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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and

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Speaker 1: Greg Girls. What's up? Boys? Really stretched out that Greg

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Speaker 1: right there? I like it. Listen. I'm in a good mood.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a good mood right now. Why, Well, Monday

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Speaker 1: Night football is It's a great watch. It's always good

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Speaker 1: to give the Boss props and stretch out his name

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Speaker 1: on audio when any chance you get. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: that Will leading nothing game with ten minutes left or whatever,

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Speaker 1: full of excitement Monday Night we do I have to

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Speaker 1: call out that you didn't really watch a game. I'm

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Speaker 1: just so if you're gonna go after the game. Jets

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Speaker 1: played a marvelous defensive game and uh scored enough points

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Speaker 1: to win. And we'll get into all that the undefeated

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Speaker 1: we have a great show ahead of us. Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: how are you? How are you doing? Buddy? Couldn't be

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Speaker 1: better today? In your rich blue NFL Network polo like

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Speaker 1: a royal blue. It is definitely Royal Mark. You're wearing

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Speaker 1: a gray polo shirt, Well it's you know, we have

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Speaker 1: to do some TV stuff later. I just basically wear

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Speaker 1: pull something off the stack, just off a clump of

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Speaker 1: into the real shirt later. Really doesn't that just seem

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Speaker 1: Then it saves you trouble. That's just how I do it, Greg.

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Speaker 1: I like to make things more complicated than they need

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Speaker 1: to be. Everybody has their own methods. Are you like

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Speaker 1: dan Um taking advantage of the ironing service over at makeup?

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Speaker 1: I do my own, my own house types with reality

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Speaker 1: we all have making You guys, I never got my

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Speaker 1: shirt arm make fun of me for the haircuts you're getting,

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Speaker 1: Well you deserved of iron. That was still Greg. The

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Speaker 1: fact that you went behind everyone's back, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: almost as low as killing the hero picks. I would

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Speaker 1: and that will continue if I can. All right, So, yes,

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Speaker 1: this is the Tuesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot coming up. The Monday night football recap.

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Speaker 1: As I said, we are going to hit, some news,

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on, a lot of QB

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Speaker 1: have a Thursday night football prey, and I see this

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Speaker 1: is this is what this is about. The wheel keeps turning.

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Speaker 1: The wheel keeps turning. Monday becomes Thursday, Thursday becomes Sunday,

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Speaker 1: Sunday becomes Monday, Monday becomes Tuesday, Tuesday becomes Thursday. You

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Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. Thursday Night preview Redskins, Giants and

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Speaker 1: NFC East Tilt. There's a rhythmic nature to the season.

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Speaker 1: It's episodical, this whole week, like each day coming after another,

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Speaker 1: that's been going on. Came up with this calendar for decades.

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Speaker 1: In fact, time has worked, dan is pointing, note to

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Speaker 1: what what is another? What? One monster weeks of this

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Speaker 1: and on to June. In our annual November burnout Happy,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel burnt out, but I mean, let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: Week two you might mean it's we're barely into it.

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Speaker 1: We've got months and months and months and many more

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Speaker 1: months to go. A little quiet at your desk today, Mark.

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Speaker 1: Some speculation that there might be a September burnout this year.

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Speaker 1: I am simply at my desk doing work in our office,

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Speaker 1: in our newsroom. That's that's that's an absolute aberration. It

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Speaker 1: don't know. The September seems better burnout. It's been over

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Speaker 1: three weeks since its last burnout. Yes, And then finally

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Speaker 1: many oh and two teams? Greg, how many and two teams? Nine? Nine?

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Speaker 1: The three of you have very good it's all coming

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where the New York Jets use stifling defense

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Speaker 1: who was their second round pick from a year ago,

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Speaker 1: and then they cut him after that game, and I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of thinking, like, it just seems like a

425
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Speaker 1: weird organization where the head coach is just absolutely crushing

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Speaker 1: the team the pick he took a year ago in

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Speaker 1: the second round, and they cut him after the game,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, you're the guy who took him. It's

429
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Speaker 1: your fault that you took him. Like, I know you're mad,

430
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: it's you know him. But it's like it's a lot

431
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Speaker 1: of decisions like that where they're mad at Junior glet

432
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Speaker 1: but they're they're the ones that gave him the money.

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Speaker 1: They're not happy with Jimmy Graham. Well, they're the ones

434
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Speaker 1: that gave him the money. Starting to think Sean Payton

435
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: might not be a nice guy. It's possible. I wonder

436
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Speaker 1: if there would ever be if two teams melted down.

437
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: Dallas doesn't have a quarterback right now and Saints don't

438
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Speaker 1: have a quarterback. Potentially that you have a coach flip

439
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Speaker 1: where Garrett takes over the Saints next year and Peyton

440
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Speaker 1: goes where he's always wanted to go to. Cowboys lives

441
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Speaker 1: in Dallas. Jerry Jones loves Jr. Jes loves Jason Garrett too, though,

442
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Speaker 1: does but if you talk about a team that might

443
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Speaker 1: need to change a pace at some point, that could

444
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Speaker 1: be too. I can't believe you didn't bring up the big,

445
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Speaker 1: the other big story here that Luke McCown America's Darling

446
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Speaker 1: just about to say it an actual quote in my

447
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Speaker 1: favorite new commercial of the NFL season, Luke McCown pimping

448
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Speaker 1: Verizon products. Here's the quote. I bet if they just

449
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: had the chance, some of those backups would really shine.

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Speaker 1: How do you think that might say? How do you

451
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Speaker 1: think that meeting went on the third floor of a

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Speaker 1: Verizon headquarters when they decided to get Luke McCown to

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Speaker 1: pitch their commercial. Well, we're talking about it, talking about it.

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Speaker 1: It's working, but also bad idea for a commercial in

455
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Speaker 1: the sense that so many backup quarterbacks wind up plane

456
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Speaker 1: that at some point, out of which backup you pick,

457
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Speaker 1: disaster is gonna strike. You think that that affects the

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Speaker 1: commercial itself. They should have picked someone so deep in

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Speaker 1: the distance. It makes no sense anymore. You got to

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Speaker 1: pull the ad. He's not a backup, pull the plug

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Speaker 1: of the entire million dollar campaign. I say, find a backup.

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Speaker 1: That's a third string guy, that's gonna you know so much,

463
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Speaker 1: way back and way back. But not everyone has the

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Speaker 1: comic timing of a Lucana Robert I did not realize

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Speaker 1: that he was such an asset, or the looks. Or

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Speaker 1: if you're Verizon, you got a lot of cash in

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Speaker 1: your pocket, you go straight to Peyton and Mickey Loomis.

468
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Speaker 1: You say, hey, we're gonna give you a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: You play Garrett Grayson. Keith McCown is the backup. You'll

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Speaker 1: get the number one pick next year. Everyone's happy. Well,

471
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Speaker 1: they got to double down with Garrett Grayson. That's what

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Speaker 1: you do. Three. Well, who's more buried than r G three?

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Speaker 1: That could have been your commercials talked the subway about

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Speaker 1: how that worked out. No more RG three, All right.

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Speaker 1: Other injury news, this involving Tony Romo, who we know,

476
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Speaker 1: of course fractured, is clavick hole in the second half

477
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Speaker 1: of the Cowboys over the Eagles on Sunday. The team

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Speaker 1: confirmed Tuesday at Romo was placed on I R Boomerang, which,

479
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Speaker 1: to those that are uninitiated, that is the injured reserve

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Speaker 1: slash designated to Return list UH insurance he'll miss at

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Speaker 1: least the next eight weeks. He's eligible to return to

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Speaker 1: action UH in time for the team's week twelve Week

483
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Speaker 1: eleven matchup against the Dolphins, but that is not a guarantee.

484
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Speaker 1: But that is the first Condy possibly can play. Mark ahead, Well,

485
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Speaker 1: I want to say that nothing, nothing greater has happened

486
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Speaker 1: in my own career. The fact that West and I

487
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Speaker 1: think one morning just casually cooked up I I R

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Speaker 1: boomerang as a terminus sitting at the top of nfl

489
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Speaker 1: dot com stack. We're proud. It's still completely not caught

490
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Speaker 1: on with the rest of the football community, an on

491
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Speaker 1: with the rest of the news desk that it was

492
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Speaker 1: taken some heat from from some unnamed shadowy does here's

493
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Speaker 1: the thing, here's the thing, Like it's a very fine line,

494
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Speaker 1: and I'll use somewhat of an esoteric example, but dead' spen.

495
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Speaker 1: It bothers me that dead Spin has been pushing ball

496
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Speaker 1: Ghazi all throughout the deflate Gate scandal, and they're like

497
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Speaker 1: for jamming it down everyone's throats and it never took,

498
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Speaker 1: but they keep using it. It might be we might

499
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Speaker 1: be in a similar situation. We're not trying to be

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Speaker 1: fancy and timely with some kind of newsy name. Really

501
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: this this functions like a boomerang, and it's a call.

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Speaker 1: It's brilliant. I love it to call back to a

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Speaker 1: cultural thing from our friends in Australia that should be

504
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Speaker 1: getting more attention. Well now it's now you're stretching. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: By the way, Tony Romo's out eight weeks. Yea. But

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Speaker 1: here's the one thing I also want to mention about

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Speaker 1: this situation. We don't have to spend too much time

508
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Speaker 1: on this, but here's the good news for Cowboys fans.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones told a Dallas radio station that Brandon Weedon

510
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Speaker 1: here's the quote. Frankly, Frankly, you won't see a more

511
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Speaker 1: gifted passer power, accuracy. The entire aspect of it. This

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Speaker 1: is you know Mark as you know Brandon Weeden, uh,

513
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Speaker 1: despite going seven of seven on Sunday without warming up

514
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Speaker 1: on the sideline, is a guy that is a passer,

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Speaker 1: rating about seventy three and a six and fifteen as

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Speaker 1: a starter. No outside of Blake Borders, no quarterback has

517
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Speaker 1: a lower QBR in his career over the last four years.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been an absolute disaster. He called him

519
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Speaker 1: a thing of beauty, and I think that's just classic

520
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones trying to give up my why one thing

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Speaker 1: with Brandon Weed, and I think we've gone over to

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Speaker 1: thousand times. What's it? What the issues are with his play?

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Speaker 1: He does not strike me as a quarterback with any

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Speaker 1: amount of confidence, and he has had nothing in his

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Speaker 1: career happened to build that confidence. You see him on

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Speaker 1: the bench and right he's just sitting there and the

527
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Speaker 1: look on his face is one of absolute terror that

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Speaker 1: he's absolutely an element. And you know when this all started,

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Speaker 1: the lack. He was a confident man when he was

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Speaker 1: a high school star. He was confident in college, he

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Speaker 1: was confident when he's a baseball Star's confident when he

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Speaker 1: got drafted in the first round in the NFL. And

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Speaker 1: then what happened Mark Well opening game, all the soldiers

534
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Speaker 1: are out, all the trumpets, and Randon Weed and doesn't

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00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: realize to get off the field and he gets caught

536
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: under a gigantic outside the American flag literally literally a

537
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: giant red flag. That's the first thing you do as

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. He was down there for months, finally

539
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: emerges on the wrong sideline and nothing's improved since. In

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00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: other injury news, Jay Cutler is out at least two

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Speaker 1: weeks with a hamstring injury. This according to rap Sheet

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Speaker 1: uh he suffered it while attempting to make a tackle

543
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Speaker 1: during a pick six, which is funny, but it's not

544
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: funny that anyone gets hurt because you don't root for injuries. However,

545
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: Cutler could be out longer, which opens the door for

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Clausen. And I'll see you, Luke McCown making the

547
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Speaker 1: Saints of the worst NFL team, and raise you Jimmy

548
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: Clausen making the Bears potentially historically often started a game

549
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: for performance reasons last year. That was a bad decision

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Speaker 1: to that's fair. They're going to Seattle this week, so

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Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't matter if you have j Cutler

552
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Speaker 1: or not. I do think this is the worst team

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Speaker 1: overall in the NFL if everyone's healthy, because I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't know why they have that they can really

555
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: hang on too. They got a couple of skilled disition players,

556
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: but that's it. I'm no college expert, but I heard

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00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: there's some good quarterback prospects just going to Tank Bears.

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00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: What do the three these three injured quarterbacks, what do

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00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: they have become? They're all thirty white years or older.

560
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Start of the season. Ten quarterbacks were thirty two years

561
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: or older. Of them have already been injured. They're also white. True?

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Speaker 1: Is that where I don't think West was going there?

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Speaker 1: Primarily I'm saying that old quarterbacks are more likely to

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Speaker 1: get injured than young quarterbacks. Not to I know, not

565
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: to go back to Roman by the way, but it is.

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Speaker 1: It was just thinking, is interesting you didn't put Dez

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Speaker 1: Bryan on there, that they put Roma on it, that

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00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: they're more confident Romans gonna be out longer than we

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Speaker 1: had talked about. Roma's four to six weeks. At this point,

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00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: three to five weeks potentially is eight weeks. Romans is

571
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: more finite. I mean you're getting six eight weeks regardless.

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Speaker 1: Where the Irishman has another point to make about what

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Speaker 1: we said. They're on the NFC all well, the fourth

574
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Speaker 1: guy is Josh McCown. Who's in the air, well, right,

575
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Speaker 1: they've all never been in my kitchen. I heard what's

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Speaker 1: similarity between the three? Hey? You know this newfound love

577
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: of Brandon Weeden to Greg have I don't have a

578
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: love of saying they can survive with a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What was that quote? They can survive s This is

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Speaker 1: a This is a quote from Greg Rosenthal last year.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys will struggle to win any games with weed

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00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: and behind scene it's a totally different team though. That's

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00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: also it would also spend good, right, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to Margot, Marie and Dev Bryant. I would like to

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Speaker 1: make the suggestion that we don't go back into any

586
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Speaker 1: of our posts from last year because we could probably

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Speaker 1: fish out talking about evaluating one player and he hasn't

588
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: played a snap since. We can go back to last

589
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: week and talk about the Lions as a playoff team

590
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Speaker 1: and for Andrew Luck, m v P picks Wed and

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Speaker 1: haven't played a snap since you wrote that evaluation. Then

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Speaker 1: now you're changing it look good a potential game. Each

593
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: one of us gets like a you know, a Christmas

594
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: thing where you pull someone's name, I've it had and

595
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: we go back and find the most out of interesting

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Speaker 1: that that person is written on NFL dot com and

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00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: you bring it to the show, there would be no

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00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: shortage for any of us. All Right. Finally, uh, bad

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00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: news out of Minnesota where Ragnar, who has been the

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Speaker 1: man on the sidelines. He dresses as a north a

601
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Speaker 1: Norse pillager. He's been there guy since ninety four. He

602
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: drives around on a motorcycle. Very crazy person. He's out

603
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: after making a bold power play. And keep this in mind,

604
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking at you, Mark uh. In upcoming contract negotiations,

605
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: he took a hardline stance. He said he wanted twenty

606
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Speaker 1: thous dollars per game to continue in the role as Ragnar.

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Speaker 1: His name, by the way is Joe Geronic. Up from

608
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Speaker 1: fift hundred per game. That adds up two hundred and

609
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Speaker 1: sixty grand a year, or two underground if you put

610
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Speaker 1: in the preseason game. He wanted like a one percent raise.

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Speaker 1: And here's what the Minnesota Viking said, Uh, no, you're

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Speaker 1: by it. If he's a Norse pillager who is riding

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Speaker 1: around on a moped using American currency, it's a very

614
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: confused individual. Is what made him think that he had

615
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Speaker 1: any kind of leverage, like the Ravens aren't going to

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00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: hire him to play ragar in their team, and it's

617
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: easy to replace him to just another guy with a beard,

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00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: who is who is advising him to go up? Why

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Speaker 1: did not go to five? That seems like a pretty

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00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: big jump. It's over three of an increase. Another viking

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Speaker 1: with no sense of money? What about? Yeah, by the way,

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Speaker 1: they know how to pillage, but they don't know how

623
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Speaker 1: to say. But I'm sure I'm going to arrest, stop

624
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: and find any number of old men with beards and

625
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Speaker 1: motorcycle just if you want an exact number. He was

626
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Speaker 1: asking for a one thousand, two hundred and thirty three

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Speaker 1: percent raised to those people, do you have an agent

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Speaker 1: if you're a mascot? Not anymore? They pulled off the street. Basically,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's what's happening. The name of the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's gonna be my new crusade. It sounds like, well,

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Speaker 1: what's worse than that? That are the l A Lakers,

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Speaker 1: which are based off Minnesota. Thousands of lakes. There's not

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Speaker 1: a lake in l A. You should start a website

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Speaker 1: and just right in Minnesota and and not say that,

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Speaker 1: and then you can just see it every time where

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Speaker 1: it's bad grammar, all good options, good discussion, guys, Sorry, Ragnar,

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to Thursday night football. Let's talk about

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Speaker 1: a quick talk. Uh no, actually, you know what. Let's

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Speaker 1: do this first. Let's talk about let's say that for

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Speaker 1: last little T and F talk, let's talk about we

641
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Speaker 1: have nine oh and two teams, right, Greg, that's correct,

642
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Speaker 1: and all of them are in trouble on some level.

643
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a stat that tells you the percentage

644
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Speaker 1: of teams that start owing to don't make the playoffs

645
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Speaker 1: is probably pretty high. But we see every year teams

646
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Speaker 1: dig themselves out, although there's been a bunch in the

647
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Speaker 1: last couple of years. So let's go around the room

648
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Speaker 1: and I'll start with you Mark Sessler, which and again

649
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Speaker 1: read on NFL dot com. Gregg has a post up

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Speaker 1: where he really digs in vanity or ELF slash teams

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Speaker 1: in trouble. Really, Yes, I love value U r L S.

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Speaker 1: So check that out NFL dot Com slash teams in trouble? Mark,

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00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: who is the O and two team that is in

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Speaker 1: the biggest trouble. I'm gonna go with where we thought

655
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Speaker 1: they were and where they are, and that's the Baltimore

656
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Speaker 1: Ravens here. Oh and two, and you just played a

657
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Speaker 1: game in Oakland. I understand you open with the Broncos.

658
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: You need to come out of that one and one

659
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: because of what's coming up next. You got the Bengals,

660
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers, and the Browns three games in a row.

661
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: Then you have back to back trips to the West

662
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Coast to play the forty Niners and Cardinals. After that

663
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Speaker 1: you've got the Chargers. That's a tough, tough schedule. And

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Speaker 1: the problem for me a little bit is, yes, you

665
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: move the ball well against the Raiders despite the fact

666
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Speaker 1: that you don't really have a downfield threat without Brashad

667
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Speaker 1: Perriman in the mix. Steve Steve Smith is your best

668
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: player right now. Your second best target is Crockett Gilmore,

669
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Speaker 1: a second year tight end. And your defense just gave

670
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: up four plus yards to the Oakland Raiders, who haven't

671
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: put a dent in any one in a year plus.

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Speaker 1: So there are a lot of things. The Ravens are

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00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: a good team that typically they get into it. If

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Speaker 1: they get into a want they figure it out. But

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Speaker 1: this is they haven't been known two since two thousand

676
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: and five and they don't seem like a team that

677
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: quite knows who they are in Did they make the

678
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: playoffs that year? They could easily be two and oh,

679
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: but I think not easily. They lost by basically a

680
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: play in both of them. I don't like about a

681
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: team that's giving up thirty seven points. I'm just saying

682
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: that fair enough, like some some two and oh teams

683
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: like the fire coming at you by the way I

684
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: was gonna say. I agree though, that they're in deep trouble,

685
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: not only because they don't have something they can depend on,

686
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: but because of what you mentioned in terms of the schedule.

687
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's an issue for the entire AFC North,

688
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: that it's going to be difficult to get two teams.

689
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Speaker 1: You play the NFC West out of division, you have

690
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Speaker 1: very tough in division games, So that makes a bigger

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Speaker 1: hole at O too. Yeah, I think I think that. Personally.

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Speaker 1: I think the Steelers are in very good position to

693
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Speaker 1: make the PLAYFFS. I think the Bengals look really good,

694
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with you. If this was a

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Speaker 1: year of the Ravens were gonna miss it, this makes sense.

696
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: Chris Westling your pick Texans are in huge trouble. You

697
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: can mask a lot of weaknesses in NFL. He can't

698
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: mask bag quarterback play. And Bill O'Brien told us, told

699
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: the whole world, these two guys are great players, and

700
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: nobody appreciates this. And Bill show the world really offended

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Speaker 1: West that he insulted our Well, it's it's the same

702
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: thing that Jerry Jones said, like quit quit selling us

703
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: and Bill of goods, guys, we've we've seen these players.

704
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: And Brian Hoyer he got benched because he has a

705
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: mechanical flaw. He patted the ball before every throw and

706
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: stared down receivers. They put Mallett in. He stares down

707
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: receivers and then tries to throw a hole through him.

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00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't lead his receivers in any way. He's a

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Speaker 1: wait and see quarterback. He waits to see his receivers

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00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: get open. Throws as hard as he can, and he

711
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: has no accuracy or touch. He's basically Brandon Weeded. He

712
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: has Colin Kaepernick disease. I actually wrote that as one

713
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: of my notes when I rewatched that game, which is,

714
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Speaker 1: if there's a receiver five yards in front of him,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. He's gonna throw the fastball. It's like

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Speaker 1: he took off I forget which he might have been

717
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: cecil shorts. He back practically broke his hands on one

718
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: of the plays, and and it led to the end

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00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: of a possession. Bill O'Brien on Hard Knocks Nobody talks

720
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: about the Houston Texans because nobody thinks we're gonna win.

721
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: And the disrespect they show our quarterbacks. I'm tired of

722
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: that too, because both those kids can play. They just

723
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: need a chance, and one of them is going to

724
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: get it. They can play. They can play so much

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00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: that you gave him three quarters in the openers to

726
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: let him prove that. You were so prescient and your

727
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: critique of American society. If you love yeah, if you

728
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: love uh, if you watch Hard Knox, you love Bill O'Brien.

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00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: He came up so well. I know, I don't love

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Speaker 1: him well from as a person, as a as a

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Speaker 1: human guy. I love your recaps of it. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what I basically saved it. Wait you didn't. You weren't

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Speaker 1: touched by Brig's right. I'm really having a hard time

734
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Speaker 1: getting over this. Bill O'Brien getting so upset about people

735
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: critiquing his crappy quarterbacks and then he pulls them after

736
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 1: three quarters. Way to stage your ground, Bill O'Brien, that's

737
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: how coaches though. They come this rising as my Brandon

738
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: weed in love. You're just total fact, you know, fascination

739
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: with this one little bit who by the way, he's

740
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: a Belichick disciple, and you carry the war and for

741
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots all the way up to Hill. I like

742
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: the Patriots. They run a great operation. But Belichick doesn't

743
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: go around saying, hey, look, Brian Hoyer can play. Looks

744
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: like Rex. Ryan says. A lot of a lot of

745
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: guys who try to beat Belichick leaving that building. Not many.

746
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Speaker 1: My pick for owned two team in the biggest trouble

747
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: is the cults that talked about him earlier. This team

748
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: is soft. It's a soft team, and it reminds me

749
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: in orderminds me of and they might who knows, they

750
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: might go tenant six in this terrible division and make

751
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: the plasma. It doesn't mean I have to take them

752
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: seriously because they look like an early two thousands Payton

753
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: Manning team. Crappy defense and the young quarterback making too

754
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: many mistakes trying to make up for it and with it.

755
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: There's major questions about skill physicians in my mind, especially

756
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, a lot of pressure on Frank Gore to

757
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: carry the load on offense and the why Hilton to

758
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Other than the Seahawks, I think they're in

759
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: the best shape of any O N two team because

760
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: they have Andrew lock who we all think is gonna

761
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: be a great quarterback, and they're in the n f

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Speaker 1: C South. It's just the ultimate arracer. It's the ultimate Okay,

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00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: it's fine, We're gonna fix everything. Okay. This week is

764
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: a perfect example. They are O in two and everything

765
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: looks terrible. The next three games are Tennessee, Jacksonville and Houston,

766
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: and and maybe they'll have an ugly win this week

767
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: and things will look a little better next week. Suddenly

768
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: things will be rolling. Against Houston. You're three and two,

769
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: he's six and seen and the six wins against that division.

770
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: I think that the type of whatever a different team

771
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: than last season. And the Jaguars at Blake Bortles continues.

772
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: We gotta read define redefined, biggest trouble Like, Yeah, they'll

773
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: probably make the playoffs, but I think they'll get wiped

774
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: out as soon as they play a good team in

775
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And for a team that's supposed to go

776
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. That's what I'm I can make

777
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: a strong argument there'll be a much stronger team in January.

778
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: They played the second half last night without the top

779
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: four cornerbacks on their roster, and they had a pretty

780
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: good run defense. They've had a pretty good run deep.

781
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: It's two weeks in a row, so I don't think

782
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: that their defense is terrible. Their offense. Andrew Luck traditionally

783
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: has done well against blitzens, So this is a two

784
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: game admiration. Andre Johnson. Maybe he's still getting his chemistry

785
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: with Andrew Luck, and and Luck has to see that

786
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't need separation to make a play. T

787
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Y Hilton playing with a bum knee, Philip Dorset not

788
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: yet up to speed, offensive line not jelling yet. You

789
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: can say that these guys will be a much better

790
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: team in a few months. On thing I've learned on

791
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: the Throne of Ease is that September has no relation

792
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: to January at all. Is putting, but I'm talking about

793
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: in general. All of this is putting wins in the

794
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: standings that you need that you're gonna need to get

795
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: to January. But I don't think teams in September have

796
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: almost any connection. The football is about building your team

797
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: throughout the season, and I do think the Colts have

798
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: the pieces that they could be one of those teams

799
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: that gets a lot better throughout the sea. Is their

800
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: roster weaker than it was last year? I don't think so.

801
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: Is it better? Yes? I really don't agree with. I

802
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: don't think you compare the Indianapolis Colts to the New

803
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: England Patriots on any level right now. And Dan's point

804
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: is where the expectations are the Colts are and where

805
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, the Patriots has started two and one

806
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: or one and two a few times, but they've done

807
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: it and they've gotten to twelve and four over and

808
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: over and over and over. The cults inside internally are

809
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: a hot mess right now. From everyone that we're hearing from,

810
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. The Patriots are absolutely seal tight

811
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: year after year. There's no I mean that for all teams.

812
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: I mean the Seahawks start off slow, the Patriots start

813
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: off fast, And I kind of think it doesn't really

814
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: mean that much right now either, because they need to

815
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: be building throughout this season. They were three and oh

816
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: the year they were defending the title two and they

817
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. I'm just saying they have the

818
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: pieces in where they can figure some things out, and

819
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: you have to go back a decade plus stunned playoffs.

820
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I want to be stunned either. If this all went

821
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: to hell, then they win eight games and don't even

822
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: go to the I think they have a stronger roster

823
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: than they did it in January, and I think after

824
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: two games, I'm not writing them off like anything can

825
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: happen in the next three months. Greg Well, I had

826
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: the Saints. I wrote this article. I didn't even count

827
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: the Bears is one of the teams, UH that should

828
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 1: be included because we thought they were going to be

829
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: terrible and they are terrible, so just forget about them.

830
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I put the Saints number one as the team in

831
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: the most trouble because there was legitimate expectations. I wrote

832
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: that before Drew Brees was hurt, so I think, you

833
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: know it's doubly true. Now we've already talked about UH

834
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: this team at length, but to me, there their season

835
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: if he misses a week or two is essentially over.

836
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: And like I said, I think they could be the

837
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft if he misses half

838
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: the season something like that. Since percent of teams that

839
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,879
Speaker 1: start oh and to make the playoffs, so basically, one

840
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: of these nine teams mathematically will make the playoffs, right

841
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: and I and I would if I had to get

842
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 1: I think more than one. Because you got the Seahawks

843
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: and the Colts both in there, you gotta think they

844
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: got a chance. I think the Eagles still have a

845
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: chance at least in that division, So I think for sure.

846
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: The Ravens seemed to me the one that yeah is

847
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: I think Mark Brais is a good point. You're in

848
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: a tough division. He started out oh and two, and

849
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: the math is working against Detroit's the other one that

850
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: immediately came to mind because their their next weeks are tough,

851
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: and they don't really have anything that they've looked good

852
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: doing so far. I think I think we might have

853
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: blown it. One of us should have talked about the Lions.

854
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: We we on Sunday. The Irishman, by the way, has

855
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: a point or a factory or from our research department

856
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: back here, D'Angelo sent two thousand nine team to start,

857
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: owing to two of them have made the playoffs. It's

858
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: getting harder. D' Angelo, by the way, a rising star

859
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 1: behind the glass. He'll be producing the show in about

860
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: a week, so it's promising. Maybe you can get uh,

861
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 1: never mind, all right, we'll leave it at that. I's

862
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: had something cooking, all right, let's uh, let's wrap the

863
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: show by talking about Thursday night football, and the time

864
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: is a flat circle. We're not talking about Week three?

865
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: Mark interesting, Yes, and the Redskins. Washington Redskins win last

866
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: week over the Rams, uh, a type of win that

867
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: instills hope and Mark was talking up their defense in

868
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: our last show. And now they have a big matchup

869
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Division matchup against the New York Giants, who should be

870
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: two and oh if not for some monumental errors by

871
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: their quarterback and by their coach and a complete inability

872
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: to close there instead oh and two after another loss,

873
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: this time to the Falcons at home. So uh, here's

874
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: a game between two teams that really need it. Our

875
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: thoughts start with us. I watched the Redskins game last night,

876
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: and I can't always thinking they should be the team

877
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: of a t o. Hell no, oh my gosh, I

878
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: kind of agree with West. We we talked about this

879
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter. I don't get it. You don't like teams

880
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: with with that are held back by their quarterbacks. Their

881
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: coaching is telling you they believe they're held back by kirt. No, no,

882
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: no exciting, don't get worth. I don't dislike teams held

883
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: back for the quarterbacks. I dislike teams with inept quarterbacks.

884
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is anything but in net. Oh yeah, he's

885
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: any he can move in He every time he started,

886
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: he moved the offense. He was You and I like

887
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: different things about quarterbacks and hate different things about quarterbacks.

888
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: I can't stand quarterbacks don't move the offense. They scored.

889
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't care about the turnovers so much. They scored

890
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: ten points. They moved, they missed field goals, they missed opportunities,

891
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: They moved the offense. He also through a mind numbing interception. Again,

892
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: that doesn't bother me nearly as much as sheering attitude

893
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: and not being able to move the office. Also, not

894
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: just Cousins, I mean the way that their offense is

895
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: formed right now. They have basically Jeff Fisher came out

896
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: of the Rams games saying, this is this year's Dallas Cowboys.

897
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: That's what their line is. Because they have a second

898
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: in the league behind the Cowboys in time of possession.

899
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: Matt Jones looks like a Rookie of the Year candidate.

900
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: He's running the ball very well and they don't need

901
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins throw the ball forty four times. I got

902
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: in trouble last year when they put him in those

903
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of games. I think, if you were in it's

904
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: stupid to even talk like this. But if you were

905
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 1: just looking at great coaching performances. For the first two weeks,

906
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden and the Redskins have done a unbelievable job.

907
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: They had them in position really should have won that

908
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: Week one. They are minimizing Kirk cousins weaknesses by not

909
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 1: allowing him to do too much quick passes. He's looked

910
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: good and the running game looks unbelievable. Like you said,

911
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Alfred Morris is getting You know, he's a

912
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: great backup running back, but that's what he is right

913
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: now because they had Matt Jones in at the end

914
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: of the game when it matters what he should be.

915
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: It's what he said. Morris has ran really well the

916
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: last two games too, but you have you have a

917
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: situation where he's getting caught while he's going laterally by

918
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: Michael Brocker's whereas Matt Jones is running thirty nine yards

919
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: down the field like that's a big boy who can

920
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: catch the ball, who could be short yard. I think

921
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: he's got everything that you would want in like a

922
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 1: top five or six NFL back. But there's much less

923
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: leaning that team. Only a handful of humans on the

924
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: planet that move like that. That's all I'm saying. Alfred

925
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: Morris is great. I just say I don't think more

926
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: so like a thirty five yard run two, because that

927
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: line is getting breaking some holes in Young Coach of

928
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: the Year assistant, how about that? I agree Morris looked

929
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: dynamite in the open. I don't think either of the

930
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: one of these guys is going away. They're gonna run.

931
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: They want to run at thirty five to forty times

932
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: a game game, So that's the And look, he's not

933
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Matt Jensen, the only exciting guy on this offense. Jordan

934
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: Reid is playing lights out, so he pulls his hamstring

935
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: and it's the most positive redskin stock we've had unversally,

936
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: and then good things changed. Jason Hatchers playing totally whipped

937
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: as a group because I think universally we picked him

938
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: as the worst team any well. Weeks ago we had

939
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: a huge caveat on that we picked when r G

940
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: three with r G three wasn't gonna remain the quarterback

941
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 1: who thought he was going to start. Look, if you

942
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: enter the season with a guy understander who has been

943
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: a cancer to your team, it's easy to pick them

944
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: to be thirty second in the league. If you open

945
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: the season no one saw the defense. And granted they've

946
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: only played the Dolphins and the Rams, but they've done

947
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: a really nice job. Like you mentioned, Jason Hatcher, Keenan

948
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: Robinson and Perry Riley playing good in the middle. Preston Smith,

949
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: the rookie, played great. I mean, we were talking about mcgluwen,

950
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: but really a lot of these guys are Bruce Allen's

951
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: picks that are playing the most snaps. I mean, the

952
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: mcgluen picks A nine aren't on the field a ton

953
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: for this team. It's guys like Jason Hatcher, who didn't

954
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: look like a good signing, you know, stepping up playing

955
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: for there was There was a beat writer that actually

956
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: wrote an article apologizing because he was so wrong about

957
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 1: the Redskins before the season, and I think it's one

958
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: of the teams that tons of people whipped on because

959
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: you just automatically look at it's a chaotic quarterback situation

960
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: that you don't look at that what's happening with the

961
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: rest of the time. I can't blame anybody for whipping

962
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: on the Redskins when they thought that RG three would

963
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: be the quarterback because he forgot how to play. I

964
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: think most people I would have said, listen, you're gonna

965
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: get RG three, but you're gonna get Cousins. You're probably

966
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna get called McCoy for a couple of games. To

967
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: its right, everyone but for disaster going from quarterback to quarterback,

968
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: all right, But no one thought it was going to

969
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: be RG three from wire to wire. No. But at

970
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: my point is that Cousins get named the starter like

971
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: week three preseason. It came down to what it wasn't

972
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: just Cousins, it was. It happened after we picked our

973
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: power pool. I'm just saying I feel like they're a

974
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a were I don't think that I

975
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: totally disagree with a lot of teams. In fact, when

976
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: we talked about it, I said, we voted and I

977
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: had them thirty second. I said at the time, if

978
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: if I knew Cousins was the starter, had to put

979
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: them in the in the early twenties. What about the Giants?

980
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: By like and I hit the Giants here? Uh, is

981
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: there any chance? And they have a home game against

982
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: the Redskins team that everybody or a lot of people

983
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: will probably think they'll get on the board here and

984
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: win if they lay an egg and the Redskins keep playing, well,

985
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: is there any way Tom Coffin doesn't survive the season

986
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: if if the Wheels really come flying off are number one,

987
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: you have to look at what type of assistance they

988
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: could elevate to interim coach. But the Giants don't. Giants

989
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: don't operate that way. The Giants are gonna, after what

990
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 1: he's done for that team, They're gonna let him play

991
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: it out because I think so too, especially in this

992
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: division where it feels like they any team that's let's

993
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: say three and six after nine games might still be

994
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: in the division race that they're gonna be. Tom Coffin

995
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: is already selling this hope that he's, hey, we're owing

996
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: two but this you know, the Cowboys are injured. I mean,

997
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: he's openly talking about it. And this division is wide

998
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: open isn't this Tom Coughlin's move basically punt September and

999
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 1: then everyone gives up on him. Yeah, well, it's weird.

1000
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: They also had those years where they were six and

1001
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: oh a couple of times, and I don't know they're

1002
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: they're schizophrenic. Let's make our picks for the game, Mark

1003
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Score and Victor Man. I hate making this pick already.

1004
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna forget it in two days anyway, I will,

1005
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: and I going to hold the right to change it,

1006
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, But I'm gonna go Giants,

1007
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why. It only comes down to this,

1008
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: the home team on Thursday night unless you come in,

1009
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: if you roll in with a much better quarterback. I

1010
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: think the disity team has a shot to take Thursday

1011
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: a game, but it's the weirdest game of the week.

1012
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: The Giants need this one so badly. This is their

1013
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: season on the line. I'm going New York score to that.

1014
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: All makes sense. Everything you said makes sense. I just

1015
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: think the Redskins are the more complete, better football team,

1016
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: so I'm taking them score twenty three to all right.

1017
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: I think the Giants will finally get a win. They'll

1018
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: close this time. I think the Cinderella story of the year.

1019
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: Joe Berry, known as the defensive coordinator of the Owen

1020
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: sixteen Lions. He's getting back on, you know, the coordinator

1021
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 1: of the year candidacy this year. This Redskins team goes

1022
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: in there and wins out of three to nine. Yet, well,

1023
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm going if if anyone, anyone on that team's getting

1024
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,479
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of Cinderella out there about

1025
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: Joe Berry. You know, people are getting features ready about

1026
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: that Owen sixteen showing some sad Joe Berry faces and

1027
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: now here he is with If the Redsinans go like

1028
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: ten and six and when the NFC East, Jay Gruden

1029
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: would be one of the more unlikely coaches of the

1030
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: year ever. Yeah, that's a totally fair because people are

1031
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: ready to that. Can that guy? Is this what you're predicting? No, no,

1032
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: but I'm saying it happens. You should get out in

1033
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: front here. I'm not ready to do yet. Let's see.

1034
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: Let's see beat the giants. Let's see beat the giants.

1035
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for Tuesday's edition of the Round

1036
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. We will be back on Thursday with

1037
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: our Thursday Night and we'll go up early Friday morning

1038
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: with our big recap of Thursday night football. We have

1039
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: previews of all the Sunday and Monday games. That's our

1040
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 1: big preview show until then. This is Dan Hansons signing.

1041
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: We go out for a quiet storm, the mailman, the Boss,

1042
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: the Irishman. Early with the queue behind the glass until

1043
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: Thursday m. M.