1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,679 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett now live in Ohio on a 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm proud of that football team. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: We were not perfect, wasn't pretty, but we fought. We 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 3: had heard about it. Is that a little fuels to 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: the fire. 9 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 4: Out of the gun. On third and eight, Lawrence from 10 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 4: the seventeen. 11 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 5: They got to get to the Browns nine, the artist 12 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 5: Johnson in the backfield, the snap, Here comes. 13 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 4: The pressure, Here comes Miles. He got them. Miles Garrett 14 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: takes down Trevor Lawrence. 15 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: That's the job, and that's part of the NFL. The 16 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 3: job is tould be one to know each and every week. 17 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 3: So if we can be one to know each and 18 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 3: every week, then you know that mentality. You won't focus 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: on last week. 20 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 4: Second and goal. Now Brown's habit on the one. 21 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 5: Nick Harris is now gonna line up wide to the 22 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 5: right and Deshaun's gonna go empty here three to the left, 23 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 5: Deshaun on the keeper, Watson towards the end zone. Touchdown 24 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 5: sixteen play much down drive to open up this game 25 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 5: for the brown. 26 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 6: We need that kind of cushion us being on the 27 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 6: work together, rush together light that you know, him him 28 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 6: working off of me, me going, me going high, and 29 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 6: him coming. I don't need to make that play us 30 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 6: exactly how we draw it up. Man, you know he's 31 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 6: gonna make many more of those plays. 32 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 5: Here's the snap back to throw under pressure, Alex Wright's 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: got him and throws him out of the back of 34 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 5: the end zone. 35 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: Safety. How about that offense, that defense that special. 36 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 5: From the thirty three eight seconds. Here's the snap Lawrence 37 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 5: under pressure, flush out to the right, Lawrence off his 38 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 5: back foot, lofting put corn of the end zone, knocked 39 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: away incomplete, no time, no time, It's over. Kevin Stefanski 40 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: runs the midfield and the Browns will survive. 41 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was one I won't forget. 42 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bowe Bishop and Nathan Segura. 43 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 7: Let's do it live on a victory Monday edition of 44 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 7: the program. Merely bow the great ze and a luminary 45 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 7: right out of the gates the walk off sack Alex 46 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 7: right in studio with us. 47 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: How that? I mean? 48 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 7: First, let's let's not bury the lead here to be 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 7: in the position you're in up three and to be 50 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 7: able to make that play coming off of Cory's punt, 51 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 7: What did that mean to you? What was the sense 52 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 7: of urgency for the defense there? 53 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 8: I mean, we have a standard and it's not like 54 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 8: no other Like we have a standard that we just 55 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 8: gotta uh get off the field, whether that's first down, 56 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 8: second down, third down, you know, whatever the opportunity to resent. 57 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 8: So back then you just gotta it's just a who 58 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 8: who's gonna make the play? Mentality, like who's gonna be? 59 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 8: It's gotta be one of us. Somebody hasn't make the play, 60 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 8: either making the player or you're watching it be made. 61 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 8: So you just gotta take that in an initiative of 62 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 8: you know, when we step on the field. 63 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 9: On that play, you're lined up on the inside. They 64 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 9: had singles against everybody except you. You were the only 65 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 9: person double teamed on that play. How did you kind 66 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 9: of split that double team? They had the center and 67 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 9: the left guard work and Anya get right through there 68 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 9: and make that play. 69 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 8: I mean, like I told him on the sideline, I 70 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 8: was like I thought, I hit a you know, inside 71 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 8: move went outside. But when you practice something so much, 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 8: it just comes so natural. So like you know watching 73 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 8: it on the replay and stuff like that. You know, 74 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 8: I hit the move and I seen the center. He 75 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 8: tried to engage on me, but it was just like 76 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 8: it was already too late and it's like I'll beat 77 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 8: you too. So it's once I once I seen Trevor 78 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 8: try to scoot out the part I said, it was 79 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 8: raps like it, but it's just the fact like like 80 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 8: it was a want to like the mentality, like myselt 81 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 8: was like, oh, this is the play that gotta be made. 82 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 8: So I mean when that happened, it was just like 83 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 8: the adrenaline came and everybody like just it was just 84 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 8: a rush like and true too, like I told everybody 85 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 8: that was my very first like game winner, like just 86 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 8: like a walk off. But I mean it just came 87 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 8: with the mindset just like you gotta want it better 88 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 8: than the next person. If it take two, then oh 89 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 8: will like I'm still gonna get back there. 90 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 7: I was just gonna ask you that was and you 91 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 7: said it was the first time that's ever. I mean, 92 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 7: it's rare to get one as a defensive player. They 93 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 7: get a couple of plays obviously, and it gets a 94 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 7: little more anxious than we need it to be obviously, 95 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 7: but because of that, it's a five point not a three. 96 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 7: They got to get a touchdown, not a field goal. 97 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 7: In a sense, it was and that so the first 98 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 7: that's the first one of those you've ever had, Like 99 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 7: all the. 100 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: Way back, Yeah, even bet high school. 101 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I was curious. 102 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, even Bet high school. I thought about it too 103 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: at the game, was like, oh, high school. 104 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: You probably didn't play enough close games in high school. 105 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 8: Nah, noah, college I could have, but we're not gonna 106 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 8: get into that. That that still hurts to this day. 107 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 8: But now it is my first one, my first one timely. 108 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 9: So I don't know how many people out there are 109 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 9: aware of this, but if you go back to last season, 110 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 9: over the last six games that you've played in the 111 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 9: regular season, you have five sacks. In fact, that's more 112 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 9: than anybody else on the Cleveland Browns during that span, 113 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 9: which is you could probably take that into your room 114 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 9: and talk to the bets about that. 115 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: A little bit if you'd like what's clicked for you? 116 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 9: You know, you come from a smaller school, right UAB 117 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 9: in a different style defense, and it felt like in 118 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 9: the middle of that last season and it really just 119 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 9: clicked and you saw we saw what you did at 120 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 9: the end of last year and then now what you've 121 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 9: continued into the start of this year. 122 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 3: Man, it's confidence. 123 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 8: Man, you gotta have for for you to be in 124 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 8: the NFL, you gotta have confidence. And if you don't 125 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 8: have confidence, then why are you here? You know what 126 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 8: I'm s Yeah, but uh, you know, we just I 127 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 8: was like, just like everybody else, you like, we don't 128 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 8: really like to talk about last year because you know, 129 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 8: that was it was fun and all, but you know, 130 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 8: we just got to be more focused on But now 131 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 8: we don't focus on the future either, you know, we 132 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 8: just and that was one thing that I took in perspective, 133 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 8: you know, even dating back to last year with me mentally, 134 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 8: was just uh, one practice at a time and you 135 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 8: boil it down like dots. You got one practice, then 136 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 8: one period at a time, then one player at a time, 137 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 8: and then you know, taking your stuff into indie, you know, 138 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 8: and then you just focus on taking what you did 139 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 8: in practice into the game. And that's staying at the practice, 140 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 8: like staying and working, focusing on the little things and 141 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 8: stuff like that, like from the first steps to how 142 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 8: you hit a move to how you land. 143 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: On the second step and stuff like that. 144 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 8: Uh just watch and then like I said, being around 145 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 8: you know, the vits and stuff like that, they helped 146 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 8: me in being around job too. 147 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 3: Uh. 148 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 8: It just it just shoots like my confidence is high 149 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 8: right now and I just got to keep it high 150 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 8: and I don't want to and I keep people in 151 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 8: my corner, you know, to keep me confident. 152 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 3: And not make me. Not not I'm not gonna say 153 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: make me, but when. 154 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 8: They see me started being complacent and stuff like that, 155 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 8: that's where yeah, nah. 156 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: No, we're not doing this. 157 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 8: But uh, it just just staying on top of what 158 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 8: I do and keeping it simple, not trying to do 159 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 8: too much. 160 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: You know. 161 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 9: So you mentioned confidence is so important. I'd have to 162 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 9: imagine when you finally, you know, you broke through you 163 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 9: got your first secon think last year was Tennessee early 164 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 9: in the season, and then later in the season when 165 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 9: you kind of got on that role and that confidence. 166 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 9: And we're not looking backwards, but from your mental standpoint, 167 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 9: at some point it's like, absolutely. 168 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: I belong here. 169 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 9: And not only do I belong here, I can I 170 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 9: can make plays and be a difference maker. And now 171 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 9: with you know, Jim Schwartz being so open minded you 172 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 9: think about. You can line up there with four defensive 173 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 9: ends and obvious passing situations, and we did that a lot. 174 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 9: You can go in, Miles can go inside, the Darius 175 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 9: can go inside. 176 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 2: You got Obo. It's just it's an exciting group to 177 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: be a part of it. I think that that confidence 178 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: that you talked about that has to be so big. 179 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 8: It's also like you said, playing a planing along side 180 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 8: like Miles, and just like just like you said, you're 181 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 8: playing across each other and stuff like that. That's what 182 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 8: if chemistry comes in and stuff like that and people 183 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 8: don't realize. You know, I wouldn't have got that sack 184 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 8: if it wasn't for a mouse. 185 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: Because that's what forces him to step up and where 186 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: you were. 187 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, but you did swim, move and make a guy 188 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 9: who's three hundred. He didn't touch you. You made a 189 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 9: human being. You're a big guy. He's a big guy, 190 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 9: and he did not make contact with your being. 191 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: And I didn't realize. 192 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 8: It was that bad inside watching the film, I was like, 193 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 8: oh my god, that's so that's when you realize. It 194 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 8: was like, Okay, now you know for sure I could 195 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 8: do this. I could do this, Like this is this 196 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 8: is nothing when you when you practice it, and you 197 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 8: practice in practice and soil, you can't. 198 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: Get it wrong, you know. 199 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 8: But like I said, I'm not I'm not going to 200 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 8: focus on the good at all. 201 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 202 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 8: There was plays that you know I could have did better. 203 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 8: That's there's always a standard, you know, somebody, somebody willed 204 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 8: it to me. You just wanted it was like you 205 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 8: gotta good game. Like No, it was just wasn't enough. 206 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 8: And that's that's what That's what I love that coach, Jock. 207 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 8: That's what he instilled in me. 208 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: You know. 209 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 8: It's just it's not enough just because you got to say, 210 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 8: don't mean you can't get another one, like right, like 211 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 8: get his mean as you won't get as mean as 212 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 8: you can, like the opportunity presents itself. Like but uh, 213 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 8: it's just it's just the work ethic and stuff like 214 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 8: that along with all four of us out there and 215 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 8: just being just the chemistry that's just being built from 216 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 8: last year and just keeping it going and keep me going. 217 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 7: Everything you're talking about it, it sounds like you you 218 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 7: had figured out early on in your career here how 219 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 7: to be a pro right and in the sense of 220 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 7: being a professional. Because one thing I noticed listen to 221 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 7: Alex like, not too high, not too low. It's a 222 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 7: long season. You guys are building towards something much much bigger. 223 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 7: So we're not We don't need cakes and surprises and 224 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 7: everything day and day and week too. We got much 225 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 7: bigger things. We got things we got to do to 226 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 7: keep getting better. And you guys have kind of all 227 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 7: grown up as pros together. There's a lot of you 228 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 7: guys that have been together now a couple of years, 229 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 7: and you look around familiar faces. 230 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: That's got to be part of it. When you talk 231 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: about that culture. I think that's what that is. 232 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, you just got to build, like you 233 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 8: just you learn the building. You learn to just be 234 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 8: around each other, not only on the field, but off 235 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 8: the field. 236 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 3: Also. 237 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 8: You know how comfortable Miles is doing something compared to 238 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 8: you know, how comfortable with something with. 239 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Z And we talked, we talked, we talked, we talked. 240 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 8: And you know, and they coached me up and I 241 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 8: tell him, you know what I feel this is I 242 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 8: did this on his play because he did this. Okay, 243 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 8: next time, maybe we could, you know, switch something up. Okay, 244 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 8: you do this, I do this this third. You know, 245 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 8: it just comes so natural to the point where it 246 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 8: don't we don't even have to be verbal about it. Yeah, 247 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 8: So when it's to the point where we don't be 248 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 8: verbal about it and we just know each other. But 249 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 8: like I said, like you said, it's a long season 250 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 8: and we just really getting started, so. 251 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 9: And it was important to get this one. You just 252 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 9: went down there. This was a it was a big game. 253 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 9: You needed to get back to one and one. And 254 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 9: now you got the Giants coming to town this week 255 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 9: and I'm sure you'll turn your attention. 256 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: To that in short order. But that was a big one. 257 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 9: And there's been a lot of time right about all 258 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 9: the Browns defense last year on the road and you 259 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 9: guys go out there and hold it a very good 260 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 9: offense to thirteen points and seal that deal. Was that 261 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 9: an important one to you guys? 262 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: Do? It was very important? 263 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 8: It was very important because not only you know, we 264 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 8: had to bounce back from week one, but it's the fact, 265 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 8: like you said, we were on the road, and that's 266 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 8: where we have to we have to lock in even 267 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 8: more because we have we have dog pound fans that 268 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 8: they travel for sure, but it's not like the doll Pound. 269 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: Back in Cleveland. 270 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 8: There there's home fans from the other side that's just 271 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 8: as loud and stuff like that. 272 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: And that that. 273 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 8: That they provide, the momentum, they provide, the energy, they 274 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 8: provide all that. So we have to bring our own 275 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 8: energy as a team. Sometimes the doll pand fans may 276 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 8: not be enough. We have to That's why we have 277 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 8: to come together amongst ourselves. Yeah, so that just goes along. 278 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 8: Like I said with the walk off, and in order 279 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 8: for me to do that, like doing that on the 280 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 8: road and just hearing the crowd. Yeah, Like and I 281 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 8: could instantly just run up to doll Pint fans. It's 282 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 8: not you years and it's like they overtaking the stadium. 283 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: Like, let me tell you something. 284 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 9: When you got that sack, as we were in the 285 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 9: press spects obviously looking right down it was head for 286 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 9: the Hills. 287 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 8: Brother, they knew it was right, but yeah, it was 288 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 8: just like, man, like that's just because it's we look 289 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 8: at it as the next one, like it was so 290 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 8: important that we had to and just go want to know, 291 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 8: just like coach to fans can say every week, just 292 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 8: want to know. 293 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: We don't focus on the past. We don't focus on 294 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: the future. 295 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 8: We focused on this week and this week only, and 296 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 8: then once this week is over, then we'll focus on 297 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 8: the next week. 298 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: But until then we'll focus. 299 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 8: On Monday through the end of the game. 300 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: That's it. 301 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 8: But like you said, man, it's it's it's it's very important. 302 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 8: We take those very seriously, especially on the road. 303 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, where you'll. 304 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: Be back home this Sunday. Obviously bad taste in the mouth. 305 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 7: Last time we had a game down on the Lake, 306 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 7: those home fans at dog Pound, it's it's six days out. 307 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 7: The weather looks like it's going to be spectacular. They 308 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 7: will be piped, hyped up and ready to go. I'm 309 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 7: sure your guys will well as well, to get back 310 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 7: out on the home field. 311 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 3: Of course, of course I can't. I can't wait to 312 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: be got down there. 313 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 314 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 8: I don't feel at home unless you just I'm surrounded BYuT, 315 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 8: orange and brown. Just because it's a home game doesn't 316 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 8: mean I don't feel at home. But just being around 317 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 8: those fans and just the hateliness, the craziness, just the 318 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 8: love for the game, and just how low they are, Like, 319 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 8: you know, we we were gonna get back to the 320 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 8: drawing boy, and we're gonna make sure that you know, 321 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 8: we do the best I can to, of course, to 322 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 8: get it up. 323 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: So I think he's a man of his word. 324 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 7: Thank you so much for stopped by Alex Incredible gaming yesterday. 325 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 7: I know you you're looking for not just the positives 326 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 7: but the negatives and how to fix all of it perfectionists, 327 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 7: but that's a heck of a way to walk off 328 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 7: at the end of that one. 329 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: Thanks for your talking. 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We are 337 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 7: loaded up listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty 338 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 7: ESPN Cleveland. 339 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Ballely bet Now 340 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: live in Ohio, on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 341 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: What did it down? 342 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 4: Back to throw? Adam a cone, taking time, taking time, flushed. 343 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,359 Speaker 5: Out right, eyes downfield, Eddy's gonna. 344 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 4: Throw almost intercepted. 345 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 5: Judy caught it at the Jaguars thirty five, right at 346 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 5: the marker. 347 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: How did he bring that down? 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We're seeing 364 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 7: his big league, big picture, and maybe one of the 365 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 7: new guys at PFF can shed some light on this. 366 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 7: But you are seeing historically low passing numbers, not just 367 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: in yards but in touchdowns, yards per attempt. It's staggeringly low. 368 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 7: You see a lot of thirty six attempts one hundred 369 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 7: and seventeen yards passing stuff Like, it's wild, what's happening 370 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 7: in the league. So I think that's getting some of 371 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 7: these strange margins that we've seen. But yeah, it's just 372 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 7: survive in advance, man, Like, just win a game and 373 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 7: get out and get to another one. I think everyone 374 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 7: because the preseason is the way that it is. These 375 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 7: first couple of games are kind of like preseason games, 376 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 7: except they count so like you don't want to get 377 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 7: buried like Baltimore and Cincinnati. 378 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 9: Honestly, absolutely, Look when we had talked about this, you 379 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 9: and I both on the air and even off the air, 380 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 9: you needed to be one and one coming out of 381 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 9: the first two. If you were two and oh, what 382 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 9: an absolute treat. But you needed to be one and 383 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 9: one coming out of the first two games. And that's 384 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 9: exactly what you've done now. And by the way, if 385 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 9: you were going to be one and one and you're 386 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 9: trying to put your like if it was a guarantee 387 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 9: you'd be one and one. Of course, it would have 388 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 9: been fun to beat the Cowboys at home. Yeah, this 389 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 9: game actually matters more because it was a conference game. 390 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 7: We said that but last Monday, like, the one you'd 391 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 7: want is the one in the conference, and you got it. 392 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and was it easy? 393 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 9: No. The great news is there's a lot to clean up, 394 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 9: and it's you're cleaning it up after a victory. And 395 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 9: I thought Kevin Sefanski and his postgame locker room speech 396 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 9: said something that was so good. The great teams or 397 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 9: the teams that actually are going to accomplishing this year, 398 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 9: don't play their best football in September. No, No, and 399 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 9: we're far from our best football. Thirteen penalties Again, we'll 400 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 9: get into drops all the things that hampered us in 401 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 9: this game. But you did enough to beat a competent 402 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 9: football team on the road in Week two in a 403 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 9: game that you really had to have, and there was 404 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 9: I think some pressure around it. Oh my god, and 405 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 9: the Browns did it. 406 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 7: I thought it was I thought you and I talked 407 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 7: about this with the hof off air you and I 408 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 7: talked about this this morning. I think this was the 409 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 7: best start to the game Deshaun Watson has had as 410 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 7: a Cleveland Brown. I think he was better than the numbers, 411 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 7: even in totality. 412 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: Significantly lead you to believe. 413 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 7: I think he needed it. Look, it was a tough 414 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 7: week off the field. Do you think about the loss 415 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 7: of a father, all of the other things that are 416 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 7: going around, the new new allegations, all that stuff. He 417 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 7: had to deal with a lot over the course of 418 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 7: last week. And to go down there to take on 419 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 7: the kid who followed him at Clemson at quarterback. Both 420 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 7: those guys won national championships at Clemson, Travis Etienna teammate, 421 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 7: all of that stuff, and then to go down there 422 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 7: in a monster spot against a team that's more desperate 423 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 7: than you were. They had lost six in a row 424 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 7: with Trevor Lawrence. They they're staring up at Houston going 425 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 7: I don't know if they can catch Houston looks lights out, 426 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 7: so like, yes, the idea that you're going to catch 427 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 7: them doesn't seem likely. 428 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 2: This could get desperate. 429 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 7: Quickly for them, far more so even than us. Based 430 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 7: on what everybody's goals are in this thing. So there 431 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 7: was a ton of pressure, and I thought Deshaun came 432 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 7: out and played the best first half of football that 433 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 7: he's played as a Cleveland brown and I think in 434 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 7: the second half he. 435 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: Was probably done a little bit dirty. 436 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 7: We'll talk about the play at the end of the 437 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 7: game on the on the third down, which obviously can't happen, 438 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 7: but in terms of the rest of it, I thought 439 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 7: it was as clean as he started a game for 440 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 7: as as a member of the Cleveland Browns. 441 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 9: I think that's really the only blemish kind of on 442 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 9: the record was that decision on that game. And we'll 443 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 9: break down that play more thoroughly, I would imagine at 444 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 9: some point. But you look at his metrics against pressure 445 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 9: in this one, ten to fifteen for one hundred four yards, 446 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 9: played very well against pressure, and really, if it weren't 447 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 9: for the four drops, you're talking twenty six of thirty four. Yeah, 448 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 9: which I'm gonna do just a little quick math here. 449 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 9: You're talking twenty six to thirty four. That would have 450 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 9: been seventy six percent. 451 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: Is that right? 452 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 9: Do it again, Yeah, seventy six percent. Completions that would 453 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 9: have those four would have added at least one sixty 454 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 9: yards to the total, so you're talking now two fifty, 455 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 9: maybe even more than that. But what you saw was 456 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 9: a guy who was able to rip the ball down 457 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 9: the field. Only ten six of his passes went more 458 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 9: than ten yards in the air. On those, he was 459 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 9: four of six and he netted for the Browns eighty 460 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 9: four yards. 461 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: So he was. 462 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 9: Showing in the big throat at Judy on the left, 463 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 9: I thought was a great one. Obviously, if Amari catches 464 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 9: the other one, you're talking about five of six for 465 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 9: probably one hundred and twenty yards. That's what you need. 466 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 9: You take what's there, and he did that certainly, you know, 467 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 9: keeping the ball to the line of scrimmage often, but 468 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 9: he did a great job I thought of navigating the pocket. 469 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 9: He was under pressure in this game forty seven percent 470 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 9: of the time, yeah, more almost as much as he 471 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 9: was in Week one. But he did such a good 472 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,239 Speaker 9: job e looting it. There were multiple times I'm sure 473 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 9: he saw on TV, and I would imagine Jason mccordy 474 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 9: highlighted it where they would run stunts and twists and 475 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 9: our communication on the line is just not where it 476 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 9: needs to be at this point, and it resulted in 477 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,959 Speaker 9: free runners at him Trayvon Walker had twice. Yeah, completely 478 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 9: free runs out of him, and not only did he 479 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 9: get out of it, didn't get sacked, he turned it 480 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 9: into positive plays. I thought it was his one of 481 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 9: the numbers. Don't say, oh it was you know the 482 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 9: Tennessee where he was, you know, was he twenty three 483 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 9: to twenty seven for two eighty nine and two or 484 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 9: you know, fourteen or fourteen. 485 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: Doesn't say that. 486 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 9: But when you talk about in terms of what opportunities 487 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 9: presented himself and what he did with the football and 488 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 9: the way that he protected it and made plays with 489 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 9: his legs bought time. This was one of Deshaun Watson, 490 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 9: his decisiveness. This is one of the best games I think, 491 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 9: start to finish that he has played with the Browns. 492 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 9: And it was You say, but we only scored eighteen points, 493 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 9: And that's true, and there are a lot of reasons 494 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 9: for that. 495 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are. 496 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 7: There sure are a lot of summit the protection drops 497 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 7: and penalties, just pal penalties. 498 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,479 Speaker 2: We went penalties first and tent on their ten. 499 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 7: I mean that's thirteen of them. So god, it's two 500 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 7: weeks in a row. Just what This is not what 501 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 7: Stefancy coach teams have. 502 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 9: Been no, and there were there were multiple plays in 503 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 9: that game that were not I would not be accustomed 504 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 9: to a Stefanski type of a team. And so what 505 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 9: do I mean by that, I mean the penalties. Yes, 506 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 9: I think sometimes guys may be trying to do too much. Amari, 507 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 9: who I think was trying to make up for maybe 508 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,239 Speaker 9: the drops. Yeah, he's a veteran third and short. You 509 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 9: catch it past the sticks, you just stay past the sticks. 510 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 9: You do not come, You do not give up the 511 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 9: first down and force a fourth down situation. You know, 512 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 9: clock management stuff at the end and where if you're hurt, 513 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 9: you got to get off the field unless you're incapable 514 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 9: of getting off the field because that's stops the clock. 515 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 9: So just little thing, situational football things. And I'm glad 516 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 9: by the way that Obo is is good because obviously 517 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 9: when it's concussion here that that's scary, and you understand 518 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 9: why he stayed down, and I'm glad that he's okay. 519 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 9: But there were a lot of little things. And then 520 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 9: what I wonder about is, and I was reading some 521 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 9: on this from people who are smarter than me, we're 522 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 9: not getting our hands on the offensive line sometimes in 523 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 9: the proper places, and that's leading the holds, and so 524 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 9: you just wonder there was a very meticulous drill sergeanty 525 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 9: type of nature in some level from Bill Callahan. That is, 526 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 9: it's just not gonna be here. He's going to coaching. 527 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: It's over. He's not here. 528 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 9: But we have got to do a better job there, 529 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 9: because when you think of the penalties, you know, Pro 530 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 9: Football Focus designs eight penalties to our offensive line alone. 531 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: That's too many. That's that's crazy. 532 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 9: I mean not to mention the orbit motion mealies, which, 533 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 9: by the way, I've talked to multiple people who are 534 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 9: very in the know at the top of this organization 535 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 9: on the foot wall side, absolutely befuddled by those penalties 536 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 9: because we've run those orbit motions a billion times. They've 537 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 9: never called penalties the guys the rule. So the emphasis 538 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 9: they're trying to stop is, you know how last year, 539 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 9: in the last couple of years, Miami would run like 540 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 9: say Tyreek in motion across and then he'd start almost 541 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,199 Speaker 9: with a running start up the field. They're trying to 542 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 9: eliminate people moving forward at the time of the snap, right, 543 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 9: that's an unfair advantage. I think there needs to be 544 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 9: some understanding if a guy slightly moving forward. We're calling 545 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 9: it a degree or two. And he's not only is 546 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,719 Speaker 9: he behind the quarterback, he's behind the running back. Like 547 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 9: if you're eight yards off the line of scrimmage, if 548 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 9: you're moving a degree forward at the time the balls, 549 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 9: does it matter, No, it does not matter. I don't 550 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 9: know what this arbitrary rule is that the kicker can't 551 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 9: cross the fifty, but that is a rule, and we 552 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 9: can't do that. 553 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: That took away a huge turnover and this came. So 554 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking. 555 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 7: That's those person I said about that one mental things 556 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 7: the boys were asking about that. 557 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 2: They said, well, I didn't know that was a rule. 558 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 7: I said, I didn't either, But you know who does know, 559 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 7: Bubbano's and Dustins. They know because it's a silly thing. 560 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 7: It's pretty arbitrary. It's very arbitrary, like to just like 561 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 7: randomly like, okay, you can't do this, like we're worried 562 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 7: about the kicker on this like that, just that whole thing. 563 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 9: By the way, watching him the rest of the game, 564 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 9: and listen, as a kicker, he's always kicked it and 565 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 9: you kind of just jogged down the field. He went 566 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 9: over the fifty on every kick even after that, and 567 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 9: then you'd see him catch himself and try to jump back. 568 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 2: And he's done it for fifteen years. Like what you know. 569 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: I just think, kick it and don't move, brother, I 570 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: guess that's it. Kick it and don't move. One other thing. 571 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 10: I know. 572 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 7: We got Andrew Cilliano coming up here shortly. I did 573 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 7: want to bring this up though, because you mentioned Watson 574 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 7: with the numbers not telling the story. I think the 575 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 7: same is true of Deontay Foreman. I think I think 576 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 7: that does not tell the story. Fourteen of forty two. 577 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 9: Z Deontay Foreman, and by the way, had at least 578 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 9: three runs for another thirty forty yards, come back, come back, 579 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 9: various penalties him obviously with the face mask. No Deontay Foreman. 580 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 9: What he did was bring a physicality to the brown 581 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 9: ground game that was not there. He averaged two and 582 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 9: a half yards after contact. 583 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 2: I love that. 584 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 9: And what it did was he allowed for Jerome Ford 585 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 9: to be number one, not only that, more fresh and 586 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 9: number two. He was kind of being physical that hammer, 587 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 9: wearing them down, and then Ford would come in fresh 588 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 9: and be able to kind of pop some longer runs. 589 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 9: I love that one two punch I actually saw Douce 590 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 9: Sdaley down in the KFA and I gotta tell you, 591 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,719 Speaker 9: I love that one two punch and he's like, I 592 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 9: did too, So I think you're gonna see more of 593 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 9: that going forward. And I was totally befuddled asked to 594 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 9: why we didn't see it at all in week one. 595 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: We questioned that, and obviously I. 596 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 9: Think we were not alone in those thoughts, and he 597 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 9: was able to go out there and get significantly more 598 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 9: work and I thought, play very, very well. 599 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: He gives you. 600 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 7: It's a different feel. There's a hammer to it. I 601 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 7: was watching with the two younger boys and they thought 602 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 7: it was Kareem right away because you see the hair 603 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 7: in the twenty seven and you go, is that Kareem? 604 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 7: And I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's not. But 605 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 7: he and I like what you said this morning. He 606 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 7: runs like like Steve and Jackson gonna up. The violence 607 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 7: that he runs with is similar to Kareem, Like if 608 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 7: you're gonna tackle him buckle in well. 609 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 9: Number one, Yes, he is gonna He's a physical runner. 610 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 9: Number two, He even on plays that aren't necessarily We've 611 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 9: had a problem where we had so many kind of 612 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 9: zero or negative runs he's gonna fall forth, He's gonna 613 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 9: get you two, yeah or three. But then he's also 614 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 9: shown he has the ability, which was maybe kind of 615 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 9: the difference with Kareem last year. He has ability. If 616 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 9: he gets in the field, he can go run away 617 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 9: from you. Now yep, And he certainly I thought, looked great. Agreed, 618 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 9: and I thought what he meant to the football team 619 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 9: was significant in terms of the tone that he set 620 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 9: and what he allowed for Jerome Ford to do and 621 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 9: really what he allowed for this offense to be able 622 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 9: to do. 623 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: You mentioned Ford. Ford ended up seven for sus a 624 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: clip great and one of that. 625 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 9: On one of the I said, how about the Stones 626 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 9: on Kevin Sefans Kantick is what I said on the 627 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 9: broadcast fourth. 628 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: Down You're running a long sc kind of. 629 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 9: Slow developing outside power and Ford ripped it, got great 630 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 9: black from. 631 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 2: James Hudson and Joel Batonio. Was awesome. All right? 632 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 7: If a car trucker motorcyxul accent cause you. Adrian called 633 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 7: the injury lawyers at one eight hundred elk Ohio for 634 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 7: a free case review. 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Ford is in the backfield. 642 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 5: Aikins in motion. 643 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: Do we go sneak here? 644 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: Jamus No hands running left, Drove Ford breaks free course 645 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 5: down down the sideline, twenty knocked out? 646 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 4: About that the fifteen. 647 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 2: What stones on? 648 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 9: Kevin Stefanski to run an outside, I'd run there. 649 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 2: Oh be the. 650 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 7: Preferred provider of copiers a document services your Cleveland Browns. 651 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 7: I'll tackle any size office called two and six forty five, 652 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 7: two thousand. Visit Ohio Businessmachines dot Com. As you head 653 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 7: on on the Twisted Hotline brought you by Twisted Hard 654 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 7: Iced tea official sponsor of your Cleveland Browns. Keep it 655 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 7: Twisted Cleveland. He is Andrew Siciliano on the call. Was 656 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 7: the yesterday down in Jacksonville and all season long? Andrew, 657 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 7: thank you so much for the time. How long was 658 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 7: the last minute and a half two minutes for you. 659 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 11: Oh my god, guys, it was painful. Not as painful 660 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 11: as a flat tire. 661 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 10: I just got about four minutes. 662 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 2: No, no pothole. What happened? 663 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 11: I wish it were a pothole, because then I calf 664 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 11: blamed somebody else. I I just took a turn two tights. 665 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 11: It was like a really high curb. I was picking 666 00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 11: up coffee. It's a really high curb and a narrow 667 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 11: driveway and just you almost have to make a ninety 668 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 11: degree turn into this parking lot and just clip the curb, 669 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 11: smash the time. Can't believe. 670 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not a good way to That's not a 671 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: Victory Monday performance, buddy, Victory Monday. 672 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 11: Oh my gosh, good morning. Yeah, that last ninety seconds 673 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 11: not good. Uh the third down almost fumble, not good? 674 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 11: But hey, survive in advance, man. I I I actually 675 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 11: thought I watched back to Hail Mary, like, thank god, 676 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 11: they didn't put an extra second on the clock, Like 677 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 11: you didn't see like a huge celebration at first, right, waitnut, 678 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 11: They're gonna put a second on the clock. No, they didn't, 679 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 11: thankfully over Victory Monday. 680 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 9: And they had been adding, they had added to everything. 681 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: Seconds last Yeah, let's give it a. 682 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 11: Couple extra Yeah, you know what, make it. 683 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: One, make it one thirty eight. 684 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 11: Yeah. 685 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 2: The biggest takeaway. 686 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 7: What I was most curious about, and I'm sure Andrew 687 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 7: you had a similar views and I've talked about it 688 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 7: a lot, was just how DeShawn would play coming off 689 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 7: of a tough week. And I actually thought it's the 690 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 7: best start to a game that he's had as a 691 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 7: Cleveland Brown. Yes, what did you see from a difference 692 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 7: from him in terms of other early starts of games 693 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 7: with DeShawn and what you saw on Sunday? 694 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 11: Well, guys, the first two drives, really they twenty eight 695 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 11: plays in the first two drives resulting in ten points. 696 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 11: And Nathan remind me was it seven or nine? I 697 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 11: know we looked it up during the game. They didn't 698 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 11: run their twenty eighth play week one until either the 699 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 11: seventh or the ninth. 700 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: The ninth drive. Yeah, that was a great fact you dropped, right. 701 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, just I mean that tells the entire story. He 702 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 11: was on target, he was on time, he was you know, 703 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 11: I'm sure you guys are going to spend all week 704 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 11: talking about a Maria. I don't think we need to. 705 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 11: I think he'll easily bounce back, but could have a 706 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 11: touchdown on that shot as well at around what the 707 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 11: fifteen yard line. I think you played well the entire 708 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 11: offense blogged down in the second half that first drive, 709 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 11: third quarter, you know it's got to be I don't 710 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 11: know that you need a sixteen play drive to open 711 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 11: up the third quarter would have been nice, but you 712 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 11: need something there and or was it the second drive? Regardless, Yeah, 713 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 11: it was his best start to the game considering last 714 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 11: year there were a couple of opening drives. Pittsburgh comes 715 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 11: to mind, Baltimore comes to mind in September, where you're 716 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 11: just like, what is going on here? 717 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 9: Yes, but again, as we talked about, it was victorious 718 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 9: and for DeShawn, we talked about a great game, and 719 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 9: Bo and I were just making a point earlier. I 720 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 9: thought Deonta Foreman brought a very nice element to this offense. 721 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 9: And not only did it benefit the Browns and as 722 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 9: a team, but I thought it benefited the offense in general, 723 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 9: DeShawn in particular, and then also Jerome Ford kind of 724 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 9: having that compliment to work off who was the hammer 725 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 9: and then he could do his shifty, kind of patient 726 00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 9: bouncing runs. 727 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: And make some big Yeah. 728 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 11: And if you put Ford and Deonta Foreman's numbers together, 729 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 11: I think it's what like twenty one for one oh 730 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 11: four something like that. 731 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, for five yards of carry yep, exactly. 732 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 11: That's perfect. And I know the everyone always has a reaction. 733 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 11: We you take away the thirty six yards run on 734 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 11: fourth down, By the way, that's not how it works. 735 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 11: You don't take away that run. No, that's why that 736 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 11: run pounted. That run was on a fourth down. That 737 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 11: run was huge. Jerome was just talking about it earlier. 738 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 11: By the way, he met with the media about it 739 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 11: forty minutes ago. He said they had practiced it, they 740 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 11: knew it was going to be their coach and told them, hey, like, 741 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 11: we may go to this because remember they'd done the 742 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 11: sneak earlier with Jamis Jacksonville was thinking, you're gonna sneak 743 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 11: it again, same place, same result in stage and run 744 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 11: around end. He said that in practice he had trouble 745 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 11: seeing around a corner, and he had the same issue yesterday, 746 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 11: but he knew he had to trust it get around 747 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 11: that corner. Bam got around that corner, and then he joked, 748 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 11: I wish I was faster to finish it. But hey, 749 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 11: thirty six yards. I think it was thirty six. They'll 750 00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 11: take it. 751 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 7: Andrewvin you two, we've done some positives. Let's do a 752 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 7: couple of negatives. I'm to give you two negative stats. 753 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 7: You tell me which one is more troubling. Two of 754 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 7: fourteen on third down for US or thirteen penalties for 755 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 7: one hundred yards for US. 756 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 2: Well, both are one. 757 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 11: I think the latter leads to the former in a 758 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 11: lot of ways, right, because especially on that on that 759 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 11: drive of the fourth quarter where you get to the 760 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 11: ten and the end of the midfield two seconds later, 761 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 11: is that those penalties create third and long and longer 762 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 11: and then longer, and then it's almost impossible to convert 763 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 11: on third down. Like I looked at Nathan, I said, hey, 764 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 11: what do you call on third and thirty six? Right? 765 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 11: He is that on your card? 766 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: No? 767 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 11: Third and thirty six? 768 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 2: Wells a quarterback draw was the answer. 769 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 11: Which, which, by the way, not bad. I mean, I 770 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 11: see you not bad? Yeah, not bad. So yeah, one 771 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 11: leads to the other. I think you clean up the penalties. 772 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 11: Those third down numbers are far better because you're looking 773 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 11: at third and four and not third and thirty six. 774 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,479 Speaker 11: Or thirty twelve or thirty fifteen. You know, I do 775 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 11: think like some credit needs to be given here when 776 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 11: it comes to lining up. For example, James Hudson, if 777 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 11: you looked at what kind of a holding penalties, that's 778 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 11: another issue. But James Hudson, you know, was constantly looking 779 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 11: over the sideline thumbs up, thumbs up, and by lining up. Okay, 780 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 11: So like there's an example of let's coach it in 781 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 11: and and that stuck this week. Rodney McLeod also, you know, 782 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 11: was just talking a couple of minutes ago. I thought 783 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 11: it was a really good question. You can't remember who 784 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 11: asked it about how much of this has to be 785 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 11: self policed amongst the players obviously defensively as post offensively, right, 786 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 11: but you know, all these little things, can we self 787 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 11: police them? Right? Can the players themselves take it upon 788 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 11: each other to go, hey, you got to be better there. 789 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 11: Don't forget about that. Don't forget about that little detail. 790 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 11: I also don't think Miles jumping off sides unto the 791 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 11: opening possession of the game was I don't think that 792 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 11: was the right call. He flinched but never got across 793 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 11: the line. The jack bars wide receiver kind of moved 794 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 11: his arm to point it out that one did not 795 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 11: need to be. 796 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 7: Thrown, did you guys? I thought the way it looked 797 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 7: on television when they replayed that was almost like the 798 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 7: receiver was trying to touch Miles in an effort to 799 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 7: force the penalty. 800 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: That's what it felt like to me. 801 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 7: He was already yeah, yeah, yeah, like he was trying 802 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 7: to almost grab him to say that he induced this, 803 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 7: that's what it's. 804 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think that one was 805 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 11: the right call. 806 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: What do you think twelve ninety five? That's better? Now? 807 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: The problem is too many of those are on the offense. 808 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 9: Pro Football Focus assigned eight of the penalties to the 809 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 9: offensive line alone, and then we know we had some 810 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 9: of those orbit motion penalties that, by the way, has 811 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 9: befuddled everybody in this organization as to why those penalties 812 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 9: were called, and they're hoping to get a definitive answer 813 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 9: from the league on that. But it is the next 814 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 9: step for this offense. Twofold one. You've got to clean 815 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 9: up these penalties, number one, and then number two, we 816 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 9: got to do a better job catching the football, which 817 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 9: is this is not a problem that I recall plaking 818 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 9: the Cleveland Browns like it has these first two weeks. 819 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, and I thought Kurt Warner did a good job, Nathan, 820 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 11: You and I talked about this breaking down what broke 821 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 11: across the board offensively, and there are a couple of 822 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 11: throws where look, quarterbacks can debate what the red should 823 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 11: be right. And I'll leave it to Kurt Warner, who's 824 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 11: got a gold jacket, to tell me whether not a 825 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 11: read is right. And you know, I'd love to pick 826 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 11: the Shawn's brain on that as well. But you look, 827 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 11: sometimes you could throw guys into walls. Other times you're 828 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 11: just dropping balls that are open. And I think the latter, well, 829 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 11: both are concerning. But if you look at the ones 830 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 11: that have been dropped that have been opened, that gives 831 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 11: you a little more breathing room of the fourth quarter 832 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 11: last week, right yesterday rather and and those are the 833 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 11: little things. But listen, and this is not an excuse 834 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 11: maker here. There are a lot of little things across 835 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 11: the league that are sinking teams. I mean, Dan Campbell 836 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 11: took took the blame. 837 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 12: Yesterday. 838 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 11: They had seventeen men on the field at an end 839 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 11: of half situation trying to get a field goal team 840 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 11: out there the field goal team right around of the 841 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,760 Speaker 11: field before Jared Goff can spike it with six seconds remaining, 842 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 11: you know, they complete a pass down field, everyone's running 843 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 11: down their lineup, spike it. Let's get the kicker out there. Well, 844 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 11: the kick team was already out there, and so those 845 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 11: are little things. So they had the runoff and that's 846 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 11: the end of the half. They don't get the kickoff 847 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 11: and then they end up losing. Every team has a 848 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 11: lot of little things to clean. 849 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 9: Up right now, there's no doubt and if you're the 850 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 9: Cleveland Browns, the fact that you get to clean it 851 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 9: up after a win, after a conference win, and you 852 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 9: were right on that after the Dallas game, he said, look, 853 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 9: when this schedule came out, would you have loved to 854 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 9: be two and zero. Of course, but you had to 855 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 9: at least be one in one, and if you were 856 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 9: going to be one in one, it actually was more 857 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 9: beneficial to be one in one in this regard beating 858 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 9: the Jags, the AFC team. And so now you're a 859 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 9: Brown team that says, okay, we got that done. We 860 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 9: have a schedule that gets a little bit more favorable. 861 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 9: Now with the New York Giants coming to town, and 862 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 9: we are not playing our best will pul I meant 863 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 9: just the bow in the open. I loved what Kevin 864 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 9: Sefanci said in the locker room, which is there was 865 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 9: a great team win and that wasn't our best football. 866 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 9: But the teams that go somewhere in this league don't 867 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 9: play their best football in September. 868 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 2: So we have room to improve, and we need to improve. 869 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 9: But it feels like it's setting up right now pretty 870 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 9: well in the things that are playing. The Browns feel 871 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 9: pretty fixable, right. 872 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 11: I'd say yes. I'd also say, and it's only Monday here, 873 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 11: it's a long week. You can't fall into the trap 874 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 11: of oh here comes to pathetic going two giants, Nope, 875 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 11: because they they looked better last week, a heck of 876 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 11: a lot better than they did week one. And the 877 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 11: leak Neighbors had one hundred yards and he had seventeen 878 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 11: to eighteen targets. You know where the ball is going 879 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 11: next week, it's going it's going to the league neighbors. 880 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 11: But he also had a crucial drop on fourth down 881 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 11: right late in the game, and that's a play where 882 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 11: the Giants are saying, hey, that's fixable for us too. 883 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 11: So look if they have a kicker, they win that game. 884 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,919 Speaker 11: And I'll likely loved last week yesterday. I keep saying 885 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 11: last week, it was like an hour ago. So the 886 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 11: Giants are some people think of the conversation for a 887 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 11: top five pick there. They still played better, and they 888 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 11: still have the leak neighbors. They still have Cavon Thibodeau. 889 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 11: You know, they they can still reek something day. 890 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 2: Hey, we wanted. 891 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 11: Jacksonville come home. Now we got to walk on Sunday. 892 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 11: That is not what this is. 893 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 2: That's not what this league is. 894 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 7: Early on right now, Baltimore was a nine and a 895 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 7: half point favorite at home. They were up double digits 896 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter of that game. I know it, 897 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 7: I know it, and it's just right now. It's the 898 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 7: passing numbers are historically low, the passing touchdowns historically low. Andrew, 899 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 7: my feeling kind of is and Zee and I've talked 900 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 7: about this a lot. Is the way that people handle 901 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 7: the preseason. It's almost like they're viewing these as kind 902 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 7: of preseason games, except here's the secret. 903 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 2: These games count. 904 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 7: But it's been a really strange first two weeks of 905 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 7: the season. 906 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 11: My friend, Yeah, I mean the New Orleans Saints, right, 907 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 11: have scored ninety one points. 908 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 2: They've scored on every drive one point. 909 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 11: I mean, they twenty four first downs yesterday against that 910 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 11: Cowboys defense that we saw and it is certainly a 911 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 11: talent defense. And they did that in Dallas ninety one 912 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 11: points in two games. I mean, Quint Kubiak is going 913 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 11: to be named head coach of the Panthers by mid season. 914 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that would help. By the way, I 915 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 2: love that I had a preview. 916 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 10: Yes, speaking of the Panthers, Bryce Young has been benched. 917 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 10: Sam Donald is your quarterback. 918 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 7: And quarterbacking and Andy Dalton and Donald Andy Dalton you 919 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 7: had to have. 920 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 2: It's the same thing you had to There was no. 921 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 11: Bad can can I can I ask the loud the 922 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 11: question was it coach or owner? Who did it? 923 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 2: It's a fair question with that organization. 924 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 11: I'm not watching it in Dallas right now. 925 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 2: What what do you what do you think box with 926 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: a flat tire. 927 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 7: With in the Starbucks of a flat tire and somewhere 928 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 7: in southern California? 929 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: Does that to me? 930 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 7: That would seem like a coaching change more than an 931 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 7: ownership change. Yeah, because a little bit of a little 932 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 7: bit of leash. 933 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 11: I mean, it's early da. I mean Calas was sitting 934 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 11: there yesterday like repeatedly saying on the podium, Bryce is 935 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 11: our quarterback. Bryce is our quarterback. It wasn't I need 936 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 11: to go watch the film. 937 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 3: Now. 938 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 11: You don't expect to coach after two weeks to say 939 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 11: to go back and watch the film Monday morning. 940 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 3: Interesting. 941 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 11: Well, I'll let the Charlotte media impact that. 942 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 9: One, and maybe some time away from task is what 943 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 9: he needs because what's happening out there is wild. 944 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 2: The highlights are no, it's just look, it's hard to watch. 945 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 7: We did, We dealt with various versions of this. Tim 946 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 7: Couch had his number retired down. It was in the 947 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 7: Hall of Fame at Kentucky by the way, Georgia. 948 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 2: But which on couch? Tim Couch looked like an Adonis. 949 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 11: I mean he looked like he could have taken the entire. 950 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: Team on his back, like physically, yes, and carry it. 951 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 7: So, yes, we've seen him when he was doing our 952 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 7: TV few years ago. He was on the TV local 953 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 7: here TV broadcast, so we saw him here in person, 954 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 7: and he looks. 955 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,399 Speaker 2: Like a defensive end. 956 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 7: Yes, like he's jacked, jacked. 957 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 11: Like you lift bro, I mean yeah, yes, he does. 958 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 2: No he's got it. That's an example. 959 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 7: I mean, you think of we're talking about Derek Carr, 960 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 7: think about David Carr. Bryce had things already against him 961 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 7: because of his size, but with a talent, just the 962 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 7: lack of talent on that offense and the situation they 963 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 7: put him in, they may have they gave up all 964 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 7: of that to get him, and he may be wrecked 965 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 7: already and he probably needed the perfect circumstances. 966 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 9: Anyway, guys, how about the fact that if Jordan Akins 967 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 9: did not catch a touchdown on fourth and twenty from 968 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 9: Davis Mills and then catch a two point conversion from 969 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 9: Davis Mills, that Bryce Young's a Texan. 970 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't even know where CJ. Strattus. Perhaps 971 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 2: he is a pantherp a Texan. 972 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,240 Speaker 11: Or are they taking CJ. Strout. 973 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,840 Speaker 2: John McLain John McClain. 974 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 7: General was emphatic, emphatic Bryce that they were taking Bryce 975 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 7: Young and interesting gone that way. 976 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 11: NBC did a great job. I don't know if you 977 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 11: guys caught the open. I was watching on the plane, 978 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 11: but NBC's opened last night told that story in sound 979 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,760 Speaker 11: full music video form. Very well done. 980 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Nickins, Yeah, all right, let's uh get you 981 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 7: out of here on this. Turn your attention to Sunday. 982 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 7: We're back here, Giants at homes. He mentioned the schedule 983 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 7: we mentioned. Take nobody lightly. We had Alex right in here. 984 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 7: They're not, I mean, they're game by game, not too high, 985 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 7: not too low. What do you hope to see early 986 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,760 Speaker 7: in the game on stadium, Manager. 987 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 11: Continued, five and six yards run five and six yard 988 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 11: runs on first down. Make it, like I said before, 989 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 11: third and manageable. It'd be great to see a sixteen 990 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 11: play drive. Open it up. I'll say this that the 991 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 11: Giants are are desperate. You know they are desperate. Now 992 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 11: you face a desperate team yesterday and you survived. You 993 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 11: beat him, and you beat him in their own building 994 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 11: and their home opener with a lot of people leaving early, 995 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 11: and honestly a lot of people in the upper deck. 996 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 11: We pointed out that even there to begin with, even 997 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 11: with the you know, I know the weather wasn't great, 998 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 11: But do not take this team in any way lightly. 999 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 11: Run the football. I think that's great, And honestly, I 1000 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 11: think the mix of the jumbo sets and the five 1001 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 11: wide and the empty they'll find the right balance. I 1002 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 11: think we saw that yesterday in the first half, it 1003 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 11: is about finding the balance and being able to go 1004 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 11: back and forth between the two styles. I think what 1005 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 11: we saw yesterday early was encouraging. You need to see 1006 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 11: more development along those lines. 1007 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 9: I'll tell you what from going back and watching the 1008 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 9: tape of this game. And then we heard coach earlier 1009 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 9: today say that he thinks that it's possible that both 1010 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 9: Jack Conklin and Jed Wills could be ready to play. Yep, 1011 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 9: if we had some more time. On some of these plays, 1012 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 9: there were absolute shots to be taken down the. 1013 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,000 Speaker 4: Field, and by the way, there were watching them. 1014 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1015 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 7: Absolutely, Yeah, Andrew and uh the hoff is up next. 1016 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 1017 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 7: You and him are responsible for probably the funniest Halloween 1018 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 7: picture I've ever seen on Sofia. Yeah, so that's It's 1019 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 7: the funniest damn thing. So I hope the tire gets 1020 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 7: a decent solution. There's never a good one, buddy. 1021 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 11: But I shredded it entirely. Oh yeah, it's gone. 1022 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 2: I need the flat bed. 1023 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 11: Oh God, shredded it. I look, guys, I was so excited, 1024 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 11: and I'm like, wait a minute, I am going to 1025 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 11: get I order my coffee to go. I'm going to 1026 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 11: some like I have an eleven o'clock somewhere. I'm going there. 1027 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 11: I'm gonna pull it a lot. I'm gonna grab my coffee. 1028 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 11: I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna be back in the 1029 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 11: car by thirty five when you guys call, so don't 1030 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 11: have to do the awkward like phone the bluetooth like 1031 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 11: that thing is never good, especially when doing one of these. 1032 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,959 Speaker 11: And I wasn't going to pass like I slowed down 1033 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 11: like I just I just took the high curb and bam. 1034 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 11: But all of a sudden, when the light goes you 1035 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 11: know you're you have zero air pressure and your tire 1036 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 11: within three. 1037 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 9: Secondss A problem, Like it's not like, oh it wasn't 1038 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 9: a sled. 1039 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 11: From Yeah, you've gone from thirty two to thirty. Okay, 1040 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 11: maybe I could deal with this. Maybe I can get 1041 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:19,320 Speaker 11: to where I'm going. Nope, when it goes zero immediately 1042 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 11: bad side. 1043 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 7: Well hopefully the flathead gets there sooner and it has 1044 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 7: some air conditioning for you, buddy, Thank you appreciate your time. 1045 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 7: Powers By all right, the Great Andrew Ceciliano joining us. 1046 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 7: They're on the Twisted Tea Hard Iced Tea Hotline. The 1047 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,479 Speaker 7: Joe Thomas Half hour of the program. Coming up next, 1048 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 7: you listen to Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by bally 1049 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 7: Bet Sportspinning part near Cleveland Browns Now Live in Ohio 1050 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:42,640 Speaker 7: on eight fifty ESPN. 1051 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet 1052 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1053 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 4: Cleveland Jaguars bring an extra old lineman. 1054 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,920 Speaker 5: However, out there Walker Little is there and they were 1055 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 5: running first down and go nowhere. 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Hoff is, 1066 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,919 Speaker 7: you've had not a little less than twenty four hours 1067 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 7: to think about it. What jumped out at you in 1068 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 7: the Browns win down in Jacksonville on Sunday. 1069 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 12: Well, it was the same thing that probably jumped out 1070 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 12: of everybody else that watched this game. It was a 1071 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 12: different to Shaun Watson that we saw this week and 1072 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 12: then we've seen pretty much throughout his tenure with the 1073 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 12: Cleveland Browns. 1074 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 9: It felt like he was more decisive. It felt like 1075 00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 9: he did a better job. You still would like the 1076 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 9: protection better because there were shots down the field. But 1077 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 9: what was it that you saw that was very encouraging 1078 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 9: to you about Deshaun Watson. 1079 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 12: It was the confidence, And I think that was the 1080 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,720 Speaker 12: biggest thing, you know, you could see last week. DeShawn 1081 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 12: just wasn't confident in what he was doing. I don't 1082 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 12: think he was yet totally confident in the shoulder. Because 1083 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 12: when you come off of serious ir season ending surgery, 1084 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 12: when you go back like you feel good. When you're practicing, 1085 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,520 Speaker 12: you feel like you're comfortable, But it's a different animal 1086 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 12: when you're playing regular season NFL football to go out 1087 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 12: there to trust the shoulder that you can do all 1088 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 12: the things that you want to do, make all the 1089 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 12: throws that you normally have made, and to be able 1090 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 12: to take a real hit right If you're a guy 1091 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 12: that is a quarterback in the NFL. You're not really 1092 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,800 Speaker 12: getting hit in regular season because most of those guys 1093 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 12: they don't even really preseason, and certainly they're not getting 1094 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 12: hit in practice. So to be able to go out 1095 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,799 Speaker 12: there and not think about the shoulders, not think about 1096 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 12: the pass rush, and just keep your eyes down the field, 1097 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 12: then take some of those shots with confidence that DeShawn 1098 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 12: finally making it made a few in the second half 1099 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 12: last week, and I think that's why we were probably encouraging, 1100 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,919 Speaker 12: you know, the three of us having our little text 1101 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 12: chain talking about, you know, what do they need to do, 1102 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 12: what do we need to do to make sure that 1103 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 12: we beat the Jaguars and we make improvement. For me, 1104 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 12: it was having DeShawn with confidence to be able to 1105 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 12: throw the ball and let it rip when there's people 1106 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 12: that are opened down the field. And that's exactly what 1107 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 12: we saw this weekend. 1108 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 2: Joe. 1109 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 7: I think it was not only was it awesome to see, 1110 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 7: but it was needed. I think it was needed for him. 1111 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 7: I think it was needed for the fan base, it 1112 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 7: needed for his teammates. It was just to come out 1113 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 7: as quickly as he did and to be so decisive 1114 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 7: with the ball. I thought it was the best start 1115 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 7: he had as a as a Cleveland Brown since he's 1116 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 7: been a Brown. I just thought it was really sensational 1117 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 7: and the statistics don't even really do it total justice 1118 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 7: in terms of what it could be. The other part 1119 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 7: of it was we ran the ball really well. And 1120 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 7: I talked to Zee about this a little bit earlier, 1121 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 7: Hoff and just this notion of this looks like what 1122 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 7: this felt like more of a Stefanski game plan to me. 1123 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 7: I know the third downs aren't good, I know the 1124 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 7: penalties aren't good, but in terms of the way that 1125 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,200 Speaker 7: he kind of schemed it up, it looked like a 1126 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 7: vintage to fancy game to me. What did you see 1127 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 7: if anything different be too offensively. 1128 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 12: Yeah, it did look like a vintage to fancy game 1129 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,040 Speaker 12: because they were establishing in the run game. They were 1130 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 12: getting guys open with the play action pass to Shawn. 1131 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 12: He wasn't quite as much just dropping back and staying 1132 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 12: in the pocket. He was getting out of the pocket 1133 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 12: when he was supposed to. And the first drive was beautiful. 1134 00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 12: You know, I always like watching offensive coordinators what they've 1135 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 12: got dialed up for that opening drive. You know, that 1136 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 12: opening script and some of the things that they were doing, 1137 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 12: bringing an extra offensive lineman with some of the different 1138 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 12: reverses and trying to take advantage of little inefficiencies that 1139 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 12: they'd seen on film. When you line up in this formation, 1140 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 12: the defense is doing this, they're leaving this gap open 1141 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,359 Speaker 12: when we moved this guy in motion. I just thought 1142 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 12: it was masterful. It was just fun to watch everything 1143 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 12: made sense, everything sit together like a puzzle, and you 1144 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 12: could just tell that it built that confidence right from 1145 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 12: the start for Deshaun Watson, so he'd go out and 1146 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 12: probably play his best game that he's had as a 1147 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 12: Cleveland Brown. 1148 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 9: It was and you wish that maybe he had some 1149 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 9: more catches and a fewer penalties, and then the Brown's 1150 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 9: gonna put up the points that were kind of commeserate 1151 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 9: with performance, because this was a game where the Browns 1152 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 9: had so many opportunities to just put the Jags away 1153 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 9: and didn't for a variety of reasons. Uh, Poff, I 1154 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 9: want to talk about this offensive line better performance. I 1155 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 9: think overall in this one, Joel certainly had a very 1156 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 9: strong game against the Jags. Dwan Jones continues to play 1157 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 9: very well, but and Wyatt I thought had a good game. 1158 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 9: But still some struggles Posik and Hudson, and really, in 1159 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,120 Speaker 9: addition to the pressures, it's the penalties. Are you seeing 1160 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 9: something from a technique standpoint, from a hand placement standpoint? 1161 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 9: What is leading to all of these holding penalties that 1162 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,240 Speaker 9: were not accustomed to seeing from a Brown's offensive line. 1163 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 12: I think it's twofold one. We got to remember that 1164 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 12: our two starting tackles are not playing, and pretty much 1165 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 12: any other team in the NFL, if you're down both 1166 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,480 Speaker 12: your starting tackles, you're in big trouble because there's just 1167 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 12: not enough starting tackles in the NFL to fill out 1168 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 12: the four spaces as it is, and then they have 1169 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 12: to go in your too deep and block the best 1170 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,320 Speaker 12: athletes on the team out there at defensive end. That's 1171 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,759 Speaker 12: a tall task and that's challenging. So I think we 1172 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 12: got to keep in mind a little bit that, Yeah, 1173 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,000 Speaker 12: we do have a couple of guys at backup that 1174 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 12: I think are probably playing way better than at that position. 1175 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 12: But he's your third tackle, you know what I mean. 1176 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 3: So I. 1177 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 2: Think he's our first tackle. I think he's our number. 1178 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 3: One first tackle. 1179 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 12: I like him too, all right, What the heck? We 1180 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 12: just made him the start of perfect. I like that, 1181 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,960 Speaker 12: let's just play with three tackles all the time. Screw this, 1182 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,239 Speaker 12: let's just run the ball. I'm with you, guys, but 1183 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 12: I think with from it like a technique standpoint. James specifically, 1184 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 12: I don't think he played all that well. I mean 1185 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,919 Speaker 12: it was pretty obvious, and he doesn't have a ton 1186 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 12: of experience, right, I mean, he's still a young guy 1187 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,280 Speaker 12: in this league. He came from playing defensive line in college, 1188 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,280 Speaker 12: played a little bit of tackle, and he puts himself 1189 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,000 Speaker 12: in good position. But I don't think he's quite yet 1190 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 12: comfortable with everything that he's seeing because I can tell 1191 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 12: after playing that position, if you get back to your 1192 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 12: spot and you're in good balance, there's really nothing that 1193 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 12: a defensive lineman can do that can beat you in 1194 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 12: that situation. And he's getting himself back, but he's still 1195 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 12: playing with like a sped up mind, right, like a 1196 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,280 Speaker 12: little hectic out there where you're saying you're in good position. 1197 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 12: Just be patient, be calm. You don't have to go 1198 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,719 Speaker 12: try to throw your hands and knock somebody out with 1199 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 12: a Mike Tyson right hook every single time. Just play 1200 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 12: the position and just be patient with what they do. 1201 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 12: React and you're in great shape, and so I think 1202 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 12: sometimes that lack of experience, a little bit of lack 1203 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 12: of confidence, he gets just a little ahead of himself 1204 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 12: with his technique, just trying to be too aggressive and 1205 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 12: doing too much when he can just be patient and calm. 1206 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 12: But I think the other thing leading to some maybe 1207 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 12: more of the holdings is we do have a quarterback 1208 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,760 Speaker 12: that gets out of the pocket a lot, and he runs, 1209 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 12: and just having that awareness on the offensive line to realize, 1210 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 12: as soon as my guy's not trying to push or 1211 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 12: trying to get to that spot where I think the 1212 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,360 Speaker 12: quarterback is supposed to be in the pocket and he 1213 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 12: starts running left or right, I need to try to 1214 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 12: run my feet and try to push and finish the 1215 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 12: guy rather than trying to hold on to him. Because 1216 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 12: at some point, as soon as the angle changes the 1217 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 12: quarterback leaves the pocket, you have to let go. So 1218 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 12: try to get one last shove, move your feet, try 1219 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 12: to knock him off to balance a little bit as 1220 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 12: the defensive lineman turns to run and chase the quarterback. 1221 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 12: Otherwise you're going to get a hold if you just 1222 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 12: try to hang onto it and you don't have that 1223 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 12: quick recognition. We're just going to keep getting holdings because 1224 00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 12: we do have a quarterback that likes to run and 1225 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 12: get out of the pocket. 1226 00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,879 Speaker 7: Dante Foreman brings a little different element to this thing 1227 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,720 Speaker 7: out of the running back off. And you talk earlier 1228 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 7: about how the numbers don't do it justice. I think 1229 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 7: it ends up. Fourteen for forty something is what it 1230 00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 7: ends up. But the impact felt more than that to 1231 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 7: me at old you know, kind of that cliche, but 1232 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,799 Speaker 7: it works right, the old thunder lightning thing. He ran 1233 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 7: with violence. It was fourteen hard earned carries. It felt 1234 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 7: like he inflicted pain on defenders trying to tackle him. 1235 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 7: I thought it kind of a quiet element where if 1236 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 7: you didn't watch the game, you maybe wouldn't think that 1237 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,640 Speaker 7: the impact was that big. It seemed like a pretty 1238 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,520 Speaker 7: big impact to me. What did you make of his 1239 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 7: first game action? 1240 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, he brought a physicality in a mindset that I 1241 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 12: hadn't felt in that first game, and I think it 1242 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 12: led to a really strong rushing performance under twenty five 1243 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 12: yards on the ground, and even though we had a 1244 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 12: number of things that weren't allowing us to finish good 1245 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,959 Speaker 12: drives in the end zone. When you play with that physicality, 1246 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 12: which you know, don't you go to Jacksonville September. It's hot. 1247 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: You're not used to that. 1248 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 2: You're worn down. 1249 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,279 Speaker 12: As a player just from dealing with it. I'm sure 1250 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 12: see in the box you were probably changing shirts at 1251 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,280 Speaker 12: halftime because you're dripping sweat the whole game. It's just humid. 1252 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 12: It just drains you even just existing down there when 1253 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 12: you're not used to it. And so the fact that 1254 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,799 Speaker 12: it was almost roles reversed a little bit where we 1255 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,680 Speaker 12: were kind of grinding them, wearing them out. We had 1256 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,760 Speaker 12: that physical run game with Deontay Foreman, it just felt 1257 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 12: really good that we could kind of dictate what we 1258 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 12: wanted to do to this defense, whereas last week he 1259 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 12: didn't feel like that. I felt like we were running 1260 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,439 Speaker 12: for our lives back there. We couldn't on the ball 1261 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,719 Speaker 12: effectively and quarterback didn't have time to throw. So it 1262 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 12: just felt like a flip where now we're dictating to 1263 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 12: that defense what we want to do and who we 1264 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 12: want to be from an identity standpoint, and I think 1265 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 12: the results are totally different because of that, And it 1266 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 12: builds a confidence in the second half that even though 1267 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 12: the game was where I just never sat there too, nervous, 1268 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,320 Speaker 12: and I felt like the team had that same feeling 1269 00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 12: like we're gonna win this. We don't know how, but 1270 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 12: we're going to find a way because we're just physically 1271 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 12: imposing our will on this team right now. 1272 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, and you saw that, and it's part of imposing 1273 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 9: your will. The Browns went heavy a lot, and I've 1274 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 9: heard some opinions as to why that happened. Off from 1275 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 9: your experience, what would you say is the reason the 1276 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 9: Browns did go with Zinter and Nick Harris out there 1277 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,719 Speaker 9: a lot, and they use that not only to run 1278 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,640 Speaker 9: the flipball, but also at times to create you know, 1279 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 9: maybe more max protect shot play type situations. 1280 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 12: Well, when you look at the Jacksonville defensive front, I mean, 1281 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 12: they have a really good defensive line. They've got supremely 1282 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 12: talented poss thrushers, but they're a little bit light and 1283 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,719 Speaker 12: not all that deep as far as you know, light 1284 00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 12: in the pencil, right, They're just not huge men typically 1285 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 12: across the board. But when you have an opportunity to 1286 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,760 Speaker 12: add an extra offensive lineman, now they have to sub 1287 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,279 Speaker 12: in and figure out, all right, how are we going 1288 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 12: to handle this? Right, We're gonna put another defensive end. 1289 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 12: We're gonna put another defensive linemen. We're gonna try to 1290 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 12: put in five defensive linemen. Go to like a bear 1291 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 12: or a jam solid type front where all the five 1292 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 12: offensive linemen are covered. Because now you're bringing in a 1293 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,799 Speaker 12: three hundred and fifteen pound guy. They have to make 1294 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 12: a decision how are we going to handle it? And 1295 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,720 Speaker 12: when you start smacking them in the face, they don't 1296 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 12: have the ability to go real deep with their big, 1297 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 12: physical run defenders. I mean, Trevon Walker is kind of 1298 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 12: like their big guy in the edge, but josh heinz 1299 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 12: Allen is not a huge man. And even they're inside guys. 1300 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 12: Eric Armstead he's a tall guy, but a lot of 1301 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 12: times tall guys. They're pretty goodt rushing the passer because 1302 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 12: they're great athletes. But you get under their pads, you 1303 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,239 Speaker 12: can move them in the run game and create horizontal 1304 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 12: and vertical stretch for your running backs to be able 1305 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 12: to get in there. And then now you got to 1306 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 12: running back coming downhill who's a physical presence running on 1307 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 12: linebackers over that situation for that defense to feel like 1308 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 12: they're in where we have to have our linebackers making 1309 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 12: a stop three yards down the field when Deontrey Foreman's 1310 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 12: got ahead of steam coming at you. 1311 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 7: So I want to ask you this show because one 1312 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 7: thing our guys Alex was in here talking about that, 1313 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 7: and you've heard our coaches are everybody talks about this, this. 1314 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 7: You know, this one week at a time thing in 1315 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 7: the league. Just try to go one to zero. But 1316 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 7: human nature, you would look at the schedule and you'd 1317 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 7: go Giants, Raiders who by the way, Raiders impressive. They 1318 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 7: win at Baltimore on Sundays, so you're not going to 1319 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 7: sleep on them, no change. 1320 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 9: Mince, you beat you last year, minch or a games, 1321 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 9: almost beat you, almost beat you last year, took you 1322 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 9: to the brink and then and then you got Baltimore 1323 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,480 Speaker 9: out there after that or I'm sorry, then you got 1324 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 9: Washington after that. 1325 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 7: So it's kind of your next three. So the human 1326 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 7: nature is to look ahead and go, okay, we can 1327 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 7: make a little hay. But at the same time, in 1328 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 7: a league that has Baltimore favored by nine and a 1329 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 7: half and losing it home to the Raiders, you can't 1330 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 7: afford that. So who are you looking to in the 1331 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 7: building to make sure that there is a that it's 1332 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 7: one win onto the next let's keep stacking him. 1333 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 2: It's part of what Stefanski is. But it has to 1334 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 2: come from the players too, right. 1335 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, And I think on offense, it always has to 1336 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 12: come from your quarterback, right because he's the guy that's 1337 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 12: standing back there on every play. He can see what 1338 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,960 Speaker 12: everybody's doing. He's your field general, getting everybody lined up. 1339 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,800 Speaker 12: But I think two, having a guy with experience like 1340 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 12: Joel Batonio, who's been around so long, you know, dealt 1341 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 12: with the lowest of the lows of an f NFL 1342 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 12: career can possibly be, with the losing that he had 1343 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 12: to deal with early on in his career. Now he's 1344 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 12: on a really quality team, and so I think he 1345 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 12: has a lot of perspective and a lot of respect 1346 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,320 Speaker 12: in the locker room to be able to just send 1347 00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 12: that message about one week at a time, Hey, we 1348 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 12: didn't panic after Week one. We knew we were going 1349 00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 12: to be okay. If we take care of business, we 1350 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 12: execute right. And obviously that's always Stefanski's message. He's really 1351 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 12: steady and I think outstanding from a message standpoint about 1352 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 12: understanding how the NFL goes Like, Hey, you know, one week, 1353 00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 12: you may think this is the worst team in the 1354 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 12: league and then the next week they go ahead and 1355 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 12: be the defending Super Bowl champs. So it's a league 1356 00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 12: of parody that you really have to focus and not 1357 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 12: look too far and certainly don't overlook anybody because of 1358 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 12: the quality of every single point and you're gonna face. 1359 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,720 Speaker 9: And that's why these little things are so important for 1360 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,960 Speaker 9: the Browns to keep cleaning up as this season goes on, 1361 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 9: limiting the number of penalties. And then on the other 1362 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 9: thing that's really kind of played this offensef drops and 1363 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:29,160 Speaker 9: from the most unlikely source imaginable, really right, and Amari Cooper, 1364 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 9: what do you make of when a guy who is 1365 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 9: that good is struggling at something that is, you know, 1366 00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 9: so basic and one of the things that he is 1367 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 9: the best in the world at. 1368 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, it's obviously bizarre and not something we expected to have. 1369 00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 12: The guy who's got some of the best hands that 1370 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 12: I've seen on a football field and the Marii Cooper 1371 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 12: is struggling to catch the football and so some of 1372 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 12: it it just goes back to concentration and a little 1373 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 12: bit of getting in your own head. You know, if 1374 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 12: you drop one, it's like no big deal. But all 1375 00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 12: of a sudden you drop another one and people start 1376 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 12: talking about it, then you're thinking about it. And I 1377 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 12: think the good news is for Amri like to get 1378 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:07,080 Speaker 12: out of like a little bit of a slump like 1379 01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 12: that shouldn't be too hard because he's done it so 1380 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,320 Speaker 12: many times, it's easy for him from a mindset standpoint 1381 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 12: to just kind of reflect back at all the great 1382 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 12: catches and the reliability he's had throughout his career and say, 1383 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 12: don't worry about it. I'm not that guy that drops footballs. 1384 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 12: I don't have to think about it. I am the 1385 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 12: guy that makes those big plays, that makes those hard catches, 1386 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 12: and just kind of getting back into that confident mindset. 1387 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,480 Speaker 12: I think going into the week of practice will be 1388 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 12: huge for him, and I think his his mindset is 1389 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 12: laid back, real quiet demeanor will really help too, right 1390 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,240 Speaker 12: because if your guy that runs hot all the time, 1391 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 12: you can go on these streaks of good catches and 1392 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 12: then you can go in these streaks or you just 1393 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 12: can't catch anything. So I'm not worried about a Mari 1394 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 12: at all, and it's just a matter of making a 1395 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 12: play and having that opportunity one more time next week 1396 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 12: or maybe even in practice it makes a big play, 1397 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 12: and all of a sudden, he's not thinking about it anymore, 1398 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 12: and he's going out and he's the same old a 1399 01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 12: Marii Cooper all right. 1400 01:00:58,320 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 9: From a star on offense, I'll talk about a star 1401 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,959 Speaker 9: on defense, Miles Garrett. And my question to you, Hoff 1402 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 9: is simply this, At what point in your career, if 1403 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 9: any were you allowed to just tackle somebody who had 1404 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 9: gotten around you five times in a game and not 1405 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 9: draw one flag. Now, nobody will get around with you 1406 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 9: five times in a game. 1407 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 12: But nonetheless it doesn't make sense. It's really it's something 1408 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 12: that is a reoccurring theme in the poor guy's career. 1409 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 12: And you know, part of it's because he's so every 1410 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:29,080 Speaker 12: you know, I wonder if they're like man just subconsciously. Yeah, 1411 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,080 Speaker 12: jeezs we throw a flag every time this guy's out 1412 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,040 Speaker 12: on the field getting blocked. It's going to be every play, 1413 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 12: because he does get held, just on almost every play. 1414 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 12: The way he bends and turns the corner, a good 1415 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 12: block where you got your hands right on his chest 1416 01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 12: and his shoulder, all of a sudden he dips the 1417 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,920 Speaker 12: way he's not supposed to humans. They're not supposed to 1418 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 12: be able to bend like that at that size, and 1419 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 12: now your hands are in a bad position and your 1420 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 12: feet or beat and you're falling on him. So it 1421 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 12: happens a lot. And I don't know why they're not 1422 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 12: calling you. I mean the one that I'm thinking about. 1423 01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,160 Speaker 12: I can't remember exactly the situation, but he literally was 1424 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 12: tackled right in front of the referee. And I'm thinking, 1425 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 12: there's no way they didn't call that. There's no way 1426 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 12: they didn't throw it. It doesn't make sense. It's it's challenging. 1427 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 12: And I laughed this morning, you know, watching the end 1428 01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 12: of the Kansas City Cincinnati game, of course, controversy and 1429 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 12: NFL everyone thinks, oh, the refs are in the Chiefs 1430 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 12: back pocket because on that pass interference at the end 1431 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 12: of the game, which was past interference by the way, 1432 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,160 Speaker 12: there should have been a holding. And they took a 1433 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,080 Speaker 12: screenshot of you know, one of the defensive linemen just 1434 01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 12: starting to run sideways to pursue Deshan, and youve got 1435 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 12: the offensive lineman who's got his hands right inside on 1436 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 12: the shoulder pads, but there's a tiny tug of the 1437 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 12: jersey which is blocking the feet were not beat. He's 1438 01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,400 Speaker 12: got his hands right where they should be. Yeah, the 1439 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 12: jersey got tugged just a little bit, but that's not holding. 1440 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 12: But what they're doing the Miles is holding every single time. 1441 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,360 Speaker 12: It's not even textbook holding. You're just tackling the dude. 1442 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,680 Speaker 12: So I don't know what they have to do. I'm 1443 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 12: sure they've tried everything, but I mean, maybe the NFL 1444 01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 12: needs to have, honestly, like a sky judge. I know 1445 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 12: they've got assistance from New York, but maybe they need 1446 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,520 Speaker 12: to have some assistance on the offensive and defensive lines. 1447 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,520 Speaker 12: If the refs continue to tell us that it's happening 1448 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 12: too quickly to be able to get the calls right consistently, 1449 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,439 Speaker 12: well then let's have somebody who's up in New York, 1450 01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 12: who's watching those players, who can quickly rewind it and 1451 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 12: buzz down to the official and say, look, that was 1452 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 12: a bad one. You missed it. You know, maybe just 1453 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,440 Speaker 12: the bad ones. Obviously you don't want to have them 1454 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 12: nitpick every single play, but like the ones like that, 1455 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,560 Speaker 12: you just absolutely have no excuse for missing it. 1456 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 7: It's what happened to Shaquille O'Neill, what happened to Lebron James. 1457 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 7: When you are so much bigger, faster and stronger than 1458 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 7: anybody else. Refence, This isn't fair, but it's the reality. 1459 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 2: Not good. 1460 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 7: Call a foul on whoever was guarding Shaquille O'Neil on 1461 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 7: every single play. But because you see it over and 1462 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 7: over again, you're like, well, I can't call it every time, 1463 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 7: and I think that's what's happened into Miles. Same thing 1464 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,720 Speaker 7: with Lebron when he goes to the rim. He gets 1465 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 7: fouled every time he goes to the rim. He gets 1466 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 7: hammered every time, but they can't put himTo the line 1467 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,840 Speaker 7: every time. And that's the same thing here. Their view 1468 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 7: of it has to be God almighty call holding every 1469 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 7: time against Miles. You can't go too Sometimes I agree, 1470 01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 7: but like that's what it is. It It sucks that 1471 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 7: that our guy is the one that's getting the brunt 1472 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 7: of it, but it's the same thing. It reminds me 1473 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,480 Speaker 7: so much of trying to officiate Shaquille or trying to 1474 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,959 Speaker 7: officiate Lebron. It's just wild, No, it's just it sucks. 1475 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:18,480 Speaker 2: It's wild. 1476 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 9: And then and haff I'm sure you've seen the viral 1477 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 9: video of obo Ocuronquo bull rushing the right tackle and 1478 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,520 Speaker 9: putting him on his keyster and a close examination shows 1479 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,000 Speaker 9: that he it was a combination of a bull rush 1480 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 9: and him tripping on his running back and put him 1481 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 9: off bounds. But those are That's a tough one for 1482 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 9: an offensive lineman right half, when you're you get you 1483 01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,120 Speaker 9: get tripped by your running back coming out, and that 1484 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 9: also leads to you getting tossed around like a ragnall. 1485 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 12: Yeah, that one feels bad, especially because you know what 1486 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 12: happened and you want to like kind of explain to 1487 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 12: the dude on defense, like you didn't really beat me. 1488 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,479 Speaker 12: I got tripped, But in that moment, it doesn't really matter. 1489 01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 12: I mean, I've met that happen a lot from running backs, 1490 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 12: and you can be sure that there was some st 1491 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,640 Speaker 12: conversations when we got back to the huddle, like, Bro, 1492 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,520 Speaker 12: you ever do that again, there's gonna be problems. We 1493 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,360 Speaker 12: were fighting on the field in the huddle. On the 1494 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 12: next play, stay the heck away from me. I do 1495 01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 12: not need your help, and I certainly don't need you 1496 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,280 Speaker 12: tripping me when I'm trying to stop a bull rush 1497 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 12: from a linebacker. 1498 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,280 Speaker 2: Off. 1499 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 9: In another kind of a funny moment, we've got a 1500 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 9: quote today from Jerome Ford that Jameis Winston in the 1501 01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 9: huddle calls plays like he has like a secret or 1502 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 9: a surprise to share with you, which is such a 1503 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 9: great description and I can completely envision it happening. Was 1504 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,640 Speaker 9: there anybody in your career and you had so many 1505 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 9: various humans in that huddle calling place for you that 1506 01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 9: you have not had an unbelievable delivery or a unique 1507 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 9: delivery or a funny delivery. 1508 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 12: They all were really unique. I mean when Hoyer would 1509 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 12: come into the huddle, he was like screaming at Everybody'd 1510 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,320 Speaker 12: be okay, listen, you know. He like so he watched 1511 01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 12: Brady and he always would come in and have that 1512 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 12: command where he was just trying to grab your attention. 1513 01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:02,800 Speaker 12: But when the Navy Seals worked with us, I never 1514 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:07,480 Speaker 12: forget one of the guys who'd been training seals as 1515 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 12: like a Navy Seal command or whatever for a long time. 1516 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 12: He always said, I never yelled my guys, and I 1517 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,160 Speaker 12: actually talk quieter because if I talk quieter, they have 1518 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,360 Speaker 12: to listen more intently. They can't just sit there and 1519 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 12: toe me out. And so I guess I haven't been 1520 01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,720 Speaker 12: in the huddle with Jamis, but I can see that 1521 01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 12: if you're doing something a little different, maybe you're a 1522 01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:27,920 Speaker 12: little quieter, maybe you're a little bit more poignant with 1523 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 12: your cadence of how you deliver those plays, like you're 1524 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 12: grabbing their attention, and I love it. Right, you got 1525 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 12: to do something different to make sure that those dudes 1526 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 12: are listening. It's like talking to your kids. If you're 1527 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,520 Speaker 12: always talk in the same voice, if you're always yelling, 1528 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,320 Speaker 12: they tune you out real quick. But all of a sudden, 1529 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 12: you talk quietly or then you raise your voice really quickly, 1530 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,680 Speaker 12: and you get into their little like comfort area within 1531 01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 12: like three feet. All of a sudden, now they're paying attention. 1532 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 12: So I think it's great. It's you know, high level 1533 01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 12: emotional intelligence to be such a wizard way in the huddle, 1534 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 12: like Jameis Winston is. 1535 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,080 Speaker 7: All right, let's hand out some game balls on this 1536 01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 7: victory Monday. We'll start on offense off Who gets your 1537 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 7: offense of game ball? 1538 01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 12: Well, I got to give it to Deshaun Watson. I mean, 1539 01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,720 Speaker 12: I think it was the best performance, maybe not statistically, 1540 01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 12: but certainly from a decision making and confidence standpoint that 1541 01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 12: he's had. And I think from the very first drive 1542 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 12: that was what everybody was watching, not just the fans, 1543 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,840 Speaker 12: Don't get me wrong, fans were watching it, but the 1544 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 12: players were watching right because they wanted to see what 1545 01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 12: version of this song Deshaun Watson is going to be 1546 01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,840 Speaker 12: out there? Was he going to be able to shake 1547 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,600 Speaker 12: off poor performance from week one and all the controversy 1548 01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 12: and conversation that had surrounded last week. And he did 1549 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,360 Speaker 12: it right, And I think that built the confidence in 1550 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:38,400 Speaker 12: the team seeing that performance in the first drive, especially 1551 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 12: the first quarter, and it built the confidence and them like, hey, yeah, 1552 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,240 Speaker 12: we got this. If I do my job, then I 1553 01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,080 Speaker 12: know that he's going to do his job and we're 1554 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,280 Speaker 12: going to win this game. And for a professional, that's 1555 01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 12: a great feeling to have, right. I've been in plenty 1556 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:52,120 Speaker 12: of situations where I'm like watching the quarterback and I'm going, 1557 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:53,919 Speaker 12: it doesn't really matter what I do in this game, 1558 01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,800 Speaker 12: We're going to lose. You know, I have the opposite 1559 01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,880 Speaker 12: of that as a professional is awesome, right, Feeling like 1560 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,160 Speaker 12: you have control over the game, maybe not necessarily individually, 1561 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 12: Hey I'm gonna score the winning touchdown, but like, hey, 1562 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 12: if I do my job, we're gonna win this scene 1563 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 12: because that Duce got it. 1564 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,840 Speaker 9: Today all right, I'm gonna give my offensive game ball 1565 01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 9: to Jerry Judy. Six targets, five catches, seventy three yards 1566 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 9: to lead the team, and he was open all game long. 1567 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,080 Speaker 9: There were a couple opportunities had the protection held up, 1568 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 9: where there could have been some big plays down the field. 1569 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 2: Judy since coming in and. 1570 01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 9: Being kind of rewarded and treated like he was going 1571 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 9: to be, you know, a number one a type receiver, 1572 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,679 Speaker 9: I think he has looked that part for the Cleveland Browns. 1573 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,120 Speaker 9: I'm very excited about Jerry Judy. I thought he had 1574 01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 9: an excellent game, all. 1575 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 2: Right, hof Defensively, who gets your game ball? 1576 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,559 Speaker 12: Well, you're giving me the first crack at it, I'm 1577 01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,520 Speaker 12: going miles get Obviously, he is the guy that impacts 1578 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,640 Speaker 12: the play every single time. On defense. He had a 1579 01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 12: sack at TfL quarterback hit, but the way he was 1580 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 12: constantly putting pressure on Trevor Lawrence never allowed him to 1581 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,439 Speaker 12: get comfortably. You saw him planned all over the defensive 1582 01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 12: line again, so it made it challenging for them to 1583 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 12: try to figure out where he was going to be exactly. 1584 01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,240 Speaker 12: Towards the end of the game, they were keeping an 1585 01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 12: extra tight end to try to block for him, which 1586 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 12: takes one guy out of your passing route distribution and 1587 01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 12: puts stress less stress on the coverage when they've got 1588 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 12: only four receivers in the past concepts down the stretch 1589 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 12: when they're trying to move the ball down the field 1590 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 12: in late game situation to score and win. So I 1591 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 12: think he's the easy one again, right, Like, the guy 1592 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:27,559 Speaker 12: is just a beast, and he's following up his Defensive 1593 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,479 Speaker 12: Player of the Year performance with a very similar to 1594 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 12: start to the season. 1595 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 9: I'm going to go with Jordan Hicks, the Browns Mike linebacker. 1596 01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 9: J ok had a great game, couple tackles for lost delpit. 1597 01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 9: I thought had a great game. Alex Wright had that 1598 01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 9: massive sack for you at the end. But I liked Hicks. 1599 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,200 Speaker 9: He kind of was everywhere making tackles. He had a sack, 1600 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,840 Speaker 9: he had a tackle for a loss, he had two 1601 01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:51,840 Speaker 9: quarterback hits, he had two passes defense in coverage. That's 1602 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,600 Speaker 9: just what you want from that position, right, Can you 1603 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 9: play the run, can he help me win? You blitz, 1604 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,080 Speaker 9: and can you play in coverage? And he checked all 1605 01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 9: three of those boxes, And I thought that was a 1606 01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,000 Speaker 9: very good game for him, all Right. 1607 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 7: Joe we've got big weekend, alumni weekend. Phil Dawson going 1608 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 7: into the Legends Club Giants here at one o'clock. Do 1609 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 7: you have any any favorite Phil Dawson stories you can 1610 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:11,760 Speaker 7: tell us. 1611 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 12: I mean, Phil just the commensured professional, what an amazing leader. 1612 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 12: I remember early on in my career we were going 1613 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:26,559 Speaker 12: through some you know, struggles to win, and you would 1614 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,680 Speaker 12: never think the kicker is going to stay anything worthwhile 1615 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 12: in some of these players' only type meetings. But he 1616 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,240 Speaker 12: gave us a really awesome sort of fighting motto for 1617 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 12: the season that it's something that sticks with me right 1618 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,120 Speaker 12: when I think about Phil Dawson, And he talked about 1619 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 12: in the Civil War, how there was one guy that 1620 01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 12: was in charge of carrying the flag when you go 1621 01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 12: into battle, right, and you wouldn't think it was an 1622 01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 12: important position, but back then it really was right because 1623 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,800 Speaker 12: that was sort of like for the unit as you're 1624 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 12: going and you're marching, you know, to slaughter basically in 1625 01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 12: Civil War, like just two lines of people walking at 1626 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 12: each other and shooting muskets. But he talked about that 1627 01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 12: position and how it was so important to have that 1628 01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,640 Speaker 12: flag because when you're fighting, you look over and you 1629 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 12: see the flag and you could have that confidence and 1630 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,800 Speaker 12: it gave you a boost emotionally, physically, spiritually when you're 1631 01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 12: in that situation. And so he talked about on the team, 1632 01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 12: like when we're going through struggles, adversity, trying times, whether 1633 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 12: it be a game or a season, who's going to 1634 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 12: be that person that carries the flag for the team? 1635 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,680 Speaker 12: And if that person can't do it anymore, who's going 1636 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:29,680 Speaker 12: to be the next person that walks in there? Right 1637 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 12: civil war, that guy gets shot knocked off his horse, 1638 01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 12: who's going to be the person that picks up that flag, 1639 01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,040 Speaker 12: picks up their teammates and continues that march forward. And 1640 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,800 Speaker 12: it was a really important speech. I thought it was 1641 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 12: really heartfelt from Phil like they usually are. Well because 1642 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,160 Speaker 12: we actually had like a brown flag. I think we 1643 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 12: all signed it and we brought out and it was 1644 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 12: sort of the rallying cry there for us that rest 1645 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 12: of that season, kind of like, hey, when things are tough, 1646 01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 12: who's going to be that person that stands up and 1647 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 12: carries the flag for that team? And if that person 1648 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 12: gets knocked down, who's the next person. I think it 1649 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 12: was something that really brought the team together. Now, it 1650 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,959 Speaker 12: was our first super Bowl victory that year, so obviously 1651 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 12: the speeches and the flag carry analogy worked very well. 1652 01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,200 Speaker 12: But no, just kidding. We did not make the playoffs 1653 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 12: that year, but it was still a great and that's 1654 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,799 Speaker 12: what I think about what I think about Bill Dawson, 1655 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,559 Speaker 12: the man and the leader in the football player. 1656 01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 7: You were in the snow game against Buffalo, right, Hoff, yep, seven? Yeah, 1657 01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 7: I mean that I was at that game in the Sands. 1658 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:30,920 Speaker 7: It was young off rookie year Hoff. 1659 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1660 01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:32,759 Speaker 12: I mean like, yeah exactly. 1661 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,559 Speaker 2: It was like, could anybody kick it through there? Yeah? 1662 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,120 Speaker 2: Phil could? 1663 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:37,960 Speaker 11: Oh? 1664 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,280 Speaker 12: Man? I remember that game was so cool because obviously 1665 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,439 Speaker 12: it was safety. Two field goals won the game and 1666 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 12: Buffalo scored nothing. It was so cool watching Shill line 1667 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,120 Speaker 12: up the siel goals that he made because he was 1668 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 12: legitimately aiming out of bounds on the sideline, like. 1669 01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 2: The wind was. 1670 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,599 Speaker 12: Coming so hard that it was like if you have 1671 01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,559 Speaker 12: a terrible Caddy act dot cook or a slice and 1672 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,880 Speaker 12: you're just aiming to the sideline and you put the 1673 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,920 Speaker 12: ball in the air and it would just the wind 1674 01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,360 Speaker 12: would just grab that football and just poss it directly 1675 01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:12,360 Speaker 12: the other way. And the fact that he was able 1676 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 12: to put two through the uprights in a game in 1677 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,519 Speaker 12: those conditions, not only the wind, but you got seven 1678 01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 12: inches of snow on the field, So it's not like 1679 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 12: you really have great footing. It just to me gave 1680 01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 12: you everything you need to know about his ability to 1681 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 12: focus in challenging situations, and really that's what being a 1682 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,040 Speaker 12: kicker is all about. Anybody can kick the ball far, 1683 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,679 Speaker 12: that's a kicker in the NFL. But the great ones 1684 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 12: are able to focus when you're dealing with seven inches 1685 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 12: of snow and forty miles an hour wind and thirty 1686 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,479 Speaker 12: degree temperatures and finding a way to focus on the 1687 01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,639 Speaker 12: tiniest little details to put the ball where it needs 1688 01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,360 Speaker 12: to be and to do your job to get the victory. 1689 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 9: And he was able to do those things in an 1690 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 9: era where I mean, I don't know if you were 1691 01:13:54,479 --> 01:14:00,360 Speaker 9: watching around the league this week, it's definitely a layup. 1692 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 9: It fifteen nine yards is just like right down the middle. 1693 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,439 Speaker 9: It's crazy how good these guys are. Phil Dawson had 1694 01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 9: that kind of talent in a different era clearly, and 1695 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,960 Speaker 9: was definitely a very very special kicker. But I just 1696 01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,800 Speaker 9: watched Lake Tarico said it last night and the Sunday 1697 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 9: night came, he goes a fifty five yard would you 1698 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,200 Speaker 9: even think of trying it? And now it's it's expected 1699 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 9: that it's gonna go. Yesterday in the in the sincy 1700 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 9: KC game, they basically stopped playing offense, and we're totally 1701 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 9: content to have Harrison Buffer coming to. 1702 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 2: Kick a fifty one. 1703 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,360 Speaker 7: They didn't care, Like, why aren't they getting closer? 1704 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 2: They have mahomes. They're like, no, we're good. They didn't care. 1705 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:43,080 Speaker 7: Fifty one go crazy, crazy, lightoff, good stuff, buddy, always 1706 01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,160 Speaker 7: a picture, great doctory Monday. 1707 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:46,680 Speaker 2: By the way, did you get the image of the 1708 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:47,400 Speaker 2: picture we use? 1709 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 7: I sent it to you of of on the utube stream. 1710 01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:55,200 Speaker 2: How how formidableer you are? Oh? Man? Quite? What's that 1711 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 2: from you Discovery Show? 1712 01:14:58,240 --> 01:14:59,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, you look like you're ready to go like that 1713 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 9: get when I was Dangerous Cat? Or yeah, what's this 1714 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 9: picture from huff. 1715 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,840 Speaker 12: Honestly, I have no idea. I would love was a 1716 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,479 Speaker 12: Gibbie that found it, because I would love to where 1717 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 12: he found it, because I'm like, hey man, that looked 1718 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 12: pretty tough. I'm gonna have to start us. 1719 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 2: I mean the school put it on a T shirt, 1720 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:18,720 Speaker 2: I mean I wear it. 1721 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 12: And he's like that don't handle me. What I was 1722 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,080 Speaker 12: in Germany, we had at our school all the parents 1723 01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,880 Speaker 12: had to get little badges, so you had to like 1724 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,720 Speaker 12: send in the headshot, you know, like if you join 1725 01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:31,800 Speaker 12: a close or whatever, you gotta send him that shot. 1726 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,880 Speaker 12: And I usually do something goofy because that's just how 1727 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,080 Speaker 12: I am. Uh, And so I I dressed up in 1728 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,599 Speaker 12: my traditional Bavarian outfit with the hat and the leader 1729 01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 12: hose and everything, and I sent that picture. My auntie 1730 01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,680 Speaker 12: was like, you're such a bozo, like nobody does it, 1731 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,439 Speaker 12: Like I'm so embarrassed by you. But now I want 1732 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,280 Speaker 12: to use that phone or whatever I go, especially the 1733 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,720 Speaker 12: point I'm like pointing at somebody like I'm really mad 1734 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:54,400 Speaker 12: at Yeah. 1735 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 2: You're giving them. I don't want to be on the 1736 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,840 Speaker 2: other side of that posture. 1737 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 10: I can tell you it actually came from the Great 1738 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,360 Speaker 10: Jesus himself, Matt Starkey, when Hoff was filming the playoff 1739 01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 10: video last year. 1740 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,320 Speaker 9: In the fog at the stadium. Sure, so we can 1741 01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,320 Speaker 9: get you that copy. 1742 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, you look great, buddy. 1743 01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:18,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, great, chatting with you guys. 1744 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 2: YouTube give it. 1745 01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 7: Give a little speech to fickle in the boys. 1746 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:22,920 Speaker 2: They may need it. After that one. 1747 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 12: Oh, that one hurt a little bit. I'm I'm not 1748 01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:27,120 Speaker 12: sure where I am right now. 1749 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 2: Luke's my guy. 1750 01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,240 Speaker 7: That was rough, all right, Hoff, We'll talk to you buddy. 1751 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:35,880 Speaker 12: All right, guys, I have a great day. 1752 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 10: We'll see it. 1753 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 7: That's the Joe Thomas half hour of the program. Gets 1754 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 7: your great clips. Clip of the game coming up next. 1755 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:43,920 Speaker 7: We didn't you and I haven't really talked too much 1756 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,880 Speaker 7: about the defense. We'll talk about that as well. You 1757 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 7: mentioned j Okay and Del but those guys are flying 1758 01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,680 Speaker 7: around like missiles. We'll get to that still as well. 1759 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 7: You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by 1760 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,439 Speaker 7: bally Bet Sports Bending part in your Cleveland Browns Alive 1761 01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 7: in Ohio and eight fifty yesp in Cleveland. 1762 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Land Browns Daily brought to you by Ballely bed Now 1763 01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,360 Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1764 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 5: DeShawn is under center, Judy in motion on the lap 1765 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 5: of Elijah's on that side as well, play fake in 1766 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,800 Speaker 5: a deep drup DeShawn loading up, going deep, Jerry Jon 1767 01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:15,400 Speaker 5: He's got it. 1768 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 4: Jack Wars's territory knocked at a. 1769 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:22,000 Speaker 5: Bounds at the thirty six yard line. 1770 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 7: Browns fans enter hunting to bank Field quicker on game 1771 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,200 Speaker 7: day with express access presented by Verizon. Also knew this 1772 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 7: year's select Concussion concession stands will offer express access presented 1773 01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,439 Speaker 7: by bud Light and Roll for free today. Go to 1774 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 7: the tickets stab in the Browns mobile app to learn More's. 1775 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,600 Speaker 9: There's the pick, so he's got for those watching that, 1776 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 9: he's the scoreboard behind him across the field he's up 1777 01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,640 Speaker 9: on I see, yeah, and there it is. 1778 01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 7: Okay, I never picked up on the I just now 1779 01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 7: I see the scoreboard behind him, right, yeah? 1780 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 2: Great? God, I mean he just lay formidable, isn't he 1781 01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,799 Speaker 2: looks great? Man looks sensation. 1782 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 9: Between his video and and the great Jim Donovan video 1783 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 9: for the playoffs, we really had really set the table 1784 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:07,560 Speaker 9: for a pretty epic. 1785 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 2: Run that unfortunately did not materialize. 1786 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,120 Speaker 7: No, still still incredible though, And uh, that is fantastic. 1787 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,120 Speaker 7: Time for your great clips. Great clip of the game, 1788 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 7: great clips, It's gonna be great. Here is Andrews Ciciliano 1789 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,679 Speaker 7: and z on the Alex right. 1790 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 5: Here's the snap back pressure Alex Wright's got him and 1791 01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,120 Speaker 5: throws them out of the back of the end zone safety. 1792 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:30,360 Speaker 10: I love. 1793 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,200 Speaker 2: That was just great. 1794 01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,280 Speaker 10: Out of the back of the end zone safety. 1795 01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 2: Yes, that was good. That was and at that point 1796 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 2: we thought the game was over. I did too. At 1797 01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 2: that point, did we know? 1798 01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 7: That's when I got up and I said, we gotta 1799 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,200 Speaker 7: we gotta make a We gotta make a big box 1800 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 7: store hardware run. Tried the local guys in what I needed, 1801 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 7: so we had to make a run and I so 1802 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 7: we hop in the car and then it's like, well, 1803 01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:55,679 Speaker 7: wait a second, they got the ball back. 1804 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,160 Speaker 2: What did I miss? 1805 01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 7: They hear you guys talking almost on defense against them 1806 01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 7: to go back inside to watch, like what the hell? 1807 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 12: Man? 1808 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, not it was not great. I do like that. 1809 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,720 Speaker 9: Alex Wright was like, since we did win, it was 1810 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,360 Speaker 9: a walk off, will count it as a walk off? 1811 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, it just became a little more dramatic 1812 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:12,800 Speaker 2: than it needed to be. 1813 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 10: Perhaps the highlight will be because we had a go 1814 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 10: pro in the booth. So there's a couple of clips 1815 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:20,720 Speaker 10: that were putting out. 1816 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,600 Speaker 9: Oh man, I haven't seen any of these, but the 1817 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 9: fact imagine there is. 1818 01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,920 Speaker 10: There is a meme being developed content or production team 1819 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:35,800 Speaker 10: of who of you sitting on the steps despondent? Okay, yeah, 1820 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:36,800 Speaker 10: we're winning. 1821 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:41,440 Speaker 7: But urban eating pizza level of despondent. 1822 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,799 Speaker 10: Yes, you're on the slack channel. 1823 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 2: I believe was it was it? 1824 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 7: I can't download anymore these sharing talking with people apps. 1825 01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,160 Speaker 7: Joined slack joint somebody else on our fantasy league. They're like, 1826 01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,559 Speaker 7: why won't you join some other thing? And I'm like, 1827 01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 7: how's this different than a text chain? This is just 1828 01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,800 Speaker 7: one more thing I got to open. Isn't the same? 1829 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:07,679 Speaker 7: What's the difference? 1830 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,680 Speaker 2: Right? Just text me, just text me. I'm done with it, 1831 01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,479 Speaker 2: I'm over There? Is it in video? Gibbe? 1832 01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:14,160 Speaker 10: I believe it was in video? 1833 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:18,400 Speaker 7: What did so on television? There were it looked like 1834 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 7: thousands of empty seats. Go ahead and put that up 1835 01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 7: were there were there thousands? 1836 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 2: What are we putting up on the YouTube feed? 1837 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 6: Here? 1838 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 2: We've got to tell the people what we're doing. 1839 01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,040 Speaker 10: We have the picture of Zigura throw we're working through. 1840 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 9: This is me, Yeah, this is this is definitely when 1841 01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,800 Speaker 9: it's tense, and I'm like, another penalty. 1842 01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,799 Speaker 10: There was a room for a chair for Zigura. 1843 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:44,720 Speaker 7: So we literally, oh cheez, just contemplating lives. 1844 01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,000 Speaker 2: Many challenges. 1845 01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 9: Help help me out here, help me out By the 1846 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,120 Speaker 9: way we are, I think we have been remiss, although 1847 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 9: I think we may have mentioned in the first hour 1848 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,160 Speaker 9: we have Corey Bojorkez needed to get a game ball. 1849 01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,320 Speaker 2: I thought there was gonna be a bonus game. 1850 01:20:57,360 --> 01:20:58,680 Speaker 7: We're running out of time and I had to get 1851 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,679 Speaker 7: the filled aucin chat in again or fair stories on that. 1852 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 2: But I would say Corey bar just has to get 1853 01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:05,080 Speaker 2: a game. 1854 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,160 Speaker 7: If he hits that punt one hundred times, how many 1855 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:12,320 Speaker 7: times does it bounce do ninety degrees right the way 1856 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 7: that it did? 1857 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:13,439 Speaker 10: Few? 1858 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:14,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1859 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,040 Speaker 9: I talked to him about it after the game and 1860 01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,679 Speaker 9: he was like, I thought it was one of his 1861 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 9: better punts ever that He's like, I wish I could 1862 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,879 Speaker 9: do that with my with my wedges. 1863 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wish I could do with my wedges. 1864 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,479 Speaker 7: It's something where you if you get a chance to 1865 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:31,040 Speaker 7: talk this week, I'd be interested, like, is there a 1866 01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,800 Speaker 7: certain way that he can kick it to get it 1867 01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 7: to try to attempt it to spit? 1868 01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:35,680 Speaker 2: Like Cole could answer that question for us. 1869 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 9: I'm sure the answer is yes, but it still depends 1870 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 9: on so many things, how so many factors because it 1871 01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,680 Speaker 9: has to be the way the ball must contact the 1872 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,840 Speaker 9: ground in the exact way that you're trying to do it. 1873 01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,960 Speaker 9: Which obviously they're very good at doing that. But you know, 1874 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:50,960 Speaker 9: think about it, if the ball had to hit kind 1875 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 9: of probably like this, kind of at this angle to 1876 01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:55,200 Speaker 9: come back this way, and if you know it had 1877 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,480 Speaker 9: been rotatous a little more, it's going that way. So yeah, 1878 01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 9: it's I think, yes, they are able to They have 1879 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 9: the ability to try to control how it contacts the ground, 1880 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 9: but that is a very difficult thing to do. 1881 01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 7: Very I want to ask you guys about it seemed 1882 01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,679 Speaker 7: like on television that there were a ton of empty 1883 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 7: seats in the upper bowl. 1884 01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:17,120 Speaker 2: Was that accurate? 1885 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 3: Yes? 1886 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 2: What the hell's going on? I'd say upper bowl fifty? 1887 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,040 Speaker 2: Was it was the weather that bad? Or was it? 1888 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,479 Speaker 9: No, it's not a lot of juice for the Jags, 1889 01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 9: I guess in the stadium it's it's a bad stadium. 1890 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 7: It is, but it's not like it's hard to get to. 1891 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 2: No, it's easy to get to. Very's near population. It's 1892 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:35,280 Speaker 2: week two. 1893 01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:41,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, they have Trevor Lawrence and MEVASETI And. 1894 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,840 Speaker 10: How was Trevor Bank Stadium? How do you know? I mean, 1895 01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 10: maybe that screwed everybody. 1896 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,519 Speaker 2: I think we talked about Josh Eines Allen, you had 1897 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I don't get it either. I would. 1898 01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:53,000 Speaker 9: It was very surprising, and I would say probably Gibbe 1899 01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:53,519 Speaker 9: if you would. 1900 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 2: I'm curious. I thought maybe. 1901 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:59,320 Speaker 9: For every two Jags fans there was a Browns fan, 1902 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,599 Speaker 9: Like I think it was like at least thirty three Browns. 1903 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, upper Deck. It's more than that. 1904 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,599 Speaker 7: I just think, like if you're if you're shod Khan, 1905 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,719 Speaker 7: you have to like they're gonna do it. They're gonna 1906 01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:11,000 Speaker 7: put all that money, They're gonna. 1907 01:23:10,760 --> 01:23:12,639 Speaker 2: Get that city game. So you are in the same 1908 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,679 Speaker 2: city like game. It is the same. 1909 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,560 Speaker 9: They're building like kind of an exoskeleton, that's it. 1910 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,680 Speaker 7: It feels like I'm like, I don't know, Yeah, it 1911 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 7: looks nicer from the street, but once I get inside, 1912 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,120 Speaker 7: it's the same. So what's the difference, I think. I mean, 1913 01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 7: they're probably sure they're trying to do like Miami and 1914 01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 7: Buffalo where they have like the coverage for the rain. 1915 01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,240 Speaker 7: I'm sure that's what they're trying to do down there. 1916 01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:35,320 Speaker 7: But I think you're him like they were on the 1917 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 7: precipice of moving that thing like ten years ago to London, 1918 01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,360 Speaker 7: and that would if it's week two and you can't 1919 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,439 Speaker 7: sell it out. 1920 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guarantee it. 1921 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:49,080 Speaker 7: Like the Georgia Bulldogs played there, if they played there 1922 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,120 Speaker 7: on Sunday, it would have been full. If the Florida 1923 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:52,560 Speaker 7: Gators would have played there on Sunday, it would have 1924 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:52,840 Speaker 7: been full. 1925 01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,880 Speaker 10: Gators Marching Band was the halftime entertainment yesterday, right after 1926 01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 10: they got squorshed on Saturday. 1927 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:01,960 Speaker 2: US go over it. But I thought that was that 1928 01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 2: was crazy to me. Well, it was funny. 1929 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 10: Our spotder kept saying there it's always a late arriving crowd, 1930 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,640 Speaker 10: like they're gonna go to the bars first and then 1931 01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,680 Speaker 10: they're gonna come midway through the first quarter, like we 1932 01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 10: got to the end of the first quarter. I'm like, 1933 01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,240 Speaker 10: I don't think anybody else is coming today. 1934 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 2: No, wild They didn't even. 1935 01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:22,439 Speaker 9: And they were quiet until they got into it, kind 1936 01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,639 Speaker 9: of at the end when we gave gave a little 1937 01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 9: life to them. 1938 01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:29,599 Speaker 7: Sometimes I think when too much comes too soon, do 1939 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 7: you really appreciate what it's like to be good? 1940 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 2: Like they were really good right. 1941 01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,200 Speaker 7: Away with and Bnell and Fred Taylor Kean with a 1942 01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:40,719 Speaker 7: squad Biselli, those guys that was a squad and then 1943 01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 7: the cat Kyle Brady yep, yeah, no, they were good. 1944 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,880 Speaker 7: And and then they went to the Maurice Jones drew 1945 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,200 Speaker 7: like they were consistently like in the midst right left, 1946 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,640 Speaker 7: which was there for a little bit. Yeah, so just 1947 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,120 Speaker 7: I don't know. I just think it's crazy. It's weak. 1948 01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:59,240 Speaker 2: Two what are you doing? Get there? It was their 1949 01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,680 Speaker 2: home opener. They yeah, on the road, that's true. Yeah, 1950 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 2: home opener. 1951 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 10: We weren't even suret did we ever determine if they 1952 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:06,200 Speaker 10: had a flyover. 1953 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:07,799 Speaker 2: They did not have a flyover. 1954 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,400 Speaker 9: They had a like a couple of sparkling fireworks that 1955 01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:12,800 Speaker 9: would tell you what. 1956 01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,840 Speaker 7: Is going on that pool They do not that does 1957 01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 7: not need to be see through, Okay, do not need 1958 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,519 Speaker 7: to be see through. Just put a panel in front 1959 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,240 Speaker 7: of that thing, like fine, same asthetic for the people 1960 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,040 Speaker 7: in it, because why do I need this? I don't 1961 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:28,679 Speaker 7: want to see what's going on in there? 1962 01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,760 Speaker 2: And water, like glass to water distorts it. 1963 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,200 Speaker 7: So it looks not good. 1964 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,000 Speaker 2: That is not good. You know what is good? 1965 01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:41,240 Speaker 7: You mentioned this briefly, Joka and delpit our heat seeking missiles. Brother, Yes, 1966 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,479 Speaker 7: Joka with that guardian cap was flying around. I didn't quarter, 1967 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 7: so I wanted to say that. 1968 01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,639 Speaker 9: So I had been adamant that they cannot make people 1969 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,880 Speaker 9: wear these garment camps because it would look so ridiculous. 1970 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 2: You had to be real. 1971 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,720 Speaker 9: So in pregame warm ups, I noticed they were going 1972 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,040 Speaker 9: around with all the helmets that are used to take calls, 1973 01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 9: so whether that's the quarterback helmets or the green defense. Yeah, 1974 01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:02,720 Speaker 9: and one had a guardian cap on it, and I 1975 01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,599 Speaker 9: was like, that's weird. And then I thought I saw 1976 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:05,840 Speaker 9: on the back of it that it was number six, 1977 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,720 Speaker 9: and then sure enough it was j Okay, but no, 1978 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,680 Speaker 9: it didn't look any different. And if you played an 1979 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 9: entire game with them where they are colored like they 1980 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,160 Speaker 9: are designed like the helmet, I don't think anybody would do. 1981 01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 7: I think it helps because of our helmet. I think 1982 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,200 Speaker 7: it would be much more noticeable, like on the Raiders 1983 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,960 Speaker 7: or the Steelers or the Ravens when you have a 1984 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:24,840 Speaker 7: logo on the side of the helmet. I think our 1985 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 7: helmet helps. My hunches is what will happen is there 1986 01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,680 Speaker 7: will be helmet technology that does the exact same thing 1987 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 7: as a guardian. There are and that's what Miles was wearing, 1988 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:33,719 Speaker 7: that there are ones. 1989 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 9: That there are helmets that you can wear that in 1990 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 9: those positions where you don't even have to wear a 1991 01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 9: guardian cap in practice because the helmet is that good. 1992 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1993 01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 7: So I think what you'll see is that will become 1994 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,800 Speaker 7: the norm. I don't think this will become the norm 1995 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,160 Speaker 7: where guardian caps become the norm. I think that you'll 1996 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 7: just see more guys transition there. 1997 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,080 Speaker 9: There is one guy on there's an offensive line of 1998 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 9: Pittsburgh Steelers. 1999 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,160 Speaker 7: Who wears it so left or right guard and it. 2000 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,240 Speaker 9: Doesn't look crazy. It looks better on the side without 2001 01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:57,679 Speaker 9: the logo. 2002 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,200 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah it it looks different and on 2003 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,800 Speaker 7: with the logoed helmets. For us, it's I didn't notice 2004 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 7: it until probably second quarter. 2005 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:04,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2006 01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 7: I was like, oh, a little bit, a little bit 2007 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 7: like dark helmet, but not bad. 2008 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:08,320 Speaker 2: He'll take it. 2009 01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,880 Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's less ridiculous looking than those giant hats. 2010 01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:14,599 Speaker 7: Steve Tasker was at it. 2011 01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:15,640 Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, He's were like. 2012 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:19,640 Speaker 7: A double double helmet that he had that really had it. Yeah, No, 2013 01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,120 Speaker 7: I I agree. 2014 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:22,000 Speaker 2: All right. 2015 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,040 Speaker 7: Uh, still so much more to come, including a Monday 2016 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 7: night score that the boys needed. 2017 01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,120 Speaker 2: Baby, we need it, need it bigley. 2018 01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,519 Speaker 7: You listen to Cleveland runs daily on eight fifty ESPN. 2019 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:41,599 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Balley bed 2020 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,920 Speaker 1: Now Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESP and Cleveland. 2021 01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,840 Speaker 7: John z Girond Thursday Night, seventy eight for our second 2022 01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 7: Kevin Stevanci Show remote of the year. It's powered by 2023 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,679 Speaker 7: bud Light. 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Squaremy adapter? 2034 01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,679 Speaker 10: Falcons visiting fly. 2035 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,639 Speaker 9: Matter until now. Yeah, I'm gonna look at I'm gonna 2036 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 9: read your lips goad. 2037 01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,520 Speaker 10: Falcons visiting fly eagles. 2038 01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 2: Fly falcons visiting fly eagles fly. Let's go there you go, 2039 01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:39,000 Speaker 2: there you go? 2040 01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 10: What am I not on? 2041 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 2: You're in here? 2042 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,680 Speaker 7: He's having trouble his headsets up. 2043 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,320 Speaker 10: From Okay, well, bo can here, I can hear and 2044 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,679 Speaker 10: you can read my lips. I don't know why you're repeating. 2045 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:56,120 Speaker 7: Look at Bishop, this is what what's the line in 2046 01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 7: uh in the fugitive hanky? It's hanky. I don't know, 2047 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:01,280 Speaker 7: and he goes, I don't know what that means? What 2048 01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 7: tank you mean means? 2049 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:03,240 Speaker 2: Strange? Weird. 2050 01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:04,719 Speaker 7: That's the start of the NFL season. 2051 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 2: It's weird. 2052 01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:09,160 Speaker 7: It's strange, weird things have happened. I've overthought some things 2053 01:29:09,240 --> 01:29:11,519 Speaker 7: the first two weeks. I just think one of these 2054 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,479 Speaker 7: teams is good and the other one was really bad. 2055 01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:14,080 Speaker 2: In Week one. 2056 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:22,920 Speaker 7: Give me Philly, Give me Philly, twenty four seventeen, Philly, 2057 01:29:25,439 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 7: The signs Philly, The signs A. J. 2058 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,160 Speaker 2: Brown is now the sign. 2059 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 9: He's not playing, though he's There is no age, there 2060 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,240 Speaker 9: is no AJ Brown. This is sake one Barkley, though 2061 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,360 Speaker 9: there's a Saquon Barkley. I'll go same with you. I'll 2062 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,800 Speaker 9: take Eagles by twelve. But I don't feel good about 2063 01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 9: this one. This would be a stay away if I 2064 01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:44,440 Speaker 9: were allowed such things. 2065 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:47,080 Speaker 7: All Right, there you go, We are back tomorrow. The 2066 01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 7: next level is coming up next. Thanks for listener, Budy 2067 01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:50,839 Speaker 7: clevel Rod Daily eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 2068 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,479 Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Brown's Daily a production of 2069 01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,760 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns, and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland