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Speaker 2: Week eighteen and setting the stage for what should be

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Speaker 2: a pretty interesting playoff tournament, the final field somewhat got

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Speaker 2: a little bit more crystal clear today Saturday, although not

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent, because if you're a Cincinnati Bengals fan,

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Speaker 2: or an observer, or a player or coach, you will

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Speaker 2: be watching the scoreboards Sunday because you're gonna need Denver

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Speaker 2: and Miami to both lose. So Cincinnati, who finishes this

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Speaker 2: season at nine to eight, that would then give them

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Speaker 2: the seventh and final playoff seed in the AFC. And

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Speaker 2: I know there's this group think echo chamber narrative. No

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Speaker 2: one wants to play Cincinnati. Who wants to play Cincinnati. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you all can just pull yourself a big old glasses.

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Speaker 2: Shut up, Juice, and I say that just in fun,

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Speaker 2: and Jess, just everybody calm down. It's only sports talk here.

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Speaker 2: But I love Joe Burrow and I love what the

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Speaker 2: offense does in spurts. They're the reason they're in the

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Speaker 2: position they're in, all right. Although I'll give them credit.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals did their part to stay in the playoff conversation.

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Speaker 2: It was, in fact, they must win game. Why was

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Speaker 2: it a must win game? If they lost, they're done.

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Speaker 2: But they're still alive. They're hanging out and they did

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Speaker 2: their part, all right. But here's the thing. Despite being

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Speaker 2: in control for most of the game Saturday, I saw

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Speaker 2: multiple missed opportunities which buttoned up teams don't do, and

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Speaker 2: that forced the Bengals to finally protect and really hang

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Speaker 2: on to for dear life, a close lead in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter, and Pittsburgh's just a hot mess right now.

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Speaker 2: Fourth loss in a row, Receivers dropping passes right and left.

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Speaker 2: They don't have the edge they once had. But again,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati did enough to win, actually their fifth straight game

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Speaker 2: to close out the regular season. They were playing a

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Speaker 2: team Saturday. The Steelers ten and seven. They're already in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, and I gotta tell you you're heading into

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Speaker 2: the playoffs losing four in a row. That's bad for him,

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Speaker 2: That leaves a lot to be desired, and they'll be

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Speaker 2: the fifth or sixth seed in the AFC, depending on

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Speaker 2: whether or not Chargers win Sunday. So buckle up. It's

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Speaker 2: not going to be a fun eighteen hours for the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. They're going to have to stress out about

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Speaker 2: some other results Sunday, while you better to look inward

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Speaker 2: and ponder the mischances to win earlier in the season.

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Speaker 2: But if you're a glass half full person, you say

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Speaker 2: to yourself, at least the Bengals are in a situation

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Speaker 2: that didn't seem likely or certainly possible, maybe even certainly

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Speaker 2: not probable, maybe not even possible. Back around December first,

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Speaker 2: what did we learn about the Bengals that we probably

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Speaker 2: already know. Joe Burrow when the situation de mans greatness,

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Speaker 2: the dude is simply great. When the season is on

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Speaker 2: the line, he made sure he is there, present, available,

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Speaker 2: making plays when the team needs him most. He took

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Speaker 2: a brutally hard sack of the third quarter, he was

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Speaker 2: He got about five hundred and eighty pounds of humanity

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Speaker 2: been a penalty. But after an examination, walks out of

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Speaker 2: salutes Michael Jackson, picks up his tablet. In the next series,

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Speaker 2: he's throwing dimes to Jamar Chase and Tanner Hudson. That

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden increased Cincinnati's league to nineteen seven.

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Speaker 2: Joel Burrow is the reason that Cincinnati is still in

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Speaker 2: the conversation And could Denver lose to Kansas City Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Sure they could, And could Miami lose absolutely. Frankly, I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of hoping that happens now because I'm willing to

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Speaker 2: admit I'm wrong. And somehow Cincinnati gets into these playoffs

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Speaker 2: and makes some noise. I bet they're gonna get in

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna get boat raced. Maybe not boat race.

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Speaker 2: Someone's gonna ride him like a stick horse, because the

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Speaker 2: peccadillos and sloppiness that's frankly shown up. With this team

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Speaker 2: Could I be wrong? Sure, But here's the deal. The

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Speaker 2: Bengals had a chance to put the Steelers away early,

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Speaker 2: multiple deep trips into Pittsburgh territory, and the Bengals didn't capitalize.

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Speaker 2: They scored on one of their first three red zone appearances.

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Speaker 2: lackluster offensive showing by the Steelers. And remember the last

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Speaker 2: time the Bengals played the Steelers, Cincinnati's defense was embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: We'll give them some credit today, but maybe a lot

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Speaker 2: can change in five weeks. Five weeks ago, the Bengals

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Speaker 2: gave up five hundred and twenty yards in that meeting.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's defense was significantly better Saturday than only allowed one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ninety three total yards into the first three quarters.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals only had allowed ninety one yards thirty three

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Speaker 2: behind the passing yard of Russell Wilson. I'm not so

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Speaker 2: sure if that speaks to Cincinnati's sudden defensive prowess they

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Speaker 2: were lucky you escaped Denver last week, or perhaps Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: now just simply looks like the proverbial drunk crossing the

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Speaker 2: icy street. The Steelers trailed by two minutes with two

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Speaker 2: minutes to play, and the Pittsburgh faithful, all dressed in

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Speaker 2: channeling the Detroit Red Wings, steamstrong, don't stop believing, And

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Speaker 2: it was almost like this stadium anthem, and you say

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Speaker 2: to yourself, Okay, I don't have any skin in the

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Speaker 2: game here. I couldn't care Luke less who wins. But

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of thinking this is a Hollywood inning. Russell

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Speaker 2: a half more bun quarters the Steelers show signs of life,

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati lets him back in the game. Yes, the Bengals

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Speaker 2: are motivated, they're fighting for their life to clap you know,

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Speaker 2: dooyd playoff elimination. But maybe they're just not that good.

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Speaker 2: They're sure as hell nowhere near as good as they

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Speaker 2: were three years ago. With that Lou Anarumo defense. They

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Speaker 2: had guys like Jesse Bates. Then they got some playmakers

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Speaker 2: like Trey Hendrickson, and they have their moments. But when

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Speaker 2: be honest, and that was one of many drops. He

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Speaker 2: said to yourself. All right, Cincinnati, you won nine games

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Speaker 2: at the end of the year. They don't ask Kyle

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Speaker 2: how many, but you may be in for a reconciliation

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Speaker 2: if you back you went into the playoffs. The Steelers

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Speaker 2: now become the third team in NFL history end of

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Speaker 2: the playoffs on a four game losing streak. The last team,

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Speaker 2: of course, a team I covered the nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 2: right now, inconsistent period. The offense couldn't sustain any momentum,

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Speaker 2: been a sub part a month's He's even used the

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Speaker 2: term junior of varsity for an offense, for an identity

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Speaker 2: going back to the Franco Harris Rocky Bliar days. Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: has always had that identity physicality, bully opponents, beat him

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Speaker 2: watch this Steelers team and their inability to gain one

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Speaker 2: minute remaining in the first half, that's just these are

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Speaker 2: defensive walkthroughs and conversations about all the Austin coverages that

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Speaker 2: led to their three you know, they had like three

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Speaker 2: games and eleven days wipeouts by Kansas City and Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: the Steelers still struggled to cover their Bengals tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Burrow went to their tight ends. I mean they were

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Speaker 2: wide open, right. Mike Kasicki looks like a Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: All four targets to Drew Sample were caught. And I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know the canner. Hudson can grand him, you know,

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Speaker 2: not like I actually know who the hell these guys are.

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Speaker 2: But the bottom line is at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: when they're at the history book, Cincinnati will have one

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Speaker 2: pitcher will have lost. And now the Bengals scoreboard watch

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Speaker 2: on Sunday to see if Miami can win. If they

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Speaker 2: surprised if that happens, they're gonna see a good day

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Speaker 2: on a Carson Wentz tomorrow. A lot of pressure on Denver.

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Speaker 2: Denver might win a squeaker and I might lose. Not right,

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Speaker 2: but it remains to be seen. Do I think both

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Speaker 2: that's my opinion. Cincinnati, you only have yourself to look

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Speaker 2: be Cleveland thirty five to ten. Not much to see here.

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Speaker 2: Keep moving right along. You have to give it's a

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Speaker 2: long season. Everybody's already forgotten. I guarantee you've forgotten that

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Speaker 2: Baltimore is actually a team that chewed resiliency. They started

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Speaker 2: their offensive line coach, Joe d'ella Sanders died of a

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Speaker 2: week fifteen, think about it, the Ravens trailed Pittsburgh by

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Speaker 2: they had about a twenty seven percent chance of overtaking

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Speaker 2: beat the odds by winning its last four games. And

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Speaker 2: those four games by a total of ninety two points.

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Speaker 2: I think Baltimore has a culture. Baltimore has a DNA.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore has the type of physical latitude and belief that

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Speaker 2: that mean I believe they can go into Kansas City

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Speaker 2: say it. But there you have it. Pittsburgh and Baltimore

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Speaker 2: will move on, will find out who they play Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati will lie in wait and they have owing themselves

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Speaker 2: to blame for putting themselves in a position whereby they're

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Speaker 2: I call situational handicapping, much more so than statistics. Situational handicapping,

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Speaker 2: because yes, there are opportunities Sunday that you're going to

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Speaker 2: be a very eventful one Sunday, and as always, there

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Speaker 2: welcome in in faz How you been.

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Speaker 4: Buddy, I'm good, Bernie. Hey, nothing illustrates the importance of

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Speaker 4: matter who you bet on, you won. With the Bengals

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Speaker 2: By two tonight well, and interestingly enough, I believe the

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Speaker 2: three five days ago, be given Tomlins record as a

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Speaker 2: But I just don't think the Bengals are that good. Well,

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Speaker 2: before we dive into Sunday, what do your takeaway from

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of plinko in the NFL. I agree

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Speaker 4: one missed field goal. If you're looking to win wagering

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Speaker 4: is if your bet fifty thousand game, that's the only

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Speaker 4: you can bet big on. If you're betting one hundred

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Speaker 4: invest in some sport like college basketball or prop bets

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Speaker 4: that's much more easy to beat.

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Speaker 2: Just for the record, I had the Steelers the Bengals

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Speaker 2: I actually going to dive into this test because there

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Speaker 2: Dolphins laying a pretty healthy number thoughts on that game.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's very difficult for me when you've got

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Speaker 4: Who knows what the what the Jets mindset is? Latest

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 4: Who the heck are the Jets though? To be laying?

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Speaker 4: I could only look towards the Dolphins. I think the

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Speaker 4: who is going to pay this guy more than that

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Speaker 2: Well, Miami has got all the motivation they have to win,

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Speaker 2: I could, which I do think it happens. Is again,

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Speaker 2: it's gone to eleven. And I don't like I love

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Speaker 4: You know, there's a sneaky handicap here. So the first

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Speaker 4: it's they're not gonna have to. The Bengals aren't gonna

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Speaker 4: be playing Kansas City in a Round one. The Bengals, if

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Speaker 4: And so obviously I'd rather play the Bengals than Buffalo.

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Speaker 4: So I'd make the case Kansas City should actually they

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Speaker 4: I think eleven's too much.

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Speaker 2: I agree, yeah, And you knows there's this missing normalere

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Speaker 2: And it's not like preseason football where they don't play

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Speaker 2: Not a game I'm involved in. Do you find any

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Speaker 4: I just bet Carolina plus eight, and I know it's

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Speaker 4: hard to bet Carolina, but you know, Atlanta, They're in

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Speaker 4: a precarious situation. They're going to be spending half their

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Speaker 4: what's left of the Inks. And because of that, there

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Speaker 4: is no way that I would trust the Falcons to

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Speaker 4: by half time. I look to Carolina, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Tampa Bay, I do agree. I'd be beyond

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Speaker 2: shocked if New Orleans stole that game because frankly, the Bucks.

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Speaker 2: So if you've watched them on tape. They look like

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Speaker 2: the NFC South Sunday for the fourth straight year. But

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Speaker 2: you're paying one hell of attacks. I just simply refuse

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Speaker 2: to lay fourteen points in an NFL game. Your thoughts, Yes.

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Speaker 4: I played Tampa Bay first half. I'm eighty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Fine.

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Speaker 4: I laid my seven first half and my seven and

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Speaker 4: a half or nine, And that's the attacks are the

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Speaker 4: problem of gambling on Saturday night. It's probably just going

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Speaker 4: to go higher. Tampa is likely to get the ball first.

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Speaker 4: They've been taking the ball first, and they've been kicking

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Speaker 4: His number now is one to one and a half.

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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's number one wide receiver. If it's a blowout,

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Speaker 4: the second Evans gets the ninety, he's coming out of

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Speaker 2: I want to gravitate to your thought. It's a strategy

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Speaker 2: that I've heard more than one handicapper talk about in

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Speaker 2: week eighteen. If you're looking at, for instance, Green Bay

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Speaker 2: six six and a half. Is that sound about right? Fast?

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Speaker 4: It was right, it's seven, now seven, it's got up

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Speaker 2: It's not a game I'm involved in it all. They've

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Speaker 2: already got their playoff berth, but I would expect them

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Speaker 2: to give an effort in the first half. Is that

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Speaker 2: a strategy you might employ with Green Bay in Chicago?

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Speaker 2: Firing on green Bay in the first half. It's a

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Speaker 2: the first half if they jump out. We all know

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Speaker 4: You're spot on. I gave my clients two plays midweek.

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Speaker 4: Tampa Bay first half mine seven and a half, green

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Speaker 4: Bay first half minus six and a half. Both have

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Speaker 4: moved both teams. We have to worry they're going to

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Speaker 4: they want to keep everyone healthy for next week. Both

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Speaker 4: teams when they win the coin toss of late have

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Speaker 4: been taking the ball. Their opponents always defer, so we

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Speaker 4: get the ball. We get a motivated teams on both

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Speaker 4: the Beyapigs here strike first, strike hard, no mercy first

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Speaker 4: half on both of them. But again they were much

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Speaker 4: much much better to bet them on Wednesday than now.

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Speaker 2: Somewhat under the game radar. Game that's caught my attention.

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Speaker 2: You've got the Rams catching seven at home. They're going

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Speaker 2: to say Jimmy G. But they're not going to start

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Speaker 2: their receivers. Seattle is done and the Rams, you know,

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Speaker 2: to maintain their three c they need to win, but

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Speaker 2: hate to say this. I won't I refuse to bet

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Speaker 2: to my head was I'd be more inclined to lay

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Speaker 2: to seven with Seattle. Then take to seven. Your thoughts,

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Speaker 2: I can't do it. I'm not hear yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you. Because McVeigh has mailed in all

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Speaker 4: these preseason games on top of it is no problem

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Speaker 4: with getting getting smacked around in a meaningless game. Hey,

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Speaker 4: one thing that's interesting. One of the incentives you and

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Speaker 4: Smith has a bunch of incentives.

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Speaker 2: He can make too many six million dollars worth of

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 4: And you know, one of the weird incentives is he

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Speaker 4: needs to throw like sixty nine point eight percent pass

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Speaker 4: think one of the best prop bets Bernie is the

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Speaker 4: second level thinking the running back chardinay his catches to

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Speaker 4: go over two and a half catches. If I'm GINO,

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Speaker 4: all I'm doing is dinking and Duncan and Duncan and

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Speaker 4: dincin and completing my first ten passes. And that means

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Speaker 4: I'm probably noting airing it out forty yards down the

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, listen, you're good at that stuff. I'm just

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Speaker 4: Oh, I actually think I'm going to say, you know what,

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Speaker 4: if Bernie Prout is going to get two million dollars

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Speaker 4: if he completes sixty five percent of his passes. You

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Speaker 4: a little shovel.

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Speaker 2: But Gino doesn't call the place.

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Speaker 4: I don't care call some places. I want my two million.

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Speaker 2: All right, No no argument, no, no no argument. I

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Speaker 2: think your your theory has merit. It's just you. We

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Speaker 2: You're employing. You know logical reasoning, deductive reasoning here and

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Speaker 2: it makes perfect sense. Again, I'm somewhat conflicted on but

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Speaker 2: I can only look to the home favorite Arizona lay

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Speaker 2: spent broke, got their golf clubs packed. Meanwhile, Arizona, you know,

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon, and he's the type of guy I think

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Speaker 2: they can look at his room and say, I want

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Speaker 2: an effort today. You're all going to be on film

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Speaker 2: and where evaluation process begins. I feel like and the

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Speaker 2: four and a half? Brock Party's not going to play,

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Speaker 2: by the way, you know that, ysh, go ahead, FANZ.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think your spot on. You know, I can

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Speaker 4: still lay MIAs two ten and doesn't feel.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah money line, Yeah right.

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Speaker 4: The Niners went all in to win that game against Detroit,

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl hangover. It just wasn't there for them. But

430
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: just I could see them. They're certainly not going to

431
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 4: just mail the game, and I think Arizona wants to

432
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 4: finish on a positive note. In a year they could

433
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 4: have made the playoffs. They were good enough, just didn't

434
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 4: all right for them. Arizona wins the game, and that

435
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 4: means you know what. I know, it's expensive delay minus

436
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: two ten and some places like minus two thirty don't

437
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: do that. But I mean you can get minus two

438
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: ten whatch you can out there at several places. I'd

439
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 4: play the money line. I think they win by three

440
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 4: or seven.

441
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: All right, So this one's interesting. The Chargers are not

442
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 2: laying seven against the Raiders. Of course. The game's played

443
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: here in Vegas about fourteen hours from now. This is

444
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 2: what people need to pay attention to. We already know

445
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: that Jim Harbough'll punched his ticket to the playoffs after

446
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 2: they beat the Patriots last week. But it's about seeding now.

447
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: The Chargers can secure the number five seed by beating

448
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: the Raiders because the Steelers already lost to the Bengals.

449
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, I feel like you get more. I think

450
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: you get an effort out of the Chargers. The question

451
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,679
Speaker 2: is can the Raiders hang that number?

452
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? I have chargers fully motivated. I make the line

453
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 4: point seven to five, and the current line is indeed

454
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 4: minus six point seventy five. What the heck does that mean? Well,

455
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 4: of course, the Chargers are minus six and a half

456
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: in some spots, minus seven in some other spots. It's

457
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: a big deal. The Chargers want the five seed because

458
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: they'll be favored against Houston next week and they'll be

459
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: a big underdog if they follow the number six. So

460
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 4: because of that, they absolutely want this game. But you

461
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 4: know it's all priced in. I will say this, the

462
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 4: Chargers lost this game against the Raiders last year in

463
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 4: Vegas when they quit on their coach and they lost

464
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 4: one was sixty three to twenty or whatever it was.

465
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: That's right, that's good.

466
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so because of that, they want to they

467
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 4: want to wash away that bad taste when they came

468
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 4: to Vegas last year, all lean Chargers.

469
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you get an effort. The

470
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: question is did they cover the seven, which I think

471
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: is entirely possible because their defense will travel. And I

472
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: think the Raiders have won two in a row, but

473
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: it's been a little it's been a little slooky, all right,

474
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: this is an under radar, under the radar game, Faz.

475
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: I genuinely like the Eagles lay in a nice, short,

476
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: comfy number two and a half at home against the

477
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: New York Giants. I feel like Philadelphia wins that game

478
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: by a touchdown. I understand that Saquon Barkley is not

479
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: going to play, but the Giants are an absolute train wreck,

480
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: and I think you'll get enough out of Philadelphia to

481
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: win that game by boarding the field goal. I feel

482
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 2: like it's actually a twenty to fourteen tech game. Your thoughts.

483
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: The problem is, I have no idea how good Philly's

484
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 4: third string quarterback is.

485
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't know.

486
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 4: If it's McKee. I don't know his first name. I

487
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: think he went to Stransford, Bernie. I don't know about

488
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: I can't do it, I don't I'm.

489
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: Just I'm flying at the Giants.

490
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: The he played he played the Eagles the absolutely it's

491
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: such a small data sample point and you know the Giants.

492
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 4: It's interesting, how the heck did the Giant play so

493
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 4: well against the Colts? Was that their last hurrah? Or

494
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 4: does it show that they haven't quit? I don't know, Bernie,

495
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: I got.

496
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: You got guys on film. These guys, they're the players,

497
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: are going to give an effort. It's their job. They're

498
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: on film. Look, you know I covered the Lions for

499
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: ten years and the last year was oh eight, Rod

500
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: Marinelli's infamous oh and sixteen team. He only said one

501
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: thing all year that really stuck, and I thought was intelligent.

502
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 2: He said, one hundred percent of what you do is

503
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: observed one hundred percent of the time by somebody, and

504
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 2: it's usually on film. In the National Football League, if

505
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: you want to keep working in this league, they may

506
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: be here next year, it may be somewhere else next year.

507
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: You're going to give an effort. That's why you see

508
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: these things happen. I can promise you that the you know,

509
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 2: the nickelback for the New York Giants could give a

510
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Flying Horses Pat two if they have the number one

511
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: draft choice. They may be drafting to take his job job. Ye. Yeah,

512
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 2: So it's just that the Giants are so bad, and

513
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 2: I don't think. I just feel Nick Siriani doesn't feel

514
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: like heading into the playoffs with a loss. And there

515
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: I go, practicing my amateur psychology again. But that's a

516
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: nice cozy line. And I just can't see the Giants

517
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: winning that game out right right.

518
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: I could see getting behind the Eagles first half, especially

519
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 4: when I'm I'm worried about you know, how much of

520
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: an effort the Eagles are going to give the entire game.

521
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 4: But you know, if they are good, if anyone has

522
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 4: like a little ingrown toenail and then and the like

523
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: and needs to sit, they're more likely to sit in

524
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: the second half. Hey, by the way, when you cover

525
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 4: the lines, they have to ask you Vegas today, you're

526
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 4: familiar with that publication here in Vegas. I'm I correct.

527
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 4: They used to be weekly, and so I still remember

528
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 4: in that seventeen line. I think it was a backup

529
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: running back case on they said when the Lions lost

530
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 4: their twelve straight game, they said, in those case ons

531
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 4: go rolling along.

532
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 2: I do, I do. I also remember the gym Rome

533
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 2: watch and rooting for the Lions nationally to lose their

534
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: week and of course, the most infamous game, the legendary

535
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky who stepped out of the end zone. I

536
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: believe it was Week four against the Minnesota Vikings, and

537
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: that so he gave the Vikings his safety. Do you

538
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: remember what the score was the day? The final score

539
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: was that day, fens, I do not. It was twelve

540
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: ten Vikings. Good night falls, thank you for thanks.

541
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. I wonder if you know if a

542
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 4: team goes o win seventeen, if the Lions like the

543
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 4: Dolphins and Zonkin company, we'll get together and pop champagne

544
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: corks to celebrate someone being worse.

545
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, uh, why not? They got nothing better to do.

546
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: But there is one other quick sidebar to that game.

547
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 2: Orlowski didn't start. He came in off the bench and

548
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: the Lions are done, like on their own half yard line.

549
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: Orlosky's under center and he's barking out signals. All of

550
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: a sudden, there's confusion and consternation and bark and Orlosky

551
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 2: costs time out.

552
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: And he goes, sure, you don't want to lose a

553
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 4: quarter of a yard for the penalty.

554
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: Right, Well, he comes back out on the field in

555
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: the shotgun, and I'm like, wait a minute. I look

556
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: at Vennis fifty and who's sitting next to me in

557
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: my broadcast partner. I'm like, okay, wait a minute. So

558
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: and sure enough her rolls right and runs out of

559
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: the end zone. And we're still talking about it sixteen

560
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: years later. And you know what they're going to be

561
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: talking about at sixteen years from now. That's just the

562
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: way that season rolled. All right. A couple other games

563
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: and then I'll get to the doozy the nighttime game.

564
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: Do you have any interest in Colts Jaguars? The Jaguars

565
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: are infamous for like being one in eighteen against straight

566
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 2: up and against the spread in their last nineteen final

567
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 2: games of the year, and I think you're going to

568
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: get a pissed off Colts team even though they lost

569
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: last week. The ownership has kind of put everybody on notice.

570
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 4: And all the money's on the Jaguars. With this line

571
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 4: down to three and that's minus three, I could only

572
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 4: look to the Colts three three point two five lean

573
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: Colts million percent.

574
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: I did to Colts win by ten. And by the way,

575
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,479
Speaker 2: if if all the money's on the Jaguars. Well, then

576
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: I want to be on the side of the book

577
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: when when the balls in the air, as simple as that,

578
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: although I can't be because I'm not involved in that game.

579
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Let's get to the most important game on the board, Fez,

580
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: there are some very inconvenient truths about the Detroit Lions

581
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 2: in the last five weeks. Their defense ranks last or

582
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: next to last, and all five major defensive metric categories

583
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: passing yards, rushing yards, yards per play, points per game

584
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: opponent QBR. This is a good Vikings team, but it's

585
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: a you know, one game affair. Again, I cannot lie.

586
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: I grabbed the three last Sunday when you know the

587
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: sendoff came. So I'm sitting with a three. Most people

588
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: I know like the over. I can't touch it. It's

589
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: gone from fifty one to fifty six and a half.

590
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: Give me your breakdown in this game and what you

591
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: expect to happen.

592
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: I expect a very close game. I have these teams

593
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: power rated almost equally, Detroit half point better. I can

594
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: only give them one and a half for home field,

595
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 4: and the spot favors the Vikings because of the Lions.

596
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,479
Speaker 4: You know, Blessed Dan Campbell's heart. It is refreshing to

597
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 4: see him play his hard out on a meaningless game

598
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 4: on Monday night against San fran and he embarrassed the NBA.

599
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna get there in a second, but I think

600
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 4: that was a poor decision tactically. Although it was on

601
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 4: it was certainly consistent with his philosophy. But that's going

602
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 4: to hurt them in this game. It's gonna be very

603
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: close game. Someone's going to win by field goal, so

604
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: I have to take the vikings plus.

605
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 2: Three, so for one it's worth. It was actually more

606
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: of a strategic decisions and tactical unplugged in. I was

607
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: on the phone most of the day Monday with these

608
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: my Detroit peats and real quickly, Dan Campbell was channeling

609
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven New York Giants when to

610
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: a man they voted to try to upset the New

611
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: England Patriots even though they couldn't improve their playoff position

612
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: and they were getting seven and a half points at

613
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: home in almost one to a man. Tom Kauflind admitted

614
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: three weeks later, when they got to the Super Bowl

615
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: and beat the Patriots, that energized them. He was channeling that,

616
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: saying We're not going to play scared. We're not going

617
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 2: to play afraid. Not to lose one last thing, Fez.

618
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: We'll make this quick. You saw the Lions surrender four

619
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: and seventy five yards to the Niners last week, thirty

620
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: four points. Their kicker left seven points on the board

621
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: against a broken down six to ten nine Ers team.

622
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: How much does that bother you heading into this game

623
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: against Minnesota.

624
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 4: Well, it's not just that game. You know all the

625
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: injuries that the Niners have had. I think Giants did

626
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 4: the right thing when they won the Super Bowl a

627
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 4: decade ago. But the Giants had to do that to

628
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 4: build up their confidence. Detroit doesn't need that. They're fourteen

629
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: and two. They could have mailed that game and then

630
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: they would have been fine confidence wise. I think they

631
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: paid the price in this game, and ultimately, I think

632
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 4: if it comes down energy, they could lose by a

633
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 4: point and they would have won by three if they

634
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: hadn't done that last week. But I still say this quickly.

635
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: They embarrassed the NBA because these NBA players, if they

636
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: have anything like they have the flu, they don't play.

637
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 4: They don't play back to back games. And Detroit in

638
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: a tough physical game with the season on the line,

639
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: injuries matter, and they're already horribly injured. They played everyone.

640
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: Screw you, NBA. I'm going to call for a boycott

641
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: of the NBA all year long because of Dan Campbell.

642
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 5: Let's do it.

643
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: Heys, enjoy your sunny Paul. We'll talk to you next week.

644
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: Wild Car Weekend.

645
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Speaker 4: Thank you, Bernie. Hey, Let's go Houston first half. Pick

646
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: them against Tennessee. Houston should play their starters the first half.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, keep it locked. I've got some real lions

648
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Speaker 2: receipts and some inconvenience truths, inconvenient truths. Heading into Sundy.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fratleshow on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Frattles Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: By the way, coming up in about eleven minutes. Mark

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Speaker 2: Medina will join us from the in two. A lot

654
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Speaker 2: to unpack on the Jimmy Butler thing, among other things.

655
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: I know Kawhi made his return tonight. We'll certainly touch

656
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Speaker 2: on that. We're gonna go deep into the Jimmy Butler thing.

657
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: I've done my homework and we had a couple folks

658
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: tweet last night. We're gonna talk about it. I'm gonna

659
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Speaker 2: make good on my promise. Okay, we're gonna talk about

660
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Speaker 2: this in a big way here coming up in about

661
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: ten minutes. All right, Look, I have great affinity for

662
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. Cover the team for ten years. It's

663
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 2: a wonderful organization. I know they haven't had the greatest

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Speaker 2: success on the field. Always when I was there, the president,

665
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Speaker 2: Tom lewand Bill Keenest, Look, they were great people. I

666
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 2: have nothing but good things to say. I am genuinely

667
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: concerned about the Lions Sunday night, and even if they

668
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Speaker 2: win Sunday night. And let me tell you how important

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Speaker 2: the number one seed is Sunday night the last Just

670
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 2: put this way, the Lions win, they get the number

671
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: one seat. They lose, they'll be the number five seat.

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00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: Will likely have to travel to Tampa Bay or the

673
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Speaker 2: Rams and win three straight road games to get to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Here's why the number one seed is

675
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Speaker 2: so important. The last fifty number one seeds, twenty six

676
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Speaker 2: reached the Super Bowl. It's over half nine won the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl lot right, So is this amongst win I

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Speaker 2: say in quotes, Yeah, because There's only been five teams

679
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Speaker 2: in NFL history that have been able to garner three

680
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: straight road winds to reach the Super Bowl. The last

681
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Speaker 2: one was quarterback by Tom Brady four years ago, and

682
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Speaker 2: the one before that was quarterback by Aaron Rodgers. And

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Speaker 2: it's prime fourteen years ago. And we just talked about

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Speaker 2: the two thousand and seven New York Giants with Steve

685
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Speaker 2: f Ezick. They got hot, Eli Manning went on to

686
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Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. Before that, Ben Roethlisberger Steelers did

687
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Speaker 2: it in No.

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Speaker 5: Five.

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Speaker 2: And then you got to go all the way back

690
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Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty five when Ray Berry and the leader

691
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Speaker 2: of the Pats and the defense, you know they went

692
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Speaker 2: on to lose to the Bears forty six to ten

693
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Speaker 2: to the Super were quarterback by Tony Easton. So do

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Speaker 2: you really like those odds? But here's your concern. Since Thanksgiving,

695
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: the Lions defense is ranked lasting points allowed thirty two

696
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Speaker 2: points a game, last and yards per play allowed almost

697
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Speaker 2: seven yards per play. Last in yards per play through

698
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Speaker 2: the air, you last in yards per game allowed three

699
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: hundred and one per game. They've allowed nine rushing touchdowns

700
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Speaker 2: that ranks the defense last, and their opponent's passer rating,

701
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Speaker 2: and this includes guys like Caleb Williams. Their passer rating

702
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 2: is one or nine point seven. That is downright scary,

703
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Speaker 2: especially if you have designs in winning a Super Bowl,

704
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Speaker 2: and when you've allowed thirty two and a half points

705
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Speaker 2: your last six games and the last Super Bowl winner,

706
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: the last ten Super Bowl winners have only allowed an

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Speaker 2: averages sixteen point seven, and there hasn't been a single

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl winner in the last ten years that have

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Speaker 2: allowed more than twenty one points per game. We got

710
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Speaker 2: a situation on our hands, so I am not making

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Speaker 2: any bold predictions. I think if the Lions and Vikings

712
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Speaker 2: played this game Sunday night ten times, the Lions would

713
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Speaker 2: win six, maybe five point five. You get my drift

714
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 2: the slightest margin of error. This is a playoff game.

715
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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold's never been in a playoff game to the

716
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Speaker 2: best of my knowledge, so it'll be a little different

717
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Speaker 2: dynamic and that Detroit crowd will bring it. But that

718
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Speaker 2: defense is the defense. The team is depleted. It all

719
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Speaker 2: started when Aiden Hutchinson went down. He commanded a double team.

720
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Speaker 2: They held it together from there. Alex Angeloni went down

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Speaker 2: DB's Malcolm Rodriguez at one point. There are eleven Lions

722
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Speaker 2: players on IR right now that started at one point

723
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Speaker 2: for that defense. So is it too much to overcome

724
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Speaker 2: the thought of their dream season is basically been curtailed

725
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Speaker 2: by nothing better than bad luck, And so it's a

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Speaker 2: it's a bitter pill to swallow. You got two fourteen

727
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Speaker 2: and two teams, and yet you know you've got a

728
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Speaker 2: situation where if the Lions win, they get a week

729
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Speaker 2: off to lick their wounds, and then they'll get two

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Speaker 2: home games. So I can only say that there's a

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Speaker 2: great concern for Sunday Night. You got to take them

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Speaker 2: one at a time. Coming up, there should be great

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Speaker 2: concern for the Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler and pat

734
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Speaker 2: Riley because this is really skating off the rails pretty quickly,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it's a good look for anybody

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Speaker 2: coming up. We talked with Mark Madeina and Medina Magic.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

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Speaker 2: We got so much to get to so little time,

747
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Speaker 2: and in fact, that's our cue. It's that time. Mark

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Speaker 2: Medina Medina Magic joined us every Saturday night at midnight

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Speaker 2: Pacific time in the Bernie Frattle Show, fifty two weeks

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Speaker 2: out of the year. And there's always storylines. There are

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00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: always headlines, and Mark, I have to begin. I have

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Speaker 2: to begin. We'll certainly get to Kawhi and other things,

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Speaker 2: but I have to begin with this Jimmy Butler saga,

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Speaker 2: which went from zero to one hundred this week. And

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Speaker 2: here's where I want to start. You've got Pat Riley

756
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Speaker 2: and this is not his first barbecue. He had a

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Speaker 2: situation with Tim Hardaway, Alonzo Morning, Dwayne Wade. He'll let

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Speaker 2: you go if he doesn't watch you anymore. He even

759
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: traded a shack, he traded Sean Marion. So now it's

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler's turn. What was the tipping point where Pat

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Speaker 2: Riley vowed not to trade Jimmy Butler to a seven

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Speaker 2: game suspension for contract detrimental to now they're listening to trade.

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Speaker 5: Offers well as far as that tipping point that changed

764
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Speaker 5: a little bit of their tim was Butler's press post

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Speaker 5: and press conference after Indiana, where you know, he talked

766
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Speaker 5: about that he wanted to feel happy, and he made

767
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Speaker 5: it clear who feels happy in Miami off the court,

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Speaker 5: But when he was asked if he could feel happy

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Speaker 5: with Miami on the court, he said probably not. There's

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Speaker 5: obviously a lot of questions just about his overall effort

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Speaker 5: and attitude. But one thing that I will stress burning

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Speaker 5: is I'm not surprised about any of this. Even when

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Speaker 5: the Heat released pat Riley's statement, we have to look

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Speaker 5: at what he technically said and interpreted accordingly. He said

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Speaker 5: we are not trading Jimmy Boler, but that only meant

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Speaker 5: in the present tests that did not wipe out any

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Speaker 5: scenario that they could trade Jimmy Bowler in the future.

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Speaker 5: And so what I'm concluding is that this was a

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Speaker 5: game of chicken for a while while now and the

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Speaker 5: Heat were seen of Jimmy Butler with the blank and

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Speaker 5: he certainly has once or twice.

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Speaker 2: Good point, Mark, And let's get to the second layer, because,

783
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Speaker 2: as I tweeted, this has a lot of layers and

784
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Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna get to all of them. Jimmy

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00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 2: Butler shorts aren't clean either. Come on. Now, Chicago refused

786
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Speaker 2: to give Butler a MAX contract and they traded him

787
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Speaker 2: to Minnesota. Got a bunch of young players. Then in

788
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: Minnesota similar Butler was more similar to the Miami situation.

789
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Butler was unhappy with his contract, requested a trade. But

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Speaker 2: Butler was only twenty nine. Then they sent him the

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia for three or four guys Dario Sark I don't

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Speaker 2: remember the rest. Then after one season in Philadelphia, the

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Speaker 2: seventy six ers said, we don't think we're gonna pay

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler. We'd rather pay Tobias Harris and Josh Richardson

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Speaker 2: and Al Horford. So now Butler's on his fourth team

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Speaker 2: and he wants out there. Okay, man, how much of

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Speaker 2: this is on Jimmy Butler. Let's maintain an objectivity here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, he's obviously certainly not blameless, and I

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Speaker 5: think the thing to add an extra wrinkle with Miami

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Speaker 5: that's different than previous teams. Some people, including Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 5: that are fans of his, would chalk up the previous incidents,

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Speaker 5: specifically in Minnesota and Philadelphia, as a product of Look,

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Speaker 5: he was a veteran player that worked really hard, and

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Speaker 5: he didn't feel like his younger teammates were staying up

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Speaker 5: with him on that level. Here with the Miami Heat,

806
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Speaker 5: they're all about work ethic and being in great shape

807
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Speaker 5: and competing and that's up until the season why this

808
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 5: match seemed to be made in heaven. But there was

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Speaker 5: a lot of things that made a turn for the worst.

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Speaker 5: He was dealing with some injury issues, you know, during

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Speaker 5: the playoffs last year, and the Heat aren't necessarily going

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Speaker 5: to hold that against him. But what they did hold

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Speaker 5: against Stem and Riley made it clear on the record

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Speaker 5: was when Jimmy Butler was saying, well, if I it's healthy,

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Speaker 5: we wouldn't have lost in the playoffs, and he didn't

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Speaker 5: take high to that. You're either available or not. And

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Speaker 5: then the other thing is the Miami Heat made it

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Speaker 5: clear that they have enough concerns about Jimmy Butler's their

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Speaker 5: ability that they're not going to sign him to an

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Speaker 5: extension when he was eligible this past summer, and so

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Speaker 5: a lot of times, even though he's still under contract,

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Speaker 5: those decisions kind of provide clarity on where either party stands.

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Speaker 5: And so with that, the attitude's been different with Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 5: and now it's just been a lot of different twists

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Speaker 5: and turns this season with his play and then him

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Speaker 5: wanting to get a trade.

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Speaker 2: Toby Mark madeIn and Medina Magic every Saturday night, twelve

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Speaker 2: midnight Pacific on The Bernie Fratto Show. Marcus Our Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio insider Guru. All Right, so today, right now,

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Speaker 2: we are now officially on January fifth, Mark, and the

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Speaker 2: suspension concludes two weeks from tonight January nineteenth, when the

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Speaker 2: Heat will play the Spurs. Do you believe that Butler

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Speaker 2: will be traded by then, and if not, do you

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Speaker 2: believe the Heat might even consider extending his suspension.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot of things unpacked here because I

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Speaker 5: think that we're going to expect the NBA the players

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Speaker 5: union to file a grievance. They've all already made it

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Speaker 5: clear they don't agree with this, you know, from a

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Speaker 5: union standpoint, So there's going to be some back and

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Speaker 5: forth there but I think that the suspension will still hold.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it goes past seven games. But hear

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Speaker 5: me out, Bernie. Even though clearly the Heat have changed

843
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Speaker 5: their mind about Jimmy Butler about we're not trading him,

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Speaker 5: we also have to keep in mind what exactly have

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Speaker 5: they said in the latest statement. They didn't say we're

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Speaker 5: now trading Jimmy Boler. They just said we're listening to

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Speaker 5: all offers. They're going to listen to offers, but gauging

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Speaker 5: the marketplace, I don't think that there is an offer

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Speaker 5: that a team is going to be willing to give

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Speaker 5: up that satisfies what Miami is looking for. When you

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Speaker 5: look at some of the natural fits, like you know,

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Speaker 5: the Golden State Warriors or the Loss Angels, Lakers, or

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Speaker 5: the Denver Nuggets, they would all love to have Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 5: But what are they willing to give up to get him.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that any of these teams want to

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Speaker 5: stirp away some of their roster depths, and I think

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Speaker 5: at Barness to Miami, they're not really attracted to what

858
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 5: any of those teams have to offer, and will conclude

859
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 5: that even a Jimmy Butler that is not playing his

860
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 5: best basketball and clearly, as upset with the organization, is

861
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: much better off stayin put than trading him away for

862
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 5: a bunch of role players. And so I want to

863
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 5: be surprised Berning, even with all this messiness going back

864
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 5: and forth, and he's still with the Miami Heat for

865
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 5: the rest of the season. And that's the ultimate game

866
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 5: of chicken, because I think Miami essentially is daring Jimmy

867
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 5: Butler to continue this conduct through the rest of the season,

868
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 5: compromising the team's playoff potential, and then entering free agency

869
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 5: as a player that might not have as much market

870
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 5: value as you once would. And I think from Miami standpoint,

871
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 5: they're looking at two ways. One, the best case scenario

872
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 5: is they're all able to reconcile enough for him to

873
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: finish out the season, still play at a high level,

874
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 5: and he leaves as a free agent, but they now

875
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 5: have financial flexibility to work with as opposed to trading

876
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 5: him for players they may not really won in the

877
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 5: first place.

878
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 2: Well, Mark, we're totally on the stand page two things.

879
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 2: First of all, I know the legal file aggrievance. They

880
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 2: already issued a statement of these players association, but that

881
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 2: you know, well, that could take a year to resolve.

882
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 2: So that's a big nothing to me. And I know

883
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 2: he's going to lose two and a half million dollars

884
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: in salary. But the larger issue, which you teased just now,

885
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: so Butler has already issued a preferred list. He likes Dallas,

886
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 2: he likes Goold and State who you mentioned, he likes

887
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: the Phoenix Suns. But if you really look at this

888
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: from the inside, each one of those rosters that have

889
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: to trade three or four players to make this happen,

890
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 2: Potentially the Sons would have to have Bradley be a

891
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: wave as no trade clause. And oh, by the way,

892
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: given all the complications in the CBA, it's my understanding

893
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: that teams are not necessarily allowed to take back more

894
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 2: salary in a trade. So that makes this deal, I believe,

895
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 2: almost impossible. To your point, I don't think he's going

896
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: to get traded.

897
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, think about the inverse of how Miami

898
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 5: handled the negotiations to get Damian Lillard before last season.

899
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 5: It was the idea that they would have to give

900
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 5: up a lot of pieces to get a star player.

901
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 5: They didn't want to do that either, and so I

902
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 5: think that they're operating on both ends of the spectrum.

903
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: If they're going to trade a star player, they expect

904
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 5: a massive haul in return. If they're going to trade

905
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 5: for a star player, they're still going to want to

906
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,879
Speaker 5: keep most of their depth. And so even though these

907
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 5: are clearly two distinct different trade possibilities, that common denominator

908
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 5: is the Miami heat. They don't believe in rebuilds. When

909
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 5: they're making a deal, they want to still make sure

910
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 5: their employoff to tension, and they'll very much value maximizing

911
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: connuity more than anything else. And the last thing is

912
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 5: they're always going to do what they feel is best

913
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 5: for the organization, as opposed to feeling like they have

914
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 5: to do something because their star players want them to

915
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 5: do it.

916
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Last thing on this subject, and we'll move on. How

917
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: much can you ascribe as a template the way the

918
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: Paul George situation played out last year with the Clippers

919
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: and extrapolate to the way we expect a Jimmy Butler

920
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: thing to play out. Secondly, as you know, this CBA

921
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: is far more restrictive. It's almost it's as close to

922
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: a hard cap as the NBA has ever had, which

923
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: makes deals like this difficult. And the third thing, and

924
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: this is the one mark maybe you should have asked first.

925
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 2: I don't the heat, to the best of my knowledge,

926
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 2: is still consider are one of the you know, better

927
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: desirable destinations in the NBA. So why why did this

928
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 2: goes so sour with Jimmy Butler?

929
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 5: Well, the answer to that first part of why I

930
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 5: went so sours, I think it was the contract extension negotiation.

931
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 5: You know, obviously Jimmy's Butler is a great competitor, but

932
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 5: like with any star, he expects to be paid accordingly.

933
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 5: When that doesn't happen, you know, they tend to be different.

934
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 5: I think that's really the crux of it. If he

935
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 5: would sign to an extension, there won't be any complaint

936
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 5: about his role or his comfort level with the team.

937
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 5: But I will push back, Yes, your point about the

938
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 5: hard cap and the spending restrictions that has hit all teams,

939
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 5: So that's part of the equation here. But I think

940
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 5: that's this is much georgeous situation last season because for

941
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 5: all the shortcomings that Paul George has had with his

942
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 5: health and his play, he is never he was never

943
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 5: demonstrative with the Clippers. Even with him leaving, he made

944
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 5: it clear that he owed he felt like he had

945
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 5: a lot of respect and gratitude to Lawrence Frank, the

946
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: president basketball operations, and Steve balmer Donor. He just felt, well,

947
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: the Philadelphia seventy six ers are off of me substantially

948
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 5: more money, and I'm going to make a business decision.

949
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 5: And so I think that is a clear contrast with

950
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 5: how Jimmy Puller is reacting.

951
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm glad you made that distinction because I was alluding

952
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: to mechanically how this will play out, not necessarily, not

953
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: necessarily the tenor or the attitude or the yeah.

954
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 5: But I will with that, I think you're onto something

955
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 5: about our players in their health. The best ability is availability,

956
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 5: as Bill Parcells famously said, And so with the Clippers, yes,

957
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 5: part of the equation was second Apron concerns, but the

958
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 5: other equation was health. And look, they signed Kawhi Leonard

959
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 5: to an extension, but despite his injury, his true but

960
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 5: I think they've made the calculation well, Kawhi Leonard, when available,

961
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 5: is still a much better basketball player than Paul George.

962
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: So if we're going to have to choose one or

963
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 5: the other, they'll go with Kawap. But you know, it

964
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: sets these things up or teams that have to make

965
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 5: very tough decisions that they probably wouldn't have made if

966
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 5: it wasn't for you know, the second Aprin salary cap

967
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 5: concerns that you outlined.

968
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 2: Just take ten seconds to respond to a statement that

969
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: one of my Twitter followers just sent. He says, Butler

970
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: ops in and ends up like John wall I don't

971
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: think he means ops out and dude is out of touch.

972
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: Respond to that.

973
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean if he becomes a free agent this

974
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 5: summer and things stay status quo, that very well could

975
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 5: be the case. Now, knowing how Jimmy Bowler is, he

976
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 5: could dramatically change his fortune with just his play, and

977
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, his value as a free agent

978
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 5: will be high, including interest with the Heat. So I

979
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 5: think again, and the Heat are gonna canvass the landscape.

980
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 5: They'll take a lot of calls, and I'm sure they'll

981
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: receive a lot of calls, and after the dust settles

982
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 5: lead into the trade deadline of February sixth, I truly

983
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: believe they'll make a calculation. You know what, We're just

984
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 5: gonna keep Jimmy Bowler on the team and foul plays

985
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 5: out the rest of the season, and if he wants

986
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 5: to leave, he can do so as a free agent

987
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 5: in the summer.

988
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 2: And of course the irony. I believe. Jimmy Butler issued

989
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 2: his statement prior to the season saying, no Shenanigans this year.

990
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?

991
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 5: It's the old thing? Watch what they do now? What

992
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 5: they said?

993
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get I get some cookies out of Petty

994
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: Cash for remembering that one. All right, you were there tonight.

995
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard not bad, twelve points, hid a couple of threes, boy,

996
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you honestly, and the Clippers look pretty good.

997
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: This is not a bad starting lineup. If Kawhi Leonard's healthy,

998
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 2: with Zoo Backhard and Poll and Chris Dunn and Nicholas

999
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 2: Patum coming off the bench and Derek Jones coming off

1000
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: to not bad, could this team make some noise in

1001
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: my nuts?

1002
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 5: No, they very well could be. Think about this, Bernie.

1003
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 5: There's seventh in the West right now, so at the

1004
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 5: season end of the day, they would be in the

1005
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: play tournament. But they're only two and a half games

1006
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: behind Houston Memphis for second and third in the West,

1007
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 5: and now they have Kawhi Leonard back. Now, just because

1008
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard's back doesn't mean all's well, that ends well,

1009
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 5: because Kawhi has an injury history as we all know

1010
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 5: right now, tylu And I asked him how many games

1011
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 5: or how long has he in the then he'll be

1012
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 5: on a miss restriction because he only played nineteen minutes today.

1013
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 5: He said he doesn't know. It's about sure the swelling's down,

1014
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 5: So this is going to be a day to day process.

1015
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 5: And even when he gets out of them and in

1016
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 5: restrictions and starts playing, you know, the thirty minutes plus range.

1017
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 5: Kawhi Leonard made it clear when I asked what he

1018
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 5: has to do to better his odds at staying healthy

1019
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 5: the rest of the seas in this he has to

1020
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 5: keep the same routine that he was doing during his

1021
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 5: injury to maximize those chances. And what does that look like, Well,

1022
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 5: only Kawi truly knows because he doesn't share all his

1023
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 5: details about his regiment, But roughly speaking, it's about doing

1024
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 5: a lot of postgame recovery on off days, doing a

1025
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 5: lot of things in the weight room, in the trainer's room.

1026
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 5: So really expect this to play out the rest of

1027
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 5: the season. But I get to your point, if all

1028
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 5: things are reasonably status quo. With Kawhi Leonard and the

1029
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 5: depth of Clippers have, they very well could be one

1030
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 5: of these screw contenders in the West.

1031
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,760
Speaker 2: Why did they need to play in more than twenty

1032
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: minutes for the entire season? They literally go ten deep

1033
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 2: with Kevin Porter and Mere Coffee and Derek Jones, they

1034
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 2: literally go ten deep. Why not just manage his minutes

1035
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: and have him there. He doesn't need to play thirty

1036
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: minutes to be effected.

1037
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, we'll see how this plays out. They

1038
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 5: did play the Atlanta Hawks today and you know, they're

1039
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: a team that made some noise in the NBA Cup,

1040
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 5: but they're not the best of the best, so they

1041
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 5: do have a lot of depth. But I think that

1042
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 5: because of this min in restruction, at least in the

1043
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 5: short term, this will give them clarity on how could

1044
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 5: is the Clippers with at least just a limited why

1045
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 5: Leonard and leaning on that depth.

1046
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 2: But first half points is pretty good, Bud.

1047
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And in an ideal world though, fast forward the

1048
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 5: playoffs and they're going to make a run at it.

1049
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 5: Kawhi is going to have to get the thirty vn range.

1050
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 5: But yeah, to your point, at least in the short term.

1051
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 5: They have to do this because of his health, but

1052
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 5: you know, they very well could hold the fork down.

1053
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 5: I think it's a testament that even without Kawhi Leonard

1054
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 5: playing the first thirty four games, they were seven in

1055
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 5: the West. It has a lot to do with James

1056
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 5: Harden encouraging his play, you know, kind of embodying that

1057
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 5: number one option that he was doing in Houston. But

1058
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 5: unlike in Houston, the team is really reliant on ball movement.

1059
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 5: So you have guys like Norman Pale and a Beata

1060
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 5: Zoobot and a Mere Coffee and Terrence Mann, you know,

1061
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 5: scoring on a pretty consistent basis.

1062
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 2: Talking about Mark Medina Medina Magic every Saturday night, twelve

1063
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 2: midnight on the Bernie Frattle Show, Pacific time. All right,

1064
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Lebron before I bash him

1065
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: for another supercilious statement. We have to be honest. His

1066
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: Jersey sales are still strong, his TV ratings are still strong,

1067
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: He's opposing ticket sales when he plays road games are

1068
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: still strong. But when he comes out and says I

1069
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 2: could play five to seven more years, that tells me

1070
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: he actually wants to play five to seven more years.

1071
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: Why don't you just unpack what I said and take

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Speaker 2: it anywhere you want to take it.

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Speaker 5: Well, Bernie, this is what sports talk ray is all about.

1074
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 5: You agree on something, you disagree on other things. Here,

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00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 5: I'm going to disagree because I think the context of what.

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Speaker 1: He was saying.

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00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 5: The heir she feels like he could but only but

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 5: he's not going to do that because you will only

1079
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 5: play if he feels like he's playing up with standards. Now,

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00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 5: what are those standards? He's got to be playing at

1081
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 5: all star caliber levels. I think he was saying. If

1082
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 5: it was about just the saying the rest of his

1083
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 5: career and still being able to be good enough to

1084
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: be part of the rotation, it could be five to

1085
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 5: seven years. But because it's about still being one of

1086
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 5: the elite players in the league, being the best player

1087
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 5: on the team, it's going to be a lot shorter.

1088
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 5: So he hasn't said when that final season is, but

1089
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 5: you know, you look at his contract. He can opt

1090
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 5: out of his contract this summer, and I think what's

1091
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 5: going to happen is either next season or the following

1092
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 5: season will be the final year. Now he's made a

1093
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 5: clear Quakers success isn't necessarily the only indicator because he's

1094
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 5: already won four championships. But I want to be surprised

1095
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 5: part of the variable and how competitive can this team

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00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 5: truly be, because even though his resume is enough to

1097
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 5: be at first bound hold, having that chance to get

1098
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 5: a fifth ring is pretty important.

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: I did not hear this come out of his mouth,

1100
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 2: but I was told from someone I trust that Lebron

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00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: actually said the other night admitted that he believes Jordan

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00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 2: is actually the greatest of all time. Did that come

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00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: out of his mouth?

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00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 5: I think he back and forth. He was talking about

1105
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 5: because the context that he surpassed Michael Jordan for most

1106
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 5: thirty point games in his career. He was talking about

1107
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 5: how it's an honor to, you know, be part of

1108
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 5: the comparisons on who's better who's not. He didn't say

1109
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 5: he's better or or MJ is better. It was more

1110
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 5: about the conversation. What was funny was Anthony Davis Pokes

1111
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: had some fun at his teammates expense, saying, well, it

1112
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 5: took Lebron seven more seasons to get more thirty point

1113
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: games than m J. So there's always going to be

1114
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 5: the never ending debate on you know, do your reward

1115
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 5: Lebron for his longevity with play more years. You know,

1116
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan didn't play as many years, but he came

1117
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 5: out of retirement twice. Uh. And you know, maybe that

1118
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 5: benefits for in the restart button a little bit, but uh,

1119
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 5: you know, the reality is both players have a case

1120
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 5: of their own to be the goat, and that's what

1121
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 5: sports bars are for for fans to discuss that.

1122
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a it's you know, a mindless exercise. I

1123
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 2: think unless you saw a magic court side, which I did,

1124
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 2: unless you saw Jordan courtside, which I did and Lebron courtside,

1125
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Speaker 2: I think people have to recuse themselves. And people know

1126
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: where I weigh in on this, and yeah, I realized

1127
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 2: Lebron scored more points than anybody in the universe and

1128
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: he reminds us of that. But yeah, we'll save that

1129
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Speaker 2: for a different day. People know where I stand. I

1130
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 2: want to let's close by giving Wemby his flowers and

1131
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why, because not only is Victor Wemba

1132
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: Yama continuing to put up a stellar effort on a

1133
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 2: nightly basis, the Spurs are actually winning now, Okay, so

1134
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 2: this is an organization. They're above five hundred. They're starting

1135
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: to find their way and they could find their way

1136
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: into the playing tournament. It feels like Wemby doesn't get

1137
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: enough respect from the way I see it.

1138
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree clearly, this whole idea that in his

1139
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 5: rookie season, oh well, Victor one Beanalma doesn't impact winning enough.

1140
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 5: I think what it really showed was he played with

1141
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: a lot of teammates that just weren't good. And now

1142
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 5: this team has more veteran leadership around him, most notably

1143
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 5: with Chris Paul and Harrison Barnes and Victor one Beanyama

1144
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 5: has taking his game to another level. And I know

1145
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 5: to begin the season there's some short term growing pains

1146
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 5: about his three point shooting and to what extent he

1147
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 5: relies on that. But it's the modern MBA, the idea

1148
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 5: that a big guy just has to be this traditional

1149
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 5: post up big that's in the past now, and so

1150
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 5: Victor has shown that he can literally do it all

1151
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 5: on both ends of the floor. And I think the

1152
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 5: other thing that's to his advantage that we've already seen

1153
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 5: is he's a hell of a worker. He's a student

1154
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 5: of the game, and he's really smart. You combine all

1155
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 5: those things, and your ceiling gets dramatically bigger as a

1156
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 5: young player, because a lot of times young players are

1157
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 5: just getting by because of their talent and their athleticism

1158
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 5: and their and their youth and their ability to recover quickly.

1159
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 5: He has all those attributes, but he has the veteran

1160
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 5: thinking man's game already as a young player. So with that,

1161
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 5: I think you're just going to see dramatic improvements every

1162
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 5: single season where it doesn't take long that you know

1163
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 5: he is in you know, superstar status.

1164
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 2: And again they're they're winning. So that's the ultimate. Of course,

1165
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: acid tests. Mark great stuff is always I wanted to

1166
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: go deep into the Jimmy Butler thing. We did. I

1167
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: think we covered it all, and I think the story

1168
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 2: will continue to have more legs and I'll end at

1169
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 2: the same land and every week, can't wait to see

1170
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: what the twenty four to seven news cycle brings us

1171
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 2: for next Saturday night.

1172
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll talk to me again next switch.

1173
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: Probably in some former fashion. All right, Mark gets some

1174
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: rest pal, all right, take care of them. That is

1175
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: Mark Medina, Medina Magic. And of course you hear him

1176
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 2: every Saturday night here on the Bernie Frattle Show at

1177
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 2: twelve midnight Pacific. We try to bring in the latest

1178
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: in the NBA and get down deep, a little bit

1179
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: below the surface and try to, you know, bring it

1180
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: to you with the journalistic bent as it were. So anyway,

1181
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 2: coming up, we got to dive back in the NFL.

1182
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: We are we are certainly again just hours away from

1183
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: the resumption of of week eighteen, and we're gonna do

1184
01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 2: a little thing we call record Watch because at there

1185
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: are a bunch of records. We know that Derek Dickerson

1186
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: can rest easypal, your record ain't going to be broken.

1187
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: But Kain's like Jerry Reich, Tory Holt, Aaron Rodgers, Drew

1188
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: Brees and Moore, they actually have records on the line

1189
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 2: that could be broken. Sunday True Story. By the way,

1190
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 2: football fans, be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio

1191
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 2: every Sunday morning beginning at ten am Eastern seven am

1192
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 2: Pacific for Countdown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM, Brian no,

1193
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, Professional Better Mom Man, Bill Krackenberger. Have you

1194
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 2: covered three hours before kickoff? Every Sunday morning, listen to

1195
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: Countdown to Kickoff, presented by bet MGM. Right here on

1196
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app, we go back

1197
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 2: to the NFL Keep it Locker, listen to the Bernie

1198
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show h on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're

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Speaker 2: back on the Bernie Fratle Show, Fox Sports Radio. We

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01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 2: are coming to you live from the tiraq dot Com

1201
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 2: studios here in Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio and in

1202
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: great anticipation, about nine hours and twenty six minutes away

1203
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: problem the resumption of NFL Week eighteen, which will, of course,

1204
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: can conclude Game two seventy two. You can't ask for

1205
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: a more highly contested contest, highly charged with storylines, emotion,

1206
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 2: you name it. It's just unreal when you consider that

1207
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: a team with fourteen wins we'll have to end up

1208
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: being a five seed and Detroit Lions, a team I

1209
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: know and love and have you know covered for many,

1210
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 2: many years. I can't look at this without you know,

1211
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 2: some affection and knowing what it will mean to the

1212
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: city of Detroit for the Lions to pull us off, meaning,

1213
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: you know, the opportunity to capture once and for all

1214
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: the number one seed, lift their wounds. Rest have to

1215
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: only win two games. I see that in air quotes,

1216
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: only to get to the Super Bowl. And then you're

1217
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: gonna have a tall task from there. This is a team,

1218
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: it's not one of championships since nineteen fifty seven. They're

1219
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: one of a couple of franchises along with Cleveland. And

1220
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, I think Jacksonville couple never been to a

1221
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. All Right, you get the picture. The historyonics

1222
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 2: hyperbole surrounding Sunday Night's game is legitimate. But it's not

1223
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: just the games on the field with respect to winner

1224
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: versus loser, who goes home, who gets ready for the playoffs,

1225
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 2: there are also individual records. Well, Jerry Rice, the legendary

1226
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 2: Jerry Rice, who once had eleven consecutive one thousand yard

1227
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: seasons which concluded in nineteen ninety six. Well, if you

1228
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 2: watch Mike Evans and his career has begun with ten

1229
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: straight one thousand yard seasons. Even Jerry Rice and accomplished that.

1230
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 2: It took him a couple years to get growing. He

1231
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: had like nine hundred as a rookie. And this season

1232
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: Mike Advams, despite missing three games with a hammy, only

1233
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 2: needs eighty five yards against the Saints to ty Jerry Rice.

1234
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: And yes he has the benefit of a seventeenth game,

1235
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:22,919
Speaker 2: but he missed three. Another prolific wide receiver, Tory Hole,

1236
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 2: had sixty seven hundred yards, six seven and eighty four

1237
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: yards through five seasons, which culminated in two thousand and three,

1238
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: and despite missing seven games this season, Justin Jefferson smashed

1239
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 2: this record by mid season. The NFL's all time leader

1240
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: in receiving yards per game had ninety seven to one

1241
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 2: per game and three hundred and seventy yards one game

1242
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: to play well to catch him, Jamar Chase, we need

1243
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: to set a single season receiving record yard next season.

1244
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 2: So just something to watch now. Before Aaron Rodgers started

1245
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: doing high in Alaska and going to Egypt and sitting

1246
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 2: in the dark rooms and talking incessantly when no one's

1247
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: asking him, he once had a Pariser rating of one

1248
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty two point five, the best of all time.

1249
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: I was back in twenty eleven. Well, Lamar Jackson's current

1250
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: won twenty one point six is the second best mark ever.

1251
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 2: He had a great day Saturday. I have to look

1252
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: up and see if cumulatively he broke that record. All right,

1253
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 2: but that's another record that's teetering. Drew Brees back in

1254
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 2: twenty eighteen for an entire season This is incredible, all right.

1255
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 2: For an entire season, Drew Brees completed seventy four point

1256
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 2: four percent of his passes. Now Tua has the third

1257
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: best of all time at seventy two point nine. He's

1258
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 2: not playing Sunday. Baker Mayfield seventy one point seven. It's

1259
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 2: fifth and he's got a layer game at home. We'll

1260
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: see what he does. And Jared Goff seventy one point four.

1261
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Speaker 2: And you expect to track meet Sena nat against Minnesota.

1262
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 2: But if they all finished with completion rates of seventy plus,

1263
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: looks like toolwell, because he's not gonna play, they become

1264
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 2: the first trio to do so in a single season. Now,

1265
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four quarterbacks cumulatively could also finish with the

1266
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: highest average completion percentage sixty five point three in NFL history. Know,

1267
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 2: by the way, as for beating Breeze record, Tua would

1268
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 2: have had to play Sunday against the Jets and go

1269
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 2: twenty five or twenty five. But he's not gonna do

1270
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: that because he's missing the game due to his injury.

1271
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty, Justin Herbert, who what's not to love

1272
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 2: about this guy? He checks every box and him and

1273
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 2: Harbaugh have been a marriage made in heaven. I told

1274
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: you last year at this time that Jim Harball had

1275
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 2: a man crush on Justin Herbert. I know people say, well,

1276
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: Harball was interested in the Raiders that I don't check

1277
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 2: your sources. I don't know how serious that really was.

1278
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 2: And even the Bears, and now that wasn't gonna happen

1279
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 2: for reasons people don't want to hear about. The Chargers.

1280
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 2: Was gonna happen as long as he got paid and

1281
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,560
Speaker 2: they got paid. And I'm glad Steve Hartman said that

1282
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: would happen. And let me tell you this is working out.

1283
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: But Justin Herbert four years ago, through thirty one touchdowns

1284
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 2: as a rookie touchdown passes, I don't think it's getting broken.

1285
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: But Jaden Daniels and bow Knicks are both at twenty five.

1286
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 2: And this makes it even more impressive because Jaden Daniels

1287
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: and bow Knicks going into their seventeenth game. Herbert set

1288
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 2: this record in fifteen games. Don't think that record is

1289
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: in any danger unless Jade Daniels throw seven touchdown passes

1290
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: and or bow Knicks does, which ain't gonna happen against

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01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. No, all right. You know you never really

1292
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 2: used to hear this. I don't remember it. But now

1293
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: among receivers there's this thing called the triple Crown. Race

1294
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 2: has to do with the number of receptions you have

1295
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 2: over the course of a season, the number of yards

1296
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 2: you accumulate, the number of touchdowns you score. All right,

1297
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: And since two thousand, only Cooper Cup and Steve Smith

1298
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: Senior have achieved the triple Crown, which means they led

1299
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: the league in receptions, yards, and touchdowns in the same season.

1300
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 2: It's a virtual lock, beyond a virtual lock, that Jamar

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01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 2: Chase will join that group. Even heading into Saturday's game

1302
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 2: against the Steelers, Jamar Chase had one hundred and seventeen receptions,

1303
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 2: which is nine ahead of brock Bowers, but they had

1304
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,799
Speaker 2: five hundred more yards. He had over sixteen hundred yards

1305
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: and sixteen touchdowns against brock Bowers four. But give it

1306
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: up to the rookie brock Bowers one hundred and eight

1307
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 2: receptions heading into Sunday eleven hundred and forty four yards,

1308
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 2: four touchdowns. Justin Jefferson, who certainly expects to add to

1309
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,440
Speaker 2: his gaudy total Sunday night. His accumulated one hundred receptions,

1310
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 2: fourteen and seventy nine yards. I mean, I guess if

1311
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: he did something stupid, I had a three hundred yard game,

1312
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 2: he could steal it from Jamar Chase. I don't expect

1313
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 2: that he's only got ten touchdowns. I don't think he's

1314
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: gonna score eight touchdowns. Miles Garrett had a chance. He

1315
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 2: had fourteen plus sacks and four consecutive seasons. You know,

1316
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 2: he didn't end great for him on for excuse me

1317
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 2: for for Miles Garrett on Saturday. So we're not just watching.

1318
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: We're not just watching, you know, games and outcomes and

1319
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 2: who wins and who doesn't win and who goes. We're

1320
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 2: gonna watch that next. I'm gonna give you the biggest,

1321
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: most comprehensive rundown. Right now. The NFL playoff field is

1322
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 2: nearly set, but let's look at the playoff scenarios for

1323
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 2: each team is still in the hunt and the teams

1324
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: that have clinched to what's going on. We're going to

1325
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: do that coming up next. No, Bernie Fraddle, We're coming

1326
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 2: your line from Las Figas, Fox Sports Radio, Tireck dot

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Speaker 2: Com Studios. Keep it locked and listening to the Bernie

1328
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 2: Fraddle show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, back in

1329
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Let's dive in

1330
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: to this whole NFL playoff field. So you know what's

1331
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: going on. You know, the chiefs of the number one seed,

1332
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 2: you'll have to wait for their opponent. They'll play the

1333
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 2: lowest seeded team a week following weekend, the week of

1334
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: the of the of the seventeenth. All right, Buffalo, they

1335
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: visit New England. Doesn't matter what happens. They've already secured

1336
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 2: the number two seed. So if Denver wins Sunday, they'll

1337
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 2: hold Stenver. If Denver loses in Miami wins, Miami will

1338
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 2: visit Buffalo. If both Denver and Miami lose, guess what,

1339
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,879
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals get their wish. They'll go to Buffalo,

1340
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: and we'll test that theory about no one wants to

1341
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: play the Bengals. Ravens, they clinched the AFC North title.

1342
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: They beat Cleveland. That means to the number three seed.

1343
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: They're going to host a wild card game against either

1344
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:12,799
Speaker 2: the Chargers or the Steelers, depending what happens Sunday. Houston,

1345
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: nothing is on the line here for Houston. Sunday looks

1346
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: like they'll host either the Steelers or the Chargers during

1347
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 2: Wildcard weekend, depending on what happens Sunday. The Steelers have

1348
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 2: already lost Chargers, they head into Las Vegas here Sunday.

1349
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,639
Speaker 2: They'll earn the number five seed. If they win, thanks

1350
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh's lost Saturday, that number five seed will earn

1351
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: them a trip to Houston to face the Texans. So

1352
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: they beat the Raiders, they go place the Texans. The

1353
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: Chargers will fall to the number six seed if they

1354
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 2: lose to the Raiders, that would earn them a trip

1355
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 2: to Baltimore. So, as you heard me and Peasig talking,

1356
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: the Chargers have been sent to win this game. I

1357
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 2: think they'd rather go to Houston, with all due respect

1358
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 2: than Baltimore Steelers. They've clinched the playoff berth, but they

1359
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: fail to clinch the five seed lost to the Bengals Saturday.

1360
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: Actually there be a five or six seed, which means

1361
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 2: they'll either visit Houston if the Chargers lose to the

1362
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:09,839
Speaker 2: Raiders or the Ravens if the Chargers beat the Raiders.

1363
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 2: I don't believe in this whole Bengal card nonsense, but

1364
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 2: if you have a bengo card, and by the way,

1365
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: I don't know where you even buy one or what

1366
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: they look like. You can probably put on your Bengo card.

1367
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 2: It feels like Pittsburgh will be heading to Baltimore Denver.

1368
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 2: You win against Kansas City, you're in. You're eliminated. If

1369
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,879
Speaker 2: you lose to the Chiefs. Don't think it can't happen. Miami,

1370
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: they also want that last wildcard spot. They face the

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01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 2: Jets on the road. They must win and get outside assistance.

1372
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 2: They'd face the Buffalo Bills if they get that final

1373
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 2: postseason bid. As I just said, they have to win

1374
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 2: and they have Denver to lose the Bengals. They've got

1375
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,640
Speaker 2: rope burns from the rosary already and we're just a

1376
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 2: few hours into this. They got the hardest chance of

1377
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: security in the playoff bed. They need both Miami and

1378
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 2: Denver to lose Sunday. If that happens, they'll head the Buffalo.

1379
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: They'll shuffle off of Buffalo in the wildcard round. Let's

1380
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: go to the NFC the Lions. They win the NFC North,

1381
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,080
Speaker 2: they beat Minnesota Sunday night. By the way, if they

1382
01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 2: tie Minnesota Sunday Night, they also get the number one seed.

1383
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 2: Thanks to beating the Niners the other night. A Week

1384
01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 2: eighteen loss that looms large. That would drop the Lions

1385
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 2: to the number five seed, where they would either have

1386
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 2: to face Tampa Bay or the Rams. The Falcons they

1387
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: could theory have in theory have to go to Atlanta,

1388
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 2: but Tampa Bay would have to lose as a fourteen

1389
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 2: point favorite. That ain't gonna happen. Okay, the Eagles, you know,

1390
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: they're locked into the number two seed. On the wild

1391
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 2: card weekend, they'll host the NFC's lowest wildcard team. It'd

1392
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,519
Speaker 2: probably be either Washington or Green Bay. Boy that Green Bay,

1393
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 2: philadelph That would be a tough first round matchup. Wow.

1394
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 2: The Rams enter Sunday, they play the Seahawks. They have

1395
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 2: a chance to clinch the number three seed, and that

1396
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 2: would they can achieve that if they win in the

1397
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Bucks lose against New Orleans. I think Sean

1398
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 2: McVay is making a calculated risk that they won't lose,

1399
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 2: that the Bucks won't lose to the Saints, So it

1400
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 2: looks like he'll settle for the you know, the four seed.

1401
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 2: That's if they lose to the Seahawks and the Bucks

1402
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 2: defeat the Saints. Look, the bottom line is a number

1403
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 2: four seed would put the Rams against the Vikings or

1404
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: the Lions in the first round of the playoffs. The

1405
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 2: number three seed would meet the Rams would either host

1406
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: the Greenba Packers or the Washington Commanders. But this all

1407
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 2: happ only happens if Tampa Bay loses. Tampa Bay they

1408
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 2: can make the playoffs only as the NFC South champion,

1409
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: So New Orleans comes in as a fourteen point underdog

1410
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 2: and Tapa Bay just has to win that would make

1411
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 2: them the NFC South champion. In Atlanta Falcons defeat to

1412
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 2: the visiting the Carolina Panthers would also get the Tampa

1413
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 2: Bay Bucks in. That could happen. I don't expect it

1414
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 2: to happen. I expect probably most likely Tampa Bay to

1415
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 2: win and Atlanta to win, which means the Bucks are in.

1416
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,679
Speaker 2: They could push their way into the number three seed

1417
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: with a victory on Sunday, and if the Rams lose

1418
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: to the Seahawks as then Tampa Bay would be the

1419
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: number three seed, and as the number three seed, the

1420
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 2: Bucks would likely face either Green Bay or Washington in

1421
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 2: the opening round of the playoffs. But if the Bucks

1422
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 2: remain the number four seed. They'll host either the Vikings

1423
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,599
Speaker 2: or Lions over the wildcard weekend, a fourteen win team.

1424
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 2: But also you gotta clude this, the Bucks could in

1425
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: theory be eliminated from the postseason if they fall to

1426
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:40,680
Speaker 2: the Saints and the Falcons beat the Packers. There is

1427
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 2: your premer. All right, hopefully it took notes. It's going

1428
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: to be a fun Sunday. It's going to be a

1429
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: damn fun Sunday. You know it's not fun. It's crazy

1430
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: transfer portal. It is often running after the first month.

1431
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 2: You won't believe the numbers and how crazy it is.

1432
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it to you. Keep it locked.

1433
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Fradlers Show on Fox Sports Radio. Well,

1434
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 2: that's right. You heard the man that Bernie Fraddle showed you.

1435
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Speaker 2: It's keeps rolling right along. My name is Bernie Fraddle.

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1441
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Speaker 2: should be looking ahead to next week it all starts Thursday.

1442
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: We have a five day extravaganza. We'll have obviously a

1443
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:45,320
Speaker 2: great college football semifinal game and on Thursday, and then

1444
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 2: one on Friday. The two matchups are Texas, Ohio State

1445
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 2: of course, Penn State and Notre Dame. Then we'll have

1446
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 2: the magnificent wild Card weekend. I believe we have three

1447
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,520
Speaker 2: games on Saturday, two on Sunday, and one on Monday, regardless,

1448
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: five straight days. But it all starts off again with

1449
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: the resumption of the college football Playoff. And give it

1450
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:14,880
Speaker 2: up huge to the Arizona State Sun Devils. Shay, I

1451
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 2: can't not do this, buddy, you there, are you there?

1452
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 4: Shay?

1453
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, brainon, Okay, huge props to your Arizona State Sun

1454
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: Devils who should have won that game. And I'll tell

1455
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 2: you why. You tell me that was not targeting.

1456
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 6: No, I completely agree. It's targeting. And that's something that

1457
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 6: when it first happened, I was like, oh, no way,

1458
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 6: they don't. They don't call this. It's this is an

1459
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 6: easy call. And then when it didn't happen, I was like,

1460
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 6: all right, whatever, like let's move on from this. And

1461
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 6: then obviously, like throughout the game, well after that we

1462
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 6: didn't win and all that, and I got way more

1463
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:57,439
Speaker 6: upset about that call after the fact. But that wasn't

1464
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:59,719
Speaker 6: even the thing that got me the most upset that game.

1465
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 6: We could have won the game in the in the

1466
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 6: in the first overtime, in that fourth down when with

1467
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 6: the broken coverage, they got the score.

1468
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: Got the guy behind you.

1469
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like there was a lot of missed

1470
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 6: opportunities on our end. We had the better team, even

1471
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,840
Speaker 6: though Texas had the more five stars, probably the more

1472
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,639
Speaker 6: NFL ready players. When it came to just looking at

1473
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 6: the who had the better team just from that one game,

1474
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 6: it was us, And it was just really it was

1475
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 6: a frustrating game from my end.

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01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:37,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something that some people might find out rageous.

1477
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: You might have the better coach too.

1478
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 6: I don't think that's not out of ageous at all.

1479
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: Ills been around for so long, and he's you know,

1480
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: and he worked with Saban, and he's got a long resume,

1481
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 2: et cetera. This kid can coach man. He's phenomenal in

1482
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: terms of his demeanor. Uh, but I'm very bothered by

1483
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: what I said, saw shape very and I'll tell you why,

1484
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:10,919
Speaker 2: because by the well by the pure definition of targeting.

1485
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: He led with a crown of his helmet. It was

1486
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: helmet to helmet, that's without question. But they went and

1487
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: reviewed it. So what the hell were the three stooges

1488
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 2: looking at when these guys put their heads together made

1489
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: a rock pile? What is it? What is it that

1490
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 2: they failed to see? And that replay video that led

1491
01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: to the decision that this in fact was not targeting?

1492
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: Is anybody explained that?

1493
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1494
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 6: No, I even Kenny said, he was like, I don't

1495
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 6: even know what targeting is after that happened, and like

1496
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 6: when you when I was watching it too, there's no like,

1497
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 6: I've never seen a more targeting tackle, like a play

1498
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 6: that should have been called targeting that wasn't called targeting.

1499
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 6: Like I don't think there's been a tackle that easily

1500
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 6: like oh that's targeting that hasn't been called like that,

1501
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 6: like in any other game that's targeted. It just doesn't

1502
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 6: make sense to me, Bernie, It didn't make sense to me,

1503
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 6: and it still doesn't make sense to me now. But

1504
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna be the guy that's sitting here and

1505
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 6: saying that's the reason we lost. Because there were a

1506
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 6: lot of different there were a lot of other reasons

1507
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 6: and a lot of other situations that happened during that

1508
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 6: game right that we could have won the game. But

1509
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 6: that's just one of them. That just adds to the

1510
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 6: big list of things that made me cuss under my

1511
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 6: breath that day.

1512
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: They were down twenty forty eight, they never gave up.

1513
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 2: You gotta love Cam Scattable. He will be on an

1514
01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: NFL roster. He probably still ruins a special teams guy.

1515
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,799
Speaker 2: But you got to put this kid on the field. Okay,

1516
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 2: at the end of the day. You can take all

1517
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:48,120
Speaker 2: your forty times and shuttle drills and bench press metrics.

1518
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 2: You gotta be able to play football. And if you

1519
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 2: want to find out if a guy can play football,

1520
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: turn on the tape. This dude was born to play football.

1521
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you throw threw a touchdown pass for crying

1522
01:23:59,240 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 2: out loud.

1523
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 6: So anyway, he was like, ces, great, did you see

1524
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 6: him talking about that play? He saw? He said the

1525
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 6: safety was dropping in the entire time. The way he

1526
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,479
Speaker 6: was talking about is he just doesn't everyone's talking about

1527
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 6: him like he's some just running back that puts his

1528
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 6: head down. Gets lucky. He doesn't have to find a hole.

1529
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 6: There's a problem that's going around from the Jason Smith Show.

1530
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 6: As much as I love Jason Smith and Mike Harmon,

1531
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 6: they're saying how he isn't going to do amazing in

1532
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 6: the NFL just because people make tackles in the NFL.

1533
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 6: But then again, it's like you're taking away from all

1534
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:32,839
Speaker 6: these college players or players were five stars.

1535
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: Let me tell you I didn't mean to cut you off,

1536
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 2: which I just did. I covered the NFL for ten

1537
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 2: years up close and personal. He might be a Steve

1538
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: Tasker type who says he has to be a running

1539
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 2: back that carries the ball twenty times exactly. This kid

1540
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: is a freaking football player. You find a way to

1541
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: put him on the field. You put him on the field,

1542
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 2: and you turn on the film and he's going to

1543
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,719
Speaker 2: do something. I think you'll start out on special teams.

1544
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 2: Remember what Steve Taskers a Hall of Fame special teams

1545
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: player for the Buffalo Bills. Do you remember that name?

1546
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 6: I do.

1547
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, let's start there and he'll get

1548
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: his carries and you know what, I didn't know, they

1549
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 2: made tackles in the NFL. I love Jason Smith too, man.

1550
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: I see a lot of teams who can't tackle in

1551
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 2: space for crap.

1552
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 6: I agree. I mean, you see the Giants. There's a

1553
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 6: lot of teams out there there right now that are

1554
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 6: lacking and tackling.

1555
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 2: And plus he can block, he can ship lock, he

1556
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,480
Speaker 2: can catch the ball out of the backfield. He's a weapon.

1557
01:25:30,720 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 6: Touchdowns the guys over there.

1558
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 2: He's a rolling ball of butcher knives. He is are

1559
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: There are some guys that are athletes. And look about

1560
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 2: fifty percent of the guys in the NFL are there

1561
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: because they love football. The other fifty percent they're there

1562
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 2: because they love the paycheck, no doubt about it. And

1563
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 2: that's okay. This dude was born to play football. He's

1564
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 2: got a football face. I mean, he's got Forget it, man,

1565
01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 2: they missed on this guy, and he won't be a

1566
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 2: high draft choice. He's gonna get on somebody's roster. Watch

1567
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 2: him in up with like some of like Kansas City,

1568
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 2: and they'll find a way to put him on the

1569
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 2: field to make a play. Somehow, some way. He'll make place. Anyway, enough,

1570
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:16,040
Speaker 2: said Arizona State. I thought I quitted themselves very very well.

1571
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 2: I loved watching Jake the Snake plumber on the sidelines

1572
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 2: going nuts, so you know, I remember when n Juan

1573
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: Roquat was at Arizona State. I remember back in eighty

1574
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 2: seven when Arizona State beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl.

1575
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: I remember the Frank Kush days at Arizona State. They're

1576
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: good and I always wondered, why you've got this powder

1577
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 2: keg there in Tempe. Great place to go to school,

1578
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 2: great place to live, and now they're in a big

1579
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: time you know, well they are always at a big

1580
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 2: time conference with the Pac twelve. Hell, I remember back

1581
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 2: when they were in the whack with BYU and Utah

1582
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 2: on those schools. Arizona State's a stud school. We played

1583
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 2: them in baseball. I have played at that field. So

1584
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 2: I always wondered, what is it going to take for

1585
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: this school to emerge and be one of the you know,

1586
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 2: elite top football programs. Do you know much about their collective?

1587
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: There is what they got.

1588
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 6: Going, Yeah, the Sun Devil collective. Yeah, it's uh, it's

1589
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 6: they've really in the last two years have really picked

1590
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 6: it up in terms of just alumni because well, we

1591
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 6: aren't a private school, but we are one of the

1592
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 6: schools that you get They have a ton of money

1593
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 6: and I know that the president, Michael Crowe. I've done

1594
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 6: a couple of interviews with him myself where he wants

1595
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 6: to put as much money as possible into the program,

1596
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 6: and he has a lot of alumni come in meetings,

1597
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 6: and I know that he's putting his own money into

1598
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 6: into the collective. But I get emails all the time now,

1599
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,680
Speaker 6: just like one once a week now, I was saying, oh,

1600
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 6: donate to keep it going, like blah blah blah blah blah,

1601
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,280
Speaker 6: and like, don't get me wrong, like I don't see

1602
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:53,639
Speaker 6: an issue with it, and I just think it's funny

1603
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 6: that it's like right right now is when they started

1604
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 6: pushing it out, and it wasn't in the beginning of

1605
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 6: the season that I was getting thesey mouns.

1606
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 2: All right. Well that kind of segues into what I

1607
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 2: talk next, because I'll talk about next because they are

1608
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 2: we are now in a day and age where not

1609
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: only does Arizona State have a path to a national championship,

1610
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: they's proved it right between the transfer portal and the NIL,

1611
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 2: your fortunes can change overnight. And if you don't believe me,

1612
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 2: the first fifteen days of the transfer portal this year,

1613
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: there were twenty six hundred and fourteen players that entered it.

1614
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 2: It only took fifteen days to break last year's record

1615
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: of twenty six to eleven. And I don't know what

1616
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 2: the final number is now we can probably look it

1617
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:46,880
Speaker 2: up now. The Winner Transfer Portal technically for underclassmen closed

1618
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 2: December twenty eighth, and so that means that the transfer

1619
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 2: portal is winding down, right, No, no, And this is

1620
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: why I wanted to make this presentation tonight, because I

1621
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: don't think people truly understand the vastness of the transfer portal. Okay,

1622
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 2: so the Winner Transfer Portal closing was December twenty eighth.

1623
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 2: But here's everything you need to know about who can

1624
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 2: still enter and what's possible and what's ahead for transfers,

1625
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 2: not just not but over the next month and over

1626
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 2: the next several months. So here's the reality. December twenty

1627
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:24,480
Speaker 2: eighth was not a firm deadline. Transfer portal windows indicate

1628
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: when players must submit their paperwork to end of the portal.

1629
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Buy They do, not, however, indicate when a player can

1630
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 2: be entered into the portal. See Once the school receives

1631
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:37,000
Speaker 2: a player's paperwork to enter the portal, the compliance department

1632
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 2: has forty eight hours to submit the player's name into

1633
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: the NCAA's Transfer portal database. And given the fact that

1634
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: the last day of the transfer portal window was a

1635
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 2: week ago Saturday, players basically up till midnight local time

1636
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,520
Speaker 2: to submit their names. Now, given the fact that compliance

1637
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 2: departments have forty eight hours to process the paperwork, you

1638
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 2: were hearing players enter the portal well beyond Monday and

1639
01:29:59,320 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 2: even into Tuesday beyond. But we're not done. There are

1640
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:07,800
Speaker 2: exceptions to deadlines. The most notable has to do with

1641
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 2: postseason play. This is not being reported anywhere that I

1642
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 2: can see. I'm reporting it tonight. Any player who participates

1643
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 2: in the postseason, whether it's just a regular old Bull game,

1644
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 2: I don't give danvers the Pop Tarts Bowl or a

1645
01:30:22,439 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: playoff game, they have an additional five day window to

1646
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,880
Speaker 2: enter the portal once the season comes to an end.

1647
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 2: So if a player's bowl game, say was January first,

1648
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 2: you've got till January sixth, which is tomorrow to end

1649
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 2: of the portal. So if a player plays in the

1650
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,799
Speaker 2: National Title Game, which will be coming up on January twentieth,

1651
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: half through January twenty fifth to enter the portal, that

1652
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: means there's going to continue to be a small but

1653
01:30:54,960 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 2: steady stream a portal entrance all the way through the

1654
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 2: end of the month. Now, there's also an exception made

1655
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 2: for players who go through a coaching change. Let's say

1656
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 2: they're out of school and your coach leaves for another job. Well,

1657
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 2: any player in that situation is allowed an immediate thirty

1658
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:18,400
Speaker 2: day window to enter the transfer portal. Now, although most

1659
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: coaching changes have already occurred this offseason, there's still another

1660
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: thirty day window when about grad transfers, which has become

1661
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:32,360
Speaker 2: a huge part of the transfer portal. Well, grad transfers

1662
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 2: operate under a different set of criteria than everybody else

1663
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 2: in transfer portal. They're allowed to enter the portal at

1664
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:43,679
Speaker 2: any time, even though even if that time is outside

1665
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 2: of the FBS Winter Transfer portal window, which I just

1666
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 2: said was December ninth through twenty eighth. Any grad transfer

1667
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:54,200
Speaker 2: has until the end of the spring the Spring portal window,

1668
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,680
Speaker 2: to submit their names into the portal. Oh spring portal window,

1669
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,599
Speaker 2: what's that? Okay, We're still not done. There are two

1670
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: transfer portal windows for FBS football. The first one opened

1671
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: December ninth, and in in December twenty eighth. Even though

1672
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 2: I just shared with you why that is not a

1673
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 2: hard deadline based on multiple factors. The second transfer portal

1674
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: window is going to open up April sixteenth, in the

1675
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 2: last ten days now last year. In addition to the

1676
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 2: twenty six hundred players that entered in the winter transfer portal,

1677
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 2: you're not going to have their excuse me, there were

1678
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: more than twelve hundred FBS players that entered the portal

1679
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 2: during the spring cycle window last spring and right on

1680
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Q twenty seven Sports. Twenty four to seven Sports has

1681
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 2: already ranked the top three schools so far as to

1682
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 2: how they fare in the current class of transfer portals

1683
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,839
Speaker 2: for the twenty to twenty five season. This is big

1684
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:02,479
Speaker 2: coming in at number three, the Old Miss Rebels and

1685
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:08,439
Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin. He's already nabbed three former Arkansas starters and

1686
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,759
Speaker 2: they're following the same recruiting acumen to the last several

1687
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 2: cycles and they've got them. They've got designs on getting

1688
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 2: another top five class between now and the spring. Old

1689
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 2: Miss got the nod from a former Nebraska pass rusher

1690
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:26,720
Speaker 2: by the name of Princeville Uman Lemlin and if I

1691
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 2: pronounced that right, whose brother played at Oxford this last

1692
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: season at Mississippi after transferring from Florida. He'll join another

1693
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 2: guy that Sean Olmack, who's coming in from LSU, And

1694
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, now Old miss has already basically

1695
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,800
Speaker 2: rebuilt their defensive front just like that in the transfer portal.

1696
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:49,679
Speaker 2: That's why I said what I said about Arizona State

1697
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 2: checking in and number two. By the way, Ole miss

1698
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 2: they've already got fifteen transfer portal commits. Fifteen LSU, they've

1699
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 2: already got thirty teen transfer portal commits. Brian Kelly made

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01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 2: it very clear before the portal opened that he said

1701
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 2: this year LSU, we're going to be buyers, and he

1702
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 2: was right. They needed to revamp their secondary. They brought

1703
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 2: in two potential starting cornerbacks. They got a kid from

1704
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 2: Florida State named Patrick Payton and a couple of other

1705
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 2: playmaking weapons. They got a stud wide receiver from Kentucky

1706
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 2: named Barrian Brown and Nick Anderson from Oklahoma. So they

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01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 2: are returning their quarterback, Garrett Nusmayer, and they have a

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01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 2: freshman who transferred from Mississippi State behind him. LSU decided

1709
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 2: they're going to revamp their offense, but ranking number one,

1710
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 2: interestingly enough, go figure this one. Maybe they want to

1711
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 2: be in Lubbock, and nothing wrong with that. The Tech

1712
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Tech rederaidors have already nabbed seventeen transfer portal commits. They

1713
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 2: were making big waves. This is now essentially, let's face it,

1714
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 2: call it the portal. It's free agency, it's football, college

1715
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 2: football free agency. They got a stud lineman from Illinois

1716
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 2: State name hunters Zenmbrono. He announced for Texas Tech right

1717
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,719
Speaker 2: after the winner went to open. He's considered the number

1718
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 2: one overall interior offensive lineman available. He's a big boost

1719
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 2: the Texas Tech offensive line needed to fill that gap.

1720
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 2: They're the only Big twelve team currently ranked inside of

1721
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 2: the twenty four to seven Sports Top ten Portal haul

1722
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:48,280
Speaker 2: and the Raiders, well, they have a coach named Joey

1723
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 2: McGuire and they have designs very much on competing for

1724
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 2: a title next year. So there you have it, the

1725
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 2: transfer portal. You thought you knew it, there's more layers

1726
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 2: to then you realize you knew. And that's why we

1727
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 2: like to have fun with this kind of stuff. I

1728
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: want to switch gears ever so quickly. It won't be long.

1729
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,639
Speaker 2: You're going to be hearing about pitchers and catchers reporting

1730
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 2: and players that you know they have their own transfer

1731
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: portal in the in Major League Baseball club free agency,

1732
01:36:19,520 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 2: and a guy by the name of Juan Soto cashed

1733
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:27,799
Speaker 2: in big for seven hundred and sixty five million dollars recently.

1734
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 2: But there are some contract details you might have missed,

1735
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: and some of these contact details are going to cause

1736
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: you to raise an eyebrow, might even piss you off

1737
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 2: a little bit. You'll see where I'm going with this

1738
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 2: when they start to share with you some of these

1739
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:52,000
Speaker 2: under the radar contract details for Juan Soto. By the way,

1740
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 2: shortly after the show tonight, our podcast will be going up.

1741
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 2: If you missed any of tonight's show, be sure to

1742
01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

1743
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1744
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Speaker 2: and review the podcast. Again. Just search Fox Sports Radio

1745
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: The Bernie Frattle Show wherever you get your podcast. You

1746
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 2: see the show posted right after we get off the air.

1747
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 2: Whether we are forty one minutes away from the dance

1748
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 2: Sensation sweep in the Nation. What kind of brand new

1749
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:26,759
Speaker 2: fool you followed by? What my name? I'm Bernie Frattle.

1750
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 2: We are coming to you live the Fox Sports Radio

1751
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: studios here tire Rax studios here in Las Vegas. Don't

1752
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 2: go away. You're listening to the Bernie Fradle Show on

1753
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back at the Bernie Frattle Show,

1754
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, come to live from the tirac dot

1755
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 2: Com studios here in Las Vegas, just thirty three minutes

1756
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:51,280
Speaker 2: away from the dance Sensation sweep in the nation. What

1757
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool you? Followed by what my name?

1758
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 2: And I want to take this time to remind you

1759
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:00,559
Speaker 2: football fans, be sure to tune into Fox Sports Radio

1760
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 2: every Sunday morning, beginning at ten am Eastern seven am

1761
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 2: Pacific for Contown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM, Brian No,

1762
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,640
Speaker 2: Jeff Schwartz, and my good buddy professional better Bill Krackenberger.

1763
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 2: Will We'll have you covered three hours before kickoff every

1764
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,759
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1765
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Speaker 2: GM right here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart

1766
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 2: Radio app. All right. One Soto entered the transfer portal

1767
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 2: recently and he got the bag. The Yankees offered him

1768
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty million. He said, not up in here,

1769
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:42,639
Speaker 2: but I will take the seven hundred and sixty five

1770
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:45,000
Speaker 2: that the Mets offer, and when I share with you

1771
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: a little tidbit here in a minute, it may give

1772
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 2: some insight as to why he chose the Mets over

1773
01:38:53,720 --> 01:39:00,479
Speaker 2: the Yankees. So speculative, of course, but let's start with

1774
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 2: the basics. Okay, he gets a seventy five million dollar

1775
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 2: one soda, gets a seventy five million dollar signing bonus,

1776
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:11,439
Speaker 2: and he'll get salaries of just under forty seven million

1777
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:15,799
Speaker 2: in twenty five and twenty six, about forty three million

1778
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 2: and twenty seven, about forty seven million again in twenty

1779
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 2: eight and twenty nine, and then forty six million in

1780
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: each of the final ten seasons. That was your day.

1781
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:29,599
Speaker 2: Just for a little context, let's sort this out. Averages

1782
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 2: out to fifty one million a year, nine hundred and

1783
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars a week, one hundred and forty thousand

1784
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 2: dollars a day, six thousand dollars an hour, one hundred

1785
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 2: dollars a minute. So he goes to heat up his

1786
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 2: coffee and the microwave and it takes a minute. He

1787
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,799
Speaker 2: just got paid one hundred bucks to heat up his coffee.

1788
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 2: But here's where the plot sickens, and this is where

1789
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:58,759
Speaker 2: it kind of got me a little bit in terms

1790
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 2: of all right, man, are you? Are you serious? In

1791
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: addition to all that one, Sodo gets free use of

1792
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:13,320
Speaker 2: a luxury suite. These things aren't cheap, by the way.

1793
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: You need free use of a luxury suite and up

1794
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 2: to four premium tickets behind home play for regular season

1795
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 2: in postseason games the New York Mets. I guess if

1796
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:28,920
Speaker 2: you're getting seven hundred and sixty five million, hell, I

1797
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 2: mean you can't afford to spring for a suite and

1798
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: some tickets, or you don't want to. Regardless, he got it,

1799
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 2: So let me run that by again. In addition to

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01:40:43,720 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty five million dollars, SODA's gonna get

1801
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 2: a free luxury suite and up to four premium tickets

1802
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 2: behind home played for all the regular season, season and

1803
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: postseason New York Mets home games. But that's not all.

1804
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 2: It's sweet. You think, well, maybe that'd be good enough,

1805
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 2: but he gets for the highest priced tickets in the house.

1806
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,320
Speaker 2: Now back to the Yankees thing I just mentioned. See

1807
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:18,280
Speaker 2: the Yankees' final offer to Juan Sota was seven hundred

1808
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:21,080
Speaker 2: and sixty million over sixteen years. Not a bad piece

1809
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 2: of change. That good work. If you can get it.

1810
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 2: But here's the kicker. The Yankees quote wouldn't budge on

1811
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 2: giving Wan Soto a free suite because their premise was

1812
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 2: that would set a historical precedent since Aaron Judge and

1813
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 2: Derek Jeter, well they both had to pay for their

1814
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 2: sweet in the Yankee stadium. Aha, that little devil Juan Soto,

1815
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 2: all right, but we're not done. Also, in Juan Soto's

1816
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:02,479
Speaker 2: deal with something called a number twenty two class, you see,

1817
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 2: the Mets have a third basement by the name of

1818
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:09,720
Speaker 2: Brett Batty and he's I believe he's been on the

1819
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 2: roster for the last three seasons, and Brett Batty wears

1820
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 2: number twenty two. Well, apparently Juan Soda wants to wear

1821
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 2: twenty two, kind of like Caitlin Clark, whose jersey's about

1822
01:42:22,160 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 2: to be retired on February. Second to the tune of

1823
01:42:26,120 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: about tickets are seven hundred and eleven dollars a piece.

1824
01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:31,320
Speaker 2: But I digress. Maybe they should have gained one so

1825
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 2: a free suite for that game too. But apparently Juan

1826
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:43,200
Speaker 2: Soto wants that jersey just because and he doesn't want to.

1827
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 2: To the best of my knowledge from the research I've

1828
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 2: done being cumbered with any compensation to the aforementioned mister

1829
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 2: Brett Batty. Now let me tell how these things work.

1830
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 2: Players change teams all the time, and players typically have

1831
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 2: a preference for a number, which that's understandable. You get

1832
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 2: used to a certain number. And this has been going

1833
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 2: on forever. My good buddy Tim Flannery, he was a

1834
01:43:13,160 --> 01:43:14,960
Speaker 2: five and ten man with the Podres, one of the

1835
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 2: most popular players of all time. Well, in the fall

1836
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: of nineteen eighty three, Steve Garvey entered free agency with

1837
01:43:21,560 --> 01:43:25,639
Speaker 2: the Dodgers and ended up a Podre. Garvy wore number

1838
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 2: six with the Dodgers. Tim Flannery at the time war

1839
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,680
Speaker 2: number six with the Padres. Flannery agreed to go to

1840
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 2: you know where uniform number eleven when Garvey arrived. But

1841
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,439
Speaker 2: Garv sat down in Flann and says, you can I

1842
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 2: have number six if I you know, I'll take carre

1843
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,880
Speaker 2: of you. And Flann says that we'll work this out.

1844
01:43:44,920 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 2: And so apparently on a road trip up to San Francisco,

1845
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:53,440
Speaker 2: Garvey took Flannery to a very high falute and haberdashery

1846
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 2: and bought Flann a like a two thousand dollars Italian

1847
01:43:57,240 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 2: suit and that was like forty years ago. Okay, that's

1848
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 2: how you do it. It was a gesture, its respect,

1849
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 2: its protocol, not for Juan Soto. Oh, by the way,

1850
01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 2: let's fast forward to now. When Shoho Tani, the class

1851
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 2: act that he is, joined the Dodgers, he wanted to

1852
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:22,719
Speaker 2: wear number seventeen, but of course number seventeen was already

1853
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:26,799
Speaker 2: spoken for. One of the Dodgers relief pitchers, Joe Kelly,

1854
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 2: wore number seventeen, but he did agree to give up

1855
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: the number and in return, the compensation that mister Kelly

1856
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 2: received was wait for it, a Porsche wha show Yotani

1857
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:47,680
Speaker 2: bought Joe Kelly a new Porsche. See, that's how you

1858
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 2: do these things. That's how you do these things. But

1859
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 2: all Juan Soto wanted in his contract, along with the

1860
01:44:54,400 --> 01:44:56,680
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty five million and for use of

1861
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:01,479
Speaker 2: a luxury suite and for premium tickets, was number twenty two.

1862
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: He just put it in the contract that he would

1863
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: get Juan Sota would get to wear number twenty two

1864
01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,559
Speaker 2: without having to ask mister Batty for it. But but

1865
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 2: there is a little known clause in the Major League

1866
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:22,400
Speaker 2: Baseball Collective bargaining agreement that states that if Juan Soto

1867
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 2: inherits that jersey from mister Brett Bady number twenty two,

1868
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,200
Speaker 2: he has to buy the remaining allotment of all of

1869
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: the mister Baty number twenty two merchandise. Not because he

1870
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 2: agreed to it, not because it's part of the contract,

1871
01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 2: but it's a rule in the Major League Baseball Collective

1872
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: Bargaining Agreement. I told you this stuff happens all the time.

1873
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,679
Speaker 2: Once again, we're not done. What else does Wan Soda

1874
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 2: get in addition to seven hundred and sixty million, a

1875
01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,840
Speaker 2: free luxury suite for premium tickets to every game in

1876
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 2: the jersey Number twenty two he gets for full security

1877
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,479
Speaker 2: detail for him and his family for all road and

1878
01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 2: home game games that can't be cheap. I had no

1879
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:08,200
Speaker 2: idea that the Soda family. I couldn't recognize the Sodo

1880
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 2: family if I saw him, But what do I know?

1881
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,000
Speaker 2: By the way, Juan Soda will also get a nice

1882
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 2: tidy five hundred thousand dollars bonus for winning his first MVP.

1883
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,639
Speaker 2: If he wins an MVP award after that, or more

1884
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 2: than one award after that, he'll get an additional one

1885
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:31,800
Speaker 2: million dollars with every MVP after the first one. If

1886
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 2: he just finishes in the top three in MVP voting

1887
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:40,639
Speaker 2: any of these seasons, Juan Soto will cash a check

1888
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 2: for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It feels like

1889
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:48,559
Speaker 2: chump change now. And if Jan Soto just finishes in

1890
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: the top five of MVP voting in any season, he'll

1891
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 2: cash a check for one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

1892
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:03,599
Speaker 2: So there you have it. It's the entire one Soto

1893
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty million contract, seven hundred and sixty

1894
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 2: million dollars contract from soup to nuts to move across town,

1895
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 2: to move from the from Manhattan in the Bronx out

1896
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:20,640
Speaker 2: to Long Island and play for the Mets. It'll be

1897
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 2: interesting to see if they actually win, because that's kind

1898
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 2: of what they got out for, isn't it. They're sure

1899
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:31,880
Speaker 2: as they'll pay a lot. But look, you know, if

1900
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm on the line here tweet apt be at Bernie Frattle,

1901
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:39,200
Speaker 2: I just feel like, I just feel like there's something

1902
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 2: about the excess here. I never count anybody else's money,

1903
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 2: and I don't give a damn he's earned it. But

1904
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, the free suites and the Jersey deal and

1905
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 2: tickets and this and that.

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Speaker 5: This.

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Speaker 2: Okay, man, really, really what are we doing here? But again,

1908
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Speaker 2: what do I know? By the way, shortly after the

1909
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Speaker 2: The Bernie Frattle Show. You'll see this show posted right

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. If you've been following

1916
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Speaker 2: the NFL season and even last season, you've heard the

1917
01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 2: name Ben Johnson many many times. But there's a twist

1918
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Speaker 2: to this story, and if you're a Bears fan, you

1919
01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:38,360
Speaker 2: might not like what you're about to hear, because all

1920
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, there are rumors floating out there in

1921
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Speaker 2: the ether that Ben Johnson, the highly coveted, highly successful,

1922
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 2: incredibly creative offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions, is linked

1923
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Speaker 2: to a different team now and these rumors continue to resurface.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the latest coming up. I'm Bernie Fraddle,

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Speaker 2: We're keviny lyon from Las Vegas. Fox Orts Radio Tiret

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we

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Speaker 2: are back on the Bernie Fraddle Show. Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Company live from the tirect dot Com studios here in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas, will take you at the three m Pacific

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01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 2: six am Eastern great anticipation for what should be a

1932
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Speaker 2: very entertaining and a very attention grabbing week eighteen in

1933
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Speaker 2: the National Football League, culminating by Game two seventy two,

1934
01:49:35,840 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 2: approximately five to twenty pm Pacific time, eight twenty Detroit, Minnesota.

1935
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:46,840
Speaker 2: And Detroit's offensive coordinator is Ben Johnson, and he probably

1936
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: could have got himself a nice gig last year, but

1937
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 2: he wanted to come back. He had unfinished business. And

1938
01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:58,000
Speaker 2: you know what's the rumor, rumor, rumor rumor as far

1939
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: as where Ben Johnson they saved my end up. We

1940
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 2: already know that there's gonna at least seven openings. So

1941
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 2: there already are a couple, all right, one being in

1942
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, which appears to be that, you know, the

1943
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,640
Speaker 2: the rumor where Ben Johnson would go. I have no

1944
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 2: idea that every materializes, but it's hell, it's been out

1945
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:26,640
Speaker 2: there and Ryan Poles is. You know, it's my understanding

1946
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 2: he charged with the head coaching search in Chicago. But

1947
01:50:32,439 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 2: here's where the story takes a twist, because there's speculation

1948
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 2: and I never call for a man's job, and I'm

1949
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 2: not going to now, but there's speculation that it's possible

1950
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,639
Speaker 2: that the Bears could move on from Ryan Poles as

1951
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,680
Speaker 2: their general manager after the regular season concludes. According to

1952
01:50:51,720 --> 01:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Albert Breer, Poles will remain in his role in the

1953
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 2: Bears front office this off season because going to be

1954
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 2: the point man for the team's head coach search. But

1955
01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: here's where the story gets even a little trickier. Poles

1956
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 2: only has one year left under his contract, and the

1957
01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: idea of Polls being in the final year of his

1958
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 2: contract has been a point of contention when you start

1959
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:25,360
Speaker 2: to juxtapose that scenario when you consider the bearest chances

1960
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 2: of recruiting Ben Johnson to be their next coach. Right,

1961
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 2: Johnson wants to be aligned with perhaps a general manager

1962
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: of his liking, and that's something that wouldn't be the

1963
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:42,719
Speaker 2: case for the Bears unless Poles is extended. Now remains

1964
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 2: to be determined if the Bears will hand out an

1965
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 2: extension to Ryan Poles. Only Chicago fans can't can honestly

1966
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 2: tell me if they believe Ryan Poles deserves an extension.

1967
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 2: But again, here's where it gets slippy slippery. According to

1968
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 2: the telephone game, this guy tells that guy. There's another

1969
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 2: reason rumor that suggests that Ryan Poles may actually have

1970
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 2: reservations about hiring Ben Johnson in the first place. There's

1971
01:52:19,640 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 2: a lot of belief, or at least opinion, that Ben

1972
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Johnson could in theory, be the impetus behind pushing bulls

1973
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,439
Speaker 2: out if he's hired. So can you imagine hiring the

1974
01:52:31,520 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 2: guy who pushes you out? And again, this is all rumor,

1975
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:44,280
Speaker 2: speculation in nuendo. But when this world we're in, things fly.

1976
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson apparently it's been allegedly bannied about that he

1977
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 2: would actually be interested in the commander's assistant, GM, Lance

1978
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 2: Newmark as the GM And why well Newmark was with

1979
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson in Detroit. And actually Ryan Poles has a

1980
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 2: good history with Viking's defensive coordinator Brian Flores. Flores could

1981
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 2: be a top candidate if Ryan Poles is there. So

1982
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 2: is it fair to speculate and asserteam that Ryan Poles

1983
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:29,440
Speaker 2: might be steering clear of Ben Johnson and Ben Johnson's

1984
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 2: potential hiring for the Chicago Bears, and is you know,

1985
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 2: taking up residents at Hollis Hall. So you have to

1986
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:39,760
Speaker 2: take all of these rumors and innuendos and group think

1987
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 2: echo chamber, you know, statements floating in the ether with

1988
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 2: a grand assault until the Bears actually begin the interview process.

1989
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,280
Speaker 2: And I think for some people this would be concerning

1990
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,560
Speaker 2: if true. Johnson appears to be the best candidate for

1991
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:57,320
Speaker 2: the Bears opening because of his offensive proclivities. But I

1992
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 2: don't even know if that's true. Do you really need

1993
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 2: to hire a guy who's learning down the job and

1994
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 2: has to be the CEO of a franchise in front

1995
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 2: of one of the greatest fan bases in the National

1996
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:12,120
Speaker 2: Football League and have to produce results right away with

1997
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 2: the culture that currently exists. Look, I'm here to tell

1998
01:54:15,479 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 2: you I cover the Lions ten years. And if you're

1999
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 2: an offensive coordinator, you're head coach of the offense. You're

2000
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 2: a defensive coordinator, you're head coach of the defense. When

2001
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 2: you're a head coach of your CEO, you wear a

2002
01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:29,160
Speaker 2: totally different hat. It's a completely different skill set. All right,

2003
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 2: Johnson appears to be the best candidate according to some

2004
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 2: for the Bears opening. And if Poles is in fact

2005
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 2: avoiding the Lions and this you know coach because of

2006
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 2: what it may mean for his future, Well, does that

2007
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:46,600
Speaker 2: mean Kevin Warren steps in and takes action and does

2008
01:54:46,640 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 2: he remove Ryan Pols? I don't know, okay, but this

2009
01:54:50,720 --> 01:54:55,840
Speaker 2: is a rumor that you know, predicted also that the

2010
01:54:55,880 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 2: Bears would be the best bet when predicting where Ben

2011
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 2: Johnson would you know, end up this offseason if in

2012
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 2: fact he leaves Detroit and gets an NFL job. Now,

2013
01:55:06,040 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 2: it's it's my understanding that after the you know, the

2014
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 2: Bears played their final game Sunday, there'll be a press conference.

2015
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,000
Speaker 2: Ryan pulls a hold of press conference at House Hall,

2016
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 2: and it's presumed at that time they will be discussing,

2017
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:24,520
Speaker 2: you know, the Bears head coaching search, as this will

2018
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:28,200
Speaker 2: this will be obviously first and foremost and will be

2019
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 2: critical and an important juncture to determine not only you know,

2020
01:55:33,320 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 2: what the Bears are going to do, but where things

2021
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 2: stand between the polls and Ryan Poles and the Bears

2022
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 2: and what direction the team wants to go. So there's

2023
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 2: a lot of movie parts. But there's also another part

2024
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 2: of this story that might scare or concern Bears fans

2025
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:49,880
Speaker 2: if they're the one that truly want Ryan Poles. Ryan

2026
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 2: are checked out, truly wrot Ben Johnson. There is another

2027
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 2: team that whose name quietly under the radar, that continues

2028
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 2: to be linked to Ben Johnson. And it's a rumor

2029
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:06,920
Speaker 2: that's surfacing a little bit more every day. All right,

2030
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 2: And we know that coaches across the league, they move

2031
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:12,600
Speaker 2: from staff to staff, team to team, and the playoffs

2032
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 2: being there's going to be some sort of patience with

2033
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 2: teams who have head coaching vacancies, but there are an

2034
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,920
Speaker 2: inevitable hirings and firings in one of those appears to

2035
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 2: be I don't call for a man's job. It appears

2036
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 2: to be the wins that change are very clear in

2037
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 2: Jacksonville and that Doug Peterson and their general manager Trent

2038
01:56:29,720 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 2: Balky are on the hot seat. They have a very

2039
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 2: terrible season this year under very disappointing and if the

2040
01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 2: Jaguars were to move on from Peterson, and you're going

2041
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 2: to don't look now, we're twenty four to forty eight

2042
01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 2: hours for what Black Monday and the latest reports, and

2043
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 2: even Pete Prisco, who once worked as the Jaguars beat reporter,

2044
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 2: mentioned on social media that Ben Johnson would be a

2045
01:56:53,520 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: great fit for the Jaguars, why because of their franchise

2046
01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 2: quarterback Trevor Lawrence. But there's also a hang up in

2047
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,920
Speaker 2: the form of Trent Balkey. Pete Prisker went out to

2048
01:57:03,920 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 2: say Ben Johnson's would be so good for Trevor Lawrence,

2049
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 2: but it won't happen until Trent Balkey is gone. Now,

2050
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, his name continues to be tied to potentd

2051
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:20,880
Speaker 2: to this theoretical potential Jacksonville Jaguars opening, even though nothing

2052
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 2: again can be official until the Jaguars actually have an opening,

2053
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 2: and they don't. So for now, the Jags I believe

2054
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 2: they face the Texans Sunday. Doug Peterson is still on

2055
01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 2: the sidelines. Actually check that they're on the road against Indianapolis.

2056
01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 2: But there appears to be for people reportedness smarter than me,

2057
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:43,840
Speaker 2: that Doug Peterson will not be there next year. If

2058
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 2: that's the case, they're now saying that the Jaguars are

2059
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:53,040
Speaker 2: a logical landing spot for Ben Johnson. So bears Jaguars,

2060
01:57:53,240 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 2: who knows, by the way, the Lions got bigger fish

2061
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 2: to fry Sunday night, and I'm sure they're not too

2062
01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:01,920
Speaker 2: worried about this, and Benson should be either should be

2063
01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 2: worried about whether or not his defense can hold a

2064
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 2: lead if they get him one. Coming up? What kind

2065
01:58:05,680 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 2: of brand new fool you? And what my name? Keep

2066
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Speaker 2: it locked? Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. While that's right,

2067
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Speaker 2: You look forward to it all week long, one hundred

2075
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,000
Speaker 2: and sixty eight hours away, and here it is. You see,

2076
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 2: because as Yogi Berra once said, you know you can

2077
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:53,280
Speaker 2: observe a lot by watching, and that's exactly what we

2078
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 2: do here on the Bernie Frattle Show. Because around this

2079
01:58:55,560 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 2: great land of ours, from seed to oily Sea and

2080
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:02,320
Speaker 2: certainly even around the grul the planet will people engage

2081
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 2: in behaviors. They engage in oddball silliness and oftentimes is

2082
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 2: sort of innocuous and just a little crazy, but many

2083
01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 2: other times can morph into things more serious. Run a

2084
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,640
Speaker 2: file of the law, can even land you in jail.

2085
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 2: But anyway you slice it, any way you describe it,

2086
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 2: anyway you characterize it, well, these behaviors always always leave

2087
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 2: us scratching our head and asking ourselves, what kind of

2088
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:36,280
Speaker 2: brand new fool are you? So?

2089
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 1: What kind of brand new fool are you?

2090
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:43,400
Speaker 2: Well, as usual, this one's a beauty and will very

2091
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 2: much leave you scratching your head as it left the

2092
01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 2: Seminole County Sheriff's Department scratching their head. Yep, shay, good news.

2093
01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 2: We take you back to Florida. We take you back

2094
01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 2: to Seminole where a gentleman, we'll just call him Jane,

2095
02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 2: fifty six year old James entered a Chase Bank branch

2096
02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:12,720
Speaker 2: recently and approached a teller, and he had a gun

2097
02:00:12,840 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 2: tucked under his shirt, and as he walked into the bank,

2098
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:19,720
Speaker 2: he looked at the teller with his hand and his

2099
02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:23,400
Speaker 2: gun under his shirt and demanded it the teller hand

2100
02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 2: over cash and then said, quote according to the police department, quote,

2101
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 2: advised here not to push any buttons as he waited

2102
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,960
Speaker 2: for her to open a drawer. Well, the bank employee

2103
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 2: complied and handed over the princely sum of one d

2104
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:50,160
Speaker 2: and twenty dollars one hundred and twenty dollars one hundred

2105
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 2: and twenty dollars James, so that's a pretty good haul

2106
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:57,600
Speaker 2: for today, and he had it out. What's interesting is

2107
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:03,640
Speaker 2: you could easily see under mister james shirt was not

2108
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:07,040
Speaker 2: a gun, but it was a finger in the shape

2109
02:01:07,080 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 2: of a gun. Was right out of three Stooges Woody

2110
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 2: Allen cartoon movie. This dude walks into a bank, robbing

2111
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 2: a bank with a gun. This, according to the police report.

2112
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 2: With a hand under his shirt, mister James made the

2113
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:28,280
Speaker 2: shape of a gun with his finger and demanded the

2114
02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:30,960
Speaker 2: cash be handed over. He got one hundred and twenty

2115
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 2: dollars and took off. He was caught within nine minutes.

2116
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:44,600
Speaker 2: Nine minutes mister James, who the cops who've described as

2117
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:50,000
Speaker 2: a transient, was arrested charged with robbery. He's being held

2118
02:01:50,120 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 2: in the County Jaia in lieu of ten thousand dollars

2119
02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,760
Speaker 2: bond on felony court. This is the part that kind

2120
02:01:56,760 --> 02:02:01,560
Speaker 2: of cracks me up. According to the Planet, the complaint

2121
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 2: and the police report, no weapons were seized from mister

2122
02:02:06,440 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 2: James one hundred and twenty dollars with a finger gun

2123
02:02:10,800 --> 02:02:14,879
Speaker 2: under his shirt only in Florida, right, mister jameson seminole

2124
02:02:14,960 --> 02:02:17,480
Speaker 2: robbing one hundred and twenty dollars from a bank. What

2125
02:02:17,640 --> 02:02:23,040
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool are you? Okay, Shay, let's

2126
02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 2: go baby.

2127
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 6: That's a good one man. The finger guns, they go

2128
02:02:28,040 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 6: a long way, they go a long way. Well, this

2129
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 6: one goes to Texas where get ready for this headline

2130
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:38,960
Speaker 6: Bernie Texas teen killed goat at school barn used for

2131
02:02:39,120 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 6: livestock contests. So I guess there's certain high schools out

2132
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 6: there in the US that do livestock contests. I haven't

2133
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:48,480
Speaker 6: heard of this. Have you wear any.

2134
02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:56,480
Speaker 2: That could that in and of itself could pose multiple

2135
02:02:56,600 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 2: questions in terms of what comprises a live stock contest,

2136
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,880
Speaker 2: And I mean, yeah, I've not heard of it. Let

2137
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 2: me just let me just answer the question directly. No, sir,

2138
02:03:05,880 --> 02:03:06,560
Speaker 2: I've not heard of that.

2139
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:08,840
Speaker 6: So I'm assuming it has something to do with just

2140
02:03:09,520 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 6: how a certain animal looks. I think I've seen videos

2141
02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:14,080
Speaker 6: and all that, but I didn't know they had it

2142
02:03:14,120 --> 02:03:17,040
Speaker 6: in high school. But anyway, this leads me to this

2143
02:03:17,120 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 6: story where a seventeen year old Texas girl has been

2144
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:25,320
Speaker 6: charged with animal cruelty after she killed another teenage goat

2145
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 6: a teenager's goat by force feeding it pesticides because she

2146
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 6: believe the goats keeper was a cheater. According to the authorities,

2147
02:03:36,200 --> 02:03:41,720
Speaker 6: the girl, Aubrey van Landingham, was questioned at Vista Ridge

2148
02:03:41,840 --> 02:03:44,720
Speaker 6: High School in Cedar Park near Austin, Texas by a

2149
02:03:44,800 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 6: law enforcement officer. The school has a liveck livestock barn

2150
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,040
Speaker 6: where the goat was found dead on October twenty fourth,

2151
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. The school also has a robust partnership

2152
02:03:55,960 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 6: where basically they do that every month they'll have like

2153
02:04:00,960 --> 02:04:05,080
Speaker 6: a different livestock contests. So this is a pretty big

2154
02:04:05,080 --> 02:04:10,360
Speaker 6: deal in that high school. So the miss Landingham actually

2155
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 6: originally denied responsibility, but later confessed to having fed pesticide

2156
02:04:15,360 --> 02:04:19,160
Speaker 6: to the goat named Willie, which resulted in the goat's

2157
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:23,200
Speaker 6: swift and painful death according to an affidavid and arrest

2158
02:04:23,240 --> 02:04:27,000
Speaker 6: weren't filed by the detective in Williamson County in November.

2159
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 6: Miss van Landingham was arrested on November twenty second and

2160
02:04:31,000 --> 02:04:34,600
Speaker 6: later posted a five thousand dollars bond. According to court records,

2161
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,680
Speaker 6: she agreed to not have any contact with the family

2162
02:04:37,680 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 6: that owned and kept Willy the Goat. She also agreed

2163
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 6: to not look after any animals, but may look after

2164
02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:50,560
Speaker 6: her own pets under adult supervision. Cruelty and livestock animals

2165
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:54,120
Speaker 6: are a felony and actually carries a maximum sentence of

2166
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 6: two years in prison and ten thousand dollars penalty in

2167
02:04:58,360 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 6: Miss van Landingham schedule to beer back in court on

2168
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:06,760
Speaker 6: January fifteenth. So that just leads me to say, it's

2169
02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 6: Van Landingham. What kind of brand new fool are you.

2170
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm guessing she's going to get some jail time if

2171
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:14,280
Speaker 2: you're murder a god. Is that fair?

2172
02:05:14,960 --> 02:05:17,760
Speaker 6: I think so? I mean it was it was this

2173
02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 6: pretty big deal too, in terms of the contests and

2174
02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:24,160
Speaker 6: all that. So, I mean, I'm sure they press charges.

2175
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:32,080
Speaker 2: So can you imagine you know Rikers Island, Hey Van Lanningham,

2176
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 2: you know inmate number one three seven six, nine nine two.

2177
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 2: What are you in for? I killed a gold with

2178
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 2: some trick nine. Yeah, what are you went for? I

2179
02:05:43,840 --> 02:05:47,360
Speaker 2: murdered a family of seven. Oh nice to meet you.

2180
02:05:47,400 --> 02:05:51,160
Speaker 2: Oh my god. By the way, just ever so quickly,

2181
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:55,680
Speaker 2: these livestock contests, I mean, what do you win if

2182
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:57,000
Speaker 2: you win a livestock contest.

2183
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 6: Well, I'm not sure in high school what you win.

2184
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 6: I'm sure it's just prizes in high school. And maybe

2185
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,200
Speaker 6: there's something in college and all that so they can

2186
02:06:05,240 --> 02:06:08,160
Speaker 6: go on to like college. But I know an actual

2187
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 6: livestock contests, there's actually like prize money and different things

2188
02:06:14,240 --> 02:06:16,280
Speaker 6: like that, metals.

2189
02:06:17,400 --> 02:06:18,880
Speaker 2: Maybe a free oxtail dinner.

2190
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 6: I could definitely see that hat on the table. I've

2191
02:06:23,680 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 6: been looking for good oxtail dinners near me in LA.

2192
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,520
Speaker 6: It's not a lot, Brandy, I'll tell you that.

2193
02:06:28,600 --> 02:06:31,040
Speaker 2: You know that's something that actually is big in Texas.

2194
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:36,240
Speaker 2: Ox tail, Yeah, no joke. I've not had it. Have

2195
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:38,320
Speaker 2: you had ox? Have you ever had it? No? I do.

2196
02:06:38,520 --> 02:06:41,360
Speaker 6: But I keep seeing on my Instagram those oxtail plates

2197
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:44,680
Speaker 6: with mac and cheese and grits and oxtail, and oh

2198
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:49,520
Speaker 6: my god, I want one so bad. Oh, Barnie, I'll

2199
02:06:49,520 --> 02:06:51,440
Speaker 6: send it over to you. They look insane. I eat

2200
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:53,760
Speaker 6: a lot of lamb it reminds me of lamb a lot,

2201
02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:57,360
Speaker 6: so I like. I like that, but it it looks

2202
02:06:57,360 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 6: like lamb neck honestly.

2203
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 2: Of course, you know begs gratuitous statement. I'm guessing I've

2204
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 2: never had lamb. Does lamb taste like chicken?

2205
02:07:04,840 --> 02:07:06,960
Speaker 6: You've never had lamb at all?

2206
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,360
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm not a You're gonna have to forgive me, Shay,

2207
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm not an. I am not a.

2208
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 6: Lamb is more like red meat, red meat, does it? Yeah,

2209
02:07:14,280 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 6: it's more. It's more red meat. Yeah, it's pretty tender.

2210
02:07:18,080 --> 02:07:20,000
Speaker 6: It's it falls off the bone pretty easily.

2211
02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:22,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell you a quick story. I'll get off track

2212
02:07:22,440 --> 02:07:25,720
Speaker 2: because I guess I'm not too ashamed to admit I'm

2213
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 2: the most basic eater of all time. Just a very

2214
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:31,600
Speaker 2: xenophobic when it comes to eating. I'll eat some normal stuff,

2215
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 2: but not I just can't go crazy.

2216
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:34,560
Speaker 4: Right.

2217
02:07:35,360 --> 02:07:38,360
Speaker 2: One time, though, I was I think I was in

2218
02:07:38,440 --> 02:07:42,320
Speaker 2: Colorado or Hamburger, and they brought the hamburger to tasted different. Right,

2219
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:45,440
Speaker 2: This is pretty good, man, Actually it tastes something different.

2220
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:49,360
Speaker 2: He goes, oh, shoot, we brought you a venison burger

2221
02:07:49,440 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 2: and I was eating venison. Didn't even know it. But

2222
02:07:51,640 --> 02:07:55,280
Speaker 2: I can't lie. Uh, it was good. And then the

2223
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:57,560
Speaker 2: minute I found out it was venison, you know, I

2224
02:07:57,600 --> 02:07:59,360
Speaker 2: wound up my arman through an eighty eight mile hours

2225
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 2: fastball and rashly just my brain just couldn't get my

2226
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 2: mind around. I'll tell you one worse, many many many

2227
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:06,760
Speaker 2: years ago. I was at a convention in Palm Springs.

2228
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 2: I mean, this is way way way, way, way way

2229
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:12,040
Speaker 2: way way back when. And you know, it's that one

2230
02:08:12,080 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 2: of those outdoors soarewe's and you're up dressed up in suits,

2231
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 2: and and uh, these waiters kept coming by with these

2232
02:08:19,240 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 2: plates and this, uh, these toothpicks with kind of like

2233
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:28,120
Speaker 2: this barbecue chicken, right, spicy chicken, and I grab a

2234
02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:30,760
Speaker 2: couple of toothpicking. I might have had a few cream dements.

2235
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, I'm hungry, and uh, all

2236
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:36,120
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I grab a toothpick, and oh my god,

2237
02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:41,640
Speaker 2: this chicken is really good. It's spicy, it's tasty, It's

2238
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:44,280
Speaker 2: got a little bit different consistency. Wonder I wonder how

2239
02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 2: they prepared it. Did they guilt, did they grill it,

2240
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 2: did they boil? What did they do? This is this

2241
02:08:48,720 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 2: is really good. So after about eight toothpicks of chicken.

2242
02:08:53,320 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 2: The waiter comes by. I go, hey, man, this is

2243
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,240
Speaker 2: really good. Uh how did they prepare this chicken? And

2244
02:08:58,280 --> 02:09:02,840
Speaker 2: the waiter looks at me and says, chicken. That's not chicken,

2245
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:08,600
Speaker 2: that's snake. Oh snake snake?

2246
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 6: I can't say.

2247
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:13,640
Speaker 2: And I had like eight of them, and before I

2248
02:09:13,720 --> 02:09:17,120
Speaker 2: knew they were snake, I was like, these are good.

2249
02:09:17,160 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 2: The minute I found out they were snake, you might

2250
02:09:21,560 --> 02:09:24,280
Speaker 2: as well if you've just been standing next to me

2251
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:26,680
Speaker 2: with a chainsaw. I always said, Shaye, just kill me

2252
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 2: with a chainsaw.

2253
02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:28,960
Speaker 6: I don't believe it.

2254
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:32,280
Speaker 2: I just did. It freaked me out. So really, yeah, yeah,

2255
02:09:32,320 --> 02:09:34,200
Speaker 2: I can't lie man, I'm a basic get all right.

2256
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:36,840
Speaker 2: Well that will conclude another rhusing edition. Got a little

2257
02:09:36,880 --> 02:09:40,480
Speaker 2: off track there of what kind of brand new fool you?

2258
02:09:40,680 --> 02:09:43,919
Speaker 2: Which now opens the door and allows us to secuay

2259
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:47,280
Speaker 2: into our second favorite bit that we lovingly refer to

2260
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 2: as what my name? And here we go. So, Shay,

2261
02:09:54,560 --> 02:09:59,080
Speaker 2: you're a college football officionado, of course, So the Alabama

2262
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:03,200
Speaker 2: Crimson let me tell you a whole lot of head cracking.

2263
02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:05,800
Speaker 2: They only won nine games this year. Well, the last

2264
02:10:05,800 --> 02:10:10,560
Speaker 2: time the Alabama Crimson Tide failed to win ten games.

2265
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 2: I was their head coach. What my name is? That?

2266
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 6: Is this for me?

2267
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 2: It is you? For you, Shay, I'm sorry, no, it

2268
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:20,240
Speaker 2: is not.

2269
02:10:20,480 --> 02:10:25,240
Speaker 6: Is so the last time they won less than ten

2270
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:26,760
Speaker 6: games is the question?

2271
02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:30,840
Speaker 2: Because you know they didn't after getting there a butt

2272
02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:35,160
Speaker 2: kicked by Michigan. They ended up with nine wins. The

2273
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 2: last time they failed to win ten games, I was

2274
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:40,920
Speaker 2: the head coach, Shaye, what my name?

2275
02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 6: I don't think it was saving. It wasn't saving. Let's

2276
02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:48,400
Speaker 6: go Mike Shula.

2277
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:53,200
Speaker 2: Mike Shula, which excuse me, sir, I think I just

2278
02:10:53,280 --> 02:10:57,920
Speaker 2: choked on some speak there. Uh it's not Mike Shola.

2279
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:00,560
Speaker 2: But that's really a damn good guess because you are

2280
02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:05,400
Speaker 2: aware of how bad Shoe was stunk it up. The

2281
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 2: last time the Alabama Crimson tie who won lesson ten games?

2282
02:11:13,120 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 2: I was a head coach, Mark Ramsey. What my name?

2283
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:20,840
Speaker 2: And here's the clue. It may have been mentioned just

2284
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:25,240
Speaker 2: a minute ago by one mister Shay.

2285
02:11:26,760 --> 02:11:27,720
Speaker 7: Is it Nick Saban?

2286
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:35,680
Speaker 2: It is Nick Saban. By the way, I just got

2287
02:11:35,680 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 2: a tweet from a gentleman named Robert Baker. He says,

2288
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 2: come on, Bernie, relating to the livestock it's called FFA

2289
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:46,440
Speaker 2: Future Farmers of America Traditional Royal Blue Jacket John mellencap

2290
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:50,400
Speaker 2: or Seymour Indiana FFA jacket in the video Big Money

2291
02:11:50,440 --> 02:11:55,600
Speaker 2: and College Scholarships at play? Hey, can you bet on it?

2292
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 2: Can you pull a groin? Can you trash talk? I'm

2293
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:01,760
Speaker 2: all about it, good tweet, Robert, because I'm all about

2294
02:12:02,160 --> 02:12:05,440
Speaker 2: ff A livestock knowledge. But in all fairness, if this

2295
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 2: is in fact the big deal, I don't want to

2296
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:10,040
Speaker 2: minimize it. So there we have a clay, pretty shape,

2297
02:12:10,040 --> 02:12:15,000
Speaker 2: pretty good stuff. Huh your thoughts, it's very good. It's

2298
02:12:15,080 --> 02:12:19,400
Speaker 2: very good. Okay, all right, it's commonplace now when a

2299
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:23,720
Speaker 2: team wins the super Bowl, the president invites them to

2300
02:12:23,760 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 2: the White House. I'm actually the first president in history

2301
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:31,800
Speaker 2: to invite a super Bowl winner to the White House.

2302
02:12:32,520 --> 02:12:33,880
Speaker 2: Shaye Mogngard, What my name?

2303
02:12:34,640 --> 02:12:35,200
Speaker 6: The first?

2304
02:12:35,320 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, I was actually the first president.

2305
02:12:38,240 --> 02:12:45,080
Speaker 6: So the first president to invite let's go, let's go.

2306
02:12:45,240 --> 02:12:46,280
Speaker 6: Mark help me out here.

2307
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:48,880
Speaker 7: I was gonna say, mister Truman.

2308
02:12:50,760 --> 02:12:54,040
Speaker 2: They played the super Bowl during Harry Truman's years. But

2309
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:58,120
Speaker 2: I love the answer. It's not Harry Truman.

2310
02:12:58,280 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 6: I liked I'd liked it too, you liked it.

2311
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let so would that be your answer then.

2312
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:08,280
Speaker 6: Shay no, because you said no, so that'd be that

2313
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:14,360
Speaker 6: would be dumb with me. I'm gonna say, I don't know,

2314
02:13:14,440 --> 02:13:16,560
Speaker 6: jim Jimmy Carter is Jimmy Carter.

2315
02:13:17,280 --> 02:13:20,200
Speaker 2: No way. My clue is going to be he just

2316
02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 2: passed away.

2317
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:23,640
Speaker 6: Oh it was, in.

2318
02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:27,680
Speaker 2: Fact, Jimmy Carter ex to me, look at you.

2319
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:30,240
Speaker 6: All right, how's a total guess.

2320
02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:36,760
Speaker 2: We move on. Recently, in the history of quarterbacks in

2321
02:13:36,760 --> 02:13:42,040
Speaker 2: the National Football League, I achieved the distinction of being

2322
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:44,360
Speaker 2: sacked more than any other quarterback in the history of

2323
02:13:44,360 --> 02:13:46,960
Speaker 2: the National Football League. I'm up to five hundred and

2324
02:13:46,960 --> 02:13:50,960
Speaker 2: sixty eight. Mark Ramsey, what my name. Here's a clue.

2325
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,920
Speaker 2: He's still playing. He's still playing.

2326
02:13:56,120 --> 02:13:58,880
Speaker 7: Quarterback who has been sacked a bunch.

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02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:01,840
Speaker 2: More than any buddy in history, more than anybody in

2328
02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 2: his five hundred and sixty eight.

2329
02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 7: I'm five hundred and sixty.

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02:14:05,800 --> 02:14:07,680
Speaker 2: Eight, five hundred and sixty eight.

2331
02:14:07,760 --> 02:14:09,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Caleb Williams.

2332
02:14:11,360 --> 02:14:15,960
Speaker 2: Kind of seems like it, even though it's only I

2333
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:20,320
Speaker 2: am as a as a quarterback of the National Football League,

2334
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:22,360
Speaker 2: I've been sacked more than any other quarterback in history.

2335
02:14:22,400 --> 02:14:26,680
Speaker 2: Five hundred and sixty eight times, Shaye, what my name?

2336
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:31,840
Speaker 6: There's two heads in my head.

2337
02:14:32,080 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 2: He won a Super Bowl. He talks too damn much.

2338
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:36,360
Speaker 6: Rogers.

2339
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:37,560
Speaker 2: It is Aaron Rodgers.

2340
02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:40,880
Speaker 6: Okay, I was gonna say David, not David Carr, Derek

2341
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:42,000
Speaker 6: Carr first.

2342
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:46,440
Speaker 2: But just remember, I mean, if you're sacked four times

2343
02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:47,960
Speaker 2: a game, you still have to play eight years.

2344
02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why Rogers Rodgers is okay.

2345
02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:53,520
Speaker 2: He's been around twenty years. Well, okay, which leads to

2346
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:59,720
Speaker 2: our next, our next contestant. He Rogers had to break

2347
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:03,000
Speaker 2: somebody record, right of course. So when Rogers was sacked,

2348
02:15:03,360 --> 02:15:06,200
Speaker 2: he's five hundred and sixty six at the time. He

2349
02:15:06,320 --> 02:15:10,879
Speaker 2: broke my record for being all time quarterback sacked. Mark Ramsey,

2350
02:15:10,920 --> 02:15:14,240
Speaker 2: what my name? Here's a clue. He's currently working as

2351
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:18,400
Speaker 2: a broadcaster for NFL games on the Fox.

2352
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:24,640
Speaker 7: Current on Fox? Oh is it Terry Bradshaw?

2353
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:30,760
Speaker 2: Not Terry Bradshaw, although that's not a bad guess. This

2354
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:34,040
Speaker 2: guy won more than one Super Bowl. What my name, Shay,

2355
02:15:34,360 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 2: I've been sacked. Aaron Rodgers broke my record for being

2356
02:15:37,400 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 2: sacked more than anybody else.

2357
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:41,640
Speaker 6: This goat is still alive. And this coat's name is

2358
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:42,360
Speaker 6: Tom Brady.

2359
02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:49,800
Speaker 2: Tom Brady lev He's won a few livestock contests in

2360
02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:50,640
Speaker 2: his day as well.

2361
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:52,120
Speaker 6: He definitely has.

2362
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely all right, moving right along, It's a year

2363
02:15:57,080 --> 02:15:59,720
Speaker 2: for record breakers. As a rookie. I broke the most

2364
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:02,520
Speaker 2: yard rards for a tight end by a rookie for

2365
02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:06,680
Speaker 2: all time, just this season. Mark Ramsey, what my name.

2366
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 8: Is it? Somebody named Bowers?

2367
02:16:13,520 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it. Buddy's Brock Bowers of the Loss

2368
02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:23,400
Speaker 2: Vegas Raiders. Well, once again he had to break somebody's record.

2369
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:26,160
Speaker 2: So when it came to the most tight end yards

2370
02:16:26,200 --> 02:16:30,560
Speaker 2: by a rookie, I held the record going back sixty

2371
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:34,360
Speaker 2: two years. He broke my record. Let's stay with Mark,

2372
02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:35,959
Speaker 2: because I think Mark's gonna get this. It might be

2373
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:38,480
Speaker 2: a city he's familiar with. Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2374
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:41,800
Speaker 7: I was a late because it's so old. I was

2375
02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:42,920
Speaker 7: thinking Dave Casper.

2376
02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:48,920
Speaker 2: Oh it's even older than that, Think Chicago. Brock Bowers

2377
02:16:48,959 --> 02:16:52,200
Speaker 2: broke my record for tight end tight end yards by

2378
02:16:52,200 --> 02:16:55,760
Speaker 2: a rookie Seaane Ogngar, what my name? Here's a clue.

2379
02:16:55,840 --> 02:17:00,960
Speaker 2: He also coached coach didn't won a Super Bowl for

2380
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:04,880
Speaker 2: the Bear Dipka Mike Ditka, Oh wow, you got to

2381
02:17:04,920 --> 02:17:07,000
Speaker 2: see film on that dude. Man, he was crazy. I

2382
02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:11,199
Speaker 2: didn't know that he was crazy, good crazy and crazy crazy.

2383
02:17:12,160 --> 02:17:17,320
Speaker 2: You still quay craye? Okay, never mind, Bob, all right,

2384
02:17:17,320 --> 02:17:19,520
Speaker 2: we just awarded a Heisman Trophy winner. Well, I'm the

2385
02:17:19,520 --> 02:17:25,080
Speaker 2: only college football player to actually win the Heisman Trophy twice?

2386
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, what my name?

2387
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:33,320
Speaker 8: The only I can only think of Desmond Howard. But

2388
02:17:33,440 --> 02:17:34,920
Speaker 8: that's not right, is it?

2389
02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:37,680
Speaker 2: It's not right. He wanted in uh, he wanted in

2390
02:17:37,800 --> 02:17:42,320
Speaker 2: uh at Michigan back in ninety one, but he didn't

2391
02:17:42,360 --> 02:17:45,520
Speaker 2: win it twice. He didn't win it twice. But good, good,

2392
02:17:45,560 --> 02:17:51,400
Speaker 2: guess all right, Shay, I'm the only Heisman Trophy winner

2393
02:17:51,520 --> 02:17:56,080
Speaker 2: in history to win the Heisman Trophy twice. Now here's

2394
02:17:56,080 --> 02:18:01,080
Speaker 2: a clue. It's for a school that was is, in fact,

2395
02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:05,720
Speaker 2: a very big rival of Michigan, the buck Eyes. Yes, so,

2396
02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:12,520
Speaker 2: Archie Archie Manning, Archie Archie Griffin.

2397
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:15,119
Speaker 6: He'll do it, please?

2398
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:18,640
Speaker 2: What is wrong with me? Yeah? No, it might be

2399
02:18:18,680 --> 02:18:21,160
Speaker 2: having an affection that snake meat I eat at that Damn.

2400
02:18:22,440 --> 02:18:24,959
Speaker 2: It's a while back. You know that stuff will stay

2401
02:18:24,959 --> 02:18:28,800
Speaker 2: with you a while, you know, mentally, think, freak me out,

2402
02:18:29,480 --> 02:18:31,760
Speaker 2: it was way worse than the Venicon burger way worse.

2403
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,720
Speaker 6: It's just, you know, I need anything warning I try it.

2404
02:18:34,959 --> 02:18:37,240
Speaker 2: I admire people like you. There are people that do that.

2405
02:18:38,480 --> 02:18:40,600
Speaker 2: To do that. My dad used to make fun of

2406
02:18:40,600 --> 02:18:42,160
Speaker 2: me because everybody he was a kid. No matter where

2407
02:18:42,200 --> 02:18:45,320
Speaker 2: we went, we I ordered a hamburger. Really, I went

2408
02:18:45,320 --> 02:18:47,520
Speaker 2: to a Chinese first. Somebody went to a Chinese restaurant

2409
02:18:47,560 --> 02:18:52,880
Speaker 2: order to guy says, no, they have hamburgers. Seriously, and

2410
02:18:52,959 --> 02:18:57,320
Speaker 2: so one time we go to a Chinese restaurant and

2411
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:01,200
Speaker 2: the guy says, we don't have hamburgers. Well you got

2412
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:03,840
Speaker 2: ground beef. Yeah, I'll make a hammer. So it came

2413
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:06,920
Speaker 2: out like all deformed, and my dad started laughing. It

2414
02:19:06,920 --> 02:19:09,240
Speaker 2: didn't even look like a hammer, but it tasted like one.

2415
02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:16,080
Speaker 2: So I wish I admire people actually, who can, you know,

2416
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,360
Speaker 2: step out of their comfort zone and eat weird stuff.

2417
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 2: I just you know, I'm not hardwired that way. That

2418
02:19:21,280 --> 02:19:24,959
Speaker 2: little team, I right, all right, all right, a couple

2419
02:19:25,000 --> 02:19:29,680
Speaker 2: more here the Raiders. Oh wait, you know what, I

2420
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:31,280
Speaker 2: tell you what, We're going to skip that one. It's

2421
02:19:31,360 --> 02:19:34,240
Speaker 2: it's just too damn easy. We'll end on one more. Okay, guys,

2422
02:19:34,240 --> 02:19:38,400
Speaker 2: we'll end on this one, right, do it? I am

2423
02:19:38,440 --> 02:19:42,120
Speaker 2: the youngest player in the history of the National Basketball

2424
02:19:42,160 --> 02:19:47,040
Speaker 2: Association to be named to the All Defensive Team. Now,

2425
02:19:47,560 --> 02:19:52,240
Speaker 2: this name came up earlier during my conversation with Mark Medina,

2426
02:19:55,520 --> 02:19:56,520
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, What my.

2427
02:19:56,560 --> 02:19:59,720
Speaker 6: Name is it?

2428
02:20:00,879 --> 02:20:04,280
Speaker 8: The guy from Texas Wemby?

2429
02:20:05,080 --> 02:20:08,320
Speaker 2: You got it, buddy, It's Victor Webman Yama or the

2430
02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:09,840
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs.

2431
02:20:10,879 --> 02:20:12,959
Speaker 4: That would be him.

2432
02:20:13,080 --> 02:20:16,120
Speaker 2: All right, great job, guys. Another rising edition of what

2433
02:20:16,240 --> 02:20:18,960
Speaker 2: kind of brand new fool of You? Followed by what

2434
02:20:19,160 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 2: my name? Is? Now in the books? Well, another one

2435
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:26,400
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty seven hours and thirty seven minutes to

2436
02:20:26,480 --> 02:20:28,760
Speaker 2: the next edition of what kind of brand new fool

2437
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:31,200
Speaker 2: am I? What kind of brand new fool of you?

2438
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:34,760
Speaker 2: I guess I'm one two, followed by what my name?

2439
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody who participated. Best of luck in your

2440
02:20:38,560 --> 02:20:44,240
Speaker 2: future endeavors coming up, The Bernie Frattle Show continues. I'm

2441
02:20:44,240 --> 02:20:46,400
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle. We're coming to your line from the Las

2442
02:20:46,480 --> 02:20:49,720
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2443
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2444
02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:55,280
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2445
02:20:55,280 --> 02:20:59,040
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show. Fox Sports Radio come to Liar from

2446
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2447
02:21:02,240 --> 02:21:05,680
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2448
02:21:05,680 --> 02:21:08,200
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2449
02:21:08,200 --> 02:21:13,280
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2450
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2451
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2453
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2454
02:21:25,440 --> 02:21:27,080
Speaker 2: the air. Well, we covered all here on The Bernie

2455
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:32,080
Speaker 2: Frattle Show, including the sport that's spelled fut b o l.

2456
02:21:32,200 --> 02:21:34,439
Speaker 2: Some people call it soccer, some people call it football.

2457
02:21:35,000 --> 02:21:38,000
Speaker 2: It's time Chris purfets World of Soccer.

2458
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:50,439
Speaker 9: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drum.

2459
02:21:52,320 --> 02:21:53,480
Speaker 1: Him.

2460
02:21:55,560 --> 02:21:59,000
Speaker 3: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2461
02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:01,280
Speaker 10: It's a brand new year, Bernie and the World of

2462
02:22:01,360 --> 02:22:02,560
Speaker 10: Soccer thunders along.

2463
02:22:02,640 --> 02:22:04,879
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Italy.

2464
02:22:05,080 --> 02:22:08,080
Speaker 10: I have some English news to talk about in regards

2465
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,160
Speaker 10: and penalties, but we haven't actually talked about the Siria

2466
02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 10: so far this season. If we take a look at

2467
02:22:13,120 --> 02:22:16,119
Speaker 10: the table, as we are now around the halfway point

2468
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:20,080
Speaker 10: for that season, Napoli standing at the top at with

2469
02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:23,920
Speaker 10: forty four points, three clear of number two, which is Adalanta,

2470
02:22:23,959 --> 02:22:27,400
Speaker 10: which is a very refreshing look. Adelanta has been kicking

2471
02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 10: around for about five six years or so as this

2472
02:22:30,560 --> 02:22:35,000
Speaker 10: very feisty, up and coming, very high powered offense team.

2473
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:38,440
Speaker 10: But Napoli, you'll remember, after I believe they won the

2474
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:42,119
Speaker 10: Scudetto in twenty twenty three, I had some concerns about

2475
02:22:42,120 --> 02:22:44,960
Speaker 10: whether Napoli would be able to keep up this production.

2476
02:22:45,080 --> 02:22:48,560
Speaker 10: It was their first Siia title since the nineties, since Maradona,

2477
02:22:48,879 --> 02:22:50,920
Speaker 10: and I wondered how many of their stars would really

2478
02:22:50,920 --> 02:22:53,160
Speaker 10: get poached, because that was really the life of a

2479
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:55,600
Speaker 10: club like Napoli was to see a lot of their

2480
02:22:55,640 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 10: stars end up having to be sold off for parts

2481
02:22:58,000 --> 02:23:00,800
Speaker 10: that not only didn't happen on a large but it

2482
02:23:00,879 --> 02:23:04,280
Speaker 10: also meant that they've not only kept Kevich, Cavarccellia or

2483
02:23:04,520 --> 02:23:07,560
Speaker 10: as I prefer, Kavaradona, but you've also picked up Romelo

2484
02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:10,840
Speaker 10: Lukaku as a bit of a reclamation project.

2485
02:23:10,879 --> 02:23:12,119
Speaker 1: His time at Chelsea.

2486
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,520
Speaker 10: Didn't go well and after two loans, he found himself

2487
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:17,680
Speaker 10: transferring to Napoli, and he is your goal leader right

2488
02:23:17,720 --> 02:23:21,400
Speaker 10: now with six goals for the club, and it's it's

2489
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:24,720
Speaker 10: a reminder that sometimes maybe not all everything is at

2490
02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,720
Speaker 10: the mercy of the biggest club stylet there. Of course,

2491
02:23:27,720 --> 02:23:32,400
Speaker 10: we're at the halfway point and Syria is notoriously volatile.

2492
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:35,400
Speaker 10: Let's just say Internazionale is in that mix. They're at

2493
02:23:35,440 --> 02:23:38,760
Speaker 10: third with forty points, Lazio, who's always been the bridesmaid,

2494
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:41,720
Speaker 10: never the brides at thirty five and holding up the

2495
02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:44,640
Speaker 10: back here as Juventus and Fiorentina, and maybe a little

2496
02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:46,959
Speaker 10: bit of a long shot for Bologna and Milan, but

2497
02:23:47,080 --> 02:23:50,120
Speaker 10: Milan has definitely taken a step back this year, to

2498
02:23:50,280 --> 02:23:53,800
Speaker 10: be quite sure. Lazio is a very interesting one. They're

2499
02:23:53,840 --> 02:23:57,560
Speaker 10: playing the Rome Derby here coming up on Sunday against

2500
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:01,199
Speaker 10: as Roma, who is a middle team at this point.

2501
02:24:01,400 --> 02:24:04,120
Speaker 10: The bottom's really fallen off for Roma after a few

2502
02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:10,240
Speaker 10: just egregious management decisions all around. However, Roma has been feisty.

2503
02:24:10,320 --> 02:24:12,480
Speaker 10: We did met they pulled out a magical one to

2504
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:17,360
Speaker 10: one draw against Milan, who we just mentioned last week,

2505
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:21,000
Speaker 10: and this is a match that goes down in history,

2506
02:24:21,080 --> 02:24:25,000
Speaker 10: is one of the feistiest in in Italy. The Roma

2507
02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:28,160
Speaker 10: Derby is not one to miss. It's a picture that's

2508
02:24:28,160 --> 02:24:30,760
Speaker 10: still developing. We'll be sure to check in Onnopoly as well.

2509
02:24:30,760 --> 02:24:33,240
Speaker 10: Because it is a historical club, it is a very

2510
02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:37,160
Speaker 10: passionate club and their continued access is fun to see

2511
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:39,920
Speaker 10: and the pressure from other clubs like Milan makes this

2512
02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:40,800
Speaker 10: all interesting.

2513
02:24:41,040 --> 02:24:41,200
Speaker 1: Well.

2514
02:24:41,240 --> 02:24:43,480
Speaker 10: I don't think Milan really has a chance to take

2515
02:24:43,520 --> 02:24:45,920
Speaker 10: the scudetto this year. They do, at the very least

2516
02:24:45,920 --> 02:24:48,320
Speaker 10: have a chance to try to salvage some pride and

2517
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:50,640
Speaker 10: still play for Europe. And if the rumors are to

2518
02:24:50,720 --> 02:24:55,480
Speaker 10: believe they are trying to target Marcus Rashford of Manchester United, however,

2519
02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:57,959
Speaker 10: his price would be a bit of a concern for

2520
02:24:58,080 --> 02:25:00,440
Speaker 10: Milan but something to keep an eye on, and as

2521
02:25:00,480 --> 02:25:04,520
Speaker 10: the transfer window in January has indeed opened. But in

2522
02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:08,720
Speaker 10: another race, Ernie, let's turn our attention to England. Liverpool

2523
02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:12,199
Speaker 10: is playing man You on Sunday. They are five points

2524
02:25:12,240 --> 02:25:15,560
Speaker 10: clear of Arsenal in second place, and with a win

2525
02:25:15,640 --> 02:25:18,600
Speaker 10: over the Red Devils could be eight points clear at

2526
02:25:18,600 --> 02:25:21,520
Speaker 10: this halfway point in the season. But part of that

2527
02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:27,040
Speaker 10: help came with a very interesting officiating call as Arsenal

2528
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:32,000
Speaker 10: drew one one level draw with Brighton and Hove Albion. Now,

2529
02:25:32,080 --> 02:25:34,360
Speaker 10: Arsenal had taking a very early lead in this game,

2530
02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:37,600
Speaker 10: but around the sixty first minute there was a collision

2531
02:25:37,720 --> 02:25:42,920
Speaker 10: of heads between William Saliba and Wollo Pedro and this

2532
02:25:43,080 --> 02:25:47,200
Speaker 10: was called a penalty on Saliba for a headbutt, while

2533
02:25:47,240 --> 02:25:50,280
Speaker 10: Pedro was able to take the penalty shot and drew

2534
02:25:50,360 --> 02:25:53,480
Speaker 10: level and that was the game. There's been a lot

2535
02:25:53,520 --> 02:25:58,800
Speaker 10: of mixed reactions to this right now. There's a lot

2536
02:25:58,840 --> 02:26:01,959
Speaker 10: of fans who believe this was an accidental head butt.

2537
02:26:02,080 --> 02:26:04,480
Speaker 10: A lot of Arsenal fans would love to say that

2538
02:26:04,480 --> 02:26:07,080
Speaker 10: that was such the case that it was not intentional

2539
02:26:07,120 --> 02:26:09,520
Speaker 10: at all, but it was called a penalty on the

2540
02:26:09,520 --> 02:26:13,439
Speaker 10: field and var upheld it. It's a very odd decision.

2541
02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:16,320
Speaker 10: It was both players challenging it for it with their heads.

2542
02:26:16,640 --> 02:26:19,440
Speaker 10: It is what happens when a clash happens, and it's

2543
02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:22,920
Speaker 10: not really intentional. In my book, I know that Mikhail

2544
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:25,960
Speaker 10: Arteta said he did not has seen anything like it.

2545
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 10: I know that Gary Lineker, one of the great broadcasters

2546
02:26:29,879 --> 02:26:32,480
Speaker 10: of soccer in England, was not happy about it and

2547
02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:35,440
Speaker 10: thought that it was clearly being headed by Saliba, and

2548
02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:38,840
Speaker 10: I I had never seen a penalty for head clashes either.

2549
02:26:38,840 --> 02:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Way.

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02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:42,320
Speaker 10: I think what has been highlighted in this entire episode

2551
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:45,920
Speaker 10: has been that Arsenal's defense has been rather chaotic and

2552
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:48,720
Speaker 10: they really put themselves in this position to get a

2553
02:26:48,720 --> 02:26:51,959
Speaker 10: penalty called on someone like Saliba by really not being

2554
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:56,240
Speaker 10: that organized on their defense, and that's really where it starts.

2555
02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:58,440
Speaker 10: It has to start with you have to really clean

2556
02:26:58,480 --> 02:27:02,280
Speaker 10: this kind of stuff up, drawing contentious decisions that might

2557
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:06,039
Speaker 10: draw a penalty and open up opportunities for free goals

2558
02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:08,640
Speaker 10: to the other club. That'll do it for us for now, Bernie,

2559
02:27:08,680 --> 02:27:10,840
Speaker 10: we'll catch you next time on the World of Soccer.

2560
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 10: We've gotten some mail from at least one person asking

2561
02:27:13,640 --> 02:27:16,480
Speaker 10: me about my opinions on MLS. We'll try to address

2562
02:27:16,520 --> 02:27:17,680
Speaker 10: that in the next episode.

2563
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:21,200
Speaker 2: All right, Well, the MLS was really picking up a

2564
02:27:21,240 --> 02:27:25,600
Speaker 2: lot of steam with you know, high bringing in some

2565
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:32,280
Speaker 2: tremendous foreign players over the past few years is Latime

2566
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:35,959
Speaker 2: and the guy who's tremendous and messy and I don't

2567
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,960
Speaker 2: know if I'm wondering if they've lost some of their

2568
02:27:38,360 --> 02:27:40,800
Speaker 2: some of their momentum, but that's why we bring in

2569
02:27:40,840 --> 02:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Chris Purfett's World of Soccer. Coming up, we wrap up

2570
02:27:45,840 --> 02:27:50,680
Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, and uh, there going that man again,

2571
02:27:52,360 --> 02:27:55,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback who may or may not be

2572
02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:59,440
Speaker 2: playing his final game in the National Football League later

2573
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:05,080
Speaker 2: on this afternoon, but he he likes to talk. And

2574
02:28:05,160 --> 02:28:11,720
Speaker 2: he said something this past Wednesday, which for me I

2575
02:28:11,800 --> 02:28:18,560
Speaker 2: happen to find is perhaps one of his more outrageous statements.

2576
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:21,320
Speaker 2: And I mean that, and that says a hell of

2577
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,800
Speaker 2: a lot, because you know, trying to find his most

2578
02:28:24,879 --> 02:28:27,880
Speaker 2: outrageous statement is like picking out your favorite noodl and

2579
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:30,480
Speaker 2: to play the spaghetti. But when you hear what I'm

2580
02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:32,640
Speaker 2: about to share with you, You're going to really ask yourself,

2581
02:28:32,720 --> 02:28:34,680
Speaker 2: is this guy for real? And I think you already

2582
02:28:34,680 --> 02:28:38,360
Speaker 2: know the question, you know the answer. I'm Bernie friddlewic

2583
02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:41,600
Speaker 2: kemedy lyon from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tirerac dot

2584
02:28:41,600 --> 02:28:43,520
Speaker 2: Com Studios. Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie

2585
02:28:43,520 --> 02:28:48,600
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Alrighty, we are wrapping

2586
02:28:48,640 --> 02:28:50,680
Speaker 2: it up on the Bernie Fraddle Show. We are coming

2587
02:28:50,760 --> 02:28:55,320
Speaker 2: alive from the tirerac dot Com studios here in Las Vegas,

2588
02:28:55,360 --> 02:28:59,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Before I go any further to see

2589
02:29:00,600 --> 02:29:04,039
Speaker 2: this morning wherever you may be, one thing, my broadcast

2590
02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:06,760
Speaker 2: team they've been would be they're back in Los Angeles.

2591
02:29:06,840 --> 02:29:10,880
Speaker 2: They've been with me since eleven pm Pacific time on

2592
02:29:11,320 --> 02:29:16,240
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Of course, Mark and Shay guys turning all

2593
02:29:16,280 --> 02:29:19,280
Speaker 2: the dials, keeping us glued together, keeping the train on

2594
02:29:19,320 --> 02:29:22,920
Speaker 2: the tracks, jumping in on brand new fool and what

2595
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:27,879
Speaker 2: My Name, and generally participating in all the high jinks.

2596
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:33,599
Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate. It's a very underrated job what the producers

2597
02:29:33,640 --> 02:29:35,800
Speaker 2: do for us. We would not be on the air

2598
02:29:35,840 --> 02:29:39,640
Speaker 2: without them understanding the technology involved in the ability to

2599
02:29:40,320 --> 02:29:42,800
Speaker 2: hit their marks and make it look simple. Radio is

2600
02:29:42,840 --> 02:29:45,320
Speaker 2: not simple. Key is making it look simple, and that's

2601
02:29:45,320 --> 02:29:49,440
Speaker 2: what these guys do. And you know, if you've ever

2602
02:29:49,480 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 2: heard a good rock and roll band play, you're never

2603
02:29:51,200 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 2: going to notice the drummer. He's keeping the beat unless

2604
02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:55,960
Speaker 2: he gets out of step. These guys are like drummers

2605
02:29:55,959 --> 02:29:59,120
Speaker 2: in a band. A great job. Always appreciate, appreciate our

2606
02:29:59,160 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 2: producers very much much. All right, I don't mean to

2607
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:08,360
Speaker 2: pile on this guy, but maybe I do. I can

2608
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:10,400
Speaker 2: hold two thoughts concurrently, he's going to be a first

2609
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:16,320
Speaker 2: Battle Hall of Famer. And let's assume you are. Your

2610
02:30:16,400 --> 02:30:19,440
Speaker 2: name is Aaron Rodgers, and what the hell. You spent

2611
02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:23,320
Speaker 2: eighteen years with the Green Bay Packers, you won a

2612
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:28,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, you won MVP Awards, you were the toast

2613
02:30:28,720 --> 02:30:32,800
Speaker 2: of the town. And you come to the New York Jets,

2614
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:40,000
Speaker 2: and hell, before the seats are even warm, the first debut,

2615
02:30:40,120 --> 02:30:45,600
Speaker 2: with all the expectations in the world, you infamously Terrier

2616
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:49,720
Speaker 2: Achilles four snaps into the first regular season game, costing

2617
02:30:49,760 --> 02:30:53,879
Speaker 2: you the entire twenty twenty three season in a very painful,

2618
02:30:53,959 --> 02:30:57,560
Speaker 2: lengthy rehab. And then you return in twenty twenty four,

2619
02:30:57,760 --> 02:31:02,199
Speaker 2: but you've not been good. You're averaging a very modest

2620
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:05,280
Speaker 2: two hundred and twenty five yard passing yards per game

2621
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:09,080
Speaker 2: in this man's NFL. You're throwing twenty four touchdown passes,

2622
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:14,160
Speaker 2: ten interceptions, plus your team's been plagued by off field drama,

2623
02:31:14,879 --> 02:31:18,440
Speaker 2: very unflattering rumors, and then you know you had the

2624
02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:21,359
Speaker 2: leaks coming out of the organization. Your coach gets fired,

2625
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:24,080
Speaker 2: your GM gets fired. You get to bring in all

2626
02:31:24,080 --> 02:31:27,600
Speaker 2: the wide receivers you want, and you're blamed for a lot,

2627
02:31:27,680 --> 02:31:32,480
Speaker 2: and you it sucked. This year sucked. And yet you

2628
02:31:32,520 --> 02:31:35,240
Speaker 2: know what is what does Aaron Rodgers think? He is?

2629
02:31:35,800 --> 02:31:40,360
Speaker 2: Bill Medley and dirty dancing. Oh oh the time. Oh

2630
02:31:40,440 --> 02:31:44,119
Speaker 2: my look, come on, shut pour yourself a big glasses,

2631
02:31:44,200 --> 02:31:49,400
Speaker 2: shut up schoos because Aaron Rodgers, it's my understanding. Total

2632
02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:52,920
Speaker 2: Reporters Wednesday. Before I get to that, he says he

2633
02:31:52,959 --> 02:31:56,600
Speaker 2: has no regrets about moving to play to New York. None. Okay, fair,

2634
02:31:57,440 --> 02:32:00,320
Speaker 2: but he says he has quote nothing but quote gratitude, dude,

2635
02:32:00,760 --> 02:32:03,280
Speaker 2: toward the Jets for bringing him in and letting him

2636
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:06,960
Speaker 2: play there for two years. And then he went even

2637
02:32:07,000 --> 02:32:11,720
Speaker 2: further by saying this, wait for it, that New York

2638
02:32:11,800 --> 02:32:17,279
Speaker 2: represented the best years of his life. I mean gratitude. Honestly,

2639
02:32:18,120 --> 02:32:22,440
Speaker 2: it's been the best two years of my life. Roger said, dude,

2640
02:32:23,920 --> 02:32:27,200
Speaker 2: just what the hell is your major malfunction you're gonna

2641
02:32:27,240 --> 02:32:30,080
Speaker 2: tell You're going to expect us to buy this Michieg

2642
02:32:30,120 --> 02:32:35,119
Speaker 2: gos that with everything that's happened, the embarrassment, the poor

2643
02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:43,959
Speaker 2: play in the field, coaches losing their jobs, insult to injury, memes, punchlines,

2644
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:49,840
Speaker 2: rumors that press, you're gonna tell us in your twenty

2645
02:32:49,879 --> 02:32:52,400
Speaker 2: years in the NFL, and before that, your time at

2646
02:32:52,440 --> 02:32:56,279
Speaker 2: cal or Butte Community College, or even in high school,

2647
02:32:57,120 --> 02:32:59,480
Speaker 2: even the time you went to Egypt, or did this

2648
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:04,040
Speaker 2: is the Hiahuasca? This is the best two years of

2649
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:12,439
Speaker 2: your life? You really expect us to buy that? Yeah,

2650
02:33:12,920 --> 02:33:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go have to go ahead and disagree with

2651
02:33:14,959 --> 02:33:18,520
Speaker 2: to their Bill Lumberg Now and why Rayna, I want

2652
02:33:18,600 --> 02:33:23,600
Speaker 2: you to get those TPS reports for us. Look, I

2653
02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:26,440
Speaker 2: get that the last couple of weeks Aaron Rodgers has

2654
02:33:27,680 --> 02:33:30,200
Speaker 2: been you're regrading on the curve. He's played some of

2655
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:32,680
Speaker 2: the best football this season over the last couple of weeks.

2656
02:33:34,320 --> 02:33:38,760
Speaker 2: But irrespective of whether or not Aaron Rodgers is being

2657
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:43,160
Speaker 2: utterly sincere about this being the best two years of

2658
02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:45,480
Speaker 2: his life, I guess the real question is do the

2659
02:33:45,560 --> 02:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Jets feel the same. I don't think the Jets have

2660
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:53,320
Speaker 2: changed their stance on Aaron Rodgers, who was again a

2661
02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:56,120
Speaker 2: four time MVP in Green Bay. We actually won a

2662
02:33:56,160 --> 02:33:57,760
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, But these are the best two years of

2663
02:33:57,760 --> 02:34:02,360
Speaker 2: his life. Sounds to me like he's pining for another

2664
02:34:02,440 --> 02:34:04,320
Speaker 2: bite at the apple, the big apple. Has he what

2665
02:34:04,400 --> 02:34:08,119
Speaker 2: I did there? Wow? One more time? And I think

2666
02:34:08,160 --> 02:34:10,720
Speaker 2: they're crazy if they run this back, even if you

2667
02:34:10,760 --> 02:34:13,480
Speaker 2: don't have a plan B, He'll bring back Richard Todd.

2668
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:18,160
Speaker 2: Since the Jets fired Robert Sala and general manager Joe Douglas.

2669
02:34:18,879 --> 02:34:20,920
Speaker 2: There's been this wide ranging belief that there was no

2670
02:34:20,959 --> 02:34:27,240
Speaker 2: way Aaron Rodgers was going to be back right, and

2671
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:31,800
Speaker 2: that also counts for those who believe have interest in

2672
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:37,320
Speaker 2: the Jets opening at general manager. Right, the expectation is

2673
02:34:38,320 --> 02:34:41,240
Speaker 2: that the Jets will in fact part raised with Aaron Rodgers,

2674
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:44,600
Speaker 2: and there are prospective GM candidates that do not believe

2675
02:34:44,600 --> 02:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson, the owner, will make any mandates about Rogers,

2676
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:52,240
Speaker 2: but a new regime will likely want a fresh start

2677
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:56,040
Speaker 2: at the quarterback position. Now, just this last week against

2678
02:34:56,040 --> 02:35:01,560
Speaker 2: the lowly Jacksonville Jaguars, Rodgers was sixteen to thirty for

2679
02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:04,160
Speaker 2: two to eighty nine to three touchdowns. The interceptions well whooped,

2680
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:08,039
Speaker 2: damn do little too late? Jets are still four and

2681
02:35:08,120 --> 02:35:12,400
Speaker 2: ten and can you imagine after everything? They won seven

2682
02:35:12,440 --> 02:35:15,000
Speaker 2: games last year with Zach Wilson in company and Tim

2683
02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:18,320
Speaker 2: Boyle and we were told all they needed as a quarterback,

2684
02:35:19,080 --> 02:35:20,720
Speaker 2: and yet the Jets are four and ten and they're

2685
02:35:20,720 --> 02:35:23,840
Speaker 2: going to be rebuilding again. Rogers just turned forty one.

2686
02:35:24,120 --> 02:35:26,280
Speaker 2: He's clearly not the same player since you're turning from

2687
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:29,800
Speaker 2: his torn achilles. And how do the fans feel about

2688
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:34,400
Speaker 2: this Right after the Jets flew a fourth quarter leader

2689
02:35:34,400 --> 02:35:37,200
Speaker 2: and lost to Miami last week, Garret Wilson suggested that

2690
02:35:37,280 --> 02:35:40,200
Speaker 2: the team had some sort of losing gene built into

2691
02:35:40,280 --> 02:35:45,480
Speaker 2: their DNA. Rogers was asked about Wilson's comments, and he agreed, quote,

2692
02:35:45,480 --> 02:35:48,959
Speaker 2: there could be a curse hanging over the franchise, but

2693
02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:53,400
Speaker 2: you're going to tell us. You're gonna tell us that

2694
02:35:53,400 --> 02:35:56,039
Speaker 2: these are the best two years of your life. Now.

2695
02:35:56,080 --> 02:36:00,280
Speaker 2: Many fans wasted no time in reacting to the Aaron

2696
02:36:00,360 --> 02:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Rodgers comment because they jumped right on it and said, yeah,

2697
02:36:04,800 --> 02:36:07,680
Speaker 2: we've got a damn Kurts all right, he named Aaron Rodgers.

2698
02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:13,320
Speaker 2: One tweeter said, yeah, that curse is named Aaron Rodgers. Yeah.

2699
02:36:13,840 --> 02:36:16,720
Speaker 2: Another tweeter said, that curse is named Aaron Rodgers. He's

2700
02:36:16,720 --> 02:36:20,800
Speaker 2: old and he sucks, oh boy, but it's the best

2701
02:36:20,840 --> 02:36:23,880
Speaker 2: two years of his life. Another tweeter said that man

2702
02:36:24,040 --> 02:36:29,000
Speaker 2: doesn't own a mirror. Another tweeter said, well, that seems

2703
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:34,840
Speaker 2: like a perfinally, perfectly reasonable exploit. Okay, Bernie, last time

2704
02:36:34,879 --> 02:36:36,560
Speaker 2: around a tone from that place, Well, that seems like

2705
02:36:36,560 --> 02:36:42,920
Speaker 2: a perfectly reasonable explanation for his continuous failures. Look, Rogers

2706
02:36:43,000 --> 02:36:46,880
Speaker 2: had designs of rescuing this torture franchise. Once said that

2707
02:36:47,160 --> 02:36:49,640
Speaker 2: you know that Super Bowl trophies looking a little lonely,

2708
02:36:50,440 --> 02:36:54,199
Speaker 2: will It's still lonely. And I don't think Jets fans

2709
02:36:54,240 --> 02:36:57,960
Speaker 2: want to hear him talking about voodoo theories or talking

2710
02:36:58,000 --> 02:37:02,320
Speaker 2: at all. The Jets have the longest active playoff drought

2711
02:37:02,320 --> 02:37:05,320
Speaker 2: of any major US sports team, and Aaron Rodgers couldn't

2712
02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:08,360
Speaker 2: fix it. But yeah, it's the best two years of

2713
02:37:08,440 --> 02:37:12,760
Speaker 2: his life. Wonder if the Jets feel the same. Good night, folks,

2714
02:37:12,760 --> 02:37:14,640
Speaker 2: you've been listening to the Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it

2715
02:37:14,640 --> 02:37:17,280
Speaker 2: locked up next to great Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio.