840 even think the executives be like I'm the boss. 0:54:52.200 --> 0:54:55.000 No, but like look at Connell from Our Heart, Yeah, 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:57.960 he was hugging everybody and chilling I'm like, what the 0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:00.600 I don't know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know that's 0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:02.920 the thing too. I feel like there's this middle of 0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:04.680 success when you try to prove yourself. I can only 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.000 relate to this. When I was kind of getting some 0:55:07.120 --> 0:55:09.640 decent money, I wanted to wear Lee batons. I wanted 0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.560 to wear my fucking one Louis buiton bag everywhere. I 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:13.880 needed to throw it in your face. 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:14.320 Yeah. 0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:16.480 Now I'm kind of like, you know what I mean, Like, 0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:16.840 I don't know. 0:55:17.080 --> 0:55:19.520 Yeah, Well that's how I feel about Montessori School right now. 0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:21.480 Every time I see someone, I'm like, I pay. 0:55:21.360 --> 0:55:23.399 Two thousand dollars a month for my one year old 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:26.719 to go to school. I should just have it as 0:55:26.760 --> 0:55:27.839 a billboard at this point. 0:55:27.920 --> 0:55:30.960 Oh bro, I feel like I'm luxury and that's really 0:55:31.080 --> 0:55:32.680 probably a regular person thing. 0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:34.799 But I'm like, now that's a lot. 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:37.879 That's better than they care, you. 0:55:37.800 --> 0:55:41.480 Know, I literally, but I brag about it, like and 0:55:41.520 --> 0:55:43.879 I'm pretty I saw some comedian talk about like how 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:46.640 when black people brag when they're rich, Asian people brag 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:48.600 wh they're rich, and how white people brag when they're rich, 0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.080 and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely the black person 0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:52.280 that was like, I pay two games. 0:55:53.400 --> 0:55:56.200 I try to find ways in a point where I'm 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:59.960 feeling a little inferior. Yeah, sometimes people you never know 0:56:00.040 --> 0:56:02.560 they making my like it's I can't explain it, but 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:04.360 there's moments where people will make you feel like you 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.560 don't belong in the room there. Yeah. Yeah, that's when 0:56:06.600 --> 0:56:09.600 I might do a little bit of really. Oh yeah, 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.279 I'm trying to think. The last time I haven't I 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.080 had this story. I told him horrible. It's on our 0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.840 Patreon where I came back from Paris and I was 0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:21.560 hanging in this Beyonce and jay Z party. It was 0:56:21.680 --> 0:56:23.920 very small, like thirty people, and after that you couldn't 0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:25.480 tell me shit. It was me and alex I was like, 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:28.759 fuck you bitch, and Mionce with like, you know, in 0:56:28.760 --> 0:56:32.040 the air together. So I just kept finding ways to 0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:34.360 bring it up. So we went to like some Spotify 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:36.800 dinner that week, and everybody's just like, oh, horrible decisions. 0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:39.680 Never heard of it. Yes, actually I've been to France, 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:44.960 not that you asked, was there whatever, but like I'd 0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:46.520 be trying to figure out a way, but I don't know. 0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.920 And I think that's kind of when you do have 0:56:50.120 --> 0:56:51.759 and I know that I came from something, so I 0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:53.359 just can't say it came from nothing. But like when 0:56:53.360 --> 0:56:55.239 you had that struggle, you want to know. You want 0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.160 people to know I belong here too, Yeah, because I 0:56:57.160 --> 0:56:59.640 have a lot of hell of privileged people that I 0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.520 know that don't really have that that driver or the 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:03.760 that that. 0:57:05.320 --> 0:57:07.880 They're the backstory, they don't need to. 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:12.520 Like I hang with this really rich girl sometimes when 0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.319 I'm in La, like grew up rich. I think our 0:57:15.360 --> 0:57:20.120 family's got a fucking castle somewhere. And I never really 0:57:20.760 --> 0:57:23.280 see her tell you anything about her life because she 0:57:23.400 --> 0:57:26.840 realizes it's so it's not part of her story. Yeah, 0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.800 like everything she's experienced isn't exciting. Like when I told 0:57:29.840 --> 0:57:32.720 her about the Beyonce and jay Z thing, She's like, 0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:35.840 oh yeah. I'm like, well you met them before. She's like, yeah, 0:57:35.840 --> 0:57:37.360 well I used to hang with the Arnall's when I 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:42.360 was a kid who own LVMA. That's hilarious And I'm like, okay, 0:57:42.440 --> 0:57:46.560 it's to know a bitch, But like you know, so, 0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:48.400 I'm like, oh, I wonder if it kind of shows 0:57:48.440 --> 0:57:50.960 that you don't really have much. But what I appreciate 0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:52.880 is like people that can enjoy with you like. The 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.120 first person I called after the Beyonce and jay Z 0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.600 night was Charlottmgne cover the bed with his wife, who 0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:59.560 was eleven thirty at night. Me and Alex are drunk 0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.720 in the street. I'm like, oh, I tell somebody, And 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:04.920 he was so excited and laughing and he's like, y'all 0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.360 in now. I'm like, brouh. The next time I see them, 0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:11.160 think they put it over the bitch for Paris and 0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:13.960 it's just this cool, exciting milestone. But maybe I will 0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:15.600 get to the place where it doesn't matter anymore. 0:58:15.600 --> 0:58:20.320 I don't know, hope not no, no, no no. So 0:58:20.600 --> 0:58:24.800 now that you've traveled the world, you owned companies, you're 0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:29.640 flying your family out, what advice would you give to someone. 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.040 That would even just in my shoes? You know? 0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:37.160 What advice would you give to someone that's playing hasn't 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.040 fully taken off the ground yet and they've been hovering 0:58:40.120 --> 0:58:41.040 for a long time. 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.520 I would say, thinking bigger than the biggest thing you're 0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:49.240 thinking of. I think that we sell ourselves short a lot. 0:58:49.520 --> 0:58:52.600 Whether it be I don't know. This is just made 0:58:52.600 --> 0:58:56.040 me thinking right. Eating While Broke is currently a podcast, 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:58.200 it seems like next up is TV show that seems 0:58:58.200 --> 0:58:59.040 like what that is? Right? 0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:02.479 But I also want to do touring, which eighty five 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:05.080 South has been like just do it, but Dolly's like 0:59:05.160 --> 0:59:08.360 hell no, and eighty five for South is like do 0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:09.160 that shit? 0:59:09.680 --> 0:59:10.800 Why does Dolly say now. 0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:14.440 She thinks I need to spend more time growing my 0:59:14.520 --> 0:59:19.080 audience like baby steps and then but I low key 0:59:19.240 --> 0:59:22.600 secretly want to do ice cube in LA, I would. 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:25.800 Tell you for this piece of advice, then I would say, 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:28.000 you do it in the middle. You do one show. 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:30.840 You do one show in your hometown or where your 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:33.640 largest base of audience is, and that's LA, right, I'm assuming. Yeah, 0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:35.800 So it's like you do your LA show. You don't tour, 0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.280 You do your LA show. You practice, you get your 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:40.480 biggest fan based there, you already have all your friends come. 0:59:40.600 --> 0:59:42.760 It's probably where all the talent you know is. So 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.840 you do it right there in LA. After you do that, 0:59:46.600 --> 0:59:49.360 then you kind of get your feet wet or the 0:59:49.480 --> 0:59:54.200 space is semi big. Make a Patreon or invite your 0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:58.880 top fans. Mit fifteen fans really and write fifteen fans, 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:02.360 have them sit and wid laugh with you. Uh, maybe 1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:04.760 put the ingredients out there and be like this is 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:06.800 what I got, y'all gonna help me make this meal? 1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:08.920 Maybe they just shout at you and they share stories 1:00:08.960 --> 1:00:09.160 with you. 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:12.800 When you guys did your Patreon, what were you what 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.120 was your first Like, did you even think you would 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:16.720 make money when you first did the patreon? 1:00:16.960 --> 1:00:20.120 No, we make way too much on Patreon now. I 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:23.880 mean I'm sure like there, you know, there's patreons bigger 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:25.320 than me. But like we did it before. I think 1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:27.360 we were one of the first black popular podcasts that 1:00:27.400 --> 1:00:29.800 we know on there. Like we had our first year 1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:33.400 of year seven, I mean the first year of your seven, 1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:35.080 and we only did it to make more money for 1:00:35.120 --> 1:00:37.120 the studio. Mandy and I were like, this shit costing 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:39.360 too much. We ain't making no money. A friend of 1:00:39.400 --> 1:00:41.440 mine was like, have you heard of l trapo trap 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.680 House something like that, It's like a white podcast. I 1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:45.800 was like no, He's like, they make like ninety round Patreon. 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:48.720 You should do You guys were like, dude, du what's 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:49.600 that right? 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:51.520 I mean, shit, we don't make ninety, but we do 1:00:51.640 --> 1:00:52.160 make twenty. 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:54.360 Get the hang out on Patreon mm hm. 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:59.040 Get the honest though our Patreon, Like we started a 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:02.080 high very early of people that really resonated with Mandy 1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:04.960 and I because we were corporate girls talking about sex 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:06.600 and it was kind of the life that if you 1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:08.280 didn't live it, you'd want to live it, or you 1:01:08.280 --> 1:01:11.000 could see yourself living it like host stories while like 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:14.000 being overdraft and are you know, being at your desk whatever. 1:01:14.520 --> 1:01:16.520 So we made Patreon. It was to get extra money 1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:19.880 for filming. I remember a thousand dollars a month feeling perfect. 1:01:20.040 --> 1:01:22.880 Hell, yeah that's not I know that sounds small. 1:01:23.720 --> 1:01:28.320 Yeah, So when it got higher, Mandy and I just 1:01:28.480 --> 1:01:31.840 started spelling more of our personal lives on Patreon, and 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:34.280 it became like we were just talking to fans instead 1:01:34.280 --> 1:01:37.280 of like doing a show. You know, like we have 1:01:37.360 --> 1:01:40.200 so so many guests now that people that really fucked 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:44.040 with Mandy and Wheezy they want Patreon. Like a lot 1:01:44.120 --> 1:01:47.440 of people enjoy those episodes more. I love like a 1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:50.000 better looking set, but I get it, Mandy and I'd 1:01:50.040 --> 1:01:52.080 be on zoom, I'd be hungover shit. I think I 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:54.400 was still mollied out on one episode. I was like, 1:01:54.400 --> 1:01:58.000 oh my god, you guys didn't save anyway, Like people 1:01:58.080 --> 1:02:00.400 like that shit when you're very raw, and so we 1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:03.040 offer that. So it's something different. But yeah, I wouldn't 1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:06.439 write your closest fans if it's not Patreon right now, 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:08.640 figure out where you talk to them the most, have 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:10.040 them come and watch. Well. 1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:13.040 I think this season is the most I've seen fans 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:15.600 reach out, which, by the way, I'm absolutely shocked. I'll 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:18.479 get a DM like please don't stop, please don't quit. 1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:20.040 We love this sir. 1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:23.040 Yeah, or like I promise you're asking the questions that 1:02:23.080 --> 1:02:25.600 we want you to hear, and I'll be like, thank 1:02:25.640 --> 1:02:28.360 you because I for sure had a shitty day today 1:02:28.400 --> 1:02:30.440 and I really want to jump off a bridge. But 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:34.240 that message just like literally, I know it's random, but 1:02:34.640 --> 1:02:38.680 you help them. Yeah, I'm like, you taketed the right time, 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.400 and I will respond that like, Yo, the timing couldn't 1:02:41.440 --> 1:02:44.480 have been better, thank you for saving my life. 1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:50.400 Fans too, like we look at other people's numbers and 1:02:51.240 --> 1:02:52.680 comparison is a thief and joy. 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:53.760 Oh, I definitely do. 1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:56.880 I'll be like, look at them, but you know now, 1:02:56.880 --> 1:02:59.480 I look at y'all, and I'll be like, take notes. 1:03:00.600 --> 1:03:03.360 Change when we're. 1:03:03.200 --> 1:03:06.320 In line to them, right, Like I remember when call 1:03:06.400 --> 1:03:09.040 her Daddy made the sixty thousand dollars DE sixty million, 1:03:10.400 --> 1:03:13.439 right and I was like, oh my god, I'll never 1:03:13.480 --> 1:03:15.400 get me. I was saying ship like that. I don't 1:03:15.440 --> 1:03:18.360 have that. I'm like this podcast makes how much? 1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:19.840 Like why am I talking like this? 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:23.000 You know? And we really have to pour into ourselves 1:03:23.040 --> 1:03:26.080 better because we always are looking at something else. I 1:03:26.200 --> 1:03:29.840 do it with my body doing my hair. Shit, I 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:31.400 was almost like, oh my god, my hair is not 1:03:31.480 --> 1:03:33.960 rain different. The got my hair, like thinking about all 1:03:34.000 --> 1:03:36.600 this little ship that doesn't fucking matter, and it's like 1:03:37.160 --> 1:03:39.280 we need to really learn how to be happy with 1:03:39.520 --> 1:03:54.600 ourselves because like I think social media has bucked me up. 1:03:56.360 --> 1:03:59.880 I'm getting way better at it, but like body, hair, 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:04.040 clothes and success, they're all the things I see on 1:04:04.080 --> 1:04:06.200 Instagram and think I'm not doing well enough with h 1:04:06.560 --> 1:04:09.400 and this is fucked up. But it did happen to me. 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:13.000 I went to solid Core, which is this like plate's 1:04:13.120 --> 1:04:16.600 ish cool thing to do. It's in La Chicago, New York, 1:04:16.640 --> 1:04:19.800 Big Cities, Atlanta, and there's a girl on Instagram I 1:04:19.800 --> 1:04:21.960 follow that. I always thought she was like so fucking 1:04:22.000 --> 1:04:24.720 insanely hot. When I was in the workout, she was 1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:26.680 right next to me and I recognized her halfway through. 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:30.080 She was really struggling, and it's not like it's something 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:31.960 to make fun of. You're already working out. But I 1:04:32.000 --> 1:04:34.120 got in the car and I thought, oh my god, 1:04:34.120 --> 1:04:36.360 I have I'm stronger than I thought. I was right. 1:04:36.440 --> 1:04:38.880 I'm looking at this girl all the time on my timeline, 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:40.440 thinking she's the baddest bitch in the world. And I 1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:42.600 had something like she even said to me. I was like, 1:04:42.680 --> 1:04:44.880 damn bitch, she was getting it right. We don't know 1:04:44.920 --> 1:04:46.960 each other, and I was like, wow, there's something we 1:04:47.040 --> 1:04:49.840 all have that someone else doesn't. So when you're looking 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:53.400 and you're thinking that, it's not shit me. I want 1:04:53.480 --> 1:04:57.400 kids so bad. Really, yes, I would love to have kids, 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:00.360 like I would love to have over to you. Oh 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:02.320 my mom would love to watch over. My mom love 1:05:02.360 --> 1:05:03.280 taking somebody's baby. 1:05:03.320 --> 1:05:04.760 Oh really, Oh she's in LA. 1:05:04.880 --> 1:05:06.840 That's perfect because I ain't got no family in I 1:05:06.920 --> 1:05:08.280 pay every minute a well. 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:10.160 Well, my mom will act like it's an inconvenience, but 1:05:10.200 --> 1:05:12.280 she can't wait to do it. Let me watch your baby, 1:05:13.240 --> 1:05:14.600 Colleen called me, and now I've got to watch this 1:05:14.680 --> 1:05:16.439 damn baby. Now'll get in the house, baby proud anyway, 1:05:16.480 --> 1:05:20.680 I'll talk to you later. Like she loves taking somebody's 1:05:20.720 --> 1:05:23.440 problems on her kids or anything, and like, yeah, but 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:24.400 I think about that. I think. 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:24.600 Uh. 1:05:24.960 --> 1:05:28.840 I was at a friend's kids graduation, her daughter graduately 1:05:28.880 --> 1:05:31.800 needs her, and I was like, like three people had 1:05:31.800 --> 1:05:33.640 asked me for a picture when I was in the auditorium, 1:05:34.640 --> 1:05:37.240 and I remember thinking like, I wonder if they think 1:05:37.280 --> 1:05:39.919 I'm like living this cool ass like but somebody was like, damn, 1:05:39.920 --> 1:05:41.800 you came from LA to be here. Someone said that 1:05:41.840 --> 1:05:43.760 to me, and I was like, when I could like 1:05:44.080 --> 1:05:45.680 die to be one of the parents in the front. 1:05:45.960 --> 1:05:49.040 Oh wow, But you never know, right, Like there's always 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:51.560 something we all want. I think we all need that 1:05:51.600 --> 1:05:53.520 little drama in our lives to keep going. 1:05:53.760 --> 1:05:56.080 You think so oh like the when you say drama, 1:05:56.160 --> 1:05:57.600 like the need to want something more? 1:05:58.440 --> 1:06:00.800 Yeah, how are we going to be an autopilot if 1:06:00.840 --> 1:06:02.320 we have all we want? Like what do you want? 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:03.000 Oh? 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:04.120 I want this guy's limit. 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:06.080 It's funny though, because I used to always want like 1:06:06.160 --> 1:06:08.040 the marriage and the baby, because I always felt like 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:10.640 I was good at business and then I just sucked 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:13.800 at personal. But now that I experienced marriage and the baby, 1:06:13.960 --> 1:06:16.760 I'm like, I think I'm gonna stay in my business 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:18.880 life because I suck at it. It's just like, yo, 1:06:18.960 --> 1:06:20.680 you know what, I have to chop it up to Like, 1:06:20.960 --> 1:06:23.400 it's just not my forte. I don't know why I 1:06:23.440 --> 1:06:25.320 can't master my personal but I could. 1:06:25.720 --> 1:06:28.320 It's tough. We all can't because it's not something you 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:29.080 can control. 1:06:29.400 --> 1:06:32.440 Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it because I feel like in business, 1:06:32.520 --> 1:06:34.560 like I will pivot the fuck if it's not working, 1:06:34.720 --> 1:06:39.200 pivot again, pivot again. But then in my personal I'd 1:06:39.200 --> 1:06:41.360 be like, oh, you went left. I don't even know 1:06:41.400 --> 1:06:41.919 what to say. 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:45.520 It's tough. Yeah, money we can control, Like I feel 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:47.120 like I can make a million dollars easier than I 1:06:47.120 --> 1:06:49.160 can find a good person to date. I mean, it's 1:06:49.200 --> 1:06:51.920 fucked up to say that, but I really do believe that. 1:06:51.960 --> 1:06:54.840 I feel like when it's things you can control, like 1:06:55.200 --> 1:06:57.880 you can't control money. Let's say, like right, like there's 1:06:57.880 --> 1:06:59.680 people out there that are working hard as fucking or 1:06:59.720 --> 1:07:02.840 not getting there, but like you could possibly take up 1:07:02.840 --> 1:07:05.320 another hustle to find somewhere money. Yeah, but I was 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:08.640 taking pictures out of Oo pizzeria on the side because 1:07:08.640 --> 1:07:10.920 they would give me one hundred dollars a night, okay 1:07:10.960 --> 1:07:13.640 for five hours, and I would just take pictures pictures, 1:07:13.680 --> 1:07:15.120 and I would flip them a little bit. You know 1:07:15.160 --> 1:07:16.920 what I'm saying, The pictures of fifteen, but i'd tell 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:21.160 people with twenty Yeah, yeah, that's like finding that hustle. 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:22.960 I was on Craigslist looking for gig jobs. That was 1:07:23.000 --> 1:07:24.720 a caddy girl one day. 1:07:24.960 --> 1:07:28.040 Like I told you that, But that's what I'm saying. Like, 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:30.800 do you think now do you think entrepreneurs are like 1:07:30.960 --> 1:07:33.160 born out the womb or do you think they could 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:35.360 go to college and then become an entrepreneur. 1:07:35.920 --> 1:07:39.720 I don't think entrepreneurs are for everyone, Yeah, because I 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:45.760 think it's too exhausting. Yeah, Like I think working a 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:47.920 nine to five, I think the goal for me, before 1:07:48.000 --> 1:07:50.960 realizing I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I wanted to 1:07:51.040 --> 1:07:53.240 make two fifty at a. 1:07:53.160 --> 1:07:55.120 Corporate t I'm still praying to hit that too fuch 1:07:55.120 --> 1:07:57.520 at a corporate job. Oh, at a corporate That to me. 1:07:57.480 --> 1:08:00.440 Would have made me not do anything else. Because the 1:08:00.480 --> 1:08:02.880 one seventy five was great. I was living a great 1:08:02.920 --> 1:08:05.600 apartment and traveling, but my parents needed help, and I 1:08:05.640 --> 1:08:07.240 was like, oh, I need more money for my parents. 1:08:07.600 --> 1:08:09.720 If I had two fifty, that's money I could have 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:11.200 to help them and if I want to have a kid, 1:08:11.240 --> 1:08:14.000 I can live in this money. But mind you in 1:08:14.040 --> 1:08:16.920 New York. Yeah yeah, like two fifty in another city 1:08:17.000 --> 1:08:17.880 might be a million dollars. 1:08:18.000 --> 1:08:18.400 Yeah. 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:21.759 My rent even then was twenty five d It's crazy. Yeah, 1:08:22.120 --> 1:08:25.560 But I say all that to say nine to fivers 1:08:25.680 --> 1:08:27.880 are making a lot more money than entrepreneurs. Yeah, you 1:08:27.920 --> 1:08:30.280 know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurs are out here really struggling. 1:08:30.360 --> 1:08:32.400 It's tough. But I think it's because some people are 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:34.439 chasing a dream that they think they should do when 1:08:34.439 --> 1:08:35.280 really that's not it. 1:08:36.400 --> 1:08:39.639 How would they identify the dream that is it though, 1:08:39.800 --> 1:08:41.320 and from the dream that isn't. 1:08:41.800 --> 1:08:44.960 I think one if it feels like a passion, are 1:08:45.000 --> 1:08:48.559 you happy doing it? Like? Are you doing it because 1:08:48.600 --> 1:08:50.639 you actually love this? Like? Why do you love making 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:51.400 eating while broke? 1:08:52.200 --> 1:08:56.080 I just love great rags to riches stories, Like I 1:08:56.120 --> 1:08:58.040 have some rich friends and they always tell me they 1:08:58.040 --> 1:09:00.479 were like in jail somewhere or they were on a 1:09:00.479 --> 1:09:03.680 ass somewhere, and I'm like, wait, you and you live 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:06.479 in the seven thousand square Foo mansion in La Oh, 1:09:06.680 --> 1:09:08.600 tell me more. And I just love it, like I 1:09:08.600 --> 1:09:12.280 would hang out and I just love the stories. I'd 1:09:12.280 --> 1:09:13.559 be like, okay, but you know. 1:09:13.800 --> 1:09:17.200 And I would say then with your audience and feeling inspired. 1:09:17.320 --> 1:09:19.760 But I was definitely lucky because I felt like the 1:09:19.800 --> 1:09:22.280 friends that I have, like if I'm like, damn, this 1:09:22.360 --> 1:09:24.560 bill was high, I'd be like, you wouldn't understand it, 1:09:24.640 --> 1:09:25.240 be like try me. 1:09:25.280 --> 1:09:26.760 I'd be like a thousand bucks to be like, Nope, 1:09:26.760 --> 1:09:27.439 that bill's high. 1:09:27.520 --> 1:09:27.720 You know. 1:09:28.600 --> 1:09:32.360 I'd really and they'd be like, no, it's high, you know. 1:09:32.560 --> 1:09:35.080 And so luckily I was fortunate to be with some 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:37.040 friends that really like that. 1:09:37.160 --> 1:09:39.040 I felt like, damn, you're hanging out with me. 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:40.880 Like if you and I hung out, I would be 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:43.960 lowkey geeked just because you have a great personality, but 1:09:43.960 --> 1:09:45.880 I would also be lowkey geeked because I'm like, I 1:09:46.000 --> 1:09:48.479 look up to you, like I definitely admire you, you know. 1:09:48.479 --> 1:09:50.760 I feel like that with people sometimes where I'm like, 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:55.920 are we like we're peers? Right? No matter if maybe 1:09:55.960 --> 1:09:58.080 like maybe my podcast has been going on longer than yours, 1:09:58.120 --> 1:10:00.000 you're like, oh, that's what I'm gonna get, Like it's 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:01.160 you appears. 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:03.559 Well you're more than just a pot Like in my eyes, 1:10:04.400 --> 1:10:07.080 well you and Mandy accomplished was great, but you gotta 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:10.320 think you're a beautiful, attractive woman in the entertainment industry. 1:10:10.400 --> 1:10:13.080 I have sidebar conversations all the time. I'll leave a meeting, 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:14.800 I'll be like, this person wants to fuck, and my 1:10:14.840 --> 1:10:16.400 friends will be like, how do you know, and be like, Bro, 1:10:16.880 --> 1:10:18.680 I've been in this game way too long. I can 1:10:18.720 --> 1:10:21.840 tell by the questions the hints they want to fuck, 1:10:21.920 --> 1:10:24.960 and then I gotta navigate that. So to be attractive woman. Okay, 1:10:25.439 --> 1:10:28.240 then you're an entertainment then you're an entrepreneurs. Then you're 1:10:28.320 --> 1:10:30.920 handling all this business. Then you're sale. When I hear sales, 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:33.120 nothing excites me, you know how you get when I 1:10:33.120 --> 1:10:34.960 hear a girl could sell, I'll be like, oh, this 1:10:35.000 --> 1:10:37.720 is a it says, this is a real, real time, 1:10:37.840 --> 1:10:41.599 you know. But so I look at someone like you 1:10:41.680 --> 1:10:43.679 and I'm like, yeah, I would definitely be in awe, 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:47.320 like you know, like you know geeks, and same with 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:49.599 my friends. Like I have my homie day storm, I'll 1:10:49.600 --> 1:10:51.760 hang out in his house or whatever. He literally will 1:10:51.760 --> 1:10:53.760 only hang out when we work out, which sucks because 1:10:53.840 --> 1:10:59.160 his workouts are absolutely, terrifyingly terriblely hard workouts. 1:10:59.640 --> 1:11:01.000 Were Like, if I want to have a talk a 1:11:01.040 --> 1:11:01.439 day storm. 1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:03.280 I'm like, I'll be at your house at four to 1:11:03.320 --> 1:11:05.839 work out and it'll be the worst workout of the century, 1:11:05.920 --> 1:11:09.439 you know, But I still look up to him, and 1:11:09.479 --> 1:11:11.800 I'll still be like geeked, Like yo, I could walk 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:14.280 into your house or borrow your house for the weekend, 1:11:14.400 --> 1:11:16.880 and but I even though we're friends, I still look 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:19.280 up to you, and you're vulnerable. But they're the real 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:24.120 inspiration behind my show. They're realize stories and realize advice. 1:11:23.880 --> 1:11:26.680 And honestly sharing that to the world and then you 1:11:26.840 --> 1:11:30.280 receiving that fan feedback and things like that, like having 1:11:30.360 --> 1:11:32.680 the passion that making you feel good learning in the 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:35.800 middle of your job. That's how you know you keep going, 1:11:36.320 --> 1:11:38.880 you know what I'm saying. But also, I think the 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:42.799 largest mistake entrepreneurs make is if they have a regular 1:11:42.840 --> 1:11:44.960 job or a steady gig, they leave it for the 1:11:45.000 --> 1:11:49.000 passion before the passion flourishes. Yeah, and I didn't do that, 1:11:49.080 --> 1:11:51.759 Like I was working eighty hours a week, doing horrible 1:11:51.840 --> 1:11:54.840 and you know, literally coming in with my suitcase to 1:11:54.880 --> 1:11:56.519 the office, like, oh, I went to go see my parents, 1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:58.920 But really, I had a fucking four hundred seat show 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:01.320 that we fill down and like that today is different. 1:12:01.320 --> 1:12:05.040 Now it's double right and it feels great, but like, nah, 1:12:05.040 --> 1:12:09.400 I had to do both. I think living in the 1:12:09.520 --> 1:12:14.559 entertainment industry today is interesting because it could be anybody, right, Like, 1:12:14.760 --> 1:12:16.880 influencers have really ruined fame? 1:12:17.760 --> 1:12:18.280 You think so? 1:12:18.640 --> 1:12:21.719 Yes, I guess I could see that. It's weird because 1:12:21.720 --> 1:12:24.000 I see, like I feel like they're self made and 1:12:24.040 --> 1:12:25.720 they work very hard, like when you look at the 1:12:25.720 --> 1:12:28.599 behind the scenes, they work hard. But I definitely will 1:12:28.640 --> 1:12:30.720 say I don't know. I would like to hear your 1:12:30.720 --> 1:12:31.559 perspective on it. 1:12:31.840 --> 1:12:39.600 I think influencers ruined fame because not saying that they're talentless, 1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:43.920 but content creation as a form of a talent. Like 1:12:45.160 --> 1:12:47.679 if the Internet is gone, then where do you take 1:12:47.720 --> 1:12:49.720 it and what do you do with it? You know, 1:12:49.760 --> 1:12:51.680 I have a big influencer that reached out to me. 1:12:52.120 --> 1:12:54.200 They're not going broke or anything like they're making like 1:12:54.479 --> 1:12:58.080 maybe thirty fortieth posts, but they reached out to me 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:00.479 and we're like, I need you to have dinner with 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:01.920 me or some shit and influence me to do some 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:05.040 other shit. Because I realized this is like just what 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:06.880 if Instagram doesn't want me to do ads anymore? What 1:13:06.920 --> 1:13:10.360 if Instagram stops advertisments for influencers, what if the hashtag 1:13:10.400 --> 1:13:12.680 goes away? Like she was terrified and it was when 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:15.080 TikTok was about to get banned or something, and I 1:13:15.200 --> 1:13:17.680 was like, damn. I'm like, I don't know half of 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:20.800 my nas year off of heigi ads. But she was right, 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:23.599 like I didn't do anything else. I've just been learning 1:13:23.600 --> 1:13:26.240 this one skill, and that shit is tough because, like, 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:28.280 I don't know, I wouldn't want my kids to be 1:13:28.320 --> 1:13:31.760 an influencer. I think it also inflates when I say 1:13:31.800 --> 1:13:35.240 the ruined fame, like you have movie stars, actors, actresses, 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:38.160 and even podcasters make fame to me, like it's not real. 1:13:38.800 --> 1:13:41.479 Well, I've seen people too that will get like ten 1:13:41.520 --> 1:13:44.200 thousand followers and they all already switch up. I'm like, yo, 1:13:44.240 --> 1:13:47.080 if your bank account still read zero, who gives a 1:13:47.120 --> 1:13:48.200 fuck about some likes? 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:51.120 But the same shit is weird because the likes and 1:13:51.160 --> 1:13:53.120 all this stuff makes you think you're better than you 1:13:53.160 --> 1:13:56.960 are when there's so many more of you, So you 1:13:57.000 --> 1:13:58.960 really have to find a thing that makes you different. 1:13:59.120 --> 1:14:02.120 Like honest, I follow so many girls that are just 1:14:02.200 --> 1:14:04.240 hot and kind of look the same because of their 1:14:04.240 --> 1:14:06.360 clothes or their workouts or whatever. I don't think I 1:14:06.400 --> 1:14:10.799 know their names. Really. No. I remember sitting at Lucy 1:14:10.840 --> 1:14:12.479 and it's my favorite restaurant New York. I always go 1:14:12.560 --> 1:14:14.800 there in the East Village and I was looking at 1:14:14.800 --> 1:14:17.040 this girl and I tapped her and I was like, 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:19.160 do I know you? Do we have a school together? 1:14:19.240 --> 1:14:22.240 Genuinely didn't know. I feel like I know you, And 1:14:22.280 --> 1:14:25.840 she was like, oh, I'm an influencer. I was like, 1:14:25.960 --> 1:14:28.400 maybe I follow you. What's your name? Didn't ring a bell? 1:14:28.960 --> 1:14:30.479 Looked at it and I was like, damn, I've been 1:14:30.479 --> 1:14:32.400 following this bitter a minute, but that's it. You're not 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:35.679 even connecting to the content. Yeah, because it's just grid 1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:38.519 post after grid post up or something something. That's why 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:42.720 people like just hilarious Drew Ski a Pretty V they 1:14:42.760 --> 1:14:45.559 fucking stick out because we know what they're doing. 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:49.120 Yeah and they yeah, but those are also like I know. 1:14:49.280 --> 1:14:51.760 Well, I'll say for Pretty V because we had her aunt, 1:14:51.880 --> 1:14:53.160 she's she's also hard. 1:14:53.520 --> 1:14:54.679 She's like a hustler too. 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:58.680 I would say she's she's more of an entrepreneur than 1:14:58.680 --> 1:15:01.280 an influencer, even though she started that way. 1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:03.400 You know you could. I feel the same with like 1:15:03.479 --> 1:15:05.200 be simone, but something. 1:15:04.880 --> 1:15:06.439 That I have, something that they do. 1:15:06.520 --> 1:15:09.559 But I will say I honestly say like and it 1:15:09.600 --> 1:15:12.439 could be just me vibed, but I would say almost 1:15:12.560 --> 1:15:17.280 ninety percent of my guests have true integrity. There's somewhere 1:15:17.320 --> 1:15:20.000 I'll be like after interview reps, I'll be like, wow, 1:15:20.040 --> 1:15:24.040 I called bullshit and I won't say who, but there 1:15:24.080 --> 1:15:26.320 was a couple episodes where my team I'll be like, damn, 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:29.160 that was a bullshit, meaning like they looked bigger than 1:15:29.200 --> 1:15:31.040 what they were. And then when I got in, I 1:15:31.160 --> 1:15:33.080 was like, you don't know your shit, you're a fake. 1:15:33.520 --> 1:15:35.120 Maybe some people just get lucky. 1:15:35.400 --> 1:15:38.040 They got lucky, or they didn't name drop like hey, 1:15:38.080 --> 1:15:40.360 your baby mama helped you, or your mom helped you. 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:42.439 Why wouldn't you give them the credit that they deserved. 1:15:43.080 --> 1:15:45.919 Strange when people don't credit those that helped along the way. 1:15:46.080 --> 1:15:47.719 I think it's completely strange. 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:48.519 Do you know one of them? 1:15:48.920 --> 1:15:50.720 By the way, if you're on my show and I 1:15:50.840 --> 1:15:53.479 catch it, I won't say it in front of the guests, 1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:55.519 but I will go me even the show raps, I'll 1:15:55.520 --> 1:15:58.679 be like, I called bullshit. They left out somebody because 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:01.640 their story isn't adding up and I will literally you 1:16:01.640 --> 1:16:03.519 could ask my crew, I will. 1:16:03.360 --> 1:16:07.600 Be wait, it was mine, the sugar daddy. 1:16:07.080 --> 1:16:09.519 Your story was as real as they get. 1:16:09.560 --> 1:16:12.120 But you know, you know you could tell because they'll 1:16:12.120 --> 1:16:14.320 be a missing gap. You know, they'll be like some 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:16.280 part of the story where you'd be like that that 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:18.400 doesn't line up, there's something missing there. 1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:21.320 I can always tell because I like, well, you. 1:16:21.240 --> 1:16:23.800 Know, sometimes the struggle isn't what people like to show, 1:16:23.880 --> 1:16:25.639 right the highlight reels that they need. 1:16:25.520 --> 1:16:27.840 To show the struggle on this show. On this show, 1:16:27.880 --> 1:16:31.559 you gotta tell me to credit your wife. 1:16:31.840 --> 1:16:33.680 If you're not giving other people their flower, it never 1:16:33.720 --> 1:16:37.080 takes from you. I was gonna say to you, Charlott 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:38.920 MANE makes me do that more than anyone like. It 1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:41.679 makes me thank my team so much. Like I've never 1:16:41.760 --> 1:16:45.320 seen anyone be so gracious towards those around him, even 1:16:45.360 --> 1:16:47.920 when I pay him a compliment, just no one else 1:16:47.960 --> 1:16:50.920 around Damn you kill this shit man. 1:16:51.040 --> 1:16:55.559 That was some So I'm like, oh, okay, I've never 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:57.160 really I've seen Charlomagye one time. 1:16:57.200 --> 1:16:59.040 So I literally saw him, was like, thank you so 1:16:59.120 --> 1:17:00.200 much for everything you do for me. 1:17:00.479 --> 1:17:03.559 Have a good day. Wait, you just met him in Atlanta. 1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:05.479 Yeah, that was it, and that's all I said was 1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:06.240 thank you. 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:12.240 What every Christian famous person like normal and authentic. And 1:17:13.040 --> 1:17:15.479 I think I made a joke on a podcast and 1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:17.840 I tested it once. I was like, man like, they 1:17:17.840 --> 1:17:21.320 were like, who do you think is someone that you've 1:17:21.360 --> 1:17:23.799 met that's a celebrity that you expected to be different? 1:17:24.360 --> 1:17:26.360 I was like, Charlotte answers the phone every time. I 1:17:26.360 --> 1:17:28.920 think it's very strange. Yeah, because you're so like he's 1:17:28.920 --> 1:17:31.680 literally answered. I could hear him at the breakfast what's up? 1:17:31.680 --> 1:17:35.679 He's monnies me, Like, just really wants to make sure 1:17:35.720 --> 1:17:38.080 he's accessible to people that he cares about. And I 1:17:38.080 --> 1:17:41.559 think that's what's inspired me to be a really good 1:17:42.280 --> 1:17:45.439 leader and just all around good person when it comes 1:17:45.479 --> 1:17:48.200 to people that have paved the way, because like, we 1:17:48.280 --> 1:17:51.639 don't see that, we see a lot of I I I, yeah, 1:17:51.680 --> 1:17:52.120 you know. Well. 1:17:52.160 --> 1:17:54.479 Also, I think the cool thing about him is that 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:58.599 he has like all black woman team pretty much, and 1:17:58.640 --> 1:17:59.800 he treats all those women great. 1:17:59.800 --> 1:18:02.760 Because I worked for other people and with other people. 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:04.960 In the industry and it ain't like that it's more 1:18:04.960 --> 1:18:07.280 of the boy's club. I see the boys getting blessed 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:08.679 and the woman getting dirty. 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:12.280 And Charlemagne is very much again an authentic person. Yeah, 1:18:12.320 --> 1:18:14.639 Like I heard him on a I had a call 1:18:14.680 --> 1:18:19.040 with him for something else, and the other person on 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:22.280 the other end of the call was very like, what's 1:18:22.320 --> 1:18:25.120 the word I'm looking for, almost like a shell of 1:18:25.120 --> 1:18:27.440 themselves trying to show you how great they are. Charlamagne 1:18:27.479 --> 1:18:31.400 was in a T shirt in South Carolina, I think 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:33.840 visiting family, or maybe he was outside of his crib, 1:18:34.160 --> 1:18:35.759 but he was like on a chair on a porch, 1:18:36.000 --> 1:18:38.360 just looking like he was chilling, and everybody else is 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:40.400 suited up, and he's like, y'all are so lucky for 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:41.760 me to be on this call. Just I could tell 1:18:41.800 --> 1:18:44.160 you that's what he's thinking. And he's so much of 1:18:44.240 --> 1:18:47.639 himself and still giving you gems. And I was like, Wow, 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:49.800 he didn't even feel the need to like do it 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:52.720 up for some Hollywood people. Yeah, because he knows like this, 1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:56.680 his brand is so raw, and I think we have 1:18:56.800 --> 1:19:00.160 to be that way. We can't try to be this 1:19:00.200 --> 1:19:02.880 person that we think other people would like, because they'll 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:05.000 smell it just like you do. You know what I'm saying. 1:19:05.000 --> 1:19:06.920 People smell that all day every day. You could be 1:19:06.960 --> 1:19:09.160 a casual listener that's in that YouTube that's like this 1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:09.920 person's a liar. 1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:11.080 Yeah, people clock it. 1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:13.719 And for you to know that as someone that's bringing 1:19:13.720 --> 1:19:16.599 these people in, like, I think that says a lot. 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:18.200 Yeah. 1:19:19.120 --> 1:19:22.160 Yeah, Eventually we'll get to the space where there's like 1:19:22.439 --> 1:19:25.040 I can actually call bullshit on the mic. I'm not 1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:28.040 there yet, I know, but there have been a couple 1:19:28.040 --> 1:19:28.679 where I'm like. 1:19:29.120 --> 1:19:31.800 Bull shit, what about you? 1:19:31.840 --> 1:19:35.559 Being like, there's got to be a oh I go 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:38.200 in and you can tell because they won't answer the question, 1:19:38.439 --> 1:19:40.880 And that's how I know it's bullshit. I'll be like, Okay, 1:19:40.920 --> 1:19:43.799 you're just boying. I'll ask seven different ways. I'm like, Okay, 1:19:43.960 --> 1:19:45.760 I call bullshit, but I won't say it on the 1:19:45.800 --> 1:19:47.200 mic yet. I'm not there yet. 1:19:47.439 --> 1:19:51.880 Plus I gotcha host, They're like, oh, like be there 1:19:51.880 --> 1:19:52.400 for the moment. 1:19:52.760 --> 1:19:53.080 Yeah. 1:19:53.120 --> 1:19:57.080 And then also like there's the uncomfortable space, you know 1:19:57.240 --> 1:19:59.560 with our shows, like we dig into the vulnerability a 1:19:59.560 --> 1:20:04.000 little bit deep, and I like to say to everybody 1:20:04.080 --> 1:20:06.080 it's a safe space. Like if I think there's something 1:20:06.120 --> 1:20:07.960 that you're going to say on our show that I 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:10.560 think is going to ruin your career or cancel you do. 1:20:10.560 --> 1:20:12.839 You don't even have to send your publicists or whoever 1:20:12.880 --> 1:20:14.880 over to like, oh my god, Colleen or beg me, 1:20:15.360 --> 1:20:17.720 I'm gonna remove it just on game. I'm just you 1:20:17.800 --> 1:20:18.599 shared your story. 1:20:18.800 --> 1:20:22.559 I completely agree with you. I think that keeping those 1:20:22.560 --> 1:20:26.080 moments like I've seen Megan James, I mean, I don't 1:20:26.120 --> 1:20:28.160 want to talk too much shit. She's spent some money 1:20:28.160 --> 1:20:33.559 about WTS Studio, but there's some clips where I'm like, WHOA, yeah, 1:20:33.960 --> 1:20:36.880 you know, like I'm kind of surprised you invite someone 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:38.640 in your space to like do that. 1:20:38.960 --> 1:20:39.200 M h. 1:20:39.760 --> 1:20:42.280 And she's just sticking out of my mind right now. 1:20:42.320 --> 1:20:45.240 I'm not saying she's like a terrible person, but it's 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:50.639 a it's a style interviewing that works for her. Maybe 1:20:50.640 --> 1:20:52.680 she's on more streams than almost who knows, But like, 1:20:52.800 --> 1:20:54.000 I don't know if I could do it. 1:20:54.200 --> 1:20:56.280 That's how I feel about honestly, like Jason Lee, to 1:20:56.320 --> 1:20:57.880 be honest, I feel like some of the stuff he'd 1:20:57.920 --> 1:20:59.320 be doing, I'll be like, well maybe, And I have 1:20:59.320 --> 1:21:01.640 this conversation my little brother all the time, and I'm 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:04.200 always like, ego, maybe maybe I should sell out, Like 1:21:04.240 --> 1:21:06.320 because I look at such and such kind of like 1:21:06.360 --> 1:21:08.000 how you look at social media, be like, look at 1:21:08.040 --> 1:21:11.720 this person. It's like they're really honestly, like they don't 1:21:11.720 --> 1:21:14.040 give a fuck about anybody's career, you know, and then 1:21:14.080 --> 1:21:15.680 they Jason Lee. 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:18.240 At Charlemagne back in the day, I'm Magan James. I 1:21:18.280 --> 1:21:19.519 think you know what you're getting when you go on 1:21:19.520 --> 1:21:24.040 the door. Yeah, And I think people almost it's like 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:26.920 ze Way. People would say, how the fuck does anyone 1:21:27.000 --> 1:21:27.679 keep going on there? 1:21:27.760 --> 1:21:29.760 Like, you know, I don't know what ze Way is, but. 1:21:29.840 --> 1:21:31.559 You don't know what she's the black girl that had 1:21:31.560 --> 1:21:33.679 the show on Showtime where she would ask people questions 1:21:33.680 --> 1:21:37.599 and like should Julia Fox. Charlemagne was a guest on there. 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:38.880 What was her famous one? 1:21:39.880 --> 1:21:41.000 But what was she ask them? 1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:43.920 She would just ask them questions that would make them 1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:47.559 look bad. Oh really, Like she showed Charlemgne a diagram 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:49.160 and had them point out someone She was like, oh 1:21:49.200 --> 1:21:51.080 so you think that white people are superior type shit? 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:52.960 Oh okay, But like it's like she was one of 1:21:52.960 --> 1:21:55.800 those and I think like people prepare themselves for those 1:21:56.080 --> 1:21:57.679 funny Marco. I don't know how people. 1:21:57.520 --> 1:21:59.599 Say what that nerves is that the one is where 1:21:59.640 --> 1:22:02.880 the guy just says like insulting things or something kind 1:22:02.880 --> 1:22:05.519 of yeah, because I saw that show and I was like, look, 1:22:05.560 --> 1:22:07.400 I just love that show period. 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:08.479 Like it's content. 1:22:08.720 --> 1:22:10.400 Yeah, it's content is very good. 1:22:10.520 --> 1:22:12.920 I think maybe it's just content that I can't make. 1:22:13.000 --> 1:22:15.200 But yeah, you know, it's hard for me to push 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:18.840 unless I think something's wrong, like I do Man on 1:22:18.840 --> 1:22:21.920 the Street for my TV show a lot. Yesterday, this 1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:23.880 guy talked about how he had a nether girl to 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:25.719 work or do something, and I was like, he's black. 1:22:26.200 --> 1:22:27.439 Oh what kind of girls you day? And he's like, 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:30.679 I prefer white. And then I can see the camera 1:22:30.760 --> 1:22:34.519 crewisers in the back, like oh, like really he was like, yeah, 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:36.400 I just updated a black girl and they're really crazy. 1:22:36.600 --> 1:22:38.439 I was like, okay, so have you ever met a Karen? 1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:41.960 Were like, well, I don't think that type of way. 1:22:42.000 --> 1:22:44.760 Oh, but there are crazy white women, but i'tely right now. 1:22:44.840 --> 1:22:49.160 My future ex husband he loves white women. But his 1:22:49.240 --> 1:22:54.080 thing is that black women's standards are are higher or like, 1:22:54.520 --> 1:22:57.160 they're not as easy as a white girl, and so 1:22:57.240 --> 1:22:58.719 he lives for the white girls. 1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:00.679 He lives that girl. 1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:02.519 Literally only cheated I mean a white women, to the 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:06.439 point that I was like, yeah, you must you're dating me, 1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:09.200 so your mom is happy. Yeah, And then I realized, oh, 1:23:09.200 --> 1:23:10.240 maybe I was just light. 1:23:10.120 --> 1:23:14.240 Skinning up, Like, do you This is completely random, but 1:23:14.280 --> 1:23:16.160 I have a pet peeve about dating a guy that 1:23:16.280 --> 1:23:17.479 only dates mixed girls. 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:18.559 I can't do it. 1:23:18.640 --> 1:23:19.360 I haven't pissed. 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:20.559 I feel like you haven't. 1:23:20.840 --> 1:23:23.560 Only I didn't know, Like you don't know until. 1:23:23.280 --> 1:23:25.200 You don't know, but when you find I know. 1:23:25.280 --> 1:23:27.120 For me, I just feel like there's a little bit 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:29.720 of colorism issues there, Like dudes that are like. 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:32.840 I only like light skin I'm like, all right, I 1:23:32.840 --> 1:23:33.960 don't know, that's weird. 1:23:34.000 --> 1:23:36.320 But I started to think when my ex husband my 1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:41.720 future that maybe he maybe he genuinely just likes white 1:23:41.760 --> 1:23:44.280 girls and he's just saying that as like a cover up. 1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:46.840 No, I think you're right. 1:23:47.160 --> 1:23:52.760 He's like, hey, she light white in a different light, Yeah, 1:23:52.800 --> 1:23:56.080 exactly on some real shit. I think it's kind of 1:23:56.120 --> 1:23:58.240 scary because you really have to clock them as light 1:23:58.240 --> 1:24:00.240 skinn people. You gotta clock them as mixed girls like 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.640 this shit is not cute for like a man that 1:24:02.680 --> 1:24:05.080 you're dating to only date. I had a guy tell 1:24:05.120 --> 1:24:08.360 me once that I was acting dark skin He told 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:11.280 me it was crazy that my hair wasn't super curly 1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:13.880 like most mixed girls. Wow. And he was like, you 1:24:13.920 --> 1:24:16.720 talk different. Wow. Yeah I don't. 1:24:16.320 --> 1:24:21.120 Like Yeah, I don't. I won't. I won't. 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:23.960 Well right now, thank god, I'm like one hundred percent 1:24:24.000 --> 1:24:26.000 focused on not dating, which is this is the longest 1:24:26.000 --> 1:24:26.839 I've ever been seeing. 1:24:26.840 --> 1:24:28.519 That's when they be coming too. I'll be trying to 1:24:28.520 --> 1:24:30.080 act like I'm not focused on dating. I'll walk in 1:24:30.120 --> 1:24:33.040 the club and be like, I'm not looking for anyone. 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:37.439 I like how you be positioned in it too. 1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:41.360 I want to date so bad man, but it's it's tough, 1:24:41.439 --> 1:24:42.560 and honestly. 1:24:42.920 --> 1:24:46.040 How do you juggle a breakup with a with a business. Honestly, 1:24:46.160 --> 1:24:46.800 I'm terrible. 1:24:46.840 --> 1:24:48.720 If it wasn't for my high school friends scooping me 1:24:48.760 --> 1:24:53.080 off the floor behind closed doors. Girl, he's gonna be okay, 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:55.640 you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't responsibilities, like 1:24:55.760 --> 1:24:56.479 hate to get more of it. 1:24:56.640 --> 1:24:58.200 But the only things that have kept me from killing 1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:00.720 myself is my dog and my team. And it's not 1:25:00.760 --> 1:25:04.840 because they're encouraging me to stay, you know. And it's like, hey, 1:25:04.880 --> 1:25:06.559 we need you to be alive so we can make money. 1:25:06.760 --> 1:25:08.720 But like, literally, I think about them and I'm like, 1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:10.719 one of the people that worked for me I recently 1:25:10.760 --> 1:25:13.840 found out used to be homeless and thanks me all 1:25:13.880 --> 1:25:15.639 the time for being able to do things for their 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:19.880 mother now and like it's fucking wild. I get random 1:25:19.880 --> 1:25:21.680 texts from a lot of our staff at two in 1:25:21.720 --> 1:25:23.240 the morning, love working with you, and I'm like, all 1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:26.439 these niggas is wrong and it's such a good feeling. 1:25:27.439 --> 1:25:28.960 But I think about that. I think about that when 1:25:28.960 --> 1:25:31.280 I'm getting down on myself, like how dare you? Yeah, 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:33.680 you know what I mean, Like you are helping all 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:35.559 of these people. I'm gonna leave my parents alone in 1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:38.200 the world. And when I tell you, my dog no bullshit. 1:25:38.320 --> 1:25:40.240 I was just being trauma queen one day. I was 1:25:40.240 --> 1:25:42.000 like I don't be here anymore, and I looked at her. 1:25:42.000 --> 1:25:45.080 I was like, who's gonna feed me up with those 1:25:45.160 --> 1:25:47.720 little things? Like really got to bring you back. But 1:25:48.120 --> 1:25:50.479 when running those businesses, I'm sure for people that are 1:25:50.479 --> 1:25:53.320 listening that only have themselves, you probably feel like, well, 1:25:53.320 --> 1:25:57.800 who do I fight for? You? Fight for your future self? Yeah? Right, 1:25:59.000 --> 1:26:03.360 Everything is moment, Harry. When you're broke, it's momentary. Sometimes 1:26:03.360 --> 1:26:05.080 when you get in a big check, it might be momentary, 1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:07.040 Like everything is kind of momentary. It's just that feeling 1:26:07.120 --> 1:26:09.839 that will last for a little bit, as strong emotions 1:26:09.920 --> 1:26:11.960 only for a little bit, even when you're crazy in love. 1:26:11.960 --> 1:26:13.760 It just kind of lasts for a period of time. 1:26:14.280 --> 1:26:17.040 And I think that when we are down, we feel 1:26:17.040 --> 1:26:19.160 like it's the end. But you've gotta have faith in 1:26:19.160 --> 1:26:19.920 your future self. 1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:24.599 Yeah, I like that. I'm a personally remember that. No, 1:26:24.600 --> 1:26:28.080 now that I have Zariyah, my daughter, I'm like, yo, 1:26:28.120 --> 1:26:31.200 if you leave and you the number one gangst the 1:26:31.280 --> 1:26:34.519 soldier for her, ain't nobody gonna go harder for ze 1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:35.040 than you? 1:26:35.720 --> 1:26:39.240 Then then what's she gonna have? And I'm like, shit, 1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:42.880 I guess, I guess that's it, you know what I'm saying. 1:26:42.920 --> 1:26:44.559 But I do think too though. 1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:46.360 Sometimes when you are having a bad day and you 1:26:46.400 --> 1:26:48.280 have all these responsibilities, I'll. 1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:49.760 Be like, well, how can I go? I got like 1:26:49.880 --> 1:26:52.559 sixteen things planned next week that I have to get done. 1:26:52.640 --> 1:26:54.320 I can't even take the one day off. 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:58.080 This is why they said they all done. There say 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:00.240 this thing about how you have to have something over 1:27:00.280 --> 1:27:05.720 two week month. No, I think next days, week or month. 1:27:05.760 --> 1:27:07.960 I can't remember what it is, but it's basically so 1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:10.080 that you don't get to where you feel like you 1:27:10.120 --> 1:27:12.799 have nothing. There has to be something on the calendar, 1:27:12.840 --> 1:27:15.439 whether it be a workout, whether it be a nail, 1:27:15.800 --> 1:27:17.960 something you scheduled for yourself. Even if it's not a trip, 1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:20.519 it's dinner at a cool place. You gotta have something 1:27:20.520 --> 1:27:23.360 because if you don't have that, then you feel hopeless, 1:27:23.800 --> 1:27:25.800 like we need to have those things. My mother actually 1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:28.280 gets like that. My mom's in her seventies. She gets 1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:29.120 so bored. 1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:31.160 I can't wait to bring the riots to your mom. 1:27:31.280 --> 1:27:36.200 Oh my god, baby to bad. She does it with 1:27:36.360 --> 1:27:39.240 random people in like restaurants, especially if they're like black 1:27:39.280 --> 1:27:42.400 and cool. She just be looking at the baby. She 1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:45.040 won't talk either. She'll just start to do this while 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:47.880 the mom's eating it's fine, and then keep talking to me. 1:27:47.880 --> 1:27:54.080 And I'm like, oh, weezy, it was such a good 1:27:54.120 --> 1:27:56.880 time having you that I hope that now that you're 1:27:56.880 --> 1:27:58.639 in LA, or when you pop in LA, you. 1:27:58.640 --> 1:27:59.160 Hit me up. 1:28:00.240 --> 1:28:02.600 Please do and hopefully you know if you pass a 1:28:02.680 --> 1:28:04.240 rich dude and you want to pull me to my 1:28:04.280 --> 1:28:08.360 first school, I want to. I want to experience I've 1:28:08.400 --> 1:28:10.960 never done it girl arrangement. 1:28:11.600 --> 1:28:13.559 I will. I'm serious. 1:28:13.560 --> 1:28:14.839 I want to chugger at the website. 1:28:14.880 --> 1:28:15.320 I want to. 1:28:15.520 --> 1:28:17.040 I'm gonna check it out and I'm gonna be texting 1:28:17.040 --> 1:28:18.800 you girl. You would not believe it. 1:28:19.880 --> 1:28:23.960 Financial domination, Financial domination. You got to make people feel 1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:26.240 like shiit online and they just send you money for 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:26.680 doing it. 1:28:26.840 --> 1:28:30.160 Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up all these pay picks, 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.560 pay picks, but thank you for taking time out of 1:28:35.600 --> 1:28:38.040 be a crazy schedule to come visit and cook for 1:28:38.160 --> 1:28:42.080 me before we close out? Can you tell everybody all 1:28:42.080 --> 1:28:44.960 the different assets that you have and how to keep 1:28:45.040 --> 1:28:45.439 up with you. 1:28:45.680 --> 1:28:48.200 Yeah, I'm on tour right now, Horrible Decisions. This is 1:28:48.200 --> 1:28:51.320 our final tours, the climax. We're not breaking up. We 1:28:51.479 --> 1:28:53.920 just really are like, touring is a lot of work. 1:28:54.000 --> 1:28:56.040 Can't do it. So check us out on her hive 1:28:56.080 --> 1:28:58.680 dot com and Horrible Decisions. Visit if you're an up 1:28:58.720 --> 1:29:01.599 and coming podcaster of a studio in New York and LA. 1:29:01.640 --> 1:29:04.120 It's super affordable. You can literally record for sixty bucks 1:29:04.120 --> 1:29:06.320 if you wanted to, or a thousand if you're rich. 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:09.960 And my TV show Sex, I was confused stream that 1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:14.200 motherfucker because that's the place that got the most mouthed 1:29:14.200 --> 1:29:17.400 to be so really just literally sit in streaming, not 1:29:17.520 --> 1:29:18.320 really help. 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:20.519 No, I want to watch it. 1:29:20.520 --> 1:29:21.240 It's really fun. 1:29:21.320 --> 1:29:22.760 Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it. 1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:25.679 It's a cute show. I go to a brothel this season. 1:29:25.720 --> 1:29:28.240 It's not out yet, but I've become a processing really. 1:29:28.320 --> 1:29:29.559 Oh yeah, I sat down with a client. 1:29:29.720 --> 1:29:31.639 Oh, I'm definitely watching it was crazy. 1:29:31.840 --> 1:29:34.280 My favorite episode of all time on there was when 1:29:34.280 --> 1:29:37.280 my mom did phone sex. That was crazy. 1:29:37.840 --> 1:29:39.680 I feel like I would be greatest phone sex by 1:29:39.720 --> 1:29:42.920 the way, maybe you would, I would. I would be phenomenal. 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:45.120 Just so I covered the business that does it. She 1:29:45.160 --> 1:29:46.799 teaches women how to keep them on the phone. 1:29:46.960 --> 1:29:49.240 And like, I was in a celibate relationship, so I 1:29:49.280 --> 1:29:49.959 will say. 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:53.360 I just got out of a simular relationship. 1:29:53.520 --> 1:29:56.240 Really, I hated it, and I absolutely hated it. 1:29:56.360 --> 1:29:58.760 I undred and then I got with my husband, who 1:29:58.880 --> 1:30:01.120 was like the opposite, just a SuperH and I was like. 1:30:01.320 --> 1:30:02.479 This is the best. 1:30:02.520 --> 1:30:05.200 But it came out of a celibate relationship and ran 1:30:05.360 --> 1:30:06.360 right to the opposite. 1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:07.800 Oh no, yeah, you. 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:09.000 Need to do three times a week. 1:30:09.320 --> 1:30:13.879 Yeah, But thank y'all for tuning in to another episode 1:30:13.880 --> 1:30:17.479 of Eating while Broke. I'm your girl. Colleen, and this 1:30:17.680 --> 1:30:19.559 is Wheezy, Bye y'all. 1:30:19.560 --> 1:30:19.880 Bye. 1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:43.920 For more eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect, 1:30:44.040 --> 1:30:47.639 visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 1:30:47.680 --> 1:30:48.799 to your favorite shows,