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Speaker 2: Play it now.

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Speaker 3: The impeachment drive proved that there were no crimes, much

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Speaker 3: investigation of doctor Fauci shows that he is an honorable

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Speaker 3: These are outrageous concoctions, fabrications, and distortions.

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Speaker 4: But that also was not Biden being called out as

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm going to assume that we're having a

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Speaker 5: Now, I'm gonna do the big deportation, the biggest ever.

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Speaker 5: Eisenhower did the biggest. This will be bigger. But it's

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show Buck, I

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Speaker 4: I am stunned how big of a story this has become.

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Speaker 2: This is stephen A. Smith today on ESPN.

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Speaker 7: There are girls, young ladies in the WNBA who are

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Speaker 4: much like I would say Tiger Woods when he came

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Speaker 4: These girls are just trying to wreck Caitlin Clark. I

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Speaker 1: I think it's also worth asking, what do you call it?

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Speaker 1: If someone chooses, or I should chooses? Isn't really the

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Speaker 1: If somebody despises a person because that person is white

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Speaker 1: It seems to me like it's the ultimate loser mentality

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Speaker 1: guy he played professional lacrosse, and I asked him, in

437
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Speaker 1: all honesty, I was like, I didn't even know there

438
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Speaker 1: was such a thing as professional lacrosse.

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Speaker 2: He goes yeah, He goes, yeah, Well.

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Speaker 1: I played in the season and I made like twenty

441
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Speaker 1: grand and had a full time job. It wasn't you know,

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Speaker 1: to say you're a pro lacrosse is not to say

443
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Speaker 1: like you're a pro MB You know, you're an NBA

444
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Speaker 1: player or something making ten million, thirty million, whatever a year.

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Speaker 2: That's quite the opposite.

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Speaker 1: If somebody came along and was getting paid tens of

447
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Speaker 1: millions of dollars in endorsement money to be a professional

448
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Speaker 1: lacrosse player, you'd have to be an imbecile to think

449
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Speaker 1: that it's a good idea to destroy that person because

450
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Speaker 1: a rising tide will lift all boats and it's better

451
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Speaker 1: for the entire enterprise.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, That's where I think this just shows it's just

454
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Speaker 1: years of a loser mentality of we don't make any money,

455
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Speaker 1: nobody cares. There's a bitterness that seems to be behind

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Speaker 1: any decision to try to hurt a rising star who,

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Speaker 1: as usually have pointed out, it's going to make a

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Speaker 1: lot of money for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: In this industry, in this in this league, the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would be curious to hear from other people.

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Speaker 4: But the way that they are paying attention eight hundred

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Speaker 4: and two A two two eight A two is we're

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Speaker 4: closing out the show today. The cultural impact of Caitlin Clark,

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Speaker 4: this is one that I was wrong on. I did

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Speaker 4: not think that eighteen million or whatever the number is

466
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Speaker 4: people were going to watch the Iowa women play against

467
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Speaker 4: LSU for the national championship.

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Speaker 2: That's that number. Stunned me. Do you remember Jeremy Lynn

469
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Speaker 2: in the NBA? Yeah, I know, yeah, Lin Sanity, Yes, And.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there was this moment where people were like, wow,

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Speaker 1: this guy is all of a sudden, you know, and look,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have a big career and he wasn't a

473
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Speaker 1: great NBA player, but he's in the NBA and he

474
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Speaker 1: just completely caught fire for a while and was scoring

475
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Speaker 1: crazy amounts of points and had some had some really

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Speaker 1: big games. And I think that there was an understanding

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Speaker 1: because the NBA is a big business. It's like, oh,

478
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Speaker 1: a lot of people and particularly overseas, a lot of

479
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Speaker 1: people were really really excited about this about lind sanity,

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Speaker 1: and so it can only help exposure in the Asian

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Speaker 1: TV market, which is absolutely it's the biggest, you know

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Speaker 1: market in the world.

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Speaker 4: Why was so big and why show hey is so

484
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Speaker 4: big in Major League Baseball. The bigger the markets of

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Speaker 4: people that care about your sport, the more money everybody makes, right, right?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 1: But this is what I mean in the NBA, because

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Speaker 1: it's a successful business. I think there's just an understanding

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, Lin Senne is great. If we have

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Speaker 1: you know, millions more people in China or Japan or

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Speaker 1: you know any of the above watching, that just ups

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Speaker 1: our contrary. You know, everyone makes more money on their contracts.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has more viewers. I mean, people want to have

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Speaker 1: as many viewers as possible for their games, right, professional pride,

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Speaker 1: everybody wins.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember, Yeah, I mean you could.

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Speaker 1: Have pointed out the guy, but you know, okay, so

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Speaker 1: he wasn't Michael Jordan, but nobody said he was right.

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Speaker 1: The point was he was bringing new interest and new

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Speaker 1: eyeballs to an entertainment endeavor, which is what sports is,

501
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Speaker 1: as you will know, but an entertainment endeavor. So in

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Speaker 1: this case, the fact that there is resentment, like I said,

503
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Speaker 1: it just comes from such a loser mentality.

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Speaker 4: I also think this is an important time, and I've

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Speaker 4: been making this argument for it feels like fifteen years.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned the reverse racism idea. I would love for

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Speaker 4: politician to just come out and say white people, Asian people,

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Speaker 4: black people, Hispanic people.

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Speaker 2: Every race has racist.

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Speaker 4: The only way we define racism in America is white

511
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Speaker 4: too black.

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Speaker 2: And when you create a.

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Speaker 1: World everybody else actually yeah, well but primarily white to black.

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Speaker 1: But yes, white people are the only racist in the

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Speaker 1: way we talk about racism in America. That has not

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Speaker 1: been my experience. And I think if you're around our age,

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Speaker 1: you have lived long enough to have met people who

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Speaker 1: are racist across every racial group, right, And and the

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Speaker 1: fact that we can't have a conversation about that, to me,

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Speaker 1: this is evidence of what's going on with Clark.

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Speaker 4: She's actually the minority here. She's the white girl in

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Speaker 4: a predominantly black league. She is the straight girl in

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Speaker 4: a predominantly lesbian league. He is the minority. The white

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Speaker 4: heterosexual girl is the minority, and the majority is ganging

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Speaker 4: up against her. And I think that story it blows

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Speaker 4: people's minds because they've we've been so conditioned for so

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Speaker 4: long to follow what I would say, Buck is the

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Speaker 4: TA Kill a Mockingbird storyline, great novel, go read it,

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Speaker 4: Harper Lee. But the idea is white woman is the liar,

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Speaker 4: black man is the victim. We've been so conditioned to

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Speaker 4: see that white racism against black which is a redress

532
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Speaker 4: for generations of racism. But if you are around our age,

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Speaker 4: if you grew up in the eighties, the nineties, the

534
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Speaker 4: early two thousands, I legitimately believe, if you're around forty

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Speaker 4: years old, you didn't grow up in a segregated South.

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Speaker 4: You didn't grow up in a Jim Crow America. Most

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Speaker 4: people born from nineteen eighty ish on have grown up

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Speaker 4: in a fairly egalitarian, equality drenched society. And what happened

539
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Speaker 4: post Obama was people said, oh, well, everything is not

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Speaker 4: a perfect reflection of the racial population in America. So

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Speaker 4: that must be because of racism. I just fundamentally reject that,

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Speaker 4: and so we moved from equality to equity. And I

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Speaker 4: think this Caitlin Clark connection is actually part of a

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Speaker 4: larger conversation that we should be having where she's getting

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Speaker 4: legitimately bullied and beaten up because of her race and

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Speaker 4: her gender.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can take race out of this and

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Speaker 1: sexual orientation out of this entirely. Because I watch I

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Speaker 1: have always played and watched tennis since I was very young,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm very familiar with tennis. There was a

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Speaker 1: time when Annakornicova was the highest paid female tennis player

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Speaker 1: in the world and I believe the highest paid female

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Speaker 1: athlete in the world. And I think around that time

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Speaker 1: she was ranked number like seventy for women's tennis.

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Speaker 4: I think she got up to like the top fifteen

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Speaker 4: in her career, best possible.

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Speaker 1: That was the highest ever class she was usually like

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Speaker 1: barely in the top Sea's.

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Speaker 4: Gorgeous for people who don't remember Anna Kornakova, which looks

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Speaker 4: like she looks like a swimsuit model, like you know

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Speaker 4: that was she's a model, yes, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and and you know she was making tens

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Speaker 1: of millions of dollars a year in endorsements. Now, I

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Speaker 1: understand that people could say, well, that's not fair. The

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Speaker 1: number one female tennis player in the world should be

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Speaker 1: making the most money. However, if you were to look

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Speaker 1: as a business at the increased attention, viewership, and sponsor

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Speaker 1: dollars into women's tennis, women's tennis now is really one.

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Speaker 2: Of the I think.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there is another sport quite like this,

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Speaker 1: you'd have to tell me. But in the biggest you know,

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Speaker 1: the US Open, for example, parody in the purse between

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Speaker 1: men's and women's. Yeah, you know, you could say, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's it.

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Speaker 4: I mean now they have more so in soccer now

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Speaker 4: because of the way they thought about it.

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Speaker 1: But that's just socialism though, Like people really do watch

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Speaker 1: women's tennis in huge number, Like the women's final at

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Speaker 1: the US Open is not something It's not like doubles,

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Speaker 1: which I feel sad, but like no one really watches doubles.

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Speaker 1: Serena was way more popular than any men's American tennis player.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Hundreds of millions of dollars, So I'm just saying there

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Speaker 1: are times when your sport, when your enterprise gets attention

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Speaker 1: and dollars that will benefit everybody. But a short sighted

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Speaker 1: more difficult. And I think that's what you're seeing in

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Speaker 1: the WNBA.

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Speaker 4: in a minute. I will mention Caitlin Clark's boyfriend liked

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Speaker 4: tweets saying that the girls basketball team needed an enforcer

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Speaker 4: to just start wrecking some of the girls who were

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Speaker 4: hitting and treating their treating his fiance his girlfriend unfairly.

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Speaker 4: And the funny thing to me to think about here

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Speaker 4: is if a dude pretending to be a girl decided

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Speaker 4: he wanted to be the enforcer. I mean, you just

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Speaker 4: put Dennis Rodman in a long wig, and I feel

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Speaker 4: like that dude could go out even at fifty five

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Speaker 4: or sixty whatever he is, and wreck some girls to

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Speaker 4: protect Caitlin Clark also be heroic. According to liberals Patty

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Speaker 4: in New Jersey, what you got for us?

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Speaker 10: It really bought about the fact that like women just

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Speaker 10: can't stick together with being women, Like we have to

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Speaker 10: like further seat to like divide this on race and whatever.

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Speaker 10: I mean, the girl is talented, no denying, she's a white,

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Speaker 10: straight woman. Can't we just like support her and just

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Speaker 10: you know, like can't just women unify like the whole,

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Speaker 10: like like making the division with race. It just it

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Speaker 10: annoys me.

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Speaker 4: And why do we think it's actually a good question, Patty?

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Speaker 4: Why do you think that doesn't happen in men's sports?

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Speaker 4: I can't think of I know, in hockey, like the

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Speaker 4: goal scorers get wrecked up and they're enforcers, but that's

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Speaker 4: kind of a part of the game. And why do

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Speaker 4: you think I can't think of a rookie who's come

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Speaker 4: into a male sport and been treated like this.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think it is?

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Speaker 10: Because it just doesn't happen. And you guys made a

646
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 10: good point before. It doesn't even happen in other women's sports,

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Speaker 10: like you know, and again that like you know, the

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Speaker 10: tide rising all boats like can't we just have this

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Speaker 10: here like it's just it's very frustrating. I think race

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Speaker 10: tends to get inserted in everything lately to divide everything,

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Speaker 10: and even with like the entertainment things like sports. You know,

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Speaker 10: it's it's really terrible that we just can't put this

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Speaker 10: aside and say that this girl is a is a

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Speaker 10: gifted athlete. She just happens to be a white woman,

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Speaker 10: you know, a straight girl playing you know, Okay, if

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Speaker 10: it's and it bothers me because you complain about not

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Speaker 10: being accepted as a minority black woman. You know, you're you're,

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Speaker 10: you're you're actually you are. It's it's racial to bringing

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Speaker 10: this against her like this. It is racism.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jordan, quickly here, you got like twenty seconds for us.

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Speaker 2: Jordan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if the one thing I think, well, all these

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Speaker 4: women don't like her that nobody's talking about.

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Speaker 2: She's hot compared to these other w NBA players.

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Speaker 1: Let's just be honest, she's really hot.

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Speaker 2: Compared to the average WNBA player. Thank you, Jordan.

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Speaker 4: This is like you and me be a good looking

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Speaker 4: for radio show host buck like the standard. I would

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Speaker 4: just say the average WNBA player is not a is

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Speaker 4: not a.

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Speaker 1: There was a radio host swimsuit calendar of dudes, of

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Speaker 1: dudes we might eke onto, like the extra month or something,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Radio hosts are not known

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Speaker 1: for the tabs.

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Speaker 4: I told Buck, when you go into a press box,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of ugly dudes in there being good

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Speaker 4: looking for a sports rider.

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Speaker 2: Ain't that high of a standard.