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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Huddle Podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New

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Speaker 1: York Football Giants. I am John Schmilk. You might recognize

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Speaker 1: this handsome guy in the screen with me. He's joined

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Speaker 1: us every a couple of years, every year rather the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years, to talk about the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: He is Chad Ryder. He of course covers the NFL

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Speaker 1: Draft for NFL dot Com NFL Media. A four round

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Speaker 1: mock is his most recent one on the old interwebs.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and a whole lot more, Chad.

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Speaker 1: We always get a chance to catch up with the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl and the combine, and always great to have

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Speaker 1: our yearly chat about the draft with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where's this uh, good looking guy you're talking about it?

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Speaker 2: I don't see back there. I appreciate the invite to

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Speaker 2: come on, and it's always fun to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, and I love talking with you. We had

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Speaker 1: your colleague Eric at home on a little bit earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week, and it was kind of our reset

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Speaker 1: to transition from free agency back towards the drafts. We

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Speaker 1: hit a lot of the bigger topics that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people want to talk about. We're gonna dig more

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Speaker 1: into the weeds here with Chad, which I think is

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Speaker 1: perfect given his penchets for four round max, three round max.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about some Day two and Day three guys

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Speaker 1: here as well, but Chad, let's talk about the top

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Speaker 1: and just generally speaking, this is a great year for

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Speaker 1: me to have a top ten pick. You have so

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Speaker 1: many what I would consider players that would be selected

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Speaker 1: which I think is pretty unique. It's a very good

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Speaker 1: year because it's so top heavy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, even guys like you know coming into it.

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Speaker 2: I remember I did a show like six weeks ago

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Speaker 2: or so before the combine, like, why did JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 2: he's really talented, and I think by the time you

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Speaker 2: like quinn Ewers from Texas went back, because there's there's

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Speaker 2: the receivers that are up there. On it's a great

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Speaker 1: How much action do you think there's going to be

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Speaker 1: ahead of the Giants with these teams trying to come

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Speaker 1: up ahead of them to pick a quarterback, And if

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Speaker 1: the Giants do want one of those top four quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: my sense is that they're not going to be able

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Arizona. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: Simply from a grade standpoint, Chad in terms of how

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Speaker 2: For you, I would say probably fourth in terms of

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Speaker 2: You know, these talented quarterbacks are very talented. They all

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Speaker 1: How do you sort and separate those top four quarterbacks out?

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Speaker 1: How much separates the top three wideouts for you? Are

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Speaker 2: I think Harrison and Neighbors are just slightly higher than

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Speaker 2: So that that's kind of it. If you want, if

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's tough, He as fast as he proved

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Speaker 2: Harrison's got that that Randy Moss kind of feel to him, right.

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Speaker 2: He's a deep threat, you go up and get the ball.

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Speaker 1: So with them just ahead, Yeah, I think we're on

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Speaker 2: And I think they're actually fairly similar players. So I

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny watching Worthy and I kind of

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Speaker 1: coming into the year, I thought, besides the drops last year,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think part of it is what you said.

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Speaker 2: They're they're playing a lot of deep coverage over him.

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Speaker 2: and Texas had a lot of success with that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: And hey, with this new kickoff rule, I'm sticking that

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Speaker 1: His combine testing was a lot better than I thought

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Speaker 1: Yea, and the Giants have a one Del Robinson that

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, NFL Media All Right, Chad, Let's stick

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Speaker 1: here in Day two, we did a lot of the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Koolid McKinstry could be around at forty seven.

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Speaker 1: You gotta you think they're outside guys or slot guys.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he's a guy. If he somehow

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Speaker 1: Wow. I like that. And and and you think he's

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Speaker 2: Can play both. I think he can play all over

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Speaker 1: He'd be I know side Now, we haven't seen TJ

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Speaker 1: Do you have any deep sleepers at corner that you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bigger, bigger, longer corner if teams are looking for

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Speaker 1: Uh your thoughts on the group overall, and any of

433
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: these guys jump out at you as a potential Day

434
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 1: two pick for the Giants. Try to replace David McKinney.

435
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,200
Speaker 2: To me, like the top guys probably Cooper de Gene

436
00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240
Speaker 2: And I know some people put him at corner, which

437
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 2: is fine, but to me, he's sort of a nickel safety.

438
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 2: He can go on the slot. He's sort of like

439
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: Brian Branch to me last year, and he went in

440
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: the middle of the second round of versatility. You know,

441
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 2: we haven't seen Degene work out yet. You know, we'll

442
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,080
Speaker 2: have to see how that how he does and his

443
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 2: workout to see if he's really as fast as people

444
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 2: say he is or not. But either way, he's a

445
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,639
Speaker 2: really good football player, and I think he might be

446
00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 2: the first guy off the board that you could consider

447
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,200
Speaker 2: a safety. I love Javon Bullard from Georgia.

448
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 1: He reminds me of Branch a little bit right safety spot.

449
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:24,480
Speaker 1: He can do a little bit of both.

450
00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: He can do a little bit of everything as well,

451
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: that's right, and so he's in that category. Jayden Hicks

452
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 2: could go top fifty for like the Colts or somebody

453
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,680
Speaker 2: like that. They if they want. I think I've projected

454
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: him to the Giants before too. I mean, he's got

455
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,639
Speaker 2: such good size, he can work in the box. He

456
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 2: wasn't bad as a free I think he's best kind

457
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,399
Speaker 2: of in the boxing near line of scrimmage. But but

458
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 2: he made some plays deep as well. So I think

459
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 2: just that that size, aggressive nature. You know, he's a

460
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: good player as well. So those are the guys that

461
00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,359
Speaker 2: I think are really the second round values.

462
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like Bullard a lot. I think you know,

463
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: the slot position, Chad, as you know, is becoming more

464
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: and more important the National Football League these days, as

465
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: teams put their best receiver there often and you need

466
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: a guy that can support against the run when you're

467
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 1: basically playing nickel as your base defense. It's just become

468
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,679
Speaker 1: a very important position to have a guy in there

469
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: that could do a little bit of everything. What do

470
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: you think of kaln Bullock at a USC You know,

471
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: he looks like a corner, he wants he tracks the

472
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: ball well, he probably has better ball skills than any

473
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: other safety in the draft. But then you see him

474
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 1: come up and try to tackle and you're like.

475
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, he's a safety, that's right, that's the issue. Well, look,

476
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: that's a guy may fall because of that, but you

477
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: can again, a team puts him in the right position.

478
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they put him in the slot, you know, maybe

479
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 2: maybe maybe they use him in only a certain situations,

480
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: dime packages or whatever to make use of his skill

481
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: set the best that they can. So he may go.

482
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: He may go early fourth round, you know that that

483
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: might be where he ends up, just because because of that.

484
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: But in terms of his potential down the road, if

485
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: you give him some time, I think he has some

486
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: and I think he could work in the right situation.

487
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: Ham Kitchens is interesting and I'm gonna turn this into

488
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,240
Speaker 1: a bigger conversation because I think it's tape solid right,

489
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: but the testing not so much. How important is safety

490
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: testing to you, chat or is this more of a

491
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: see it react quickly instinct position head more than it

492
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: is time speed?

493
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: Honestly, I think in most situations, Look, he's not a

494
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: guy that you're gonna want. If you're playing cover three

495
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 2: or single deep, whatever, you don't want him in that position.

496
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: But if you're a team that switches up guys a

497
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: lot in terms of free and put him in the box,

498
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: you like the versatility and you want a guy coming downhill.

499
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: That's the guy I want, and I and I really

500
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: like him as a downhill guy. You could play him

501
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: at the second level when you're in you know, defense

502
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 2: on third down. You play him at the second level.

503
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 2: You can blitz him, you can take the slot. He

504
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 2: can do a lot of things. As long as he's

505
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: coming downhill and attacking the ball, he'll be fine. So

506
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 2: day two guy will probably work himself into a starter

507
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: at some point early in his career. But yeah, I mean,

508
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: he's just not a guy that you want to play

509
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: a lot or cover two with.

510
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: You.

511
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: You want him, you know, trying to cover all the

512
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: tough because it might be sort of difficult for him.

513
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 1: All right, let's do one more defensive spot here before

514
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: we jump back the offense. Here, Chad defensive tackle. I

515
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 1: think we're probably only gonna see one, maybe two straight

516
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: up defensive tackles in round one, and Johnny Newton and

517
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy, and then I think you have some interesting

518
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: players in rounds two and three that are are kind

519
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: of stereotypes of their position. Right, you got the quicker two,

520
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: quicker three technique guys, and in Fisk and Hall you

521
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: have Tovandre Sweat, who's your nose tackle and then you

522
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: have some kind of dude old guys and you know

523
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: Rouco ro ro Ro guys like that. So your thoughts

524
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: on the day two defensive tackle class if the Giants

525
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: want to go there or try to replace Leonard Williams.

526
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're looking at Mason Smith's really interesting

527
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: out of LSU.

528
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: Was on his shoulders are like this, he's walking around,

529
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: He's freaking gigantic.

530
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: He wasn't super per active this year, but he's one

531
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 2: of He's a sneaky good athlete in that Austin Johnson

532
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: sort of you know mold, So that could be a

533
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: guy that they want to look for. He can play

534
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: some five technique as well as play inside because of

535
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,120
Speaker 2: that athleticism in size. So he's a real interesting guy

536
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: in the second round. I think that that they're going

537
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: to be looking for. I love to and Andre Sweat.

538
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: He is not.

539
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: He didn't work out like Jordan Davis, so he's not

540
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 2: going to have that kind of you know grade. But

541
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 2: a guy that went you know a few years ago

542
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 2: now was Terran Terrence mount Cody out of out of Alabama.

543
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: But Sweat is a better athlete than him. And he

544
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 2: doesn't have to play a lot of people are projecting

545
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: Sweat as a as a three four nose tackle, but

546
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: he doesn't have to do that. He played plenty of

547
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: four man fronts with Texas and he can he can

548
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: shoot a gap at that size and he is a

549
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: problem one on one, and so I think a team

550
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: in the second round is going to find really good

551
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: value with with him as well. He's not just a

552
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 2: run plumber. He can can really get aware and a

553
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: couple other guys we didn't talk or you didn't mention.

554
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: Brandon Dorless out of Oregon is really interesting because he

555
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: really plays more like a five technique, But I think

556
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: I think a team will try him at three just

557
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: to see if he can really explode off the ball

558
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: and utilize that quickness and the way he can see

559
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 2: the ball in the backfield. I think he'll be really

560
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: interesting as a three technique if if a team doesn't

561
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: take him and want to keep him outside, which is

562
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: possible as well.

563
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 1: Yea and Darius Robinson kind of in that same category, right,

564
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: guys that can maybe be a four to three traditional

565
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: lend or maybe in passing situation move into the three

566
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: technique a little bit.

567
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe. And you know what's funny about Robinson is

568
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: that I think a team like Detroit and Tampa Bay

569
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 2: will stand him up even at two hundred and eighty pounds,

570
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 2: and I think he has that kind of ability. So

571
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: that's kind of where I see him going. The last

572
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: guy just want to mention quick as Christian Boyd Northern Iowa.

573
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: Look this guy, he was a really good football player.

574
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: He's gonna play the Noah's one technique and he's gonna

575
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: stay the line of scrimmage eight moving, and he's got

576
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: some hustle to him. So if you get that guy

577
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: in the third round, he's gonna be a contributor right away.

578
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. They they had trouble blocking him down at don

579
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: at Frisco at the Shrine game. Two guys you didn't mention.

580
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious. Chris Jenkins was a guy that was highly touted,

581
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: the production never showed up. And then you mentioned Mason Smith.

582
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: I want to throw out Mackay Wingo, his teammate lsu.

583
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: I thought his tape was fun.

584
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Wingo, unfortunately the injury this year really

585
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: kind of set him back, and I was a little

586
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: surprised he came out. But look, he's not huge, he's

587
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: not super athletic, so there's nothing quote special about him.

588
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,479
Speaker 2: But when I really like Wingo because he does get

589
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 2: after it on every play. He does not even he

590
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: came back for the bowl game, he was clearly not

591
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, but he went out there gave it

592
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: every snap. He's a problem every snap for his guy.

593
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: So in the middle of the draft somewhere you find

594
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 2: a guy like that that's gonna make more plays than

595
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 2: you think, even though he's not especially or specially fast

596
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: or anything special. But I like him as a football

597
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: player in the mid rounds and Jenkins, you want to

598
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: see more from him. You know, it's just but it's

599
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: not as though. You know, a lot of defensive tackles

600
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: that maybe aren't productive are considered quote lazy, And I

601
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: don't think that's the issue with him. I don't know

602
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: if he has I don't think that's the issue at all.

603
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 2: I think it's not quite as quick twitch as some

604
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: other guys. And so if you if you ask him

605
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: to hold the line of scrimmage and to move back

606
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 2: and you know, keep it, keep it within the box,

607
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 2: he will do that, and he will eat space and

608
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: the occasionally he'll get through and he doesn't make the

609
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 2: play as like as much as if you like once

610
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: he gets through that gap, but he will get through.

611
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 2: So as a rotational guy, he's gonna stick in the

612
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: league for a while.

613
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Speaker 1: All right, John, let's ship what an offense. Who's the

619
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: first running back that's gonna get paid?

620
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks. This is my new this is my new

621
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: theory of the day.

622
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: So you get to hear this front.

623
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Speaker 2: Let me hear Okay. So on my next mock draft,

624
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: which I'm gonna put in next week, it's a five rounder,

625
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: and I think I'm gonna have Jonathan Brooks going to

626
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 2: Dallas in the first round.

627
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: And I think the noise man people in Dallas keep

628
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: saying Brooks, Brooks, Brooks.

629
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: And I think the comparison is Todd Gurley and Todd

630
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: Gurley had a knee injury in November of his final

631
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: year at Georgia and he came back and you know,

632
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: he was the number in Brams made him the number

633
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: ten pick in the Drafft, which was too high, but

634
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,479
Speaker 2: he was a first round pick after coming back from

635
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 2: a knee injury, you know, just six months earlier. And

636
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: the way it sounds, everything sounds like Brooks is on

637
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: track to be back in playing at some level this summer.

638
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, and Dallas, he's writing, he's

639
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: writing Dallas's area there, so they know all about what

640
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: he's going through. If they think he's gonna be ready

641
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: to go, they're gonna take him. And I think he's

642
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: a fantastic back. He's really got like a lot of

643
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor a lot. He's like power, but he's got

644
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: some speed. And any dude that rushes for thirty five

645
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: hundred yards as a high school senior year, he's a

646
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: dude regardless. But no, but he was so good at

647
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: Texas before the injury. He catched the ball in the backfield.

648
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: He's so good. So I think Dallas is going to

649
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: be picking him, probably in the first round, assuming everything

650
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: is good with with the injury.

651
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Second round you mean second round?

652
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: No, No, I mean first round.

653
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Really, you think you think in the first round they

654
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: might go Brooks.

655
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because because that's the kind of that's what

656
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: I understand is the situation there. And I, like I said,

657
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: typically I wouldn't say that about guy who's coming off

658
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: knee injury like that, but it just reminds me so

659
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: much of Gurley coming off and and Gurley had that

660
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: same injury, and that dude, I don't know exactly how

661
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 2: many carries he had in his first four years, but

662
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: it was a thousand carries. I mean it was a lot.

663
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Curently had a lot of carries in his first four years,

664
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: even after that injury. And Dallas has learned its lesson,

665
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: I think with giving second contracts to running back. So

666
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: they get they get this guy first contract, they take

667
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: them and I think that's the surprise pick I'm gonna

668
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: go with in my next monk.

669
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: And Brooks has barely run the ball, right, I mean yeah,

670
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: he was behind Rashawn Johnson, he was behind John Robinson. Like,

671
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: he has not run the ball at all, so he

672
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: should have a lot of tread left on those tires,

673
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: that's right.

674
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 2: So and Dallas is the only team that I would

675
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 2: see doing that. You know, I don't. I don't know

676
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: every other team would do that, but I could really

677
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: see Dallas doing that and and really getting their guy

678
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: right off the bat.

679
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched Brooks and Benson this morning and Trey

680
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: Benson from Florida State, and to me, they're similar in

681
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of ways in terms of the way they

682
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, they both kind of they both have some speed,

683
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: they both are pretty well sized, they have a little

684
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: bit everything. I don't think either guy is you know,

685
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: start stop, super explosive necessary. Your thoughts on Benson Is

686
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: he your second guy and how close do you have

687
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: in the Brooks?

688
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: I like, uh, Blake Korham is my second guy, But

689
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: I like What I like about Benson is the open

690
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: field speed. I mean once he gets into the hole.

691
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: The difference between Korum and Benson for me, and the

692
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: reason I like Korm a little bit more, is that

693
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: he can find the hole. He knows where the play

694
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: is supposed to go. Obviously he had some very good

695
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: blockers at Michigan, but you still have to understand the

696
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: play and know where the hole is going to be,

697
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: when to cut it off the backside, when not to

698
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: those kind of things, and Korm's im a very smart runner.

699
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: So I think Korum is the second back picked and

700
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: then Benson is probably I think Jalen Wright might go first,

701
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: then Benson, but that's kind of a toss up. I

702
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: can see why teams would go either way, depending if

703
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 2: you want the home run back or you want more

704
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: of the power back that that right is and and

705
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: it just depends on what the team wants. But boy

706
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: Ben and forget it once he's in the open field.

707
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: You know with that he's not the most physical back,

708
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: which some teams won't necessarily like, and they might like

709
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: Corman and write a little bit more because of that.

710
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: But just forget it. If that guy, if you if

711
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: you make calls for that guy, he can he can

712
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: turn it on.

713
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: How many of these running backs are gonna go in

714
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: the third round for you, We're just gonna have like

715
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: a flood where you're gonna have six after like very

716
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: few in the first year, you're gonna have six or

717
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: seven in the third.

718
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Uh. I think we'll have probably two in the top

719
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: fifty and then right probably late too. Then you'd have Benson, Lloyd,

720
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: maybe will Shipley from Clemson in the third maybe Brave

721
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: Braylon Allen in the third. But Allen's really not running

722
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: this year kind of hurts his stock. I don't know

723
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: if he's gonna be He's a potential third round back,

724
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: So we could have those guys. You know, there's a

725
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 2: few guys that could go in the four or five

726
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: guys that go in the third round.

727
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 3: You're ready for a change. Pay day comes early with citizens,

728
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 3: so go to that retreat. Knew you moves to the country.

729
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: Now you're raising Goat and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

730
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 3: you ready for all that life breaks?

731
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely? I think it's a really fascinating class and I

732
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: think you know, the guys will go on the right

733
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: spot this year. No one's going to be overdrafted necessarily,

734
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: Unles's that first round Brooks thing happens, which case, Wow,

735
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: that'll be talk about Dallas fans, you know, panicking and

736
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: losing their minds between the Prescott thing and that.

737
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: It'll be a show, needless to say, think about Dallas's

738
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: and if I'm Dallas, I can see how they think

739
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: this way. What do they need? They need a center?

740
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: Well you can get that in round two, three, four, right,

741
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: I mean, like you can find a starting center, not

742
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: in the first round. You can get a tackle or

743
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: guard depending on what they're going to do on their

744
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: offense line. So there's there's some ways around where they

745
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 2: can make themselves like, look, let's get this special player.

746
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: If we think he's special even coming off that we

747
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: can make do with the other spots. Well.

748
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: So absolutely I could totally see them looking at that way.

749
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: But in terms of the I mean, in terms of

750
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: the Giants, I'm not sure how you feel. You know,

751
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: what they're needs still is, but I'm still projecting them,

752
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, taking a running back fairly high, and I

753
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: would love Quorum in that spot, you know, if you

754
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 2: want the breakaway and you know, Devils Singletary's not a

755
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 2: breakaway guy, but god, if you could get Benson Marshaun

756
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: Lloyd is like a Zach Moss type of guy. So

757
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: if you like that, if you want that kind of

758
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 2: back too, I mean you can there's a lot of

759
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: choices for the Giants in the in the on day two.

760
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a little lot of teasers. When we

761
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: talk about your mock draft at the end year, as

762
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: you assigned one of those running backs you mentioned to

763
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. Giants might still need a guard.

764
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, they bring in Jermaine a luminor in for agency.

765
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 1: He can be a swing guy. Is he a tackle?

766
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Is he a guard? Where's Evan Neil wind Up? He's

767
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 1: gonna start a tackle. We'll see Aaron Stinney, who's been

768
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: kind of a low end starter for Tampa for a

769
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: couple of years. But I could see them using a

770
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: day too early Day three pick on a guard here, Chad.

771
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna see any straight up

772
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: guards go in the first round. I'm not considering Jackson

773
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,760
Speaker 1: Powers Johnson, or Graham Barne or Jordan Morgan straight up guards.

774
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: They're kind of combo guys, right, So he might see

775
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: a first straight up guard going round two or around three.

776
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: Who are some of the guys you like in that area?

777
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: Well, one guy I was thinking about for my next

778
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 2: mock draft for the Giants was Cooper bb because that

779
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: dude is a monster and if anybody, he could be

780
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: this year's Creed Humphrey where they find some reason not

781
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: to draft them high for whatever.

782
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: But that guy is Tay too, man. I'm with you.

783
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I think it's great.

784
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: So one of these teams in the top fifty is

785
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: going to get an excellent player in BB and it

786
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: might and it might be the Giants, but there's lots

787
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: of Mason McCormick South Dakota State love of super athlete

788
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: at the Combine and it really wasn't expected. But he

789
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: is a fierce blocker. So he is a third round

790
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: guy to me all day long. Some teams might look

791
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: at him late second, so we'll pay attention to that,

792
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: but he's gonna he's gonna be in that category. Another

793
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: guy if you just want like a straight maller, Brandon

794
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Coleman from TCU. My goodness, this skuy can and he's

795
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: a good mover too. He's not he's not, as you know,

796
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: too slow, but he's just he just moves people.

797
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: And he played some tackle and mobile with the Central too.

798
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: They hadn't take it some reps to tackle on one

799
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: on ones.

800
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: That's right, and he played. He played at TCU, he

801
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: played quite a bit of tackle as well, So it

802
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: kind of shifted back and forth. Christian Mahogany out of

803
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: Boston College and other potential round three guy, earlier round

804
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 2: four guy, Zach Zeer. Look, Zach Ziner is probably gonna

805
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: go in the second round somewhere despite the injury, and

806
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: you know he's going to be a fantastic starting guard

807
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. It's just a matter of whether you

808
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: can take how high you can take him, knowing he

809
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: might not play right away. But there's honestly, the Giants

810
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: have a lot of choices here in terms of guys,

811
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: and like you mentioned, there's a ton of guys that

812
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: are guard, you know, center combinations, and you know, Tanner

813
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: Bordolini from Wisconsin is a guy that that could be

814
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: a second round pick. Dallas could look at him, The

815
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Giants could look at him as a second round pick

816
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 2: because he can play guy and he can play center.

817
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: Zach Frazier from West Virginia has played both, So lots

818
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 2: of different options for teams looking for that interior guy

819
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: this year.

820
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, I think there are some good options outside

821
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: of that first round. All right, Chad, let's take a look.

822
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I think we hit all the business that I wanted

823
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: to hit. So why don't we take a look at

824
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: your mock draft there for the Giants. We talked about

825
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: some of these guys already, so we don't go into

826
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: great detail, but it's a four round mock it's up there.

827
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: League Neighbors fall to the Giants at six. And you

828
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: mentioned the Odell Beckham junior comp And I'm the first

829
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: one to yell people to don't you know helmet scout? No,

830
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry you could take the helmets off. The

831
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: dudes look the same. I know, I know you can't

832
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: scout the uniform, but in this case, it's it's too close.

833
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: Like a lot. They have a lot of similarities. So

834
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if Giants will be happy

835
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: or said if another Odell Beckham came, but but he

836
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 2: was such a great player for him, and I think

837
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Neighbors is the same kind of guy, and I just

838
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: I think could be a great fit for a team

839
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: that obviously could use a playmaker like that.

840
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Any thought of and I'm with you, I have Neighbors

841
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: ahead of a Dunza on my rankings board as well.

842
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: But given who's already with the Giants with Hyatt and

843
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: Slayton and Wandol Robinson, was there any thought to a

844
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: more traditional, bigger bodied X like a Dunsa being a

845
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: better fit in net group? And did that go into

846
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: your thinking a little bit?

847
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: No? I think you just take the best player. Honestly,

848
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: I think neighbors can do a lot of different stuff.

849
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think he is really he is strong.

850
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 2: He might not be as big as a donsay, but

851
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: he is strong at the catch point. People are not

852
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: going to beat him to the ball, and I think

853
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: that's really what's important. So I think he I think

854
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: he's just a better player overall, and so that's I

855
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: didn't really think about that as much.

856
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: No, I totally get it. I would just pick the

857
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: best guy as well, and then you work around it.

858
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: You want to have the best possible players and let

859
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: the coaches do what they do. You mentioned Blake Koram

860
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: you even going to the Giants at number two, trying

861
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: to get some more juice in that room with Saquon Barkley,

862
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: And you kind of mentioned this already. The one thing

863
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: that's a negative for korm he'd doesn't have that top

864
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: end breakaway speed.

865
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: You know.

866
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: I was worried he could be a four to six guy,

867
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: and then he ran more than good enough with your

868
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: four or five one guy I think at the NFL

869
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: three or something, which is fine, which did you watch

870
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: him on tape?

871
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 2: Look? Fine, he is a year off of knee surgery.

872
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: Good point, and it takes a year for them to

873
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 2: get that full explosion back. We saw this with Nick

874
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: Chubb coming out of Georgia too, the same same kind

875
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: of deal. And I you know, in that particular mock

876
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: that I did, he lasts till forty seven. I don't

877
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: know he's gonna last that long, but if they did,

878
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: what a bargain. He can pass protect. He's extremely natural

879
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: catching the ball, good leader, and he's exactly what you want.

880
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you know a lot of people say, well, oh,

881
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: Jim Harborough is gonna take him with the Chargers, you

882
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: know obviously in the second round, Like well, those kind

883
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: of things don't often work out, right, You think, oh,

884
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: that's an easy pick. The Charger a going to those

885
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: you know, teams don't pick necessarily guys that used to

886
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: play for them and all that, so he could be available.

887
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: But I love that guy as a player.

888
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: He actually reminds me a lot of Devin Singletary, the

889
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: Giants brought in to replace Balfley, right. They just that

890
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: low center of gravity, great balance, make guys missing short areas,

891
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: that phone booth quickness. I think he's just the guy

892
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: that that's a good football player. And you know, people

893
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: think that, you know, Alwa's smaller, you can only run

894
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: at ten. You know, maybe it's be a part time back.

895
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: I think that guy can run it seventeen times a game.

896
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: I would have no problem with that.

897
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, height has nothing to do with that, in my opinion,

898
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: has nothing to do great. In fact, it's harder to

899
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: once you get a guy like that going downhill. And

900
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: again I think he will be more explosive as his

901
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: rookie year goes on as he just you just saw

902
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 2: it even even during this year. A guy like that

903
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: is just a guy you want in your football team.

904
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 2: And again he's he could play on third down and

905
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't really know that about him,

906
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: like just think he's got a bunch of touchdowns on goal.

907
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: Last hand, he's a third down back, so you can

908
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 2: put him in there. He will check your couterback. He

909
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: will catch the ball. So if you've got a guy

910
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: like that, you know, I'd take him every time.

911
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. And just his his shiftiness

912
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: is to find the hole. I think he'd be a

913
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: real real solid player.

914
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: All right.

915
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: Next guy in round three, Tyler Nuban, the safety, kind

916
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: of do everything safety Chad that I think would be

917
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: a nice fit in that split safety defense. That Bowen's

918
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: going to be playing here with the Giants as a

919
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator, and Newban's playing a lot of college football.

920
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: That's right. You know, he's a third round pick. He's

921
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: not the most explosive athlete, but he's a smart player.

922
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: When he gets a chance to create the turnover, he

923
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: does it. He's a strong run tackle. He can do

924
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything. Like you said, I he's

925
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: a guy that you can play deep, even though he's

926
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 2: not the fastest guy. He's so smart and he reads

927
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: the quarterback so well. He can read the route so well,

928
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 2: so he can play deep, he can come up in

929
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: the box, he does everything. He's a shirt tackler, exactly

930
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: what you want out of a Day two safety.

931
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: And then finally the fourth round Chris Abrams Draine who

932
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: ran really well. I thought he was pretty good at

933
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl and mobile as well. A guy that

934
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: I think you can play inside, he can play a

935
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: little outside as well.

936
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's got some versatility to him. Again,

937
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: tough minded corners. You gotta love him. Even though one

938
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy some pounds, whatever they are. He doesn't

939
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: back down from anybody. Super competitive. He can find the ball,

940
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: you know he can, and he plays through the catch point.

941
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: He competes until the whistle blows, and he will knock

942
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: that ball out of the receiver's hands, even if the

943
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: receiver already caught the ball. So he's one of those

944
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 2: guys that you can play in the swell, you can

945
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: play outside. Really competitive guy. So in the fourth round,

946
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: you know he's a real value.

947
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 1: Chad, this has always fum my man. Tell the folks

948
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: where they can find all your stuff.

949
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Well, come to NFL dot com. You'll see mock draft

950
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: out there. Five round, mock draft out there next week.

951
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: Got some other articles coming and talking about trades and

952
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: ideal picks for each teams, things like that over the

953
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: next few weeks up until at draft weekend, which is

954
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: what four weeks away. It's coming fast.

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Speaker 1: We're in a sprint man, Chadwriter, NFL dot com. Thanks

956
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Speaker 1: you'd being with us. Everybody, Enjoy your weekend and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you next week,