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Speaker 1: H you have you have been on the show enough

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Speaker 1: like that. Dove is I've never seen anthing like Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Jimmy Doran's here then, uh Janice Poodles. Uh. We

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Speaker 1: also learned some Washington state driver's license trivia. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: oh Tony like really got the You were right there

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Speaker 1: Well one, Now, your driver's license isn't horridor. Your driver's

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Speaker 1: Next you'll tell me what you and then Tony COLAGROSSI

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Speaker 1: Everybody's been laughing at me. If you're saying you're going

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Speaker 1: And I'll freeze them like that, and I have some

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Speaker 1: showder because it doesn't like hide your clam in a

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00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: white pasty glue. Yeah, I mean, because like you want

426
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: through all the trouble to dig the things up right.

427
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: You want to like you want to look intore and

428
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: be like, well, there's the clams. Yeah. So that's why

429
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: I like like the Red Manhattan showder I enjoy razor

430
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 1: clams so much just eating him, like you said, fried

431
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: in really anyway. But I felt like it was almost

432
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: a waste to make chowder out of him. Yeah, well

433
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: my wife like chowder. Yeah, no, I do too, but

434
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: it's like there's other claims and then take the chew

435
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: and make the cher I never thought of that. That's

436
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: a good idea. How do you cold smoke it? What

437
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: do you mean? You know he doesn't. I'm assuming he

438
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: brindes them up, but I remember him bringing him out

439
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: on fishing trips and whatnot, and they were just these big, beautiful,

440
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: smoked up razor clams, you know, that were just intact,

441
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: you know, not cut up into strips or anything. And

442
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: they were nice, man. No, not as strong as an oyster,

443
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, more like they still they retain their flavor,

444
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, but there they were good. They were really good. Yeah.

445
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: All the razor clams that have Doug have all been

446
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: on the same couple of beaches out here. What I

447
00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: used to think with the Peninsula and that man hanging

448
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: out in the Harvard this whole time, Yeah, kind of

449
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go around to my neighbors who I bring

450
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 1: clams to coast. I'm gonna go and say, hey, man,

451
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: you know what. You know how I told you where

452
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: I got those, It's not where I got them. They've

453
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: probably been driving up and down the Olympic Peninsula looking

454
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: for a beach and all I can find is the oysters.

455
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: I've only been to the one. Is it. I always

456
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: call it mo Rocks, but I'm sounding Clips Clips. The

457
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: town is mo Clips, the beach and beach. So when

458
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: you're checking the clam tides, and yeah, you go in

459
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: the rocks. If you type in like like razor clam,

460
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: you're going to You're going to Google and type razor

461
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: clam season or whatever. It just takes you to that

462
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: page or tells you what's coming up, and it'll be

463
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: like the breakdowns are simple. All the different beaches, the

464
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: days are open. And we went out there one time,

465
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: me and my wife and our three kids came out

466
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,719
Speaker 1: to hit a clam tide and stayed in that Ocean

467
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: Shores hotel. And it's a big place, and I'm telling

468
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: you what, like about two hours for lower tide, every

469
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: hotel door opens up and people walk out of their

470
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: hotel rooms and hit Boots to be a cleaning person

471
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: at that hotel would be hell. Yeah, that wouldn't be

472
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: a party because the amount of mud and sand. And

473
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: then everyone goes down and it's like this giant tailgate party.

474
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: That's the kind of tailgate. And I could get involved

475
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: in people sitting around on the tailgates drinking beer is

476
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: getting ready to or having just dug up clas Like

477
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: I said, man, it makes you like really happy to

478
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: be American to go clam digging, especially if it's like

479
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: it is now and in Washington beaches you can drive

480
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: on the beach, so it's nice like Oregon tons, but

481
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: you can't got to pack in. But that's the thing

482
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: to make it. That's kind of a that's a good

483
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: point because like it seems like a low tide that

484
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: waters out there a mile and then you got a

485
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: park in a parking lot or a little roundabout somewheres

486
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: across the dune, and then you got another mile to

487
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: go with kids, you know, and the kids love it

488
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: driving up down the beach. Yeah, I love it. I

489
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: love it. And your part, Yeah, it's like a Walmart

490
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: parking lot that never ends. If everyone from the ten

491
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: Walmart's all had to park in the line down the beach.

492
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: It's the only time I'm glad to see other people

493
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: out doing what I'm doing normally, like someone else got

494
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: here first. Yeah, but there it's like, oh yeah, man,

495
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: I wonder why that is. You're right, I feel that

496
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: way too. Well, there's plenty to go around. Yeah, it's

497
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: just so much room. So Jimmy, you go a fair bit.

498
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: I've been a few times, but I've only been to

499
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: the one beach that I've been mispronouncing now for several years.

500
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: We don't feel too I called it mow Rocks, but

501
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: it's not mow Rocks. It's so anyways. They're on the

502
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: Fishing Game website. It'll it's really pretty clear and easy

503
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: to navigate and get through, and they tell you when

504
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be open. Well, it's the only rag.

505
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: It's the only rag in the world. It's easy. Yeah,

506
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: it seemed pretty simple and it's it's very user friendly

507
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: that part of the red. Yeah. If you don't like

508
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: to dig raised claims, you can suck it. Man. It's

509
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: like it's just like just like the funnest thing in

510
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: the world. Second qualifying questions, Yeah, no, I hate it.

511
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: It's a lot anything not gonna be your friends. And

512
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: he used to go to the beach. Yeah. Then the

513
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: second thing I got into was surf perch. And then

514
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: you're Tommy Edson. You're the first guy met that was

515
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: like really self identified as a surf perch like fish

516
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: surf perch man. I always have like these guys. For

517
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: the guys that work with like your honest, I would

518
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: just say my surf perch mentor oh, and they would

519
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: know who I was talking about. It was just always

520
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: something to do when you were at the coast, either

521
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: digging clams or you know, we'd run out to the coast,

522
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: like me and Tony discussed yesterday, we'd run out the

523
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: coast fishing salmon or steelhead and all the rivers are punishable.

524
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do. We're gonna go catch a boat.

525
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: We're gonna go catch cooler full of the surf perch

526
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: firs go fish surf perch or that. That's kind of

527
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: what we do. And then I discovered the combo because

528
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: surf perch open years season fifteen surf perch to day

529
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: and it's they're always there. Yeah, Like I've never had

530
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: a day where I yesterday was. Yesterday was pretty sucky

531
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: when I thought it, but I thought it was below par.

532
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: It was below part. It was below of what I expected,

533
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: but it wasn't poor by any means. We came out,

534
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: We came out and surf perched on Christmas Eve something

535
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: like that, No, and I thought that would be no

536
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: December December, and I thought we'd come out and it

537
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: would just be like llaciously nasty, which I did too.

538
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: It was cold, I remember that. But walked out there,

539
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: that cold, windy and you walk out and it's like

540
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the most like unforgiving atmosphere where it's just like pounding surf,

541
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: salt spray cold, and you're like why and what self

542
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: respecting fish would possibly be and that churning froth and

543
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: you go down there and hook out um gulp saying

544
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: what gulp sand worm? Or I was I threw some.

545
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: I threw some razor clam next that morning, I was saying,

546
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: I think razor clams were good with bait like that,

547
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: as you end up getting crabs too, and the crabs

548
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: will just pick at your stuff because you do pull

549
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: you do crabs. The gulfs work really will. But to

550
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: flick out into that churning, god forsaken froth and fish. Yep, yeah,

551
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: that's how the knocking on the door. Yeah, yep. The

552
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: big ones are just like a little miniature takedown in

553
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: your hand. They just kind of hit it and don't

554
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, they grab it, turn its went away. I

555
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: got um the bait. I've only ever used one thing

556
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: for bait because it stays on you. And I've experienced

557
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: with all kinds of stuff. What's the bag? Say, what

558
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: do you mean on a gold sand word? What's the bag? Fishes,

559
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: everything else that wishes, live baits, fishes, all other baits Bayeah, yeah,

560
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: they're good and they're durable fishes, all other bait. Well,

561
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: clearly this is the bait for me. You can, you

562
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 1: can seriously go spend a very minimal amount of money

563
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: on bait and tackle and have enough to get through

564
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 1: the entire day of surf perch fishing. It's not snaggy.

565
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: You're not gonna donate a bunch of gears. No, But

566
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'll tell you. What does happen

567
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: is you know, when you're uh squid jigging, I'll lock

568
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: my line off because like, oh, on your reel yeah,

569
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: we'll check this out. So you squid jacken and you

570
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: lock your line off, and uh so that way, when

571
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: you open your bail, your squid jake drops too, like

572
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: inches above the bottom when you're off appier because the

573
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: minute it hits the botmyb're gonna snag. Would I imagine

574
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: to be a carpet of other squid jigs that are

575
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: I think there's one rock and then adventure that rock

576
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: grows into a carpet of squidg It's just a coral

577
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 1: reef of squid, and so you can't touch the bottom.

578
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: So I lock all my reels off, especially with my kids.

579
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: So you just open the bail and when the line stops,

580
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: the line stops where it's supposed to stop, and it's

581
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: safe to start your stroke there. Well, it was squid

582
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: jigging season, and so I rig everybody up. Um, I

583
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: rig everybody up. You know, you have two ounces of lead,

584
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: one ounce of lead on your surf. Perro and me

585
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: my two brothers kind of spread out, you know, I

586
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: walk one way, they walk their way, and one goes

587
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: down below, and in no time we're all back up

588
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 1: re rigging. Because the minute you fire that, you fired

589
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: out lead and comes up against that lock off. All

590
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: that stuff just keeps going. And they had to me

591
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: twice yesterday. Man, I did one cast. Yeah, I did

592
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: one cast where my my braid was knotted up by

593
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: my spool re rigged came out into our cast. One

594
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: of those ones where you accidentally were somehow it hooks

595
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: onto something like close your bail up and sent my

596
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: rig off into the outer space it arrived in Japan.

597
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: I used to do that to a lot of giant

598
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: nightcrawlers and then my granddad would fuss at me, what

599
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: do you mean because it would just be out pan fishing,

600
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, and instead of clipping off an inch or

601
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: two or whatever you need, and you know, on a

602
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: small like size six hook, I put on like a

603
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: eight ten yeah night color, you know, and as a kid,

604
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: probably didn't weave it on there properly. And then my

605
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: hook would go about eight feet and that night the

606
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: nightclor lands out on my zone. Yeah. That's a big

607
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: kid thing. I think too, is like time they cast,

608
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: like it'll land in a while later the mouth that

609
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: the worm comes touching down somewhere else with. But the

610
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: ones here are red tail, surf perch tail surf purchase

611
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: and it's funny, man, it's like one of those things

612
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: that enough guys go and if you go look online,

613
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: there's like information, but it's not satisfying to research surf

614
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: perch fishing online. No. I don't know if that's the

615
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: thing about guys just stayd tight lipped about it because

616
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: maybe they don't want the company, or it's maybe just

617
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: like lack of interest overall. I don't know, but people

618
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: should be doing it because I mean, we've all seen

619
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: how many miles and expanses of beach there are here.

620
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 1: I know that's the like I look at like emails

621
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: that come into us and it's just so many guys

622
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: just being like dude, there's so many people and this

623
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: and that and I lost my spot and then no no,

624
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: but then there's like certain things to do like fishing

625
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: surf perch where And I would say that it's not

626
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: fair to say it's an unexploited resource, and it's not.

627
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's fair to say under exploited resource,

628
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: but it it's just that yeah, right, yes they were

629
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: served perch fishing, and you know, another guy come out

630
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: and give it a take a couple of pokes. There

631
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: was there was a few people out there, but it's

632
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: just kind of concentrated around three or four other guys

633
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: out there. I think I saw a total three dudes

634
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: taking a poke somewhere in the vastness of the beach

635
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: for some brief period of time. But it's not they're

636
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: just not getting pounded. And that day when it was

637
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: really good, and on days out there was really good,

638
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: and you just stay in one spot. So you have

639
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: this beach that goes for you know, miles, miles and

640
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: miles and miles and miles, and you cast out and

641
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: it's like there's no way there's a fish out there.

642
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: And you cast out like there's another one. Do you think, like, man,

643
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: there must be a lot of them. But you can't

644
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: just take them. You can't just cook them like, um,

645
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: they're not as forgiving as a lot of fish. They're

646
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: a little delicate and they're like you just got to

647
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: take a little more care. Like they don't like you

648
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: can't just fry them up like you can rock fish

649
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: or cod or anything like that. You can't like carelessly

650
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: hurl it into a bucket of hot oil and think

651
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: it's gonna be good. It's too delicate, and you talk

652
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: about people like to steam them. Yeah, I did that

653
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: kind of kind of a steamy poach thing. One I

654
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: found the two ways I like to I made the

655
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: mistake one time just sautan them and butter and then

656
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: putting them on pasta with my clam so it's like

657
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: a clam surf perch on pasta and they just fell apart.

658
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: And then my kids didn't like it because they're all

659
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: falling apart. They wanted to pick the fish out, but

660
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: they couldn't pick the fish up because the fish disintegrated.

661
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: Then what I started to do is I would take

662
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: them and take the flames and brush them and olive

663
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: oil season them, put him on a on an oil

664
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: bacon sheet and put them in a four degree of

665
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: and let him sitting there until the edges are starting

666
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: to crip potato that's in. Take my spats them right off,

667
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: and those sons of guns are good. Or what we

668
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: did on Christmas Eve, no Christmas dinner last year is

669
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: scaled him, gutted him, left him a hole, cut scored

670
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: him like caught a caught a the fishes sitting in

671
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: horizontal like the way he belongs. Cut three or four

672
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: vertical gashes in them, fry tholes and peanut oil until

673
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: they're until the fins are just crispy, crisp, crisp, And

674
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: it made like a tide dipping sauce. That sounds that

675
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: was good, and everybody liked that. I bet that was good.

676
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: You end up with all those crispy edges on him, man,

677
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: that's good. Then you just pick it for your kids

678
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: and you get to like it. I like anything whole

679
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: fried like that, especially like surf perch, yellow perch, anything

680
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: like that. Whole fried. Man, if I can whole fry it,

681
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: usually that's what I'll do because I just love eating

682
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: them that way. It's like it's something like picking up

683
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: like a turk legger a drumstick when you get them right.

684
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, granted, some fish are just too big to

685
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: do it, but some of the bone structures too, Dell

686
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: gills and sun he's and cropp ease and you know,

687
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: smaller surf perch. They all taste the same, man, you

688
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: just gotta keep more of them. Yeah, that they do.

689
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: But then the only problem is some of them the

690
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: bones are too. Yeah, Like I remember the writer Ian

691
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: Fraser was explaining to me, Uh, eating row schad, not

692
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: the role, but American shad, eating whole cooked, whole baked shad.

693
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: And he equated, uh to trying to fix your watch,

694
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: picking the bones like that level of you know, a

695
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: watch apart. It was pressure cooked and it was good,

696
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: but it was like any other fish you would put

697
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: in a pressure cooker, American shad. It would have been

698
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: cooked for I don't know how long in a pressure cooker.

699
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: A friend of mine goes down and catches lots of them,

700
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: and he loves them. Dude, the eggs out of the

701
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: out of a row shad are unbelievable. I think that's

702
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 1: why I call roll right. Yeah. Well McPhee, John McPhee

703
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: has that book, The Founding Fish, the story. It's the

704
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: traditional way is to just take the whole sack out.

705
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: So I've caught in my life three American shad. One

706
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: happened to be a row chad fighting. One of the

707
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: fighting is fishing out there. This is this in the

708
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: Delaware River. And if anyone knows your Revolutionary war history,

709
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: but this is far above where we're Washington cross the

710
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Delaware crabbab cha or phenomenal crab baby, oily great crab baby. Yeah,

711
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: the book. Mcfee's book, John mcfee's book, The Founding Fish

712
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: is just sort of like an American history, but about

713
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: that fish, sort of the degree to which people on

714
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: the American coast relied on the shad fishery. And there's

715
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: things in Daniel Boone's biography even where so Daniel Boone,

716
00:42:54,520 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: someone came and notified, uh knows Daniel Boone's and this

717
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: came from Boone's son later told Daniel Boone's son was

718
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: later interviewed and he was telling a story about his

719
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: father and mother, and the story was that the shad

720
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: were running in Pennsylvania when Boone's family was still in Pennsylvania.

721
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to trying to remember how this goes,

722
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: so so I get it right. And they caught baskets full,

723
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: They netted up baskets full of American shad. Had they

724
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: had so many that one of the kids was dispatched.

725
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I think it was Daniel maybe was dispatched to go

726
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: to a neighbor's and tell the neighbors, come get fish,

727
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: we have so many fish. So he does and comes

728
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: back and somehow Daniel Boone winds up being asleep by

729
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: where they're fishing, and the two girls are sent over

730
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: to get fish and they see Boone's sleeping and they

731
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: dump a bucket of fish guts on Boone's face as

732
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: a prank, and Boone gets up in cold cocks one

733
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: of them and they run home to tell on them,

734
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: and the mom comes over to give the what for

735
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: to Boone's mom, and she says, well, you better teach

736
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: those girls some manners frontier justice. Uh. But the traditional

737
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: way as you take the you you basically like very

738
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: gently sawte the fish's egg sack in Bacon, Greece. This

739
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: how it's done is yeah, Yeah, we've been known to

740
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: go down and catch a bunch of them, just have

741
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: a bunch of crab bait throughout the summer. American same

742
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: introduced him out here. There's tons of them in Columbia,

743
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: and I remember hearing the history about how they were introduced,

744
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: but I don't want to talk about it because I'll

745
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: probably get it wrong. But they were. It's a it was, yeah,

746
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: But there's literally millions of them in the Columbia River.

747
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: And you go down an anchor up a boat and

748
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: put back little dick knights and bring lots of snacks

749
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: and kids and like kids really all day. It's just

750
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: a small little shaver spoon. Heard of a dick night?

751
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: You've never heard of a dick night? No, I thought

752
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: you were. I thought you were using like a euphemism. No,

753
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: they're called a dick night. It's like we did, oh,

754
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: because we would use just these little little red white

755
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: jigs like a little Yeah, you can use those. While

756
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: you look so while you look so unhappy that we're

757
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: talking about surf perch and and uh American American Chad,

758
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: I look unhappy. I'm cool. Really, you're fine, Yeah, anything

759
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: like that. Any questions to come up? No, I'm tracking

760
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: so far. Is it just that? Is it just that

761
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: because you just don't have a lot of experience with

762
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: surf perch, I have none with shad a little bit

763
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: of surf. Can you tell me what your impressions are

764
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 1: of surf percha fishing yesterday? I'd like to hear, because

765
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: you've never been before, and there you were there, I

766
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: was standing there in your chest waiters on a lonely beach.

767
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking earlier how it doesn't seem like how

768
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: driving all over the beaches messed the beach up at all.

769
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: But there's probably things that happened that you don't see

770
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: sut or something. But it's like, if you're gonna drive

771
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: on a beach, that's the beach to do it on.

772
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: Things basically made out of concrete. Yeah, although someone's uh

773
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: sunk right in about five minutes after we got there.

774
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: But that that beaches a different. That beach is a

775
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: little teeny different than Morox. Yeah. Yeah, it's when you

776
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: enter the beach out here, it's pretty soft. I don't

777
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: think you should be driving your astro van out there.

778
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: They were they were too And if you do, you

779
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: better come in hot and get to the hard stand. Yeah,

780
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: what what other? What was your what? What other things

781
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: you have to add? There? You are? You in your

782
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: chest laiters probably be an American. Well, you know, it's

783
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: always nice to be in a position doing something you've

784
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: never done before. You know, well, challenge coming out, Yeah,

785
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: something you to learn and uh, it wasn't a very

786
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: good day of fishing though that day it was. It

787
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: was tough, but you know ended up being fine. You know,

788
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: worked out for me because I just started looking around

789
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: and going all right, what what am I going to

790
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: do differently than we're doing? And try to catch fish

791
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 1: and end up finding a little rip current and just thinking, oh,

792
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'll fish because everyone gleaning from what everybody

793
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,720
Speaker 1: else is saying, like a little drop is good, current

794
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: break is good, and just sort of looking for something different.

795
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: I found this little rip and ended up catching six

796
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: fish out of it. So did you get six? Yeah?

797
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Worked out pretty good. Yeah, I think I let to

798
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: go and kept four. Surf perch master all he kept

799
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: one or two all day yesterday. You know, surf perchas

800
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: and razor clams too. I'm thinking earlier. While I like

801
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: surf perching and raisor clambing, shad fishing, all those things,

802
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: it's different from most other things I do, such a

803
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: steel head fishing or hunting, because you can walk out

804
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: on the beach and you'll talk to the guy that

805
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: you see, Like you said, you don't mind seeing people.

806
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: You're like, how you doing. He'll say I caught three

807
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: and you actually believe them. Yeah, Or you raise your

808
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: clan and you're like, oh man, i'm loading up here.

809
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: I got two limits. You believe them. You're like, this

810
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: is a good spot, I'm gonna stay here. You go.

811
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: Shad fishing people are like there willing to share the

812
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: information about these fisheries, right, like such as you were

813
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: willing to share the information with Steve about the star perching.

814
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: You go to a boat launch it up on the

815
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: Peninsula rivers. You asked somebody about steelhead they caught that day.

816
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: It's been a slow day day. I mean, you don't

817
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: know what happened, honest answer out of anybody from Hoquium

818
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: to Fork. Yeah, why do you think that is? I

819
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's a lot of it. It's

820
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: like they want to preserve something that they feel it's

821
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: more special to them than anyone else or I don't know,

822
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: and they don't want more. We already got enough people. Yeah,

823
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: you know, we don't need any more. People don't talk

824
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: about it, and it makes me upset and be honest

825
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: with you, because guys just want to fish, you know.

826
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: Guys just want to get out and catch some stuff, man,

827
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: you know. And besides, when you talk about a fishery,

828
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: whether it be surf perch, whether it be steelhead on

829
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 1: the peninsula, if you're going to name a place, it's

830
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: kind of a good thing because then it's bringing money

831
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 1: to it, attention, you know, and those are management keeps

832
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: you know, and and it's there's no ownership for those

833
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: guys that are fishing those rivers. You know, a lot

834
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: of people get ticked off when even people come from

835
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: the west Side, you know, I guess they called the

836
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,479
Speaker 1: east side to the west side to fish these rivers

837
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: out here and so on. Uh, it's kind of like

838
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: this territorial thing. And it's unfortunate because I think, you know,

839
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: it's obviously a resource we all have to share, and

840
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 1: it's everybody has the same right to it. So people

841
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: want to keep hush hush to try to keep people

842
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: away from it. Like it's like it's theirs, like a

843
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: honey hole, you know. So it's just protecting there. You know.

844
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: They don't want you to think it's good because you'll

845
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: come back tomorrow. You're gonna bring more, bring more people.

846
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: And to like to that point though too, Like you

847
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: go out to the peninsula in the wintertime when steel

848
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: head seasons in full swing and look at license plates. Man,

849
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: you'd be surprised how many dudes are from Montana. The

850
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: guys are out there fishing and want to want to

851
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: catch a steel a on a two hand and flower Well,

852
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: that's a recent development to which is the guiding operations.

853
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: You know, these guys they go they guide all the

854
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: trout rivers, uh, all all year long, and then they

855
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: come over here in the winter and guide. But that's

856
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: kind of what you doing that though, fishing these rivers

857
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: out here for Sam and both of you. Yeah, for sure.

858
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: That's another thing that like kind of got me with

859
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: like another notch in the surf perch belt is like

860
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: it wasn't what it was, or it isn't what it

861
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: once was, you know what I mean with a hey,

862
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: look at me, I got this great big fish. Is

863
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 1: what it's become. Like those were like such fond memories.

864
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: It just as a kid going to those almost sad rivers. Yeah, man,

865
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: it almost hurts to see what they've come to. In

866
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,919
Speaker 1: a sense, you can kind of love it to death.

867
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: And it's like I love it so much that I'll

868
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: just step away from it because I don't want to

869
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: see it hurt anymore, and I'll go stand on the beach,

870
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: I'll go fish cropp ease. I love fishing croppies. You

871
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: know that. I'm right there with you. I mean, I

872
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: used to pound these rivers up here, and when I

873
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: just love going to them. When I'm talking to do

874
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 1: how much time have we spent talking to me? Talked

875
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 1: about me spending time to fish and steelhead or salmon,

876
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: because I just don't much anymore. That's when I meet people,

877
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: when I when I meet people that know Tony, they

878
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: always want to tell me about your reputation as the same.

879
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: And steelhead guy spend a lot of time out here,

880
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: but not recently. And it's like him, It's like I

881
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: don almost just rather step away and just not be

882
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: one of the crowds and just kind of like, hey,

883
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: you guys, enjoy it whatever. And I don't know if

884
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: that's remember maybe fish you've kind of done it. I

885
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: don't want to say I've been there, done that like

886
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: it does, but it's it's like I've caught my I've

887
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: caught my shirt of steel and I've got some really

888
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: beautiful fish. Um, I'm happy floating that river. I'm happy

889
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: floating the wheats and through the rainforest and not catching

890
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 1: a single fish. And I will take far fewer fish,

891
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: far fewer fish over beauty. I will take far fewer fish,

892
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: maybe even not even one for a season, and beautiful

893
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: scenery over crowds and limits. And I really will I'll

894
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: hike into arguing people are. It gets kind of ridiculous.

895
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: People just yelling at yeah, you know, right through a

896
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: water whatever. It's like, Man, there's a stump over here,

897
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: there's a long jam over here. I got nowhere else

898
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: to go, you know where I gotta go. You know,

899
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's just it's crowds and it's it's uh,

900
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, people being territorial and thinking you should be

901
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: off the river. Whatever it is, I don't know, it's

902
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: just kind of gotten to a point where it's got

903
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: it's a little ridiculous. Now. It must be something that like,

904
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: it must be something that's like a steelhead thing, because

905
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: it is I went through years of being maybe people

906
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 1: feel so lusty for steel him that it brings out

907
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: the worst of them, because I went through a few

908
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: years of being really really into fishing steel head in

909
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: the Great Lakes, like into it, into it to the

910
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: point like making hash marks on the roof of my

911
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: van too mark like comedy got you know what I mean,

912
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Like golf clicker mentality about oh my god, I landed

913
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: forty two you know in April May or whatever, um

914
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 1: like that kind of into it because I had kind

915
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: of like quit mostly quipped fur trapping and hadn't found

916
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: something that because when you trapped, you like your trap

917
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: every day. So when I quit doing that, there's a

918
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: couple of years there. Yeah, I quit doing that. I

919
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: was twenty two and there was a couple of years

920
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 1: there before I moved out west, and uh, you needed

921
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: something to fill that, like every danis. So I got

922
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: way into fishing steelhead and I would the only fights

923
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: I've been in. I got in one fight on a

924
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: river Montana, which I'll tell you about, but all the

925
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: fights were always like fighting steel with steelhead guys. I remember,

926
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: like it was so like so combative. I remember a

927
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: guy one time saying, asked me what my name was.

928
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: I said, Steve. He goes, well, Steve, I think I

929
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: hooked your waiters fishing that tight where a guy hooked

930
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: my waiter on his drift. Yeah, just elabowing people out

931
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: of the way getting there, because if you're if you're

932
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: in a spot and you're hooking a couple of steelhead,

933
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 1: other dudes just are like it just it makes them

934
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: feel sick. They want in their soul bad. I mean,

935
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: especially if you come in there after them. Yeah, I've

936
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: seen like people people act that way for pinks, which

937
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: is which is like, I don't know, maybe, and I'm

938
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: sure a lot of it's just people that don't catch

939
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: a lot of fish, so they don't understand, like they

940
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: probably just don't have any appreciation for like quality of

941
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: it of their fish or their querry or whatever it

942
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: may be. But they I mean, I've seen scenarios where

943
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: you'll be lined up on a river and then people

944
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: are hooking waiters. You'll be waited out in the water

945
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 1: knee deep and say your twenty ft from let's say

946
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: you're twelve feet from the from the rocks, from the gravel,

947
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: from the gravel bar, and somebody standing on the gravel

948
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: bar casting over the top of you. Yes, I've seen that.

949
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: That's another That's just another reason why, man, I just

950
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: don't just see. Yeah, there's always gonna be those those Uh,

951
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: it's just locations where you know it's an easy access

952
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: point and you know what you're in for. You know

953
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: you're in for battle fishing. It's an easy access point.

954
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: It's a place for people to go have a good

955
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: chance at catching the steelhead if they drawn have a boat.

956
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 1: Not everybody has a boat. Um, you know, in recent

957
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: years there's just been more and more boats. It's gone

958
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: from seeing three trailers out of take out to seeing

959
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, twenty trailers and just leap frogging down rivers

960
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: and all that. So you know, you're always gonna have

961
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: a combat fishing, and I just think everybody needs to

962
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: be yeah, understanding that, Hey, every person on that river

963
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: has the exact same right to the catching a steelhead

964
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 1: as they do, no matter where the heck you're from.

965
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: From Montana, I know, Washington, wherever it is, there there

966
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: is and but there, but there is the dispute I

967
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: got into. Yeah, I want to hear the Montana story. Yeah,

968
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: I was coming up. I was with my old I

969
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 1: think I was fishing with my old roommate, j Nichols,

970
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: who wanted becoming a he want like having a whole

971
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,919
Speaker 1: career in fly fishing magazines and fly fishing publications. We're

972
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: fishing one of the upper forks of the Bitter Roote

973
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: and um wade fishing. Picking my way up river, and

974
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: I come to a spot where a where a guide

975
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: who's doing who's doing a dave float has this little

976
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: like this, this cute little lunch set up on the

977
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: beach for his sport, for his client, right down to

978
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: a checkered tablecloth. I've seen that. Yeah, shore launch, nice

979
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: shore lunch for the client. Yeah, but it's almost like

980
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: it's a little too it's a little too much. It's

981
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: like it's just like really, really really, that's what this is,

982
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: what has come to in this world. You can't just

983
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: sit on a rock and eat something sandwich, so chair, tablecloth,

984
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: table every Yeah, I got buddies that runching every single time. Yeah,

985
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: there there gets a barbecue out and make you a burger.

986
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: That he did that, I would have been like a

987
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 1: cool he's making it on a burger. But it's just

988
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: like a little cute, see little set up. It sounds

989
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: like it was a little too cute for you. It's like,

990
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: are you there to fish or not? Right? Right? I

991
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: get that. I can see you sit on a rock,

992
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,479
Speaker 1: stand around, kick rocks, I don't know, eat whatever. That's fine.

993
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: I can accept that. But anyhow, it didn't that. That

994
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: was just an observation I had that I thought was

995
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: a little much. It was a little much. A tablecloth,

996
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: checkered tablecloth. Yeah, I can see why Why did you

997
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: do that? Did you like it? I guess because you're

998
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: just you're just trying to impress a little bit. You know,

999
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 1: you're out there working and I don't know, I guess

1000
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: in the case, it was a slow day, right, at

1001
00:58:56,800 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: least the lunch will be nice. Report was the table used?

1002
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: Was it checkered? Yeah? It was green and white. I

1003
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: think I still have it somewhere tucked away for years.

1004
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: And tablecloth? What was the spread? Sometimes I'd washed that

1005
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: thing every day in the washing machine, and a lot

1006
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 1: of along with my No, it's a lot of my

1007
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: clothes at my house. But uh yeah, nothing worse than

1008
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: about our tablecloth that already had catchup mustard. So when

1009
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: you're guiding, your guiding for an outfit, but it's up

1010
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: to you to do all that stuff. Yeah, I think

1011
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: they had like a base level that they wanted you

1012
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: to follow. You had to have a table in two chairs,

1013
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: for sure. It's a very minimum. I think they asked

1014
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: that we had a table cloth. You'd pull over a

1015
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: little roll top table, hopefully under a shade tree, and

1016
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: you put a tablecloth down and he set one out

1017
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: for him, depending on the on the year and who

1018
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: was doing the lunch catering. But it was most of

1019
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: the time. Some sort of sandwich and you know, some hides,

1020
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: cookies and soda, pop water, pretty simple, nice macaroni salad

1021
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: maybe in there for you with your sandwich. Didn't matter

1022
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: how cute they were, sounds kind of good man woman,

1023
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: didn't matter. It didn't matter. Just just gonna do it

1024
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: as I got. As I got um, I guess more experienced.

1025
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: And I had the clients that I took year after year.

1026
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 1: If they weren't into it and they wanted an actually

1027
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of fishing, because that would buy them, I

1028
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: would just pull over underneath the shade tree on and

1029
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 1: sit in the boat and you know, wolf it down.

1030
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: Like so you would have clients who would say yeah,

1031
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: you would say like that's a little much. Yeah, a

1032
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: little much. I'd be that guy. Let's just keep fishing. Really,

1033
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: but it's like really really, I've said this before that

1034
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: I had a lot of clients who used me a

1035
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: lot because their wives like fishing me. And there were

1036
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: guys that were like, well, I get to fish more

1037
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: since my wife is into this. I'm gonna use this

1038
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: guy because he's like his trucks tight, you know, lunch

1039
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: is tight, attractive, he's got it like I doesn't have

1040
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: a potty mouth out there. You know, my wife's not

1041
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: always going like jeez, can't believe Mill's talking about that again.

1042
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 1: So I could picture you being like the guy that

1043
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: a dude would get because you're gonna be nice to

1044
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: his wife, and then you roll that little tablecloth out.

1045
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right. So what happened was so there

1046
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: I was picking my way up river. Oh you guys

1047
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: having a little dip up. I'll get back. I'll get

1048
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: back to my real quick, which I might have talked

1049
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 1: about the past, But can we talk about this a

1050
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: little bit? Uh, Tony, You've been trying to quit chewing tobacco,

1051
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: but then here you are, you running to Tommy. He's

1052
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: died in the woold man. I'm a dipper man. Yeah,

1053
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: I love it. I really like And you started dipping

1054
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: down from exposure to him. No, no, I can't blame

1055
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: it on him. I thank you for not blaming you

1056
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: have told me I just quit, I'd be like, no,

1057
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: you may not have a cheer since February twelve. And

1058
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: on the way out here, I knew it was gonna

1059
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: be a long drive, and I know it's going fishing,

1060
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: and that's one of those things you just other dippers,

1061
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: do you guys case dippers a spoofy kind of joke.

1062
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: May not? I mean, I just it's you associated with

1063
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: certain things, right. But I was like, I'm gonna be

1064
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: in ther time. What do you guys refer yourself? What

1065
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: is one who likes to like a smoke or everybody

1066
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: knows that. Yeah, I'd be like your self identify as

1067
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: a chew I self identifies trying to tell me about yourself,

1068
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: you'd be like mature. I know, not the first thing

1069
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: I throw out there, but yeah, so go ahead, Tony.

1070
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: So here you are. You know you're on a long

1071
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: drive and it's gonna be chewers pick up. Yeah, And

1072
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: I go to the gas I shouldn't fill up And

1073
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: I walked inside to grab some snacks and was big

1074
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: and it was called my name. Yeah, a lapse self control.

1075
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 1: And I purchased my first candid shoo since February twelve.

1076
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: Our man Dirt myth uh. We were down in South

1077
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: America and he was trying to quit and he gets

1078
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: home and I asked him how it went, and he

1079
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: said the same thing. You fill up your gas tank.

1080
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: You can't buy a gas there it is, and you

1081
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: walk into the gas station, I would suggest he just

1082
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: pays with a debit card and buys his groceries elsewhere,

1083
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: because the minute he says, I can't go into a

1084
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: gas station because when I go up to the counter there,

1085
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: I am faced with it and it talks to strong definitely,

1086
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: because like he said, who goes inside to pay for

1087
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,959
Speaker 1: gas anymore? Well, inside of a gas station? Yeah, okay,

1088
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: So if he did, I'm saying from people, you're probably

1089
01:03:57,440 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: in there public gas and you're like, I know, what's

1090
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: about feet away from through one door one door through?

1091
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 1: It's not Yeah, like the fact that dippers need to

1092
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,959
Speaker 1: go in there to buy snacks. It's like you know, yeah,

1093
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: all you're buying is a container to drink real fast.

1094
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: You can spit. Yeah, that's right, because that's right. That's

1095
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: why I bought that green that green thing I bought it.

1096
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, that's wide mouth, how this thing about? Yeah?

1097
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: This crazy? I mean not that I'm gonna if I

1098
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: did counter and there it was saying saying, um, that's

1099
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: good point, because it's like guys, cheers, they're trying to

1100
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: quit going to the gas stations with single people say

1101
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to the bar, you know, like you're going

1102
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: to the bar. Yes, but that's not where you're really

1103
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: looking to get out of this this other thing you're hacing.

1104
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 1: But you you, you, you know, so when you're going

1105
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: to get a snack at the gas station. So there

1106
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: I am walking up this fork of the bitter Root,

1107
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 1: and I stolen across this guide. He's got this very

1108
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: romantic little setting going on, and I make the mistake

1109
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: in his eyes of fishing the hole that he's camp

1110
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: that he's having his lunch at lunch hole, but he's

1111
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 1: not fishing it. The dude comes undone, undone, the guy

1112
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: or the client, the guy, the guide in front of

1113
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: the client that he's trying to woo with this little

1114
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: setup with a tablecloth. And I come back and take

1115
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: a couple of pokes through there, just fishing trout. It's

1116
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: not he's like making a living out here selling this

1117
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: meat or something. So fishing trout, and come through, take

1118
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: a couple of pokes. The guy comes undone. We later

1119
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: had a reckoning in Charlie's Barn, Missoula, Montana. Not not

1120
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: at the takeout, you weren't. We had a fight and

1121
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: then and and then it was funny because later we

1122
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: wound up kind of drinking the same place I would

1123
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: see him. I've been there, you know, And we later

1124
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: had a reckoning and he had and uh, if I

1125
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: remember correctly, I feel that he admitted his wrongness, and

1126
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: I might have admitted a little bit of my wrongness

1127
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 1: for responding in such a strong way to his criticism.

1128
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: But I feel I still today feel like if you're

1129
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: if you're eating lunch and not fishing, that you do

1130
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: not have a legitimate claim on the whole. How do

1131
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: you feel about that? You honest? What's the guide's perspective?

1132
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: It's kind of dependent on probably on how much pressures

1133
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: on the river, you know. I mean, if it's like

1134
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: a river where you've been waiting for two hours you

1135
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: hadn't seen a person, and then you got just you know,

1136
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: unlimited water past their boat, that's kind of that's kind

1137
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: of like this. It's like that sounds like the spot.

1138
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: You might as well just skip it and kind of

1139
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: move on as much for your own personal experiences. That's

1140
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: a lot like this. That's a lot like the spot. Actually,

1141
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: I agree with Yeah, I wasn't the wrong. I think

1142
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: I'll always think some I was saying, if it was

1143
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: it was like a busy river, then one around around. Yeah,

1144
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 1: I'll probably skip that one, Steve. I think if you're

1145
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: in a boat and you're floating down, you're like, okay,

1146
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: you're here, we're gonna have lunch, and then we're gonna

1147
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 1: fish this whole. And if it's trout stream, you know,

1148
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 1: you're kind of just letting it rest. Maybe a boat

1149
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: went through, you're letting it rest. If you're gonna have

1150
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: lunch there, like you're kind of claiming that run for

1151
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: a period of time. I think I think at minimum

1152
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: it would have been worth it. Hey do you mind

1153
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: if I fish this round? That's the thing you just

1154
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: gotta Hey can I It's like when you get when

1155
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: you walk up to where you want to fish and

1156
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: there's a guy in there? Do you mind if I

1157
01:07:54,320 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: step in? Then you're gonna do you think about that? Jeez?

1158
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't know you ever been a guide? Never? You

1159
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: guys have all guid I'm definitely not. You never guide

1160
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: a time, No, sir, I probably would have just asked

1161
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: or there's lots of holes I would want them. I

1162
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't want an audience. I just keep moving. But that's

1163
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 1: just me. But it didn't contest him causing a scene

1164
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: at the same time, if he wasn't really making me reconsidered,

1165
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: because it's like obviously scarred me because I bring it

1166
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: up all the time. It sounds like this is something

1167
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: from way ago ended up my wife. Yet that's how

1168
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 1: long ago this was. I mean, there's so there there's

1169
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: a couple of you. If this was also a place

1170
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 1: where that you were walking in and then there's a boat,

1171
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: that's true. Is that true? I was walking in and

1172
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: they had a boat. They were in a boat. So

1173
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: here I'm a lowly walker. That's different too because they

1174
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: have the ability to fish this whole stretch river And

1175
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: you're like, man, I just hiked a mile and a

1176
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: half of my leg, Like this is where I was

1177
01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: planning to, you know, And if that's a well known

1178
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 1: is where people do hike into, I would never stop

1179
01:09:02,280 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: there to have much fault as a guy. So it

1180
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: could be yeah, so it could be completely very circumstantial.

1181
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 1: You're cooling all this table class, You got anything to

1182
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: add on surf perch because we still need to talk

1183
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: about today, which was lights out, the one of the

1184
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: top days of the fishing I've ever experienced my entire

1185
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: life like the most gorgeous day I've ever had on

1186
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: the Washington coast. It is concluding thought on surf perch around.

1187
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: I would do it again. You know, I had so

1188
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 1: much fun anytime I go back out there right now

1189
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 1: the other time and go make take a few pokes.

1190
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: Let me tell you why it's better than the winter

1191
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 1: in my opinion, this this is why it's This is

1192
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: why I clam digging is nice because it's a winter

1193
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: spring thing. Is when you're out there in the winter,

1194
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: this it's like you're out there and you're so happy

1195
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: that there's something going on because it's the time of

1196
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: year when nothing's going on, Like February. If you're a hunting,

1197
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: fishing kind of fella, February can be you know, the

1198
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: dog days. There's nothing else. It's like you might not

1199
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 1: be like kicking tons of as season. And so then

1200
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: you go out there and it's like, wow, like a

1201
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 1: productive fishery in the winter. But to be there in

1202
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: the summer, it's still fun. But you're you're sort of like, oh, well,

1203
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: I could be, I could be. We could also go.

1204
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: It's got a different kind of joy in the wintertime too,

1205
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: because like you said, it's this desolate, hostile place and

1206
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: here's you get this like bright spot of this fresh

1207
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: fish that you're like, oh man, yes, it's like it's

1208
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a little bit of a buzz.

1209
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: If you like having the place all yourself, that's a

1210
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: good thing. That's the best time to you out there.

1211
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: Your people look at funny and the fishing can be

1212
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 1: great in the winter. Dude, should be doing it. You know,

1213
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: it's bigger one tuch a little bit. All right, now,

1214
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: you're cool on that because I want to get into

1215
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: the world's greatest day of fishing. It was pretty amazing.

1216
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 1: Lights out go along with that something I never do now, yeah,

1217
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that I rarely do, but almost want

1218
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: to do more of because of how much you learn,

1219
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 1: which is go out with a go out on a charter,

1220
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: go out with a guide. And I'm kind of down

1221
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: on it because it's never like not down on it,

1222
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: but it's never as much fun as because you're not

1223
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 1: solving the problems yourself. And so a lot of what

1224
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: I like about hunting and fishing is solving is the

1225
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: problem solving and thinking that goes into it and like

1226
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: the teamwork right, and when you're out with the guy

1227
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,719
Speaker 1: just's kind of like you're not catching the fish. If anything,

1228
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: you're just like hindering the operation. Like that they would

1229
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: get you know that everything you're doing, they would do better,

1230
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: and they're the brain behind it. And you just stand there,

1231
01:11:55,600 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, with your ye know, your hand, uh, while

1232
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: this person is plotting and figuring and they've gotten the

1233
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: bait together, they put the plan together, they know what

1234
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 1: to do, and you're like staying, oh, do what you do,

1235
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 1: what you do and all those things like all right,

1236
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 1: dropped down, Yeah, and you've done nothing nothing, Yeah, you

1237
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: haven't even tied your own stuff on. So when people

1238
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 1: are kind of like, oh, I caught a blankety blank,

1239
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, I caught an ex pound blankety blank with

1240
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: a guy, and I'm like, the guy had caught it,

1241
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: like he'd let you reel it in and everything, but

1242
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 1: it wasn't like your fish. Yeah. In the world of salmon,

1243
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: a steel head and the oarsmen in a in a

1244
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: drift about the oarsman's usually takes, in my opinion, takes

1245
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: credit for most of fish. And he's a guy that's

1246
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: putting you on the fish. All he's telling you to

1247
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: do is cast over there. The oarsman is a guy

1248
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: exerting the skill. You know. I mean that your thing though,

1249
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: with with hiring a guide, what it does, do the

1250
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 1: positives of it if you don't have like if it's

1251
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: not readily accessible, it's great for shortening a learning curve. Yeah.

1252
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: And then this case, uh, what's what's the name of that?

1253
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: Operations and saltwater ch charters, All rivers and saltwater charters.

1254
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: The dudes were solid the skipper, and they made it

1255
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: a good day. We only got into what we did,

1256
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:20,800
Speaker 1: yet they only made it a good day. Is that

1257
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: those guys wound up being like dudes out fish with anyway,

1258
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: and treated us like dudes, like they were good enough

1259
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:34,080
Speaker 1: actors or gine. He felt this way, where like the

1260
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 1: interaction was was like everyone on equal footage. Yeah, you know,

1261
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: they're like, we clearly like to fit catch fish. They

1262
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: clearly still like to catch fish. I say still because

1263
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: imagine some day it goes away when you die too long,

1264
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: I asked he, And on the way back in, I

1265
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: was like, what do you do in your spare time?

1266
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 1: Because I know when you guide a lot, a lot

1267
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 1: of times you don't fish that much in your spare time.

1268
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: And he's like, I go fishing. So he job. They

1269
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: like to fish. They like to talk about fish, catch fish. Um,

1270
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: we showed up dressed through the parts too. We didn't

1271
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: look like, you know, we just got off the plane. Yeah,

1272
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: so they're probably like, Okay, we're not gonna be like

1273
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 1: getting hooks out of people's hands all day long. And man,

1274
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: was that fun. My arms tired. You need a vessel

1275
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: because we went out. We're fishing twenty miles out. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1276
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 1: but it was so smooth. If you snapped your fingers

1277
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: and could freeze it solid, you could ice skated on it.

1278
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: It was much smooth, so much smoother than the baby's bottom.

1279
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 1: So my kid, uh, my youngest kid. You've got a

1280
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 1: parallels swim shorts that have the built in underwear. Yeah,

1281
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 1: and somehow like it most not like it must irritate

1282
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: them a little bit or something when he's like wet

1283
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: with that mesh on him, because now he runs around

1284
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: making everyone he pulls his pants. That makes everyone. It

1285
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: just butt really, so he'll laugh, my laugh, he'll laugh,

1286
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: my laugh. It's got like it's just butt cheeks and

1287
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,360
Speaker 1: he kind of just like gets all dreamy looking at

1288
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: bints of fall asleep. Really, it's like scratching love this

1289
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: butt cheeks scratch with his own fingers because he likes

1290
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: to luxuriate. Man, he wants to get a nice spot

1291
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: where you can lay down with his butt in your face,

1292
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, and you start like scratching his butt cheeks

1293
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: a little bit, looks like you're scratching a dog on

1294
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: the and he just likes to like passes out. Yeah,

1295
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: then you quit and you kind of like jolts away

1296
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: so much smoother than the baby's bottom. And I'm saying

1297
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 1: that with where with where I have knowledge of what

1298
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: that feels like. Um, and in a lot of places

1299
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: like lin Cod. So if if you go to people

1300
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 1: in the know on Pacific saltwater fish, Lincot have your

1301
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: reputation as being one of the one of the greats

1302
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: upper echelon bottom fish for sure, like one of the

1303
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: table table table fair man. They're like top few. Yeah,

1304
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: they're great, They're delicious. Yeah. People that know are like sure,

1305
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people like Halib because halibit

1306
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: is very approachable, you know, it's like reliable, It's white, dense, flaky, mild,

1307
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: you can do anything with it. But like link, COD

1308
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: is kind of a better version. Yeah, definitely, kind of

1309
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: a better version COD, but more royal. Yeah, it's like, yeah,

1310
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: they're delicious. They're whether you want to put them on

1311
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: a grill, whether you want to beer, batter them up

1312
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: and fry them, anything you want. The answers, yes, they're delicious.

1313
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 1: They don't hold together on a grill. It does. I

1314
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: don't think they're still they're still. They're definitely worthy, but

1315
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: they're yeah, yeah, they're great, They're good. I love them.

1316
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:01,680
Speaker 1: They rag them out like the REGs very so much so.

1317
01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: In Southeast Alaska, you know, there's you know, people have

1318
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: bottom and limits like everything, right, it's gonna be like

1319
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: over x inches. In some places they have a slot,

1320
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: like out in the San Juan Island where my buddy

1321
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: Pooter lives. The slot is to thirty six inches. So

1322
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: those are the ones you can keep, you're allowed to keep.

1323
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: It has to be a minimum, but it has been

1324
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: under you know, if there's a different term when it's opposite.

1325
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: Because in North Carolina, for red fish, you can keep

1326
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 1: them up to seventeen and then over seven. Man, I'm

1327
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: sure there's a term for it, but I don't know

1328
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 1: what it's like a reverse. I'd like to kind of

1329
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: like the REGs on like if if a guy wanted

1330
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: to keep a large mouth bass in a lick. I

1331
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: think it's still referred to as a slot limit. No

1332
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 1: slot is only when there's a when there's a bottom

1333
01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: and top cap, like you gotta fall in the slot.

1334
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: So we're out. I caught uh. Last year I went

1335
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: out and caught one, because you're hat one a day

1336
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 1: up there, you lot to a day here, no slot

1337
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 1: limit up there. North of here, you're not one day.

1338
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: So last year I went out, caught one, it hit

1339
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 1: the slot. This year ago caught one hit the slot,

1340
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: and I dubbed myself the slot tickler. So my wife

1341
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: thought was a repugnant term, but I just thought was like,

1342
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 1: I like, can tickle them right in the slot on

1343
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: the slot size on that right, just speaking just link.

1344
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 1: But here you're allowed, Yeah, you're allowed to per person

1345
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: in this zone too, per person, no size limit. And

1346
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: we motor out and first stop, I think something like

1347
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 1: what the seventeen miles out? I think he said twelve

1348
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: to catch, twelve to fish bait, and we got little

1349
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: rigs with a like eight ounds lead ball. And there's

1350
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 1: a couple look like oversized croppy jigs with a little

1351
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,439
Speaker 1: bit of squid squid tentacle, And dropped down and caught bait,

1352
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: and we caught twenty flounder. That we're not twenty flounder

1353
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: the size of the size of your hand. And there's

1354
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,320
Speaker 1: a handful of species down there. Little flat fish. Yeah,

1355
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: I was, I had. That's when the good time started. Man,

1356
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: I was having fun doing that. Oh man, my kid

1357
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 1: has stayed there all day, fished up for bait. So

1358
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: fished up a bunch of bait and what what put

1359
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 1: twenty in alive? Well, and then motored out a ways more.

1360
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: And like normally when you're fishing link Hod, you're fishing,

1361
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 1: they're like the tops of stuff, So like the tops

1362
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: of very sharp ridge lines, the tops of underwater spires,

1363
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: the tops of underwater peaks, like the tops of stuff,

1364
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 1: and rock fish tend to like the sides of stuff.

1365
01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: But out here, he said, there's so little structure that

1366
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 1: any little feature will hold fish. And we were on uh.

1367
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 1: He was saying, just like any discrepancy in the bottom,

1368
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,600
Speaker 1: or it could just simply be that like we were

1369
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: fishing on the feature. There was only a couple of

1370
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: feet higher than the surrounding stuff, but it was like

1371
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 1: like it was like an area that was a harder bottom.

1372
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of a rise up like

1373
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 1: maybe some old rock down there, but still pretty smooth.

1374
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: He said, any feature will gang them up, that's what

1375
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 1: he said. It totally blows me away that you can

1376
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,719
Speaker 1: have this like so uniform bottom and there's one little

1377
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: hummock or hill in it and that's all it takes.

1378
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: And they must have been piled. It must have been

1379
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: because we made what how many passes? Do we make? Three? Three?

1380
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: Three passes over getting at one or two? So we

1381
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: had six dudes, five grown ups, my older boy, and

1382
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: so we're allowed to put twelve lincod in the boat.

1383
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's maybe a few passes, four passes, and

1384
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: you bring that flounder like you put a hook through

1385
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 1: his lip, run the other hook around back by his tail,

1386
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 1: put it in there, drop it down and boom. That's

1387
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: kind of what it sounds like. If you could hear it. No,

1388
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:21,320
Speaker 1: if you could hear it, I think it would sound

1389
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 1: like it would sound like um right, all right, all right,

1390
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: nah right, what exactly that I think they because other

1391
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: places just right, the only word I could think for it,

1392
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the word I could think

1393
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: for how Lincoln normally hits. I was gonna say, be

1394
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: slap it, like they be slap that bag right here,

1395
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: they mouth it, kind of pick it up, they mouth it.

1396
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, he's just going I'd like

1397
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: to see it. Toads, big toads, dragons, dragons, Like you

1398
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: could take both the fists. You can take both your

1399
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: fists together. How big was the biggest one we had,

1400
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: say sixteen pounds, I would just less than eight ninety

1401
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: at the top. You can take both your fists knuckle

1402
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: knuckle and stick in his mouth without touching the teeth

1403
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: and fully flared out like that. We should talk about teeth.

1404
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 1: I think that's why people call him dragons is because

1405
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:38,599
Speaker 1: the mouth he could you could like you do when

1406
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,720
Speaker 1: you fold your socks right, how you could like take

1407
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: your mom your sock and like jam it, reverse it.

1408
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: It's almos Like you open that mouth up. It's like

1409
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 1: you could put the fish back through the mouth. Yeah, yeah,

1410
01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: you could. Like you can cut him off at the

1411
01:22:56,920 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: gills and then turn around and in his his corpse,

1412
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: his carcass back through his mouth problem. Remember the sculpting family.

1413
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: Just an amazing fish in a pectoral fin that doesn't quit.

1414
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: A pectoral fin the size of your hands spread out, Yeah,

1415
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: the size of a grown man's hand, completely spread out. Snaky.

1416
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: It's one of those fishing people. I was like, Oh,

1417
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: he's ugly, and I'm like, yeah, but in a beautiful

1418
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: sort of way. In a beautiful kind of way. Yeah.

1419
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: And they get like the females get that big old

1420
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: belly on them, you know, that big old link cod

1421
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: apple bottom kind of just back there by their vent.

1422
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 1: They just get this big swollen belly and they're just

1423
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: pretty when they come out of the water. They're cool

1424
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: looking with their blotchy uniforms kind of colors on them,

1425
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: and they're really really cool. I think they're super cool. Yeah.

1426
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: I think there's those predatory ambush Predator fish are really cool.

1427
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: I mean they fishing them off the jetties and stuff

1428
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: back in the Sound. I mean they just they hide

1429
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: in the rocks and you just work a swim shad

1430
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:07,280
Speaker 1: down over the rocks and and they just hang there. Man,

1431
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,600
Speaker 1: they wait for bait to just come and they're just

1432
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: that's that's so surprising of you guys talk about it.

1433
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: Where I was associated with hunter plus feet of water,

1434
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: I didn't know they'll come up shell. I've I've got

1435
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: him in Lesson ten. I've caught him right out here,

1436
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: not far from here, in Lesson ten on the opener

1437
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: on the sound. We just fished the jetties. It's like

1438
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: just you you hit the rocks and just work it

1439
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: down the rocks. Jetty. Yeah, I'll be standing on the

1440
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: jetty fishing like the foot of the jetty. Basic. It's

1441
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: a formidable looking fish man freaking fangs in there. There's

1442
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: too Now, there's some footage that you can find online

1443
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,799
Speaker 1: where there's a there's a couple of spires in southeast

1444
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: Alaska where they've closed it as a study area. It's

1445
01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: called like Spires Marine Park at sun or another just

1446
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: a very small area. But he's he's like these sea mounts.

1447
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: They call him Sea Mounts. They were just like a

1448
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: small seamounts. They've closed the fishing just for research purposes.

1449
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: And there's some submersible footage that came from a submersible

1450
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: that went down to one of these spires to film

1451
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: what's going on down there. And there's link cod down there,

1452
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: giants laying touching side by side, so like laying on

1453
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,639
Speaker 1: the rock where they're actually making body contact with another

1454
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 1: with each other, just like spooning. And there's link cod

1455
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 1: that are laying stacked sideways on them, on each other,

1456
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: criss crossing each other. You mean, like no, just everywhere,

1457
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: laying all over land that's like stacked into the good

1458
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: little spots. It's just like it's just not what you

1459
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: picture when you picture what's going on down there in

1460
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: the bottom of the ocean. Everybody, what's the best fishing spot? Yeah,

1461
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: there's Yeah, they crowded in like steelhead fishermen into the zone. Man,

1462
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 1: it's like whatever the current brings stuff behind it doesn't

1463
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: want to be in the spot. Yeah, And so pretty

1464
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 1: quickly we had bam bam, bam, bam bam. We had twelve. Yeah,

1465
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 1: those fish are like ten years old, pretty fast. I

1466
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 1: don't know grow I don't know much about that. Rock

1467
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: fish grow really super slow. Yeah, they have those slow,

1468
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: super slow growers, I know that. And the way they

1469
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: regulate here too. So like I said, it's like north

1470
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 1: you here, you go out and fish Lanecount you're a

1471
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,360
Speaker 1: loud one a day. It's a six week season, you're

1472
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: allowed one a day, and he's got to be between

1473
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: twenty six and thirty six inches. Here, you're allowed to

1474
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,879
Speaker 1: a day. But what they do is they open certain depths,

1475
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 1: so like early season will open you gotta be a

1476
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: you can't fish any deeper than what one twenty something

1477
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:44,320
Speaker 1: like that. And then you get to a certain date

1478
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: and they'll stagger it out and let you go down

1479
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: and fish to like I don't know what, I don't

1480
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: know what it is right now, but they'll let you

1481
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: go to the next depth out and fish to like

1482
01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: an unlimited depth or like another another chunk of depth

1483
01:26:57,120 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: in order to spread out people's pressure angler pressure as

1484
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 1: you go out. But man, just like judging by like

1485
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: the very anecdotal stuff of what happened today, it does

1486
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: not seem like it seems like a pretty well managed fishery.

1487
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: It would be like that, because then the minute we

1488
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:16,440
Speaker 1: get done going after link cod, we go to get rockfish,

1489
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 1: and that was unbelievable. Some of the best I've ever seen.

1490
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: And rock fish, I think it's like in the Pacific,

1491
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: I think there's thirty two different species of rockfish running

1492
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: around upper twenties, just even in Alaska waters, and they

1493
01:27:35,320 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 1: regulate them up there where you have like pelagic and

1494
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: non plagic rockfish, So some rockfish or bottom dwellers that

1495
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,760
Speaker 1: associate with a certain feature and don't move around the

1496
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: whole ton. And then you have your plagic rockfish which

1497
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: roam around in these big schools. And we're getting onto

1498
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 1: plagic rockfish where we're in two feet of water, but

1499
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 1: the school is suspended fifty below the boat from fifty

1500
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: seventy below, and holy ship, that's especially compared to the

1501
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 1: ones that we're catching up at your place. Usually the

1502
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: yellow eyes are big, but the average quill back and

1503
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: whatever else we catch maybe, but like a big dusky, yeah,

1504
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 1: you know you're right, quill backs not nowhere in your

1505
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: tube your average pound. Yeah, But then a yellow eye

1506
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:35,200
Speaker 1: will beat some bruisers. You know, fourteen would be big,

1507
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: I mean not big, but like a normal day out,

1508
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,560
Speaker 1: if you got one those thirteen fourteen pounds, that's a

1509
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: big one. You hear of them, and I think there

1510
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 1: used to be a lot more of them. It would

1511
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: be you know, thirty pounds, thirty five pounds. You hear that,

1512
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: But like typically if you get a fourteen or it's like, wow,

1513
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: that's a bit right. These today we're what on average

1514
01:28:55,960 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: the rock fish yeah, ohee five gray and yellowtail ye

1515
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 1: black black rock fish and yellowtail rock fish and beauties beauties.

1516
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Though some of those yellowtail rock fish had shoulders on them. Man,

1517
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: they were nice. Yeah you want a picture, man, there's

1518
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 1: shaped like a um you imagine like the body shape

1519
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 1: is like a souped up beefy lineback or small mouth

1520
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, small mouth bass yeah, not as like uh

1521
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:34,679
Speaker 1: like wide, let's say, as a large mouth, like wide.

1522
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,400
Speaker 1: If you're looking down at them from at the top

1523
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: of their back, they're not as wide as a large mouth.

1524
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 1: But they're built, you know, profile wise a lot like that.

1525
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, and they're cool too many drop Yeah,

1526
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: you drop it down through the school, and you got

1527
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 1: two hooks on and you drop it down through the school,

1528
01:29:53,439 --> 01:29:54,960
Speaker 1: and as soon as you put the brakes on it,

1529
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 1: then most of the time you're pulling up doubles. We

1530
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: had more double the day. I was shocked how many

1531
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: devils we had. I mean quick, like, you drop it

1532
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: down through that school, you get a bite and it's wham.

1533
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,680
Speaker 1: I think you get that first one, and as you're

1534
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: reeling it up, that little flies dangling or whatever it is,

1535
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 1: buddies going nuts now flies up there dancing around, and

1536
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,639
Speaker 1: the other one's like, oh, what's that? Yeah, don't mind

1537
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:24,720
Speaker 1: if I do. We voted forty plus rock fishing under

1538
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 1: that many minutes. Probably yeah, it was definitely, yeah, I

1539
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 1: would say, oh for sure. And then there you haven't

1540
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: where you got a hundred plus pounds of you got yeah,

1541
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: hundred plus pounds of rock fist laying there. Seven rock

1542
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: fish per person a good limit to linco Man, Yeah

1543
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 1: that was probably what was that a hundred quart uh cooler? Yeah? Right?

1544
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: Did he had back there? Yeah? What's bigger than that?

1545
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: It's a little bigger than not, I think when Oh,

1546
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, so we got twelve and a

1547
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,799
Speaker 1: hold on ice. And then we had that giant cooler

1548
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: completely full of rock fish. You ever see Cheaching Chong's

1549
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,800
Speaker 1: the next movie, Yeah, where it's all about how they

1550
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,679
Speaker 1: got that big duffel bag of weed, the roaming around

1551
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:14,760
Speaker 1: the army duffel bag full of weed, and someone asked,

1552
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna do with it all? And he says he's

1553
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:21,840
Speaker 1: gonna smoke something sell something, parties, party with some it's

1554
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: like that much fish man. Yeah, smoke some Yeah, I'm

1555
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: not gonna sell smoke something. Some smokes them, eat something,

1556
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: party with something. I'm gonna give some out to my neighbors.

1557
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Got a couple of neighbors. Yeah, I don't give them

1558
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 1: like crazy stuff that's hard to deal with. But like

1559
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 1: if I go to my neighbors and uh bring them

1560
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: like a like a link cod fil a, but not

1561
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing, like enough for their family to have

1562
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: a feed off of, that scores big. I get it

1563
01:31:52,439 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: all ready. That's that's a big thing. My old man.

1564
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,320
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, giving away fish and game.

1565
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 1: He do be really care to give it away? We

1566
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 1: have to bring it to neighbors around when I was

1567
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 1: growing up, you know, and to give it away in

1568
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 1: like table ready form, ready to cook. Yeah, you don't

1569
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: like go over and like dump a meat game bag

1570
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: full of hair. You gim a fish some hair in

1571
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 1: a bloody meat bag. You know, you get all nice,

1572
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: man and like it's like to go to your neighbor

1573
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 1: with a hunk of fish or a deer steak or whatever,

1574
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 1: be like this is ready to prepare. Yeah, and what

1575
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 1: you want to do is do this and this. That's

1576
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 1: the way to get neighbors on your side. I've actually

1577
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:38,759
Speaker 1: seen seasoned a filet of fish before for a neighbor

1578
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: that just, you know, it's not accustomed to cooking fish.

1579
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: Throw this on the grill for this many minutes or whatever.

1580
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 1: It's just easy for him. I get some elder than neighbors,

1581
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: neighbors that are working on some hunting permissions with them.

1582
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 1: Shelled some shrimp last time during shrimping season. They'll definitely

1583
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 1: beginning shell shrimp, shell shrimp heads off shelled. But these

1584
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:08,880
Speaker 1: in the pants tam they'll be getting some link maybe

1585
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:14,600
Speaker 1: seasoned it. Yeah, it slow rolling it. It was. It

1586
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: was almost surreal. It's nice to give stuff away, man.

1587
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,720
Speaker 1: I was like called like it like venison diplomacy man,

1588
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: because you can just picture like my neighbors don't hunt

1589
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 1: or you know, barely fish. He pictures someone like brings

1590
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: up like, yeah, I'm damn hunters. Right, They're probably gonna

1591
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,200
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know, I live one next next one.

1592
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 1: He's all right, brings me all kinds of Yeah. It's

1593
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 1: like the dudes at work, they're like, oh, Tommy Hudson, Yeah,

1594
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: he's the one that's always bringing in that pepperoni. Yeah,

1595
01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: he's got some good pepperoni, makes good pepperoni. Yeah, it's

1596
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: good like that. I know a guy like yeah, huts

1597
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: bring pepperoni, pepperoni sticks work. You know, it's like, I

1598
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: don't know image block. I used to live on Never.

1599
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: I love this time of year because I had a boat,

1600
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 1: and I would every time I go out, I dropped

1601
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: four crab pots, go out and I'd fish for coho

1602
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 1: and chinook and come back with salmon filets. And then

1603
01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, you can only eat so many as good

1604
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:21,240
Speaker 1: as Dungeoness crab a is, you can only eat so

1605
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: much of it. I'd shell it form, bring them a

1606
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: little baggy and dungeoness all they got. Oh man, crack

1607
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: it up, cars. I gotta do it for my family anyway,

1608
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: crack it up. Giving my in laws just sit there

1609
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: and just go to work. Man, are you one of

1610
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:38,519
Speaker 1: those dudes? I gotta ask you something. Are you one

1611
01:34:38,520 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: of those dudes that shells your crab up and then

1612
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 1: you eat it as we can maintain our friendship. But

1613
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: my my, my in laws, they paid like the thirty

1614
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: nine dollars a pound for shell crab. So when I

1615
01:34:56,360 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: get a bunch of it to a store, they go

1616
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: down to Pike Place mark it and buy the shell

1617
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,680
Speaker 1: dungeoness crab for forty bucks a pound or whatever it is.

1618
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. So when I get a bunch of crab,

1619
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:15,679
Speaker 1: I cooked, holding cooked crack out of the you know meat. Yeah,

1620
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 1: they do do They do a good job of picking

1621
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: it or you still get little chunks? What do you

1622
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: mean when you buy picked crab meat? Still it's pretty clean,

1623
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: but you still there's some frag and there you get

1624
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 1: some f every once in a while, you do get

1625
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 1: some frag. Yeah. My kids when they're eating crab cakes

1626
01:35:32,479 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: and they find chunks of shell, they always like to

1627
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: point it out to me. You'll get it. Yeah, yeah,

1628
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: it's like getting it. It's like getting a egg shelling

1629
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,720
Speaker 1: and omelet. You don't get any frag. Never heard about it.

1630
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 1: You pick a clean but you gotta hear about it

1631
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: every time. I uh, I like to. I don't mind

1632
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:48,879
Speaker 1: picking a little bit of it and freezing little vacuum

1633
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:52,680
Speaker 1: sealed bags of vacuum sealed bags and pit crab. What

1634
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,760
Speaker 1: I did last year, what someone turned me on too,

1635
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 1: was and I did an experiment. They said to pick

1636
01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: your crab, put in a jar and pour milk over.

1637
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, Lord knows why poor milk over and

1638
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: freeze it, so freeze it in a mason jar in milk.

1639
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 1: So I froze some of that stuff for a year

1640
01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 1: just to see, and recently, uh thought it out drained.

1641
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 1: It made some crab cakes. It was almost as good

1642
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 1: as if you would yeah, very well, very well. I

1643
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: have heard visiting visiting out of town relatives. I've heard

1644
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,840
Speaker 1: the same thing about guys freezing spot prom tails. It's hard.

1645
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't like freeze the freeze them. They freeze them

1646
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: in milk, like you're saying, Yeah, I'd like to try it,

1647
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,280
Speaker 1: because the key to freeze in those things is to

1648
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 1: wash them very thoroughly. Because any of that little rust

1649
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: colored gut liquid that when you pull his tail off,

1650
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: that's stuff. I don't think they freeze that well. But

1651
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 1: I would be interested in trying another strategy. When I

1652
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: get a bunch of those in the freezer, I go

1653
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:02,640
Speaker 1: through them quick. Yeah they're deliciou us go through them

1654
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 1: quick now, this fish. What I'll do is I'll I

1655
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 1: used to like I used to be down on vac seals.

1656
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I used to be down in vacuum bags. And I

1657
01:37:17,720 --> 01:37:19,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it's from using a lot of like

1658
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,519
Speaker 1: low quality vacuum bags, but I'll be down on vacuum

1659
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: bags because I found it so often. I would vacceal

1660
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,639
Speaker 1: something and then a month later, look and it wasn't

1661
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,320
Speaker 1: vack sealed anymore. And I used to think that the

1662
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: bags were bad, that the seals gave out. And what

1663
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,439
Speaker 1: I now realized is that I was treating them too rough,

1664
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: digging around on the freezer in a braiding the bags.

1665
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 1: Or I would be up in my fish shack and

1666
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: we would vac seal fish. And then I just throw

1667
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:52,759
Speaker 1: it on into a cooler right and let it jostle

1668
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 1: around and check it out an airplane and bring it home.

1669
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: And I'd be like, oh, the vacuum bag, they've lost

1670
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: their seal because what you're doing is like banging it

1671
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: around and it makes holes and stuff. And once I

1672
01:38:06,240 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: realized that, um, once I realized that you can eliminate

1673
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,479
Speaker 1: that with careful handling, or to put when you're packing

1674
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 1: them in a fish box of cooler, put a layer down,

1675
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 1: Put a layer of newsprint or something down. Put more

1676
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: in there. I never had problems with it anymore. Now

1677
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 1: when I have accial something, I don't know, something like

1678
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: a better quality bag or what. But when I have

1679
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: actual something out, that thing stays back seal. Yeah, there's

1680
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:38,680
Speaker 1: definitely in different levels. We've used some knockoff brands and

1681
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: the Western ones that we're using now, I was seemed

1682
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: to be a lot, and I used to mess around

1683
01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: where I had, you know, like I don't know, man,

1684
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: like little rinky dink rinky dink bad Steelers that didn't

1685
01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:59,160
Speaker 1: pull a seal. I've definitely had that happen. Yeah, like

1686
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 1: you end up with the old whatever brand that's been

1687
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: sitting in somebody's cupboard that you borrow. Isn't happened to

1688
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: me for a while. And I tried to get through

1689
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: a deer one year by doing it because it was

1690
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 1: just in. It just didn't work out. Yeah, I love

1691
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 1: the one. The one I got now, it's like I

1692
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: keep it on a high shelf, so it's like a

1693
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: they called the Yeah, well it's no. I got a

1694
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:24,000
Speaker 1: chamber ceil. I got like a Western chambers here, which

1695
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:25,479
Speaker 1: I love at my fish shack. But I just have

1696
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: like the model which is heavy right like I keep

1697
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,320
Speaker 1: it on a high shelf and it's like you're getting

1698
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: it down. What's this big heavy thing? But I'm telling

1699
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 1: you what, man, that thing it cranks. I love him now.

1700
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 1: So what I'm getting at now is I'm gonna take

1701
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: these fish home and I'll pad them dry, like I'll

1702
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: rinse it, give it a light rents. I'll actually pat

1703
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 1: that thing dry and get those things already and uh

1704
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: put them in those serving sized things. Zapp him in

1705
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: the seiler lamb in the freezer, and it just looks

1706
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 1: beautiful when you get them all lined up. And I

1707
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: don't freeze fish and water. I used to freeze fishing water.

1708
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: I don't freeze the water. Now. You gotta dry him though,

1709
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: Pad him dry, gotta dry, you know, pad him dry

1710
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 1: and freeze them. And I find that you can get

1711
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 1: away with freeze them longer. Uh freeze fish long with

1712
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 1: the skin off. Why do you think that? Because I've

1713
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 1: just discovered over time, I think there's a lot of

1714
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 1: slime in that skin. And so when I I oftentimes

1715
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 1: freeze fish skin on. And I found it when you

1716
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: pull if you let a fish go too long in

1717
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 1: your freezer and you pull it off and you're like

1718
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 1: like I'm always thinking, like will my wife flag this

1719
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: as skanky? Right, like the way salmon doesn't last that

1720
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: long in a freezer. If if if you pull it

1721
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: out and it's a little skanky, like do a Pepsi

1722
01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 1: challenge and take a skin, a skin salmon, flay, skinned,

1723
01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: wall I flay, skin link cod flay whatever it is.

1724
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 1: And one one with skin off, one with skin on,

1725
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:01,799
Speaker 1: vaccine and both put him in your freezer for five months,

1726
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 1: pull them out and with them and I'm telling you, man,

1727
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 1: that skin one there's there's a layer of fat, and

1728
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 1: there's some slime and maybe there's like it better, So

1729
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna pull it out, and that one with the

1730
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,639
Speaker 1: skin is gonna be skankier than the one without skin.

1731
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: I can see that. I dry the heck out of

1732
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 1: my skin though, like I yeah, I mean I go

1733
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: through rolls of paper towels. If I'm vacuum seeing on

1734
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of fish with skin, and then I put

1735
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 1: meat to meat, so you have skin out, skin out. Yeah,

1736
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: you don't want skin on your flesh. The reason we'll

1737
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 1: do that you have that and see that a long

1738
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: time I keep I'm still eating co hole from last June.

1739
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 1: That's good. The reason will do sometimes we'll freeze salmon

1740
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 1: like that meat to meat skin out is because if

1741
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: you don't have time to pull the pinbones, the pinbone

1742
01:42:01,120 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: can braid the vacuum bags that you pull a good

1743
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: suck on it. Pinbones, Well, you can poke a hole

1744
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: in your back bag and then you think you gotta

1745
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: sweet looking salmon your freezer, and then a week later

1746
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:16,960
Speaker 1: it's not because the pinbone ruptured the thing. Yeah, any bone,

1747
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,639
Speaker 1: you can do it careful. But I have a pair

1748
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 1: of nine dollar Japanese bone pickers. Like the world's greatest

1749
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:25,640
Speaker 1: book I ever made. I can't tell you what it's called.

1750
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 1: I can't read Japanese. My broody brought me a Japanese

1751
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 1: fish cleaning book from Japan. There's not a fish on

1752
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: the plant that's not in this book. I'm surprised to's

1753
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 1: not how to clean a whale shark in this book.

1754
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: Like everything is in this book, man from everything is

1755
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,640
Speaker 1: in this book breakdown on how to do it. And

1756
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: I noticed this guy is always using these like special

1757
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: bone picking players. So I bought these these souped up

1758
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:54,639
Speaker 1: Japanese bone pickers for nine bucks. I love those things

1759
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: where but I found him on Amazon. They just got

1760
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 1: They're just like a needle nose with just flatten. It's

1761
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:03,680
Speaker 1: like a fingernail clipper but not but strong. And it's

1762
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 1: why you can pluck two three out of time when

1763
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: you're pulling po Yeah, and I keep that in a

1764
01:43:09,680 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 1: special corner of a special drawer. How does jes needle

1765
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 1: know this? But that sounds like it's no, you need

1766
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:24,720
Speaker 1: that Japanese bone pickers? Anything else? Good stuff? Now? Great day,

1767
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 1: you got any dad? You didn't say any about our

1768
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: fishing trip. You didn't have any fun? Oh my goodness, gracious.

1769
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 1: Trying to take care of my arms from all that cranking,

1770
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: all that cranking, that's my that's my one great because

1771
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 1: I only like to use light tackle because it because

1772
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,720
Speaker 1: because the sports like it. Sure, but I wouldn't have

1773
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have my own jack and

1774
01:43:43,520 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 1: rod where I like, where there's a better It was

1775
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: a little bit thicker, right, just a little heavier, a

1776
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: little bit heavier, maybe just a touch. Big freaking dragons, mane.

1777
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: You know you're out them out you're two of water.

1778
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: And that's that reel is kind of twisting. Yeah, I

1779
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,599
Speaker 1: kind of want something I can really get some purchase

1780
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:05,439
Speaker 1: on with my with my hand up front, I feel

1781
01:44:05,439 --> 01:44:08,839
Speaker 1: like I'm sneaking my hand up the up the blank itself,

1782
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 1: off the grip on the front, try to get some

1783
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 1: torque on that thing, and like change up my grip,

1784
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,439
Speaker 1: like I just need I need some purchase up my

1785
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 1: main jigg and rod. The widow Maker has front. The

1786
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 1: front grip on the widow Maker is like holding the

1787
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: beer bottle. And man, you can horse up some fish

1788
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:29,960
Speaker 1: with that thing, man, because it's it's got a soft

1789
01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 1: foamy thing. And then you got a big handle like

1790
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 1: a dial. Hand. I got this like a like a

1791
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 1: dial with level wine that you can grab onto that

1792
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:42,639
Speaker 1: and you can grab that grip and when it's time

1793
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,120
Speaker 1: to get it done and get a fish up off,

1794
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 1: you know, sucking them up off two water. It's just

1795
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:53,200
Speaker 1: very comfortable. How long is it? Wong? Yeah, Like I

1796
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:54,760
Speaker 1: feel like I'd like to mention the name of the

1797
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: charter guys again because again, yeah, yeah, I know they

1798
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,800
Speaker 1: were dialed. I like those guys quite a bit, man. Yeah,

1799
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: They're just good. It's great boat and great places. It

1800
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 1: seemed like it might be a little underutilized. I don't know,

1801
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: all rivers and saltwater saltwater charters, all rivers and saltwater charters.

1802
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 1: And it was Ian and Nick. Yeah, And I don't know,

1803
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 1: like if those dudes couldn't go, I don't know that

1804
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: I would uh say, like, don't only go because like

1805
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: you have to you kind of think that that you

1806
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: like the hope that the company in general Foster's that

1807
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of absolutely like I don't know, maybe it was

1808
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: a fluke that those guys are so cool to hang

1809
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:40,839
Speaker 1: out with, but you like to think that the company

1810
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 1: in general Foster's that kind of relationship because it was

1811
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,879
Speaker 1: like fishing with dudes that you would normally fish with exactly.

1812
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't something blow hard, you know, screaming at because

1813
01:45:51,360 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 1: you had some sunscreen on your hand and touch his

1814
01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:55,559
Speaker 1: rod or something that we had the other boat pull

1815
01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 1: up next to us and you know, talking on the

1816
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 1: radio with and and uh yeah, they weren't catching nearly

1817
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,680
Speaker 1: the amount of fish that we were catching, but they

1818
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: were trying to do something different. But they were having

1819
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:09,840
Speaker 1: a great time. They were had a good time, but

1820
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: they were trying to salmon snea. Yeah, they were rock. Yeah,

1821
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,680
Speaker 1: they were doing a combo trip, salmon, rock fish. But

1822
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: they seem like they totally looked like they were having

1823
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:21,000
Speaker 1: a good time though. Yeah, So I think regardless is

1824
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 1: just a good operation. Yeah. If I was gonna tell

1825
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 1: someone in this zone, like if I was gonna tell

1826
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: someone within a day's drive or whatever, if they want

1827
01:46:28,479 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 1: to do like a meat run, yeah, very good meat run. Yeah,

1828
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 1: I would be like I would go out and say,

1829
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: like I would go out, hope for the right weather

1830
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: and go out and do the line cod, rockfish. Yeah. Yeah.

1831
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,320
Speaker 1: Far as far as having like you know, years worth

1832
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: of fish tacos, we got that covered. Like you can

1833
01:46:51,160 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 1: catch salmon and steelhead and all that stuff and rivers.

1834
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: If if you want closer to home, man, you're gonna

1835
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: run to the coast man, take a rock fish, my

1836
01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:03,479
Speaker 1: little boy, he's like nowhere. Once you realized you can't

1837
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 1: like see the beach. Yeah, And we saw an ocean

1838
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 1: we forgot. We saw an oceanic sunfish that was and

1839
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,799
Speaker 1: a seal that was having some issues, a dying seal,

1840
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: baby seal blind fishing trip of his life eight years.

1841
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: I take a little bit offense to that. Uh, he's

1842
01:47:26,479 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: had some good days on the water. He really liked it. Um,

1843
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,240
Speaker 1: I liked it. Seeing the oceanic sunfish is cool. So

1844
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 1: it's like a big weird fish. They're like round with

1845
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 1: a fin on top of the bottom. They kind of

1846
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:39,000
Speaker 1: lay on their side or lay up right and cruise

1847
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,840
Speaker 1: the world's ocean feeding on jellyfish at the surface. I

1848
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 1: did not I always wondered what they're on the top.

1849
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 1: They were like and that Like, yeah, that fish could

1850
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 1: turn up in Hawaii. Yeah, that's amazing. They just roam around. Man,

1851
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 1: they gotta get hit by boats all the time. So

1852
01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 1: that was cool. Saw a seal that has some seri

1853
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:05,799
Speaker 1: his problems, like an emaciated baby seal not quite totally

1854
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 1: close to death, but maybe leaning in that direction eventually

1855
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: he's he was weird. I've never seen a seal with

1856
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:17,160
Speaker 1: barnacles on it. Like. He wasn't doing too good. Yeah,

1857
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,680
Speaker 1: he was just kind of rolling around. Anything else any

1858
01:48:19,680 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 1: other highlights, No, just good company, always good traveling. Lots

1859
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: of fish, but none was knighte. So the dude had

1860
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: to clean all that fish. Yeah, he was a rock

1861
01:48:30,080 --> 01:48:33,240
Speaker 1: fish and he was pretty handy. But I mean I

1862
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 1: felt bad. I just like stay. I don't like I

1863
01:48:36,200 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 1: get uncomfortable staying around watching someone work. Yeah, I do too.

1864
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: That's an awkward situation. So here he is cleaning. He

1865
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 1: was handy with that. Those situations. They'd rather have you

1866
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 1: out of their way than trying to help. So yeah,

1867
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,160
Speaker 1: and he'd rather, I think, do the work and make

1868
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,960
Speaker 1: the extra extra cash. Yeah, then you're trying to pay

1869
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 1: him thirty eight. Bam, you cleaned four? Yea four? Yeah?

1870
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Probably why brings one flame. Yeah, there's anyway. Yeah, I

1871
01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: noticed they had to sign up to that said if

1872
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: you lost your ride, you gotta pay for it, which

1873
01:49:16,840 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 1: could have hit me and Jimmy darn here. I guess

1874
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: you paid for that one though. We were out trolling

1875
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 1: salmon on uh Jimmy Darren's boat on July three. He

1876
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,679
Speaker 1: keeps the boat moored in Seattle, and he had bought

1877
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:34,120
Speaker 1: his wife, his girlfriend. You gotta marry her more than likely. Sure,

1878
01:49:34,160 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: I think you should. I've met both. I've met both

1879
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 1: of you, alright, I met both of you. And she's

1880
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: very tallerant. Let's just put it down. So he for Christmas,

1881
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: he buys her fishing rod, which she doesn't want anyways. No,

1882
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: it's barely if there's any weather at all, she's just sick.

1883
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: So he's like, you know, I really thought about us

1884
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 1: and thought about you, and I've been thinking a lot

1885
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: about what you need, you know, what I can bring

1886
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:04,200
Speaker 1: to this. And I botched his fish pole and we're

1887
01:50:04,280 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 1: fighting to fish and look my kids there. It's a

1888
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: little bit chaotic for a second. And he's working on

1889
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 1: a rod and lays the rod on the roof of

1890
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 1: the boat that moved it out of the way, and

1891
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: I just laid it on the on They just trying

1892
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,280
Speaker 1: to net this. He's trying to net a king that

1893
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 1: we had and all of a sudden, net rod into

1894
01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: the drink. Done. So he's like gonna jump in and like,

1895
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: no digitility lost it? Or do you just so, how's

1896
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 1: my fishing rod? And she's not gonna ask. Oh, it's fine,

1897
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: it's right there because I gotta go up to John's

1898
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: and everybody Jimmy high and I've been looking high for

1899
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: the fishing rod you purchased me for Christmas and me

1900
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: and my girlfriends are going to go on a trip

1901
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 1: next week. Yeah, but it's a sucky feeling to watch

1902
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:51,639
Speaker 1: a few hundred bucks sink to the bottle and here,

1903
01:50:51,960 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: you know that thing had never even been on a

1904
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,519
Speaker 1: down rigger. It had never been fished. I had rigged

1905
01:50:55,560 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: it for the very first time that day because I

1906
01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 1: was having additional people on the boat, and it was

1907
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 1: just irony. And it's the calm of it all, because

1908
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 1: let's be straight, I was, you know, it's Christmas, and

1909
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:06,799
Speaker 1: I was a little jammed up. And we've been together

1910
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: long enough to buying presence has become fairly problematic because

1911
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: we've already bought everything. And and I saw the fishing

1912
01:51:13,960 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 1: around him, like she's not gonna give a shit about

1913
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: the thing, but like, but it's just more wrapped up

1914
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,280
Speaker 1: crap under the tree, and I'm trying to keep it

1915
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,240
Speaker 1: even because she just goes so overboard every year with Christmas.

1916
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 1: Oh you're trying to stack it to make it look

1917
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:29,120
Speaker 1: like you bott It's like when I thought, well, maybe

1918
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 1: she might use it. I mean, at some point, you want,

1919
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 1: if we get a day like we had today on

1920
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 1: the water where it's just nothing, sure she'd you know,

1921
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: she'll go fishing with me if it's if we have

1922
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,360
Speaker 1: conditions like we had today. But you know the reality

1923
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know, pressure have backup brought on

1924
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 1: that bone. You know, a yoga mat. That is the

1925
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 1: perfect perfect now that italy on the head, So yeah,

1926
01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not gonna let her listen to this one.

1927
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,720
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was a good day. We cough

1928
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: fish awesome. Yeah it's it's one of the greatest things

1929
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: about where we live is you know, in Seattle, it's

1930
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:13,479
Speaker 1: I could be on my couch and I like, I

1931
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,720
Speaker 1: keep my boat more than sheeld shoal, and I could

1932
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:18,360
Speaker 1: literally be on the couch some many calls where I

1933
01:52:18,360 --> 01:52:20,120
Speaker 1: get a wild hair, and I could have down riggers

1934
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:22,760
Speaker 1: in the water and thirty forty minutes. Yeah, when I

1935
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 1: was trying to I was trying to talk you into

1936
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: moving back to Montana with me. You said that they

1937
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: don't troll salmon. You don't know. My boat won't do

1938
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: a whole lot there. I told you can go there

1939
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 1: and troll big old nasty brown's up out a reservoir. Yea, yeah,

1940
01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: it's a big old nasty muddy taste and brown pretty

1941
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 1: good lately, I'll tell you that much. You got any

1942
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 1: final thoughts, I didn't make correction before someone emails in

1943
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 1: about my reverse slot. I think I'm just tired and

1944
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 1: I was thinking backwards because We had a day last

1945
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 1: year where we were catching on both sides of the

1946
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 1: slot and having to throw them back because you weren't slot. Yeah,

1947
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 1: it was a slot. So it's just eighteen and twenty seven.

1948
01:53:00,479 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 1: You gotta be within the slab. No sea sickness today

1949
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, I took jama mean, but you know

1950
01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:09,759
Speaker 1: it looked like you took something. Yeah, but you can't.

1951
01:53:10,240 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 1: Today is not a day to test that. I can't

1952
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: say it worked because it was so slick. It was

1953
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 1: like being out on a lake in Michigan. You know,

1954
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,600
Speaker 1: I lost, like we talked, was four but fishing with

1955
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 1: you out when you've had sea sickness, I find myself

1956
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 1: like usually just have nothing but love for you. And

1957
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:25,800
Speaker 1: every time I look at you, I'm like, oh yeah,

1958
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 1: but that day watching you all like disinterested and sick

1959
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,720
Speaker 1: and everything I looked at smn like kick you off

1960
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 1: the boat. I just like I was like one of

1961
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:38,719
Speaker 1: those people that relies on uh, I like need your strength,

1962
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,200
Speaker 1: and seeing you at that and then seeing you at

1963
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: less than that, it wasn't like love came up. That

1964
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:49,600
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I can only I realized that my

1965
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:52,560
Speaker 1: love for him is very shallow, very shallow, and it

1966
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: relies on him being like eager, eager, attentive, anticipating what's

1967
01:53:58,080 --> 01:53:59,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen next. But to see him just like weak

1968
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 1: end and all sick and not paying attention. He was

1969
01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 1: had a fish on and he wasn't even aware of

1970
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 1: it at one point, I think, and I was like,

1971
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 1: oh man, yeah, get out. It's like you make me sick.

1972
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: Your sickness makes me sick, Tony any final thoughts, I

1973
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:23,760
Speaker 1: don't really feel that way about Yah. I mean I

1974
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:26,599
Speaker 1: did for a minute, but then I caught myself. Yeah,

1975
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:29,360
Speaker 1: I got it. That was a great day. I mean,

1976
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 1: we couldn't have hit a better day on the water.

1977
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:37,520
Speaker 1: So fantastic. I know we're telling people, we're telling all

1978
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 1: these blugs to go out, like telling people you should

1979
01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:43,879
Speaker 1: go do this trip. Watch like just like yeah, everybody's

1980
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: still Yeah, you gotta put it stuck to your hand.

1981
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: It does not get any better than it got. Today's

1982
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 1: too rough. Yeah, it's too rough to piss, so you

1983
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 1: gotta go on your pants. Yeah. Yeah it's great. Yeah,

1984
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:03,880
Speaker 1: it's excellent. Great place. You're looking to dig into that

1985
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: grizzly I am. I guess my concluder is to this

1986
01:55:08,120 --> 01:55:10,840
Speaker 1: so nice. It's like, maybe it's not so nice for

1987
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: the people live here in Westport, but it's mill of

1988
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: July summer and it's quiet here. Yeah. Great. It feels

1989
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: like like used to have more activity than it does now.

1990
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 1: It did when I was, like, we spent a lot

1991
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: of time camping here as a kid man. Like even

1992
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 1: just driving down the main drag of this place is

1993
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: like a like a trip past year old high school,

1994
01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 1: like camping with my folks and donate and tackle on

1995
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:40,400
Speaker 1: all the local jettys and running my old man out

1996
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: of five dollar bills for extra tackle. It's just like

1997
01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: it's crazy, and like I remember mornings. I've said this

1998
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,000
Speaker 1: a couple of times on this little trip, but like

1999
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,120
Speaker 1: I remember mornings where you go down to that little

2000
01:55:52,160 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: main drag where all the charter boats were and it

2001
01:55:55,800 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 1: was shoulders shoulder, guys, it was just just hustle and bustle,

2002
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:06,200
Speaker 1: like it was afternoon. And now it's like, you know,

2003
01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 1: you guys saw it this morning. There's a few people.

2004
01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: It's sleepy, you describe. Yeah, you know, we we all. Yeah,

2005
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:15,120
Speaker 1: it's just not what it once was. And it's like

2006
01:56:16,240 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: why do too? Part of its kind of sad, Yeah,

2007
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 1: part of me sad, you know, and in a selfish way,

2008
01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: I like it, I agree, But part of me sad

2009
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:30,200
Speaker 1: because I knew what it once was, and like how

2010
01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:32,840
Speaker 1: many different even charter boat companies there were for the

2011
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: big boats, and it's like now they're down to two.

2012
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 1: I think I think there was at least five or six.

2013
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: Now they're down to two companies. You know, probably I

2014
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 1: don't know handful of boats commercial, but it's right, yeah,

2015
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: it's it's and I don't know what it's co credited too,

2016
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:54,640
Speaker 1: but it's like I don't know, Like get your bus

2017
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 1: to Westport. Yeah, take your asses, fishing man, it's worth it. Remember,

2018
01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 1: like move and out in this area, you know. And

2019
01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 1: my wife, you know, because you know, you'd like to fantasize.

2020
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,080
Speaker 1: Oh maybe we'll buy a cabin wherever. I remember her

2021
01:57:08,120 --> 01:57:09,320
Speaker 1: being like, oh we should get a cabin out in

2022
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: the sand. Muans I'll be like, screw that, man, go

2023
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 1: out to the coast and get a place. Coast coast, Yeah,

2024
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 1: the coast coast coast, the real one. Yeah, anything else, anyone,

2025
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:24,160
Speaker 1: do you have anything else? I can't wait to get

2026
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 1: home and eat some fish. Man. I'm gonna make some

2027
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: killer fish tops tomorrow when you're sitting back in Montana,

2028
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:34,480
Speaker 1: far from the ocean, half your house, half your house,

2029
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,800
Speaker 1: missing work on your big where you work on your

2030
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,040
Speaker 1: big addition, eating some fish, cooking on the camp taste

2031
01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 1: of the ocean. I've been camping out, you know, So

2032
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 1: I've been making a lot of meals that make a

2033
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 1: very camping in his house, you know, small footprint, right,

2034
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: Like somehow I got talked into making pancakes the other

2035
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,880
Speaker 1: day and then I just freaking battery everywhere. I'm like,

2036
01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 1: who was thinking about this? Not thinking about doing the dishes,

2037
01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,400
Speaker 1: but so I was like frying ship was off off

2038
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:04,680
Speaker 1: the table, but not anymore. I'll pay for the extra dishes.

2039
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:11,080
Speaker 1: You gotta grill outside. It's the prep like breading and

2040
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know, dealing with the oil afterwards. Remember

2041
01:58:17,720 --> 01:58:19,080
Speaker 1: are you still doing that? By the way, And do

2042
01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 1: you feel like it's paying off filtering your oil? Yeah,

2043
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:25,839
Speaker 1: I've been filter mile and it's it's paying a huge difference,

2044
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: huge difference because I run peanut oil and you start

2045
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 1: feeling like a moron filling that friar up with peano

2046
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: and when you gotta yeah, man, I get it warm.

2047
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: Five seven bucks of gallons. I bring it up warm

2048
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,600
Speaker 1: enough to where I like to break down the viscosity

2049
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know why. How do to do?

2050
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 1: Get it warm? Run it through that Uh, that synthetic

2051
01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: filter comes out looking like I don't know, light honey,

2052
01:58:54,200 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: lighter and light honey looks like urine hydrated. You know,

2053
01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't started putting that cookbooks. I get some piss

2054
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 1: colored oil, all right, thanks for joining