1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how Stuff 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: My name is Robert Lamb and my name is Julie Douglas. 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: You know we're in the studio here. We just recorded 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: an episode on yoga and the benefits of yoga, the 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: risk of yoga, a lot of the science that we 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: find in yoga, and in that episode we refer out 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: to an additional episode which we're recording now, Yoga Sex Magic, 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: because there is a there's a lot to be said 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: about about sex and yoga, about the sensual side of yoga, 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: the sexual benefits of yoga and its roots in mysticism 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: and UH central experience. And don't worry, we're not going 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: to talk about stings sex life here, um, because he 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: has often talked about tantra yoga right as being a 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: part of his UH deal deal. Yeah, I was gonna 16 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: say magic sauce, but that just doesn't sound right, Um, 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: But we are going to talk about I guess some 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: people would say it's yoga's dirty little secret, but the 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is is that it has its 20 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: roots in tantric yoga, which is associated with sexuality. As 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: you say, and celebrating sexuality and uh, and a lot 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: of mysticism too. Yeah. So let's uh, let's let's let's 23 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: run back the clock here. Let's let's discuss ancient history. Um. So, 24 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: hindu Hinduism is the oldest of the dominant world religions 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: today and arguably the most difficult to summarize. Okay, the 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: roots of Hinduism stretch back a good five thousand years 27 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: through the soil of human history. And that's the soil 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: that's just right, with variations with with different important texts, 29 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: poetic epics, sex diversions, uh, God's goddesses, religious rituals, it's 30 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: just there. There is an entire rich culture there around Hinduism, 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: and any attempts to summarize it or would be incomplete 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: that it would be a podcast into itself. But it's 33 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: very nature. What is it proposed to do. It aims 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: to free the practitioner of Hinduism from something called the 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: wheel of sam Sara. And I feel like I've mentioned 36 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: this before in terms of Buddhism, and of course there's 37 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: a lot of crossover between Hinduism and Budism. Sam Sara 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: is the endless cycle of death and rebirth that sees 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: the human um consciousness or soul flow and rise and 40 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: fall through varieties of tragic, doomed, and ephemeral lives. It's 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the idea that it's not the sort of vague Western 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: idea of of reincarnation where it's like, oh, I'm not 43 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: really gonna die. I'm gonna come back as a cat 44 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: or something that would be great. And I'm not saying 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: don't find some comfort in that thought. But the idea 46 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: of sam Sara is more that I'm going to continue 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: to live lives that are ultimately going to be filled 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: with pain in one way, shape or another, even though 49 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: even the loftier, more pleasant life that I of are 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: going to end in death and may end up shooting 51 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: me down to a lower level of existence. So I 52 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: might be uh uh, and I'm borrowing more from the 53 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: some of the Tibetan Buddhist ideas here, But I might 54 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 1: live life as a demigod in the next life and 55 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: everything it will be awesome, but I'll kind of be 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: awful at the same time and earn myself a position 57 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: in the lower hells in the life after that. So 58 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: the idea is that you want to eventually rid yourself 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: of this wheel. You know, it's kind of like, yeah, 60 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of think of it this way. It's like 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: the person who's in one bad relationship after the other 62 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: and they desperately want to free themselves with that cycle 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: and find a good relationship. That's kind of what we 64 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: have here. And in that good relationship, that liberation from 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: the wheel of sam sara is what Hindus call maksha, 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: which means release or liberation. So this carnival ride sucks. 67 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: I want to get off of it. That's what That's 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: what Hinduism that's ultimately trying to do UM and we 69 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: might not do it in this lifetime or the next um, 70 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: but we need a we need a game plan, right, 71 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: so we get into something called trim Marga, which is 72 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: the three path. So we have Karma marga the way 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: of action, Jannana marga the way of knowledge, and Bakti 74 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: marga the way of devotion. So this is where yoga 75 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: gets involved here. Yoga means discipline uh or regime or yoke, 76 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: and it derives from the Sanskrit route for yoke yoke, 77 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: which also means union, you know, And we talked about 78 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: this in the other podcast. This union between mind and body. Yeah, 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: you know, Jesus sent our example again, instead of a 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: mind riding the body, this man riding the horse. It 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: is the man horse, it is the body. Uh, the 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: body mind union. And this is where that intermingling of 83 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: sexuality and spirituality happens as well. This is the same 84 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: sort of yoke, and this is where we're really sort 85 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: of driving the path toward tantra, right right. So within Hinduism, 86 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the word yoga is often used interchangeably with marga. It 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: involves far more than just poses, and it includes meditation, fast, um, 88 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: various asthetic practices, ethical behavior, you know, intense study in 89 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: some cases, and and it's one of the six schools 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: of Orthodox philosophy, and often just sort of a generic 91 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: term for spiritual discipline. So just culturally, when you look 92 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: at yoga in the East versus yoga in the West, 93 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: there's there there are a number of differences that arise. 94 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little about yoga in the path 95 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: because they're really getting into the tantra thing. We have 96 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: to again get into examples of of what is the 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: the yogi of three years ago, like versus the yogi 98 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: that you might find, Uh, you know in the San 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: Francisco Bay area. Well, I mean even like in the 100 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: eighteen thirties, Broad William Jobrad, who wrote the Science of Yoga, 101 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: brings up Rama Kashna and this was one of Hindu 102 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: Hinduism's great modern saints. Um, there's this idea that he 103 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: was always in such a constant state of ecstasy. And 104 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: we say ecstasy, we are sort of making a little 105 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: uh hat tip here to orgasm as well. Um, or 106 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: at least a sense of transcendence. Um. Well lepique more 107 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: does the French say um, which is a little deaf 108 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: right transcendence? And and again just to mention the body 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: mind connection. And when we're talking about body and mind 110 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: in a religious context, you can think of it, you know, 111 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: body and spirit. And so something intense that happens in 112 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: the body just by virtue of being intense has to 113 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: have a connection to the spirit as well. So it 114 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: would seem obvious then that an orgasm would be of 115 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: interest to someone seeking to understand the mind. And you 116 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: think it's weird that we're saying orgasm when we were 117 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: talking about religion or just even meditating or being in 118 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: a state of ecstasy without some sort of you know 119 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: slap and tickle involved. Well, we're going to talk more 120 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: about that slap and tickle. Yeah, you know, we'll talk 121 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more about that later and connect at all. 122 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: But um, I did want to bring up Rama Krishna 123 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: because apparently he was in such a constant state of 124 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: bliss that he had assystance to tell him when to 125 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: eat and breathe. So this is this is intense stuff. 126 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: There is this intermingling of these two concepts of sexuality 127 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: and mysticism or um spirituality, and in Hinduism is that 128 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: this is not unusual. We usually think about our more 129 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: western religions and how these are mutually exclusive things, but 130 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: this is not in some Eastern religions UM. And this 131 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: is this idea too, that the spiritual energy UH lies 132 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: dormant at the base of the spine until it was 133 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: activated and channeled upward to the brain to produce enlightenment 134 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: through the chakras, these various circles in the body through 135 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: which the energy flows. Right, So the state of ecstasy 136 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: turns out to be a state of enlightenment. So Yogi's 137 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: and centuries passed. UH. We mentioned this a little bit 138 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: in the other podcast about yoga. But um, they might 139 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: be poly men who would legitimately give you a little 140 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: more insight into the spirit. Yeah, they might be mystic 141 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: carneys who would bury themselves alive for money. They might 142 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: contort their nude ashmerrored bodies in the street. They might 143 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: smoke dope and kidnap children. They might run protection rackets 144 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: and uh and some were capable of supposedly uniting the 145 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: male and female aspects of the universe through sexual sensation. 146 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: So they really kind of ran the gambit from really 147 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: holy to really uh skiez I mean it. I mean 148 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: that That's one of the things that Broad really does 149 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: a great job of pointing out is that yoga is 150 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: especially historically so much broader than what you would encounter 151 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: at the y m c A or the local yoga studio. 152 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: It runs the gambit between like just total enlightenment and madness, 153 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: between between physical health and debilitating or life threatening injury. 154 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: And uh and I mean it's just it's just there's 155 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: there's a rich world there and uh and and and 156 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: out of that also comes this uh this uh subject 157 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: of tantric yoga in tantra. Yeah, and I wanted to 158 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: bring up half a yoga, which we all if you 159 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: practice yoga. Um, this is a branch of tantra yoga. 160 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: And we'll talk a little bit more about tantra yoga 161 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: in a second Um. But the tan tric agenda again 162 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: was reaching enlightenment as fast as you could. And William J. 163 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Broad brings up the fact that there's a fifteenth century 164 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: book called half a Yoga Product car and it instructs 165 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 1: and poses but also talks about stimulating genitals. Right again, 166 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: in this this agenda to try to reach enlightenment, and 167 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: one line from the book says, press the parent paraneum, 168 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: that's an orogenous area between the genitals, known as the 169 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: taint in some circles. Press the taint with the heel 170 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: of the foot. It opens the doors of liberation. So 171 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: I mean these this is a specific text telling people, 172 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, how to proceed in this path enlightenment, which 173 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: has to do with sexuality. Yeah. And if I remember correctly, 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: hatha means violent and not in the sense that it 175 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: is violent um yoga and that it's like you know, 176 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: karate chaps and stuff, but more about the speed and 177 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: the intensity of getting there. Right. This is a path 178 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: to this enlightenment again, so tantra um sexy side of yoga, 179 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: but also the sexy roots of yoga. Um. It rises 180 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: to prominence within Hindu traditions in medieval India. So this 181 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: is around the fifth century UM Common era, but it's 182 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: root mysterious roots may go back even even farther into 183 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,599 Speaker 1: the past, into the practices and traditions of the Indus civilization, 184 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: which would have been thirty three hundred to undred BC. 185 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: So UM. The idea here is that the beliefs were 186 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: present in this earlier culture than they go underground for 187 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: thousands of years and then they evolve back up into 188 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: into practice in eastern and southern India. And Tantra is 189 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: based on the Sanskrit word meaning that which extends knowledge. 190 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: And uh, it's the stated purpose of tantra isn't sexual 191 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: bliss in and of itself or but rather spiritual bliss 192 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: and enlightenment and ultimately uh moksha that we were talking 193 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: about early. Ultimately the idea is to uh find liberation 194 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: from this endless wheel of suffering. And I'm here's the 195 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: other thing about tantra is that it does not subscribe 196 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: to the cast system. So and it was free then 197 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: of the Brahmin priest that we're ruling over women's democratizing 198 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: sexuality but also spirituality. So it had a lot of 199 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: people who were very interested in being a part of it. Um. 200 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: The I guess you would say the problem mom or 201 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: as William Jay Broad puts it, is that eventually the 202 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: h it becomes so associated with with sex that's sort 203 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: of overshadowed by this and and people begin to think 204 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: of it as okay, well it's not just you know 205 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: this spiritual awareness or enlightenment. But you know a lot 206 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: of people are getting kind of randy here, yeah now, 207 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: and and and you know, squirreling away from the path. 208 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah now, now, why are they getting randy? Or what 209 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: is the stated reason? Well, historically you had right handed 210 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: tantra and you had left handed tantra and uh, and 211 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: that doesn't have anything to do with like right or 212 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: left handed being bad or one being dirty. That has 213 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: to do with like the position of God and goddess 214 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: um in a typical iconography. But right handed guy tantra 215 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: was more traditional and in terms of like worshiping the goddess, 216 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: whereas left handed tantra involved the ritual use of taboo 217 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: items in Hinduism specifically these five ms. You had Masma 218 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: which is eat uh, nazia no mean mazia, fish, mudra, 219 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: parched grain which was seen as an aphrodisiac, h Maja 220 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: which is wine, and then mathuna ritual sexual intercourse. So 221 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,239 Speaker 1: what you would have happened is you would have this 222 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: this group of individuals and uh and generally these are 223 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: people that already have some exposure to to yoga or 224 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: do yoga principles. This is not just random people on 225 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: the street. They come into a sacred space in the 226 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: presence of you know, some sort of a guru or 227 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: an adept, and it will be in on on an 228 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 1: auspicious to day. You know, that's something that lines up um, 229 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, numerologically important in m in the tradition. And 230 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: you'll have male and female participants who were called tanto 231 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: riquez ritually bathe, dress and generally you know, doll up 232 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: and purify through uh meditation and reciting mantras, and then 233 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: they form into male and female couples. Then they they 234 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: consume these various things ritually, have a little meat, a 235 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: little fish, a little parched grain, a little wine, and 236 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: then they will they will unite sexually say, and then 237 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: it becomes a key party. Well, no, I mean, I 238 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: mean that can certainly that can be the the charge. 239 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: But it's not just like, all right, we're done with 240 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: the We're done with the meat and the fish. Let's 241 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: let's get down to business. There's also a lot of 242 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: the mantras continue and the meditative aspects um uh continue 243 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: and U and the in fact, it's the pronunciation of 244 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: the mantras. Uh supposedly turns the female partner into an 245 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,239 Speaker 1: embodiment of the goddess and the male becomes an embodiment 246 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: of the gods. So on a mythic level, they're enacting 247 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: the cosmological union of Shiva and shotkey of Deva and 248 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Devi and uh. It takes on this larger cosmic proportion. 249 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: And and again it involves you know, intense meditation, intricate 250 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: yogurt postures, the visualization of these yantras, which are kind 251 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: of like a mandala that represents divine female energy, kind 252 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: of this um geometric design that you envision in your 253 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: head um and the attempt to stay immobile and to 254 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: facilitate mental processes in the prevention or delay of orgasm. Well, 255 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: and and this is something we'll talk about a little 256 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: bit to this delay of orgasm, which is also um 257 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: extending the Enlightenment period right this ecstasy. So this is 258 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: when I brought up staying. I brought up this idea 259 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: that you could do breathwork, you could do meditation in 260 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: order to um, to stave off the inevitable yea, before 261 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: you get that lapite mort um. And they're generally talking 262 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: not about like imagine a race course with a start 263 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: in the finish line, with the finish line being orgasm. 264 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: The idea is not to slam on the brakes before 265 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: you get to the orgasm, but to slow things down 266 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: to the point to where you're in a continuous, in 267 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: a continuous state of the almost crossing the line. Yeah. Um. 268 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. In the West, tantra really becomes 269 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: synonymous with sexual debauchery. And this is where Broad in 270 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: his book says Tantra reaches a natier with um, an 271 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: alleged cannibal sect of Yogi's the a Gory who quote 272 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: eate the flesh of human skulls, drank urine liquor from 273 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: human souls, lived in cremation grounds and dunghills, and defiled 274 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: all social social convention supposedly to court public disapproval as 275 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: tests a humility. And none of those things are wrong 276 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: in and of themselves. But I mean now I mean that, 277 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: I mean there are you could you know, drinking urine, 278 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: drinking like or even drinking from human skulls. I mean 279 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: that's you see, these things occur in various traditions. Well, 280 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: the problem is is that India in nineteen twenties starts 281 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: to realize that you know, they have a political agenda 282 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: right there. They want to become independent, um, they want 283 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: to rise up. So they can't really have this whole 284 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: light cannibalist yoga sect representing them because what's coming out 285 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: of India, Um, you know, one of the exports we 286 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: see is this idea of yoga. So it sort of 287 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: gets this history of the sexuality particularly gets whitewashed because 288 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: you have um Indian nationalists like Gunang we talked about. 289 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: This is someone who really started to try to research 290 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: yoga in earnest in the nine twenties, and he began 291 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: to distinguish half a yoga from tantra, sanitizing yoga's association 292 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: with its roots. But the interesting thing here is that 293 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: you end up engaging in the duality of oh, there's 294 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: the good, there's the good yoga, and then there's the 295 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: bad yoga. It's like the here's the here's the the 296 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: law abiding yoga, and here's the road yoga. But and actually, 297 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: when we talk about the road yoga to we're talking 298 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: about something called kundalini, So we talk about contra yoga tantra. 299 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: This is one of the branches Kundalinia is practiced today. 300 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: Although as far as I've never been to some sort 301 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: of orgiastic class in it, I've just been We've talked 302 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: about the metaphors of the snake and the energy cooling 303 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: up through the spine. Yeah. Well, um, it's it's interesting 304 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: when you look into like why are they engaging? Why 305 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: would a ton trick um yoga prented practitioner engage in 306 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: the consumption of these five ms? And you know what 307 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: does it all get down to. Aside from just this 308 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: idea of well, let's use sexual sensation body sensation to 309 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: to you know, channel the spirit. Um, it's this idea 310 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: too that you have these things that are forbidden, their taboo, right, 311 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: So there you're human, these temptations are going to be there. 312 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: These things are there in your life. So you can 313 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: either run from them, um and try to deny them, 314 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: or you can take them and try to do something 315 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: spiritually beneficial with them. So that's that's part of it, 316 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: taking these negatives or potential negatives and spinning them into 317 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,719 Speaker 1: a spiritual positive. So you're saying with within the Hindu 318 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: tradition that that not one thing is entirely good or bad. 319 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: Everything everyone contains both. Yeah, because on one on one 320 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: level again the direction of otherwise dangerous desires into acts 321 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: of devotion. And then there's this idea too that it 322 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: awakens participants to the non duality of the world. Okay, 323 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: the idea, there's this important idea in Hinduism. The world 324 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: is a single, indivisible reality uh known as Brahmin. And 325 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: to see it uh and to see the world as 326 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: anything else than that, to see it as anything that's 327 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: divided and composed of parts, is illusion. And you want 328 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: to see through that illusion and see that a glimpse 329 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: and understand experience the reality of Brahmen. So if you 330 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: see the world as oh, eliminates good and wine is bad, uh, 331 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: you know are not. No, sex is great and sex 332 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: is bad. And destructive. Then you're you're seeing a divided 333 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: vision of the world, and you're not going to sing 334 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: brahmin or or even yoga yoke right, the union of union. 335 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: It's not about division. So I find that that very fascinating. No, 336 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a wonderful context to talk 337 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: about this. Um, we should take a break. When we 338 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna get down to the science of 339 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,199 Speaker 1: sex and yoga, or as I like to call it, 340 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: the yoga beast with two backs. Yes, so, UM going 341 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: to pigeon post, listen to this message. And when we 342 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: get back, look all right, we're back in. Come out 343 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: of pigeons and go back into child's post. So let's 344 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: let's continue. We've we've covered a lot of ground already 345 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: talking about the the roots of yoga, the basics of Hinduism, Uh, Tantra, 346 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: the five ends, why you should do them, um, what 347 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: spiritual good they can do in the long run. Yeah, 348 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about Cundolini for a second, because 349 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: we talked about this. We're talking about tantra, its role 350 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: in tantra, the idea of the snake coiling at the 351 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: base of the spine, this energy that rises up um 352 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: and and actually cundalini um is sanscrit for coiled or 353 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: she who is coiled, and it really is a metaphor 354 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: of rebirth because of it's the snake's ability to to 355 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: shed its own skin, right, and it has a high 356 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: status in Hinduism. Um. But I wanted to mention that 357 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Swiss psychiatrist Carl Young was really intrigued by Kundalini and 358 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: he wrote of a twenty five year old woman whose 359 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: symptoms included a wave of physical turmoil that rose from 360 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: her paraneum. Would you call it the taint to her uterus, 361 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: to her bladder and then eventually to the crown of 362 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: her head? Okay, this is classic Kundalini imagery right here. 363 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: And so he found it really curious that instead of 364 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: her fearing um what was happening these physical manifestations, she 365 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: actually really enjoyed it, and he came to understand it 366 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: though in terms of of an induced psychotic state, he 367 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: thought of it as a very destructive force. And in fact, 368 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: if you ever pick up or thumb through his book 369 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: called The Red Book, which is a bunch of illustrations 370 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: by him but of his dreams, you'll see the snake 371 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: in there as this sort of destroyer or this this 372 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: menacing um symbolism in his own dreams. But I wanted 373 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: to bring that up because it's so close to what 374 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: we've talked about before, and it's this idea of thinking off. 375 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: We've discussed this in the Female Orgasm podcast, but it 376 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: was called the Orgasm Wars, and um, we talked about 377 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: this woman named Barbara Correlli's who claimed to have trained 378 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: herself to climax on demand, okay, without any sort of stimulation, 379 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: and uh, she's been thinking herself off for a number 380 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 1: of years and she actually demonstrated her ability to do 381 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: this when she went into an m R I and 382 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: then she came to climax several times while researchers at 383 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Rutgers University studied her brain patterns and they saw, indeed 384 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: that it was matching the types of brain patterns that 385 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: you see in in orgasms people who actually have had 386 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: sex with each other and undergo m R at the 387 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: same time. It seems a little awkward, but UM, so 388 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: I bring this up because William Abroad also talks about 389 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: thinking off, but he also talks about this idea that, um, 390 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: the same thing is sometimes happening in yoga practitioners brains, 391 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: particularly when they're meditating, and meditation and yoga of corpse 392 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: go hand in hand. Yeah, And he he talks about 393 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: the Anonda Margot sect which was studied by James C. 394 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: Corby UM. This is a sect of UM yoga practitioners 395 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: and they underwent this this study at Stanford University, and 396 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: he had a control group of nonpractitioners all meditate, and 397 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: then he had the Anonda Market sect also meditating. And 398 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: just so you know, Anonda Market totally hardcore. We're talking 399 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: about three and a half hour long meditation sessions daily, 400 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: very rigorous. So what happened is that they had the 401 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: both of the groups. They had them um relaxed for 402 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: twenty minutes, and then they had them gives them attention 403 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: to their breathing for twenty minutes, and then twenty minutes 404 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: just for straight up meditation. So the cool thing about 405 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: this is that the control group that they show all 406 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: sorts of signs of classic relaxation, right for instance, their 407 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: blood pressure drops. But our friends over here, the are yogis, 408 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: are all sorts of crazy things are happening with them. 409 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: They're breathing really rapidly they begin to sweat. What they're 410 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: seeing the researchers realized, is this autonomous arousal very much 411 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: the same sort of thing that you would see with 412 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: someone who was approaching an orgasm. In fact, one of 413 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: the participants had a heartbeat of one and twenty beats 414 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: per minute, which broad says is very similar to frenzy 415 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: the lovers. Yeah, so there is an idea that through UM, 416 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: through meditation, but also through yoga like posts like cobra, 417 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: in which your pelvic region is on the floor you 418 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: place a lot of pressure there that this is stimulating 419 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: certain hormones in the body and you begin to get 420 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: this benefit of UM. I guess you could say, I 421 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 1: don't want to say I love cocktail of hormones surging 422 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: through your body, but there there's direct evidence that this 423 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: can actually increase, uh, your libido and there I mean, 424 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: and there's certain poses to write that I have been 425 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: shown to have a more of a link to to 426 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: the to the sexual side of yoga. Right, Oh, yeah, definitely, 427 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: I mean cobra. As I said, bow pose is another 428 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: one and without now Cobra for those that I don't know, 429 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: this is one where it's like you're you're lying on 430 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,719 Speaker 1: your stomach and your hands to side here, and then 431 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: you sort of the front of you, your your torso 432 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: sort of rises up like a snake. Yeah, your hands 433 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: on your side and they're pushing your your upper torso 434 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: up and so you are putting a lot of pressure 435 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: in your pelvic region. But what they're also finding is 436 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: that one of the hormones that is taking up quite 437 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: a bit is testosterone and uh I and men and women. 438 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: And in fact, in one study they saw a woman's 439 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: testosterone go up by And this is incredible because heretofore 440 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: they had decided that yoga was lowering men's testoster room level. 441 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 1: And this was based on a study in which it 442 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: wasn't um yoga that was lowering the testosterone level. It 443 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: was this vegetarian diet that the practitioners were at the 444 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: same time, uh and they had a bunch of soy 445 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: in their diet and that was lowering lowering the testosterone. 446 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: So that's sort of a myth that broad bust here 447 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 1: and says no, like this, testosterone can actually increase your 448 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: libido as well, for both men and women. So I 449 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: also wanted to mention too that that broad says, there's 450 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: a clinical study of more than one men and women 451 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: whose self report their sex lives before and after they 452 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: undertook yoga in the study, and across the board, they 453 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: all reported increased arousal, better orgasms, and more overall satisfaction. 454 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: So one of the things I do want to point 455 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 1: out that broad points out is that when they are 456 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: conducting these um, these studies and this research, they are 457 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: they're very aware of creating really good solid studies, UM 458 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: at least now in trying to study this into earnest 459 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is that they're they're 460 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: looking at all the different ways in which people practice 461 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: yoga in their habits, and just like any sort of study, 462 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: you want to get a good rate of participation from 463 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: people who are healthy who um you know, are not 464 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, seven yoga practitioners, so that they sway the results. UM. 465 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: So they're trying to get this idea, this baseline of like, Okay, 466 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: if average Joe walks into yoga class, what does that 467 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: mean in terms of average Joe's or average Jill's uh, 468 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: sexual proclivity um down the road. And so this is 469 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 1: really interesting data that's coming from this. And then he 470 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: does admit that there's not a ton of it. Again, 471 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: there's not people who have said, oh hey, we can 472 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: solve this whole viagra thing with just doing yoga, you know. 473 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's not the claim that he's saying, but 474 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: he is pointing to a body of mounting evidence that 475 00:27:55,680 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: yoga very well could be um a sort of nature 476 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: is viagra. I also found it interesting in his book, 477 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: William Dave Brod goes into the the sexual aspects of 478 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: yoga by discussing various sex scandals that have arisen with 479 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: with yoga gurus. And the main ones who was talking 480 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: about are are some of the earlier U S dudes 481 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: who had large followings. Generally we're talking like guys in 482 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: the fifties sixties, and uh, and suddenly there are all 483 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: these charges that they have behaved inappropriately with the young 484 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: women or even not so young women under their charge. Well, 485 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: in Broad's point is like fifties sixties, I mean, okay, 486 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: first of all, there's there's this whole other issue of 487 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: power structure and taking advantage of someone. But also like 488 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: fifties sixties, these dudes aren't taking viagra. Like there's there's 489 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: a certain vitality here that he's saying that plays into um, 490 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, practicing yoga. Yeah, and and you do see. 491 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean actually there there have been recent scandals involving 492 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: yoga gurus as well, but uh, you can't look at 493 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: it just as yoga is the sexualizing thing and it 494 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: just turns men into monsters. Well, there have been some 495 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: female vous too that there have been charges against who 496 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: say that they are um taking advantage of their position 497 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: in order to to gain lovers and uh, sexual encounters. 498 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, but that's what people, that's what especially 499 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: men do. I mean, it's it's like the President Clinton 500 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: thing all over again. You put a man in a 501 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: position of power and you put these impressionable young women 502 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: in his charge, especially if you have a mystic aspect there, 503 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: which is a largely unavoidable in a in a yoga setting. Well, 504 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: I think the problem is when your guru is saying that, 505 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, you should practice abstinence is not doing the same. 506 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: So that's that's really what the issue is here. People 507 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: will say, well, you know, that's that's horribly hypocritical of you. 508 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: But I mean even the maharishi John Lennon said that, um, 509 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: the Rosemaries baby mia Faro that he had tried to 510 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: molest her, and so they actually that was one of 511 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: the reasons why they broke away from the maharishi because 512 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: they were like, dude, you're full of it, and being 513 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: full of it is is very again, very in touch 514 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: with some of the roots of yoga, because, as we 515 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: discussed in the other podcast, you go, you go back 516 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: in time and look at the look at the roots 517 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: of yoga, and you you find a lot of a 518 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: fair amount of deception of Charlatanism at times, I mean 519 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: outrageous claims that that yoga can make you live forever, 520 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: that can can defeat evil, and can cure diseases, things 521 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,560 Speaker 1: that simply aren't so within the confines of scientific reality. 522 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: What I think is interesting, though, is this this again 523 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: when I say this mounting evidence, this data, that that 524 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: yoga can inform a person's um sexual identity, even like 525 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: there's there are some claims of neo tantrics that broad 526 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: talks about, this idea that people may begin to have 527 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: an alternative sexuality. We're off becomes the norm, so it 528 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: becomes kind of like an a sexuality that is um 529 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: that is inward looking. I mean, I mean it's just 530 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: mental masturbation really too. I mean that's that's really sort 531 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: of taking it down to a notch that it probably 532 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve. But that's or maybe it does. But that's 533 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: sort of what we're talking about here, a certain a 534 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: sexuality like it's like more like a psycho masturbation really, 535 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: like think of it in terms of like not psycho 536 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: but psycho. Yeah. Yeah, So yeah, there you have it. 537 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: There's a nice little intro into the into the sexual 538 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: magical paths of cannibalistic path Now, if you're if you're 539 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: sitting there wondering, you're like, WHOA, I didn't turn into 540 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: this episode that was going to have contra and you 541 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: didn't give me a single um tip for tontric Sexum, 542 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. We're not gonna do it. 543 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: But you are in luck because if you go to 544 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: how Stuff Works and you type in tantra or tontric 545 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: into the search bar, you will find a Discovery Health 546 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: article written by the staff of Discovery Health that goes 547 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: into some of the specific specifics of modern tantric recommendations, 548 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: like they're not really telling you like how what order 549 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: to eat your fish and meat and wine or any 550 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: of that. But but some some recommendations and I talk 551 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: about the slap and tickle and one of them, at 552 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: least the definition of some of the things they talk 553 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: about are very sort of straightforward, kind of more you know, 554 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: like they're some of the tips are based and like 555 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: brings some eroticism into your into your sex life for 556 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: a light of candle, look into her eyes, that kind 557 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: of thing, and where you're kind of like that doesn't 558 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: really seem all that mystical. That's just kind of I 559 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: mean to some people, that's new information now. But there 560 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: there is one that I believe that's the discovery health. 561 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: If I think if you put tantra in there, it 562 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: will it actually talks about the mechanics of it and 563 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: when we're talking about drawing out the ecstasy part of it, Yeah, 564 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: and it gets into it gets into breathing, and it 565 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: gets into this idea again yoga means yoke and union 566 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: and uh. And so when you you take these yoga, uh, 567 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: these these yoga principles into the bedroom, you're you're dealing 568 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: with situation of people coming together being aware of their 569 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: their own breaths and in their own bodies and what 570 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: they're doing uh, and then using that information to slow 571 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: things down as they approach the precipice of of of orgasm. There, 572 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: so that's out a little death, a little bit assances 573 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: ectas to I know, just the in French fancy. Yeah. 574 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: So so look that up if you want some more 575 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: information on that. Um, if you want to know more 576 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: about the science of yoga, check and are And also 577 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: if you want to hear more just about Julian eyes 578 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: thoughts on yoga and or and and and I'll check 579 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: out the other episode that we did call the Science 580 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: of down Dog. Check out the book The Science of 581 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: Yoga by William J. Broad It's excellent. We can't recommend 582 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: that highly enough. And if you want to know a 583 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: little more about Hindu tradition, was a great book by 584 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: Mark W. Muse that's m U. E. S. S. E. 585 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Called The Hindu Traditions a concise introduction and it's just 586 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: a really good, like well laying out illustrated guide to 587 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: generally what Hindu ritual consists of. It's a great book. 588 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: I have a recommend that as well. So let's call 589 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 1: the robot over here alright. Listener by the name of 590 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Peter writes and it says, Hello, Robert and Julie. Was 591 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: just listening to your podcast about life in microgravity. One 592 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: thing that got me thinking, uh was the off topic 593 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: comment about sour dough. How did we end up talking 594 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: about sour dough? We talked. We talked about how people 595 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: living off Earth would only visit us when they needed 596 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: to come back and get genetic material, and that we 597 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: would be like the sour dough bread in San Francisco 598 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: that provides the mother dough for sour bread. Sour dough bread, okay, 599 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: at least well Peter goes on. He says, a sour 600 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: dough mother can be simply created by mixing flour and 601 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: water in a bowl and letting natural yeasts in the 602 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: atmosphere start the fermentation. As this can take a while, 603 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: most breadmasters keep the original pot alive by simply adding 604 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: more flour and water to the bowl once they have 605 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: removed enough for the current batch of bread. Enjoying listening 606 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: to your podcast as I am having to lie flat 607 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: with my eyes pointed at the floor to aid my 608 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: detached retina to recover, share and enjoy. Peter, who's in 609 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 1: the Plymouth few K Yeah, I feel like I saw 610 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: an article on some sort of service like if you 611 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: can't um soup up your bread or feed it, someone 612 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: will for you. I don't like the baby, said your mother. Yeah, mother, 613 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: mother bread all right. We also heard from Zach Zack 614 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: right soon and says, hi, I just finished listening to 615 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: your Planetary Internet episode and had some thoughts on the 616 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: speed of light the legs, specifically in sci fi. In 617 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: the majority of sci fi I have watched or red 618 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 1: that deals with interstellar travel, uh, neglect's interstellar communications and 619 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: that they are either not a major plot point or 620 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: a magically instantaneous uh example Injur's game and uh and 621 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: then he got it goes on to say, one series 622 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: where this is addressed, however, is done in the Doom universe. 623 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: A large number of communications are carried out by actual 624 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: physical messengers, writing on starships and delivering the message directly. 625 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: These were the best examples of communications sci fi that 626 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: I could think up with think of. Thanks for the 627 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: great podcast. Um so so yeah, that's and I've forgotten 628 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: about that detail from the Don universe. But they didn't 629 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: have the means to actually send the data, but they 630 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: had the means to send the ships. So they just 631 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: include an actual courier on board. We also heard from 632 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: listener Jim Jim Wrightson and says, uh and he's referring 633 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: to the zero G episode of micro Gravity and talking 634 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: about movies with zero G in space. He says, Robert 635 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: and Julie, you mentioned that two thousand and one was 636 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: the only space movie that you knew of that maintains 637 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: zero G. I thought of three More two thousand and ten, 638 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: a sequel to two thousand and one. It's kind of 639 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: obvious now, I guess had zero G as well, but 640 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: there are some scenes where it's not quite obvious whether 641 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: you're in part of the ship that zero G or 642 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: using rotational gravity. Apollo thirteen had zero G for a 643 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: historical reasons. They voto set on the Vomit Comet and 644 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: film several scenes in actual zero G. I heard the 645 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: stars say that they spent a lot of time on 646 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: the ends of the booms being moved around to simulate 647 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: visual zero G drift in close ups. They just swayed 648 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: back and forth. So yeah, I kind of forgot about it. 649 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,280 Speaker 1: Paul of thirteens so historically based Mission to Mars maintain 650 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: zero G as well. They even fluff out the female 651 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: stars hairs that would happen in zero G, and I 652 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: legit only forgot about that one. And then he goes 653 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: on to say, I'm guessing studios avoid zero G because 654 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: it has to be very expensive and complicated to film 655 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: it convincingly. Assuming artificial gravity has got to solve a 656 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: lot of logistical problems. So so yeah, there's a there 657 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: a few there that I've forgotten about. Yeah, that's just 658 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: made me realize how surreal it must be to be 659 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: an actor. Sometimes like camer to deliver my lines. If 660 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm as sway back and forth, just very slightly in 661 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: front of a green screen talking to a puppet that's 662 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: not a puppet that will be added sat with c 663 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: g I later, but right now is just a stick 664 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: with the word alien written N. Yeah, that I have 665 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: to in my mind imagine this monster with vagina dentata 666 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: coming at me. You know. I actually rewatched part of 667 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: two thousand and one is Space outosey Um last week, 668 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: and it's kind of heartbreaking because on one level, this 669 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: is not this is a vision of the twenty century, 670 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: but it's not the twenty century that actually happened, and 671 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 1: it's it's beautiful and stunning and uh, and then the 672 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 1: other side is we don't actually make movies like this 673 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: century either, So I was kind of torn as too 674 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: as to which was sadder. Like the scenes with the 675 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: monkeys and two thousand and one, those are the best 676 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: best scenes I've seen in cinema that features monkeys, like 677 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,879 Speaker 1: and I'm counting real monkeys, Like it's better than than 678 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: than any film with Clint Eastwood or you know, at anything, 679 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 1: And it featured actual acting chumps, better than that, better 680 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: than anything I've seen with c G I. Monkeys in 681 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: the best monkey costumes ever employed in a motion picture. Like, 682 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: those scenes are just fabulous. They're perfect and and just 683 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: and just the visual the nash of that film is 684 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: just just wondrous. It is it is. I'm sorry, it 685 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: is it is. You just brought up the Clint Eastwood 686 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: and I'm imagining him in a truck going down in 687 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: the highway with his friend. It should deduce is one 688 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: of those suits. I mean, it's just I could go 689 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 1: on and actually there was some really good Facebook discussion 690 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: on this topic. Yeah, yeah, I brought it up on 691 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: Facebook yesterday. Anyway, if you haven't seen two thousand and one, 692 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: do yourself a favor because it's great. Anyway, at this 693 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: that point, we should probably move on and close out 694 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: this podcast, I know, and I just want to say 695 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: no mistake, no mistake. Yeah, um, but we do have 696 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: to keep talking because yeah, I know. We also have 697 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: to point out that, hey, you can get in touch 698 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: with us. You can join you on Facebook conversations with 699 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: this about um, how awesome two thousand and one is, 700 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: or what kind of yoga you prefer. Um, you can 701 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: find us on Facebook we are stuff to blow your mind. 702 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter where we are blow 703 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: the mind. And and definitely we would love to hear 704 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: from any of you guys that are yoga practitioners. Uh, 705 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: let us know what effect has had on your life. Um, 706 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: if you are not a yoga practitioner and you're trying 707 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: it out or or your your new Twitter you're interested 708 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: in giving it a go, we'd love to hear from 709 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: you about that topic as well. Yeah, and also would 710 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: love to know if anybody's ever had any like huge breakthroughs, 711 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: revelations or even like some you know, sort of surreal 712 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 1: thoughts and chevas knowing at the end when they're resting, 713 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: because it's a great fertile time for for the mind. 714 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: So I have chevasna visions um fairly regularly. I forget 715 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 1: there's there's actually a term for it for those visions, 716 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,320 Speaker 1: but I can't remember what they are. Yes, very cool stuff, 717 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: so it kind of reminds me of lucid dreaming in 718 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: a way. Um. You can also send us your thoughts 719 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: via email and you can do that and blow the 720 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: mind at Discovery dot com. For more on this and 721 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: thousands of other topics, visit how stuff Works dot com. 722 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: M