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Speaker 1: a great when Mike Silver, mister NFL information guy in

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Speaker 1: an opinion. It's my favorite kind of opinion. It's right,

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Speaker 1: but he gets pushback that John Morant's amazing and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna win his career in MVP and he's exhilarating and

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Speaker 1: he's fun. But I've seen it before. It's called Derrick Rose,

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook and John Wall hyper Athletic Guards who because

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Speaker 1: they're not great shooters need to drive to the room

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Speaker 1: and score, and eventually it's very physical down there among

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Speaker 1: the forest. They get knocked down, they get hurt, and

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Speaker 1: careers are not nearly as great as they are in

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Speaker 1: the first couple of years. So the pushback is Colin,

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Speaker 1: he's different, he's different. No, No, he's not. I watched

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Speaker 1: Derrick Rose. Derrick Rose was the best highlight player in

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Speaker 1: the league, so as John Morant. Derrick Rose was not

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Speaker 1: the best player in the league he faced that Yearie

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Speaker 1: Lebron totally shut him down on the fourth quarter of

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Speaker 1: every big game. John Morant's not as valuable as yann Us.

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Speaker 1: He's not as gifted as a healthy KD. He's not

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Speaker 1: the best player in the league. He's the best highlight

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Speaker 1: and he's playing in Zion. Isn't in the NBA. But

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Speaker 1: he's not a great shooter. He is a solid distributor,

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Speaker 1: and people are gonna say, well, Colin, he's got more

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Speaker 1: depth than Westbrook. All you fanboys out there voted for

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Speaker 1: Westbrook and wanted Westbrook could be the MVP because of

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Speaker 1: a triple double If that's not balanced, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what is. He averaged over ten rebounds a game, over

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Speaker 1: ten assists a game, double digits in points a game.

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Speaker 1: That's the definition of balance. That's why he won the

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Speaker 1: MVP balance. He didn't win the scoring title. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: the most efficient player. He was the definition of what

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Speaker 1: many perceived his balance. He could do a lot of things. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not anti John Morant, but we've seen this before

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Speaker 1: hyper athletic guards who are not great shooters. There is

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Speaker 1: no hand check. Wall can get to the basket. Westbrook

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Speaker 1: gets to the basket. Derrick Rose gets to the basket. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Gary Payton could not as easily get to the basket.

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Speaker 1: You could hand check him. So and I've said this,

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Speaker 1: the hand check should be reinstituted to the NBA. It

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Speaker 1: would cut down on small guys getting hurt. They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be able to drive to the basket as freely as

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Speaker 1: they do. I'm not saying John Morant won't win an MVP.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he won't be a great player. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying he won't lead his team to playoff victories

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Speaker 1: and series victories, but titles are not They don't go

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Speaker 1: through point guards. I mean, Magic Johnson doesn't even have

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Speaker 1: a comp in NBA history. He was a six nine

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Speaker 1: point guard. Don't compare him to Magic. But to last

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Speaker 1: in this league, it is not attacking the basket as

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Speaker 1: a little guy. That's not how you last in this league.

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Speaker 1: Lebron James did something about ten years ago. And Lebron

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Speaker 1: is such a savvy player. Even at six ninety five,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan jordan career, in my opinion, could have been longer.

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Speaker 1: He finished at the basket so much. You know, Duwayne

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Speaker 1: Now d Wade's is thick. D Wade could handle it.

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Speaker 1: D Wade had a great career, But I absolutely believe

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Speaker 1: So couldn't Marant develop into a better shooter? Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: how did it go. This is not an anti jam

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Speaker 1: He's currently number two in the NBA in scoring in

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Speaker 1: the paint, number two to a center. Can't last doing that.

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Speaker 1: At some point you gotta pull up, you gotta distribute,

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Speaker 1: All is not lost for the Lakers. They do have

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Speaker 1: to next year get rid of Westbrook. Westbrook is a

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Speaker 1: lot of noise and has been for a decade. But

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Speaker 1: he's never really worth the noise. He's not a winning player,

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Speaker 1: you know, I would compare him. Remember those car alarms

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Speaker 1: that used to go off like crazy? I mean everybody

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Speaker 1: had one ten years ago. I never bought into car alarms,

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Speaker 1: those loud sirens. Number one, sometimes you'd accidentally set it off.

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Speaker 1: It was humiliating and virtually impossible to turn off. Number

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Speaker 1: But unless I'm armed, why would I want to go

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Speaker 1: confront them? The car alarm couldn't handcuff the person, couldn't

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Speaker 1: to race to my car to somebody that's carjacking my car? No,

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Speaker 1: robbed their car. It never happened, but it could have eventually.

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Speaker 1: Mostly you don't see those as often. They made a

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Speaker 1: lot of noise, but they weren't entirely effective, right. And

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Speaker 1: also now all cars have GPS, so if it gets robbed,

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Speaker 1: That's always been Westbrook to me. A lot of media

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Speaker 1: was so bald, dominant. He just had a lot of everything,

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Speaker 1: a lot of missus, a lot of churnovers, a lot

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Speaker 1: the greatest players of our life Lebron and Michael and Magic,

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Speaker 1: they were efficient. The truth is about the Lakers. Their

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Speaker 1: well together. It's Westbrooks noise and inability to be efficient.

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Speaker 1: That disrupts the entire chemistry. This whole thing about volumes scores.

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Speaker 1: When you get to the playoffs, I need you to

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Speaker 1: make shots and like half of the ones you take.

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Speaker 1: I can't just have a noisy player. The history of

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Speaker 1: the NBA and a lot of guys that make a racket.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can just throw a potting pan in

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Speaker 1: my kitchen floor make a racket. What's the value of it.

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Speaker 1: It's the car alarm? What did I get out of it? Headaches?

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Speaker 1: I'm not running to my car. Car alarm goes off.

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Speaker 1: Let me confront the man stealing my car. Why would

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Speaker 1: I want that? There's nothing about that that seems interesting

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Speaker 1: to me. So you don't have to make over this

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Speaker 1: entire roster. You've got to get the noisy player out

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Speaker 1: of town, and the Lakers will do that, moving Westbrook

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Speaker 1: at some point after this season. I've always had a

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Speaker 1: theory on kids. Bad kids can come from good parents,

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Speaker 1: good kids can come from bad parents, but crazy kids

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Speaker 1: always come from crazy parents, always, no exceptions. One of

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Speaker 1: the reasons Hollywood people shouldn't marry each other and have

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Speaker 1: to divas, to actors, to people who pretend for a living,

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Speaker 1: too highly artistic people. They fail a lot. That's a

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Speaker 1: very unique profession. What do you do for a living?

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Speaker 1: I pretend to be a pirate. That's not a construction worker,

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Speaker 1: that's not a landscaper. What do you do? I'm a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: I mean I pretend to be not really, it's different.

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Speaker 1: So crazy can sometimes attract crazy os owa's with highly

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Speaker 1: volatile results. But crazy does attract crazy. Crazy kids come

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Speaker 1: from crazy parents. And I was thinking about the Brooklyn Nets.

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Speaker 1: Is it coincidental that Kyrie Irving, Ben Simmons, and Kevin

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Speaker 1: been published, it's been reported. I don't think it's a coincidence.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's irony. I think crazy attracts crazy.

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Speaker 1: You just don't see a lot of accountants that mary

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Speaker 1: These are the three players in the NBA. Simmons don't

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Speaker 1: you know, left an a player, or just maybe there's

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Speaker 1: some people in my past that I want to float

422
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Speaker 1: a little maybe passively in front of I'm going to

423
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to the Pulitzer ceremony, and that

424
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Speaker 1: I'm showing up at the Emmy's with my Juelitzer. Yeah

425
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: around my neck could be like, hey, what's up everybody? Yeah. Well,

426
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: I'll say this about McVeigh. He didn't play starters in preseason.

427
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: People rolled their eyes. He changed the culture. He had

428
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Speaker 1: lighter practices. The old schoolers like, nah, you gotta hit

429
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: in practice, he wouldn't do it. And now again he's

430
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Speaker 1: taking the league on that. It's kind of a waste

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Speaker 1: of time. So I'll say this about Sean. There's a

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Speaker 1: Belichick field of Sean. You know I was talking about

433
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Speaker 1: this is you know, Belichick did a couple of things

434
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: that went against the grain. It used to be the

435
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: offense owned the sidelines, but the defense on the middle

436
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: of the field. And I remember this about fifteen years

437
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: ago when Belichick went and got Aaron Hernandez and Gronk

438
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: and said, yeah, yes, we are going to not throw

439
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: up the sidelines. We're gonna in the middle of the field.

440
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: And now everybody does. But I Mike, that was fifteen

441
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 1: years ago. It did not look like everybody else in

442
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, like Aaron Hernandez and Gronk were chess pieces.

443
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: People didn't use their tight ends like that. They just didn't. Yeah,

444
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: for all Bill's defensive genius, that was an incredible offensive innovation.

445
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: And really, if Aaron Hernandez had been, you know, able

446
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: to function in society a little differently, it might have

447
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: continued for a long long time, because it turns out

448
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: here and Gronk were both pretty irreplaceable. But yeah, I

449
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: will say this, like I you know, the Rams just

450
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: won and the Bucks just won, very similar approaches. We

451
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: don't care about twenty twenty two. We don't care about

452
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. We don't care about twenty thirty, twenty thirty.

453
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 1: We care about now and if you get away with that,

454
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: it's admirable and awesome, and I'm usually in favor of

455
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: it before the outcome. But you know, if Jakiski Tart

456
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: catches that a reception, or if the Bucks still blow

457
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: that coverage to Cooper Cup and they come back and

458
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: win that game, there's a whole offseason of man shot

459
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: of less. They went all in and it uploaded Matthew

460
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: Stafford that turnovers they didn't win the Bucks last year.

461
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 1: If they go to Lambeau and you know, the floor

462
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: goes for the touchdown and said the field goal here

463
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 1: he gets the two point conversion they went. I think

464
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: people say, man, they got Leonard Fournette, they got Antonio Brown,

465
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: they went all in. Now they're gonna have to pay

466
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: the piper. Now, I'm not saying right or wrong. I'm

467
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: just saying it's amazing how small the margin forever is.

468
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: But we do have a copycat league, and Belichick you

469
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: brought up, Never has there been a bigger instance of it.

470
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: There's been an entire subculture of coaches at GM's A

471
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: franchises affected by the bizarre belief that you can win

472
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: lots of Super Bowls if you're overbearing coach slash GM

473
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Speaker 1: is just a big jerk all the time with media

474
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Speaker 1: in his own building. And I feel like shaking all

475
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: these people from Josh McDaniel's early version to Joe Judge

476
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: and just said, guys, Bill doesn't win because he's a jerk.

477
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: Bill wins because he's an unbelievable coach and because he

478
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady. And that's fine, by the way. He

479
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: won more than anyone ever and will reap the rewards.

480
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: But just be yourself. And if that's you, be you.

481
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: Brian Flores, you and I have talked about a lot.

482
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: I still can't figure it out. He's clearly a really

483
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: good coach. He clearly has elements of I'm not one

484
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: of those Belichick guys. I'm my own guy. But he

485
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: also clearly has el it's oh now I'm in power.

486
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it the Bill way. And that probably

487
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: is the biggest reason that a very good coach who

488
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: did a good job got fired. And now is you know,

489
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: obviously in different different waters dealing with another equally, you know,

490
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: a very important issue systemic racism in the coaching world.

491
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: But in our little world, there are a lot of

492
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Speaker 1: people going I can't understand why Flow got fired, but

493
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: I kind of can, yeah, because of the way that

494
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: he was. Belichickie, well, that's another way mcveigh's had influence.

495
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: When I think of McVeigh, I think of collaborative. Well,

496
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: I think of Brian Flores, I think of Jim Harbaugh.

497
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: I think of authoritarian. And I think another influence of

498
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: McVeigh is guys were collaborative. Here. It's a it's a

499
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: player locker room. I'm the culture setter. I'm going to

500
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: be demanding on game day, but I think there's a

501
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: real pattern in this league of collaboration and the authoritarian

502
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: I wear the highway. Even Belichick with Cam Newton, realizing

503
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: how popular Cam was among players, was very complimentary. I

504
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: think Bill understands it. I really do well. And I

505
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: would say this about Sean because this is fascinating, right.

506
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: Sean's whole culture is based on that. He's been great

507
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: at it, and it's allowed them to take risks that

508
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: other teams can't take because they believe when you get

509
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: in the locker room, you know, we hear about oh

510
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: the culture. They're not they're not arrogant that way. They're

511
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: just they're just like their front office attitude, Sean special.

512
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: He'll bring you in and you'll feel good, and our

513
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: coaches are good, they'll coach you up and you'll succeed

514
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: and it'll just work out. Now, the backdrop of all

515
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: this this year is that Sean's most important connection had degenerated.

516
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: And I know casual fans or people who are superficial

517
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: like to say would go to soaked and like, that's

518
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: not what happened. Those guys got to a super Bowl

519
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: together in year two and it was amazing. And whether

520
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: you say the player regressed or whether Sean needed to

521
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: evolve or whatever happened, their connection got messed up. And

522
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: I've heard it from both sides very passionately, and they

523
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: both know that I'm hearing the other side, and so

524
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm just being lobbied. I think I've

525
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: heard each guy tell me what they think happened. And

526
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: I believe that. You know, it's better for Jared and

527
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: the long run to have a place and a offensive

528
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: coordinator maybe Ben Johnson now, who is on the same

529
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: page with him and believes fully at him, and it's

530
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: better for Sean to have his guy. And I always

531
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: wanted Sean to have his guys. It wasn't right with Jared,

532
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 1: But what they did was they basically said, we need

533
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, who has not proven to be a Super

534
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Bowl winner or even a playoff winner, so badly, and

535
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: we we also need to get rid of this Jared

536
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: got contract to make it happen that We'll just give

537
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: you whatever it takes, and the margin for error is

538
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: then that Jaquiski tart drop that third and goal holding

539
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: called defensive holding of the Super Bowl. Whatever you want

540
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: to say, they won, and history will show they went

541
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: all in, they got that important connection right after it

542
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: had gone awry, and they now have a banner, and

543
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: so history will show that what everything you said about

544
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: Sean prevailed. But it was kind of tenuous that goth

545
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: McVay connection had gone, you know, noticeably bad in that building.

546
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: So over the course of time, you and I have

547
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: had discussions with general managers. You probably far more than me,

548
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: but I've had this discussion with coaches and gms minimum

549
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: ten times in the twenty five years I've been doing this.

550
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: Owners are weird. Owners over the last decade, because of

551
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: tech and holdings and the value of their franchises are richer,

552
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: they're less patient, they're more demanding. I like Jim or say,

553
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: but this shit so transparent. Chris Ballard's a friend of mine.

554
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: But one of the things I never do with my

555
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: sources is when fit hits the shan and there's a

556
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: big controversy, I stay away. Right, they're vulnerable. I don't

557
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: think that's the time to get information from them. Agree. Okay,

558
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: So I've stayed away from Ballard on the Wentz thing.

559
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: I've just given him space. If he wants to tell

560
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: me something, he will, I'll talk to him when it's settled.

561
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: That's to me more fair. But I know Chris's personality.

562
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to move off Carson Wentz. In this market,

563
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: it's a mediocre draft. They're not getting Pickett or Willis,

564
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: and those are the only two guys all my scouts

565
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: really like. That's it. Yeah, the market. Jimmy Garoppolo has

566
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: the same Wentz health issue, but isn't as gifted an athlete.

567
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Deshaun doesn't fit the culture of the team, and they're

568
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: not getting Russ or Aaron. This is so obviously. Ersey

569
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: just can't get past how the season ended. And I

570
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: go back to this Carson Wentz went twenty seventeen seven

571
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: picks with an average wide receiving corps like, I think

572
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: Jim Ersey is massively overreacting and I'm not sure if

573
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: they get rid of them what they land. That is

574
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: all logically true, But I do know Jim Rcy very well.

575
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: I would say this most owners who By the way,

576
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: another thing that you didn't add in that long accurate

577
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: list is they listened to the noise more than people know,

578
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: more than people know, and let it affect them. But

579
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: Jim Rcy was a GM. He literally you know, Al

580
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: Davis has gone Jerry's kind of the GM and tell

581
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: us very few owners have been in that chair. And

582
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: understand now his dad was his boss, but he was

583
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: the general manager of the Colts early on, and so

584
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: he has experienced what that's like. And I know how

585
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 1: much he values Chris Ballard and believes in him. I

586
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: don't think it's unfair for Jimmer say to say I

587
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: got all these Pro bowlers. I'm not the youngest man

588
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: of the world. I had Peyton manning that, Andrew Luck.

589
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I've won one Super Bowl. I would like to win

590
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: more and be a position to win more at the

591
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: very least when my team only needs to show up

592
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: on the road against the worst team in the world

593
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: that is checked out. They have an interim coach and

594
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: by the way, is incentivized from a franchise perspective to

595
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: lose because they could have clinched the number one pick.

596
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: They didn't know that Detroit was also going to beat

597
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: Green Bay and you can't go down there. And it's

598
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: not just that they lost, like, oh, Paul, it was crazy.

599
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: Aren't competitive? They were flat? And I love Frank Rank

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00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: as a coach. I've actually thought he's gotten too little

601
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: credit previously. But you have to as the owner and

602
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: a former GM you have to look at your coach

603
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: and your quarterback in that situation and go what was

604
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: going on? Now? I don't know what was going on,

605
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: but I do know they came out flat. They weren't competitive,

606
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: and I do know the quarterback, who is the most

607
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: important guy, didn't seem to. Now, maybe he was tired,

608
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: understandably coming off COVID, And we can debate whether it's

609
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: frustrating if you're the employer that he chose not to

610
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: get vaccinated and maybe had it a little worse, or

611
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: the protocols were a little worse. You could say, is

612
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: he connected with his teammates. I don't know. I just

613
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: know that i'd be frustrated to as a as an

614
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: owner who really wants to win, who has been a GM.

615
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: Now Michael Bidwell, the owner of the Cardinals, was apoplectic

616
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: after twenty twenty when they're had a late collapse it

617
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. I would imagine that right now,

618
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 1: he's not super thrilled. So you know, sometimes the owner

619
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: is not super thrilled and people don't get fired. And

620
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, Frank and Chris had just signed contract extensions,

621
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: and you know, Cliff Kingsbury and Kyler looked like they

622
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: might do it again. But you know, we watch and

623
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: we wonder are there pressure points? So I would say

624
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: that if we're looking, if we're doing a hot Seat

625
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: early for twenty twenty two before the draft, you have

626
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: to put Frank rig on it. You have to put

627
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: Cliff on it, you have to put Mike McCarthy on it.

628
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: And that's kind of wild because those are all winning programs.

629
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: That's a good threesome on the hot seat. That is

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Speaker 1: the threesome next year, isn't it? It really is? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there will be heat on Robert Salom because they did

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know, it's it's it's more striking when

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Speaker 1: you're very you live in the Bay Area, you're very,

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Speaker 1: very connected. There are stories that occasionally surface, and I've

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Speaker 1: missed on him, but they seem obvious. Yet all the

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Speaker 1: reports of the opposite. So I hear Montana, Steve Young,

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Speaker 1: Adam Schefter not sure if Trey Lands can play, and

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Speaker 1: I think time out. Garoppolo's getting surgery. Tray Lance needs snaps.

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Speaker 1: They're not in love with Garoppolo. He'd be the four

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Speaker 1: most talented quarterback in thenivation, they're moving Jimmy Garoppolo. It's over.

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Speaker 1: Yet every report and this stuff comes out because somebody

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Speaker 1: wants it out, is that they're not sure about Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: So I'm left to believe this. Mike's over. They're doing this.

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Speaker 1: So when people call on Garoppolo they say, hey, we

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Speaker 1: don't know if Trey Lance is good enough. We need

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Speaker 1: a second and a starting corner. I totally agree. And

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Speaker 1: here's another way to look at it. They have to

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Speaker 1: find out if Trey Lance is not good because they

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Speaker 1: traded three ones two good. Right, And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it was a crazy thing to do.

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Speaker 1: He's really athletic, very talented thrower and apparently unbelievably intelligent

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Speaker 1: and like whoa like that could be great, like and

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Speaker 1: you know Kyle's going to coach that up. You know

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Speaker 1: they have a chance to it has a chance to

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Speaker 1: be right. But yeah, I agree with you if it

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Speaker 1: becomes Jordan Love and it's like, hey, if Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: signs a big two year extension and now we'll play

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love in year five, you're really saying, well, we've

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Speaker 1: seen Jordan Love and we think he could be five,

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Speaker 1: but we know he's not close to Aaron Rodgers, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think they're gonna do that

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Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. They gave up too much to get him, Yes,

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Speaker 1: And It's not like he went out there and looked like, no,

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Speaker 1: you know, right Ryan Leaf early on or no, Marcus Russell.

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Speaker 1: I went and looked at it. I went, I went

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Speaker 1: and looked at video. He's big, he's strong, he's athletic,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a power arm. He just needs reps. Also,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Love concerns me because he started for three years

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Speaker 1: in college. You gotta be ready to play. Trey Lance didn't.

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't be rusty, he should look like he needs work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think, to me, the thing that could that

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Speaker 1: swayed me on him, even though he's raw and he's

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Speaker 1: coming from a you know, FCS program, is I just

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Speaker 1: kept and how smart the kid is, and so especially

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Speaker 1: for Kyle. I mean, that's Kyle's dream to have a

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Speaker 1: quarterback who's you know, his on his intellectual plane. And

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Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to play quarterback. It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd be a dumb quarterback. There's too much

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Speaker 1: going on, right, But I heard how quickly he picked

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Speaker 1: it up and what they just think of him as

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Speaker 1: the way he processes that really excited me. And look,

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Speaker 1: Kyle told me last summer he goes, dude, I saw

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks go get Jamal Adams and be aggressive. I

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Speaker 1: saw the Rams be crazy aggressive, including beating me out

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Speaker 1: for Stafford. And by the way, the Rams continue to

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Speaker 1: stay aggressive. He goes, I'm in the NFC West. Yeah, bro,

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Speaker 1: I had to make a trade, like I'm not just

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Speaker 1: gonna be passive and take who we get at twelve.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they will trade Garoppolo. I think

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Speaker 1: it's what he said. They want to be able to say.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I mean you've you've seen it. We're not

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Speaker 1: sure about Trey lads and Jimmy's our guy. Now. It

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Speaker 1: is weird because if Jaquiski Tart catches the ball or

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Speaker 1: they run behind Trip Williams up third to one, maybe

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Speaker 1: Jimmy said the super Bowl. Maybe who wins the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Then it's a different conversation. All right, Mike silber NFL

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Speaker 1: combine great shit as always, absolutely love it. Keep kicking.

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Speaker 1: But your your voice has gone hoarse from all these

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Speaker 1: deep covert conversations with deal makers in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: have so many important things to say at such high volumes.

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Speaker 1: It's just, you know, it's a tough job. Someone's got

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Speaker 1: to do it. I will come visit you in Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles soon, hopefully with the real voice. All right, buddy.

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