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Speaker 2: Well, I will say, on the bright side of things,

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Speaker 2: I am happy to have you home and be more

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Speaker 2: prepared for a situation like this this time around. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm Kadeen and I'm Devout and we're the Ellis's.

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Speaker 3: You may know us from posting funny videos with.

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Speaker 2: Our boys and reading each other publicly as a form

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Speaker 2: of therapy.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I make you need therapy most days. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and one more important thing to mention, we're married.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, we are.

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Speaker 1: We created this podcast to open dialogue about some of

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Speaker 1: li's most taboo topics.

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Speaker 2: Things most folks don't want to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Through the lens of a millennial married couple. Dead ass

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Speaker 1: is a term that we say every day. So when

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Speaker 1: we say dead app that's we're actually saying facts one

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Speaker 1: hundred the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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Speaker 3: Were about to take Bilos off to our whole new level.

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Speaker 2: Dead ass starts right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take y'all back all the way back to

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Speaker 1: May May.

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Speaker 2: I always laugh when you say all the way back,

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Speaker 1: So no matter of fact, I'm gonna take y'all even

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take you back to April. April. I'm in Canada, Toronto.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're filming, filming a movie that I can't disclose

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Speaker 1: But we're filming, and I hear from Tyler Perry Studios

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Speaker 3: Approximately three weeks before we were supposed to start filming

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Speaker 1: Very simple for karaoke today, I'm gonna take you back

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Speaker 2: a silver lining around all that. So stay tuned. We're

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Speaker 1: The reason why strikes affect people, especially actors. And I

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, how many blockbuster movies.

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Speaker 1: So you have millions of people fighting for those eight positions.

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Speaker 1: It's a very limited space, but there's millions of people

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it's not the case.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes what happens is you get an opportunity, you work

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Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying. So where were we at

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Speaker 1: so let me save the rest of that. You don't

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Speaker 1: Our apartment now in New York goes for over four

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Speaker 3: Thirty thousand a year. Thirty thousand a year.

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Speaker 1: We had fifty eight left, thirty eight, so you have

444
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: twenty eight thousand dollars left for the year. You like,

445
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm good, right, I'm good. But now your show got canceled.

446
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: And now the following year you're trying to get onto

447
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 1: another show, and you don't get onto that show. But

448
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: you had twenty eight thousand dollars left, and you still

449
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: have to survive the next year because you auditioned. You auditioned,

450
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 1: and you didn't get picked up as another series regular. Yeah,

451
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe you did some guest star work. Guest star work

452
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: means you work two, maybe three episodes on the show,

453
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Speaker 1: But if you get top billing as a guest star,

454
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: you may get nine thousand per episode, and there's no

455
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: guarantee you get more than two or three episodes.

456
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Speaker 2: Remember, we had a friend who was on the show,

457
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,719
Speaker 2: and turns out his character recurred a couple I think,

458
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't know he was co star guest star, but

459
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: they made it so that, however many times he recurred

460
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: in the show, he had to come out to film

461
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Speaker 2: in Atlanta.

462
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: So this is what happened, and they're fighting against this, right,

463
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you I know you're talking about.

464
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Speaker 2: I don't want to out them, of course not, but

465
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Speaker 2: just the situation of somebody that got a job and

466
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Speaker 2: then had to stay with us to try to save

467
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: money because he couldn't even afford a hotel room to stay.

468
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Speaker 1: So this is how this is how hard actors are

469
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Speaker 1: working to just get opportunities. He was booked as a

470
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Speaker 1: recurring character. Right now, They didn't say a recurring guest star.

471
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Speaker 3: Just for people to.

472
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Speaker 1: Know, a guest star is someone who's a recurring guest star.

473
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Speaker 1: Guest star is someone who's going to be throughout the episodes,

474
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Speaker 1: maybe in about three or four scenes. Right, if you're

475
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 1: a co star, you're in one scene, right, maybe two,

476
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: and the second one ain't gonna have no lines.

477
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Speaker 3: You just be there, right.

478
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Speaker 1: They billed it as a recurring character, but they didn't

479
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Speaker 1: say a recurring guest star. So they build it as

480
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Speaker 1: a recurring You go when the audition, they say they

481
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: want local talent only. But you already know this if

482
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 1: you live in la and you know somebody who lives

483
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: in New York or Atlanta. Yo, can I borrow your

484
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: address so that I can use so I can just

485
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: get some work. I want to get some work. I

486
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: just want to get some credits so I can start

487
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Speaker 1: to build my resume.

488
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Speaker 2: Right, which is allowed. You're allowed to say that you're

489
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Speaker 2: willing to work as a local hire. So if I

490
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Speaker 2: get an audition for something that films in LA and

491
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Speaker 2: I really want to go for this, I live in Atlanta,

492
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Speaker 2: but I'll say I'm willing will as.

493
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Speaker 3: A local hier.

494
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Speaker 1: So what they'll tell you is bet you get booked

495
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Speaker 1: for the role. You find out that the role is

496
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Speaker 1: a recurring co star, not a recurring guest star, which

497
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Speaker 1: means you get the SAG minimum for a day player,

498
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Speaker 1: which is nine hundred dollars for the day. You're only

499
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: in that episode one day, but you have to be

500
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta for at least a week and a half

501
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Speaker 1: to go to pre prep, go through all your fittings,

502
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: go to a rehearsal, and then shoot. So now you

503
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: have to pay for your own hotel or you have

504
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: to pay for your own flight to get there because

505
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be what a local hire. You just

506
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: got paid nine hundred dollars to do this episode, but

507
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: you had to pay for your hotel.

508
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: I mean you had to pay for your air flare

509
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 3: there and back.

510
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Speaker 1: If your person gives you a place to stay cool,

511
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: you don't got to worry about hotel. But now you

512
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: got to eat for seven to ten days. So it

513
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: cost you more money to get this role than it

514
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: did for you to actually do the role. Like you

515
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: had to pay money to be on television.

516
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Speaker 2: There was no opportunity really other than just the opportunity.

517
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Speaker 1: But people watch you on this show every week because

518
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: you're a current co star and you have one scene

519
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: with one line.

520
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: So they think, oh, you're making money bro yep.

521
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: But you not.

522
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Speaker 1: And there's a lot there are a lot of actors

523
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Speaker 1: living that life and not for nothing. Kadeen and I

524
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: were living that life from two thousand and fourteen, which

525
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: is my thirtieth the year of my thirtieth birthday. That's

526
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: when I officially said to Kadeen. I said, Yo, I

527
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 1: am going to duplicate myself and I want to talk

528
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 1: a little bit about this. I'm going to duplicate myself

529
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: at the gym and teach people how to do my

530
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: job at the gym so that I can go on

531
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Speaker 1: more auditions, so I can fully invest in being an

532
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Speaker 1: actor full time. And that's what I did. You know

533
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I worked with Dolo Todolo. This is

534
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: how I worked with the kids. I hired Rick, I

535
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: hired Kamal. I ended up moving the gym from Aviator

536
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: to pack Plex, and I said, there's going to be

537
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: a fully fledged, full service gym. I'm just not going

538
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: to be the one doing all the service things so

539
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Speaker 1: that I can go do my auditions.

540
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Speaker 2: Yep.

541
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Speaker 1: Right from twenty fourteen to twenty and eighteen, I did

542
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Speaker 1: guest star work, I did commercials, and I did co

543
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: star work, but most of my money came from me

544
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: owning the gym. It didn't come from me being an actor.

545
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: So it was about four years that I was going

546
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: hard and I was making some money the commercials, really

547
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 1: good residual money, really really good residual money. And it

548
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: was a good balance because there were times when things

549
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 1: weren't going so great at the gym gym and I

550
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: had that act that we like you remember.

551
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 2: My seasons were new. But one thing I loved about you,

552
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: and this is something you taught me. Just about being

553
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: fiscally responsible is knowing when you get certain lump sums

554
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: of money how to disperse it. You know, and get

555
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 2: excited about the lump sums that come in and think

556
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: that we can have a field day with it, because

557
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 2: there are those dry seasons, especially when you're an entrepreneur.

558
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Speaker 1: So Kadeen and I, well, I made a promise to

559
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: Kadeena at once she was able to cut back freelance,

560
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: she would never have to go back to work full time.

561
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: That was my promise to her because as my wife,

562
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Speaker 1: I felt like she's dedicating herself and her body to

563
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Speaker 1: give us children. I have to be able to dedicate

564
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: something to her so that she can feel safe in

565
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: this space being able to cut back. Because imagine, just

566
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: imagine your career is based on you being physically able

567
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Speaker 1: to do it. Kadeen works in front of the camera, right,

568
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: but every time you get physically able to go and

569
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: do it, you get pregnant again.

570
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: Because we want to have more kid again and again.

571
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Speaker 1: And the only person that you can rely on to

572
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: make sure that you didn't care them is the father

573
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Speaker 1: of your children. A person who was asking you to

574
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: have more children, and that person is not holding up

575
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: their end of the bargain to make sure you're okay.

576
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: That can become stressful, sure for a woman, and I

577
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: just felt like it was my responsibility to do that.

578
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: And I appreciate that so much about you.

579
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: So when we were making a lot of money, when

580
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: the gym was hitting and TV was hitting at the

581
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: same time, and my nonprofit organization was hitting, and I

582
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: was able to just make, you know, lump sums of money,

583
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: I always told myself, I'm going to put money away

584
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: in groups of threes.

585
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: So if I made a.

586
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: Lump sum of money, all of our bills for the

587
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: next three months are going to be put to the

588
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: side first. So for example, our rent at the time

589
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: of the apartment was two thousand a month.

590
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 3: We had one car.

591
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: I would say the total car payments for everything was

592
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: about fifteen hundred dollars a month.

593
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: That's thirty five hundred.

594
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: The bills for the gym at the time were five

595
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month plus the employees employee salary, so

596
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 1: we're looking at eighty five hundred plus the employee salaries.

597
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: In additional twenty five hundred months, it was about twelve thousand

598
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: dollars a month. Every time I got a lump summer money,

599
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: I would take like a thirty six K. I was

600
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: just put it in the bank. And then if I

601
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: got another lump sum I was just putting it in

602
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: the bank. And before we knew it, we had a

603
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: truckload of money. But it was already accounted for. It

604
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: wasn't money that Kadeen and I could blows. It was

605
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: money so that it was like, yo, if we ever

606
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: get in a time where I'm not booking and the

607
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: gym is off, we at least got six months.

608
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: I remember you said.

609
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: Everything cover Like literally, I was like, yok, if we

610
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: don't make another dime after today, we're good for six months. Yes,

611
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: and that give it. That gave us some relief, yes, yes,

612
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: but it also was like, you know, there's a time

613
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: on that. So I ken pushing.

614
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: There's a reason why we did that, and we're going

615
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: to do a full podcast. The podcast is going to

616
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: be called how bad was it when we learned our lesson?

617
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: Because we had ran out of capitol and we had

618
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: did some things to actually get some capital, and no,

619
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: Kaneen wasn't stripping.

620
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: Contrary, it's the popular dumb ans. I was not stripping.

621
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: I didn't have an only fans, No, but it was.

622
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: Only fans, or at that time they might I might

623
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: have had some.

624
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: Content on that contemplating every day that's how do we

625
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: take this ship to the next level?

626
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: Facts?

627
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, facts, because when when Ridge is touching man and

628
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: you gotta eat grits every day, man, sometimes it's like, yo,

629
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: let me just do this real quick.

630
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: Facts.

631
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: But during that time, especially when when we were transitioning

632
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: from the NFL and building, I just learned so many

633
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: smart ways to make sure that money is accounted for.

634
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: And when this strike happened, Kadeen was like, yo, are

635
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: we going to be all right? And I was like,

636
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry.

637
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 2: Babe, it's about this is tight. My entire twenty almost

638
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: twenty one years with you. One thing I will say.

639
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: We've had ups, we've had downs, We've had moments within

640
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: our relationship like are we going to be together or not?

641
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: But there was nothing from a perspective of are we

642
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: going to be okay? Am I going to be okay? Okay?

643
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: I've never had to worry about that.

644
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: That's good today and I love.

645
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: And appreciate you, appreciate you so much for that because

646
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: it didn't matter if we were at odds, it didn't

647
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: matter where we were. We could not have been talking

648
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: to each other, sleeping separate rooms. But I never feared

649
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: that I was going to be left out to dry

650
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: or alone.

651
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 3: That makes me feel good.

652
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: I always wanted to make you feel safe, you know

653
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like that's and that's a very important

654
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: part of what we're talking about today, chasing your dreams

655
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: and feeling safe because you never know when a strike

656
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: is gonna come, or when you're going to get cut,

657
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: or when the industry is just going to be on

658
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: the downslope, you know. And it's important for people to

659
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: recognize that this can happen in any industry, you know.

660
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest, I never thought for a

661
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: second that there would be months because I haven't worked

662
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: since May currently, yes, currently, and in the past four years,

663
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Speaker 1: there has never been a three month stretch where I

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Speaker 1: haven't booked something. And that's that shout out to God

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Speaker 1: and the blessings he's given me. I have worked my

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Speaker 1: ass off for people who don't know. I'm not just

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Speaker 1: an Instagram or YouTube guy that wants to be an actor.

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Speaker 3: I am a trained actor.

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Speaker 1: I did a two year conservative store, two year conservatory

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Speaker 1: at Esper Studio.

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Speaker 3: I got my.

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Speaker 1: Bachelor's degree in speech Community. Yeah, r rip bill Man

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Speaker 1: william Esper to go. He was one of the creators

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Speaker 1: and masterminds behind the technique, and he's part of the

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Speaker 1: reason why I've been able to advance and do well

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Speaker 1: in that space because I studied his techniques. I worked

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Speaker 1: directly with him in his class for two years and

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Speaker 1: he taught me a lot.

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Speaker 3: But also shout out to Hastra. Got my bachelor's.

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Speaker 1: Degree in Speech Communications and Performance and Rhetorical Studies. So

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Speaker 1: being in TV film is something I've always wanted since

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Speaker 1: I was a young child, and I knew it was

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Speaker 1: going to be a hard road right when I met

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Speaker 1: Kadeen when we were eighteen, when she asked me what

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Speaker 1: I wanted to do, I told her this and Martin

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Speaker 1: was on television, but I told her I had a

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Speaker 1: financial plan because I didn't want to be what a

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Speaker 1: starving artist, A starving artist, starving artist like I just

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Speaker 1: did not want to be a starving artist. And this

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Speaker 1: goes for all artistry, you know, painters, rappers, singers, dancers, stuntman.

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Speaker 1: I was a stuntman for three years, you know, as

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Speaker 1: part of the sad Gil when I worked on Power

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Speaker 1: doing stunts for Mari Harwick. So I've done a ton

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Speaker 1: of jobs. But I also remember telling Ky that you

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Speaker 1: have to have a financial plan to be an artists

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Speaker 1: or be an entrepreneur. It's not just chasing your dream.

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Speaker 1: You have to dream with a plan for sure. So

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Speaker 1: let's break down some of the nitty gritty things so

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Speaker 1: you can understand when you hear people talking about this.

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Speaker 2: Strike right right, because of course we're speaking about sag

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Speaker 2: Astra because they're striking now into bout an ira in

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Speaker 2: the industry. However, if you are in any job, it

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Speaker 2: could be know your eight hour workday job? What is

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Speaker 2: a labor union? A labor union is a group of

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Speaker 2: two or more employees who join together to advance common

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Speaker 2: interests such as wages, benefits, schedules, and other employment terms

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Speaker 2: and conditions.

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Speaker 1: Now this is important, right, and so many people don't

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Speaker 1: know who's in charge of their labor I mean their

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Speaker 1: labor union.

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Speaker 3: They don't know who to call if something happens on

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Speaker 3: the labor union.

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Speaker 1: Right, they don't even know which is important to know

714
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Speaker 1: because you can fight things on your job like discrimination,

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Speaker 1: unfair wages, unfair work practices, unfair conditions. Just by going

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Speaker 1: to your labor union. You don't have to be the whistleblower.

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Speaker 1: You just go to your union and be like.

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Speaker 2: A this, Yeah, they have your interest to her. A

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Speaker 2: lot of times you don't want to have to go

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Speaker 2: to the hierarchies, or you don't want to have to

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Speaker 2: go to the people in charge. Right. You want someone

722
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Speaker 2: who will be in support up to you and will

723
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Speaker 2: come with that lens versus the And this ain't I know, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Since August twentieth, eighteen sixty six. The National Labor Union

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Speaker 2: was actually founded then in Baltimore, Maryland, and it was

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Speaker 2: the first attempt to create a national labor group in

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Speaker 2: the United States. And one of their first actions was

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Speaker 2: the first national call for Congress to mandate an eight

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Speaker 2: hour work day.

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Speaker 1: So I want to I just want to point something

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Speaker 1: out to people who understand history, right, just think about history.

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Speaker 1: The National Labor Union was founded in eighteen sixty six.

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Speaker 2: What happened around that, What happened in eighteen sixty.

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Speaker 3: Five, what happened in eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Emanciplation Proclamation was signed in eighteen sixty three.

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Speaker 3: It'sok, two years until.

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Speaker 1: June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, when all slaves were considered free,

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Speaker 1: and now people actually had to work to build their businesses.

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Speaker 1: And a minute people had to actually work to build

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Speaker 1: their own businesses.

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Speaker 3: Let's create a labor union. Doesn't that sound awfully coincidental?

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. I'm just I just want to put that

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Speaker 3: out there.

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Speaker 2: We just wanted to put to in case you missed it.

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Speaker 2: In case you missed it. So, labor unions were a

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Speaker 2: pillar of the civil rights movement. Many civil rights leaders

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Speaker 2: you may know who helped shape the labor union, Mary MacLeod,

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Speaker 2: Bethune Bayard rustin A, Philip Randolph, and Martin Luther King

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Speaker 2: all worked with labor unions to create more equitable conditions

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Speaker 2: for black workers in various industries.

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Speaker 3: And we're still fighting those same battles today.

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Speaker 1: Of the twelve thousand writers in the writer's strike, only

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Speaker 1: eight hundred are African American. That's not crazy to you,

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Speaker 1: wild because and the reason why I want to point

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Speaker 1: that bring this up to is when you're a black

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Speaker 1: artist who are fighting, who is fighting for opportunities, if

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Speaker 1: you don't have black writers writing for you, How could

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Speaker 1: they even find a role that fits it's fits you

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Speaker 1: if the people who are.

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Speaker 3: Writing don't know to write for you. You know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with producers, directors, everything. So

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Speaker 1: there's a reason why these labor unions are important. They're

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Speaker 1: not just fighting for equitable, fair labor practice for everyone,

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Speaker 1: but specifically for Black Americans because, as you can see

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Speaker 1: on the timelines when they created labor unions, labor unions

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Speaker 1: were not.

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Speaker 3: Created for black people.

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Speaker 1: It is a fact that the people you mentioned here,

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Speaker 1: Mary MacLeod, Bethune, Martin, Luther King had to fight, and

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Speaker 1: especially a Philip Randolph had to fight to integrate labor

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Speaker 1: unions so black people could be included in the labor unions.

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Speaker 1: An additional fight when first of all, you have to

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Speaker 1: fight to be a part of the union. Then when

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Speaker 1: you get to be a part of the union, fight

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Speaker 1: for equality within the union. I watched, I watched remember

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Speaker 1: his another quick story anecdote. But when I first retired

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Speaker 1: from the NFL twenty ten, officially, we were looking for

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Speaker 1: help insurance and before I knew that SAG because I

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Speaker 1: knew nothing about SAG, and I didn't know SAG had

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Speaker 1: health insurance.

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Speaker 3: I was going to be a firefighter.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And at that time I made a fun.

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Speaker 1: Come on baby, you know, you know baby, I was

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Speaker 1: that calendar would have been, we'd have been in it

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Speaker 1: saying April baby, April fool.

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Speaker 2: Then we've been fighting in them covers.

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Speaker 3: You're fighting them covers. You nasty, nasty, You just took

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Speaker 3: my mom. I was going somewhere else, go back.

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Speaker 2: That's the story. Now.

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Speaker 1: I was going to be a firefighter, mainly because I

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Speaker 1: could get health insurance, but also because I could work

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Speaker 1: three days on and have four days off based on

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Speaker 1: the way their cycles work. But I remember during that time,

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Speaker 1: in twenty ten, they were fighting the Black Firefighters Union

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Speaker 1: were fighting for equal wages and discrimination because the five

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Speaker 1: previous years before this union was created, studies had shown

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Speaker 1: that once again, firefighters were.

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Speaker 3: Being accepted into firehouses based.

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Speaker 1: On what is what is the term I just used, go,

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Speaker 1: I just forgot the term. Oh man, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 1: Nepotism built on can help you. But if you notice

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Speaker 1: the families in New York, all of the families that

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Speaker 1: random fires all had the same name, and they were

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Speaker 1: hiring their kids and their nephews and their kids friends

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Speaker 1: and their nephew's friends, and they were leaving out black firefighters.

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Speaker 1: So by the time we came in, they were giving

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Speaker 1: blackfire because the union fought and won their case against

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Speaker 1: the Fire Department of New York that all black firefighters

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Speaker 1: who were hired during that time were going to be

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Speaker 1: hired with five years vested into it. So you didn't

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Speaker 1: start at the starting pay, You started as if you

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Speaker 1: had already worked.

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Speaker 3: For five years. But that's something a union fought for

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Speaker 3: to get.

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Speaker 1: Black firefighters caught up to what they didn't get for

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Speaker 1: all of those previous years. I just wanted to use

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Speaker 1: that example as to important why unions exist.

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Speaker 2: Totally makes sense. And if you're curious about what other

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Speaker 2: industries in the United States have a union representation, this

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Speaker 2: may be you and you don't even know it. Teachers,

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Speaker 2: public service workers like police, and like we said, firemen,

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Speaker 2: transportation workers including bus drivers and rail workers, electricians, plumbers,

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Speaker 2: postal workers, just to name a few. So if you

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Speaker 2: don't know who your union is, your union reps, now's

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Speaker 2: a good time just to find out, just to know.

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Speaker 2: And today there are even non labor unions like the

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Speaker 2: debt collective that focuses on collective actions to cancel student debts.

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Speaker 2: Listen tenant unions as well that focus on collective action

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Speaker 2: to help guarantee safe and affordable housing for everyone. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so that's pretty dope and good to know, because I'm

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Speaker 2: sure our listeners out there somebody falls into any of

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Speaker 2: those categories at any given moments.

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Speaker 1: And we don't really want to make this whole episode

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Speaker 1: about actors, right, because it's not about actors, but it's

837
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Speaker 1: about being an employee and being a worker.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: There's so much emphasis now on people to be an entrepreneur, right,

840
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Speaker 1: being entrepreneur. Okay, this sounds nice to just wake up

841
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Speaker 1: one day and be like, you know what, I'm just

842
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Speaker 1: going to be an entrepreneur. But the truth of the

843
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Speaker 1: matter is most entrepreneurs have to be a worker first.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right.

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Speaker 1: Unless you've inherited some funds to start your own business

846
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Speaker 1: and you've inherited the knowledge to be able to run

847
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Speaker 1: your own business and have your own business make money,

848
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Speaker 1: you have to work first.

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Speaker 2: How is are you gonna learn how to run your

850
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Speaker 2: own business? That was literally what I did with mac Cosmetics.

851
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Speaker 2: My goal and my aim and my passion was not

852
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Speaker 2: makeup artistry. I kind of fell into it in a recession,

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Speaker 2: enjoyed it, got to meet people, and then saw the

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Speaker 2: opportunity to no longer work for a company and then

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Speaker 2: use the knowledge that I gained to then use make

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Speaker 2: my own company. Yes, right, so do you remember I

857
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Speaker 2: was moving up fairly quickly when I worked at mac Cosmetics.

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Speaker 1: As you've always done in the latter And no, no,

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Speaker 1: this is I don't I'm only pointing this out and

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Speaker 1: this is not to brag on you, but ever since

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Speaker 1: I've known you, you've been an overachiever. Right when we

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Speaker 1: first moved into the dorm, and I keep saying we

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Speaker 1: we were not together, but I said, weeks, I'm used

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Speaker 1: to doing everything together. When we first moved into the

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Speaker 1: dorm at Hofstra, you hated your roommate and you asked,

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Speaker 1: how could I get my own single?

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Speaker 3: They say you should register to be an RA.

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Speaker 1: You registered to become an RA in one RA of

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Speaker 1: the year, and then you were just like, Okay, this

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Speaker 1: room is small, but I want my own like suite.

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Speaker 1: Then they were like, well you can be a a D.

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Speaker 1: Then you registered to be a a D and one

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Speaker 1: a D of the year. Then you was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: I can get my education paid for if I become

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Speaker 1: an r D. You registered become an RD apartment. We

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Speaker 1: had a own apartment, but you won what r D

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Speaker 1: of the year.

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Speaker 3: The same thing.

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Speaker 1: When you started in Matt Cosmetics, you were thirdy No,

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Speaker 1: not even a third key you were.

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Speaker 2: I was just a part.

882
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: Part artists.

883
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

884
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: Then and then with full time.

885
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 2: Artists, well not even I went from a uh, part

886
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 2: time artist to a third key key keyholder, which is

887
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: like the lowest level of management. But it was a

888
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: full time job and it gave.

889
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 3: Me benefits and health insurance, and that's.

890
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: Why you ultimately what I wanted. And then after that

891
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: six months, within a year, I was promoted to an

892
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: assistant manager.

893
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 3: It was just the same thing.

894
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: But I learned so much in that time. I was

895
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: not only learning the artistry side of things, but I

896
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: learned how to read p and ls. I learned how

897
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 2: to you know, do events to make money. I learned

898
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: how to do contract part of the impact team or

899
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: the impact team that I was pushed as an artist.

900
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: So then that gave me the latitude to then say,

901
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 2: you know what, I can kind of do this on

902
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 2: my own and start my own little side business here

903
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: and then that gave me the flexibility to become a

904
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: freelance artist, to keep my toe in the industry and

905
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: work a couple hours here and there in the store.

906
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: But I was doing a majority of my work outside

907
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 2: of it. So that's how the cookie crumbled.

908
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: I will say this, KOs, kudos to you because you

909
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: had a plan to go in there and learn, and

910
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: you learned, and then because we worked together, you were

911
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: able to take the leap of faith and go out

912
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: on your own when I was able to establish myself.

913
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

914
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Part of the reason why I'm bringing that up is

915
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: because in times of strikes like this or work stoppages,

916
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: when you have a spouse, yeah, and one is busting

917
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: in or ask to get something done and say, for example,

918
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: you're not working, you can be a support system to

919
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: that person in that time to help them. But the

920
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: most important thing is when you're working right, don't just

921
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: be a worker. Don't just clock in the work, say man,

922
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: I know what time I'm getting off. Don't help build

923
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: the business and then leave. You're not helping yourself as

924
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: an employee. It's important and imperative that you learn every

925
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: aspect of the business because if you really want to

926
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: be an entrepreneur being a worker, it's not a shortcoming.

927
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: All it is is a paid education. Paid education. Learn

928
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: as much as you can about the business. You know

929
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: how many people I know who started working in electricity

930
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: as an electrician, and now I have my own company.

931
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: How did you have your own company? Well?

932
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: I started to notice once I was going to all

933
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: of these houses. I noticed how they took the invoices,

934
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: how they submitted payments, how they committed sales.

935
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 3: And I said, you know what these are now my clients.

936
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: I've the ones that's been in contact with them, So

937
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: let me start my own company. And then they started

938
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: soliciting to those same people and say, hey, if you're

939
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: looking for an electrician, now I started my own company.

940
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 1: You know you're used to me. But it only happens

941
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: if you learn first. The best way you can learn

942
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: is going through your union. I learned so much about

943
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: labor agreements and contracts through the NFLPA.

944
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I started.

945
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: To learn how much we deserved and how much we

946
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: weren't getting. And I learned a lot about business through

947
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 1: the NFLPA, going to events the NFLPA had. It's not

948
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: just a union where I pay dues every month. No,

949
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: they have events where I can learn about stuff. For example,

950
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: Tiffany and Steve got their master's degrees through a program

951
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: that was offered through the NFLPA.

952
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: Right, and if you don't even know you see what

953
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying, that's a possibility or a luxury essentially extended

954
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: to you, then you can never take advantage of it.

955
00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,399
Speaker 1: When I took Jackson to go speak at USC three

956
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: years ago, we spoke in front of some NFL grades.

957
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: These guys were working on second career plans. Guests who

958
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: offered this opportunity for them to learn the second career plans.

959
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: The NFLPA, your union, that's union. So ultimately this whole

960
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: episode is about getting in touch with your union. If

961
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: you work, learning about your business through your union, so

962
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: that if you have a workstop or something, you can

963
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: find all the benefits. I've also had friends who got

964
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: what received payouts for concussions, oh.

965
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: For sure, extended dental coverage for their family, like through

966
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: your unions.

967
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: Through your union, shout out to the union, Shout out

968
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: to SAG after shout out to the WAG for you know,

969
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: coming together and to sign that they were going to

970
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: put their feet down collectively and fight for equity and

971
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 1: equality for all of us. And we want to ask

972
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: everyone here to continue to watch your favorite shows. Yes,

973
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: would let them know that you're only watching for the actress.

974
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: I remember I mentioned that silver cloud in the show opening.

975
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: The silver lining not the cloud, the silver lining around

976
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 2: this cloud is that we've just been happy to have

977
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 2: you home for a little bit. I think that this gay,

978
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: this was God's way for at least for our family,

979
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: God's way of saying, you know what, devel, you need

980
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: a little time home. So the week you were supposed

981
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: to be filming Asa Tima, you actually were able to

982
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,720
Speaker 2: go away with your family, the first side of family

983
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: in five years. And that was awesome because you know,

984
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: had you been working, which would have been great of

985
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: course to get that income, you would have missed out

986
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: on some really great moments with the family. So we've

987
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: been happy to have you home, and we love you,

988
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: and we were standing with you ten toes down.

989
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: Let me tell you my team, my home team, and

990
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: they send ten toes down. We are missing a little

991
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: bit of that money, and money is good. It would

992
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: have been two more seasons of television films and that

993
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: I was watching.

994
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: You can see my eyes, But that just reminds me

995
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: of the times that we've had to endure before and

996
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: just making sure that we're being responsible. I just feel

997
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: more comfortable this time around versus the whole NFL time

998
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: when we lost out, just knowing that we've prepared for

999
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 2: moments like this, Yes.

1000
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: And we also prepare the table that we can continue

1001
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: to create content for sure, and also make some money

1002
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: through real estate through the podcast, through book sales like that.

1003
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: And that's also a message we want to sell to

1004
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: tell people. If you're an artist and you get in

1005
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity, you are getting an opportunity to stand on

1006
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: a platform, utilize that platform to create other sources of

1007
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: revenue for sure, so that you never find yourself in

1008
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: need at any point.

1009
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: And thank y'all for continuing to support the LS family.

1010
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we love y'all, man.

1011
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: We love y'all. All Right, we're gonna take a quick

1012
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,959
Speaker 2: break and get back into Listen letters.

1013
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:57,760
Speaker 3: Okay, baby, all.

1014
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: Right, darling, we're back for another round of Listener. Let

1015
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: us listen to what y'all have for us today. Sure, Hey, Valancadin,

1016
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 2: I love you and your family. What you all represent HEIHI,

1017
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: thank you. Funny story. I saw you guys at my

1018
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: son's AAU basketball game, and I froze like KaDee with Beyonce.

1019
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: That's so funny. My husband had to speak to Devo

1020
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: because I was so nervous. Thank you for all that

1021
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 2: you do. Oh since she said, say hi. But I

1022
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: know sometimes I'll be looking really unapproachable. If you see

1023
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: me look like that at my son's games, it's only

1024
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 2: because I'll be so focused on him. And I'm AAU

1025
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: mom football mom. Take it very seriously, and I really

1026
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: just have tunnel visions. So I'm not trying to be

1027
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: mean or dismissive. Y'all. Not just be in the zone,

1028
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: I promise, But I digress. My issue is I am

1029
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: thirty six years old, married for the second time to

1030
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: my thirty eight year old husband, and I have a

1031
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: sixteen year old son from my previous marriage. My husband

1032
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: has no children. We've been married for a year now,

1033
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 2: and he keeps insinuating that he may want a child

1034
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 2: of his own. But while we were dating, he said

1035
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: he was fine either way. As the years went by,

1036
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: I decided I didn't want to start over. My son

1037
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: is almost an adult who wants to go back to diapers.

1038
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 2: I understand, girl, but I feel selfish if I expect

1039
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: him to go without having the experience of being a dad. However,

1040
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 2: I also feel justified because he never stated not having

1041
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 2: a child was a deal breaker. What should I do?

1042
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: How could we compromise? Any advice would help? Ooh, that's tough.

1043
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: So you were kind of wishy? Why she wit your

1044
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 2: answer there? So, like you said, it was never really

1045
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: they both work because he said he may or may not,

1046
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: and you said, well, I might or might not. Yeah,

1047
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 2: and you're thirty six, Yeah, thirty six, you have a

1048
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: sixteen year old and starting.

1049
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Over two years, he will be out the house.

1050
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: He'll literally be out of the house.

1051
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: And if she starts getting pregnant now, which means ought

1052
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: you to be at the same age we were with Dakota.

1053
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 2: With Dakota, yeah, yeah, yeah, And the I mean, I

1054
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't say that my pregnancy was difficult. It wasn't. It

1055
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: was just more the after, you know, as you get

1056
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 2: up there in age, theatric pregnancy with disrespect thirty plus

1057
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: something year old bruh, so stupid. So if I was

1058
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: in this position, right and I was thirty six, my

1059
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: husband thirty eight, and I'm thinking about like, well, Jackson's

1060
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: only twelve, but still starting over again, because essentially, once

1061
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: we were done with Kaz, I was like, man, I'm

1062
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 2: thirty three years old, done with my kids at thirty three,

1063
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't technically have to start over. But if

1064
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 2: I were in your position and I have my now

1065
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: second husband who I'm so deeply in love with, I

1066
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: feel like I would want to know what a child

1067
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: together with him would be like, Like what would the

1068
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: product of this love be? And that's probably coming from

1069
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: the emotional, mushy side of things and not maybe the

1070
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: realistic side of like going back to diapers and starting

1071
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: over again, because girl, when I look at it, you'll

1072
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: be thirty, ate and free like you. Yeah, travel, you

1073
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: can do whatever you want. How about y'all sit down

1074
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: and do a list of pros and cons together. I

1075
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: was gonna say the same thing, you know, way out

1076
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: the option.

1077
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: There's no right or wrong way to answer this, but

1078
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 1: the only way to rectify this is having constant conversations.

1079
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 3: And that's what marriage is.

1080
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: And to be honest, him changing his mind or you

1081
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: changing your mind isn't a bad thing when y'all met

1082
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: and y'all are dating. Even if he said he didn't

1083
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: want kids, but now did y'all together, he wants to

1084
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: have kids. People are entitled to change their mind the

1085
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: same way you're entitled to say, I'm not cool with that,

1086
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: But y'all have to have that conversation. As long as

1087
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: you guys keep your thoughts to each other, y'all never

1088
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: find a solution. But if y'all can sit down and say, yo,

1089
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: I feel like this. Maybe it's not pregnancy, maybe it's adopting.

1090
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: But if he's saying he wants to know what it's

1091
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 1: like to be a father, and maybe he wants to

1092
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: know what his gene pool will look like with you

1093
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have any children, ask him how important

1094
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 1: it is to him. Ask him the truth. Don't say babe,

1095
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: what do you think? And he says, I don't know?

1096
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 3: Maybe No, do you want want to have a child

1097
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: or not?

1098
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1099
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: You know, do you want to have a child or not?

1100
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 3: And like Kadeen said, weigh out the pros and cons.

1101
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: Definitely point out the fact that this will be a

1102
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: geriatric pregnancy, which means that there are you know, higher

1103
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: risks of certain.

1104
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: Things, say geriatric pregnancy anymore.

1105
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: Why you can't say that because it's.

1106
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: Like it's not like it's derogatory or anything, but it

1107
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: just be making women feel away. I know when I

1108
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 2: told my doctor somebody told me I was geriatric, she

1109
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: was like, don't you ever let people label you as

1110
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 2: geriatric thirty six.

1111
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: That is a clinical term used by scientists. Now you're

1112
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: telling me, y'all can't nothing nothing.

1113
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: Nowadays, you can't say nothing no more. So we know

1114
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: what it is.

1115
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: We won't say geriatric if you're gonna have old bitch pregnancy,

1116
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 1: if you're.

1117
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 2: Gonna have less decrepit pregnancy.

1118
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: I just, I just I want to I'm very big

1119
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: on maternal health because I watched you go through everything.

1120
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: We can't act like having a baby past thirty five

1121
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: doesn't put a woman's health.

1122
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 2: At risks and a higher risk.

1123
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: You know, we can't act like that's not a thing

1124
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: so true. That has to be something that is discussed. Yep,

1125
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: you know, yep, and do what you want. Don't let

1126
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: nobody else make you feel like listen, you know you

1127
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: being judged if you want to have a kid. If

1128
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: you don't y'all talk about what y'all want to do

1129
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: and do what's best for y'all.

1130
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: Being that's the whole fact that I have a friend

1131
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: of mine who is in her second marriage. She has

1132
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: two children, her husband has two children that they came

1133
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: into the marriage with. That's four children total, and they

1134
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: are now debating about having a child together because yeah,

1135
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,439
Speaker 2: they love each other that much. What would our child

1136
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: look like together? Like? They can? They can do that

1137
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: because I'm like, all right, well cool. Some people might say, well, damn,

1138
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: you won't have a fifth kid. That's too many kids.

1139
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: Anytime you start listening to outside and noise, that's when

1140
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 2: things get really convoluted. So have the conversation, sit down

1141
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: with hubby, make those lists of pros and cons, and

1142
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: then let us know how it goes.

1143
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: But talk to each other for sure. You know it

1144
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: ain't no wrong answering. Continue loving on each other. I'm

1145
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: glad you found a husband that's gonna love you, and

1146
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: he clearly loves your son, yes, the same way for

1147
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: him to be that type of guy, so he'll probably

1148
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: be a really really good father for sure.

1149
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: And shout out to y'all, man, we appreciate y'all. See

1150
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: me out the AAU game. Say what up. Yep, you know,

1151
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 3: because we love y'all. And of course I was only

1152
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: joking about old bitch pregnancy.

1153
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: But kay, gonna tell me, I can't say Jerryatric So

1154
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: I know that might have just.

1155
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: Been my doctor, because my doctor back in New York

1156
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: she was very much like feminists. Don't let them do that,

1157
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: don't let them call you that, don't let them put

1158
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: a label on you. And I'm like, all right, girl,

1159
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: you better empower me. Meanwhile, I ended up with a

1160
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: post part because you had an old bitch pregnancy exactly, Mick.

1161
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: No, here's the crazy part where we used to go

1162
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: for checkups and stuff, right. I remember when we first

1163
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: used to go with Jackson. We were the young kids

1164
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: in there. We were twenty six, you know, we were

1165
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: in there. It's like, you know, watching people. But then

1166
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: now I'm like, I'm happy it was COVID because I

1167
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: couldn't go with you because I was just like, man,

1168
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't want nobody to looking at that me like

1169
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 1: this old lass nigga.

1170
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: I think you're still looking like a young.

1171
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. I appreciate you, love me too much.

1172
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: All right, on to the second one, Yes.

1173
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: So where to start lol whenever they start did chest

1174
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be crazy all right. First, let me

1175
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: tell you me and my newly married husband love you

1176
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: and your wife.

1177
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We love y'all back.

1178
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: My husband is currently incarcerated and has been since he

1179
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: was sixteen years old and will be coming home next year. Wow,

1180
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: we have a hard time communicating crazy, right, since that

1181
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: is a major part of our relationship. I can be

1182
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: a strong black woman with not always allowing him to

1183
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: lead or my mouth is deadly when upset.

1184
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: Now, my husband is amazing.

1185
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: Even through our distance, we are still reading your book

1186
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: and listening to the podcast because we are really wanting

1187
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: to find our piece in our marriage. We want to

1188
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: better understand we came from two different backgrounds. We want

1189
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: to better understand we came from two different backgrounds. I'm

1190
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: just hoping before he comes home that we are able

1191
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: to communicate better, because him coming home after all these

1192
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,919
Speaker 1: years will already be its own battle, and I don't

1193
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 1: want us to be a part of that battle. What

1194
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: tips can you give us about improving our communication? Well, shit,

1195
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. She already pointed out some things

1196
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 1: that she know about herself and she knows about him

1197
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 1: self awareness.

1198
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: That's the first step, is self awareness.

1199
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: Right, And how are you now going to curtail these things?

1200
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1201
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 2: You know these these these traits that you may have,

1202
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 2: are these qualities or these uh you know moments with

1203
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: the deadly mouth when upset? How can you now?

1204
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: I sure do Jimi sucking souls? I'm sorry, I couldn't.

1205
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't help myself. I couldn't help.

1206
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 2: He could never help himself. But you're welcome. So, but

1207
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: now that you know that these are the things that

1208
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: may insinuate a fight or an argument or make things

1209
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: hard for him to then communicate or reciprocate communication, you

1210
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: may have to find oasis to kind of hold it

1211
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: down and maybe ask questions or within conversation speak in

1212
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: a tone in a manner in which you're actually encouraging

1213
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: conversation from him. Because there's been times recently with Deval,

1214
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: for example, say we get into a little spat that

1215
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 2: I have chosen not to raise my voice or not

1216
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: to fly off the handle because I just say, you

1217
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: know what, I know, if I do, it's just going

1218
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: to go far left. And to avoid that, I sometimes

1219
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 2: bite the bullet where I want to just you know,

1220
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: essentially jump out the window with it, and I don't.

1221
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes she does about five percent sometimes most of the time.

1222
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: The other ninety five percent. I got to remain came.

1223
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: I think we both have to remain com I think

1224
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 2: it's very fifty to fifty right now.

1225
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 3: That's how you feel based.

1226
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: That's exactly how I feel.

1227
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 3: You have that.

1228
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1229
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 3: See how I just did that.

1230
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: See how we did that, prime example, prime example. But

1231
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: also too, I think within the constraints that they have

1232
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: now with him being incarcerated. Yes, you know, you are

1233
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: going to have to reacclimate to what life is going

1234
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: to be like together. But sometimes a lot of communication

1235
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 2: is just in eye contact body language, but like being

1236
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: in the same room with each other.

1237
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 3: He's been incarcerated.

1238
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: They haven't had that type of relationship, knowing his body

1239
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: language and stuff like that.

1240
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 2: She doesn't really know, meaning that they're gonna have to learn.

1241
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to learn, which which is exciting, Yeah,

1242
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: but it can also be scary. But you also have

1243
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: to understand if he's been incarcerated since he was sixteen, Yeah,

1244
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 1: you have to understand that.

1245
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: I don't know how old he is.

1246
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: She didn't say, but how long ago was that and

1247
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: where was his mind at that point when he was incarcerated,

1248
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: So be open to knowing that however old he is

1249
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: now that he's out, that sixteen year old person is

1250
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: still going to be more prominent because that's who he

1251
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: was when he went inside, and she's probably helped him

1252
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: a lot develop because he has a reason to work

1253
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: and do all these different things. So just be able

1254
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 1: to have empathy and don't expect him to be the

1255
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: version that you want him to be, right, especially not

1256
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: out the way.

1257
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 3: To accept him for who he is and see if

1258
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 3: that works for you.

1259
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: Because I'm sure on both sides, there's gonna be a

1260
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: lot to unpack, yes, for both of you, and like

1261
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 2: you said, transitioning to now even being together in the

1262
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 2: same space and living together. But I do wish you

1263
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: guys the best, and I think that if you guys

1264
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: were able to stay together within this current situation, absolutely

1265
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: that there's definitely a great promise for moving forward because

1266
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: at the root of all of this is genuine care.

1267
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: It seems like in love.

1268
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: Bro, imagine if all you have is communicating because you

1269
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: can't see each other.

1270
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the frustration that comes with not even being

1271
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: together because we know we have that a lot. Like

1272
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 2: if Devo's away filming for six weeks and I can't

1273
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: high tail it to wherever.

1274
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 3: He is, going crazy, she'd be going crazy.

1275
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: I'd be like, Kadeen, calm down, Okay, let me tell

1276
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: you six weeks. I'll be home soon.

1277
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 2: When he's away, and god forbid, I don't have enough

1278
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 2: communication or I'm not calling enough, or he can't FaceTime

1279
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: me or get me because I'm running around with the kids.

1280
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: He is a whole big ass baby me Devo.

1281
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: Me today, me.

1282
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: Yes, you answer the fucking phone when I call you,

1283
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: especially when we away for six weeks.

1284
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 2: And I call your answer the phone right as I'm

1285
00:59:54,560 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 2: juggling your four children, and every day and every it

1286
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:05,919
Speaker 2: goes to show lack of district what FTK, don't tell

1287
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 2: me that, don't I know what that acrom and you're

1288
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 2: not going to tell me to fuck them kids?

1289
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: Now?

1290
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: Now?

1291
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 3: They all right? Daddy calling you, Daddy calling you into

1292
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: the phone.

1293
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 2: Goodness, good luck to your I pray that that everything

1294
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: works out for y'all and that you can get your

1295
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: man you know, in your arms again. Y'all can get

1296
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: that communication flowing all right, y'all. If you want to

1297
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: be featured as one of our listener letters, email us

1298
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: at dead ass Advice at gmail dot com.

1299
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: That's D E A D A S S A D

1300
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 3: V I C E at gmail.

1301
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: Dot We're talking moment of truth. We're talking about the

1302
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: sag after strike only because it's timely to what's happening now,

1303
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: but also just labor unions in general and what that

1304
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: looks like for everybody within their respective fields.

1305
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: So in the moment of truth, yeah, my moment of truth,

1306
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to speak directly to my entrepreneurs, my artists,

1307
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: and people who who like to live freely. It is

1308
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 1: important to have some structure in your life in times

1309
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: like this, when living freely means that you may not

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Speaker 1: have any income for an extended period of time. Creating

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Speaker 1: a source of structure financially through other streams of revenue

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Speaker 1: or other businesses will help you have a safe transition

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Speaker 1: during this time, or even just feel comfortable existing in

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Speaker 1: a different space without your main source of income. So

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Speaker 1: continue to just evolve as a person, as an entrepreneur,

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Speaker 1: as a business person, but have a financial plan while

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Speaker 1: chasing your dreams.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, you never want to get caught with your

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Speaker 2: back against the wall and no other options. I think

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Speaker 2: my moment of truth is regardless of what field you're in,

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Speaker 2: because we gave a list of so many fields that

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Speaker 2: have labor unions and people who are there to be

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Speaker 2: your voice or to you know, stand in solidarity with you.

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Speaker 2: If you have an issue on the job, just know

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Speaker 2: that you have to find out what that is, What

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Speaker 2: does that look like for you in your respective job

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Speaker 2: if you're working that eight hour work day. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you are a civil servant and you're working you know,

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Speaker 2: post office or whatever it is, know what your union

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Speaker 2: looks like, and know what's offered to you. A lot

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Speaker 2: of times, you know, there's.

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Speaker 3: So many benefits.

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Speaker 2: There's so many benefits out there that can help you.

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be within a strike. It

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Speaker 2: can just be on a regular day to day. You

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Speaker 2: can get some sort of perk or some sort of

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Speaker 2: benefit from a union. So no more, you get more,

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Speaker 2: so you can do more like it all right, y'all,

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Speaker 2: And if you have not as yet, be sure to

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Speaker 2: join us on Patreon. We have so much more to

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Speaker 2: Be sure to find us there with for more exclusive

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Speaker 2: Dead Ass Podcasts video content as well, and we have

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Speaker 2: some stuff that we're cooking up, y'all. The actually, this

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Speaker 2: T shirt that I'm wearing today is a gift from

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Speaker 2: one of our supporters that came to one of our

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Speaker 2: Dead Ass Live Podcasts shows this past go around last

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Speaker 2: February or February that just past. And what does it say? Babe?

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Speaker 3: Let me read it.

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Speaker 2: Read what my T shirt says?

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Speaker 3: Just looking at titties?

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Speaker 1: But all right, mom of not one, not two, not three,

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Speaker 1: but four hole boys?

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Speaker 2: That's fine, amazing, amazing. So so sorry. I couldn't shout

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Speaker 2: out the actual person's name or the company name, because

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Speaker 2: you know, there was a lot going on. But I

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Speaker 2: do have the shirt and I love it, and thank you.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching and you're.

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Speaker 3: Listening, and where's my shirt?

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Speaker 2: They might have given you a shirt too. We had

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Speaker 2: to go look it up.

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Speaker 3: Where's my shirt? Man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate all theid. You probably didn't get.

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Speaker 1: A shirt, though, tyy y'all giving k gifts and not

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Speaker 1: giving me no gifts man, gifts.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna start setting on people in the live shows. Man.

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Speaker 1: Next time we have a live show. If you get

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Speaker 1: gay gift and I don't get a gift from taking a.

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Speaker 2: Gift, bring the man in flowers please, facts playing no games,

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Speaker 2: But I set all that to say, we love to

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Speaker 2: see y'all's faces in the seats when we have our

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Speaker 2: live shows and we are cooking up something so insanely

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Speaker 2: special for you.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's not gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Our next round tours coming up at the top of

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Speaker 2: the year, so stay tuned. You want to join Patreon

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