WEBVTT - “I HAVE 300 ILLEGAL SNAILS”

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, what's your name? What's up, Neve? How's it gone good?

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<v Speaker 2>How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hanging in there. I'm lizarding. I'm lizarding it up.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I get you today? Nive?

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<v Speaker 3>I totally did not expect you to answer. What he

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<v Speaker 3>I have pet snails, pet giant African land snails, and

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<v Speaker 3>where I live they're illegal, and so I keep them

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<v Speaker 3>a secret a lot, and I usually keep track of

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<v Speaker 3>the amount of eggs that they have. But I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I missed a couple of days and they usually lay

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds at a time and they all hatched, and the

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<v Speaker 3>other day I found hundreds crawling around and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how to kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So why are these snails illegal?

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<v Speaker 3>I live in Canada, and it's like if they're native

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<v Speaker 3>to Africa, and if they get out, they can you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ruin the ecosystem in the area.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. What how did you get them?

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<v Speaker 3>Some girl who like lives in a random town outside

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<v Speaker 3>of my city at them. I don't know how she

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<v Speaker 3>had them.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. You know, I so like you know this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>like they'll be like a bunch of like crickets or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just using a random example. But like there they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like crickets and they're like an invasive species, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they'll be signs where it's like, if you

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<v Speaker 1>see one of these crickets, kill them because they're invading there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I always thought

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought that was fucked up because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>why hold on, wait a minute, So but these crickets,

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<v Speaker 1>these crickets are not morally I mean, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>could make an argument about whether or not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like people who've done wrong deserve to die, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, do do do insects that have done wrong

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to die? I think pretty obviously no, because that

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<v Speaker 1>like no insect ever invaded you know. The insects are

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<v Speaker 1>not like you know, Hitler doing World War two. They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not like planning this out. They're just running around.

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<v Speaker 1>They just found themselves there. So why are we supposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kill them. I feel like that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like look, why like why not let them

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<v Speaker 1>if any I mean, look, humans, we're the most invasive

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<v Speaker 1>species to ever exist. We should all kill ourselves if uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if we're trying to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>invasive theses headline therapy Gecko says we should all kill ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so, how many snails are we working with here?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably like two or three hundred?

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<v Speaker 1>You have? You are currently in possession of three hundred snails.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, where do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Put three hundred snails?

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<v Speaker 3>Right now? They're chiny, which is good, but that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to do. I'm currently they laid

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<v Speaker 3>more eggs this morning, and I'm currently getting them out

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<v Speaker 3>of the tank.

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<v Speaker 1>You have three hundred illegal snails?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they all? How big is this tank that you're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping them all in?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? The big tank is like a big fish tank

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<v Speaker 3>that my my, I have two snails that are like

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<v Speaker 3>fully grown. They're the ones that have these and then

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<v Speaker 3>the babies. I'm just putting them in like containers.

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<v Speaker 1>So the government wants you to kill your snails. Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh okay, So you're torn because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>kill the snails, but also you don't want to release

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<v Speaker 1>them because then they'll start invading stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they'll probably die if I release them anyways too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so they're destined to dine a matter of what,

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<v Speaker 1>or you could keep them in foster them. Yeah, why

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the beginning. Why did you purchase

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<v Speaker 1>illegal snails?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I really like snails and these ones get really big.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you really like snails, why is it so

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<v Speaker 1>bad to have three hundred of them?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know where to put three hundred snails. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't feed three hundred snails.

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<v Speaker 1>Could you send them back to Africa?

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<v Speaker 3>That'll probably get me a just did Why would that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? Why would that get you arrested?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I don't think you can be sending snails.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the borders.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do they get there?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know? All right, so I want to find

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<v Speaker 3>the people who brought them here in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you have three hundred baby snails. So

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<v Speaker 1>the only option, I guess would be to kill all

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred of them, or not the only option. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure we can find a way out of this. But

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<v Speaker 1>you're considering killing three hundred baby snails because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>hold on to them. You can't let them out into

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<v Speaker 1>the wild, and you can't send them back to their home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, this is kind of like that movie. This is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like that movie three hundred right, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that movie. Okay, I haven't seen. It's probably not

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<v Speaker 1>like that at all. But what were you thinking to do?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you leaning towards?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I just have to kill them. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of knew this was going to happen, but

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<v Speaker 3>I was I didn't think they were all going to hatch.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I would just be able to maybe kill

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<v Speaker 3>the like the eggs when they were still eggs. But

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<v Speaker 3>then I lost track and they all hatched. And now

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<v Speaker 3>there's so many tiny baby snail faces looking at me,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's hard to kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you buy them in the first place? If

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<v Speaker 1>you knew you were gonna have to kill them?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I thought I would just like get, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>find them when they were eggs, and then be able

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<v Speaker 3>to kill the eggs.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so you were going to buy them and then

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<v Speaker 1>kill their babies.

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<v Speaker 3>That's usually how it's done.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of fucked up, you know, But otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean someone else was going to do it, so

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<v Speaker 3>I might. I was, you know, they're already here, like

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<v Speaker 3>the snails are already You're like just there. When they

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<v Speaker 3>have babies. They're gonna die anyways, whether they're in the wilder.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could say that about every organism. Every

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<v Speaker 1>organism is gonna die anyway. Yeah, what could you eat them?

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<v Speaker 1>They do that in France.

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<v Speaker 4>Mmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess like you could eat eat them they're

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<v Speaker 3>they're I don't think I feel like that would be

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<v Speaker 3>more cruel to eat my pets babies.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would that be more cool? I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>less cruel because, like if you just kill them, just

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<v Speaker 1>to kill them, like we kill things and eat them

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, this would be pretty normal. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>kill It's like you eat a chicken sandwich, except you're

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<v Speaker 1>eating the snail.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this might Every time I tell people this, it

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<v Speaker 3>sounds really bad. But I thought, like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>would like I would kill the eggs, you know, crush them,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I could I could seat them back to

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<v Speaker 3>my snails. It's a lot of nutrients, it's good protein,

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<v Speaker 3>and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Will fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what so many people do. That's what they tell

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<v Speaker 3>me to do online.

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<v Speaker 1>People online tell you kill your snails babies and then

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<v Speaker 1>feed your snails dead babies to the snails.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't know, they don't know it's they just it's

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<v Speaker 3>yummy to them. It's like a protein shake.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, these snails enjoy eating their own dead babies.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, they don't know. It's just like it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a snack to them.

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<v Speaker 1>In that case, I think these snails are sickos and

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<v Speaker 1>you should kill them. Okay, and then when you're killing them,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to feel bad because you can be like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>these guys were about to eat their own dead babies,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, why did you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you do any of this? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any other hobbies? What do you do with your life?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do anything. I just I have snails. I

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<v Speaker 3>really love snails. They used to collect snails all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I found out you could there are giant

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<v Speaker 3>snails you can get and I wanted to get giants snails.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the giant snails. Yeah, how big are Can

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<v Speaker 1>you send me a picture of these snails?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you text it to the phone line?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Where in Africa are they from?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What what are they called?

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<v Speaker 3>They're called giant African.

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<v Speaker 1>Land snails, Giant African land snails. Okay, I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 1>me google giant African land snails, Giant African snail. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>these are huge?

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<v Speaker 3>Y know?

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<v Speaker 1>These are huge snails. Yeah, okay, so for those who

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<v Speaker 1>are listening on the audio, there's a picture that I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at of a snail that fits on a

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<v Speaker 1>person's hand. These are giant snails. And right, how long

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<v Speaker 1>until they become this big?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? A year? Year or two?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? So you have a year until these snails

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<v Speaker 1>become this spend you have three hundred of these?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jesus man, Yeah, I'll send you. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it went through.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you sent a foot a right. Let me look

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<v Speaker 1>at this picture one second. Okay, I I did not

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<v Speaker 1>get your snail picture, but that's okay. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>I get a reference of my own on uh on

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<v Speaker 1>on Google. Yeah, dude, maybe, I mean ship does anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say tell them right, because then you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>trafficking snails.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know. I could maybe find the girl

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<v Speaker 3>that gave them to me and see if she wants them.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get in touch with this girl that

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<v Speaker 1>gave you the snakes, I mean the snails?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know the website Kajiji?

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all. I'm not familiar with any snail marketplace website.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, I think it's like a Canadian thing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like eBay kind of okay, it's like just a place

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<v Speaker 3>where people post on like things online they're selling. And

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<v Speaker 3>she was just pad a listing for these snails on them.

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<v Speaker 1>How long did you buy them from her?

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<v Speaker 3>Bought them April twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you've had these fucking snails for two years?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait? So how so they're already that big?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So you have three hundred of those giant snails?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, they they only I bought sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>bought two baby ones from her two years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, okay, so right now you have wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so you have two giant snails, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just had three hundred babies. Yeah, okay, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>you bought a guy and a guy and a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Well they're hermaphrodites, so they I don want a gender. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>they can produce asexually or sexually.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice. Yeah, Jesus man. Yeah, you're gonna have to kill

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<v Speaker 1>those babies. Yeah, Chat, do you have any I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ask the chat if they have any questions for you. Chat.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Canada, and I questions of suggestions destroying life.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, you're gonna have to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>Lord at the Gates of Saint Peter. But someone said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually a good idea. Are there any universities

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<v Speaker 1>or groups that can take them?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe? But I like it in trouble if they know

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<v Speaker 3>I have these here, there's.

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<v Speaker 1>No like snail you know how Okay? So like, oh wait, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how about this? Okay? So sometimes I go to when

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<v Speaker 1>I go to the so sometimes when I go to

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<v Speaker 1>the airport, there's like a marijuana amnesty box where it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, look, we know that you you know you

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<v Speaker 1>got weed on you, but if you just put it

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<v Speaker 1>in this box, you're cool. Right. Is there like a

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<v Speaker 1>is there like a snail amnesty box?

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<v Speaker 4>Hm?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm Maybe I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Google Google Google snail amnesty box. Yeah, okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see what the chat has to say. Uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so and asked if you can make them into a soup?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's yeah, you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Which someone asked would you get arrested if you were

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<v Speaker 1>called for this? Like, do you are you familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>the what are the actual consequences? Could you get arrested?

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<v Speaker 3>I'd probably just get like a fine since I only

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<v Speaker 3>have them. Maybe if I was Yeah, it's probably just

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<v Speaker 3>a fine.

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<v Speaker 1>How much is the fine?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh gosh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>How much are three hundred baby snails lives worth to you?

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if I let them out into the wild,

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<v Speaker 3>I would get a really big fine or something. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>But or if I was telling them to people, I

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<v Speaker 3>get in a lot of troubles. Book. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't control how many they had. That's their fault.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone says you could put them in a box and

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<v Speaker 1>take them to an orphanage. That's something.

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<v Speaker 3>I could. I feel like the orphanage might get scared

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<v Speaker 3>and not know.

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<v Speaker 2>What it is.

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<v Speaker 1>People. A bunch of people in the chat are saying

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<v Speaker 1>do not release them, But I think, why not? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you? Here's what? Okay, let me what's gonna happen

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<v Speaker 1>if you release them? What are they gonna do?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Well, I live in Canada, so it's really cold

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<v Speaker 3>right now, so they would just die immediately? In English?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh all right, yeah, so they were going to die anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you bought these snails?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, They make me so happy?

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<v Speaker 1>Are they making you happy right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a bit frustrated with them?

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<v Speaker 1>What what's wrong? Well? I guess what's what's so wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Like couldn't you can't? Can't you buy like normal snails?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what what was so bad about? Why were the

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<v Speaker 1>vibe A regular snails not enough for you? So you

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<v Speaker 1>had to buy these snails?

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<v Speaker 3>These oms are so big? Isn't that cool?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again?

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<v Speaker 3>Neeve?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Nieve? What are you gonna do before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna reflect on my actions. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to be more a careful and make sure the eggs

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<v Speaker 3>don't hatch. That's what I'm going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I mean I've been watching you for so long,

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<v Speaker 3>literally like the beginning of COVID, So it's very cool

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<v Speaker 3>to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool to talk to you too. I would hope

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<v Speaker 1>that if you kept me in a you know, terrarium,

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<v Speaker 1>and you found out that I was illegal, that you

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<v Speaker 1>would kill me and end my suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's good to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for calling, Neve.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you good.

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<v Speaker 1>Why imagine having three hundred illegal little lizards? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like if it was lizards I would have been I

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<v Speaker 1>would have gone harder on her just because like that's

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<v Speaker 1>personal for me. But uh yeah, you know, uh eat

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<v Speaker 1>those snails I went.

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<v Speaker 4>I went.

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<v Speaker 1>I ate snails once. I was in Paris many years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and I ate some snails and they're pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe maybe just eat the snails. Hey, folks, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Lyle. I am very excited to announce that I

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<v Speaker 1>going to announce a bunch more dates very soon. Gek Bluss, Hello, Hello, Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Delta.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Delta. When I go by like Delta nine, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what Delta nine, Delta A, what's the what's the what's

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<v Speaker 1>the exact DLTA nine? Yeah, well, Delta, how can I

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<v Speaker 1>get you today? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I'm a little nervous. I didn't think I would

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<v Speaker 2>actually get on. Let's see, I text to do saying

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm addicted to doing crime and I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>because of my childhood trauma. So I'm a graffiti writer.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually am friends with uh that dude Smiley that

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<v Speaker 2>you talked to that fell off the billboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I actually know exactly what you're talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna. I was actually thinking about this because

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<v Speaker 1>we did a graffiti call a few months ago where

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<v Speaker 1>this guy like he he graffitied a fucking you know.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy totally deserved it because he he he was

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<v Speaker 1>like graffitediing like an orphanage billboard or something, and he billboard.

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<v Speaker 2>I was there with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on top of the billboard and I watched

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<v Speaker 2>him fall. It wasn't it wasn't an orphanage billboard. It

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<v Speaker 2>was actually a blank billboard, like sometimes one day are

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<v Speaker 2>switching out ads and nobody has like bought the billboard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just blank, it's black. So that's what we're gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I assume is graffiti the only crime that

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<v Speaker 1>you're addicted to committing. Is there any other crimes do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to admit? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean stealing kind of goes with graffiti. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna addicted to that. I'm addicted. I guess to like

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<v Speaker 2>driving fast. I like drifting, but I do it relatively safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not as reckless as I was when I was younger.

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<v Speaker 2>I go up to the mountains in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the night and drift up there with my friends. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just addicted to like high risk, like adrenaline fueled activities.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And you feel like and you feel like this is

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<v Speaker 1>link to your childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so because I was always in like a

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<v Speaker 2>fight or flight kind of mindset when I was younger,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think these activities are a way for me

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of feel that way, but in a controlled environment,

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense, In a somewhat controlled environment, in

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<v Speaker 2>an environment that I put myself.

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<v Speaker 1>In, I'll say that, hmm. Okay, Uh, so you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to summon your flight or fight or flight, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation that you have control over.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so, yeah, I mean yeah, on the surface level,

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<v Speaker 2>is just I enjoy doing these things and they're fun

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But yeah, when I like think deeper on

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<v Speaker 2>it and talking to like my therapist, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>linked to that.

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<v Speaker 1>M okay, to these like situations they create trouble for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I have gotten arrested for graffiti a

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<v Speaker 2>few times. I've crashed multiple cars drifting and spent lots

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<v Speaker 2>of money on you know, cars and stuff. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, like, I don't regret any

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<v Speaker 2>of it. I still enjoy doing these things and I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'll continue to do them. But as I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>keep sucking up, I learned through my mistakes and learn

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<v Speaker 2>how to do these things in the smarter, safer way.

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<v Speaker 1>So the things that you're doing these are like drifting

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<v Speaker 1>with cars and like motorcycles and shit like that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do really want to get a motorcycle, but

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I'm very reckless and I think I

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<v Speaker 2>would die if I got a motorcycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I really you're drifting with cars?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, drifting in cars.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've talked about this in the podcast before. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am addicted to watching horrible and videos.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've gotten And.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a Twitter page called it's called I Fuck It,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my life. It's called faffo underscore TV. It's

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<v Speaker 1>fuck Around and find Out TV, and it is a

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter page dedicated to people pretty much exactly like you,

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<v Speaker 1>who kind of fuck around and find out people like

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<v Speaker 1>who For some like the videos will open with like

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<v Speaker 1>a dude riding a bicycle off of a roof and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, finding out you know, or like people you

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<v Speaker 1>know who are who are driving their cars in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a crazy reckless way and finding out you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've been fucking around with with a solid success rate,

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<v Speaker 1>but soon you will find out that's what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>those who who you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've found out, but maybe not to like the

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<v Speaker 2>super extreme. I mean, I flipped a car on its

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<v Speaker 2>roof and the mountains and uh completely totaled it and

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<v Speaker 2>got very lucky by only walking away with like a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of scratches. You know, I've watched my friend fall

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<v Speaker 2>off the billboard almost to his death. I've been in

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<v Speaker 2>many situations that are very close to, you know, serious consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>And you and you and you, and you plan to

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<v Speaker 1>continue doing these things that are edging you towards very

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<v Speaker 1>serious consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, so yeah, But I don't know. As I

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<v Speaker 2>get older, like I'm definitely being more conscious and safe

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<v Speaker 2>with my decisions, like like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what like tell me, tell me something you have

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<v Speaker 1>planned to do that is an example of one of

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<v Speaker 1>these behaviors.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So for drifting, I I am planning to once

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<v Speaker 2>I fix my car and planning to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>track a lot more and really like get my skills

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<v Speaker 2>down on the track. I'm still gonna drift in the streets,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm just gonna not do it as much.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna what is drifting drift? What exactly is

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<v Speaker 1>drifting in the streets? What does that mean? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>For me, I like going up into the mountains on

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<v Speaker 2>like curby like mountain roads and finding a good couple

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<v Speaker 2>of corners and just kind of drifting through those corners

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<v Speaker 2>with my friends, and we'll like tandem with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll try to like, you know, get really close

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<v Speaker 2>to each other while we're sideways, essentially like drifting. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the art of like controlling your car while

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<v Speaker 2>it's sideways, you know how. Like you, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever like hit a big puddle while you're

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<v Speaker 2>driving being and it kind of like makes you slip out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that, but on purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lot of fun. It is pretty stupid, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're gonna die doing that. That's the stupidest. That's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of. Me

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<v Speaker 1>and my friends go up to a mountain. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>do this at night?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? At night?

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<v Speaker 1>You me and my friends go up in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a mountain in the middle of the night and we

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<v Speaker 1>and we drive really fast right next to each other

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<v Speaker 1>on windy roads. That's what. It's really stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fun though.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking playing video games, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't know, it doesn't give me that

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<v Speaker 2>same Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also really stupid because here's another thing, is like

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to kill yourself. You know, you, as

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<v Speaker 1>a human being, have the right. You can do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the right that you have, is your its bodily autonomy.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're don't risk killing other people?

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, I'm not. That's the why we go in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the night, because then there's nobody else on

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:01.840
<v Speaker 2>the roads. Plus at night you can see oncoming headlights,

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:05.520
<v Speaker 2>so if for some reason there is somebody coming, we'll

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:08.400
<v Speaker 2>see them like multiple corners ahead and we'll notice stop.

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, uh yeah, no, I think it's just really dumb.

0:27:18.760 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Well do you are you?

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Do you?

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Are you aware of it? You're gonna die if you

0:27:22.400 --> 0:27:22.959
<v Speaker 1>keep doing this.

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'm gonna die. I think it's safer

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>than you'd imagine. Like, I have a friend that snapped

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>an axle while he was drifting and he like fell

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>off the cliff basically in his Miata, And I mean

0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.560
<v Speaker 2>his car sustained like no major damage. It broke like

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 2>a tirod and he was able to fix it. And

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:48.960
<v Speaker 2>uh yeah, like it's it sounds really crazy, but when

0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you're up there doing it, it's a lot safer than

0:27:52.240 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 2>you'd imagine it to be.

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm actually I so you might have heard this,

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:01.600
<v Speaker 1>but I had this very very similar phone call a

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>few months ago with a guy who liked to ride

0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:07.400
<v Speaker 1>his motorcycle crazy fast. Yeah.

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember that one.

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is a similar thing. And I told

0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>that guy he was a fucking idiot.

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing with motorcycles is there's no huge metal

0:28:18.960 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>shell around you to protect you. It's just you and

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>the elements. So that's why I haven't gotten the motorcycle

0:28:25.320 --> 0:28:28.719
<v Speaker 2>because of that. And I think I will die if

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I get a motorcycle. Yeah. I told my friends to

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 2>like take it away from me if I ever do

0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:33.719
<v Speaker 2>get one.

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm conflicted about this because I'm telling you not to

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>do it, but I also, you know, I kind of

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 1>want you to so that way, I see you on

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 1>on the fuck around and find out Twitter page and

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:47.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh shit, I know that.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you ever see a redion.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I actually I actually am conflicted about it because I

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.719
<v Speaker 1>actually am conflicted about it because like, well, like there's

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like there are are like extreme sports. There's like professional

0:29:02.720 --> 0:29:07.440
<v Speaker 1>motocross motherfuckers, and like yeah, race car drivers and like

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the jackass guys, Like there are people

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 1>who professionally have learned to do stupid things, which I

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>guess makes it a legitimate thing to do. But like

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>why but they do, but they don't do it like

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and like why like just stick to the track, you know,

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I just stick to the track.

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Most of them learned on the street. There's professional drifters too,

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:33.560
<v Speaker 2>and most of them learned on the streets. Maybe maybe

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>not in the mountains, but you know they'll find like

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>whatever they have near them roads.

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.240
<v Speaker 1>But just why do you have to do it in

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>public where like other people can like get fucked up?

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, because the track is expensive.

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>And it's far dumb. That's so dumb, you know. I don't.

0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to think I'm like trying, like

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm we're we be we're really cautious about other people.

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 2>We have like people standing on the corner with flashlights

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and they'll you know, like wave the flashlight if they

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 2>see a car coming.

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 1>So we noticed us, And it's just dumb. I just

0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:13.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not like I just don't fuck with

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:16.479
<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing. I really don't. I really like don't.

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean for me personally, I don't like to do

0:30:19.320 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>anything where I can get like fucked up, and then

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>for other people, it's like it's not cool to do

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.880
<v Speaker 1>things where like, you know, like other people can get

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>fucked up. Like imagine someone at the bottom of the mountain.

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>They're just taking a little midnight walk and a rolling

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 1>car just crushes them.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 2>I highly doubt somebody would be walking on those roads

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night. But I see your point.

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.760
<v Speaker 2>I for sure see I've gotten you.

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:49.240
<v Speaker 1>Know when I was, I just don't like that kind

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 1>of shit. I mean, I'm like I said, I'm addicted

0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 1>to watching these videos, and I'm watching these videos and

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I do not understand these people who do

0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>this kind of shit.

0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah not I get it. I feel it, but uh.

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>But I mean whatever, man, it's it's uh, I don't know,

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I feel like I already did this

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>call with the with the motorcycle guy, and I I

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:16.120
<v Speaker 1>could eat everything I said to him to you, but

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know how worth it that would be. Yeah, yeah,

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm it's probably it's probably not a good part of

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 1>those videos. Those like funk around him found out find

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 1>out videos. I feel less bad about them because it

0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>like it really it really is. People fucked around and

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>found out like there's this one video of a dude

0:31:38.120 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>who's like sticking his hand. He's literally sticking his hands

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>in a lion cage.

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>That's exactly the video. I was thinking, you're gonna say, yes, I.

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Know, you know the video and like he's he's and

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>the lion like like like like like bites like like

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>like goes at goes it goes at his hand and

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>he takes his hand down, and at that point you

0:32:04.400 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 1>got away free. At that point, most people, most people

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be doing that in the first place, but most

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>people would leave and stop doing it. But this guy

0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>puts his hand back into the lion's cage. The lion

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>grabs his fucking finger, dude, and and rips his finger off,

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's like the tendon comes out like a mozzarella stick,

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and you know, normally but he's and it's like, dude,

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>the mother for the guy who stuck his hand in

0:32:31.000 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>the lion cage, you know, yeah, yeah, I mean it's

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of those, like gore videos are like innocent

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>people getting hit by cars and ship But that's that's

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the thing I guess I admire about the fuck around him.

0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Find out page is that it's it's it really is

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>people who you're like, dude, what are you doing? Just

0:32:52.240 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>just jumping off of roofs and ship I don't know anyway.

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, have you seen the ones of like people at

0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>UH side shows. We're like, it's a big group of

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 2>people like drifting in an intersection and people get like

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 2>hit and they go flying like bowling pins.

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed that you watch this page and it hasn't

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>got you to be like I should stop doing this.

0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>That's I find that amazing.

0:33:15.800 --> 0:33:17.440
<v Speaker 2>If anything, it just teaches me how to be a

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 2>little bit safer about what I do.

0:33:21.080 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, it was nice knowing you, man. What's your name? Delta? Delta?

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Is anything else you want to say to the people

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we go?

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 2>No, thank you for taking my call. I hope you

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 2>have a good rest of your night. Shout out ha GD,

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>shout out ypc's shout out Friend's crew.

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. All those people should stop doing whatever

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>they're doing and go with the paint in their room.

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 2>They're just groups of like minded people having fun in

0:33:51.920 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 2>this world.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Groups of like minded people making the streets far more

0:33:56.640 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>dangerous for pedestrians and civilian drivers a lot. Ill these

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:03.160
<v Speaker 1>guys are stopped doing that.

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 3>The ters.

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>They're making the streets more beautiful. They're putting color on

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>the walls. And I'm gonna do a I promise you,

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do a therapy gecko.

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Piece for you. Yeah. Where what? What? What? What?

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Where in the in the bay Area in Oakland?

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh ship our Wait? Do it before I do it.

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to the Bay Area in June. Do it

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>before I come.

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I know, I think it's your show.

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh you do? Yeah?

0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 2>Me and the my friend was trying to go last

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>time smiler, the guy that fell off the billboard and

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:38.000
<v Speaker 2>he got sick and didn't go.

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>But wait, actually, actually, can you if you decide to

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>do it, can you d m me? Because I might

0:34:43.120 --> 0:34:44.799
<v Speaker 1>end up hanging out in the Bay Area for a

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of days before the show, and if you do it,

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:48.439
<v Speaker 1>I want to see it sick.

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got you, okay.

0:34:49.800 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>But also but also also if you like get arrested

0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>for it, I had nothing to do with it.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 4>That's good.

0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I got you. I'll take you drifting too, if you

0:34:58.920 --> 0:34:59.359
<v Speaker 2>want to come.

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Damn, maybe, dude, what if what if the one time

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the I come along is where it goes wrong and

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:06.759
<v Speaker 1>we all die.

0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 2>No, if I ever have passengers in the car, I'm

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>like thirty times more safe about it, Like I don't crash.

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well thirty times zero is zero.

0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 2>It would be sick dude. We've got to like, we

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:23.960
<v Speaker 2>won't even have to go to the mountains. We can

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 2>go to like a big ethnic parking lot where nothing

0:35:27.560 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and let's be sick dude in the therapy costume, in

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:31.640
<v Speaker 2>the get in the get costume.

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Bro. Yeah, I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play video games

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 1>in my hotel. You can. You can drive off the

0:35:36.880 --> 0:35:39.160
<v Speaker 1>side of a mountain if you so desire. Uh, but

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:41.160
<v Speaker 1>let me know about the graffiti. Actually sounds so cool.

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.720
<v Speaker 1>All right, thanks for calling Delta, see you around the universe.

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Thanks man, peace, have a good night.

0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm never going to get in the car with

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.480
<v Speaker 1>that guy, but uh, if he wants to, you know,

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:59.439
<v Speaker 1>drug graffiti on a under a bridge in my name,

0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:05.840
<v Speaker 1>that actually sounds kind of cool, but illegal, and I

0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>do not endorse illegal behavior. I am a gecko. Hey, folks,

0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.760
<v Speaker 1>this is Lyle. I'm jumping in here to talk about

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.759
<v Speaker 1>this next phone call because it's not actually a phone call.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 1>It's actually a conversation that I had with a person

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>in real life. So here's what's going on with me.

0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 1>I just I've been trying to leave my house more

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and I used to do I haven't done one of

0:36:38.280 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>these since June of last year in Australia, but I

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>used to do a lot of these interviews where I

0:36:43.320 --> 0:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>would go out into the world with some chairs and

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 1>a zoom recorder and a microphone and my iPhone and

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>just set up with a sign that says talk to

0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 1>a real gecko and chat with people who are down

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>to chat with me. And so this past Monday, I

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>went to a little park in Brooklyn and I set

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>up all my shit and I talked to some people.

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And you can find the full video of this on

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>my YouTube channel YouTube dot com slash Lyle Forever. But

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>what I'm about to play for you now is a

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:26.799
<v Speaker 1>little excerpt from that interview session that I had with

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a dude who works for he like helps film much

0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 1>this travel TV show, and he had a bike and

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>he had long hair, which you won't be able to

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>see because it's just an audio interview, but it was

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 1>a cool conversation. I hope you enjoy it. And I'm

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>probably gonna do a lot more of these things, so

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>get used to it. I hope you like it. I'm

0:37:51.440 --> 0:37:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm going out into the universe. I'm talking to everyone.

0:37:53.880 --> 0:37:57.239
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be good and all right. I'm gonna just

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 1>play it and thanks for listening to my podc guest.

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's your name?

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm Thomas.

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>Nice to meet you, Thomas. What's uh? What are you doing?

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:11.239
<v Speaker 1>I picked a very unemployed time to set up in

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the park. It's three thirty pm on a Monday.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 4>I prefer the term funemployed.

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 1>What are you unemployed? No?

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:20.879
<v Speaker 4>I do gig work.

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, like film and TV?

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:23.919
<v Speaker 4>Nice?

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 1>Nice?

0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 4>So I work on a travel show.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:27.360
<v Speaker 1>What travel show?

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.520
<v Speaker 4>It's called Samantha Brown's Places to Love?

0:38:30.360 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you about it? Or is it you

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:32.239
<v Speaker 1>ndy eight?

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Can we can talk about it. We haven't shot anything

0:38:34.640 --> 0:38:36.720
<v Speaker 4>in like, I don't know, five six months.

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 1>So oh okay, because it's like the seasonal Samantha Brown

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:40.320
<v Speaker 1>say it again.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 4>Places to Love. It's on PBS.

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, Where's she go?

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 4>All over the place? We do a lot of stuff

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 4>in the States. So I started with them like three

0:38:48.800 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 4>years ago as a photographer and COVID was a thing

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 4>because it was like twenty twenty one, so all of

0:38:55.680 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 4>our travel was domestic, and then we went to Ireland

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 4>last fall. Sorry, no, twenty twenty two. That was the

0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 4>first domestic trip I did with them. Before COVID, they

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 4>did a bit more international stuff, but I just like

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:16.319
<v Speaker 4>wasn't on the team. But yeah, so I've been with

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 4>them for a few years now. I'm doing like some

0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:21.480
<v Speaker 4>like third camera work as well. So small team kind

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:23.240
<v Speaker 4>of get to do a lot, which is fun.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Very nice.

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 4>But yes, we go, uh we start shooting in a

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:25.959
<v Speaker 4>couple weeks.

0:39:26.120 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, where you're gonna go?

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh, Crystal Coast? Is that what's called the North Carolina

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:34.200
<v Speaker 4>like coastal North Carolina. It's like I don't know if

0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:37.560
<v Speaker 4>you've ever seen that famous white lighthouse. No, it's like

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 4>one of the North.

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 1>Carolina from Seinfeld.

0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't think so talking about that.

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the only famous lighthouse.

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:48.760
<v Speaker 4>That's fair. That's fair. And then we're going to New Orleans,

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 4>which you probably do know.

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been. I've been around the States, but I've never

0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:53.479
<v Speaker 1>been in New Orleans.

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 4>It's school town. I've been a little bit. I'm excited

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.240
<v Speaker 4>to go because usually we get like behind the scenes access,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, so like they take us cool places.

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>So I what, because I want to do a travel show,

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I do that. I mean, this is my version of

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>a travel show. What's she do? It's her show.

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 4>Well, so she's like a legit TV personality. So she

0:40:09.360 --> 0:40:12.040
<v Speaker 4>was on the travel channel for like twenty five years. Oh,

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 4>she had like her own shows and was I think

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.399
<v Speaker 4>I think wanted more control over the content of the show.

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.400
<v Speaker 4>So now she and her husband kind of co produced

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 4>the show. So she's the host, heasy executive producer. They

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 4>do everything kind of in house, which is cool. Do

0:40:26.480 --> 0:40:28.839
<v Speaker 4>they make it put it on YouTube or it's all

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 4>on PBS so it's all free on like on the

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 4>PBS app or their websites. But they own the show,

0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 4>which is cool. So they're actually looking to get more

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:38.439
<v Speaker 4>into YouTube. So this is cool.

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.120
<v Speaker 1>But I'm curious about this because all right, so she's

0:40:41.160 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 1>been doing this for twenty five years. Right now, after

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty five years, I haven't years, I haven't just seen everything.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.759
<v Speaker 4>You know, fair enough, I really do feel that way.

0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm really like, after twenty five years, Yeah, how do

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you stay excited? I mean, I guess that's the question

0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 1>for her. But I'm curious.

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, fair enough. Now, I mean I've been fortunate enough

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 4>to travel a lot in the last years. Yeah, I mean,

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:04.759
<v Speaker 4>like on a much smaller scale than her. But but yeah,

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:06.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. You definitely start to have to find

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 4>like value in like the little parts of travel and

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.280
<v Speaker 4>the things that like, you know, I think I like people.

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 4>I like meeting people when traveling, And I think there's

0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 4>something cool about, like, I don't know, like just you

0:41:16.360 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 4>interact with people that their life might be totally different

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 4>than yours. Yeah, it might function in a completely different

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 4>sphere of the world, and yet here you are interacting

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 4>for some reason or another. Yeah, I just think that's

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 4>kind of cool. Yeah, And I think you tend to

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 4>cross more paths with more strangers when you're traveling for

0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 4>some reason.

0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:33.360
<v Speaker 1>It's true. Yeah, it's true. Do you So do you

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.799
<v Speaker 1>do you travel a lot independently of your job?

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:41.400
<v Speaker 4>I sometimes it depends, I think. I mean I did

0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 4>a big road trip last summer. It was kind of

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 4>like my own personal trip. So I'm from Upstate New York,

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:48.319
<v Speaker 4>like two hours north here. Cool, So I started there

0:41:48.560 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 4>and I did like a giant loop all the way

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:51.799
<v Speaker 4>around the country, like all the way to la and back,

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.319
<v Speaker 4>basically hit the rest of the states. I hadn't been

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 4>too so now I'm at forty nine out of fifty.

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 4>I gotta go to Hawaii.

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But did you go by yourself? Did you go with homies?

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? So it was cool. It was cool. I did

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 4>I want out for like six weeks. It was like

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.120
<v Speaker 4>ten thousand miles, like it was a big trip. So

0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 4>it was I feel like road trips are less like

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 4>vacation and more adventure.

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Did you get Did you get lonely?

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 4>For sure? I mean in the middle there, I kind

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 4>of mixed in some like family and friends, like my

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 4>mom's from Utah, so like I saw some family out

0:42:16.120 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 4>in Utah I haven't seen a while, and like friends

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 4>up and down California. So and then on the way

0:42:21.120 --> 0:42:22.080
<v Speaker 4>back it was kind of it was a couple of

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 4>chunks in the middle basically where I was like solo.

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's interesting. I've done a lot of solo travel myself,

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like America is not great for solo travel.

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know what you think about that, because

0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean in like you know, Europe and other places,

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:38.720
<v Speaker 1>there's like hostels you can stay in and yeah, people

0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like that. Dir yeah, yeah, but like and if you

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>travel in America, it's just you and your car kind

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:43.319
<v Speaker 1>of for sure.

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:45.399
<v Speaker 4>I definitely cant a lot, so I've got a little tent.

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 4>I did sleep in my car a few times, just

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 4>so sometimes it's like easier. Like I went to like

0:42:49.120 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 4>National Parks, so I would try and get up at

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 4>like sunrise, and it was much easier to like not

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:56.440
<v Speaker 4>have to pack up a tent that was all kind

0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 4>of dewey. I could just like turn on the car

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:02.719
<v Speaker 4>and just go. But yeah, it was. It was a

0:43:02.719 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 4>good time. And I think, uh, I don't know, I

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 4>feel like it's a it's a good way to see

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>the country if you got the time. I think a

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 4>road trip is like one of the best ways to

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.640
<v Speaker 4>see America because if you're from somewhere else and you

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 4>just come here to New York or just go to

0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 4>l A or whatever, like, there's there's a lot to

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:18.440
<v Speaker 4>be seen. But I think, uh, I don't know, I

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 4>don't think you get like like the heart of it,

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:21.799
<v Speaker 4>you know. I feel like I feel like there's some

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of soul in just like the middle

0:43:23.440 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 4>of nowhere where?

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Where? Where would you want to go next? Where's your next? Uh?

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Next personal trade? Next person interested in like Central and

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 4>South America. I really don't speak any Spanish, so that

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 4>would be a good start. But one of my really

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.399
<v Speaker 4>really close friends is from Costa Rica, or he lives

0:43:38.440 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 4>in Costa Rica, so I might start there, go see him,

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know nothing on the books as of now.

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 4>Staying open.

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 1>What interesting? So I mean, so you you haven't shoed

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>anything in six months.

0:43:50.400 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean I've done like other I've been doing other work.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.279
<v Speaker 4>I haven't just been like okay that. Each winter's been

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 4>a little different. Sometimes it's film stuff. Sometimes it's not

0:43:58.640 --> 0:44:00.759
<v Speaker 4>like I've been doing this. Uh, I've been doing some

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 4>driving for this telcom startup, so it's really random. But

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:07.359
<v Speaker 4>I like hop in a car and there's a there's

0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 4>a box of routers on the roof with SIM cards

0:44:09.400 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 4>in them like in your phone, and it just every

0:44:11.560 --> 0:44:13.840
<v Speaker 4>sixty seconds like runs a speed test and gets the

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 4>very geospecific data for how fast each carrier is. So

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 4>it's like independent third party data. I guess, like verifying,

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:25.560
<v Speaker 4>you can call it. But I mean I'm not doing

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:26.840
<v Speaker 4>any like the tech stuff. I'm just sitting in a

0:44:26.880 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 4>rental car, like driving around Las Vegas for eight hours

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 4>a day for six days in a row.

0:44:30.800 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh so you you do these gigs where you like

0:44:33.880 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>go to a place. Yeah, yeah, and you're fucking working

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 1>for like six weeks straight and then you come back

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and you chill, so you work and then.

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.239
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly. I was actually talking about like, I mean,

0:44:44.239 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 4>I feel like I work. It's it's inconsistent, like up

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 4>and down. But I was talking her friend recently and

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of like, you know, it's like the the

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.000
<v Speaker 4>go harder go home. I feel like I go hard

0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:53.600
<v Speaker 4>and then go home. I get both.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like.

0:44:54.400 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean that's kind of been the flexibility that I've

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.200
<v Speaker 4>enjoyed of film and TV production in general. It's definitely

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 4>a little stressful sometime, and there's no consistency in my

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.680
<v Speaker 4>life at all. But you know, I think for now,

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:05.839
<v Speaker 4>like it's it's definitely working.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I you know what. I like that, right? Because uh,

0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I like that because if it's saying is go hard

0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.920
<v Speaker 1>or go home, but why not both? You go hard

0:45:15.040 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>and then you go back exactly what it should be.

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 4>It's in like waves. Yeah, So I feel like I've

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 4>been very lucky the last few years. Like it's just

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.760
<v Speaker 4>been like, you know, I'm three years out of college,

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 4>so three yeah, twenty twenty one. So I feel like

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 4>I've been very lucky to have like a a fairly

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:32.680
<v Speaker 4>eventful few years.

0:45:32.760 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>What's making you enjoy life on just.

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 4>A day to day basis, Well, I just moved here. Oh,

0:45:37.560 --> 0:45:40.200
<v Speaker 4>so that's been a change of scenery has been quite nice.

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Let's see. I I yeah, we when would you move here?

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 4>Like the end of February. So me and my buddy,

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm living with my friend Patrick.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>What's up?

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:50.320
<v Speaker 4>Pat?

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Shout out Patrick?

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 4>Pat is like my oldest friend and he, uh, you

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 4>and I have no each other since we were like,

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.759
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, eleven and twelve like that, so we

0:46:00.800 --> 0:46:02.839
<v Speaker 4>grew up together and then this is the first time

0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 4>we've lived together. So he's gotten a new job, like

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm I'm in a new place. We're both in a

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 4>new place. Like it's it's it's been pretty exciting, you know,

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 4>get to bike around new places instead of the same place.

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>What what do you hope for the future. What's what's

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 1>keeping you going for the future.

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I feel like I uh I don't know,

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 4>like a consistent paycheck would be nice. Yeah, I mean

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm excited to be but the travel shows starting again,

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 4>like I said, so like I'll be I'll be doing

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 4>that again. But uh, I don't know. There's there's part

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 4>of me that's definitely and at a point where I'm

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 4>definitely kind of feeling like a crossroads, like I might take. Well,

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:46.440
<v Speaker 4>the two roads are like like one to continue what

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 4>I have been doing, like do the like film, like

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:50.480
<v Speaker 4>he keep sticking with the gig work and like, you know,

0:46:50.600 --> 0:46:52.239
<v Speaker 4>just be a little more stressed for now, and I

0:46:52.239 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 4>hope it pays off in the future. But I mean

0:46:53.520 --> 0:46:56.800
<v Speaker 4>it's still enjoyable for sure. It's cool experience. But I

0:46:56.840 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 4>also have an opportunity to do more with this like

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:00.759
<v Speaker 4>Telcom company that I was talking about. I might do

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 4>more like project management with them.

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>So do you make your own movies?

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:06.120
<v Speaker 4>I make my little like shorts and stuff.

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, tell me about the last movie that you made.

0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 4>The last one. I will So the challenge. I set

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 4>myself a challenge for this year to like make one

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 4>video every month okay year, because I I do have

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:17.320
<v Speaker 4>other things and like I could say like once a

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 4>week and I just like know that happen, so and

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:23.160
<v Speaker 4>it's like they're there. The concepts are broad. It's not

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.479
<v Speaker 4>meant to be a super like challenging like every every

0:47:25.680 --> 0:47:27.440
<v Speaker 4>one's gonna be a little different. So I made one

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.719
<v Speaker 4>in February that was kind of just like about the

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 4>concept of the leap day and like the idea of

0:47:32.040 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 4>treating it like a bonus day, and how I think, like,

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 4>you know, we have a lot more control in our

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.920
<v Speaker 4>perception of the world than we think sometimes, and I

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.280
<v Speaker 4>think that there's a lot to be said for saying

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 4>this is a bonus day, like giving yourself the space

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 4>to just like enjoy little things in life.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do with your leap day?

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<v Speaker 4>I unpacked because it was like five days after, like

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<v Speaker 4>not even it was like a couple days after I

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<v Speaker 4>moved in, So mine mine was not as exciting.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't like land on a beach or anything, but uh,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think, uh it was it was still

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<v Speaker 4>like settling into new place, which felt good. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of the future, I'm just looking forward to

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<v Speaker 4>seeing what comes next. It's it's exciting to live in

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<v Speaker 4>New York. I always been near New York, you see.

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<v Speaker 1>You seem like an excited guy. You seem like your

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<v Speaker 1>life is it seems like you're going you're doing well.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel I feel I feel very fortunate. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel quite positive about whatever's coming. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't worry about too much about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you have you never been a war You've

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<v Speaker 1>never been a warrior, A warrior, a worried a warrior.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I was like a lot more anxious as

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<v Speaker 4>a kid. Yeah, I think I've I have my moments

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<v Speaker 4>for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Still what changed to make you feel.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably started smoking weed? Yeah, I feel like right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's so crazy because, like I I've

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<v Speaker 1>probably talked about this to death on my shows and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's crazy. We It's crazy because for some people

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<v Speaker 1>who just causes debilitating anxiety, and for other people that

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<v Speaker 1>cures it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I have friends who went from one to the other,

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<v Speaker 4>Like they used to be fine and now they're like

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<v Speaker 4>any time they're high, they're like freaking out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's a very weird thing. Like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I have my own I feel like everyone's

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.680
<v Speaker 4>got their own relationship with it. But yeah, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it just kind of like made things a

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<v Speaker 4>little slower, made things a little easier to just like

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<v Speaker 4>not worry too much about.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish that we worked for me. I really did,

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<v Speaker 1>because then I would love to be like stoned right

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<v Speaker 1>now doing this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I feel like I don't know, like I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like hosting, like especially it's like a stranger walks

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<v Speaker 4>up and even like I kind of like know who

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 4>you are, right like I'm obviously never liked sure, so

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<v Speaker 4>like it's kind of like you have to got like

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<v Speaker 4>make some un comfortable and like, you know, initiate something.

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<v Speaker 1>And but like even if I was like like if

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<v Speaker 1>you were like you're talking on the thing right now,

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<v Speaker 1>if I like I would be you know, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>i'd be anxious. I think sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I was a little bit at first, but

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<v Speaker 4>I saw it. I was kind of like the whole

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:42.040
<v Speaker 4>bike thing was a little but I don't know, you

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<v Speaker 4>want to go next? Nice coat? That coat is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a cool coat. Thanks man, you too, God bless you.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a really cool coat.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a cool coat. Ye feathers and people around.

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<v Speaker 4>Here are so stylish. It's awesome. Yeah, it really didn't

0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:59.360
<v Speaker 4>rock my best fit to be on camera to no,

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<v Speaker 4>you look great. I'm so comfy. Yeh, super comfy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this chair it looks shitty, but it's actually pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool for sure. And if it seemed like a little

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<v Speaker 1>bag nice.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so easy to take everywhere. Do you like live

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<v Speaker 4>here or do you like travel around in the park?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, dressed like this, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're just like somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not joke. I kind of live here. I like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like airbeing being around. I don't rely live anywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>You just like take these all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I want to do. That's what I

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.880
<v Speaker 1>want to do. I'm trying to you've inspired me because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm well, I'm trying. I'll tell you about my

0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>struggles right now. I'm trying to decide, like should I

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<v Speaker 1>stay and should I commit to being in New York

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<v Speaker 1>and just like live a normal person life, or should

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<v Speaker 1>I be like you know what, I'm still young. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go roade. Let's why what the hell am I doing here?

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I can do my job from anywhere when I go

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<v Speaker 1>to Thailand or Puerto Rico or Alaska, all that all

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that stuff. You know, I totally I'm trying. I'm trying

0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>to figure out what the hell to do because I've

0:50:57.040 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 1>done that before. But you always you come back and

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:01.759
<v Speaker 1>you know your life is still there.

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<v Speaker 4>As the class would say, should I stay or should

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<v Speaker 4>I go?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, should I stay or should I go? But but

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.799
<v Speaker 1>but here's the thing, and I here's what I think

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<v Speaker 1>the answer might be, go hard.

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<v Speaker 4>And then exactly exactly. Maybe that's a shirt. Maybe go

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<v Speaker 4>hard on the back and then go home.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that. All right, Well we can put the

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<v Speaker 1>profits on that perfect. What's your name again, Thomas, Thomas?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't wait for things, just like go try because like

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I'd rather have it go badly and

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<v Speaker 4>learn from that then not know. Like That's what I'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>if that made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Bless you, Thomas. That did it makes sense? That makes sense?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? Cool? Thanks dude. This was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was fun man. Thanks for I'm glad we're

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<v Speaker 1>crashing in. Thanks for crashing in. Yeah. We we I

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<v Speaker 1>think we figured we we figured it all out. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>went okay and all right, Well, good luck with your day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, brother. Good luck with the rest of your bike.

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<v Speaker 1>D I hope you earned many calories. Never be Cat

0:52:03.880 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 1>goes on the line taking your phone calls every night.

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<v Speaker 1>The repeat goes doing his eye. He's teaching you loud

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<v Speaker 1>and your life, but he's not really an expert.