WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Playoff Fever 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.920 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:17.959 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:22.159 Shot screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:27.400 official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:37.720 and Micky Spagnola. And just like any good team, whenever 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.199 he comes down to playoff time, you have to be 0:00:40.320 --> 0:00:43.080 willing to roll with the punches. You gotta be able 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:46.400 to call to the bench, called to the bullpen, and 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.000 come in hot. And that is exactly what Mick Shots 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.040 is doing today. I am not Bill Jones sitting in 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.800 for the legend himself. I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad to be 0:00:55.840 --> 0:00:59.960 alongside Everson Walls. We've got Mickey Spagnola on the phone, 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:02.920 and if you're watching us live, you won't see Mickey, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:06.759 but we guarantee Mickey is here and he is present 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.920 as we bring you a Tuesday edition of Mix Shots. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:13.119 How's everybody doing ever? Since? You're doing all right? Man, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.880 I'm doing just fine. I gotta say you built yourself 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.480 up pretty well. Then you kind of raise the bar. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.720 Oh well, thank you, how well you do? We'll see 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:23.640 how I can fit in of course, I'm across Dallas 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.160 Cowboys dot com, but glad to make my mix Shots appearance. 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.039 You're wearing your victory white as the cowboys you're hiding. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:34.200 They're white out this way outside too. It went well 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.720 with the with the weather. Oh good, good, absolutely, Mickey, 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.440 how are you doing? Can you hear us? All right? 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.280 I've got you loud and clear and ready to go. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.040 Now you've you've had an interesting day so far getting 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.120 set for this show. We were just talking about it 0:01:48.160 --> 0:01:51.800 a little bit off the air, but you're your journey 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:57.160 to be on mix Shots today was not your favorite thing, right, Yeah? 0:01:57.160 --> 0:02:00.920 It probably started it around quarters of eleven and ended 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.760 at about one o'clock trying to figure out why the 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:11.200 video from the uh app we used to get video 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.480 on the show from Afar wasn't working, and we moved 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.320 all the way to broken up video, which was better 0:02:19.360 --> 0:02:23.440 than the color bars that we were dealing with, but 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:27.080 didn't quite get there. So, yeah, no one gets to 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.080 see my beautiful face today. Yeah, that's unfortunate. That's a 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.880 loss for everybody involved. They at least get to hear 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.880 you say that. I mean, can we honestly say that 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:38.880 to a loss? You know? We miss you, but to 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:42.560 say a loss, that's uh, that's different. That's a little 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.160 bit too far. But Chris beam in the back, he 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:46.760 was he was trying to get it all set up, 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.400 and I walked in. He goes look at Mickey and 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:50.400 he just pointed up to the screen and it just 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.160 looks like a bunch of colors put together. It actually 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.240 looked like a painting. And Chris came up with, am 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.560 not gonna see it first? Oh, we gotta know what 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.120 it looked like. It looked like that commercial when the 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:09.560 lady's face broke up. I'm not a bad aunt. The 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.960 is that an a T and T commercial? I think? 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.400 All right, here we go, here we go. I got it, 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.640 I hope. So okay, yeah, there it is on Everson's 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.000 camera here. That guys, what do we call that now, Kyle, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:25.959 you can go ahead. Is the Macasso? That is the Micasso? Yeah, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:29.399 that's what happens when you have a droid phone as 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:33.880 opposed to the beautiful iPhone that we're dealing with right here. Oh, 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:39.480 this is what rod commercial. I'll tell you what. I'd 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:43.240 rather get paid by one that works. Okay, I'd rather 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.520 get paid by one that works. Thank you. Sir very much, 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.440 Thank you Chris for that. This is this is better. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.520 You better check the sponsor list for the Cowboys before 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:55.120 you start throwing that. Yeah, that's true, that's true. We 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.600 need to we gotta be careful about It's okay. I 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.880 think you're fine. I think you're fine. But the micasso 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.920 was what we were we were greeted with today. But Mickey, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.920 any anything stand out to you? Jerry Jones was on 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.600 the fan earlier today kind of talking about going into 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:12.080 this wildcard matchup as the Cowboys and the San Francisco 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.000 forty nine ers, a classic matchup that I know you 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.080 guys talked about a death yesterday, But anything stick out 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:20.839 to you? And what Jerry said, Mick, Well, he said, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.440 you know, I thought he started off basically pointing out that, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:32.520 you know, he appreciated what happened, what the Cowboys did, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.320 Like the game on Saturday night had nothing to do 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.800 with what Philadelphia did or didn't. It had everything to 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:45.240 do he said about us, how we executed, how our 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:51.600 offensive line played, how different individuals executed, the defense performing, 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.960 and it was just about us and he appreciated how 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.680 that turned out. And then obviously move on to San 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.560 Francisco and you know, and I think one of the 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.599 questions was, you know, would you have preferred to play 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.719 somebody else? And he said, hey, these are the playoffs. Um, 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:15.400 everything's razor thin out there. Uh so you gotta go play. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:18.560 You can't worry about who you're playing. You gotta go play. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.000 And you know he's exactly right, there's there's no cream 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:24.920 puffs out there. You know, they didn't they didn't give 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:29.080 the Cowboys the opportunity to play Houston. Uh so, you know, 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.920 just get ready, buckled down and see what your best 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.760 can do against their best. Hey, hey, cows over here 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:40.919 laughing at you, your Humphrey Bogart era of of of 0:05:40.920 --> 0:05:46.320 of language here. Yeah, I can see the headlines now. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:50.359 Mickey Spatt says the Houston Texans are puff. Well, you 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.920 know what, they got one coming because a couple of 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:55.960 years ago, when they were in the playoffs and the 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:59.640 Cowboys weren't on their website, they posted a picture of 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:05.719 an Wow, that's some shade. That some shade, that's I think. 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.480 You know what, if you're in the playoffs every year, 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:11.160 then go at it, right, but let's not get in 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:15.200 one time and then stop throwing itself that's what you 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:19.000 gotta do, though. You gotta establish your dominance when every 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:20.840 time you can, and I guess that was the one 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.400 time that the Texans were able to do that. I 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.520 don't know. I don't know why this turned into bashing 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.040 the Texans in the away from that, because I want 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:32.279 to get on how the Cowboys are in Unison in 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:35.719 regards to the message. Uh, sometimes Jerry can go off 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.920 spags a little bit to where, you know, hey, hey Jerry, 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:42.240 maybe you shouldn't have said that, you know, bulletin board 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.880 material or even sometimes it's just a little bit over 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:47.280 the top. But right now, what he said, I think 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.360 it was very accurate because the Cowboys got and I 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.839 don't want to call this just a good practice because 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.720 like you said that, there are no cream puffs spags, 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.200 but you do you did have a team that just 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:00.880 had no idea what was going on and they were 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:04.000 totally outmatched. Now, as you look at some of the 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:07.279 games that have gone on this entire year, you cannot 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:12.640 predict anything. I'm not taking any team or win for granted. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.640 So when it's all said and done, I got the Jets. 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.720 They came out and they beat a couple of good teams. 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:20.680 I don't feel like going off all the upsets that 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:26.520 happened throughout this entire season. I mean, unpredictable, dumbfounded upsets 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.280 such as Cowboys dinfit. We always remember those, But then 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.560 you have Tampaloos to the Saints twice. You know, you 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.440 have some things that went on that lets you know 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.400 you can't take any wins for granted. And the way 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.520 we played the other day, that's how we should have played. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.760 That's how we should have beat them. So I don't 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:46.160 look at this as anything as a ladder move. I 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.560 looked at it as an improvement that we needed to 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.920 make because offensively we haven't been consistent. We still haven't 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.600 shown to be consistent. But I'd rather go out the 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.000 way we went the way we did in that game 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:00.480 than looking at how we went out as the game 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.080 before that. Yeah, and that's a great point because Mickey 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.120 very easily could have turned into the Cowboys matching the 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.920 Eagles energy of saying, you know what, you're not playing 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:12.400 Jalen Hurts, you're not playing all these starters that were 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.040 on the COVID list. There's they're taking a week off. 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.560 Nick Sirianni even said it they have earned a chance 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:20.240 to take the week off. And that's not the way 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.160 the Cowboys looked at it. The Cowboys looked at it 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:25.120 as an opportunity to gather their momentum, to kind of 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.920 get their feet underneath them. After a loss against Arizona 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.000 and Mickey, they went out and executed, checking the boxes 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.600 of health and execution. Along the way to improving their seating. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.120 They broke a few records, said a couple of personal records. 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.160 I mean, come on, you can't. You can't beat that. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.000 I mean, that was the game to do it. We 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.640 beat them the way they should have been beaten. And 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.160 to me, you can't. You can't be down on that. 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:50.000 And let me go further. I saw Church coming in here, Spags, 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:54.600 and we were talking about how everyone is doubting the Cowboys, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:59.320 and I look at it like this. You've got a 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.360 lot of form players, they're a pundits now, and those 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.679 former players, for some reason, all of them think we 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.560 should have drafted them, Spags, all of them that I 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.520 should have played with a Cowboys who I didn't get. 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.440 Drut Cowboys. I'm gonna go work. So they take that 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.760 energy as players onto the booth. Right, So now all 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.199 you get is oh the Cowboys, this Cowboys better look out. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.559 Nobody says Tampa better lookout. Yeah, you know, they played 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:26.560 like crap many times this year. Nobody said, hey, Green 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:29.000 Baby Baby should look out. You know, nobody talks about 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.520 the Rams need to look out. Come on the way 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:35.080 Matthew Stafford has been so inconsistent. Everyone's given getting the 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.120 benefit of the doubt. But the Cowboys, and I think 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:41.440 they always look forward to the moment when we crafted 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:45.199 a bit. Well, and here's the other thing. And you know, 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.880 I was talking with the guys during my segment on 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:51.320 the fan this morning, and you know, we were talking 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.800 about their physical defensive front. Talked a lot about Deebo 0:09:55.960 --> 0:10:00.000 Samuel and what he brings to the table. And I said, yeah, 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.720 and guess what San Francisco's talking about. They're talking about, Oh, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:08.160 can we block Randy Gregory and DeMarcus Lawrence and what 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:12.920 do we do with Micah Parsons. Yeah, so they got 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:16.160 things to worry about. Two uh so, And I understand 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.000 how it works because we see other teams and it's like, Okay, 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:23.360 there's their strong points. Well they see the Cowboys strong 0:10:23.440 --> 0:10:26.600 points too. And the fact that I bet They're not 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:31.439 just dismissing. Oh it was Washington, Oh it was Philadelphia, 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.840 they put fifty points on them. No, they're looking at 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.960 in two the last three games, this team scored fifty points, 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.320 and that's what they're worried about, along with the other 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:46.000 things that this team can do. Like the Cowboys three receivers. 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:50.280 You know, I understand that how good their defensive front 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.880 is and that makes up for maybe what they have 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.560 in the secondary. But Hooper Cup was running through them 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.160 left to night, right, So now are they sitting there going, oh, 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.920 are we worried about those three receivers the Cowboys have 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:08.720 and that tight end who nearly And I didn't double 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.720 check this what Schultz's final numbers were. I've got him 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:20.120 right here. He ended up the second leading receivers seventy 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.080 eight yards, I mean, seventy eight catches for eight hundred 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:27.120 and eight yards and eight touchdowns. Will we worry about Kittle? Right? Yeah, 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:29.800 well he's got seventy one catches for nine hundred and 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.920 ten yards and six touchdowns. So are they sitting there 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:37.920 worried about Dalton Schultz? I think they should be right, 0:11:38.600 --> 0:11:41.120 And so it works both ways. And I know this 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.360 always happens in the in the playoffs, you know, and 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:47.079 a lot of times everybody looks at the other team 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:51.520 and it's almost like they romanticize about those players and 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.679 they don't realize on the other side, they're thinking about 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.040 what the Cowboys have and how do we stop them. 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.480 Were you talking about Scholtz, I mean, were you not 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:04.040 talking about a necessarily dynamic type of player, but the 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:10.640 consistency that he's possessed, as well as his ability to 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.360 get Dak out of trouble. Because when you're playing against 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.160 that two men, which is they're going to start off 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.440 on us, whether two man or some type of man 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.160 to man, then it's always the tight end that has 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.000 the best chances to get open down the middle. That's 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.559 why tight ends were created, because wide receivers can't get open. 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:33.839 And whenever that happens, that's what Scholtz does. He has 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.240 tried and true with that and he has come through 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.240 for us in moving the chains as well as working 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.959 well in the red zone. So yeah, when he's on 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.800 and when Dak is on with him, when they're connecting, 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.480 I think they're a heck of a duo to deal with. 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.840 And just based off of the numbers that Mickey just 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:53.240 gave comparing him to George Kittle, who is widely renowned 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.480 as one of the top tight ends in all of football, 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.120 you can see that Schultz has more receptions but less 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.120 yardage because he's not that big play for He's not 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.240 going to have the yacka that's not his game. But 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.680 that's right. You talk about the number of receptions he has, 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.200 the amount of targets he has in the red zone 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.480 eight touchdowns to go along with what he's done this year, 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.480 because not only is he getting open inside ten yards 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.920 toward the first down marker as a safety blanket to 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.400 Dak Prescott, he's finding himself open in the red zone. 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.080 And he's only the second tight end in Cowboys history, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.680 along with Jason Witten, to hit that eight hundred yard marks. So, Mickey, 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.200 I think you're you're bringing up a fantastic point of 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.480 Now it's a pick your poison sort of mentality for 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.600 San Francisco, where the Cowboys of course have that same 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.920 mindset looking at their opponents. But if you're San Francisco, 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.440 who do you look at first and say that's going 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:48.600 to be our biggest challenge? Yeah? No, absolutely, And I'm 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:50.440 gonna just say this off top of my head. I 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.640 hadn't done the research, but I'm guessing the Cowboys haven't 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.400 had many, if any tight ends not named Witten end 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.319 up with. I think it's only him and Schultz, I believe. 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:05.439 I think it's Witnes Schultz. Yeah. So yeah, so when 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.880 the Cowboys have been the Cowboys have been blessed with 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.160 amazing tight ends since the inception of the Dallas Cares. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.960 That's saying a lot that that's that's that's that's tall 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:22.760 what my dad used to say, that's tall cotton. Right there. Boy, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.200 that's a good one. I don't like what were you 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.640 saying there? You know what? The other thing I just noticed, 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:33.040 and I haven't looked up their record calling, but the 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:39.960 referee cruise for this game have been named Cowboys have 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:45.160 Alex Kemp's crew. Uh in this game. I'm glad we're 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:48.120 delving into this, especially after last week the last couple 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.600 of weeks past. Go ahead. Yeah, And and actually Jerry 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.720 brought it up. He didn't know the crew, but he 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.720 thought the guys that did the game last week did 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.520 a really good job because they let him play. Yeah, 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.960 because we having maybe ready to go homes bags right, 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.320 they didn't want to call anything right in our day 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:09.360 this game. But I just noticed Alex Kemp. He's eight 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.080 years uh in the league. Uh and I think he's 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:19.840 four four time head referee. So he's got the Cowboys game. Uh, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:23.280 they've got uh, it's it's a it's it's a somewhat 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:28.200 young crew. There's only one guy other than Kemp. So 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:32.120 Kemp's the eight year veteran. Uh. One guy wolf Sped 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:38.560 Uh I'm um he no, I'm sorry, uh, Jim Mellow 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:47.320 he's the uh d G what is d G Stanford? Okay, 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:52.240 thank you wait j Yeah, he's been in the league eighteen. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.080 Nobody else has been in more than six other than 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:00.920 the head referee. So it's a relatively young crew right now. 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:04.160 I could care less about what how young they are. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.880 I want to know what their propensity is spags. Okay, 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:09.240 I got you. How about this? They've had one call 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.600 it up, Kyle beat me to the PA. I got you. Yeah. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.240 So they've had one game with the Dallas Cowboys this year. 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.560 It was the first Washington football team game where they 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:21.960 were in Washington, and it was the twenty seven yeah, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:24.920 twenty seven twenty game, and there was only seven penalties 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.960 for sixty five yards in that game against the Cowboys. 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:31.760 Seven for sixty for Washington Maryland in Maryland, Yes, in 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.560 that FedEx field. So it's about as even as you 0:16:34.600 --> 0:16:37.080 can potentially get. It's not one of these big games 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.280 like the Raiders or the Chiefs or the game against 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:44.600 the Cardinals where the Cowboys had their their had their 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.880 reserves about their referee. So right now you feel pretty 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.760 good about the way that this this officiating crew is 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.200 holding things up. I just don't like when when when 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:57.000 officials become the conversation part of the game, they just 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.680 shouldn't be part of the conversation. And anytime you do 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.400 that as a group, uh that that lead referee or 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.320 whatever you call them spags. He needs to tone that 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:08.880 down before it gets out of hand, you know, especially 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:11.240 when you look at what it might be looking like 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.600 at halftime. Uh, you know what, what what are we doing? 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.479 Are we throwing too many Let's take a look at 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.560 and review, guys, because you could see some of these 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.880 things happening and you couldn't stop him. To me, as 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.000 a referee, you're a head referee, then you need to 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.160 you need to handle that and look guys, we can't. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:31.600 We are we are becoming part of the script and 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.040 that's not fair to the fans of the players. So 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.520 I noticed all also on the on the crew, and 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:42.760 I'm surprised this happened. Uh, former Cowboy defensive back Nate 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.720 joneses the field judge. Wow. Wow, I didn't know that. 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:51.840 I didn't how many former players are referees. Uh spags Ah, 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.040 that's a good question. I never when he did it. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.000 I remember doing a story on him and he was 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:01.080 like one of maybe two that were in the league 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.439 that had been former players. Um, they've listened to him 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:07.320 and this is what he had been doing before. Uh, 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.520 he kind of got into the officiating thing. He's a 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:13.959 he's a firefighter e MT. And he was doing that 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.680 locally here. Okay, so wait, so he's from Dallas, Yeah, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.280 he lives there. He's he's from the he went to Rutgers. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:25.160 Uh did he played for Cowboys? He played for the Cowboys. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:33.080 Did we treat him well? Yeah? Right? Yea. Is it 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:36.920 a good relationship because that's a big question here. Who 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:42.960 quit who? He's a really good dude. That's good. Great 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.320 to hear, that's a matter of fact. England he's the one. 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.040 He's the one that knocked knocked right far out of 0:18:50.080 --> 0:18:55.880 that game that year Aaron Rodgers started his career. WHOA, well, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.400 I guess thanks for that. I don't know, all right. 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.920 One another thing on the referee crew before we take 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:05.439 our first break home win percentage. That's something that you 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:08.640 were you were curious about with this crew this season, 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:11.560 thirty one percent of the time the home team is one, 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:16.320 which is like twenty points below the season average. The 0:19:16.359 --> 0:19:20.200 season average is fifty one, should be this is thirty one. 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.800 But it's hard because this is an all star crew. 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.280 By that's true, it's different completely. He has there's only 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:30.080 two guys that are on Kemp's crew on it all year, right, 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:32.760 and it's the replay official And I don't know what 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.359 the r A is replay assistant. I U, yeah, I 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.640 think it's probably replay assistant. So those are the only 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.240 two guys that were on his crew. The rest are 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:43.600 from basically all other crew. Well, well, Chris, that that 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:45.800 means that the bombs that were the one flags on us, 0:19:45.840 --> 0:19:48.600 they didn't make the team. Oh no, yeah, you get 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:52.520 you get raided. You here two grading and a three 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.520 rating and they grade you so I don't want to 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.600 see the guys from the Raiders game and Cardinals game. Yeah, 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.960 they've thrown or at least his crew has thrown twenty 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:08.320 five more flags on home teams than road teams in 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:12.480 over the course of the season. Maybe so, But like 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:14.439 Chris said, we can kind of throw a little bit 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:16.480 of that out the window. It's just the head official 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.800 that all these stats are on. So great point from 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:21.159 Chris Bean. All right, when we come back, let's talk 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.440 about what challenges do the San Francisco forty nine ers 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:27.560 present and how are the Cowboys looking at things. We'll 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:30.520 also talk about some of the offensive and defensive coordinator 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.600 news surrounding Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore when we returned 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:37.480 with more mix shots. 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Everson Walls, Mickey Spagnola. 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.320 I'm Kyle Yeoman's Mickey, I'm wearing my white T shirt 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.520 as underneath my navy jacket. I gotta take my jacket off. 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.840 Everson's wearing his white You're on the phone, so you 0:23:26.880 --> 0:23:28.399 can lie to me if you want to. Are you 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:32.000 wearing your white out today? I am not wearing a 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:35.560 whitet out, and I'm not kind of a grayish white 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:40.960 tent with a Cowboys star on it and half committed. 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.320 That sounds like you have committed there. You know. I 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.359 do respect the fact that he didn't lie there because 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.520 he could have. Nobody sees him right now show, so 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.760 he doesn't have to that's true, but hey, he was. 0:23:51.000 --> 0:23:53.159 He was an honest man about it, so I was 0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:56.880 dressed for success until we couldn't get the video. I'm 0:23:56.920 --> 0:24:00.520 sure you look phenomenal me as always, all right, Macky. 0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:02.920 You mentioned it the other way around, how teams are 0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.320 looking at the Cowboys and they're saying, oh my gosh, 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:09.800 there's Michael Parsons, there's DeMarcus Lawrence, there's Randy Gregory, and 0:24:09.920 --> 0:24:12.200 then there's this offense that's put up fifty points in 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:15.119 two of the last three games. What are the Cowboys 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:18.639 looking at with San Francisco on the other side of 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.159 the line of scrimmage when they are game planning how 0:24:21.280 --> 0:24:24.800 to slow down this forty nine ers squad, Well, they're 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:28.840 looking at Deebo Samuel to start with, right, I think 0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.520 it starts there. It's probably the second next guy and 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:37.479 maybe the third next guy. He was phenomenal coming out 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:41.399 of South Carolina, right. I saw enough of him beating 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.720 up on Missouri for three years or however many years 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.280 he was there. They just couldn't stop him, and I 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:50.879 wanted the Cowboys to be able to get him. So 0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.280 this was before they got Cedee Lamb, and I think 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:59.480 he went the second round maybe that year, and it 0:24:59.600 --> 0:25:03.600 was like, ah, he's gone, but check this out. So 0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:07.640 he's their second leading rusher fifty nine carries for three 0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:12.280 hundred and sixty five yards and eight touchdowns, and as 0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:16.080 a receiver he leads with seventy seven catches one thousand, 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:20.600 four hundred and five yards and six more touchdowns. So 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.800 if you add that together his yardage from the line 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.960 of scrimmage one thousand and seven hundred and seventy yards 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:33.720 and fourteen touchdowns, they better know where he is every 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.320 time they line up defensively because if you go back 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:40.679 and watch the Rams game, he linds up wide at 0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:43.920 wide receiver, he lines up at in the slot, he 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:47.520 lines up at running back, and they will hand him 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.200 the ball. They try to do everything they can to 0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:54.639 get the ball in his hands, and once he gets it, 0:25:55.040 --> 0:26:00.280 he is a load. He's a little bit thicker, maybe 0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:04.040 stronger Cede Lamb, but the same type of is a 0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:07.560 way thicker and stronger than Lamb. Yes, but it's the 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.480 same type of it's the same type of guy makes 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:13.480 great catches and once he gets in the in the 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:17.359 open field, you're in trouble because he's gonna break your ankle. 0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.600 And he's a strong, strong runner. You could tell he's 0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.720 got some running back in his background spags. But also 0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.439 I think I heard this morning, Uh he's only second 0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.600 behind Chase if I'm mistaken. With the Bengals and yards 0:26:30.680 --> 0:26:34.280 per catch, I think he's up in the seventeen point 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:37.720 something yard average. And so he's gonna beat you short 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.320 and he's gonna have the yak and he can go 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:43.280 deep on you as well. So yeah, he's somebody that 0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.639 if you can just eliminate him, then you're going to 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.840 improve your chances of winning the game exponentially. He's not 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:54.840 only their most dangerous threat at wide receiver, he's not 0:26:54.960 --> 0:26:58.040 only now their most dangerous thread at running back, but 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.760 he also threw a touchdown pass in the final game 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:04.159 of the regular season as against the Los Angeles ram 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:06.520 So he can do a little bit of everything. So, Mick, 0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:09.159 when when you're talking about this guy, you have to 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:12.960 know where he is at all times. San Francisco Kyle Shanahan, 0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:15.199 they're going to run all this motion. They're gonna run 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.040 all this eyewash up in front, try and confuse the defense, 0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:20.639 and Deebo Samuel for the most part, him and Brandon 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:27.200 i Yuk another very shifty, speedy wide receiver on the outside. Balls. Yes, yes, 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.800 both of those guys are going to be tough matchups, 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.600 just based off of the speed that they have and 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.439 a lot of times they're already they're already running. They 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.440 already have that momentum because of the motion and what 0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.800 they're able to do prior to the snap. And then 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:45.440 not only that, but they want to run the football right. 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:49.480 They they look at it that we are going to 0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.920 run right at you, and they do it with a 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:55.200 lot of two tight ends. But you know, the other 0:27:55.320 --> 0:28:01.640 thing they use. How about this, they use a fullback right, wow, 0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:06.640 Yes it is Mick. He had it. And they will 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.879 line him up in a true fullback. They'll line him 0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:13.040 up off the line of scrimmage to either the left 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.119 or the right, behind the kind of offset from the 0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:21.040 offensive tackle. And he's a load and they use him. 0:28:21.640 --> 0:28:24.520 Uh you know, he's caught thirty passes. You know he 0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:29.800 rhymes me. Uh. Ever said you remember Rathman, the fullback 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:33.840 the Niners. Yes, I do, Yes, I do. That type 0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.240 of guy, right, he will. He will go through a 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.120 brick wall for you. But that's when that's when fullbacks 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.160 were the norm in an offense. Yes, he was just another, 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.120 just another fullback out there who was hardheaded and very determined. 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:50.600 Maybe I should have said Daryl Johnston too. Yeah, I 0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.920 guess you could have. That's very true. But but when 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.840 they run the ball and he's a load going into 0:28:56.920 --> 0:29:00.680 the middle. And by the way, I don't mean as 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.560 I think about it, Darille Johnson, I don't think he 0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:08.040 had ten catches his entire career. Oh no, he did. 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:14.320 Oh he may have had fifteen. Okay, I'm sorry. Now 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.440 you got Kyle looking at this up now, you go ahead, 0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:23.800 masty little book. Nineteen ninety four, Daryl Johnson had forty 0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.640 four catches. Wow, Troy must have been on a lot 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:31.080 of pressure that year. He had fifty ninety three. That's 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:32.840 when he missed all his blocks and then de Troy 0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:38.800 had no choice but to throw. You want to know 0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.000 what's funny about that, though, Mickey, is the fifty catches. 0:29:42.200 --> 0:29:45.000 Out of those fifty catches, there wasn't a single catch 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.920 for a first down. They were all undertake. I told 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:52.560 you he blew his blocking a sigmon, and Troy's like, hey, 0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.720 your man is hanging off of me. Take this thing. 0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:01.480 He had. He averaged seven point four yards of Come on, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:06.120 that's about it. That's funny. Whatever happened to the fullback man, 0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.200 I mean bringing back there's probably what two or thrifts 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:15.000 that college offense. Ye, college happened to the fullbacks and 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.479 they got rid of them, and they basically got rid 0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.200 of the tight end. Uh, And all of a sudden, 0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:25.000 it's four and five wide receivers out there. Can't you 0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:26.760 can't get rid of that tight end. Though. That tight 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.640 end is a stubborn creature, and I'm glad of that 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.640 because you right now, the tight ends, to me are 0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.760 the most impressive players on most professional football teams. I 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:39.640 mean they are the studs of the squad. You look 0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.080 at Andrews from from the Ravens, I mean that guy 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.120 right there. You look at the guy from the Pittsburgh Steelers, 0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.760 and not only do you have one, you've always got backup. 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:50.280 It looks just like him. So you know that's I 0:30:50.400 --> 0:30:52.760 love it. They've got big studs at tight end, and 0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.080 I hope they never go away. Well you know what 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.160 if we and I don't mean to swerve off to 0:30:57.240 --> 0:30:59.760 the side of the road, but the tight ends last 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.960 night in that National Championship game, they had a big 0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:06.160 hand in what went on. Yeah, and I And when 0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:08.560 I was watching that, I was going to ask Everson, 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.480 It's like, so kind of teams normally cover the tight 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:16.760 end because these days those types of tight ends they 0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:19.440 can't the running backs can't, I mean, the linebackers can't 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.480 run with them. Well, I would call the matchup that 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:25.120 we always had with tight ends was our strong safeties. 0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:28.640 And now you're talking to Tom lad your defense, Uh 0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.800 even you're even doing it with when I went to 0:31:31.400 --> 0:31:36.160 the Giants with Belichick, no your strong safety is gonna 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.680 handle that tight end. But let's just be real. We 0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.480 always made the tight end have to work his way 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.480 off the line of scrimmage. Nowadays they just don't do 0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:48.440 that necessarily, you know. I remember Dexter clean Scale, Charlie Waters. 0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:51.640 Uh god, I remember some great strong safeties that we had, 0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:55.400 Myron Guyton, Kenneth Jackson in New York. These guys had 0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:57.959 to match up with not just tight ends. We had 0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:01.200 strong safeties then Dvin Woodson, who could match up with 0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.880 wide receivers and running backs as well. So I don't 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.040 know what's going on with the strong safeties these days, 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.520 but that's the way it was back then. Probably no 0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:14.760 one wants to be a strong safety. They don't want 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.600 to have that type of assignment to deal with. And 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.000 that's where a guy, I guess, on the Cowboys side, 0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:21.960 I know what we do want to talk about that 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.600 that National Championship game last night, But on the Cowboys side, 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:26.680 that's where having a guy like Jaron Curse helps out 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:30.320 because he's a bigger bodied safety who has the coverage ability, 0:32:30.640 --> 0:32:33.440 has the physicality to be able to cover guys watching 0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:35.800 as well. I'm sorry Wilson as well, Yeah, both of 0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.520 those guys very athletic. But when we talk about jay 0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.360 Ron Curves, very special. I don't know what Minnesota was 0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:43.160 doing when they got rid of him, but you're looking 0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.240 at a guy. I mean that's He's one of the 0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:48.840 best hybrid players that you can kind of put your 0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.760 finger on right now. He's like a Tyler Matthew type 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.840 of guy. We don't use him necessarily like they would 0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.360 use Matthews, but he has that ability and he has 0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:02.680 made an extreme impact on this team. I would imagine 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.920 he's probably top five in tackles on this team by four. 0:33:06.360 --> 0:33:09.480 Oh no, he's number one. Wow. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. 0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:13.400 By the way, since you guys brought it up, we 0:33:13.840 --> 0:33:17.840 got a kind of an injury COVID update yesterday after 0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:23.000 our show obviously, and uh, you know, like everybody was 0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:27.440 coming back off COVID by Wednesday, and I think Jayron 0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.800 Curse might be the last one. I think Jerry and 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:34.400 Mike said they are hoping to have him back by Thursday. 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:36.880 Not only was he on COVID, but I think he 0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:42.080 had a growing or a hamstring going on. Yeah hamstring, Yeah, 0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:45.480 And so they're hoping to have him back by Thursday, 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:49.000 But the other COVID guys, Anthony Brown came off the 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.640 COVID list, so they're they're hopeful that when they hit 0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:57.479 the practice field tomorrow that they'll be nearly at full strength, 0:33:57.760 --> 0:34:01.120 with the exception of Jayron Curve. So your guys are 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:04.880 exactly right. And you know, and he owes dan Quinn 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:15.279 whatever he makes next year in free agency, Quinn, dan 0:34:15.400 --> 0:34:18.279 Quinn's working as curses agent. He's got a percentage of 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:22.920 the cut coming to godfather. He's his godfather. Somebody finally 0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.239 figured out how to use them. Right, Yeah, that's right, 0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:28.279 that's exactly right. That's a good transition piece. Let's take 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.480 our second break, because when we come back, let's talk 0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:34.840 about dan Quinn and some of the interview requests that 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:38.440 have been flying his direction. Is that a big distraction 0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:40.440 to the cowboys or is it really not that big 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:42.000 a deal at the moment. We'll answer that when we 0:34:42.080 --> 0:34:44.560 come back with more mix shots. The Medal of Honor 0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:47.840 is our country's highest military award for valor in combat. 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.200 More than forty million individuals have served in the armed 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.480 forces since the Civil War. 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Usually that's right around Super Bowl week, isn't it, 0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:36.719 Mick When they announced Walter Peyton Man of the Year. 0:37:37.320 --> 0:37:41.960 They do it that Saturday before the Super Bowl when 0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:44.759 they have the big show. Oh, the big honor show show. 0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:46.840 I was kind of I was at that show, but 0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.759 I was kind of listless. I just failed miserably in 0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.480 making the hall of face me to the Honors telling us, Hey, 0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:56.400 we gotta get ready. You know, you gotta go to 0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.839 the honor show. I'm like, man, you can't want it anymore. Yeah, 0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.279 we're a little pissed up here. We went to the show. 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.719 We all our lips were hanging in our laps. We 0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:10.080 would pissed. Man. So that that list of the running 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:13.439 backs with tight ends, yeah, I mean touchdowns, I'm sorry. 0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.120 Where was Dan Reeves? Oh? So we were talking in 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:20.560 the break and we were talking about most receiving touchdowns 0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.200 for a running back and a fullback for those of 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:26.520 you listening, and we were talking about how actually Daryl 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.240 Johnston and Dan Reeves had the most. Dan Reeves had seventeen, 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.880 Darryl Johnston had fourteen. Who did you ask about? You 0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.680 ask about Reeves? Just now? No? Yeah, So so I 0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.279 looked because I thought I remembered this after looking at 0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:43.120 his stats after he passed away last week, and in 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:48.480 his first three years he had fifteen touchdown receptions until 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.160 he tore up his knee. Wow, so that's just in 0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:56.840 three years. Three years. Yeah, Tom Landry always had certain 0:38:56.960 --> 0:39:00.400 players that he wanted to be in certain pos positions. 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.200 He would draw a place for players. I don't know 0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.200 if that was an ego thing for him to where 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:09.080 it's like, well, I'm picking you because I think only 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.759 you can do this when clearly everyone else could have 0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:13.680 done it could have probably done. But but you know, 0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:17.080 player coaches have their favorites, and Tom land You always 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.120 had a certain type of player for a certain type 0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:23.040 of play in a certain situation, and that was pretty 0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:25.840 consistent throughout his entire coaching career. You know what, that 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.840 sounds a lot like what's that Dan Quinn? On the 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.600 defensive side of things with Michael Parsons in company, I 0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:34.239 think That's a great transition because that's what dan Quinn 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:37.160 has done all year along, right, Nick, Yeah, No, he 0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:41.640 has figured out roles for guys that he could sit 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.040 them into what he's doing. Instead of saying, this is 0:39:45.120 --> 0:39:47.800 what I do, now, let me see who can do that. No, 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:51.480 he looked and saw what guys could do and said, okay, 0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:53.839 I'm going to do that. And that's what he did 0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.920 with jay Ron Curse, That's what he did with Michael Parsons. 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.359 That's what he did with Layton Vanderesh. Yeah, and all 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:02.680 the players that he brought over from the Falcons as well. 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:09.240 The seat Yeah. Absolutely. And by the way, speaking of fullbacks, 0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:11.440 when's the last time you saw three hundred and sixty 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:14.399 pounder line up at fullback like he did last night? 0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.879 I'm the goal line other than Connor McGovern, I guess 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:24.600 Connor's not even three sixty. Then nobody got pushing the 0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:27.560 one guy last night on Georgia. They said he lost 0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:31.000 forty pounds, he was still sixty and he ran a 0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:36.680 four sixty pounds. I'm like, man, I told my son, 0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:39.799 this guy runs faster than I ever ran and he's 0:40:39.880 --> 0:40:43.920 three sixty. That was unbelievable. Talking about the Georgia Bulldogs. 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.880 Number ninety five kind of reminds me of Lakwan McGowan. 0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:49.600 You remember that name at all? Probably not. He was 0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:52.479 the Baylor tight end during like the Art Briles runs 0:40:52.560 --> 0:40:55.160 where he was three eighty and he played tight end 0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.560 at three eighty were number eighty and everything. I remember him. 0:40:58.600 --> 0:41:02.839 He had a touchdown to Coton ball Michigan h where now, 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.839 Oh I don't even know. Yeah, no idea, Hopefully it's okay. 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:08.600 He was a legend and they put two of their 0:41:08.719 --> 0:41:11.440 guys on their goal line offense. What is fullback of? 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.640 What is sight in? And guess where the guy ran 0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:18.160 right between the Yeah, that was a fun game, Church 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.120 coming out on top of LL tell you, I tell 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:25.879 this bad right? No, I got it right. You guys 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:33.680 were piggybacking, okay, Alabama? Yeah first, yes, exactly, So all right, 0:41:34.080 --> 0:41:36.200 nicky real quickly give us an update on what you've 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:40.919 heard abround the offensive and defensive coordinators Dan Quinn Kellen Moore, 0:41:41.239 --> 0:41:43.000 both of which I feel like every time I opened 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:45.439 up my phone, I get a notification that a team 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:48.640 is requesting to interview one of those two guys. What 0:41:48.760 --> 0:41:52.320 have you heard the latest well, I think the latest 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:56.600 was Denver. Right, Miami just got on the phone. Miami 0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:59.839 just did it too for both of them, Right, dan 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:04.439 Quinn for Miami is all I see. I could see 0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:09.960 dan Quinn a pretty good fit in Denver. I just 0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:14.880 think that. But again, so these guys want to interview him, Right, 0:42:15.400 --> 0:42:18.600 But if I'm dan Quinn and I know what I 0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.800 went through as a head coach, I'm gonna be pretty 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:25.319 picky on the situation I get myself into the second time, 0:42:25.360 --> 0:42:28.400 all right, you know. And I think Mike McCarthy probably 0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.600 was the same way. Yeah, you know, I'm I'm gonna 0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.880 get into a situation where there's a good general manager, 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:42.080 the ownership is strong, and it's a it's a good organization. 0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:44.759 I think those are the things that you don't just 0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:47.960 go to go right. You better pick someplace where you 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:51.919 fit in awfully well. And Kyle we We I talked 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.320 about this. I believe it was last week when we 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.160 talked about Sean Payton when he had an interview with 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.600 the Raiders and he just didn't feel comfortable in two 0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:04.160 thousand and five taking that job. I think he was 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.600 a little iffy on the quarterback situation. And you know, 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.759 you had to be a certain person to go in 0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.480 there with Al Davis. Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:17.560 when you talk to Al, that's a whole different field. Yeah, exactly. 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:21.200 And so he feel like you're being threatened doing the interview. Yeah, 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.359 and he turned the job down, and everybody's like, oh, 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.440 you can't turn Al Davis down. You're you're committing you know, 0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:30.239 professional suicide. And then the next year he took the 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:33.560 Saints job. In the rest is history. So I think 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.399 if you're you know, especially if you're getting the second chance, 0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.359 you just don't take anything. I think I'd be pretty 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.440 particular and where I went and who I worked with, 0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.600 and I would darn sure make sure that either I 0:43:46.840 --> 0:43:49.760 have a quarterback or I've got a high draft choice 0:43:49.800 --> 0:43:51.480 to get one. Now, he was he was in a 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.120 great place with Atlanta, you know, I mean, the ideal 0:43:55.239 --> 0:43:59.000 situation for him, quarterback situation. He had a defense that 0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:00.640 he could walk around, just like he's doing with the 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.560 Cowboys right now. Obviously he went to the Super Bowl away, 0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.160 we remember what happened there, But that was a great 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:10.080 situation for him there. He's obviously he's very cagy about 0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.280 the choices that he makes and he won't do anything 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:15.600 foolish at all. He's too old for that. Number one, 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:19.239 it's too accomplished. And it also, Yeah, he had a 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:21.960 great quote yesterday about you know, I like what I'm 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.960 doing here and I'm trying to remember how he put it, 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.920 and he goes, I'm damn sure going to do this 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.399 or that it was. It was. It was pretty good 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.279 response to uh doing interviews, because he sounds like he 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.800 would prefer, you know, if he's gonna do him or 0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:39.239 if he's gonna let it out that he's doing him, 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.400 that he wants to do it at the end of 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.359 the season, not in the middle of his playoff run. 0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:47.960 And maybe Kelly Moore is not in that same scenario. 0:44:48.120 --> 0:44:50.680 Maybe he's not in the same position. Kellen may take 0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:54.440 these interviews here. He already took the Jacksonville interview, and 0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.000 because he is the younger guy has not been at 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:01.200 head coach previously, he needs to get every avenue that 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.759 he could be in order to be that head coach. 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.879 But how much of a distraction is before we wrap 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:08.239 things up, how much of a distraction could that be? 0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:11.160 Mickey for a locker room like this, because Dan Quinn 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.960 is making a stand saying I don't want to do 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:17.520 this until after the playoff run is over, whereas Kelln 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.760 Moore has already taken an interview and is probably thinking 0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.879 about a couple of these other spots as well. Yeah, 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:27.080 And I think as long as you're doing virtually, uh 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:30.200 you know, at some point at night, you're done working 0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.759 right good point and it's like or you know, the 0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:36.600 night before a game, when everything's settled. I don't think 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:41.360 that affects these guys. Just schedule it out. It's just 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:44.719 schedule it out. Yeah, I mean, it's not like you're 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:48.520 flying somewhere to go beat people. And you also have 0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:52.240 to understand these teams are going to interview ten people 0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.960 for the job, right, They're not going to just interview 0:45:55.040 --> 0:45:58.120 one or two and then make a decision. Uh. You know, 0:45:58.400 --> 0:46:01.120 it's like what the Cowboys did with my well no, 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:08.640 when they hired when they hired, when they hired Wade Phillips. 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.120 They must be interviewed ten different guys. There you go. 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.120 And a lot of that what Jerry was doing was 0:46:15.239 --> 0:46:20.640 picking other people's mind about his situation, his roster. He 0:46:20.800 --> 0:46:23.040 wanted to see what they thought of what he had 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:27.160 and maybe where they were going right and so, and 0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:30.560 remember this was after Bill Parcels finally got him to 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:36.080 two consecutive winning seasons for the first time. Well, it 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.960 would have been they had winning seasons in five o 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.000 six they were both nine and seven, right, So you 0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:48.319 would have to go back to ninety five ninety six 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.319 for the last time they had consecutive winning seasons because 0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.200 they had a losing season in ninety seven, they had 0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:57.840 a winning season in ninety eight they were five hundred 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:00.560 and ninety nine, and then the three in a row 0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:03.800 five and eleven seasons, a winning season, a losing season, 0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.040 and then those two winning seasons. So yeah, I think 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:10.560 I'll put that on my mind. Spects tried to block 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.960 that one out, block it away. Well, I'm glad to 0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:15.719 hear that. I'm glad to hear that. You guys don't 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:17.600 think it's that big of a deal, because a lot 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.840 of Cowboys fans are a little up in arms, and 0:47:19.880 --> 0:47:23.640 I think it's because they're they're safeguarding what they see 0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.840 as a great situation with Dan Quinn as the defensive coordinator, 0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:30.120 Kelly Moore as the OC. I think at some point 0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:31.560 you got to look at it and say you're in 0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:34.719 a great spot to be in because they've been so successful. 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.719 Because they're so so I don't finish it out. They're 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.600 gonna finish it out. I think that's either way. Isn't 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:40.719 worried about it. They're gonna finish the season. Yeah, they're 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.840 not gonna like to like, college's not gonna go away 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.480 because we got not gonna pull a Lincoln Riley before 0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.399 the al that's not happening. We're gonna stay intact until 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.719 this thing is done. Yeah, So that's good, you know, 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:52.879 And I thought Jerry put it a good way. He said, 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:57.160 he said, you know, when he goes, you know, he said, 0:47:57.239 --> 0:48:01.200 rest assured, he goes when you're sat successful. And he 0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.879 was talking about how the NFL is kind of Bill. 0:48:04.200 --> 0:48:07.600 He said, when you're successful, it works to the team 0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:10.520 that aren't successful meeting, they're going to come to the 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:14.400 team that is successful and try to hire somebody and 0:48:14.480 --> 0:48:17.440 he goes. And then on the other hand, when you're unsuccessful, 0:48:17.760 --> 0:48:20.239 it works that the team's advantage to be able to 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:23.600 take advantage of the teams that are successful, and y'all, 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:26.239 and that's kind of how the schedule goes, right, you know, 0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:30.000 that's how it works out. Gotta take advantage whenever you 0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.560 have that window of opportunity. But that's it for us 0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:36.520 here on Mick Shots Today. Mickey, are you back tomorrow? 0:48:37.320 --> 0:48:45.200 I maybe back tomorrow and appreciate you. Or I don't 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.359 think I'm back tomorrow. I haven't been told I'm back. 0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:50.480 I believe Bill will be here Tomorrow's But yeah for 0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:53.200 Everson Walls for Mickey's back, Nola for Chris Beam, I'm 0:48:53.239 --> 0:48:55.640 Kyle Yeoman's filling in for Bill Jones. 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