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Speaker 1: It's Sunday, March eighth, twenty twenty six. Welcome to Real

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Speaker 1: America's Voice News. This is Sunday.

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Speaker 2: They rode forward.

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Speaker 1: One week ago, the world woke up to the news

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Speaker 1: that Iran Supreme Leader Ali Kamani was dead killed in

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Speaker 1: a coordinated US Israeli strike that President Trump called Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury. It is the largest American military operation in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East since the two thousand and three invasion

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Speaker 1: of Iraq, and in the days since, we've watched this

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Speaker 1: conflict spiral across the region. Iranian missiles have struck American

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Speaker 1: bases from Jordan to Kuwait to Bahrain. Civilian airports in

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Speaker 1: the Gulf States have been hit. British bases in Cyprus

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Speaker 1: are also under attack, and American service members are in

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Speaker 1: harm's way across the Middle East. The stated goal is

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Speaker 1: to end the threat of the nuclear armed Islamic Republic

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Speaker 1: and to eliminate their terror network, fundamentally changing the threat

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Speaker 1: ira has posed in the Middle East for nearly fifty years.

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Speaker 1: The costs are great, no one denies that, and so

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Speaker 1: are the risks. So we must pray for our troops

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Speaker 1: and pray for the Trump administration to have wisdom throughout

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Speaker 1: this conflict. We want to see peace in that region.

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Speaker 1: But peace is never the absence of conflict. It is

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Speaker 1: the presence of real and lasting justice and total resolve.

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Speaker 1: Iran has never been confronted like they are right now.

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Speaker 1: Our scripture reading today comes from Proverbs twenty one, verse

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Speaker 1: thirty one. The horse is made ready for the day

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Speaker 1: of battle, but victory belongs to the Lord as always.

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Speaker 1: We want to be an encouragement to our viewers to

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Speaker 1: trust in the word of God, even in the midst

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Speaker 1: of global conflict, and to pray earnestly for our leaders,

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Speaker 1: our troops, and for peace. I'm Ryan Helfenbind filling in

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Speaker 1: for doctor Tim Clinton. I'll be your host today.

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Speaker 3: part of your life.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now is conservative political activist Ralph Reid. He's

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Speaker 1: the founder and chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition.

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Speaker 1: He's authored several best selling books, and his columns have

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Speaker 1: appeared in The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and

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Speaker 1: National Review, and many more. Ralph, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Great to see.

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Speaker 4: You you bear. Ryan, good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking at Operation Epic Fury. I was surprised.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have been to be woken on Saturday morning,

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Speaker 1: the eleventh day of the ninth month in the Islamic calendar,

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Speaker 1: that is Ramadan at nine to eleven, literally nine to eleven,

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Speaker 1: and US forces in partnership with Israel struck sites in Iran,

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Speaker 1: nine cities, hundreds of targets, strategic military targets, ballistic missile manufacturing,

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Speaker 1: uranium enrichment. There were a lot of different sites that

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Speaker 1: were hit. Explain, get us up to speed. What has

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Speaker 1: happened this week?

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Speaker 4: Well, I think this has been a long time in coming.

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Speaker 4: This goes all the way back to nineteen seventy nine,

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Speaker 4: before a lot of your viewers were born, when one

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Speaker 4: of the most ethical moments in recent history in the

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Speaker 4: last one hundred years occurred, and that was the Islamic

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Speaker 4: Revolution in Iran. The shaw was deposed and Ayatola Kamani

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Speaker 4: established a radical Islamic dictatorship with an objective of exporting

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Speaker 4: his version of radical Islamic, anti Semitic, anti Christian, anti

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Speaker 4: American notion of a caliphate throughout the Middle East, which

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Speaker 4: he intended to accomplish by exporting terrorism not just throughout

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Speaker 4: the Middle East, but let's be clear, throughout the entire world.

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Speaker 4: Has threatened the entire global economy by using one of

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Speaker 4: their terrorist proxies, the huthis to fire missiles on the

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Speaker 4: US Navy and on commercial vessels in the Mediterranean. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if most people know this, but Iran has

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Speaker 4: fired more missiles at US Navy vessels, and US naval

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Speaker 4: vessels have come under more fire in the last roughly

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Speaker 4: year and a half than they have since World War Two.

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Speaker 4: We know what they did through Hamas on October seventh,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, the worst attack on Israel in its history. Essentially,

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Speaker 4: they're nine to eleven. They were seeking to build a

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Speaker 4: nuclear weapon. After the attacks of last June, they were

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Speaker 4: actively reconstituting that nuclear program, and they were actively building

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Speaker 4: a ballistic missile program that already reached to every major

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Speaker 4: This is the bloodiest and the most dangerous regime in

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Speaker 4: the bloodiest and most dangerous region in the world. They

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Speaker 4: are the leading state sponsor of terrorism. They have killed

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Speaker 4: thousands of Americans and just to remind your viewers of

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Speaker 4: the history here, Ryan, when we went into Iraq in

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Speaker 4: two thousand and three, and I know that's not a

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Speaker 4: popular war today, and I get it, but just to

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Speaker 4: be clear, everybody was born at the time. Bush did

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Speaker 4: everything that they're criticizing Trump for not doing. He went

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Speaker 4: to Congress, he asked for authorization, he got it. John

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Speaker 4: Kerry voted for it, John Edwards voted for it. Dick Geppart,

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Speaker 4: the Democratic leader in the House, co sponsored it. Hillary

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Speaker 4: Clinton voted for it. Everybody was for it. But when

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Speaker 4: we went into Iraq, we thought we were deposing Saddam Hussein,

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Speaker 4: and once he was deposed, we found out we were

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Speaker 4: at war with Iran. And most of the American soldiers

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Speaker 4: who were maimed and killed were maimed and killed by

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Speaker 4: Sheite militias and by IED's essentially roadside bombs that were built, manufactured,

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Speaker 4: and imported into a Raq by Iran. And the only

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Speaker 4: issue here, Ryan, there's only one issue in this conflict,

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Speaker 4: and that is when was this going to happen? And

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Speaker 4: which president was going to have the guts and the

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Speaker 4: courage to do what was necessary to get rid of

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Speaker 4: this regime. It was only going to be a question

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Speaker 4: of if it was on our timing or on their timing,

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Speaker 4: or if it was before or after they had even

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Speaker 4: more ballistic missiles. You know, the total number of ballistic

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Speaker 4: missiles that they have is somewhat under debate, but it's

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Speaker 4: roughly around twenty thousand. They fired thousands at Israel. And

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Speaker 4: if you don't believe that our partnership with Israel, the

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Speaker 4: Abraham Accords, and a possibility of peace and stability in

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Speaker 4: the Middle East don't matter, then you shouldn't support this conflict.

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Speaker 4: But if you want to protect Israel, you want to

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Speaker 4: protect our national security interest not only in that region

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Speaker 4: but throughout the world, And you want to have peace

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Speaker 4: in the Middle East and have the Abraham Accords expanded,

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Speaker 4: and you don't want to have a regime life this

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Speaker 4: that chance death to America and calls Israel the little

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Speaker 4: Satan and us the big Satan. Then these guys have

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Speaker 4: to go. And I have never been prouder of President Trump.

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Speaker 4: This was not an easy decision. But to be perfectly

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Speaker 4: honest with you, Ryan, it was a decision that was

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Speaker 4: forced upon them. And I want to say one last thing,

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Speaker 4: and forgive me for going on so long, but you

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Speaker 4: know these people who say this was a war of choice.

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Speaker 4: It was only a war of choice. If you don't

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Speaker 4: believe that the oath that you swore on January twentieth

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Speaker 4: Bible and swore to uphold the Constitution and protect this

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Speaker 4: that oath matters, then yeah, this was a war of choice.

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Speaker 4: But if that oath means something to you, then you

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Speaker 4: really didn't have any choice. It was only going to

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Speaker 4: be a question of when and how this regime had

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Speaker 1: Well said, I think it's really important that people understand

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Speaker 1: the breakdown of this history. Look the Shia population in

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Speaker 1: the Islamic world, it's very radical. It's about ten to

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent of that population living in Persia. There was

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Speaker 1: in leading up to the revolution of nineteen seventy nine,

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Speaker 1: the Green Red Alliance, this communist agitators, there were those

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Speaker 1: students in colleges and universities that were begging for the

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Speaker 2: All hell broke loose.

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Speaker 1: They got their Islamic Republic, they got the very thing

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Speaker 1: that they begged for, and as a result, we've had

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Speaker 1: forty seven years of terror and it's being exported around

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Speaker 1: the world. Tell us just a little bit, though, also

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Speaker 1: recognize not only Iran's danger direct danger, but indirectly and

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Speaker 1: it's partnership with other nations.

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Speaker 4: Well, let me answer that this way by relating an anecdote.

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Speaker 4: I can't place when it was, but it would have

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Speaker 4: been in the first two years of the first Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: I happened to be at the White House. I can't

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Speaker 4: remember the context, but I was in the Oval Office

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Speaker 4: group of us, and I will never forget him saying this.

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Speaker 4: I've never forgotten it. He said when I went in

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Speaker 4: after I became president for my first full dress national

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Speaker 4: and covering every hot spot, every conflict, every exposure, every risk,

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Speaker 4: every bad actor. And he said, after they got done,

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Speaker 4: every single one of those threats could be traced back

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Speaker 4: to Iran, every single one. That's the answer. And it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter whether it's China, which is threatening Taiwan and

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Speaker 4: jung'an in North Korea who's sponsored by China. China was

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Speaker 4: getting fifteen to twenty percent of its oil from Iran

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Speaker 4: at a discount, sanctioned oil oil that we were trying

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Speaker 4: China arguably, I mean, it doesn't really matter because it

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Speaker 4: kind of depends on which day it is, whether it's Russia, China,

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Speaker 4: bad actors, and you know they were all working in concert.

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Speaker 4: And if you can rob China bad oil, you put

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Speaker 4: a tremendous amount of stress on China, and this sends

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Speaker 4: a very I'm not saying this is why you do it.

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Speaker 4: You do it for the reasons I've already indicated. Right

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Speaker 4: this was a regime that, if it was allowed to persist,

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Speaker 4: Look at what they're doing right now, Ryan, They're firing

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Speaker 4: missiles into moderate Arab states that have made peace with us,

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Speaker 4: and eventually they would have been able to threaten us.

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Speaker 4: We simply cannot allow that to happen. You cannot have

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Speaker 4: nutjobs who are radical Islamis who have an insane their

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Speaker 4: philosophy is literally insanity, and they believe that they are

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Speaker 4: going to establish an Alama Islamic caliphate. They believe they're

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Speaker 4: going to destroy Israel and wipe it off the map.

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Speaker 4: They wanted to go to war with Us, and they

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Speaker 4: wanted to do it with nuclear weapons. That is not

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Speaker 4: a world that we can live in. And I will

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Speaker 4: just say that when you contrast the President having the

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Speaker 4: courage to take this step and do so with our

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Speaker 4: Israeli partners, you look at the extraordinary intelligence that that

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Speaker 4: I assume Masad, but I don't know who had it

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Speaker 4: that we knew there was a high level meeting in

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Speaker 4: the Ayatola Kameenees compound and took him out in the

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Speaker 4: opening hour of this conflict. You know, there was a

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Speaker 4: meme going around on Instagram. You know, it said it

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Speaker 4: took nine months to find Saddam Hussein, It took nine

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Speaker 4: years to find Asama bin Laden. It took nine minutes

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Speaker 4: to find the Ayahtola, This commander in chief, this Department

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Speaker 4: of War under Pete Hegseth, the Joint Chiefs under General

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Speaker 4: Raisin Kane. This is the most lethal, the most effective

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Speaker 4: and I believe the country will rally behind the president

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Speaker 4: because now that we're in, whether you thought we should

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Speaker 4: have gone in or not, our troops are in harm's

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Speaker 2: Great to see you, always good to see you. Ryan.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I you know this week, I've noticed that you

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Speaker 6: And at TPSA Faith, we have the opportunity to work

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Speaker 6: their reputation some way to leverage an agenda or to

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Speaker 6: push some sort of idea. And there's people obviously that

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Speaker 6: are out there that are doing that, and I think that,

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Speaker 6: you know, look, the facts speak for themselves. Erica has

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Speaker 6: has confirmed this. Father Klein has confirmed that Charlie was

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Speaker 6: not Catholic. Charlie's own words confirmed that he was not Catholic.

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Speaker 6: And again that's not that there's anything you know, you know,

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Speaker 6: it's not that the detail matters, even as much as

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Speaker 6: we don't want to see people try to twist somebody's

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Speaker 6: words to use them in a way, you know, after

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Speaker 6: their passing.

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Speaker 2: And so Charlie Kirk was a great man. He was

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Speaker 2: a follower of Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 6: He was a martyr, and I believe that's something that

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Speaker 6: Catholics and Protestants could celebrate alike, you know, as we

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Speaker 6: seek to find unity in the faith.

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Speaker 1: Amen, I want just a plug put a plug in

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Speaker 1: for this because I think it's really important to recognize

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Speaker 1: what turning point faith is doing right now. In twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, it's a midterm election year. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people are thinking about what's happening over the next nine months.

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Speaker 1: You guys are going city to city, coast to coast,

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Speaker 1: Make Heaven Crowded. You want to talk a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit about that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a tour that arose out of the

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Speaker 6: really the groundswell of revivalistic activity and awakening that happened

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Speaker 6: after Charlie's Memorial. And we originally were going to do

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Speaker 6: just a single, one big event for TPSA Faith in

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Speaker 6: twenty twenty six, and after the memorial, we realized that

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Speaker 6: we were thinking too small and that we really needed

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Speaker 6: to look for opportunities to kind of take the spirit

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Speaker 6: of what happened at the memorial across the country. And

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Speaker 6: so out of that was born this Make Heaven Crowded

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Speaker 6: Tour and we started off in California. We had fifty

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Speaker 6: five hundred people at the first one, three hundred salvations.

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Speaker 6: We have I think three or four of these now

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Speaker 6: under our belt. We're going to be. Our next big

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Speaker 6: one is at our mutual friend, Pastor Jack Graham's church,

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Speaker 6: Preston Wood Baptist. That's gonna be April twenty ninth there

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Speaker 6: in the Dallas Fort Worth area, and we just cannot

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Speaker 6: wait to be down there. It's going to be an

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Speaker 6: absolute incredible time. We're expecting upwards of ten thousand plus

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Speaker 6: people at this Erica is going to be there, myself,

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Speaker 6: Pastor Jack Graham, Alibeth Stucky, and a few other surprise

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Speaker 6: guests as well, still to be added, and it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be a big events and just an opportunity just to

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Speaker 6: share this message, the good news of Jesus Christ, to

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Speaker 6: help steward this moment that we're in. We don't want

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Speaker 6: Charlie's death to be in vain. We want to see

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Speaker 6: people come to Jesus and for just the testimony of

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Speaker 6: the Gospel to go around not only this nation, but

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Speaker 6: around the globe.

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Speaker 1: Just in the final moments. Pastor, I know that you,

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Speaker 1: pastor locally, you have a church there in Indiana. How

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Speaker 1: are you counseling them how to think more biblically about politics?

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Speaker 1: How do you do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: So, first off, I believe it's every pastor's job to

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Speaker 6: preach the full counsel of the Word of God and

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Speaker 6: to help people to think biblically in the boardroom, in

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Speaker 6: the bedroom, and at the ballot box. And if pastors

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Speaker 6: are not doing that, or the church you're attending is

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Speaker 6: not providing you that kind of bold information about these

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Speaker 6: issues of you know, sexuality and marriage and sanctity of

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Speaker 6: life and how to think through you know, different policies

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Speaker 6: and moral you know, ethical issues, then I believe that

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Speaker 6: you know, it might be worth considering looking for a

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Speaker 6: new church, or at least talking to your pastor about

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Speaker 6: why they're not being more expressive and bold about these things.

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Speaker 6: We have a whole bunch of churches listed at TPUSA

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Speaker 6: faith dot com. You can find a map there of

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Speaker 6: a church near you that might be a good fit

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Speaker 6: for you, you know, in this process, or you can

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Speaker 6: ask your church why they're not on the map, and

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Speaker 6: we'd love to add them if they're willing to be

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Speaker 6: bold from the pulpit for Jesus Christ and the full

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Speaker 6: message of the faith. We have a lot of people

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Speaker 6: at our church that have come in they're seeking the

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Speaker 6: Lord and they, you know, if we're calling Jesus Christ

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Speaker 6: the Lord of our life, then we should be, you know,

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Speaker 6: with that submissive in every single area of our life,

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Speaker 6: and that includes our politic. How we read the Bible

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Speaker 2: I just first of all, all.

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Speaker 1: Eyes on this in this nation right now are Operation

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Speaker 1: Epic Fury. The President made an announcement this week, and

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Speaker 1: certainly we're getting briefings and news briefings from Secretary Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 1: from Secretary Pete hegseeth. We already have some service members

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Speaker 1: that have been killed in action. But just your overview,

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Speaker 1: how you're taking this in as a mother, as a grandmother.

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Speaker 1: There are some people certainly calling into question, Wow, I

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Speaker 1: didn't really think that the president would involve the United

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Speaker 1: States in a war on this epic kind of scale.

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Speaker 1: How are you assessing this in taking it all in?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's funny when people say I just

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Speaker 7: can't believe that President Trump would do that, But then

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Speaker 7: you don't know President Trump. There are videos of him

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Speaker 7: from twenty years ago talking about this and talking about

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Speaker 7: the Iatolis and how we can't be pushed around by Iran.

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Speaker 7: He campaigned on change in the Middle East. He campaigned

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Speaker 7: on making a change from the regime in Iran, which

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Speaker 7: has brutalized its own people now for generations. And President

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Speaker 7: Trump is the only president in the last fifty years

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Speaker 7: who's had the guts to actually do what needs to

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Speaker 7: be done. We desperately need regime change in the Middle East,

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Speaker 7: and it matters, it should matter to Americans. All these

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Speaker 7: people that say that they're America First, but they don't

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Speaker 7: want us to participate in anything that happens in the

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Speaker 7: Middle East do not understand that we do not exist

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Speaker 7: in a vacuum, and what happens in the Middle East

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Speaker 7: affects what happens here at home. And it's to me,

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Speaker 7: it's a lack of understanding. You know, I'm well enough

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Speaker 7: to remember. I'm sure you are too, the Iran hostage crisis.

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Speaker 7: You know, we remember all this stuff. And I remember

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Speaker 7: when being America first meant that we cared about what

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Speaker 7: was going on in other parts of the country, and

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Speaker 7: we were a shining city on a hill. And President Trump,

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Speaker 7: god bless him, is bringing that back. He's doing what

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Speaker 7: Obama didn't have the courage. Obama paid off the Iranians.

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Speaker 7: Everybody seems to forget that Obama paid them off. Biden

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Speaker 7: slept through the whole thing, and Clinton was a disaster.

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Speaker 7: Carter started this, Reagan tried to help, it really didn't

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Speaker 7: do what needed to be done. And now all these

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Speaker 7: years later, President Trump is actually on I see it

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Speaker 7: as a rescue mission over there. I thank God for

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Speaker 7: what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it's important you go back in history,

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Speaker 1: and you're absolutely right. You look at the weakness of

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Speaker 1: President Jimmy Carter that was on display back in the

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Speaker 1: late seventies. A hostage crisis that lasted four hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty four days ended the moment that President Reagan took

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Speaker 1: the oath of office. The same day hostages were finally released,

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Speaker 1: over fifty hostages. The United States was shamed, was embarrassed

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Speaker 1: by the Ayatola. There was no resolve for what to do.

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Speaker 1: Carter had no idea how to actually lead diplomatically. You

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Speaker 1: fast forward, you know, in two thousand and three the

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Speaker 1: United States, and it was pretty much a unanimous vote

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Speaker 1: in the Senate, Democrats and Republicans supported Operation Iraqi Freedom.

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Speaker 1: Everybody in the rear view, of course, second guests is

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Speaker 1: believed that weapons of mass destruction were in Iraq. But

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Speaker 1: we were always fighting a proxy war with Iran. Even

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Speaker 1: when we were in Iraq, we were engaged with a

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Speaker 1: military paramilitary force, many of them trained and funded by

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Speaker 1: the Iranian government, And so we've never actually directly confronted

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Speaker 1: them until now. And it's fascinating to see this. But

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Speaker 1: President Trump is the only one who had the courage

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Speaker 1: to do it. Obama tried to pay them off with

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Speaker 1: palettes of cash. Biden released over one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: billion dollars, and Iran was able to accelerate their nuclear ambitions,

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Speaker 1: building more trying to develop ballistic missiles. And this is

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Speaker 1: something Heidi that many people don't recognize that it was

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Speaker 1: not until twenty twenty five that the Iran nuclear deal

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Speaker 1: deal was nol and void in twenty twenty five. It

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Speaker 1: had a sunset, and the sunset expired in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Most Americans and the American media didn't do their job

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Speaker 1: and reporting on this. But Obama never had a permanent

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Speaker 1: measure in place. It was only ever temporary, and he

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Speaker 1: spent a ton of American money on that project and

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Speaker 1: it totally failed. Now we have a president leading. How

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Speaker 1: do you see President Trump? You know, in terms of

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Speaker 1: and I think this is important going into the midterm elections.

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Speaker 1: What consequence do you think this is a bear out

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the electorate.

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Speaker 7: Well, I think it's up for grabs right now. We

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Speaker 7: need to wait and see what happens. I think it's

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Speaker 7: too soon to say how this is going to affect

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Speaker 7: the midterms. Americans apparently have a really short memory. We've

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Speaker 7: got a lot of people in the so called America

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Speaker 7: First movement who I think are doing a very good

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Speaker 7: job of dividing the conservative movement. This is the thing

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Speaker 7: that worries me the most. The Democrats are going to

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Speaker 7: throw everything they have at President Trump to make sure

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Speaker 7: that he loses, at the very least the House. I

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Speaker 7: think he's got a good shot at losing the House

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Speaker 7: right now, less of a shot at losing the Senate.

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Speaker 7: That seems a little bit more secure to me. But

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Speaker 7: the House is up for grabs for sure, and really

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Speaker 7: the Democrats only need to get one of those right now.

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Speaker 7: President Trump has a trifecta right because he's got the

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Speaker 7: executive branch, and really the judiciary is mostly conservative, although

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Speaker 7: cowardly conservative, but mostly conservative. And then he's got the

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Speaker 7: House in the Senate. It's very, very important that Christians,

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Speaker 7: especially that God's people show up for the mid terms.

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Speaker 7: You can't say it strong enough. We lost the last

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Speaker 7: election here in Washington State because one point two million

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Speaker 7: self identified Christians did not vote. We didn't lose by

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Speaker 7: one point two million. We lost by about ten to

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Speaker 7: fifteen thousand in some of these issues. And if Christians

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Speaker 7: would just show up, we wouldn't just win, we'd win

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Speaker 7: in a landslide. And that is true virtually everywhere in

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Speaker 7: the country right now. People need to turn out. And

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Speaker 7: I think part of what you're seeing happening right now,

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Speaker 7: especially with Operation Epic Fury and some of the other

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Speaker 7: things that are happening, the Democrats are using it, and

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Speaker 7: the isolationists like Tucker Carlson and now apparently Matt Walsh's

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Speaker 7: turning into an isolationist. These people are actually splitting the

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Speaker 7: conservative movement ahead of the midterms. I saw a really

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Speaker 7: shocking statement from will Wit the other day. Some of

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Speaker 7: these people that I have been watching kind of changing

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Speaker 7: their opinions based on influencers on X. These guys are

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Speaker 7: not in the situation room, and a lot of them

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Speaker 7: have no idea what foreign policy actually means and how

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Speaker 7: it affects the United States. And yet these influencers are

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Speaker 7: influencing people to not show up to vote, to be

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Speaker 7: more angry about the Epstein files than they are about

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Speaker 7: what's happening in the Middle East. And we can walk

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Speaker 7: into gum at the same time, we can still be

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Speaker 7: angry about Epstein Island and all the things that have

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Speaker 7: happened there and still care about what's going on in

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Speaker 7: the Middle East. And so I think we need to

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Speaker 7: be really careful. The main thing to me right now

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Speaker 7: We need unity. We do not need uniformity, but we

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Speaker 7: do need unity. You can't win elections without unity. We've

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Speaker 7: got to be united. That's why I think it really

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Speaker 7: matters how this thing plays out on the world stage.

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Speaker 7: But I mean, we just saw a parade on the

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Speaker 7: streets of Los Angeles the other day, thousands and thousands

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Speaker 7: and thousands of people turning out in support of President Trump,

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Speaker 7: people who have been praying for the peace and security

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Speaker 7: and safety and Iran for generations are praising him. I

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Speaker 7: think you're going to see more and more of that

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Speaker 7: if the mainstream media will allow it, and I think

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Speaker 7: that will also shape public opinion.

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Speaker 1: I want to turn. I agree with you. I want

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Speaker 1: to turn to some of the domestic issues here in

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Speaker 1: the United States, especially when it comes to education, which

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Speaker 1: I know is near and dear to your heart. It

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Speaker 1: looks like many of the failed policies. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: know President Trump had several executive orders when he came

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Speaker 1: into office just a year ago eliminating CRT and DEI

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Speaker 1: and much of the trans policy when it comes to government.

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Speaker 1: But we have several states California, your home state, in Washington, Colorado, Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: who have foisted this nightmare of woke ideology and trans

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Speaker 1: ideology on Christian parents and on unsuspecting children who are

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Speaker 1: not at a place in life where they can make

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Speaker 1: life altering decisions when it comes to their body. Tell

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Speaker 1: us a little bit about the front that you have

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Speaker 1: right now in Washington, some of the bills that you

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Speaker 1: have been raising public awareness on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's really important for people who are listening,

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Speaker 7: who live in leftist run states like Oregon, Washington, California, Virginia.

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Speaker 7: Sadly now comes to mind if you guys see bills

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Speaker 7: they see an opportunity to pass these bills into law.

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Speaker 7: If you see that happening, the only way to kill

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Speaker 7: a bill in a leftist run state is to kill

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Speaker 7: it in committee. We had a bill come up here

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Speaker 7: recently that was being pushed by Chris Reichdall, who's the

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Speaker 7: head of the Department of Education here. He wanted to

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Speaker 7: roll back the age the compulsory education here. Right now,

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Speaker 7: it's the age of eight, so, in other words, we

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Speaker 7: eight years old. He wanted to roll that back to

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Speaker 7: truancy if by the age of six and they planned

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Speaker 7: a homeschool they did not submit a scope in sequence

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Speaker 7: to the state of Washington for its approval. Well, I

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Speaker 7: got news for you. Most people are having a hard

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Speaker 7: time getting their six year out of bed to brush

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Speaker 7: his teeth in the morning. The last thing they're thinking

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Speaker 7: about is a scope and sequence, And the last people

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Speaker 7: they should have to report to are the public school

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Speaker 7: officials in Washington State. So we raised the alarm about this.

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Speaker 7: I drove up very early in the morning to Olympia

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Speaker 7: to testify about it. The other thing is about these

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Speaker 7: bills is typically they'll only give you between twenty four

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Speaker 7: and seventy two hours notice, so you'll hear about it

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Speaker 7: and you'll have very little time to respond. I think

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Speaker 7: that the reason they do that is, well, there's lots

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Speaker 7: of reasons, but one of them is just to wear

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Speaker 7: people out. You know, those of us that are driving

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Speaker 7: up to our state capitals and testifying. We got jobs, dude,

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Speaker 7: we got lives. We're trying to do things, and now

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Speaker 7: I got a call in to work. I can't go

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Speaker 7: in and record my show at the studio. I've got

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Speaker 7: to grab people to go up there with me. Take

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Speaker 7: my assistant out of her normal job and drag her

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Speaker 7: up to Olympia. My husband's coming up there. And they

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Speaker 7: do this over and over and over again, and we

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Speaker 7: just can't give up. Because the Left will not sleep

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Speaker 7: on this shar They will not stop. We have to

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Speaker 7: look at it like a wartime mentality. And by the

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Speaker 7: grace of God, my friend TJ. Schmidt, who flew in

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Speaker 7: from Virginia, he is an attorney with HSLDA.

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Speaker 4: TJ.

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Speaker 7: Schmidt and I were the last two people called to testify.

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Speaker 7: So the last voice these crazy lunatic lawmakers had in

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Speaker 7: their heads was Heidi Saint John's voice that day, and

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Speaker 7: I told him very plainly, everything in Washington State is

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Speaker 7: broken right now. You're taxing us into oblivion. Our schools

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Speaker 7: are a mess, our kids don't know what a woman is.

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Speaker 7: We're paying to stage walkouts against ice at our public schools.

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Speaker 7: And the one thing that's working is homeschooling. And you

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Speaker 7: guys want to break it. Leave it alone, Leave it alone.

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Speaker 7: And they killed the bill and committee. By the grace

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Speaker 7: of God, if that had gone to the floor, I

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Speaker 7: guarantee you we would have lost. I also went down

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Speaker 7: with my friend pastor Jack kids a Sacramento to protest

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Speaker 7: a bill that ultimately they did pass down there because

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Speaker 7: Gavin Newsom doesn't give you a wit about what Californians

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Speaker 7: actually think that I think is going to be contested.

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Speaker 7: I just heard from you in the Supreme Court, which

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Speaker 7: is as news, but it's a really good reminder to

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Speaker 7: conservatives you cannot stay home. We have gotten into this

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Speaker 7: position because conservatives, I think is a general rule the

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Speaker 7: Republican Party. They want to go to work, they want

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Speaker 7: to raise their families, they want to just live their lives.

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Speaker 7: And that is not what the left wants us, wants

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Speaker 7: us to be able to do. And so we have

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Speaker 7: to adopt a mentality of being engaged and being involved

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Speaker 7: and being willing to have our lives interrupted for the

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Speaker 7: sake of our freedom. That's what needs to happen. We

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Speaker 7: see these wins very infrequently in places like Washington State,

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Speaker 7: so it was encouraging to see that we've lost our

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Speaker 7: rights here. We passed a parental bill of rights in

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Speaker 7: Washington State two years ago, worked very hard to get

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Speaker 7: that on the ballot. Overwhelming numbers turned out to get

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Speaker 7: that on the ballot, and as soon as the legislation

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Speaker 7: was in session, they gutted the bill. They absolutely gutted it.

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Speaker 7: Took out every provision that would protect children against trans ideology.

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Speaker 7: Here in the Pacific Northwest. The public education system in

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Speaker 7: our nation ryan is a five alarm fire. It is

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Speaker 7: a five alarm fire. It will not matter if in

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Speaker 7: a few years from now, we have another decent election,

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Speaker 7: or let's say JD. Vance succeeds President Trump as the

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Speaker 7: president of the United States. And then let me tell

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Speaker 7: you why we are turning out by the hundreds of

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Speaker 7: thousands every June, every May in June, out of our

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Speaker 7: public school system, out of our high schools. Kids who

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Speaker 7: have been radically indoctrinated into leftist ideology. They think we're

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Speaker 7: living on stolen land. They don't understand what a woman is.

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Speaker 7: They would absolutely march for the rights of men to

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Speaker 7: invade women's spaces in locker rooms and sports because they've

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Speaker 7: been indoctrinated into this ideology from the time they're five

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Speaker 7: years old until the time they're eighteen years old and

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Speaker 7: graduate into the voting pool. At this point, it is

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Speaker 7: simply a math game, and we will be outnumbered if

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Speaker 7: parents don't wake up to what's happening and take their

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Speaker 7: kids out of the public education system. You can't change

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Speaker 7: what's happening in the public school system. It is baked

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Speaker 7: into the cake. The NEA pushes this radical ideaology and

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Speaker 7: and tell parents wake up and take their kids out

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Speaker 7: of the system, either homeschool them or find alternative forms

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Speaker 7: of education. I think our country ultimately will be lost

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Speaker 7: to leftist ideology because of what's happening in our school system.

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Speaker 2: Heidi.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: so much a faith that speaks folks. Stick around. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back after this commercial break with final thoughts.

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Speaker 3: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 3: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a

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Speaker 1: As we close today, I want to leave you with

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Speaker 1: these words from Martin Luther. I've held many things in

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Speaker 1: my hands, and I have lost them all. But whatever

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Speaker 1: I have placed in God's hands that I still possess.

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Speaker 1: We are one week into a war whose end is uncertain.

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Speaker 1: American troops and Americans are deployed to a war zone.

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Speaker 1: Missiles are flying across the Middle East, and the stakes

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Speaker 1: couldn't be higher. And the temptation is to either panic

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Speaker 1: or to pretend. Panic gives in to fear while pretending

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Speaker 1: avoids reality Altogether. Luther reminds us the things we try

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Speaker 1: to control always slip from our grasps, but what we

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Speaker 1: entrust to God always always remain secure. So let's be

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Speaker 1: a people committed to prayer. Pray for Trump, Pray for

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Speaker 1: Secretary Pete Hegseth, Vice President Vance and Secretary Marco Rubio,

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Speaker 1: and all our service members in Harms Way. Pray for

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Speaker 1: the Israelis who are enduring rocket fire, along with our

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Speaker 1: advanced military bases in neighboring countries. Pray for the Iranian

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Speaker 1: people and pray for peace that only the Principiece can bring.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, God bless you

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Speaker 3: Ah home.