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Speaker 1: welcome back, y'all, and thank you again Alex over at

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Speaker 1: food is meant to nourish, yes, our body, but also

431
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: our mind and our soul, and so food is so

432
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,719
Speaker 1: much more than just fuel, and it brings people together.

433
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: Got I'm gonna stop you a lot, but I like

434
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: that you said that because I feel like a lot

435
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 1: of the stuff that you see now it's not meant

436
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: to be harmful. I don't think. I don't think. I

437
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: really don't think anything on internet is meant to be harmful.

438
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: So let's just say that first. But you'll see a

439
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: lot of times of people being like food is fuel

440
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: and how do you fuel your body and all of that,

441
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: And so that's an interesting perspective from somebody who knows

442
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 1: the insides and outside of of food and your body,

443
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: that you don't look at it that way. It's not

444
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: just something that helps you be able to wake up

445
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: and walk, Yes, because obviously, yes, that's a purpose food serves,

446
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 1: but it's so much more than that, Like if you

447
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: think about different cultures or different areas like the South

448
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: and the North, and just how different foods are more popular.

449
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: And I mean anyone can think about like oh, I

450
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: remember growing up and my mom always made these homemade

451
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,719
Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies that were my favorite, or it just

452
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: brings so many memories, and I think from from diets,

453
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: it takes that out of food and really makes food

454
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: just about fuel or even more so about like punishment,

455
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, I have all these great memories

456
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: with cookies or ice cream or maybe bread or whatever

457
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: it may be, but diets turned those into like demons

458
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: in our life that we can't can't enjoy um. And

459
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: so it's kind of going back to my food philosophy

460
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: with that. The way I practice with my clients is

461
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: through a non diet approach, and what that means is

462
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: kind of going off of what I've been saying of

463
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: really taking diets out of the pictures, so we don't

464
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: talk about numbers, we don't talk about calories, measuring, weighing,

465
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 1: all of that, and really letting the client be the

466
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: expert of their body, so understanding what it means to

467
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: listen to your hunger cues, listen to your fullness cues,

468
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: honor just what foods sound good to you. I have

469
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: a lot of clients come to me after like months

470
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: and months or years and years of diets and they're like,

471
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know what foods I like, because all

472
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 1: I know is, you know, I've been doing this Keto

473
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: diet forever, so I'm not allowed to eat carbs. So

474
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: do I what carbs do I like? And that's always

475
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: kind of fun though, because it's almost helping people rediscover

476
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: that aspect of food, that it's more than fuel. And

477
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: I feel like, sometimes why don't I This is for

478
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: me when you're operating in the diet mentality or good

479
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 1: food bad food mentality. This is a funny memory I have,

480
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: But it's not funny, it's sad. But I think you

481
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,199
Speaker 1: also trick your not even saying like I don't know

482
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: what foods I like. We trick ourselves to think that

483
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: we like foods that we don't. Because in college, my

484
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 1: senior year of college was challenging food year for me,

485
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: but I was very super restrictive and there's only certain

486
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: foods I would let myself eat. I could there like

487
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: a ton of them, and one of them was baby carrots.

488
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: I went through my hands were like orange, like that

489
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: happened yet? Um. But I remember telling one of my

490
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,239
Speaker 1: friends because they're like, how are of course, everybody's like

491
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: you're so strong, so I wish I could eat like you.

492
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I wish I could eat so much

493
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: will power. And she was like, how do you like not?

494
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: How do you always just eat? I was always eating

495
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: baby carrots and I was like, well, you know what.

496
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: I was like, I just tell myself that baby hairts

497
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: taste like Doritos because they're orange, like they don't why

498
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: I they don't? And I don't think I really they

499
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: ever did. I just like told myself that and one

500
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: thing that I am strong willed, so I can like

501
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: trick myself. Yeah, I like, I mean I like baby carrots,

502
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: but I don't really last time I bought them that

503
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: wasn't for like a veggie try for a party. So

504
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: and they don't taste like three? Does no think Toritos

505
00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: thritos taste like three? Yeah, they're good. Anyways, I got

506
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: you off track. But so another aspect of a non

507
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: diet approach kind of going off for what you're saying

508
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: with good for bad food is taking the guilt and

509
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: the anxiety out of food. And so the reason that

510
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: labeling foods is good or bad is bad is because

511
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: it gives us this guilt following like a moral Yes,

512
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: it's giving food morality, which food doesn't need morality. It's

513
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: not a living thing like a yeah. And so if

514
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: you think about when you do something bad, of course

515
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: it's going to follow with guilt shame, and then it

516
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: also follows with oh my gosh, I did something bad.

517
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: Now I need to do something to make up for that.

518
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: So let's say you eat a food that you've labeled

519
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: it's bad. Then you're like, okay, now I need to

520
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: compensate for that by working out, by restricting tomorrow by

521
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: not eating the rest of the day. But then also

522
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: in reverse with things that are good, when you label

523
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: food is good, it then almost gives you this idea

524
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, I did something good, so now I

525
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: can do something bad, Like I had this good food

526
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: for dinner, so now I can have this bad food after.

527
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: So it's then it's a cycle because then you feel

528
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: bad after you eating that food. So it's like a

529
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: hamster whe all you can't get off. But then it's

530
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: also like your decisions aren't even based on what you

531
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: want or what you don't want. It's more so based

532
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: on like, Okay, I need something that's good right now,

533
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: so what fits into this good category? And then since

534
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: I had this good thing or I did this good thing,

535
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: now I can do something bad. But then when that's so,

536
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: it's not even what you said, it's not what you want.

537
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,479
Speaker 1: It also truly isn't what you need either, because your

538
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: body is probably needing the things that you're not letting

539
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: it have goodness. All right, So that's a little background

540
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: on how you view things. So I want to get

541
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: into um some pain points for me before we get started.

542
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I have a perspective of because I do work with

543
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: a lot of obviously I work with you need distorts.

544
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: So I think a lot of people have the mindset that, well,

545
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: this doesn't apply to me, and I can do diets

546
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: and I can do these things because I don't have

547
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: that issue. But what I would like to say before

548
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: we dive into this is it does apply to you.

549
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: And so just because you aren't shrugging it with it

550
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: now doesn't mean that you that can't be something that

551
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: hits you, and that's probably part of why you're going

552
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: to talk about don't work. But so I just want

553
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: to say that too. If you are already thinking, well,

554
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I can do this thing and it works for me,

555
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to prove to you then. And you

556
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: may not even realize how a diet is impacting your

557
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: life because maybe you've been doing it for so long,

558
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: but when you take a step back and think of, okay,

559
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: how is this affecting just my life in general? Like

560
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: that's a question I always ask people when they're considering

561
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: a diet. Is one, is it sustainable? Like is this

562
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: something I can see myself doing a year from now,

563
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: five years from now? But also how is this going

564
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,719
Speaker 1: to impact my life? Like my mental health, my just

565
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: day to day interactions with people. Am I going to

566
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: have to say no to happy hours with friends? Am

567
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: I going to have to bring my own food to

568
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: dinner parties? Or am I going to have to skip

569
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: breakfast so I can go to this lunch thing or

570
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: so then you may not realize how that's impacting you.

571
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: But after weeks and weeks and months and months of

572
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: doing that for years or years, looking back now I

573
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: can see that, like I missed out on so much stuff,

574
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: and I also became a freaking weirdo, like I, um

575
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: didn't go to my very last date party ever in

576
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: college because I drove home to Nashville six hours to

577
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: run a half marathon. I can run half months for

578
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: there's my life. Why didn't I can one last? So

579
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't. I didn't. Now I regret that

580
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I missed the last big party with

581
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: all my college friends, and now I can see that

582
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: I missed out on something. But then I was like, no,

583
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: this is this is healthy. I feel like I'm taking

584
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: care of myself. So I priorities and yeah, I know

585
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: I don't. Do you want to take a step back

586
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think we touched on I just want

587
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: to kind of talk about this for a second before

588
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: we dive into the specific diet. In the New Year

589
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: of resolutions are based on losing weight. Do you see

590
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: a lot of people coming in the New Year being like, Okay,

591
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: it's the new year. I want to I want to

592
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: lose weight, like I want to go on a diet

593
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: or I want to see absolutely I think a lot

594
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: of it is well I think it's a few things.

595
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: I think one big thing is we just went through

596
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: the holidays, and a lot of people, especially if you've

597
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: been dieting all year, used the holidays almost as like

598
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: an excuse to just do whatever. And also when they've

599
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: come from diets, it's more like, Okay, I've been having

600
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: this strict lifestyle for maybe you know, ten months of

601
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: the year, so now I can just binge and go

602
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: all out. And so it's that kind of all or

603
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: nothing mentality where then it's like, Okay, January one, I'm

604
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: going to start a new diet and get back on track.

605
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: I think also all of the different like companies like

606
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: food companies, restaurants, commercials, all of that have caught onto that.

607
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: And diet culture is a seventy billion dollar industry, so

608
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: they know, oh, all these people are at a point

609
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: now where they're really insecure in their bodies. They've just

610
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: eaten probably more than they normally do. They're feeling like

611
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: they need to lose weight. So let's send out all

612
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: this messaging around New Year. Knew me, start this diet,

613
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: drop all the weight, you know, lose all your holiday weight,

614
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: and then you'll be happy. Yes, like this is the

615
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: key to happiness. But I think if people again take

616
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: a step back and think, Okay, the past five years,

617
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: I've made the same resolution to something's not working. But

618
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I think what so many people do with diets as

619
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: they blame theirselves. So when you try diet and it

620
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: doesn't last, you're like, oh my gosh, I don't have

621
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: enough will power. M a failure. Maybe I just need

622
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: to try a different diet, without realizing no, it's actually

623
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 1: the diet that's failing you. Like diets have failure, right,

624
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: they don't, And which is crazy that people are like, oh,

625
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: because that stat's been out there for a while long time,

626
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: and it's crazy that people are like, oh, this is

627
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: failure rate, I'm going to do it anyway. So you're

628
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: we're setting ourselves up to feel even shittier about ourselves

629
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: after it doesn't work. And then again you said, we

630
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: blame ourselves when no likes diets are set up for

631
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: you to fail because the people that this is so

632
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: sad and I'm not sure if this is a conscious

633
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: thing that everybody start whoever creates the dice does this consciously,

634
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: but they are created for you to fail at them,

635
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Like that's they aren't created in a way that helps

636
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: you sustain long lasting success well because they want you

637
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: to eat them or something. They want you to come

638
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: back because they want your money. That's the thing about

639
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 1: especially these big name diet companies, like they don't want

640
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: you to get completely quote unquote better and move on

641
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: with your life. They basically want you to fail because

642
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: then they keep signing up and you keep coming back,

643
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: and that's just sick, Like, that's sad that people. I

644
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: just got like a visceral feeling in my body because

645
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: I started thinking about Beach Body. God, It's like that

646
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: is I'm getting ahead of myself. So let's let's go.

647
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm like down. Have you had a visual of me?

648
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I'm playing down on the couch. I'm about to be pacing.

649
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: It's literally about my combs are sweating. I need somebody

650
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: to give me therapy. Okay, so let's move forward, because

651
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about specific diets and there

652
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 1: are a couple that I that come to my head,

653
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that you know more of them, but

654
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: a couple of that gome in my head. Keto of course,

655
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: beach Body, which is that the same as the twenty

656
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:50,959
Speaker 1: one day six yes, Okay, my god. Like if anybody says,

657
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 1: like work, we can change your life in twenty one days,

658
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: like that should be a good. It takes longer than

659
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: that to form a new habit. Yeah, So there's that

660
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: there is any juice clients Paleo which has been around

661
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: for while whole thirty which I can I mean that

662
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: will make me hyperventible. And then there's also specific like

663
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: little fad things that I just have come up throughout

664
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: the year. Specifically I mentioned to you Celery juice, which

665
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: I could write a book. Um, okay, I want you to.

666
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know even know where we should start, like

667
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: should we get just go through each side? So I

668
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 1: want to know. I don't really know a lot about

669
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: Keto diet. I know the basics of it. I know

670
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: that it's sucked up and I know like it's kind

671
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: of gross the things that you have to eat. Do

672
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: so tell me. I guess what they sell you on.

673
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: And then what people should know of Why isn't a

674
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: good option for you? Because it just doesn't sound But

675
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: we want to talk about we're getting yourselves healthy. It

676
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: doesn't sound healthy. So a backstory on keto, which a

677
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: lot of people may not know is the keyto die

678
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: has been around since like the nineteen twenties. It's not you, yeah,

679
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: but I felt like somebody recently invented this and the

680
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: keyto diet. It originated to help people with epilepsy, which

681
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: is like seizure disorder because basically, and it's still kind

682
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: of like blurry. They can't figure out exactly why it works,

683
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: but it helps people who have frequent seizures. It reduces

684
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: their seizure activity. That's a really hard work to say,

685
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: reduces their seizure activity. So started the nineteen twenties for them.

686
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: So I think it was in like the nineteen nineties,

687
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: Dateline did a story on this kid who had epilepsy

688
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: and the Key to Diet really helped his seizures, and

689
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: then that kind of sparked back up this keto diet

690
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: kind of what it even is, and so then people started.

691
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,839
Speaker 1: I guess I don't exactly know how it transitioned from

692
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: being used for epilepsy to being used for weight loss,

693
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: but I think assuming people probably started to notice, oh,

694
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: there's also people losing weight on this. What the keyto

695
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: diet is is five of your daily energy needs come

696
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: from carbs. Is what they're saying and what a normal

697
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: carbo hydrate recommendation it would be is like close to

698
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: like forty to six of your daily energy needs coming

699
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: from carbs. So that's a very very very low amount

700
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: of carbs. And the funny thing to a lot of

701
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: people who do keto aren't actually doing keto because they're

702
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 1: not consuming that low of calories. They're not I mean carbs,

703
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: they're not even consuming they're consuming way more than five percent.

704
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: All of that. To say what the keto is very

705
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: high fat, very very low carbs. It's kind of like

706
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 1: that's what I say. It's more like a modern day

707
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: Atkins diet that's at strict. Yeah, I just remember people

708
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: eating just like like a lot of bacon, lots of bacon,

709
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: lots of cheese, which are great foods. I love bacon

710
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: and I love cheese. But if you eat a lot

711
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: of high fat foods, it just you don't feel like it.

712
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: You can't feel good. Yeah, you don't feel good like

713
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: it just kind of feels I don't know, you just

714
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: feel great and everything with the keto diet. There's no

715
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: research one showing anything about the long term effects. So

716
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: if you think about when you're already doing something, starting

717
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: a fad diet that, like we mentioned earlier diets have

718
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: fail rate, So you're starting something that's already destined to fail,

719
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: and you're starting something that has no research on the

720
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: long term benefits, so you have no clue. It seems

721
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: like that could hurt, yes, you, And what they're realizing

722
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: is obviously, by eating high amounts of fat, that's going

723
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: to be impacting your blood pressure, your cholesterol levels, So

724
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: you may lose weight at first, but then you're also

725
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: going to increase your cholesterol levels, increase your blood sugar

726
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: or blood pressure levels. So it's like you're sacrificing one

727
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: thing to get this just thing that everyone glorifies of

728
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: weight loss, but with and that's kind of so I

729
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: hear you saying, is you're sacrificing your overall health to

730
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 1: get the image of a body that you want. And

731
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: I think that's where, which if we're going to do

732
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: plenty of just straight up body image episodes, but that's

733
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: where I think there's an issue of like why would

734
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: you sacrifice all of these things? You also, when you're

735
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: talking about this, it sounds like very regimented that you

736
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: would have to like You can't be a normal social

737
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: person with having to pay that much attention to how

738
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: many carps you have to see, how many carps in

739
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: the day you have to measure things. And the thing

740
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: is too with cars. I know when when you hear

741
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: the word carbs, a lot of times people think, you know, bread, chips,

742
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: rice pasta, But a lot of our vegetables and fruit

743
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: have carbs in them, so it's very very limiting. It

744
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: also is setting you up for deficiencies and certain vitamins

745
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: that you're not going to be consuming. Um, yeah, it's

746
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: it's not healthy. So yeah. It would just want to

747
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: make the point that if you're willing to sacrifice, if

748
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 1: you hear that and you're like, well I still it works.

749
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: I see people and it works and they keep it off.

750
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: If you're still willing to sacrifice like your overall health,

751
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: it's really scary to me for the image or whatever

752
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: body you're looking for. That's the whole other issue of

753
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: why is that more important to you? And what do

754
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: you really think that being able to fit in this

755
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: size or being able to get your arms or your

756
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: legs to look like that, Why is that more important

757
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: than your actual health? And I think What people don't notice,

758
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: and I think this is why diets continue to be

759
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: so popular, is say you lose the weight, Like, there's

760
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: no denying the fact that from the Keto diet you'll

761
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: lose weight. Short term, you'll lose weight fast. You're gonna

762
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: gain it all back because you're not going to cut

763
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: off carves forever. But when you do lose that weight,

764
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: your negative body image doesn't go away. You still have

765
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: that same mindset and you may even lose the weight

766
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: and then think, Okay, now I need to lose more.

767
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: So really, what you're missing what you need to focus on.

768
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: This is another scary thing that comes up a lot,

769
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: is like you lose the weight and then you're like, well,

770
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: this is supposed to make me feel better, so you've

771
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: lost the weight, and then you're then you find something

772
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: else wrong with you, and then it that becomes a

773
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: whole deeper, deeper, deeper hole. We could go on a

774
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: tangent with that one if we wanted to, what do

775
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: you say to people that come to you and are like,

776
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm doing Keto? Did you say like, don't do well?

777
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: I make my messaging very clear that I'm like I

778
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier work from like a non diet approach. But obviously,

779
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: I think a big thing that I try and do

780
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: really well is validate people's thoughts and their ideas. So knowing,

781
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes sense you would want to try

782
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: this diet because we live in a culture that glorifies

783
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: weight loss. We live in a culture that makes you

784
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: think the smaller you are, the more accomplishments, the more

785
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: confident you'll have, you'll get that job, you'll marry this guy,

786
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: And none of that should be true. Sadly, it's true

787
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: for a lot of in a lot of areas. Um.

788
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I tell that to people. I have

789
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: many clients who come to me having been on the

790
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Keto diet or maybe are still on it, and so

791
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: we work to transition off of it because it is

792
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: a hard diet because it's so strict. It's one you

793
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: kind of have to like come off gently a literal lifestyle.

794
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: But you are you meaning from like a health standpoint,

795
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: you can't just stop doing that because you can hurt yourself. Yeah, well,

796
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people probably do that well.

797
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: And that's where because the thing with weight cycling, when

798
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: you're dropping weight and gaining weight back, that's really harmful

799
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: for your body. A lot of inflammation affects your blood pressure,

800
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: has so many different impacts on your body, affects your heart. Held. Like,

801
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: you go on a diet because you think, oh, I

802
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: want to get healthy, maybe I want to lose weight,

803
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: I want to lower my chluster, I want to do

804
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: X Y Z. But then dieting leads to weight cycling.

805
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 1: Weight cycling causes all the things that you're going on

806
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: the diet for, so it like doesn't end up helping you.

807
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: It ends up feeding more into the problems that maybe

808
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: one aren't even problems in the first place, but makes

809
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: some problems, maybe even worse, talking about like blood levels

810
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. But yeah, so the key too,

811
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: it's one you have to i mean, reintroduce carbs, but

812
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: to try It's not like I'm trying to help people

813
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: not gain back the weight they lost, because they may

814
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: need to gain that weight back, but it's to help

815
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: prevent any of the negative effects from that weight cycling

816
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: that could happen. Yes, I know, but crazy. Also this

817
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: came up because I don't think we mentioned this in

818
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: the beginning. What do you do when people come to

819
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: you and say, hey, I want to lose weight. Yeah,

820
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: do you ever feel like it is appropriate to support

821
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: somebody in trending down when it comes in regards to

822
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 1: their weight. So the way I approached that, and it's

823
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: very much a fine line. But when people come to

824
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 1: me telling me, Dylan, I just really need to lose weight,

825
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: maybe they have a certain number of pounds that they

826
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: want to lose, I dig much deeper into that and

827
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: thinking to Okay, what what do you think that's going

828
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: to bring you? Like, if you reach that weight, if

829
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: you drop those pounds, what are you looking for? And

830
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: so maybe it's why I want to improve my energy levels,

831
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: or I want to make sure I'm around for my grandkids,

832
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: or I want to be able. I just want to

833
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: feel more empowered when I'm cooking foods at home. So

834
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: then with that, it's like, okay, so you're not really

835
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: the weight isn't the big picture. It's more the behaviors

836
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: that we want to focus on. Weight is a symptom.

837
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: So let's say you don't eat breakfast at all, you're

838
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: about you may see a trend in your you may

839
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: see your body weight trend up, or you're not drinking water,

840
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: or you're drinking tons of coke every day, or different

841
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: behaviors where weight loss is a simplem weight is a symptom.

842
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: So you're trying. Okay, So like we're focusing on the behavior,

843
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: but I want to say this, well, over everything that

844
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: we just said about that is I practice for my

845
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: health that every size approach. So what that means is

846
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: it's very weight neutral. We take weight out of the picture.

847
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: So the way I talk about it with clients is

848
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: if I were to tell someone I can help them

849
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: lose weight, that would be unethical because I don't know

850
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: their body. I don't know how their body holds weight.

851
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Let's go away all of that. So I can't ethically

852
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: say yes, I can help you lose this weight. What

853
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: I can say is I see these behaviors in your

854
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: life that maybe aren't as health promoting as other behaviors

855
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: we could introduce. So I can help you make a

856
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: habit of drinking more water. I can help you make

857
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: a habit of cooking more at home instead of eating out.

858
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: I can help you develop these habits that maybe wresl

859
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: and weight loss, but maybe your your weight will say

860
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: the same. And so then with that, it's also really

861
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: diving into this body image piece, because the question I

862
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: always ask my clients, especially with things like this, is

863
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: if we work on all these behaviors and you improve

864
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: all these different behaviors or you know, decrease certain behaviors

865
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: that aren't as help promoting, but your body stays the same,

866
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: would you still be would it be worth it? And

867
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's a hard question for people

868
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: to answer because they're like, well, no, because deep down

869
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: I want to lose weight. So then it's digging into

870
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: that of like, well, what do you think this is

871
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 1: going to bring you the weight loss? Confidence? Like I said,

872
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 1: the boy, the marriage, the whatever. So it's really digging

873
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: into that whole body image piece of like it's not

874
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: even as much about the behaviors. It's more about and

875
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: it's not about health at that point, and it's not

876
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: at all about health. And that's when you send them

877
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: to me and I'm like, yeah, that sounds like you

878
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: need to see a therapist. Okay, it's crazy. So going back,

879
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: so that's Keto. We could have done a whole episode. Okay.

880
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: Is that connected to is there a connection with keto

881
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: and intermitute fasting? Yes? Because don't you only eat within

882
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: a Keto somebody was telling about like their diets, and

883
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: and most people don't know. When people tell me these things,

884
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,240
Speaker 1: it's because they don't know what I do, of course,

885
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: But somebody. I was at a restaurant one time and

886
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: it was this guy that I hadn't seen in years,

887
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, on the Keto diet, and

888
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't eat until two o'clock and then I only

889
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: eat for six hours, and i put butter in my

890
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: coffee and I'm just like, wait what, I was like,

891
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: you don't eat to do a clock. It's crazy. So

892
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: some people will kind of combine keto and internet fasting.

893
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: What keto is is it basically, which I feel like

894
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: when I say this out loud and again is like

895
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: why do people do this? But keto almost in a

896
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: sense tricks our body that we're in that we're starving

897
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: because our body is meant to run off of carbs.

898
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: Carbs is our body's main source of energy, and with keto,

899
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: you're running off of fat for energy instead of carbs,

900
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: and so our body when it's not getting carbs, it thinks,

901
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I'm in a state of starvation. I'm

902
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: in famine. Our body doesn't know the difference between a

903
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: diet and famine starvation. And so what it does, because

904
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: our body is smart, is it thinks, Okay, I don't

905
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: have enough carbs in store, so I have to run

906
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: off fat. And the way I described it to clients

907
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: as if you think about a car and a car tire,

908
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 1: imagine that being like your carbs. That's the way your

909
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: body is meant to run for energy. That's your main

910
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: energy source that can get you anywhere you need to go.

911
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: The spare tire will work if there's a problem, or

912
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: to get you from where you are to where you

913
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: need to go to get your tire change, but it's

914
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: not going to take you on a cross country road trip.

915
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: It's not going to take you very far. So it'll

916
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: work for a limited time, but it's not going to

917
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: be sustainable. That's exactly that's really great. I tell that's

918
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: when I think that when I talk my clients that

919
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: that's when it like that makes sense. They're like, okay,

920
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: because it's not like like, yes, our body can run

921
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: off a fat for energy, but it's not to do

922
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: that long term. It can do it, but then it

923
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 1: starts cutting into muscle, and then it starts cutting into

924
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: our organs and all this different stuff that is not good.

925
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: Just like a spare tire. If you keep driving on

926
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 1: a spare tire, your car is gonna yeah, and then

927
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: you're going to spiral out of control to break other

928
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: things in the car. Wow, that's good, that you're smart,

929
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: smart gal. Okay, So tell us, let's cat aside. We

930
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: know that it's terrifying. That's evident intermnute fasting, because the

931
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: other one I get a lot of questions about personally,

932
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: and again I'm like, I truly don't know. I just

933
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: know it's not great. Tell us the background of why

934
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: people think it's supposed to work and why it doesn't actually. Yeah,

935
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: So inter minute fasting what it is is eating in

936
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: these specific windows. So basically it's taking this idea of okay,

937
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: instead of restricting or cutting foods out or anything like that,

938
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: we're just gonna restrict the time that you eat. And

939
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: so a lot of people on when they're inter minute

940
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: fasting will maybe eat from like a six to an

941
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: eight hour window, so like starting to eat at two

942
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: pm or like noon as a comment time, and maybe

943
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: the last meal will be at six pm. So first,

944
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: and I say this with a lot of diets, well

945
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: all diets is as a dietician, we're trained to only

946
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: practice what the evidence shows, so to practice from an

947
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: evidence space approach. So all the research on internet fasting,

948
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: which there's not a ton, but all the research on

949
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: internet fasting one, most of the research is done on rats,

950
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: not humans. Rats. We're not rats, so our bodies are

951
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: very different than rats. And also there's not much research

952
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: on the long term. No, there isn't any research on

953
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: the long term effects of interimnet fasting, just like with keto,

954
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: probably because people don't say on it long enough, so

955
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: there's no research to show how this goes long term.

956
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: I love that we're talking about this now too, because

957
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: there was an article or a new journal article that

958
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: came out maybe like a week ago, like December twenty six.

959
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: I think talking about internet fasting impreach your health are like,

960
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: you're linked longevity of life and all of these different things.

961
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: But when you start reading deeper into it and read

962
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: more into the research articles that they're going off of,

963
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: you see one and improved longevity of life in rats

964
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: again not humans, and there's no long term studies, so

965
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you even know it's really improving

966
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: the longevity when you don't have yeah, you don't have

967
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: a long term study and you haven't studied followed a

968
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: specific person or group of people long enough to see

969
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: the impacts of it. That aside to another. Some other

970
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: harmful things about in a minute fasting is it takes

971
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: our body away from listening to our hungerful excuse. So

972
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: so like if you wake up in your hungry at

973
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: eight am, nine am, but you're in a minute fasting,

974
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: you can't eat till twelve, you're out of left, like

975
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be hungry. And it's sad because what

976
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the research and not research, but just

977
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: a lot of studies I've read, our articles I've read

978
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: on it is it's like they know that they know

979
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: that you're going to be hungry, but they're like, oh,

980
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: well your body will eventually. Yah, well it does. And

981
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 1: that's the problem I think though, because I when I

982
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: was very restrictive, I never I never did that. I

983
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: didn't know that was I feel like that it's UM.

984
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: But I would go very long periods of time UM

985
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: without UM eating. And two things happened. One over time,

986
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: I started to think that I needed less food because

987
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: my body did address and it stopped telling me it

988
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: was hungry. And two, I attached the feeling of hunger

989
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: as like I'm doing a good job, Like it was

990
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: like a high for me. Of like if my stomach

991
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 1: was growling, I was like, oh good, this means that

992
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,479
Speaker 1: like you're losing weight or you're like you control. Yeah,

993
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: And the feeling of fullness to me became something that

994
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 1: was bad, so I didn't so I want. Two things happened.

995
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I changed the way that I viewed being um full

996
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: or hungry. And also eventually I didn't I would feel

997
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: full if I ate anything, but I stopped getting hungry,

998
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 1: which that's your body does that, and your body tells

999
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 1: you it's hungry. Like that's like the same thing of

1000
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: like you want to be able to feel if a

1001
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: stove is hot, so you don't keep your hand on it,

1002
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: Like I want to know that my body is hungry

1003
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: so I can it's not hungry because it just wants

1004
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: to like funk with you, hungry because it needs something.

1005
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: And that's your body's way of communicating to you. So

1006
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: if you are by internet fasting, what I hear you

1007
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 1: saying is that's another way to uh get like part

1008
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: of that is like you'll get rid of those hungry cues.

1009
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Well okay, well that's really scary, and like you losing

1010
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 1: another sense in your body, like you lose your sight

1011
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: or you lose your sense of touch or whatever, or

1012
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: your ability to know when you need to get the bathroom.

1013
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: And then that is a really good because you don't,

1014
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you feel the urge to go to the bathroom,

1015
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 1: you go to the bad bathroom. You feel you're hungry,

1016
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: you should eat. And when we lose our hunger cues,

1017
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: it's not something to be celebrated again, going back to

1018
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: the starvation mode famine thing. When our body when we're

1019
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: not feeding our body enough to just function at a

1020
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: basic level. So like if we were just to stay

1021
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: on this couch all day, our body is still burning colors.

1022
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: It's using energy to keep our blood flowing, our body

1023
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: to regulate temperature, send out our hungerfulness cues. As we're

1024
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 1: not giving our body enough energy to do those basic needs,

1025
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: it has to start shutting off things because okay, our

1026
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: hearts still need to keep beating, but hungerful and excuse

1027
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: those aren't as important or regulating my body temperature or

1028
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: having a period every month, those things aren't as important

1029
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: as those more like major like things that actually keep

1030
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: you alive. And so when you notice your hunger cues

1031
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: going away, that's a bad sign. With the internet fasting

1032
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: is like, Okay, that's good because now you can get

1033
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: better interneted fasting and maybe your windows will get smaller

1034
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: and smaller. Yeah, which is another I hope you guys

1035
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: heard that. And if you guys are experiencing some of that,

1036
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,799
Speaker 1: like I used to be cold all the time and

1037
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 1: I didn't lose my period for like two or three years,

1038
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: that is a clue that like something something off, Like

1039
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing right now, it's not that's not good

1040
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: and it's sad. I see that with so many of

1041
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: my clients, and they'll go to the doctor and maybe

1042
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: they'll put them on birth control or do something like

1043
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: they don't even think, oh, maybe this is because you're

1044
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: not eating enough, like they know what I So this

1045
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: is funny. Um, it's not. This isn't funny at all.

1046
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: I keep saying this is interesting. So in college, when

1047
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: I was in the depths, probably in the most restrictive

1048
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: I was ever, I started losing all my hair and

1049
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't we're trying to lose my period because I

1050
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: had pc US, so it never was super normal. Um,

1051
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: but I started losing my hair and like clumps in

1052
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: the shower like bad. And I've always had really thick

1053
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: hair and actually never it's still not a sick that

1054
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: used to be. But I didn't know what I was

1055
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: doing was wrong. So of course I go to the

1056
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: doctor and I'm like, I feel like I need to

1057
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 1: get blood work done because I keep I'm losing all

1058
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,959
Speaker 1: my hair and this is no like, uh, I love

1059
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: my doctor, it's amazing. Um, there's nothing to do with

1060
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: any of them being good or bad. But I went

1061
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: to the doctor to see like what's wrong, and I

1062
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: got blood work and obviously, like my weight head dropped

1063
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: dramatically since I've been there. But they told me I

1064
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: throughout what it was. It was like some vitamin. I

1065
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: was like, you just need Oh they just told me

1066
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: that I need more protein in my diet or something like.

1067
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: They didn't say anything, and so of course I'm like, oh, Okay,

1068
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal, and I keep going

1069
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: on with my life. But I think it's important to

1070
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: note that when stuff like that happens like your hair shouldn't.

1071
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: I was my hair shouldn't be coming off clumps anyway. Okay,

1072
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 1: So another thing with the internet fasting that I'll mention

1073
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: is if you think about the feeding windows, so you

1074
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: it tells you to eat from you know, a six

1075
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: hour window, and you pick whatever you pick the window.

1076
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: But with that it kind of brings about a risk

1077
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: for over eating or binge eating, because then you're like,

1078
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I only have the six hours to eat,

1079
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna eat whatever I can in the six hours?

1080
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: Can you internet fascinating? Are you eating specific things? There's

1081
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: no rule, They don't have any like food rules, which

1082
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: I think is why some people are like, oh, well,

1083
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: it can't be that bad. They don't cut out foods,

1084
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: but they're restricting the time that you eat. So it

1085
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: still is a diet because it's placing some limitations around

1086
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: your food, and it's taking you away from being the

1087
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: expert in putting someone else in charge. And so it's

1088
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: encouraging this idea of just eating all that you can

1089
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: in the six eight hour window or however shore or

1090
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: long of a window, when maybe at that point maybe

1091
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: you're not hungry or you're going past your fullness levels

1092
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be. So all in all is

1093
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: just terrible. Yeah, and two things in that Obviously it's

1094
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: going to impact your life dramatically, and I mean you're

1095
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do things like I just

1096
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: imagine like if somebody would ask, let's go to brunch, Well,

1097
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: I can go, but I can't eat, I can't drink,

1098
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: so I just have to sit there like okay, we

1099
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: can all just agree that going to brunch and not

1100
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: eating it is not is going to brunch, and so

1101
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: why is that more important than enjoying your life? Um?

1102
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: And the other thing is I think with all of

1103
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: these is a good uh place to talk about this

1104
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: is and this is kind of what I was saying before,

1105
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: Like I didn't have any of these issues before I

1106
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: went on a restrictive diet. That these these behaviors that

1107
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: the diets encourage also are going to encourage you to

1108
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: engage in the eating disorder behaviors life binging. So if

1109
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: you have a very restrictive you're saying so no, no, no,

1110
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: you can't have this. It's like okay, well for six

1111
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: hours you can have food. You're you're gonna it's all

1112
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: that becomes all or nothing. So you're not it's not

1113
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: like a you're not strong enough. That's how you're honestly like,

1114
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: that's how. Yeah, like you're gonna okay, we'll have to

1115
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: get all of this in right now. So that's just

1116
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: an example of Yeah, maybe the whole ideology of this

1117
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: isn't so horrible, but it actually doesn't work because it's

1118
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: going to encourage you to do things that are worse

1119
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: than what what you were doing before. Yeah, and it

1120
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: makes you feel anisely and it makes you feel guilty,

1121
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 1: going back to hunger being a sign of like accomplishment,

1122
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: it makes you feel guilty if you're hungry at nine

1123
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: or heaven forbid, you eat something at nine o'clock and

1124
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: then you're like, great, now, I just screwed up my

1125
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: feeding window. What am I gonna like my diets ruined?

1126
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, So then it ends up having a large

1127
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: impact on your mental health, your social life, and it

1128
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: starts giving you all these like rules around food, these

1129
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: disordered thoughts and disordered eating patterns. Then maybe in the

1130
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: moment you don't even realize how it's impacting you long term,

1131
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: but then maybe you end up stopping in a minute fasting,

1132
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: but you still have these lingering rules around. Oh, I

1133
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: can't eat after six p m. Because I remember back

1134
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: when I was on this diet, I couldn't do that right.

1135
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: And in all diets, specifically this one, I it feels

1136
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: like they give you more opportunity to fail than succeed.

1137
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: And I think, in anything, if we're moving towards UM

1138
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: trying to better ourselves in any way, we want to

1139
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: make that as easy as possible for us. And so

1140
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: in the episode where I was talking with Anti about

1141
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: changing our beliefs is, I said specifically said, we have

1142
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: to make it easy for us to be kind to ourselves.

1143
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: And so in the same thing, we're making it really

1144
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: hard for ourselves to succeed at what we want to accomplish.

1145
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 1: Here there are so many more areas where we could

1146
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: bump into roadblocks than we can be. Like the only

1147
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: way you can succeed in interminute fascinatings. I don't eat

1148
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: for the majority of my life. It's so yeah, So

1149
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: I don't like that one. UM. Can we take a

1150
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: second chat about the whole thirty, which, which promotes itself

1151
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: as a non diet food freedom food freedom that's the first.

1152
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: The first time I ever heard food freedom was from

1153
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: heartwig post on Instagram, which I immediately unfollowed after she

1154
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: she gave an example which I don't know if I

1155
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: should have mentioned her name, but she is the creator

1156
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: of everyone, so it's not where she's but she had

1157
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: posted a video of her being like, this is what

1158
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: food freedom is. And you guys think I'm so restrictive,

1159
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: but my friend just sent me a tin of cookies

1160
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: and I'm going to show you that I can eat

1161
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 1: one and and um, she was like watch me, and

1162
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: so she took a bite of the cookie and then

1163
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: she was like, this is me having food freedom. I

1164
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: ate a bite of the cookie and it's all that

1165
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 1: I want, So I'm not going to eat any more

1166
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: of it. And I was like, bitch, you already eat that, yeah,

1167
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: the cookie and like it was bad but bad then

1168
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: taste not bad? Yeah, but unless it tasted bad. And

1169
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: I was like, not a flavor that, yeah, Like you

1170
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: wanted the whole cookie? Yeah, And so I was like,

1171
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: that's the food freedom. I was like, I actually got

1172
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: a little sad, and I was like, I feel sad

1173
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 1: that she can't eat the whole cookie. Yes, yeah, and

1174
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: that that's what in her mind and in so many

1175
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 1: people's minds, that's food freedom, but it's not. That is

1176
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 1: being a slave to food. If you think, okay, I'm

1177
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: approach to myself that I can eat one bite, but

1178
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: then after that I can't have anymore. Yeah, so don't

1179
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: yeah you So Whole thirty we could do a whole episode.

1180
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: We need to just do episodes on I'm like de

1181
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: debunking every single diet is and we'll be able to

1182
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 1: run this for the rest of my life because there'll

1183
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: be a new diet. Oh my gosh, yeah gosh. So

1184
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: Whole thirty started by who we've already mentioned, and I

1185
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: say all this I'm not with people. Was she a

1186
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: nutritionist or a dietitian nutritionist? But I don't think she

1187
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: was when she first started. I think she did some

1188
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: sort of certification kind of like you, but no, she's

1189
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: not a dietitian and all of this, which I should

1190
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: have sat the beginning too. Sometimes when I'm talking about

1191
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: diets and my you know, thoughts and opinions, I want

1192
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: to make sure people know that it's not just me

1193
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 1: forming these own opinions that I just have and share

1194
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: with people. This is like rooted in evidence, Like this

1195
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: is me just speaking evidence that I've studied myself, which

1196
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: is why I'm not doing this by myself my opinion.

1197
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: So it's not just me being like, oh yeah, I

1198
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: hate this diet just because like it's stupid. No, I'm

1199
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: talking about why it really doesn't work and why it's harmful.

1200
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: So Whole thirty was started as basically a version of

1201
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: the elimination diet, which an elimination diet is to be

1202
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: used only when someone has when you feel like you

1203
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: have intolerances to food, so you're noticing a lot of

1204
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 1: constipation or just g I distress, are things that just

1205
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,680
Speaker 1: don't seem normal, which even an elimination diet is not

1206
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: going to be the first line of defense. So anytime

1207
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: I have clients come to me who are having g

1208
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: I issues, we take other approaches first. Because our stomach

1209
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: carries a lot of hormones. So if you are stressed,

1210
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 1: if you're anxious, depressed, or if you're feeling these different emotions,

1211
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna feel it in your gut. You're gonna be

1212
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,959
Speaker 1: bloated or constipated or whatever other stumming issues may present.

1213
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,479
Speaker 1: So we're gonna focus on that first, the mental health,

1214
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: stress management, send them to a therapist, all of that,

1215
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: and then if you're still noticing that, then we'll dive

1216
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 1: more into the food. But with Whole thirty, it first

1217
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: dives straight into okay, cut all these foods out. And

1218
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: it's also a very broad audience, so it's not even

1219
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: just for people the way they market it is just

1220
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: for everyone. Yeah, it's like everyone Trial thirty. It's gonna

1221
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: make your life better, I want to think before that

1222
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 1: also goes into the same idea is if you're having

1223
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: an issue, why are you going to influence on Instagram

1224
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: to tell you what program they developed? That's the that's

1225
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: the first issue I see and actual person, Yes, like

1226
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: if you're have I mean, and if you think about it.

1227
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know why it's this way with nutrition, but

1228
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: if you're having car trouble, you're gonna take your car

1229
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: to the shop. You're not gonna I mean, maybe some

1230
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: people are going to try and figure out on their

1231
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: own at first what's wrong, but you're gonna take it

1232
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: to the expert. So if there's something wrong with your

1233
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 1: body like that keeps you alive, you're gonna want to

1234
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: go to an expert for that you shouldn't go online

1235
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 1: or oh my neighbor did this, and so Whole thirty

1236
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: on their website is very I was scrolling through it

1237
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: this morning, very very like a brasive negative language around

1238
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: like cut this out, you can do a try harder,

1239
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 1: have more willpower, just very very intense diet minded while

1240
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: trying to say that it's non diet food freedom all

1241
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: of that. So it's like a mind fuck, yes, great

1242
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: way about it. So the thing about Whole thirty is, again,

1243
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: like I said, it's cutting out foods that may not

1244
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: need to be cut, cutting out dairy, cutting out grains,

1245
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: which grains are great, they're high in fiber, have lots

1246
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: of vitamins and minerals, dairy high in vitamin D, calcium,

1247
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: they're cutting out great things. And then it's also going

1248
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 1: back to the labeling of foods is good and bad.

1249
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 1: So it's instilling this mindset of Okay, I'm cutting out

1250
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: all these foods because they're bad, leaving all these foods

1251
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,959
Speaker 1: in because they're good. Most people start Whole thirty because

1252
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 1: they're wanting to lose weight, but that's not even what

1253
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: it's for. If yeah, if you're really doing an elimination diet,

1254
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: you're doing it because you're trying to figure out what

1255
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: is wrong with my body. And the way to really

1256
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: do an elimination diet would be you eliminate those foods

1257
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: for probably thirty days so they are right with that,

1258
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: maybe longer though. You eliminate any food that could be

1259
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: a potential trigger, but first under the care of health

1260
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: expert okay, a dietitian and maybe a doctor, but a dietitium,

1261
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: and then you gradually start adding the foods back in.

1262
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: Because if you think about even if someone's doing whole

1263
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: thirty to figure out any you know, stomach issues they

1264
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: may have, and then you add everything back in, how

1265
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 1: are you going to know what food was causing the problem,

1266
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: because then you add everything back in. Versus a true

1267
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: elimination diet with a dietitian, you pick different foods to

1268
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: add back in gradually. So say you add back in

1269
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: dairy and then you notice, well, I really am having

1270
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: stomach problems, so dairy was the trigger for me, So

1271
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: maybe all the other foods are fine. So you're adding

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01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 1: them back in one at a time, whereas whole thirty

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01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: you're not doing that. Well, you know, the two things

1274
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: from um and you need to sort of therapist perspective.

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01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: And I've done the whole thirty twice. I never heard

1276
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: the books in my room. I never did because that

1277
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: thing didn't you have to cut out coffee or there's

1278
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,600
Speaker 1: something don't. I didn't drink coffee when I drink it now.

1279
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: But from the perspective I sit in is the two

1280
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: things that tend to happen is because most people go

1281
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: on this not too they might say like, oh I

1282
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: think that I'm allergy dairy, that what you're doing it.

1283
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: But the two things that happen is one, you create

1284
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: fear or round. You create fear foods. So because these

1285
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: foods are told, okay, this is bad, then you create

1286
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: fear around those foods and so, and then you end

1287
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: up losing weight and then you're scared, scared to gain

1288
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: the weight back. So you're then now afraid of carbs.

1289
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: So you're afraid of things like like oatmeal, Like I

1290
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: became afraid oatmeal is one of my favorite foods, and

1291
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: they're made it every single day. More than once, I

1292
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: got afraid to add oatmel back in because I was like, oh,

1293
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: this is gonna make me gain weight and so you're

1294
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,759
Speaker 1: so one, you're creating fear on foods that aren't scary.

1295
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,080
Speaker 1: And then also the other thing is you're setting yourself

1296
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,800
Speaker 1: up to create that binge pattern because a lot of

1297
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: its whole thirty. So you do all this stuff and

1298
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: you you work really hard and you're not drinking either,

1299
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: so that brings in the substance of use apart. And

1300
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 1: then on thirty day thirty one open up, you go

1301
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: to the grocery store and you buy all of this

1302
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: ship and then you go out your friends that night

1303
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 1: and then like you overeat and then you feel bad

1304
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: about it, and then you create a cycle in that way,

1305
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: and then you probably start in the next day. Yeah,

1306
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: it instills that last suppermentality. Okay, it's the day before

1307
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: whole thirty. Let me go out and bin drink and

1308
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: eat everything that I can because diet starts tomorrow. But

1309
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: then day thirty one, Yeah, you do it again. And

1310
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: then that's why you know you're it's not sustainable. And

1311
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: they tell you only do it for thirty days. So

1312
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: even if you lose weight, when you add back in

1313
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 1: those foods, you're going to gain back the weight because

1314
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 1: you just lost weight rapidly, which is not a healthy,

1315
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: sustainable way. So I think the point of this, we

1316
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: don't even have to get that far into it, is

1317
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 1: it's actually not supposed to be a diet. People misuse it,

1318
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: and if you are using it for what it was

1319
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: created to be used for, just go to a dietitian.

1320
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: So like, basically all this day, you should never there's

1321
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: no reason you should ever be on Whole thirty because

1322
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: even if you're having stomach issues or you feel like

1323
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: you're intolerant to a food, you should go to a

1324
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,080
Speaker 1: dietitian where they may have you do elimination diet it

1325
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: or a low pod map diet or some sort of diet.

1326
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 1: And when I use the word diet in this sense,

1327
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 1: it's a more medically necessary diet kind of like a

1328
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: dibetic diet kind of thing where they'll walk you through it.

1329
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: Versus Whole thirty where they have like beach body certified

1330
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 1: coaches who don't have any taching background. They have I

1331
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,360
Speaker 1: looked it up today, how to be a whole thirty coach.

1332
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: It's four weeks a whole thirty or of each body. Well,

1333
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 1: they have whole thirty coaches. Now what yeh four weeks

1334
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: of training and you read their books like Food Freedom

1335
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: Book and stuff, So I mean I could do it. Yeah. Yeah.

1336
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: They say if you've done a whole thirty either two

1337
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 1: or three times, then you can apply a good coach.

1338
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: I would be get certified. Then I feel like, whoever

1339
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: my clients were, I'd be like, don't, don't do it.

1340
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: They would fire. Okay, So here's what I'm learning. I

1341
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: guess I already knew this, but I'm learning this even more.

1342
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 1: Um any diet obviously, I think we're going to the

1343
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: specifics of things just because I want to if I

1344
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: want the people that are out there saying but this

1345
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: really says this, and this really says this. I wanted

1346
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: to get more detailed into some of them of why

1347
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 1: it's tricky and you to think that and why it's

1348
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 1: actually not true. I think because we went we just

1349
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 1: went through three specific ones, we can apply that same

1350
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: concept to every other diet that it's just a it's

1351
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: a different means to the same end any other diet,

1352
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: whether that's the Weight Watchers situation, Beach Body, the hCG

1353
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that is crazy. That is that's like

1354
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 1: very hard and again it's like you lose weight quickly,

1355
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: but it's just terrible, terrifying to me that what we

1356
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: will do to lose weight. Obviously there's going to be

1357
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: a quick fire round two to this um and we

1358
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,879
Speaker 1: can I would love people to like send in questions

1359
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 1: and ask it, like what about the thing about this?

1360
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: But I also want to talk about just fads in general,

1361
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: and so you can talk about more what you hear

1362
01:12:58,040 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: and what you've seen, what you talk about so what

1363
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: not just diets, but even like, hell fad, Yes, I'm

1364
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: glad you asked that, because I think a thing to

1365
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: note is, yes, there's a lot of like true fad

1366
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 1: diets out there, but there's a lot of things that

1367
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 1: are almost kind of disguised and you wouldn't think it's

1368
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 1: a quote unquote diet. But if you think about like oh,

1369
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: I only eat organic or i'm clean eating, or I

1370
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: don't eat GMOs or different things where sometimes people don't

1371
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,799
Speaker 1: even understand like what a GMO is or what eating

1372
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: organic first non organic or things like that. So I

1373
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: think things like that can be a slippery slope where

1374
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: this it's kind of like this wellness culture um. Other

1375
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 1: fads that I see not a lot with my clients,

1376
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:45,839
Speaker 1: but a lot just on social media. Is the sellers

1377
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 1: us sad and I'm proud to say I never tried

1378
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: company me neither. But I will say which this makes

1379
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: me so sad about it because I love celery. I'm weird,

1380
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 1: but it's one. I just love it, mainly with peanut butter.

1381
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, I love it, but it

1382
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: needs to have people, yes, something much on it. Yeah,

1383
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: I've always loved it, but now the process are more

1384
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: expensive because everyone's juice. Yeah, I mean not that much

1385
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: more expensive, but still't. But anyway, celery juice is just

1386
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 1: one of the fads. So you really just don't like

1387
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: this fad because it's making the price of your Celery increase. Exactly,

1388
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: everyone stopped using no, so so these are the things

1389
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,679
Speaker 1: kind of going back to what you're saying about, people

1390
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 1: will do anything to lose weight, so they won't even

1391
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: really research, Like what what started? This is just even

1392
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 1: backed by research? What decided? I mean, celery had like

1393
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: a moment and I did, like whoever, I mean the

1394
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: because celery is just like a vegetable, so it's not

1395
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: like a a brand or whatever. So I'm like who's

1396
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 1: doing like the pr for Celaries. I was trying to

1397
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,000
Speaker 1: increase its sales. I need them to do my pr No,

1398
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: so okay. The guy who started Celery Juice, his name

1399
01:14:56,600 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: is Anthony William He has absolutely no medical background. He's

1400
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 1: not a doctor, not a dietitian, literally no medical background.

1401
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: But he says that he had a real estate agean

1402
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: just you know, a random guy on the street, probably

1403
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 1: looking for a career. He says he has the ability,

1404
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: like saying this out loud, I'm like, oh my gosh,

1405
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: the ability to communicate with the spirit of compassion and

1406
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: who provides him with health information that is far ahead

1407
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: of the times. So basically he's claiming he's like a psychrophet.

1408
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: It's like a prophet where he's able to know. Oh,

1409
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 1: no one knows this yet, but Sellary has all these

1410
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: hidden benefits that no one knows about. But also, do

1411
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:45,360
Speaker 1: you think that he's mentally unstable? Probably, which, like it's okay,

1412
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:48,879
Speaker 1: we all get like that sometimes, But we also don't promote.

1413
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't promote anybody following somebody unable with their health. Yes,

1414
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,799
Speaker 1: and yeah, which started at age four. I was scrolling

1415
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: through his page. He apparently claims that he cured his

1416
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: grandmother's lung cancer, and so he's he says that he

1417
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 1: has and I'm going to quote this from his side,

1418
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: or hasband using his gifts to read people's conditions and

1419
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 1: tell them how to recover from their health. He claims

1420
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:17,000
Speaker 1: that celery juice is a powerful herbal medicine that's killing

1421
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:22,760
Speaker 1: bugs in our bodies. Like I can't even talk about

1422
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: without laughing because it's just it's crazy. That is why

1423
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 1: we're drinking though, it's it has this cult following. But

1424
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 1: the thing about celery juice that I just want to

1425
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,880
Speaker 1: shout from the rooftops because everyone claims so the things

1426
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: that people claim about celery juice. Oh my gosh, my

1427
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: skin is clearing up. I haven't have so much energy.

1428
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: H Yes, you're drinking more water than you ever have.

1429
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: And so the bottom line with that is it's not

1430
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: the celery, it's the water that you're getting. So yeah, okay,

1431
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 1: now you're drinking isn't celery mostly water? And then you're

1432
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: juicing it, you're taking out the fiber. Literally all it

1433
01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: is is water. So you're drinking like salty waters, like

1434
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, it tastes like I've never tasted it.

1435
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,200
Speaker 1: I've tasted it in juices, but not Yeah, I don't.

1436
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not that good. But what you're

1437
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 1: getting is just say you're drinking six celery juice today,

1438
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 1: you're getting sixty ounces of water which you probably weren't

1439
01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:15,640
Speaker 1: drinking before. So now your body is more hydrated, your

1440
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: skin is clear, you have more energy, of course, but

1441
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: people are thinking it's celery. So if you if you

1442
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: like celery juice, drink it. It's not going to hurt you, yes,

1443
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: but like, also, don't confuse your celery juice with the

1444
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: um water you're drinking. Yes, And I'm glad you say that,

1445
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: because I say that with all of these kind of

1446
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: like fad trendy foods and you like it. Yeah, Like

1447
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: that's fine. You shouldn't feel shame if you like celery juice,

1448
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: but make sure to check your intention of why you're

1449
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 1: drinking it. Like, if you genuinely like the taste of

1450
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: celery juice and have the time or the money to

1451
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 1: spend going and getting these nancy juices or juicing it

1452
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: at your home, by all means, do it all day

1453
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: long to your heart's content. But but don't do it

1454
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 1: because you think it's gonna solve all these problems, and

1455
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,240
Speaker 1: do not do it in the place of a meal.

1456
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,639
Speaker 1: You could have it as a drink with your meal

1457
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: if you want to, but it's not a meal. Same

1458
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: thing with other like the whole almond butter verse peanut

1459
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 1: butter thing like if you like almond butter, eat it

1460
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: stressed and maple almond butter specifically so good, but don't

1461
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 1: eat almond butter. Like I have clients who and it

1462
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: always makes you so excited, who come to me and

1463
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: they're like, I hate almond butter, but I've been eating

1464
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: it for so long, so I'm so excited that I

1465
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: can finally eat peanut butter again, or anything like, or

1466
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,439
Speaker 1: if like you're going to the grows shore and you

1467
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 1: don't have the money to afford all organic stuff and

1468
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: you finally have this almost approval of knowing you don't

1469
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,640
Speaker 1: have to eat even like thinking about like you know,

1470
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: Kale's having still in a t and I love I

1471
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 1: like kil but I don't like every salad I make

1472
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: with you. And so if you like iceberg lettuce, eat

1473
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 1: the ice sberg lettuce, and you're not gonna You're not

1474
01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 1: going to essentially live a longer life because as you

1475
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:03,639
Speaker 1: are putting romaine instead of ice freak, like, no, it's

1476
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: not that that's the same. You're fine. And but if

1477
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: you like gromaine better, you like caale, better, eat it.

1478
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: But don't do what I did and trick yourself thinking

1479
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: that carrots are doritos. Yes, exactly. And I've done that

1480
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: plenty of times where it's like, oh, I'm eating the

1481
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: salad because I have to eat it because it's gonna

1482
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: make me lose weight or it's the healthier thing. But

1483
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: in this we could talk about in part two. This

1484
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: is like I could go another tangent about this. If

1485
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: you're eating something that doesn't even really sound good, you're

1486
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: eating it more out of like, oh, this is the

1487
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 1: healthy thing I have to do it. You're not going

1488
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: to walk away from that meal satisfied. You're gonna walk

1489
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: away from the meal full, maybe if you ate enough

1490
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: to be full. I used to actually I use carrots

1491
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: in this example. So if you eat a bowl of

1492
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 1: carrots enough to be full, you're gonna walk away from

1493
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: the meal full, But you're not gonna be satisfied because

1494
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: you're just thinking about this. You're still gonna be thinking

1495
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 1: about food. And so what's going to happen is whether

1496
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 1: it's an hour later, the next day, whenever, it may be,

1497
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna end up over eating or going all out

1498
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 1: on some other food because you have this lingering satisfaction,

1499
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 1: like this lingering mental hunger of oh I wanted let's see.

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01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean it could even be grilled chicken and a

1501
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: salad and a baked potato. But but yeah, I told

1502
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: myself I couldn't drink through gallons of cellar juice. The

1503
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,879
Speaker 1: prophet told me it's going too and the prophets himself

1504
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 1: if you go to his website, has tons and tons

1505
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: and tons of celebrity endorsements and so, which is kind

1506
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: of similar to hold the Whole thirty, where I mean

1507
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 1: if anyone, if a celebrity gives a stamp of approval,

1508
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, Gwyneth Paltrow does it, so

1509
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 1: obviously I need to do it. So she's an actress.

1510
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: Not yeah, I'm not even gonna get into it now.

1511
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't hold myself back. Okay, Lastly, because we told

1512
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: all these people all the things that should not be doing,

1513
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 1: what advice do you give to do you have to

1514
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 1: give to people who want to live a life where

1515
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 1: their prioritizing their health more. And it does come from

1516
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 1: less of a place of lose weight, in more of

1517
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 1: a place I want to feel good or I want

1518
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: to um work on these deficiencies I have or what

1519
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 1: do you since this isn't the way we know that,

1520
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: what advice do you give one? One thing before you

1521
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: even go there. If it is body, body, body body,

1522
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: I want to change my body, obviously, go see a therapist.

1523
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: You see a therapist and a dietetian because that we

1524
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a correlation there. But what about those

1525
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 1: people who are like, Okay, it really isn't for me

1526
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: about just the body image. That's a piece, but there's

1527
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: another piece. What do you Yeah, So one thing I'll

1528
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 1: say is a lot of times and I guess I

1529
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: see this a little bit more with eten disorders, but

1530
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's even deeper than just like

1531
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: the body like it might be kind of what you

1532
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: and Annie talked about in y'all's episode about like trauma

1533
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: of y'all had a perfect example. If someone told you

1534
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: to drink a slimp fast and so you start to

1535
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 1: associate oh my gosh, there's something wrong with me because

1536
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 1: this outside like source told me this. So it's it's

1537
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: so much deeper rooted than that wich is why, like

1538
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: you said, going to a therapist is so important, and

1539
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: also going to a therapist that practice is from like

1540
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 1: a help that every size weight neutral approach. Who's so

1541
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 1: who's not going to tell you, oh, just lose weight

1542
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: and that will fix everything because we know that doesn't

1543
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 1: That's not how it happens. So what I say to

1544
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: people when they come to me, and this is so

1545
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: many of my clients come to me and they're like,

1546
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, I've tried every diet under the sun, and

1547
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: I know they work short term and then they don't work.

1548
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: So I'm ready to walk away from that, but I

1549
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know where to start, Like what do I do?

1550
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: So one thing I always say is really focusing on

1551
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: the behavior. So what we do a lot in our

1552
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,400
Speaker 1: first few sessions is really identify what are areas of

1553
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: your life where you can really focus on now, Like

1554
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: do you need to start eating breakfast every day or

1555
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: do you have a lot of food rules that you've

1556
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: been following that we need to really start to break

1557
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 1: free from and really start to make peace with food

1558
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: and let you be able to eat carbs and not

1559
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: feel guilty, or eat at eight pm and not feel

1560
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: bad that you didn't stop eating at six pm. So

1561
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 1: folks on behavior change. One second thing ties in is

1562
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: really working on what it means to support your body.

1563
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: So what it means to listen to your body and

1564
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 1: to support it and to respect it. If you eat

1565
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: a sleeve of oreos for breakfast, lunch, dinner, you're probably

1566
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: not going to feel that great because you're only getting

1567
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: carbs from that. You're not getting any other nutrients that

1568
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: your body needs to just function. And so that's a

1569
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: way to learn to respect your body and to nourish

1570
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: it of knowing, Okay, how can I know that I'm

1571
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: giving my body what it needs every meal, snacks throughout

1572
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: the dame, so that you feel empowered to know how

1573
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: the best of your body instead of a diet telling

1574
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,759
Speaker 1: you what you can and can't eat. And then also

1575
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: tying in the idea of respecting your body. So doing

1576
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: it from a way of just health, but not in

1577
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: a way that weight loss is you're what you're pursuing.

1578
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: That health doesn't mean smaller body. Yes, that health because

1579
01:23:56,120 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 1: that's yes, our culture loves to make people think that

1580
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: the thinner you are, the healthier you are, but it's

1581
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,759
Speaker 1: so not true because you could be in a small

1582
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: body but be very unhealthy, and you can be in

1583
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: a larger body and be very healthy. So health has

1584
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing to do with your weight, your size, the

1585
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:19,479
Speaker 1: number on the scale, any of that um. And then

1586
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 1: the third thing, which we've kind of touched on, is

1587
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: prioritizing your mental health because eating, again, it is so

1588
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: emotional and so really seeing. Okay, when I wake up

1589
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: at midnight and find myself in the kitchen eating ice cream,

1590
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that because I'm creating ice cream. I'm

1591
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,639
Speaker 1: doing that because maybe I've been dieting for so long

1592
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: and now I feel like I have the freedom to

1593
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,559
Speaker 1: finally do this. Or I had a really bad day

1594
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: and this is the only way I know how to

1595
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: cope with that. And so a lot of what I

1596
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: do with my clients, with the help of a therapist,

1597
01:24:51,720 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: do but a lot of what I do with clients

1598
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: is helped them realize what are ways outside about the food,

1599
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 1: Yes it's not about the food, and what are ways

1600
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: can help you cope with these emotions? Without using food.

1601
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:07,280
Speaker 1: So how can we cope with this feeling of sadness,

1602
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: this feeling of loneliness, this feeling of anger in a

1603
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,799
Speaker 1: way that's going to be more health promoting for you, Like, Okay,

1604
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm angry. If I take if I go walk around

1605
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 1: the neighborhood and just cool off, take some deep breath,

1606
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 1: that's gonna be way more health promoting than sitting down

1607
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 1: and eating a battic of Dorita's. I just feel like

1608
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: what you really said is if that everything comes to you, um,

1609
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: And what I also hear you saying is that we don't,

1610
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,959
Speaker 1: we won't and we can't learn how to treat ourselves

1611
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: in a helpful, caring, loving way just by listening to podcasts.

1612
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: So in that, uh, if some of this sounds like

1613
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 1: something that you want to talk more about, if there's

1614
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: parts of your story that we're hit on, if you're

1615
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: tired of dieting, if you're over that and you want

1616
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 1: something more for yourself than just to be able to

1617
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: fit into a certain size of pants for three weeks,

1618
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: then I recommend really actually diving into this wholeheartedly with professionals.

1619
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: That doesn't have to be necessarily me It doesn't have

1620
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: to be Dylan, but it surely can be Dylan. So

1621
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 1: Dylan where and I highly she comes highly recommended by me. Um,

1622
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: how can people reach you if they want to work

1623
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: with you? Yeah, so a few ways. You can go

1624
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 1: to Dylan Murphy my name which I guess they'll see this,

1625
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: but d y L A N. Dylan Murphy Nutrition dot

1626
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: com forward slash free call will bring you straight to

1627
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: the page to sign up or book a free call

1628
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,639
Speaker 1: with me, And the purpose of that is for us

1629
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: to chat more about where you currently are, what you're

1630
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: struggling with, and for me to tell you a little

1631
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: bit more about my services. And one thing I really

1632
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: want to say is if you're listening to this and

1633
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 1: you maybe you're listening to this and you're thinking, oh

1634
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: my god, I feel so bad for wanting to lose weight,

1635
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: or for trying all these diets, or for having these desires.

1636
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: I want you to feel validated in your desire to

1637
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 1: lose weight or your desire to diet, because, like I've

1638
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: said over and over again, and I beat it like

1639
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: a dead horse, but we live in a culture that

1640
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: promotes this idea of the thinner you are, the better

1641
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: you're you'll be so it. It's so valid that you

1642
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: would feel the need to lose weight or feel the

1643
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,800
Speaker 1: need to start this diet because that's the culture you're

1644
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: surrounded by. And I think which is also why it's

1645
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: so hard to get out of that, and why working

1646
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: with a professional is so helpful, because it really helps

1647
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: almost to bring a third party into your journey, into

1648
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 1: your story, and help you see what life can look

1649
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: like without diets UM. I also have a free resource

1650
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 1: on my website if you go to Delenmurphy Nutrition dot

1651
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: com slash guide there. I think it's probably like twenty

1652
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: plus pages and it talks all about a lot of

1653
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: what we've just talked through. But I know some people

1654
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: like reading things on paper, and it has a bunch

1655
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 1: of journal prompts and questions and things like that. So

1656
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: I encourage you also to download that UM because I

1657
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: also know financially maybe it's not maybe you're not at

1658
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: a place where you can seek out a professional, but

1659
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: you want to find something that's going to be more

1660
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: evidence space and really get you in the direction you're

1661
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: needing to go. And then also I postle lot on

1662
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: Instagram about all of this. Her page is great. Dylan

1663
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Murphy dot r D is where you can find me

1664
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram. It's wonderful. Um, so I want to say,

1665
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: first of all, thank you, thank you for having fun.

1666
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: And we could honestly probably sit here for three more hours,

1667
01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: so we'll definitely be doing around two and in that

1668
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: I would love you guys too. If you have questions,

1669
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,120
Speaker 1: or if there's stuff that was confusing to you or

1670
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: stuff you loved, or just like I want to know

1671
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,680
Speaker 1: about this thing or this thing that we didn't touch on,

1672
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: email me, message me. You can message me at at

1673
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 1: Three Courts Therapy as always, so we can get some

1674
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: of that stuff answered for you in that way too.

1675
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 1: Happy New Year again, Happy New Year, thanks for spending

1676
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 1: this day with me. I'm going to reiterate to you

1677
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: guys that just because it's a new year, it doesn't

1678
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: mean you have to have a new you, and that

1679
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: doesn't have and part of that new you doesn't also

1680
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 1: have to be a new body. They're very well. Maybe

1681
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the one that you have, um, just

1682
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 1: it might be the perspective you have on that. So

1683
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 1: have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your week. As always,

1684
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. I don't know who you are,

1685
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: but I love you very Oh oh my gosh, what

1686
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 1: a good conversation. I think we definitely got the point

1687
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: across that diets, especially the ones we talked about, don't

1688
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 1: work and are not the best idea. I also hope

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Speaker 1: that you heard that this is not about the weight

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Speaker 1: um weight is a symptom, and if you struggle through

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Speaker 1: this conversation, I want to encourage you to answer the

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Speaker 1: question what is it that I really want, and then

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01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 1: start from there. If it is to be smaller so

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Speaker 1: I can like myself better in any capacity at all.

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01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: I get that. I totally get that, and I want

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Speaker 1: you to know that I get that. Again, this makes sense,

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Speaker 1: and it does seem like that would get you what

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Speaker 1: you want based on how society positions weight loss, our

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Speaker 1: figures and happiness. But I'm telling you, as someone who

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Speaker 1: does this all day, every day for a living and

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Speaker 1: someone who has lived this and found out the hard

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01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 1: way pant sizes truly don't solve our problems and putting

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01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: our energy and that will end up causing us more

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Speaker 1: most of the time. I can't wait for the day

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Speaker 1: that truth is ahead and the fight towards loving ourselves

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Speaker 1: over the lies that diet culture breeds, and I do

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Speaker 1: think we will get there one day. We're getting close

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Speaker 1: or and until then, I encourage you to want more

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Speaker 1: for yourself. That there's anything I could say in closing

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Speaker 1: this out is want more for yourself than temporary solutions.

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Speaker 1: The cycle of dieting. If you've been at you know

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Speaker 1: it is exhausting and you and this is something that

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Speaker 1: I'm very sure of. You were created for more than

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Speaker 1: to be exhausted all the time, and I want you

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Speaker 1: to want more than that. Thank you guys so much

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