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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Colleen Witt, and today we have a

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Speaker 1: very special TV host, entrepreneur podcaster that Beach exactly very

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Speaker 1: special guests I do.

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Speaker 2: We just have to end up bleeping them out for sol.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe about your social No?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, well I heard it.

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Speaker 2: It messes with the algorithms.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's probably true.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's why we haven't.

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Speaker 1: Weezy is from Horrible Decisions. She also has a TV

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Speaker 1: show called Sex Cells, and she.

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Speaker 2: Is an entrepreneur.

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Speaker 1: She owns podcast recording studios in New York. And am

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Speaker 1: I missing a market?

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Speaker 3: Not yet? If you recorded me in two months, you would.

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Speaker 1: Be okay hopefully, Alana and I real know, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: but I'm really excited to have Weezy. I met you

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Speaker 1: probably over a year ago and literally like, I just

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Speaker 1: I love everything you're about and I plan to take notes.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, but what do you have us eating as

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Speaker 2: your broke dish today?

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Speaker 3: Well, my broke dish today is gourmet maca cheese because

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Speaker 3: I feel like, well, gourmet meat and macajeese because I

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Speaker 3: don't like to say hot dogs. It sounds cheap and

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Speaker 3: the meal is cheap. But like when broke, I was like,

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Speaker 3: I need to feel full fast, and I always thought

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Speaker 3: that was like a protein and carbs, and so hot

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Speaker 3: dogs and macaroni and cheese like the easiest thing, even

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Speaker 3: though by itself, I feel like it tastes like shit.

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Speaker 3: So I just tried to dress it up what I had. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I saw that.

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Speaker 1: I saw these extra ingredients, and I didn't know which

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Speaker 1: direction your meal was going. So for our listeners, can

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Speaker 1: you say what.

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Speaker 2: Is in the gourmet meg cheese?

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be real with you. Allive oil is

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Speaker 3: very expensive when your rope like this is what eight

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Speaker 3: dollars for this? Maybe ten? Probably? Yeah, So I would

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Speaker 3: use criscal but virgin olive oil. Lorry I don't know

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Speaker 3: how to say his name, but Tony.

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Speaker 1: Shiericus, I just call it Tony seasoning, Tony creole.

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Speaker 3: So we have the mixing bowls. I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: Oh I thought you were gonna drain the mac and

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Speaker 2: cheese water.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I didn't even have a bad I didn't

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Speaker 3: have a what's it called. I would take the top

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Speaker 3: pour it out.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we usually do that on the show. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this is just a fruit strainer.

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Speaker 2: But go on, what's the ingredients.

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Speaker 3: I like Nathan's. I'm not sure why. Hebrew National wasn't

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Speaker 3: my thing, but Nathan's was like the skinny ones. Like Nathan's,

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Speaker 3: We've got the cutting board of the knife so that

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Speaker 3: you could slice up the hot dogs, onions, butter, and milk. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Now it's funny because I've done mac and cheese before.

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Speaker 1: In my greatest accomplishment was adding tuna to the mac

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Speaker 1: and cheese. Okay, but I am excited because there's so much.

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Speaker 3: Don't go together. So I think it's loster mac and

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Speaker 3: cheese and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I was broke. I didn't. I don't even know.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 1: But but no, I'm excited because this is my first

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Speaker 1: time ever in the history of living on this earth,

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Speaker 1: having gourmet mac and cheese.

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Speaker 2: And it's really cool.

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Speaker 3: You know what I actually put in my grame?

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Speaker 2: Look you getting all hyped into it?

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Speaker 3: What what? Okay? Now that I'm getting money when I

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Speaker 3: make gromet mac and cheese for overall, I put like

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Speaker 3: five different type of cheeses in it, and I put

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Speaker 3: a little bit of beer whenever I Yes, I can't

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Speaker 3: remember where I learned about the beer from but it's

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Speaker 3: something about the yeast and the beer. Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: you can taste it. It's so good. Beer costs extra money,

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Speaker 3: so I felt like I shouldn't added that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, but that's your But you now that you

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Speaker 2: A still a twist the gourmet maga cheer.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're hilarious. My mom hates it. She's like,

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Speaker 3: this is so ridiculous because every Thanksgiving we have hers,

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Speaker 3: then mine is the bougie back.

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Speaker 2: And you're mixed, right, So is your mom black?

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Speaker 3: My mom is black and my dad's is really okay,

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Speaker 3: maybe it should be Hebrew national.

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Speaker 2: You're hilarious.

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Speaker 1: My dad is Jewish and my mom is Jamaican. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, that's crazy, all right.

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Speaker 2: You always see the other PEO was like.

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Speaker 3: You're like black and Jewish. You're like Drake.

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Speaker 2: Well, it used to be Lenny was the big thing

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Speaker 2: back in the day.

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Speaker 3: People don't know nothing, you not these young kids.

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Speaker 2: But all right, weezy.

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Speaker 1: So I am dying to try this gourmet mac so

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Speaker 1: come away.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be good.

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Speaker 2: Why you say that?

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Speaker 3: Because think about the stuff we eat today. I mean,

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Speaker 3: you eat shitty meals all the time.

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Speaker 1: With Oh let me tell you. I'm getting to the

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Speaker 1: point where I'm gonna start rating it. And I've been

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Speaker 1: because I've been pretty nice. Someone made tuna castrole.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna get me caught up.

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Speaker 1: But this it was literally it's tuna castrole and the

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Speaker 1: on the shell. If people said the worst pickled eg

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Speaker 1: Have you had a pickled egg?

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Speaker 3: I thought casseroles are for Caucasians. And this is the

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Speaker 3: Black Black Network. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was two black sisters that owned a all black

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Speaker 1: a tuna castrole and it was absolutely that's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Putting the olive oil in the pan for the onions

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Speaker 3: because I like it to caramelize, okay, okay, But also

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna boil the hot dogs, start boiling the macacheese.

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Speaker 3: And while that's boiling, that's where I'd just be trying

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Speaker 3: to get the flavor with the onions, and Shita tastes

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Speaker 3: like extra. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just learned the other day that some people seasoned

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Speaker 2: Are you one of those people?

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Speaker 3: Am? I Karen? Now it was? It was a black girl. Damn,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. That's what I'm saying. I expect her

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Speaker 3: to be black. You you said you're a carot. You

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Speaker 3: want to know something that's just too black? My mom,

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Speaker 3: every time she watches my dog, won't feed the dog

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Speaker 3: dog food. It's only like chicken, right, And I was like, Mom,

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Speaker 3: why is that chicken color different? Oh well, it has

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Speaker 3: a little garlic powder and just a little season on it.

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Speaker 2: She seas in the dog's foods there's too bland, no way.

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Speaker 3: And every time I got the dog be peen out

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Speaker 3: of its ask. Actually, there's a very special day and

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Speaker 3: them to LA, so they're flying to night.

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Speaker 2: You moved them.

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Speaker 3: They live in Orlando, so literally I'm New York Orlando, LA.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, I can't do this triangle. It's

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Speaker 3: me was like a big life goal. That's summer Orlando.

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Speaker 1: First of all, that's a yeah, cause it would have

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Speaker 3: You moved them to a more expensive market. I want

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Speaker 3: them to be closer to me. This is where all

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Speaker 3: my mom does. People probably see my mom all over

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Speaker 3: my content. But my dad was like, damn, I wish

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Speaker 3: And I was like, well, shit, you guys could be there,

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Speaker 3: and so yeah, I mean to me, it's crazy to

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Speaker 3: spend so much money. I'm gonna have to eat this

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Speaker 1: No, no, but you're making like really big moves.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited about having this conversation with you because

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Speaker 1: knowing that you came from Brokeness and seeing like you're

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Speaker 1: But I'm not at the point where I'm playing chess.

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Speaker 1: So I'm literally excited about this episode because we're all

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Speaker 3: School, you, I hope.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, So I hope I do the due deal

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Speaker 2: with Just tell us what was.

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Speaker 1: Going on when you were making Gourmet mac and Cheese,

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Speaker 3: So I'll tell you this coming from Brokeness was.

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Speaker 1: Something that I thought you were gonna put the Sorry.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to do the smaller pan

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Speaker 1: that them first. I don't know if they you're gonna

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Speaker 3: This is the maca cheese potting.

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Speaker 2: No, it was the other because that pot small. I

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Speaker 2: love you.

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Speaker 1: I'm making my own Okay, I'm staying out of the kitchen.

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Speaker 3: Said you're gonna take.

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Speaker 1: Just so you know, every time I get involved in

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Speaker 1: the kitchen, I burned someone's dish. So I need to

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Speaker 1: stay in my life. Okay, okay, made feet, Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: I've been burning stuff on people's own meals, all right,

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Speaker 1: So so tell me what was going on.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 3: So I actually grew up with money and there was

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Speaker 3: a stock market crash that happened that lost my parents

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Speaker 3: I ended up dating a guy. It was just like

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Speaker 3: rich boyfriend that was paying for my school and then

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Speaker 3: he was very abusive. Broke up with him and then

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Speaker 3: So started work at the mall, White House black market

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Speaker 1: Bike Yeah, yeah, a little bit high play, yeah, high class,

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Speaker 1: that's my first I did.

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Speaker 2: Did you steal anything from them, like a few things.

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Speaker 3: Ok. Good, good, But then I realized once I had

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Speaker 3: Yes, no way, all working at my house like Marky.

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Speaker 3: Yes, oh he was like legit okay, Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And so that was like my first entry into whole

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Speaker 3: she goes, oh my god, it's Tudio fifty four is

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Speaker 3: funny is my mom always wanted me to.

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Speaker 2: Be such a good personality. Couldn't wear your personality?

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Speaker 3: Okay, my mom always wanted me to be with a

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be so great. And like literally I'm moving

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Speaker 1: But how does it not that I also say that

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Speaker 1: Is it when did you have the epiphany that you

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Speaker 2: I damn, that's a good feeling.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to have that feeling. It was It

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Speaker 3: Oh, room, Like we have two separate rooms and every

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Speaker 3: like how much was my daughter making?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she said, we.

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Speaker 3: Got our own rooms. Okay. Then we go to the store.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, Mom, you can get more. You can

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Speaker 2: Your mom was like, what the break is happening?

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Speaker 3: She was bugging out. And then we walk outside of

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, do you want to have dinner there?

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Speaker 3: And that was when it hit my mom. She got

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Speaker 3: at the time.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you said stay out the lane, so I'm staying.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching it.

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Speaker 3: I get cooked for her now, Yo.

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Speaker 2: You ain't been in the kitchen in a while.

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Speaker 3: I cooked this morning.

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Speaker 2: Yo, I'm sorry you told me that.

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Speaker 1: You told me to stay out the kitchen, and we

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Speaker 2: Don't even know if you don't read on there to

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Speaker 3: No, I can't. I was looking for another contract. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I'll move it to this one. The ale I tried to.

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Speaker 3: I love it, No, but it was. It was beautiful

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Speaker 3: because my mom really was just so excited for me,

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Speaker 3: She looks at the men. She said, oh shit, that

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Speaker 3: But it's really great because for me, like I don't

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Speaker 3: like dream come true. Shit for me.

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Speaker 2: I can only imagine I really really.

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Speaker 3: Have wanted this for myself my life, and like I

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Speaker 3: Like if we walk into a place and can't get in,

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Speaker 3: like you don't know how my daughter is called Charlemagne.

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Speaker 3: It's just my mom is like my daughter's on TV

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Speaker 3: and they're like, really, what out confuse? But yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, and they come tonight. This is a big

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Speaker 2: freaking deal.

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Speaker 3: She's gonna get her nerves well.

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Speaker 2: And luckily you moved it right down the street.

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Speaker 5: I did. So.

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Speaker 3: My mom wanted to get rid of her car. She

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I can do this shit. I

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Speaker 3: you know, parents don't want to give up too much

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Speaker 3: moved her in a walkable neighborhood. She'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And then now are they still together? So he's

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Speaker 1: when does your dad come?

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Speaker 5: It is?

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Speaker 3: So my dad comes in tonight. He's just like as

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Speaker 3: care of my dad and then you know, okay, in

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Speaker 3: a lot of shit they've lived there forever. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: so yeah it's a big deal.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about go back to your broke story, okay,

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Speaker 1: because I want to know how this elevation because it

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Speaker 1: seems like somewhere around your elevation that was like a

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Speaker 3: So the broke missus, the brokest I think i'd been

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Speaker 3: was when I left the abusive X. Right, he only

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Speaker 3: let me keep barely the clothes that I had that

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Speaker 3: I had when I like got with him.

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Speaker 2: Are we talking like emotional or physical abuse?

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Speaker 3: Physical and emotional? He was crazy. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know it was bad because I just

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Speaker 3: kind of thought when a man is paying for things

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Speaker 3: And so to me, if you never close your fist,

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Speaker 3: when I left him, he didn't give me anything. It

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Speaker 3: to school that's how my parents were, to like literally

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Speaker 3: figuring out what I was gonna do with the last bottles, right,

441
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,960
Speaker 3: So it was really tough. And I couldn't ask my

442
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,920
Speaker 3: parents for anything, didn't want to tell them how bad

443
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 3: it was.

444
00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so when I moved, he didn't want

445
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 1: to tell them because they were already struggling.

446
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I can't imagine how my mom would feel.

447
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,959
Speaker 3: She's like, oh my god, was like excited about you

448
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,479
Speaker 3: having this rich boyfriend? Yeah, oh yeah, you know. So

449
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 3: ended up finding a place I think it was seven

450
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 3: hundred a month, split the rent with a homegirls, a

451
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,120
Speaker 3: two bedroom in Orlando. He was right by Walmart, thank god,

452
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 3: because that's where I was buying all the fucking hot dogs,

453
00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,040
Speaker 3: the mac and cheese. Wrong, but my number one broke

454
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 3: thing I would do. So I used to hang with

455
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Speaker 3: all the trap news because hello, that was my jam okay,

456
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 3: and I'm from Florida, right, so like southern culture, big

457
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,120
Speaker 3: car shows, HBC's like it was just fun and basically

458
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 3: what I would do if they were going to like

459
00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,159
Speaker 3: buy a bottle or a table in the club, I

460
00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 3: would see if I had like maybe thirty dollars up

461
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 3: to my account so that it would overdraft, and have

462
00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,199
Speaker 3: them give me the cash. And that was like my

463
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,440
Speaker 3: payday loan to myself.

464
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, hold that you are like really in deep

465
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Speaker 1: when you think of that strategy.

466
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

467
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Speaker 3: My roommate and I at the time. I remember we

468
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 3: both got paid on different weeks. So there was a

469
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 3: Thursday and we both got paid that or I got

470
00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 3: paid that Friday. I was like, damn, we don't have

471
00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 3: detergent left, but we want to go to the club.

472
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 3: We had like twenty bucks. She was like, okay, we

473
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 3: get vodka or detergent, and we got vodka. Okay, we

474
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 3: use some body washing like clean shit. In the same

475
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 3: we were like, we got to go out and meet

476
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 3: niggas to make more money. And it's crazy that, like

477
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: that was what I thought being able to have success.

478
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 3: Look like I got to meet a rich guy. I

479
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 3: got to be a basketball player this fi or that guy. Yeah,

480
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 3: which a lot of women still think they need to

481
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Speaker 3: do today.

482
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Speaker 1: I want to subscribe. I'm gonna say it openly. I

483
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 1: want to subscribe to the rich nigga club because I

484
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 1: do the opposite. I'm like, are you broken, homeless?

485
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Speaker 2: Let me help you. I can graduate you to the

486
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Speaker 2: next lines.

487
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: Oh no, trust me. You don't want to get in

488
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: that game. You know what the problem is because they'll

489
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: turn around to look at.

490
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 2: You and be like, I know I'm homeless, but uh oh.

491
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: No, my life, I think I'm better than you. The

492
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 3: problem is, like I think now, a lot of the

493
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: dudes are in my industry right, so, like the people

494
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 3: that I'm working amongst, I can't be out here like

495
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 3: trying to fuck with these niggas for bread like I

496
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: used to. Don't get me wrong, I would still want Toby,

497
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: but like for real, like you know, it's like they'll

498
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 3: know me from somewhere. I've seen me on something, so

499
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Speaker 3: I don't want to be a bird. Then I just

500
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 3: end up, you know, a bird with these niggas.

501
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Speaker 1: But whatever, I'll tell you right now, I am learning

502
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: and I am done. So you know, if you ever

503
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: find a rich one, you can always slide on.

504
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Speaker 3: Heyko, I'm like.

505
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I've actually I've never actually dated a rich dude.

506
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Speaker 3: My damnsel in distress thing all the time was just

507
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 3: like I just really want to be able to like

508
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 3: ount my you know, parents, And it was true. I

509
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 3: was like, so, I'm just like working really hard and

510
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: I can't ut work college. We're just like, I'm really smart.

511
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: I read a lot. I was always like doing a

512
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 3: fucking sob story, which I'll tell you what, my sugar daddy.

513
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: A lot of the things that I think helped me

514
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: now are the stock tips and investment tips I got

515
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Speaker 3: for my sugar daddy.

516
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Speaker 1: But didn't didn't you say, were your parents in stock

517
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: market too though it crash okay, So you didn't want

518
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: to take tips from them, were you?

519
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: Like No?

520
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 3: But you know, with him, particularly my sugar daddy, I

521
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: remember he would get up at four o'clock in the morning,

522
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: five o'clock in the morning and watch the market, to

523
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 3: watch the markets in China wherever, just international stocks four

524
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: x right, things like that, and it never made me

525
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 3: want his money. I always wanted to be him. I

526
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 3: always wanted to be that person that just had this, this, this,

527
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 3: this and that to me that was so attractive about him.

528
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 3: People used to always ask me how I could fuck

529
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 3: him and shit like that, and I was like, bro,

530
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Speaker 3: you don't know how rich the person is. You don't

531
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Speaker 3: know how how much that drives me. The ambition that

532
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: made him sexier and sexier. So one day I eventually

533
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: just asked him like, hey, I really want to learn

534
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 3: the stock market, but like, you know, what, can I

535
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: put like five hundred dollars in? And he's like, that's

536
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: not a start. I'll give you ten thousand dollars if

537
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 3: you can make it grow. I forgot the timeframe. He said,

538
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 3: I'll reward you with another ten and he did wow,

539
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: And I kept growing it and growing it. I think

540
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Speaker 3: at the time I even put the money in T

541
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Speaker 3: Mobile think it opened became a publicly traded company when

542
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: I worked there, became publicly traded and then it was

543
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: six dollars and then they went up to like thirty

544
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Speaker 3: and I thought, I get.

545
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Speaker 5: A lot of money.

546
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Speaker 1: So when you were doing the podcast, and this is before,

547
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Speaker 1: I want to say, before everybody was on podcasting correct,

548
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: seven years ago? Yeah, I mean it was like before

549
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Speaker 1: the new wave or were you guys early in Like

550
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Speaker 1: we were.

551
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Speaker 3: Very early, and like people were verrely really doing video,

552
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: I think for popular podcasts, just for scale.

553
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand how you're mixing water and oil and

554
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: you're not getting burns.

555
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 3: I'm standing away. I'm trying to like I didn't have

556
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: a grill, okay, but I'm trying to get that real plate.

557
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. Okay, gourmet Continue.

558
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 2: I don't want to derail you.

559
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Speaker 3: This is fucking me up. This is hard. I can't

560
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: even listen to music when I cook one.

561
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Speaker 1: You would be surprised how many people will at the

562
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: after each interview, they'll be like yo, cooking and talking

563
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Speaker 1: at the same time.

564
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: Really really difficult because.

565
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 3: You're like knowing that you have to engage, like that's

566
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: what's making it.

567
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 2: And you have to like tell your story the entire time.

568
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm about to start telling you some lies.

569
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Speaker 1: No no, So so your sugar baby is sugar babe,

570
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: sugar daddy, so that would make you the.

571
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: Sugar baby, right, sugar baby.

572
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I'm going to be a sugar baby.

573
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a shirt.

574
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Speaker 3: Baby, bros. Every time when I was out with him,

575
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: I would take him to like fucking any and this

576
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: when I just moved to New York. Catch just just

577
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 3: came out at the time, and SGK was super popular.

578
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 3: I remember all them niggas if you be looking at

579
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 3: me with him, and I'd be like, come on, babe.

580
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 3: Also just turned on knowing that he had to fuck

581
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 3: me for money, uh huh, which is terrible, but I

582
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 3: was okay, it was sexy to me, Like especially when

583
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: I remember he would be like, you want to get

584
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: some clothes, and I would always want to get a

585
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: little Nike askic to shit. You know many all the

586
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: niggas of you in yeah, he's my daddy, but so anyway,

587
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: start horrible decisions.

588
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 1: But I like how you were actually inspired by his

589
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,159
Speaker 1: moves versus well, I don't want to say I like,

590
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,160
Speaker 1: but it's interesting that you were inspired by him being

591
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: successful to be even more successful, and you you took

592
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: the initiative to even say, hey, I want to learn

593
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: what you're doing and do it on my own, which

594
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: was great.

595
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Speaker 3: It's like I always wanted this sex in the city

596
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: life mm hmm, but I never felt like any of

597
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: them needed men to live that life. Yeah, and so

598
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: I wanted to have the girlfriends that I was wearing

599
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 3: an amazing designer with and fucking enjoying fashion show and

600
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: doing this shit. But I knew if I was tied

601
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: to a man, I wouldn't have that freedom. And I

602
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: had also experienced my first relationship a man with money

603
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 3: and abuse, so I was like, I have to have

604
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 3: it on my own. I can't be down again. And

605
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 3: you know, I hate to say it like this, but

606
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: my mom was a housewife her whole life. And what

607
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: happened to my parents with losing their I mean, their

608
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 3: house got poor clothes on right, the home that I

609
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 3: SETI grew up in. It's like it was tough to

610
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,239
Speaker 3: watch them go through that, and I think about two

611
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: incomes or just diversifying shit what that would have meant.

612
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: So that really fueled me a lot. And it's tough

613
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: for my mom to hear that.

614
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but why have you had those sidebar conversations?

615
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, But it's not easy. Like my mom

616
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 3: is so amazing, but there's moments where she's like, oh

617
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,239
Speaker 3: my god, I never taught you to go out there

618
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,959
Speaker 3: and do it alone.

619
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Speaker 2: Well look at you in a way.

620
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 3: You're you know, well I made money off of person.

621
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: Well you make money because you're a gangster entrepreneur. That's

622
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: really it. I mean the personality, I mean, in my opinion,

623
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: the personality is just like the cherry on the cake.

624
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: But you know what, I'm a feller at heart. And

625
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: my father that's what he did growing up. He owned

626
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: like camera stores and like you know the little row

627
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 3: like stores back in the day they'd have where they

628
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: were selling electronic those shops. That was my dad's like

629
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 3: line of work. Okay, And when I was growing up,

630
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: I mean this shit, that's what I started selling clothes,

631
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 3: t mobile my BLIZZI Then then like literally everything about

632
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: it felt like selling to me, you know, Like it's

633
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 3: interesting the way Mandy and I have kind of done

634
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: our business. I always felt like she has really helped

635
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: us so much when it comes in terms of our finances.

636
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 2: Right.

637
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 3: She had a financial background, and even though I came

638
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: from the tech world, was selling like I mean, I'm

639
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: the first person when we're on a call that's like

640
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: I want to do it for this much, this or that,

641
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: And like I loved that. We've been able to play

642
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 3: up both of our corporate roles in that. Yeah, and

643
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of seller blood in me. My

644
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: partner Alex now with WTF Media Studios, anytime we have

645
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: a big deal or he sees someone's budget, he's like, oh,

646
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: you have to sell them on the phone. You have

647
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 3: to tell them why. And I really enjoy it. It makes

648
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: me feel like I still got it a little bit.

649
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: I Uh.

650
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 2: I always say this that I think I used to

651
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: always say.

652
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: When I have a child, I want to teach her

653
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: how to read, I want to teach her financial literacy,

654
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: I want to teach her about God.

655
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: But the number one skill that she.

656
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: Has to have before she graduates high school is the

657
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: ability to sell. Because I think it is the most

658
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: underrated skill. And if you're going to go work for yourself.

659
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: The number one thing you're gonna have to do is

660
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: sell a product, sell yourself. And so I don't buy anything, yep.

661
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: And I remember when I had my first company. I

662
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: remember going to home deep or office depot and buying

663
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: those little sale books and you know how will out

664
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: my hair pulled back and all this and whatever. But

665
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: I knew right away that sales is the one skill.

666
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: And I would listen to all these audio tapes too

667
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: about like how people you know you're almost nervous getting

668
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: into it.

669
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: Well, what's interesting about selling too? I know Mandy and

670
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: I had a conversation about this, Like, so I never

671
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: finished college because I couldn't afford to finish it because

672
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: I got out of that relationship, right, m I don't

673
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: want it to splatter in all this equipment. I don't

674
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: normally do it like this. But Mandy at the time

675
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: coming off of two degrees working for this huge firm,

676
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: and she was working more hours and not making as

677
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: much as me in accounting at that time. I understand

678
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: it was junior level. Yeah, but I think about that

679
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: a lot, and I think about the money you can

680
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: make from selling all the time, and I think about

681
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 3: that instance of like, shit, maybe she's smarter than me,

682
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: but why isn't she making it up? And it's because

683
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 3: that particular skill really can't be taught real you can't.

684
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta practice it and practice it and practice

685
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: it and practice it.

686
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I believe Mandy is greater than what was

687
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 3: I gonna say, you know, the job that she had,

688
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: and that's why she's making way more and doing way

689
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: more things now. But yeah, I mean it's definitely a thing. Yeah.

690
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, with selling doing shit like that, had horrible

691
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: decisions on the side, and it was really difficult to

692
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: juggle both. And so about two years into doing horrible decisions,

693
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: I quit. But it was mainly because I was like,

694
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: you know what, if I ever wanted to come back

695
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: to this shit, I will, Like I've been making jokes recently,

696
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, me and fifteen years I'm

697
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 3: probably gonna be a real estate agent.

698
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: So why did you quit?

699
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: Two years in the trajectory of horrible was faster than

700
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 3: the trajectory of corporate America. For example, how long do

701
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: we work a corporate job? Right? So you want to

702
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 3: get promoted? I worked for Tea Mobile six years I

703
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: got to be a manager after year three and a

704
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: half four, if there's a spot for you, so to me,

705
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 3: I kind of just felt like this is moving faster

706
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: than my rate in the corporate world.

707
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you said you quit horrible.

708
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, quit my corporate Oh.

709
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Oh because you were like two years in

710
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: I quit horrible. So no, you quit your corporate okay, okay.

711
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: Got quit my corporate job after two years, and I

712
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: legitimately felt like it was not gonna make me.

713
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: But I have to ask before, how much were you

714
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: making it horrible.

715
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: To say, okay, not as you make it. Oh, you

716
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: weren't making as much as T Mobile.

717
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 3: So here's the thing, because a lot of people ask

718
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: me when is the right time to quit a job,

719
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: and I can only explain it like this, starting Team Mobile,

720
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 3: I made ninety thousand, ending I was around one seventy five, okay.

721
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: Which is damn T Mobile, Go ahead, go on.

722
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: It was like I was selling to companies that needed

723
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 3: like Ethernet I gradual disaster recovery, like I graduated from phones.

724
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: But basically this is what happens, so horrible decisions at

725
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: that time that I quit may have been making me

726
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand, maybe one twenty five from touring mainly

727
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: not Patreon ad money.

728
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: And that's two years in Yeah, geez, all right, go on,

729
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: And I.

730
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: Think the tour money because Mandy and I were buying

731
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: out theaters, We brought out carolines on Broadway.

732
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 2: And you guys were physically doing it yourself.

733
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: Splitting that money, paying ourselves back event bright type shit.

734
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 3: But what I realized was like, oh, took me six

735
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: years to make ninety to one to seventy. Ye, took

736
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: me two years from zero to one hundred. So next

737
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: year I'm gonna make more. Yeah, let's just say I

738
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: make another fifty. It's worth it. Not to mention I

739
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: have more time on my hands. I could probably do

740
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: more appearances and more tour dates, so it's time to quit.

741
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: I also remember one moment it was brilliant idiots. If

742
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: anyone watches that episode, I was literally wearing a suit

743
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: like a blazer and a skirt. But Mandy and I

744
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 3: had to like make an excuse to leave our jobs

745
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: that day to go shoot with charl Mane and Andrew.

746
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: So I think that it really will show you, like

747
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: when you have to start saying no, to things. Oh

748
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah, when you have to start saying no to

749
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: things of your day job, Yes, maybe that's when it's time,

750
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: like when you're really getting booked like that, like TV

751
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: appearances even Like I remember we did Vice Live and

752
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: I couldn't be there early for the rehearsal because of

753
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 3: my job, and I was like, damn man, and anyone

754
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: who's watching this who might be semi getting entertainment, whether

755
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: you've got a TikTok or popular Instagram channel, you want

756
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: to do a Horrible Decisions podcast and maybe get or

757
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: even eating while robe. Who the fuck is gonna do

758
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: this shit at six thirty seven o'clock at night, right,

759
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 3: who's gonna do what? Like to have a guest?

760
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 5: Yeah?

761
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: Entrepreneurs, Like all this shit gets filmed during the day. Yeah,

762
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 3: so it's really tough to have a nine to five

763
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: and pursue those entertainment dreams. And like that was why

764
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: I was like, I got to figure the shit out.

765
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: I think my biggest success in this industry came during

766
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 3: the pandemic while Pivoting. So made the TV show Sex Sells.

767
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 3: It's about the business of sex, having money, making money

768
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 3: from sex without having it, And I came up with

769
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: that because that's how I make money, right, I just

770
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 3: basically talk about sex covered all these adult industries and

771
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 3: I'm not a TV star, and it ended up popping

772
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: on tuess And that's why I'm on.

773
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: To how did you Did you package that yourself and

774
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: then start selling it or did you package it and

775
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: then started calling Charlemagne or different people you have relationships

776
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: with and like, so have something that I need.

777
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: That's what made me the most proud. I didn't need

778
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 3: a co sign for that. Okay, I believe Horrible Decisions

779
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: had the Charlemagne co sign, and that's what made a

780
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 3: lot of people watching in the beginning. I do believe

781
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 3: Charlemagne made our success faster. Don't believe we're successful because

782
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: it happened faster. But what happened with Sex Sells was

783
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,280
Speaker 3: like I just had so much time during the pandemic

784
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: to think, and I knew my two loves were fucking

785
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: in money m hm, and so I was like, oh

786
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 3: my god, I should make the show. I want to

787
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: humanize sex workers, and literally people don't talk about their

788
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 3: sex lives on it, and a lot of people have said, like, oh,

789
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: it's like horrible decisions on TV.

790
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: But it's even it doesn't sound like it.

791
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: It sounds completely different because you're talking about this set

792
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: workers right right.

793
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 3: I'm an interview a lot of the guests we had

794
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: so that I can, you know, show them some love

795
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 3: and they've got real businesses promote them. But no, it's

796
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: totally different and I love doing it. It makes me.

797
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 3: It really brought me into the world of seeing how

798
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 3: production works, the larger skill budgets and money.

799
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: So but you pitched it yourself, That's what I'm saying,

800
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: Like you went out there or did you have a

801
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: manager that helped you so.

802
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: It started slow. I didn't have a manager, never had

803
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: an agent ever.

804
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 2: Basically, oh still to this date.

805
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 3: No, not personally, I'm damn, you're a gangster. I have

806
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 3: a person that gives I give them a cut of

807
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: my money if they do pr stuff for me, but

808
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: if they get me a deal. But yeah, So basically,

809
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 3: there was a guy that reached out to me months

810
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 3: back before the pandemic was like, oh, do you want

811
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 3: to do this type of show? I was like, no,

812
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: Pandemic hits and I was like, you know what, I

813
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: wonder what the fuck he's doing. It's like he making

814
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: TV is TV being made? And we started talking about

815
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: what it would look like if we worked together and

816
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 3: came up with sex cells together. He worked at FEWS

817
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: at the time. Help me package it, Oh, help me

818
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: make a bible. And we did it that way. But

819
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: what I will tell anyone that has a good TV

820
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: idea is people that work in development needs shows all

821
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 3: the time. I currently run development for Kenya Barris at Audible. Right, Okay,

822
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: don't send me shit right now, I'm done with that.

823
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: But like literally, I was wondering what shows we're gonna

824
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: make for him, Like developers want to fucking know, and

825
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: if you have good ideas, shooting pilots, making decks, having

826
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 3: a bible, having the demographics of why it would be good,

827
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 3: not just coming in their blank like hey, I'm not

828
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: doing anything like I've been doing XYZ. Like if you

829
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: hit up the Food Network, you'd have how much to

830
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 3: show them?

831
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: So real?

832
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

833
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take notes. Remember how I said I'll take

834
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: it notes, goge you.

835
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: Did, But like here it is, here's my spread, and

836
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: this is what I do with this type of budget.

837
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: Imagine if you gave me fifty thousand an episode, I

838
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: could be doing it on THEE. I could be coming

839
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 3: to their homes. I could be x y Z.

840
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 5: Like.

841
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,919
Speaker 3: There's so many different ways for the things that we're

842
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: making right now to make them next level. Yeah, and

843
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: so I think that we just kind of have to

844
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: use our network. Like my biggest thing with playing chess

845
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 3: is making sure that I'm rubbing elbows with those that

846
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: can one day need to use me for something.

847
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: I need to use you. That's awesome, Yeah.

848
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: Because the thing is, I remember Charlotte, he said this

849
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,240
Speaker 3: about someone They were like. He was like, that person

850
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 3: is such an opportunist, and I was like, I wonder

851
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 3: if that's who I am. But really, I don't ask

852
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 3: I let every single person know what the fuck I do.

853
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: I just had a dinner where I sat down next

854
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: to one of the most famous comedians in the world.

855
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know if this person can travel on

856
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 3: a commercial plane, that's how famous they are, right. Wow.

857
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: When they asked me what I do, didn't even say

858
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: a podcasting. I was like, I own a production studio

859
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: in New York and LA. It's black owned. We shoot

860
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: podcasts mainly, but we also have a mobile team Boom.

861
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: Now it's in your brain. Now you know what you

862
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: can use me for. Like, that's the job I felt

863
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: like I needed to sell to that person at the time.

864
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: When I talk to TV show, TV networks or people

865
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: that work in Netflix or different things like that I host,

866
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,919
Speaker 3: I do this, I do that right, Like I want

867
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 3: to make sure that I'm useful to people that I've

868
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: rebbed elbows with.

869
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think your sales skills like shines through. I

870
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: always say, like sales is more about paying attention to

871
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: what the customer wants, listening to them.

872
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: And then catering to their needs.

873
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: That's just trying to sell someone something that they don't

874
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: want to buy. So even the way you're talking is

875
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: like your sales skills are just really amazing. Yeah, because

876
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: that's how it is. You're supposed to sell. You're supposed

877
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: to you know, if someone walks up to me right now,

878
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about, you know what it is they're

879
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna need or want from me.

880
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: Correct. You know, that's a really good point because I

881
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 3: didn't even think about me selling myself in that way,

882
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 3: but like, damn it is.

883
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: It is.

884
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: But now opportunists is different because opportunists are I always

885
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: say I want to be a business person, not a hustler,

886
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: because I feel like a hustler is like, I'm gonna

887
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: take advantage, someone's gonna get a short end of a stick.

888
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: But a business person is like, we're all gonna win.

889
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna walk away with your piece of the pie.

890
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: She's gonna walk away with her piece of pie, and

891
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away with my piece.

892
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: And no one feels to agreed. You can never make

893
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 3: someone feel like they're doing you a favor.

894
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, like at all.

895
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Charlotte Mane was lucky and lucky enough to

896
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 3: make horrible decisions with his rollout on Black Effect. I

897
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 3: know there's eighty five South all the smoke, and I

898
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: literally was thinking to myself the other day, Charla Mainne

899
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: is Charlot Mane, But horrible decisions was still good enough

900
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: to where Black Effects was like, oh, we do need

901
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: those numbers. But when we sell to add people like

902
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to fucking suck anybody's dick to feel

903
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 3: like and I'm not talking about that instance, but just

904
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 3: anyone like, thank you so much for giving this to you. Yeah, yeah,

905
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: when you know your value, yeah yeah, we have to

906
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: make sure that we're definitely pouring into ourselves in that way.

907
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: But I mean, shit, you know I love fuse to death,

908
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: but I also know my show brings number then and

909
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: I know that's why they treat me well. They love

910
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: me too, Like we're definitely doing what we need to

911
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: do for each other. Like I'm so happy to be

912
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: on a network that you know I can be their

913
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 3: most watch show. Like maybe if I was on an

914
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: HBO or some Netflix, maybe I would just kind of

915
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 3: go under the radar.

916
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Maybe I honestly don't think so.

917
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Thank you, I don't think so. I'm not even trying

918
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 2: to be not well, what was your hardest hurdle?

919
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: I think it just to come to day because I

920
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: feel like you have a lot of great pivots. But like,

921
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: where was there a point where you were like I

922
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: don't know, hmm that you seriously like had that conversation

923
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: of I don't know.

924
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 3: And it could have been my studio. Okay, my studio,

925
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: which is the best thing I've ever done. Actually, my

926
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: studio gave me the seal of approval to be bigger

927
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: than just a podcaster, Like that was when I became

928
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 3: a businesswoman. No matter how hard Mandy and I have worked.

929
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: I never felt like that, and it's no shade to her.

930
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's because with women. I don't

931
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: know if it's because we talk about sex, but like

932
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: I had to do something else for myself to feel

933
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: like I could be respected. And it really shows something

934
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: about brick and mortar spaces to make people feel very like, oh,

935
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: they're really doing something, which is weird. But it's also

936
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,959
Speaker 3: because I started getting other people money, Like.

937
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Thought, what was the hesitancy, Like, where was that hesitancy at? Like,

938
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: where was that pain that investment?

939
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: Right? My partner Alex shout out to him, we spent

940
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: an insane amount of money on fucking equipment, which is

941
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: why we have one of the best studios right, Like literally,

942
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 3: I was like, how can we be charging people this

943
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: little but like our equipment is so fucking expensive, like

944
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't add up or whatever. Yeah, and he was like, Yo,

945
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 3: that's why everybody's gonna come with us, to know that

946
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: the podcasters like us can be there and then the

947
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 3: Charlottamanees of the world or whoever they may be. David

948
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Letterman wasn't our shit, Oh shit, right?

949
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Okay, he's like to know these people and okay.

950
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: You can sit amongst them like we're gonna be for

951
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: all of them. And that's really been our brand. I

952
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 3: believe that's why we're growing. I mean, we get resumes

953
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 3: like fucking crazy every day.

954
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: So how long did it take when you so you

955
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: made that initial investment. The by the way, you're cooking

956
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: like we are in a rich restaurant.

957
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: Because the point look at all the food she.

958
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: Made, and it's like, I feel like I'm about to

959
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: eat an appetizer, Gormet.

960
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 3: You try to make it look clean and minimally.

961
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: When the cameras are off, I'm gonna just go in

962
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: with a fork and just eat everything direct.

963
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: I know it. Yeah, because I'm starving and you gave

964
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: me like an appetizer.

965
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: It's fucking hot dogs. Girl.

966
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: I want to see you sit down next to this

967
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: mic and spend quality time with me.

968
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let's try this. It looks good but.

969
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 5: Not bad.

970
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 3: You look's the onions.

971
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you didn't mix these in together.

972
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: Funny enough, my co host talks about Haitian spaghetti and

973
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 3: it's hot dogs in it. I never mixed the hot

974
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: dogs of pasta. But this is kind of good. This

975
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 3: ship is amazing. Did you mix it all on one?

976
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 5: For it?

977
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: I put it together on I don't want to touch

978
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: on the plate.

979
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 2: For all y'all listeners. The hot dog and the onions smack.

980
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I definitely will mess with Nathan's just because I feel

981
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: like maybe it tastes different or I just haven't had

982
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: a hot dog in a while. But the freaking grilled

983
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: onions and mac and cheese cheese is genius. Bro I

984
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: don't know why I've never thought of seasoning up my

985
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: mac and cheese.

986
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: But the grilled onions, it's crunchy, it's amazing.

987
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: I am so happy.

988
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: I am very impressible. The only thing is.

989
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: I would maybe add and I don't even know, but

990
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: do you agree? Would you add more salt to the

991
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: mac and cheese?

992
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 3: Oh? I put salt on my stuff, but I don't

993
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 3: want to do that to people. Oh okay, that's what

994
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: the lorries for you. You know, sodium is a bitch nowadays.

995
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: M Plus, there's a lot of salt in that Tony

996
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: Sharia whatever name is.

997
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 2: Okay.

998
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: So for a girl that came from money, went broke,

999
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: had sugar daddies and it's self made to the point

1000
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: of flying your family in from Orlando to LA still

1001
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 1: in the early early I don't even want to say

1002
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: how early thirties she is because all of us are listening.

1003
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: Can you believe that much you've accomplished. It's amazing.

1004
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: You know. Sometimes I get scared, like I'll lose it,

1005
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: But then I realize the hunger that I have to

1006
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 3: help everybody around me is too deep. It's too intense

1007
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 3: that I don't think it could happen.

1008
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: Now do you deal with well?

1009
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: You said you have multiple companies. You're definitely spread. It

1010
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: sounds to me like you're spread pretty thin. I'm so

1011
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: happy you shared that because I always.

1012
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Think that maybe I'm doing something wrong if I have

1013
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 2: so many hustles going at the same time.

1014
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: You know, there is something to be said about a

1015
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 3: master of none. But I will say this much what's

1016
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: worked for me. I don't steal anybody's idea. I really

1017
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 3: ride my own wave. I made a studio not because

1018
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 3: there's other podcast studios, because there were no black owned

1019
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: ones that were gonna have podcasters run it. I'd never

1020
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: been to a podcast studio run by a podcaster. I

1021
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: made horrible decisions because I really wanted to do a

1022
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: fun sex show with someone that I knew was authentic,

1023
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 3: and there were no black shows about sex that were

1024
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 3: hosted by normal girls. Yeah right, it was always like

1025
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: porn stars or whatever. Everything that I've done so far

1026
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: hadn't seen before except for stock, I would say, But like,

1027
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 3: I've really rode my own wave, and that's why I

1028
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 3: think it's worked. So when you do too many different

1029
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 3: trades and you're taking an idea, like your concept is different.

1030
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: We've all seen a cooking show which your concept is different, right, Yeah. Yeah,

1031
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 3: So it's like you have to have something different at

1032
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: it to it, and I think that if you don't,

1033
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: you then become a master of none because you're just

1034
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 3: trying to do things that other people do. Yeah, that's tough.

1035
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: I have a fear of I don't even know where

1036
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: this fear came from, but when it comes to partnering

1037
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: with other people, I feel like my greatest asset is

1038
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: my relationships, and it's probably because I have so much integrity.

1039
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I won't hurt a full I really

1040
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: won't even hurt a fly because I want to treat

1041
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: people the way I would want to be treated, So

1042
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: my loyalty is there. But when I see like you

1043
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: and Mandy working together and you and Alex working together,

1044
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, either the integrity on you has got to

1045
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: be super lit or how are you managing that partnership?

1046
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: Because I always I always get nervous, like what if

1047
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: the other partner doesn't hold up or there's a disagreement?

1048
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: So how do you how do you navigate that?

1049
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: My first partnership I've ever had was with Mandy right,

1050
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 3: and Mandy and I had stopped we're friends, stopp being friends,

1051
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 3: became friends again during the show, fell out of friendship again.

1052
00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: But I think we are so hungry to make money

1053
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: that we look past that and we're able to think

1054
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 3: of the greater purpose. Like if I had a co

1055
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 3: host that wasn't about our fans, maybe I couldn't do

1056
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: the job, you know what I'm saying. But Mandy's a

1057
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: self starter like I am too. Yeah, so it's not tough.

1058
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 3: Like Mandy and I were on tour putting together the

1059
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: merch table or doing something with the merchan o, the

1060
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: VIP things, and you know, if I see her doing something,

1061
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: I don't want her to do it alone.

1062
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, because oh nice, okay.

1063
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 3: You know, and I think she feels the same for me,

1064
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: so we definitely try and trust me, I have a

1065
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: time where I didn't even realize how much work she

1066
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: was putting in with the finance stuff. She's making spreadsheets

1067
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: and shit back then and doing stuff I didn't even

1068
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 3: understand that works. I would try to do it on

1069
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 3: the creative side. But like I think for me, with partnerships,

1070
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 3: there's a skill set that someone has that I don't.

1071
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 3: You know, wtf is so about the tech which is

1072
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: all Alex and not me. But I do have to

1073
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 3: give myself credit on how we were able to get

1074
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: this shit going. I just don't know how much I

1075
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 3: rent is where the light deal come from. He don't

1076
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 3: know what the fuck going on, which is great, yeah,

1077
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: figure out the other shit. Like I really learned how

1078
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: to use our skills and work together in that way,

1079
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 3: and it's definitely been touched. She's one of my tough

1080
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: he's one of my best friends, and it's like damn, now,

1081
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 3: sometimes it's all work. So we really have to feed

1082
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: that friendship. You know. We have to have a night

1083
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: where we get drunk together and have fun and not

1084
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: talk about work. We have to really do that to

1085
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: enjoy each other and separate it because it's tough.

1086
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know with Dolly. Dolly and I came from

1087
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: the Nick Cannon area.

1088
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know this.

1089
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: So my whole hookup with Black Effects, the president of

1090
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: Black Man, yeah.

1091
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: My stuff was an accident. It was legit.

1092
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: I was telling Dolly I was literally like flying weed

1093
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: money during the pandemic because I was I was hustling

1094
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: all different directions. But anyways, I was trying to build

1095
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: this show and I was like, Dolly, I think you

1096
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: should be a part of it. But you know, she

1097
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: had this other job offer and she's like should I

1098
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: take him? Like, as long as they don't tell you

1099
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: to go to work, girl, I'm all about taking all checks.

1100
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was the President of the Black

1101
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: Effect or whatever. They happened to need a cooking show,

1102
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: and she pitched Eating While Broke and called me like,

1103
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna kill me?

1104
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: And I was like, why would I kill you? We're

1105
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: actual friends, you know.

1106
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 3: I told you.

1107
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: She's like, I told you know.

1108
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: iHeart and ICM and Charlemagne about Eating while Broke and

1109
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: they loved it, and I was like, okay, So where

1110
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: do I kill you. She's like, well, they you know,

1111
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: we run a podcast network and your show is you

1112
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: want to do a TV show. I'm like, Dolly, the

1113
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: table was just built in my garage. My neighbors are

1114
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: driving past it. I actually don't even know where this

1115
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: table is gonna go, okay, and I think I had

1116
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: just found out I was pregnant or I was like

1117
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: borderline in that conversation, and I was like, shit, you

1118
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: know I was doing illegal weed activity. I was hustling

1119
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: in all these different plings. But I had this idea

1120
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: that was literally sitting in my garage, Like they just

1121
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: finished putting the forks on the table, and I'm like, Dolly,

1122
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm about to go broke. And I done pitched all

1123
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: my celebrity friends. But I don't even know if we're

1124
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: just taking this table to their house or how we're

1125
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: even doing it, So why would I kill you?

1126
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: Like?

1127
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: And she was like, yeah, well they want to send

1128
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: you an offer like and I was like, She's like,

1129
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: can you send me all your decks and stuff? And

1130
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, I had already had everything made.

1131
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: But it was really no reason to kill her. But

1132
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: even to this day. Like sometimes as friends, I'll have

1133
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: to get on the phone with her and she'll be like,

1134
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk business, or we could talk friends.

1135
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: So that's how we managed a friendship. It'd be like,

1136
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: Dolly ain't joining here nothing about work.

1137
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: That's tough. When someone's like cutting that's tough.

1138
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah.

1139
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: I remember the first time I heard attitude from DOLLI

1140
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 3: when I was asking for more money.

1141
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh yeah, Dolly will tell me

1142
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: no so fast.

1143
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, but you know, I separate.

1144
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: It is a safe place. It's a safer place than not,

1145
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: you know, in my heart is times with Mandy, I

1146
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: remember being so angry at her. We've definitely thought like

1147
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 3: I can't do this anymore. Literally, I was like, why

1148
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 3: I go? Fuck it? Where am I going to go?

1149
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 3: Like all this goddamn money, where am I gonna Where?

1150
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 3: Am I gonna go work for someone else? Fucking white dude? Like, No,

1151
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make this money with her and figure it

1152
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: the fuck out. Actually, it's interesting with our partnership. I

1153
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: recently was at dinner with someone who asked me about

1154
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: books and money spending and things like that, and I

1155
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: was like, when you talked about integrity. I just thought

1156
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 3: about it. Whether I'm angry with Maandy or not, I've

1157
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 3: never thought she would like take money from the company

1158
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: or something. Right with Alex and I were bestie, so

1159
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 3: we're not going to fuck each other over. And they

1160
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: were telling me about how someone been sneaking money out

1161
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: of their partnership, and I never thought of the bad

1162
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: side of what could happen for partnerships, only the good. Yeah,

1163
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: But it's really because I do find strength in numbers,

1164
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 3: and I think partnership just builds and builds and builds

1165
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: your portfolio. I mean, I would rather have half of

1166
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 3: ten things, you know what I mean, especially knowing that,

1167
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: like there's so many times Alex has called me and

1168
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 3: is like, yo, Neil Brennan is coming in and David

1169
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: Lehiman coming in our studios US right, or maybe I'll

1170
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: hit him up and I'll be like we're locked down

1171
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: for a week. We got to do from Amazon. Like

1172
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: it's always one or the other, and it really really helps,

1173
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: because when you're trying to get all that different money,

1174
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 3: you can't do all things. I don't believe in people

1175
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 3: that are trying to have too much control over everything.

1176
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 3: You know. That's that's when it gets really tough. That's

1177
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: when you get burnt out. You've got to be able

1178
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: to alleviate some of that. I'm real cheap and I

1179
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: don't even be wanting to give money up to an assistant,

1180
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: but I realize it helps make your life easier.

1181
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: Have you have you considered bringing one on yet I

1182
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: have one, as it has been helpful.

1183
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: Well, our studio is so busy. She's now just the

1184
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: studio manager of the two New York locations. But oh,

1185
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 3: she was amazing, Like she literally helped me with my

1186
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: grandmother's funeral, you know, like when you've got a good one.

1187
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 3: But my sister is like a real nigga, Like she's

1188
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 3: not like she's not, Oh she's so great. She'll call

1189
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: me like these mother, Like she helped me with the

1190
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 3: thing for the wheelchair for my dad today. Right, she

1191
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 3: sent me a screenshot of an email she was like

1192
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 3: these motherfucker's trying to play me bruh, and like it's

1193
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 3: so funny because like you kind of do have to

1194
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 3: work with someone that makes you feel comfortable. You know,

1195
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 3: if she was too tidied up, I don't think I

1196
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 3: can do it. Yeah, but like I love partnering and

1197
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: working with people that make me feel like I'm at home. Yeah, yeah,

1198
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: because when we face the world, there's a different person

1199
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 3: across that, you know what I'm saying. So knowing that

1200
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 3: we hire black and hire people that are a vibe

1201
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: like yeah, it's just it's so great, yeah, I think.

1202
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: But also finding someone that really is invested in your

1203
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: vision and your long term goals. I know with my crew,

1204
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I love them, Like if I feel something's de routing,

1205
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, dinner, lunch, we're getting together. Let's get to

1206
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: the table and find out what's going on. But we

1207
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I genuinely like love my crew.

1208
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: Like everybody that works for me, I would want to

1209
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 3: have a drink with them. Yeah. That to me, I

1210
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 3: don't want to hire anybody that makes me like getting

1211
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: my nerves and they're weird or like, I want to

1212
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 3: know they're cool, whether they be nerdy as fuck, and

1213
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 3: maybe we don't share those hobbies, like there has to

1214
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 3: be some connection there or I won't maybe care as much.

1215
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: And I think my thing to being a good boss

1216
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: is giving a fuck yeah, you know, writing down everyone's birthdays,

1217
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 3: making sure I get them a gift, sending them text

1218
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 3: telling them I appreciate them. I also don't say people

1219
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 3: work for me. Like if I'm in front of someone,

1220
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: I feel like that's.

1221
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 2: Do you do? You call them like your team? How

1222
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: do you reference them?

1223
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 3: I'd be like, I say we work together.

1224
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: If someone wants to know, oh, I like that.

1225
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: Even if they walk in the studio and they know

1226
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: on the owner, I'd be like, this is Danny, he

1227
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 3: works with us, or like that just makes me more comfortable. Yeah,

1228
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 3: I find a lot of condescendingness and when people kind

1229
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: of just be like they work for me. Yeah.

1230
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,439
Speaker 1: I was at an event the other day and someone said,

1231
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: just so you know, I'm her boss, and I was like, yeah,

1232
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had to say that. I

1233
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: don't even know the point of saying it. But I

1234
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: think mainly in corporate and maybe not very small smaller well,

1235
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to say an entrepreneurs. I don't know,

1236
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: but I do see. I guess if you're not at

1237
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: the higher level, you see that more because I don't

1238
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: even think the executives be like I'm the boss.

1239
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: No, but like look at Connell from Our Heart, Yeah,

1240
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: he was hugging everybody and chilling I'm like, what the

1241
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, yeah, yeah, But you know that's

1242
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 3: the thing too. I feel like there's this middle of

1243
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: success when you try to prove yourself. I can only

1244
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: relate to this. When I was kind of getting some

1245
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 3: decent money, I wanted to wear Lee batons. I wanted

1246
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: to wear my fucking one Louis buiton bag everywhere. I

1247
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: needed to throw it in your face.

1248
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1249
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 3: Now I'm kind of like, you know what I mean, Like,

1250
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1251
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well that's how I feel about Montessori School right now.

1252
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: Every time I see someone, I'm like, I pay.

1253
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: Two thousand dollars a month for my one year old

1254
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: to go to school. I should just have it as

1255
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 2: a billboard at this point.

1256
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: Oh bro, I feel like I'm luxury and that's really

1257
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: probably a regular person thing.

1258
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: But I'm like, now that's a lot.

1259
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 3: That's better than they care, you.

1260
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: Know, I literally, but I brag about it, like and

1261
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: I'm pretty I saw some comedian talk about like how

1262
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: when black people brag when they're rich, Asian people brag

1263
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: wh they're rich, and how white people brag when they're rich,

1264
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely the black person

1265
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 1: that was like, I pay two games.

1266
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 3: I try to find ways in a point where I'm

1267
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 3: feeling a little inferior. Yeah, sometimes people you never know

1268
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 3: they making my like it's I can't explain it, but

1269
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 3: there's moments where people will make you feel like you

1270
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: don't belong in the room there. Yeah. Yeah, that's when

1271
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: I might do a little bit of really. Oh yeah,

1272
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think. The last time I haven't I

1273
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 3: had this story. I told him horrible. It's on our

1274
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: Patreon where I came back from Paris and I was

1275
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: hanging in this Beyonce and jay Z party. It was

1276
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: very small, like thirty people, and after that you couldn't

1277
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: tell me shit. It was me and alex I was like,

1278
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 3: fuck you bitch, and Mionce with like, you know, in

1279
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 3: the air together. So I just kept finding ways to

1280
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 3: bring it up. So we went to like some Spotify

1281
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,800
Speaker 3: dinner that week, and everybody's just like, oh, horrible decisions.

1282
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: Never heard of it. Yes, actually I've been to France,

1283
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: not that you asked, was there whatever, but like I'd

1284
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 3: be trying to figure out a way, but I don't know.

1285
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of when you do have

1286
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: and I know that I came from something, so I

1287
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 3: just can't say it came from nothing. But like when

1288
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: you had that struggle, you want to know. You want

1289
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 3: people to know I belong here too, Yeah, because I

1290
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 3: have a lot of hell of privileged people that I

1291
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 3: know that don't really have that that driver or the

1292
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 3: that that.

1293
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: They're the backstory, they don't need to.

1294
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: Like I hang with this really rich girl sometimes when

1295
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 3: I'm in La, like grew up rich. I think our

1296
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: family's got a fucking castle somewhere. And I never really

1297
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 3: see her tell you anything about her life because she

1298
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: realizes it's so it's not part of her story. Yeah,

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: like everything she's experienced isn't exciting. Like when I told

1300
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 3: her about the Beyonce and jay Z thing, She's like,

1301
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: oh yeah. I'm like, well you met them before. She's like, yeah,

1302
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 3: well I used to hang with the Arnall's when I

1303
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 3: was a kid who own LVMA. That's hilarious And I'm like, okay,

1304
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: it's to know a bitch, But like you know, so,

1305
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I wonder if it kind of shows

1306
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 3: that you don't really have much. But what I appreciate

1307
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 3: is like people that can enjoy with you like. The

1308
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 3: first person I called after the Beyonce and jay Z

1309
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: night was Charlottmgne cover the bed with his wife, who

1310
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 3: was eleven thirty at night. Me and Alex are drunk

1311
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: in the street. I'm like, oh, I tell somebody, And

1312
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: he was so excited and laughing and he's like, y'all

1313
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: in now. I'm like, brouh. The next time I see them,

1314
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: think they put it over the bitch for Paris and

1315
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: it's just this cool, exciting milestone. But maybe I will

1316
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: get to the place where it doesn't matter anymore.

1317
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, hope not no, no, no no. So

1318
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: now that you've traveled the world, you owned companies, you're

1319
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: flying your family out, what advice would you give to someone.

1320
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: That would even just in my shoes? You know?

1321
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: What advice would you give to someone that's playing hasn't

1322
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: fully taken off the ground yet and they've been hovering

1323
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: for a long time.

1324
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 3: I would say, thinking bigger than the biggest thing you're

1325
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: thinking of. I think that we sell ourselves short a lot.

1326
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 3: Whether it be I don't know. This is just made

1327
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: me thinking right. Eating While Broke is currently a podcast,

1328
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 3: it seems like next up is TV show that seems

1329
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: like what that is? Right?

1330
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,479
Speaker 1: But I also want to do touring, which eighty five

1331
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: South has been like just do it, but Dolly's like

1332
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: hell no, and eighty five for South is like do

1333
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: that shit?

1334
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: Why does Dolly say now.

1335
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: She thinks I need to spend more time growing my

1336
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: audience like baby steps and then but I low key

1337
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: secretly want to do ice cube in LA, I would.

1338
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 3: Tell you for this piece of advice, then I would say,

1339
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 3: you do it in the middle. You do one show.

1340
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 3: You do one show in your hometown or where your

1341
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 3: largest base of audience is, and that's LA, right, I'm assuming. Yeah,

1342
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: So it's like you do your LA show. You don't tour,

1343
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: You do your LA show. You practice, you get your

1344
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: biggest fan based there, you already have all your friends come.

1345
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 3: It's probably where all the talent you know is. So

1346
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 3: you do it right there in LA. After you do that,

1347
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 3: then you kind of get your feet wet or the

1348
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 3: space is semi big. Make a Patreon or invite your

1349
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: top fans. Mit fifteen fans really and write fifteen fans,

1350
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: have them sit and wid laugh with you. Uh, maybe

1351
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: put the ingredients out there and be like this is

1352
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 3: what I got, y'all gonna help me make this meal?

1353
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 3: Maybe they just shout at you and they share stories

1354
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 3: with you.

1355
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: When you guys did your Patreon, what were you what

1356
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: was your first Like, did you even think you would

1357
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: make money when you first did the patreon?

1358
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 3: No, we make way too much on Patreon now. I

1359
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: mean I'm sure like there, you know, there's patreons bigger

1360
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: than me. But like we did it before. I think

1361
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: we were one of the first black popular podcasts that

1362
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: we know on there. Like we had our first year

1363
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 3: of year seven, I mean the first year of your seven,

1364
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: and we only did it to make more money for

1365
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: the studio. Mandy and I were like, this shit costing

1366
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 3: too much. We ain't making no money. A friend of

1367
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 3: mine was like, have you heard of l trapo trap

1368
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 3: House something like that, It's like a white podcast. I

1369
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 3: was like no, He's like, they make like ninety round Patreon.

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Speaker 2: You should do You guys were like, dude, du what's

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Speaker 2: that right?

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Speaker 3: I mean, shit, we don't make ninety, but we do

1373
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: make twenty.

1374
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: Get the hang out on Patreon mm hm.

1375
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 3: Get the honest though our Patreon, Like we started a

1376
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 3: high very early of people that really resonated with Mandy

1377
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 3: and I because we were corporate girls talking about sex

1378
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 3: and it was kind of the life that if you

1379
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 3: didn't live it, you'd want to live it, or you

1380
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 3: could see yourself living it like host stories while like

1381
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 3: being overdraft and are you know, being at your desk whatever.

1382
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 3: So we made Patreon. It was to get extra money

1383
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: for filming. I remember a thousand dollars a month feeling perfect.

1384
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: Hell, yeah that's not I know that sounds small.

1385
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So when it got higher, Mandy and I just

1386
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 3: started spelling more of our personal lives on Patreon, and

1387
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 3: it became like we were just talking to fans instead

1388
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 3: of like doing a show. You know, like we have

1389
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 3: so so many guests now that people that really fucked

1390
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 3: with Mandy and Wheezy they want Patreon. Like a lot

1391
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 3: of people enjoy those episodes more. I love like a

1392
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 3: better looking set, but I get it, Mandy and I'd

1393
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 3: be on zoom, I'd be hungover shit. I think I

1394
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 3: was still mollied out on one episode. I was like,

1395
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: oh my god, you guys didn't save anyway, Like people

1396
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: like that shit when you're very raw, and so we

1397
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: offer that. So it's something different. But yeah, I wouldn't

1398
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 3: write your closest fans if it's not Patreon right now,

1399
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: figure out where you talk to them the most, have

1400
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 3: them come and watch. Well.

1401
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: I think this season is the most I've seen fans

1402
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: reach out, which, by the way, I'm absolutely shocked. I'll

1403
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 1: get a DM like please don't stop, please don't quit.

1404
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 2: We love this sir.

1405
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like I promise you're asking the questions that

1406
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 1: we want you to hear, and I'll be like, thank

1407
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: you because I for sure had a shitty day today

1408
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: and I really want to jump off a bridge. But

1409
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: that message just like literally, I know it's random, but

1410
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: you help them. Yeah, I'm like, you taketed the right time,

1411
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: and I will respond that like, Yo, the timing couldn't

1412
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: have been better, thank you for saving my life.

1413
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: Fans too, like we look at other people's numbers and

1414
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 3: comparison is a thief and joy.

1415
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 2: Oh, I definitely do.

1416
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: I'll be like, look at them, but you know now,

1417
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: I look at y'all, and I'll be like, take notes.

1418
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 2: Change when we're.

1419
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: In line to them, right, Like I remember when call

1420
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 3: her Daddy made the sixty thousand dollars DE sixty million,

1421
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 3: right and I was like, oh my god, I'll never

1422
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 3: get me. I was saying ship like that. I don't

1423
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 3: have that. I'm like this podcast makes how much?

1424
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: Like why am I talking like this?

1425
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 3: You know? And we really have to pour into ourselves

1426
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 3: better because we always are looking at something else. I

1427
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 3: do it with my body doing my hair. Shit, I

1428
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 3: was almost like, oh my god, my hair is not

1429
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: rain different. The got my hair, like thinking about all

1430
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 3: this little ship that doesn't fucking matter, and it's like

1431
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 3: we need to really learn how to be happy with

1432
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: ourselves because like I think social media has bucked me up.

1433
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: I'm getting way better at it, but like body, hair,

1434
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 3: clothes and success, they're all the things I see on

1435
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: Instagram and think I'm not doing well enough with h

1436
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: and this is fucked up. But it did happen to me.

1437
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 3: I went to solid Core, which is this like plate's

1438
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: ish cool thing to do. It's in La Chicago, New York,

1439
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 3: Big Cities, Atlanta, and there's a girl on Instagram I

1440
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 3: follow that. I always thought she was like so fucking

1441
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 3: insanely hot. When I was in the workout, she was

1442
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 3: right next to me and I recognized her halfway through.

1443
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 3: She was really struggling, and it's not like it's something

1444
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: to make fun of. You're already working out. But I

1445
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: got in the car and I thought, oh my god,

1446
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: I have I'm stronger than I thought. I was right.

1447
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this girl all the time on my timeline,

1448
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: thinking she's the baddest bitch in the world. And I

1449
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 3: had something like she even said to me. I was like,

1450
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 3: damn bitch, she was getting it right. We don't know

1451
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 3: each other, and I was like, wow, there's something we

1452
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 3: all have that someone else doesn't. So when you're looking

1453
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 3: and you're thinking that, it's not shit me. I want

1454
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 3: kids so bad. Really, yes, I would love to have kids,

1455
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 3: like I would love to have over to you. Oh

1456
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 3: my mom would love to watch over. My mom love

1457
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 3: taking somebody's baby.

1458
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh she's in LA.

1459
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: That's perfect because I ain't got no family in I

1460
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: pay every minute a well.

1461
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 3: Well, my mom will act like it's an inconvenience, but

1462
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: she can't wait to do it. Let me watch your baby,

1463
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 3: Colleen called me, and now I've got to watch this

1464
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 3: damn baby. Now'll get in the house, baby proud anyway,

1465
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you later. Like she loves taking somebody's

1466
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 3: problems on her kids or anything, and like, yeah, but

1467
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 3: I think about that. I think.

1468
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

1469
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 3: I was at a friend's kids graduation, her daughter graduately

1470
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 3: needs her, and I was like, like three people had

1471
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: asked me for a picture when I was in the auditorium,

1472
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: and I remember thinking like, I wonder if they think

1473
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,919
Speaker 3: I'm like living this cool ass like but somebody was like, damn,

1474
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 3: you came from LA to be here. Someone said that

1475
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 3: to me, and I was like, when I could like

1476
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: die to be one of the parents in the front.

1477
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh wow, But you never know, right, Like there's always

1478
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 3: something we all want. I think we all need that

1479
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: little drama in our lives to keep going.

1480
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: You think so oh like the when you say drama,

1481
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: like the need to want something more?

1482
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, how are we going to be an autopilot if

1483
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: we have all we want? Like what do you want?

1484
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 5: Oh?

1485
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: I want this guy's limit.

1486
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: It's funny though, because I used to always want like

1487
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: the marriage and the baby, because I always felt like

1488
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: I was good at business and then I just sucked

1489
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: at personal. But now that I experienced marriage and the baby,

1490
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I'm gonna stay in my business

1491
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 1: life because I suck at it. It's just like, yo,

1492
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: you know what, I have to chop it up to Like,

1493
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: it's just not my forte. I don't know why I

1494
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: can't master my personal but I could.

1495
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 3: It's tough. We all can't because it's not something you

1496
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 3: can control.

1497
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, maybe that's it because I feel like in business,

1498
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: like I will pivot the fuck if it's not working,

1499
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: pivot again, pivot again. But then in my personal I'd

1500
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you went left. I don't even know

1501
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 1: what to say.

1502
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: It's tough. Yeah, money we can control, Like I feel

1503
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 3: like I can make a million dollars easier than I

1504
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 3: can find a good person to date. I mean, it's

1505
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 3: fucked up to say that, but I really do believe that.

1506
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 3: I feel like when it's things you can control, like

1507
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 3: you can't control money. Let's say, like right, like there's

1508
01:06:57,880 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 3: people out there that are working hard as fucking or

1509
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: not getting there, but like you could possibly take up

1510
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 3: another hustle to find somewhere money. Yeah, but I was

1511
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: taking pictures out of Oo pizzeria on the side because

1512
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: they would give me one hundred dollars a night, okay

1513
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 3: for five hours, and I would just take pictures pictures,

1514
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 3: and I would flip them a little bit. You know

1515
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, The pictures of fifteen, but i'd tell

1516
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 3: people with twenty Yeah, yeah, that's like finding that hustle.

1517
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: I was on Craigslist looking for gig jobs. That was

1518
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 3: a caddy girl one day.

1519
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: Like I told you that, But that's what I'm saying. Like,

1520
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: do you think now do you think entrepreneurs are like

1521
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: born out the womb or do you think they could

1522
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 2: go to college and then become an entrepreneur.

1523
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: I don't think entrepreneurs are for everyone, Yeah, because I

1524
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 3: think it's too exhausting. Yeah, Like I think working a

1525
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 3: nine to five, I think the goal for me, before

1526
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 3: realizing I wanted to be an entrepreneur, I wanted to

1527
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: make two fifty at a.

1528
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: Corporate t I'm still praying to hit that too fuch

1529
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: at a corporate job. Oh, at a corporate That to me.

1530
01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: Would have made me not do anything else. Because the

1531
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 3: one seventy five was great. I was living a great

1532
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: apartment and traveling, but my parents needed help, and I

1533
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I need more money for my parents.

1534
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 3: If I had two fifty, that's money I could have

1535
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: to help them and if I want to have a kid,

1536
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 3: I can live in this money. But mind you in

1537
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 3: New York. Yeah yeah, like two fifty in another city

1538
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: might be a million dollars.

1539
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1540
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 3: My rent even then was twenty five d It's crazy. Yeah,

1541
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,560
Speaker 3: But I say all that to say nine to fivers

1542
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 3: are making a lot more money than entrepreneurs. Yeah, you

1543
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Entrepreneurs are out here really struggling.

1544
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 3: It's tough. But I think it's because some people are

1545
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 3: chasing a dream that they think they should do when

1546
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 3: really that's not it.

1547
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: How would they identify the dream that is it though,

1548
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: and from the dream that isn't.

1549
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: I think one if it feels like a passion, are

1550
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 3: you happy doing it? Like? Are you doing it because

1551
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 3: you actually love this? Like? Why do you love making

1552
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 3: eating while broke?

1553
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: I just love great rags to riches stories, Like I

1554
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: have some rich friends and they always tell me they

1555
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: were like in jail somewhere or they were on a

1556
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: ass somewhere, and I'm like, wait, you and you live

1557
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 1: in the seven thousand square Foo mansion in La Oh,

1558
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 1: tell me more. And I just love it, like I

1559
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: would hang out and I just love the stories. I'd

1560
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: be like, okay, but you know.

1561
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 3: And I would say then with your audience and feeling inspired.

1562
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: But I was definitely lucky because I felt like the

1563
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: friends that I have, like if I'm like, damn, this

1564
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: bill was high, I'd be like, you wouldn't understand it,

1565
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: be like try me.

1566
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: I'd be like a thousand bucks to be like, Nope,

1567
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: that bill's high.

1568
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1569
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: I'd really and they'd be like, no, it's high, you know.

1570
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: And so luckily I was fortunate to be with some

1571
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: friends that really like that.

1572
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: I felt like, damn, you're hanging out with me.

1573
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: Like if you and I hung out, I would be

1574
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: lowkey geeked just because you have a great personality, but

1575
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: I would also be lowkey geeked because I'm like, I

1576
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 1: look up to you, like I definitely admire you, you know.

1577
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 3: I feel like that with people sometimes where I'm like,

1578
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 3: are we like we're peers? Right? No matter if maybe

1579
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 3: like maybe my podcast has been going on longer than yours,

1580
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, that's what I'm gonna get, Like it's

1581
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: you appears.

1582
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 1: Well you're more than just a pot Like in my eyes,

1583
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: well you and Mandy accomplished was great, but you gotta

1584
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: think you're a beautiful, attractive woman in the entertainment industry.

1585
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: I have sidebar conversations all the time. I'll leave a meeting,

1586
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 1: I'll be like, this person wants to fuck, and my

1587
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: friends will be like, how do you know, and be like, Bro,

1588
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,680
Speaker 1: I've been in this game way too long. I can

1589
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: tell by the questions the hints they want to fuck,

1590
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: and then I gotta navigate that. So to be attractive woman. Okay,

1591
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: then you're an entertainment then you're an entrepreneurs. Then you're

1592
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: handling all this business. Then you're sale. When I hear sales,

1593
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: nothing excites me, you know how you get when I

1594
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: hear a girl could sell, I'll be like, oh, this

1595
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: is a it says, this is a real, real time,

1596
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: you know. But so I look at someone like you

1597
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, I would definitely be in awe,

1598
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: like you know, like you know geeks, and same with

1599
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 1: my friends. Like I have my homie day storm, I'll

1600
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: hang out in his house or whatever. He literally will

1601
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: only hang out when we work out, which sucks because

1602
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: his workouts are absolutely, terrifyingly terriblely hard workouts.

1603
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 2: Were Like, if I want to have a talk a

1604
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: day storm.

1605
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll be at your house at four to

1606
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 1: work out and it'll be the worst workout of the century,

1607
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: you know, But I still look up to him, and

1608
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: I'll still be like geeked, Like yo, I could walk

1609
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: into your house or borrow your house for the weekend,

1610
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,880
Speaker 1: and but I even though we're friends, I still look

1611
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: up to you, and you're vulnerable. But they're the real

1612
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: inspiration behind my show. They're realize stories and realize advice.

1613
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 3: And honestly sharing that to the world and then you

1614
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 3: receiving that fan feedback and things like that, like having

1615
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 3: the passion that making you feel good learning in the

1616
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 3: middle of your job. That's how you know you keep going,

1617
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But also, I think the

1618
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 3: largest mistake entrepreneurs make is if they have a regular

1619
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 3: job or a steady gig, they leave it for the

1620
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 3: passion before the passion flourishes. Yeah, and I didn't do that,

1621
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 3: Like I was working eighty hours a week, doing horrible

1622
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: and you know, literally coming in with my suitcase to

1623
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 3: the office, like, oh, I went to go see my parents,

1624
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 3: But really, I had a fucking four hundred seat show

1625
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: that we fill down and like that today is different.

1626
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: Now it's double right and it feels great, but like, nah,

1627
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 3: I had to do both. I think living in the

1628
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 3: entertainment industry today is interesting because it could be anybody, right, Like,

1629
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 3: influencers have really ruined fame?

1630
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: You think so?

1631
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I guess I could see that. It's weird because

1632
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: I see, like I feel like they're self made and

1633
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 1: they work very hard, like when you look at the

1634
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, they work hard. But I definitely will

1635
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: say I don't know. I would like to hear your

1636
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: perspective on it.

1637
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 3: I think influencers ruined fame because not saying that they're talentless,

1638
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 3: but content creation as a form of a talent. Like

1639
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 3: if the Internet is gone, then where do you take

1640
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,720
Speaker 3: it and what do you do with it? You know,

1641
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 3: I have a big influencer that reached out to me.

1642
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 3: They're not going broke or anything like they're making like

1643
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 3: maybe thirty fortieth posts, but they reached out to me

1644
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 3: and we're like, I need you to have dinner with

1645
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: me or some shit and influence me to do some

1646
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 3: other shit. Because I realized this is like just what

1647
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 3: if Instagram doesn't want me to do ads anymore? What

1648
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 3: if Instagram stops advertisments for influencers, what if the hashtag

1649
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 3: goes away? Like she was terrified and it was when

1650
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 3: TikTok was about to get banned or something, and I

1651
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 3: was like, damn. I'm like, I don't know half of

1652
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 3: my nas year off of heigi ads. But she was right,

1653
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,599
Speaker 3: like I didn't do anything else. I've just been learning

1654
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 3: this one skill, and that shit is tough because, like,

1655
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, I wouldn't want my kids to be

1656
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 3: an influencer. I think it also inflates when I say

1657
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 3: the ruined fame, like you have movie stars, actors, actresses,

1658
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 3: and even podcasters make fame to me, like it's not real.

1659
01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen people too that will get like ten

1660
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: thousand followers and they all already switch up. I'm like, yo,

1661
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: if your bank account still read zero, who gives a

1662
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: fuck about some likes?

1663
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 3: But the same shit is weird because the likes and

1664
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 3: all this stuff makes you think you're better than you

1665
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 3: are when there's so many more of you, So you

1666
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 3: really have to find a thing that makes you different.

1667
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 3: Like honest, I follow so many girls that are just

1668
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 3: hot and kind of look the same because of their

1669
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 3: clothes or their workouts or whatever. I don't think I

1670
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:10,799
Speaker 3: know their names. Really. No. I remember sitting at Lucy

1671
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 3: and it's my favorite restaurant New York. I always go

1672
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 3: there in the East Village and I was looking at

1673
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: this girl and I tapped her and I was like,

1674
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 3: do I know you? Do we have a school together?

1675
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 3: Genuinely didn't know. I feel like I know you, And

1676
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 3: she was like, oh, I'm an influencer. I was like,

1677
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 3: maybe I follow you. What's your name? Didn't ring a bell?

1678
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 3: Looked at it and I was like, damn, I've been

1679
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: following this bitter a minute, but that's it. You're not

1680
01:14:32,439 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 3: even connecting to the content. Yeah, because it's just grid

1681
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 3: post after grid post up or something something. That's why

1682
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: people like just hilarious Drew Ski a Pretty V they

1683
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 3: fucking stick out because we know what they're doing.

1684
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah and they yeah, but those are also like I know.

1685
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'll say for Pretty V because we had her aunt,

1686
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: she's she's also hard.

1687
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 2: She's like a hustler too.

1688
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: I would say she's she's more of an entrepreneur than

1689
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: an influencer, even though she started that way.

1690
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 2: You know you could. I feel the same with like

1691
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: be simone, but something.

1692
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 3: That I have, something that they do.

1693
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: But I will say I honestly say like and it

1694
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: could be just me vibed, but I would say almost

1695
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: ninety percent of my guests have true integrity. There's somewhere

1696
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: I'll be like after interview reps, I'll be like, wow,

1697
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: I called bullshit and I won't say who, but there

1698
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: was a couple episodes where my team I'll be like, damn,

1699
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: that was a bullshit, meaning like they looked bigger than

1700
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: what they were. And then when I got in, I

1701
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: was like, you don't know your shit, you're a fake.

1702
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,120
Speaker 3: Maybe some people just get lucky.

1703
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: They got lucky, or they didn't name drop like hey,

1704
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,360
Speaker 1: your baby mama helped you, or your mom helped you.

1705
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you give them the credit that they deserved.

1706
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,919
Speaker 3: Strange when people don't credit those that helped along the way.

1707
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,719
Speaker 2: I think it's completely strange.

1708
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 3: Do you know one of them?

1709
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: By the way, if you're on my show and I

1710
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: catch it, I won't say it in front of the guests,

1711
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: but I will go me even the show raps, I'll

1712
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: be like, I called bullshit. They left out somebody because

1713
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: their story isn't adding up and I will literally you

1714
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: could ask my crew, I will.

1715
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:07,600
Speaker 3: Be wait, it was mine, the sugar daddy.

1716
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: Your story was as real as they get.

1717
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 1: But you know, you know you could tell because they'll

1718
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: be a missing gap. You know, they'll be like some

1719
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: part of the story where you'd be like that that

1720
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: doesn't line up, there's something missing there.

1721
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: I can always tell because I like, well, you.

1722
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 3: Know, sometimes the struggle isn't what people like to show,

1723
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 3: right the highlight reels that they need.

1724
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: To show the struggle on this show. On this show,

1725
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: you gotta tell me to credit your wife.

1726
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 3: If you're not giving other people their flower, it never

1727
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 3: takes from you. I was gonna say to you, Charlott

1728
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 3: MANE makes me do that more than anyone like. It

1729
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 3: makes me thank my team so much. Like I've never

1730
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 3: seen anyone be so gracious towards those around him, even

1731
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 3: when I pay him a compliment, just no one else

1732
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 3: around Damn you kill this shit man.

1733
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: That was some So I'm like, oh, okay, I've never

1734
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: really I've seen Charlomagye one time.

1735
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 2: So I literally saw him, was like, thank you so

1736
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 2: much for everything you do for me.

1737
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: Have a good day. Wait, you just met him in Atlanta.

1738
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it, and that's all I said was

1739
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: thank you.

1740
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 3: What every Christian famous person like normal and authentic. And

1741
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 3: I think I made a joke on a podcast and

1742
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 3: I tested it once. I was like, man like, they

1743
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 3: were like, who do you think is someone that you've

1744
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 3: met that's a celebrity that you expected to be different?

1745
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 3: I was like, Charlotte answers the phone every time. I

1746
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 3: think it's very strange. Yeah, because you're so like he's

1747
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 3: literally answered. I could hear him at the breakfast what's up?

1748
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 3: He's monnies me, Like, just really wants to make sure

1749
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: he's accessible to people that he cares about. And I

1750
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 3: think that's what's inspired me to be a really good

1751
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 3: leader and just all around good person when it comes

1752
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: to people that have paved the way, because like, we

1753
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 3: don't see that, we see a lot of I I I, yeah,

1754
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 3: you know. Well.

1755
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 1: Also, I think the cool thing about him is that

1756
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: he has like all black woman team pretty much, and

1757
01:17:58,640 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: he treats all those women great.

1758
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 2: Because I worked for other people and with other people.

1759
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 1: In the industry and it ain't like that it's more

1760
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: of the boy's club. I see the boys getting blessed

1761
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: and the woman getting dirty.

1762
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: And Charlemagne is very much again an authentic person. Yeah,

1763
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 3: Like I heard him on a I had a call

1764
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 3: with him for something else, and the other person on

1765
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 3: the other end of the call was very like, what's

1766
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 3: the word I'm looking for, almost like a shell of

1767
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,440
Speaker 3: themselves trying to show you how great they are. Charlamagne

1768
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 3: was in a T shirt in South Carolina, I think

1769
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: visiting family, or maybe he was outside of his crib,

1770
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 3: but he was like on a chair on a porch,

1771
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 3: just looking like he was chilling, and everybody else is

1772
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: suited up, and he's like, y'all are so lucky for

1773
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 3: me to be on this call. Just I could tell

1774
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 3: you that's what he's thinking. And he's so much of

1775
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 3: himself and still giving you gems. And I was like, Wow,

1776
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: he didn't even feel the need to like do it

1777
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 3: up for some Hollywood people. Yeah, because he knows like this,

1778
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 3: his brand is so raw, and I think we have

1779
01:18:56,800 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 3: to be that way. We can't try to be this

1780
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 3: person that we think other people would like, because they'll

1781
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 3: smell it just like you do. You know what I'm saying.

1782
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 3: People smell that all day every day. You could be

1783
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: a casual listener that's in that YouTube that's like this

1784
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 3: person's a liar.

1785
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, people clock it.

1786
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 3: And for you to know that as someone that's bringing

1787
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 3: these people in, like, I think that says a lot.

1788
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1789
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Eventually we'll get to the space where there's like

1790
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: I can actually call bullshit on the mic. I'm not

1791
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: there yet, I know, but there have been a couple

1792
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: where I'm like.

1793
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 3: Bull shit, what about you?

1794
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: Being like, there's got to be a oh I go

1795
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: in and you can tell because they won't answer the question,

1796
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: And that's how I know it's bullshit. I'll be like, Okay,

1797
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,799
Speaker 1: you're just boying. I'll ask seven different ways. I'm like, Okay,

1798
01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 1: I call bullshit, but I won't say it on the

1799
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: mic yet. I'm not there yet.

1800
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 3: Plus I gotcha host, They're like, oh, like be there

1801
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 3: for the moment.

1802
01:19:52,760 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1803
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: And then also like there's the uncomfortable space, you know

1804
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 1: with our shows, like we dig into the vulnerability a

1805
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 1: little bit deep, and I like to say to everybody

1806
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: it's a safe space. Like if I think there's something

1807
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: that you're going to say on our show that I

1808
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: think is going to ruin your career or cancel you do.

1809
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,839
Speaker 1: You don't even have to send your publicists or whoever

1810
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 1: over to like, oh my god, Colleen or beg me,

1811
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna remove it just on game. I'm just you

1812
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 1: shared your story.

1813
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you. I think that keeping those

1814
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 3: moments like I've seen Megan James, I mean, I don't

1815
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 3: want to talk too much shit. She's spent some money

1816
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: about WTS Studio, but there's some clips where I'm like, WHOA, yeah,

1817
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 3: you know, like I'm kind of surprised you invite someone

1818
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 3: in your space to like do that.

1819
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 5: M h.

1820
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 3: And she's just sticking out of my mind right now.

1821
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm not saying she's like a terrible person, but it's

1822
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 3: a it's a style interviewing that works for her. Maybe

1823
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 3: she's on more streams than almost who knows, But like,

1824
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if I could do it.

1825
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about honestly, like Jason Lee, to

1826
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: be honest, I feel like some of the stuff he'd

1827
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: be doing, I'll be like, well maybe, And I have

1828
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: this conversation my little brother all the time, and I'm

1829
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 1: always like, ego, maybe maybe I should sell out, Like

1830
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: because I look at such and such kind of like

1831
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: how you look at social media, be like, look at

1832
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,720
Speaker 1: this person. It's like they're really honestly, like they don't

1833
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: give a fuck about anybody's career, you know, and then

1834
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: they Jason Lee.

1835
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: At Charlemagne back in the day, I'm Magan James. I

1836
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 3: think you know what you're getting when you go on

1837
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 3: the door. Yeah, And I think people almost it's like

1838
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 3: ze Way. People would say, how the fuck does anyone

1839
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:27,679
Speaker 3: keep going on there?

1840
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: Like, you know, I don't know what ze Way is, but.

1841
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 3: You don't know what she's the black girl that had

1842
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 3: the show on Showtime where she would ask people questions

1843
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 3: and like should Julia Fox. Charlemagne was a guest on there.

1844
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 3: What was her famous one?

1845
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 2: But what was she ask them?

1846
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 3: She would just ask them questions that would make them

1847
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: look bad. Oh really, Like she showed Charlemgne a diagram

1848
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 3: and had them point out someone She was like, oh

1849
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 3: so you think that white people are superior type shit?

1850
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, But like it's like she was one of

1851
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 3: those and I think like people prepare themselves for those

1852
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 3: funny Marco. I don't know how people.

1853
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: Say what that nerves is that the one is where

1854
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: the guy just says like insulting things or something kind

1855
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: of yeah, because I saw that show and I was like, look,

1856
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: I just love that show period.

1857
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 3: Like it's content.

1858
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's content is very good.

1859
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 3: I think maybe it's just content that I can't make.

1860
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, it's hard for me to push

1861
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 3: unless I think something's wrong, like I do Man on

1862
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,920
Speaker 3: the Street for my TV show a lot. Yesterday, this

1863
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: guy talked about how he had a nether girl to

1864
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 3: work or do something, and I was like, he's black.

1865
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 3: Oh what kind of girls you day? And he's like,

1866
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 3: I prefer white. And then I can see the camera

1867
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 3: crewisers in the back, like oh, like really he was like, yeah,

1868
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: I just updated a black girl and they're really crazy.

1869
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, so have you ever met a Karen?

1870
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 3: Were like, well, I don't think that type of way.

1871
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 2: Oh, but there are crazy white women, but i'tely right now.

1872
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: My future ex husband he loves white women. But his

1873
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: thing is that black women's standards are are higher or like,

1874
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: they're not as easy as a white girl, and so

1875
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 1: he lives for the white girls.

1876
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 2: He lives that girl.

1877
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 3: Literally only cheated I mean a white women, to the

1878
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 3: point that I was like, yeah, you must you're dating me,

1879
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 3: so your mom is happy. Yeah, And then I realized, oh,

1880
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: maybe I was just light.

1881
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Skinning up, Like, do you This is completely random, but

1882
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: I have a pet peeve about dating a guy that

1883
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: only dates mixed girls.

1884
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: I can't do it.

1885
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 3: I haven't pissed.

1886
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: I feel like you haven't.

1887
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 3: Only I didn't know, Like you don't know until.

1888
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: You don't know, but when you find I know.

1889
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,120
Speaker 1: For me, I just feel like there's a little bit

1890
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 1: of colorism issues there, Like dudes that are like.

1891
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: I only like light skin I'm like, all right, I

1892
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 2: don't know, that's weird.

1893
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: But I started to think when my ex husband my

1894
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: future that maybe he maybe he genuinely just likes white

1895
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 1: girls and he's just saying that as like a cover up.

1896
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: No, I think you're right.

1897
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:52,760
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, she light white in a different light, Yeah,

1898
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: exactly on some real shit. I think it's kind of

1899
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 3: scary because you really have to clock them as light

1900
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 3: skinn people. You gotta clock them as mixed girls like

1901
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,640
Speaker 3: this shit is not cute for like a man that

1902
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: you're dating to only date. I had a guy tell

1903
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: me once that I was acting dark skin He told

1904
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: me it was crazy that my hair wasn't super curly

1905
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 3: like most mixed girls. Wow. And he was like, you

1906
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 3: talk different. Wow. Yeah I don't.

1907
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 2: Like Yeah, I don't. I won't. I won't.

1908
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Well right now, thank god, I'm like one hundred percent

1909
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 1: focused on not dating, which is this is the longest

1910
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:26,839
Speaker 1: I've ever been seeing.

1911
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 3: That's when they be coming too. I'll be trying to

1912
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 3: act like I'm not focused on dating. I'll walk in

1913
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 3: the club and be like, I'm not looking for anyone.

1914
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: I like how you be positioned in it too.

1915
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 3: I want to date so bad man, but it's it's tough,

1916
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:42,560
Speaker 3: and honestly.

1917
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: How do you juggle a breakup with a with a business. Honestly,

1918
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: I'm terrible.

1919
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for my high school friends scooping me

1920
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: off the floor behind closed doors. Girl, he's gonna be okay,

1921
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, I don't responsibilities, like

1922
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: hate to get more of it.

1923
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 3: But the only things that have kept me from killing

1924
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 3: myself is my dog and my team. And it's not

1925
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 3: because they're encouraging me to stay, you know. And it's like, hey,

1926
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 3: we need you to be alive so we can make money.

1927
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 3: But like, literally, I think about them and I'm like,

1928
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 3: one of the people that worked for me I recently

1929
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 3: found out used to be homeless and thanks me all

1930
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 3: the time for being able to do things for their

1931
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Speaker 3: mother now and like it's fucking wild. I get random

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Speaker 3: texts from a lot of our staff at two in

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Speaker 3: the morning, love working with you, and I'm like, all

1934
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Speaker 3: these niggas is wrong and it's such a good feeling.

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Speaker 3: But I think about that. I think about that when

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Speaker 3: I'm getting down on myself, like how dare you? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like you are helping all

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Speaker 3: of these people. I'm gonna leave my parents alone in

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Speaker 3: the world. And when I tell you, my dog no bullshit.

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Speaker 3: I was just being trauma queen one day. I was

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Speaker 3: like I don't be here anymore, and I looked at her.

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Speaker 3: I was like, who's gonna feed me up with those

1943
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Speaker 3: little things? Like really got to bring you back. But

1944
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Speaker 3: when running those businesses, I'm sure for people that are

1945
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Speaker 3: listening that only have themselves, you probably feel like, well,

1946
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Speaker 3: who do I fight for? You? Fight for your future self? Yeah? Right,

1947
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Speaker 3: Everything is moment, Harry. When you're broke, it's momentary. Sometimes

1948
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Speaker 3: when you get in a big check, it might be momentary,

1949
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Speaker 3: Like everything is kind of momentary. It's just that feeling

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Speaker 3: that will last for a little bit, as strong emotions

1951
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 3: only for a little bit, even when you're crazy in love.

1952
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Speaker 3: It just kind of lasts for a period of time.

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Speaker 3: And I think that when we are down, we feel

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Speaker 3: like it's the end. But you've gotta have faith in

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Speaker 3: your future self.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that. I'm a personally remember that. No,

1957
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Speaker 1: now that I have Zariyah, my daughter, I'm like, yo,

1958
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Speaker 1: if you leave and you the number one gangst the

1959
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Speaker 1: soldier for her, ain't nobody gonna go harder for ze

1960
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Speaker 1: than you?

1961
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Speaker 2: Then then what's she gonna have? And I'm like, shit,

1962
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Speaker 2: I guess, I guess that's it, you know what I'm saying.

1963
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Speaker 2: But I do think too though.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes when you are having a bad day and you

1965
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Speaker 1: have all these responsibilities, I'll.

1966
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Speaker 2: Be like, well, how can I go? I got like

1967
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Speaker 2: sixteen things planned next week that I have to get done.

1968
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Speaker 2: I can't even take the one day off.

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Speaker 3: This is why they said they all done. There say

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Speaker 3: this thing about how you have to have something over

1971
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Speaker 3: two week month. No, I think next days, week or month.

1972
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Speaker 3: I can't remember what it is, but it's basically so

1973
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 3: that you don't get to where you feel like you

1974
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 3: have nothing. There has to be something on the calendar,

1975
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Speaker 3: whether it be a workout, whether it be a nail,

1976
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Speaker 3: something you scheduled for yourself. Even if it's not a trip,

1977
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 3: it's dinner at a cool place. You gotta have something

1978
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 3: because if you don't have that, then you feel hopeless,

1979
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 3: like we need to have those things. My mother actually

1980
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Speaker 3: gets like that. My mom's in her seventies. She gets

1981
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 3: so bored.

1982
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Speaker 2: I can't wait to bring the riots to your mom.

1983
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, baby to bad. She does it with

1984
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 3: random people in like restaurants, especially if they're like black

1985
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 3: and cool. She just be looking at the baby. She

1986
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 3: won't talk either. She'll just start to do this while

1987
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 3: the mom's eating it's fine, and then keep talking to me.

1988
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, weezy, it was such a good

1989
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Speaker 1: time having you that I hope that now that you're

1990
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Speaker 1: in LA, or when you pop in LA, you.

1991
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Speaker 3: Hit me up.

1992
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Speaker 1: Please do and hopefully you know if you pass a

1993
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: rich dude and you want to pull me to my

1994
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Speaker 1: first school, I want to. I want to experience I've

1995
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Speaker 1: never done it girl arrangement.

1996
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Speaker 2: I will. I'm serious.

1997
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Speaker 3: I want to chugger at the website.

1998
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Speaker 2: I want to.

1999
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna check it out and I'm gonna be texting

2000
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Speaker 1: you girl. You would not believe it.

2001
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Speaker 3: Financial domination, Financial domination. You got to make people feel

2002
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: like shiit online and they just send you money for

2003
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Speaker 3: doing it.

2004
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Speaker 1: Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna look up all these pay picks,

2005
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Speaker 1: pay picks, but thank you for taking time out of

2006
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Speaker 1: be a crazy schedule to come visit and cook for

2007
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Speaker 1: me before we close out? Can you tell everybody all

2008
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Speaker 1: the different assets that you have and how to keep

2009
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Speaker 1: up with you.

2010
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm on tour right now, Horrible Decisions. This is

2011
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Speaker 3: our final tours, the climax. We're not breaking up. We

2012
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: just really are like, touring is a lot of work.

2013
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Speaker 3: Can't do it. So check us out on her hive

2014
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Speaker 3: dot com and Horrible Decisions. Visit if you're an up

2015
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Speaker 3: and coming podcaster of a studio in New York and LA.

2016
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Speaker 3: It's super affordable. You can literally record for sixty bucks

2017
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Speaker 3: if you wanted to, or a thousand if you're rich.

2018
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 3: And my TV show Sex, I was confused stream that

2019
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 3: motherfucker because that's the place that got the most mouthed

2020
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 3: to be so really just literally sit in streaming, not

2021
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Speaker 3: really help.

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Speaker 2: No, I want to watch it.

2023
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Speaker 3: It's really fun.

2024
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna watch it.

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Speaker 3: It's a cute show. I go to a brothel this season.

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Speaker 3: It's not out yet, but I've become a processing really.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I sat down with a client.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm definitely watching it was crazy.

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Speaker 3: My favorite episode of all time on there was when

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Speaker 3: my mom did phone sex. That was crazy.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I would be greatest phone sex by

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Speaker 2: the way, maybe you would, I would. I would be phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: Just so I covered the business that does it. She

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Speaker 3: teaches women how to keep them on the phone.

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Speaker 2: And like, I was in a celibate relationship, so I

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Speaker 2: will say.

2037
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Speaker 3: I just got out of a simular relationship.

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Speaker 2: Really, I hated it, and I absolutely hated it.

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01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 1: I undred and then I got with my husband, who

2040
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Speaker 1: was like the opposite, just a SuperH and I was like.

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Speaker 2: This is the best.

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Speaker 1: But it came out of a celibate relationship and ran

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Speaker 1: right to the opposite.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, you.

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01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 3: Need to do three times a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But thank y'all for tuning in to another episode

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Speaker 2: of Eating while Broke. I'm your girl. Colleen, and this

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Speaker 2: is Wheezy, Bye y'all.

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 1: For more eating while broke from iHeartRadio and The Black Effect,

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Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen

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Speaker 1: to your favorite shows,