Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect
Speaker 1: and I heart radio and his Drink chas motherfucking podcast.
Speaker 1: He's electric every Queen's wrapper, he's like, it's your boy
Speaker 1: in O r He's a Miami hip hop pioneer, he
Speaker 1: was d J e f N. Together, they're drinking up
Speaker 1: with some of the biggest players in the most professional,
Speaker 1: unprofessional podcast and you're number one sorts for drunk back.
Speaker 1: Drink is new year z, It's time for Drink Champs.
Speaker 1: Drink up, mother mother? Would it good? Be hope? Would
Speaker 1: it should be? This? Your boy in O r U,
Speaker 1: d J e f N and his drink Chance motherfucknates
Speaker 1: something When I tell you this man is a legend.
Speaker 1: When I tell you, will talk until I was probably
Speaker 1: the only tape that is the funk too, was kicking
Speaker 1: pree tapes, slow jams, the mix tapes. I'm so fine,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. You know I didn't have time to
Speaker 1: get individuals cell kick slow jams. You smashed, And it's
Speaker 1: just how it happens. Uh. I used to go up
Speaker 1: town and get his tapes from Queen's used to I
Speaker 1: us getting a national cab. Of course I didn't have
Speaker 1: a car, but back then he's have O j's and
Speaker 1: things like that. I used to go from Queens all
Speaker 1: the way uptown to get this man's tapes. He's a
Speaker 1: legend amongst legend. He just finished up versus. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that, he just got an album out. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that Roting produced everything from him. But
Speaker 1: when I tell you, can't nobody rock a party like
Speaker 1: a kicking Pree party because the kicker Pree party don't stop.
Speaker 1: I've seen him play for the young guns. I've seen
Speaker 1: him play for the middle people. I've seen him play
Speaker 1: for the old heads. I've seen him play for the Latinos.
Speaker 1: I seen him play for the white people. I've seen
Speaker 1: him play for the I've seen him play for Martians.
Speaker 1: I've seen this man play for anybody and rock the
Speaker 1: crowd the same. So in case you don't know who
Speaker 1: we're talking about, it's about the one the only legendary
Speaker 1: DJ happy was you when you seen Trick Daddy admitting
Speaker 1: that he pulls his legs off? I thought I thought
Speaker 1: that you immediately. It's funny because when I posted it,
Speaker 1: I think you tagged you're like seeing that he almost
Speaker 1: I kind of put the shock at his head when
Speaker 1: I showed him this film. He was just getting okay, okay,
Speaker 1: give let's move one to get straight into it. The
Speaker 1: hip hop community the first time I actually seen the
Speaker 1: hip hop community UM come together recently and this was
Speaker 1: like this. There was a whole bunch of secret group
Speaker 1: chats and everybody was like really really concerned about you,
Speaker 1: and it was really really concerned about um case slang
Speaker 1: um because they said at one point, like you guys
Speaker 1: had you had you had the bad version of COVID, right,
Speaker 1: So it's plain to people who haven't had COVID, um,
Speaker 1: how how does how? How does this work? Well, the
Speaker 1: first time I had it was when it first started.
Speaker 1: You had it first. I had it twice. Uh no,
Speaker 1: okay cool. But the first time I caught it with
Speaker 1: March when it first started, had to the show with
Speaker 1: Caress One at Sony Hall and New speaking of Carats
Speaker 1: gave you COVID. A matter of fact, it was the
Speaker 1: last concert that New York had seen when the COVID started,
Speaker 1: and we did uh Howard Theater next night in d C.
Speaker 1: When I got on the airplane seeing all these wipes
Speaker 1: on the plane, it was like damn Mas's peculiar. I
Speaker 1: started wiping off my little abea when I got home
Speaker 1: that night, when I first started and I wiped off
Speaker 1: this off my little area when I got home that night. Man,
Speaker 1: I was sick for a week and a half. I
Speaker 1: couldn't stand up, I couldn't drink, I couldn't eat. It
Speaker 1: was really bad, and it was you know, I understand
Speaker 1: why people died from me, man, it was it was hard.
Speaker 1: But Fred de Gard someone sitting in my studio and
Speaker 1: a month later he was dead. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, man. So you know, um when I
Speaker 1: called it this time, I did a show which I
Speaker 1: was gonna cancel. I had canceled a bunch of shows
Speaker 1: and I didn't cancel this one because it was a
Speaker 1: lot of bread involves. I supposed to go get it,
Speaker 1: but it was New Year's Eve. I didn't Houston. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear another show in Houston next day. When I
Speaker 1: got home that following day, that's when I got sick
Speaker 1: and I put the video out, and had I thought
Speaker 1: about the all the attention that it was that it
Speaker 1: was gonna get. I wouldn't never put the video out.
Speaker 1: It's the first time, you just the second time recent time.
Speaker 1: So when I put like I said, when I put
Speaker 1: the video out, had I thought about all the attention
Speaker 1: that it would have gotten, I probably would have put
Speaker 1: put it out about it thought twice. But I'm glad
Speaker 1: I did because broke people up to to understand. Don't
Speaker 1: trust nobody as city as ire. But why do you
Speaker 1: regret that I don't understand, because you know, sometimes when
Speaker 1: you do things, I'm not gonna dude that you know.
Speaker 1: I watched people get caught up in the in the
Speaker 1: camera and want to be on the camera just for
Speaker 1: the sake of of them having a camera, and they
Speaker 1: face and they just want a certain amount of attention.
Speaker 1: I'm not really into that. When I showed things on
Speaker 1: the net or whatever, it's to inspire you to show
Speaker 1: you I'm doing good. It's to make you want to
Speaker 1: do good, and you know stuff like that. So you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you know you put things up there, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know why you had to do that. So but
Speaker 1: then again I thought about it, was like, it's a
Speaker 1: good thing I did put it out there, you know,
Speaker 1: saying so people will wake up and know that it's serious. Man,
Speaker 1: hit me and um, you know I was. It was bad, man.
Speaker 1: It was bad to the point where I didn't wanna
Speaker 1: do no days, canceled all my shows. And you know,
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, when I when I canceled, when
Speaker 1: when the pandemic happened and everybody started going back to
Speaker 1: do shows again, they was trying to get me to
Speaker 1: come back out and take nothing. I don't go back
Speaker 1: on into last year, and I was only taking certain dates,
Speaker 1: certain shows, certain size buildings and stuff like that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: because for the most part, it did seem like at
Speaker 1: one point the DJ's was seeming in immune, meaning like
Speaker 1: there was still DJ's going out party and they was
Speaker 1: wearing their masks on kind of social distance and but
Speaker 1: still going to the parties. I remember seeing Millo in
Speaker 1: a couple of them, remember seeing it envying a couple
Speaker 1: of them, and um, so almost almost felt like the
Speaker 1: DJs is immune at one point. And then, um, then
Speaker 1: you and k Slay gets sick around the same time,
Speaker 1: have you in case late spoke. I spoke to case
Speaker 1: Slate when it first happened, and you know, because you
Speaker 1: was in hospitalized, wasn't you know, I wasn't hospital but
Speaker 1: he was, but he was and and uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: spoke to case Lay a few times, and then I
Speaker 1: started speaking with his mom's going back and forth with
Speaker 1: his mom and show. He was, Okay, haven't heard anything lately,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm sure he's getting better.
Speaker 1: You know, our hearts was with him. That's my boy,
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's that's all about do is case La.
Speaker 1: We're saying, so we wanted to be good. You know, Yes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get you. We're gonna get you right. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this is drink chance we goddamn
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: he drinking what you're drinking the best mom. He's always
Speaker 1: drinking this stuff away from me. Yeah, it's all He's
Speaker 1: like DJ. So again, you have no idea how you
Speaker 1: you you got it right, like when you got it,
Speaker 1: you have no idea how you got it. We know
Speaker 1: how we got it here, Well I didn't get it.
Speaker 1: You didn't get it at that time. No, that was
Speaker 1: all y'all have the first time we came back after
Speaker 1: quarantine and we taped our first episode six of us
Speaker 1: Caught It on set. No but there's all six of
Speaker 1: us drinking beer. Should we do think that we got
Speaker 1: it from the local. I know it wasn't. It was
Speaker 1: just a spot. I don't know whatever we had, but
Speaker 1: we six of us that drink those beerst Wow, that's
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So now moving on, I know you ever
Speaker 1: thought New York City would be legalized marijuana? I knew
Speaker 1: at some point. I didn't think like initially, but I
Speaker 1: do once I seen when I went to Denver, I've
Speaker 1: seen that laid. I've seen certain places that did have it.
Speaker 1: I knew at some point it was gonna come to
Speaker 1: New York. I was gonna come, you know. I thought
Speaker 1: it's gonna come faster. I thought it would come before
Speaker 1: a lot of other places. But you know it happened,
Speaker 1: you know, and the crazy ship traveling on the plane
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, I just came back with a half
Speaker 1: a pound. You're always sitting on yourself, split it up
Speaker 1: half bag, half rocked the bag, half my bag because
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you, hey man, But in l A
Speaker 1: X they don't even it's a rule. They don't even
Speaker 1: search your back for that is that rack? That's fire right,
Speaker 1: It's I've seen some dudes his back. Searching the airport,
Speaker 1: they found the weed, looked at it, put it back
Speaker 1: in the back. Wow I'm talking about yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: Let me think about this. All the dudes is locked
Speaker 1: up in jail for twenty some years and now the
Speaker 1: ship is leading and he did all that time. I
Speaker 1: think about that. I was just on a conference call
Speaker 1: talking about that. Just now, Sweater go crazy. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about a comedy show about dudes that's in jail. Is
Speaker 1: hating the dudes. It's a comedy show, so please in
Speaker 1: no way with his real life. Think it's serious way
Speaker 1: making it all up, but it's true, like how the
Speaker 1: fun or his motherfucker's is locked up, has something to
Speaker 1: be mad at. So let me ask you something. You've
Speaker 1: been on the road with cares M, you've been on
Speaker 1: the road with the rappers, You've been on the road. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been on the road for myself long. First j
Speaker 1: I ever seen the toll bus. Yeah, there's not a
Speaker 1: nothing truth its first dude in hip hope. Were supposed
Speaker 1: to make some moise for that, Yeah, next some much more.
Speaker 1: Because I had two talk bus. I brought my first one,
Speaker 1: which was a forty ft A matter of fact, when
Speaker 1: I want to go buy my first bus to dude
Speaker 1: that I was buying the bus. When he laughed at me,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, nobody buys buses. They rent the bus.
Speaker 1: I'm comes out. They rent the bus going tour for
Speaker 1: a couple of months to bring the bus back Dundal.
Speaker 1: Nobody buys a bus, I said, Man, I gave a
Speaker 1: whole bag of money here, get my bus. Game my bus.
Speaker 1: I came back and bought the bigger bus. When I
Speaker 1: bought that bigger bus, he's seen how serious I was.
Speaker 1: And plus I game some of his best bus drivers.
Speaker 1: A drove for little Wayne, drove for cash, money, drove
Speaker 1: for you know this snoo Se was one of my
Speaker 1: bus drivers. Rest of pc ro bust and um. When
Speaker 1: I came back. When he came back to the second bus,
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, you're doing a record company. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm gonna give you a million dollars
Speaker 1: from your record company. I was like, no, I'm good. Holy,
Speaker 1: he's gonna that He's gonna give me a million dollars
Speaker 1: from my record company to back my record company or
Speaker 1: the guy who owned the bus. Yeah, that's that's how
Speaker 1: much he believed and what you were doing, because you
Speaker 1: is that because he never seen nobody buy bus from
Speaker 1: me before. This dude got three hundred fifty buses on
Speaker 1: his law and this dude lives on two thousand acres
Speaker 1: of laying. Him and his buddy got an airport in
Speaker 1: his crip. You said he never seen nobody or he
Speaker 1: never seen nobody nobody, no, no, no, nobody ever bought
Speaker 1: just rented. How much was this is this time? The
Speaker 1: buses he got buses a two point three million dollars
Speaker 1: on this lawn lined up? You know, mins wasn't that much.
Speaker 1: I think my pay probably one point three maybe no,
Speaker 1: I'm lying, I'm lying, is about seven fifty at the time.
Speaker 1: But he had one point three pre vows and two
Speaker 1: point three p vows is laid out and he would
Speaker 1: fix the busses right there and this lawn he has right. Yes,
Speaker 1: he would have all these different houses that he built
Speaker 1: and put people that worked for him in these houses,
Speaker 1: and mostly everybody that worked from was black. And how
Speaker 1: he started it was he was um. Him and his
Speaker 1: brother started his band, this group in nineteen sixty and
Speaker 1: they made this record and the Wrecking with Top forty,
Speaker 1: but they didn't like to fly. So what they did
Speaker 1: was they bought a school bus and they got to
Speaker 1: the school bus out they put the couch and there
Speaker 1: put the chairs and then you know, and they made
Speaker 1: it comfortab when they went on the road. After the
Speaker 1: record died down, they rented the bus out. And they've
Speaker 1: seen all this money that they were making from the bus,
Speaker 1: so they went and bought another one. Then they brought
Speaker 1: another one next to you know, each brother ony bus
Speaker 1: is a piece. And these buses two point three million
Speaker 1: dollars the two of us. I wouldn't say they invented.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know that, but I know they didn't like
Speaker 1: to travel. You know what I'm saying. They where they
Speaker 1: have the one of the ranches in Leedsburg, Lesburg, Florida. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what all the buses come from. I thought that's
Speaker 1: the one that owned the bus that he's white, last
Speaker 1: name was Calhoun, but most of the people that worked
Speaker 1: from his black. I mean one dude that that he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick up my girl. He said, were coming
Speaker 1: to me. I was like, no, I'm good. He got
Speaker 1: an airplane, left, came back twenty minutes with his girl.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. Pulled up with the plane. Everybody got
Speaker 1: a house and got a plane in their garage with
Speaker 1: either bends or something crazy in front of the house.
Speaker 1: They building houses on the rand, on the ring. His
Speaker 1: dude got thirty swamp boats. He lives crazy. Now. Never
Speaker 1: see nobody lived like that. His brother has the exact
Speaker 1: same thing that he has. So when you travel with Carerest,
Speaker 1: that you're travel on boat. No, no, no, I didn't
Speaker 1: really travel with care I just did certain shows with Careless,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. We do like spot days,
Speaker 1: like I'll do his shows. A matter of fact, I
Speaker 1: traveled more of a rock kidney. I did Carerest with
Speaker 1: me and Rock Kim did a whole tour together. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a whole tour. So but me and Caress,
Speaker 1: there's so much monumental things, you know what I'm saying. Also,
Speaker 1: Carest was there with my daughter vinga Love was born.
Speaker 1: He's a godfather of the love, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He was there at the hospital. I was in towns
Speaker 1: down here in Florida and doing the show with Tampa
Speaker 1: when she was born, and he was at the hosp.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, man. But so like I said, have
Speaker 1: so much sence to me with so many people, but
Speaker 1: mostly mostly I've been on the road for myself and
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to know that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I could sell out a spot and you know, make
Speaker 1: a crowd happy and don't have to depend on if
Speaker 1: I need somebody else there. If somebody else there's it's
Speaker 1: a plus. But I could do it on my own.
Speaker 1: It's dope. But after doing versus yourself and after being
Speaker 1: on the road with rock Kimp, we do think rock
Speaker 1: Kim was best doing versus against me and Swiss sat
Speaker 1: down many times to talk about different people to match up.
Speaker 1: I mean, we sat down the phone one time for
Speaker 1: three hours trying to get somebody to match it with
Speaker 1: l L couldn't find nobody in But the first I
Speaker 1: first started was Swiss had called me and asking me, well,
Speaker 1: Busting didn't coming mind. It wasn't a bust that we
Speaker 1: was thinking of. No mass a matter of fact, I'm lying,
Speaker 1: Buster did come up. But when um, how I first started,
Speaker 1: Swiss had've reached out to me and asked me if
Speaker 1: I give rock Kim with came when not, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: That just doesn't seem like a good match to me,
Speaker 1: all give me us used to be on the block
Speaker 1: Caress and Rock him. It was always that. It was
Speaker 1: never Careless and Cane or Rock Kim Kaine, even though
Speaker 1: Kane was I was just outrageous to us. But it
Speaker 1: was all the argument was always Caressing Rock Kimp. But
Speaker 1: you know, when I reached out to Rod told him,
Speaker 1: you know, say, I told him why I thought he
Speaker 1: should do it. But you know, ri Rod moves the
Speaker 1: way you're gonna move, man, you don't move like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And um, sometimes something that's good
Speaker 1: may not be good for you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like I was asked to do versus four times before,
Speaker 1: not not my own, the help other people, and I
Speaker 1: turned it down because I didn't feel like it was
Speaker 1: the right thing for me to do at the time.
Speaker 1: Sometime people jump on something because the opportunity is there
Speaker 1: or because the hot thing to do, and it may
Speaker 1: not be the right thing to do at the right
Speaker 1: at that time, what I'm saying. So when I did
Speaker 1: it with Caress and Cane, that made sense, you know,
Speaker 1: And I told them the why first, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But who was people first? It was somebody else. Um,
Speaker 1: I think Keith Sweat. I reached out. I wanted me
Speaker 1: to do it, which out. I love Keith Sweat is
Speaker 1: one of the greatest. But I just didn't see sense
Speaker 1: of me standing behind keep Sweat white. He's crooning, crooning
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, Like I'm standing what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like somebody else might have took down. I'm not knocking that,
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't have been right for me, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, you wouldn't been able to bring yourself in
Speaker 1: that situation like I can't be me, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you just don't make something. It looks
Speaker 1: like I'm just a token dude standing there like you know,
Speaker 1: that's not what I do. You do? Play kicking at
Speaker 1: the dark? What is it? What is it? That was
Speaker 1: my little What happened was I started playing on before
Speaker 1: this thing with the with the the quarantine happened. I
Speaker 1: was playing on i G, Periscope and Facebook Live from
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen to two thousand and eighteen. What
Speaker 1: I would do is I would sit there and play
Speaker 1: with I started. I started in my crib. I played
Speaker 1: beats and stuff like that. So one day I was
Speaker 1: in the crib, I was like, you know, I was
Speaker 1: bored as hell. One day I just said, you gonna
Speaker 1: cut the camera at the came on and people just
Speaker 1: like the beasts they were hearing. Now see all these
Speaker 1: chicks on them. So I did it again. So I
Speaker 1: just created a show called the Black Party Live Mixtape
Speaker 1: where I just played crazy craziness right, but it's not
Speaker 1: me DJ, and it's just me playing on the computer,
Speaker 1: just sitting the button joints coming on time, and it
Speaker 1: worked me talking to my ship and do what I do.
Speaker 1: So I see all these women up there. One day
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I got to create a show
Speaker 1: for the women. I said, what y'all think? And one
Speaker 1: woman said we should name it No Pants Sundays. I said,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna call it No Panty Sundays. Bag got
Speaker 1: Sunday I did the first show. I had maybe sixty
Speaker 1: women up there looking at this thing. So every Sunday
Speaker 1: I would do No Panty Sundays. Every Wednesday I would
Speaker 1: do Black Party Live Mixtape. Never asked for a dollar,
Speaker 1: never asked for This is me and my my basement
Speaker 1: doing it live in front of you know, and started
Speaker 1: on Paris Scope first. Then I started going to I
Speaker 1: Live and Paris Scope, and I added Facebook Live and
Speaker 1: I had all three cameras set up. So I'm doing
Speaker 1: this from two thousand and fifteen to two thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 1: When two thousand and eight team ran around Serious seeing
Speaker 1: what I was doing on there, and you know, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't go back to regular radio because I feel like
Speaker 1: I couldn't beat me at regular radio. No, no knocking,
Speaker 1: It's just that for me, I needed yourself. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but no, no, no, I've never been on hot, never
Speaker 1: been on power there. I asked me years ago to
Speaker 1: be on there, but the road. I was trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, be in the road to do my feuple
Speaker 1: of times. Yeah, so they came into Serious seeing what
Speaker 1: I was doing, saying how hot it was. It was like, yo,
Speaker 1: coming serious. Do you do your things? Do your block
Speaker 1: party thing? You know, that's something called the block party.
Speaker 1: And uh, I'll do the first four hours where I
Speaker 1: played early nineties and two thousands, and that the last
Speaker 1: two hours I'll play everything new and old and mix
Speaker 1: it up. And that's how I've seen radio. I see
Speaker 1: radio as it shouldn't be a thing where it's the
Speaker 1: same thing all the time. It should be colors too,
Speaker 1: It should be things where you don't expect. So it
Speaker 1: worked out. I've been doing it for five years and
Speaker 1: as don't when I could play them on me is
Speaker 1: going my joint and then you know, there's no limitations.
Speaker 1: I could just do what I feel and you know,
Speaker 1: so with that that happened. The Kendrick cam album came
Speaker 1: that that year, the two Pac movie came that year,
Speaker 1: of a few other things, but it all came from
Speaker 1: me sitting they're doing the thing on on on the
Speaker 1: on in my basement on the net. So after two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, I stopped because I wanted to drive
Speaker 1: everybody to serious m you know. Yeah, But it worked out,
Speaker 1: and then the Quarantine hitt and I came back for
Speaker 1: a little while. But that's that. That was. That was
Speaker 1: actually an ill thing too, because when I heard the
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar album and got to hear you on it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, like, you know, for him
Speaker 1: to the West coast, lyrical guys a big up a
Speaker 1: East coast, you know, DJ, you would think that he
Speaker 1: was shot out like felli foul or like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I said that to him, I said,
Speaker 1: you got battle cat out there. You have why you
Speaker 1: didn't get them? These dudes a le just like you know.
Speaker 1: He was like, No, they're my boys and my brothers.
Speaker 1: They who they are. But I know what you did
Speaker 1: for the music business. I know what you did for
Speaker 1: the DJs. I know what you did how you changed
Speaker 1: the game in the music business. And if people this
Speaker 1: is Kendrick telling me this, we're in the studio. He's saying,
Speaker 1: you know, if people ain't gonna give you the credit
Speaker 1: that you deserved, this right here, will you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And although I wish I could have, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that, you know, and when it's the
Speaker 1: only album in hip hop that made it to get
Speaker 1: the Politzo Awards. So he put me in places that
Speaker 1: my voice in places that I've never been to, and
Speaker 1: I've been a lot of places, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So UM, just that alone, you know, he put me
Speaker 1: in the face of young kids that might not have
Speaker 1: ever had the kicking pre experience and don't really know
Speaker 1: what I do. He had a chance for them It
Speaker 1: gave him a chance to go back and see. You know,
Speaker 1: why would kick and pre be on Kendrick album and
Speaker 1: they'll go back and check and see. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I wish we could have did a
Speaker 1: lot more like consers of stuff together. He didn't need
Speaker 1: me of us, you know, but if we would have
Speaker 1: did it, it would have been Sonami. We have been crazy.
Speaker 1: But maybe one day we can still still happen. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't know if you know shows about giving people
Speaker 1: their flowers, all right, we want to get him a
Speaker 1: big fan. You know what I'm saying right now? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, motherfucking flowers. Bro, you're one of those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we didn't give you last time, but this time the
Speaker 1: real flowers. Yeah, like your career, they gonna thank you.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you that way, yea. Make sure make
Speaker 1: sure you get back to versus. But yeah, I see
Speaker 1: you in parties and I see you still switch it.
Speaker 1: I see you still like you still enjoy this. Oh am,
Speaker 1: I reading this wrong? No, I love it because I
Speaker 1: did it when there was no me, when there was
Speaker 1: no money, when there was no attention, when it was
Speaker 1: no gas, it was none of that ship. It was like,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We did it just yeah.
Speaker 1: I used to come out with the equipment in the rain,
Speaker 1: out in the street just so people could see me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When I got on I
Speaker 1: sat on the street corner of a hundred fifty five
Speaker 1: in front of Rutger or a hundred eighth in front
Speaker 1: of Willie's and sold mix tapes, not knowing I was
Speaker 1: gonna get shot robbed. The kind of ships. This is
Speaker 1: in the middle of Holland, and there was a lot
Speaker 1: of ship going on, killings going on. And when I
Speaker 1: was in the s Nut Club, I was with the
Speaker 1: most craziest people that you can imagine in New York,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I didn't do the
Speaker 1: things that certain people did. So the way I moved
Speaker 1: made them dudes look at me in a certain kind
Speaker 1: of way and protect us being start out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when I came in that street
Speaker 1: with the with the with the tapes, I was already
Speaker 1: solidified at Harlem, but I wasn't. I wasn't. Really Nobody
Speaker 1: or dude was coming up like your wile about tape
Speaker 1: from you for twenty holds man, who were you kicking you?
Speaker 1: I said, put my tape in your in your car.
Speaker 1: Listen to the beginning of the end show. You're gonna
Speaker 1: come back and buy everything. I gotta gallantee, he'll put
Speaker 1: my joining the car, come back by everything. I used
Speaker 1: to come out in an hour and sell two thousand
Speaker 1: tapes in one hour, huntreds on the Hunting tapes and
Speaker 1: make two thousand dollars in an hour. I was making tapes.
Speaker 1: I was getting, but I was getting getting. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, it was crazy like every
Speaker 1: day all day to the point where it got me
Speaker 1: to my first album. There that got me to my
Speaker 1: first television show. It got me to my first radio deal,
Speaker 1: first album deal, Sony first album deal was was born
Speaker 1: of brothers, the KICKI pre the tape album Bismarck, Rest
Speaker 1: of Piece. He got me that deal and um, I
Speaker 1: don't even want to album there to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: He got me that deal because I got hot in
Speaker 1: the street with the mix tapes. He came up on
Speaker 1: me one day I did the show so where he
Speaker 1: came up and pulled up on me in the MP Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you don't get shut up there next to you know,
Speaker 1: I'm in Berry Padell's office, this big money. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, So we did the album. I'm writing the
Speaker 1: joints in there. I wasn't a rap or nothing like that,
Speaker 1: but I said little rhymes on my mixtapes, and you know,
Speaker 1: it caught up in the street. You know, the tapes
Speaker 1: got really hot, so I guess anything that was on
Speaker 1: the tapes was gonna catch. So I was saying, those
Speaker 1: are the rhymes I was saying on there. I would
Speaker 1: write other stuff. Me and Cooby did the beats. Jan
Speaker 1: came out and went on tour with it. You know,
Speaker 1: it was experienced, but I got the DJ thing is
Speaker 1: what what blew up and that's what made me. That's
Speaker 1: what people know me. As you know. So when I
Speaker 1: did Death Comedy Jam at the time, people they really
Speaker 1: cared about DJs. They looked at DJs as you know,
Speaker 1: he just played records. You know what I'm saying. If
Speaker 1: you wasn't on TV. That's the first television show was
Speaker 1: Death Comedy Jain. It wasn't the first televison show. It
Speaker 1: wasn't on It was the first television show that was minds.
Speaker 1: That was that I was a part of you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But I was always I was doing
Speaker 1: other stuff like that, stuff like that, but the first
Speaker 1: thing that was mine. I was a really a part
Speaker 1: of yours. What exactly do you mean that some of
Speaker 1: the Simmons, Martin, Lawrence, kicking Pre that was the press. No,
Speaker 1: Russell wants the show. But but I was the beginning.
Speaker 1: It's minds too, you know what I'm saying. You think
Speaker 1: of Death Comedy Jam, you think of Russell, Martin, Kicking
Speaker 1: Pre and the comedians, so you know, and the um
Speaker 1: So when that came, that gave me a chance to
Speaker 1: you know, even though you see me five seconds, it
Speaker 1: was so huge and your difference for the DJ too,
Speaker 1: So when you write, you know, yeah, it just opened doors.
Speaker 1: That gave people that didn't care about DJs, you know,
Speaker 1: a chance to see yeah, well all right, and then
Speaker 1: when I comming to their town to do the actual concert,
Speaker 1: then they really see you know, the bulk. They would
Speaker 1: see it like now now, now this is the change
Speaker 1: in the guard. Now here's when the DJ is starting
Speaker 1: to be looked at like an artist. Now because of
Speaker 1: what I did with that television show, what I'm giving
Speaker 1: those mixtapes and that exactly. But I didn't even get
Speaker 1: there yet, and they get there yet. But now we're
Speaker 1: starting to get to the point where now they now
Speaker 1: they gotta pay attention because I'm anna forced to be
Speaker 1: record with on that stage. It doesn't matter what tour
Speaker 1: it is, who you got, how big his record is,
Speaker 1: you get kicked pre on that stage, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: the talk of that show, just as well as that
Speaker 1: platinum rtists. That That was the stance I had to
Speaker 1: take in order for people to take the DJ serious.
Speaker 1: Before that, we were getting paid fifty dollars a hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: If you wasn't behind Jazzy, if you wasn't Jazzy Jeff
Speaker 1: behind Fresh Prince, or you wasn't jam Masson j behind
Speaker 1: Run DMC, or you wasn't ready alert on the radio,
Speaker 1: which radio stations around the country wasn't playing We're playing
Speaker 1: hip hop. So if you had that job, you were special.
Speaker 1: You know I'm saying. If you wasn't that, you wasn't
Speaker 1: looked at as you know this great thing, and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there like, yo were all great, this is an
Speaker 1: art like how they going like nah? So I had
Speaker 1: to take the stance I took. I gotta pay me
Speaker 1: a certain way. You ain't putting me in no corner,
Speaker 1: on no stage, center stage and gonna RiPP the building
Speaker 1: down if you if I'm packing this building, the same
Speaker 1: building that you're paying this guy that only got two records,
Speaker 1: he only come on stage for a half hour to
Speaker 1: rock out, and I'm there for two hours destroying the spot.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna pay me the same way you're paying him.
Speaker 1: You're gonna treat me the same way you're treating them.
Speaker 1: And if you're not give it to somebody else, you'll
Speaker 1: be back around. Because you have to know your value.
Speaker 1: You know, I have to. You have to take that
Speaker 1: serious and if know, if you don't, nobody else will.
Speaker 1: And that's what happened to where it changed the garden.
Speaker 1: Then I made the first album of his kind of
Speaker 1: soundtrack to the streets, you know what I'm saying, where
Speaker 1: I had J and Nahas and this one and that
Speaker 1: went on the air. I was able to do that,
Speaker 1: the first to make the kid to pre take album
Speaker 1: a DJ as a rapper. So I did a lot
Speaker 1: of things. You know, we're innovating to help the DJ
Speaker 1: move forward. But if you go back again. Who's inspiring
Speaker 1: you to do tapes to to DJ? Who's the beginning
Speaker 1: of all this too? When I came in, I started
Speaker 1: DJ and with starts out mike and in the SNS club,
Speaker 1: any meaning happened like that sn S Club is a
Speaker 1: place that you wasn't just allowed of being there. You
Speaker 1: had to be somebody, You had to be this certain
Speaker 1: kind of person. Right And I'm sitting there the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever been there, and a drug dealer walked up.
Speaker 1: It said that somebody drives touch of class. You know,
Speaker 1: I bet a hundred fifty dollars. I bet a hundred
Speaker 1: fifty dollars that kid will be starch outing, walked up
Speaker 1: to me. I'm like, nah, man, I'm not here for that.
Speaker 1: I'm shutting, like nah, I don't even me start you.
Speaker 1: I knew of there. I'm wanted to listen some plane
Speaker 1: he's playing right there. I'm sitting there just watching everything
Speaker 1: that was going on, like this some ship you spending
Speaker 1: at that point here, I was playing you. I'm not
Speaker 1: at the spot. I was sitting there just like watching
Speaker 1: what's going is my first time there, so I'm watching this.
Speaker 1: I'm looking what's going I'm like, damn, this is what
Speaker 1: they're talking about. It because I always heard about the
Speaker 1: asking man. You know, this is what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Seeing all these people and you know, stiffer street people
Speaker 1: out pole walking and this one walking I'm looking at,
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn. Ship. The dude came up and he shouting,
Speaker 1: you know, hunting feet out without like nine no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what drug dealers at the time. You know,
Speaker 1: you can't tell him. They're gonna they're gonna make you. Yes,
Speaker 1: you death. Come on and the Starshouse said something slick
Speaker 1: on the mic. God Bless and Soul. He said something
Speaker 1: slick on the mic up there, and I ran up
Speaker 1: there and uh, did one move blew the whole club up.
Speaker 1: He turned to me, he was like, your kid, I'm
Speaker 1: selling twenty out of the the tapes. We should do it together.
Speaker 1: We split the money ten ten, Like I aren't fucking
Speaker 1: We end up doing it. So we've got six tape
Speaker 1: decks in there copying the tapes. People by the tapes
Speaker 1: right there and they, you know, the tapes was all
Speaker 1: over the place. So me and Star we were so
Speaker 1: loved in that club. You couldn't breathe wrong on us.
Speaker 1: You couldn't look wrong as or anybody that came in there.
Speaker 1: We were so protected by some of the most craziest
Speaker 1: dudes that we you know, we wasn't on that, but
Speaker 1: Day lived a certain way and they and they took
Speaker 1: us very serious. But we went through raids and there
Speaker 1: we went through cops coming there, breaking up the toilets,
Speaker 1: do get throwing guns, crack bottles, bottles over the floor,
Speaker 1: and it was crazy. Man. We'll leave there going up
Speaker 1: the block to the Zodiac, which is another club on
Speaker 1: by the same person getting there, trying to be rampacked,
Speaker 1: somebody coming in. All the gambling. It was a crazy time.
Speaker 1: But I did that for a year and a half
Speaker 1: with Star and you know what, I'm glad I did it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that's why my first
Speaker 1: record on my first album was called the Apollo. It's
Speaker 1: about salute and hallom and uptown. And now my record
Speaker 1: Uptown was the same thing, to go back and salute
Speaker 1: the people that helped me up. You know. So I'm
Speaker 1: not I may not agree with what they might have
Speaker 1: been doing at the time, but I wouldn't talk down
Speaker 1: on it because those are the ones that was buying
Speaker 1: the tapes. They are the ones that kept my name
Speaker 1: out there. So it was that, like how Stripper is
Speaker 1: the A and os for UM, like like um strip
Speaker 1: club music, Drug Dealers was the A and off for
Speaker 1: UM for New York music. For the st Yeah, my
Speaker 1: mixtapes was the soundtrack. Was the soundtrack to those type
Speaker 1: of people. You know what I'm saying. When you when
Speaker 1: they drove down a FA avenue and they heard their
Speaker 1: names screaming out on the tape, it meant so much
Speaker 1: to them, you know what I'm saying. And then the
Speaker 1: type of the type of music that I was bringing
Speaker 1: out as the music that people like what it wasn't
Speaker 1: just me, it was me. It was start Shot, it
Speaker 1: was Booty be was you know that type of music.
Speaker 1: I pulled a lot to the game start Shot boils
Speaker 1: out of the game Booty Boil out to you. But
Speaker 1: that type of music made the street people feeling. So
Speaker 1: it was like a It was just like a feeling.
Speaker 1: They had that certain kind of music. It was their soundtrack.
Speaker 1: It was the soundtrack. That's why I named my album
Speaker 1: soundtrack the Streets my second album, UM. When I did
Speaker 1: that because I gave them the soundtrack for so long
Speaker 1: with the mixtapes, and when I put this album together,
Speaker 1: it was like I was kind of almost doing it
Speaker 1: that way, but in a in a different way. I
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to be like a DJ on the on
Speaker 1: the album, I was a produce. I was looking more
Speaker 1: like I was trying to be a Quincy Jones. And
Speaker 1: at the time, Quincy Jones had called me to come
Speaker 1: in to do his album and you just said that, well,
Speaker 1: Criscy Jones, he did accused you joint album. He asked
Speaker 1: me to come and start the album off with Stevie
Speaker 1: One and Ray Challs. So I did the first record
Speaker 1: with Stevie Wanning, Ray Charles Abano. It's called at the
Speaker 1: Good Times Roll. So I'm sitting there in the studio
Speaker 1: with Crincy Jones and Rod Templeton. I'm in the middle
Speaker 1: of the Rod Templetons to do that Wark wrote off
Speaker 1: the wall out for Michael Jackson. I'm sitting there between them.
Speaker 1: They got their arms around me. I'm looking at him
Speaker 1: like looking let him like, disn't gonna kid, this is
Speaker 1: what I want you to do. And he's telling me
Speaker 1: this stuff when I'm standing there saying, yo, look at
Speaker 1: the money that I'm sitting in between. Just the fact
Speaker 1: that I'm in between these dudes. You know, sometimes we
Speaker 1: we we all we get these looks and we get
Speaker 1: these accolades. We don't really look at how special it
Speaker 1: is because we always get in accolade. So it's like
Speaker 1: a thing we used to But I seeing pinpoint each
Speaker 1: thing for what it is. And to sit there to
Speaker 1: be called from Quincy Jones, first of all, let's not
Speaker 1: to get to get into the studio, just to be called.
Speaker 1: To have that in his mind, that is everything. Then
Speaker 1: to be sitting there between him, you know. And then
Speaker 1: he asked me to come to his uh party's birthday party. Right,
Speaker 1: I go to his birthday party. As soon as I
Speaker 1: get to the door, Oprah Winfrey, it's right there, she goes, Oh,
Speaker 1: that goes to my baby kid, capret, my man's I
Speaker 1: got two of my dudes with me, my man, Doug, you,
Speaker 1: my man. I see they looked at each other like
Speaker 1: kiss because they bugger. They from the blockday O be
Speaker 1: around this stuff. So they see Open Winfrey saying that
Speaker 1: I was buggy because I don't even know what she
Speaker 1: knew me, but she said that, so that me her
Speaker 1: Brandy took a picture hung out. Quincy took me to
Speaker 1: his case where he had fifty five Grammys in the case.
Speaker 1: This isn't his party, this is fifty five grammys. We
Speaker 1: try to get one. He got fifty five in the case.
Speaker 1: And this is back then. So the dude was big,
Speaker 1: very influential to me, and that's what I wanted to be.
Speaker 1: So when I did soundtrack, and that's how I was
Speaker 1: thinking of being the Quincy Jones and hip hop. So
Speaker 1: at what point you and start y'all stopped making the
Speaker 1: tapes together once I started, Once I left it, ask
Speaker 1: um anything I ever do. I didn't even want to
Speaker 1: be stuck right the set the tapes was a stepping
Speaker 1: stone for me. When Hot ninty seven asked me to
Speaker 1: come and do Hot nanty seven, I told him no,
Speaker 1: not because there wasn't the number one station. It was
Speaker 1: because there was the number one station. They didn't need
Speaker 1: me them saying already had what was going on. Plus
Speaker 1: I wanted to be in the world. It's before the
Speaker 1: any keep in mind, this before the internet. So I'm
Speaker 1: doing two two shows around the country. I wanted to
Speaker 1: touch Mississippi. I wanted to touch Florida. I went to
Speaker 1: touch California. I want to touch these people and let
Speaker 1: them see what New York was and how we could
Speaker 1: bring New York to y'all and make y'all happy and
Speaker 1: still be able to do what y'all like. In Houston,
Speaker 1: they got music that they loved that nobody ever heard.
Speaker 1: When when when you go there and you know that music,
Speaker 1: you become so much bigger, And that's what happened with me.
Speaker 1: I would go to St. Louis. I would go to
Speaker 1: these different places to make sure that the main DJ
Speaker 1: out there, you know what's going on. It was popping
Speaker 1: okay because of my show. Will make sure we blow
Speaker 1: you up out because you all the men do it
Speaker 1: in the city. So I'm gonna make sure we keep
Speaker 1: the light on you. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: a lot of dudes at times, the promoters are come
Speaker 1: and get get me to come to the show, and
Speaker 1: that main DJ in that city was saying, Yo, I'm
Speaker 1: the hottest do it out here. Why you gotta get
Speaker 1: kicking free? And there the promoters say, sit down and
Speaker 1: watch him. Sit there and watch, and then that DJ
Speaker 1: watch and see that first show, and then I come
Speaker 1: back and do another show. And you see that show
Speaker 1: and how I ripped the mud hole in this place.
Speaker 1: And now when I come back, that DJ is doing
Speaker 1: me At that show. He never talked on the microphone,
Speaker 1: He never played records quick or the way I played.
Speaker 1: He never played those type of records. But when I
Speaker 1: come back, that's what he's doing. Now imagine them. I'm
Speaker 1: going all around the world and everywhere I go, all
Speaker 1: the DJs is doing that. Before that day wasn't doing that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that was my contribute,
Speaker 1: my contribution to music that you know, to help the
Speaker 1: DJ move along, you know what I'm saying. And it
Speaker 1: was it was always about looking at the DJ as
Speaker 1: an artist. It was never about just me. It's never
Speaker 1: about me, and he showed I do. It's never about me.
Speaker 1: It's always about the crowd. I take myself and look
Speaker 1: at look at this. If I'm in the crowd watching myself,
Speaker 1: and what would make me want to come back to
Speaker 1: see me again, what would make me feel good watching
Speaker 1: me again? What would make a promoter want the book
Speaker 1: be again? You know what I'm saying. And that's what
Speaker 1: makes me go so hard, because it's not about me,
Speaker 1: it's never been about me. Yeah, yeah, so the rumor
Speaker 1: is right. I'll say his name. Was gonna say his name,
Speaker 1: but um like funk Flex used to not let his
Speaker 1: the DJs that come on before him play certain records.
Speaker 1: Right when I found out something of a normal thing
Speaker 1: like if you if you're if you're the man DJ,
Speaker 1: you tell these dudes you know you can't play this,
Speaker 1: this and that is that? Is that something you've ever
Speaker 1: done and there's a reason for it. If you've seen Technician,
Speaker 1: the DJ that did the joint with the Lot, Technicus
Speaker 1: has been on the rod with me for twenty some years.
Speaker 1: Technique has seen me ripped different places down and do
Speaker 1: different things to where he became so great because it
Speaker 1: wasn't just me, he was other DJs he watched, but
Speaker 1: he seen me on the constant basis do this every show.
Speaker 1: So when he did what he did with the locks,
Speaker 1: I wanted surprise. He's supposed to, right. But the reason
Speaker 1: why my shows are so have so much magnitude to
Speaker 1: it is because I want Like I said, it's not
Speaker 1: about me. I want people to feel better than they
Speaker 1: did before they got did. They can't do that if
Speaker 1: they hear the same song three or four times a night.
Speaker 1: You notice how a lot of parties right now, everybody
Speaker 1: standing around and everybody's in their phone and all that
Speaker 1: that don't happen in my parties. My parties right exactly
Speaker 1: because because they the continuity. It's a continuity that has
Speaker 1: to keep going, has to be a beginning in the
Speaker 1: middle of the end. You have to build people up,
Speaker 1: the saying and it's you against the whole room, for
Speaker 1: the people that you don't even know. You gotta say,
Speaker 1: it's up to you to satisfy everybody in this room
Speaker 1: at one time. So how do you do that? You
Speaker 1: have to be the best you can be, and how
Speaker 1: do you do that is you have to tell a story.
Speaker 1: If you're a DJ that comes in at ten thirty
Speaker 1: at night and nobody drank nothing at ten thirty at night,
Speaker 1: who wants to hear out how this record at ten
Speaker 1: thirty at night? But this DJ is thinking about burning
Speaker 1: the next dude that comes out. He's thinking about himself.
Speaker 1: He's thinking about, let me get as much shot as
Speaker 1: I can. Don't matter about the event, don't matter, it,
Speaker 1: don't matter, none of that. And that's why I bought
Speaker 1: a DJ. Of course, the country with me everywhere I
Speaker 1: who open up. I'm paying this dude. I'm paying for
Speaker 1: his hotel. I'm he's seeing it. You know, that's bread
Speaker 1: I can keep in my pocket, But I care about
Speaker 1: my crowd so much that I'll lose that bread to
Speaker 1: make sure that every show is right. You don't hear
Speaker 1: the same song and one night because we have so
Speaker 1: much music to play in the way we played, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be so crazy you ain't gonna miss it. But
Speaker 1: even if they did play the record before for you
Speaker 1: and you played the same record, it it doesn't the
Speaker 1: way that the showman ship that you had those DJs
Speaker 1: didn't have it. Yeah, it really doesn't doesn't matter, but
Speaker 1: it takes the way of impact that I'm trying to better.
Speaker 1: It's an impact that I want to keep. If you
Speaker 1: heard the song that that you wanted to hear all
Speaker 1: night and then I come and play, it ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be the same impact now, same thing, vice versa. Let's
Speaker 1: say it's me opening up for you, which is very rare,
Speaker 1: But let's say that's the case. I'm gonna stay. It's
Speaker 1: about the people. I know that you're the principal. They're
Speaker 1: paying you a certain amount of way to do a
Speaker 1: certain things and look at you would did it before?
Speaker 1: And then it many times like you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that, And that's what it's about. It's about knowing
Speaker 1: it's not about you. But who do you open up for?
Speaker 1: And I mean, like I said, it's ver be rare
Speaker 1: that I opened up for anybody, because I'm always headlouted
Speaker 1: who I opened up for. A matter of fact, the
Speaker 1: last one I did, the last one, the last person
Speaker 1: I went before was Mr. The c. We did a
Speaker 1: joint in Brooklyn, Okay, okay, and we missed to see
Speaker 1: his name is the finisher, So it's in this contract.
Speaker 1: It's not as in this contract, but you know that
Speaker 1: it's the respect like I do your day, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. You're the finishing, finish it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's a great DJ On top of that,
Speaker 1: and they're like, he can't follow me, you don't do
Speaker 1: your thing, But I would give them hell in that
Speaker 1: build there's a lot things. You know, you gotta step
Speaker 1: it up. DJ. Did you find out that now it's
Speaker 1: getting million dollars a show? How do I feel? What? Like?
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Yeah? Like you didn't
Speaker 1: hear these DJ's is now and they're technically not playing
Speaker 1: records some of them. Some of them are playing sounds
Speaker 1: daring different. I'm gonna say if you if you about
Speaker 1: d M, yeah, obviously honestly, if you told my d M,
Speaker 1: E d M is big no matter who plays it,
Speaker 1: it's the music that it's the music itself. You know,
Speaker 1: you got the words kids like exactly. It could being
Speaker 1: a drugs themselves. It could be that, it could be,
Speaker 1: it could be it's the music for I remember A
Speaker 1: Corn said to me, your kid, you can go to
Speaker 1: Europe and sell out conscience by yourself in the arenas
Speaker 1: because there's DJs out there, they don't have no name
Speaker 1: that's doing it with the E d M music, or
Speaker 1: you got to do start making dan music. It's not
Speaker 1: what I do. I do it. I can make it,
Speaker 1: but I will make it for somebody else. Absolutely, I
Speaker 1: can't make anything. I can't made any kind of music,
Speaker 1: and that's why I do. That's why I produced. You
Speaker 1: need to do. Don't get stuck in one box be
Speaker 1: able to make anything and somebody. When Madonna asked me
Speaker 1: to produce her joint, I not know my daughter reached
Speaker 1: out to do something for her M D M A album.
Speaker 1: I did a record call Madonna's Madonna. Nobody may not
Speaker 1: say nothing bad about Madonna, that's how but not a
Speaker 1: boss me right, no finger pop going on. But she
Speaker 1: gave me a big bag for this record that she
Speaker 1: wanted me to do, right called Masterpiece. I did the
Speaker 1: record done, then she asked me to do She did
Speaker 1: the record with Nicki Minaj right that was out, and
Speaker 1: she paid L M F A yo to do the remix.
Speaker 1: But then she paid me the same amount of money
Speaker 1: she paid me for the Masterpiece record to see what
Speaker 1: I was gonna do with the Nicki Minaj. And she
Speaker 1: never got the record. She never heard the record, never
Speaker 1: received the record, never got the record, and she paid
Speaker 1: me this money. The record never came out and played it.
Speaker 1: You never set the record in. They never asked for
Speaker 1: the record. I even couldn't even getting touched with him.
Speaker 1: Two big bags paid you and got away from you
Speaker 1: like as if they but Donna's the ship got never
Speaker 1: talked bad about. Let me just say, you know, I
Speaker 1: know when Donna's a gangster. She had the same face
Speaker 1: on when she was hanging out with Kanye A b
Speaker 1: and Mayweather as she had on when she hung out
Speaker 1: with Tupac. It's the same exact face. I said. She
Speaker 1: knows how to turn on if my face on a legend.
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, let's do quick time. Let's do quick time,
Speaker 1: all right, So we don't know if you know, you
Speaker 1: want to explain the rules? Come on, because I always
Speaker 1: sucking up. The rules are, he's gonna get your two
Speaker 1: names if you politically correctly and answer the question drinking.
Speaker 1: So that means if you say both or neither, we're drinking.
Speaker 1: You're drinking. We're all drinking. But if you if you
Speaker 1: say you made easy, it's one of the other, nobody's drinks.
Speaker 1: If you pick one, you pick both or neither, we
Speaker 1: all drink. All right, you can't think of anything any
Speaker 1: you could think at that? Alright? Be ready, Hey you
Speaker 1: want to do with shots? You want? What kind of
Speaker 1: shots you want? I'm gonna do, Mom, I'm not the
Speaker 1: kind of stay all right? Cool? You ready say d
Speaker 1: M MAX or Tupac. I'm gonna say d m X
Speaker 1: and cal of a reason. Yes, yes you can't. I
Speaker 1: was putting dm X on stage before DMX was dm X.
Speaker 1: Do you have a dog with him. No DN mix
Speaker 1: was on. I put DN mix on stage in the
Speaker 1: Castle in the box when I was playing the Castle,
Speaker 1: and Dan Mexic even had the rough voice at the
Speaker 1: time hit a different kind of voice, and he was
Speaker 1: going that hey solo spell bound right, yeah, he said
Speaker 1: until the ka back then. So he was always DM Max.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say before he was mad, but he
Speaker 1: was always. But he wasn't known to the world yet.
Speaker 1: And he had record called Born Loser that was playing
Speaker 1: on BLS. Haven't heard no other DJ played. Was the
Speaker 1: only DJ I ever heard play that record. A matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I've really heard anybody players since then. And
Speaker 1: after that he blew up when he got his deal.
Speaker 1: But so that's why I would say D Max, ok
Speaker 1: no problem, Jada Kiss or jay Z So kids took
Speaker 1: a shot you when when you ask me this, what
Speaker 1: do you ask your skills while your criteria to answer
Speaker 1: one we or the other. M I'm gonna say Jay
Speaker 1: because of everything, not just because of the records, because
Speaker 1: of the biggest business and everything that's going on, all
Speaker 1: the opportunities he's creating for everybody, you know. So yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: big al or big punt and we got to talk
Speaker 1: about bigger afterwards. I'm gonna say big m hm, take
Speaker 1: a shot. You ain't gonna have to take a shot. Japanese,
Speaker 1: the Japanese. Japanese, right, your next hold out for you
Speaker 1: rock him k Arras. I gotta go with Cameras, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's gonna do that anyway. Queen Latipa emc like this
Speaker 1: is always a hard one for me. M h. I
Speaker 1: love him, like, but I gotta go with Queen because
Speaker 1: of huh, what's what's her real name? Everybody keeps saying
Speaker 1: her real name because of you got going on? I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it again. I gotta go with Dana because of
Speaker 1: her range of everything she has going on, but it's
Speaker 1: really even almost Yeah, I mean Boxy Brown or eve
Speaker 1: mm hmm. You're drinking all right? Cool, expect that spect that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm lice and my ship too and my job in
Speaker 1: Nis Della, y'all. You know what you can do? Shot?
Speaker 1: Light shots? Let shot shot? Yeah, you can do light shots.
Speaker 1: You go heavy at all? That was dope, Okay, salute.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the next one. Buster eminem let me
Speaker 1: let me oh yeah, admit to you. I told you
Speaker 1: shot you do light shot buster eminem mm hmm. I
Speaker 1: shot just on the bottom the light shot like shots.
Speaker 1: He's gone, all right, I don't believe it. Oh this
Speaker 1: is a good one. Rather alert or molly mall. He
Speaker 1: went with you, you know, by the way we had
Speaker 1: he'd been with you. But I gotta go with better
Speaker 1: lars above all the me. Okay, Illmatic or ready to die.
Speaker 1: This is the wee spot. The legal we Spot text
Speaker 1: me every day. I figured, like, if my friend did this,
Speaker 1: he'd be in jail right now. The legal tells me
Speaker 1: they deals, you know, on the legal we Spot. They
Speaker 1: text me every day. I got I got a new
Speaker 1: strawberry ship. I'm like, yo, just like he's like, I
Speaker 1: really racing these messages. Illmatic are ready to die. Take
Speaker 1: a drink on that one, Okay, damn, I'm man. Don't like,
Speaker 1: don't lie. I'm going very like good eat you the
Speaker 1: next drink it up. Let drink up. Cheers to the cheers.
Speaker 1: Next one is MPC three thousand or machine machine. Even
Speaker 1: though the mp I have all the MPs. But and
Speaker 1: I started off as an MP dude. But my this
Speaker 1: sidem I just made that did with the with the machine.
Speaker 1: The whole album he was dumb. Yeah, I love machine.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it your MTV raps or video music box,
Speaker 1: video music box. That's kind of like an easy one.
Speaker 1: Ralphael James, we need you up here, Yeah we do. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is one you might have to drink
Speaker 1: O dB or bus Markey B Marquis of course, O
Speaker 1: D B. Of course that's my dude. But this Markee,
Speaker 1: come on, he's the first in that style. He's the
Speaker 1: first to do ahead of his time. He plus, he
Speaker 1: did so much for me. He got my first album deal.
Speaker 1: It seems he's in so many people's stories. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: They need to do a movie on business. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to play Bess. I've been saying that
Speaker 1: for when to do a movie on Bess? Absolutely? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: this made a whole another life for itself, entertainment with
Speaker 1: kids with the yo. Don't even know him about music. Incredible.
Speaker 1: He was like a superhero. Okay, Snoop Dogg or a
Speaker 1: game Snoop, DJ PURMEO Pete Rock m HM boor up.
Speaker 1: You don't have to changing. That's a tough one. That's
Speaker 1: a tough one. Give me a little ice Cuban. Then
Speaker 1: you got next one. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers, chess, um
Speaker 1: the locks or run DMC p huh, that one for
Speaker 1: me is easy. It doesn't seem that. Come on, we
Speaker 1: gotta go with one DMC one they would um, I
Speaker 1: want to ask this one ahead, funk flex or g
Speaker 1: J clue? Who lets I thought she's gonna say folk
Speaker 1: flex the kicker free, That's what he was gonna say that. Uh,
Speaker 1: folk flex the clue both in fluent. You both legends. Uh,
Speaker 1: let'll tell your drink, okay, all right, all right, I
Speaker 1: just expect that. Yeah, you're taking more because even to
Speaker 1: have to take Hey, I get hey, that's that's respect.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of friends, you a lot of friends,
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Okay, chers, cool, let's take that
Speaker 1: first out. You want the next one? I got it.
Speaker 1: M hmm, I got it. Kanye or Pharrell. Pharrell is
Speaker 1: the ship, but I would have to go with Kane.
Speaker 1: Let me think about that. Look about that stuff free.
Speaker 1: It's called quick time. Something's can be quick, something's cary
Speaker 1: something quickly. It's just nothing quick a long time. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Plus I got to see these people after we um,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a drink. Japanese some of Ice, a little solo.
Speaker 1: Oh you know I'm gonna turn Dominic answer Drinks, battle Cat,
Speaker 1: Felly Fell, battle Cat, Funny feel the Ship. But battle
Speaker 1: Cat did so much man bigger battle Cat and big
Speaker 1: both of the Blacks. Absolutely, but that Dre, you know,
Speaker 1: to work that he's done with Dre battle Cat. It's
Speaker 1: just so much. It's so much Wu Tan Clan or
Speaker 1: n w A clan. That's because your East Coast. That's
Speaker 1: because I was the first play without clan on the radio.
Speaker 1: Contam Let's have the rough draft of Protecting Attacking. Next
Speaker 1: they came in. I think it was Oldbris somebody else
Speaker 1: that came to station with the record on the Arrange
Speaker 1: label and not even checked it was an orange label
Speaker 1: and they I didn't check the yeah, like it was
Speaker 1: what it was an independent. I guess it wasn't siding
Speaker 1: a lot of so they I played it. He didn't
Speaker 1: even check to see if it was curses on it.
Speaker 1: Protecting that played it and blew. If you look at
Speaker 1: the movie, if you look at the documentary, you see
Speaker 1: them going crazy when I played the record. That's the
Speaker 1: true story because it's the first one playing the radio
Speaker 1: and the documentary on the Hulu. You see the last joint. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got me on the radio. He took I'm talking
Speaker 1: on the radio, asked me to do it. I talked
Speaker 1: on the radio and then I played the song and
Speaker 1: you see them one the season one season the first
Speaker 1: arm and Babbio played it. They played it on the
Speaker 1: underground radio, but I think I think they they was
Speaker 1: the first to play it on underground and I was
Speaker 1: the first to play it on the Manastrement commercials. That's
Speaker 1: crazy saying you broke ut clan. It wasn't because of
Speaker 1: you because of me. You played it, you heard it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what did you think hearing that? It was crazy
Speaker 1: because that was something brand new. But I ain't expect
Speaker 1: him to be blow up like me and fifty. Me
Speaker 1: and fifty was set was all the same label at
Speaker 1: the same time. I did. I produced Rowdy Rowley for
Speaker 1: fifty right. I knew he was God. I knew it was.
Speaker 1: I wanted him on my album. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I don't know what track
Speaker 1: Rasses did. Don't know what happened, But I wasn't that time.
Speaker 1: It's a freestyle with fifty, It's me, you that's in
Speaker 1: my session. That was right. He was on album. It
Speaker 1: was my punt. You did the red call the block
Speaker 1: part right. But I want a fifty or album. But
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, But I end up doing
Speaker 1: a rally rally for fifty. I had no idea. I
Speaker 1: knew it was incredible, but I didn't know what he
Speaker 1: was going to this level. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I see that. You know what I'm saying. Maybe I
Speaker 1: should have, but that dude, he really evinly worked. You
Speaker 1: drawing the same parallels when you heard who, you didn't
Speaker 1: know it was gonna go. I didn't know it was
Speaker 1: gonna be like I know what's a hit, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't. I don't. You can't never predict
Speaker 1: how big somebody's gonna get, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I know when somebody says your kid is just
Speaker 1: a hit, I can predict it. I can say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. And I did that for a lot of Jack.
Speaker 1: I got so many gold plaques and gold awards and
Speaker 1: all that come from that. You know what I'm saying. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kendrick or j Cole, I'm gonna say, Kendrick only because
Speaker 1: k J. Cole never came and got me. Kendrick did album,
Speaker 1: podcasts or radio. I say podcasts, but radio makes you
Speaker 1: a superstar. Radio when you get your record played on
Speaker 1: the radio and the DJs is on it and and
Speaker 1: in int the votation that makes you a start. That
Speaker 1: makes you a superstar. Podcast. They always asked me to
Speaker 1: do podcast. My radio show on Serious Sex and Fly
Speaker 1: the Block Party. If you listen to my show, I
Speaker 1: always keep everything positive. You could have did some ship
Speaker 1: last night that was negative. Something can I have you
Speaker 1: could have got the rest of or whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: talk about that. I talk about moving forward, not not
Speaker 1: can anybody that do because we need that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But it's just what I choose to
Speaker 1: do so that when people used to ask me, your kid,
Speaker 1: why don't you do your own podcast? That always been
Speaker 1: in my mind do I have to talk down on people?
Speaker 1: And then I realized I didn't, So maybe I might,
Speaker 1: you know, put one together. Never know Doggie style or
Speaker 1: the chronic chronic, because there would be no Doggy style
Speaker 1: problem chronic like that Dr Dre or puff Daddy, take
Speaker 1: a drink, You're want to vote TV God Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: dinking this Japanese del y'all baby, and some of that
Speaker 1: down mhm, DJ Quick or DJ Musty Mustars must Ship.
Speaker 1: I told Mustard wait till you see it publishing checks.
Speaker 1: They had that crazy year of him playing wait till
Speaker 1: you see him Puffic's gonna be crazy, and now he
Speaker 1: lives in a crazy house. But I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: Quick Quickly because yeah, we've been trying to get quick
Speaker 1: on here as well. Okay, you remember Bernie Max said,
Speaker 1: who do you think you think you? DJ Quick kicking Break? Yeah, Quick,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right, Djum Juice or New Jack City,
Speaker 1: New Jack City. But aren't you in Juice? No, but
Speaker 1: Juice was in the club that that club that they
Speaker 1: did the Battle Win, that was the powerhouse. I made
Speaker 1: that club big down. That's why they did the movie
Speaker 1: and that club. I love the movie, but the other
Speaker 1: movie was more really there. Yeah, the DJO was up
Speaker 1: on top of the It was like a rail. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like a rail in the year, and then
Speaker 1: they put people in front of it. They brought something
Speaker 1: money it's to put people in front of it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was dope. But New Jack City, I think was
Speaker 1: hit harder, heal harder than the street. That juice. The
Speaker 1: juice was incredible. But respect or loyalty? Last question, loyalty,
Speaker 1: because loyalty is gonna bring it's automatically respect. If you
Speaker 1: have loyalty to me with me, you respect me, right absolutely.
Speaker 1: We always say that that's the only trick question we
Speaker 1: got here because really that's the only time you should
Speaker 1: be really taking a shot. It's loyalty, respect because I
Speaker 1: think they go hand in hand. And I mean everybody
Speaker 1: has their own perspective, everyone's own perspective. Then yeah, Well
Speaker 1: with my people, people that always been around the circle,
Speaker 1: myself around, you know, there's always been a respect thing.
Speaker 1: It's always been loyalty. My manager been my manager twenty something,
Speaker 1: twenty seven years, twenty six years. Uh, my role manager, Jim,
Speaker 1: he'd been my manager, my role manager for just as long.
Speaker 1: And Jim is this hape of dude. He's trying to
Speaker 1: take being pictures. He don't wants to take pictures of him.
Speaker 1: He don't care about all the cute ship going on.
Speaker 1: I don't care about none of that. I went around
Speaker 1: and gave jobs to a lot of people around my
Speaker 1: old block, you know, and no shot to them. But
Speaker 1: they it just wasn't for them. This is you being lawyer,
Speaker 1: This is me being Loyd of my people opened up
Speaker 1: a hand shot for ten years with Curtis. That cuts
Speaker 1: everybody said, Curtis, Curtis Smith open a shop called Ebenez.
Speaker 1: No Curtis Smith, uh shop called Ebenez in the hood
Speaker 1: in my in my block for ten years, you know,
Speaker 1: to try to get back to my spo always gave back,
Speaker 1: you know, try to go back to get people that
Speaker 1: grew up with me or whatever a job and it's
Speaker 1: not It may not be for them, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Everything is not for everybody. I remember one
Speaker 1: dude said to me, your kid, I want to go
Speaker 1: on your tour bus. You look like you'll be having
Speaker 1: a bunch of fun. Man, You'll look like you'll be
Speaker 1: doing your thing. I don't want to go hang out
Speaker 1: cool come on big him on. Two days later. Y'all
Speaker 1: don't know y'all do this ship? Man, How you're gonna
Speaker 1: be in this bus all the side because it's not
Speaker 1: for you. You're not well, I can I would saying
Speaker 1: that is old. The persons I'm taking that was nice.
Speaker 1: I just put the bag inside the toilet. Boat. I've
Speaker 1: never heard of this kid stopped the bus? All right,
Speaker 1: all right, so what are you doing? All right? That
Speaker 1: means he keeps the bus. You gotta get somewhere quick, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to stop. I don't want to stop.
Speaker 1: You get you get the path, Marfa. Put the bag.
Speaker 1: Put that ship in the toilet, right you ship yours
Speaker 1: in that bag, and twist the tie of that bag
Speaker 1: and throw the ship out. Throw the bag. It's like,
Speaker 1: what the problem is? Everybody s everybody that smells that ship,
Speaker 1: so be knowing that it bothers everybody, and maybe you
Speaker 1: want to do it even bore anybody or you kill
Speaker 1: what pun? One time? And Pun was given everyone welfare cheese.
Speaker 1: So on the busts, A bunch of these things is
Speaker 1: coming to me that you can't and we would have
Speaker 1: with you. And I'm like, what do you mean, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: would punt? I can't allow that. And then they're like,
Speaker 1: Punt is given And Pun was literally given everyone welfare
Speaker 1: che because you know what that is. It clogs you up.
Speaker 1: You can't, you can't, you can't ship for the next
Speaker 1: twenty hours. And I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is torture, Like we're pulling a little with Roy Rogers.
Speaker 1: I don't know you got something, y'a don't know where
Speaker 1: Roy Rogers is? Well over Roy Rodgers. You got Rogers
Speaker 1: to the south. Yeah, I think so somewhere up north.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen boy and years. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: did that show my ages now? Like I want you
Speaker 1: you who happened? If I were, I've seen the driving
Speaker 1: around like yeah, definitely hard. Like you know, you don't
Speaker 1: realize waffle houses just some south ship. Yeah it is
Speaker 1: never if your waffle houses in New York, you know
Speaker 1: how much money they made? Really bigger being in New York.
Speaker 1: If there was a man, I wonder if we could
Speaker 1: open one up about this that's like us one a
Speaker 1: white castle out here, Yeah, a white castle in like
Speaker 1: Kentucky they got they got crystals out here. No, that's
Speaker 1: not the same man at all. That's not saying you
Speaker 1: had crystals before. Yeah, ain't. It's not the same as
Speaker 1: the murder Burgers. You don't even go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: the same you you don't get the bathroom ass long. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta regret it. You gotta be like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: was not Why do you have to lead the club.
Speaker 1: Here get murder Burgers. By the way, they call the
Speaker 1: murder Burgers murder Burger. I talked about Joe the other day.
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, you gotta add for murder, but
Speaker 1: that murger a boxter the box. You've been picking up
Speaker 1: holl them all day, but you haven't. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: hand in hand. Well, like I said, you want to
Speaker 1: raise in the I don't know. I know. I was
Speaker 1: born in Brooklyn. Oh wow, I was a couple of brains,
Speaker 1: but I was living wingsbur projects like fabricant projects back
Speaker 1: for the Avenue Brooklyn and I moved to Manhattan for
Speaker 1: three years, then left Manhattan and I moved to Bronx.
Speaker 1: When I moved to Bronx, that's when I got kick
Speaker 1: and pre the name a girl that used to um
Speaker 1: be around. His name Alga Carter. She said kick a
Speaker 1: pre side, A good name for a DJ because you
Speaker 1: was drinking are sons? I was no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I was DJ dr spake at the at the time.
Speaker 1: We got a damn name. First name was empty Yahoo
Speaker 1: with the ball to being turrible name name. But when
Speaker 1: she said kick pri she was all girl name. It
Speaker 1: was a girl named Alga Carter. We were going to Clamon.
Speaker 1: We're going to she was one of the girls. I
Speaker 1: was from work right away, but we was an excuse me.
Speaker 1: We was in a class together. We're gonna remember Mr
Speaker 1: Grant's class, and we were going in six rooms, six
Speaker 1: three oh four. That was a classroom. And she said,
Speaker 1: kick a pre sounds like a good name for DJ.
Speaker 1: So we had the sport good store called Effort Sporting Goods,
Speaker 1: and we used to take sweatshirts to put our name
Speaker 1: on it. And at the time, we used to eyron decreases,
Speaker 1: so we have eight creases look for us to shirt
Speaker 1: and our name going down and things. So I had
Speaker 1: kicking ping my joint. I was out. She did give
Speaker 1: you the she just said so. Some months later she
Speaker 1: was shot by accident by straight bullet and died. Damn.
Speaker 1: We did not know the stories right, and that's what
Speaker 1: made me keep the name and then just too right.
Speaker 1: So that's how I got the blessed. Let's make some noise,
Speaker 1: Let's give my moments, give him seven seconds and moment songs.
Speaker 1: Bless up woll I didn't know that stories gonna turn
Speaker 1: like that. That's how you got She never said that
Speaker 1: you drink sons of that wasn't out there. Now they
Speaker 1: come out into the nineties. I thought that she was
Speaker 1: out forever I was a little kid. Didn't come out.
Speaker 1: It was Carr out there. Our heart was out. Car
Speaker 1: Hot Card, you know what. Car Hard might have been out,
Speaker 1: but we wasn't on it yet. Yeah, because that story
Speaker 1: you're talking about. I feel like they still sell a
Speaker 1: car Hard right now. Okay, yep, So I said his
Speaker 1: name earlier. We skipped over it. But at one point
Speaker 1: it felt like you and funk Flex. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's the wrong ship. I felt like you guys
Speaker 1: couldn't get along listen man, or didn't get along. I
Speaker 1: love gona take a shot. Gonna take a shot for
Speaker 1: this some of that. I'm gonna take a shot. You
Speaker 1: gotta take a shot. I'm taking a shot, alright, coo cool.
Speaker 1: So what happened between you on funk Flex Flex? Let
Speaker 1: me just say that like that, but like that, so
Speaker 1: we're happened. But but but you know, he get a
Speaker 1: little man. I'm a gorilla and this ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know, I set a mark in this game. Funk
Speaker 1: funk Flex. What got me mad with Flex was that
Speaker 1: I felt like he was taking his power and mutioning
Speaker 1: in people's faces. If you're a little kid, right and
Speaker 1: you make a record and you put the record down
Speaker 1: and it's doing good, that's going on that, don't get
Speaker 1: in your radio and say, Yo, this is trash over
Speaker 1: the record. You know what I'm saying. That's that's sort
Speaker 1: of respects. So that's what my problem was. But when
Speaker 1: he said, I felt like what happened was we we
Speaker 1: we we had some words. I offered them to you know,
Speaker 1: something happened and then I got on that and say, yo,
Speaker 1: looks batter. It's batter for a hundred thousands. That's batter
Speaker 1: for the name. You lose, you can't use your name again.
Speaker 1: So you was on so you was you can't use
Speaker 1: your name no more. You can't lose. I can't use
Speaker 1: my name if I lose. I felt like I skipped
Speaker 1: over match. So wait a minute, um, y'all talking and
Speaker 1: do you said less battle for honey Grant? But how
Speaker 1: did this know? What happened was somebody had called me
Speaker 1: and say, your kid, Flex's ship doing you on the
Speaker 1: net right on the radio. No, no, none of that.
Speaker 1: You have to put a post up on the net, right.
Speaker 1: I was like, when you're talking about so, I want
Speaker 1: to go look at it. I was like, it said
Speaker 1: it was a picture of him, read alert and uh
Speaker 1: chuck shut out and it said under the caption, uh uh.
Speaker 1: People trying to people try to rewrite history. But I
Speaker 1: was there, I'm like, what I gotta do with me
Speaker 1: I know about history is they can talk about me.
Speaker 1: So I called this person back and at first like na,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, nah, he talked about
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, he is talking about so. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I called Flex right, and I said to flex Flex,
Speaker 1: who are you talking about? And instead of Flex saying
Speaker 1: to me your kid, it was you? Or was this personal?
Speaker 1: Was anybody else? He got crazy with me on the phone.
Speaker 1: He said some crazy shot on the phone, like Yo,
Speaker 1: don't don't if you don't like the way I do things,
Speaker 1: don't talk to me. Don't we ask him who I
Speaker 1: did this with and who that he got crazy with
Speaker 1: the floor You're talking like, I'm thinking he made here
Speaker 1: in the moon with maybe some people in the hot
Speaker 1: night he seventy He's trying to like show them that
Speaker 1: he could talk to me like that some kind of way.
Speaker 1: I don't look, but that's what he did. And the
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, he said he had text the
Speaker 1: text messages that we had talked to each other on
Speaker 1: the net, which I was like, come on yeah, But
Speaker 1: then he said I fell off. So when he said that,
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, now we gotta get that was
Speaker 1: go top. So that's when that's when the problem became.
Speaker 1: When he said I fell off, Like I fell off?
Speaker 1: Why because I'm not getting on everybody nerves on the
Speaker 1: radio station every day or New York. I'm all over
Speaker 1: the over the country, shaking it up, like you don't
Speaker 1: see me every day in New York. There, I fell
Speaker 1: off when you're talking about and I kept a DJ
Speaker 1: when I put my message out, let's keep it on
Speaker 1: some DJ ship. He got personal. So when he did that,
Speaker 1: that's when it got crazy. What do you mean when
Speaker 1: he said he got personal? Because he said I fell off?
Speaker 1: Like why would you say that? That's not the truth?
Speaker 1: Like why would you even put that out there? Why
Speaker 1: would you think that was personal? Why you didn't think
Speaker 1: that because you diagonize you Because yeah, I know that,
Speaker 1: but but but still if you say that the people
Speaker 1: that don't know don't look at it in a negative way.
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything negative. I can't. I just say
Speaker 1: nothing about your girl, your job. I just said nothing
Speaker 1: about your friends. I said something you, let's battle with
Speaker 1: funt of summer chair. Let's go battle for the day,
Speaker 1: battle for her thousands. And I left it dead. But
Speaker 1: he went somewhere else with it. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: it went where went. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the whole time, if people have called me and say,
Speaker 1: oh kid, I need you in the middle of everything
Speaker 1: we were going through, if he would have called me
Speaker 1: and said, oh kid, I need you for anything, I'd
Speaker 1: have been right there no matter what. It wasn't nothing personal.
Speaker 1: It was some dji. It was something, and it was
Speaker 1: good for hip hop. It was good for himpop. I
Speaker 1: was dope. It lit up ship. He caught a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure because I've got somebody at you do suck
Speaker 1: a ship too. I'm not somebody that you shoot on.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm been one that opened the door for DJ
Speaker 1: to do what they're doing now. I'm been when that
Speaker 1: brought the money and the fly ship to the DJ business.
Speaker 1: I'm Benn want to show you how to have style
Speaker 1: and peace and know you're worth you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I'm not the one you do that with. Promoters
Speaker 1: hired me all over the country. Fans come see me
Speaker 1: and sell out everywhere I go. There's a reason for
Speaker 1: that because it's not just the talent. I don't want
Speaker 1: to treat people. I don't. I don't shoot on people.
Speaker 1: There's not out there that says kick appreciate it on
Speaker 1: people did bad business. But what made you say you
Speaker 1: wanted to battle for a hunder grand? Because he said
Speaker 1: something first, because he went on to set, I fell off.
Speaker 1: So when he said no, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What made me say that was because he got smart
Speaker 1: with me on the phone instead of him saying, your kid,
Speaker 1: I wasn't talking about you. Oh yeah, I was talking
Speaker 1: about you, But he said, don't be asking what's going
Speaker 1: on on my phone? On my timeline, don't you know?
Speaker 1: And if I if I can show it went on it,
Speaker 1: don't call about phone no more. You're talking to me
Speaker 1: like he's something me like I ain't when you talk
Speaker 1: to you like that. So when he said that, that's
Speaker 1: when I put up with the post. Your dog will
Speaker 1: be cool. But yeah, let's do it for a hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: let's do it for the name as maths. Just do
Speaker 1: it for the coach. We shouldn't did that supper Jam
Speaker 1: and that was that he got disrespectful and says some
Speaker 1: other things and then they went further. So that's how
Speaker 1: that went. But but I'm gonna say this, funk Master
Speaker 1: Flex is a legend. You can't deny what he did
Speaker 1: with Hotting on the seven. He made that that station
Speaker 1: should be the number one hip hop station in the world,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you can't take that
Speaker 1: from him. Let's make sure we don't forget that, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Let's not get caught up in
Speaker 1: order of them locking and forget that he did do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So shout the funk Flex.
Speaker 1: Got love for him. That right there with some hip
Speaker 1: hop ship is nothing personal. He's one of the greatest ever.
Speaker 1: Did it? Okay, But that's what up, Bigger Funk Flex,
Speaker 1: That's what now. Something I was a little thrown off
Speaker 1: from watching the verses was um, you and scratch back
Speaker 1: and forth. I get that, you know, Chris, I'm calling
Speaker 1: Chris can arrest one and Kane was gonna talk to Ship.
Speaker 1: We knew that part, right, We knew that these are
Speaker 1: the two biggest you know, uh hip hop guys battling
Speaker 1: each other head the head. But then you and Scratch
Speaker 1: also icons and at one point, like he has this
Speaker 1: routine where he's like he's you know, he hasn't scratched, scratched, Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they make that clear. He's turning the back,
Speaker 1: and then he goes, you know, sucker, you know, DJ
Speaker 1: kicker free and yeah, you wanna you wanna respond already,
Speaker 1: like all right, let's start here. Kane called me and
Speaker 1: asked me to do versus act old Kine no, because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in a battle situation. I
Speaker 1: told Kane, I said, I will do it for both
Speaker 1: of you, you and Chris together. It's never been done
Speaker 1: on on versus before, so I'll do it for both
Speaker 1: of y'all, for both of them. But when he called
Speaker 1: you to ask you to DJ for him for him, right,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be in a battle situation. Plus,
Speaker 1: being Caress has a as buss as h came do.
Speaker 1: We have a big history with each other, so I
Speaker 1: still didn't want to be in a battle situation like
Speaker 1: I told you earlier, but asked four times to be
Speaker 1: on versus turned it down. So I didn't want to
Speaker 1: be in that type of situation. So when Kate asked me,
Speaker 1: I told him low that. Chris called me baby like
Speaker 1: an hour later and say, y'all what you do versus me?
Speaker 1: I told him though, and I told the reason why.
Speaker 1: I told him though. Then he called me back an
Speaker 1: hour later and he said, yo, Kay has scratched. He
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we should do it. It's min I
Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying. I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what if you came cool your let's do it right.
Speaker 1: It's bigger than me, and I got nothing to do
Speaker 1: with me. It's about y'all. Want to see y'all get
Speaker 1: your flowers and everything like that. So I left it
Speaker 1: like there in yourself okay. But I got a call
Speaker 1: k k back to let him know because I told
Speaker 1: him no, I want him to feel no kind of way.
Speaker 1: So called came back, told him I'm gonna do it
Speaker 1: like Chris wanted me to do with. He was like, yo,
Speaker 1: please go do it with Chris. I wanted to be monumental.
Speaker 1: Went to that I was like sure, He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: cool that he called me back. He said, what's going over?
Speaker 1: You were scratched? Now being scratched? Big cool? Wait, King's
Speaker 1: calling me back after you tell him no, I mean
Speaker 1: that you're doing it with Carris one and he's asking
Speaker 1: you what's wrong with y'all? Like he knew something was
Speaker 1: hold on, Hold on, hold, this is already. Let me
Speaker 1: go with being scratched being cool for a long time.
Speaker 1: We call each other all the time and all that.
Speaker 1: Like if any show I do, I put them on
Speaker 1: stage with me. With other dudes are scared to put
Speaker 1: him on stage, I put him on stage and we
Speaker 1: do a little t DJ together. All that, he started
Speaker 1: Scratch Vision. I would come to Scratch Vision helping with
Speaker 1: Scratch Vision. Then like four shows when he came to
Speaker 1: Brooklyn rocked it out. He asked me to do fifty
Speaker 1: two beats out did two in the sixty three beats
Speaker 1: for him. All that right, And soon as I started
Speaker 1: playing music on the net, I've seen the change. One
Speaker 1: day he called me it was like, Yo, you're playing
Speaker 1: music on the net on that ship. That cut off
Speaker 1: every y'all. I'm like And then he called me another
Speaker 1: time and he said something else that was like, so
Speaker 1: I let it fly. But then when it got crazy,
Speaker 1: it was when he started putting stuff on the net.
Speaker 1: He started putting stuff up there. I remember one time
Speaker 1: I had said, up, I have uh put all the
Speaker 1: far needles out first on the on the red on
Speaker 1: the television. He put up. And then he was not
Speaker 1: the first to do all the far needs And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could have called me and said that if I
Speaker 1: didn't know that I wasn't the first. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: like I never seen nobody put him up before me.
Speaker 1: But if I wasn't, you could have called my phone.
Speaker 1: We just got the phone with each other. You could
Speaker 1: have called me and told me that. But he didn't
Speaker 1: do that. He did that. Then the second day was
Speaker 1: the cash at thing that happened in the quarantine. He
Speaker 1: went in comment on that. Then it was something else
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, it was something so where
Speaker 1: me and him when just didn't see how the eye
Speaker 1: and I just wasn't sucking with scratch for whatever. And
Speaker 1: then we came to the battle to the versus thing.
Speaker 1: And when the versus state came up, he took it
Speaker 1: a part of himself to try to take the shot
Speaker 1: off of me to put on him, which that wasn't
Speaker 1: a good idea because first of all, I came there
Speaker 1: with good intent. You know what I'm saying, Like, it's
Speaker 1: not about me, It's about Kane and Chris wasn't about me.
Speaker 1: So when he did what he did, he made it
Speaker 1: about him. I got sucker free closer lines. Right, I
Speaker 1: came up there with a Gucci shirt. It was so
Speaker 1: much not about me that I wore a Goocy shirt
Speaker 1: I anywhere, something that I could have warred to the
Speaker 1: world for everybody to see what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 1: don't really like talking about this because I like blowing
Speaker 1: abody there. But he did. He put it out there
Speaker 1: at first. He did it first, so uh for him
Speaker 1: to do that, it was like, I'm not somebody you
Speaker 1: do that for. Listen, Brutch this you can take my
Speaker 1: career and take my talent and take all my abilities
Speaker 1: put to the left. There's nothing doubt there that says
Speaker 1: kick appreciate it all people. There's nothing doubt there that
Speaker 1: says kicking pretty there bad basiness with people. There's nothing
Speaker 1: out there that says kicking people wrong people. So right there,
Speaker 1: you lose. I'm not the person you do that too.
Speaker 1: Whatever your attentions were, whatever you feel like you needed
Speaker 1: to do, I'm not the word you do that too,
Speaker 1: whatever your thoughts were. They're calling me world's greatest DJ.
Speaker 1: They give me the attention I get. I do as
Speaker 1: many shows as I do. Whatever that is, that's something
Speaker 1: that God has placed it by life. That's stuff that's
Speaker 1: not nothing that somebody else can take away or beat.
Speaker 1: Because you get in front of a camera and feel
Speaker 1: like you're gonna shoot on me and this is your opportunity.
Speaker 1: So right there, you lose because of those facts. Because
Speaker 1: I have no smart or my name, you can't win.
Speaker 1: And then if the ship on top of that, you know,
Speaker 1: when I get on that stage, my pressure is gonna
Speaker 1: be different. I don't get if you got sparks flying
Speaker 1: off your turn tables, I'll get what you do on stage.
Speaker 1: Kick pre hits that stage. It's gonna be an event,
Speaker 1: and that's worldwide. That's wherever I going. That's the true
Speaker 1: for that's God give it. That's not me bragging. That's
Speaker 1: what it's been for years. There's no downtime. So I
Speaker 1: didn't understand why he took that opportunity to do that
Speaker 1: or that platform because it didn't work, and then you
Speaker 1: speak afterwards, there's nothing to really talk about. Instead of
Speaker 1: him saying to me, your kid, I apologize for what
Speaker 1: I did that was wrong. I should have did that.
Speaker 1: He go on the net and he puts the video
Speaker 1: out saying that the rob that I said was for Kane,
Speaker 1: which it wasn't. It was for you. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? You got the timelines mixed up. It was
Speaker 1: for you, said ROB, I said the robot. I stopped
Speaker 1: the rob because it wasn't about me. I didn't mess.
Speaker 1: Somebody started another. I stopped rob because it wasn't about me,
Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, and t about myself
Speaker 1: while I'm saying that it's not about your kids, to
Speaker 1: stop it. Stop. He said that it was about k
Speaker 1: what she wasn't Then he said kick it pre doesn't
Speaker 1: what DJ is the shine. That's why he takes DJs
Speaker 1: on the road with him. Well listen to that, making
Speaker 1: DJ shot like taking this ship and kid do it.
Speaker 1: If I'm taking them on the road and pay them
Speaker 1: on his money and they're going to see the country
Speaker 1: and they're getting in front of these crowds they're making
Speaker 1: them shots because I didn't take you on the road
Speaker 1: with me. You don't need to go on the road me.
Speaker 1: You scratch, But why would you say that? You try
Speaker 1: to put the navative out there like I should. Look,
Speaker 1: you could never ever question what I've done for the
Speaker 1: DJ business ever, nobody cared as far as you know what.
Speaker 1: You could never question what a different music period without
Speaker 1: did something for the way you make me feel. Mixed
Speaker 1: with the impeach the president, that changed the R and
Speaker 1: B game, that changed the all you now had to
Speaker 1: make rob all the artists have the big records over
Speaker 1: all B over a break beat records like Mary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like it changed the whole game. So you
Speaker 1: can't you can die for or what I did for
Speaker 1: the game. And on top of that, I stayed with
Speaker 1: my ear to the street. I stayed with my ear
Speaker 1: to everything that's going or that's why my album that's
Speaker 1: out right now side the way it does. Because I
Speaker 1: refused to be last. I've refused to let somebody tell
Speaker 1: me I'm less dead. But let me let me stop
Speaker 1: for one second. What made you not want to react
Speaker 1: back like when he because I believe because what he
Speaker 1: was trying to do in my opinion, and I was
Speaker 1: I'm outside of looking it, and obviously he's like, you know, sucker, DJ.
Speaker 1: That was like what we used to say back in
Speaker 1: the days, like you know what I'm saying. But I know,
Speaker 1: like anybody who was new, I probably couldn't comprehend that.
Speaker 1: What made you want to keep your cool? And I say,
Speaker 1: you know because I did. If you see my show
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the verses, you see I toured
Speaker 1: the ball plays shretch. You see that there's nothing to
Speaker 1: talk about. After that, I came to do it a
Speaker 1: side of it. D asked me to do it this side,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna do. It's not about me.
Speaker 1: It's about Caress and Chris, not about me. This is
Speaker 1: not the chance for me to put the shot on me.
Speaker 1: This is about me trying to help my dudes get
Speaker 1: what they deserve. That's where my attentions were. But I came.
Speaker 1: I could have came there with something set up to
Speaker 1: go again, Scratch, was it about that? But you knew
Speaker 1: at one point that he was going to do that
Speaker 1: had before the show started. I came up to the
Speaker 1: stage and say, you Scratch, I love you. We don't
Speaker 1: see how the eye right now, But we got to
Speaker 1: get back to it. I walked away from no balancing
Speaker 1: my heart wrong. So when I went to my dress
Speaker 1: the room, somebody comes back to somebody comes about dressing
Speaker 1: when we say, your scratches garbage up there, like what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So I got to look at Scratch,
Speaker 1: and Scratches played all the records that he don't play
Speaker 1: the I play. He must have looked at what about
Speaker 1: shows something, and he's playing all the records that I
Speaker 1: played in the role. Then he played my better stretch record.
Speaker 1: Why would you do right? Why would you do that? Like?
Speaker 1: So right there I knew some suckers ship was going on.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at um like damn, that's how you
Speaker 1: do it, and the crowd is at the standstill. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: So I go on stage and nicked this place, and
Speaker 1: now he had to stand there and watch me. No, no,
Speaker 1: there was none of that ship was in my list
Speaker 1: of what we look like. That's why I was blocked
Speaker 1: out to me like why he was gonna block this?
Speaker 1: So I do understand what he was doing so they
Speaker 1: would not go on stage, and I like this ship
Speaker 1: and both of y'all warming up? Is he's all before me,
Speaker 1: and I said, let me go off versus first, let
Speaker 1: me get anything crazy. He could come and have to
Speaker 1: do his trick ship doing ship making about the show.
Speaker 1: He didn't want to do that. He wanted to go
Speaker 1: first because he was he thought I was playing these records,
Speaker 1: so he thought he was gonna throw me off. What
Speaker 1: are those records of the list of what I was playing?
Speaker 1: But I seen the sucker ship, so that he did that.
Speaker 1: The crowd stared around looking at him, like yo, what
Speaker 1: he's doing? And then I come up and they unite it,
Speaker 1: and then that he had to stay there and watch that.
Speaker 1: Then he had to stay there and watch how I
Speaker 1: was playing the music for Carerest Abong Tide of, he
Speaker 1: was playing the music for Kid Dead Caress kills him.
Speaker 1: Stay in your place, another man tells me to stay
Speaker 1: at my place. We're gonna fight or stage right right
Speaker 1: that the man that you back it up tells you,
Speaker 1: now we doing that. He ship saw you. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was crazy. Kane was like, no, now he
Speaker 1: ship saw a scratch like yo, right, what happened? Particular
Speaker 1: because everyone's watching this watch the verses, so let's say
Speaker 1: what happened was I forgot Scratch was gonna go in
Speaker 1: and do like a whole thing that was assuming was
Speaker 1: going at But Cain was like, Na, no, not even
Speaker 1: because you know Na, and this is the dude that
Speaker 1: you're backing up. Then they're adding something the injury. You
Speaker 1: disrespect the dude that's down with your camp and tell
Speaker 1: the dude Drazz that's from Dias effects. Y'all. I know
Speaker 1: you ain't been on the stage in a long time.
Speaker 1: To get off the stage. Who are you to tell
Speaker 1: that man that that's Karrest and Chris of guests, Scratch
Speaker 1: said that Jazz, he said that the dazz look at
Speaker 1: the show, look at it. I know you ain't been
Speaker 1: on the stage in a long time, but who but
Speaker 1: get off the stay. I know you ain't been on
Speaker 1: the microphone a long time, and get off the stage.
Speaker 1: Who are you to tell that man that this is
Speaker 1: a man that was down with your cat's effects man,
Speaker 1: that he made it so much about him that this
Speaker 1: is what he said to that man in front of
Speaker 1: the world. I don't even like talking about this. I
Speaker 1: don't even like when people ask me about it because
Speaker 1: it's not something that I want to get off. But
Speaker 1: y'all ask it, and this is what it was. This
Speaker 1: is what it is. We're gonna put the navative out
Speaker 1: the way it is and to control your old navative.
Speaker 1: Let you know that now, like Games said the other day,
Speaker 1: control your own NATA it is. Don't let nobody. Don't
Speaker 1: let nobody think no kind of way about you because
Speaker 1: somebody said sort and trying to put some kind of
Speaker 1: display or you, or you get mad at somebody because
Speaker 1: they're bad at you. You are sucker if you mad
Speaker 1: at somebody because somebody else's mad at you, or feel
Speaker 1: some kind of way about you. You know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 1: but that's what it is. That he did that on
Speaker 1: the world stage. He got caught up and being there
Speaker 1: at a reader and forgot those campuses in his face.
Speaker 1: And my thing was, why would you do that to
Speaker 1: be I'm not to do to do that to help people.
Speaker 1: You know, any time you need me, I'm there. I've
Speaker 1: been there for you, scratched many many times. I asked
Speaker 1: you to come be there for me. You haven't been
Speaker 1: there once to teach you the NPC. I asked you
Speaker 1: to teach you to come do my my internet show
Speaker 1: you never came once every time you asked me to
Speaker 1: be there. I've been there, shout your ship on my
Speaker 1: radio show, Scratch Vision and all that. But you said
Speaker 1: you said something important earlier. You said that, um when
Speaker 1: you reached out to When Kane reached out to you,
Speaker 1: he asked me, well, what's what's going on with you
Speaker 1: and Scratch? Because I told Scratch I don't with k
Speaker 1: that Kane Helm After Kane asked me that. After I
Speaker 1: called came back and told me I was gonna do
Speaker 1: it with Chris, he called me back thirty sex seconds later.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, what's going with your Scratch? I
Speaker 1: don't even know how. I don't remember how he knew.
Speaker 1: But then I told him. I was like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: is what happened. He was like, YO, do me a
Speaker 1: favorite man, you know, just let it go. I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, can shoot on me three times. Usually
Speaker 1: didn't get away with that one time, and that's it.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, k It's about y'all.
Speaker 1: It's about y'all. It's cool. Now, let's keep it very funky.
Speaker 1: How do I told Scratch or how I told k
Speaker 1: that I was gonna do it? Scratch would have even
Speaker 1: been on the show. Care that's wouldn't have got him,
Speaker 1: So he wouldn't have been on the show. So for
Speaker 1: him to go on there and say that Rome I
Speaker 1: was going it was about Kate. It was like, come on,
Speaker 1: beat this your opportunity to take to try to shoot
Speaker 1: on me in front of the world. Really, why would
Speaker 1: you do that me? You would do that be on
Speaker 1: the phone every other day. But it shows you that
Speaker 1: you never know where it's gonna come from first, and
Speaker 1: it's nothing new. I think a wa do the ship forever.
Speaker 1: I put out south ttrack to the Streets with J
Speaker 1: and Nas and this one, and DJs wouldn't play my
Speaker 1: records on the album or the record you was on
Speaker 1: the album. They would play my records on the radio
Speaker 1: because they don't want to see kick and pre getting
Speaker 1: no further. Kid got hard, Kick get big. And it's
Speaker 1: stupid because you DJ's, I'm saying this ship to you.
Speaker 1: Let me win a cab bat say to your cavil
Speaker 1: you DJs, you trip over playing there everybody's record that
Speaker 1: don't give a shit about you. You ship over dudes
Speaker 1: that you you go crazy over playing this one's record
Speaker 1: of that where they don't even call to see if
Speaker 1: you're healthy, if you ate, if you're good anything. But
Speaker 1: somebody that's see your business that do the same thing
Speaker 1: that you do, is trying to get the same struggle
Speaker 1: go off the same way you are in the DJ.
Speaker 1: But as you won't support them, you won't play their
Speaker 1: music because you think it's taken away from you, You dumbass.
Speaker 1: All of your dumbasses that think that way, All of
Speaker 1: you got something say see me. All of your dumbasses
Speaker 1: that think that way, smartened up. If I blow up,
Speaker 1: you blow up. If you open the door for me,
Speaker 1: you blow up, You open the door for yourself for
Speaker 1: the DJ to go and better. And that's what my
Speaker 1: whole ship always been. It always been that. So why
Speaker 1: don't you hate on the album soundtrack in the streets?
Speaker 1: Why don't you hate on anything I put out? You dumbass?
Speaker 1: Take it out? You take it now. You're right. They
Speaker 1: you see that supporting themselves. If they're supporting the fellow DJ,
Speaker 1: they supporting things that they might do in the future.
Speaker 1: So now I did this album the love and regardless
Speaker 1: of it DJ played or nobody playing, my ship is dope.
Speaker 1: I sound better than a lot of you rappers. And
Speaker 1: I don't even do it. I don't even shot ready.
Speaker 1: I think it's tough for a SHOT's. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: talking talking. Yeah, I literally still if Jay didn't stand
Speaker 1: up for taking a piss, I wasn't standing up to
Speaker 1: take a fiss. Oh, I'm taking a piss and they're
Speaker 1: not taking a fiss. I had jay Z loose the
Speaker 1: other day. Right, he came to see me. The last
Speaker 1: party I did for Jay, I did his Oscar party.
Speaker 1: I never seen Ja the old Oscar party and they're
Speaker 1: like the gold one. Right, I've never seen him. He
Speaker 1: someone invited us. I've never seen him dance before. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't be invited this like that. You know, I've
Speaker 1: never seen him dance before. He danced for like a
Speaker 1: long time with Beyonce. He was dancing. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. To see that was bugged. I
Speaker 1: see Kanye pick you up to in the documentary. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, put me the ball? What was the ball?
Speaker 1: Was the ball? He said something with kick a priest
Speaker 1: somebody and the kid. I don't know that was put
Speaker 1: me in the ball, but thank you shout a shout
Speaker 1: the Chiller Jones. He did do it, did it dope
Speaker 1: joint about joint, so right now, and I want you
Speaker 1: to be clear. What's your favorite party? The white boy
Speaker 1: parties where the girls rip out, Wednesdays show, the Tenny,
Speaker 1: the black parties, old school parties, new school parties. If
Speaker 1: if God said, listen, you got one party to do
Speaker 1: to get to heaven. The party that has young and
Speaker 1: old together, everybody together. The party is that called whatever
Speaker 1: party that is my my my spring break because the
Speaker 1: old nigg is don't go to spring break no more. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the thing is a lot of older people
Speaker 1: don't party with the younger people, and the younger people
Speaker 1: don't party with the older people. But then in my
Speaker 1: parties would be like that. You'll see young and older together,
Speaker 1: they all have a good time. Because my whole thing
Speaker 1: always been a balance. And even if you listen to
Speaker 1: my radio shows called the black party, kick block party,
Speaker 1: a black party, you go to block party, right, Everybody
Speaker 1: is different, ages, the dress different, different, everybody, nobody's second grade.
Speaker 1: Everybody have a good time the same. And that's what
Speaker 1: I'm bored. I wanted to say, Ballots, I played the
Speaker 1: new ship better than the young DJ, so I don't
Speaker 1: lose by it. Because I get older, I stay in it.
Speaker 1: Listen to my album to Love. You can tell it
Speaker 1: right there. You did it on your own. I did
Speaker 1: the whole album, produced the whole album, wrote the whole album,
Speaker 1: did dance no Bay Street artists to get on it.
Speaker 1: I got my daughter Viena Love, I got select reggae artists,
Speaker 1: and I got Lavelle r the artists. That's it. I
Speaker 1: couldn't asked anybody to be about joy. I just stopped, Tom,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying on your own, no label? Well, I
Speaker 1: produced to that rot in, It's on my label when
Speaker 1: it's going through Empire. Okay, big up to So what
Speaker 1: made you want to do that? I did every day
Speaker 1: I could do with this DJ business, I did it all,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's side in the quarmar
Speaker 1: tine and I watched a lot of suckers ship going on. Right,
Speaker 1: Dudes that was standing in front of the may back
Speaker 1: before the quarantine talking about they getting money. Soon as
Speaker 1: the quarantine hit five days later, they begged for cash shops.
Speaker 1: Its about cash app you' said twenty hours about cast
Speaker 1: just talk about DJs. Yeah, I ain't gon find still
Speaker 1: a lot of cash apps a lot of cash, right,
Speaker 1: But but but will send me to Linkol and I
Speaker 1: just be like, yeah, that's the ship. But but but
Speaker 1: it's a difference for DJ a new light on club business.
Speaker 1: Weren't surviving. Wa wait a minute, it's a difference when
Speaker 1: people want to send you money because you're working, pul
Speaker 1: pent up there working apposed and you turning around every
Speaker 1: five minutes asking for a cash. Your who could send
Speaker 1: me five dollars in my cash after two minutes? Yo,
Speaker 1: sets of my cash at it sound like we're begging.
Speaker 1: Sound exactly know, But here's my thing. The quartity happened
Speaker 1: five days ago. You're doing bad already. Don't try to
Speaker 1: get me with the bullshit. You do it bad already.
Speaker 1: You're taking advantage of people in their misery. That's what
Speaker 1: you're doing that you tell first, you talking to So
Speaker 1: with that being said, I was on the I was
Speaker 1: on the net for three years. Never asked for a dollar.
Speaker 1: I made no Penny Sunday t shirts to sell the
Speaker 1: people and it sold out, and I never said them
Speaker 1: to him, never took their money because I felt guilty
Speaker 1: taking money for people. That the reason why I did
Speaker 1: it was because promoters and fasts sell out my joy
Speaker 1: promoters had me come around the country, around the world
Speaker 1: and fast come and sell it out. I felt like,
Speaker 1: this is my way of giving something back. It's my
Speaker 1: give it to a free I say it plays is
Speaker 1: my way and giving something back to them, like yo,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So what I see not
Speaker 1: that they were getting money, because if you're burning electrics,
Speaker 1: did you work and people should want to pay you
Speaker 1: and say, yo, here, yo, you're entertaining me. Yo. Let
Speaker 1: me say you some brad, that's dope. But the now
Speaker 1: we're the change when you turn around and people's businicy
Speaker 1: with yo, let me see you can send me fifty
Speaker 1: of my cash chapter and you you a d you
Speaker 1: call yourself in DJ This is something that took care
Speaker 1: of me my whole career. It makes us look like
Speaker 1: we're thirsty. Got promoters watching this ship promotos look at
Speaker 1: the pay these things what they would and we're begging
Speaker 1: for buddy. So it looks crazy to me. And I
Speaker 1: stood on it. I said what I said, and at
Speaker 1: first people didn't understand it. So they got on my
Speaker 1: lives and they understood it. And I even talked about saying,
Speaker 1: is that that's rock and let's play music. We're supposed
Speaker 1: to be doing this ship, then let us do it
Speaker 1: because of the situation. But now you're over here asking
Speaker 1: for money, we're gonna get cut off. And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what happened. It started getting cut off because if Marian
Speaker 1: Cabby looks at your ship is she said, they're playing
Speaker 1: my music over it, I be like, yeah, how long
Speaker 1: have you played it? Let's go back in the video tape,
Speaker 1: see how long it's been going on. Okay, yeah, and
Speaker 1: it cuts you off. That's what happened. I think what
Speaker 1: that to happen. I was off for three years or there,
Speaker 1: never had a problem. Yeah, because then they their pins
Speaker 1: and their pins just saying cash at or something like that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the pit. It was them saying that. It
Speaker 1: was like they were begging. Because he didn't do the cash.
Speaker 1: He didn't say it one time. He didn't say yo,
Speaker 1: said buddy, he put his pin up. That's it. And
Speaker 1: he was somebody like myself that could have got a big, big,
Speaker 1: big bag had he turned around and said yo, saibody
Speaker 1: about cash aft, regardless of it looked cheesy or not,
Speaker 1: he could have did that and blew up. He didn't
Speaker 1: have to do that. He didn't do it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that was one of the things
Speaker 1: I was mad at Scratch act because Scratch when I
Speaker 1: put that post up, scratched one of my combat before.
Speaker 1: You say something about b D. Dice and that's and
Speaker 1: that's taking cash aft with your donsarsistic ways and whoop,
Speaker 1: the whoop, the whoop. I wasn't even to talking about y'all.
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about comment. And that's what Big Daddy came.
Speaker 1: He could have cured me, he said about comment, I
Speaker 1: wasn't even talking about that. I'm talking about niggas. That
Speaker 1: wasn't DJs that was doing this ship, that was making
Speaker 1: the business that me and you scratched her in that
Speaker 1: makers look like we thirsty, like you supposed me on
Speaker 1: my side. Instead, you took this opportunity to put the
Speaker 1: attention on yourself and shipped on me because I'm standing
Speaker 1: on for something that's right. When you could have called me,
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that, Like, so that was my stats
Speaker 1: I've ever missed A c called me was like more
Speaker 1: than that. He said, Yo, you're a thousand percent right
Speaker 1: at what you said. He said. But more than that,
Speaker 1: he said, I have a different way of looking at it.
Speaker 1: He said, these are the same dudes ever said it
Speaker 1: in front of a bay back talk about they get
Speaker 1: money as soon as the ship happened. They're begging for cash.
Speaker 1: Ats that's where I got it from. That's in the exactly,
Speaker 1: And it made us look like we're thirsty, like like
Speaker 1: we It was nobody else doing, no actors, no nobody else,
Speaker 1: it was just the DJs, and they made us look
Speaker 1: like we're not doing good. These same guys asked me
Speaker 1: for this cash. That what they're entertaining on Instagram during Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's right there talking And it wasn't even doing nothing.
Speaker 1: They were just taking advantage of people's misery at the
Speaker 1: time it was going on. And that's what I had
Speaker 1: a plot with And the only reason why I said
Speaker 1: something it had a plot with it because I was
Speaker 1: doing it before I got dead quarantine came up. I
Speaker 1: was doing for three years before the Quarvertine came two
Speaker 1: shows a week every week, never asked somebody for a DIB. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in this situation. Yeah, I know you, but there's
Speaker 1: a classy way of doing days. If you need it.
Speaker 1: You're I'm gonna pit DJ and you see me playing,
Speaker 1: Come see me the ball if you like me. When
Speaker 1: this ship opens up, happy, come do your wedding. Happy,
Speaker 1: Come do your That's a I see way of doing this.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a certain way to do what people
Speaker 1: take advantage of. Every somebody said, who could one day
Speaker 1: everybody saw smoking. You don't even know who get his?
Speaker 1: Sure you're they call a sea shot, I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like, that's that's what my problem was.
Speaker 1: But I'm not I'm not a posed of people getting paid.
Speaker 1: Like if people want to send your buddy or whatever,
Speaker 1: the hell yeah they should. You up there, burden electricity,
Speaker 1: you work it. Hell yeah they should. They should do
Speaker 1: it now if you were there doing it to take them,
Speaker 1: send money to them, let them work. But the way
Speaker 1: they would do it, it just made us look real cheesy.
Speaker 1: It made us look crazy, and I felt like I
Speaker 1: had to say something. So I thought Scratch would have
Speaker 1: my back. And with the other way, with the other way,
Speaker 1: I don't want cash back. We gotta take our cash
Speaker 1: the link off of our link tree. She got real,
Speaker 1: she got real. H So have you ever liked um
Speaker 1: did a party. These people will just come out to
Speaker 1: you and want you to play what they want to hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we usually drunk people be females. It usually be
Speaker 1: females that get drunk. Like one time, so there's someone
Speaker 1: in that check she was with a man and she's
Speaker 1: bagging on the side. I don't really be a boost.
Speaker 1: But it was a spot that only had a boothy
Speaker 1: with no space that to be set up back. But
Speaker 1: he bagged. She's bagging the booth. You'll play some Jamaican
Speaker 1: music bagging the booth. What's the Jamaican No, So that's
Speaker 1: not the music like jaking music like Yo, you know crazes,
Speaker 1: which is like and that guy out, but also for
Speaker 1: the drink off for a man to drink, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you go through that. Sometimes I don't really
Speaker 1: go through it because when you keep people occupied, they
Speaker 1: don't think to say that. It's when you're not doing
Speaker 1: your job. Somebody comes up and says, yo, can you
Speaker 1: play this and play that? Because they're they're boy. That
Speaker 1: only happens when their board. That's why you got people
Speaker 1: keep everybody or they told you gotta keep everybody excited.
Speaker 1: At one time so this way they will never feel
Speaker 1: that they have to do that. They really have the
Speaker 1: right because if you work anyway, I'm not coming to
Speaker 1: your job and tell you how to do your job.
Speaker 1: So while you feel like you should come up and
Speaker 1: tell me how to do bobs or any other DJ
Speaker 1: that's what their job is to do. But in their mind,
Speaker 1: they paid the cover fee, and that's paying your feet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they think that you're the money actually band that they
Speaker 1: want to hear all the songs, but they also pay
Speaker 1: the cover free to a movie theater. They're not cover
Speaker 1: over there. Tell the guys when the show the movie's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like they do. Tell the police, I
Speaker 1: pay your motherfucking taxes. Well they should because a lot
Speaker 1: of police some do their job by doing a lot
Speaker 1: of great police. But that's police. Where that got they
Speaker 1: asked with where they were yo, just like ts A
Speaker 1: dudes at the airport, they got the asked where they
Speaker 1: were Yo. The girl didn't find him attractive, and they're mad.
Speaker 1: They grew up mad, so they got a badge. They
Speaker 1: want to take that ship out on people that you know,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah you can see who that is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you can't confuse that with people interfering when the
Speaker 1: cops are doing their regular job and jumping into the mix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the crivalent enough going up to the DJ booth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how I'm going comparing it to Yeah, both is wrong.
Speaker 1: Both is wrong. We're coming and saying, hey, man, I
Speaker 1: want to hear ain't no half stepping you like you
Speaker 1: in the middle chief keeping y'all niggas coming to you.
Speaker 1: I mean old nags come to you. Man. I wan't
Speaker 1: ain't know half stepping. You don't know which one it
Speaker 1: is which, Just stop and talk to someone that comes
Speaker 1: to the Dgypt is a fucking vibe killer. But what
Speaker 1: if I know the DJ even worse, even worse than
Speaker 1: you know the DJ. Really see what people don't understand
Speaker 1: If I'm in a certain place, If a DJ is
Speaker 1: in a certain place and just doing a certain thing,
Speaker 1: you can't as a person that as a as a customer,
Speaker 1: come up to say, yo, let me stop, just let
Speaker 1: Joe do this. He may not be in that area,
Speaker 1: but she as a person who's not a DJ or
Speaker 1: somebody that's not an entertainer, you're not thinking that. What
Speaker 1: you're just thinking about yourself not thinking about the bigger picture,
Speaker 1: which is burerk a day way, this is not this
Speaker 1: is I gotta satisfy all see that if people thought,
Speaker 1: see here's a day. People want the the end result.
Speaker 1: They don't care what happened before the end result, and
Speaker 1: that is I gotta deal with getting dressed, packing my clothes.
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with getting to the airport. I gotta
Speaker 1: deal with possibly losing my stuff. I gotta deal with
Speaker 1: asshole tears say they feel like they want to be cops.
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with laten that' I gotta deal with
Speaker 1: losing my bag, right, I gotta deal with losing my bags.
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with getting there, and then I gotta
Speaker 1: deal with getting check in the hotel, getting something to eat,
Speaker 1: doing sound check, coming back to get dressed, all these
Speaker 1: different days before I do a party, to be in
Speaker 1: front of you. They don't care about. They don't know
Speaker 1: none of that. They know it wasn't good at the party.
Speaker 1: That's all they care about. The same way it goes
Speaker 1: vice versa. Those people pay to get there in a car.
Speaker 1: If they don't have a car, they got a podcast
Speaker 1: or whatever. How they gotta get there. They get there,
Speaker 1: they pay to get in. They gotta buy clothes to
Speaker 1: look fly to be at the party. Once they get in,
Speaker 1: they gotta buy drinks. They do all this because you're
Speaker 1: in the building. How do you not give them the best?
Speaker 1: You give them? So it works both ways. You said
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The bottom line is the end result.
Speaker 1: People want to be entertained. It's your job to entertain them.
Speaker 1: They don't care about anything that happened before that, even
Speaker 1: though they partly should if they knew what you went
Speaker 1: through to go. You know shows, you know your dog, right,
Speaker 1: you know what your preparation was before you went to
Speaker 1: go hit that stage, right, and you do I'm a
Speaker 1: foul naker. Well I'm just going prep But I can
Speaker 1: tell you this. I can tell you this whether there
Speaker 1: was fourteen people there or forty people there, if they
Speaker 1: had fun, I had fun. That's it. That's that's it.
Speaker 1: The whole preparation of everything that to make that happen.
Speaker 1: It's something that people don't care. They pay their ticket.
Speaker 1: It's the taby. If you're not good, I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: on the net and talk about how bad your ass was,
Speaker 1: even if it's your fault, bad equipment, bad sound bad.
Speaker 1: It's you stop the promoter. It's not the sound issue.
Speaker 1: If you did wait, I paid my money for I'll
Speaker 1: be get at your ass. So imagine you with that,
Speaker 1: and you got two of the fifty shows every year,
Speaker 1: every year, you do this constantly and never get no
Speaker 1: bad reports. You say you got two shows. I was
Speaker 1: doing two of the fifty shows, and we're down to
Speaker 1: two hundred. And I talked about badager of Christie Clifford,
Speaker 1: which is incredible bnager. I told her, we have to,
Speaker 1: we have to, we have to slow down. I just
Speaker 1: want to do weekends. I can't do all these dates
Speaker 1: that I'll cover that be At one point shows with
Speaker 1: me Nick was that because the leaves with me. And
Speaker 1: then down here Bammy. I started doing CABBYO and I
Speaker 1: got me a crib. I bought a loose when you
Speaker 1: perform that loose Luke, I was doing loops, I like three.
Speaker 1: When I started doing Cabrio, I bought a crib down.
Speaker 1: I got a crib down here twelve for college. I
Speaker 1: had the cript for died years. At that time. We
Speaker 1: still going on. But you know, being on the road
Speaker 1: that much, yo, I had to carve it down. I
Speaker 1: was like yo, let me, I gotta just do the
Speaker 1: weekends now because it was just too much. It was
Speaker 1: too much, and I wanted to do one thing. So
Speaker 1: when the pandemic happened, I got a chance to. Because
Speaker 1: I've been on the road from eight to the pandemic.
Speaker 1: If I took off two months within that time tributated together,
Speaker 1: that's a long time I've been on the road fever,
Speaker 1: So when a pandemic happened, I had a chance to
Speaker 1: sit down and focus on other ship. I had other
Speaker 1: things that I wanted to do right. So that's how
Speaker 1: I did the Top of the Love. I did four
Speaker 1: other to three other albums besides that, the album called
Speaker 1: Top Tire. Before this, I started album like four years
Speaker 1: ago with all the battered rappers. I never put it
Speaker 1: out because music kind of changed. I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: let me just hold off for that and get back
Speaker 1: to it. So when I did this album, I went
Speaker 1: back to the Top TiO album. While I was doing
Speaker 1: this album, every re updated the Top TiO album. So
Speaker 1: I did that. I did an album with a group
Speaker 1: call the Hoodies. You might see the Hoodies on the net,
Speaker 1: do what they think? I just finished the album warn them,
Speaker 1: produced a joy. I got an artist called Food so
Speaker 1: they had done an album, or myself. So I did
Speaker 1: four albums. I did two Car Tools or one of
Speaker 1: the car whether the characters are the Proud family Car
Speaker 1: Tool that's coming back out. And then I did my
Speaker 1: old car Tool. I did a movie call Mr. Every
Speaker 1: Other or be I'm not a five sit done all that.
Speaker 1: I opened up my Cold a Sucker Free, and we
Speaker 1: opened up East Coast Capital Realty. I did all this
Speaker 1: in the pandemic. All this was done to the pandemic.
Speaker 1: So Jazz she has East Coast Capital Um and we
Speaker 1: did all this in the pandemic. So when the album
Speaker 1: came out, it was because you could. It was because
Speaker 1: I needed something else. I needed it just the time
Speaker 1: to sit down and focus. That's why the album sat
Speaker 1: the way it doesn't, because I had a chance to
Speaker 1: sit down and realized what I was doing. Beard on
Speaker 1: the voter was I even lost forty pounds because being
Speaker 1: on the road, even if you exercise every that, you
Speaker 1: still eat that show, so you don't get a chance
Speaker 1: to catch up on yourself. I lost forty pounds in
Speaker 1: a pen duck. So as much as it was a
Speaker 1: bad thing for a lot of people. It was pretty
Speaker 1: good for me because of these reasons. You know, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to get it off if somebody needed
Speaker 1: to a lot of people needed to be still for
Speaker 1: a second. That's what the pandemic need to sit down.
Speaker 1: So when this kicking pretty book coming out, I've been
Speaker 1: I've been working on the movie. We the movie is cinematic.
Speaker 1: Wait till you see this ship. It looked incredible. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the movie first, So probably do the book after,
Speaker 1: and the excused to do it first. Let go, that's fine,
Speaker 1: Always do this a little Yeah, that's fine. So the
Speaker 1: movie first, to Rad Malcolm Ship. Then I was like, all, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it don't have it's a rude to production. That's true
Speaker 1: in the book. That's not in the movie exactly because
Speaker 1: of the movie. Even when like like you take like
Speaker 1: you take a any movie you take James Brown movie
Speaker 1: Get All Up, Big Jagga, Big Jagger did Get On Up.
Speaker 1: But he also did the documentary which is Mr Dynamite,
Speaker 1: right things to the Mr Dynamite Get On Up. Because
Speaker 1: Get On Up you already have a certain amount of
Speaker 1: time to tell a story. You don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of time in the movie so a lot of things
Speaker 1: get left out, a lot of things get cut off.
Speaker 1: That's why documentary is so important. That that's why people
Speaker 1: love documentary so much. Unsung it all these things because
Speaker 1: it tells. It tells the rise of the fall, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And that's why it's so dope.
Speaker 1: So we're just documented I did. It's called Mr. Every
Speaker 1: Ever and every era this to every Ever like Mr. Everything,
Speaker 1: but every every ever last name Mr So, Mr. Every
Speaker 1: Other shows a lot of stuff that when we brought
Speaker 1: it so certain Compley doesn't want to say today is
Speaker 1: what we brought a certain companies they say, your your
Speaker 1: story is too long kid to do a movie, so
Speaker 1: we need to do six parts. So that's what we're
Speaker 1: doing right now. It's a six part documentary. Well it's
Speaker 1: been well we put it together. We're gonna put it
Speaker 1: down as six parts because the story is too long
Speaker 1: about it's too long, it's too much states to talk about,
Speaker 1: and it needs not it needs to be that yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you work when right carry too right. I didn't work
Speaker 1: with I did uh really cool, but I would say
Speaker 1: the first person as the part I canna tell you
Speaker 1: what I did party with the first party Barta Stewart,
Speaker 1: but I did bother Stewart first party. First, her first part,
Speaker 1: first your first part, first hip hop project Bob is two.
Speaker 1: And the party is just when she came home or
Speaker 1: this is before she went. This was she because that
Speaker 1: she came that's crazy and she comes home. I think
Speaker 1: she came home first. I did a party of Trump's house. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is pre ratio Donald Trump president of
Speaker 1: the Trump's house before he just before he became. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: before me came on that. I did probably drudge Trump's house.
Speaker 1: I did Eddie Burfie. I did find let's let's stay
Speaker 1: on Trump House. Okay, were Trump House at Florida? That
Speaker 1: should like you need a helicopter getting at Jeffrey? Is
Speaker 1: that Jeffrey a little right now? Alan, You're right, I
Speaker 1: definitely I didn't mean to stay like that, but hey, alright,
Speaker 1: so you went down on the Trump House. I wasn't
Speaker 1: looking at all, right, crazy, you look like you need
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the room that we was in,
Speaker 1: everything was solid gold pitches, folks, dis ship he was
Speaker 1: president before it was just before the president. He's still
Speaker 1: us venus wo. Yeah, it was pretty big. Asked me
Speaker 1: how much did Trump pay? But I don't want I
Speaker 1: would have it would have been flaving us that he
Speaker 1: didn't pay. No trump pants line, don't got the whole country.
Speaker 1: Trump paid the whole country and make somebody else. But
Speaker 1: you don't got the p PB loans. You think that
Speaker 1: you think this war would have happen if Trump was
Speaker 1: still in off? Why? Why why would you do? I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think our side had anything to do,
Speaker 1: like we wouldn't have controlled what you think he was stopped.
Speaker 1: I don't. This is what you're saying, and it's some
Speaker 1: real holy ship thinking like yeo, man, let me don't
Speaker 1: got no army no more. Let's just gonna But that
Speaker 1: sounds like some street ship though, like, don't you're talking
Speaker 1: about puting thinking that? Yeah, like who were like fading
Speaker 1: really lit like that? No more? I'm just gonna take
Speaker 1: over this ship. What's what's not arting about that? You know?
Speaker 1: You know he only said I street about that. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan of Trump, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: But the only reason I would say that maybe it
Speaker 1: would have been a thought not to do it is
Speaker 1: because Trump was so wild that maybe poom be like yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy. We can't predict what this
Speaker 1: guy's getting. Nobody wild and this motherfucker's I might as
Speaker 1: well not do it right, Yeah, because Trump will say
Speaker 1: crazy ship like he talk keep talking North Korea. You
Speaker 1: know we're gonna burn your ship down. At least. Trump
Speaker 1: came outside every day like Biden and were he he
Speaker 1: needs to He didn't, Man, he needs to talk. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of neither, but I said what
Speaker 1: a fan neither either. I tell you one thing Trump
Speaker 1: came outside about. Trump was talking a little crazy bro.
Speaker 1: I can't take it, came out. I try to take
Speaker 1: the way the Trump talking about I think COVID. He's like,
Speaker 1: I got COVID taking his mask off, Like what did
Speaker 1: you do with the microphones? Was the President like urged
Speaker 1: you streaking COVID into the microphone. That's how you know
Speaker 1: he would look. But Trump is crazy. I think he
Speaker 1: picked up Poot and he's like, yo, shout him out
Speaker 1: for what he's just doing. Right. No, no, not for
Speaker 1: what he's doing right now. Picked up for what he's
Speaker 1: doing right. Trump said, he picked him up. He said
Speaker 1: something like, I respect it. He said something like that,
Speaker 1: I respect him for it. This is politically we never
Speaker 1: really talked about right before. I don't know if we
Speaker 1: get out of here or not, but I want to
Speaker 1: talk about your history of Big Um. Was it strictly
Speaker 1: because of Columbia records? Was it? Was it the Harlem
Speaker 1: connector Big I was cool, you know, it was cool
Speaker 1: with d T. So yeah, And they asked me to
Speaker 1: just do put it on back and there I was
Speaker 1: just doing that. But I used to go down and
Speaker 1: don't see Big out just all random just hang out
Speaker 1: down there. I used to tell Big I was like,
Speaker 1: you're big you you You're about to be something. Man.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you know what I understand. You
Speaker 1: got your boys, you love your boys out here and
Speaker 1: every day, but you gotta stay off the street corner, man.
Speaker 1: You gotta still he was doing. He used to be
Speaker 1: outside all the time. Actually just drive out and just
Speaker 1: hang out with him. That's tithing, like you're you know
Speaker 1: before the records that you use on the record. This
Speaker 1: well this is after he put it on, sounding like
Speaker 1: you know, like you just just you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like just trying to be low, like know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like just stay out the way. Like you know what's
Speaker 1: going and do your records, just do your stuff. But
Speaker 1: you know, l was so cool. It was just soo
Speaker 1: like if you listen to the way he robed when
Speaker 1: you met him, it was a total opposite the way
Speaker 1: he robbed. He robbed like like he'll chop your head off.
Speaker 1: But when he was just sucked subtle cool dude, like
Speaker 1: just a little fly, little dude. Like it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it was, it wasn't nowhere. It's like it was just cool.
Speaker 1: So I used to tell him like dogs, like I
Speaker 1: know this is your boys. Everybody's cool way. You know,
Speaker 1: I know all that, but like trying to be at
Speaker 1: the house, right do you shoot? Stay out the way?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, just try to stay
Speaker 1: out the way. And unfortunately what happened happened, man, I mean,
Speaker 1: wasn't his fault, you know it. Uh, you know it's
Speaker 1: a big loss, man, because I wanted to see how
Speaker 1: far he was would have been crazy, he'd been crazy,
Speaker 1: you know, U sounfortunate. But he was one of the
Speaker 1: he was one of the dope dudes. Definitely, you met
Speaker 1: Big in Tupaca, right, absolutely a matter of fact. You
Speaker 1: see this did you see this. No, we sent it
Speaker 1: to us, straight to you right now. We'll be in
Speaker 1: big right there. Hugged each other. Why I never must
Speaker 1: have interacted a lot. Yeah, I mean he immortalized me
Speaker 1: big a piece of r G. Brucey Bee kicking proven
Speaker 1: many hemmortalized me. So but you know, Big was cool man,
Speaker 1: solid dude man like I remember did the show with
Speaker 1: him in Detroit and a matter of fact, was the
Speaker 1: players outside, Yeah it was. It was a little different.
Speaker 1: It was a little different. Was the back in the
Speaker 1: backstage and he had a car then way they the
Speaker 1: way they set it up, it was a car that
Speaker 1: drives to the to the it's addressable. So I went
Speaker 1: back there I seen him. It was like you're bigger.
Speaker 1: So it was like I got some music that you
Speaker 1: might want to hear whatever. It was like you got
Speaker 1: some shoot shot. It was like, yeah, that's some ship.
Speaker 1: He went on stage. When he went on stage, I
Speaker 1: remember hearing this roar. It was like it was like
Speaker 1: I never heard a roar like that from crowd. He
Speaker 1: was that big man. When I do hit the stage,
Speaker 1: it was mangle time. So it was unfortunately lost someone.
Speaker 1: As long as earlier we did as we did, but
Speaker 1: you know he was so powerful as legacy on their fever.
Speaker 1: How about then, I know I know Pop. Every time
Speaker 1: I seen Pop. I remember one time being I was
Speaker 1: a l I was a crush show. I was at
Speaker 1: some restaurant, was like three o'clock in the morning. I
Speaker 1: went to some restaurant with with UH people and Pop
Speaker 1: was sitting in the restaurant with some dude nobody else
Speaker 1: in the restaurant, and I hugged him and he had
Speaker 1: a bulletproof vessel on. Then I seen him in New
Speaker 1: York at this seminar that they had it that it
Speaker 1: was forgot to them in the seminar, but it was
Speaker 1: at the New York Hilton Hotel, and I've seen him
Speaker 1: near hugged him neck. He had a bulletproof vessel on.
Speaker 1: Every time I said, I seen him on hundred twenty
Speaker 1: fish three. One time me and Bess was together, we
Speaker 1: took this picture all of us hugged him. He had
Speaker 1: a bulletproo vessel and it was like he was kind
Speaker 1: of like knew that he was gonna die, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And um, that was unfortunately too man,
Speaker 1: because you know, if I think I think if he
Speaker 1: would have been here. He probably would have started to
Speaker 1: school or something, have been somewhere over there. Both of
Speaker 1: them would have been around, both of them what they
Speaker 1: would have done again, absolutely absolutely so yeah, definitely that
Speaker 1: was a big loss in hip hop for sure. How
Speaker 1: about Prince this kick if we have a print story, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Prince came to Prince came to the Key.
Speaker 1: I did a party downtown in Manhattan called the Key
Speaker 1: Prince this Game. I'm sorry not to keep club the
Speaker 1: Sky Club and Prince comes in. Was he flow in?
Speaker 1: Watch this? He sits with me, He sits in the
Speaker 1: booth with me for two hours. I put another DJ
Speaker 1: on the plate, me and Princess. You will forget that.
Speaker 1: He will have his ass out. It was his ass
Speaker 1: super super super cool, like you totally forget because he's pressed,
Speaker 1: like solid and nice with the basketball, crazy with the ball,
Speaker 1: super crazy with the ball. Woman play itself like a
Speaker 1: real NBA motherfucker, like really nice like that. Yo. He
Speaker 1: sat there with me for two hours, bro, and we
Speaker 1: just talked about all kinds of ship. Then he had
Speaker 1: me come to his club. When he did preparate that
Speaker 1: the club, he had a minute in Minneapolis I did
Speaker 1: it twice for him. Did that joint When I tell you, man,
Speaker 1: you totally forget these prints. Like I'm talking, he had.
Speaker 1: He had these pigtails on his head like this, like
Speaker 1: these big gass braids in his head. Sitting at the club.
Speaker 1: We sat there for two hours and I did a
Speaker 1: little set where I played all his ship back to back,
Speaker 1: play the ship back to back. And he was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I never heard of DJ played my ship like that.
Speaker 1: And this is I was talking like some of the
Speaker 1: dudes that you see that we grew up on on
Speaker 1: television and we looked at we look at him in
Speaker 1: a certain way. But they ain't really real people. They
Speaker 1: just people like us. They're do different know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like Rod Ozley, I'm sitting role sitting together ones that
Speaker 1: we did a boat rider. Uh this just uh this
Speaker 1: the truths for seven days me Rosey got bad the
Speaker 1: cad Douggy like a whole bunch of people do with
Speaker 1: this ship. The whole bunch of people. And I said,
Speaker 1: I said, our green was on age, right. He had
Speaker 1: his white dope suit over this rough shirt. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean, Rosy sitting next to each other already loaded,
Speaker 1: so I said, said all the husband, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: you're like I agree. It was like, yeah, like, I'll agree.
Speaker 1: What the funking got on? You know, he was shipping
Speaker 1: on his clothes and he's saying this while he got
Speaker 1: a shade on jeans on bleother jacket, hat backwards baseball cap,
Speaker 1: sitting there like me. That's what I'm saying, Like, we
Speaker 1: see people a certain kind of way, but they'd be different.
Speaker 1: Whitny Houston, Houston, shout the whit they Houston. We see
Speaker 1: a certain kind of way. It was a different way
Speaker 1: that that that docks a down or anything like that
Speaker 1: or anything like. But you know, people, people are people.
Speaker 1: We are people. We are no better than nobody else.
Speaker 1: Just because you have a startup job where you're iditate,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you better than anybody else. You just
Speaker 1: have a different job. That's why when people embody this,
Speaker 1: I hate it. I said this over the records a
Speaker 1: new record I did. I hate a little rapper that
Speaker 1: walks around like a little rapper all day bufuck. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to turn it off. I'm not kicking
Speaker 1: pre what I wake up, I'm David Love and then
Speaker 1: I'm kicking pre what. I need to turn it off.
Speaker 1: That's an ill DJ name. Don't too David Manny, people
Speaker 1: said the New yor kid while you recall yourself D
Speaker 1: Love DJ D Love because at the time you made
Speaker 1: up a Dame grandmass a flash, wasn't gonna call it
Speaker 1: something Jose and shose some Sallah. You say you made
Speaker 1: up a day to be bigger, So that's what it was.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was I could have been D Love
Speaker 1: or whatever I'm saying, but that's how I am. I'm
Speaker 1: not that I'm not kicking pre when I wake up
Speaker 1: and up that all day, I don't know. I know
Speaker 1: to turn it off, and I turned it over the
Speaker 1: need to be. But there's some dudes that the body
Speaker 1: this ship all day and they think that they're doing
Speaker 1: people a favor. You're not doing nobody a favor. People
Speaker 1: are doing your favorite and when they cut them lights off,
Speaker 1: you're gonna really see when you are too busy to
Speaker 1: sign an autograph for somebody all of a sudden, YouTube
Speaker 1: busy due busy to a drop for a DJ or
Speaker 1: anybody that needs to drop. You would have you would
Speaker 1: have loved for people to ask you for that before
Speaker 1: you got so now you are you're too busy for that.
Speaker 1: You feel like you're too big for that. You ain't
Speaker 1: ship that before, be too big and then and then
Speaker 1: fall off again. You see DJs do that before. I've
Speaker 1: seen DJs a thetainers and people that's just business be
Speaker 1: very unhumble. First they humble, they get on, they're very unhumbled,
Speaker 1: and then they fall off and they're more humble than
Speaker 1: it was before it was before they started. I've seen
Speaker 1: it over and over again, because people come and go,
Speaker 1: you know, the business coming go. That's why you gotta
Speaker 1: you have to understand that there's always somebody that's more
Speaker 1: talent to you. Listen, Michael Jordan was Michael Jordan's, but
Speaker 1: you don't think there was a Michael Jordans somewhere else
Speaker 1: in the world that was nice that nobody knew about.
Speaker 1: He just didn't have the accolades. He didn't have it
Speaker 1: that was known. There's always gonna be somebody that's good
Speaker 1: or better than you. That's why you have to appreciate
Speaker 1: shape the position you with people would break down all
Speaker 1: to be in a position to me yourself and yourself.
Speaker 1: Is it right? Now? You know how many entertainers that
Speaker 1: y'all have a call yet that would love to be
Speaker 1: in this seat to tell that story and dream champs.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, that's that's a that's a privilege.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you how do you knock that?
Speaker 1: How do you act like that's not a great thing
Speaker 1: for yourself? And how do you treat people less than
Speaker 1: because you're in that position. You was not busy before,
Speaker 1: but now you're too busy to speak to people inside
Speaker 1: autographs that you know it goes head to head. This
Speaker 1: is a business that we in and in order for
Speaker 1: you to be made and stay as long as I have,
Speaker 1: I've been it's been this hot thirty years, never had
Speaker 1: no downtow. You know what I'm saying, I'm a testament
Speaker 1: of it. In order to stay like that, you have
Speaker 1: to treat people fairly. You're not better than nobody. You
Speaker 1: just have a different job, that's all. And people have
Speaker 1: to understand that. Treat everybody with the same respect that's
Speaker 1: it demanded and give it. That's it, no more, no, no,
Speaker 1: no less, and and and and that's what makes you stay.
Speaker 1: That's what made people respect you. And even if you
Speaker 1: fell off, people that was there when you was on
Speaker 1: will always have your back. They will always make sure
Speaker 1: they got you because they see how you treated people
Speaker 1: all the way up. You look, it's not made for everybody.
Speaker 1: The last long I'm saying, nobody will ever last. Everything
Speaker 1: hasn't ended. Everything hasn't ended. But if you're able to
Speaker 1: stay as long as you have, know that that's a blessing.
Speaker 1: Though that there's somebody that wasn't able to do that
Speaker 1: and you was. So with that being said, treat it fairly,
Speaker 1: treated with respect, don't don't you know certain days I
Speaker 1: just see people do I'll be looking on the that
Speaker 1: I'll be looking at that ship like you don't do
Speaker 1: you don't know, like you look stupid. Don't know that
Speaker 1: you play yourself, you don't look Come on, bib, it's
Speaker 1: just so you gotta if you wake up in the morning,
Speaker 1: you look at the mirror, you you gotta know how
Speaker 1: you look. You look. You know, you gotta carry yourself
Speaker 1: a certain way and that that's just I just see
Speaker 1: stuff that was like damn, but you know you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't you responsible. Had everybody moved you ever got
Speaker 1: corner in the East West Coast, West Coast, in the
Speaker 1: middle of the East Coast, West Coast peace. Let's keep
Speaker 1: in mind when the ship thing happened on the source,
Speaker 1: I was an announcer. I was announcing on the television,
Speaker 1: so I'm sitting in the fifth row when it happened.
Speaker 1: The energy in the room felt like anything was gonna
Speaker 1: happened at any time. When our cast came out and
Speaker 1: they got boomed, it wasn't because our cast wasn't good.
Speaker 1: It was the bad day that was going on at
Speaker 1: the moment in the middle of the East Coast, West
Speaker 1: Coast beef. I was going back and forth to California
Speaker 1: out there like it was not for like, I never
Speaker 1: had an issue. I was doing parties with Crips and
Speaker 1: Bluffs and Mesican Games, and I did one party with
Speaker 1: Christal Bluffs and mess Gate. They had this warehouse and
Speaker 1: like some ship was gonna jump off at any time,
Speaker 1: but because of be keeping them occupied so much. That
Speaker 1: sounds amazing though in a warehouse. Chris blufs in the
Speaker 1: Mexicans that it was right in the middle of Hussans
Speaker 1: in Beach, California. And you know, beefs happened in parties
Speaker 1: when people are not occupied with people standing there and
Speaker 1: they grew with each other. They got chance to look
Speaker 1: at each other stok at all that. If you keeping
Speaker 1: people out compella, you making people feel good. You can
Speaker 1: step with somebody's foot. They'd be like, oh, they're gonna way,
Speaker 1: we're are. But if they standing there, they have chance
Speaker 1: to get into ship. I fortunately don't have problems at
Speaker 1: my parties. I would have shootouts. How have gun fights?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have no kind of fights at my joint.
Speaker 1: Everybody is always having a good time, no better where
Speaker 1: I'm back. And the one they got very proud of
Speaker 1: is if they put a phone up, they put it
Speaker 1: up to see me for a minute, and that pholt
Speaker 1: is down. They having a good time. It's not stand
Speaker 1: on the phone looking cute the phone? Who started that ship?
Speaker 1: Who started this ship? Who started this in the mirror
Speaker 1: looking cute? That dawsonsistic ship. I just get it. And
Speaker 1: I would say this to the chicks. Chicks, if you're
Speaker 1: bad already, you don't need that attention. You don't need
Speaker 1: to put extra ship on it. You're bad already. Let
Speaker 1: us let us push you up. You ain't gonna put
Speaker 1: yourself up through the picture up there, we see that's it.
Speaker 1: All that extra looking at the bever Darson sister. It
Speaker 1: looks stupid to me. I'm gonna be very honest with you.
Speaker 1: That was a dump off. Let's go back on and
Speaker 1: you've been knocking down ship for a long time. Question
Speaker 1: did you finish the thought about in the midst of
Speaker 1: the East Coast West Coast so like in the middle
Speaker 1: of the East Coast West Coast beef, I'm going back
Speaker 1: and still go to the west still probably the only one.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you something straight up. Definitely an
Speaker 1: it was so bad at one point, and I think
Speaker 1: after I got WHOA, I'm just doing something with that.
Speaker 1: And as soon as I landed in l A that
Speaker 1: had security for me, like they're like three, Like that's
Speaker 1: how bad it was, Like you couldn't even tell them.
Speaker 1: I would tell you why. I think why I was sold.
Speaker 1: When you say you he was doing in the West Coast.
Speaker 1: This is before Big pass after this is during the
Speaker 1: middle of the v It's in the middle of the beef,
Speaker 1: And I think the reason why I was sold I
Speaker 1: didn't catch any issues or any plots because I was
Speaker 1: always supporting the West Coast. I was the first to
Speaker 1: play let me let me go here. I was the
Speaker 1: first to play Ghetto Boys by playing tricks on me
Speaker 1: on radio. That's why the very first award that I
Speaker 1: ever got was for the Ghett Boys was the Biolay Tricks.
Speaker 1: That was my first award before any ward. I was
Speaker 1: because I made that hot Hot in New York. Say
Speaker 1: they were outcasts. I made Southern Catia playing list in
Speaker 1: Cadillac Music Hot New York before I played on radio,
Speaker 1: Before any party played there was never played these records,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I built up with West Coast.
Speaker 1: I was playing at w A and I'm not the
Speaker 1: reason for it blowing up to New York, but I
Speaker 1: was so indulged in being in the West Coast parties
Speaker 1: and doing parties out there. Def Comedy Ja was out there.
Speaker 1: It was just going crazy. It was just really big.
Speaker 1: So I caught a lot of respect in the West
Speaker 1: Coast because of the work I was putting there before
Speaker 1: the beef happened. You see, I'm saying, so where the
Speaker 1: beef happened there, I've never had that issue. I would
Speaker 1: be in the worst, deadliest places and everything would work
Speaker 1: out good because I respect everybody. I respect everybody. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you come. For me. Where you at.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's better than nobody. Yeah, we started hip
Speaker 1: hop and we was the first once we were, you know.
Speaker 1: But I told cool Hurt, you know her, what do
Speaker 1: you think her? I told her, what do you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna stay in the box. It's never gonna stay
Speaker 1: The bob was so big, it's gonna go out the
Speaker 1: world like and that's what it is. And that's it.
Speaker 1: You have to treat everybody with the same about the respect.
Speaker 1: But okay, I asked this to other people on the show,
Speaker 1: and from your viewpoint, did you think that the beef
Speaker 1: was East Coast first West Coast. It wasn't crew versus crew.
Speaker 1: It was it was one person against one person. And
Speaker 1: because this these two people have so much of influence
Speaker 1: on both coasts, the coast got involved too many people
Speaker 1: on each side of It was just the coast guy.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a coast against coast. It was I got
Speaker 1: I got Biggs back, I got Pops back. That was
Speaker 1: so it was that it was not It wasn't a
Speaker 1: thing where East Coast hated the West coast me of
Speaker 1: course that at the West Coast hated. It wasn't that
Speaker 1: it was pockets repper to eat its repper to West.
Speaker 1: All right, Well I got his back, period, that's it,
Speaker 1: And that's loyalty. That's what loyalty is. You got somebody's
Speaker 1: back that represents you can't be bad at that. But
Speaker 1: where the problem business that it became deadly. It became deadly.
Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a pocket, big diet. This
Speaker 1: is music. We're gonna die for music. It's supposed to
Speaker 1: be something that bring joy to our life and bring
Speaker 1: money to our pocket and may bring joy the other body.
Speaker 1: Everybody's let me take the ship a little too serious.
Speaker 1: That's why with all this game, ship coming into it
Speaker 1: in the music and all that, that's not for the music. Bro.
Speaker 1: We're watched all these people die. Really but like this
Speaker 1: is music kids, it's kids. They don't see their future.
Speaker 1: A lot of people I feel like they're gonna live
Speaker 1: past five Definitely, they're gonna past certain times. So they
Speaker 1: do shirt and ship to try to get as much
Speaker 1: in before they go where they think. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it's not like that man, you know,
Speaker 1: and that lotal life to live with a lot of
Speaker 1: ship to do me for your cup up? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Absolutely black excellence. Absolutely you know, got done.
Speaker 1: Holy moly, kind of holding myself man, shots shot there
Speaker 1: you go, and I'm holding myself pretty good? Is I don't?
Speaker 1: Keep in mind? Yeah, I'm proud of you. Do you don't.
Speaker 1: Let's take it to track master days now you what
Speaker 1: you done with track? My sisters a producer. No, what
Speaker 1: happened was I was signed to Columbia, not the track.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a deal yet when I got I signed.
Speaker 1: I was signed to Columbia and I did the first album,
Speaker 1: the A and R. At that time lost my dad
Speaker 1: tape to the album the Master that so I told him, fuck, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing the while when you lose my fucking dad. Really, So,
Speaker 1: for five years I was signed to Columbia. I was
Speaker 1: already hot, sizzling doing what I'm doing. I didn't need
Speaker 1: no record. So for five years they helped I was
Speaker 1: there and didn't do nothing. They just helped me sign.
Speaker 1: So then one day they called me and said, yo,
Speaker 1: we just put track passes with Columbia. We want to
Speaker 1: put track masses with you to do your album being
Speaker 1: in our new tone and poke. I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: I know them like cool and we end up doing
Speaker 1: the album. I produced all the ship track bassars that
Speaker 1: they did. They did the Foxy Brown record with the Locks,
Speaker 1: and they did the remix to the Unity record. Everything
Speaker 1: else I did. Norvy came. We did the album that day.
Speaker 1: Norvey came. Pun It was crazy, puned. He came to
Speaker 1: the studio. I was recording the Lords Boys, and I
Speaker 1: took the Lords Boys out of the studio. I put
Speaker 1: Punt in. Punt came there with his wife and his kids.
Speaker 1: He pulled a cheer up, sat in the chair, did
Speaker 1: one verse, did when at but without the booth for
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. He had all those people. He had his
Speaker 1: wife and his kids sitting around him while he was
Speaker 1: doing his verse. He was out the booth. That's the record.
Speaker 1: You meet him and meet him on that record and um,
Speaker 1: and that's how that happened. As it fantastic. It was
Speaker 1: crazy that story visors Remy Mars recollection and your recollection
Speaker 1: of Punt having his family around him. Yeah, that Punt
Speaker 1: want no joke when he came to that. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: what's your favorite thing right now? Is it making the
Speaker 1: music or performing the music or playing the music? Yours
Speaker 1: is a three part question. Making the music, performing the
Speaker 1: music or playing I love it all man one if
Speaker 1: I could pick what playing the music, but I like
Speaker 1: I love making the music. I love you know righting.
Speaker 1: I love being able to see people dancing to my ship.
Speaker 1: If I played in the club, or if somebody playing
Speaker 1: in the car. If it's just like I walked to here,
Speaker 1: y'all was playing the apple over here. That makes me
Speaker 1: feel like, dad, kid, you really did good. You did
Speaker 1: your ship. But let me ask you why you stay
Speaker 1: playing the music, because I remember when he plays the music,
Speaker 1: he also performs it right with him. It's been times
Speaker 1: like I've been having shows and like polling or something
Speaker 1: like that, or you know, Doozo Dolf Germany or something,
Speaker 1: and I will go there at six o'clock. You know,
Speaker 1: even though the doors over the nine. This is a
Speaker 1: regular ship like out here, and I'll go to that
Speaker 1: clock and see people there. All right, you're gonna try
Speaker 1: to shut down. So is it like that when you
Speaker 1: when you when you DJ and where you're sitting there
Speaker 1: and you do you walk into clubs? And do you
Speaker 1: do you in my backstage when I'm in my dressing mood,
Speaker 1: my thing is gym. How's the crowd of your carback
Speaker 1: is like this, like that if you put any crowding
Speaker 1: for the beat brushes. Here's here's a deal to say
Speaker 1: people that the fifty thousand that I might be in
Speaker 1: front of, if fifty people came, they're gonna get the
Speaker 1: same energy is a fifty. It's no different, he said.
Speaker 1: I'm saying especially, it's no different. That energy is always
Speaker 1: gonna be what it's going to be. Right, But there's
Speaker 1: even it goes even further than that. Promona may called
Speaker 1: me and do everything that I expected to doing my
Speaker 1: on my riding, right, and there's something like grade happens
Speaker 1: where only fifty people may come. All right, I'll turn
Speaker 1: that promoter. You'll go set up something, come to do
Speaker 1: it for free, ex up another jokey, I'm gonna come
Speaker 1: do it for free. Where the other artists who say
Speaker 1: yo's at the guard, they gotta do with me, get
Speaker 1: my money. I'm out. That's promoter would say, your kid
Speaker 1: got me with with I'm down kid, They're gonna kick
Speaker 1: me further. You're gonna make sharp good so that he
Speaker 1: has we cut back six more times that year. Fine, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, because things can happen, you don't want to
Speaker 1: just take buddy. For promoters, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that they're good, you know what I'm saying. And a
Speaker 1: lot of times sometimes we just get into old ship
Speaker 1: some promoters because there's some Jakie promotas out there. But
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be dealing with Jackie promoters. Is up to
Speaker 1: you to cricket to separate you from mainly Jenki permot exactly,
Speaker 1: and only that you need to know your worth and
Speaker 1: that promoters out here okay. And you you stop after
Speaker 1: that point, you then lose. They lose. I gotta take
Speaker 1: this ship, but I know he's a ship on somebody
Speaker 1: that you know it's going to bring the money. Always
Speaker 1: did a great great business, always does his job. It's
Speaker 1: the wrong thing because people think short term. I always
Speaker 1: thought long term. That's why I was able to stay
Speaker 1: thirty something years heavy no downtop because I think long term.
Speaker 1: I don't think the short. So a lot of times
Speaker 1: say short we kill yourself, And a lot of promoters
Speaker 1: do that. They they want to get the quick money
Speaker 1: and and cut corners in New Orleans. If you're not
Speaker 1: ready to be a promoter, don't be one. It's as
Speaker 1: simple as that. The promoter is very hard. It's hard,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. If you got ready for it,
Speaker 1: don't do That's why I never did it myself around
Speaker 1: the country as they popular and they got cloud in
Speaker 1: the city that they could just promote a party and
Speaker 1: then the crazy ship is your homies is not enough
Speaker 1: because you think you're gonna write your homies and your
Speaker 1: home your funny ship when the promote this trying to
Speaker 1: be bigger than the artists on the flyer. Why are
Speaker 1: you putting yourself big on the flyer? Why are you
Speaker 1: making yourself like a real promoter? I said this on
Speaker 1: the EBO show. The real Promotera does real business. He
Speaker 1: puts his name small on there. He's a production and
Speaker 1: he makes the flyer the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Now it's about you and everybody else is but litterally
Speaker 1: you what do you try to do? You want to
Speaker 1: be a star. You're not talented, and this is where
Speaker 1: your this is how you get your attention. Like, that's
Speaker 1: not that's not the way that it's I don't joine
Speaker 1: with Lee. He wants Mr Lee's OFFICI know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm saying like, you have certain promoters
Speaker 1: that really want to do the business, and they have
Speaker 1: certain promoters that want to be in it for the
Speaker 1: wrong reasons, just like you have entertainments that would it
Speaker 1: be in it for the wrong reasons. They want to
Speaker 1: be with the bitches. They want to be cute. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say bitches women. I don't really call up
Speaker 1: with provisions, but they they want to be with the
Speaker 1: cute ship they see, but they don't see the hard
Speaker 1: work that goes into it. And that's where you test
Speaker 1: who's who. That's when you see who's who. If they
Speaker 1: willing to sustain, if they able to sustain what they've
Speaker 1: been doing for a certain long time, certain boy the time,
Speaker 1: and be comfortable with it and be willing to deal
Speaker 1: with the downfalls as well as the ups. You know,
Speaker 1: it's this business is a cutthrow business. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are shitty at this business. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying that. You know, that's why I don't ask somebody
Speaker 1: for nothing. Listen to my album. I could have asked
Speaker 1: anybody to be on my album. I could have asked
Speaker 1: any man. You know, they would have heard a quarter
Speaker 1: of my album and say yeah, kid, hell yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's one of the very first things is when they
Speaker 1: see DJ DJ and then kicking pre but DJ, they
Speaker 1: always think it's gonna be features, it's gonna be it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a future thing, compilation. This is serious. This
Speaker 1: is serious, and it makes rappers that have been during
Speaker 1: this for long years say, yeah, this is like a
Speaker 1: kid serious. Stop it's not no joke. To stop, no
Speaker 1: playing that. I'm not my pizza crazy. The bars is crazy.
Speaker 1: Everything is crazy. I asked no help. I asked for
Speaker 1: my daughter la vela RV artist, and Mr y Mr
Speaker 1: lexta reggae artists to bild it. And that's it, and
Speaker 1: I see joy. I'm pretty good. All right, that's been killing.
Speaker 1: So we've conquered it all we've done. We've conquered death, comedy, jam,
Speaker 1: We've done you know, movies, TV shows, we've you know, scored,
Speaker 1: worked with with Donna, jay Z, jay Z met everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: what the fund could be next for you? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: always trying to create opportunities for other people. So I
Speaker 1: did this album hopefully. You know, first of all, we
Speaker 1: say this, I don't have no machine behind me. I'm
Speaker 1: putting I'm independent. I put it out myself. I'm depending
Speaker 1: on the music being as good enough to carry. We're
Speaker 1: doing what we do to make it happen. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, and that's the artists, to be honest.
Speaker 1: So it's this this thing I just want to I
Speaker 1: just felt like doing. But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: have other people that I'm working with and trying to
Speaker 1: uh create opportunities for them, and that's been that's always
Speaker 1: been my thing. So with that being said, Sucker Freed,
Speaker 1: the and the Real Estate, the new albums I got
Speaker 1: coming to new stuff. I'm always gonna keep moving to
Speaker 1: keep going. I don't know what I'm want to end
Speaker 1: up with later because I'm nowhere near done. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like some people being as been as
Speaker 1: ten years and they've done, I've been here thirty some
Speaker 1: years and moving and in my ear is still as
Speaker 1: sharp as it ever been. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can hear it in the Love album. So I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna keep doing what I'm doing and create in
Speaker 1: and and just keep creating opportunities and just doing things
Speaker 1: and making sure that that they know that I'm not
Speaker 1: just one thing. You know what I'm saying I'm not
Speaker 1: just one thing. I'm a trip with threat And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's what it's about being
Speaker 1: able to um, not that nobody stop you from just
Speaker 1: being what you want to be. You do what you
Speaker 1: want to do, you know, and UM, it's been fortunate
Speaker 1: for me. I got God in my life. I expect,
Speaker 1: I expect my faith, and I appreciate the spirit. And
Speaker 1: that's first that that's what brings everything to to home,
Speaker 1: because without that, none of this is possible. So that's
Speaker 1: why I look at first and then everything else. So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep it going. And what they next
Speaker 1: thing is who knows. I mean, right now I have
Speaker 1: the album out, so the movie is coming and all
Speaker 1: this other stuff, But right now, I just want people
Speaker 1: to hear this album. I want people to listen to
Speaker 1: it from the beginning to end the fielding and understand
Speaker 1: that it's not just a record that got two records
Speaker 1: on it. A lot of times we get caught up
Speaker 1: in we're gonna have our one two records, help us surprise,
Speaker 1: help us to carry us. Now, we got a body
Speaker 1: of work here. So love album. It's something that you'll
Speaker 1: should hear well really quick. What what would be your
Speaker 1: advice to someone just getting started in this industry in
Speaker 1: terms of longevity, because not everybody's gonna have the longety nobody,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's not many people can say they
Speaker 1: have the longevity you have. You gotta be you gotta
Speaker 1: be a leader, the leader. Don't be a follower. Don't
Speaker 1: be a trend a trendy dude, set the trend. Don't
Speaker 1: be for the time, be timeless. You know. And even
Speaker 1: when you when you've been in in a business as
Speaker 1: long as I have, you're gonna have some downtime too.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sometimes where things look like it's getting
Speaker 1: a little shaky. The testament is how you keep it going.
Speaker 1: It's the testament is how you bounce back and keep moving.
Speaker 1: You gotta keep in mind. My influence made DJ's talking
Speaker 1: to Mike. My influence made DJ's play records quick look
Speaker 1: a certain way. As to that you're just looking like
Speaker 1: somebody behind, somebody looking at homely, now you look like
Speaker 1: a star kicking pre did that? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Let's not let's not get it twisted in no kind
Speaker 1: of way. People would do things and make it started
Speaker 1: to make you think it started with them, right, I'm
Speaker 1: not here to sit there putting your face what I
Speaker 1: did and all that. I'm here to show you what
Speaker 1: the real is. But at the same time, with the
Speaker 1: DJ business have been the way it been, had I
Speaker 1: not done what I did, you got a question that
Speaker 1: would there be a chalid would there be a clue?
Speaker 1: Would there be these different people that done what they
Speaker 1: did after the fact. Had I not done what I
Speaker 1: did with the bit with the business, you know, shout
Speaker 1: to all of them. They all did great. But it
Speaker 1: started with me saying, let me sit on that street
Speaker 1: corner and sell these mixed tapes, no matter how anybody
Speaker 1: look at me, no matter how anybody for I had
Speaker 1: girls driving by and cars fly, chicks laughing at me
Speaker 1: because I'm sitting on the street corner some of the
Speaker 1: tapes like I'm so listening. I put fourteen gold chains
Speaker 1: on my neck just to look like I'm doing good
Speaker 1: straight up, because you're doing good, but they don't think
Speaker 1: you're doing You gotta actually show you doing. I gotta
Speaker 1: show I'm gonna good, so I throw the four cheene James,
Speaker 1: I sit a certain with you know, and I'm thir
Speaker 1: old Son dudes ain't gonna try me, like you know,
Speaker 1: and they all know how to play. So that was
Speaker 1: another thing. But more than that, you know, chick see
Speaker 1: see that, it was like it was like a game.
Speaker 1: Like it was funny. All right, y'all gonna laughed. Now,
Speaker 1: watch what happened That following year. I was on television.
Speaker 1: That following you had an album. That following year I
Speaker 1: was on the radio. Everything was bad because I took
Speaker 1: my pride and swallowed it and said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not too big to sit on the street corner
Speaker 1: and trying to keep it pop. Well, a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes and think they're too big to do certain things,
Speaker 1: and Nabby, I'll do it this way and it's gonna
Speaker 1: made me move. And that's what made me do every day.
Speaker 1: From there, I went to death comedy jam, comedians that
Speaker 1: nobody knew. We took those comedians. I went back to
Speaker 1: the beginning to those comedians. We made them big. Bernie
Speaker 1: mac all these dudes got became big. Game of platform
Speaker 1: came back to the Internet. I was sitting on the Internet,
Speaker 1: playing on Peple Scope. I had thirty people on there,
Speaker 1: you looking at me saying, you know this legend got
Speaker 1: thirty people on this and it fell off. B No,
Speaker 1: my mind set was I'm gonna go back to the
Speaker 1: mixtape sitting on the street corner when nobody knew me,
Speaker 1: and then make it grow. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that's how I went because I'm not scared to
Speaker 1: go back to the beginning. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And that's how you stayed not it's scared to build again,
Speaker 1: to start over, you know what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 1: how you stay relevant when you don't do the same
Speaker 1: thing all the time, you were able to do other things.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm doing this album, producing it right in
Speaker 1: it come on as good as it is. Like, we
Speaker 1: can't front on it. You can say whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: care how old you are, young you are. You cannot
Speaker 1: say that love album is not Hessen. There's no way
Speaker 1: you can't say the album is hot. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, when you listen to you know,
Speaker 1: I stay in it. So that's what it's about, man,
Speaker 1: Just so taking care of your customers and just loving
Speaker 1: what you do. Man, I feel like that's figure sex.
Speaker 1: The motherfucker feelings that the Holy molycame only you got
Speaker 1: anything else, let's go, man. But like this is let
Speaker 1: me pue your champagne glass up though, come on, man, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: all of us brothers, it's the last. I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is a question. It might be more of
Speaker 1: a statement. Kicking pre tapes and I know I've said
Speaker 1: this to you maybe off the record, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: kind of corny. Should have said this to you on
Speaker 1: the record. At one point I used to wake up
Speaker 1: and get a kicking pre tap as if that was
Speaker 1: me getting fly. Somebody said that to me like that
Speaker 1: was a part of my outfit right, and did not
Speaker 1: have a kicking pre take to go with it. I
Speaker 1: know this just makes sense to nobody as young know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I had to have by a
Speaker 1: number seventeen to be like yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a tape to go with it, like you were
Speaker 1: kind of like because it's like like and we didn't
Speaker 1: have cars back there, so like I said earlier, we
Speaker 1: would do O J's, the National Calves, the Experienced Calves
Speaker 1: and Queen's Bridge, and what we would do is we
Speaker 1: would get in and we fly. But you gotta have
Speaker 1: fire your seventeen. You got a certain tape to make
Speaker 1: you feel the same way. And and and my earliest,
Speaker 1: beautifulest memory of going up towns has always been kicking
Speaker 1: pre tapes. And I just want you to know, like,
Speaker 1: if you listen to the record I did with jay Z,
Speaker 1: that the one I want to grant me for us
Speaker 1: like that, right, if you listen to it, if you listen,
Speaker 1: but if you listen, like if you're listen to this
Speaker 1: like that, that's what I was doing mix tape ship
Speaker 1: on that on the record. Put your hands up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what saying? This kid could bringing jay Z.
Speaker 1: It's it's it was the same. It was a mixtape
Speaker 1: party field. That's what I was on at the time.
Speaker 1: But that record wasn't supposed to be in that beat.
Speaker 1: When I did the record with Jay it was a
Speaker 1: different beat. It was something different. And were walking past
Speaker 1: he was walking past the studio. If the luke that
Speaker 1: I had that we did. I had that record for
Speaker 1: like five years point in New Orleans, but I never
Speaker 1: could get it the loop straight in the in the machine.
Speaker 1: So I had a loop on the tape just to
Speaker 1: listen to it. He was walking past the stick the studio.
Speaker 1: He heard me playing it in the studio. He said, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's that I said with something that I just had looke.
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, we need to do that. And
Speaker 1: that's five years I had this record. I couldn't get
Speaker 1: it fixed in five minutes after he said, I had
Speaker 1: to get finished right And yeah, I want to say
Speaker 1: something real quick. And I'm gonna say this reiterating the
Speaker 1: last time you were here, but in case someone didn't
Speaker 1: watch the episode, in case you don't remember, I've always
Speaker 1: said that your your career inspired me. Your tapes would
Speaker 1: inspired me to make mix tapes. I made my chops
Speaker 1: making mix tapes. If I didn't make mix tapes, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here right now. And you on Deaf Comedy
Speaker 1: Jam inspired the funk out of me to the point
Speaker 1: where Deaf Comedy Jam came to Miami at James L.
Speaker 1: Knight Center. Did everybody after the show, the comedians and
Speaker 1: Kick Capri stood out Fay to meet I stood in
Speaker 1: lying to meet Kick Caprit. So I want to thank you, brother,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you that I know it's not
Speaker 1: just me. You inspire so many motherfucking people out there.
Speaker 1: Thank you to appreciate you. Almost cab money and gas
Speaker 1: money I spent on your Okay, this is it, man,
Speaker 1: good man, Thank you so much, man for being who
Speaker 1: you are. Man. This is your platform always so I
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