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Speaker 4: The world died of well you know how juice world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Know who he said, inspire him to start doing drugs.

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Speaker 3: Because again, context is important where I come from, and

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Speaker 3: So what I look like telling how I'm on all

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Speaker 3: That if I'm strunk out on Lean and all this

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Speaker 2: yo yo. Welcome to It's Up There Podcast.

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Speaker 3: I am your active and attractive hosts Biaging Loan for

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Speaker 3: another episode of the fastest growing podcast in the market

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Speaker 3: All my people on Patreon, y'all keep this thing afloat.

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Speaker 1: How you appreciate you for having me? I heard you

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Speaker 2: So you just you just you just jump out there

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Speaker 3: You've been someone that I've watched from Afar did a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bro something from New Orleans, Louisiana. I graduated college.

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Speaker 2: Jumped out there about a year and a half. Feels rough.

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Speaker 1: Then I put out a song that I wrote back

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Speaker 1: It's twenty ten were talking about.

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Speaker 3: That's what is interesting is that you have strong opinions

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Speaker 1: There you go, right, So that makes some people uncomfortable, right,

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Speaker 1: But to me, that makes me qualified and authentic to

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Speaker 2: I do what y'all do. I know what it's like.

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Speaker 1: So I put Jay fifteen Wheezy video out a year

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Speaker 2: You know that day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that real push behind it, man, trust your gut. Man,

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Speaker 2: That was my first experience going viral on YouTube. Within

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Speaker 2: People, My life changed. I'm on MTV jams.

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Speaker 5: You heard me.

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Speaker 3: It's dope, not a local rapper, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when you did that, was that your big Do

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Speaker 2: You heard me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be cool with everybody

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Speaker 3: Do you think it's glorifying or do you think it's documenting.

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Speaker 2: Well, narration can be from first person. Narration should be.

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Speaker 3: From first so when you say that the right So

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Speaker 3: when you say glorification is from first person, I would

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Speaker 2: So they both come from first person.

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Speaker 1: But the difference is glorification is making it like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about anybody I shot with remorse. I'm

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Speaker 2: It's sitting here like, Man, I killed you in a

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Speaker 2: brag about it. I'm smoking on you right now. That's glorification.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if what big rappers do that though?

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Speaker 2: What big rap bro? You gotta be killing me? What

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Speaker 2: big rappers? What big rappers?

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Speaker 3: I'm not smoking No, no, no, no, specifically I'm smoking

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Speaker 3: on such and such?

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Speaker 2: Man, what bro? Big is relative?

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Speaker 3: I know you're not being serious right now. No, I'm

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Speaker 3: being a hundred per I know you're not being serious.

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Speaker 3: I'm being a hundred name something. I'm waiting on you.

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Speaker 2: Give me some bro. What what big rappers? Don't glorify?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: No, no, how again? You moving the gold post.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you give me smoking on such and such

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Speaker 3: want to get technical, saying I'm smoking on this pack

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Speaker 3: and you got to deal with these No, I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: That's that's new slang and terminology in the culture. When

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Speaker 1: I love Turk. Turk is my man. You heard me,

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Speaker 1: Juvenile is my man.

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Speaker 2: We got songs together. You heard me.

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Speaker 1: Man in fresh is my brother in real life. I

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Speaker 2: Influence on me growing up was Lil Wayne. You feel

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Speaker 2: me the biggest influence BG. I'm happy, BG hung. I

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Speaker 1: Listen, brother, I love all of all of these dudes

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Speaker 1: who I'm talking about as men. But when you talk

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's what I'm saying the respect. No, they're

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Speaker 3: not all characters. Some of them are mascots. Some of

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: If you're rapping about killing somebody and you never killed nobody,

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Speaker 3: Well I'm well again. I think people sometimes I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to to the rapping about killing because

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Speaker 3: I'm still waiting on an example of smoking on such

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Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. So what that happens is is the

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Speaker 3: subculture of rap where these guys are doing this drilling

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Speaker 3: thing that's trying to break into rap. But they'll also

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Speaker 1: But what they are doing, Loan is mainstream artists that

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they might not be saying the smoking stuff. So

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Speaker 2: being put in that type of context, like give me something.

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Speaker 3: Let's deal with examples, because when we cast this wide

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Speaker 3: and net, we can move this thing around where we

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Speaker 1: So for the past few months, there's been all of

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Speaker 1: Do you have an issue with them? It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: I don't have an issue.

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Speaker 2: And for those of y'all don't know what we're talking about.

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Speaker 3: D One went on Swing in the Morning and called

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Speaker 2: Said, we can do better. That's it.

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Speaker 3: That they are positioning themselves is glorifying killing for people

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Speaker 3: that don't have context.

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Speaker 1: And when that happens, I'm like, I love these dudes

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Speaker 1: wouldn't bring light to this. My thing, My thing has

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Speaker 1: my case over there, you heard me, because I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: got Meek Meal shoes in there, Like that's what I

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's that's in there. Man.

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Speaker 1: I can quote you so many Rick Ross and meet

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Speaker 1: my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Like these are good dudes in so many ways.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm sure everybody in the culture looks

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Speaker 1: look at it, like, Man, this dude he ain't never

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Speaker 2: That's like, that's admirable. You know what I'm saying. When

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Speaker 2: you talk about a Jim Jones and you talk about man.

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Speaker 1: His brother is loved and revered by his community, by Harlem,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And just a dude that

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Speaker 1: know that people.

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Speaker 2: People will tell you that lefting right.

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Speaker 1: Across the industry, right, So I'm not unaware of these

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Speaker 1: things at all. So when I'm saying that, it's just like, man,

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Speaker 1: I could have said fifty more people, honestly, but we

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the fans. The culture is uncomfortable with Dang,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to challenge the status quo.

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Speaker 2: And my thing is like, Bro, we don't have.

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Speaker 1: To sit here and feel like we are prisoners of

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Speaker 2: I've been in the studio with rappers.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're talking like this, how me and you talk

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Speaker 1: you heard me? And then he come back out the

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Speaker 1: But that music that he just made, when that go

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Speaker 1: out there to the masses, millions of people are gonna

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Speaker 1: consume that, Bro, And we have been numbed and desensitized

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Speaker 1: to where it's like that ain't a problem.

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00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 2: And if you're speaking on it, you either hating on

438
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 2: that rapper, just hater in general.

439
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 3: Right, But my thing will be in that moment, and

440
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 3: I'll give you some pushback on that, is that you

441
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: being who you are. When he comes out and exhibits that,

442
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 3: then it's time to check it then, right, It's not

443
00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: time to leave the studio and then feel a way

444
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 3: about that. Right if I see a rapper go in

445
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 3: there and exhibit a behavior that I seem to be phony,

446
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,120
Speaker 3: right if I say.

447
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,679
Speaker 2: Damn, me just went in that. That ain't how he was,

448
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 2: just that, ain't. I tell you what I've seen.

449
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: And this is a very well known rapper that talks

450
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: about killing all the time. I've seen them, every time

451
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 3: they're around me. They're very respectful, they're never You.

452
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: Don't want to say who. I don't want to say who,

453
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 2: because why you want me to name all either? Because

454
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 2: I don't stand on that. I don't. I don't.

455
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 3: I know that this is entertainment. I look at these

456
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 3: little niggas dudes like entertainers. They not killers, because I

457
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: know killers. I come from this, so I look, I

458
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,400
Speaker 3: know these little dudes. It's mascot.

459
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 2: So what's entertaining about glorifying killing our people?

460
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 5: No?

461
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 3: It's it's it's documenting the scenarios that they've quote unquote

462
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: been through a scene happen. So I'm saying that when

463
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 3: I see a rap dude, most rappers, I don't view

464
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 3: them and say, yo, he he was one.

465
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: He was like me.

466
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 3: He was one of the guys that had something going

467
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: on where he's from. I tend to think that this

468
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 3: new cropper rappers maybe, but there was a wave where

469
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 3: I think, like, I'm just looking at rappers like, no,

470
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 3: it's this is entertainment for me in particular, I don't

471
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't digest it that way.

472
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 2: But kids don't have that.

473
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 3: Discernment, thank you, right, And so I understand that, but

474
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: I want to I want to bag up and I.

475
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 2: Want to deal with some particulars.

476
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: Because we talked about the forty, the forty people that

477
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 3: this rapper went in and killed in the studio, I

478
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 3: would say, one, check that. Then you being who you are,

479
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: you'r D one. You got that voice and people respect you.

480
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: Oh watch this, by the way, when this happened, this

481
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: is thirteen years ago, when I'm still local rapper D one,

482
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: and so like the confidence that I exude at this

483
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: point loom Is because.

484
00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 2: I know I'm up. You heard me, I know I'm

485
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: in this game.

486
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 1: My spot solidified all the success and all that and

487
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: that confidence.

488
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 2: Bro, that's something to where I recognize that when you're

489
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: in a.

490
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: Position where you don't have the leverage and you're desperate

491
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: for a cosign from somebody, the last thing you're gonna

492
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: do is be like, hey man, why are you in

493
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,439
Speaker 1: that line?

494
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 2: You know in your wraps.

495
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: So but if you stand on principle you want well

496
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: back then I wasn't the masg But.

497
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 2: And also.

498
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: Do we give rappers that same lead Wade, And when

499
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm saying is they may be conforming in the moment,

500
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: trying to get out of their scenario, right meaning rapping

501
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 3: about something that they may not live or they may

502
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: not understand, trying to get out the scenario in the

503
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: same instance that you were being quiet but you kind

504
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: of knew that this isn't cool what he's doing. But

505
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 3: I gotta suppress that because I ain't. I don't have

506
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: the confidence that I have now, Like Jay can talk

507
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: about reprimanding ramp and reprimand than drug dealing culture because

508
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: it's like he is who he is.

509
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: But coming up in it. I think you would find

510
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: that more difficult. They No, I agree with you. So

511
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: we're on the sad page about this.

512
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: We're on different pages about a lot of stuff, but

513
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: this we're on the same page. That's why the ogs

514
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: and the elders should be held to a different.

515
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: Status than the lay youngins. That's just coming up.

516
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: First of all, their frontal cortex is still forming in

517
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: their brain. They're literally still becoming like complete, you know, mentally.

518
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: So how much do you judge somebody who's still just

519
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: trying to like figure out who they are and figure

520
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: out their identity. They still dealing with trauma in real time,

521
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: they might be dealing with finally making some money for

522
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: the first time in life, as opposed to our Come on, man,

523
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about OG's at this point. That's that's that's

524
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: not something we should be comfortable with. And so I

525
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: have said that we have a lot of what we

526
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: call OG's and our culture who are really DG's disappointing

527
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: grown ups.

528
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: That's what they are, brother, that's what they are, and

529
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: we have to find a way.

530
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: See I'm starting to catch myself as I say things

531
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 1: to where I d if you say this does it

532
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: look like you have an issue with uh specific people,

533
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, Bro, I can't wait to give

534
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: Jim Jones a big old hug. Bro, I can't wait

535
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: like to hug him as as my fellow brother. You

536
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, both children of God. I can't

537
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 1: wait to get Ross and Meek and Joe Budden.

538
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 2: Want to hug you. Why would it because we are

539
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: both children of God. Man. No, but you reprimand me

540
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: in the public. I don't hug I don't reprimand.

541
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 3: But this is business. Well that's what they would argue

542
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: that the want your place to do that.

543
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: So guess what, So if that's something to where it's seen,

544
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: because me, I don't have malicious intentions, Bro, I absolutely don't.

545
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,959
Speaker 1: I gain nothing from saying, yeah, I was able to

546
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: say something about another person on a public platform. I

547
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 1: gain nothing from that. There's a back end to all

548
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: this stuff. That back end. That back end is something

549
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: to where you gotta live with yourself at the end

550
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: of the day. And what I'm ultimately always trying to do,

551
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: Looan is serve God and make God proud. So this

552
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: ain't David. When I'm I'm here right now, you heard me.

553
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 1: You're talking to d One, So David don't have this

554
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: type of platform. D One got this platform. Man, When

555
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: I see artists do two things. Bro, When I see

556
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: artists wholl be on stage performing and they look like

557
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: they're not into it, I'd be like me and that

558
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: person ain't come from the same club, because that's such

559
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: a blessing to have an opportunity to perform your music

560
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: that took you so much to make and mix and

561
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: master and marketing, and now you got people want to

562
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: pay to watch you perform.

563
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 2: You better get them people to show same thing.

564
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: When you can speak on the platform, that's gonna be amplified. Man,

565
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: you gotta say some stuff that people really need to hear.

566
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: And sometimes for me, I put pressure on myself to

567
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: be like d like you gotta you gotta speak some

568
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 1: uncomfortable truths about this culture because if not, the industry

569
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 1: has made it to where. Man, we just gonna have

570
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: y'all singing and dancing right to the grave. You hear me,

571
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: How can we cry when young Dolph Nipsey Hustle take

572
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 1: off die due to murders, but we turn around and

573
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: get in the call after attending the funeral, and press

574
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: play on music that's glorifying that same message that just

575
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: had us crying because that person got to see.

576
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: That's why I think we keep we keep.

577
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: I think we're disagreeing on the glorifying of the message

578
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: because I can't we still haven't identified any real time.

579
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 3: I don't give me something that we can actually definitively

580
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: say that this your favorite little baby, little baby, I

581
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 3: fuck with baby, uh right now, this is a current, right,

582
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 3: So I listen to really just just really baby fuck Uh.

583
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 2: That's really about it for me for real.

584
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 3: You don't listen to D one and I gotta get

585
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: on the come on, I gotta get on D man,

586
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 3: I gotta get on D one. I'm talking about like

587
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a gangster. I'm gonna keep it real

588
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: at all time. So in my in my playlist, it

589
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: may be I know, I got baby in there and

590
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: mostly slow shit because I don't listen to music. Honestly,

591
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 3: I listen to audio books all day long. That's all

592
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: I do.

593
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: Like to get that to get the knowledge right, Why

594
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: a dude, this from this culture didn't grow up in

595
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: hip hop your whole life for you to be in

596
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: a space where you're like, Man, I don't listen to

597
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: the same thing that poured into me for so long,

598
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: but currently I don't listen to it.

599
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: Why not because I'm first I was looking at the

600
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: super Bowl. Now I'm in the super Bowl, so I'm

601
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: in this industry and I don't waste time with being

602
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 3: a part of the crowd. I'm actually on the field,

603
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: So I got a contribute to the game.

604
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Now instead of.

605
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 3: Just taking and listening to the music and being a consumer,

606
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm now pouring into the game instead of the game

607
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 3: pouring into me. Okay, so I got enough from the

608
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: game to be able to now pour into the game.

609
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: So with that being said, we're saying the same thing

610
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: because it's hard for me to listen to a bunch

611
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: of new music, you know what I mean. But we're

612
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: saying the same thing with different mindsets behind it. For me,

613
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: it's because if I feel like I have outgrown the

614
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: artists on.

615
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: A mental level that I enjoy listening to.

616
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: I can still acknowledge your talent, but I can also

617
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: acknowledge like it's not feeding me the way David need to.

618
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: Be fed mentally at this stage of my life, you

619
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

620
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: So with that being said, Bro, I just look at

621
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: it like we got so now I went from being

622
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: a middle school teacher to being a college professor, you know,

623
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: in addition, still a full time rapper. Like just drop

624
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: my eleventh album from the Hood to Harvard, y'all go

625
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: get that out right now, get that. But I'm teaching

626
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: a college course at Toughs University called the Intersection of

627
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: Hip Hop and Social Change. So now I'm teaching students

628
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: about the role they play as consumers because you got

629
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: way more fans than you got rappers in this world,

630
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: and the consumers, if you really want to see something different,

631
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: you have the power to say, we're tired of hearing

632
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: that glorified in our music.

633
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: You know, you know who don't play homosexs even.

634
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: Saying glorified though, what give me some examples of this glorification, bro?

635
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: And see that's what I'm saying. We gotta be specific, bro,

636
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: and the reason and let's get let's and this is

637
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: a double headed come a question.

638
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 2: You know everybody watching this right now and they're like Loan, like.

639
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: We we clearly couldn't with you that there's a I

640
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: agree with you, but I'm trying to connect the message

641
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 3: the messenger and the integrity of the message.

642
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: OK, Because what I'm saying is.

643
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: When you go and call out Meet Meal, Rick Ross

644
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: and these guys, I want to know what they have

645
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: said that lends to your.

646
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: Argument, right, you know?

647
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: Because for me it's like they're not saying smoking on

648
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: such and such, So I don't know if that applies

649
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: to them. I'm not denying that the culture has a

650
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 3: level of that in it and it needs to be addressed.

651
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: That's one hundred percent fact I'm saying it does. I

652
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 3: don't know if it lives in where you are attacking,

653
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: which is the mainstream industry.

654
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if it lives then.

655
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: Well, at this point the conval with me and those

656
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: three brothers, that was a few months ago. I'm honestly

657
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: like tired of people framing that coval as if I

658
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: have a personal issue with any of them brothers, because

659
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: I absolutely don't. And I mean they're from a sincere place.

660
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: If you fix someone's business, do you not understand how

661
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: they can they can be an issue.

662
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: Bro, Me and Jim Jones been texting with each other.

663
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: It's all love it no, But I'm saying shout out

664
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: to Jimmy I'm saying, for future reference, do you understand

665
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,479
Speaker 3: that affecting someone's business is an issue? So?

666
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 2: Oh, do I understand that that's an issue? Of course

667
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 2: you can't.

668
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 3: I don't care how much you you are righteous, you

669
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: can't make that not an issue. If I say, damn,

670
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: hon't just fucking with my business talking about I shouldn't

671
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: be talking about what I'm talking about, like people can

672
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: take it that way. And what I saw Jim Jones

673
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: highly upset when he responded, so it seemed like, damn, bro,

674
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: you don't know what I'm going through, Like how you

675
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 3: gonna just yeah?

676
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: So I feel, well, hopefully this interview, you know what

677
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, because because of because of who's tuning into you,

678
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: which I really respect, and me and you building off camera,

679
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's a blessing from God that we

680
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: that that we're gonna have this type of canvo, because I.

681
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: Don't want my heart to be misconstrued, you know what

682
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: I mean? And I don't. I actually don't think that

683
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: it is misconstrued.

684
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: I know people that I'm one call away from all them,

685
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: and I'm on the line directly with Jim at this point,

686
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: but one call away from them brothers, and I look

687
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: forward to it because I am putting morals over money,

688
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: and anybody that's not putting morals over money, then we

689
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: have become victims to what this industry wants to turn

690
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: us into, which is saying, man, we just gonna get

691
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: them some crumbs, you know, get them some popularity, get

692
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: them some bread, and incentivize them to participate in glorifying

693
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: the lowest level of who they really are. Because it's

694
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: crazy that we don't see the smoke and mirrors that

695
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: this industry does not care about us.

696
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: The industry cares about profits over everything.

697
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: Damn Dash always talks about culture vultures, right, and that

698
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: is spot on, bro, there are real culture vultures. But

699
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: then what do we call it when we are the

700
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: ones at this point, people from outside the culture that's

701
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to take advantage of us.

702
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: But when we're the ones who know what's going on, we.

703
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: See the play, but we still participating in the play

704
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: because it's like, man, it's just a business move, I'm

705
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: just rapping.

706
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: Or it's beneficial behavior, the same way you was quiet

707
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 3: in that studio.

708
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: But what about when you not an unknown local rapper

709
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: that's twenty one years old, no more.

710
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: And when you're a person is up.

711
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: You got millions upon millions upon millions, and you older

712
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: now and you know better. All I'm saying is at

713
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: that point, like we gotta do better. You know in

714
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: real life, brother, in real life, you know that, like

715
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: you get a more severe sentence and punishment if you

716
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: did something intentionally. You know that there's a difference between

717
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: a first degree and second degree murder.

718
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: So if you plotted.

719
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: On this and you knew what you was gonna do,

720
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: and you and you went out there and did that,

721
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: that's way more severe. Then Oh, it just popped off

722
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: in a moment you ain't think it was gonna happen.

723
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: It might have been self defense.

724
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: Whooped wool. We're gonna give you that.

725
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: We might give your masks right. Apply that to the

726
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: rap game. When you know better, at some point you

727
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: gotta do better. But how do you do better? It

728
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: becomes the question.

729
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: And that's what I think we're viewing, Like people do

730
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: have ability to transition, and it takes time. We see

731
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: jay Z, you know, as a case study of someone

732
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: that used to wrap about pure D drug Dylan and

733
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: now he's in a scenario to say, yo own land,

734
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 3: see how the Jews did it, that's how you do it,

735
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: and trying to put those messages in wrap. But that

736
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 3: is a high level skill set. That's not just like

737
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: going in and rapping cat in the hat. That is

738
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: a different skill set to be able to take your trauma,

739
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: extract the lessons from it, not glorify the trauma, but

740
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 3: still speak on the lesson like that. That's a different

741
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 3: kind of skill set that I'm not sure that everyone has.

742
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: Brother, you're not sure that everyone has it.

743
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: Well, if you got the skill set to be able

744
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: to glorify some stuff that you ain't do and lie

745
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: about it, then you should have the skill set to

746
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: be able to glorify the way you actually living. I'm

747
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: asking that.

748
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: We just have integrity and tell the truth. That's it, bro.

749
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 3: What if my truth feels I see murders and somebody

750
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 3: trying to kill me, then if I see them, I'm

751
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: will killed.

752
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: Then we need people to talk about I have talked

753
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: about once again it got to put you on that

754
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: d one. I have talked about my student getting murdered

755
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 1: by another one of my students, Jeremy.

756
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: I have talked about my best friend getting murdered.

757
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 3: I have talked what makes it different when you talk

758
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: about murder and then they talk about.

759
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: Because when I am given commentary on stuff that's going

760
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: on around me, that's different from in first person saying

761
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: that I am gonna catch you here and kill you.

762
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: I'm doing this. This will me and my partners do.

763
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm about to pay a little young one of my

764
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: youngest to come.

765
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: And kill you.

766
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: Da da da. That's different, bro, and kids are not dumb.

767
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: So here's the other thing.

768
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: If we want to play dumb as adults could do

769
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: it and we could tap dance around.

770
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: Here, I'm trying to get you to give me specific

771
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm trying to do the opposite of playing dumb and

772
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 3: say it head on that this this is a song.

773
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: That struck me, that got me check this out.

774
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: Let's do it like this. Let's do it like this.

775
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I asked you your top five. You say, a little baby,

776
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why you ain't put d one. And

777
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: we'll get to that. I'm about to spit for you

778
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: in a second. Maybe maybe I get on that list. Yeah,

779
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: for sure, I give you my top five. This is

780
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: my unadulter I'm not fronting for the cameras.

781
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 3: Your Future is in my top five too, Futures. We'll

782
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: get to Future, because I'm sure you got some things too.

783
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: I was just gonna, you know, I'm about to turn

784
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 2: it all. You like, oh okay, oh really?

785
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: So you're aware of the interview Nicki Minaj did with

786
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: Joe Budden to where she said she was in the

787
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 1: future in the studio with Future and she was mad

788
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: at him because Future looked at her and said, Nikki,

789
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: it's crazy that people think I do all these hard

790
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: drugs and everything just because I be rapping about, you know,

791
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: doing them.

792
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: But in real life, I'm a lightweight. I don't do

793
00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: that stuff.

794
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: And Nikki was like, yo, I'm paraphrasing yo, Like basically,

795
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: that's messed up, bro, and you should be ashamed of

796
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: yourself because a lot of people are thinking that you

797
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: do this and they have started doing drugs because of that.

798
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: You ain't here what Juice World said. Juice World died.

799
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 4: Of well you know how Juice World, Yeah he ain't

800
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 4: get shot overdose?

801
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

802
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: Who he said, inspire him to start doing drugs.

803
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: But here's the let's deal with these selves, and it's different.

804
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: If it's like but if future is like yo, but

805
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm really living like that.

806
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 3: But future, well, let's let's deal with them separately, because again,

807
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: context is important where I come from, and I'm not

808
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: bailing future out by any means, but I want to

809
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: understand and give and just give some commentary as to

810
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: what could be happening in this scenario. All right, when

811
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 3: we deal with Nicki Minaj's number one as a dude

812
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 3: and me and Nicki Minaj are not dating or not

813
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: get married, y'all better not be there. So what I

814
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: look like telling how I'm on all these drugs? If

815
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: I am on them, it's my job to tell her.

816
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: I don't really get out like that like nah them

817
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 3: nigga tripping. I don't really get out like that.

818
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 2: Come on, bro, you gonna tell me that. Niggas ain't

819
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: saying that the women. Come on, bro.

820
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: But but like you said, if they're not dating, and

821
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: then this is my friend, this is my collaborator.

822
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: We're in the studio.

823
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: You want to know my business that I'm strunk out

824
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: on Lord Tabs and shit.

825
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: I ain't telling her that.

826
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: If I'm strunk out on Lean and all list this nigga,

827
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: and I ain't telling her that no.

828
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: I don't get out like it. I really don't get

829
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: out like it. Baby, It ain't really like it, Like

830
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 2: how y'all know it ain't that?

831
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: But why would you not want to tell a person

832
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: on one on one setting when you're.

833
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Telling millions of people in your music that's what you

834
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 2: do well? Because I don't know, that's a good question.

835
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: We go a point for d y'all keepings going at home.

836
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

837
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 3: But but if that's I could say that if you're

838
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: putting it in your music and you don't want to

839
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: because me, that's a good one.

840
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: He starmed me with that one Future.

841
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,479
Speaker 1: I got another one for oh and shot out the future.

842
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: My man, Orlando used to manage Future, and Orlando used

843
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: to manage me. Like one time I went to a

844
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: CALLT show in shreek Port and opened up for Future

845
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: at the concert. We never have built one on one

846
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: But what I'm not finna do, brother, And I hope

847
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: that you'll be on my team when I say this

848
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: is in this dark world where people love I love

849
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: TI song my life your Entertainment. I think that was

850
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: on his Paper Trail album, right, and just that title.

851
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: I love it because I see it now that I'm

852
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: not finna let this world that just simply wants to

853
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: be entertained by who beefing with who? And who got

854
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: locked up today and who got shot. I'm not finna

855
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: let them cast me off as oh, he's the rapper

856
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: hater at all, when I'm a dude who out here

857
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: writing children's books. You heard me, David found his sling

858
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: shot anti bullying hip hop children's book. It's a hip

859
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: hop book, but it's a true story about me being

860
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: a kindergar into getting bullied in New Orleans. How I

861
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: overcame that by tapping into my god giving gifts.

862
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: Here's a question if Meek Mill went on an interview

863
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: tomorrow and said, d One, I know you got your

864
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: children's book, but we can do better. Bro, like you

865
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: rapping this shit, you shouldn't even be doing the rap thing.

866
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: That's the devil playground. We can do better. Spend all

867
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: your time on read writing books, spend all your time

868
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: in those schools, in those communities.

869
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 2: Get out of this club.

870
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 3: It's like a nigga in the club with the Bible. Right,

871
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: you respect that, and you got a lot of respect

872
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: for that. But brother, it might be the wrong place

873
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 3: to be in here, that's exactly where I.

874
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 2: Need to be.

875
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 5: Man.

876
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: Why because in Mark chapter two, verse thirteen, it says

877
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: Jesus caused Levi aka Matthew. Then Jesus went out to

878
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: the lake show again you heard me, and he taught

879
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: the crowds that were coming to him. As he walked along,

880
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: he saw Levi, the son of our Fast, sitting at

881
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: his tax collector's booth.

882
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: Follow me and be my disciple, That's.

883
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: What he told Levi, Jesus said to him, So Levi

884
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: got up and follow him. Later, Levi invited Jesus and

885
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: his disciples to his home as dinner guests, along with

886
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: book who tax collectors and other disreputable sinners aka what

887
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: you might think is going on in the club. Right.

888
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: There were many people of this kind amongst jesus followers.

889
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: But when the teachers of religious laws saw.

890
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: Who the Pharisees were, and they saw him eating with

891
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: tax collectors and other sinners, that asked his disciples, why

892
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: does he eat with such scum and people like that?

893
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: When Jesus heard this, he told them healthy people don't

894
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: need a doctor.

895
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 2: Lone sick people do I have come to call?

896
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: Not those who think they are righteous, but those who

897
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: know they are sinners. That's why I need to be

898
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: in the club with it. That's why I need to

899
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: be a rapt.

900
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: But that's Jesus. You ain't Jesus, man.

901
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: That's who I'm striving to be. Like, though, what you

902
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: think this bracelets down for what Jesus do?

903
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wanna, we wanna. We do want to adopt

904
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: the teachings and things like that. But to put d

905
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 3: One in that place is a stretch for me.

906
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: Okay, why because you knowing, like, boy, you just d One?

907
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: You just the dude? Who I just right now? What

908
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 2: do you say? Do we all not have the spirit

909
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: of God in um? Yes?

910
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: So with that being said, we are supposed to be

911
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: working to let the spirit of God overtake and outrestle

912
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: the spirit of the world.

913
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: But you know, this is what this is what becomes

914
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: I won't say unfair, but this is what becomes interesting

915
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: when someone has to go against you.

916
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: What would you say to people who say you weaponize

917
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: the word, that I weaponize the word.

918
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: It'll be different if I was like, I'm not going

919
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: to associate with people because I feel like I'm better

920
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: than them. Man, I got the opposite happening to me. Luin,

921
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: I got the church asking me why I'm doing your show?

922
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: You heard me, So anybody that's sound weaponizing the word

923
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: you just did a Wikipedia surge. You clearly don't know

924
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: nothing about d One being on tour with Young Drow

925
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: and Killer Mike d One, collaborating with Starledo, with Juvenile,

926
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: with man In Fresh, with Big Krit with Loupe Fiasco,

927
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: and got the other Christians. You heard me looking at

928
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: me like.

929
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Man, what he doing?

930
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: He trying to fit in or he just trying to

931
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is like God, man, I shouldn't

932
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: be doing nothing else with my life except what I'm

933
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: doing right now because I see a light that I have.

934
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I see an industry where there's so much potential. But

935
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: there's also a lot of darkness in the industry, not

936
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: because we dark people, but because the industry in heroingly

937
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: is dark.

938
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: Man, a dude, try to give me to do it.

939
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: I said this in the interview. Do some homosexual stuff

940
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: before to be my manager? What?

941
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, But once again, this when I'm a local

942
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 1: dude that's begging for somebody to put me on, not

943
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: realizing that, Man, I go through God.

944
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 2: I don't go through gatekeepers. So that's what I mean.

945
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 3: So clearly you were in a position where you you,

946
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 3: I won't.

947
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: Say desperate, but you want it in yeah, close to

948
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 2: being what I gotta do. Yeah.

949
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: So so that's why you would get pushed back from

950
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: someone like a Joe Budden that'll say yo, seem like

951
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: he's clout chasing.

952
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: And that's the point where I'm like, uh, and once again, Lord,

953
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: help me, bro, help me, because you you do this, like,

954
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: are we in the space nowadays to where can you

955
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: say somebody's name in an interview without it all of.

956
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: A sudden seeming like, well, since you said this person name,

957
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: that means that you got an issue with them. I can't.

958
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say what I want to say, and I

959
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: will go with that because what happens is you can't

960
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 3: control in and that let them think what they want.

961
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: I stay firm and think about what I'm saying. I

962
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: give it to you and I leave it. That's a bad.

963
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: That's a bad.

964
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: And I'm just saying that because it's ugly out there though, yeah, boy,

965
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: it is ugly.

966
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 5: Bro.

967
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,479
Speaker 1: So since you brought up Joe Budden's name once again,

968
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I got to clarify everything and say

969
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: just for the record.

970
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 3: And I won't do that, but I respect you doing

971
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: that because people, I know, when someone sees this clip

972
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: or interview, don't you don't want it to be perceived

973
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: that way. But what I would tell you is, if

974
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 3: they're coming with that notion, nothing you can say can

975
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: change that notion. Okay, defending yourself just by responding or

976
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: defending yourself places you in that uncomfortable situation.

977
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir, Thank you. I needed that.

978
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: I needed to hear that from you, so now I

979
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying this. When Joe Budden first brought my

980
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: name up on his podcast, they called me a podcaster

981
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 1: from New Orleans, right, who's clout chasing and trying to

982
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: get on by naming other rappers. That's no journalistic integrity.

983
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: That is like, man, you just exposed yourself. You heard me,

984
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: No journalistic integrity to see it. This man got eleven

985
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: albums out. This man is toured with and performed with

986
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: people who you call some of the goats of the

987
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: rap game. He got them on his songs. You know

988
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, go on ball football with them on

989
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: his songs. Like not seeing this that all these people

990
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: around you who you know in the industry, these people

991
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: know me, not seeing that I'm actually a fan of

992
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: you when you was rapping. But to try to cast

993
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: it off as this is a cloud chaser because I

994
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: ain't heard of him and he named other people's name

995
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: not realizing, Bro, I just named.

996
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: Way bigger people before my first song was called.

997
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: Does that make his argument that that make you've been

998
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: that you've been naming people.

999
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: No, it makes his argument invalid to say that I

1000
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: am simply cloud chasing to not know. Man, this dude

1001
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 1: got a well documented story of being a middle school teacher.

1002
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: That's a real journey. He's on a real journey.

1003
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 3: But you can throw cloud chasing into the journey like

1004
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 3: I can't. I'm not gonna act like that.

1005
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 2: You can. You can't throw clouds that it can't be

1006
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 2: a part of it. Yeah, it can be a part.

1007
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: So it's a difference between the being a part of

1008
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: your journey and being indicative of your character.

1009
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 2: That's all y'all got to.

1010
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: Say about me, Man, When you bring me up at like,

1011
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,799
Speaker 1: like seriously, when everybody on your show around you, and

1012
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: I love that shout out to you ish, shout out

1013
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: to Melissa, shout out to everybody who was like, nah,

1014
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 1: this ain't cloud see this happens with.

1015
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: Them right when up on Joe Budden.

1016
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 3: I think if you're not from up, something's weird going

1017
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: on where they down't play anybody, Like I came in

1018
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: help me clean a million dollars up soon as I

1019
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 3: came in the game, and so when they first mentioned me,

1020
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, some dude that nobody knows.

1021
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: It's like, did y'all y'all do know who I am doing?

1022
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 2: Oh they talked about you.

1023
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, y'all, y'all cannot have did any research

1024
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: to say that I'm just some guy. I mean this

1025
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: was before now they say my name or whatever, But

1026
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: there was a time where they just down play anybody

1027
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: but them, And that's a weird energy for me. Men

1028
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: deal with information, not emotion, and that's clearly emotional because

1029
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: you don't know who someone is to say that a

1030
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: nobody or they're a podcast trying to get on. I

1031
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: don't really appreciate that.

1032
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think the point I was making ultimately

1033
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: with that was when we see what's going on, we

1034
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves the consumer.

1035
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 2: Oh back to my college. Guess no, no, how did

1036
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: you and Joe get into it? That's what you was

1037
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: telling me.

1038
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 3: He brought my name up on Oh About the About

1039
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: the the Jim Jones meet me up.

1040
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he brought my name up on this podcast.

1041
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: So then he brought my name up, and with that

1042
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: being said, I simply responded, and I responded.

1043
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Once I responded, Bro, I got hundreds of thousands.

1044
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: Of fans all over this country brought Ben touring for

1045
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: the last fourteen years.

1046
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1047
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: Like, So when I do a public post responding to

1048
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: to how he tried to reference me and cast me

1049
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: down as just he just some random little cloud chasing dude,

1050
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: my fans went in and that and oh and and

1051
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 1: that and that and that and that tickled him where

1052
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: he ain't like to be tickled. That that that got him.

1053
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: So now bring my name up again, episode number two.

1054
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 2: Bring it up and.

1055
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: Get all of your fans out of my comments, and

1056
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: your Christian rap fans and and your Christian get him

1057
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: out of my my comments, your Christian.

1058
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: Army, this and and and all.

1059
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: You're mad, Oh, it's like, why you so bothering my brother?

1060
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: Like and then his people on the show was like, Joe,

1061
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: you know you brought D One's name up, right, Like

1062
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: D One isn't even talking to you, right, I don't care.

1063
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't care, it doesn't matter. Get him away from.

1064
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 3: Me, cool, Yeah, he plays you with this. I don't

1065
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 3: want nothing to do with this, like little bitty boy type.

1066
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1067
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: And he's trying to get on by saying by saying

1068
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: my name now he throwing.

1069
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 2: Me into the mix. I'm gonna keep it humble right now.

1070
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it humble on a lot of levels,

1071
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: on a lot of levels where yeah.

1072
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep it humble.

1073
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: With that being said, I responded again, because what's not

1074
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 1: gonna happen is I'm not gonna get bullied by someone

1075
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: who feels like, well, I have a bigger platform than you.

1076
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: I am just going to talk down on you. Man.

1077
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: I literally got a book that's about not getting bullied

1078
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: and how to overcome it, right, And I wrote this

1079
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: for kids. This is a children's book, bro, just teaching

1080
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 1: them how to interact with one another, even though they

1081
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: may have differences. Me and this dude on the cover

1082
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: who used to bully me, man all these years, later.

1083
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: We're best friends, Bro, We're best friends.

1084
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: So that's why I'm looking forward to dog.

1085
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hug Joe, butten, Bro, I can't

1086
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 1: wait to dap him off and tell him, Broke, my

1087
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: favorite song from you is follow my.

1088
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 3: Lead and and that why do you want to hug

1089
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: these dudes? Because Bro, teach me this? Because I don't

1090
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 3: have this. I don't have this.

1091
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for your humility, because you got

1092
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: some life experiences I don't have, right, and I got

1093
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: a worldview and probably some experiences you don't have. So

1094
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: because I'm not striving to be like my favorite rapper

1095
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: or be like who got the most money in the culture,

1096
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm striving to be like Jesus Christ. Because of that,

1097
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm looking at a man who watched them sit here

1098
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: and lie on him and crucify him and hang him

1099
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: on the cross. And when he hanging loan, he said,

1100
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.

1101
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: Man.

1102
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 2: I got goosebumps right now saying that. Bro.

1103
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: That's the type of example to where in the world.

1104
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: It cause us to pray for and love our enemies.

1105
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: It caused us to help those in need. It caused

1106
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: us to turn the other cheek. And turning the other

1107
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: cheek don't mean that you ain't got nothing to say,

1108
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1109
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: But turning the other cheek is just like, Man, if I'm.

1110
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 1: Asking for forgiveness from God constantly, then who am I

1111
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: to tell somebody that I can't forgive them? So when

1112
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: I see things in the culture this contrary to the

1113
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: kingdom culture, I'm just like which one I'm choosing, Kingdom

1114
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: culture or rap culture.

1115
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: Man, I love rap culture, but I gotta roll with this.

1116
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: So that's why amidst all this, I have seen myself

1117
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 1: as a symbol for how other people can handle stuff

1118
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: in a way where it's like, you're not gonna bully me,

1119
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm not fitting the back down, but I'm gonna show

1120
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: you all how we can come full circle to where

1121
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: I do want adapt your button off and sit down here.

1122
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh and at one time, you know, he thought this

1123
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: is all a ploy so this dude could get on

1124
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: my show or whatever. Man, I ain't gotta come on

1125
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: your show, whackle Flocker. You heard me shout out to

1126
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: Wyco my brother whacker Flacker. Wacker Flocker put an Instagram

1127
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: post up and it was like, Joe, you're tripping at

1128
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: this point, like you need to just bring d on

1129
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: the show and y'all need to talk it out.

1130
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: Da da da, and like like, but.

1131
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 3: See that's what that's That's when he and I'm gonna

1132
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 3: be honest. When he hear you say that, right, that's

1133
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 3: when I say fuck. Because when I went on breathing

1134
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 3: it this and said what I said about academics, Andrew

1135
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: Show said, Man, can I put you on the phone

1136
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 3: with that? Can I get you guys in a room?

1137
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 3: Can I get you guys to talk? Charlemagne is my brother.

1138
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 3: I can get Charlemagne to get him somewhere if I

1139
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: needed him right Like they.

1140
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: Was like, yo, man, can we get y'all in the room?

1141
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 2: Like no, it's what for what? You said? No for what?

1142
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: Because you're a street dude. Yeah.

1143
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: And then the ideologies, Bro, it's just like, lo, I

1144
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: can I'm busy saving lives of dudes that they like

1145
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: my way of thinking. I don't have time to try

1146
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 3: to wrestle with a grown man to make him think different.

1147
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 3: I'll put some game next to the lame shit they're doing,

1148
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: right and keep it moving.

1149
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: So what I would say to you is that. What

1150
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 2: do you say to people who say D One is.

1151
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: Doing a lot of self serving things, Because if you

1152
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 3: have an issue with what the rap culture is doing,

1153
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: give the solution to the rap culture, not to the individuals,

1154
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 3: like I need to meet with meet or I need

1155
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 3: to meet with Ross, or I need to meet with Joe,

1156
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: because when I hear when I think Joe, here's that part,

1157
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 3: that's what says clout chasing him when it's like Yo,

1158
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: Joe suther Sutter, But we should just talk it out

1159
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 3: or I can't wait to see them, gentlemen, and for

1160
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 3: us to have a dinner, because that's what you said

1161
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 3: at the end of.

1162
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 2: That, is that like I would love to sit down

1163
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: with y'all.

1164
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: For what bro because communication is the key to you're

1165
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: communicating you in public, So hey, listen.

1166
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: If I say listen, they the building.

1167
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: Down there on fire, like instead of stopping and getting

1168
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,280
Speaker 3: some water, telling them, sending the ambulance down to somebody dead,

1169
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: or sending resources or sending a playing of action, you know,

1170
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 3: marching orders.

1171
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't want to say, yo, send.

1172
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 3: Them people to come talk to me, because talking to

1173
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: me does what.

1174
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: For those kids that's still listening to that music.

1175
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: It does a lot when I can shift your mindset

1176
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: because of a conversation. And I'm not talking about me

1177
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: shifting the artist's mindset. I'm talking about as.

1178
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: A human being. Like, neither one of us is gonna be.

1179
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: The same after this kind of right, because now our

1180
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: textures have overlapped. You know what I'm saying, Whether it

1181
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 1: be big or small, there's gonna be a difference because

1182
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: of what we've been exposed to.

1183
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: So my thing is like, when we relying upon.

1184
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: Man, well, this is another person, and because our past

1185
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: ain't naturally cross, then we just not because we're on

1186
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: two different types of time.

1187
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: Maybe we're just not supposed to ever communicate.

1188
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: It's like, now, man, you know what this culture suffer

1189
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: from the most, which is a yes man. It's suffered

1190
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 1: from people that's around somebody that's thinking, I don't agree

1191
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: with what this person doing, but they're.

1192
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: Paying me beneficial behavior.

1193
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: Beneficial behavior, and who better to be able to talk

1194
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: than two people who don't need each other.

1195
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 2: That's why this kind ofvo is doing what it's doing

1196
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: right now. You a boss without me? You heard me,

1197
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm a man without you. You feel me when we.

1198
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: Come together and we're like, oh, yeah, we have no Like,

1199
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't have to agree with everything.

1200
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but if you affect my business, we can't do

1201
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: this right if you come out on the platform and

1202
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: say something about me that deters any one person from

1203
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 3: viewing my stuff or looking at it a way that

1204
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: severs our relationship because we're in a business.

1205
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: And I think that's a street mentality. I think that

1206
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: I think that a kingdom mentality is you know what

1207
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: it took for this to happen, to maybe open my

1208
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: eyes up to something that I wouldn't have received.

1209
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: But you don't understand certain things. Have you ever sold drugs? No? Yeah,

1210
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: yeah I sold. I mean like really, yeah, I sold drugs.

1211
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: I'm a rapper. So I get to lie like.

1212
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: No, no, so I'm talking about see that's what I'm saying. Like, so,

1213
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 3: have you been close enough to drug selling?

1214
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: No, I've been close enough to drugs selling, brother, like

1215
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: in real like stop trolling.

1216
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: No, I'm not true.

1217
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know where you're Uh yeah, my college

1218
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: roommates started selling drugs feel when we first.

1219
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: Got to l s U. And yeah, how close.

1220
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 3: Have you would you say you've been to street, to

1221
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 3: the streets, to the streets.

1222
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: Not to teaching the kids.

1223
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm talking about you yourself waking up in the morning

1224
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: like I'm doing, maybe going to a trap house or

1225
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: I'm going to I live in the trap house.

1226
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 2: I live in the ghetto, So I live in the Goose.

1227
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 2: You hear me. I'm from the Goose in New Orleans.

1228
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: That's a part of the East. You hear me.

1229
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: Anybody who knows and understands New Orleans East currently currently

1230
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: is a war zone. But unfortunately, even when I was

1231
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: growing up, it was like, oh, that's mister Lloyd house

1232
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: across the street and right next door to it. That's

1233
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: a well known that's before it was even called the

1234
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: trap ins who wasn't called it the trap That's a crackhouse.

1235
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: R that's well known. And I'm plugged in New Orleans too.

1236
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like all this

1237
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: this is well known, So me being in proximity to

1238
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: this stuff, I didn't grow up in no gated community.

1239
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 2: Man, you feel me. Yeah, But if you ain't hustled,

1240
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: it's a difference.

1241
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: You don't really know the texture of what a person's

1242
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 3: been through, right, Like, if you ain't had to feed

1243
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 3: joke you said you had great parents, right, if you

1244
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 3: ain't had to go outdoors and say, we ain't really

1245
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 3: ding five days And the big homing right there, got

1246
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: a pack, and I don't know what to do.

1247
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: I don't know that they hiring up.

1248
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 3: Y'all I gotta do is go file an application or

1249
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 3: the big homing willing to give me something.

1250
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm hustling. Now.

1251
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: I'm in the car with him every day by way

1252
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 3: of feeding my family, not because I want to ride

1253
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 3: and do dumb shit. But the big homie got a pack.

1254
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 3: He might be into some beef. But I end up

1255
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: in the car because mama them ain't eight.

1256
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 2: In four days.

1257
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: This turns into a lifestyle. Now, I pick up some

1258
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: of the habits, right. So I'm saying that sometimes the

1259
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: environment projects behaviors on you. Absolutely, And so when these

1260
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 3: rappers are talking like some of these things, I take

1261
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: it to be.

1262
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: Some of that. Yeah, I do, tool, Bro, I do too.

1263
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: And I want to know how much you understand of

1264
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 3: it to say that it's glorification or narration.

1265
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I understand it to the fullest, Bro, I understand it.

1266
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: I've seen it from all angles, from the people who

1267
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: had no other eyes.

1268
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: So tell me because I'm big time dope boy in

1269
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: this town. Talk to me about the drug game and

1270
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: your understanding so I can know for me and the

1271
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 3: trap niggas that's looking to say. When d one talk

1272
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: to you rap niggas, pay attention because he ain't talking

1273
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 3: like a dude that don't know what it's like to

1274
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: my main eight to have to feed their family. They

1275
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 3: had to shut the store with somebody that killed they

1276
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 3: brother and had a kind of level head that dunck

1277
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: and dodge all day. Like just all of this beef

1278
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: problems and turn more that you go through as you

1279
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 3: try to make money, That's what I'm saying.

1280
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: Or you're describing my whole upbringing and you're talking to

1281
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: the dude that was equivalent to like how Kendrick said,

1282
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: good Kid, Mad City. I was the dude who is

1283
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: like you growing up around all this and you literally

1284
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: see the fruit of that lifestyle in what happened to

1285
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: your best friend and what route he took with his life.

1286
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 1: What happened to a lot of the dudes you play

1287
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: that Digby Pok with, You heard me play parkball with?

1288
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: What happened to a lot of these people who just

1289
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: grew up on your same block. But how did it

1290
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: turn out different from you? So I recognized that I

1291
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: was an anomaly from early on. Like, dang, this is

1292
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 1: crazy to me that I gotta go to school thirty

1293
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: minutes away from my crib, all the way to the

1294
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: other side of the town. I'm not going to the

1295
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: school there's two blocks from my house and three blocks

1296
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: from my house because my parents recognize.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna camp out. Even that privilege, that's privilege I recognized.

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00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying.

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00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: That's even just that right provides a disconnect. But but

1300
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 3: even that is privileged to be able for your mother

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01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 3: and father to choose.

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01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: Bro, where I grew up at. You don't even got that.

1303
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: They don't even got a call the mother.

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01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: They ain't had a car in generations. So everybody's walking

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01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 3: to school. You don't have a choice to say, Yo, man, damn,

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01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: it's better over there, So go over there. Like and

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01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, I've been to the You ain't been

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01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 3: to the real hood, Bro, Who you tripping?

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01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 2: You ain't been to the real hood. You ain't, bro,

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01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: You have not been to the real hood. Everything you're

1311
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: talking about Africa and everything you're describing Bro. You talking

1312
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: about this bro at thirteen years old, I went to Ghana.

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01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: I knew you was telling like that. Yeah you ain't

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01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 2: do that though, No, not at thirteen.

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: So because you ain't do that, you ain't see what

1316
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: I seen too where I'm thinking, but you.

1317
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 2: Want because the lights was off some days. You heard

1318
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: me in my crib.

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01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: The lights was off some day sometime we had to

1320
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,959
Speaker 1: eat man, they sandwiches, all that type of stuff.

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01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: You heard me, Yeah, yeah, yeah, cool.

1322
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: We ain't got it or I can't get the jabbols

1323
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 1: like all my friends like that.

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01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 2: That all right, that's lightweight shit.

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 3: That ain't the environment that's birthing these rappers. And that

1326
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: mentality that you that you condemned.

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: But that mentality, bro, that's something to where I don't

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: see worse and I don't seeing people with a better mentality.

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 2: And it's because, yeah, that mentality is true.

1330
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 1: Wasn't something that was glorified or put on a pedestal. Nowadays,

1331
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: hip hop culture has made it to where as a

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01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 1: black person, I teach students in class who are like

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01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: Professor d One, I'm a black person. I'm not really

1334
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: from the trenches, but I listen to a lot of

1335
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: that music because I don't feel like i'm real quote unquote.

1336
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a black car to get revoked

1337
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: if I'm not at least listening to or proximity to

1338
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: this culture of drugs, violence and all this type of behavior.

1339
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: And that's crazy that that has become like this whole

1340
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: concept of black car to revoked, bro and black car,

1341
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: especially for some of that dumb shit.

1342
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying, and I want you.

1343
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 3: To know too, and people watching for whatever reason if

1344
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: they're new here. I'm also someone that's critical rappers, right,

1345
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 3: but from a different perspective. I tell them to be

1346
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 3: more resourceful, be more forthcoming with information, be more interested

1347
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: in information because I believe rappers and this is my

1348
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 3: gripe with them, and I don't have any interest to rap.

1349
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: Right.

1350
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 3: I can probably go get a deal right now with Pete,

1351
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 3: that's my brother. I can probably say, y'all want to

1352
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 3: put an album out, Coach k Inghamber, give me a

1353
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: deal today, baby, my brother. I can probably right, but

1354
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 3: I don't fuck with rap. I don't want to rap,

1355
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 3: so I have no incentive on speaking of these things, right.

1356
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 3: I tell them a lot of rappers that spend their

1357
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: entire career chasing the.

1358
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 2: Lifestyle and not make no money.

1359
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 3: So I want them to be in the moment, strike

1360
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 3: while the iron is hot, put more irons in the fire,

1361
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 3: get information from the label when they're hot, maybe even

1362
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 3: threatening the stoppage of work if the contracts ain't right, Like.

1363
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: Get what you can really get from it.

1364
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 3: Don't look back in fifteen years and say they took

1365
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 3: all my money. Also want the guys around the rappers

1366
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 3: to be more resourceful, because I see the culture has

1367
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: a market for people that's hustling pictures. And when I

1368
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: say pictures, it's like I just run into d one,

1369
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 3: take a picture running the tea. I take a picture

1370
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 3: running it, and I got a bunch of pictures on Instagram,

1371
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 3: and actually are hustling off that, like getting selling courses

1372
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 3: whatever they're doing, but making money.

1373
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: And cachet from that.

1374
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 3: So I want the friends around rap dudes to not

1375
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: be so cool to where they're not resourceful to the operation.

1376
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 2: Right, I'm picking that shit like that, stay away from

1377
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: the streets. Right. But you know, Booster says.

1378
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 1: Something dope in the interview in regards to man if

1379
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna be around me add to the opportunities that

1380
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: I'm already getting.

1381
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 2: Much of this stuff is incoming, it's already coming my way.

1382
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna be around me, and now you're

1383
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: an extra expense, it'll help if you're adding value, because

1384
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: if not, you just taking off of my plate that

1385
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: was already gonna be.

1386
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: And the rappers, what I tend to find is because

1387
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 3: coming from my environment, That's what I'm saying, I give

1388
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: leeway to it so much trauma, bro, It's so much.

1389
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: Like now you see me by myself.

1390
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 3: It's because I'm a cold, hard drug dealer, right And

1391
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 3: I hate to say that. My mother hates to hear

1392
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 3: me say that now because I'm successful, but I had

1393
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: to tell my mama. I'm leaving the light on for

1394
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: them dudes behind me. I'm just letting them know you

1395
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: can escape that I'm.

1396
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 2: Leaving the light on.

1397
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: I'm leaving March in orders to say you don't got

1398
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: to keep hustling, bro, because I was there too, thinking

1399
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 3: what do you do with the money. I literally got

1400
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: the money, but what do I do right now? I'm

1401
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 3: saying that you see me right here today, every rap dude,

1402
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 3: everyone in the industry right now tell you every time

1403
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: I saw lone Egal by myself, and I know Loan

1404
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: got six seven figure deals everywhere, right because I'm dealing

1405
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 3: with the trauma, and I'm a digger to read books

1406
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: all day. All day, I listen to books, and I

1407
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 3: can't shake it to have six or seven people around

1408
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: me helping me say it. I don't got no business

1409
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 3: in here sweating, putting the care I'm running the light

1410
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 3: and no, I don't got no business doing that.

1411
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: But that's my trauma still on my back. You dig.

1412
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: And so these rap guys are dealing with the same

1413
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: level or if not worse, because they dealing with a

1414
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 3: lot of money. So if they're in my opinion, a

1415
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 3: lot of times, I think they're the mascot of the team.

1416
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 3: Right again, some people will try to call them fake

1417
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: and act like they ain't in the streets at all.

1418
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say that they're the mascot of the team,

1419
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 3: meaning they're not in the game, but they're.

1420
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 2: Close enough to it to see.

1421
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: Who how to score, how to dunk.

1422
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 2: They seeing what's going on.

1423
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: And so those guys right there don't they don't have

1424
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 3: the direction or the leadership of the guys on the court.

1425
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 3: This is why I was upset with academics or not upset.

1426
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,080
Speaker 3: This is why I had the stuff to say about

1427
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 3: academicists because I believe with commentary, the same way I'm

1428
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 3: sure you do, you can push people and change people's direction.

1429
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 3: So I would believe that some of the commentary and

1430
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: the drama farming coming from our culture pushes some of

1431
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 3: these mascots on the court.

1432
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 2: And then they do something like snitch. There you go,

1433
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 2: and then you say, well, damn, he don't know not

1434
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: to snitch because he ain't. He ain't really a part

1435
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 2: of the coach.

1436
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: Either they snitch or they catch a case that they

1437
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: wasn't prepared. They wasn't prepared to catch that, but they

1438
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: felt like they had to live up to it.

1439
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what I'm saying, absolutely bro.

1440
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to help get us off the

1441
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: plantation man, and the plantation looks like us being so

1442
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: desperate for validation that we sit here and say our

1443
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: form of communication, which is rapping and consuming rap, is

1444
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: something that's going to lead to our degradation.

1445
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: You feel me, tell me, tell me, tell me your

1446
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,479
Speaker 3: because because you went through a level of desperation. Yeah,

1447
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 3: tell me, what makes yours different than what the culture

1448
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 3: is in right now.

1449
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: Thanks for watching this clip from It's Up There podcast.

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01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: To see the rest of the interview, click one of

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