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Speaker 2: Joining us now is presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswami, fresh off

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Speaker 2: of his debate appearance in Miami. Viveke, we wanted to

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Speaker 2: get started with something that's been dominating the news cycle.

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Speaker 2: There was a moment there between you and presidential candidate

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley. You called out her daughter using TikTok despite

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Speaker 2: her criticizing you. There led to a moment where she

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Speaker 2: called you scum. The moderators actually didn't give you a

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Speaker 2: chance to respond. We're going to play that and we're

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Speaker 2: going to give you the a chance to respond. Let's

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Speaker 2: take a listen and we'll get your reaction.

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Speaker 4: Well, I want to laugh at why Nicki Haley didn't

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Speaker 4: answer your question, which is about looking at families in

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Speaker 4: the eye. In the last debate, she made fun of

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Speaker 4: me for actually joining TikTok while her own daughter was

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Speaker 4: actually using the app for a long time.

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Speaker 3: So you might want to take care of your family first.

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Speaker 4: The next generation of Americans are using it, and that's

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Speaker 4: actually the point.

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Speaker 3: You have her supporters.

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Speaker 5: You're crapping her up. That's fine, here's the truth. You're

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Speaker 5: an easy answer.

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Speaker 3: So what was your reaction to that moment?

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Speaker 2: Vi vague into the kind of a broader ideological disagreement

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Speaker 2: that erupted between the two of you all throughout last night.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think that there's the ideological disagreement, which I

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Speaker 6: think is more important. There's a personal dimension to this,

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Speaker 6: at least to her. She's used four letter words to

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Speaker 6: name call me in each of the last two debates.

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Speaker 6: And you know what, for a Republican party that is

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Speaker 6: for a long time talked about Hunter, Biden or otherwise.

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Speaker 5: I think it's fair game for us.

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Speaker 6: To talk about the issues of anybody running for US president.

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Speaker 6: In this case, my criticism wasn't of her family or

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Speaker 6: her daughter, though. It was a criticism of nicky out

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Speaker 6: of touch as a generation to say, this is where

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Speaker 6: young people are, and her utter obliviousness or lack of

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Speaker 6: awareness of it was astounding to say that she's going

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Speaker 6: to be sanctimonious lecturing families across this country about TikTok.

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Speaker 5: It would be a gaping.

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Speaker 6: Black hole not to observe that, even in your own community,

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Speaker 6: in your own family, like so many young people across

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Speaker 6: this country, being on TikTok is not a sin, but

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Speaker 6: it's worth calling that out. And that's a symptom of

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Speaker 6: a deeper ideological disagreement. You're right that I do have

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Speaker 6: with her. I'm the only free speech absolutist on that stage.

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Speaker 6: People like Nikki Haley Rona Santus as well advocate for

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Speaker 6: censorship of views that they disagree with. If they disagree

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Speaker 6: with the platform they think the right answers for Republicans

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Speaker 6: to virtue signal not show up on that platform. I

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Speaker 6: view things differently, and I think that this is a

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Speaker 6: symptom of a deeper generational divide in the GOP. Same

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Speaker 6: thing with respect to going to foreign wars that don't

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Speaker 6: advance the American interest. Nikki Haley is on the other

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Speaker 6: side of that generational divide, and the irony is that

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Speaker 5: Trump, she talks the need for generational change.

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Speaker 6: The way I see it is that she's on the

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Speaker 6: wrong side of the generational change that the Republican Party

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Speaker 6: actually needs. She might have been an appropriate candidate back

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Speaker 6: in two thousand and two or two thousand and four,

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Speaker 6: not today. Out with the Nikki Halees of the past

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Speaker 6: and onto the future.

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Speaker 3: I want to pick up on that about the censorship.

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Speaker 2: We really want to give you a chance to actually

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Speaker 2: elucidate some of your thoughts, genuinely very standing out in

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Speaker 2: terms of the rest of the stage. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: had Chris Christie and others saying, you know, this crosses

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Speaker 2: the line from free speech and the hate speech you

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Speaker 2: mentioned Governor Ron de Santis there banning the students for

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Speaker 2: Palestine moment, Why do you think it's important to speak

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Speaker 2: up on this issue even though you ideologically believe that

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Speaker 2: some of the statements made have been abhorrent.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I definitely believe that many of those statements are abhorrent.

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Speaker 6: And my first message to the rest of the GOP

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Speaker 6: out the hypocrisies of BLM or otherwise they were chanting

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Speaker 5: Now the chanting death Israel. It's wrong then, it's wrong now.

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Speaker 6: But it is interesting where the people who are on

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Speaker 6: or four years ago. The deeper point is this, though,

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Speaker 6: We're a country where all opinions get to be expressed,

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Speaker 5: That's what makes America itself.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the thing that makes America the United States

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Speaker 6: is our First Amendment that says that all opinions go,

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Speaker 6: no matter how heinous. So we're not going to fix

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Speaker 6: anti Semitism by telling people they can't express those opinions.

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Speaker 6: I worry we would make the problem worse, actually creating

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Speaker 5: Young people are lost.

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Speaker 6: We need to lead them with actual leadership through example,

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Speaker 6: not through censorship. And the American way is you know what,

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Speaker 6: We're the country that said the Nazis could march in Skokie.

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Speaker 5: That's the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: That's different than European countries, it's different than other countries.

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Speaker 5: Around the world. That's what makes America great.

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Speaker 6: Though, And you mark my words for a conservative audience

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Speaker 6: to really make the point if you, then, few years

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Speaker 6: Santis or Nikki Haley and sensor views you don't disagree with.

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Speaker 6: What do you think the other side is going to

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Speaker 6: be doing? When it comes to somebody who questions the

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Speaker 6: side effects of vaccines, you'll be able to bioterrorist. Somebody

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Speaker 6: who says jasics peaceful protesters should be released from prison,

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Speaker 6: where you're an insurrectionist terrorist. Somebody who says that you're

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Speaker 6: a concerned parent showing up at a school board meeting,

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Speaker 6: We've already seen it labeled domestic terrorists. So I don't

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Speaker 6: think that censorship should be a partisan issue. The free

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Speaker 6: speech crusade that conservatives have been on, we undermine our

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Speaker 6: you agree with the underlying views. And so are those

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Speaker 6: statements of college campus students and otherwise or students on

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Speaker 5: In many cases, yes, they are.

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Speaker 6: They're lost, and they're clueless about the Israel Hamas conflict.

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Speaker 6: They don't have the first idea about it. But the

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Speaker 6: That's anti American and I think it's unconstitutional when the

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Speaker 6: likes of Ronda Says That are even calling for using

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Speaker 1: Vivig, I want to say, obviously, you and I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of differences. I've really appreciated your consistency that

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Speaker 1: on this issue in particular, and I think it's been

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Speaker 1: you said the statements of some college students are heinous,

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Speaker 1: You've said they're abhorrent. Do you think that it's anti

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Speaker 1: anti Semitics to criticize Zionism? Do you think it's anti

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Speaker 6: So I think that we have to be very careful,

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Speaker 6: and I'm not one of these people that just slop

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Speaker 6: willy throws around terms. We have enough anti Semitism that

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Speaker 6: actually exists in the world that we don't need to

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Speaker 6: manufacture more of it. I think more healthy debate on

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Speaker 6: the merriage is good Frankly, look at talk to your

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Speaker 6: friends in Israel as I have. Many of them are

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Speaker 6: critical of the Israeli government. Many of them are appropriately

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Speaker 5: So here's my view.

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Speaker 6: Israel has a right and responsibility to defend itself, and

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Speaker 6: I think it's wrong. Forget the individual labels that you

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Speaker 6: medieval and targeted civilians drawing any kind of force, false equivalents,

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Speaker 5: That's dent wrong.

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Speaker 6: So our role is the US, I think should be

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Speaker 6: saying that Israel absolutely has the right and responsibility to

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Speaker 6: defend itself, that was the founding vision of Israel. That's

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Speaker 6: That's what I think George Washington would have said if

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Speaker 5: Yeah. So, just to want to answer your question a

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Speaker 6: I'll talk about you know, you hear this discussion now

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Speaker 6: coming about Palestinian genocide, right, and I think that's let's

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Speaker 6: to the facts. I find that laughable because genocide refers

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Speaker 5: Are blacks of the US population.

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Speaker 6: And probably the place on Earth where Palestinians live the

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Speaker 5: Citizens is in Israel.

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Speaker 6: So when the facts alone speak for themselves, that yes,

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Speaker 6: a lot of these anti Israeli used on college campuses

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Speaker 5: But we have to do it.

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Speaker 6: If I may say this myself, the way I'm approaching

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Speaker 6: this is win on the facts, win on the arguments,

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Speaker 6: don't silence the expression of the views.

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Speaker 1: So, Vivik, I'm sure you know there are international legal

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Speaker 1: scholars who say what Israel's doing right now is a

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Speaker 1: textbook case of genocide. But I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: a different question, though, Do you believe that Israel is

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Speaker 1: following the Geneva Conventions in there? I don't think any

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Speaker 1: very few people will dispute they have a right to

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Speaker 1: defend themselves. But do you think they are and do

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Speaker 1: you think they should be following the Geneva Conventions and

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Speaker 1: international rules of war as they are quote unquote defending themselves.

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Speaker 6: I do think the nations should follow the rules of

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Speaker 6: international war. I have not seen evidence that they're not

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Speaker 6: following the rules.

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Speaker 1: Let me offer let me offer some evidence. So one

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Speaker 1: of the Geneva Conventions very clearly prohibits collective punishment. Right now,

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Speaker 1: you have all of Gaza, all two point two million

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Speaker 1: barring you know, water, food, fuel, et cetera, medical supplies

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Speaker 1: does not not amount to the violation of Geneva conventions.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: Those are broad standards, broad they define and Christal, I'm

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Speaker 6: And this is obviously it's fair to allow another country,

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Speaker 5: I'm an Antieter.

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Speaker 5: So I viewed I said on the stage.

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Speaker 6: Let the IDF get its own job done. And that's

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Speaker 5: We're not going.

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Speaker 6: To be interventionist, but that means in a couple of

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's the job of international bodies to look after

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Speaker 2: Well to get into that, Thovi bak As you said,

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Speaker 2: And then secondary it has Bulah enters the war against Israel?

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Speaker 6: This is against a broader backdrop saga of my view

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Speaker 5: Back ten times harder.

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Speaker 6: Got to be careful about the rules of proxy warfare

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Speaker 5: Well, on that theory.

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Speaker 5: And I believe that staying out.

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Speaker 3: To do it so Vivak.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the reality is that you know, the bombs

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Speaker 6: That extremism exists, whether or not we're breeding it. I

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Speaker 6: I don't mean to be repetitive here. Let Israel defend itself,

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Speaker 5: We haven't done that until this week.

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Speaker 6: My own campaign is going to be the one that's

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Speaker 6: Nikki Haley hasn't faced the scrutiny. I'm going to just

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Speaker 1: All right, I got I got a one last one

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Speaker 1: for you. You made a quip about Dick Cheney and

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Speaker 1: three inch heels last night. Are you a Ron De

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Speaker 1: Santis heel truther?

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Speaker 3: Yes or no?

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Speaker 5: I said, there's two of them on stage. That's what

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Speaker 5: I said.

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, how tall are you to bank?

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Speaker 5: For the record, I'm just short of six.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, just short of six. There we go.

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Speaker 2: So he's right in line with the with the average.

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Speaker 2: All Right, we appreciate you joining us, sir, Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much.

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Speaker 5: Appreciate it.