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Speaker 1: Welcome by your host Friday from Man by God Frob
Speaker 1: Say Francis, practice stand ball ladies and tell them in
Speaker 1: your BF and with that we willcome you inside of
Speaker 1: studio at thirty four. This is the BFFs. Here's Frank Snaffle.
Speaker 1: I am Greg Sousman. We're back with you here read
Speaker 1: having all of wild Card. We get some crazy DFS
Speaker 1: story as well. We had a lot of packing in
Speaker 1: an hour. But most importantly, Frank, I just sleep. I
Speaker 1: slept very well last night. Uh sober no carp January
Speaker 1: is going here? Well you already look slimmer. I can't
Speaker 1: tell if you're being honest. Am absolutely I lost four
Speaker 1: pounds last week did I not there you go out
Speaker 1: of nowhere? Did I not? New Year? New Frank? You
Speaker 1: got here? We go times last week? Boom, there you go.
Speaker 1: That's great. So I slept well last night, slept well
Speaker 1: all weekend, no hangovers, great news starts of the year.
Speaker 1: How did you sleep last night? I slept really really well.
Speaker 1: I slept really well the night before. That's because I
Speaker 1: was very drunk um, but I was eating uh eight
Speaker 1: very poorly. This weekend. I'd say we swapped. We basically swapped.
Speaker 1: You know. The thing is, it's football, it's a playoffs.
Speaker 1: You just sit on the couch and just nash all day.
Speaker 1: I did that. Would you eat carrots? I I ate chips.
Speaker 1: It had some buffalo chicken dip. We had some like um,
Speaker 1: hand rolled beef pockets, basically, had some mots sneaks pizza,
Speaker 1: had some steak strips. It's fine, it's great. Some bacon
Speaker 1: basically just a bunch of meat. Uh your carnivore. These
Speaker 1: U these little I don't know, they're like these little
Speaker 1: slim gyms, right. They sell them like Polish delis in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood. I think they're called cabanos. If we have
Speaker 1: any Polish listeners, viewers out there. So I was eating
Speaker 1: those or basically many slim jims. Some cheese, that's it.
Speaker 1: No bread, no pasta. I don't know. You're sitting on
Speaker 1: the couch watching. You couldn't even ney wings, couldn't. It's
Speaker 1: a good test of willpower, you know. I couldn't do it. Man,
Speaker 1: How did you get to work today? By the way
Speaker 1: you walk? You walk every day pretty much. So people
Speaker 1: have heard my rant about living in New York before,
Speaker 1: so I will spare you of that. But basically today
Speaker 1: was the first day where everybody was back in New
Speaker 1: York City. He calls. Last week we had New Years,
Speaker 1: people are still away. It was terrible, it was. It
Speaker 1: was so bad. I had to wait for two l
Speaker 1: trains to go by. They were so packed from my
Speaker 1: station you couldn't even squish it. No, there was no
Speaker 1: squishing whatsoever. Packed to the brim, a bunch of people
Speaker 1: and Greg, you know me. You don't like people, not
Speaker 1: a people person, don't like people, know, So morning didn't
Speaker 1: get off to a great story. You wouldn't know. I
Speaker 1: came in. I was a little more surprised than usual,
Speaker 1: which wasn't It wasn't Crouch, No your grature Friday you
Speaker 1: were today? Sorry, okay, but that was my morning. It
Speaker 1: was very frustrated. So if you again, if you commuted
Speaker 1: to anywhere in New York via trains, not in New York,
Speaker 1: he probably sucked. If you committed anywhere today yet its
Speaker 1: first full week back. God bless, God bless indeed a
Speaker 1: great weekende weekend. Yeah, it was a wild weekend, Greg. Anyways,
Speaker 1: um it was. It was a great weekend of football overall.
Speaker 1: I thought things don't necessarily go the way I wanted
Speaker 1: them to do do. That's okay, you know it doesn't always work.
Speaker 1: Now you have a playoff league that you are basically
Speaker 1: out of already. So Greg, you know, instead of donating
Speaker 1: your money to this league every yrnth, why don't you
Speaker 1: just give me money? Why would I give it to you?
Speaker 1: He didn't earn it first? Of course? Of course I've
Speaker 1: earned it, Greg, person that we to tell people who
Speaker 1: you know, watch the show, listen to the show, that
Speaker 1: I've earned the money. The person that wins the league
Speaker 1: is gonna win the money. Yeah, but you don't ever
Speaker 1: win the league. You already out of it after wild
Speaker 1: card weekend. Well, I don't want you just give that
Speaker 1: money to me, I was the favorite going into the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You use it to buy a bunch of
Speaker 1: meats and cheeses. Bread can't come on my apartment. I
Speaker 1: had so much cheese in there right now. You love it?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I like cheese? I don't love
Speaker 1: cheese like. You're a big cheese. You're a fresh MUDs guy.
Speaker 1: You dive into the fresh MUDs. I do have a
Speaker 1: salad I haven't eaten yet today because mazzro and I
Speaker 1: add my salad. You could have eaten there. There is
Speaker 1: no bread in there. Greg, I barely want to eat
Speaker 1: my own salad. I will not be eating your salad
Speaker 1: because of you, Frank, because of this diet. Like I
Speaker 1: opened the doughnuts that I brought for everybody today and
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't, I can't eat this. Didn't
Speaker 1: do it cook. The most painful part is coming into
Speaker 1: here to work, to be honest, because on Friday, someone
Speaker 1: I think it was Alex Paisano downstairs eating a sausage,
Speaker 1: egg and cheese on a bagel right next to today
Speaker 1: he had don't don't do that out. So today Alex
Speaker 1: brought and pizza fin a pizza when Steve a pizza.
Speaker 1: People are donuts. It's not a problem. What do you
Speaker 1: think Alex and Sabara? Oh yeah, I mean Alex we
Speaker 1: have to have a talk. Where where is he from?
Speaker 1: Where's Alex from Long Island? Greg, I may say so myself.
Speaker 1: I say, you did say, oh, that looks like a
Speaker 1: nice slice immediately after opening. It surprised me how nice
Speaker 1: it looked. Yes, you don't eat Sabarrow if you're from
Speaker 1: New York, you just don't do that. That's Michael Scott
Speaker 1: from the office right right, Well where are they filmed? In?
Speaker 1: Takes places? It takes place in scran p A. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's their idea of New York pizzas. So I don't know. Actually,
Speaker 1: that's actually why I got Sabarrow. Me and Brian were
Speaker 1: talking about that exact quote right before I went and
Speaker 1: got food. I was like, oh, want me to tell you?
Speaker 1: Not a good enough reason? I tell you what? Please?
Speaker 1: Please do? All right, Well, maybe we'll go get pizza.
Speaker 1: You live in New York. Save the pizza for February, please, Greig,
Speaker 1: please my favorite day. I'm gonna gain all of my
Speaker 1: weight back on February first, Super Bowl weekn that's Super
Speaker 1: Bowl weekend. It's crazy. He's going to be Frank Walks
Speaker 1: in the February first show. He's got his bacon, egg
Speaker 1: and cheese. He goes has popcorn again. It's it's great.
Speaker 1: It's a great Friday again, all the all the weight
Speaker 1: back that I lost in the months. And no, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm some kind of elitist because I'm on
Speaker 1: a diet either, because I don't like when people do that.
Speaker 1: But this is more of again, It's more will challenge
Speaker 1: for you. It's a cleanse, you know. I look, I
Speaker 1: do uh. I don't treat my body right in the
Speaker 1: months of November and December January. This king could do
Speaker 1: the same thing. She didn't do it last year. Actually
Speaker 1: she was mad at me for doing it last year.
Speaker 1: But she's she's joined the party. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you want to call this party. She's she's joined it.
Speaker 1: Whatever this is, she's she's joined the fray. M's a
Speaker 1: good beer on Saturday night. You definitely don't drink good beer.
Speaker 1: Greg great Treehouse. I was drinking. It's a fantastic Did
Speaker 1: drink wine, You're like wine? No, I don't drink wine.
Speaker 1: I don't drink anything in the month. Nothing no wine,
Speaker 1: no beer, nothing all right. Anyway, So it was a
Speaker 1: lot of really good football this weekend, and there really was.
Speaker 1: Though it was it was an awesome weekend in this
Speaker 1: DFS controversy. Also because like I had an opinion of
Speaker 1: it last night. You came in, You're like, this is
Speaker 1: going crazy. I knew, and obviously we're gonna on the
Speaker 1: opposite sides of that. And I I still think I'm
Speaker 1: on the opposite side, but like I'm starting to see
Speaker 1: the light. No, I more understand like why you were
Speaker 1: are annoyed or could be annoyed. I'm a big rule follower.
Speaker 1: You gotta follow exactly and I'm not. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: I gonna give you an example, all right. So when
Speaker 1: I said, then I will give you an example. Sure,
Speaker 1: When I was at the airport coming home from Florida.
Speaker 1: Coming home from Florida, Uh, you know how like they
Speaker 1: have a group one, two, three, four, and five right
Speaker 1: where you air the plane, right, So I was in
Speaker 1: group four, but they were rushing people on the plane.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get on because it was and they
Speaker 1: we had to hit our time whatever. They're runn a
Speaker 1: little bit late. The announced Group one the line is
Speaker 1: like to the next gate. That's how long it is.
Speaker 1: So that was they were all on the Group two line.
Speaker 1: That was like two, three, four five. I was Group four.
Speaker 1: There was nobody on the Group one line. So I
Speaker 1: walked on the line and walked on the plane, and
Speaker 1: duty obviously followed me, very dishonorable. And I told my sister.
Speaker 1: I told my sister's fiance, who's just like you kidding,
Speaker 1: You can't do that. I mean, he's the lion. I
Speaker 1: just walked on. There's the same guy who snuck us
Speaker 1: into great seats in Yankee Stadium. And that's that's mad.
Speaker 1: That's that's good example. We come back, we'll here from Frank.
Speaker 1: We're gonna going with this DFS stuff a little bit
Speaker 1: later on, and I want to get into the games.
Speaker 1: We'll do all of that when we come back. I
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Speaker 1: back here on the VFFS you heard, I'm not a
Speaker 1: rule follower. That's why I you know, I feel how
Speaker 1: I feel about uh, the loophole if you will in
Speaker 1: DFS freak, why are you a rule follower? Was the
Speaker 1: story you had for us? Oh, it's not necessarily a
Speaker 1: story or anything. It's just really an example. Greg. If
Speaker 1: you went out in the middle of the street right
Speaker 1: now and urinated, what do you think would happen to you?
Speaker 1: Most likely nothing, But you should be you should be
Speaker 1: given a citation of some sort. Yes, you know, you
Speaker 1: would be reprimanded in some kind of way. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: How is this any different? There's a rule, the rule,
Speaker 1: it's a law within draft. Different rules are different. There's
Speaker 1: different rules. Urinating on the sidewalks not the same as
Speaker 1: skiving a line and find a loophole. We thought if
Speaker 1: there's a lot, we don't have a lot. But this
Speaker 1: whole DFS thing is is more than just a loophole.
Speaker 1: Do you want do you want to get into it
Speaker 1: now or do you want to wait? You want to
Speaker 1: all right, we'll do it now. Okay. So here's what happened.
Speaker 1: So when you play in the Millionaire Maker, the big
Speaker 1: tournament every week in the NFL, you were only allowed
Speaker 1: to enter a hundred and fifty lineups in her player
Speaker 1: And that means I, as a player, can only enter
Speaker 1: in a maximum one fifty lineup. One not two hundred,
Speaker 1: not three hundred, one fifty. Now, Frank and I, if
Speaker 1: we were uh, we are friends, were best friends. But
Speaker 1: if we went on the mill technically speaking, technically speaking,
Speaker 1: if we went in on this we both participated in
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty line up in the Millimaker, we could
Speaker 1: not converse or set our lineups together. I would set
Speaker 1: my one fifty, you would say, year one fifty, because
Speaker 1: in the by laws we cannot do it together. Is
Speaker 1: that correct? That is correct? Now? Of course we That's
Speaker 1: also a bad example though, But I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: that's That's how that's how I feel about it. Because
Speaker 1: we here at sports Grade, every site daily rodo dot
Speaker 1: com that helps millions of people make lineups, and we
Speaker 1: have a slack chat. They all discuss, right, yes, so
Speaker 1: they all not saying colue, but they discussed what they
Speaker 1: like or the optimizer spits out what they don't like
Speaker 1: and how they could get in on. Okay, So what
Speaker 1: happened last night is a woman that was on Bachelor
Speaker 1: in Paradise. She met her husband who's also on the Bachelor,
Speaker 1: and they met each other. They got married, they have kids,
Speaker 1: and he is a DFS guy. How was that season?
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't watch it, but Ji said,
Speaker 1: was all right? I asked her. I asked her about it.
Speaker 1: She was pumped because she I knew that you would
Speaker 1: have some kind of input on this, so I do.
Speaker 1: The reason why I was so excited about this and
Speaker 1: why I knew about this last night was because I
Speaker 1: lost an hour fandal conta this week. Frank. But let
Speaker 1: JUDI set the lineup and she's houcked. She was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, this is fun. Like like I wanted to
Speaker 1: put in DK Metcalf, I wanted to put in She
Speaker 1: definitely put in Russell Wilson. I know she has the
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for originally he's been Russell Wilson in no
Speaker 1: other Seahawks. Like listen, I been to Russell Wilson. You
Speaker 1: have another Seahawks it so I wanted Dk Metcalf. She
Speaker 1: didn't want. Oh gosh, that's that's that was the first mistake.
Speaker 1: I see the resemblance, though, what do you mean between
Speaker 1: you and Russell Wilson? Like why Judy married ten curly hair?
Speaker 1: For sure, I'm being honest. So she's said the line
Speaker 1: up and she's like, how much did that costs? Goes
Speaker 1: five dollars. She goes, we play again next week. You know,
Speaker 1: you could have played every week, but last week we
Speaker 1: I'm doing seventeen weeks. Could have got it in. She goes, oh,
Speaker 1: because it's it's our money. Now, It's not just me gambling,
Speaker 1: it's our money. So she was in. So when I
Speaker 1: told her that this woman from the Bachelor one this
Speaker 1: goes I would a million dollars. Technically, yes, now it
Speaker 1: costs more than five dollars to enter that, but it's
Speaker 1: not like a crazy amount there was. I think it's
Speaker 1: twenty dollars for the million maker entry times Junie wants
Speaker 1: to enter, she would cost her twenty bucks to enter
Speaker 1: her one line up and have a chance to a
Speaker 1: million dollars theoretically, So I explained to her why that's
Speaker 1: really hard to do because you have all these pros
Speaker 1: with all their algorithms and whatnot, and it's really hard
Speaker 1: to win the million millionaire makers. Oh that's why. Then,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's really cool that this girl get it.
Speaker 1: You're right, it is really cool that she did because
Speaker 1: she's not a this is me last night, because she's
Speaker 1: not a pro. She's just seemingly, in my head, it
Speaker 1: was a girl that watch football putting the line up
Speaker 1: or two and it's better fifty bucks and whatever. And
Speaker 1: this was the original reaction on Twitter as well. Everyone
Speaker 1: was like, look see even a girl could win it,
Speaker 1: like you can. That's the frustrating bar you can get
Speaker 1: even it's the way to include It's a way to
Speaker 1: include everybody. You know, she could have been a football
Speaker 1: the fan that I am. It's not fair even a girl,
Speaker 1: but like, even non professional, that was the way to
Speaker 1: kind of include everyone. So that was awesome. She loved it,
Speaker 1: and that's how I went to sleep. When I woke up,
Speaker 1: Frank walked in. I woke up, came to work my stuff.
Speaker 1: Frank walks and he goes, hey, hear this person that
Speaker 1: was a millimaker last night. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is our conversation this morning, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's so cool. It was like growing the Bachelor. It's
Speaker 1: like yeah, but it's like not real. What do you
Speaker 1: what do you mean? And Frank explains to me what
Speaker 1: happened was the woman who was married to he contested
Speaker 1: on the Bachelor, or maybe he was the Bachelor. He's
Speaker 1: like a professional Daily Fantasy player. He had his one
Speaker 1: and fifty lineups. She had a hundred and fifty lineups.
Speaker 1: The lineups out of all three hundred, none were the same. Zero.
Speaker 1: He shows out of his hundred fifty line ups, he
Speaker 1: had fifty with one quarterback, fifty with another quarterback, fifty
Speaker 1: with another quarterback. Out of hers, she also had fifty
Speaker 1: with the quarterback, fifty with the quarterbacks with the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and none of the quarterbacks were the same. They had
Speaker 1: six different quarterbacks in their three hundred lineups. She had
Speaker 1: not had one complete set we're all Saturday quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: one complete set we're all Sunday quarterbacks. Is a logic.
Speaker 1: What was the reason behind that? I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: just okay, that's just how they separated. It's probably like
Speaker 1: some kind of DFS game theory. Okay, it's probably it's
Speaker 1: just how they separated. Okay, so they separate all these lineups,
Speaker 1: none match at all. She winds up winning and she
Speaker 1: I looked at her Twitter to see if she was publishing,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, talking to you about her lineups. She
Speaker 1: had one tweet after winning. She hadn't tweeted since like September,
Speaker 1: and it's just retweets, right, She's not very active on
Speaker 1: social media. And the one tweet she had after winning,
Speaker 1: and I actually said this to Judy last night, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't believe it. And I was literally
Speaker 1: telling Tanner I wanted DK Metcalf. He said no, and
Speaker 1: we put him in. And that was like the one
Speaker 1: tweet about it at the time last night. Now, unfortunately
Speaker 1: he in his hundred of the line ups he had
Speaker 1: like se DK Metcalf, which percent DK Metcalf. So why
Speaker 1: is he telling her not to do it? I don't
Speaker 1: really know. Now. The theory is the prevalent theory, DK
Speaker 1: Draftings say, we're looking into it. The prevalent theory is
Speaker 1: that they either a made their lineups together or be
Speaker 1: he used her user name to put in an extra
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty line ups. Now this is illegal
Speaker 1: according to the terms of service of Draft Kings, because
Speaker 1: you yourself are only entitled to one one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty entries as yourself in line up. You cannot make
Speaker 1: an extra user name. You cannot go in with someone
Speaker 1: that's in the by law as well, and you have
Speaker 1: to just do it fairly like like that. Now, my
Speaker 1: response to all of this was, well, her husband and wife.
Speaker 1: If I was sitting on the couch with my wife
Speaker 1: and she asked me advice about she has, she's going
Speaker 1: in her own three thousand dollars, because of course it's
Speaker 1: my three thousand dollars because we're married. If she's saying
Speaker 1: we're both seeing in the couch and making lineups, are
Speaker 1: we not allowed to talk about those lineups? And Frank's
Speaker 1: response was technically parcharnically speaking, no, she has her lineups,
Speaker 1: you have your lineups, and I go, sure, technically speaking, whatever,
Speaker 1: but we're married. You can't stop me from talking same
Speaker 1: with if I'm not married. This is my take on it.
Speaker 1: If Frank and I are sitting at this table and
Speaker 1: we're talking about our Draft Kings lineup and fandal we
Speaker 1: do it, I'm not allowed to do that. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the basis of all DFS content, right, Like are
Speaker 1: talking things out, they're trying to figure out who to use.
Speaker 1: The biggest difference, which is what I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: up to you, Greg, is that me and you both
Speaker 1: have prior knowledge. It is now. I don't know if
Speaker 1: she does or not, if she plays DFS every single week,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's something that they'll look into. Uh.
Speaker 1: And again, this is gonna be something that's hard to
Speaker 1: prove overall, like whether or not there's collusion involved. And
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's other people that do things like this.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm condoning it, obviously, I am against it.
Speaker 1: I think that you should follow the rules, but there's
Speaker 1: probably people who do this as well other people. But
Speaker 1: I would say the biggest difference is, Greg, I already
Speaker 1: have prior knowledge of what I was gonna do with
Speaker 1: these line ups anyway, and just me and you're talking
Speaker 1: it out. Yes, you might influence me one way or another.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the breakdown of all of
Speaker 1: these lineups, all three of these lineups, it just gets
Speaker 1: kind of fishy that a lot of them have overlapped
Speaker 1: with DK metcalf in both lineups and then all of
Speaker 1: one set of lineups, like all of his lineups have
Speaker 1: Saturday quarterbacks, and then all of her lineups have Sunday quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So it kind of I guess the point of that,
Speaker 1: the game theory part of that is to see, like
Speaker 1: if you gain an edge on day one versus Day two,
Speaker 1: something like that. But obviously it's against the rules, and
Speaker 1: I'm a big rule follower, so uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: against it. Obviously, I'm against anyone trying to cheat or
Speaker 1: gain an advantage. But are they the only people to
Speaker 1: ever do this? I'm sure there are. I am sure.
Speaker 1: I am sure that there are regular DFS experts that
Speaker 1: go in together on this, right, Like they're experts. They
Speaker 1: spend thousands of dollars a night on multiple sports, right,
Speaker 1: And let's just say say it's you and me, right,
Speaker 1: we're both experts in the industry. You gotta share my winning,
Speaker 1: is gonna share your winning. We are in on this together.
Speaker 1: We're gonna make lash together. It happens every night in DFS,
Speaker 1: you know it. I'll say it's legal, but it happens
Speaker 1: every night. But if she doesn't know anything about DFS
Speaker 1: at all, and he's just using this to make three lineups.
Speaker 1: That's not right. You give yourself more of an advantage. Yes,
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about this and getting into the games codex.
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Speaker 1: at that. We're giving out DFS advice, we're using an
Speaker 1: optimizer together, we're coming up with information that's illegal. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: because it's not like Daily Rodo is using one up
Speaker 1: and also using your one doing it collaboratively. Yes, but
Speaker 1: that's your You're using content from somebody else to influence yourself.
Speaker 1: It's not so technically she couldn't used the content of
Speaker 1: her husband's spreadsheets influence herself. Sure, and if and if
Speaker 1: it comes out that was the case, then it's perfectly no. No,
Speaker 1: you're right. You're not gonna be able to prove it.
Speaker 1: But based on uh and I'll tweet out this article
Speaker 1: as well. I know Jim posted it in the YouTube
Speaker 1: chat shout out to the Fantasy tas Jim Day. But
Speaker 1: based on that article, there are a bunch of people
Speaker 1: who have proven, based on the overlap of the players
Speaker 1: that they have and the fact that the only thing
Speaker 1: that really differentiated was their quarterbacks, that there is clear
Speaker 1: collusion involved here. But outside of that like, you're right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they're gonna argue it to the tea and say,
Speaker 1: you know what it sounds like to me? What is it?
Speaker 1: Sounds of losers. I also think that if it wasn't
Speaker 1: somebody even the Bachelor and just like me, are you
Speaker 1: doing it? For instance? Yeah, obviously adds to the publicity
Speaker 1: of Draft Kings tweeted it out and said, well, here's
Speaker 1: your rose, like great promotion for them. No, absolutely, it's awesome.
Speaker 1: Would we be talking about the Draft Kings millionmaker right
Speaker 1: now if it wasn't for this, You're absolutely right. So again,
Speaker 1: if they would have tweeted out like get on the
Speaker 1: Grid Greg and Frank, Greg from Sports Free wins a
Speaker 1: million dollars and even though it was really Greg and
Speaker 1: Frank that one a million dollars. No, it's talking about it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, Nobody cares. Let's talk after the show.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could collaborate right here a rule follower, you
Speaker 1: don't want to, all right, thanks for reminding me, No
Speaker 1: problem about it, all right? So the early game on Saturday,
Speaker 1: we'll go and order and get to it. The early
Speaker 1: game on Saturday, Buffalo and Houston. Uh. Not surprisingly, Buffalo
Speaker 1: gets out to a early lead sixteen nothing lead could
Speaker 1: be even more um on the kickoff, and I'll get
Speaker 1: to that in a moment. Ultimately, Shawn Watson put on
Speaker 1: his cape, Josh Allen puts on his went underwear because
Speaker 1: he pissed himself, and the Houston Texans survived in overtime,
Speaker 1: come back to win and advance. I look at this game. I'
Speaker 1: let me start with the kickoff. Play, kick off, the
Speaker 1: I guess it's kick off the second half. The Houston
Speaker 1: Texans receiving, the receiver catches the ball and it goes
Speaker 1: like this like letting everybody pass, which is the referee
Speaker 1: symbol that it plays over, doesn't kneel down, throws the
Speaker 1: ball back to Tony Currency, who's just like this his
Speaker 1: hands behind his back. Well, the Bills recover and technically
Speaker 1: it is a touchdown. Now, it was the referee, Tony
Speaker 1: Cornti that called the play. It's all his fault, so Currency,
Speaker 1: it's like kind of following the rules. Now, all these
Speaker 1: backup officials at the time run on the field and
Speaker 1: they're like, dude, come on, and you know that's what
Speaker 1: they said, right, dude, come on, you know what he
Speaker 1: was doing technically by the letter of the law that
Speaker 1: as they touched down by the Buffalo Bills. What do
Speaker 1: you think of it, Frank, your rule follower. If you
Speaker 1: rule followers, you gotta follow this is This is one
Speaker 1: of the nuances of the game, though, and we see
Speaker 1: this every single week, multiple time throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the game. Guys don't kneel down, They'll sometimes they let
Speaker 1: the ball just go over their heads, they'll catch it whatever.
Speaker 1: And he even made some signals himself, some hand signals
Speaker 1: that he wasn't taking the ball out of the end zone.
Speaker 1: His teammates knew the case as well. So I had
Speaker 1: no problem with that play being reversed and it not
Speaker 1: being a touchdown because we see that every single week
Speaker 1: and everybody who they spoke to on the broadcast to
Speaker 1: the same exact thing. So I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with that. And I feel like Tony Currenti, and this
Speaker 1: is something that Gabe talked about last week. He's like,
Speaker 1: oh great, my Bills have Tony Creni of all refs, Right,
Speaker 1: what is he doing there? Man? Just blow the play dead.
Speaker 1: I understand the rules rule, but we see that every
Speaker 1: single week. If that's the case, then okay, then you
Speaker 1: have to tighten this up every single week in the NFL,
Speaker 1: not just in the playoffs. But you can't have a
Speaker 1: play like that determine a touchdown in a playoff game.
Speaker 1: So I had no problem with that being reversed, and
Speaker 1: I agree with your comment. Sense should prevail in that
Speaker 1: instant in the first half, Bill Is that anything they wanted?
Speaker 1: With Houston the offense? How about the first drive? That
Speaker 1: was awesome? John Brown played to Josh Allen, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: running for you. It's over in the number, as we
Speaker 1: told him his first run, I think with Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: yesterday text. I texted frank this, He said, nice, it
Speaker 1: was not halfway service. Well because I took Cold Beasley
Speaker 1: props instead of Josh Allen props and I gave them
Speaker 1: all out on Saturday when I was here. And someday
Speaker 1: you tweeted up some DK metcalf stuf. I responded that.
Speaker 1: He did not respond back, but I responded that I
Speaker 1: thought I love it, Frankie all in, I liked your tweets.
Speaker 1: So that's basically the same as a response. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: you're all hit on the DK metcalf st Now the
Speaker 1: cat cals and I was on the over for Carson
Speaker 1: wentz We'll get to that a little bit later. Well,
Speaker 1: I was on the over rushing ars Carson Wentz Um.
Speaker 1: But so Buffalo really takes it in that first half.
Speaker 1: The first drive, Houston had nothing, and then the second
Speaker 1: half it almost felt like hanging around, hanging around, hanging around,
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills and Brian Dable do exactly what
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do. They took their foot off
Speaker 1: the gas and they played a little tight. Houston played loose,
Speaker 1: and Buffalo let them right back into the game, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly how they lost the game. And I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk about the conservative nature of them just early
Speaker 1: in this game as well. Um kind of contributed to
Speaker 1: them taking the foot off the pedal, right Like, they
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown early in this game, first drive of
Speaker 1: the game. They dominated the first half, and people were
Speaker 1: tweeting it out. They said, this game feels like it's
Speaker 1: only like it's twenty eight tip, like it's over already.
Speaker 1: You know, at the time, it's only like ten nothing,
Speaker 1: thirteen nothing. This is what happens in the playoffs. You
Speaker 1: cannot settle for field goals. You need to be more aggressive.
Speaker 1: Once you get into enemy territory, you have to try
Speaker 1: and score touchdowns because if you leave an opening for
Speaker 1: a team like the Texans. Granted the Bills have a
Speaker 1: great defense, they are the better defensive team in this game,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But if you leave an
Speaker 1: offense and a player like DeShawn Watson just that sliver
Speaker 1: of hope, that opportunity for them to climb back into
Speaker 1: this game, then you do deserve to lose. Greg something
Speaker 1: that I kept saying over the weekend, someone else smarter
Speaker 1: than me has probably said it at some point. If
Speaker 1: you play not to win the game, you deserve to lose,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what happened with the Buffalo Bills here.
Speaker 1: You need to be more aggressive in once you get
Speaker 1: into the inside the red zone, inside your opponents thirty forty,
Speaker 1: whatever it might be, you need to try and score
Speaker 1: touchdowns because if you don't, next thing, you know, oh
Speaker 1: it's a touchdown and it was a one score game.
Speaker 1: After that it was sixteen zip the Texan score touchdown
Speaker 1: scored two point conversion. Next thing, it's a one score game, right.
Speaker 1: You can't allow that opportunity. You just can't even leave
Speaker 1: that window open. When you're in the playoffs, you can't
Speaker 1: let your foot off the gaspital. That's exactly what happened
Speaker 1: here for the Buffalo Bills. And of course there were
Speaker 1: questionable things that happened late in this game. I don't
Speaker 1: know which one you want to start with, but like
Speaker 1: the blindside block thing to me was just that was aggious, man.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot more to get you before that.
Speaker 1: I thought Josh Allen had a really, really tough fourth
Speaker 1: quarter and over time he took two sacks that could
Speaker 1: have won the game. Oh, such bad sacks. And not
Speaker 1: only that, why is Frank Gore on the field. He
Speaker 1: loses the six yards just before he gets sacked twice.
Speaker 1: There it was when they could have kicked a field
Speaker 1: goal to win the game. It was win the game.
Speaker 1: It was remarkable because Devin Singletary had a long catch
Speaker 1: and run along run and he was winded. Don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong, but I was screaming at the TV again,
Speaker 1: how does look at the box score for this game?
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary thirteen carries for fifty eight yards four point
Speaker 1: five yards per carry, six receptions for seventy six yards
Speaker 1: twelve point seven yards per reception. You put Frank Gore
Speaker 1: in and they do this every single game. If you
Speaker 1: watch the Buffalo Bills. I was texting back and forth
Speaker 1: with Michael Florio, die hard Bills fan the entire game,
Speaker 1: because I was on the Bills money line in this game,
Speaker 1: and he and you watch the Bills in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of games, once they get inside the red zone
Speaker 1: of opponents, they put Frank Gore in the game because
Speaker 1: I guess he's a veteran that can hold onto the football.
Speaker 1: You don't have any worries about him potentially fumbling. Well,
Speaker 1: how about the potential about him losing six yards on
Speaker 1: first down? Second now, whatever it was for the Buffalo Bills. Here,
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary is running well, extremely efficient, and we can
Speaker 1: kind of bring this back to fantasy. I think he
Speaker 1: did himself some favors next year in terms of moving
Speaker 1: up the draft board. In this game. Why did Singletary
Speaker 1: ever come off the field for Frank Gore? He had
Speaker 1: thirteen carries, Frank gorehead eight. It makes no sense like
Speaker 1: this is I see the guys on Twitter DFS guys
Speaker 1: talk about galaxy brain thinking right, Davis Maddie, Galaxy Brain,
Speaker 1: don't overthink it. Man. You have a rookie who was
Speaker 1: running efficiently, don't go away from him. That was part of,
Speaker 1: you know, the eventual demise of the Bills in this game.
Speaker 1: But having Frank Gore on the field losing uh, losing
Speaker 1: yards on that play, the back to back sacks, I
Speaker 1: mean that was the beginning of the end for the Buffalo.
Speaker 1: The lateral to Dawson Knox. He didn't even see him
Speaker 1: before he lateral did what was he thinking so much time?
Speaker 1: This is the roller coaster that is Josh because he
Speaker 1: looked great in the first guy talent, he looked composed,
Speaker 1: He's got talent. But then once you saw that momentum
Speaker 1: start to shift a little b to Houston, Texas put
Speaker 1: points on the board. Once you saw that, Josh Allen
Speaker 1: starts to feel the pressure a little bit. He still
Speaker 1: had clean pockets, but he's throwing overthrowing people, throwing balls
Speaker 1: into the ground. You just started to see the momentum
Speaker 1: shift on the field, something that you can't really quantify,
Speaker 1: but overall, first start in his career in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: you started to see those nerves. In the second half
Speaker 1: for Josh Shaw, Watson avoids a massive sack to get
Speaker 1: the ball to Tyler Irvin, who essentially sealed the game
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. Is an awesome play by Shawn
Speaker 1: Watson avoiding the sack and that's what did it? Was
Speaker 1: it Tyler Irvan? Yeah? I want Jones great? Taiwan Jones
Speaker 1: used to be Tylervans because I remember, I was like,
Speaker 1: didn't that guy used to play running back for the
Speaker 1: Raiders and then play quarterback for the Raiders and he's
Speaker 1: been like five other teams. It was Taiwan Jones with
Speaker 1: a thirty four yards catching scampers. Did you wear thirty four?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what number he wears. Yeah, he's number
Speaker 1: thirty four. Taiwan was Tyler Irvan's numbers. See, I remember that,
Speaker 1: like I was there. Yeah. So there were so many
Speaker 1: other things that went wrong in this game. Um, the
Speaker 1: lateral by Josh was completely ridiculous. The blind side block
Speaker 1: to call I understand, Look, if you completely knock someone's
Speaker 1: block off here when they're not looking, that should be called.
Speaker 1: You know, that's unnecessary roughness. That's fine to understand that.
Speaker 1: You're talking about a defensive lineman who is chasing, chasing
Speaker 1: down Josh Allen or at the time chasing down. Was
Speaker 1: it Josh Allen? Yeah, it was Josh Allen because it
Speaker 1: was a a builds offensive lineman who put the block
Speaker 1: on Um whatever defender it was at the time, and
Speaker 1: but the guy was looking right at the play like
Speaker 1: it wasn't blindside, It wasn't egregious, it wasn't nothing crazy.
Speaker 1: That call was terrible, Uh, Josh Allen laterally it's nobody.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wanna talk about wild Card weekend, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen himself as a wild card. It just has no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on there at that point. Um allowing
Speaker 1: the third and eighteen greg was huge. How about the
Speaker 1: third and eighteen play where they're playing the soft zone.
Speaker 1: I understand you don't want to have to beat you deep,
Speaker 1: but you let this. You let do John catch the
Speaker 1: ball and run of eighteen yards. That was terrible and
Speaker 1: then not sacking to Shawn Watson. The th deserve to
Speaker 1: lose that game one four and seven. Either punt or
Speaker 1: try to field. It's like a fifty yard but schmucks.
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Speaker 1: Anymore on the Buffalo Bills in Houston, Texas. Now we
Speaker 1: spoke about this a little bit during the break, just
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up. I still thought that Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: did a terrible Oh he's a very bad and you
Speaker 1: could tell in the second half it was all Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned put on the Superman case. Tell ke
Speaker 1: McCarthy did another job. By the way, he didn't listen
Speaker 1: to anything Bill O'Brien was telling him to do, Like
Speaker 1: he would drop back and just take off and run
Speaker 1: and just make plays like that play where he got
Speaker 1: collided by two Bills defenders, Like obviously that was all him.
Speaker 1: It was like it was nothing that Bill O'Brien called
Speaker 1: or did um that helped win that game. I thought
Speaker 1: it was just all Deshaun Watson. It could not agreame
Speaker 1: more right the later game Tennessee and New England. You know,
Speaker 1: we kept sitting here wondering last last week. Franc Or
Speaker 1: like Tennessee should win this game. They're better football team,
Speaker 1: but it's the Patriots. Somehow they're gonna figure it out,
Speaker 1: and they didn't. They were eight no uh to start
Speaker 1: off the season, and they simply never recovered from there.
Speaker 1: There there. They had no offense all season long. The
Speaker 1: defense carried them, and the defense was good yet again
Speaker 1: against Tennessee, I know, uh. They allowed Derrick Henry to
Speaker 1: run for whatever he wanted almos two hundred yards on
Speaker 1: the ground, but it was almost like a bend not break,
Speaker 1: and they held his team. So I would leave thirteen
Speaker 1: points on offense. They six twenty, but they held doing Atrios.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was fourteen whatever. The Patriots defense did their
Speaker 1: job and the Patriots offense did what they did all
Speaker 1: season long. Nothing. I don't know if it's Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: I don't know, if it's a lack of skill position players.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's juliettam was injury or a
Speaker 1: combination of all of it. Patriots did not have enough
Speaker 1: this year. Sony Michelle got stuff with the goal line twice,
Speaker 1: which sucked. Rex birkehead got hit at the one yard line,
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, more, Sony didn't happen. It didn't have enough.
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry what scorched earth as he's been doing all
Speaker 1: season long. He will be a clear first round pick
Speaker 1: next year. But to me, the story of the game
Speaker 1: as it was coming out of that game, and rightfully so,
Speaker 1: he's at Mike Vrabel out coached Bill Belichick on Saturday Night.
Speaker 1: How great was that split screen of Mike Vrabel continuing
Speaker 1: to waste the clock and taking penalties while Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: is just losing his mind yelling at referees. That was
Speaker 1: awesome that it was just a great juxtaposition of Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick and one of his former players. Now, this was
Speaker 1: a back to back weeks that he has lost to
Speaker 1: either a former player or a former coach of his
Speaker 1: that was on his staff. And it was also back
Speaker 1: to back weeks where Tom Brady through a pick six.
Speaker 1: He did that against the Miami Dolphins, he did that
Speaker 1: against the Tennessee Titans in this game. And I saw
Speaker 1: Patriots fans and media pundits after this game. Greg saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady just didn't have enough help. He
Speaker 1: didn't have enough help in this game. Is this core
Speaker 1: that much different than what it has been in years past, Craig,
Speaker 1: because I don't think it is. They used a first
Speaker 1: round pick on ni Kill Harry right, they drafted him
Speaker 1: over DK metcal Whose fault is that that's in New
Speaker 1: England Patriot They use a second round They traded a
Speaker 1: second round pick for Mohammed Sanu. He did not help
Speaker 1: him win this game. Whose fault is that? That's the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. So they tried, They tried to get
Speaker 1: Brady help. They signed Antonio Brown. Of course, they didn't
Speaker 1: know Antonio Brown was gonna didn't know it, and they tried.
Speaker 1: They tried. They thought that they could turn them around,
Speaker 1: but they didn't. And of course, if he plays in
Speaker 1: this game, we're talking about something different most likely. But
Speaker 1: I don't think that you could sit here and blame
Speaker 1: the Patriots for not trying. Because they tried, drafted a
Speaker 1: wide receiver early. They didn't take dk Metcalf, that's their fault.
Speaker 1: They traded a second round pick to try and get
Speaker 1: Mohammed Sanu. At the time, we all kind of scratched
Speaker 1: our head. We're like, well, what are they doing? It's
Speaker 1: gonna work out, because you know, the Patriots know what
Speaker 1: they're doing. They could have traded that to get Emmanuel Sanders.
Speaker 1: That might have changed the outcome of this game as well.
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders has been better all season long than Mohammed Sanu.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, you
Speaker 1: gotta get Brady more weapons. The Patriots tried, they failed
Speaker 1: to do so. Belichick was outcoached in this game. And
Speaker 1: now the topic of conversation, of course, Greg is gonna
Speaker 1: be Have we seen the last of Tom Brady in
Speaker 1: the Patriots uniform? I'm sure most people are gonna lean
Speaker 1: towards Brady can't go anywhere else. He's gonna stay with
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I don't think so. I think he leaves,
Speaker 1: so I think and uh, and again, it does depend
Speaker 1: on a lot of things. I think that depending on
Speaker 1: where Josh by Dales ends up, Brady could go with him.
Speaker 1: I know the charging point. I know the Chargers have
Speaker 1: said that Ethelyn will be back next year, and I
Speaker 1: think he will. The combination of Josh mc daniels and
Speaker 1: Rady sound interesting. It does The problem is we have
Speaker 1: a team for you to where that could work. The
Speaker 1: problem is the teams that are left leaning head coaches. Cleveland, Carolina.
Speaker 1: The Giants kind of had their quarterbacks obviously, Baker Maazon
Speaker 1: on Cleveland, Ctainly Daniel Jones with the Giants. Now Carolina
Speaker 1: is interesting. Carolina is interesting. Do they go with with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Where do they draft someone? I don't know
Speaker 1: Carolina would be the spot for but they can bring
Speaker 1: in McDaniels and Brady for a year or two in
Speaker 1: Carolina draft a quarterback this year even though they just
Speaker 1: use a third or fourth round pick on Will Greer
Speaker 1: last year. Uh, and they can groom that quarterback under
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Of course, they still have Cam Newton. I
Speaker 1: don't think Cam Newton's gonna be back with the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: There's been enough smoke there where either he'll be traded,
Speaker 1: he'll be moved somewhere else. But I think Carolina is
Speaker 1: very interesting, especially because if you're the Patriots, they're not
Speaker 1: in the same conference. They're not you know, they're He's
Speaker 1: often are you gonna see the You're Tom Brady? Right,
Speaker 1: You're Tom Brady? Why are you going to Carolina. I
Speaker 1: guess that's we're not. That's why everyone's talking about the Chargers.
Speaker 1: People are talking about a potential swap that Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: can go to New England and Tom Brady can go
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. Will see it's easier to do obviously
Speaker 1: with McDaniels, but I think Anthony Lynn will be doing
Speaker 1: makes sense. I could see Tom Brady in Vegas with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I don't think that's crazy. That would be insane, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's something I could see when insprised me. See right,
Speaker 1: if it's Patrick go to New England as well. I
Speaker 1: tweeted that to all my Patriots fan the AC East
Speaker 1: Quad Quad. Yeah, I guess there's four teams in the division.
Speaker 1: He's played for every other team. You can still play
Speaker 1: a little bit too. Put Fitzpatrick the Patriots. That would
Speaker 1: be awesome. I texted a few of my Pats fan friends. Uh,
Speaker 1: they didn't response to that one. I don't think they
Speaker 1: liked he was down. He was don a Tampa Rosarians.
Speaker 1: Put Jami's wins in a Patsy uniform. Not crazy. I
Speaker 1: said this on Saturday. Durned profot bolts Today. I said,
Speaker 1: any Dalton would look great in a patch uniform. They
Speaker 1: got options? They do Marcus Mariota, Jamis wins, they got option.
Speaker 1: Maybe they trade for Cam new Greg, imagine that this
Speaker 1: won't happen. But would Rainy go to Tennessee and just
Speaker 1: played for Rabel No tan Hills their guy. No one
Speaker 1: realizes this. Don't laugh a tan Hill anymore. Man, he
Speaker 1: only threw for seventy against the number one pass for
Speaker 1: seventy yards. Let's put a bowl on this game, Greg,
Speaker 1: and kind of gets to the rest of the games.
Speaker 1: He probably, in hindsight, shouldn't have spent twenty minutes talking
Speaker 1: about a bachelor. Bad opinion, My bad, my bad. Admittedly,
Speaker 1: you're right Derrick Henry if he wasn't a first round
Speaker 1: picking next year, Um, he definitely is now free agent though.
Speaker 1: Rick Henry is a free agent unrestricted, so it's gonna
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what happened. And they can't franchise
Speaker 1: tag him and Ryan's on him, so it'll be interesting
Speaker 1: see what they do there. They're saying they want to
Speaker 1: bring back Tannehill on a long term deal. Henry will
Speaker 1: be back with Dennis. He should be. He will be,
Speaker 1: he should be, he will be next job about Arthur Smith.
Speaker 1: There an excellent job. I might be a while out
Speaker 1: coaching Bill Belichick on Saturday night, all right, the early
Speaker 1: game on Sunday, so you can out coaching the New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints and the Minnesota Vikings. Her Cousins got it done.
Speaker 1: The light He's went in there and we talked about
Speaker 1: this on Friday, and I love Minnesota in this game.
Speaker 1: We thought the spread was too high, and they did
Speaker 1: pretty much exactly didn't. I didn't think Minnesota had a
Speaker 1: chance in hell to win the game. I did like
Speaker 1: them from my spread, so I didn't didn't agree with that.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought the Saints were winning for sure.
Speaker 1: So I thought Minnesota played their game, which is exactly
Speaker 1: what they did. They could be in it, and that's
Speaker 1: what happened. They played their game, Dowvin Cook staying in
Speaker 1: the game, and they ran it down New Orleans Throats
Speaker 1: and Adam Fieland was good. Kirk Cousins did enough great.
Speaker 1: He had a really bad first half, really bad first play,
Speaker 1: first play, and first half. He made some other mistakes
Speaker 1: in the first half too. Oh it's forgiven though he
Speaker 1: essentially won them the game. Obviously. Everybody in Minnesota very
Speaker 1: much did their job the New Orleans Saints. Drew Brees
Speaker 1: was awful, Sean Payton was awful. Alan Camara was awful.
Speaker 1: That's why the Saints lost the game, very, very simply.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a phenomenal job by Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: First and foremost, the ability to bottle up Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: You know, he completed a ton of his passes in
Speaker 1: this game, twenty six of thirty three. But to limit
Speaker 1: Drew Brees to a two hundred and eight yards six
Speaker 1: point three yards per attempt, sack him three times behind
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive lines over the past three seasons,
Speaker 1: causing a fumble, his first fumble of the season, causing
Speaker 1: a fumble, causing an interception, only allowing him to throw
Speaker 1: for one touchdown. Coming into this game, Greg Drew Brees
Speaker 1: had thrown three plus touchdowns and seven of his last
Speaker 1: nine games it was at home. Phenominal job by Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer in this in the Supernome in New Orleans, takes
Speaker 1: some Hill, drives him down the field. Drew Brees comes
Speaker 1: back and I know he did a lot of time.
Speaker 1: For everyone who is criticizing the Saints for using Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill so much, why clearly he was the only person
Speaker 1: and who did anything in this game. Thomas was fine, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael for seventy I mean, we all thought it was
Speaker 1: gonna be more his you know, his props were eight
Speaker 1: and a half receptions and over it was Drew brees
Speaker 1: Is inability to give the ball obviously, well it was
Speaker 1: also part of the defensive game plan of the Vikings
Speaker 1: not allowing I saw this was the only game, only
Speaker 1: home game all year Michael Thomas had less and where
Speaker 1: he didn't have nine receptions in the game. It was crazy,
Speaker 1: It was It was very crazy. Now I go back
Speaker 1: to the end of the game where the Vikings have
Speaker 1: the ball and like, all right, they call the time out.
Speaker 1: There's two foody eight left. They call their second time
Speaker 1: out for the third time out. Excuse me, they don't.
Speaker 1: They ultimately lose the two minute warning. And we had
Speaker 1: a big discussion where I watched the game yesterday, Frank,
Speaker 1: but should they have not used the time out or
Speaker 1: should they? Should they have? And we ultimately were both
Speaker 1: on both sides of it, were like, all right, fine,
Speaker 1: maybe they should have used it, but they wanted to
Speaker 1: control of their time out to when it warning comes,
Speaker 1: when it comes. I saw on Twitter day a lot
Speaker 1: of people saying they really screwed up not using the
Speaker 1: time out in that spot. Fine the Beatle, if that's okay,
Speaker 1: they can't bother me. There's a minute fifty five left.
Speaker 1: You're on your own thirty You don't really need to
Speaker 1: go far right either. Just get the field goal. But
Speaker 1: touchdown wins the game. Yet two minutes they're doing on
Speaker 1: the field at home win the game. And a dove
Speaker 1: off with the Kamara who doesn't go out of bounds.
Speaker 1: A dove off the Kamara who doesn't go out of bounds.
Speaker 1: How about when he caught the ball and just kind
Speaker 1: of like fell backwards and didn't get the first down,
Speaker 1: Why don't you just turn and run up field? He fell,
Speaker 1: I guess he thought that he was gonna get tackled
Speaker 1: right away. But catch the ball, turn and run up field,
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, you're better than that. Correct doesn't get out
Speaker 1: of bounds. Even worse than that, they don't call the
Speaker 1: time out. They never called the time out. They rushed
Speaker 1: to spike the ball. Not surprisingly, Albancamara still moving ten
Speaker 1: second run off? All right, let's call it time outs
Speaker 1: so we avoid the run off. They don't call the
Speaker 1: time and you have a chance to go for the
Speaker 1: touchdown and win that game. Instead of eleven seconds left
Speaker 1: of a time out in their pocket, they call a
Speaker 1: screen pass, brace throws it into the ground. They went
Speaker 1: in over time still not using their time out. Horrible
Speaker 1: job by Sean Payton, Horrible job by Alvin Kamara, horrible
Speaker 1: job by Drew Brees. Minnesota outplayed them, deserved to win
Speaker 1: that game. I don't want to hear anything about the
Speaker 1: last play, but the push up by Kyle Rudolph that
Speaker 1: happens on every play all the time in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You couldn't have thought. I thought that they didn't even
Speaker 1: review it. That was egregious as well. Fine, come on,
Speaker 1: at least look at it. You have referees on Twitter,
Speaker 1: former referees saying you have to at least review that play,
Speaker 1: and there were referees on Twitter that said that it
Speaker 1: was an offensive past interference. I am not making excuses.
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses because you're right, the Vikings won
Speaker 1: this game. Is not that the Saints just lost this game.
Speaker 1: The Vikings outplayed the Saints in this game. They deserve
Speaker 1: to win. They gain more yards in this game and
Speaker 1: the the the Kyl Rolfe push off was not the
Speaker 1: reason why they lost this game, and there were plenty
Speaker 1: other reasons why they lost in this game outside of that.
Speaker 1: But I think the fact that they don't even look
Speaker 1: at it was kind of just like another you know,
Speaker 1: turning the knife in the side of Sean Payton, because
Speaker 1: I don't know, for whatever reason, League has it out
Speaker 1: for Sean Payton. I don't know about going back to
Speaker 1: like the Bounty Gator. I don't I don't listen. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that. But what I do know is
Speaker 1: that I play like that happens in every play corn
Speaker 1: Out River Run. They looked at it during celebration. They
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it needed an extensive look. I don't.
Speaker 1: Both guys are using their arms. There's no question that
Speaker 1: Kydrudo put out his arm. That's fine. That was all
Speaker 1: the time watching it in real time, I said, they're
Speaker 1: both grabbing onto each other. You know there's nothing there,
Speaker 1: but when you slow it down, and a lot of
Speaker 1: times when you slow something down and instant replay, you see, Okay,
Speaker 1: oh well, he very clearly pushed off. I thought, like
Speaker 1: I thought the first don't have a problem with him
Speaker 1: not calling at least review it. They'll take the time
Speaker 1: to review it. I thought the first down and Cook
Speaker 1: touchdown um stunk for the Saints. The guy who was
Speaker 1: in the middle of the side camera, I didn't think
Speaker 1: he got in there personally. And I saw this on
Speaker 1: Twitter yesterday. This is a multibillion dollar industry. Why don't
Speaker 1: you have a camera above the play? I think they
Speaker 1: do well. They didn't use it if they have it,
Speaker 1: because they had the side view and they have like
Speaker 1: one camera maybe in the back of the end zone
Speaker 1: where many guys. Why don't you have like a camera
Speaker 1: they did. They had the sky like floating one of
Speaker 1: the goal line so that you can see that play.
Speaker 1: They should have that. Great based on how much money
Speaker 1: the NFL makes. Come on, man, well I can't wait
Speaker 1: with the robot or why don't you just put a
Speaker 1: sensor in the goal line where like if the ball
Speaker 1: crosses it, something goes off. We have three minutes Left's
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Speaker 1: were talking during the break about Matt Rule? Uh schedule
Speaker 1: interview with the Giants tomorrow, Carolina. Today Panthers are interviewing
Speaker 1: As I mentioned Rule today Stefanski on Thursday, Cleveland could
Speaker 1: interview him then as well. Josh M. Daniels expects the
Speaker 1: interview with the Giants and Panthers later this week. Assumed
Speaker 1: by next weekend we'll know a whole lot more where
Speaker 1: all these guys will end up. Greg. I know it's Monday,
Speaker 1: but how about a slumber party tonight when I sleep over? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why not? If once my house is Biggs Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: I mean you, um, alright. I we'll talk more of
Speaker 1: those coaches Stuf tomorrow and we have more time. But
Speaker 1: the Eagles and Seahawks, and that's stunk. When Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: goes out with with the concussion. Dadevian Clowny live with
Speaker 1: the head. Do you think, Jadevia, they should have been
Speaker 1: ejected from the game if they watch that play back.
Speaker 1: I think that, yes, there's a very good argument for
Speaker 1: him to be ejected. That Carson Wentz is already going down,
Speaker 1: and it's fine if you are a defensive player and
Speaker 1: you tackle Carson wants to make sure he gets down,
Speaker 1: but to leave with your head and lead with your
Speaker 1: head but onto his head and crush it into the
Speaker 1: ground like that. I thought that, you know, that was
Speaker 1: grounds for being eliminated from this game. Everything else that's
Speaker 1: happening afterwards, like him receiving death threats and stuff like
Speaker 1: plays like that happened in the NFL every single week,
Speaker 1: every single play. It doesn't make them right, but that's
Speaker 1: on the referees, man. The referees when they see stuff
Speaker 1: like that, you know, throw the flag, eject players, do
Speaker 1: what you need to do. But do Davean Clowney at
Speaker 1: that point? I mean, yeah, it's a dirty play, But
Speaker 1: for him to receive death threats from Eagles fans like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, what are we doing? Totally agree? So
Speaker 1: I thought that that was a kind of game that
Speaker 1: you expect that a Seattle right hanging around much like
Speaker 1: the Eagles. They kept the Eagles and it John mccauting
Speaker 1: four years old everything he could hurt too? How about
Speaker 1: winning by the exact same score from the regular season
Speaker 1: matchup right? Clearly he heard his hamstring in that game
Speaker 1: when he staging is the backup quarterback was Greg Warden.
Speaker 1: I was like, please let Greg Warden didn't happen. Um.
Speaker 1: Dk Metcalf jumped two rounds himself in fantasy football. He
Speaker 1: was what you imagine he could have been when he
Speaker 1: saw him at the comb at the combine, he's a
Speaker 1: perfect fit for this offense. He is uh not real.
Speaker 1: He was drafted seven picks after j j RGA white Side,
Speaker 1: j j RTGA whiteside. Greg, would you like to tell
Speaker 1: me what he did yesterday in this game? Nope, that
Speaker 1: would be a donutcal seven receptions, zero nothing, not a
Speaker 1: nilch zilch serience against them. K Metcalf seven for one
Speaker 1: sixty and one. Put out the poll before the show,
Speaker 1: Greg and the people have spoken, say dk Metcalf will
Speaker 1: be a fifth round pick next season. He'll be a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Next season, you're probably right for Frank Stanville.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Sauceman. Thanks so much for watching. When Do
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