1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, I think you have to really address technology 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: and you know, really embracing I can have a three 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: way chapter two and that one time so much the 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: car doctors so much decisions I've made in the past 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: two years to alter the shops direction instead of going 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: more towards nuts and bolts, which is clearly not the future. 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: It was encouraging to see that. Yeah, embracing technology is 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: clearly the way to go. Welcome to the radio home 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: of Ron and Anian the Car Doctor, since this is 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: where car owners the world overturned to for their definitive 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: busy signal, pick up the phone and call in. The 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: garage doors are open, but I am here to take 14 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: your calls at eight five five five six and now 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: he running. Hey, come on in, so down, Ron and 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: any in the Car Doctor at your service. Glad to 17 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: be here each and every week as I get to 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: be as you choose me to be. UM as you. 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I know you have a lot of things to do 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and UM I appreciate you taking the 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: time to spend this two hours segment with me. If 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: you're here for the whole two hours, and if not, 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: we're glad to have you for whatever kind of time 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: frame we get you. Four the phone numbers eight five 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Again that 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: numbers eight five five five six zero nine nine zero 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: zero the car doctor seven number. We are here at 28 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: your service. Saturday afternoons live Eastern time two to four 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: pm is when this show is on the year live. 30 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: But that eight five five zero zero zero number. You 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: can leave a message. There's seven answering service there. And 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: when he gets back from vacation, because he is out 33 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: on vacation this week. He's out on the Louisville love 34 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: Hunt as we call it. And um, he's off and uh, 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: Harry's out seeing America. So if you see somebody by 36 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the way in a silver Nissan broken down on the 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: side of the road and he's jumping up and down, 38 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: that's Harry. He's somewhere in UH. I think he's down 39 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: around Cleveland now as I understand it, but he's making 40 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: his way west. He's taking about three days to take 41 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: the eleven hour trip to Louisville. But um, in any event, 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: Harry will call you back and get you in queue 43 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: for the next live broadcast if you call in at 44 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. Casual observations 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: and um, I should point out that this week begins 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: our T shirt giveaway. We're going into giving away a 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: car Doctor T shirt one each hour. We will do 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: that around the forty three mark, and we have a 49 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: couple of winners already lined up, so we already know 50 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do this week, but we are looking 51 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: for your questions for next week. We're gonna change the 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: rules up a little bit if I can. Before I start, 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: send me an email. Here's what I want. Here's the 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: most important thing. All right, and understand what this is about. 55 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: We're trying to get T shirts into your hands, but 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: we're also trying to see what's on your mind. Don't 57 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: like the post we put on Facebook like the page 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: get out to Ron and any in the Car Doctor 59 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: like the page can't be any simpler than that. I realized, 60 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: And I can understand why some people have problems getting 61 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: cars fixed, because we seem to be confusing people. Even 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: though we've said this a half a dozen times. This 63 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: isn't two technical, folks. It's not nearly as hard as 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: fixing a car like the Car Doctor Facebook page and 65 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: ask a question. If we pick it, we will send 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: you a car Doctor T shirt with all the love 67 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: enjoy in our hearts to get you to wear it 68 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: and enjoy it while you can also keep in mind 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: I would also like you to email it to me. 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: Some of you are having a problem figuring out where 71 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: on the Facebook page to put that, So if you're 72 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: having a hard time like the page, send me an 73 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: email Ron at Car Doctor show dot com and we'll 74 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: put the information up on the page for you if 75 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: that helps you out at all. But one way or another, 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to make it so that you can go 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: to Facebook, get some information and get a T shirt. 78 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: Casual observations because I see the phones are busy. We're 79 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna go over the phonees real quick. I noticed today 80 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: driving around is I'm getting ready to do the show. 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: He knows how cars are starting to look alike, and 82 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't think this is anything new. Driving down the road, 83 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: I went past somebody's driveway and I had to do 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: a double take. It was a silver Ford Escape and 85 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: a silver Honda c RV. You know, if you're driving 86 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: by at thirty and you don't look twice they look 87 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: almost identical. The badging is getting to be similar, that 88 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: the bodylines are definitely getting to be similar, and it 89 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: just kind of makes me sad that cars don't have 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: that distinctiveness that they once did, and it seems to 91 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: be getting worse where they're all just gonna be molded 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: hard hats rolling down the road. Another observation saw somebody 93 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: driving around in a brand new car today and I 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: could tell it was a new card, had temporary tags 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: on it, and the hood latch was undone, and I 96 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: couldn't help but think that they weren't familiar with the 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: controls released what they thought was the parking break, and 98 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: they had the hood latch on the second latch driving 99 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: along at forty. So if you're driving a new vehicle, 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: please make sure you know where the hood releases, and 101 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: please make sure you know what the controls are before 102 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: you start out. Because as hard as I tried to 103 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: catch up to that person and go, hey, hood, I 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a problem for them somewhere down 105 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: the line. Let's kick open the garage doors. My first 106 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: caller this hour, This is a little bit of a 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: surprise for me. I don't think in all my years 108 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: on radio, I've ever been the one to be interviewed. 109 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: But we're doing this at the request of Madeline. She's 110 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: from green Bay, Wisconsin. I understand she's twelve years old. 111 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: She's attending a class or taking a class on technology 112 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: in order repair. She needs to interview a mechanic, and 113 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: lucky me, I'm the guy. So without any further ado, 114 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna turn the microphone over to Madeleine. 115 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 1: Are you there? Hey? How are you good? How about 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: you good? I've never been anybody's homework before. Oh well, 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: I guess it's the first time for both of us. 118 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: Here you go, so tell us a little bit about yourself. 119 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: What is it that you're you're taking in school. Well, 120 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm a twelve year old girl from Green Bay, Wisconsin 121 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: and I go to Edison Middle School. A class that 122 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: I'm taking is called technology and we make uh CEO 123 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: two cars and now we're doing at present he shin 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: on a career that we want to do when we 125 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: grow up. And you want I want to be a mechanic. 126 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: You want to be a mechanic? Well, good for you, Hey, 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: more power to you. You know what we need? We 128 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: need people that can do this and if you have 129 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: interest in it, that's half the battle. So what what 130 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: sort of things are they teaching there about cars at 131 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Edison Middle School? Um? Welly, we made CEO two cars 132 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: that we race. We built it out of pine cars, 133 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: and like the suspension that we learned in like aerodynamics 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: and how wind can affect how fast your car goes 135 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: M and listen, don't don't take anything that they teach 136 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: you too lightly, because I'll tell you what. It's from 137 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: those little things you learn at this age that can 138 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: make you into an engineer somewhere ten years, fifteen years 139 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: down the road, so far away. What kind of questions 140 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: is it that we need to answer? Okay, so one 141 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: of the questions I have to ask you is how 142 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: many years have you been a mechanice? Wow? I wish 143 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I could do that when I grew up. Yeah, I started. 144 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: I started turning wrenches at the tender age of sixteen, 145 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: and I've been doing it. I'll be sixty in August. 146 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm not afraid to admit it. I've been doing it 147 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: almost forty four years. Thank you. Second question, what is 148 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: your favorite part of being a mechanic? Oh? That's easy. 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: I like fixing the heart. To fix I like taking 150 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: something that I don't understand and understanding it while at 151 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: the same time solving a problem for somebody that nobody 152 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: else could could solve that. You know, it's it's a 153 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: I think. To be a mechanic, I think, like anything else. 154 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: To do a good job today, I think you've got 155 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: to have a just a touch of ego, said the 156 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: guy who's on radio. And you know, you've got to 157 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: be able to thump your chest. And if you look 158 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: at everything as oh, I don't want to do this 159 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: and I don't want to do that, you'll lose the 160 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: significance of it. I think if you're going to be 161 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: successful in whatever you do in life, you want to 162 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: be able to thump your chest and say, look what 163 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I did. And I get to do that by fixing 164 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: something nobody else can fix. Yeah, that's um, you know, 165 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: just just one on one, you and me. Just Yeah, 166 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: that's the way it is. I I love that, you know. 167 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: I remember as a kid. I'll never forget my fascination. 168 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't think I was gonna be a 169 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: mechanic forever. I didn't start out to be a mechanic, 170 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: but it just you know, the universe always brought me 171 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: back to fixing cars. I used to go see my 172 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: friend Russell when he worked at the Volkswagen dealership, and 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: I'll you know, we'd hang out and Russell was Russell 174 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: started out as a mechanic working on cars, and I 175 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: was doing it part time at the moment. And I 176 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: remember there was a guy up there and he was Tony. 177 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: We called him Fat Tony because he weighed about four 178 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: digner pounds. It was this big giant of a man. 179 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: You gotta realize to eighteen nineteen year old kids, this 180 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: is a big this is a big impact on our life. 181 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: And we would watch Tony work on Volkswagens every day 182 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: and he was the He was the top dog in 183 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: the shop and he worked on the hard, to sell, 184 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: the ridiculous, to solve. He had every hard problem under 185 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: the sun. One day he got a four cylinder Volkswagen. 186 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: This is the late seventies. He got a four cylinder 187 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: Volkswagen diesel and I'll never forget this. It came off 188 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: the truck brand new. It didn't make enough power and 189 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: he worked on that. He worked on that car for 190 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: three days and he took everything apart, and he looked 191 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: at everything and he, you know, went through the hall 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: gamut of what could be wrong with that car. And 193 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: on the third day, because I would always stop by 194 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: and see Russell for lunch, he knew we were interested. 195 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: He said, come on over, I'll show you what I found. 196 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: And the exhaust manifold, the four exhaust ports had been drilled, 197 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: but one of the exhaust ports only had been drilled 198 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: about an inch and a half down inside the manifold. 199 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: You couldn't even you couldn't even see it. And Tony 200 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: basically took he took a flexible wand and he went 201 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: down each port, and he went down one of the 202 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: ports and it was plunk that it didn't go all 203 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: the way through. And somebody didn't drill out the exhaust 204 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: manifold properly on the assembly line. And that's what made 205 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: that engine run like it did. And when I looked 206 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: at that, I always remember that because that was the 207 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: most difficult thing at the time I had ever seen. 208 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: And it made Tony feel good. You could see Tony 209 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: thump his chest and I said, you know what, that's 210 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: gotta be a great feeling. That's why I want to 211 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: be a mechanic. And while I here, I am yeah, 212 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: so thank you. Next question, Next question, what kind of 213 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: school do I need to get hired as a mechanic? 214 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: The school of heart, the school of hard knocks? You 215 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: know you need to And I get this a lot. 216 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: I think to be a mechanic. And I'll and I'll 217 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: tell you what, Madeline is our first conversation. But I 218 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: think you got more on the ball than uh, most 219 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: of the mechanics I've talked too lately. You've got desire, 220 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: and that's the first school that you have to pass 221 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: if you've got desire. My late father and always said 222 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: the cream always rises to the top, and where there's 223 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: a will, there's a way. Not to be cliche, I 224 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: think you've got to go get some kind of trade school. 225 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: But I think you've also got to realize that if 226 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: you go to a two year technical school on automotive, 227 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 1: it's only half. It's only you're you're only a half 228 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: or third of the way in. You know, just because 229 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: you graduate with a degree in hand, there's just too 230 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: many things you're going to see in real life when 231 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: you're working in the garage, in terms of what happens 232 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: and and and how and all those unexpected things that 233 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: book learning just doesn't teach you. And and to a 234 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: large degree, it's like life is like cars. And I 235 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: think I would go get a job, you know, when 236 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: you can, when you turn of working age, I would 237 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: go get a job sweeping up in a garage. If 238 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: there's a local garage that will give you a job, 239 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, from time school gets out at three o'clock 240 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: till five o'clock supper time. Just sweep the floor for 241 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: a year and just watch what the mechanics go through 242 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: and and see what they learn. And you'll see and 243 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: get the idea of what it is to fix cars. 244 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: And then from that point go take a trade school 245 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: and then from that stage get out and get into 246 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: a garage anybody that will hire you, and just listen, 247 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: don't talk a lot, ask the questions where you can, 248 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: but just be prepared to absorb what you can. And 249 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: it will take easily or to six years of an 250 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: apprenticeship of that type before you've absorbed enough that you 251 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: you can you can, you know, carry the wrench and 252 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: do it on your own. Hey, madam, I gotta pull 253 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: over and take a pause, sit tight right where you are, 254 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: all right? I don't want to. I don't want to 255 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: only do half the homework. When we come back, we'll 256 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: finish up this assignment. All right, okay, thank you, Madeline. 257 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor here with Madeline 258 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: from Green Bay, Wisconsin. We'll both be back right after 259 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: this deed. Hey, welcome back in the car doctor. Rolling 260 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: along the side. We're talking to Madeline green Bay, wiscon 261 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: and helping her with her homework. As I am the 262 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: homework this segment this hour. As we're talking to her, 263 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: she's talking to me. Actually, I'm being interviewed about being 264 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: an auto mechanic, Madeleine. Are you still there, Madeline? Wait 265 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: a minute, there you are? Yeah, there you go. I'm sorry, sweetheart. 266 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Um uh so, anyway, let's let's go. What's the next question. 267 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: The next question? What qualifies do you look for when 268 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: you hire people? That's easy, uh, you know, and I've 269 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: hired a few over over my years, and I do 270 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: a very informal interview. And but you have to understand, 271 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm a smaller repair shop where three days four if 272 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: you count the one outside, you know, at my biggest 273 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: I've only been a half a dozen guys, you know, 274 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: I do you know. Obviously I take a job application, 275 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: I will look at where they've been, what they're capable 276 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: of doing presentation. Are they neat and clean? And I'm 277 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: not looking for somebody wearing Park Avenue clothes. But I'm 278 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: looking for somebody that shows up orderly, and I have 279 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: to think about how they're going to represent my business. 280 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: That's important because appearance counts in order repair, and manners 281 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: counts in order repair, and common sense counts in order repair, 282 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: like it doesn't so many other things. But I actually 283 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: do the best part of my interview. I do a 284 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: very informal interview. And when I'm done, I usually wander 285 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: out to the shop and I start sweeping the floor 286 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: and I'll sweep and I'll sweep the floor for five 287 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: minutes and they'll watch me. Now I'll get done with 288 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: sweeping the floor, and while I'm standing there sweeping up, 289 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: once in a while, one of them will take out 290 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: a cigarette, finish the cigarette and put it out in 291 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the pile of ash on the floor, and you know, 292 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: look at me like, oh yeah, I can pick it up. 293 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll flick the ash on the floor. Sometimes they'll 294 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: leave the cigarette button a heart to get spot. Sometimes 295 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: they don't see the no smoking sign, And generally the 296 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: ones that smoke in the shop don't seem to get 297 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: the job too quick because they're not the ones that 298 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm really concerned with. Theyre not to alert. But the 299 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: one that does get the job is over the years, 300 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: have always been the ones that when I was done 301 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: sweeping the floor, they went and got the dust pan. 302 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: They figured it out all right, And I figured if 303 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: they could, if they could, if they could finish my thought, 304 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: if they could finish my sentence, then they know what 305 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, then we're compatible. Because that's probably one of 306 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: the biggest things about order to repair. You've got to 307 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: be compatible. I think whether you're in a small repair 308 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: shop or you're in a twenty person dealership, you know 309 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna be working side by side with somebody and 310 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: when they're reaching for the wrench, you've got to be 311 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: reaching for the ratchet, and you've got to know what 312 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: size off the top of your head. So anticipating somebody's 313 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: moves always impresses me. Yeah, you have to work together, Yeah, right, 314 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: exactly exactly. If you find somebody that you know you're 315 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: both reaching for the screw driver at the same time, 316 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: and it happens at the same moment. Yeah, there's a 317 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: compatibility issue there. Somebody's somebody's wired different, and that's okay. 318 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: They're just not wired for me, that's all. Yeah, Okay, anymore, 319 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: last question, last question? Okay, what things can I do 320 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: now to prepare myself for this career? How long have 321 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: you wanted to be a mechanic? Since I was four? 322 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: I started racing our C cars since I was four. Right, 323 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: what what is it that you like about I love 324 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: learning new stuff about the car, and I've built a 325 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: four wheel drive and it's interesting how things work and 326 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: how it all works together to make the car move. Right, 327 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: let me let me tell you the story this way. 328 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Let me answer your question this way. You're on the 329 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: right track, all right. Taking things apart and understanding how 330 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: they work is half the battle. When my dad passed, 331 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: my dad passed away when I was a little kid. 332 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: I was a little younger than you. I was eleven, 333 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: and I was a lost kid. My father was in 334 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: a mechanic. He was lee mechanic American Airlines during the war, 335 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: and he worked on President Roosevelt's d C three And 336 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: I remember as a little kid, I'd sit on the 337 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: fender of the car and watched my father tune up 338 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: the car before family vacation, and um, you know, I 339 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: remember my mom yelling, Harry, we've got to go. Yeah, okay, 340 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm just tuning up the car. I'll never forget it. 341 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: And I learned a lot by watching, But I think 342 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: what impressed me the most was the fact that he 343 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: could take that car and you know, it was in pieces. 344 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: And then hours later we went away on a trip. 345 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,479 Speaker 1: And my point is, after he was gone, I just 346 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: started taking things apart. I was like, you, all right, 347 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: a lot of mechanical curiosity. How does it work? And 348 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: how does it go back together? And that's the key. 349 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: So to answer your question, you know, what can you 350 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: do to prepare yourself? Keep taking things apart. Make sure 351 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: you have permission of everybody, because unfortunately I didn't. And 352 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: when I started taking things apart at the age of twelve, 353 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: my mother came out of fifteen and said, if you 354 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 1: don't start putting some of these things back together. We 355 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: had in a collection of washing machines, dishwashers, mini bikes, 356 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: go carts, all kinds of things from the neighborhood collected 357 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: in the backyard she said, you're out of here, buddy, 358 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: and I think she was kidding when she said it, 359 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: But the fact remains that taking things apart and putting 360 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: them back together taught me more than any book ever could. However, 361 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: the game has changed a little bit, and there's so 362 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: much reading involved. And if I were to if I 363 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: was gonna send somebody, if I was going to start 364 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: to build the perfect mechanic, I would definitely make sure 365 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: they know how to type, read, understand electricity, basic electricity. 366 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: I would take a physics class. I would take a 367 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: science class, just to have a basic understanding of the 368 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: relationships of things. All right, make sure you know computers, 369 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: and make sure absolutely positively you don't mind getting dirty 370 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: and you know, dogging it with things over time, because 371 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: some things are gonna stick with you and you gotta 372 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 1: have some tenacity. Hey, Madeline, the clock is gonna grab us. 373 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: But listen, I just want to let you know it's 374 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: been an absolute pleasure stay on the line. Because Tom Ray, 375 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: my engineer, wants to get your information. We're gonna send 376 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: you and your dad had a couple of card doctor 377 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: hats and T shirts and uh, we're gonna make that 378 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: you're very welcome sweetheart. Good luck to you. If you 379 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: ever need anything, put me down as a character reference, 380 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: I'll be glad to give you one. I'm Rondini and 381 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We are back right after this. Hey, 382 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: welcome back the Car Doctor rolling along to Sarah. Wasn't 383 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: that great Madeline from Green Bay Way? And I enjoyed 384 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: that immensely. It's um, it's it's it's encouraging to see 385 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: the interest that um, some young people can have today. 386 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: And uh, you realize when you get to this point 387 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: in the career, you know what, you can have an 388 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: influence and help the next generation. And that's what it's 389 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: all about, folks, paying it forward, Paying it forward anyway, 390 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: zero zero the Car Doctor phone number. Let's go over 391 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: and talk to Frank, who's waiting there very patiently and 392 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: wants to talk about a two thousand two Ford. Explore Frank, 393 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: you're on with the Car Doctor, sir? How can I help? 394 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: How are you doing good? What's going on? But what 395 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. That interview was excellent, Thank young lady. 396 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: It's a future mechanics. I want to say, I'd love 397 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: to talk to her again in ten years and see 398 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: where she ends up, because she's gonna do something great. 399 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: You can tell now that I quote you a few 400 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: weeks ago about my year two thousand explore, Um, I'm 401 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: about your fireman. And it was cold in and find 402 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: I had no heat even though we get down to 403 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: fine house quick still be nice as from heat when 404 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: you come out of the cold. And that flap the 405 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: door that stended the air sport, and you talk about 406 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: how to get at it, Um, we ended up what 407 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: we did when we called the radio out and some 408 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: of the console, we were able to get at it 409 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: and replace it very easily without taking the whole day 410 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: a sport out. Good good, Yeah, And they've made some 411 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: of that more readily available. And it depends on which 412 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: actuator actually goes bad before, whether it's the whole day 413 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: or whether it's it's just a specific component agreed agreed 414 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: well on the end of it, on the end of 415 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: that door it is, it's a there's a classic piece. 416 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: That's the one that rolls back to what right And 417 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: if it took out until I keep it COVID like 418 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: it's it's immaculate, low mileage. But what happens is they 419 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: dry out and they get a little brittle and that's 420 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: what happened. The teeth broke on it. So you can hear, 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, hearing clicking clicking clicking. But the old man's 422 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: got some heat, but doing good. Good. I'm glad to 423 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: hear it. I'm glad to hear it. Thanks. Okay, we 424 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: got your shirt. Yeah, we sent out a bunch of them. 425 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: All the Car Doctor t shirts from the previous couple 426 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: of weeks aro out and uh coming up next segment, 427 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna give away another one, and we're working on 428 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: getting rid of the truckload that somehow got over ordered. 429 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: That's going to be our goal this year is to 430 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: get as many card doccit shirts out into the public 431 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: as a great show. And thanks, thank you, thank you. 432 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Frank you take good care. Let's get 433 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: over and talk to Peter and Pomona ninety nine Volkswagen. 434 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: Some questions about oil leaks. Peter, you're own with the 435 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. How can I help? Oh? It sounds good today. 436 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: It was a very interesting segment on that young lady 437 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: who wants to have an auto mechanic. Thank you, thank you, 438 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: and I agree with you at the cars. I'm looking 439 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: too much the same lately. That's why I have a 440 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: mercury morble order and that transmission problem I to talk 441 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: to you about back in September. I got its serviced 442 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: right away when it was slipping, and it's fine as 443 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: I dodged the twenty dollar bullet of rebuilding it. Good. 444 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: Glad to hear it. How can I help you today, Peter? 445 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: My parents have a folks wack and beat with the 446 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: four cylinder engine. It has had a hundred and seven thousand, 447 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 1: five hundred miles and it's having bad oil leaks. It 448 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: looks like it's coming from the valve covers, especially at 449 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: the one at the top of the engine. And I 450 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 1: had to add four course of oil in the last month. 451 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: So what is your recommendation? How much of a how 452 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: much of a job is it, how much work is involved, 453 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,239 Speaker 1: how SPENSI will it be? And do you think it's 454 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: worth doing? How many miles are on this Peter, hundred 455 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: seven thousand. You know, the concern here becomes and oil. 456 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: Obviously we're going into the warm time of the year. 457 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: Everything has a flash point. You know. Sometimes oil leaks 458 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: on older cars. It depends on how severe they are. 459 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: You know, how fast are you adding oil? Uh? You know, 460 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: is it a court every five miles, a court every 461 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: two thousand miles. Do you have any point of reference 462 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: for how long it takes to add oil to it? 463 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: It looks like about in the last I guess it's 464 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: a month. So I suppose that's just about I had 465 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: to put in four quarts of oil. So it's starting 466 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: to get real bad now. So here's here's the first 467 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: thing I would do. I would wash everything down. I 468 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: would have a mechanic clean and wash the engine. If 469 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: we've really got a four court in five hundred miles 470 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: oil leak, the back bumper should be rustproofed. At this point, 471 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: there should be oil along the entire floor pan of 472 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: the car, and it should be hit in the back bumper. 473 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: So my concern is, at something seventeen years old, is 474 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: this old oil leaks or is it burning it internally, 475 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: which brings up a whole another set of problems. So 476 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: the only way you're gonna know for sure is wash 477 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: everything down, get it as clean as you can get it, 478 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: make sure it's draw I add a die. There's a 479 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: fluorescent die that they can add to to the oil. 480 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Add a die to the oil, and drive the car 481 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: and then in a month, check the oil level. If 482 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: you're down four quartz, but it's seeping around the valve 483 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: cover in any of the other you know, places that 484 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: it might be leaking from. If that's a seep, that's 485 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: not your leak, or that's not the majority of your leak. 486 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: It's a consumption issue. It's internal in the engine. If 487 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: after wiping everything down and including the floor pantsy, you 488 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: get an idea of you know, how far back the 489 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: oil goes, you know, if if if that's dry, no, 490 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not the leak, it's it's internal engine. 491 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: And then at that point, you know, to go through 492 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: and rebuild the engine. Four quarts is excessive. The problem 493 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: is I could sit here and say to you, heye, Peter, 494 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: oil is cheaper than an engine. But the problem is 495 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: going to also be at some point you're going to 496 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: coat the catalytic converter in the oxygen centers if it's 497 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: really four quarts of oil, and you're gonna burn up 498 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: the cat no time at all and be headed for 499 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: a major repair there. So why don't we take it 500 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: one step at a time. Let's get the engine washed down, 501 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: let's see, you know, let's get the engine as clean 502 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: as we can valve cover oil pan at any point 503 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 1: in between. Let's get some of the floor pan underneath 504 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: partially washed down so we can you know, let's let's 505 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: let's make a fire a line, so to speak. We 506 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: know that it's wet here and dry here. Let's see 507 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: does that does it get wet again in four months time? 508 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: And if so, is it wet with fluorescent dyre? Is 509 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: an old oil? It just seemed to ooze out of 510 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: the frame, But if you've really lost four quarts of oil. 511 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 1: The worst oil leak I ever saw was a ninety 512 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 1: two Volvo to forty wagon. I think I talked about 513 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: it here on here many years ago. This car. This 514 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: car had such a bad oil leak. The back bumper 515 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: was dripping oil. And that was a court in five 516 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: miles of an oil leak. It was it was, you know, 517 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: it was maybe a quart a quart and a half. 518 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: It wasn't four quarts. I'm thinking four courts as internal combustion, 519 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: or somebody measured it wrong the last time it was checked. 520 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: So let's be sure of what it is we're we're 521 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: losing and try to find out where it's coming from 522 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: before we do anything radical at this point, another thirty 523 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: days won't really matter, all right, sir, Yeah, that sounds 524 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: like an excellence suggestion. I'll definitely do that, Okay, and 525 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: then you give us a call back and we'll tell 526 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: you where we gotta go from there. All right, I'll 527 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: definitely do That's a good advice. I didn't think about that. 528 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: That's why you're the expert. That's why I'm here. I'm 529 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: here to help Peter. Thank you, sir. You have a 530 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: good rest of the day, and I'm running any in 531 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. We'll be back. T shirt winner coming 532 00:26:34,440 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: up next right after this. Hey, welcome back. Why don't 533 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor you know what at that time? Yes, sir, 534 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: we are giving away a Card Doctor T shirt. This 535 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: one comes to us. This question comes to us courtesy 536 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: of Jessica from Facebook. As we asked, if you're new 537 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: to the show and you're just tuning in, what we're 538 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: trying to do is get more information from you. See 539 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: what it is you're thinking about, what problems you're having, 540 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: and we're else trying to give you the opportunity. We're 541 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: a little Card Doctor bling if you will and get 542 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: some T shirts out into your hands. Because you know, 543 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: we know you're all looking for them. So for Jessica 544 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: Walters out on Facebook, California, we tried getting a hold 545 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: of you, but here you go. We let's answer your question. 546 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: And uh, what we're gonna do is post this question 547 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: up on Facebook. Will convert it and put it up 548 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: here on Facebook after the show today and the answer 549 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: will be there for her and everyone else. And when 550 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: Jessica contacts us, we'll be good to send her out 551 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: a car doctor T shirt, he says. She says my 552 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: question to qualify for the shirt, and I hope this 553 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 1: is more than just for the shirt, but I get 554 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: it concerns my jeep Cherokee for a leader popping a 555 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: four trouble code. I could swap out the cat and 556 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: probably be done. But I spent eleven years as an 557 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: Avionyx tech in the Navy, which taught me thorough troubleshooting 558 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: and diagnosing a problem is the proper way to do things. Hey, 559 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: no kidding. I don't have access to in a pciloscope 560 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: or fancy scan tool, only a basic code skinner. My 561 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: attempt to see what I could figure out, I tapped 562 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: into the signal wire from the upstream and downstream MO 563 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: twos with separate multimeters, one on each sensor. I then 564 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: ran the engine until it was nice and warm. My 565 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: problem is that the two rings were not the same, 566 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: which I figured would mean a dead cat. But every 567 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: now and then the downstream would be nearly the same 568 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: voltage as the upstream. Does this mean that the cat 569 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: is on its way out but not totally shot or 570 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: the two suspect? What else can I try to do 571 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: and figure this out besides going out and spending big 572 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: bucks on a scan tool or shotgunning the problem with parts. 573 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for any help you can give. This comes to 574 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: us from Jessica off the Facebook page Jessica. The problem 575 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: with trying to troubleshoot a catalytic converter without a scan 576 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: tool it's it's it's difficult. What my suggestion would be 577 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: is get out to Walker Exhaust dot com. Walker Exhaust 578 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: obviously the manufacturers of Walker exhausted. One of the neat 579 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: things is they offer some great troubleshooting tips on catalytic converters, 580 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot more than what I could explain to you 581 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: here in a simple question. But what I'm giving you 582 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: is the opportunity to look at some of their videos, 583 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: they talk about looking at catalytic converter temperature, looking at 584 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: engine temperature, because a thermostat can be the cause of 585 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: the fault of a P zero four. Oxygen sensors and 586 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: how often oxygen sensors switch, how they how they move 587 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: in relation to each other can definitely cause a P 588 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: zero code to set and in general the catalytic converter 589 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: being worn out. Now, one of the things you say 590 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: in your email is that when you look at the readings, 591 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: they were not the same, and you figured that would 592 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: mean a dead cat. Actually that's not correct. What we're 593 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: looking for is the front oxygen sensor to have a 594 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: good high low switch, meaning that it goes up in 595 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: voltage and down and voltage at a regular rate, at 596 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: a constant rate, as it's supposed to. And the rear 597 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: OH two if the catalytic converter is storing oxygen, and 598 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: that's what a catalytic converter does. One of the things 599 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: that does is it will store oxygen so that it 600 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: can later be used to convert the the emissions coming 601 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: in into harmless pollutants going out. You'll see that rear 602 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: oh two at a fixed high rate, and that way 603 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: you know that the cat is working, and it has 604 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: to be done under certain conditions more than I can 605 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: explain here. And what I'm talking about is if you 606 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: want to google oxygen storage capacity test for a catalytic converter, 607 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 1: that's one of the things we look at. And then 608 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: the other is an oxygen sensor switch rate or ratio 609 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: test of a catalytic converter. But all of this requires 610 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: a good scan tool or the ability to look at 611 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: both sensors on two separate multimeters. But however you do it, 612 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: your question was good enough to make the grade in 613 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: my book. Get out to walk or Exhaust dot com. 614 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: They've got an excellent troubleshooting section there, and as soon 615 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: as you contact us, send me an email Ron at 616 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: car Doctor show dot com and we will get a 617 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: car Doctor T shirt out to you. We'd like to 618 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: talk to you on the phone a little bit. We 619 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: will make some phone contact available for you and we 620 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: can kind of go from there and glad to count 621 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: you as part of the car Doctor family. If you 622 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: want a car Doctor T shirt, get out to the 623 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Rondanini in the Car Doctor Facebook page. Like the page. 624 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: I can't stress that enough. So many people liked the post. 625 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: That's not what it's about. Like the page. Like the page. 626 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Ask a question and if we pick yours, we'll answer 627 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: it right up here on air and send a car 628 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: doctor T shirt out to you if your very own. 629 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: More coming up as we go on into the next hour, 630 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: coming around the bend, But for right now, I'm Ronni 631 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: in the card doctor. Let me pull over and take 632 00:31:33,520 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: the pause. I'll be back right after this. Hey, welco back? 633 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: Why I mean the card point? Where'd this hour got 634 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: right by? I'm telling you, they just fly by one more. 635 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna sneak in this hour. Angela from banger Main 636 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: two Ford Fusion Angela, how can I help you? Hi? Hi? 637 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: Um So, I have a six CD changer in my 638 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: car and in there, but I can't get them out. 639 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: I went through this two weeks ago. Um, C D 640 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: changers are kind of neat. They a lot of technology 641 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: here and um uh, they're tough to deal with. Now. 642 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Is your CD changer mounted in the dashboard or is 643 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: it in the center console? US It's in the dashboard, 644 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: so it's part and parcel of the radio. So that 645 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: makes it a little more difficult. Um, were you using 646 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: just for knowledge sake, Were you using an off brand 647 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: c D or they all store bought real music? See 648 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: these are they are? You know, are these things you've 649 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: made or they you know, CDs that you've purchased as 650 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: part of a you know, regular ceeded. Well'll be honest, 651 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: it's been so long, I don't know what's in there. 652 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: Right Well, that's you know what that happens to. Um 653 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: so right now, you just went to eject something and 654 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't deject. I mean, it's been this way for 655 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: at least two years that it doesn't even register the 656 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: slot and it says there's no disks right. See, the 657 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: only way, the only way you're gonna be able to 658 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: do this is you're gonna have to pull the radio. 659 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: And before you do that, what I would tell you 660 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: to do is I would go out to I would 661 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: go out to eBay or Amazon and just Google search 662 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Ford Fusion six ced D changer 663 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: and see what comes up. You know, when I did that, 664 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: I was working on an O two tourists a couple 665 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. And when I did that, in my research, 666 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: I found out that if the worst case scenario was 667 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: the CD changer was broken and I couldn't fix it. 668 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: The guy was going to spend a hundred bucks. So 669 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, at that point I knew what the backup 670 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: plan was. I wouldn't I wouldn't fear this. The radios 671 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: aren't the worst in the world to get out? Is 672 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: either gonna be? Do you have the four holes on 673 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: the side, the two holes on each side of the radio? 674 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: Does your radio? What does your radio look like? Can 675 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: you do? You know off the top of your head, 676 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm sitting in front of it. What does it? What 677 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: does it look like? Does it is it? Are there 678 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: two small holes to the right and left of the 679 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: radio where it looks like along dowel rod would go in? Okay, okay, 680 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: so it's right, okay. So that means the cowl trim 681 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: is going to have to come apart and they'll be 682 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: screws there. So what I would tell you then is 683 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,439 Speaker 1: get out to YouTube and see if anybody lists oh 684 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: eight Ford Fusion radio removal and they'll break it out. 685 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: And then once you get the radio out, what you're 686 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: looking for is you're looking for, for lack of a 687 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: better word, you're looking for an anomaly. You look for 688 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: a disc that fell out of a a tray. Remember 689 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: remember in school we had lunch on the tray, okay, right, 690 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: and then when somebody came along and clipped your tray, 691 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: your food went to the side and sometimes fell on 692 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: the floor. One of your one of your c ds 693 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: is about to get clipped. It's it's it's falling off 694 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: the tray like the food was. So if you can 695 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: get the radio out, there should be a way to 696 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: look in. There's a lot of screws in here. I 697 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: have to warn you, Um, this is where the government 698 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: puts all the extra screws. And once you get some 699 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: covers off, keeping in mind, you can't break it any 700 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: worse than it is. You're looking for a CD in 701 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: a tray that are out of line, and you know 702 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: that's that's really what you're after here. So but I 703 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: would I would do it via eBay. I would do 704 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: it via Amazon and YouTube. Between those three those three resources, uh, 705 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: you should be able to find some information on how 706 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: to get it out and then what it's gonna cost 707 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: if you just have to replace the whole unit. Hey angel, 708 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: let me let me make your life a little easier. 709 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: I I like your pluck and I like your spirit. 710 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: Stay on the line. Tom is gonna get your information. 711 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: Let's send you out a card Doctor T shirt and 712 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: hopefully that makes your day a little bit better than 713 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: it is while you're trying to struggle with your CD. 714 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: Is that okay? You're You're very welcome, Angela. You take 715 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: you take good care. Stay on the line. Tom will 716 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and talk to you shortly. We'll 717 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,479 Speaker 1: get that out to you in due time. Hey, wasn't 718 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: it a great show? I'll tell you what, Madeline At 719 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: the top of the hour, a little twelve year old 720 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 1: from Green Bay, Wisconsin wanting to become an auto mechanic. 721 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: Nothing better than that, folks. Not bad for a little 722 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: dinky radio show that I keep getting to do. God 723 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: bless I'm Ronningadian. The card doctor mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. 724 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: See you