WEBVTT - Patrimonial Burden w/ Geneva Carr 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.000 Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.800 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:07.640 vicious felonies. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:10.240 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:22.640 Done done. 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.880 Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up n SVU podcast. 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.000 I'm Kara Klank and I'm Liza Traeger. Hello. 0:00:35.159 --> 0:00:37.680 Every week we talk about an episode of SVU, the 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.199 true crime it's based on, and then we have a 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:43.080 guest from the episode that we should chat with. And 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.559 now Kara and I are going to catch up because 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:50.080 we've been in separate parts of the country for weeks weeks. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.839 This is our longest break. Now that's not. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:54.880 Yeah, well when you were yeah, yeah, that's not true. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.520 We really have just recorded, but. 0:00:57.480 --> 0:00:59.280 It feels like a long it feels like a long 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.640 hours breakn't really been anywhere so in a long time. 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:08.080 So this has been great. Yeah, and hello, what oh, 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:09.240 I was just going to say. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.280 We are going to be at moon Tower. Yeah, in Austin, Texas. 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:17.280 We're so excited. Moontower Comedy Festival in Austin, Texas, which 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.000 you've done it before, right, I've been to it before. 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.920 It's such an amazing festival. So if you are in 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.440 Texas or the Austin, Texas area specifically, come see us. 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.560 We're going to do a live show. We're going to 0:01:29.560 --> 0:01:34.680 be doing stand up also as ourselves and I We're excited. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:39.320 Very excited. Yeah, Austin is great. I can't wait to eat. Well, 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.280 mostly it is sick. Austin has so much to offer. 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:44.080 But in my head, all I know is I know 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.480 there's a Jimmy John's there. Oh my god, because I 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.160 always see stay near the Jimmy John. So it's like, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.240 it's so sick of all the barbecue. There's great Japanese 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.840 restaurants there. There's so much, and I'm the Case so 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.280 I can't wait. I love Case. So I'm so glad 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.440 Chipotle finally got on the QSO game. That was like 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.520 a very weird move. How long it took them? 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:04.760 Same with us. 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.079 You know all places cheese fries brings people together. What 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:09.200 are people waiting for? 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:13.399 Yeah? Add more cheese everyone. If you're a well known. 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.400 Well I was in Raleigh. It took me eighty years 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.359 to remember how to say it rally. Yes, we did 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:21.480 get a couple of notes. 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.399 Yeah, I just I could. I could even there. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.400 It really took me weeks after I left even figured 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.840 it out, or a week. But there were so many 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.720 cute people at the show. Because of COVID and all that, 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.680 I couldn't get to talk to anybody, but there were 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:38.919 like two cutis to the left of me, and hello. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.240 I did tell them that they that he won most 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:43.720 Cute audience Member, So. 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:44.560 Hey, what's up? 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:47.760 You know we're talking to I also found out my 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:52.079 nephew's girlfriend listens, so, oh, what's up, girl. I hope 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:56.720 you're enjoying college. I know on a former episode, I 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.120 said you guys should break up and get over this 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:00.080 long distance stuff. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.480 But I take it back. You know, I think you 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:06.440 guys really are going to go the distance. That was 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:07.519 the first thing I thought of it. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:11.240 I was like, oh, the girlfriend that you said probably okay, No, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:12.200 I think it's great. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.760 Yeah, own your mistakes. They could make it. But I 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.000 didn't even know. I just meant it in the terms 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.400 of like my own like being young and all of that. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:25.200 Yeah, obviously wasn't a judgment on herself. But he said yesterday, 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.280 he's like, she loves you. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.560 I go, I don't know her. I'd never met her, 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.799 you know. Of course I stalk the Instagram. But he 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:33.640 was like, she listens to the podcast and. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:36.840 I went, uh, oh this might be a problem. 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.000 Yeah, it's great. I'm glad. 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.200 She also, what do you think about this? So you know, 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:44.080 my nephew is eighteen, he's going to college. He says, 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.960 I've muted all of them from my stories. He says, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.920 now that he's in college, I should. 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:54.000 Unmute him from my stories. Yeah you think you agree? Yeah? Okay, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.480 why not? Okay, yeah he knows I smoke weed. Yeah wait, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:58.280 because that's what I'm saying. 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.280 You're not like on there shooting up Heroin and like 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.680 you're you know, you're just kind of like living your life. 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.880 I think you're It's a great example of a cool 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.200 aunt and you should. 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.960 Just do it. Okay, I'll do it. I'll do it. 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:13.400 Yeah, I'll do whatever you say. And for those paying attention, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.039 I would like to say, my air conditioner is still broken. 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:20.159 That is over a month of that. So they hate me, 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:21.480 and I'm coming to you. 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:24.320 I'm coming to you live from a closet, so you 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.440 know we are getting it done for you. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:30.520 They hate me because I call them too much, because 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:33.760 they don't call me back enough, and so I called 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:35.600 yesterday and they wouldn't answer, and then I called from 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.919 the hotel phone and they answered, and I went, oh, 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.320 that's interesting, Wendy. I just called you twice, so it's 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:42.880 weird that you're picking up now, isn't it. 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.840 I told Wendy, I hope you listen to the podcast. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.520 I've been honest with you. I go, do you am 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.720 I too annoying? Am I calling too much? Then maybe 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.880 send me more update. I'm like, what you are doing 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:55.760 is immoral. Even though I'm out of town, I'm still 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.200 pretending I'm in there, like I don't know, yeah, but 0:04:58.520 --> 0:04:59.200 still fighting. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:01.240 Is anyone else in the building having a problem where 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.000 it's like your specific unit is fucked? 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.640 I think it's just my specific unity. 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.520 Yeah, that's so frustrated AdFest. Even though you are in 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.640 a closet right now. Your closet, your brother's closet is 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:13.840 bigger than my whole apartment. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.680 I would say it's quite large. It's a very like, Yeah, 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.640 have you guys been in the pool every day? Yeah? 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:23.200 My brother has a nice ass pool. And this is 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.960 like our new airbnb. We're just like coming here and 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.120 it's like an airbnb where people will hold my children 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.120 for me, so I love it, which is. 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:32.960 Very Oh my god, oh yeah, I was so mad. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.880 On my flight there was like ten to fifteen families 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.280 with kids. I'm like, this is too many kids. I 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.800 know you tweeted about it. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.440 It was so funny that, but when you tweeted me 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.320 that an eight year old, I'm sorry, your eight year 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:46.200 old does not eat extra help getting seated on the 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:48.599 plane unless there's look, don't come for me if there's 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:51.279 some kind of special needs issue. But what you made 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.160 it seem to me was that it was a regular, 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:57.120 fully neurotypical eight year old that just needed to, like, 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.960 was just getting on early. I don't think that's what 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:00.920 they mean when they say people with young children. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.320 No, but they can't ask like you can, even if 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:05.039 they say if you need time, like I can go 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.839 up there. If I had, like, if my ethics leaned 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:09.919 that way, I could totally do. 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:10.200 Yeah. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.320 You could be like I have restless leg I need 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.640 to get on first, yeah, or something like that. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.960 But my mom always told me don't lie about health. 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:20.599 Oh not good. You don't want to lie about health. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:26.960 You can lie about an invented person's health, but yeah, 0:06:27.040 --> 0:06:29.039 don't show anything on your bod. You know you don't 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.320 want any of that goofiness inside of yourself. You know, 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.480 I'm very into the evil eye. And our friend I 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.640 kept telling her, I'm like, you need you need the eye. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.400 I could tell people are going to be jealous of you. 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:44.919 And she got a stut. She got a little eye 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.120 like second whole earrings. So the eye is always with 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.080 you and no one can even see that you're wording 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:50.760 away they're evil. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.640 Ooh, you're confused. No, I want to know who it is. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:07:02.000 We have two friends, let's be honest. Okay, right, well 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:03.600 gee I thought there were more, but I guess now 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.679 at least it's now telling me I have two friends. 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:08.960 I'm saying who I could be tough. No, we have 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.760 a lot of friends. We have a lot of friends. 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.320 I got picked up in a red convertible vintage BMW 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:13.960 this weekend. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:18.720 By mean, I mean, come on, I deserved it. You 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.480 deserve that kind of My friend had that in high 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.360 school and she would pick me up once in a while, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.160 Like it wasn't her car all the time, it was 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:26.960 her dad's car. That once in a while he would 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.680 let her drive and she would pick me up, and 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:29.480 I'd be like I'm. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:30.840 In a movie like this is amazing. 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:35.400 Yeah, I've only been in two convertibles, but even as 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.960 an adult, you know it hasn't A convertible is cool. 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.440 No matter what, it's always exciting. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.880 I used to borrow my friends like Toyota Solara a 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.520 convertible and still thought I was the bomb dot com. 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.240 And that's like I think, literally the stupid car that 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.640 Michael Scott gets in the office to like show off 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.640 to everybody know what it is. 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.120 So I was watching The Office on the plane. It's 0:07:59.160 --> 0:07:59.960 a nice plane view. 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.520 So many people watch Fox News that I couldn't believe it. 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.960 Everywhere I looked there was a Fox News on the screen. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:09.000 Really. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.480 I know they're number one obviously in ratings, but I 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.960 was really shocked, like people that had books with that, 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.760 like people, young people, this hip guy next to me 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.760 with a cool Tasmanian Devil shirt on, like I don't know, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:24.240 everyone had Fox News on. 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.000 I don't know what the then diagram of Tasmanian Devil 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.200 fans and Republicans are, but I guess it's more of 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:37.800 a circle than we thought. Oh wow, yeah that is surprising. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:38.760 That is surprising. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.800 I'm like, well, I guess because where were you going from? 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.000 Where to wear? I don't even know anymore. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:48.040 Oh, I lay the Salt Lake to Chicago. Okay, well 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.440 maybe the Salt Lake connection the leg. 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.520 Yeah, that's actually I believe the exact flight that I 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.559 took my baby on to go to our friend's bachelorette party. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.320 I took a two leg flight to take a five 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.880 month bulcho about party. In case you're wondering who I 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.280 am as a person, No, Delta is very close to 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.440 losing me as a customer. I mean, I lost my status. 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:10.080 So now I'm anybody's game. I could literally move to anybody. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.199 I could. I could become a Mint person. I'm enemies 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:13.880 with Uber too. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.880 I scheduled a car over a day in advance, running 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:17.800 twenty minutes late. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.160 Excuse me, why would I order you early? 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:25.319 Yeah, these are stupid problems. I really apologize with what's happening. 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.400 I feel like we're just we're at the playground and 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.319 we're two moms that kind of know each other. That's 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:35.439 what we're talking about. Really was Okay, listen what I 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.280 notice it ended? That's Oh my god. I loved it. 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:41.680 I loved it. I loved it, loved it. Anyone that 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.920 says it's it's not for them or disappointing. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.760 Or not good. I'm like, maybe you're dumb. It was perfect. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:48.480 I know. 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.760 My my sister's fiance said, he's like, I just don't 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:52.959 like the show, and I'm like, but. 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.680 I need I love you. Don't do that. Don't say 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.160 that to me. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.640 And if he doesn't like it, as long as you 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.600 understand the value you and how good it actually is, 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:01.920 you know. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.599 No, but I don't think he does. He goes, I 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.600 don't get why you guys like the show? Well, is 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:07.760 he a problem? Would he be one of the white 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.120 lotus to hotel people? 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.800 Would he be? He is Steve's on? I mean Steve's on. 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.920 I thought we were supposed to kind of like him. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:17.360 And then when he did that second to last episode 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.880 when he had that little monologue about how hard it 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.280 is to be a white person and how we can't 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.560 really do reparations or whatever, I was like, and, yeah, 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:29.720 you're supposed to hate every single person in the show 0:10:29.720 --> 0:10:31.360 except for like Natasha Rothweld. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:32.240 Yeah. 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.800 But then someone I was reading interviews and obviously all 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.760 the articles, and someone's like, yeah, but why would you 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.160 want to go into business with that lunatic. You know, 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:45.600 I know that also seems like a tough situation of sorts. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:50.719 I don't know. She's so good, Jennifer Coolidge. I love 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:51.880 her so much. Oh. 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:54.720 I also wanted to say fuck you to anyone that 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.440 message just going, oh, just add another face to your 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:58.880 face unlocking on your phone. 0:10:58.920 --> 0:10:59.920 It'll work. That's a lot. 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.959 I tried to do it with a mask on and 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.720 my sunglasses, and my phone kept saying face substruction, the 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.320 face is obstructed, and refuse to take a photo. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.319 So fuck you Apple, fuck you everyone. 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.880 What a dumb invention. I can't wear sunglasses and open 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.319 my phone. 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:21.120 But I feel like it worked for me the other 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.920 day after you told me that when I was wearing 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:23.960 my sunglasses. 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.760 Okay, well the mask, I get the mask. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:29.720 It's not gonna work, that's fine, that's fine, But what 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.880 about sungle I just think this is a dumb invention. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.040 Yeah no, And a lot of people actually wrote a 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.160 message of saying fucking right on, Lisa, there are with 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:41.080 you on fuck it face ID. You can also just 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:42.800 turn it off and go back to your old ways. 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.760 But what's the old way? A code entering in your password, 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:48.240 that's not the old way. My old way was a thumb. 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.400 I touched the thumb. Oh I never. 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:55.640 Used the thumb. Oh I did use the thumb. You're right, Damn, 0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:57.960 I don't want to type in a long ass code. 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.360 I used to have a phone that you could lied 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:02.840 and not yeah, and that was like kind of good. 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:06.400 But I was just everyone got my hopes up. But 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.440 maybe I'll try. I'll keep forgot about the fucking fingerprint. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.560 You're right, that was the old way. I felt really old. 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:15.079 Mym I had so many problems. I was like taking 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.199 photos of my nephew, like I just didn't know how 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.839 technology worked. And then the children fixed it in ten 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:25.480 seconds and it wasn't actually a problem, you know, truly graduated. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.440 And then if anyone that follows me on Instagram blend 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:32.000 Jet not a not a sponsor, but love it. What 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:36.199 is it? It is a portable, tiny little blender that 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:40.720 is us. You told me about this, Yeah, fifteen blends 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.520 per charge and it washes itself. You know, you put 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.920 soap and you blend it and it washes so anywhere 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:50.560 you want, you make smoothies anywhere you want. Wow, And 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.520 it's pink and cute and quiet. Like someone was like, yeah, 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.400 fill it with the fruits and veggies, and then at 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.280 the airport put ice and a liquid in it and 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.640 you can blend it at the like anywhere you want. 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.400 I've been making shakes in my hotel room. 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:07.000 Damn yes, Blenjet sponsor US. We're here out here doing 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:07.559 it for free. 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.719 Sponsor US. 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.560 But it's like, yeah, our one friend posted about it, 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.320 and now I know like ten people who have bought it, 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.720 and now we're on this Blenjet journey together. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:16.839 All right. 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.920 Well, a chocolate peanut butter shake with a banana, what's better? 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.640 That's amazing for the girl on the go. Yeah, this 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:25.520 is all right. 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.600 I feel this has been the most uneventful intro of 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.400 all time, and I need to apologize to all the listeners. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.840 You know what, Lisa, We're not going to be able 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.760 to come to these people every week and be like, 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:38.240 here's the magical shit that's been going on. Sometimes we 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.680 have just a solo ass week where I've just been 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.360 soaking in a pool and I'm sitting in a closet 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.679 and you had to take some flights with too many kids. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.240 That's what happened this week. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:49.480 I know. 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.520 Oh God, but I have my I have a jeep 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.440 to use this one, and you know what, next week 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.480 I'm doing like family Skokie week one week, and then 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:01.640 next week's Chicago Friends Week, and then you guys will 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:02.480 have some stories. 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:03.480 Yeah. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.559 I can't wait for the hot goss coming out of 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.439 the Chicago street. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:07.200 Yeah, I'm gonna go. 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:11.240 To the Soho house pool. Ooh, I'm go go to 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.440 the beach. I'm gonna get a Jimmy Johnson witch. I 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.200 have great plans for next week. Wow, I can't wait. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.040 All right, Well, let's get started, because this is a 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:24.280 good app. We got a lot of info, an amazing guest, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:25.640 and I'm excited. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.840 I love the guest this week so much. Wait, JK, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:28.880 I have nothing. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.400 But I didn't even wait long enough for the joke 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:32.840 to even to fucking go through. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.920 Oh you know what's embarrassing. I'm looking at my sleep 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:37.760 mask from the plane. It's the only one I could buy, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.800 and it says dreaming of first class on it. 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.480 Like, how embarrassing? Oh that's embarrassing. I'm sleeping in the 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.680 main cabin and it says dreaming first class on my 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.760 thing on my sleep mask. They gave that to you. No, 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.720 I had time to like stop at CBS. 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.520 Before the flight, I'm like sleep mass, sleep mask and 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:59.280 this is the only one they had classiest classes a 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.080 classes bullshit sleep match. 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:05.960 Okay, now for real, on the second try, we're starting. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:15.560 All right, season seventeen Patrimonial Burden, and I'm not telling 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.520 you the episode number. Hulu plays some games here again 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.480 and I refuse, I refuse to be thrown him to 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:28.000 these false numbers. So seventeen patrom O'Neil Burnen and it 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.560 opens up on like a creepy, creepy thing. And we've 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.840 seen some creepy fucking shit on this show, but this 0:15:32.960 --> 0:15:36.120 is it's like a grown ass man looks like he's 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.520 marrying a young girl, but instead of just a loose 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.920 old man, it is a dad making his daughter do 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:45.160 his ceremony to never fuck anyone until marriage and that 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.880 her pussy belongs to her father or until another man 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:54.080 can take it. So that makes sense, Like, like do 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.760 they ever say their ideas out loud before they do this? 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:01.400 I just don't understand it. Let's just like I don't 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.560 even think these kids would ever think about any of 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:07.000 these situations or fucking or anything. And now you're just 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:10.680 you're putting all this pressure on these kids not to fuck. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.680 You don't fuck for yourself, you fuck for your dad 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:18.840 like it's uh, it's I hate it. And then you 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.000 see it opens up and there's a ton of these freaks. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.000 So the audience can you know, vibe that there's it's 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.920 a cult situation. People are smiling and acting like this is. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.760 Normal, but really quick, can I ask you? 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.920 Because when I was growing up, not even necessarily in 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.560 a religious way, but there were daddy daughter dances. And 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.360 I have a feeling you're gonna tell me that no, 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:39.800 you and your dad did not ever go to a 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:40.680 daddy daughter dance. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:45.400 We know, but I'm gonna bet whatever possessions I have 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.160 that those people are religious nuts. You're not a secular 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.360 person in this country going to daddy daughter dances. 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:56.960 Well, in my well equally disturbing in my town. Not equally, 0:16:57.040 --> 0:17:00.640 but also disturbing in my town. It was called Indian Incesses. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.640 Was like some kind of and definitely culturally appropriate of 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:05.400 like I don't even it was definitely not about India 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:08.040 the country. It was about Native Americans and they had 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:09.960 a daddy daughter dance and I wasn't. 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.880 Part of that group. And it may have been religious 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:12.600 and I don't remember. 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.280 You're probably right, it definitely was, but like I just 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.600 remember being like, why would that be fun? 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.159 And they'd all be like, yeah, this weekend's the daddy daughter. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.359 Dance, and I'd be like, wait why, and I'm sure 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:24.199 we have like listeners that are gonna come for us 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:25.320 and be like, no. 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:26.560 I did it with my dad and it was actually 0:17:26.600 --> 0:17:27.159 really sweet. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.119 But like I just there's I cannot decreepify a daddy 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.360 daughter dance in my mind, Like there's just no way. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:34.919 I don't understand why. 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.240 Those are done and they're so and maybe if it's 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:44.119 like a disco theme, yeah, okay, go ahead in the eighties, 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:47.600 but are you all wearing white nightgowns and getting rings? 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.400 Okay, then it's not okay, right right? 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.600 But someone I was just watching someone else about daddy 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:56.880 daughter dances. If they don't get their love from their dad, 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.920 they're gonna get somewhere out or is it this this 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.840 I don't even remember, but I feel like I had 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.960 another weird daddy situation happening on Instagram or something. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:09.000 I was trying to work on a. 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:10.919 Joke about this a couple of years ago, just with 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:12.640 like daddy daughter dances I. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.720 Did an Indian princess. It was not crazy. 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:19.240 You did yes, my dad, Well, I was trying to 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:20.120 be respectful. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:21.320 It was lovely. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.480 You did weekend trips with dad and some daughters, and 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:24.680 you went to summer camps. 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:25.720 I loved it. 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:30.920 Well, she's back in once there's summer camp. Kara's on board. 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.440 Okay. It's like horse nighting and camping and. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.120 Be sure, okay, sure, and that's fine, like quality time 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.840 with your dad, not for me, but okay, but the 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:40.640 dance part. 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:41.720 Maybe your dad. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.159 Can just be doing stuff day to day and you 0:18:44.160 --> 0:18:46.040 wouldn't have to do excursions. 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:52.160 So yeah, that's something also, but also you good father 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:52.640 every day. 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:55.439 You wouldn't have to go, you know, grind with your 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.040 daughter on the weekend to show how close you are. 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:00.680 Okay, that's what I'm saying. 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:04.800 Like a camping trip, whatever, a hike, that's fun, I 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:05.840 guess for you. 0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:08.360 But like a dance, I don't understand. 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.240 A dance is so like a date scenario, like even 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.439 I did like ballroom cotillion type thing, and it's like 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.200 the boy comes up and asks the girl to dance, 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.760 like it's all it's all very dainty. So I just 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.800 don't get the dance part of it, Like did you 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.639 do that with your dad, Hannah? 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.359 I think it was more we put on skits and things. 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.679 It was through the YMCA, Like this is kiotic and 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:32.360 now it's called Why Guides. Just it's no longer called 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:32.960 Indian Prince. 0:19:33.119 --> 0:19:33.720 I wonder why. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:36.680 Yeah, yeah, you know what I did with my dad. 0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.320 We went to the aquarium. That's what we did. I 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.440 took I took Rosie to the aquarium yesterday. We would 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.600 go play racquetball. That's what my dad and I did. 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.560 We would go rollerblading, you know what I mean. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.440 You never felt the need for him to touch you 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:50.879 on your hips and sway gently to lady in red. 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:52.840 I know. We just. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:58.359 Would sneak into the pool he worked at, Like, come on, yeah, 0:19:58.400 --> 0:19:59.960 you can find shenanigans to do with your da. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:03.480 That's not slow dancing. Let's move on. Sorry, Okay, I 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:04.080 mean there. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.960 I bet there's gonna be a lot of asides because 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:09.320 this just keeps getting freakier and freakier as it all 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.280 goes down. So then you see a logo on the 0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:17.119 bottom of the screen of this dance and it's you 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.320 could tell it's like a TV logo, like how it 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:22.639 would say NBC News but instead it says Bakers doesn't. 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.800 So it's a TV show and Baker's doesn't. I think 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:28.720 it's like a funny game, you know, like, oh, look, 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.840 there's thirteen of us. And then I'm assuming we all 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:34.560 know exactly what this one is based on. You know, 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.159 some it's like, oh could it be this? Could it 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.360 be that? What about this cry? We know it's the Douggers. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.520 We know it's one hundred percent based on the Duggers. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.600 And the only thing I remember about the dug did 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:44.159 you ever watch it? 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:44.480 Kara? 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:45.320 Never? 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.600 Okay, I did, And the only thing I remember I 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:53.560 remember a few things. But they ate very bad. They 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.679 didn't eat well. It's not like there's a ton of 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.320 us and we're on the farm. They would go to 0:20:57.359 --> 0:20:59.680 ald and buy tons of frozen food and they just 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:04.080 would have tater talk castle roles constantly, and it was 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.280 like an assembly line of all these kids, and each 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:09.159 one was in charge of something and they would just 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.440 eat gray, mushy tater talk cast roles. 0:21:12.920 --> 0:21:18.240 Oh god, yes, it was fucked. It was fucked. 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.680 It was pretty disgusting and yeah, just made by tiny 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:26.240 little child hands. So back from the duggars were onto 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:27.639 the Baker's dozen. 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:28.560 Oh god. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:29.880 And so the. 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.600 Girl, the main girl, she has half down, half up 0:21:33.640 --> 0:21:36.680 hair really long, which is religious hair. You can that's 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:41.200 religious hair from a mile away. There's purple and lavender everywhere. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.359 And the parents are doing like a cutaway confessional type 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.719 thing where they're talking about how this is normal and 0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.040 good and there's no holier relationship than between dad and daughter, 0:21:50.520 --> 0:21:52.560 even though they truly came out of my body. 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:57.160 But okay, so nothing holier. 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.040 You know, it did come out of my vagina, but 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:01.040 holy this. 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:03.159 Baby did grow inside of me. But okay. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.000 So the parents' names we learn are Frank and Pam. Great, 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:09.920 I don't care, no, I care. 0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:10.480 This is good. 0:22:10.880 --> 0:22:13.159 The Virtue Ball is in New York City and they 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.520 can't wait to go, so they're traveling to New York 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:16.120 for this. 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.400 This is like also such a stretch for the show. 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.040 Yeah, these balls would just take place in your shitty 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.199 like small rural town or whatever in Arkansas, like you 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.240 would not be like we have, like these kind of 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:28.480 people think New York is like a den of iniquity. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:31.080 The fact that in this episode they go to New York, 0:22:31.080 --> 0:22:34.199 like multiple times is very like, how can we make 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:35.159 SVU cover this? 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.440 Yeah, there's one moment we will get to where it's 0:22:38.480 --> 0:22:41.000 like this is why they go there, and it's pretty 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:41.919 funny and we'll get to it. 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.040 So they're in New York. Lene is thirteen. 0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:49.360 She's wearing classic religious outfit, long sleeves, long skirt, and 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:51.480 she's holding a stuffed pig. 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:52.320 So she's a kid. 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:55.359 She shouldn't even be thinking about who she's gonna be 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:56.080 fucking like. 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:56.800 That's my thing. 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:59.760 It's like you're ap preaching all this chastity and all 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:02.960 these things, but that's not even on your kid's mind, 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:05.639 Like you are implanting it, I know. 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:08.560 But I think they're like, let's get that going now. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:08.919 You know. 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.320 They're like, get it going before they even think of it, 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.840 so that when the dick presents itself, they know just 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:15.560 swat it away. 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.639 It's just fresh in my mind because I'm on Instagram 0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:19.840 all day. But there's a lot of things where people 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.639 are like homosexuality, like leave it out of the kids, 0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:26.800 And it's like, honestly, is it just like sexuality. It 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.480 seems like to these hetero religious people is thrown on 0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:32.359 their children from such a young age. Like you guys 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.880 are actually the creeps, Like why are you doing this? 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.720 You know, and they think they're like morally superior or something, 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:42.480 but you're truly forcing, like you're the creeps. You're forcing 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.639 these sexual ideas and restrictions. 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:47.280 On kids who would have just been chilling. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:50.280 Yeah, you know when people are like, look it's your 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.879 girlfriend and boyfriend. Look how cute, and it's like you're 0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.920 that's the thing, Like dancing shit could be a secular, 0:23:56.680 --> 0:24:00.960 like non sexual fun thing, but it's not because they 0:24:01.000 --> 0:24:03.119 force it, you know, like you should be able to 0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:07.919 dance with an uncle without being creeped out, but that 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.160 is not the case. So we see them getting off 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:12.520 the bus in New York. There's tons of luggage, so 0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.240 much luggage, and the girls are all talking about how 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:17.680 they have to save themselves for marriage. Even though sex 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.560 does involve multiple people. For some reason, the guys never 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:25.240 talk never talked about it. The concept of virginity and 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.480 chastity is not for men. But it's like then who 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.200 are they fucking? Like what is happening? I just hate 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.520 all of this is like truly boils my blood, Like 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.560 this is Atli's a hot button for sure, It definitely is. 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.680 So they're holding hands outside in a circle, probably praying. 0:24:42.160 --> 0:24:44.800 All the sisters are helping the girl who's daddy day dance. 0:24:44.880 --> 0:24:46.639 This is so to me. I'm like, how many of 0:24:46.640 --> 0:24:49.000 these dances have they done? There's so many of these kids, 0:24:49.000 --> 0:24:51.280 so they're just like hop into New York to do 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.040 these dad and then she goes, I hope my daddy 0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:53.960 approves of my hair. 0:24:54.359 --> 0:24:55.320 It's twisted. 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.359 Oh did you ever see the I don't really watch 0:24:58.400 --> 0:24:59.959 Say Yes to the Dress, but I hate the one 0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.280 where the dad has to approve the dress. 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.080 Yeah, that doesn't bother me as much. 0:25:05.520 --> 0:25:07.880 They're like min desong as my daddy likes it, he's 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:08.600 paying for it. 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:09.520 I'm like yes. 0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:14.639 Because those episodes also include annoying mothers, weird sisters that 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.080 are jealous, a gay best friend who thinks he knows everything. 0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.479 Like there's so much judgment on that show. It's not 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.240 so glaring. Yeah, where it's like, Okay, this bitch has 0:25:24.240 --> 0:25:27.600 a dad, that girl has a you know, an ugly sister, 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:28.960 so let's have it. 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.320 It's not so. 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.560 Much just like dads and if your dad and it's 0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:36.719 whoever's paying, usually that's who I guess who. 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.280 Yeah, there's just something gross about the girls coming. 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.320 Out being like, what do you think, daddy, and like, 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:43.879 I don't know. The dad's like too much boob, Like 0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:44.320 I don't like. 0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.159 This is also telling that we have a weird relationships 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:51.399 with our fathers. Some people listening to this are like, 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.920 I would totally no, it's weird. Don't take a bad 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:54.879 wedding dress shopping. 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.359 It's so fucked up. I would go alone. 0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:01.959 I wouldn't want anyone's fucking opinions unless you know my 0:26:02.000 --> 0:26:06.760 mom had a dying wish. Oh, okay, So the kid 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:10.280 gets a tiara, which I like. So then we meet 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.760 more of the kids. Summer is fifteen. There's Rick, there's 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.240 Timber and they're married to each other and they've only 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:19.560 kissed each other. And then there's Graham who's seventeen. And 0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.280 this is actually a YouTube category. 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:21.960 I don't know if you know. 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:26.199 About this, but people that save their first kisses to marriage, 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:29.439 you can watch them kiss It's like a category. So 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.040 you watch people who have never kissed in their lives 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:34.840 kissing in front of everyone in the church for the 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:39.320 first time, and they're terrible kissers. It looks horrific. They 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:43.600 look like fish like being pounded against each other like 0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:46.679 it's really sickening. And so, because then it's adults. When 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:48.200 kids don't know what they're doing. It's like you're in 0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:48.919 junior high. 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.399 Or learning to kiss, right, these are grown people marrying 0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:53.119 each other, kissing for the first time in front of 0:26:53.160 --> 0:26:53.760 their families. 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:56.440 So, oh my god, this is horrific. It's a risic. 0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:58.399 I can't the douche chills. 0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:03.200 Okay, wait, I was gonna ask a question, and now, oh, Timber, what. 0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:03.800 Do you think of the name? 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:05.679 I feel like that's right out of the Sarah Palin 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.320 name handbook. I feel like she should have had a Timber. 0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:12.040 I know, but I love the song Timber by Kesha. 0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:12.320 Oh. 0:27:12.359 --> 0:27:14.480 I know you do because you cleared a dance floor 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:15.240 with it one yeah. 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.920 Yeah, So I like Timber kim and it reminds me 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:24.320 of a bo Jack Horseman character named Kimber, So I 0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:25.520 kind of like it. 0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.960 I'm on your list for baby names, got it? Timber? 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.800 So the dad is spinning his daughter and she's not 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.080 feeling good, and she's like stop stop, and he doesn't 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:35.639 listen to her. 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:36.480 I wonder why. 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.119 I wonder why this man doesn't listen to his daughter 0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.400 who's asking him to please stop, you know what I mean. Yeah, 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.760 just pretty telling, and then she passes out. She wobbles, 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:50.119 passes out, amazing acting for a young child, like truly 0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.280 just passes the fuck out. So Chris Elliot suddenly on 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.280 camera and he runs in and for those who don't know, 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.680 he's in a scary movie too, and he has a 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:01.760 little and he mixes the mashed. 0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:02.360 Potatoes with it. 0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:05.520 So but most recently, Shit's Creek. He's the mayor of 0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:06.240 the town and. 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.720 That's very popular show. Oh yeah, all my references are 0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.080 twenty five to thirty years so sorry. 0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:19.840 But he is not dressed in Purity Ball outfits, so 0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.440 you're like, who is this guy. He's dressed in secular 0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:24.760 clothing and he obviously knows this family. 0:28:24.800 --> 0:28:26.359 He's like, call the cops, give her air. 0:28:26.600 --> 0:28:29.240 He's actually trying to help out and we will learn 0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:33.040 more about him later. So, Benson, Finn, and Caries you 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:35.840 are doing some walking and talking, chatting about what's happened. 0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.720 Carisi tells Benson it was the fourth kid out of ten, 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.040 and Benson is horrified when she finds out about the 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:48.040 Virtue Ball. Obviously we're all on the same page, like 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:49.920 we wouldn't be disagreeing with her queen. 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:53.080 So she's also like what and Casey. 0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.280 Explains it to her and says it's when girls promised 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:59.040 to be virgins for their daddy. And Finn is like, well, 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.080 you know, so much for that promise because ladies three 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:08.040 months pregnant dune dune dum sous. Because you know they're 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:09.080 not into abortions. 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.320 Yeah, yeah, if someone has long sleeves and long. 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:14.520 Skirt, they don't love abortion. 0:29:16.200 --> 0:29:18.520 So then Benson looks back at the family and they're 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.800 in a circle praying in front of the vending machines. 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.360 Credits. That's a pretty jam packed opening scene. 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.840 Yes, yes, And we come back and we have Benson 0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.200 and Finn talking to the parents and the parents are like, 0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:32.520 we didn't call the cops, and she's like, yeah, the 0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:38.760 doctor did obviously. And then, off topic of this child 0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:43.040 that's pregnant, Benson's highlights are poppin' long hair later season, 0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.880 and I'm wondering if she'll ever go short again. 0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.080 I feel like she likes long hair and she's never. 0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.720 I don't think she will now because, like, not to 0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.840 be insulting in any way, but her face has gotten 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:55.560 like a little bit white. She doesn't have quite the 0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.520 angular like face that she had in her younger days, 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.080 and I don't I don't think that that's gonna work. 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:03.600 I know, but they usually say when you become older, 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:05.920 to cut your hair, but she defies all odds. 0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:10.680 Yeah, is able to rock long hair. So who are 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:13.440 these rules? Keep your hair how you want. It's fucked up. 0:30:14.800 --> 0:30:18.000 So Benson's like, okay, yeah, that's a thirteen year old 0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:23.360 pregnant person. So yeah, we're obviously involved, and the dad goes, 0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:27.320 this is a family matter, and it just is confusing 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:31.520 to me because suddenly you know, it's purity Ball, Purity Ball, 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.560 purity ball, virginity, virginity, and then your kid's pregnant and 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:37.680 you're like, it's actually fine. So it's just like, I 0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.720 don't understand the tone of being so into virginity and 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:44.440 then being so chill when your kid is fucking pregnant. Yeah, Like, 0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:46.040 don't you want to find the person. 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.560 Who did it? You fucking hypocrites? 0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:49.840 Like how do you travel to go to a purity 0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.520 ball and then try to sweep a pregnant kid under 0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:52.920 the rug. 0:30:53.000 --> 0:30:54.960 It's like it just doesn't make sense. 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.080 And there's tons of these moments in this show that 0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.480 are like you are not doing you know, it's like 0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.000 the mental gymnastics people do to believe in the shit 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:04.960 they believe in. Yeah, so the parents won't let Benson 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.640 or anyone talk to the kid, and it's like, you can't, 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:11.240 she's upset, and they're like no, we have to and 0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:14.320 they're like no, and the parents say, well, we want 0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:16.200 to talk to Lane first. She doesn't even know she's 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.600 pregnant yet, and Finn is like, yeah, but she knows. 0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:22.160 How she got pregnant. Hello. 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:24.880 Mom says, we don't need your help and she's our 0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.240 daughter and we'll take care of her. And Benson explains 0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:30.040 how she got pregnant is a crime, and the mom says, 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.280 if she was hurt, she would tell us, but it's 0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:33.120 like she didn't. 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.760 She's pregnant. What the fuck? Three months have gone by. 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.440 She has not told you what happens. 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:40.920 So then they try to get scooped from the doctor 0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:43.080 and the doctor is like, I couldn't get a second 0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:43.400 with her. 0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.280 The parents were there the whole time and I couldn't 0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.000 talk to her. And then the. 0:31:46.960 --> 0:31:49.480 Parents and detectives keep talking. They're like listen, we're good 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.080 and we keep a good eye on our kids. 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.880 Back off, and it's like, no, your kid is pregnant. 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:55.400 You did a bad job. 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:59.400 Like yeah, it's a Twilight sub No one makes sense, 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.400 but they believe it anyways. So Benson asks like, hey, 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.440 is she alone with any boys? And they say no, 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:08.640 of course not, she's homeschooled. Then runs in the pastor 0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:14.520 perfect timing SVU style, and he is disgusting obviously, and 0:32:14.560 --> 0:32:16.360 he's like, listen, we're going to handle this with the 0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:20.040 local authorities. And but you don't think he's a little 0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:24.440 bit handsome? No, I thought the pastor was a little cute. 0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:28.400 No, that hairdoo to me? Is you have seen you? Yeah? 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.600 Not great the fashion, the hair is not great. But 0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:32.479 like facially I was like, oh, this is like a 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:33.280 handsome man. 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.720 That's a pastor. No, he's gonna have like a Jeffrey 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:37.600 Koeberg career. This is a creep. 0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.040 You will be paying creeps from now on. I will 0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.720 never see him. Now I understand my mother. My mother 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.840 always hates the people that play villains, and I think 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:47.840 she's crazy. 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:51.640 And now I am her. The transition is complete. 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.880 Yeah, So he says they're going to handle with local authorities. 0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.560 Which is actually the first time I caught this little 0:32:57.640 --> 0:33:00.480 foreshadow nugget and I've seen this episode like seven times, 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.280 but this is a foreshadow. So this pastor is also 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:11.840 the family's lawyer. Perfect. So we're back at the precinct. 0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.920 Benson's pissed. She's very frustrated, and with her is Rollin's baby, 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.720 Dodds and Finn and Creesy, and Rollins brings up the Duggers, 0:33:19.720 --> 0:33:21.520 and I really like when they do this, when they 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.160 bring up like a real life case, like yeah, I 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.120 think Rolin's brought up Jimmy Saville once and so I 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.760 just I love when they bring it back down to reality. 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.280 It also is easy for us that way too, assuming 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:36.720 a which case to cover and Careese is. 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.240 Like, listen, leave them alone. They just love God, they're 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:39.840 just nice. 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:43.080 And Dodds is like, whatever the parents said, no, who cares, 0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.200 and Benson reminds him like, you know, she's thirteen, so 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:48.760 it doesn't really matter, and Dodds goes, yeah, but I've 0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.000 tried to penetrate religious Jews and they're very secretive and 0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.080 they're not talking, and that's true too. Yeah, but instead 0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.360 of stopping, we love Benson and why it's because she 0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:01.040 goes That's why we push harder. You don't say, oh, 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.200 there's a religious sect not letting us in. Okay, I 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.200 guess we're gonna let all these kids be abused. 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:09.280 Yeah, this isn't Benson's first time tangoing with a religious sect. 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:13.000 I mean she's infiltrated the Jews before, and she's not 0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:14.719 afraid to do it to the Christian. 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:17.000 Yeah. I mean. 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:22.440 Also, like we've learned and this was a listener or suggestion, 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:24.400 and it's true, they have to have characters have the 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:26.960 opposite point of view to get these lessons across to 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:31.600 the public. But Dodds is so annoying. She is so 0:34:31.760 --> 0:34:36.600 annoying this whole episode, Like she's your fucking boss. Okay, 0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.440 just do what she says. But he shouldn't be a 0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.919 cop if your thing is like, oh, they're secretive, Okay, 0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.319 I guess we have to let kids suffer. Like go 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.319 on your fucking business trajectory. So Benson's like, listen, this 0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:50.760 girl's life is insular as hell. Who does she spend 0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.840 time with? Those are the suspects. So it's a predator 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.480 with access, but they're kind of stuck because it's outside 0:34:56.480 --> 0:35:00.040 of the jurisdiction. But Rollin's is doing some internet searches 0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:02.080 and she finds a blog and then they blog the 0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:04.200 shit out of their lives. And they were in New 0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:06.520 York around the time that she got pregnant, which gives 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:09.680 them reason to investigate to see what's up. And Rollin's 0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:11.960 is pregnant in this episode begging to go to work. 0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.359 Everyone's like, sit down, relax, do paperwork, and she's like, no, 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.080 I gotta go work, and she goes, I'm the only 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:21.880 one who watches this fucking show. Okay, I have the 0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:25.040 inside scoop and they make her sit down. 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:26.720 That's the thing about Rollins. 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.920 When we finally get Kelly Giddish on the show, we 0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.240 have to be like, your character knows everything about media 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:32.960 and pop culture. 0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:35.400 Like she's always like that's the monster, Like she always 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:36.399 like knows. 0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:39.760 Who the athletic people are, she knows she watches American Diva. 0:35:39.880 --> 0:35:42.759 I mean, like she knows all pop culture stuff. Maybe 0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:43.799 we should give her another chance. 0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:49.120 So Intent, which was what we're talking about, was on 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:52.560 TV yesterday. Truly watched it and then a friend facetimeed 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.640 me and she goes, So you're just never sick of SVU. 0:35:54.840 --> 0:35:56.719 I go, no, it's a sickness. I don't know what 0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:57.200 to tell you. 0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.680 It's also episodes we fully covered in depth, and I'm 0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:06.000 just like sitting pushing plans back, watching Blue Glacier episodes, 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.120 watching on multiple screens, and it's like I put off 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:16.600 SVU work sometimes to just watch other SVU episodes and 0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:18.480 it's like, just watch the one you have to watch, 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.040 but I'm like, nah, like it is pretty crazy. 0:36:21.560 --> 0:36:23.840 I love finding one. I love finding one where I'm like, 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.360 I don't remember the ending of this one. I remember 0:36:26.400 --> 0:36:29.960 sort of what's happening, but what happens It's like Christmas. 0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.960 Well, I was watching the Amy Smart one and I 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:33.359 was jumping up and down. 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:34.000 I couldn't sit. 0:36:34.040 --> 0:36:36.880 I got off my bed and started pacing and shaking 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:40.000 like I hadn't seen it eight times, like I. 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:40.680 Couldn't believe it. 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.800 But I was like, what, I don't remember what happened, 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.239 Like it was just like a shoot off. It's just 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:48.200 great television. So anyway, I mean, this is gonna be 0:36:48.239 --> 0:36:50.319 so long. This alone is going to be eight hours long. 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:51.040 I can't stop. 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:54.080 Okay, so much opinions out of this son, so Phil 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:56.400 Finnan dot Oh my god, if I call him Phil 0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.000 Finn and Dodds. What if, remind, what if I get 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.279 a shark iced tea tattoo? Because I've wanted a shark 0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.759 tattoo and and an SVU? What if I get a 0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:10.400 little shark that looks like iced tea? Wow, Well, according 0:37:10.440 --> 0:37:11.600 to your face, that's a bad idea. 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.239 Well, I just I don't understand what that would look 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:14.760 like in my mind, I'm trying to put it together. 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:18.040 Well, I don't know, we have iced tea spatial features? 0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:22.960 Yeah, but then a Finn, Yeah, okay, I'll talk to Carly. 0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.839 Your tattoos always turn out great, so who knows. 0:37:25.920 --> 0:37:28.239 Oh wow, that's nice of you all. Not always red 0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.680 hot chili pepper on my ankle for life. Okay, well 0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:36.319 that's a taste level thing, but you know, all right, 0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.520 So Fin and Dodds go check things out, and the 0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.280 elevator doors closed, and Dodds tries to talk shit about Olivia, 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:49.000 and it's like to Finn, yeah, they've known each other 0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:54.240 for two decades. This is Chauvin's behavior. 0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:54.439 Though. 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:56.920 This is the thing, like this guy thinks that this 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.480 other guy is just gonna think this woman is crazy. 0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.560 But it's like gnaw bitch. Finn's on Olivia's side. And 0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:07.680 this has happened to me where someone tried to talk 0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.600 shit about our friend Megan to me and I was like, 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:12.760 are you out of your mind? 0:38:12.800 --> 0:38:13.120 Bitch? 0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.279 And then she acted like a victim because I was 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.920 not nice to her, But I'm like, you are insane 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.680 to talk shit about a clear like most of my 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.640 Instagram photos are with her. Why would you talk shit 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.000 about Meghan to anyone else but not to me? 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:27.719 Like you will have a problem. 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.960 Wait and side note, our friend Meghan had a girl 0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:35.040 talk shit about her to her. Yeah, this girl was 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.520 so drunk that she went do you know this girl Meghan? 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.880 And like she was talking to Meghan? That is one 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:42.279 of my favorite stories. 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:42.439 Of all times. 0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:44.520 And Meghan added in She's like, oh yeah, tell me. 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:45.760 She was like, bitch sucks. 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:49.919 If anyone can talk shit about themselves, it's Megan. Yeah. 0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:51.280 But I've also been this person. 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.440 I talked shit about someone I didn't like and this 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:55.919 guy kept being like, no, that's my friend, like when 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.719 you're not, and I wouldn't stop, and finally I was like, oh, 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:02.600 you're a good friend, my bad You are right, you 0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:07.000 are right, should not have done that this other bitch. No, 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:10.040 she just well we're fine now. I yelled at her 0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.880 in an elevator at a festival. But we're friends. Yeah, 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:17.120 we wave to each other anyways. He's like, listen, is 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.719 she always this proactive? And I just goes, is there 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:22.960 a problem? And he keeps talking about Brooklyn and the 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.200 DA calling off and YadA YadA what his dad said 0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:30.840 about picking battles. And I was thinking, Stabler and Tomorrow 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:33.880 obviously have their problems, but they're also hot. 0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:38.560 Dods, You're not hot, so some people think he is. 0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.960 No one thinks okay, so people think yeah, the people 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.680 that are like, why is much not on your sexy games? 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.440 And it's like you can like someone off killed her. 0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:49.799 There's someone for everyone. Yeah, I guess. 0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.640 Dods is not hot though, and I'm mad that you're 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:52.759 trying to argue with me about that. 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.799 I'm look, look, look, look, he's not for me. But 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.000 people a lot of people were like Dods. Like people 0:39:58.040 --> 0:39:58.520 like Dods. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.799 Yeah, they to kill him for us to be like 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:03.120 sympathetic to him. 0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.880 He had to fully die for us to be like, 0:40:06.160 --> 0:40:07.560 all right, I feel bad. 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:10.280 Oh you know who I think is hot? Not baby Dods. 0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:12.400 But Stone. I kind of think Stone is hot in 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:13.640 like a Wall Street kind. 0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:17.719 Of like just Stone is classic good looks of course. Yeah, 0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:19.719 oh I think George Clute is hot. I'm a weird 0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:24.040 help we know Stone is hot. He could play Superman. 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:25.560 Yeah, I don't know. 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.279 I feel like Dods is kind of in the same 0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.080 like category as those guys. 0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.760 Okay, okay, Dods is a physical Baby Dodds. 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:38.719 Yeah, baby Peter Gallagher is hotter than Baby Dods. You know, 0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:42.520 Peter Gallagher is like fucked hot. Hollywood women like he Yeah, 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:43.240 I mean he. 0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:46.760 Was remember while you were sleeping? He was a hot guy. 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:48.080 I love that movie. 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:53.240 Yeah, yeah, that's a Chicago movie for Sandraw Bullocks Chicago. Anyways, 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.880 We're in this goddamn elevator and Isa's response is perfect, 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.880 give him a medal. He goes, She's been doing this 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:03.120 a long time. If she thinks something is fucked, it is, so. 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:06.080 Who are yeah? Who are YEA? 0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:09.400 So the hospital discharged them, obviously, Ice is like what 0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:11.920 the fuck? Nurses like, oh oops, it's said. 0:41:11.760 --> 0:41:12.239 To call you. 0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:18.520 We didn't my bad, but SBUs very acab are they 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:21.399 also anti nurse? Like, I just wonder what this is 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.319 because it's really mean. 0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:25.560 It's fucked up. 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.239 So we follow the detectives to the bus outside the 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.520 church and they're trying to peace out, and the parents 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:33.160 are doing a video segment like all smiles to the camera, 0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.400 and Chris Elliott is the cameraman, so that's who helped 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:38.279 earlier when the daughter passed out. 0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:39.759 He is the cameraman we learn. 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:42.400 So Finn and Dodds are like, hey, what's up, and 0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:44.920 they're like no, no, no, no, no no. Finn says, well, 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:46.920 you guys were in New York in July. It couldn't 0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:49.880 happened here, so we're gonna like figure out who this was. 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.319 And a crowd starts forming, and since they want their 0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:55.799 like baggage to be secret, they agree to go to 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.320 the precinct and chat, so there's not like a crowd listening. 0:41:58.800 --> 0:42:01.720 And Chris's running a day okay, He's watching other kids, 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.200 he's feeding the vending machine snacks, he's getting the kid's pizza. 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:08.000 He asks Graham to help him order. He's doing a 0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.080 lot of manipulation games with these children. He's trying to 0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:14.799 get scoop from the oldest boy and he's like, why 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:15.640 were you in New York? 0:42:15.680 --> 0:42:17.879 What's going on? What happened? They flew to New York 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:24.920 to cover graffiti? I did not pick up on that. 0:42:25.120 --> 0:42:25.759 I did not. 0:42:25.880 --> 0:42:29.160 Pick up on that the most pointless of charity work 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:29.640 you can do. 0:42:30.239 --> 0:42:30.680 It's like. 0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.879 Your fly, why don't you feed some people? Why don't 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:39.520 you hand out tampons to some shelters? Like what the 0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:43.520 fuck is going on? To fly through multiple state lines 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:48.239 or driving this god forsaken bus to cover up graffiti? 0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:54.360 Like is there? Why? Who cares? Who needs this so nuts? 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:57.520 Who needs so nuts? To cover up graffiti? And think 0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:58.319 you're doing a good job? 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:00.600 Like this is like the cold sure that I don't 0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:02.800 understand why religious people don't just stop. 0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.840 I'm like I'm lumping him in with people. 0:43:05.880 --> 0:43:08.719 It's like you hated rock and roll, you lost, you 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.080 didn't want SegReg you know, you didn't want schools to 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:12.160 what is it? 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:13.200 Integrate? Integrate? 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.359 And you were wrong? Like you're wrong about everything? When 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:20.040 do you just go, you know what? Let the graffiti stay? Yeah, 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:23.600 don't look at it truly on a like on. 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:25.960 The bottom of a list of problems with New York 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:27.799 City that could use some help, you know what I mean? 0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:29.680 Like the bottom is the graffiti ran. 0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:33.880 Some trees, pick up some dog shit, just give sanitation 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.440 kits to the homeless, like there are water bottles on 0:43:37.480 --> 0:43:38.080 a hot day. 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:41.839 Truly, so many ways to help people, that is the kitchens. 0:43:42.000 --> 0:43:45.279 I mean yeah, the options are endless, like scraping off 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:48.680 somebody's tag, I mean please. I wonder if they got 0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:53.040 the idea from Sister Act or something in the montage, 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.600 but well maybe they were like, nothing would have ever 0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:59.359 happened to that sweet little boy Logan who was up 0:43:59.400 --> 0:43:59.960 on that roof. 0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:02.000 Maybe they were referring to identity. 0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:05.799 He never would have been a guy's penis going down 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:07.880 and actually was Lucas, not Logan, but yeah, you know 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:08.600 what I'm saying. 0:44:08.480 --> 0:44:13.560 Yeah, we know, we know. So anyways, he's like, did 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:15.960 you notice anything creepy? We need your help, and he goes, no, 0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.640 it's just us, you know, and the crew, and that's that. 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:20.000 So then. 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.480 They're gonna talk to Lane without the parents, and the 0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:26.360 dads really livid that they're going to do that, and 0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:27.680 they go, yeah, but that's policy. 0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:28.880 So that's what it is. 0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.160 And the mom is with Rollins and Ra and the 0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.040 mom asks Rollin's like, hey, is your husband okay with 0:44:35.120 --> 0:44:37.600 you working with so many men, and it's just like 0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:42.200 perfect line of questioning, and Rollins goes, it's not a problem, 0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.160 and then she guesses how many months along Rollins is 0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.920 and notices no wedding ring and just assumes it's because 0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.600 her hand is swelling. And it's just like, I love 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:56.480 closed minded in this sometimes it's just so fun. So 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.799 Benson is with Lane obviously they got to put the 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.360 big guns in with her, and she says, you know 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.160 how you got pregnant. She goes, I had sexual activity, 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:06.600 and when Benson says it's not your fault, she says, yep, 0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:08.719 he says that to me too, and I'm still a 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:12.080 good person. And Benson's like, I need the name. She says, 0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:14.400 I can't say it. I promised not to tell. So 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:16.319 DoD's just talking to the dad and the dad is like, well, 0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:18.759 I'm going to go get the lawyer. And it's like, oh, 0:45:18.800 --> 0:45:21.279 did you do something wrong? Oh you didn't, so then 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.640 why do you need a lawyer? I like love this gameplay, 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.360 even though you know you always get a lawyer. Do 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.160 not ever talk to the police without one. 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.120 So Benson is with the girl and she's like, girl, 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.440 tell me who it is, who it is, and she says, no, 0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:36.520 this guy wouldn't hurt me. 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:39.080 He loves me. And she's like, you said you wouldn't 0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:41.400 say it. Why don't you write it down so then 0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.600 it's not breaking your promise. 0:45:43.440 --> 0:45:46.560 Or as Derinda would say, say it, forget it, write 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:50.640 it down, regret it. Ever, when Derenda say that about 0:45:50.640 --> 0:45:56.200 text messages, no, but who sent a Tyler Perry quote? 0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:57.560 That was part of it? 0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.880 Okay, but then Derenda sent it to Perry quote. So 0:46:00.880 --> 0:46:03.800 it's like, I don't know who's right here, Drinda. Anyway, Sorry, 0:46:03.840 --> 0:46:05.480 that's our Housewives segment for today. 0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:08.040 So Chris Elliot's and the other crew guys are putting 0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:10.120 the gear on the truck and he says, don't worry. 0:46:10.160 --> 0:46:11.920 They'll ship her off to some camp in the woods 0:46:11.920 --> 0:46:14.600 and we'll be up and running in no time. Think again, 0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:18.439 Finn and Creasy ask him for a DNA sample. They say, 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:20.920 open your mouth. They have a warrant to look through everything, 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.400 and that you rape Laney. And it's like what And 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:26.680 even the mom has like Pete our cameraman, no way 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:27.480 did Pete do this. 0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.200 He's like he's watched the kids grow up. We trusted him. 0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:30.880 There's no way. 0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.520 The parents refuse an amnio obviously to like try to 0:46:34.560 --> 0:46:37.000 connect the DNA, you know, And she goes, we don't 0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:38.080 believe in things like that. 0:46:38.400 --> 0:46:40.080 What don't you believe in? What is this? 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.239 Even this isn't in the Bible. An amnio is not 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.200 a thing that has any morality built into it. What 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:49.680 are you fucking talking about? They think it would endanger 0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:53.320 the life of the baby. Okay, but your baby is pregnant. 0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:57.120 I know. I mean, I know you okay, So anyways, 0:46:58.040 --> 0:46:59.440 I'm not taking it personally. 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.040 So the mom is like, well, why don't you just 0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:04.480 get him to confess? So isn't that your job? So 0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.280 Benson reminds her, like, hey, girl, like you have other daughters, 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.360 So mate, let's make sure we get to the bottom 0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:12.879 of this. Chrisy and Finner with Chris Elliot in interrogation, 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:20.879 and I noticed Chris Elliot, Chris Maloney, Elliott Stabler, that's 0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:25.040 a fun little name. But he has a gray Camo 0:47:25.160 --> 0:47:27.600 laptop and there's footage of the teen girls changing in 0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:30.080 the bathroom and he denies the rape. He's like, yes, 0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:32.560 the tape is a bad look. I should have deleted it. 0:47:32.600 --> 0:47:35.880 I'm supposed to capture everything, like it is wrong that 0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.200 I have this video and I kept it, but I'm 0:47:38.200 --> 0:47:41.600 not raping children. And they say she's pregnant and once 0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:45.239 we get the DNA, you're done. And he smiles and 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:48.360 is so happy, and you're like, what's going on? He 0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.280 had of aseectomy, like ten years ago, he had of aseectomy. 0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:52.919 He didn't do it. Laney is lying. 0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:56.319 She's obviously protecting someone closer to the family, and I 0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:57.160 love this twist. 0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:58.760 Yeah, it's a great twist. 0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.840 But it's also like, are you like, do these idiot 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:04.040 religious people are don't like, do you guys know that 0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:05.160 about DNA testing? 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.040 Like they're gonna check and see if this man is 0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:10.000 the dad, you know, like we've just talked to you 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.880 about an amnio. You can't like this fake story is 0:48:12.920 --> 0:48:14.480 like not gonna go anywhere. 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:14.279 You know. 0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.520 Al also entitlement their small town and we'll learn more 0:48:17.520 --> 0:48:20.279 about their dumbass town. But I this is one of 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.799 my top twenty moments of spew. I would say, like, 0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:24.920 I love this vasectomy drop. 0:48:25.280 --> 0:48:25.800 Yeah. 0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:27.960 They ask why she would say it was you, and 0:48:28.000 --> 0:48:29.640 he goes, you know what, I've been thinking about this 0:48:29.719 --> 0:48:32.880 in my head the whole time, and he's like, listen, 0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.640 she's a good girl and she does what she's told. 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:37.359 And this family protects their own. 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.319 And he has tons of footage in the cloud and 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:44.080 he's gonna reveal some fucking secrets. And Dodd says, maybe 0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:46.759 he just looks like a creep and isn't a creep shade. 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:49.279 He doesn't even look creepy, like Dods, you look more 0:48:49.280 --> 0:48:52.200 fucked up. Careesy shows the tapes and it's the brother 0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.880 Graham who's a problem. He's like touching the piano teacher's boobs, 0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:59.040 and the town judge knew this and sent him away 0:48:59.080 --> 0:49:02.600 to camp. Write you for Jesus, freak scorebad. The camp 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:05.120 is in Allenville, and so now they have to go. 0:49:05.480 --> 0:49:07.520 So they go to Allenville. They're at a golf course 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.520 trying to get scooped from this judge that sent him away, 0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:17.200 and like it's just another annoying thing where he says, 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.640 you know, it's not his fault, he just needed help. 0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:22.320 There's no criminal charges a boy with that many sisters, 0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:26.279 they just need some boy time. It's like, if you 0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.759 want to fuck your sisters, there's a problem. 0:49:29.160 --> 0:49:30.080 Oh my god. 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:34.520 These the mental gymnastics can't stop fucking saying that. So 0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.600 the judge is playing golf with the pastor's dad and 0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.000 the son is the family lawyer. Like, you know, there's 0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.520 just a lot of ancestual shit happening in this town 0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:44.839 and it's very insular, and they're just showing how like 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.759 these powerful dudes play golf together and are in charge 0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:50.680 of everything. And Christi and Finn are driving and it's 0:49:50.760 --> 0:49:52.960 very get out vibes. And if you've not seen get Out, 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.560 see it. They get pulled over, of course, and the 0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:59.200 cop is swarmy and annoying and disgusting but lets them go, 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.279 and then inside his coat pocket he reaches out and 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.799 gives him like a long envelope and says, this is 0:50:04.880 --> 0:50:07.640 for you. And so this like annoying us cop is 0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.080 actually a good guy. He's on our side. So another twist, 0:50:11.200 --> 0:50:14.880 another great twist in this show, and it's Graham's Juvie records. 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:17.920 There's three complaints of forcible touching, one attempt of assault, 0:50:17.960 --> 0:50:21.200 speeding tickets, and it was all ordered to be sealed 0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.320 by this judge. So the pastor, mom, Laney, and dad 0:50:24.440 --> 0:50:26.600 are with a handful of other people doing some sort 0:50:26.640 --> 0:50:29.040 of Bible study and Benson and Dodds ask for some 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.440 private time with the parents, and the pastor Benson stares 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.640 down Laney the girl, like, I know what you did, 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:35.279 you dumb bitch. 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.760 So Benson would never call the girl of a bitch. Okay. 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:42.359 So they're doing a normal parent thing, like we did 0:50:42.360 --> 0:50:43.359 a great job raising her. 0:50:43.360 --> 0:50:45.920 She wouldn't lie. She wouldn't lie. And it's like the parents, 0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.240 you actually suck, that's why we all have problems. 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:48.640 Okay. 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:53.680 So Benson brings Graham into the conversation and they say, whatever, 0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.799 he's a boy, it's show, it's curiosity. 0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:56.520 We dealt with it. 0:50:56.920 --> 0:50:59.479 And he's actually now an Ecuador for a mission trip, 0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:01.600 so you can't talk to him. And Dad's like, oh, 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:04.480 you guys work fast, motherfuckers. And Benson gets in the 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:08.240 pastor's face and is like the judge or your dad called, 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:10.360 you told you. And now Graham's out of town, like 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.720 we see what's going on, and he turns like lawyer 0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:13.880 card immediately. 0:51:13.480 --> 0:51:14.560 And kicks them out of the church. 0:51:15.160 --> 0:51:17.600 Benson can't leave and tries to appeal to the mom's 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:20.279 inner spirit of wanting to keep her kids safe, and 0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:22.640 she says, these issues don't just go away, and your 0:51:22.760 --> 0:51:25.960 daughter needs help back of the precinct. It's group project time. 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.880 They're all together. Rollin's with the info. Says she's been 0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:31.719 watching the show and they usually show the whole pregnancy 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.160 in the show, but not with the latest kid. 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:35.799 With Tate, who's two years old. 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:38.960 Everyone's spaced out, but not Tate, who was born eleven 0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:42.520 months apart. And usually she announces all the pregnancies pretty early, 0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.400 but they didn't with Tate. It wasn't until seven months, 0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:49.319 and there's like really no photos, and like there's just 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.120 a bunch of photos of her not pregnant within the 0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:53.399 time and nothing makes sense. So then they're like, holy shit, 0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:56.439 maybe Graham and pregnant another sister, and that's fucking Tate. 0:51:57.320 --> 0:51:59.800 So they think it's Summer, who was sent to another 0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:02.200 to hang out with a sick aunt that season, that 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.759 maybe she was the one who was pregnant and that's 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:07.200 why they kept her off camera. Dodds keeps trying to 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:09.080 be like, this case is done, this case is done. 0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:10.960 Why are we doing this, and Benson goes, yeah, your 0:52:10.960 --> 0:52:15.239 point has been made, thank you, we heard you. They 0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.799 need to get Graham and Tate's DNA, but from the 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:20.719 pizza party, Tate drooled on Careese's jacket when he was 0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.319 being you know, daddy daycare. And then they can get 0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:25.640 the dad's DNA from his time in the military, so 0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.719 it's already in the system, and then they'll get the 0:52:27.719 --> 0:52:30.920 baby's DNA from the drool. So then you know, the 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.319 time has gone by, and Benson leaves and Dodds is 0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.480 still doing paperwork at his desk and said, my dad 0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:37.520 told me don't get up from my desk until the 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:41.439 boss leaves his. And it's like, you mean hers, but also, 0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:43.000 do you have daddy issues? Why do you have to 0:52:43.000 --> 0:52:46.600 do everything your dad says like it? Grow up? Benson 0:52:46.640 --> 0:52:49.200 asked to be walked out by Dodds and he apologizes 0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.040 and Benson's like, Chill, I just have two rules. I'm 0:52:52.080 --> 0:52:54.719 down for open and free ideas, but two I am 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:55.319 always right. 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:56.000 Okay. 0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:00.560 So we're dealing with DNA tech Susan Chung, so finally 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:03.680 we get some science involved. The baby is not an 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:07.120 incest baby, so who did this? And rollin Suddenly something 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:09.719 goes wrong ouch ouch and needs to go to the hospital. 0:53:09.960 --> 0:53:12.360 Kriese's there with her, telling her she needs rest, and 0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.160 doctors agree she needs to be on bed rest. She's 0:53:15.280 --> 0:53:19.520 questioning all her life decisions, which I agree with, but 0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:23.919 she is having this baby, and you know, Cariese tolds 0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:26.640 her there's nothing you can't handle. You can do it all, 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:29.160 and her acting is great, and she's crying and she's 0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.920 confused and YadA YadA, and he goes, don't worry. My 0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:33.799 mom lit a candle for you at her church, so 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:38.840 you'll be okay. Benson gets scooped from Caresy and she 0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:43.840 fills in the crew and then Paternal News drops closed community. 0:53:43.880 --> 0:53:46.000 Who can it be? Benson says, oh my god, it's 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:48.319 the pastor. It's the fucking pastor. He was in New 0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:50.879 York on that trip. And also in the blog there's 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:53.120 a photo of him with Summer and the pastor was 0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:55.560 at a Christmas mission trip also, like this is what 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:55.920 they do. 0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:57.120 It's the fucking pastor. 0:53:57.239 --> 0:53:59.319 He gets them away from the family, Like he gets 0:53:59.360 --> 0:54:03.919 the kids away from the family alone and then molests them, 0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:04.480 so you. 0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:05.480 Know, and it's a good old pastor. 0:54:05.560 --> 0:54:08.120 The pastor's like, listen, we're gonna go white graffiti off. 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:10.759 Can I grab a kid? And they go, yeah, take 0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:14.240 the kid, pastor, and so diabolical, This fucker is evil 0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:16.160 and Kara likes him, so. 0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:19.360 No, I just think he has a cute face. 0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:22.719 Finn and Dobbs come in to get him, and he's 0:54:22.760 --> 0:54:25.840 wearing like the biggest silver cross I've ever seen. He 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:29.920 starts babbling about jealousy and fear about the Christians and 0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:32.319 they he calls New York Camorra and how he's there 0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:34.920 to save the souls and they ask for a DNA 0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:39.480 sample and they have a warrant. He shocked, but they 0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.640 got to do the DNA test, so ha ha ha ha, 0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:44.480 And it's a match. It's a paternal match. Tape to 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.920 the pastor, he is the rapist. They go on a 0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.880 chase to find him and they are getting married at 0:54:49.880 --> 0:54:52.840 a fucking courthouse. So Lane and the pastor are getting 0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:53.840 married at a courthouse. 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:55.000 The detectives run in. 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.600 This is a thirteen year old girl, yes, and a 0:54:57.600 --> 0:55:00.800 grown ass man who is a lawyer slash pastor. 0:55:01.480 --> 0:55:04.120 Yeah, where does he find the time? Okay? 0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:08.160 So the detectives run in to stop this child bride 0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:10.680 wedding thing and it's so fucked and the parents are 0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.080 just standing there watching as their little kid gets married off. 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:16.680 And the cop that gave them the papers like helps 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:20.000 lead them in so you know, we love him. She 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.640 and she just turned fourteen and the dad is the 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:25.480 judge and it's legal and they're just gonna get married. 0:55:25.800 --> 0:55:27.839 And the dad says the pastor is just helping us 0:55:27.840 --> 0:55:30.480 out and willing to provide for her and the baby 0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:32.279 and he'd be a great son in law. 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:33.560 And Benson looks. 0:55:33.440 --> 0:55:36.839 So angry, like so angry, and looks at the mom 0:55:36.840 --> 0:55:40.040 and goes, you gave consent and like they think. 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:40.959 They're protecting their daughter. 0:55:41.040 --> 0:55:42.719 So the mom is like, this is good, and we'll 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.759 give a bit, you know, give the baby a name 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.560 and be like the father figure. And then it's like, 0:55:47.600 --> 0:55:50.200 well this is fitting because he is the father and 0:55:50.239 --> 0:55:51.840 the mom's face drops. 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:52.640 She is shook. 0:55:52.880 --> 0:55:55.000 So Benson gives her the scoop and is like, listen, 0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:58.279 the pastor's the dad and to Summer's baby, and mom 0:55:58.320 --> 0:55:59.600 says Summer didn't have a. 0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:03.160 Baby, and it's like, come on, we know, yeah, jig 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:04.200 is up. Yeah. 0:56:04.239 --> 0:56:05.920 And then the pastor is also a lawyer, so then 0:56:05.960 --> 0:56:08.399 he's like, what we're done talking to you, And then 0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:11.720 he adds that Tate's DNA is admissible in court because 0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.240 you didn't get permission to test it, and then Careesy 0:56:14.280 --> 0:56:17.360 has an amazing burn and goes, it's really bad that 0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:22.080 you're making a legal argument right now. Ough perfect. I 0:56:22.160 --> 0:56:24.239 hope I get to use that in person one day. 0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.600 I hope there's some guy that's talking about like legality 0:56:28.680 --> 0:56:30.799 of fucking underage girls or so, and then I get 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.520 to bring this up, like this is such a good line, 0:56:35.760 --> 0:56:36.840 so that on a T shirt. 0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:38.000 That was my next note. 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:40.799 Yeah, like, why are you making a legal argument if 0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:43.040 you didn't do it? Usually you go, I didn't do it. 0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:44.200 I didn't do it. I would never. 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.480 I would never, you know. But DNA doesn't lie, and 0:56:47.480 --> 0:56:50.520 Benson looks so hot. Then we find out Graham never 0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:53.520 said he did it to the parents. The pastor said 0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:56.240 that Graham confessed to him. So we was also willing 0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:58.440 to sell this boy down to a different country to 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:01.399 get away with this. Runs to Lane and says, tell 0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:04.400 me the truth. It's okay. She says, he loves me 0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:07.600 and it's God's plan for us. And he's still saying that, 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.840 you know, we're gonna get married, and she starts screaming. 0:57:10.920 --> 0:57:13.319 She goes, this is just a child, and it's like, kiss, 0:57:13.320 --> 0:57:16.200 where have you been? We've been saying this the whole episode. 0:57:16.200 --> 0:57:16.880 This is a kid. 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.320 What are you guys not wanting to investigate? And now 0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:22.600 all of a sudden, like the spell has been broken. 0:57:22.720 --> 0:57:25.840 It's midnight Cinderella's style, and she's like, this is a child. 0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:26.520 What are you doing? 0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.320 And she screams and summer and it seems like she 0:57:29.360 --> 0:57:30.840 cares about summer more than this kid. 0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:31.400 But whatever. 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.880 He then says, Frank, control your wife, and she says no, 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.680 and he says, you don't say no to your husband, 0:57:39.920 --> 0:57:42.880 and so she then says she will testify about Tate 0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:45.480 and everything. The pastor still tries to talk his way 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:47.120 out of this, like you don't want to let your 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:50.160 fans down, do you. So the mom apologizes to Lane 0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:52.200 and is like I should have protected you, and she says, 0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.640 I'm sorry. He told me this is what people in 0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:57.480 love do. And the mom says, they will tell the truth. 0:57:57.840 --> 0:57:59.800 I don't care about the show. I don't care about 0:57:59.800 --> 0:58:01.880 any thing. I want him put away. I care about 0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:06.120 my family. The local cops gets to arrest him, and 0:58:06.160 --> 0:58:10.080 the lawyer keeps rolling his eyes like like this is mock. 0:58:09.960 --> 0:58:10.880 Court or something. 0:58:11.000 --> 0:58:15.440 It's like, you, why are you still having attitude, and 0:58:15.480 --> 0:58:17.520 he says none of this will hold up in court 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:19.520 and says, I love you to Lane one more time. 0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:20.640 And it's still cocky. 0:58:21.200 --> 0:58:23.680 And the Breakers are now on the news speaking out 0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.600 about all the abuse and the pastor and everything, and 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:30.120 the squad is watching this confession news conference on New 0:58:30.200 --> 0:58:33.000 York One. Shout out to our friend Allison Libey, she 0:58:33.080 --> 0:58:33.920 loves New York One. 0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:35.560 Shout out to Pat Kiernan. 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:41.120 Yeah, and pastor is pleading to multiple counts of statutory rape. 0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:43.800 Finn asks DoD if he still thinks this was a 0:58:43.800 --> 0:58:46.320 waste of time, and he goes, no, but I thought 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:48.960 we'd be taking, you know, down rapists off the street, 0:58:49.040 --> 0:58:53.640 not from churches, and Benson goes, nah, rapists hunt where 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:55.760 they are trusted, not in the streets. 0:58:56.280 --> 0:59:01.240 And then that's it. Dodds learns a lesson Boom. 0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.680 And that is the major lesson of rape crimes that 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:07.840 I think is so misunderstood too, is like it's. 0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:10.440 Not just like yeah, shadowy figures in alleys, you. 0:59:10.400 --> 0:59:12.600 Know, yeah, and it's used as a way to like 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:17.120 discredit victims. Stories are like but what about the and 0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:19.439 it's like, no, it's confusing. You don't want to turn 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:25.000 on your friends. You're manipulated and it's just not really understood. Yeah, 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.480 all right, let's go baby, true crime, duggar it go. 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:44.320 Okay, let's get into the true situation. 0:59:44.680 --> 0:59:47.640 Crime. Yeah, it's a crime. There's crime. Yeah, this is 0:59:47.680 --> 0:59:48.120 your crime. 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:53.600 I want to say first, I realized as you were 0:59:53.600 --> 0:59:56.000 talking about it, Lisa, that the whole mom having the 0:59:56.040 --> 0:59:59.160 secret baby, that's definitely I think based on Sarah Palin. 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:03.480 That's it's definitely based on people think that her youngest baby, Trig, 1:00:04.120 --> 1:00:06.960 is Bristol's kid. Whether it's true or not, I have 1:00:07.040 --> 1:00:09.240 no idea about that as a conspiracy that's been going 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:12.000 on for a really long time because similarly, like she 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:15.240 was never photographed very pregnant, like she used to announce 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.200 her pregnancies in a certain way like whatever, and then 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:19.400 suddenly she just like had this baby. Suddenly she was 1:00:19.400 --> 1:00:20.560 eight months pregnant with Trigg. 1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:20.920 You know. 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:25.040 So interesting, But that's not obviously what this episode is 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:28.760 based on. We are clearly talking about the Douggers, the 1:00:28.920 --> 1:00:32.840 Dugger family. This was interesting for me to research because, 1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:35.520 like I said, I knew like visually what they looked like, 1:00:35.640 --> 1:00:38.680 sitting in a fucking mass of children, but I'd never 1:00:38.800 --> 1:00:42.400 actually looked into anything about them. They came to prominence 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:45.880 with their TLC reality show Seventeen Kids in Counting, which 1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:48.680 later became eighteen Kids Accounting and then nineteen Kids in 1:00:48.760 --> 1:00:52.040 Counting and that's when it ended. And the show centered 1:00:52.040 --> 1:00:57.280 around Michelle and Jim Bob Dugger of taunt to Town, Arkansas. 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:59.720 And if you are from there, please don't write me 1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:02.080 in time. I'm mispronounced it. I really don't care about 1:01:02.120 --> 1:01:02.720 ton to Town. 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:05.280 Sorry. And they're nineteen. 1:01:04.880 --> 1:01:08.080 Kids who all have names that begin with the letter J. 1:01:08.640 --> 1:01:10.800 And I do remember reading something about them in like 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:14.080 a magazine like People or something, where I read one 1:01:14.120 --> 1:01:16.280 was named j I N G E R. And I 1:01:16.360 --> 1:01:19.760 was like, Jinger, but it's ginger. I couldn't understand why 1:01:19.760 --> 1:01:21.000 someone wu was named their kid Jinger. 1:01:21.440 --> 1:01:23.320 But yeah, I don't. Should I name all their names? 1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:32.400 Oh? Yeah, Okay, We've got Joshua, Jana, John, David, Jill, Jessa, Jinger, Joseph, Josiah, 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:39.560 joy Anna, Jedediah, Jeremiah, Jason, James, Justin, Jackson, Joanna, Jennifer, Jordan, Grace, 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:41.800 and Josie. And I think those are all the names 1:01:41.840 --> 1:01:42.840 that begin with Jay. 1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.520 I wish you read it like Cleatus from the Simpsons 1:01:45.520 --> 1:01:46.880 when he was naming his kids. 1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:49.600 But it's okay, Oh, I don't know that. I know 1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:54.360 you do it. How does he do it? Later? 1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:56.840 But I have all the name I have a screenshot 1:01:56.840 --> 1:01:59.720 of all the name. He goes, Oh, Melias, I'm bad 1:01:59.760 --> 1:01:59.920 at that. 1:02:00.560 --> 1:02:02.400 Don't put me on this. I shouldn't have said anything. 1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:03.720 Keep going, keep going. 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:07.480 Or like when Bubba Gump when he's doing when he's 1:02:07.480 --> 1:02:08.720 doing all the kinds of shrimps. 1:02:08.800 --> 1:02:13.240 Yes, Jana John David. Okay, But what I love. 1:02:13.200 --> 1:02:15.400 Is like these people think they're like so devout and 1:02:15.480 --> 1:02:17.760 morally superior, and it's like you have the same naming 1:02:18.080 --> 1:02:19.640 like theory as the Kardashians. 1:02:19.720 --> 1:02:21.200 You ain't s you know, Like. 1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:25.360 It's so nuts. My aunt did this. I only have 1:02:25.360 --> 1:02:27.400 three cousins, but they all have m names and I'm 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:30.280 just like, why why I don't understand that at all. 1:02:30.320 --> 1:02:36.000 But okay, So the Duggers are devout Baptists. They preached 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:39.600 the values of purity, modesty, and faith in God. The 1:02:39.680 --> 1:02:43.160 parents got married at seventeen and nineteen, respectively. The wife 1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:46.439 was seventeen, the husband was nineteen, and they actually did 1:02:46.600 --> 1:02:49.360 use birth control pills earlier in their marriage, so they 1:02:49.440 --> 1:02:51.600 used birth control pills. They got off birth control pills 1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:53.520 to have the first kid. Then she got back on 1:02:53.560 --> 1:02:56.600 birth control pills after her first kid and got pregnant 1:02:56.640 --> 1:02:59.120 anyway with birth control pills, which can happen. 1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:01.120 And it led to a miscarriage, which can happen. 1:03:01.440 --> 1:03:03.560 And so then that was when they decided to allow 1:03:03.640 --> 1:03:06.000 God to determine the number of children they would have 1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:11.480 or you can pull out, but whatever. So that's when 1:03:11.520 --> 1:03:13.720 they started having just like a shit ton of children. 1:03:13.840 --> 1:03:16.080 And I think she was having a kid like every 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:19.160 couple of years, their kid or every eighteen months. 1:03:19.160 --> 1:03:20.320 I believe she was having kids. 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:23.320 And their kids had very limited exposure to media and 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:25.959 mainstream forms of entertainment, and the kids would do something 1:03:26.000 --> 1:03:28.400 called group dating when they came of age, like they 1:03:28.400 --> 1:03:30.440 would go on groups where they got to know people 1:03:30.600 --> 1:03:35.080 in group settings. And the show started in two thousand 1:03:35.080 --> 1:03:37.880 and eight. It ran for ten seasons and it was 1:03:37.920 --> 1:03:40.560 one of TLC's highest rated shows. It was truly a 1:03:40.560 --> 1:03:44.080 smash hit for TLC. I watched it, and oh yeah, well, 1:03:44.120 --> 1:03:46.080 Lisa was one of those millions of people who watched 1:03:46.600 --> 1:03:50.160 and it was canceled in twenty fifteen following the revelation 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:54.160 that the eldest son, Josh, had molested five young girls 1:03:54.200 --> 1:03:56.800 at a team, including a couple of his own sisters, 1:03:57.120 --> 1:03:59.600 and that his parents knew about it and kept it quiet. 1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:02.000 That's another thing that upsets me. It's all about like 1:04:02.120 --> 1:04:04.440 chastity for the girls. Girls, girls, and it's like all 1:04:04.480 --> 1:04:07.560 the boys are running around committing crimes. Yeah, maybe, why 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:11.680 don't you put some parenting onto these fucking boys. Yeah, exactly, 1:04:12.600 --> 1:04:15.320 Hiding that your son is molesting people. It's like they're 1:04:15.360 --> 1:04:18.680 the lowest of the low and they will burn in hell. Yeah, JK, 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:19.880 we're Jews, we don't believe in that. 1:04:19.920 --> 1:04:27.000 But so I actually looked at the police report. There 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:29.080 are like screenshots of the police report which I will 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:33.840 put into our show notes our sources. But the police 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:35.720 report was filed in two thousand and six, and it 1:04:35.760 --> 1:04:37.720 was about events that happened in two thousand and two 1:04:37.800 --> 1:04:39.919 slash two thousand and three, and that was when Josh 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:43.360 would have been about fourteen or fifteen. And from the 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:45.880 police report, it seems like there was a random caller 1:04:46.120 --> 1:04:50.120 who called these tips in saying that Josh had fondled 1:04:50.160 --> 1:04:52.800 the breasts and vaginas of several victims while they were 1:04:52.800 --> 1:04:55.960 sleeping in the family's home, and that this happened four 1:04:56.000 --> 1:04:57.600 to five times between two thousand and two and two 1:04:57.640 --> 1:05:00.720 thousand and three. Victims included his own sister and non 1:05:00.720 --> 1:05:04.960 family members. It also says this was shocking to me. 1:05:05.280 --> 1:05:07.960 It also says that the family had traveled to Chicago 1:05:08.560 --> 1:05:10.800 to appear on Oprah. This is before they're even on 1:05:10.840 --> 1:05:13.400 a show. This is this is just like they're this 1:05:13.480 --> 1:05:15.880 family in Arkansas. The people know about this is like 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:19.280 how they're on their rise to fame. They're in Chicago 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:22.840 to appear on Oprah. The Oprah Show receives an email 1:05:22.880 --> 1:05:26.640 from a sixty one year old unidentified female that warned 1:05:26.680 --> 1:05:28.760 the show about the Dougger family, and I would like 1:05:28.800 --> 1:05:31.520 to read the email here. Should I do it in 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:32.320 a Southern accent? 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:33.200 Yes? No, I won't. 1:05:33.480 --> 1:05:35.680 All right, I'll do it a Southern accent. Before you 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:39.240 air the Dougger family from Arkansas with redacted, you need 1:05:39.280 --> 1:05:41.240 to know the truth. They are not what they seem 1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:45.040 to be. Redacted has molested redacted while redacted we're sleeping 1:05:45.320 --> 1:05:47.240 and the parents have been hid in this secret for 1:05:47.280 --> 1:05:49.920 a long time. Jimbob lies to his church and his 1:05:49.920 --> 1:05:52.280 friends to make him look good. At this moment, he 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:54.800 is in trouble with the church for lying about redacted 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:57.640 and things that concern the way the church members redacted. 1:05:58.160 --> 1:06:00.400 I think that you should know that the You should 1:06:00.400 --> 1:06:02.440 know the truth before they make a complete fool of 1:06:02.520 --> 1:06:05.760 you and your show. Respect for Oprah, They've been on 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:08.800 TV before and come across as a perfect family, which 1:06:08.840 --> 1:06:11.320 couldn't be further from the truth. They jump from show 1:06:11.320 --> 1:06:13.800 to show to receive gifts for their family to make 1:06:13.840 --> 1:06:17.920 them look really good too. Please confront them about their secret. 1:06:18.600 --> 1:06:21.280 Here's what the Oprah Show did. They canceled the appearance 1:06:21.360 --> 1:06:24.640 and Harpo's studios then fax the email to the Department 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:26.960 of Human Services hotline and that was when the report 1:06:27.040 --> 1:06:31.160 was open for an investigation. So truly, Oprah is one 1:06:31.160 --> 1:06:34.120 of the reasons why these charges even came out. 1:06:34.360 --> 1:06:36.640 Wow, I had no person who wrote the letter. 1:06:36.560 --> 1:06:38.240 The person who wrote the email, but like, I had 1:06:38.240 --> 1:06:40.160 no idea there was like an Oprah connection in this 1:06:40.200 --> 1:06:40.560 whole thing. 1:06:40.600 --> 1:06:41.800 It's kind of wild. 1:06:42.560 --> 1:06:45.640 So the report says that the Dugger parents were then 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:48.520 brought in They confirmed the allegations to the police. They 1:06:48.560 --> 1:06:51.560 were like, yes, we knew about this. We discipline Josh 1:06:51.600 --> 1:06:54.760 for these acts. Jim Bob said that he consulted the 1:06:54.760 --> 1:06:57.520 elders of his church and they agreed that Josh would 1:06:57.520 --> 1:07:00.920 go to a treatment program. A treatment program Jimbob completely 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:02.600 forgot the name of. He's like, oh, I forgot what 1:07:02.640 --> 1:07:04.800 it's called. So it's like, I don't think he wanted 1:07:04.800 --> 1:07:08.080 anyone to look into how non treatment e it was 1:07:08.800 --> 1:07:11.640 because they didn't want to send him to a true 1:07:11.640 --> 1:07:14.360 sex offender program. They were worried that he would learn 1:07:14.400 --> 1:07:16.920 to offend more seriously from other members of the program, 1:07:16.960 --> 1:07:19.680 which apparently people have said that when you go to 1:07:19.720 --> 1:07:23.160 sex offender treatment programs, like other offenders just teach you 1:07:23.200 --> 1:07:25.120 how to groom better and teach you how to do things. 1:07:25.320 --> 1:07:27.840 Yeah, but what if your kid's actually the most evil 1:07:27.920 --> 1:07:30.160 and he's teaching the others. You know, It's like it's 1:07:30.200 --> 1:07:33.560 always like, my kid wouldn't lie, my kid wouldn't do that. 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:34.800 I can't send my kid. 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:40.720 Your kid is the criminal, yes, for sure, blinded by love. 1:07:40.800 --> 1:07:42.120 Some of these parents, not me. 1:07:42.440 --> 1:07:45.320 Rosie's going to jail, Okay, So they put Josh into 1:07:45.400 --> 1:07:48.280 this Christian program in Little Rock for three months from 1:07:48.360 --> 1:07:51.240 March to July of two thousand and three, which consisted 1:07:51.240 --> 1:07:54.760 of hard physical labor and counseling. And I think nothing 1:07:54.760 --> 1:07:57.720 stops a sinful boner like hard physical work and counseling. 1:07:58.600 --> 1:08:02.640 And I'm being sarcastic that obviously probably did nothing. The 1:08:02.680 --> 1:08:05.080 Douggers said that they felt that no further assaults took 1:08:05.080 --> 1:08:07.600 place after Josh's treatment, But how could we ever fucking 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:10.040 know that? We could never know? That it's possible he's 1:08:10.400 --> 1:08:12.080 molested tons of people that we don't. 1:08:11.880 --> 1:08:13.640 Even know about. 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:17.479 Another part of the report says that a family member 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:20.200 who the Douggers would not identify. 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:20.920 Wrote a letter. 1:08:21.040 --> 1:08:23.639 They wrote a letter down about what had happened at 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.920 the time in two thousand and three, put it in 1:08:25.960 --> 1:08:28.719 a book, and then the book was completely forgotten about, 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:30.880 and then the book was lent out to someone in 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:34.880 the Dougger's church and eventually found. And the person who 1:08:35.080 --> 1:08:39.559 found that letter is the one who called the hotline wow, 1:08:40.040 --> 1:08:42.400 and maybe the one that wrote the email to Oprah 1:08:42.400 --> 1:08:42.920 who knows. 1:08:43.479 --> 1:08:44.920 They won't reveal who this person is. 1:08:45.439 --> 1:08:49.120 So Jim Bob said that Josh confessed to a state 1:08:49.200 --> 1:08:52.479 trooper what he did after he returned to rehab, but 1:08:52.600 --> 1:08:56.200 no report was ever filed. And wouldn't you know that 1:08:56.320 --> 1:08:59.719 state trooper is currently serving fifty six years in Arkansas 1:08:59.760 --> 1:09:02.000 prey on child pornography charges. 1:09:03.160 --> 1:09:05.800 That state trooper later said, if I thought he had. 1:09:05.680 --> 1:09:08.519 Done it more than once, I would have reported him, 1:09:08.640 --> 1:09:12.280 like he thought the kid was just confessing a singular incident. Anyway, 1:09:12.920 --> 1:09:14.840 there is a lot more in this report if you 1:09:14.960 --> 1:09:18.200 want to read it in like I said in our show, sources, 1:09:18.280 --> 1:09:20.400 but a lot of it is redacted as you get 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:22.000 into it, so when you're reading it, it's kind of 1:09:22.040 --> 1:09:24.400 just like three words and then a black square, and 1:09:24.400 --> 1:09:26.080 then three words and a black square. So you kind 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:28.880 of have to infer all of this. But we know 1:09:29.080 --> 1:09:31.000 it's confirmed. Later I'll tell you how they all know 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:35.800 it's about Josh. So after this report is filed in 1:09:35.840 --> 1:09:38.559 two thousand and six and all of this investigation is done, 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:41.080 the police decide that the time in which they could 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:43.719 have pressed charges has expired, which I don't even understand 1:09:43.760 --> 1:09:45.559 how that's true. It's two thousand and six, this happened 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:48.120 in two three. That's only four years. 1:09:48.800 --> 1:09:49.040 I know. 1:09:49.120 --> 1:09:52.080 In some states the statute limitations is five years, but 1:09:52.120 --> 1:09:54.840 four years seems like not a lot of time. First, 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:56.840 I think five is a crazy amount, so I can't 1:09:56.880 --> 1:09:57.559 imagine four. 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:03.120 But I don't know. They just don't press charges against Josh. 1:10:03.479 --> 1:10:05.439 And then a fun fact is like in May two 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:08.920 thousand and two, kind of around when these actual crimes 1:10:08.920 --> 1:10:13.160 were happening, Jim Bob, the father of this family, lost 1:10:13.160 --> 1:10:16.000 a primary bid for a Republican Senate seat, in which 1:10:16.040 --> 1:10:19.240 he ran on a platform that quote, rape and incest 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:22.960 represent heinous crimes and as such should be treated as 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:27.160 capital crimes end quote. So while this man's own son 1:10:27.320 --> 1:10:32.439 is molesting his daughters incestually, he's out there going incest 1:10:32.560 --> 1:10:34.680 is the worst crime, like, and it's like you don't 1:10:34.680 --> 1:10:36.479 even know what's going on under your own roof. And 1:10:36.520 --> 1:10:38.920 he didn't win the bid, but whatever, he ended up 1:10:38.960 --> 1:10:39.519 finding fame. 1:10:39.560 --> 1:10:42.559 Another way, that's so interesting you said that, because that's 1:10:42.560 --> 1:10:44.439 the whole thing. Like people are like, oh, this good 1:10:44.520 --> 1:10:49.200 religious family, and it's like no, no, no, they wanted fame, yeah, 1:10:49.920 --> 1:10:52.559 running for and then this like they just wanted attention. 1:10:52.680 --> 1:10:55.640 So it's like fake humble, it's fake righteous. It's like 1:10:55.920 --> 1:10:59.439 so fake in every way yeah, for sure. 1:11:00.240 --> 1:11:02.639 So now that was all going down in two thousand 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:02.960 and six. 1:11:03.000 --> 1:11:05.280 In two thousand and seven, the internet is like buzzing 1:11:05.320 --> 1:11:07.160 about the Douggers, Like people are talking about them on 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:09.960 message boards and shit, and I'm reminding you they don't 1:11:09.960 --> 1:11:11.920 even have a show at this point yet people are 1:11:11.960 --> 1:11:14.200 just talking about this fucked up family in Arkansas on 1:11:14.320 --> 1:11:18.600 like Reddit, message boards and whatever. And the Oprah cancelation 1:11:18.800 --> 1:11:22.080 fueled a lot of the online rumors, and like people 1:11:22.120 --> 1:11:25.320 were like, oh, she might have canceled for other reasons, 1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:29.559 like their backwards view of gender roles, or but it 1:11:29.600 --> 1:11:32.240 was probably more likely the allegation that Josh had molested 1:11:32.240 --> 1:11:34.760 some of his siblings. So then in two thousand and eight, 1:11:34.800 --> 1:11:37.320 the following year, their show debuts, and then we hear 1:11:37.479 --> 1:11:40.880 nothing about this really until twenty fifteen. And then in 1:11:40.960 --> 1:11:45.559 May twenty fifteen, in Touch Weekly, of all sources, in 1:11:45.600 --> 1:11:47.760 Touch Weekly, a magazine that I would not trust as 1:11:47.800 --> 1:11:51.120 far as I can throw, publishes the police report, which 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:53.720 they have obtained through a FOIA request, a Freedom of 1:11:53.760 --> 1:11:59.120 Information Act request, and basically Josh Dugger immediately confirms it 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:02.799 on Facebook. Right twelve years ago, as a young teenager, 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:06.040 I acted inexcusably, for which I am extremely sorry and 1:12:06.080 --> 1:12:09.719 deeply regret. I heard others, including my family and close friends. 1:12:10.240 --> 1:12:12.680 He resigned from his job as a lobbyist at this 1:12:12.800 --> 1:12:15.559 conservative group, the Family Research Council, which is an anti 1:12:15.680 --> 1:12:20.680 gay organization according to Glad, so fuck them. And then TLC. 1:12:20.840 --> 1:12:23.559 At first TLC just pulled all the reruns. Okay, so 1:12:23.600 --> 1:12:25.320 they're still going to air the show, but they're pulling 1:12:25.360 --> 1:12:29.240 all the reruns. And at the same time, the Arkansas 1:12:29.280 --> 1:12:33.160 Police destroy the police report per a judge's orders. So 1:12:33.400 --> 1:12:36.080 they destroy the physical police report, but it's all over 1:12:36.120 --> 1:12:38.280 the internet. I've read it like there are pictures of 1:12:38.320 --> 1:12:40.400 it in Touch, has it in Touch published it like 1:12:40.439 --> 1:12:42.880 it's everywhere. So I don't know why you're having this 1:12:43.000 --> 1:12:46.719 ceremonial destruction of the police report when everything lives forever 1:12:46.800 --> 1:12:50.160 on the internet. So then as this story grows, advertisers 1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:53.880 start pulling out of the show amid the scandal that 1:12:54.000 --> 1:12:56.880 state trooper creep. Like I said, like I didn't know 1:12:56.920 --> 1:12:58.559 the full extent of it, or I would have reported 1:12:58.560 --> 1:13:01.280 it blah blah blah. In June of twenty fifteen, so 1:13:01.400 --> 1:13:05.679 like a month after, a month after the story has broken. Jim, Bob, 1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:08.479 and Michelle go on TV and acknowledge that four of 1:13:08.520 --> 1:13:11.960 their the victims were their daughters, including the younger sisters 1:13:12.040 --> 1:13:14.920 Jill and Jessa, who also went on TV and spoke 1:13:14.960 --> 1:13:18.120 to Fox News as Megan Kelly of all people to 1:13:18.360 --> 1:13:19.360 share your story with. 1:13:19.800 --> 1:13:21.960 And this is very much housewives. It's like, if you're 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:24.639 committing crimes, why are you going on TV and spending 1:13:24.680 --> 1:13:27.200 cash on camera? And that's this It's like, your son 1:13:27.320 --> 1:13:30.960 is a known molester, why are you then going on television? 1:13:31.040 --> 1:13:33.160 You fucking see. I mean, I'm glad they did. I'm 1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:35.920 glad you know they got caught, but right. 1:13:36.040 --> 1:13:38.400 Confusing but seven like for seven years they were just 1:13:38.479 --> 1:13:40.960 on TV being like, no one's going to know our secret, 1:13:40.960 --> 1:13:43.240 and then their plans were foiled by in Touch weekly 1:13:44.439 --> 1:13:46.840 the Duggers. So this is how they're spinning it, going 1:13:46.880 --> 1:13:49.400 on Fox News and shit, they're spinning it as the 1:13:49.439 --> 1:13:52.840 bigger story that Josh's police records were released under a 1:13:52.840 --> 1:13:55.559 Freedom of Information Act requests, and they threatened to sue 1:13:56.720 --> 1:14:00.400 to quote unquote protect juvenile records because mistakes juvenile make 1:14:00.439 --> 1:14:01.799 when they're young should be sealed. 1:14:02.040 --> 1:14:03.880 That's what Jim Bob said. 1:14:04.080 --> 1:14:09.360 So they're like, we're persecuted because our baby's secret got revealed. 1:14:09.880 --> 1:14:14.040 In July of twenty fifteen, TLC pulls the plug on 1:14:14.080 --> 1:14:17.000 the Duggers, so finally the show gets canceled. 1:14:18.080 --> 1:14:20.160 Josh's wife now, now, Josh. 1:14:19.880 --> 1:14:22.680 Has since obviously married to a woman named Anna, and 1:14:22.720 --> 1:14:25.840 she said that she knew about Josh's crimes two years 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:28.160 before she married him and believed that the counseling he 1:14:28.240 --> 1:14:33.920 received had quote unquote changed his life. Okay, two months later, 1:14:34.120 --> 1:14:36.839 in October of that same year, things keep going badly 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:39.880 for Josh Dougger, who admits to being unfaithful to his 1:14:39.920 --> 1:14:42.960 wife Anna after a Gauka report comes out claiming that 1:14:43.000 --> 1:14:46.200 he was a member of the Ashley Madison website, which 1:14:46.200 --> 1:14:48.840 we all know, which they say in this in this 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.040 thing promotes adultery, and it does. I guess it's kind 1:14:52.040 --> 1:14:55.160 of like, here's a way to like safely commit adultery 1:14:55.160 --> 1:14:58.160 on that website, right, But it's also it's also people 1:14:58.240 --> 1:15:00.519 go on it like looking for sugar Daddy's sugar babies. 1:15:00.560 --> 1:15:02.320 It's not like that's its sole purpose, no. 1:15:02.479 --> 1:15:05.280 But the tagline is come here to cheat, you can 1:15:05.360 --> 1:15:08.240 cheat secretly. Got it, Oh, is your wife pregnant, you 1:15:08.280 --> 1:15:11.559 can go fuck a slut here Like that's yeah, that's 1:15:11.600 --> 1:15:13.200 when the subscribe. 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:15.960 That's like usually when men cheat on their wives. 1:15:16.040 --> 1:15:16.360 Yeah. 1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:18.160 I knew a girl in high schoo I knew a 1:15:18.160 --> 1:15:21.440 girl from high school who writes like these big experiential 1:15:21.479 --> 1:15:24.080 journalistic pieces, you know, like I got an enema on 1:15:24.120 --> 1:15:26.000 a date. Here's how it went, and like they're all 1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:28.600 for like Playboy and different magazines and shit. And she 1:15:28.760 --> 1:15:31.160 did a one about joining Ashley Madison to become a 1:15:31.200 --> 1:15:33.280 sugar baby. So I owe, in my mind, I always 1:15:33.320 --> 1:15:35.320 kind of think it's about sugar babies and sugar daddies, 1:15:35.360 --> 1:15:37.960 but you're right, their main goal is cheating. So when 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:40.599 he got found out about that, Josh released another statement 1:15:40.640 --> 1:15:43.639 and said, I have been the biggest hypocrite ever. While 1:15:43.760 --> 1:15:46.680 espousing faith and family values, I have secretly, over the 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:49.680 last several years been viewing pornography on the Internet and 1:15:49.720 --> 1:15:52.280 this has become a secret addiction, and I became unfaithful 1:15:52.320 --> 1:15:52.920 to my wife. 1:15:53.560 --> 1:15:54.719 End of end quote. 1:15:55.080 --> 1:15:59.760 And he released that via douggerfamily dot Com. Now, like, yes, 1:15:59.800 --> 1:16:01.720 I'm I'm glad you're admitting what a hypocrite you are. 1:16:01.800 --> 1:16:05.200 As so many religious people are super super hypocrites. But 1:16:05.360 --> 1:16:08.960 like you're basically saying that a pornography addiction led you 1:16:09.240 --> 1:16:12.160 to this unfaithfulness. And it's like, no, you just you 1:16:12.240 --> 1:16:14.240 cheated on your wife, like you're blame You're still blaming 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:17.479 something else. To me, he's blaming the internet pornography on 1:16:17.560 --> 1:16:19.280 why he cheated on his wife, you know what I mean. 1:16:20.080 --> 1:16:22.200 So that's like, that's it all in twenty fifteen, and 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:22.880 that's kind of all. 1:16:22.960 --> 1:16:25.160 We've never gone to jail or anything. 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:27.720 No, I mean, he was a kid when it happened too, 1:16:27.720 --> 1:16:30.240 it was he was fourteen when it happened. I bet 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:32.720 if the cops had actually dug in in Arkansas, they 1:16:32.760 --> 1:16:35.160 would have found that he was continuing. 1:16:34.560 --> 1:16:37.960 To molest or like you know, do stuff like that later. 1:16:38.280 --> 1:16:40.960 But I mean the fact that the judge ordered for 1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:45.439 the like documents to be destroyed. I didn't realize that 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:48.599 part was true in the episode. And again we talk 1:16:48.640 --> 1:16:51.840 about this NonStop, but it's like, stop telling people to 1:16:51.880 --> 1:16:53.240 go to the cops, or why don't you go to 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:55.080 the cops, or if this happened, you should have done 1:16:55.080 --> 1:16:57.240 this or that, And it's like the cops and judge 1:16:57.280 --> 1:17:01.439 the lead are destroying complaints and documents. It's like, the fuck, 1:17:01.520 --> 1:17:03.320 it's so fucked yuh up. 1:17:04.479 --> 1:17:07.800 Yeah yeah, So now we don't hear anything about the 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:10.840 duggers and not nothing we obviously for some reason, People 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:13.599 Magazine keeps posting when these people get married or when 1:17:13.640 --> 1:17:15.439 they have a kid, and like the two of the 1:17:15.479 --> 1:17:17.960 younger daughters get like a spin off show about them 1:17:18.000 --> 1:17:21.120 having kids. Like it's like gross, how obsessed people are 1:17:21.160 --> 1:17:21.879 with this family. 1:17:22.080 --> 1:17:23.000 But I wonder if. 1:17:22.920 --> 1:17:24.760 People are watching it like us that are like, oh 1:17:24.800 --> 1:17:27.240 I want to see these freaks, or how many like 1:17:27.360 --> 1:17:30.200 or is it religious people being like these are our heroes? 1:17:30.920 --> 1:17:32.400 I know, I wonder what the percentage is. 1:17:32.479 --> 1:17:34.600 I bet you could tell a lot by looking at 1:17:34.640 --> 1:17:37.360 like a demographic map of like who's watching it, like, 1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:39.720 because I'm sure the people that are like in their 1:17:39.800 --> 1:17:44.240 area are like this is an example of perfect like pious, 1:17:44.320 --> 1:17:46.760 righteous living, and then the people that are watching it 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:50.240 in New York City are clearly like, you know, watching. 1:17:49.880 --> 1:17:52.479 It to see look at how these weirdos live. 1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:57.960 But now fast forward to twenty twenty one, this current 1:17:58.000 --> 1:18:03.160 year of our Lord, and this past April April twenty fourth, 1:18:03.640 --> 1:18:07.000 Josh Douger and his wife Anna announced they are pregnant 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:10.680 with their seventh child. They all have m names, by 1:18:10.680 --> 1:18:13.920 the way, VARV, which US Magazine published. And I think 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:16.080 that you guys need to just like stop keeping up 1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:18.639 with Josh Dugger, Like why are you posting like a 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:22.639 a birth announcement for a child, like a former child molester, 1:18:24.040 --> 1:18:26.760 well not a former I don't know what you would say, 1:18:26.840 --> 1:18:29.799 why are you posting? I don't understand why US Weekly 1:18:29.880 --> 1:18:32.080 is like everyone needs to know about Josh Douger's like 1:18:32.840 --> 1:18:35.599 whereabouts and like what's comings and goings. We don't need 1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:36.800 to know anymore. He doesn't need to be in the 1:18:36.840 --> 1:18:40.360 celebrity section like you no longer like People magazine doesn't 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:42.840 put like when Jared from Subway has a birthday, or 1:18:42.880 --> 1:18:45.080 like when Harvey Weinstein gets remarried, you know what I mean, 1:18:45.120 --> 1:18:46.640 Like these people could just be off the list of 1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:50.240 famous people. So April twenty ninth, five days after this 1:18:50.320 --> 1:18:53.680 birth announcement, Josh Douger is arrested by US Marshalls on 1:18:53.800 --> 1:18:58.120 child pornography charges. Nuts He pleads not guilty, but if 1:18:58.160 --> 1:18:59.280 he is found guilty. 1:18:59.000 --> 1:19:01.200 He could get up to twenty years in federal prison. 1:19:01.320 --> 1:19:02.559 I hope he gets the max. 1:19:03.360 --> 1:19:05.960 Yeah, And don't worry, his dumb wife is still standing 1:19:05.960 --> 1:19:06.559 by her man. 1:19:06.800 --> 1:19:08.439 And I want you to know. 1:19:08.360 --> 1:19:10.439 That I am reading articles on Fox News for you 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:12.960 guys here, so you're welcome, Like I'm actually doing the 1:19:13.000 --> 1:19:15.200 things you don't want to be doing. Uh. And I 1:19:15.240 --> 1:19:17.439 read an article where his wife was like they were 1:19:17.479 --> 1:19:21.000 saying his that like divorce is like not even an 1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:23.200 option for her. She's a good Christian girl and she 1:19:23.240 --> 1:19:26.680 would not even consider that. Josh is currently living with 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:29.760 third party custodians at a home away from his aunt 1:19:29.760 --> 1:19:32.760 wife Anna and their six kids, per court order. So 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:35.880 now this poor fucking pregnant woman and has to keep 1:19:35.920 --> 1:19:38.960 track of six kids and is pregnant because her husband 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:41.600 can't even be home to help her because he's a 1:19:41.640 --> 1:19:45.040 fucking criminal. And last month Josh was granted to stay 1:19:45.040 --> 1:19:47.920 at his trial and it was moved from July to November, 1:19:48.040 --> 1:19:49.560 so we will see what happens. It was supposed to 1:19:49.560 --> 1:19:53.040 happen July sixth, now it's happening November thirtieth. An active case. 1:19:53.800 --> 1:19:56.400 An active case. I will obviously be probably keeping an 1:19:56.439 --> 1:19:58.200 eye on it. I'm sure you guys will also let 1:19:58.200 --> 1:20:01.040 me know, in the DMS. But we'll see what happens 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:03.559 to him in November. In terms of this chop pornography case, 1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:06.760 I don't really think that the US Marshals, I don't 1:20:06.760 --> 1:20:09.800 know with internet crimes. I'm kind of like, if they 1:20:09.840 --> 1:20:12.080 found the stuff on your computer, like there's I don't 1:20:12.080 --> 1:20:13.559 see how there's a way to get out of it, 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:14.320 you know what I mean. 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:16.960 Yeah, he's pulling a Hank Abraham everything he can. Yeah, 1:20:16.960 --> 1:20:21.880 he's just grasping at straws. And I always I mean, 1:20:21.920 --> 1:20:25.640 obviously this is not true, but it's like if the 1:20:25.680 --> 1:20:29.000 FBI or US Marshals are involved, you're pretty much guilty. 1:20:29.479 --> 1:20:31.519 Yeah, Cause it's just like for me, internet stuff is 1:20:31.520 --> 1:20:33.639 like a little bit different than like, you know, crimes 1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:35.559 on the street or whatever. It's like, I wasn't there. 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:37.559 I have an alibi. It's like, no, it's your computer. 1:20:37.720 --> 1:20:40.160 It's like your IP address. Like stuff is a little 1:20:40.160 --> 1:20:43.240 bit more. You know, you paid for this with your 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:44.760 credit card, et cetera, et cetera. 1:20:44.880 --> 1:20:46.120 And it's like what we hate them all for. 1:20:46.200 --> 1:20:48.000 And it's still just like and the wife won't divorce 1:20:48.080 --> 1:20:49.880 them because she is a good person, and it's like 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:52.760 it's all, it's all still put on this woman who 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:55.680 has to like stick by this child molester. And I'm 1:20:55.720 --> 1:20:57.639 going off of no evidence at all. There's no way 1:20:57.640 --> 1:20:59.960 this motherfucker did not molest. 1:20:59.720 --> 1:21:03.360 The childild, right, because I bet you that a lot 1:21:03.360 --> 1:21:06.800 of people are like he was fourteen fifteen, he was 1:21:06.840 --> 1:21:09.680 in a religious environment where he was he was not 1:21:09.720 --> 1:21:12.040 allowed to have any sexual outlet, so of course he 1:21:12.120 --> 1:21:14.559 molested his sisters, Like I could see people arguing that. 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:15.839 But now that he's. 1:21:15.720 --> 1:21:19.280 Gone through puberty and he's married to like a woman, 1:21:19.439 --> 1:21:21.760 he's you know, probably getting the sex life that he 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:24.479 needs from his wife. And I'm sure he hasn't committed 1:21:24.520 --> 1:21:26.439 any crimes. And it's like no, now now he has 1:21:26.439 --> 1:21:28.240 a child pornography like charge. 1:21:28.320 --> 1:21:30.400 Yeah, and it's like twenty twenty one, what was I 1:21:30.439 --> 1:21:31.959 looking forward to my birthday? 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:34.800 Halloween? And now this fucking trial add it to the list. 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:40.479 All right, Well we have like if you guys are like, wow, 1:21:40.520 --> 1:21:42.640 what a bummer of a crime, we have such a 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:53.559 great guests coming up, So you're gonna have your palette cleansed. Okay, 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:56.439 I'm so excited for you guys to hear our chat 1:21:56.479 --> 1:21:59.879 with our next guest. She is a Tony nominated actress 1:22:00.080 --> 1:22:03.400 her performance in the Playhand to God on Broadway. 1:22:03.720 --> 1:22:05.679 But you can see her now on. 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:09.920 The show Bull, which is every Thursday night on CBS 1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:12.360 at ten pm. She has been on all of the 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:14.720 Law and Orders multiple times and has been on SVU 1:22:14.840 --> 1:22:17.080 three times. But we are talking with her today about 1:22:17.120 --> 1:22:20.439 her role as Pam Baker. Guys, we're talking to the 1:22:20.479 --> 1:22:24.080 one and only Geneva Carr. Wait, so you just got 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:28.200 back from France. Tell us what's going on in France? 1:22:28.680 --> 1:22:31.160 Less than forty eight hours ago. I went to graduate 1:22:31.160 --> 1:22:33.840 school there and the lady that I taught English too, 1:22:33.920 --> 1:22:36.160 who I didn't do a great job, I'll admit it. 1:22:36.640 --> 1:22:39.080 We're still like this and I go see them all 1:22:39.080 --> 1:22:41.280 the time. And I went to spend time with her 1:22:41.320 --> 1:22:44.439 and her family and we did a Pilates retreat that 1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:49.280 was utterly life affirming after this very painful year. 1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:52.439 Yeah, whereabouts in France? 1:22:52.880 --> 1:22:55.280 I was in Paris, and then I went to Normandy 1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:58.080 to see friends and the plates restreat. Retreat was in 1:22:58.320 --> 1:23:02.240 La Drome, which is in the southeast part of France 1:23:02.280 --> 1:23:04.840 but not up to the water, so it's where they 1:23:04.880 --> 1:23:05.760 grow lavender. 1:23:06.080 --> 1:23:07.720 Oh wow, my god. 1:23:08.040 --> 1:23:09.840 I was in lavender fields. 1:23:09.880 --> 1:23:11.439 So pilates all day. 1:23:11.520 --> 1:23:14.800 How much pilates versus you know, chatting and hanging. 1:23:15.280 --> 1:23:18.000 It's plates in the morning, pilates in the afternoon, a 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:20.320 lot of chatting. And the French like to eat dinner 1:23:20.360 --> 1:23:21.920 around eleven o'clock at night. 1:23:22.080 --> 1:23:23.799 So yeah, who. 1:23:25.400 --> 1:23:27.839 We were at the pool, but it was ten ladies 1:23:28.080 --> 1:23:31.120 and just like everywhere in life, everybody had gone through 1:23:31.120 --> 1:23:34.840 something traumatic and come out the other side. And I 1:23:35.400 --> 1:23:37.320 it just makes me so grateful to be able to 1:23:37.360 --> 1:23:41.040 spend time and learn from people after this gear of 1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:44.360 sadness and loss and loneliness. There was ice cream, but 1:23:44.439 --> 1:23:44.960 there was a lot. 1:23:44.840 --> 1:23:52.920 Of this episode jam packed with drama. Did it look 1:23:52.960 --> 1:23:55.400 and seem feel creepy or did it feel like a set? 1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:57.120 One was just like a child and the men and 1:23:57.120 --> 1:23:59.519 everyone's wearing white dresses and then the kid wedding at 1:23:59.560 --> 1:23:59.920 the end. 1:24:00.479 --> 1:24:02.280 Was that like off putting the look at or. 1:24:02.520 --> 1:24:06.000 How What was so interesting is that Ryan Devlin, who 1:24:06.240 --> 1:24:08.400 played the bad guy. I hope I've spoiled it for 1:24:08.400 --> 1:24:09.680 everyone who'll watch it in the future, but. 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.320 They've just listened to us recap the entire episode. 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:16.680 Oh goodness, looks Ryan looks like he was on the 1:24:16.720 --> 1:24:21.160 cover of Tiger Beat Andy. He's like a preteen girls 1:24:21.200 --> 1:24:23.880 fantasy of a man because he's so innocent and sweet 1:24:23.880 --> 1:24:26.960 and kind. So it was creepy to know that was 1:24:27.040 --> 1:24:31.240 the bad guy. And those kids, My god, how many 1:24:31.320 --> 1:24:33.320 kids did I have? You know, Bakers doesn't. 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:34.560 Yeah, it was. 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:39.040 They were all so sweet. They were all so sweet, 1:24:39.080 --> 1:24:41.960 and I run into them all the time. And Victoria, 1:24:42.120 --> 1:24:43.640 her dad wrote a movie and they asked me to 1:24:43.680 --> 1:24:45.479 do it and I couldn't because of my schedule. But 1:24:45.960 --> 1:24:47.920 I'm in touch with all those kids. I talked to Victoria, 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.680 touch to Rachel, who is my oldest daughter, who was 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:54.200 the one babysitting the little kid, because apparently this mom 1:24:54.280 --> 1:24:57.479 just passed her kids off to the one that got bigger. Yeah, 1:24:57.520 --> 1:25:00.639 but Victoria is a tiny little thing. Oh wow, it's 1:25:00.720 --> 1:25:01.400 pretty creepy. 1:25:01.479 --> 1:25:03.600 I can't believe you kept in touch with the kids. 1:25:04.000 --> 1:25:05.200 I loved those kids. 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:06.640 They were so amazing. 1:25:07.120 --> 1:25:09.599 We were wondering, was it like twenty five sets of 1:25:09.680 --> 1:25:12.439 parents on the on the set, like, because they all 1:25:12.439 --> 1:25:13.919 have to have their parents with them. 1:25:14.080 --> 1:25:16.320 The minute you turn eighteen, they don't have to be there, 1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:20.080 so anybody taller than me was okay, just the little 1:25:20.120 --> 1:25:20.960 tiny kids. 1:25:21.160 --> 1:25:25.240 Yeah, yeah, Well we were also wondering, like, how was 1:25:25.280 --> 1:25:28.639 it because you obviously have like a great fashion sense French, 1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:31.960 et cetera, but like you had to wear these, like, 1:25:32.240 --> 1:25:35.040 you know, turtleneck dresses. What was what was the wardrobe 1:25:35.120 --> 1:25:36.240 situation like for you? 1:25:36.880 --> 1:25:42.160 The wardrobe situation was a little painful because I felt amish. 1:25:42.240 --> 1:25:43.840 I don't know how to say that in a nice way. 1:25:43.960 --> 1:25:48.360 Just baggy, unattractive clothes. Turtlenecks just make they make me 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:54.000 look awful. So I felt really homely. But I felt 1:25:54.080 --> 1:25:57.200 very maternal because Victoria, who played the girl that you 1:25:57.240 --> 1:26:01.000 know had the mishap, shall we say it, was this tiny, 1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:05.759 little feminine angel, So it was easy to think about 1:26:05.760 --> 1:26:09.120 someone other than myself. On a daily basis, I'm completely 1:26:09.160 --> 1:26:11.599 self involved, but on that day it was nice. 1:26:12.160 --> 1:26:14.160 Did you get along with your co star who played 1:26:14.200 --> 1:26:14.719 your husband? 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:17.960 Well, I can out him because he's already out in 1:26:18.000 --> 1:26:19.960 the open, but I've had a crush on him for 1:26:20.040 --> 1:26:23.240 about fifteen years. And his husband came to the set. 1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:28.799 That is that would not be accepted in their religion. 1:26:28.960 --> 1:26:30.360 That would be right, okay. 1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:35.519 Well not unexpected, but you know, and where did you. 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:39.320 When did you develop the crush on him? Was he 1:26:39.400 --> 1:26:41.000 in something that you saw him in? 1:26:41.680 --> 1:26:44.560 I saw him at an audition and I just was smitten. 1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:49.200 And he tells really funny story when he quit doing 1:26:49.320 --> 1:26:52.720 commercial acting because he had to show up to a 1:26:52.720 --> 1:26:56.639 commercial audition and pretend to be a bear and stand 1:26:56.680 --> 1:26:59.800 on a table and undress and like Patti's chest. He 1:27:00.160 --> 1:27:02.479 just said that was his last commercial audition, and I 1:27:02.560 --> 1:27:04.799 was there, and I think he was so charming telling 1:27:04.880 --> 1:27:08.920 that story. So it's ever it's been like fifteen years. 1:27:09.080 --> 1:27:11.360 Was it don Kay's casting? I'll never forget it? And 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:14.280 then I found out not in my wheelhouse. But he 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:15.240 was great to work with. 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:19.400 Have you ever met someone at an audition that you've 1:27:19.640 --> 1:27:21.080 hooked up with or stayed friends with? 1:27:22.000 --> 1:27:25.240 I never hooked up, but I have stayed friends with. 1:27:25.720 --> 1:27:27.840 I would say seventy five percent of the people I 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:30.960 audition with. There's a funny thing that happens in New 1:27:31.040 --> 1:27:35.000 York where when you audition with people I used to 1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:38.280 call us the usual suspects. They're looking for a middle 1:27:38.360 --> 1:27:42.280 aged blonde, I know everybody. And then there's something also 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:44.960 great in New York when they want a middle aged 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:49.280 harmless looking lady. You all see each other, and so 1:27:49.640 --> 1:27:52.400 I've grown up with these women. I've watched their babies 1:27:52.800 --> 1:27:57.080 in strollers while they're auditioning, and they're just the best 1:27:57.120 --> 1:28:00.360 support system. And when I was on Broadway to Cantic 1:28:00.400 --> 1:28:04.760 Good before Bowl, they came every night every night after 1:28:04.880 --> 1:28:07.120 said I knew from auditions that are my friends would come, 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:09.880 and the other actress be like, Jesus, how many people 1:28:09.920 --> 1:28:12.320 do you know? They're still coming? But they just came 1:28:12.400 --> 1:28:16.280 like crazy. They're so supportive, And that's kind of the 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:19.400 great thing about New York is we know each other, 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:21.120 we support each other. If I don't get it, I 1:28:21.160 --> 1:28:23.920 want you to get it. And that's a really healthy 1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:26.320 attitude that I really cherish here. 1:28:26.840 --> 1:28:29.600 Well, better part of it is also you, because it 1:28:29.600 --> 1:28:31.679 seems like you still keep in touch with the kids 1:28:31.680 --> 1:28:34.959 you worked with and all these people, so it probably 1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:37.200 is your friendly spirit as well. 1:28:39.560 --> 1:28:41.040 We'll see if you and I stay in touch. 1:28:41.280 --> 1:28:43.519 Yeah. 1:28:43.600 --> 1:28:45.920 Well, speaking of auditions, since you were in the Dick 1:28:45.960 --> 1:28:48.800 Wolf universe and done so many of the crime shows, 1:28:48.840 --> 1:28:51.640 did was this an offer only or how did this 1:28:51.720 --> 1:28:52.200 come about? 1:28:53.080 --> 1:28:57.799 It was my first offer. I have some exciting news. 1:28:58.560 --> 1:29:01.680 Warren Light is the show runner of SBU and he 1:29:01.760 --> 1:29:03.360 writes and he wrote it for me. 1:29:03.720 --> 1:29:04.240 Wow. 1:29:05.080 --> 1:29:07.479 But yeah, your first episode was with Amanda Plumber, you 1:29:07.479 --> 1:29:11.480 played her sister, and then your second episode was Mahershela, 1:29:12.120 --> 1:29:14.719 and then your third was this one. 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:18.040 Yeah, that Amanda Plumber episode's one of my favorites. 1:29:18.680 --> 1:29:22.599 Amanda Plumber was not acting. She was so amazing that 1:29:22.840 --> 1:29:25.800 even when we weren't filming, she decided to stay in 1:29:25.920 --> 1:29:31.160 character and she was that fragile all through the week 1:29:31.200 --> 1:29:33.559 long shoot. She was astounding to watch. 1:29:33.840 --> 1:29:34.440 Wow. 1:29:34.960 --> 1:29:37.360 Yeah, Wow, that's how she does it. She can't get 1:29:37.360 --> 1:29:40.320 out of character. She had to stay focused to play 1:29:40.360 --> 1:29:40.880 that lady. 1:29:42.040 --> 1:29:43.800 Yeah. And I think she won an Emmy for that. 1:29:44.360 --> 1:29:46.599 Oh she deserved it. Yeah, I think she did. 1:29:47.080 --> 1:29:47.840 Yeah. Well. 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:52.080 Being in the SVU universe for so many years, have 1:29:52.160 --> 1:29:54.960 you noticed any changes on set or with the vir 1:29:55.040 --> 1:29:58.400 or any sort of like big different changes from your 1:29:58.439 --> 1:29:59.720 first to last episode. 1:30:00.360 --> 1:30:05.360 Yes, because my first episodes, Maloney was number one, Marishka 1:30:05.439 --> 1:30:07.960 was number two, and then he left to do something else. 1:30:08.040 --> 1:30:09.880 We all know he has a great show, and they 1:30:09.880 --> 1:30:12.360 did that stuff together because they have such great chemistry. 1:30:12.400 --> 1:30:17.280 But the number one really dictates the vibe, and Maloney 1:30:17.439 --> 1:30:21.599 is very serious. He's there to work. I mean, he's 1:30:21.640 --> 1:30:25.360 super nice. He was always very kind to me, especially 1:30:25.360 --> 1:30:27.760 the one with Marschela where I know I had to 1:30:27.760 --> 1:30:29.800 burst into tears at the drop of a hat and 1:30:29.800 --> 1:30:31.639 I was like, listen, Chris, I really have to focus, 1:30:31.680 --> 1:30:35.920 and he was absolutely understanding. But when Marishka became the 1:30:36.000 --> 1:30:41.880 number one, she's got a very silly quality and she's 1:30:42.080 --> 1:30:45.479 super fun and laughy and silly, which is so ironic 1:30:45.520 --> 1:30:49.479 but the subject matter, but particularly episode with all the kids, 1:30:49.560 --> 1:30:52.799 they were also excited to meet her. She will stop 1:30:53.439 --> 1:30:56.479 doing anything to get a selfie with someone to make 1:30:56.520 --> 1:30:59.400 sure they feel special. And I think now that she's 1:30:59.439 --> 1:31:03.080 a mother, she really caters to making the guest children 1:31:03.680 --> 1:31:07.120 feel special and protected and wonderful. And that was the 1:31:07.200 --> 1:31:09.760 vibe that it was. It was a serious job, and 1:31:09.840 --> 1:31:14.320 with Marishka, she really wants kind of a goofy, happy, 1:31:14.720 --> 1:31:18.360 freer set. So both are good. I mean, listen, when 1:31:18.360 --> 1:31:20.000 you got to cry at the drop of a hat. 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:23.760 I was appreciative that Maloney was so understanding. But it 1:31:23.840 --> 1:31:26.400 was nice with Mrshcha and she was super complimentary. I 1:31:26.439 --> 1:31:29.240 don't know if you remember the scene where we find 1:31:29.240 --> 1:31:32.280 out you know, who did this to my daughter? And 1:31:32.360 --> 1:31:35.200 I had to, you know, burst into tears and be horrified. 1:31:35.240 --> 1:31:38.040 And I got to go first, which is very rare. 1:31:38.120 --> 1:31:40.760 That's another generous thing she gave me. Usually the number 1:31:40.840 --> 1:31:43.439 one goes first for the close up, but Marishka let 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:45.519 me go first, and I was a nightmare. And she 1:31:45.680 --> 1:31:47.640 came up to me afterwards and said, Hey, we're going 1:31:47.680 --> 1:31:51.320 to break for lunch and I'm going to need you 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:53.160 to do all of that again because I need to 1:31:53.200 --> 1:31:56.160 be as good as I just was. I was like, girl, 1:31:56.280 --> 1:31:59.160 you got it. I'm going to do it, so you know, 1:31:59.200 --> 1:32:02.400 I just I did it for everybody. And she's super supportive, 1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:03.960 so it was really fun working with her. 1:32:04.439 --> 1:32:06.439 And how do you get to that place when you 1:32:06.479 --> 1:32:09.240 have to cry on, like you said, a drop of 1:32:09.240 --> 1:32:12.960 a hat and do multiple takes? Do you think how 1:32:12.960 --> 1:32:14.800 do you get to the crying spot? 1:32:15.920 --> 1:32:16.559 That is a. 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:21.679 Great question, And I actually have to say that it's 1:32:21.800 --> 1:32:25.160 the writing that really matters. If the writing leads you there, 1:32:25.760 --> 1:32:30.160 then you lean into the writing because you can't cry 1:32:30.160 --> 1:32:34.920 about nothing. So that episode was so intense to fight. 1:32:35.040 --> 1:32:38.760 That's the moment I find out that my thirteen year 1:32:38.800 --> 1:32:42.040 old daughter was giving birth to the pastor's baby, and 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:45.799 the writing led me there and looking at that little girl, 1:32:45.920 --> 1:32:48.240 I mean they cast a teeny I think she was 1:32:48.280 --> 1:32:53.280 seventeen at the time, but she looked eleven. So that 1:32:53.479 --> 1:32:55.799 was easy. The one that I did with Amanda Plumber 1:32:56.560 --> 1:33:00.160 was more exposition, and it was harder to get to 1:33:00.160 --> 1:33:02.640 that place. And it's interesting that you ask how do 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:05.400 you do that? Because I was much greener when I 1:33:05.439 --> 1:33:09.320 did that first episode, and I was I was so nervous, 1:33:09.520 --> 1:33:13.040 and I did everybody else's close up first, and that 1:33:13.240 --> 1:33:17.080 day Marishka had said, yeah, it takes a really great 1:33:17.080 --> 1:33:20.200 actress to cry on cue, which was a compliment to me. 1:33:20.920 --> 1:33:23.960 But in my nervousness, I was like, oh god, am 1:33:23.960 --> 1:33:25.439 I go to actress. Let me see if I could 1:33:25.439 --> 1:33:27.439 cry again. And I'm on my own close up. I 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:31.519 was squeezing out tears. It was really hard. Yeah, but 1:33:32.240 --> 1:33:33.880 it just but that's when in the day that I 1:33:33.880 --> 1:33:36.160 worked with Chris, I knew that after having done that 1:33:36.240 --> 1:33:37.760 other episode, and I was like, do you mind if 1:33:37.760 --> 1:33:42.759 we don't talk because it's hard to deliver in seconds 1:33:42.800 --> 1:33:46.200 like that. And I think Marishka's trick is that she 1:33:46.439 --> 1:33:49.599 is so embedded. She and maloney, are so embedded who 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:53.960 those people are that they can pull on stuff. And 1:33:54.040 --> 1:33:56.240 also she said, I think she said this to the 1:33:56.360 --> 1:34:00.719 daughter that she wasn't asked the same thing. The people 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:03.600 who guests are have to pull off the tears and 1:34:03.640 --> 1:34:06.800 the drama because they're the people having it happen and 1:34:07.120 --> 1:34:10.360 the SVU team or the people figuring it out. And 1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:15.400 she was generous to say that, you know it's hard 1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:16.879 when you step into those shoes. 1:34:17.960 --> 1:34:21.240 And were you aware of the duggers when you went 1:34:21.320 --> 1:34:23.080 to film this episode. 1:34:23.320 --> 1:34:29.120 Oh heaven, STEVETSI, I sure was. I actually watched some 1:34:29.280 --> 1:34:34.240 dugger to get a load of it, and I brought 1:34:34.280 --> 1:34:37.240 my hair extensions in because Mamma Douggar has really thick 1:34:37.280 --> 1:34:40.400 hair those having all those children to take away that 1:34:40.560 --> 1:34:44.439 for her, and they didn't give me a ponytail because 1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.439 it was too dugger. She's big on the ponytail. But yes, 1:34:47.800 --> 1:34:50.080 I wanted to recreate some of that. I think I 1:34:50.120 --> 1:34:52.000 was definitely inspired by Mama Dougar. 1:34:52.400 --> 1:34:56.040 Yeah, they're like sweetness and the naivete is that the 1:34:56.040 --> 1:34:59.160 word for sure? Like the innocence of it is there 1:34:59.160 --> 1:35:03.240 anywhere else you drew inspiration from the character besides the Duggars. 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:05.400 Yeah, I was wondering if you knew ever had any 1:35:05.400 --> 1:35:08.560 religious fanatics in your life where you could get inspiration. 1:35:09.600 --> 1:35:15.880 I was raised Catholic, but it's the same thing. There's 1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:20.680 a there's a naivete and also a willingness to go 1:35:20.800 --> 1:35:24.320 along with who's in charge. And I used my dad 1:35:24.400 --> 1:35:27.080 was a deacon, my mother was a secretary for a priest, 1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:30.920 and I thought a lot about how the Catholic Church 1:35:31.360 --> 1:35:34.599 teaches subservience. And so I don't know if you remember, 1:35:34.640 --> 1:35:37.800 in the first scene we're we're questioned by Mauritia, I 1:35:37.840 --> 1:35:40.840 looked to my husband every time I answered because I 1:35:40.920 --> 1:35:43.600 wanted to get his approval. That was something that I 1:35:43.680 --> 1:35:47.040 thought that character would do. And that last scene, when 1:35:47.080 --> 1:35:49.360 I find out who did it, that's when I didn't 1:35:49.360 --> 1:35:54.200 look to my husband, because that was a mother, you know, 1:35:54.320 --> 1:35:56.920 terrified and protecting her daughter. So that was something I 1:35:57.000 --> 1:36:02.280 consciously did. Outward appearances and that kind of culture, and I, 1:36:02.479 --> 1:36:05.519 you know, I'm making broad stroke statements, but from what 1:36:05.680 --> 1:36:10.000 I decided in that particular family, the Bakers, that outside 1:36:10.000 --> 1:36:14.599 appearances really matter. When you asked, was I creeped out about? 1:36:14.720 --> 1:36:17.120 You know the pastor, I was more creeped out at 1:36:17.120 --> 1:36:21.680 the Purity Ball because it was it was almost romantic 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:26.280 and seeing all these fathers dance with their daughters, the 1:36:26.280 --> 1:36:29.400 mothers pushed to the side. I didn't get some cute outfit. 1:36:29.439 --> 1:36:32.080 Nobody was dancing with me. I married the man and 1:36:32.120 --> 1:36:33.560 it was so creepy. 1:36:33.880 --> 1:36:37.719 Yeah, So you've done like so many law and orders. 1:36:37.760 --> 1:36:40.800 You've done Blue Blood's Elementary Bull is a legal show 1:36:40.840 --> 1:36:42.879 in a way, Like, is this just kind of your genre, 1:36:43.040 --> 1:36:46.120 this like the legal stuff, or just kind of where 1:36:46.120 --> 1:36:47.439 you're I don't know. 1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:49.760 Well, I think there's so much of this kind of 1:36:49.800 --> 1:36:52.640 TV in New York that that's what I've done. But 1:36:52.840 --> 1:36:57.080 I came from theater and I did kind of crazy comedy, 1:36:57.600 --> 1:36:57.840 you know. 1:36:58.040 --> 1:37:00.479 Yeah, Well we saw you, We saw you been on 1:37:00.600 --> 1:37:03.639 like Onion stuff and Chappelle's Show. So I was wondering 1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:06.959 your feelings on comedy. Is that like, I mean, obviously 1:37:06.960 --> 1:37:08.800 you probably have feelings that they're both fun to do 1:37:08.840 --> 1:37:09.559 in different ways. 1:37:09.600 --> 1:37:11.160 But well, I. 1:37:11.120 --> 1:37:13.439 Think it's funny that you say that. We have new 1:37:13.479 --> 1:37:17.080 showrunners on Bowl and we had interviews with the new 1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:19.200 showrunners and the writers, and they said, what are your 1:37:19.200 --> 1:37:21.280 goals this year? What would you like us to accomplish 1:37:21.320 --> 1:37:23.559 for you? And I said, I want to speak French. 1:37:24.000 --> 1:37:26.120 I'd like to date a man of color, and I'd 1:37:26.160 --> 1:37:29.840 like to be funny. And one of our writers used 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:33.040 to be the head writer on Mysteries of Laura. Oh okay, 1:37:33.200 --> 1:37:35.719 and that was a really funny show. And he kindly 1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:37.679 timed in for me and said that I was funny. 1:37:37.680 --> 1:37:41.960 But they are adding some comedic stuff. Michael Weatherley's directing 1:37:41.960 --> 1:37:44.200 our first episodes. I chatted with him today about that 1:37:44.640 --> 1:37:47.839 for season six and we're going to bring some funny 1:37:47.840 --> 1:37:50.479 bones into bowl because that's my jam. 1:37:50.720 --> 1:37:51.400 I love it. 1:37:51.800 --> 1:37:55.400 If you were to come back to SVU for your 1:37:55.479 --> 1:37:57.760 fourth time, what would be your dream role? 1:37:58.320 --> 1:38:01.160 Yeah, that is a great question. 1:38:00.880 --> 1:38:03.200 Because you've been a victim's sister, You've been a victim, 1:38:03.280 --> 1:38:05.920 and now you've been like sort of this mom main character. 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:08.520 But what haven't you done? 1:38:08.840 --> 1:38:13.799 I think I would like to be a stepmother who 1:38:14.320 --> 1:38:19.760 has a romantic relationship with her step son and I 1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:22.360 would like them to try to prove to me that 1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:25.479 it's wrong, and I'd go to prison and I just 1:38:25.640 --> 1:38:30.120 can't understand. You know, love is love. It's hideous, but 1:38:30.160 --> 1:38:33.240 it would be so fun to play. To be such 1:38:33.240 --> 1:38:36.160 a wicked, awful person, but to think that you're really 1:38:36.200 --> 1:38:37.560 just loving someone. 1:38:38.160 --> 1:38:39.439 That is a great answer. 1:38:39.600 --> 1:38:42.320 We get like a young Timothy Chalomet type in there 1:38:42.400 --> 1:38:43.400 to play your steps on. 1:38:44.040 --> 1:38:45.720 Oh god, I'm ready, Where do my said? 1:38:50.320 --> 1:38:54.240 What a superstar she was dressed. I love so good. 1:38:55.120 --> 1:39:00.160 She has such a good attitude, and I just I 1:39:00.240 --> 1:39:02.719 want to eat chocolate with her in her closet. 1:39:03.360 --> 1:39:05.360 You're both in closets and I want her to take 1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:09.840 me to France. Yes, we're both closet cases. 1:39:09.760 --> 1:39:13.200 Drinking champagne in her closet while eating like a box 1:39:13.240 --> 1:39:15.439 of chocolates where we each eat half and like have 1:39:15.680 --> 1:39:17.719 Like that's what I imagine doing with Geneva. 1:39:18.360 --> 1:39:21.600 Yeah, she should start a podcast called dark Chocolate and 1:39:21.680 --> 1:39:24.479 Dry Champagne. And that's what she does. People come to 1:39:24.520 --> 1:39:27.559 her closet, she wears awesome outfits. They speak a little 1:39:27.560 --> 1:39:28.879 French and then they gap. 1:39:28.760 --> 1:39:30.600 And I'll be like, can I call you Jenny, And 1:39:30.640 --> 1:39:35.519 She'll be like no, no, no, no, That's what I 1:39:35.560 --> 1:39:37.920 want with our girl, Geneva. And I can't wait to 1:39:37.960 --> 1:39:41.920 see her love scenes. Don't you watch bull or no 1:39:42.080 --> 1:39:45.040 Bosh bull Bosh. She like it all well, I don't. 1:39:45.120 --> 1:39:47.920 Yeah, I actually don't watch bull but I might start 1:39:47.960 --> 1:39:51.360 watching it because I love her so much, So it's possibility. 1:39:51.360 --> 1:39:53.759 It's a possibility. But let's get into our post mortem. 1:39:53.760 --> 1:39:57.000 What did we learn from today's episode, Lisa? Besides that 1:39:57.160 --> 1:40:00.040 religion is creepy in a lot of times. 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:02.559 Yeah, I guess we don't have to keep harping that, 1:40:02.640 --> 1:40:07.160 like your daughter's virginity shouldn't be the core. I don't know, 1:40:07.280 --> 1:40:12.360 guiding principle and characteristic of your child shouldn't be just 1:40:12.800 --> 1:40:14.640 what's between their legs. 1:40:14.680 --> 1:40:18.599 Right, or you should actually have like real conversations with 1:40:18.680 --> 1:40:21.160 your kids about sex so that they kind of can 1:40:21.200 --> 1:40:23.680 identify when they're trying to be taken advantage of by 1:40:23.680 --> 1:40:25.560 a pastor, because clearly. 1:40:26.640 --> 1:40:28.080 She didn't really know what was going on. 1:40:29.040 --> 1:40:32.360 Don't trust any pastor that's also a lawyer. I would 1:40:32.439 --> 1:40:36.040 say that if they need a dual citizenship like that, 1:40:36.040 --> 1:40:36.960 that's no, no. 1:40:36.760 --> 1:40:40.200 No duels. They're causing problems. 1:40:40.800 --> 1:40:44.760 Yeah, I think we learned that religious ladies, you guys 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:47.080 need a new Hairdo you need to just come up 1:40:47.120 --> 1:40:49.320 with something different? It can't just be what I call 1:40:49.400 --> 1:40:53.880 some here up, some here down with a poof and 1:40:53.920 --> 1:40:56.400 a long and a long crimp. 1:40:56.960 --> 1:41:01.240 Yeah, just don't have a ton of kids? Is that bad? 1:41:01.720 --> 1:41:03.200 More than ten? You can't. 1:41:03.439 --> 1:41:05.720 I mean, China has the bad rule of more than 1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:07.960 one's a problem and it leads to bad things and 1:41:08.040 --> 1:41:09.160 murdered girl babies. 1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:11.679 But I think ten. Can we have a limit of ten? 1:41:12.600 --> 1:41:14.200 I mean, I think the limit should be lower. And 1:41:14.240 --> 1:41:16.160 I'm coming from a family of I'm one of six, 1:41:16.200 --> 1:41:18.080 my mom's one of fourteen, so I think the limit 1:41:18.080 --> 1:41:20.960 should be even lower. But listen, I think that what's 1:41:21.040 --> 1:41:23.800 crazy is like, let God decide how many kids we're 1:41:23.800 --> 1:41:26.320 going to have, like God. Also, if you believe that 1:41:26.520 --> 1:41:29.280 God also made birth control possible. God made the person 1:41:29.320 --> 1:41:33.040 who discovered birth control allowed that to happen, So birth 1:41:33.080 --> 1:41:36.400 control can be part of your god fearing life. And 1:41:36.439 --> 1:41:40.080 I think that nineteen kids in counting is yeah, too 1:41:40.160 --> 1:41:40.719 many kids. 1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:44.679 It's weird. Too many kids, Yeah, especially if one's a molester. 1:41:44.960 --> 1:41:47.519 You know, Yeah, I don't know what that even means. 1:41:47.880 --> 1:41:50.920 And like, it doesn't make you a good person to 1:41:51.080 --> 1:41:56.040 stand by your husband that continually breaks the law, breaks 1:41:56.040 --> 1:42:02.080 your trust, you know, has to keep writing confessional statements 1:42:02.120 --> 1:42:03.840 about their hypocrisy on Facebook. 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:06.200 If once they've written a couple, it's okay for you 1:42:06.280 --> 1:42:06.559 to leave. 1:42:06.720 --> 1:42:12.519 It's so clear that men in power created religion. It 1:42:12.600 --> 1:42:15.559 just seems a little too convenient. It's like you have 1:42:15.640 --> 1:42:18.240 to do everything domestic and do what I want and 1:42:18.320 --> 1:42:21.240 fuck when I want and I'm always right, and it's 1:42:21.280 --> 1:42:24.639 like that's the really okay, Well that seems that seems 1:42:24.640 --> 1:42:27.080 like a kid making up rules and monopoly to win, right, 1:42:27.800 --> 1:42:30.000 But that also is a gun to your head, Like 1:42:30.040 --> 1:42:32.880 that is like what is this? Like you have to 1:42:33.640 --> 1:42:36.800 question life a little bit, just a little bit, I 1:42:36.800 --> 1:42:38.680 don't know, to be like I hope my daddy likes 1:42:38.720 --> 1:42:45.040 my hair. Like that is sick. It's sick to listen about. Also, 1:42:45.080 --> 1:42:48.000 small towns, you know, don't let the judge and the 1:42:48.080 --> 1:42:51.000 lawyer and the pastor all be related and friends and 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:55.400 playing golf together. Like yeah, yeah, my new rule. If 1:42:55.400 --> 1:42:58.040 you work for the government, you must live in isolation forever. 1:42:58.680 --> 1:43:01.479 Obviously not real. I so did forget to mention something 1:43:01.560 --> 1:43:04.040 up top that I'd like to talk about. I did 1:43:04.080 --> 1:43:06.479 talk about this a little on Instagram, but I was 1:43:06.800 --> 1:43:11.040 stoned nighttime in my hotel room and people were knocking 1:43:11.080 --> 1:43:13.719 on my door NonStop, like at two in the morning 1:43:14.320 --> 1:43:15.920 and they were kids. 1:43:16.040 --> 1:43:20.400 Kids were pulling a prank on me. Lazy you got pranked. 1:43:20.720 --> 1:43:22.559 I did, but I was in a full on panic. 1:43:22.600 --> 1:43:25.880 I called downstairs. I sent an engineer up. The security came, 1:43:26.000 --> 1:43:28.880 they caught the kids and they're like, we can call 1:43:28.880 --> 1:43:31.040 the police. I'm like, we definitely don't have to call 1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:34.799 the police. We won't be pressing charges. What's the charge? 1:43:34.840 --> 1:43:35.719 What's the charge? 1:43:36.640 --> 1:43:37.000 I don't know. 1:43:37.040 --> 1:43:39.760 I was like diservance of disturbance of the comedian, like 1:43:39.840 --> 1:43:40.400 what are you? 1:43:40.680 --> 1:43:41.720 What are you like? 1:43:41.800 --> 1:43:46.080 I don't even know, scaring scaring women that are easily spooked, 1:43:46.160 --> 1:43:49.479 I don't know. But I was like looking at the 1:43:49.520 --> 1:43:51.240 peep hole stressed, you. 1:43:51.160 --> 1:43:53.080 Know which I mean. It's true. 1:43:53.120 --> 1:43:55.400 It's like ninety percent of that hotel people are probably 1:43:55.439 --> 1:43:58.000 watching s view because it is hotel viewing. So you're 1:43:58.040 --> 1:44:01.240 walking around just like scaring a very easily scared population. 1:44:01.880 --> 1:44:04.439 Yeah, or it's like someone cheating on their wife and 1:44:04.479 --> 1:44:06.719 so it's like you're you know, they're gonna be nervous. 1:44:06.720 --> 1:44:10.680 They right, everybody's a little on edge in a hotel. 1:44:11.160 --> 1:44:14.960 Well, I've never stayed in a hotel in my hometown. 1:44:15.360 --> 1:44:19.080 Oh ever, like obviously in Chicago, but never in Skokie. 1:44:19.400 --> 1:44:21.879 Yeah, and you've done airbnb's there, but never a hotel. 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:22.200 Yeah. 1:44:22.439 --> 1:44:24.920 It is pretty wild to like be by the mall, 1:44:25.360 --> 1:44:30.759 you know, I feel poul just walking to my nephew's 1:44:30.760 --> 1:44:32.600 coming to soul cycle with me, my little one, the 1:44:32.600 --> 1:44:33.360 littler one. 1:44:33.560 --> 1:44:36.639 Oh, I cannot wait. 1:44:36.680 --> 1:44:38.719 I think it'll be fun or you'll think I'm crazy. 1:44:39.320 --> 1:44:42.200 I'm embarrassed, so cute. I'm embarrassed to like go like, 1:44:42.720 --> 1:44:43.880 I don't know, we'll see what. 1:44:43.880 --> 1:44:46.519 Happens to really like pull out all the stops and 1:44:46.560 --> 1:44:48.320 like get to the top of that hill. 1:44:49.000 --> 1:44:50.800 Yeah, or what if I start crying? Like what if 1:44:50.840 --> 1:44:52.880 they play Kesha in the right moment and I tear up? 1:44:54.880 --> 1:44:58.640 Tell them it's sweat. Wait, I did learn so we 1:44:58.760 --> 1:45:01.920 also this is obvious us, but don't let your pastor 1:45:01.960 --> 1:45:05.000 marry or child. That's just to throw that in just 1:45:05.040 --> 1:45:09.240 if anyone didn't realize, right, yeah. 1:45:09.120 --> 1:45:11.360 He's wrong with you? What's in your eye? Nothing? 1:45:11.600 --> 1:45:13.640 I was trying to figure out why that pastor was 1:45:13.680 --> 1:45:16.320 like single to begin with, Like why does not that 1:45:16.400 --> 1:45:18.480 pastor have a wife because he's a pedophile? 1:45:19.680 --> 1:45:23.360 Right okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, figure it out. So 1:45:23.680 --> 1:45:25.080 this week, so we did it. 1:45:25.960 --> 1:45:28.559 This week's what would Mister Peg Do our weekly segment 1:45:28.600 --> 1:45:30.640 where we give you guys some more information about what 1:45:30.680 --> 1:45:33.600 we talked about in today's episode or a resource or 1:45:33.640 --> 1:45:36.280 something that can help shine a little bit more of 1:45:36.280 --> 1:45:39.720 a light. And this week our organization is called Recovering 1:45:39.760 --> 1:45:43.120 from Religion. It is Recovering from Religion dot org. 1:45:43.840 --> 1:45:43.960 Uh. 1:45:44.320 --> 1:45:47.839 It is an organization that helps people who have questioned, doubted, 1:45:47.960 --> 1:45:51.919 or changed their beliefs. They connect people with resources, community, 1:45:51.920 --> 1:45:54.720 and help through peer support and professional support. They do 1:45:54.840 --> 1:45:56.920 have a peer support hotline which is one eight for 1:45:57.479 --> 1:46:03.080 I doubt it, I do ou it? And they have 1:46:03.479 --> 1:46:06.360 you know, a secular therapy project with gets you connected 1:46:06.400 --> 1:46:08.880 to a therapist who offers non religious, science based treatment 1:46:08.880 --> 1:46:11.000 and I just thought it was a cool organization, so 1:46:11.320 --> 1:46:13.719 check that out. They've got a blog, YouTube, et cetera, 1:46:13.800 --> 1:46:14.439 et cetera. 1:46:14.960 --> 1:46:18.240 Thanks for sharing, Kara, and next week we will be 1:46:18.320 --> 1:46:22.639 doing a learning curve. That's season thirteen, episode twenty one, 1:46:23.160 --> 1:46:26.320 so watch along with us before or after on Hulu 1:46:26.360 --> 1:46:29.000 peacock or a v VIP VPN. 1:46:29.360 --> 1:46:38.920 Yeah, get a VPN VPN. Thank you so much. Bye. 1:46:42.520 --> 1:46:44.559 That's messed up as an Exactly Right Production. 1:46:44.760 --> 1:46:46.640 If you have compliments you'd like to give us or 1:46:46.680 --> 1:46:48.880 episodes you'd like us to cover, shoot us an email 1:46:48.880 --> 1:46:51.760 at That's Messed Uppod at gmail dot com. 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