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Speaker 1: Hmmm.

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Speaker 2: My husband's ex wore her wedding dress to my wedding

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Speaker 2: because I asked her to.

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Speaker 1: It's the bride for thee and the bride for me.

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Speaker 1: Ooh who.

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Speaker 2: Last weekend, my husband twenty seven male and I thirty female.

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Speaker 1: Got married.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, ingrats. It was a great wedding and I had

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Speaker 2: a great time leading up to it.

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Speaker 1: There's only been one thing that's left a sour taste

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Speaker 2: It's all the sour candy I ate. Oh. By the way,

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Speaker 2: this comes from Wedding Dress Throw eleven and if you

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Speaker 2: slash Okay Storytime supreddit. So growing up, I always wanted

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Speaker 2: a big princess wedding. I know some people see those

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Speaker 2: as tacky and immature, but it was always my dream.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you deserve your dream, Upey.

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Speaker 1: As part of this, the theme of the wedding was

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Speaker 1: ballroom nice.

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Speaker 2: Just a room for ball I feel like I feel

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Speaker 2: like that's being like. My flavor for this cake is vanilla,

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Speaker 2: that's what it gives. And I told everyone to wear

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Speaker 2: the nicest things they owned, and told the women in

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Speaker 1: Quote unquote put some ice us in the chat.

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Speaker 2: I even went as far as telling the married women

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Speaker 2: to wear their wedding dresses. Okay, this is an interesting

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Speaker 2: thing to do.

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Speaker 1: We're all getting married.

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Speaker 2: We are getting married.

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Speaker 1: We are getting married, all fifty of us. I do, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: we do. Oh god. I didn't care about being out dressed.

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Speaker 2: Instead, all I wanted was to fulfill the aesthetic in

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Speaker 2: my head that I had for the wedding, which included

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Speaker 2: everyone else looking nothing less than extravagant and no before

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Speaker 2: people ask, I don't regret my decision. It was really

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Speaker 2: special to see my mom, aunts and bridesmaids all in

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Speaker 2: their own dresses on my big day. It kind of

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Speaker 2: felt like they were passing the torch onto me. Then

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that experienence. Now onto my husband's friend.

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Speaker 2: My husband has this friend I will call Kate twenty

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Speaker 2: seven female. Kate is my husband's childhood friend and first love,

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Speaker 2: first love is at the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh no, does Kate have a wedding dress?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Oh oh, it's too perfect. My husband comes from

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Speaker 2: a small town and the majority of his friends he's

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Speaker 2: known since adolescens, and their senior year of high school,

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Speaker 2: Kate and my husband got engaged. There we go so

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Speaker 2: ex fiance too. So it's an ex fiance at your wedding.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna probably wear the dress she bought to marry

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Speaker 2: your husband. That's gonna be totally fun. Ooh fun, right,

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Speaker 2: how do I feel about that?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Do we love that? Is that the greatest thing ever?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Now, this is kind of normal where they're from

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Speaker 2: to get engaged in high school a senior year. They

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Speaker 2: called off the wedding and never went.

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Speaker 1: Through with it. It was mutual.

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Speaker 2: They felt they were growing up too fast and wanted

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Speaker 2: end of the relationship, but they stayed friends. I knew

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Speaker 2: this information prior to getting with my husband and never

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Speaker 2: had a problem or felt jealous because I'm friends with

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Speaker 2: a few exes myself. In fact, two of my exes.

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Speaker 1: Were invited to our wedding.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're having an ex off who can invite the

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Speaker 2: most exes and ex fiance They just got confused about

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Speaker 2: what X mass was supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Oh God is mass?

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Speaker 2: No? Mass isn't about weddings, is it. I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: our resident Catholic.

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Speaker 1: That's a choice. Yeah, mass is just true. There's no

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Speaker 2: Wait what there's not a mass for weddings.

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Speaker 3: There is the ceremony is the well they called that

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Speaker 3: a mask. No it's not well no, yeah, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: Okay, I was trying to see if my joke made

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Speaker 2: No, because I said an X mass like the mass,

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Speaker 2: like the mass being because there's all these ex'es and

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Speaker 2: it was at their wedding. But a wedding's not a mass,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know that because I'm not the pope.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, all right, it is a ceremony in the church

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, point being, what are we doing? Dakota is

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Speaker 1: Why are we making our wedding on extreme mode? Why

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Speaker 2: We have to invite all of our exes, Dakota, that's

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Speaker 2: the only attendees available.

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Speaker 2: That's all we're doing. One of my exes was my

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Speaker 2: bridemaid I'm by, and the other was invited as a

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Speaker 2: problem with Kate being my husband's ex, but I have

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Speaker 2: had a problem with Kate as a person, as she

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Speaker 2: is kind of witchy and gossips like she is still

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Speaker 2: a month into our relationship, she confessed to my husband

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Speaker 2: responded that they had already tried and it didn't work.

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Speaker 2: just starting out, and she owed it to herself to

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Speaker 2: see if there was anything still there before it was

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Speaker 2: too late. Okay, sorry I was. I was like, she

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Speaker 2: with you, right, Yeah, not just like oh, like that's

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Speaker 2: just Kate being Kate.

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Speaker 3: It's just.

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Speaker 2: Why are we making our wedding about everyone we used

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Speaker 2: to date? Because it's got to be Chahan and Kate

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Speaker 2: plus eight of your exes two thousands TV reference that's

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Speaker 2: mine early two thousands Lifestyle TV Shemstone. However, after she

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Speaker 2: as I want to be an anesthesiologist, which would require

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Speaker 2: long work hours. God forbid a woman work and be married.

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Speaker 2: God forbid a woman be a hard working antas caesiologist.

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Speaker 1: This is illegal.

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Speaker 2: She would also tell my husband's whole friend group how

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Speaker 2: she doesn't like my loud personality, and when I confronted

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Speaker 2: her about all those things, she would just say, oh,

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Speaker 1: What does that? What does that even mean?

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Speaker 2: I don't I just don't like the thing of It's like, No,

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Speaker 2: that thing I said about your personality was just a joke, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I said, without you around, exactly, It's not a joke.

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Speaker 1: You're just insulting me.

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Speaker 2: It's like if you said to your close, close friend

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Speaker 2: that you're wearing circus pants. But but it's to be fair,

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Speaker 2: that's not what I said.

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Speaker 3: I said to be fair, Sorry, Son, I mean to

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Speaker 3: be fair. You were in the room.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean.

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Speaker 3: John was in the room when you said those pants

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Speaker 2: Right in Here's where I said they were pants, you

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Speaker 1: I was in the room.

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Speaker 3: You said. Yes, John was in there with his pants,

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Speaker 3: and you said those pants look like circus pants. John

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Speaker 3: didn't hear you. I heard you, and I said those

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Speaker 3: pants are cool.

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Speaker 2: No, John was outside. Christian heard me say they were pants.

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Speaker 3: I heard you say, and John was there. John didn't hear.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll never know the truth. We will never know.

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Speaker 2: We'll never know other than either way, John didn't hear that.

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Speaker 2: John's pants rock all right. And i'd him for those

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Speaker 2: pants because I've also always envied the pins drip pants.

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Speaker 2: more crap, but if I typed at all, I would

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Speaker 2: never get to the point. Now, Kate has her own

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Speaker 2: husband that i'll call Gerald. Kate and Gerald both make

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Speaker 1: A teacher salary.

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Speaker 2: going to get married to my husband, Oops, Paul Ahole

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Speaker 2: that's for this? Sofiel, real quick, what's your take?

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Speaker 3: I think that it would be hard for OP to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but she got asked, I agree, no more

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Speaker 2: whyfe He better not be mad because she expressly approved this.

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Speaker 2: We shall We're literally fifty to fifty split in chat

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Speaker 2: of now it's more of the a hill but coma

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Speaker 2: below what you think we're gonna We're gonna keep on

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Speaker 2: rolling here. So when I saw her, I immediately went

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Speaker 1: I mean, you dropped it because it's what you asked for. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: it's the last time I'll say that.

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Speaker 2: My husband, however, was also confused on why she wore

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Speaker 2: having to tell him I was uncomfortable. She responded with, well,

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Speaker 2: your wife wanted such a big princess wedding. I thought

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Speaker 2: i'd wear this one because it follows the theme. More,

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Speaker 2: don't tell me she's upset about it. She's the one

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Speaker 2: who said, come in your nicest clothes, and this is

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Speaker 3: Pretty telling that. Opie hasn't said anything yet. The husband

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Speaker 2: Right, But the dress she was going to marry my

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Speaker 2: Well, of course, of course, but she's on brand for

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Speaker 3: You're defended in so hard, Dakota.

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Speaker 2: She didn't ask for it. I wouldn't have to. If

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Speaker 3: But I think the point is that Opie hasn't said

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Speaker 1: It before I fall fall asleep.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is this is staying staying on Opie shows

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Speaker 1: Sorry you got outshined out. Oh that's tough.

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Speaker 1: I feel pathetic. Oh I don't say that, OPI.

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Speaker 2: this story, but many more in this episode, Dakota, it

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Speaker 2: Do we reach out and and say something if you're

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Speaker 2: Opie to who to a past version of myself? Okay,

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Speaker 2: and I go, Hey, first of all, let's not invite

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Speaker 2: didn't marry you, I'm marrying this other person. You're not

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Speaker 2: You're not coming, Yeah person, I was going to marry yep.

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Speaker 2: Then also, if you make wear your wedding dress part

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Speaker 2: I feel bad. You need to just look in the mirror.

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Speaker 2: That's what you need to do. Look in the mirror

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Speaker 1: What say you, Sophia?

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Speaker 3: that was weird, right, that was strange that she brought

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Speaker 2: I do think that it's not a huge logical gap

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Speaker 3: I think it's pretty I think it is pretty self

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Speaker 1: You were gonna wear with, of course.

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Speaker 3: The groom of a different wedding.

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Speaker 2: In every other wedding story we've read, this would be

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Speaker 1: Invitation said, hey, by the way, wear your wedding dress.

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Speaker 2: She's using that as a tool, I think to be

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Speaker 1: Tape, it is that's what she's saying. I know he

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Speaker 2: Oh p agrees, but like put yourself in Kate shoes.

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Speaker 2: Would you be like, Okay, yes, I do technically have

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Speaker 2: I would just not be inviting ex fiances to the wedding.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's like uh also that yes, yes, it's like uh,

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Speaker 2: It's it's jumping in the mud puddle and then going

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Speaker 3: I do think it's a one point I will make

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Speaker 2: So look, I also want to make it her. I'm

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Speaker 1: I do, I get it. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't approve of her doing it.

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Speaker 2: But it's like I can't call her an a hole

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's what it is, even though again

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Speaker 2: it's hard, but I don't think. I don't think, Opie,

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Speaker 2: I guess qurot unquote, because not let OPI get mad

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Speaker 1: It's you did it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was like, do it wear your wedding dress?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? And she said, yeah, married people wear your wedding

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Speaker 1: Hello, guys, here's the update.

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Speaker 2: So I talked to my husband about it this morning,

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Speaker 1: But either way it is. I do wonder how she

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Speaker 2: But besides the point, either way, if I wasn't if

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry. This is just so ridiculous to me because

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Speaker 3: Out shining and wearing the dress that you were gonna

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Speaker 2: Bottom line, if there's any situation in which any of

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Speaker 1: But we have to invite all of our exes. Yours

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Speaker 1: I can be mad at Katie to go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm a little a goofy. She's a goofy

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Speaker 2: She follow the rules lay gentlemen, and explain that going forward,

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Speaker 1: Cutting off good.

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Speaker 2: After this talk, I decided to let it go and

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Speaker 2: and now after I've talked that with my husband, I

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Speaker 1: I let it bother me this much.

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Speaker 2: I'm at peace she will no longer be in our lives,

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Speaker 2: and that is enough for me. Someone said, you gave

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Speaker 1: She got to have that moment.

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Speaker 2: Which, okay, Yeah, whatever whatever you need to do to

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Speaker 2: asked him about that today and he said when they

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Speaker 2: broke up, Kate asked if he wanted to if he

444
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: wanted to see the dress, since there was no point

445
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: in hiding anymore, and he said yes, wow, and he wait,

446
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 2: he remembered that dress from like fifteen years ago from

447
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 2: seeing it once, must have been pretty stunning.

448
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Speaker 1: Is that suspicious chet? Now that suspicious chat?

449
00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: I think not?

450
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,679
Speaker 1: I think maybe chat? What do we think?

451
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: And then when they told their friends the news, the

452
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,240
Speaker 2: friends also wanted to see the dress, so she put

453
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Speaker 2: it on for them too, and ladies and gentlemen, Obi

454
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Speaker 2: said that the updates were over.

455
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Speaker 1: Well we've got update number two.

456
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Speaker 2: Ohp he's a dirty little fibber.

457
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Speaker 1: Ooh little liar, pretty little liar.

458
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: Hi. So I don't know if anyone still cares or

459
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 2: still remembers of my post, but I thought i'd make

460
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Speaker 2: another update here Before I go in, I would just

461
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 2: like to make a disclaimer that these are all things

462
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 2: my husband and I heard through mutual friends slash connections,

463
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: so who knows how much of his information has been

464
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 2: dramatized for gossip. Hearsay. We've got hearsay, We've got a

465
00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: whole lot. Let's go through the grape vine. Organic When

466
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: my husband talked to I think I called her Kate

467
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 2: in this post. She reacted as expected and started calling

468
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: me a jealous and controlling wife to anyone who would listen.

469
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: We didn't let her bother us, though neither I nor

470
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: my husband knew this, but apparently her Kate and her

471
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: husband Gerald have been struggling for quite some time and

472
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: have been going to couples therapy. Ooh, so did Kate

473
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 2: see this as her like, absolute hail Mary, just wear

474
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Speaker 2: the dress to their wedding and she's so stunning that

475
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 2: Opie's husband is like, I just gotta marry you right now.

476
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 2: I just got a dump. I got a dump op

477
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Speaker 2: on the spot, and just marry you because you look

478
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Speaker 2: so gosh darned delicious. Dude. She simply followed the instructions. Okay, okay, okay,

479
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: here's an example, right, Okay, you throw a party, you

480
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: say everybody bring your dog. Everybody bring your dog, bring

481
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: your bring bring all your dogs. Okay, everybody brings their dogs,

482
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Speaker 2: and all their dogs are maybe a little small. They're

483
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: like a little small, medium sized dogs. And then you

484
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Speaker 2: have a friend who brings like the great Bernard dog,

485
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 2: just a massive dog, big boy. Everyone's like, whoa look

486
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: at this person pulling up with their dog like everybody

487
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: else was told to do. Just because it's a different dog. Now,

488
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: this person's wrong. And regardless of if the vibe of

489
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of chihuahuas and one Saint Bernard makes any

490
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: sense or not. You asked for this, so I cannot

491
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,160
Speaker 2: in clear conscience, look clearly, she's being she's being scummy.

492
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: It's a scumbag move by Katie. It is so I

493
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Speaker 2: don't know. Again, look in that mirror, gonna look find

494
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Speaker 2: who's responsible. That's where you look.

495
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Speaker 1: I would say she was she like basically that had happened.

496
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Speaker 1: I'll give you that. She seshat in the stage for

497
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Speaker 1: it to happen. For sure.

498
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Speaker 2: Dude, if I'm gonna if I have an ex fiance,

499
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Speaker 2: she's not coming to my actual wedding.

500
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Speaker 1: I don't care how long it's been. She's not gonna

501
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: be there. That happen.

502
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: No, especially if the wardrobe is where your wedding dress.

503
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: We shall see, we shall see what happens to Kate

504
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 2: and opee dang it. When my husband cut her off,

505
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: Gerald sat down and asked him if he really thought

506
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Speaker 2: that Kate wore that dress out of spite, and my

507
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: husband answered truthfully and said, yes, we thought. Gerald asked

508
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 2: because he thought we were being ridiculous, But I guess

509
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 2: he was wondering the same thing himself, because he brought

510
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: up that whole wedding dress thing in their therapy oh,

511
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 2: now we're teaming up with old Gerald. Carold spelled in

512
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 2: the most annoying way I've ever seen Carol True. In

513
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: their most recent session, it's being said that Kate finally

514
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: admitted that she always thought of my husband as the

515
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: one guy who got away, and that she wore the

516
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 2: dress out of spite and not just because it was

517
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,479
Speaker 2: her fanciest or because of sentimental values. Shocking. We figured

518
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: it out. We've got it, ladies and gentlemen, Look, yes,

519
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 2: that's the intent. And still doesn't matter to me what

520
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: it still doesn't matter. She could have chose the other

521
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: trip because because you could have just make through the ale.

522
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 2: But if if you if she showed up and she

523
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: was uninvited, a hole, If this wasn't part of the

524
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Speaker 2: the vibe, a hole.

525
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm going to change your little your little examples.

526
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Speaker 3: This is like if you throw a party and everyone

527
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 3: invites the little chuhuahuas and you have a Saint Bernard

528
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 3: that you know likes to eat up little chihuahuas.

529
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Speaker 1: You're like, ooh, this dog loves.

530
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Speaker 3: To eat up little chihuahuas. And and then you bring

531
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Speaker 3: the dog and it eats a bottle little chihuahuas. And

532
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: then you're like, you told me to bring.

533
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Speaker 2: The dog, so what if on the instructions it said,

534
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: I bet you think your big dog can eat our

535
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: but it can't. I dare you to try. And then

536
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 2: you show up with your saint Bernard and everyone goes,

537
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: WHOA look at this monster. Dude. I'm sorry, that's not

538
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: what it said. You wrote it on the invitation though

539
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: she said where your best dress and outshine me.

540
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: I think it would have been like bringing your biggest dogs.

541
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Speaker 2: So regardless, dog is fine, regardless of Katie's intent at

542
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Speaker 2: this point, which I agree is.

543
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: Wrong and bad.

544
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: The fact that the entire set up was do this thing.

545
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: To me, it's just don't invite your husband's ex fiance

546
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: because then you know she's gonna.

547
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Speaker 1: Wear a dress.

548
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Speaker 3: You agree with that part.

549
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: Like, so what are we doing?

550
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: I'm more upset at the people who set this whole

551
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: thing up, rather than the chaotic little gremlin in the

552
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: mix that we all knew, we all should have known

553
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: was gonna do something like this. But why did we

554
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: give them the silver platter to do it on and

555
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: then get mad about it? All?

556
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: Right? Keep going?

557
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: You invited the vampire into your house.

558
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: What it is you invited the vampire into your home

559
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: and you're saying, why is the vampire training the blood

560
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: out of my veins?

561
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: Well, we've got more to this story.

562
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 2: Me go. Her husband, Gerald then asked her if she

563
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: would go back to my husband if he if he

564
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: decided to divorce me. She said no, but apparently she

565
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: hesitated and Gerald knew that she was lying. Again, that

566
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: is what my husband and I have been told. So

567
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 2: I don't know how much of that is accurate, but

568
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: it's being said from multiple people that that is what

569
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: Gerald is telling. Anyone who will ask WHOA Gerald's spilling

570
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: the secrets, Jerald spilling beans, dude, Jarald spill in the jar.

571
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 2: What I do know for sure is that Gerald is

572
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: filing for divorce. Oh no, He's already served her and

573
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: is taking her to court in a few months as

574
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: she's trying to fight to have ownership of some of

575
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 2: his assets. Since this all came out, I've had a

576
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 2: load of apologies from people who said rude things about

577
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 2: me or stop being friends with me. After my husband

578
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: and I agreed to cut off Kate. Most people who

579
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: had known her for a while believed what she was

580
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: saying about me and no longer wanted to associate themselves

581
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: with me after causing unnecessary high school drama. Their tunes

582
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: have obviously changed, but I'm not interested in forming relationships

583
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 2: with anyone who gossiped or didn't believe me. The whole

584
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: thing was so dramatic for no reason. That always really

585
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: bothers me, because it's like get in front of it.

586
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 2: Then I don't know, it's like being like, well, I

587
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 2: just won't say anything, and then everyone gets all mad

588
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: and upset and it's like, yeah, because you should have

589
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: said something.

590
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

591
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: It's tough though, because it's like sometimes you're like, Okay,

592
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to, like I don't even even though

593
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: they wronged me, I don't want to like put them

594
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: on blasts.

595
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: I just want to like move on. And but then

596
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: the other person goes and just reaching out to be

597
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: a d MS. Yeah, you don't make it a war,

598
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: a public war or anything.

599
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: You just like just hey, you just like some level

600
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: of damage control, because just all pure passiveness is like yeah,

601
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: then it just gets more messed up because you let

602
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 2: this person run around say whatever they want. It does

603
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: run the risk of that every time it does run

604
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 2: the risk that. So anyways, I just thought i'd write

605
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: this for any if any of you were still curious

606
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 2: for more info, but onto some pictures. I'm not going

607
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: to post any, but I will explain how it looked

608
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 2: for those who wanted to know. So firstly, lots of

609
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: people showed up in wedding dresses and that was absolutely beautiful.

610
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: One thing my friends from college did was a fifties

611
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe type clam and it was a killer. One

612
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: of the staff was able to find a red carpet

613
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: and we took a bunch of black and white photos

614
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Speaker 2: on them. I had about five girls whar They're Kings dresses,

615
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: which was gorgeous. Finally, some parents decided to dress their

616
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: little girls up in actual princess costumes, which I thought

617
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Speaker 2: was really cute. And by the way, you know what

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Speaker 1: I basically can promise you that if you start today.

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Speaker 2: But ladies and gentlemen, we are so close to the

624
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Speaker 2: finale this story, but we got way more in store

625
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: for this episode, so stay tuned.

626
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Speaker 1: The guys also dressed really well too.

627
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: One guy did a sequin tucks, quite a few went

628
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: for a rock star type suit. My husband's best man

629
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: who went for this really gorgeous red velvet tucks. And

630
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: my dress was this really shimmery, really poofy ball gown

631
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: type dress with a flower design on the veil that

632
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: I got custom made for me. Then I had it

633
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 2: designed where I could actually unattach the poofy part of

634
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: the dress for the reception, and by doing that, it

635
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: turned into a long, sleek, white, shimmery dress with a

636
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: leg slit that does sound like a fire dress. And

637
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: that is it. Now describe Kate's dress. Yeah, she didn't.

638
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Oh it was too hot. And Kate's dress was just imagine.

639
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: Really all of this just comes down to she's just

640
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: mad that her dress was just excellent.

641
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: She's just too hot.

642
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 2: She like does eat all this stuff about like and

643
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Speaker 2: he's the she's the ex fiance and all this stuff.

644
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: It's like, really, she's just like, she really did look

645
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: great in that dress, and I did not like it.

646
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Speaker 1: It's just undeniable. It's just unniable.

647
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: But yes, you know what's uh the only thing it's

648
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 2: hotter than Kate in her dress?

649
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: You this next story?

650
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: I disagree. I think both of those things can be

651
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: hotter than Kate. That's right, folks. Hey's John Og host.

652
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Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to the stories, but a quick

653
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Speaker 2: free minute break of ads from our sponsors. My husband

654
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: got jealous during our wedding because of a girl from

655
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Speaker 2: his past.

656
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Speaker 1: Uh oh, this sounds familiar.

657
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Speaker 2: I twenty five female, got married to my husband, twenty

658
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Speaker 2: four male, Jim, a week ago after dating for two

659
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Speaker 2: and a half years. Jim has a friend called Misha,

660
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 2: twenty two female, who was invited to the wedding. He

661
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: and Misha have known each other since high school and

662
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: we're close friends. And Misha had a very obvious crush

663
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: on Jim from what he and others who know them

664
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: have told me. By the way, this comes from user

665
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Throwaway Wedding Night, And if you want to submit your

666
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime subreddit.

667
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: And if you know people have crushes on your partners,

668
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: don't invite them to your wedding. Ooh, so Jim told

669
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: me this after I met Misha for the first time

670
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: and confessed that he leaned into her crush and led

671
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: her on throughout their high school years and for a

672
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: little while after before we got together, because he was

673
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: struggling with his mental health and he really liked her attention.

674
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: He seemed genuinely guilty about all of that. Because he

675
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: thought Misha was a nice girl and a good friend,

676
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: and because he showed guilt, I didn't feel the need

677
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: to bring it up or argue about it, despite thinking

678
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: it was a crappy thing to do. Plus, Misha is

679
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 2: a nice girl who has never overstepped boundaries and has

680
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: been nothing but kind and friendly towards me, and I

681
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: now consider her a friend too. Misha moved away to

682
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: the city last year and has done really well for

683
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: herself and has a long term boyfriend who none of

684
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: us have met yet. So when it came to sending

685
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: wedding invites, I told her she was welcome to bring

686
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: him as her plus one.

687
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: Is it the boyfriend from Canada? Is this the boyfriend

688
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: from camp?

689
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: He's a boyfriend from another school across town. You guys

690
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: don't know him. So the first red flag came when

691
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: Jim was weirdly resistant to the idea of Misha bringing

692
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: her boyfriend, but he excused it on being concerned about

693
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: the number of guests we invited, and the matter was dropped.

694
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Sophie ainting out of Thoon over there.

695
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 3: He wants to marry Mesha.

696
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: Ooh, he wants a Misha marriage. He wants to marry Mesha,

697
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: a Mesa marriage. When the wedding day came, Misha showed

698
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: up in this beautiful dress, nothing inappropriate for a wedding,

699
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 2: and with her boyfriend on her arm, who I'll admit

700
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: is a very handsome guy. Think of Kit Harrington type,

701
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: say McQueen. It's McQueen as Kit Harrington saying McQueen in

702
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones.

703
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: Anyway, Wait, who is Kit Harrington?

704
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: Get Rington is John snow Ah.

705
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: Yes, she's also lost weight and has a haircut that

706
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: suits her better, and I thought she looked great. We

707
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: also found out throughout the night that her boyfriend is

708
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: very successful and earns more than practically anyone else who attended.

709
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: I bet she is that because they told you that.

710
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: Who knows. Throughout the reception, I noticed Jim glaring at

711
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 2: Misha and her boyfriend. The whole time, and he was

712
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: really cold and short towards her when she came over

713
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: to congratulate us and give us a gift.

714
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's cold and short up north Ooh.

715
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, got him, I know that's right. He was also

716
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: straight up kind of rude to her boyfriend when Misha introduced.

717
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: Us to him.

718
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: When his mom, who has always known and liked Misha,

719
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: mentioned that she was glad Misha found a great guy

720
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: and praised her boyfriend for being so nice, jim snapped,

721
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: at least she won't be desperate and hung up on

722
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: me for the rest of her life, which I thought

723
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: was cruel and uncalled for.

724
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Oh god, Jimbo, what are we doing?

725
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

726
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: Jimbo? Yeah, at least so finally get over me, I guess. Oh,

727
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy not good.

728
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: However, I didn't challenge him because I didn't want to

729
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: argue at my wedding. Despite the fact that he frankly

730
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 2: sounded bitter. The whole thing has left an awful taste

731
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: in my mouth, and I can't help but think that

732
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: Jim got jealous that Misha has found a guy who's

733
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: honestly quite a catch, who she's clearly very in love

734
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: with and is now completely over.

735
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: Jim. We have a little half update here.

736
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 2: After getting some pms from people, I decided to go

737
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: through his phone while he was napping after work, and

738
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 2: needless to say, this marriage is over. Whoh ooh. I'll

739
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: post a real update when I have everything sorted out.

740
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: Whoa oh, it's about to get crazed. I got okay,

741
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: So all right thoughts theories?

742
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it's.

743
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: The classic classic, Uh, you don't want them until you

744
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: can't have them, that's right.

745
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Jim was Jim's the husband's name, right, Jim? Yeah, Jim.

746
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: Jim was just like, oh, you know, it's all good,

747
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: she can come to the wedding whatever. The second, not

748
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: only was she taken, but taken by a rich John

749
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: Snow rich John Snow.

750
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

751
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: And she's also you know, she's got a better haircut

752
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: and a slimmer figgere.

753
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: Dude, I mean, Jim's Jim's a whack ball for this.

754
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: And I wonder what he said. Do you think he

755
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 2: sent desperation texts? You think he sent like messages to Misha,

756
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: like I saw you and I realized that actually I've

757
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 2: always been in love with you on my whole life.

758
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna be like, yeah, I'll

759
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: leave her for you. Ooh yeah, ooh yeah. Okay, I'm

760
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: calling it.

761
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: I'm calling it all right, let's let's get We got

762
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: some comments stuck in my mind. Seventy seven says it's

763
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: giving bitter. Can't imagine how that must have been for you.

764
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: Says a lot about his character To be honest op

765
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: he says it felt a lot like watching a kid

766
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: get upset at another kid for playing with a toy

767
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: they personally never wanted to play with in the first place,

768
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 2: if that makes any sense, And I'm just gonna go

769
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: right to the update here we go.

770
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: Oh boy.

771
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: Pretty much the day after my original post, I got

772
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: some PMS from people suggesting that I go through my

773
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: husband Jim's phone to see if he and me show

774
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: were truly just friends before this and that nothing romantic

775
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 2: happened between them that would explain his reaction.

776
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: At the wedding.

777
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: Mmm.

778
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: He always takes.

779
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: A forty five minute nap after work, and so I

780
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: used that as my opportunity to swipe his phone from

781
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: where it was charging on his desk so that I

782
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: could look through it. I've seen him put in this

783
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: passcode a ton of time, so that wasn't an issue. Ope,

784
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: now you're the a hole.

785
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: Uh oh, you snooping.

786
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: You're betraying a man in his most sacred hour, nap time,

787
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: nappy time.

788
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: Clearly, I'm just kidding.

789
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: But if you feel like you got a snoop, there's

790
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: already there's already bigger problems.

791
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

792
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: I didn't find anything in his text messages with her,

793
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: but I know that Jim goes on Instagram a lot,

794
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: so I checked there too. The immediate red flag was

795
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: that he used an app lock that required a passcode

796
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: to access Instagram. But the dumbbutt used the same pass

797
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: code that he uses to unlock his phone, so I

798
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: got into it right away. And what would you know,

799
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: I go to his messages with Misha and find messages

800
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: from him the morning after our wedding, telling her how

801
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 2: beautiful she'd looked that night, how much he'd missed her,

802
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: how he felt that her boyfriend being there spoiled his

803
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: opportunity to catch up with her, and that he was

804
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 2: desperate to meet up with her.

805
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: Oh dude.

806
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Misha never replied to these messages, and he sent some

807
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: more to her later that day. Oh no, no, I

808
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: thought I thought that that was gonna be it, but

809
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: it's gonna be worse. Oh man, okay, How'm ready being right?

810
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: Never felt so terrible?

811
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: Right?

812
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: Just you open the phone with all these messages on

813
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: the screen, you can smell the desperation oozing from the pixels.

814
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't like it.

815
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: I won't get into what he said because they were

816
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: very personal insults that were frankly just gross. But just

817
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: think about the kind of stuff you would read on

818
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: that nice guy's subreddit. Misha left him on red and

819
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: when I clicked on her account, it appears that she's

820
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: blocked him. I scrolled through their messages quite far back,

821
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: and I believe nothing romantic has happened between them. Yeah.

822
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: I think you can believe that just based on how

823
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: Misha reacted yep, which was immediate.

824
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: Oh ooh, blocked, blocked, blocked book.

825
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: I wish that was all, But looking into his other

826
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: conversations on Instagram, I found that he's been messaging other

827
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: girls on there. They seemed like aspiring Instagram model types

828
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: from our area. Do you click on one of those ads?

829
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: There's hot local aspiring Instagram models types in your area.

830
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: They want to talk.

831
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: To you click three weird laws that aspiring Instagram models

832
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: in your area are going to follow. Also, do you

833
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: want to meet up with them? Most of these conversations

834
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: were just him shooting his shot and getting left on red,

835
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: but others had evolved into flirting, and two of them

836
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: resulted in spicy texts, Oh god. And the most embarrassing

837
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: part of it all the noodles he was sending to

838
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: these women weren't even of him. I know what his

839
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: body looks like, and he doesn't have chisel dabs and isn't.

840
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: That well and down? Oh my god. Wow, bro needs

841
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: a lot of help.

842
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 2: Dang dude, bros so pathetic, He's become pathetological. Okay, wait

843
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: a second, I have to ask this very quickly. What

844
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: is worse him actually sending mudes of himself or using

845
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: someone else? I think funny enough using someone else.

846
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

847
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: If I'm like a partner, I'm like, yeah, my partner

848
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: doesn't even have it going on enough to send pictures

849
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: of himself to these women. Not only is he cheating

850
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: on me, but he's even insecure about cheating on me. Yeah,

851
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Like that is double double bad. Hana says, it's just

852
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: getting so sad. Like, yeah, this is just this is

853
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 2: just sad.

854
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: Golly.

855
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: No, at least you won't have to have a this

856
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: guy is your husband anymore.

857
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

858
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: So I think he must have found a man's profile

859
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: on some adult website and used those pictures and just

860
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 2: cropped the face out. These two conversations happened in the

861
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: past six months. I ended up texting his mom and

862
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: his brother from my phone, asking him to come and

863
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: pick him up from the apartment, and then I went

864
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: to wake him up. I told him that I knew

865
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: about the girls he was messaging on Instagram and that

866
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 2: he needed to pack a bag and get out before

867
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: I started throwing his stuff onto the street and causing

868
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: a scene. He started crying and begging me not to

869
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: remove him from our house and swore that they were

870
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: just messages and that he would never actually cheat on me. Dude,

871
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: but I don't believe him for a second. You've already

872
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: cheated my guy. You've already done it. I think you're clear,

873
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 2: like aching desire to cheat on her with Misha though,

874
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: pretty clear, right, even if nothing else had happened, Yes,

875
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: just the messages you sent to Misha, Yeah, would have

876
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: been enough to be like all right, so we're not

877
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: doing this right that the Misha messages in terms of

878
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: him like reaching out, wanting to get with her, and

879
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,720
Speaker 2: all the messages afterwards of like, oh if he doesn't

880
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: like get his way, he will turn into a nasty

881
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: monster baby boy. So I'm all the way out.

882
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: It's an over me dog Deskostin.

883
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: Then he had the nerve to tell me that he

884
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: didn't want me to tell anyone else about what he'd done,

885
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: but I had left the room and started ignoring him.

886
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: By that point he left with his mom and brother

887
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 2: and is staying there now.

888
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: From what I know.

889
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: I've blocked him on everything for the time being, until

890
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm ready to tell him that I'm seeking a moment. Thankfully,

891
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: where I'm from, you can get one almost no questions asked,

892
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 2: as long as you haven't been married for longer than

893
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: thirty days, and I've already looked into the process. I

894
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: haven't really left my apartment at all this week, and

895
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: I've been calling in sick to work because i don't

896
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: feel like I can face people. I'm just so embarrassed

897
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: that I've wasted over two years on this man, and

898
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: that I married him in the first place. I don't

899
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: feel like I can even talk to people about this,

900
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: so posting here has helped, and i'd like to thank

901
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: you all for your kind words, advice, and support. I

902
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 2: might reach out to Misha when the dust is settled,

903
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 2: but I think I'll need to build up some courage

904
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: for that. And we have a second update four months later.

905
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: Four months later.

906
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 2: I'm afraid because what happened that warranted a whole update

907
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: four months later? Maybe like just like chatting with Misha.

908
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: Hopefully it's just a nice little Misha chat. Maybe maybe

909
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: her and me Sha become bessies. That would be great.

910
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: That would be an awesome update.

911
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

912
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they live happily ever after, I hope. So

913
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: let's get into this second update. Let's see it with

914
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: much mystery and intrigue.

915
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: Hey, it's John here.

916
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to this episode, but a quick

917
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 2: three minute break with Asper sponsors. Hello, everyone, I just

918
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: thought i'd give an update to my situation since I

919
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: still get messages of support on here every week or so.

920
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: You'll be glad to hear that I was able to

921
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: get the annulment and I didn't have to go through

922
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: a messy.

923
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: Divorce with Jim. Let's freaking god, let's go.

924
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: I struck an agreement with him that I wouldn't tell

925
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: a soul about his cheating or what happened with Misha,

926
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: and would leave him alone forever if he agreed to

927
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 2: the annulment and got it over quickly.

928
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: I did end up sticking to my.

929
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: End of the bargain, but it ended up not mattering

930
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: because it turns out his brother is quite the gossip

931
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: and let the cat out of the bag over Christmas

932
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: after getting into an argument with Jim while wasted nice

933
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 2: in justice as a way of being served. Yeah, it

934
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: was JD JD. Is that the Justice Department or Jack

935
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 2: Daniels boom nice one. A lot of Jim's family were

936
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: pissed and asked for the money they contributed to his

937
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: half of the wedding fund. Ooo.

938
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: Fair enough.

939
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and some of our mutual friends have cut contact

940
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: with him. A couple of our friends plastered everything on

941
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: Facebook and humiliated him, and it was interesting to watch

942
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: the back and forth between them and Jim. Honestly, I

943
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: lived in our apartment and covered the rent on my

944
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 2: own while he lived at his parents until the lease

945
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: ended back in January. Now, I'm living with my dad

946
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: and I planned to stay here for a while and

947
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 2: take things easy. In January, I also tried reaching out

948
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: to Misha via text, asking if she'd like to meet

949
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 2: up for coffee to talk about anything. I never had

950
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: a response directly from her, but a few days later

951
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 2: I got a call from her number and it was

952
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: her boyfriend on the other end.

953
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: Oh.

954
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: He said they were both sorry for what had happened

955
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: to me and that they hope I'm doing well, but

956
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: that Misha thought it was best to cease any contact,

957
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: as this whole ordeal had made her anxiety and mental

958
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 2: health problems spiral and had landed her back in therapy.

959
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she she doesn't have to be involved. Well,

960
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, I totally respect that.

961
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: Mental health issues signed. If I'm Misha, I'm like, no,

962
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: I'm not talking to you.

963
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: Leave me alone.

964
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't want to say anything, one hundred percent.

965
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: Leave me out of it. I was pulled into this.

966
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: I did literally nothing, and all this crap happened though.

967
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm out.

968
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: I don't want to really talk to you, and I

969
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: don't feel you shouldn't really want to talk to me.

970
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Just leave, leave, yeah, leave, Yeah.

971
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: I did ask her why she never told me that

972
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: Jim had messaged her the day after the wedding, and

973
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 2: her boyfriend confessed that he advised her not to get involved.

974
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: His direct words were, I'm sorry to sound rude, but

975
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: it's not her circus exactly.

976
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: Hmm.

977
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed that she doesn't want to talk

978
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: to me, but I get where she's coming from, and

979
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: I can't force her to do anything. To be honest,

980
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: I think she's been looking for a way to divorce

981
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 2: herself from our hometown and the people she and Jim

982
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: knew back in high school for a while now. As

983
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: for me, I'm also in therapy as I want to

984
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: sort through these feelings and get back to feeling good

985
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: about myself again before I even think about entering the

986
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 2: dating scene.

987
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you.

988
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 2: Know what, you can enter our scene night or day,

989
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 2: rain or shine. All you need is to take yourself

990
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: over to Spotify or iHeartRadio or Apple podcast or wherever

991
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: you listen to podcasts, and you can tap into the

992
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: full episodes with stories just like this one. Over two

993
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: thousand episodes over sixty days.

994
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: Birth of listening hours. Wow, Wow, wow, very nice.

995
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: We do have a little bit a little story here.

996
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: Do we have any thoughts, Sophia, I think we.

997
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 3: Have at least five minutes verth the thought. Oh, I

998
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: think you should tell your thoughts.

999
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: We have so many thoughts.

1000
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: Granted, you know, Jim has exposed himself to be the

1001
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: like quintessential nice guy, the guy who is so insecure,

1002
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 2: you know, cheating at the drop of the hat, who

1003
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: knows what else he's done in the passive relationship. This

1004
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 2: is just like recently would have got with me chef.

1005
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: She led him like it's it's it's just everything he does,

1006
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: he's inverse of mindus. Touch everything he touches turns to dukie.

1007
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: So I think we need to take him where the

1008
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: dukie is, and that is the grbagio, and just toss

1009
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: him out, let him leave him behind, leave him behind,

1010
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: don't get bitter, don't get nasty, Just leave him in

1011
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: the pad, get your therapy, gets you, get your yourself

1012
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: love on, and just just keep on trucking.

1013
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I just I agree.

1014
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: I agree with all of that. Do you have any

1015
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: idea the raw willpower I had to channel to not

1016
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: cut you off after you said Jim exposed himself not

1017
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: immediately well, yeah, he exposed himself, except he exposed actually

1018
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: some random guy when he sent those pictures to those

1019
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: Instagram models.

1020
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you.

1021
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 2: I held that in dude, you christed as long as possible.

1022
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: I still let it out now that I was perfect timing,

1023
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm powerless.

1024
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: It was perfect. I still I'm very proud of you.

1025
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: A prisoner of my own insane twisted mine of.

1026
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 1: His own brain.

1027
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: Okay, but you know what, We're ready, Let's get into it.

1028
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: We're ready, We're ready to We're ready to finish this story.

1029
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: You have fished the story yet, so buckle in.

1030
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: I thought I thought you had fished the story.

1031
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: Huh, you can go what perfect, Sophia. We're gonna, We're

1032
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 2: gonna iron these out. I've also been firm about ending

1033
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: friendships with anyone who's taken Jim's side, as I don't

1034
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: want him finding his way into my life again. So far,

1035
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: he stayed away from me and hasn't tried to contact me,

1036
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: although his mom reached out over Christmas to ask me

1037
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: if there was any chance I might forgive Jim and

1038
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 2: take him back, as in her opinion, you too are

1039
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: just meant to be together. No, imagine she calls Jim

1040
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: and she's like, look, it made aware about what your

1041
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 2: mommy thought about this situation. Now that mommy's told me

1042
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: she wants us to be together, I guess I'll give

1043
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: it a shot. No, Mommy, No, I didn't respond to her,

1044
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 2: and I've blocked her on pretty much everything.

1045
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 1: Now there we go.

1046
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Thank you again for all your kind words and support.

1047
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm certain leaving that a hole would have been harder

1048
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: for me had I not had hundreds of comments backing

1049
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: me up. And that is the end of that story.

1050
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: Positive social proof. We love to see it. You do, good, frope,

1051
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: we do. Get away from all of the madness, get

1052
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: far away and live your life. What are you gonna do?

1053
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

1054
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 2: You don't even need to pick it apart anymore.

1055
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: It's a mess. We already know. We already know it's

1056
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: a mess.

1057
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: You should high five yourself every day like I dodged

1058
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: that bullet.

1059
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: Let's freaking go. Yeah, thank god. The annulment was good.

1060
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: It was easy. My goodness, we did it. But ladies

1061
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, that's the end of that episode. It is

1062
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 2: obviously wow. Well, and you know what, you know what

1063
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: they say when it's the end of the episode.

1064
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: Well, what do they say, Dakota, If you love us,

1065
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe.

1066
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: If you.

1067
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Love us, make sure to subscribe.

1068
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 2: Dude, you mess literally I totally threw me off totally

1069
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: instead of you.

1070
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know why. It's just like totally.

1071
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 2: Okay, Well I sew if you love us, make sure

1072
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: you subscribe.

1073
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: We love you and I see it themorrow