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Speaker 1: this Miami Dolphin team. Wow, What is up? Dolphins? And
Speaker 1: welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part of the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: official podcast network covering your Miami Dolphins. I am your host,
Speaker 1: Travis Wingfield, and I am here to bring you your
Speaker 1: daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show,
Speaker 1: we are joined by the creator of the film Room
Speaker 1: on YouTube, Brett Coleman. He has an episode on new
Speaker 1: Dolphins running back Jordan Howard that is an absolute must
Speaker 1: watch for Dolphins fans everywhere as we dive into the
Speaker 1: new Dolphins running back in his game, plus this year's good, deep,
Speaker 1: diverse draft class of talented running backs. All of that
Speaker 1: and more on this Tuesday, April the seventh edition of
Speaker 1: the Drivetime Podcast Dolphins, and this interview was so in
Speaker 1: depth about the demands of the running back position, how
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard excels in all three phases of the position
Speaker 1: and this deep, deep draft class. Let's not waste any
Speaker 1: more time and get to my interview with Brett Coleman.
Speaker 1: And joining the podcast now is the creator of quite frankly,
Speaker 1: one of the best channels on all of YouTube. It's
Speaker 1: aptly named the Film Room. He is Brett Coleman. Brett,
Speaker 1: what's up man, I'm doing wonderful. Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: Excited to talk Dolphins just because you guys have so
Speaker 1: many picks to work with this draft. We've had so
Speaker 1: many comments just like that on the podcast. I even
Speaker 1: talked to Pete Prisco of CBS Sports and he was
Speaker 1: talking about how he wants to be the GM of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins because of the great position they're in heading
Speaker 1: into free agency and the draft now. And that's where
Speaker 1: we get our focus here on this particular podcast episode.
Speaker 1: But first I want to get into the weeds on
Speaker 1: one of the Dolphins free agent signings because you produced
Speaker 1: a video right about fourteen minutes in length after Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard's rookie year, and I'll be honest with you, Brett,
Speaker 1: after watching it, I'm thinking this guy might be the
Speaker 1: Steel of free agent. See it's episode thirty seven titled
Speaker 1: how Jordan Howard ran over the entire NFL. And I
Speaker 1: want to get into all three phases of the position
Speaker 1: because you did such a good job detailing each of those.
Speaker 1: And let's go ahead and start with the running portion
Speaker 1: of his game. That clip where you break down his
Speaker 1: read of his interior offensive line against the Lions and
Speaker 1: creating confusion in the run fits for the linebackers, that's
Speaker 1: just elite content, man. So for our listeners, can you
Speaker 1: tell us about those innate traits that make Howard such
Speaker 1: a dangerous runner as a ball carrier? And you know what,
Speaker 1: what helped him to run for so many yards as
Speaker 1: a rookie. And to be honest, I think he played
Speaker 1: pretty well um in Philly too. But what he has
Speaker 1: is unbelievable vision and almost like a slippery nous in
Speaker 1: between the tackles. He's very good at setting up blocks,
Speaker 1: meaning just kind of using his eyes, a little kind
Speaker 1: of shoulder movements, little jab steps to kind of influence
Speaker 1: linebackers into fitting themselves in of gaps that he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to go into, so that he can hit the
Speaker 1: actual gap he does want to go into front side,
Speaker 1: particularly on zone runs, where even just the smallest little
Speaker 1: kind of shaker jab can kind of get linebackers to
Speaker 1: panic like you're cutting back all the way, uh, and
Speaker 1: then you just kind of squired out the front side,
Speaker 1: which he did all the time. In Chicago. We did
Speaker 1: a little bit in Philly as well. And and that's
Speaker 1: really the value that he brings. You can run outside
Speaker 1: zone with him all day long and be comfortable. You
Speaker 1: can run inside zone with him, you can run a
Speaker 1: little bit of power stuff. He's not super quick in
Speaker 1: terms of stop, start, bounce outside, but I mean you
Speaker 1: can get other backs around him that can do that better.
Speaker 1: But just in terms of like a workhorse seventeen eighteen,
Speaker 1: carries a game salted away in the fourth quarter kind
Speaker 1: of back, there's very few, I think in the league
Speaker 1: that I would rather have, uh than a veteran Jordan
Speaker 1: Howard that's been there, done that and really knows what
Speaker 1: he's doing. And his production through the first four years
Speaker 1: of his career has been among the best backs in
Speaker 1: the NFL in terms of pure volume, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: the power that he offers. His short yardage conversion rate
Speaker 1: is very good. And the other aspect of his game
Speaker 1: that I think allowed him to get onto the field
Speaker 1: to make such a significant impact as a rookie was
Speaker 1: that quality pass protection. And Brett your video had two
Speaker 1: clips against the Colts that I just loved from that
Speaker 1: rookie year and even three years into his career now
Speaker 1: there are a few guys in the league that can
Speaker 1: declete blitzers the way Jordan Howard can. And you know
Speaker 1: that that kind of versatility on third down. We always
Speaker 1: like to talk about three down backs. That doesn't just
Speaker 1: mean you know, a running back you can put in
Speaker 1: the slot. That means a running back that you can
Speaker 1: trust in six man protection. If you want to run
Speaker 1: like a five step drop passing concept or dare I
Speaker 1: say a seven step drop passing concept, it's really hard
Speaker 1: to block that with five guys and hold the ball
Speaker 1: of that long and third long situations, you need a
Speaker 1: running back they can pick up a blitz. You need
Speaker 1: a running back that can actually give a good ship
Speaker 1: and help out your tackles. And Jordan Howard has since
Speaker 1: he came into the league, honestly, has been one of
Speaker 1: the best at that. UM. I liken him to kind
Speaker 1: of like prime Frank Gore, where you know Frank wasn't
Speaker 1: a dominant receiver, but he was so smart and so
Speaker 1: good in pass protection that he was a three down
Speaker 1: back throughout his career as well. UM And so I
Speaker 1: think again, is he a dominant receiver, No, but he
Speaker 1: is a three down back because of his blocking versatility
Speaker 1: that can kind of open up the passing game and
Speaker 1: let you run a lot of deep passing concepts because
Speaker 1: of that, and as a pass catcher in terms of
Speaker 1: what he offers when he is out into the route
Speaker 1: making plays in the passing game, does that vision that
Speaker 1: he offers, because, like you mentioned, watching some of his
Speaker 1: tape that end zone angle on the ALL twenty two,
Speaker 1: it's like watching a great anticipatory passer in terms of
Speaker 1: the way he sets up those blocks. Do you see
Speaker 1: some of that in the screen game as well? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: especially on those little leak screens where you know you
Speaker 1: can get two or three guys out in front of
Speaker 1: him on the edge and at that point it basically
Speaker 1: just becomes a moving zone run. You know, you press outside,
Speaker 1: cut inside, And he's done that his entire career as
Speaker 1: a runner. You know, now you're just kind of doing
Speaker 1: it on the move outside the numb but it's the
Speaker 1: same principle, and so I think he can be a
Speaker 1: very very good screen runner specifically for that reason. He
Speaker 1: is Brett Coleman. He hosted Create, Hosts Rather Created, and
Speaker 1: as the lead analyst on the Film Room YouTube channel
Speaker 1: Check that Out. Is Jordan Howard episode number thirty seven
Speaker 1: is is fantastic and transitioning now into the draft, you
Speaker 1: mentioned that Howard could be paired with another back from
Speaker 1: this draft class. He was a fifth rounder once upon
Speaker 1: a time, and this class looks to have guys throughout
Speaker 1: that can really contribute in some former fashion. Right away
Speaker 1: in your number one, let's go ahead and start up
Speaker 1: top here, Brett, I want to know who falls into
Speaker 1: your top tier of backs and what is it about
Speaker 1: those players that makes them special? You know, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to find the order that I want to put DeAndre Swift,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, Cam Akers, and Clyde Edwards Hilaire in, but
Speaker 1: it kind of it varies team by team in terms
Speaker 1: of what they need. You know, Jonathan Taylor, I think
Speaker 1: is a brilliant pure runner. He reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of Arian Foster, but with more juice. Just an excellent
Speaker 1: dead Lake cut. He's a really good zone runner, but
Speaker 1: has a lot of power as well. Again, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit not the most dynamic receiver, but he still
Speaker 1: has good hands. I think he could still do a
Speaker 1: lot of the checkdoun option. You just won't be running
Speaker 1: like you know, seam routes with him like you would
Speaker 1: with some other guys. Uh. DeAndre Swift is a phenomenal
Speaker 1: outside zone runner. I mean his ability to stop and
Speaker 1: cut up field really without even kind of wasting and
Speaker 1: a momentum is special. And also he brings I think
Speaker 1: a little bit more to the screen game or to
Speaker 1: the receiving game than Jonathan Taylor. Cam Akers is a
Speaker 1: little bit more versatile and that I think he's a
Speaker 1: better receiver even than DeAndre Swift. Maybe not quite the
Speaker 1: same top end um acceleration out of a cut. I
Speaker 1: think he he doesn't kind of preserve momentum as well
Speaker 1: as maybe Swift does. But I think in terms of
Speaker 1: having quick feet in like gap scheme runs, stop, start,
Speaker 1: bounce outside, he's a lot better than Swift at those.
Speaker 1: And also he carries with him a lot of versatility
Speaker 1: as a receiver. He played quarterback in high school, so
Speaker 1: you can kind of maybe get a little bit tricky
Speaker 1: with him with some double pass stuff. Um. And I
Speaker 1: think you know, any Dolphins fans that also happened to
Speaker 1: be Seminole fans realize how let's just say inconsistent their
Speaker 1: offensive line was last year. Uh And and he kind
Speaker 1: of made something out of nothing on a lot of runs.
Speaker 1: So I'm a really big fan of cam Ankers. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a better pro than he was
Speaker 1: in college. And then the darling of the class for
Speaker 1: me is Clyde Edwards Hilaire, who is not as fast
Speaker 1: as any of those guys, is not as big as
Speaker 1: any of those guys, but I'll be darned if he
Speaker 1: isn't just so explosive and has such good vision in
Speaker 1: short area quickness that I think he could still be
Speaker 1: just as productive, if not more productive, than all of them,
Speaker 1: especially if he's in an offense tailored to him. He
Speaker 1: almost kind of reminds me of like a like a
Speaker 1: Devonte Freeman, or like a super charged James White. You know,
Speaker 1: they ran the Saints offense last year to l s
Speaker 1: U and he played not just the mark Ingram roll,
Speaker 1: but the Alvin Camaro role as well, and did so brilliantly.
Speaker 1: I love the way you answered that question initially because
Speaker 1: it really provides a perfect segue into this next idea
Speaker 1: that kind of goes off the script here for our
Speaker 1: rundown bread. But you mentioned this glut of running backs
Speaker 1: that you're kind of struggling to separate in terms of
Speaker 1: general team need, and you can obviously do that by
Speaker 1: specific team here talking about the Miami Dolphins, obviously on
Speaker 1: the Drivetime podcast part of the Miami Dolphins official podcast network.
Speaker 1: And I'm curious to get your take, like, where would
Speaker 1: you start that group of players in terms of when
Speaker 1: they start coming off the board, because usually it's gonna this.
Speaker 1: These things tend to have runs, right Like you're gett
Speaker 1: a running back that goes off and then the next
Speaker 1: one comes off a couple of picks later, and you
Speaker 1: get a run on these guys. Where do you think
Speaker 1: that run might start? Is it going to be the
Speaker 1: first round or do we wait until day two to
Speaker 1: hear the first back called on the draft night? If
Speaker 1: if they go in the first round, and that's a
Speaker 1: big if, if they start going that high, I actually
Speaker 1: think Miami at twenty six would be kind of an
Speaker 1: ideal star place and that would be the third first
Speaker 1: round pick for Miami, So you know they can get
Speaker 1: probably a quarterback at number five if they don't end
Speaker 1: up trading up. Um at number eight teens, you can
Speaker 1: kind of go best player available. It's dealer's choice, really,
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want there. Um but then
Speaker 1: at twenty six, And the reason why I might take
Speaker 1: a running back for them at six is because then
Speaker 1: you get the fifth year option and then a franchise
Speaker 1: tag on top of that. You can control that contract
Speaker 1: for a running back for six years and have them
Speaker 1: be really cheap compared to what other backs that get
Speaker 1: paid are going to be making, and probably have just
Speaker 1: as good, if if not better production, especially when looking
Speaker 1: at some of the talents at the top of this class.
Speaker 1: So just from a pure team management standpoint in getting
Speaker 1: value for contracts and controlling premium players for as long
Speaker 1: as possible, I don't hate the idea of taking a
Speaker 1: running back at solely for that reason. And then after that,
Speaker 1: you know you've got potentially the Packers, you know they
Speaker 1: want to allocate money for Aaron Jones or do they
Speaker 1: want to draft a potential long term replacement a year early?
Speaker 1: The forty Niners, we know how much you know they're
Speaker 1: they're pure bp A. So if DeAndre switch is the
Speaker 1: best player on their board, they might go with him.
Speaker 1: Then the Chiefs also needed running back too, so I
Speaker 1: think in the twenties is when we start to see
Speaker 1: them go, but particularly Miami might be the first one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a super interesting discussion in terms of where that
Speaker 1: run starts and how you allocate your resources to a
Speaker 1: position that, by all you know, by all honesty, has
Speaker 1: been devalued across the NFL landscape the last few years,
Speaker 1: and that six years of club control could really maybe
Speaker 1: be the answer to how you deal with the idea
Speaker 1: that teams may become more scared of that second contract
Speaker 1: for running backs. But I want to go back now
Speaker 1: into this draft class with you, Brett and talk about
Speaker 1: I think a notable omission from that group of players,
Speaker 1: some guys that might be available on Day two for you,
Speaker 1: some value picks, And the one that really stood out
Speaker 1: for me was j K. Dobbins out of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Does he top that next tier of backs? And who
Speaker 1: are some other guys in that group that you like
Speaker 1: on Day two? Absolutely? J K Dobbins, I think is fantastic.
Speaker 1: You know, if all of those guys are you know,
Speaker 1: one A, one B, one C, one D. He's to
Speaker 1: A easily for me, very very versatile. He's got a
Speaker 1: lot I don't know what he did in the off season,
Speaker 1: but he just looked faster in twenty en um. I
Speaker 1: mean he runs so so hard. Uh. He does everything
Speaker 1: the coaches asked of him. Every single Ohio State coach
Speaker 1: will run through a wall for that kid. They love
Speaker 1: him up there in that program. Again, he's another one
Speaker 1: of those three down backs. And it doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: I don't think that he can be ultra productive in
Speaker 1: the NFL like the others I do. It depends on
Speaker 1: what team he goes to, but um, I think he
Speaker 1: would probably be like the to a by the slimmest
Speaker 1: of margins to all the other guys in that top four.
Speaker 1: You also look at Zack Moss, who I think it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna go on day two, and he is just
Speaker 1: a freight train from Utah. Um will will his skill
Speaker 1: set kind of clash with Jordan Howard a little bit? Yeah, potentially,
Speaker 1: because then you have two backs that I think you
Speaker 1: can kind of slam between the tackles all day long,
Speaker 1: and two backs that I think get better the more
Speaker 1: carries they get, So splitting carries between them might be interesting,
Speaker 1: But just in terms of value, like, yeah, he's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be the top player on the board for a
Speaker 1: lot of teams, uh, solely for his between the tackles value. Um,
Speaker 1: I also look at you know, Benjamin from Arizona State.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot later. He's a little bit smaller, um,
Speaker 1: maybe more of a pure third down back, but he's
Speaker 1: really good. I mean, he's scrappy as all get out
Speaker 1: in pass protection. I saw him down at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl just taking on linebackers way bigger than him and
Speaker 1: stoning him. I don't even know how the physics of
Speaker 1: that work, but he's scrappy, UM, really good receiver out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, quick in the open field. A J.
Speaker 1: Dillon again is another hammer from Boston College. A lot
Speaker 1: of people kind of compare him to Derrick Henry. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many in this class where
Speaker 1: even if you don't spend a first, second, or third
Speaker 1: round pick, you're you're gonna end up getting a pretty
Speaker 1: good contributor running back all the way until probably the
Speaker 1: six or seventh round of this class. Well, are there
Speaker 1: some more guys we can talk about in that range?
Speaker 1: I'm curious because you mentioned some of those. You know,
Speaker 1: the A. J. Dillon is the Derrick Henry comparison coming
Speaker 1: into the NFL, and maybe there are some more guys
Speaker 1: that can contribute as flex out receivers or guys that
Speaker 1: maybe they really excel and pass protection or something that's
Speaker 1: just a little more one dimensional. Do you have any
Speaker 1: guys in that day three range, maybe even you d
Speaker 1: f a range that you think, Okay, this guy can
Speaker 1: do this very very well. We can bring him into
Speaker 1: our program. He can excel as he kind of learns
Speaker 1: his rookie season to do that in the NFL and
Speaker 1: give us some special teams work as well. Oh uh,
Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson would probably jump out to me. He's kind
Speaker 1: of a hybrid receiver running back. He's played both positions
Speaker 1: at Memphis, and I heard kind of an interesting comparison
Speaker 1: for him this week, and that's Deebo Samuel where you
Speaker 1: don't really you don't really subscribe to a certain position
Speaker 1: with him. He's just just a weapon. You know. You
Speaker 1: can put him in the slot, you can put him
Speaker 1: in the backfield. He's got four or four speed, he's
Speaker 1: got ball skills. I mean, even if you keep him
Speaker 1: at running back again, because he has experience at receiver,
Speaker 1: he can run the entire route tree and and do
Speaker 1: it a lot better a lot of other running backs.
Speaker 1: He's six oh two thirty with again, just blinding speed.
Speaker 1: I don't exactly know where his position in the NFL
Speaker 1: is going to be, but I almost think that's an
Speaker 1: advantage just kind of in this new age NFL where
Speaker 1: you just you put him on the field and you
Speaker 1: figure it out. Uh. And I think the Dolphins staff
Speaker 1: is actually in a pretty good position to do that,
Speaker 1: just because you have a lot of guys that are
Speaker 1: experienced in experimentation on that staff, especially on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, but in the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, to where it's like, hey, just give me
Speaker 1: a guy who's an athlete with a versatile skill set
Speaker 1: and we'll figure it out. So Antonio Gibson to me
Speaker 1: is really intriguing as probably a Day three guy who
Speaker 1: could be a key contributor honestly from day one. And
Speaker 1: does he have returned ability in his game? And if
Speaker 1: if not or if yes, who are some other guys
Speaker 1: that might be able to come in and contribute in
Speaker 1: the kick return game. Oh, you know, that's a good one,
Speaker 1: particularly at running back. Let me go through my list
Speaker 1: here and see who kind of pops up. J. J.
Speaker 1: Taylor from Arizona I think is an interesting one. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's small, he's five, but he is super quick in
Speaker 1: the open field. Yeah, I mean you can see where
Speaker 1: it's he plays bigger than he is, but I mean
Speaker 1: he's so quick, so explosive in short areas. I think
Speaker 1: he can work definitely as a punt return er. Um Man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go through my whole list here and
Speaker 1: see who else we got. Uh Wu Olney Lui from TCU.
Speaker 1: He's a he's honestly going to be a fullback. But
Speaker 1: I think in terms of special teams on coverage units,
Speaker 1: he's really really good. He's a very good athlete. He's
Speaker 1: again he's this is gonna be like a seventh round
Speaker 1: U d f A type guy. But special teams unit
Speaker 1: are made up of those guys where it's they give
Speaker 1: me a big, strong athlete that that it has experienced
Speaker 1: in punt coverage and next thing you know, they end
Speaker 1: up playing for your team for ten years because they
Speaker 1: harnessed that skill set. So I mean, oh, Jamichael Hasty
Speaker 1: two out of Baylor, ultra quick. Again, not the biggest guy,
Speaker 1: five eight, about two hundred pounds, but he's got really
Speaker 1: good fee an he has return experience as well, So
Speaker 1: all through probably after round five there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: million of them where if you're trying to fill out
Speaker 1: special teams, if you're trying to find a third down back,
Speaker 1: to be trying to find a return man, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of them in this group. I like you to
Speaker 1: mention of the fullback there, because the Dolphins technically have
Speaker 1: three players on the roster who played fullback last year
Speaker 1: in Chandler Cox who is rostered as a fullback, Christian Wilkins,
Speaker 1: who kind of touchdown passed as a fullback last year,
Speaker 1: and the Land and Roberts running through guys faces with
Speaker 1: the Patriots last Yep, he comes over to Miami as
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Obviously. He is Brett Coleman, the creator, an
Speaker 1: analyst and host of the Film Room on YouTube. Go
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Speaker 1: I promise you're gonna learn something every time Brett talks
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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at Brett Coleman. That's spelled k O
Speaker 1: L L M A n N. It's that second end
Speaker 1: that will get you. Brett, thanks a bunch of doing this, man,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. And there he goes. Brett
Speaker 1: Coleman breaking down this running back class and telling you
Speaker 1: why Jordan Howard was a great free agent signing for
Speaker 1: your Miami Dolphins. We have plenty of draft content coming
Speaker 1: your way this week and next week and basically leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft. On April Thursday, eight o'clock Eastern time,
Speaker 1: going to be a virtual situation, and remember, the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins Facebook account will have a live virtual draft session
Speaker 1: for fans to join. Ask questions. We're gonna have film analysis,
Speaker 1: player interviews. We're gonna have a Q and a session.
Speaker 1: You're gonna see plenty of me on that broadcast, on
Speaker 1: that virtual display of Dolphins fans gathering from all over
Speaker 1: the country, all over the world to celebrate the annual party,
Speaker 1: the annual holiday that is the NFL Draft, and us,
Speaker 1: your Miami Dolphins, lead the way with four team picks
Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft. On tomorrow's podcast, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: Trevor Sikima of the Draft Network. He's gonna break down
Speaker 1: wide receivers. On Thursday, we're going back to the Fins flashback.
Speaker 1: We're gonna break down the two thousand two Dolphins and
Speaker 1: Broncos game, my all time favorite Dolphins game. Personally. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a Ronde Gadston on to talk about that
Speaker 1: football game. Then we return on Friday as we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk to Benjamin Solak of the Draft Network about the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of this year's draft class. You won't want to
Speaker 1: miss that. He has put in the time and the
Speaker 1: hours and the long process of charting all the top
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this year's draft class so we can have
Speaker 1: a comprehensive view of the best quarterbacks in this year's
Speaker 1: draft class. You won't want to miss that. Next week,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have Ben Finel of the Eye and the
Speaker 1: Sky podcast with fran Duffy and the Philadelphia Eagles. They
Speaker 1: do all kinds of great draft work there as well.
Speaker 1: He's gonna join me to talk about defensive backs. Working
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