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Speaker 1: baxstimetax dostop over time. Hi there, Welcome to Orchard Park,

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Speaker 1: New York on a snowy Tuesday afternoon. Newer Afield Where

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Speaker 1: Pro Sports Training Center, John Rafey Steve Taks are ready

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Speaker 1: to go three hours One Bill's Live from One Bill's

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Speaker 1: Drive on a snowy day. It's weird, Steve. I was

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Speaker 1: to doing. We're excited about it. A Tuesday, which means

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Speaker 1: An old buddy of Steves, an old Buffalo, Bill Don Beebe,

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Speaker 1: with the way things are going, it might happen eight

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Speaker 1: times or ten times. You make a big play, a

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Speaker 1: big completion on that man, that's the game, that's the absolute,

429
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Speaker 1: and that's a game man, you win period. You put

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Speaker 1: three or four of those together, games over, you win

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Speaker 1: your double digit lead, and that's and that's what they're

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Speaker 1: not doing right now. Josh pulls it down. He's trying

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Speaker 1: to get the first down, and I get that. I'm

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Speaker 1: all about it. But there's a big play out there

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Speaker 1: that can be had if you just keep your eyes down,

436
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Speaker 1: buy yourself some time, and then maybe, hey, maybe you

437
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Speaker 1: do end up throwing it away instead of running for

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Speaker 1: the first down, but on another play you end up

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Speaker 1: getting a touchdown instead of a first down. Good point.

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Speaker 1: What would you like to see? What more would you

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Speaker 1: like to see from Josh Allen and the Buffalo offense?

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Speaker 1: Give us a call eight three fifty and toll free

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Speaker 1: one eight fifty two five fifty call on the line

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Speaker 1: from David and Buffalo. Hello, Dave, go ahead, you're on

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Speaker 1: the air with this. Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Sum I wanted to talk about just two two questions

447
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Speaker 1: real quick, because the one was as far as his accuracy,

448
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 1: all right, Allen to me, there was a couple of times,

449
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Speaker 1: you know, called by the announcers, you know, his question

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Speaker 1: of accuracy and whatnot. There was one play specifically, I

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Speaker 1: forget what the receiver was, and it was a screenplay,

452
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Speaker 1: and Josh looked at him and I saw the corner

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Speaker 1: bearing down on the receiver and Josh strew it down

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Speaker 1: at his feet, nice and hard. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: that was an accuracy issue. I think that was To me,

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Speaker 1: it looked like a smart play from Josh. I know

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Speaker 1: exactly which you was talking about, mackenzie. And it was

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Speaker 1: down in the tunnel end of the field and he

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Speaker 1: turned out he just got the snap spun out and

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Speaker 1: tried to throw it and he threw it right in

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Speaker 1: the dirt. I don't think and I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: It could have been a smart throwaway. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I buy it, if I buy that or not.

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Speaker 1: Either way, it's a smart play one way. But you're right,

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Speaker 1: he's got to make those throws um and I see that.

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Speaker 1: I see what the announcer saw. Sometimes. You know, he

467
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Speaker 1: makes the seventy five yard bomb, he drops it down

468
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Speaker 1: into a bucket from forty yards away, but he doesn't

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Speaker 1: make this six yard throw to Isaiah McKenzie on the outside.

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Speaker 1: I get that. That's a little problem for me, but

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if I'm willing to go

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Speaker 1: as far as you are, David, but I do get

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Speaker 1: your point. Go ahead, you have something else. Yeah, see

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Speaker 1: one one more thing. I was the one that's uh

475
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Speaker 1: kind of called j Fox malder last week by referencing, uh, right, right, right,

476
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Speaker 1: you've been sounding normal lately, hat off, right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: I did have my tinfoil hat on last week because

478
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Speaker 1: there's an enormous conspiracy about the Monday night game in

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Speaker 1: LA with the Kansas City Chiefs. And it was a

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Speaker 1: week ago, and I was like, Gillis, listen, listen. They

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Speaker 1: they tinkered with the officiating. They didn't they called everything

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Speaker 1: in the secondary very early. There was a hands off

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Speaker 1: policy in the secondary that turned into a fifty four

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Speaker 1: fifty one shootout, iconic game. And and we were weighing

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Speaker 1: the possibilities that the league had tinkered with the way

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Speaker 1: that game turned out to see how it would play.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, and you you this is where I

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Speaker 1: think we're don't go off the rails. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: you did. I didn't believe me. Thanks for bringing that up, David.

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Speaker 1: But David checked me on this. He was talking about

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Speaker 1: that's um the reason why they moved out of Mexico

492
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Speaker 1: or something or right, that's where you kind of got

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Speaker 1: a little bit lost me. Yeah, it was all in

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Speaker 1: the equation. Then they moved the game out of Mexico,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think I was. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that had any effect. I don't know how I made

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Speaker 1: that connection. There was some there was some smoking gun

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Speaker 1: there about right. That was it, David, Right, Yeah, it

499
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Speaker 1: was the rest. It was the rest that you were

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Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, why did they change the rest? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was unprecedented, David. Thanks for keeping Stephen check. I

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Speaker 1: get that, Thank you very much. I did, yes, And

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of cooled off on that a little bit,

504
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Speaker 1: but I do. Yeah. Listen, it looked it looked funky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was a great game. It was. It

506
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Speaker 1: was an iconic game. Uh. And it was, you know,

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Speaker 1: the third highest scoring game in NFL history, and and

508
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Speaker 1: uh there was a reason to think that that they

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Speaker 1: wanted it that way. Really, let's go to a Tom

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo. Tom, Welcome to the show. You're on the

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Speaker 1: air afternoon. Guys. Hey, Hey, what I think we need

512
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Speaker 1: to see out of Josh Allen is he's got to

513
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Speaker 1: work down those touch passes the bubble screens. Uh. That'll

514
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Speaker 1: increase his yardage, it'll increase his accurate his uh percentage.

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Speaker 1: Good point I agree to, and I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: Tom and I see if and Tom, hold on, I

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Speaker 1: want you to answer this. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: things the reasons every and I think a lot of

519
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Speaker 1: people think the same thing. And I've brought it up.

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Speaker 1: We've just been talking about how you want to see him,

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Speaker 1: because those seem to be the plays that are the

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Speaker 1: gimmis that were that the bills are missing right now.

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Speaker 1: The little touch passes, the little bubble screens, those are

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Speaker 1: the ones that would make things a little easier on

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Speaker 1: everybody else. And those are the ones he seems really

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Speaker 1: the only ones. He seems to kind of struggle with.

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Speaker 1: That kind of grates against everybody because the simple ones

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Speaker 1: should be simple. Right. Yeah, it's the same kind of

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Speaker 1: problem Tyrod Taylor ad because he could He's got a

530
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Speaker 1: cannon of an arm. He can throw the long ball fine,

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Speaker 1: but he's got to learn to pull it down and

532
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Speaker 1: put not throw it so hard on those touch passes.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're having so much trouble. Tommy make a

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00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: good point. I was thinking about it in these terms.

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Speaker 1: Two seems, Tom. What we saw Sunday against Jacksonville obviously

536
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Speaker 1: an offense, there's still still very much a work in progress, right,

537
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Speaker 1: we can all agree on that, and that's kind of

538
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Speaker 1: what we're discussing today. And one of the things they

539
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Speaker 1: need to work on is exactly what Tom is saying

540
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Speaker 1: is a complete short passing game, short to intermediate passing game.

541
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Speaker 1: We know that Alan can chuck it downfield with the

542
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Speaker 1: likes of anyone in the league, but they're not a

543
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Speaker 1: complete package yet offensively, either in the running game obviously,

544
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Speaker 1: or in the passing game. Do you agree that they

545
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Speaker 1: need that short the intermediate game, which, Yeah, it will

546
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Speaker 1: require some refinement from Josh Allen. I think Tom makes

547
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Speaker 1: a very good point there. Yeah, he's got to be

548
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Speaker 1: able to take the snap, turn his shoulders, and let

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Speaker 1: it fly real quick and accurately. And I think when

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Speaker 1: it is a short game, a short passing game, and

551
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Speaker 1: we're saying, these are easy completions, and some of these

552
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Speaker 1: bubble screens, like the one that the caller David just

553
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Speaker 1: brought up a few minutes ago, where he just grabs

554
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Speaker 1: the ball, spins and throws it hard and gets it.

555
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: It's designed to get out there as quickly as possible.

556
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Speaker 1: I mean a lot of quarterbacks throw it and some

557
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: of them don't even grab the laces of the ball.

558
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Speaker 1: They just grab it and sling it out there as

559
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Speaker 1: quickly as they can. And Josh did that last week

560
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Speaker 1: and threw it at the feet of Isaiah mckinsham. Is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it looked bad. You got to make those plays,

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Speaker 1: And those are the ones that are disturbing for people

563
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Speaker 1: because whatever possibility those plays have is blown up before

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Speaker 1: the guy even gets the ball. And those seem like

565
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: such easy throws to make. That it's I think that's frustrating.

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Speaker 1: I think that's and the last color Thomason, that's the

567
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: frustrating thing that we saw last year with Tyrod. Sometimes

568
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: it was so frustrating to watch because the easy ones

569
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Speaker 1: never got completed, or not enough of them anyway. And

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Speaker 1: and that's one of the things. You know, I still

571
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Speaker 1: got people on my timeline saying, hey, you're having the

572
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Speaker 1: same conversations we did about Tyrod last year. There's a

573
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Speaker 1: lot going into that. Tyrod was a six or seven

574
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Speaker 1: year vet that was his top end, right exactly, this

575
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: is not the top end for Josh. And and plus Tyrod,

576
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Speaker 1: if he was here, it's twenty million bucks off the cap, right,

577
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Speaker 1: And I mean that's not you may or man. I

578
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Speaker 1: agree with this, Steve, But to me, Josh Allen has

579
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Speaker 1: potential to be a ten times better passer than Tyrod

580
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Speaker 1: Taylor ever had. And I'm not just saying because of

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Speaker 1: arm strength, he's got to get better Josh's. Yes, we're

582
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Speaker 1: saying some of the similar things, but they're not really

583
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Speaker 1: anything alike. Josh Allen has potential to be ten times

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Speaker 1: the passer that Tyrod Taylor was. The thought I think

585
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Speaker 1: in the for a lot of people is that Tyrod

586
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Speaker 1: reached his potential. He was who was going to be.

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Speaker 1: He was a six year vet. He started for three

588
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: years and that was his sea. He wasn't getting better.

589
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: He'd changed offensive coordinators, they'd tried different philosophies, and every

590
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: time with the coordinator would come in, it would always

591
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: evolve back to that same offense that was the only

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Speaker 1: one Tyrod could seemingly run, and it wasn't good enough.

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00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: It ended up in being less than two hundred yards

594
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: passing or less than one hundred yards passing, never three

595
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: hundred yards passing. And although the positives were Tyrod could

596
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: run it like Josh could, and he didn't turn it over.

597
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 1: He just didn't seem good enough, but that was the

598
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Speaker 1: top end. And plus they were on the hook for

599
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars if he was going to be here,

600
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and they wanted to get better, and they didn't want

601
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: to stay like that. They wanted to get better, and

602
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: that's they made that move. Hey, coming up a little

603
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: bit later on this hour, we expect to get Bill's

604
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie in studio with us. A couple

605
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: of news item, Steven, I want to get to before

606
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Speaker 1: we break at the bottom of the hour. Here, just

607
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: get a quick comment for you. Leonard Fournette suspended one

608
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: game for violating the unsports mili conduct and unnecessary roughness

609
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: rules the fight coming across the field. The ruling came

610
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: down late yesterday. One game sounds about right, sounds about fair. Right,

611
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: he will I think he's gonna appeal. But to me,

612
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: that sounds about right, don't you think? Yeah, you can't. Yeah,

613
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: that's one game is enough, It's about absolutely yeah, I

614
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: think so. I mean, you know, I gotta listen. It

615
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: was a scuffle and these guys are grown men there,

616
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, I get it, And it was it

617
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: was I don't know what he was in and and

618
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: I how do you get a guy who was it

619
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: was shown on film he was on a knee, leaning

620
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: on his helmet because he was taking arrest on that play.

621
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: He ends up off the bench across the field at

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Speaker 1: the far end. How does he how does he get

623
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: over there? What is he thinking about getting over there?

624
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: He's throwing him and he throws punches almost immediately. I mean,

625
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: what is going on? I mean, and I'll tell you what. Listen.

626
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: If I'm if I'm an owner, if I'm shot Kana

627
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: the Jackfield Jaguars, I'm looking, I'm sticking my head in

628
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: the door of that office, sing, Hey, what do you

629
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: do with your guy? How do you guys? Who's in

630
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: charge of that? Yeah? Well they had a couple Your

631
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: best player got tossed. What are you doing? They had

632
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: a couple of other issues they had to sort out yesterday. Yeah,

633
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: here's the other news item. And this it happened just

634
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Speaker 1: within the last couple of hours. Google to Sports and

635
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636
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Speaker 1: leading sports agency Entertainment and Sports Agency will conduct a study,

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Speaker 1: a privately funded study to help identify the best options

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Speaker 1: for ownership, fans and community. They'll get direct feedback from

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00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: Bills and Savers fans over the next several months. They'll

642
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Speaker 1: guide PSC through a stadium feasibility study to identify the

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00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: needed improvements in all aspects of the fan and team

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Speaker 1: experience at either a new football stadium or a renovated

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Speaker 1: new era field. The study will equally focus on modernizing

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Speaker 1: Keybank Center, which is twenty three years old. As far

647
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Speaker 1: as the stadium where we are right now. There is

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Speaker 1: no decision made on whether there will be a new

649
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Speaker 1: stadium or not. No final decisions made at this point.

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Speaker 1: This is only the beginning. PSC says, but a good step,

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Speaker 1: a good first step, a logical step. Yeah, what do

652
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Speaker 1: we need? How are we doing it? I mean, Keybank

653
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Speaker 1: Center's twenty three years old and this one new era

654
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Speaker 1: of field is forty five years old. And that's that's

655
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Speaker 1: long in the tooth for a lot of stadiums. And

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Speaker 1: it's been through a number of renovations and a number

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Speaker 1: of it's been through gosh, they say, two major renovations. Okay,

658
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Speaker 1: but it's also been through like four upgrades, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean these last ones were big,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know a lot of people. You got

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Speaker 1: to be our age really to remember the thing back

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00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: as a rich stadium when none of the buildings are

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Speaker 1: that one building at the far end and there's people

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Speaker 1: in msg away from the scoreboard, there's that one building

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Speaker 1: off the end of the administration building, the administrations. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then that was it. I mean, even the even

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Speaker 1: the suites at the far end under the scoreboard weren't there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was nothing there, and there was probably

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Speaker 1: what ten thousand more seats nine two fifty eighty thousand,

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Speaker 1: two fifty. I remember it was, and and it would

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00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: believe me, it would rock in the old days. It

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Speaker 1: rocks now. It rocks now. Um yeah. But it's been

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Speaker 1: through upgraded and they've done a they've done a great

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Speaker 1: job of keeping it up. I mean, I remember back

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Speaker 1: as far as Ralph Wilson, ten years before the lease

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00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: ran out, they said, hey, listen, we better get on

677
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Speaker 1: it because when it comes to the you know, it

678
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: comes to renewing the lease in nineteen ninety nine, it

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00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: needs to be way far down the road than you know,

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Speaker 1: dropping a seven hundred million dollar bill on top of it.

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Speaker 1: So they did it a little at a time over

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00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: the course of four or five six years, two or

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Speaker 1: three things at a time, and they kept it up

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00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: and the place is great now. I mean, I've heard

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Speaker 1: from a lot of people that we're here for the

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Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas Jersey retirement. How great did that stadium look

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00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: at night? At halftime it lights out. Everybody's phone on

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00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: with the with the heated seats up there to lit up.

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Speaker 1: That was great. Yeah, it really looked great. So they

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Speaker 1: do want to say so. Pagoulas Sports and Entertainment has

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Speaker 1: hired see AA Icon to do the study and stay tuned.

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00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: I think imminent, We don't think, and no final decisions

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Speaker 1: made just yet. Right, Steve and I have a lot

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00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: of ground of cover today. We're gonna get back into

695
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: it about the Buffalo offense. What are you looking for

696
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: in the final five games this year? And you have

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00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: some opinions on that. We'll take those on the phone

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00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: and on Twitter when we come back. And also Asai

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00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: McKenzie going to join us as well. Hey, we have

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Speaker 1: a winner this week in the Blue Rock Solar Player

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Speaker 1: of the Week and it is Josh Allen with his

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00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: ninety nine yards rushing and shot. Yeah, Josh Allen has

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00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: a long touchdown pass to Robert Foster. He is the

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Speaker 1: Blue Rock Solar Player of the Week. Tap into Solar

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Speaker 1: Energy without a single panel on your roof. Joined the

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Speaker 1: Western New York Community Solar Farm from Blue Rock Solar.

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Speaker 1: A proud supporter of the Buffalo Bill. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back, One Goes Live

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Speaker 1: from One Goes Drive. Snowy Orchard Partner York, John Murphy,

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00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, not getting big accumulations of snow, but we're

712
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 1: are getting pretty steady snow since early this morning. Steve,

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Speaker 1: Big hockey game tonight the Sharks. You're you actually have tickets,

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Speaker 1: so you're eating tonight's tickets for hockey. Well, not snow.

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Speaker 1: I mean my partner's taking him O my son. He's

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Speaker 1: taking his partner. He's taken he's my partner with the tickets.

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00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: He and I are in him together. So he's taking

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Speaker 1: his wife and uh, I've got other plans. Do you

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Speaker 1: care to share those plans? I'm going to Hamilton's Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: See yesterday, I couldn't remember the event that I had

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Speaker 1: in Ontario where no Hamilton at Shaise. We're going to

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00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: that thing tonight and planning. Yeah, we're planning on going

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Speaker 1: to you know, early dinner, going on the show, big

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Speaker 1: date night for the Taskers, and I'll have my ear

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Speaker 1: piece in listen. No, don't do that. Don't. You can't

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Speaker 1: do that. You can't do that's rude. You cannot do that.

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Speaker 1: Don't Nobody will know. You can't do it. You can't

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Speaker 1: do it. I would have it's it's musical. You want

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00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: to hear the music, you want to hear the songs.

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Speaker 1: Do not do that. I'm telling you that's a bad vote.

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Speaker 1: I won't come the figure. Come on, man, it'll be

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Speaker 1: tweeted up. But that's what I'm doing. We're going to Hamilton,

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Speaker 1: going to an early dinner and then and then that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's a good night. Good for you. Better be tickets

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00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 1: aren't free, and I've gotten buying four tickets for two

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Speaker 1: tickets to something. We're just one event, all right. Hey,

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00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about the bills today in the show. John

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Speaker 1: Murphy and Steve Tasker are here until three o'clock today

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00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: with Peter King coming by at one and coming by

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00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: at two o'clock to Steve's former teammate Don Beebe, brand

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00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: new head coach at Aura is at College University. I

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00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll look that up. It's more college college

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00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: college talking to us. I'm are listening. Oh, there we go.

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00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: I hear him now. So that's coming up at two

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00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: and in a minute or two. Isaia McKenzie, Bill's brand

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00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: new wide receiver, want to hear from you. What do

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00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: you think the Bills need to do in these remaining

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00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: five games on offense? What are you looking for from

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Speaker 1: the offense? Give us a call? Eighth three five fifty

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Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Bob and West Seneca on the line with us. Hello, Bob, Hey,

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00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, John, Good afternoon, Steve. How you doing. We're

753
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: doing very good. What's up? Great? Hey? Real quick? On

754
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: the receiving thing, I want to see every I want

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00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: to see the team go back to the way it

756
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: used to be when the AFL and the NFL merged,

757
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: like the Denver Broncos. I want to see the three amigos.

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00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: I want to see more receivers out there with speed

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00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 1: like they're shifting too right now. I think Jay Jones

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00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: is a great receiver, especially watching him blocking head game.

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00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: And also just a quick point on the time. I

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00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: want to see Josh on the end of that game.

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand it because he was hiking snapping that ball.

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00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: I should say, what about three minutes left in the game?

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00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: Twelve seconds, last, ten seconds left? And what's really got

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00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: me was the coach when it got to under three minutes,

767
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 1: maybe you can help me call two timeouts. And I

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00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: just didn't understand that. And my last comment, you'd understand

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00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: the timeouts, No, not the coach calling him under three minutes.

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00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: I just didn't know why he was doing that. Well,

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00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: is he snapping too early? Is that your issue calling?

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00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: I just thought he should have let the time keep going. Okay,

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00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: that's what I thought, because you know it was whining

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00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: that came down, eat that clock up and in closing

775
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: after that fight, the melee, I'm gonna tell you right now,

776
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: the bills after that and what they did. Nobody circles

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00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: the wagons. Yeah, hey, guys, have a nice state. Thanks,

778
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: but you're right, we noticed it. Talked about it yesterday

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00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: after that melee. Everything turned everything. It was different, and

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00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: it was in favor of the Bills. They got the

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00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: stop on the first and goal on the half yard line.

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00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: It ended up being fourth and goal from the I

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00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: think twenty two yard line, and it pulled into it

784
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: turned into a missed forty yard It was a twenty

785
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: four yard line turned into a missed forty two yard

786
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: field goal, and the lid came off and the crowd

787
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: was into it. The team was absolutely energized by getting

788
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 1: out of that drive giving up no points. They turned

789
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: around after the missfield goal and it ended and that

790
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: was right at the end of the third quarter. That

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00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: drive started in that end, and then before they finished it,

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00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: they turned around and started the fourth quarter. They went

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00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: into the same end again and Josh Allen went in

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00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: on the fourteen yard run and and it was over.

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00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: That was it, and it was yeah, that changed everything.

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00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: And I'm talking and you said the collared Bob just said,

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00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: Murph about the three. He wants more speed at wide receiver. Listen,

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00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: they're working on it. That's what they've been doing the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. They're on that plan. Just like

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Speaker 1: the caller Bob said, they want like that. He said

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00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: the three amigos. I don't people remember that. I think

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00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: it was the Redskins that had the three amigos, right, Yeah,

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00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: it was like Art Monk, Ricky Sanders and Clark, Ricky

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00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: and Clark. Yeah, they had. That's what they're trying to get.

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00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: They're trying to get fast guys out there. That's the

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00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: way the league is going. Three wide outs on the

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00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: field all the time with one back, one tight end,

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00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: or maybe four wides with one back, and and they go,

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00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: they spread it out and go. That's what the league's

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00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: turn into. And I think the Bills are working to

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Speaker 1: get there. So I'm with You's take another call here

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Speaker 1: from Nick in Omaha, Nebraska. Hello Nick, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, everybody's talking about Josh taking off too quick

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00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: with the ball. I'd like to see his game, you know.

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00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: Here just talking about Steve Young or Randall Cunninghammer quarterbacks

816
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 1: who ran a lot back thirty years ago, but even today,

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00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: like Andrew luck is like sneaky good at it. He'll

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00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: run for four hundred yards a season and continues drives.

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00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's another one. Obviously, he needs to know when

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00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: too and when not to, but I'd hate to see

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00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: where they take it away from him. Yeah. I agree,

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Speaker 1: he's a superior athlete. Maybe you know, he can be

823
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: right up there with Cam Newton and those guys in

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00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: terms of being able to run the football. You're right,

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00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to see him take that completely out

826
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Speaker 1: of his game. Girl, I don't either, And I don't

827
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Speaker 1: think And I said this earlier in the show, Nick,

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Speaker 1: and he might not have heard it, but I thought

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Speaker 1: he ran appropriately last week for the most part, in

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00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: large part, almost all the time, he ran fine. I

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Speaker 1: think one thing I'd like to see him do is

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00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: a little bit more like Russell Wilson rather than like

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00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Cam Newton when he pulls it down, run to throw

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Speaker 1: it rather than scramble to get first sounds and not

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00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: bowling people over. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you on that.

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00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: He's listening. Yeah, it's great for a momentum and all

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00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: that night, like it was great on the touchdown run.

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00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I mean, when a quarterback carries it,

839
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: they're a bigger target and a more enticing target for

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00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: violence than just a regular running back, and sooner or

841
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: later it catches up to you. Man it sooner or later.

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 1: It always catches up to you, and Josh is no different.

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00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: I think i'd like to see is let them air

844
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: it out thirty five times. Um, the season's going nowhere, obviously,

845
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: let's just throw it around and see see what he

846
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: can do, rather than in the game plan set it

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 1: up all the other just who cares? Well, I'll tell

848
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: you what, Nick, You're right, I get you there. But

849
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: here's what I think. I think they they don't have

850
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: a problem doing that, but I think let's wait for

851
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: a game when it makes sense to do that. You know, um,

852
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: if they can't, I think they're trying to win the game.

853
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: So I think they do want to play, you know,

854
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: balanced have a balance attack offensively where they can run

855
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: and pass. And they want to run when they want

856
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: to run it, and when they pass it, they pass

857
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: it when they want to pass it. I think there'll

858
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 1: be enough times where they're gonna be down double digits

859
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and he's gonna start airing it

860
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: out and it'll end up he'll throw it forty times,

861
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: forty five times. I mean, you got to kind of

862
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: wait for that to happen. But if there's a team

863
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: that is susceptible to it. I'm all for it as well,

864
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: but listen, I do it takes to win the game,

865
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: and if it does mean throwing it fifty times, they're

866
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: gonna be games like that. I know they only have

867
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: five games left. Maybe there isn't a team out there.

868
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: Maybe Detroit falls into that category. I don't haven't seen

869
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: them enough. Maybe that'll be the game they do it,

870
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: But I think he's gonna be patient with that. I

871
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with it either. Let him throw

872
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 1: it fifty times in a game, if that's what it

873
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: takes to win. I was talking to Brownie yesterday morning,

874
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: and I want to bring this up with you after

875
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: the break which is coming up here, about observation he

876
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 1: made about the way the Jaguars tried to handle Josh

877
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: Allen's running and what dolphins the Dolphins might do. We'll

878
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: talk about that when we come back. More from you

879
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: as well, John Murphy, Steve Tasker one goes live from

880
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: One Bills Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. He give

881
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: you the New York Lotto inside the numbers. Did you

882
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: know that Bill's linebacker Matt Milano was tied for the

883
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: league lead and takeaways now he has three interceptions, two

884
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: in the last couple of games. He has three forced

885
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: fumbles in eleven games played so far this season. That's

886
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: New York State Lottery inside the numbers, take a break

887
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: from the expected play scratch off games from the New

888
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: York Lotto. Is Matt Milano kind of evolving into fan favorite?

889
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't you think? I do? Think he came

890
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. He's like, what fifth round pick? And

891
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: he was like, Okay, who's this guy? And he all

892
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden through cramp and he started getting some reps,

893
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he has the tipped interception

894
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: for the t D in the Raider game. And now,

895
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's like, mister turnover. Yeah, well

896
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: that's that's how you make your mark, right, I mean,

897
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: you know he's in I think of him sometimes it's

898
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: sort of a new age linebacker, kind of the new prototype, right,

899
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: more athletic than big, fast, decent hands him. He played

900
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: safety at Boston College. I think, uh, he's a good obviously,

901
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: a good addition to the Buffalo lineup and a guy

902
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: that presents like the kind of linebacker teams are gonna need.

903
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: Believe that He looks a lot like the linebackers that

904
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: that defense in Jacksonville have with Miles jack and Smith,

905
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: Telvin Smith. They're they're heavy safeties and they can really scoot,

906
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: they can run and Milano. I think the thing that

907
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 1: he brings to it is just the fact that he's

908
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: he's instinctual. I mean, the guy's always around the football, right,

909
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we always see. I mean, that's

910
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: why he comes up with turnovers. The ball pops out,

911
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: he seems to be right there. The balls tipped in

912
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: the air, he seems to catch it. Uh, and it's uh,

913
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: it's become his hallmark, had the turnovers, and I think it's, uh,

914
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: it's interesting to see a guy like that who you know,

915
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: turn you know, was an afterthought in the draft, not

916
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: really an afterthought, but a guy who's, you know, a

917
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: fifth round pick and al we'll see how he can

918
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: do whatever, and all of a sudden, you know, Bills

919
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: fans feel like he's almost indispensable. Yeah, that's kind of

920
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: one of the stories. It's fun to see in the NFL. Well,

921
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: he's been a guy who has led the you know,

922
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: the Bill's defense has been pretty solid all season long,

923
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: but It's only been the last couple of games where

924
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: they really had success in takeaways. Right, they had two

925
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: against the Jags, two against the Jets. I was doing

926
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: some research this morning. Prior to that, this season, the

927
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: Bills were minus nine in the turnover takeaway ratio. Now

928
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: they're minus five. I believe I had it down here somewhere.

929
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: That's right. But they've they've improved. They're getting takeaways and

930
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: not turned it it over. And that's the thing that's

931
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: the last remaining piece that they needed to complete in

932
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: their defensive picture. They've been a solid defensive the year.

933
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: They're getting takeaways. Two, that's you. That's you. I call

934
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: you though you're not see where your point is. But

935
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: you said you started your whole sentence all by saying this.

936
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: The Bill's defense has been pretty solid all year. They

937
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: were number were one in the league. Now they're number two. Well, okay,

938
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: and they were are they a top tending back? Let's

939
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: go back two is in top ten. This is a

940
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: man who wouldn't back down that prediction with any sort

941
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: of wager or any sort of There were no stakes

942
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: involved in this prediction. If you really believe that, you

943
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: would have thrown a twenty dollar bill on the desk.

944
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: If I'd have thrown twenty bucks on it, I'd feel

945
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: too much stressed to glow. Oh you wouldn't. I will

946
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: feel good about it. I would not know God would

947
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: be worried about losing my twenty Still, let's go to

948
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: Pete and Hamburg. Hello, Pete, welcome to the show. I

949
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: guess m I's calling to see what you think about

950
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: these penalties that call for blocking in the back and

951
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: kickoffs and punts. It's quite frequent, and I think it's

952
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: being caused by there being coached to turn the backs

953
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: when they're engaged running down the field. I think it's

954
00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:03,479
Speaker 1: it's more of a created penalty. What do you think? Yeah, well, Pete,

955
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: it's a good observation and it's I don't know if

956
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: it's coached. Um. I never had to be coached to

957
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,359
Speaker 1: do that, but I knew this. If I could get

958
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: a step on a guy, what you do is you

959
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: step in front of him. If you're if you're covering

960
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: a kick going down the field and you're you feel

961
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy to decipher who's supposed to be blocking you.

962
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: You can either you see him, you feel it, and

963
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: he's trying to get at you. He's the guy that's

964
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: assigned to you to block you. And if you can

965
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: get a step on him and you step in front

966
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: of him and you're running, you're running down the field

967
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: side by side, and if you're fast enough or or

968
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: shift enough right when you get going, just step in

969
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: front of the guy. And if you step in front

970
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: of him, that's that's a technique that is coached you getting.

971
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Don't run down the field with your guy step in

972
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: front of him. If he's trying to block you, then

973
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: all he can do is block you in the back.

974
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: The key thing for a return team is you got

975
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: to stay on top of that guy. You can't get

976
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: into a trail position. You can't let him get away

977
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: from you. You have to retreat before he's ready to

978
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: take off running. And if you retreat, that means you

979
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: stay on the returner's side of the guy who's covering

980
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: it and your guy to block. But most guys, they

981
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: get a little auntsie and they try and engage the guy,

982
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: and of course he swipes them off, swims away from

983
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: him and gets on top of him. And yeah, you're right.

984
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: Once you get down, you start running down the field

985
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: and you know the guy's going to try and block you.

986
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: You take a position so that he has to block

987
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: you in the back, and some guys are really good

988
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: at it. Well that makes sense for coming from an

989
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: whole pro special teams guy. Well, well it should make

990
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: sense coming from anybody. But yeah, I appreciate that they

991
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: think about it. If I had said that, he would

992
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: have said, yeah, whatever. Yeah, sure, if you have said it,

993
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: you are a perennial Hall of Fame candidate. We're observational

994
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: on him. Go ahead, Pete, thanks for cutting cutting him off, Pete,

995
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: go ahead, beat. I can't he gets off off the

996
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: lane so good. I think he was a diamond or rough.

997
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: We got off to taxi squid. Who is this Foster? Yeah, yeah,

998
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: he's he is a really really good guy that he's

999
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: really good off off the lane, getting getting a speed

1000
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: off the lane. I think he'll be a good future

1001
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: receiver for us. Yeah, it seems like he's he's kind

1002
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: of grown out of it. We had him on I

1003
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this people, we had Robert

1004
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Foster on the show yesterday and it was evident when

1005
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: they cut him brought him back, and you know when

1006
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,800
Speaker 1: they started bouncing him around the roster, put him on

1007
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: the practice squad, cutting him out, ride, bringing him back.

1008
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: That really spoke to him about his need to take

1009
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: ownership of how good he was gonna be. And that's

1010
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: a that's a professional attitude. You have to take responsibility

1011
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: for how good or how well you do your job.

1012
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: Sometimes that's hard in football because you're getting coached and

1013
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: you feel like the coach should give you everything you

1014
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: need to do to be good. It's not the way

1015
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: it works in pro football. Um, you do it yourself.

1016
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: You make yourself better, you study your own film, and

1017
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: then you get pointers from him, and you bounce things

1018
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: off your coach and other players. So I think you're right.

1019
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: If Robert Foster continues to have the attitude that listen,

1020
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: it's up to me to get as good as I

1021
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: can get. Yeah, Robert Foster could be a fixture in

1022
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo for a long time. All right, Great care. Isaia

1023
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: McKenzie scheduled to join us after the top of the hour,

1024
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: plus Peter King next hour as well. We got a

1025
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: long way to go and a short time to get there.

1026
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: Is that a song come from bad? Oh? There you go? Yeah?

1027
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: John Murphy's and Steve Tasker One Bills line from One

1028
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Balo Bills Radio

1029
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: Network Stories update. The update from One Bill's Drive. The

1030
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills players with the day office. They get set

1031
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: for their next game. Five games left. They've got the

1032
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: Dolphins in Miami coming up on Sunday at one pm.

1033
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: The Bills have won their last two in a row

1034
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: and now the looking to extend that streak with the

1035
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: game in Miami on Sunday. Players day off, coaching staff

1036
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: hard at work on the game plan. Practice resumes tomorrow afternoon.

1037
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 1: The team the Bills beat last Sunday, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1038
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: I've end an eventful couple of days. Last night, the

1039
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 1: NFL suspended Jaguars running back Leonard Fournette for one game

1040
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: without pay following his ejection for fighting with Bill's defensive

1041
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: in Shack Lawson in the game on Sunday. The league

1042
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: said Fournette violated it's on Sportsmnight Conduct and unnecessary roughness

1043
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: rules and as a result, well miss Sunday's game against

1044
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 1: Indianapolis in Jacksonville. Monday's announcement did not mention any discipline

1045
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: for Shack Lawson, who was also ejected. After the game,

1046
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: Jaguars coach Doug Morone said he spoke with Fournett and

1047
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: other players on Monday about the fight, which happened late

1048
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: in the third quarter. Last night, the Houston Texans won

1049
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: their eighth in a row. They beat the Tennessee Titans

1050
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: thirty four to seventeen, and before they took the field,

1051
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: the team honored owner and founder Bob McNair, who died

1052
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: on Friday. J. J. Watt says the team dedicated the

1053
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: victory over the Tennessee Titans to their late owner of

1054
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Bob McNair last night. All so from the Buffalo Bills.

1055
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: The announcement from PSC today, PSC Pregolda Sports and Entertainment

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Speaker 1: has hired c aa Icon too, helping its efforts to

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Speaker 1: determine the next steps for a stadium for the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills and potential renovations of Keybank Center. Ce aa Icon

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Speaker 1: will guide PSC through a stadium feasibility analysis. No definitive

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Speaker 1: plan has been made yet on whether the Bills will

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Speaker 1: renovate the new airfield or construct a new stadium, but

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Speaker 1: the first steps in that process are underway and hockey

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Sabers host San Jose tonight. It is Hockey

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Speaker 1: Fights Cancer Night in partnership with Roswell Park, based off

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Speaker 1: seven o'clock tonight for the Sabers in San Jose, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: on its first nine game win streak since the team

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Speaker 1: won the first ten games of the O six seven season.

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Speaker 1: As we said, basoff seven o'clock tonight at Keybank Center,

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Speaker 1: Our two is here the One Bills Live Show, John

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Speaker 1: Murphy's team tasker coming to you from One Bill's Drive

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Speaker 1: and joining us in studio right out of the workout room.

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Speaker 1: Happy to have Bills. Second year wide receiver Isaiah McKenzie

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Speaker 1: in studio with us. Isaiah, thanks for coming by as

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Speaker 1: few minute ago. It's day off. Why are you here?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing that? You should be away? You

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Speaker 1: going something fun? What's going on? It's just we're having

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Speaker 1: getting everything together. So my body's right for Sunday. You're healthy, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but you just want to get in here and get

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Speaker 1: a little working Yes. Do you go by Isaiah or

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Speaker 1: do you go buy Ike or something like that? Uh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was Isaiah. I don't really have a nickname, you know,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, nobody has a nickname for you. They

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Speaker 1: called me, like coach Terry called me Ike, But I'm like,

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Speaker 1: see THEE. But I guess, like a real name. It's like,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I get you. It's not Isaiah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, so you go buy Ike. No, no, but

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Speaker 1: he's determined to call you Ike. What you just say,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you Isaiah. You're gonna tell me about

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Speaker 1: the process of starting out spending last year with the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos and then coming here, being released and coming

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Speaker 1: here around midway through the season. Well, how much upheava

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Speaker 1: was that for you this this season? When that happened,

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Speaker 1: It was a real um from being up you know,

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Speaker 1: playing all season last year, you know, being in starting

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Speaker 1: parts or any things like that. It was its kind

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Speaker 1: of tough. Actually, I wouldn't say leaving there. It's just

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Speaker 1: like being put down. You know. I have all my

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Speaker 1: guys there that I still know, and I'm just giving

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Speaker 1: familiar with the office and things like that. It was

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Speaker 1: just like, you know, I just had to let it

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Speaker 1: go eventually, you know, when guys and the Bills have

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Speaker 1: made plenty of waiver claims, teams do all over the league.

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Speaker 1: But I always wonder if the guys who get released

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Speaker 1: by a team. When you're out there, do you think

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Speaker 1: yourself at all, I'm done, I'll never play again in

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Speaker 1: the league. Does that thought even cross your mind? Or

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Speaker 1: are you determined that you're gonna wind up somewhere. I'm

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Speaker 1: always determined to wind up somewhere. And it's my first

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Speaker 1: time it ever happened to you know, coming out of

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Speaker 1: college last year, I didn't I didn't deal with that

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Speaker 1: in college or anything like that. So now when I

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Speaker 1: dealt with it this year, like, I kind of had

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Speaker 1: an understanding of why and things like that. So I

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Speaker 1: told myself, if I have an understanding, then I have

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Speaker 1: no worries. But I know I can play football. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's an interesting roller coaster because on one hand,

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Speaker 1: and now, how how long was it between the time

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Speaker 1: that you got released by the Broncos until the Bills

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Speaker 1: pick you up. Wasn't that long, was it? Uh? No,

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Speaker 1: it was the next day actually, yeah, I mean we

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Speaker 1: played we played against the Chiefs that week, and then

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Speaker 1: they put me down on I think to Monday or Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and then the next day, yeah, they call. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like he had very many sleepless nights worrying about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and how has it been here in the transition because

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Speaker 1: Denver for people who don't know, and I grew up

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Speaker 1: in kind of that region of the country, like three

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Speaker 1: hundred days of sunshine a year. Cold, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: a different vibe now you come to Buffalo and yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's an adjustment, right, No, not really. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: it's cold. I mean cold, it's just cold. Liked Denver

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Speaker 1: to believe me. Yeah, yeah, but it's like I'm so

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Speaker 1: used to it now, I don't know how. Like I

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Speaker 1: walked around with the T shirt on here and it's

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Speaker 1: like in Denver it's the same way, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: no different. It's cold, it's cold. What about the locker room,

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Speaker 1: you know, good group of guys here, Yeah, good seems Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, guys get along with each other,

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Speaker 1: they boring well and things like that. So they brought

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Speaker 1: me in like family the first day. So it's been

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Speaker 1: a good and right away you got plugged in. I

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Speaker 1: mean they said, okay, here, here you go, here's the ball. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: in my mind, I was just expecting, you know, to

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Speaker 1: give a few plays here and there. I didn't expect

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Speaker 1: to be in that much or getting the ball at

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Speaker 1: much part return. I wanted to play part return at

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Speaker 1: least to get on the field and you'll feel my

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Speaker 1: way in seam like that. But it's like at least,

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Speaker 1: no here, you're gonna run this end around, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: carry the offense for a little bit. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's been It's gotta have fun. Gotta be fun to

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Speaker 1: think about them having some trust in you, and what

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Speaker 1: an opportunity it is. Oh yeah, it's a great opportunity.

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Speaker 1: But you know it was. It was surprising to me.

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Speaker 1: Still just get in. It helped, you know, help the

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Speaker 1: team win and do my job the best way. I can't.

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Speaker 1: This just didn't steve from the bills. Media guy under

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Speaker 1: Ija McKenzie. Nickname in high school the human Joystick. Is

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Speaker 1: that right? Is said, Yeah, oh okay, you didn't want

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Speaker 1: that to be known. You denied that. Ye I asked

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Speaker 1: you if you had a nickname, man, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want you to call it, like call me human

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Speaker 1: joystick at the public breaking The Human Joystick is in studio.

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Speaker 1: That was out of Miami High School. Well, I got

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Speaker 1: into high school and I went to America here to

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Speaker 1: high school was just like forty five minutes away from

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Speaker 1: where I grew up in Miami. But to bars me

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Speaker 1: fat and he's on high school team, and he gave

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Speaker 1: me that nickname. Want to ask you about your time

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Speaker 1: at Georgia with the with the Bulldogs and returns where

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Speaker 1: your specialty? Right career five punt return touchdowns and one

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Speaker 1: other return touchdowns. Yeah, and tell me how do you

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Speaker 1: develop that specialty? I don't know. I guess it's like

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Speaker 1: part returns, like backgard football. It's like kicking the balls.

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Speaker 1: Eleven guys in front of you trying to get you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, tackle you and you got eleven guys I

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Speaker 1: mean tim other guys trying to block for you. So

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Speaker 1: when I catched the ball, it is like go anywhere

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Speaker 1: I want. It's not like keep returning where you have

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Speaker 1: this you know a certain direction you gotta go fart return.

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Speaker 1: You can run anywhere and do whatever you want. You

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Speaker 1: hit two games with the Bills and two days of

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Speaker 1: two games with punt returns only one in this place.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard horror stories about the wind here at

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Speaker 1: newer Afield and what that might do to some punts

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Speaker 1: when they get up in the wind. I heard about it,

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Speaker 1: but wasn't it wasn't too bad on this field. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I feel good like the punter, yeah, just passing the day.

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Speaker 1: He didn't you do that special with the ball or anything.

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Speaker 1: So it came straight to me. So you're sitting next

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Speaker 1: to a guy here who made a living returning and

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Speaker 1: chasing down punts, mostly chasing. But guys like Isaiah, when

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Speaker 1: you're kids, you're like, you play tag, You're never it, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's why that's kind of like a punt return. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're never tag. You're it unless they start

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Speaker 1: the game and say, okay, Isaiah, is it at less

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Speaker 1: about three seconds and you tag a fat kid and

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Speaker 1: then you're never it again, right, Yeah, And that's what

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Speaker 1: that's what punt return is basically, right, And that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the fun part of it too. That's my favorite

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Speaker 1: part of the game. Yes, special teams and part returns.

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Speaker 1: Like I have the ball, everybody's chasing me, and I know,

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Speaker 1: like I get to make guys miss I get the

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Speaker 1: outrun guys, I got guys blocking from me. So and

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Speaker 1: if you score a touchdown, it changes at the moment

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Speaker 1: of the game, right, that's a big one. Yeah. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 1: um so you you I think when you have seven

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Speaker 1: offensive play against the Jets, maybe something like that, and

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Speaker 1: I have a ton of offensive plays, thirty three snaps

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Speaker 1: on offenses past Sunday, Yeah, going in they told you probably, hey,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna use you now right, They told you that

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Speaker 1: during the week. I've seen it, but they didn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: But during the week I seen me getting more and

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Speaker 1: more reps and I was okay, well, so we got

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Speaker 1: in the game. I didn't think it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: thirty three plays though, right. So yeah. My thought was

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Speaker 1: when there was a time of stretch or short stretch

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Speaker 1: of my career where I went from special teams and

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Speaker 1: covering you know, on all of them kick kick return,

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Speaker 1: punp punt return, and then I because of you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a bus crash or something and there's six

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Speaker 1: guys injured and I got a chance to play wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: It was the balance was really difficult then for me.

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Speaker 1: I mean I couldn't cover kicks and then play offense.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah a balance for you, I mean punt return maybe

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Speaker 1: a little different because it's only one special team. You're

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Speaker 1: not covering kickoffs you're not covering punts. Is there a

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Speaker 1: limit to how many offensive players you can get and

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Speaker 1: then still do be effective on special teams? Not really,

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Speaker 1: not in the punt return game. Right now, your kids turn,

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Speaker 1: you get the rest of it, right, and then you

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Speaker 1: know the defense out on the field, and then you

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Speaker 1: come back. Yeah you can if even if you get

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Speaker 1: an offense, you're sitting there watching the defense, catching your

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Speaker 1: catching your wind and yeah, yeah, that's that's good because

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Speaker 1: that's everyone. That's kind of the thing, right. You never

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Speaker 1: want to you'll play offense and defense, but you really

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Speaker 1: want to return punts. Yeah, like this playing offense in

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game, first and goal from the sixth you kind

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Speaker 1: of go in short motion to the left and then

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Speaker 1: turn around and go the other way and run into

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Speaker 1: the end zone. Tell us about that play and what

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Speaker 1: went on for you in that play. Well, during that drive,

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Speaker 1: I took coach. I said, uh, they're not they're not

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Speaker 1: falling for the fake sweeps. So we had to play

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Speaker 1: already installed. So we got into in a red zone

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Speaker 1: the goal line area. I was like, I was in

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Speaker 1: my mind, I was like, I think he's gonna call it.

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Speaker 1: So we went in and he called it and I

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Speaker 1: ran across. I seen that they were pointing like the

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Speaker 1: balls coming back this way when it was really going

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Speaker 1: back the other way. So it worked out pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Short motions. They didn't think there was coming to the

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Speaker 1: Yeah it is right. Two great blocks, two great blocks,

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Speaker 1: about to say, and and those the crew they cut

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Speaker 1: those guys and they went down in Unison. It was awesome. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a walk in. I think before it right after,

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Speaker 1: I was like, because I've seen it, I seen it.

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Speaker 1: It was like slow motion. Yeah. Yeah, my first tes

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Speaker 1: down felt like slow I was like, oh, it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: First NFL touchdown. How does that feel? It felt great,

1262
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: you know, it felt amazing. I scored tesown a preseason,

1263
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: but this is better than preseason. You never like all

1264
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: the ball, I know not Whatice saying. Right, brought it

1265
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: right over to the side. I kept it and you

1266
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: look like you belong here. It was you jump right

1267
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: into the stands like the Lambeau leap there. Yeah, I've

1268
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: done it before, but it's like I have nothing else

1269
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: to do, so I'm there. Man, it's slow too. You

1270
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: can't get up there. Yeah. I didn't get too high,

1271
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: but I don't know maybe next next time. Yeah, you

1272
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: gotta get your hips up on the wall so you

1273
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: sat there. Yeah, it would be a nice picture too, right,

1274
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 1: I got a few good pictures though. Yeah, we're witha

1275
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: McKenzie Bill's wide receiver. Tell us I want your I

1276
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: wonder your impressions about the atmosphere in the stadium where

1277
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: with everything that went on, you built a fourteen and

1278
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: nothing lead, they tie it up, and then the third

1279
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: quarter was absolutely crazy at the end. Tell me just

1280
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: your overall I was. I was talking about actually to

1281
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: my girlfriend last night. I was like, that was like

1282
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: the best moment of the game. I've never the third quarter. Yeah,

1283
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: after the fight. I was like, after the fight, everything

1284
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: went right, Like I was like, they went through and

1285
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: out and they missed the field. I was like, this

1286
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: is this is the best moment of the game. I

1287
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: don't care about the touchdown. Yeah it's it's you're right.

1288
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: And you could feel it too when they missed that kick.

1289
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah it You know, the defense comes off and they're

1290
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: they're fired up and yeah, so that kind of gives

1291
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: the offense like that energy to come on the field,

1292
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: and indeed you went down and finished up with a touchdown.

1293
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 1: That was awesome. That was a right, It's a rare moment. Yeah,

1294
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I've never felt nothing like it because

1295
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: that was my first time. I don't know, I guess

1296
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: it was amazing to me because my first time seeing

1297
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: something like that happened and then its going good, So

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01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: it was it was it was good. Yeah, we've all

1299
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: seen it go bad Rember and you know what else,

1300
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of uh, you know, you don't want

1301
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: to make too much of it, but what you just said,

1302
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: it was the best moment of the game when the

1303
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: defense was making those plays, and when the offense is

1304
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: making plays, the defense is up there and and and shouting.

1305
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like this team there's no real

1306
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: split offense defense. I you know, I see guys slapping

1307
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen on the head, congratulating you. It's it's pretty

1308
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 1: together group. Sometimes teams will just kind of go their

1309
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: own way offense and defense. Uh. I mean that's what

1310
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: I since here as well, Like there's all it's just

1311
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: a bond. There's like there's no offense defense, there's just

1312
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: a team. Like everybody's together offensive defense, special teams as well.

1313
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: And you know that's what I like about it here

1314
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: and it's it's been amazing so far, so I hope

1315
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: we can keep it up. Been here a couple of weeks.

1316
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: How do you like living here so far? Uh? I

1317
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: still stay in the hotel, but it's all right. I'm yeah, yeah,

1318
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: I hope you stay here for you know, ten years. Yeah. Thanks,

1319
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: good to talk to me. Thanks for coming by. Isaai McKenzie,

1320
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: Bill's wide Receiver. We come back. Peter King, a long

1321
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: time a sports illustrated writer now with Football Morning in America.

1322
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,320
Speaker 1: We talked to him a little bit earlier today and

1323
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: he'll be joining Steve and I when we return. One

1324
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: Mill's Life presented by Kalida Health from One Deals Drive.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back our two of

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01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our side studio,

1327
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Speaker 1: our studio number two, the Steve Spasto Memorial Studio as

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01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: we like to call it. Joined right now on the

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Speaker 1: line by a Tuesday guest for us every week. He

1330
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: is from Football Morning in America, a regular weekly columnists,

1331
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: longtime sports illustrated columnists, an NFL writer. Happy to have

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01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: Peter King on the line. Hello, Peter, John Murphy and

1333
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in Buffalo. Thanks for joining us. What's up, guy,

1334
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: how are you. We're well, we've got two straight wins

1335
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: to work with. Kind of change the whole narrative up

1336
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: here in Buffalo. I'm sure as you can imagine. You know,

1337
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: it was pretty amazing. That was one of the most

1338
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 1: intriguing games of the year. Just very very strange. And

1339
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: I talked to Josh Allen after the game by phone,

1340
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: and he told me he thought it was going to

1341
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: be a chippy game because they talk a lot. And

1342
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: the one thing about that, the one thing about about

1343
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: the whole sort of Jalen Ramsey run up to this

1344
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: and all that. I just found it so strange that

1345
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: Doug Morone, who is supposed to be this great disciplinarian,

1346
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: has a guy run sixty yards across the field, Leonard

1347
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: Fournette in this game, anyway, his most indispensable player. Every

1348
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: player in the NFL knows that once you start throwing punches,

1349
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: you are going to be ejected. He in the middle

1350
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: of a tie game with eighteen minutes to go and

1351
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 1: a play set to decide whether you're going to go

1352
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 1: ahead or stay tied, and it ended up they ended

1353
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 1: up staying tied. But but whatever I mean, this supposed

1354
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: disciplinarian has his most indispensable player runs sixty yards across

1355
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: the field to get to Shack Lawson, and he gets there,

1356
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: he starts throwing punches. It's I hate to say that

1357
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: it's all that it's grounds for being fired, but you know,

1358
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: I think that that was a that was a very

1359
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: very bad day Sunday for Doug Moron. Well, it also

1360
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: turned out to be a bad day for Nate Hackett

1361
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: as well. If you're if you're looking for somebody that

1362
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: really took the bullet for the organization, so to speak, Um,

1363
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: you know that was the fall guy. Nate Hackett might

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01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: have been that guy, which I don't I doubt that

1365
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: he deserved all of that. But there was a couple

1366
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: of things that happened, no question, And if you watch

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01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: that game and its entirety, Peter, that brawl changed everything

1368
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: during that football game. The crowd got into it, The

1369
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills were energized by particularly since the end of

1370
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: the way that drive happened. The touchdown was reversed, they

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01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 1: got a false start, they got a holding penalty, they

1372
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: got a touchdown called back. The Bills got a sack,

1373
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: they missed a field goal, and all of a sudden,

1374
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: the lights which went on for the Bills organization, and

1375
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: that changed the entire momentum. How do you I mean,

1376
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: this game is really being as competitive as it is

1377
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: around the league, and we see the other places as well.

1378
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: How do you justify that as a Do you think

1379
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett's job came down to the way that game

1380
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: came down or do you think it was a total

1381
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 1: planned Do you think Doug Morone's trying to save his job?

1382
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: What happened there? I mean, I don't know why. I

1383
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: don't know why Nathaniel Lackey got fired. I don't other

1384
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: than you know, the quarterback stinks. They paid him a

1385
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: lot of money. They couldn't find a way to get

1386
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: him to play well. Last seven games, six touchdown passes.

1387
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: This is in nineteen forty two, anymore in the modern NFL.

1388
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 1: You got you gotta be better than Blake Bortles. By

1389
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: the way, one of the funniest things I've heard all

1390
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: years when Blake Bortles in mid season told NFL Network, Yeah,

1391
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: I know how this thing works around here. When we win,

1392
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: it's somebody else doing it when we lose, it's always

1393
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: my fault. I mean that might be if you go

1394
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: into the category of most tone deaf quotes in NFL history,

1395
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: I think that would be in the top one. But anyway,

1396
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: I think that I think this all comes down to

1397
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: the fact that the most disappointing team in the NFL

1398
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 1: this year, and it's not even remotely close, is Jacksonville.

1399
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: But the one thing you thought you could hang your

1400
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: hat on was that this was going to be a

1401
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: discipline team. And from the start of this year, going

1402
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: back to Jalen Ramsey and gquh and and going back

1403
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: to you know, a lot of sort of mental gaffs

1404
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: over the last seven weeks or last yeah, when they've

1405
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: been on this losing streak. I'm I'm just mind boggle

1406
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: that a guy who I like and who I know

1407
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: and who I think it runs a good ship normally

1408
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 1: it's it's a circus in Jacksonville, and I do not

1409
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: understand how you know. And the other part of it

1410
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: is how bizarre is it? If there would be one

1411
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: team you think that would be walking a very straight line,

1412
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: don't you think it would be the team that was

1413
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: run by Tom Coughlin. And coached by Doug Maroney. I

1414
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: certainly would. I'm I'm I'm I'm blown away. I'm blown

1415
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 1: away by the stuff I see out of Jacksonville. Blown away. Hey,

1416
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,920
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about what you see from

1417
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, Peter. As you've mentioned, you talked to

1418
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, and you wrote in your Football in America

1419
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: column yesterday that Josh took a big step forward. What

1420
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: did you see in his game? He only attempted eighteen passes.

1421
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: What did you see? Here's here's sort of the thing

1422
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: that I thought in this game. I don't know, John,

1423
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: you saw it, and you know, I'm sure that the

1424
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: stadium was just electrified by it. But his touchdown path,

1425
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 1: and first of all, how does this undrafted free agent

1426
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,599
Speaker 1: from Alabama? How is he an undrafted player? I mean,

1427
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: first of all, he's six two, he runs a four four,

1428
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: and I mean, how in the world is a guy

1429
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 1: like him not drafted? I that was stunning to me.

1430
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: But if you watch Josh Allen on this play, the

1431
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: thing that I thought was really impressive is that he

1432
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 1: felt what was happening in the pocket. If he had

1433
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: waited a one hundredth of a second more, he was

1434
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,560
Speaker 1: going to get hit from behind, and he knew it,

1435
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: he could feel it. He's got that sense in the

1436
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: pocket and he waited until the last possible moment to

1437
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: get rid of that ball, and it was a perfect throw.

1438
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: He knowing when to leave the pocket, when to run,

1439
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: when to stay. I mean, I just thought that in

1440
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:24,760
Speaker 1: terms of quarterback presence and performance, he really had a

1441
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 1: great day. I agree with you, Peter, and he's a

1442
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: great day, I mean by his standards, by rookie standards, yeah,

1443
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: no question. But there is a lot that needs to

1444
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 1: go on with Josh Allen before you know, we kind

1445
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: of lay the mantle of a great quarterback first of all.

1446
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: And one of the things that happened yesterday or on

1447
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars was the Bills still struggled

1448
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: to run the football, and then on the defensive side,

1449
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: as you said, when Lord Leonard Fournette got thrown out

1450
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 1: of that game, that changed Jacksonville as well. He's their

1451
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: best player, and their ability to run the football if evaporated,

1452
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: and what I thought was a dominating performance by their

1453
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,559
Speaker 1: offensive line may indeed may have been just a dominating

1454
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: performance by Leonard Fournette. Yeah, I agree, Steve. I mean

1455
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 1: I thought watching I watched a lot of this game.

1456
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: To it, I was like a moth to the light

1457
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 1: watching this game. But I kept saying to myself, you know,

1458
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: it's so it's so odd to see Jacksonville, uh, you know,

1459
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: not dominate games after the way they ended last year.

1460
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, I will say this, just

1461
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: in this game, I don't think it's really uh necessarily,

1462
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,759
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it's a mark

1463
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: against the Bill that they couldn't run the ball against Jacksonville.

1464
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 1: That really is a big strength of there's one a

1465
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: few this year. Um well, I wouldn't draw a lot

1466
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 1: of a lot from this. I would more look at

1467
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:07,919
Speaker 1: the positive where you know, even though in their base offense,

1468
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 1: you know, normal running they you know they were they

1469
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: were stopped a lot. Um. They now have a quarterback

1470
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: who obviously knows when to hold them, when to fold them, um.

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: And I would I'd be encouraged by that and know

1472
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: that it's very likely the running game is going to

1473
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: get better. Because I can tell you this and you

1474
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: guys know it. John mcdermot's not given up on it.

1475
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: Right with Peter King from Football Morning in America. Peter,

1476
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: one more question I have for you about the Buffalo game.

1477
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: You obviously saw something you liked from the atmosphere at

1478
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: New Airfield. You wrote to the Bills should never move.

1479
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: What did you see what caught your attention there? I

1480
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: just I mean, you're I said this to Josh Allen

1481
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: the first thing I said when I got him on

1482
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 1: the phone, I said, I gotta know what you think

1483
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: about playing in that atmosphere because to me, with all

1484
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 1: due respect to Seattle, the home field advantage in Buffalo,

1485
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: it is really worth something because you know, in reality,

1486
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 1: what really are the Bills playing for other than their

1487
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: own jobs? Okay, and that is a motivational factor, but

1488
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: that game was really really important to these guys. And

1489
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: one of the reasons it's important is because it's so

1490
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: important to those fans and the noise they make in

1491
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: the dedication they show. You know, I've talked about this

1492
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, but a few years ago I

1493
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: think it was post Tasker. But a few years ago

1494
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: I never forget going into couple of interviews on a

1495
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 1: Saturday before the game for Sports Illustrated, and I got

1496
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: there about I don't know, eight o'clock in the morning,

1497
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 1: and I'd say eighty percent of the of the of

1498
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: that RV lot was full, and these people were out

1499
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: cooking breakfast and throwing the football around, and I just thought,

1500
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: the game is not for twenty eight hours, and here

1501
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: they are. It's just and I just and you know what,

1502
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,600
Speaker 1: if you're a player there the atmosphere, you just have

1503
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: to feel it. Yeah, you got it. You just you

1504
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: have to feel it. Steve, I would just love to know.

1505
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: I just love to hear your thought about what that

1506
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 1: was like and if it you know, look, you're you're

1507
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: retired now you can tell me. The truth doesn't mean

1508
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 1: anything to a player. Yeah, certainly it does, Peter, you

1509
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 1: know that. I mean, it's it's it's one part of

1510
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: the reasons that makes it fun to play, particularly at

1511
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 1: home in the NFL, when you've got seventy thousand people

1512
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: cheering four you and guys who are at the top

1513
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: of their game as teammates, you're playing at the top

1514
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: level of the sport, and to go out there and

1515
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: know that this is the pinnacle of your of your sport,

1516
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: playing at home with people who are on your side,

1517
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: who live it and breathe it. Yeah, it makes an

1518
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: enormous difference. And there's there's no question about it. And

1519
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: I think, you know, teams are there's an I think,

1520
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: more so than any other sport, this game has an

1521
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: emotional content to it that makes a difference in the outcome.

1522
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: You have a you have a physical element, you have

1523
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: an emotional element. You have you know, an element that's

1524
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: intangible that has a direct effect on the outcome of

1525
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 1: every game. And I think that makes it different than

1526
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,600
Speaker 1: a lot of other sports. You know, Peter King joins us,

1527
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: but that's what it strikes me on the outside, just

1528
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: just going every week, and like you know, if I

1529
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: go even and look, I think the fans and Fox

1530
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: were are very good. Uh and and and fans in

1531
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: a lot of stadiums are very good. But the two places,

1532
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: quite honestly, where I feel at the most, and I'd

1533
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: say probably even a little bit more than Philadelphia, although

1534
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: Philadelphia is very close too, is Seattle and Buffalo. I

1535
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: just I feel something different when I go to a

1536
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: game there. Uh. And to be fair, I really should

1537
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: add Philadelphia because that's an insane place too. But I

1538
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: remember Arrowhead, Arrowhead, Arrowheads great too. But I'll say this

1539
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: about Arrowhead and I don't you no mean, no way

1540
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 1: to uh uh to slight their fans. But I also

1541
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: sort of look at the results and the Chiefs are

1542
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 1: hardly unbeatable at home. I mean, they've lost two years

1543
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 1: in a row in the playoffs at home. Um and

1544
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 1: and I and again, I don't mean, and look, the

1545
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 1: Bills have lost at home too, don't don't don't get

1546
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 1: me wrong, but but I'm just saying, when when the

1547
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: team is good, when there's something on the line, and

1548
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 1: I go to a game in that stadium, I do

1549
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: not think the Bills are going to lose the game.

1550
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I just think there's something and I think

1551
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: that game Sunday showed it. I don't think. I mean,

1552
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: if you line up the rosters one to fifty three,

1553
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 1: we could probably have some arguments. But I would say

1554
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville has more talent than Buffalo. But as Steve said,

1555
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: a lot of times, it comes down to something that

1556
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: you can't really put on paper, and you can't you

1557
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 1: can't talk about somebody's forty times, right, you know. It

1558
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: has to do with the environment and what it does

1559
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: to the people in that environment. We're with Peter King

1560
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: from Pro Football Talk NBC Sports here rights Football Morning

1561
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 1: in America. I want to just take a look around

1562
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 1: the NFL a little bit, Peter, and starting with last

1563
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 1: night's game, it was impressive. Now the Texans with another

1564
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: good home crowd, but they've won eight in a row.

1565
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you about the Tennessee Titans,

1566
01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: who seemed to be very tough to figure. And the

1567
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: one thing it's really tough to figure from my standpoint

1568
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: is Mike Vrabel, who gets pats on the back for

1569
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,719
Speaker 1: going for it on fourth down, But that was clearly

1570
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 1: a mistake last night, right on fourth down, given it

1571
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 1: to a guy who's never had an NFL carry before,

1572
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: Luke Stocker. Would I would do that ten out of ten. John.

1573
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 1: I love that call, and I'll tell you why I

1574
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: think the execution of it was not good. If you

1575
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: watch the replay, you see that that the offensive line

1576
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 1: in trying to push the strength of the of the

1577
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: of the Houston line to the left, nobody blocked the

1578
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:41,760
Speaker 1: on rushing linebacker in safety who both met Stocker right

1579
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 1: at the line and pushed him back. But look, yeah,

1580
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just gonna make this point at the time,

1581
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: I think I'm right and saying we'd have to check.

1582
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: But it was fourteen ten in favor of Houston. Houston

1583
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 1: had gone down the field on easily three time or

1584
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: two times already. And I look at this game and

1585
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: as a coach, I think you have to judge the

1586
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: kind of game you're in. You're playing a red hot team,

1587
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 1: they won seven in a row, and you have to

1588
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: judge the kind of game you're in. You have to say,

1589
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: is this Does this have the feel of a twenty

1590
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 1: four twenty one game or twenty one seventeen game. It

1591
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: had the feel of a thirty five twenty seven game

1592
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 1: to me, right, And I just thought that if you

1593
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: start settling for field goals when you're down inside the

1594
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 1: five yard line and you've got two feet to make,

1595
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 1: I would I'd try to make that and try to

1596
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: get the touchdown. I was. And I understand Stocker never

1597
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 1: had a carry before, and you could criticize, you criticize

1598
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: the play call, but yeah, I want to go for it.

1599
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: I don't mind going for it. But the play they

1600
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: ran was, well, here's the thing, and Peter, you can

1601
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 1: speak to this as well. I mean, they have Derrick

1602
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 1: Henry in the backfield, and Booker McFarlane and Jason Witten

1603
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 1: last night said, listen, you got a two hundred and

1604
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 1: thirty five pound or two undred and forty five pound

1605
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: running back and Derrick Henry back there. Let me tell you,

1606
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: have you ever seen Stocker the tight end that they

1607
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 1: handed the ball to the guys? Six six weighs two

1608
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: seventy He's bigger than Derrick Henry. He's certainly a bigger

1609
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: load to tackle. And plus part of the reason you

1610
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: said it, Peter, he had never had a care Why

1611
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 1: would they expect him to get the ball handed to

1612
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 1: him anyway? So, but I get it. I don't mind

1613
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: going for it. You can talk about the play selection

1614
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 1: all you want, but believe me, they went with a

1615
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: play selection they thought was both a surprise and b

1616
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 1: gahim a good chance to do it. And if the

1617
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: players don't execute it, that's one thing. And it didn't

1618
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: work out, there's no question about it. And Vrabel's got

1619
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: to defend that as a as a rookie head coach,

1620
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: and that's become his you know, he know what I'm doing.

1621
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: You know what I would always I agree with you there,

1622
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: you know, what I would always do, and I have

1623
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: the same problem when he went for it. Uh, they

1624
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: when they went to go for it in London, Remember

1625
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: at the end into that game, they went for the

1626
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 1: two point conversion and they tried what to me was

1627
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: the most difficult play on the field, which was an

1628
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 1: empty backfield. Mariota's staying in the pocket and choosing to

1629
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: try to throw the ball to the receiver who was

1630
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: furthest away from him. Okay, I just think it's a mistake.

1631
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 1: Here's what I would always do in a situation like that,

1632
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 1: or the vast majority of the time, I would basically

1633
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: have the field spread with five receivers. I'd have Mario

1634
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: to roll out and it would be his option. Okay, Marcus,

1635
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: if you can get eighteen inches, you dive for it.

1636
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: It's yours. But if you can't, you pick the guy

1637
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: in the end zone to throw it too. There are

1638
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 1: too many stout front teams right now to try to

1639
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: pound your head against the wall, at least in my opinion,

1640
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: and I would much rather when I have one of

1641
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: the most mobile quarterbacks in the game, I want to

1642
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: put the ball in his hands and I want to

1643
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: put the game on his feet. Yeah, I agree with

1644
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:07,479
Speaker 1: you there, But I think one of the things I

1645
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on just we spoke about the Bills

1646
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 1: brawl in Buffalo and how that changed the entire tide

1647
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: of the game. And in this case, the Titans, instead

1648
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: of being down one point thirteen to fourteen with a

1649
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,599
Speaker 1: field goal, they turn around, turn it over on downs

1650
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: and the next play goes ninety seven yards the other way,

1651
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 1: and now it's twenty one to ten and the game

1652
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: is almost out of hand. Right then is it worth

1653
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: that risk to you even going forward on fourth down?

1654
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,439
Speaker 1: Knowing that that you know obviously that's the worst possible

1655
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 1: case scenario for the Titans, But does that make it

1656
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: any easier to justify going for it? I think I

1657
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: think you have to. I always think, Steve, you have

1658
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 1: to know the kind of game you're in, and I

1659
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: think in the kind of game they were in on

1660
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: Monday night, you're playing a red hot team, a fairly

1661
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: explosive team. I always think there's going to be more

1662
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: points scored. So I always would be because because think

1663
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,879
Speaker 1: about this, I have no idea what what Tennessee's record

1664
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: in the last say couple of years is going forward

1665
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: on fourth in one or fourth in less than one.

1666
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,320
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if it wasn't better than fifty percent.

1667
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: And and here's the way I look at it. If

1668
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: you make it, it's highly likely you're going to score

1669
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So that is a four point swing, And

1670
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:37,679
Speaker 1: in my opinion, a four point swing in a game

1671
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: like that is massive. So I don't, I don't. I'm

1672
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: I'm probably more more inclined. You know, things change obviously

1673
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 1: in the last three or five minutes when when the

1674
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: score in the clock are going to dictate a lot

1675
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: of that. But early in a game, I'm very comfortable

1676
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:02,759
Speaker 1: going deep down feet when I'm deep in opponent territory,

1677
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable going for it on fourth. Peter. One more

1678
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 1: quick question for you, and it's about the winner of

1679
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 1: last night's game. Texans have won eight in a row.

1680
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: That's half a season. Is it time to consider them

1681
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: in the same league as say, the Chiefs and the

1682
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 1: Patriots as legitimate AFC Championship contenders? Yeah? I you know,

1683
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: the one the one thing when I use the AFC

1684
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: right now, I sort of see, you know, an absolute

1685
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 1: uh mishmash up at the top. I have no idea

1686
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,599
Speaker 1: how it's going to come out because Seattle not only

1687
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 1: has the Chargers at home left, but they also have

1688
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: to go to see I mean, I'm Kansas City not

1689
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 1: only has the Chargers at home on a Thursday night,

1690
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: but they have to go to Seattle. And they got

1691
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 1: Baltimore at home too. Now it's I could easily see

1692
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: them going three and oh in those three games, but

1693
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: I could also see him stubb in their toe and

1694
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: one of these three lost teams coming in, and you

1695
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 1: know they've already lost the tiebreakers in New England. So

1696
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 1: I don't think anything is a guinea right now in

1697
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:15,280
Speaker 1: the AFC. Peter, thanks for this. We'll talk to you

1698
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 1: again next week. Thank you very much. Sounds good, guys.

1699
01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 1: Take care. Peter King from Football Morning in America, the

1700
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: regular Monday column he writes for Pro Football Talk, and

1701
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,439
Speaker 1: of course you see him on NBC Sports. And Peter

1702
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: joined us on the Subway Fresh Take Hotline, Subway Eat Fresh,

1703
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: Stephen I coming back with more One Goes Live from

1704
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: One Goes Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio good discussion

1705
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 1: with Peter King. We thank him for joining us. He

1706
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:52,760
Speaker 1: does usually this time this hour on Tuesday afternoons. I

1707
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: think he misunderstood my question about the Titans. I don't

1708
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 1: mind going for it on fourth and goal down there,

1709
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: I just don't you get the ball to a tight

1710
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: end hasn't had a carry since high school. Yeah, I

1711
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: got a problem with that. It's a bad player. I

1712
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Listen, you can if I speak plays, any

1713
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: play that you call down, they're not calling it to

1714
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 1: be unsuccessful. They think it's got a shot to work.

1715
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: It was a bad call. What if it had gone

1716
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 1: in for a touchdown untouched? Then what I would say? Wow,

1717
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: that's an unusual call to give it to a carry

1718
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: to a guy who hasn't carried the ball, and maybe

1719
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: that's why it Indeed, whatever, it didn't work, No kidding,

1720
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,360
Speaker 1: no kidding. Anything that doesn't work is a bad idea.

1721
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: Is that your point? No? Well, there you go. It's

1722
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: what it sounds like. Wait, I'm in my Twitter mode.

1723
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm in my Twitter mode. Let me just let me fly,

1724
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: let me fly. Doesn't work, it's not a bad idea,

1725
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: But I think that's a bad idea to give the

1726
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,040
Speaker 1: football and a critical scoring situation to a guy who

1727
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,360
Speaker 1: hasn't had a carry in ten years. It's just stupid.

1728
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: Give it to the guy everybody expects to get it. Then, Yeah,

1729
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 1: maybe a running back who knows how to pick up

1730
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 1: two yards and get in the end zone. Yeah. I

1731
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: will say this, and not for what I said about uh,

1732
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: what's his name, Locker? Yeah, no, Stocker, Stocker what I

1733
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: said about him. He is big, But man, he ran

1734
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: like an idiot in that play because he used to

1735
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: running the football. I gotta say it. He looked, he

1736
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 1: looked a little unsure of himself because he's not used

1737
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: to run in the football. All right, I can't you know.

1738
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: It's no other way to run. That's all. Listen. That

1739
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: play was a failure, was a flop, and it lost

1740
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: in the game. Period. Hey, we were talking at the

1741
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: top of the show. The first segment of the show

1742
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: about the workouts. The Bills had the regular Tuesday workout

1743
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:31,640
Speaker 1: session going on. It appeared and from Ian Rappaport of

1744
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,519
Speaker 1: NFL Network, he's got a name on one of them.

1745
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: Former Eagles first round defensive end Marcus Smith, one of

1746
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: the Bills workouts today, according to Ian Rappaport of NFL

1747
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: dot Com, second workout of the year. He worked out

1748
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 1: for the Jets just last week left New Jersey without

1749
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: a deal the Bills. M Marcus Smith three seasons with

1750
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles, never made a start, registered only four sacks.

1751
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,759
Speaker 1: Twenty six years old, and he was talking about retirement

1752
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: after he was released by the Eagles. He only played

1753
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: on twenty percent of the Eagles defensive snaps a couple

1754
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: of years ago. Played for Seattle last year. Taking a

1755
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: flyer on the guy, but they worked him out. Yeah,

1756
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 1: you had two to fifty two snaps for Seattle last

1757
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: year and fourteen tackles two and a half Sex. Here's

1758
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 1: what you got Smith is nay, here's what you gotta

1759
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: know about those guys. If the guy was taking in

1760
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: the first round, even it was by Seattle, who's probably

1761
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 1: picked him what in the twenties, probably Seattle a year

1762
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: and they were in the playoffs maybe anyway, they were

1763
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: in the middle to the last part of the first

1764
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: round of the draft. Pick you know this. If the

1765
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:28,959
Speaker 1: guy was taking in the first round, he is, particularly

1766
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: as a defensive end. He's a real athlete. He's got

1767
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: some raw abilities, and that's what coaches always want to see.

1768
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: That's what scouts always want to see. It's always one

1769
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: of the things that they can check off boxes that

1770
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 1: they need to check off. So he's you know, guys

1771
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: that are athletic freaks or gifted in certain ways, they

1772
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: get a lot of looks, they get and they get

1773
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities. We've seen that decade after decade

1774
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Guys who are really gifted keep getting

1775
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 1: keep showing up someplace. And that's where Marcus Smith is now.

1776
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: He's making the rounds twenty six. He's already thinking about retiring.

1777
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 1: He must see something written. There's what is the deal

1778
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 1: with that? I don't know. I don't know. There's gotta

1779
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:06,640
Speaker 1: be there's got to be something between between, you know,

1780
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 1: the lines there that we don't know about, because a

1781
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 1: guy that's that gifted should be more productive. Bills had

1782
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 1: them in for a workout today. Now they have a

1783
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: book on Marcus Smith. If they're interested. At some point,

1784
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: maybe sooner or later, we'll find out a bunch of

1785
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 1: looked like a bunch of workouts for the Bills today.

1786
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 1: Hey on Twitter, question today five games left on the

1787
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: bill schedule? What more do you need to see from

1788
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the Buffalo offense? And why you can

1789
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: answer the question? You can give us a call. Eight

1790
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 1: h three oh five fifty twelve three one eight eight

1791
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty, or you can answer

1792
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: on Twitter and we may read your tweet on the

1793
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:40,679
Speaker 1: air on the phone line. Manny and Hamburg. Hello, Manny,

1794
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, you're on the air with us. Good afternoon, guys. Hi,

1795
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 1: I've just taken the back by an earlier caller and

1796
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Peter King kind of like dismissing the fact that we

1797
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: are not mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. I understand it's

1798
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,960
Speaker 1: an uphill battle, but we're still there. And my reason

1799
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 1: for thinking da is we've played five the first seven

1800
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: games away against a really stiff competition, the next five

1801
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: games that are most summer at home against competition that

1802
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,760
Speaker 1: is nowhere near as tough is the first five out

1803
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: of seven games. And plus we had turmoil at quarterback

1804
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: for the first half a year. Now that seems to

1805
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: be settled. And I don't see any reason why we

1806
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: can you know, maybe it's pie in the sky, but

1807
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,599
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why we can't run the table,

1808
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 1: get nine wins and maybe back into the playoffs. Well

1809
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: it might be it is pie in the sky. It

1810
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,640
Speaker 1: is absolutely a hundred percent pie in the skuy, no

1811
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,639
Speaker 1: question you're asking. Here's what you're asking for. You're asking

1812
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: for a team like Miami, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Tennessee, the

1813
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: Chargers Denver. All of those teams almost have to virtually

1814
01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: lose out. The Chargers almost completely have to lose out

1815
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: because they beat the Bills, they have to lose their

1816
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 1: next for us next five games in a row. The chart,

1817
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: the Colt's the same thing, the Titans the same thing.

1818
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: All these teams have to lose the rest of their

1819
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: games to put the Bills in the middle of It

1820
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: mthematically possible, It is mathematically possible, but it, like I said,

1821
01:30:15,080 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 1: it is a pie in the sky dream. And here's

1822
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,560
Speaker 1: the thing. You're sitting here with five games to go

1823
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 1: already asking for help. And that's that's a tough place

1824
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: to be. I get it. I mean, the Bills got

1825
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,560
Speaker 1: in nine and seven last year, and they have a

1826
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 1: shot if they run the table to go nine and

1827
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,960
Speaker 1: seven this year. But one more loss and they're done.

1828
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 1: Thanks for your call. Eight fifty two three one eight

1829
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty What would you

1830
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: like to see from Josh Allen and the Buffalo offense

1831
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 1: and remaining five games from the tweet sheet. Guy named

1832
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,560
Speaker 1: Jello tweets and I want to see Allen work on

1833
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 1: a short and underneath throws. I know the kid has

1834
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: a cannon, but Kenny hit the high accuracy throws consistently.

1835
01:30:56,280 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 1: I'd also like to see the team work on the

1836
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: ground game, see what Ivory and Murphy can do as

1837
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,000
Speaker 1: straight line runners. With Alan starting, I agree with all that.

1838
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't disc I know he had a rough game again,

1839
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 1: and I think i'd sense that among Bills fans some

1840
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: of them are thinking, enough of Shady. Let's see what

1841
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 1: Ivory is. The tweeter just put in, see whatever can

1842
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Murphy can do. I want to see more of what

1843
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: Shady can do, I really do. I want to see

1844
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: him how he can bounce back from last week. I

1845
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 1: don't think the end is imminent for Lashawn McCoy. Brandon

1846
01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: Mean is already on record saying he's in their plans

1847
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: for next year. So I wouldn't give up on him.

1848
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: If you are, you may not be, but I wouldn't

1849
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 1: give up on I agree. They need him. They need

1850
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: him to play and play well. They need him to

1851
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: be at least a threat they need him to be

1852
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 1: able to catch the ball out of the backfield. He's

1853
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: still very good in space. But here's the problem behind

1854
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line the Bills are presently putting out there,

1855
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: it's hard to run the football, particularly against a really

1856
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: top notch defensive front like they faced in Jacksonville. He

1857
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 1: heard Peter King say that in the interview we had

1858
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 1: just last a minute ago. He you know, you gotta

1859
01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 1: understand who they were playing against this last week. It

1860
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 1: was a very good defense in Jacksonville. And and the

1861
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: Bill's offensive line is not their strength, so you know

1862
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: they were up against it this last week. Now, they

1863
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: may be better against Miami this week. But in being better,

1864
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: that means that doesn't mean LaShaun McCoy's gonna get less carries. Uh,

1865
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 1: And I think it means he's still going to be

1866
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 1: a factor in their play selection and in what they

1867
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,720
Speaker 1: ask him to do. And but it's gonna take that

1868
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,040
Speaker 1: kind of matchup rather than the matchup they had this

1869
01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 1: last week for Lashawn to get out of out of

1870
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: the dull drums in the run game with everybody else.

1871
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 1: And I mentioned it earlier on and I was looking

1872
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: at some numbers, and you know, the schedule. Uh, they

1873
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:36,640
Speaker 1: won't see a strong defensive team the rest of the

1874
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 1: way as they saw last Sunday. They really won't. New

1875
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 1: England's playing better. England's playing better, but they're still not

1876
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,880
Speaker 1: like they're not like the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're not talented now.

1877
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's not playing well as a defense, but they're physically talented,

1878
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,600
Speaker 1: which is making up for some of the stuff that

1879
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: they're doing wrong. They've got some plus they've got a

1880
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: lockdown corner on the outside as well. But Jacksonville is good.

1881
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I mean they're good, and they're talent talented, and that's

1882
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: and that was as much had to do with the

1883
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: you know, the struggling running game last week is anything.

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Speaker 1: One more from the tweet sheet from Dougie Briggs. I

1885
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 1: want to see how Josh Allen plays against our division.

1886
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 1: He has not been able to yet, but I'm looking

1887
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 1: forward to it in his future. The division games, there's

1888
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 1: six very important games. So to answer your question, I

1889
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 1: want to see johsh and the offense continue to get

1890
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: points in yards we all do. You're right. There are

1891
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 1: four of the five remaining games are against division opponents,

1892
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: often twice. Patriots and Jets, and it'll be good to

1893
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 1: see how Josh Allen stacks up against the teams that

1894
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna face most of his career. Yeah, I agree.

1895
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 1: I think that's really that's a good astute assessment because

1896
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: those are the guy if Josh Allen turns out to

1897
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 1: be this guy that we all hope and hope that

1898
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,799
Speaker 1: he is, and he ends up being the Bills signal

1899
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:46,719
Speaker 1: call or a quarterback for fifteen years, Yeah, that's thirty

1900
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: matchups against each of those three teams, you know. I

1901
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: mean that's twice a year for fifteen years. That's like

1902
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady kind of lewis what we're looking at, right,

1903
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: You want to see Josh you have the record against

1904
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: the Jets somebody the New England page twenty eight three.

1905
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be nice? That doesn't happen it does anywhere? Yeah, right,

1906
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,760
Speaker 1: but that but that's what you're looking at. And I

1907
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a it's a great observation by

1908
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: by mister Briggs there that I want to see how

1909
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: he plays against these Plus I'll tell you this too,

1910
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: and I've heard this from other quarterbacks. Uh. I remember

1911
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning telling me this, and I keep going back

1912
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: to him because I early in his career I covered

1913
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 1: them a lot when they were when on that three

1914
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,680
Speaker 1: and thirteen season, and then the next year as well,

1915
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 1: when they didn't think you they were going to be

1916
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 1: that good. I got a lot of Peyton Manning games,

1917
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: and he said, Um, when I started seeing the same

1918
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 1: team twice for the second time, things really got better

1919
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 1: for me a lot better. And I think it's really

1920
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,680
Speaker 1: helpful for Josh Allen, even though they just played the

1921
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: Jets two weeks ago and he wasn't playing, to get

1922
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 1: back in see that same team on the field against

1923
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: him and his crew, It's gonna be good for him

1924
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: the second go round against Miami. When he sees him

1925
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 1: this week and then in three weeks going to see

1926
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: the same guys, the game will slowed down for him

1927
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: a little bit and maybe we'll see we'll get a

1928
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 1: glimpse of maybe what the future Josh Allen's gonna look like.

1929
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,560
Speaker 1: I think that's a really good observation. Let's see what

1930
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: he looks like second time around against some of these guys.

1931
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: We got one more hour to go, and in that hour,

1932
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk with former Buffalo Bills wide receiver Don Beebe,

1933
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,680
Speaker 1: Steve's former teammate. He's got a new job. He's a

1934
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 1: college football coach at Division three Aurora University outside Chicago,

1935
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Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. Don Beebe when we return. Speaking of Josh Allen,

1936
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: he is the subject of our milestones presented by Reichs

1937
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: Jewelers this week Reached Jewelers, the official jeweler of the

1938
01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. You know this already. Josh Allen with his

1939
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,680
Speaker 1: ninety nine rushing yards against Jacksonville, most rushing yards ever

1940
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,600
Speaker 1: by a Bill's quarterback in one game. That's reads milestones

1941
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: presented by Reach Jewelers, the official jeweler of the Buffalo Bills.

1942
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: We're back with more in a moment. One Bills Live

1943
01:35:47,160 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bills Radio, Hill Radio

1944
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 1: Network Sports Update. The update from One Bill's Drive. The

1945
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 1: day off for the Buffalo Bills today. They'll be back

1946
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: at work tomorrow, getting set to play the Miami Dolphins

1947
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: this week. The Bills have some injuries to get together

1948
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 1: on and talk about this week as well. Coaches at

1949
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: work today in the game planned players returned tomorrow after

1950
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: getting their usual Tuesday off. Tuesday is also a workout

1951
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,760
Speaker 1: day typically for teams around the NFL, and according to

1952
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 1: NFL Network, the Bills had a prominent former first round

1953
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: defensive end in for a workout today, Marcus Smith, who

1954
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,600
Speaker 1: was just released by the Seattle Seahawks in August. He

1955
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 1: spent three years with the Eagles, who made him a

1956
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, and they only had four sacks

1957
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:43,200
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen. He only played in twenty percent of

1958
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 1: their defensive snaps. Marcus Smith working out for the Bills today.

1959
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,680
Speaker 1: He worked out with the New York Jets last week

1960
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 1: and they did not offer him a contract either. The

1961
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Bills announcing today and Google Sports and Entertainment more accurately

1962
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:59,799
Speaker 1: announcing that they have hired an advisory firm to assist

1963
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:02,679
Speaker 1: their efforts in determining the next steps for a Bill

1964
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: Stadium and the Key Bank Center, the home of the

1965
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 1: Buffalo Sabers. They've hired c aa Icon to conduct a

1966
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: privately funded Sunday to help identify the best options for

1967
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 1: the ownership, fans, and the community. Over the coming month,

1968
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 1: c aa Icon will guide PSC through a stadium feasibility

1969
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,720
Speaker 1: analysis to identify the needed improvements for all aspects of

1970
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 1: the experience for Bills and Savers fans. The Google Sports

1971
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 1: and Entertainment say there is no final decision made yet

1972
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:31,560
Speaker 1: on whether the Bills get a new stadium or not.

1973
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Jaguars running back Leonard Fournette has been suspended one game

1974
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: after his ejection for fighting against the Bills last Sunday.

1975
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,360
Speaker 1: It is a one game, unpaid suspension. The league said

1976
01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: he violated its unsports wnight conduct and unnecessary roughness rules

1977
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 1: and as a result, will miss this Sunday's game against

1978
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. He can't appeal Fournette. According to Jaguars

1979
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: coach Doug Marron, he spoke with Moron and other players

1980
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 1: about the fight, which happened late in the third quarter.

1981
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 1: And Savers Hockey tonight seven o'clock. The Sabers at home

1982
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 1: against San Jose. The Savers have won ninth straight going

1983
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: into this game tonight. That's the update from One Bill's Drive.

1984
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,639
Speaker 1: John Murphy Steve Tasker in our One Buffalo Studio. Very

1985
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: happy to welcome out of the line, former teammate, good

1986
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,800
Speaker 1: friend to Steves and a pretty good buddy of mine.

1987
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 1: Happy to have the new head coach at Aroor University

1988
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: Football Division three Football and Illinois, Don Beebe, former Bills

1989
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver on the line. Don good to talk with you.

1990
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, and congratulations on the job. That's fantastic. Yeah,

1991
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate Murph, Thanks man, Steve, How you doing doing good?

1992
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: Budd Hey, thank congratulations. How's h When do you take

1993
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:35,799
Speaker 1: Have you already taken over? Are you in your offices?

1994
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Have you set up? How's that going with your new

1995
01:38:38,280 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: coaching position. Yeah, I'm in the office right now. I

1996
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,719
Speaker 1: started about two weeks ago and it's been a whirlwin

1997
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:45,280
Speaker 1: because it's right in the middle of recruiting some my

1998
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: head spending one hundred miles an hour. But I am

1999
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: loving every second of it. Man. So it's it's we're

2000
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 1: hitting the thing run. We're just trying to get the

2001
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 1: right players in here, you know, and make this a

2002
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: powerhouse Division three program. That's the that's the idea. How

2003
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: did you as boull of staff? Well, you know, you

2004
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: start with your inner circle um of guys that I've

2005
01:39:05,439 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 1: coached with at a Royal Christian, you know, because I

2006
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 1: was over there for fourteen years and and you know,

2007
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: one of the guys, our old line guy, played with

2008
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,759
Speaker 1: the Bills for a couple of years center and guards.

2009
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 1: So he's our old line coach, Mike too soul. So

2010
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: he was there I want to say around two two

2011
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:23,000
Speaker 1: thousand and two thousand and one sumwhere in the area.

2012
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: He was a journeyman. He just kind of came in

2013
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 1: and out. But he got a good enough experience and

2014
01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: was and uh learned a lot even though he's there

2015
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 1: for a short stint. But um and then uh and

2016
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 1: then I recommendations from guys from the inner circle. Right, Um,

2017
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: you just got at this level. You got to have

2018
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 1: great recruiters, right, and that is that what you focus

2019
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: on as much as the x is and OS part

2020
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: of it. The x is and OS, as you know,

2021
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 1: is the easy part. You got to get players. And

2022
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 1: Marv used to tell us all the time, he says,

2023
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm a good coach because I got great players, you know,

2024
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: So we gotta go get him. Get down, baby. Former

2025
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 1: Bills wide receiver, nine years in the NFL with a

2026
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 1: Bill with Carolina with Green Bay. Don tell me about

2027
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 1: your experience at Aurora Christian High School, same town, right,

2028
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 1: That's that's your hometown, right, you grew up down the

2029
01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: road there, right, Sugar Grove, Illinois. Yeah, it's I could

2030
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: almost walked to my high school. I'm also about ten minutes,

2031
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:15,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, so it's it's close. But the thing is,

2032
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:18,080
Speaker 1: I was I was literally planning on going south to

2033
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,960
Speaker 1: Texas or Tennessee or Arkansas. I was looking at high

2034
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: schools down there where you know, football is a full

2035
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: time job. Or I was going to Northern Illinois. So

2036
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 1: I and then this thing just popped up literally three

2037
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 1: weeks ago and went very fast, and I took it.

2038
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,479
Speaker 1: I just knew it was right place, and I'm enjoying

2039
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:41,160
Speaker 1: every second of it. So it reminds me a lot

2040
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: of a Royal Christian. When we took a Royal Christian

2041
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 1: over in two thousand and four, it had no weight room,

2042
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: had no field, had seven team players freshmen through senior years.

2043
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 1: And I looked at those boys that first day and

2044
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: I said, boys, I said, one day, we're going to

2045
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:55,839
Speaker 1: win a state championship here. And they thought it was crazy,

2046
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 1: you know, And sure enough we went to it three

2047
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: and ten years, guys to five semifinals in seven quarterfinals,

2048
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 1: and went to the state championship three times and won

2049
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 1: two and so and now I'm in a similar situation here.

2050
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 1: We've never won a playoff game here, right, m And

2051
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: so that's the goal. The goal is not just to

2052
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: win a conference championship. The goal here is to win

2053
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 1: a national championship. And they just got to buy into it. Well,

2054
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:20,760
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And I knew, And of course I was

2055
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:23,360
Speaker 1: familiar with the success you had, not only yet with

2056
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: your high school coaching, and I knew how how fun

2057
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 1: it was for you and I and I lamented the

2058
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,200
Speaker 1: fact that I lost another friend of the coaching profession.

2059
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 1: But hey, I want to ask you too about Chad.

2060
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: He's got a hammy now, he's kind of up and down.

2061
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,559
Speaker 1: How's that experience been for him with the Minnesota Vikings?

2062
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:42,519
Speaker 1: Your son, Well, as you know, Steve, you just I mean,

2063
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 1: you just got you just love a kid like that.

2064
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: He's a lot like Luke your boy, you know, or

2065
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: they're just that that under the radar guy. And literally

2066
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,920
Speaker 1: had to pay his own way to the rookie mini camp,

2067
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,800
Speaker 1: which nobody ever makes it from that that deal. And

2068
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 1: he goes in there and kills it and in three days,

2069
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 1: within three days, he had Zimmer following him around the

2070
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:05,479
Speaker 1: whole third day, wherever ched went, coach Himmer was right

2071
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 1: behind him and um and at the end of that day,

2072
01:42:08,200 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 1: they put him in, put him through a physical the

2073
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:11,800
Speaker 1: next day. They kept him next day and signed it

2074
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: to a three year deal. And then he goes into

2075
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: camp twelfth and the on the roster out of twelve

2076
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,600
Speaker 1: and uh and he just kept doing. Every day was

2077
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 1: game day to him and uh. He just and eventually

2078
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,600
Speaker 1: got to where he made the fifty. Uh. Well they

2079
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: cut him and that's because he did something to growing

2080
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 1: going into the last game preseason game, and so they

2081
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: kind of you could hide the guy because he was

2082
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna make the fifty three um and uh. And so

2083
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:38,760
Speaker 1: they they put him on the practice squad and then

2084
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 1: every day in practice he was a player player of

2085
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 1: the week in the practice squad three three out of

2086
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: three times the first three weeks and um and so

2087
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: with that, coach Zimmer finally just said, we can't stop

2088
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: him in practice with our first team defense. Three miles

2089
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,280
Speaker 1: will play the kid. So they landed up, you know,

2090
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 1: bringing him up I think three weeks ago, four weeks ago.

2091
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 1: And in his first first game, first series, had two

2092
01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:04,160
Speaker 1: catches of the first series and they end up scoring

2093
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 1: on that and and and he's really done great guys,

2094
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm proud of the kid. He's worked

2095
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 1: really hard and you know, and now he had a

2096
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 1: little hamstring issue. But uh, we're just hoping that he

2097
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 1: gets back healthy enough and make a playoff run here

2098
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,960
Speaker 1: r hamstrings genetic genetic problems. Thanks John for bringing up.

2099
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 1: It was just awful. I mean it was this is

2100
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:26,760
Speaker 1: his first time ever with the hamstring. So he's now

2101
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,160
Speaker 1: he's had injuries. Now he's broke a lot of bones

2102
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,080
Speaker 1: and done a lot of things. But isn't it I

2103
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: guess so I don't know, he's really when we get

2104
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: to the NFL. I mean, nothing else was great? Yeah,

2105
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 1: exactly right. Hey, Chad inherit your speed? I mean, is

2106
01:43:41,120 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 1: that his main calling card with the Vikings now in

2107
01:43:43,479 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: his first year? Well let me just say this, Uh

2108
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:50,000
Speaker 1: the simple answers now, um, but I will say that

2109
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 1: Chad is he has a set of skills that are

2110
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 1: different than me. I was an ex guy outside guy

2111
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: doing the deep comeback, you know, post go deep dig

2112
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. Chad's more of a Wes Welker

2113
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:04,600
Speaker 1: slot kind of guy. And back in our day we

2114
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:06,600
Speaker 1: didn't really have that. I mean, Andre really was the

2115
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 1: first kind of slot guy in the spread offenses that

2116
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 1: morphed into what it is today and then it became

2117
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,320
Speaker 1: the West Welkers of the world. Well, now every team

2118
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 1: has those those kind of guys, and Chad is Chad

2119
01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: is more. He's quicker than I was, more explosive out

2120
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 1: of his cut than I was, a way better route runner,

2121
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: and he catches the ball. He has great ball skills,

2122
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:30,360
Speaker 1: so completely different, two different receivers. But he did not

2123
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: inherit the four two. No, he the fastest he's ever

2124
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,559
Speaker 1: ran that I know of. There's a four four seven,

2125
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 1: but he's in the range of a mid four or

2126
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: five consistently. Wow. Yeah, that's and that's about Yeah, And

2127
01:44:41,160 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 1: you're right, it's the way you describe your kid is

2128
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: the way I describe mine to other people as well.

2129
01:44:47,880 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: There are certain things that um that he got inherently,

2130
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:54,679
Speaker 1: but most of it he's get it through hard work,

2131
01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 1: which is a lot of what you and I would

2132
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: tell people anyway. That's how we made it to the NFL,

2133
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 1: is how Chad made It's what my son does. Now,

2134
01:45:01,640 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: did you do it with hard work? And it's great

2135
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: to see it be rewarded. Yeah, And I knew when

2136
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,559
Speaker 1: he was a freshman. He was five one, one hundred

2137
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: and seven pounds, and I looked at him and I said,

2138
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 1: you want to what because you want to play college football,

2139
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 1: right and or you want to play in the NFL.

2140
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,600
Speaker 1: And it was his dream. So I looked and I

2141
01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:18,559
Speaker 1: said to him, I said, if that's the case, son,

2142
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna have to train year round, you know.

2143
01:45:21,080 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 1: And I was in the business of training kids, so

2144
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,720
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just knew that he was

2145
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to have a set of skills of route running,

2146
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 1: being smart, and great ball skills if he had any

2147
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:33,200
Speaker 1: kind of chance, because I didn't think he was going

2148
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: to ever be a four two or four three guy.

2149
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm with former Bills receiver Don Beebe, the brand new

2150
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:41,439
Speaker 1: head coach at Aurora University, about forty miles west of Chicago.

2151
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,720
Speaker 1: You talked about training. Do you still have the house

2152
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,839
Speaker 1: of speed, Dondie? You still do work with teams, college

2153
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,599
Speaker 1: and proteins without some speed. I do. We're scaled back

2154
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:52,080
Speaker 1: a little bit now that I'm a head coach because

2155
01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 1: the demands on that time is quite significant. But the

2156
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 1: beauty of it is during the fall, we never did

2157
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,880
Speaker 1: much training anyway in the fall because I was always coaching.

2158
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,600
Speaker 1: So now that I'm coaching, the House of Speed is

2159
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:05,559
Speaker 1: going to be more towards the off season, which we're

2160
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: starting to get into here in December, which we start

2161
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,040
Speaker 1: kicking off our academies and stuff of that nature. But

2162
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,960
Speaker 1: I will still do House of Speed. Yes, yeah, you're

2163
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 1: gonna incorporate all that into your program at Aurora University, correct. Yeah.

2164
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: And the and the nice thing about it, Steve is

2165
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 1: Chad Trudeau was one of our first students twenty years

2166
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: ago and he's the head of strength and training here.

2167
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:29,160
Speaker 1: So I mean, what a perfect fit that was. But

2168
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: you will definitely incorporate the House of speedway. Here we're

2169
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: with Don Beebe talking about his new job. He don

2170
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,240
Speaker 1: tell me about and you mentioned your son went to

2171
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 1: Northern Illinois. Adam Feeling with the Vikings is a Northern

2172
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 1: Illinois product, right, Adam is a see where'd he come

2173
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: out of man k or somewhere down D two school? Okay?

2174
01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 1: And then so they have three of them, and then

2175
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,640
Speaker 1: Brandon Zilstra, who's another guy on the active roster. So

2176
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 1: three guys of the fifty three man roster on out

2177
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,880
Speaker 1: of six. Why outs came from you know, smaller school

2178
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: now Northern. I wouldn't say as a small school because

2179
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 1: the mac is that's big, that's big football. But um,

2180
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 1: but came from nowhere, let's say. Uh. And the kame

2181
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean the Adam was a rose, a practice squad

2182
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 1: guy his whole year. Never even brought him off the

2183
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: practice squad, kept him there the whole year, and then

2184
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 1: the next year he played special teams the whole year,

2185
01:47:21,720 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 1: and then the third year is when he became who

2186
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:25,840
Speaker 1: he is. And now he's you know, you could argue

2187
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,600
Speaker 1: the best in the league. Tell us the story. I

2188
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: read about this in the paper the other day about

2189
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: how Marv Leavy essentially offered you a position coaching right

2190
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: about ten fifteen years ago. He did. Two thousand and

2191
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:40,439
Speaker 1: five I brought, I brought coaching sold. Two thousand and

2192
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: four was my first year Roy Christian and we made

2193
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:44,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs for the first time in the history. And

2194
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 1: who did I bring in to do the pregame speech

2195
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:50,960
Speaker 1: in this dungeon of the locker room, coach Levy? It

2196
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: was I mean, it was awesome, all right. So we

2197
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: won the game. And after that year's over, he calls

2198
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 1: me and he's about to go the next day, he's

2199
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: gonna announce he's gonna be the GM. And he calls

2200
01:48:04,760 --> 01:48:06,160
Speaker 1: me that night. I'll never forget it. Was laying him

2201
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 1: in a bed about nine thirty at night and I

2202
01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:10,160
Speaker 1: saw in the caller ID coach LEVI. I was like, what,

2203
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 1: why is he calling? So I pick it up and

2204
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: he said, hey, Donnie says, you know, we chat a

2205
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:17,000
Speaker 1: little bit and he said, hey, I'm gonna announce tomorrow

2206
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the GM at the Buffalo. I said, wow,

2207
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: that's awesome. And in my mind, I'm thinking, so why

2208
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 1: do you call me? And he said, you know, did

2209
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 1: you would you ever consider coaching at the at that level?

2210
01:48:29,240 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: And I said, well, gosh, man, I at first, I'm

2211
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 1: honored that you would even consider me to go back.

2212
01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:35,719
Speaker 1: And who knows what that would have been quality control,

2213
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: I don't have any idea, you know, where you start up.

2214
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 1: But I said, man, my heart's with these kids and

2215
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 1: I just can't pull that trigger right now, coach. But

2216
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm thankful, and so I stayed and I'm glad I did.

2217
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: I would have missed out on a lot, I mean,

2218
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,680
Speaker 1: winning back to back state championships with your son on

2219
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: the field. It gets no better than that. Yeah. Yeah,

2220
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: one of the things that I want to bring up.

2221
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 1: And a lot of people remember this, and it's it's

2222
01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 1: and I get reminded of it about once a month

2223
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: for the last twenty five years, as the play you

2224
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 1: ran leon letdown and used to I mean that that

2225
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 1: play has become iconic, not because of the effort you

2226
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: put forth, but because of the moment that had happened

2227
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:15,360
Speaker 1: when it was a hopeless cause and you just refused

2228
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: to give up. I tell people it was not me

2229
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: who because I always get congratulated I'm doing this him

2230
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 1: and you know all you know, all small white guys

2231
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 1: look alike, So I get they say, hey, congratulate, I

2232
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 1: really appreciate you running leon letdown. And I promised you

2233
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: years ago that I wouldn't never take credit for it,

2234
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: so which was a huge mistake. Yeah, but that that

2235
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: play continues to live in the hearts of every underdog

2236
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,080
Speaker 1: and every hopeless cause that you can think of. And

2237
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:47,880
Speaker 1: and even today you get asked about that play. Was

2238
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:51,120
Speaker 1: it thirty years later? How is that play still affecting

2239
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: you now? And how will it How do you use

2240
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 1: that to your advantage? Going forward as a head coach

2241
01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 1: of a Division three school. Well, first of all, I

2242
01:49:58,000 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 1: went to seven Pro Bowls too, and I was the

2243
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 1: MVP one. So I mean yeah, yeah, right, yeah, people

2244
01:50:03,280 --> 01:50:07,559
Speaker 1: really call you oh yeah really yeah? Oh absolutely do they?

2245
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Oh I never knew that. Oh it happens

2246
01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:12,760
Speaker 1: all the time. All right, Then I don't feel so then,

2247
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,240
Speaker 1: all right, I don't feel so bad about not taking

2248
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 1: credit for the leon Lett play. Then, hey, and I

2249
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,400
Speaker 1: take credit of seven Pro Bowls and MVP two. You

2250
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 1: can you'd be darn sure of that. Hey, I never

2251
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: take credit for the beat for the leon Lett play.

2252
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,840
Speaker 1: It gives me more pleasure to correct them than it

2253
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:30,599
Speaker 1: does to take credit for pain speaking engagements. He will

2254
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 1: accept because he chased out, that's true. But to answer

2255
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: your question, I mean that's a great question. I mean,

2256
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 1: here we are about twenty five years later, and we

2257
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: still talk about it, right, And I get letters every day,

2258
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: literally every day, come through the House of Speed or

2259
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:48,080
Speaker 1: my home U saying something about that play. And this

2260
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 1: is why it was so impactful. First of all, the

2261
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: inside story is this. An hour before that game, I

2262
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 1: went out as a beautiful day in Pasadena, as you

2263
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: well remember, and I was just praying at the fifty

2264
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 1: yard line and I was just praying, Lord, let me

2265
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 1: glorify your name today more than mine. And I'm minute.

2266
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: I mean, from the bottom of the heart, that's what

2267
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to accomplish that day. And I was thinking, seriously,

2268
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:07,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna make a JJ Jefferson one hand a

2269
01:51:07,800 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: stab catching the corner of the end zone to win

2270
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:11,000
Speaker 1: the game. I mean, I really great. I was like

2271
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 1: on cloud nine, you know, but no, God gave me

2272
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 1: Leon latt Okay. At the moment, I never thought anything

2273
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,320
Speaker 1: of it. But as I stand on stages now, it's

2274
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: it's so powerful because of this, because everybody that's got

2275
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 1: eyes on me in the audience can look at me

2276
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 1: and say, gosh, if I would have. If I'm talking

2277
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 1: about that play that I did win the game, they say, oh, yeah,

2278
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 1: great play. But they can't really relate to that. I mean,

2279
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 1: that happens to a few guys ever, you know, but

2280
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 1: everybody can relate to never given up. I don't care

2281
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: if it's your relationships, so with who you married to,

2282
01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:46,280
Speaker 1: or your kids, or your job or whatever it is. Everybody.

2283
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 1: Everybody has a moment in their life or several that

2284
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 1: they just want to throw him the towel, and you can't,

2285
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:54,320
Speaker 1: You just can't. You just got to move forward. And

2286
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,679
Speaker 1: so that's the message. And I probably still do gosh,

2287
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: thirty events, forty events a year. That gives me the

2288
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 1: opportunity to speak on that, guys. And I gotta tell you,

2289
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 1: I would much rather have the leon Lett play said

2290
01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 1: that we lost. But I'd much rather have that play

2291
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 1: in my life than if I would have won the

2292
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And I know there's a lot of Bills

2293
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,200
Speaker 1: fans out there saying, are you kidding me? Yeah, it's

2294
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 1: easy for you to say now that you won one

2295
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:20,720
Speaker 1: with Green Bay. Yeah, so let's be clear. But but

2296
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,680
Speaker 1: you're right. I am. I'm really happy about it. And

2297
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you all of us here you know this.

2298
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:29,600
Speaker 1: We've all congratulated you multiple times on actually being the

2299
01:52:29,720 --> 01:52:32,160
Speaker 1: first guy to ever go to six Super bowls. Um.

2300
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 1: I thought that was it was great and that that

2301
01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,360
Speaker 1: you that you got a ring and uh uh, and

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01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: it was it was a testament that not giving up

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01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 1: in your career and and and all that goes with it.

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01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: And most people don't know this is that when that

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01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,320
Speaker 1: moment happened and I'm staying in the field as a

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01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 1: Green Bay packer, and I'm looking at the clock, last test,

2307
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 1: ten seconds clicking off, and I know I'm gonna be

2308
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: a winner. And when I got the ball, and I

2309
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 1: talked to Brett and he said, yeah, you know, you

2310
01:52:57,720 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: got the ball in all that jazz, you know. And

2311
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm walking to my wife and my kids and giving

2312
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: them the ball, and I'm thinking to myself, why me?

2313
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I really had feelings of guilt that why

2314
01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: not Sevy, why not mar why not Ralph? I mean,

2315
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 1: why not the fans? And why not John Murphy? I

2316
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:17,560
Speaker 1: mean why not everybody? You know? Why me? And I

2317
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 1: wish I wish all you guys could have experienced that

2318
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 1: with me, because that what we had in Buffalo, as

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01:53:23,240 --> 01:53:25,679
Speaker 1: you know, was family, and I wish all my family

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01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: could have been there on that day. Wow, That's that's

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01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:30,519
Speaker 1: pretty powerful stuff. Then I'll tell you what I get

2322
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 1: the feeling that at a royal university is in good hands.

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01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:35,240
Speaker 1: You got some recruiting to do. Tell me about your conference.

2324
01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 1: You got a couple of Concordias, you got what Benedictine,

2325
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:40,519
Speaker 1: who do you go up against? Who are you recruiting against?

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01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 1: These days. Well we're recruiting. We got two powerhouses in

2327
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,720
Speaker 1: our backyard, and we Waken College as a powerhouse. North

2328
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:50,439
Speaker 1: Central now is a powerhouse. But I told these kids,

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01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean, just like I stood in front of those

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01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,479
Speaker 1: Royal Christian athletes in two thousand and four, I said

2331
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 1: the same thing to these kids in my first meeting

2332
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,800
Speaker 1: with them. You know, and I said, listen, we got

2333
01:54:00,840 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 1: one goal. It ain't to win the conference title, which

2334
01:54:03,680 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 1: they've never done. It's not to be five hundred, it's

2335
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 1: not to do it's to win the national title Mount Union, Whitewater.

2336
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,880
Speaker 1: I don't care. I said our goal. And I used

2337
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 1: to quote from Vince Lombardi, which I'm a firm believer

2338
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: in this quote. It's quote is is watch your thoughts,

2339
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 1: they become your beliefs. Watch your beliefs because they come

2340
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 1: become your words. Watch your words because they become your actions.

2341
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,920
Speaker 1: Watch your actions because they become your habits. Watch your

2342
01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: habits because they then become your character. And for me,

2343
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 1: that speaks volumes. So I want them speaking it, eating it,

2344
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 1: talking it, training to it, everything to it, practice to it,

2345
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:48,160
Speaker 1: because if you don't, it's never gonna happen. This guy

2346
01:54:48,320 --> 01:54:51,280
Speaker 1: was born to coach Steve. It's too bad too. He's

2347
01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: a really good dude. It's a really really good dude.

2348
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,280
Speaker 1: And he's nice. You know, he's going to be a coach.

2349
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: And we appreciate you spending some minutes with us here

2350
01:54:59,200 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 1: today radulations on the appointment at Aurora, and we'll stay

2351
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,880
Speaker 1: in touch, thank you very much, any anytime, all right, babes,

2352
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: talk to you all right. Don Bebe, the brand new

2353
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 1: head coach at Aurora University in Illinois, takes over after

2354
01:55:11,560 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: what he say, ten years at Aurora Christian High School,

2355
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,960
Speaker 1: going to on the subway fresh State Highline presented by

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01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: Subway Restaurants, proud to be locally owned and operated pro'ball.

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01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 1: Be honest, I've interviewed down Bbe probably dozens, if not

2358
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: hundreds of times. I've never heard of more eloquent and

2359
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 1: more expressive than he just was. That was amazing, the

2360
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 1: stuff he was saying about finally winning the Super Bowl

2361
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,200
Speaker 1: with Green Bay. About what are you going to tell

2362
01:55:33,280 --> 01:55:35,200
Speaker 1: his kids at Aurora? You knew that part of him.

2363
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 1: I've never really heard a head. Yeah, he's he's bunch.

2364
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 1: As it pains me to say, he's head coaching materials.

2365
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:46,160
Speaker 1: Somebody who's killing I know Frank too. Yeah, all those guys.

2366
01:55:46,200 --> 01:55:49,360
Speaker 1: Pete Metzlaur is an offensive line coach of NFL Quality,

2367
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:53,680
Speaker 1: although he's kind of semi retired now. Listen, coaching is

2368
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 1: who who you are when you're a coach. It's who

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01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: you are. It's not what you do. It's not a career,

2370
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 1: it's not a job for anything you get hay to

2371
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,240
Speaker 1: do it, I get it, but it's who you are.

2372
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,120
Speaker 1: Those guys never stopped coaching. It's it's you know, like

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01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,320
Speaker 1: Don said, he's loving it. He can't. I mean, they

2374
01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:09,240
Speaker 1: just loves it. He didn't want to do anything else.

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01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,320
Speaker 1: I mean, that is your life. You don't need you

2376
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 1: don't need a life away from your work. Your work

2377
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:15,400
Speaker 1: is your life because you love it so much. And

2378
01:56:15,480 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 1: that's what coaching does for guys. I spoke to Alex

2379
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: van Pelt this last week and he's quarterback coach at

2380
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: Cincinnati with with Andy Dalton. Jim Haslett is the linebackers

2381
01:56:25,920 --> 01:56:28,600
Speaker 1: coach for the Cincinnati Bengals. All these guys that get

2382
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,560
Speaker 1: into that, it's because, um, not only were they great

2383
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: teammates and great players, but they want to help other guys.

2384
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: Become those same things. And it's uh and I'm I

2385
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:41,800
Speaker 1: applaud Don for for pursuing it. He's very good at it,

2386
01:56:41,920 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: obviously you can tell from his track record in the

2387
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:46,760
Speaker 1: high school level. And uh, and other guys get it,

2388
01:56:46,800 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 1: you like even Marv Leeve, he recognize that. And don

2389
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,480
Speaker 1: you know that he offering him a job here in Buffalo.

2390
01:56:51,600 --> 01:56:53,680
Speaker 1: So it was it is who it is, who these

2391
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,520
Speaker 1: guys are. They're good at it, it's their life and

2392
01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 1: and uh, you know he's got it. It's it's easy

2393
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 1: to cheer for guys like Beeb's absolutely Yeah, thanks to

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01:57:01,240 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: Don Babe for joining us. When we come back, we'll

2395
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: have NFL true or False. We'll also talk a little

2396
01:57:04,960 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 1: bit more about the Bills on offense, what you're looking

2397
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,120
Speaker 1: to see in the final five games. Come on back

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo

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01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. It is One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive.

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01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 1: John Murphy alongside Steve Tasker. Now, you know, we talk.

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01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 1: We get around a lot about how the best part

2402
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:33,440
Speaker 1: of the show is the commercial breaks when we talk

2403
01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 1: about stuff, and many times it is sometimes the stuff

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01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,120
Speaker 1: that we can't talk about in the airboot we're talking

2405
01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:41,200
Speaker 1: about baby during the last commercial break, and I said

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01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 1: to Steve, innocent, honest question. I said, Steve, who is

2407
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,520
Speaker 1: responsible for bringing BB here? Think about a second round pick?

2408
01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: They didn't have a first nineteen eighty nine did not

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01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: have a first round pick. Second round pick from Shadrin

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01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: State in Nebraska. And I remember that draft and people

2411
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 1: thinking what the heck? Who? Obviously it was Pauline and

2412
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 1: mar But tell the story, and I ask you who

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01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: really was responsible for getting that guy as the Bill's

2414
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:04,840
Speaker 1: first pick. This is the way I remember it because

2415
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,080
Speaker 1: we heard the story. You know. Obviously, subsequently, in years

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01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:09,720
Speaker 1: that followed Nick Nikolau, who's the wide receiver coach, and

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01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: subsequently I think it was the first pick of the

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01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: second round, Bill's first check in the driver. I don't know,

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01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 1: I can't rememb maybe he's I don't know, anyway, third

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01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 1: round pick. And so Bieb's Nick Nikolau went to Shadrin

2421
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: Stay he was the receiver's coach, and he you know,

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01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: there's all kinds of chicanery that goes on with these

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01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: workouts that people go out there, Like if the guy says,

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01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 1: and you know he's gonna run a forty yard dashed

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01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: for you while the team is measured out thirty eight

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01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 1: yards instead of forty for you to run the forty

2427
01:58:42,160 --> 01:58:43,800
Speaker 1: yard dad, and they make it look like it's forty

2428
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: yard you know, all that stuff. You know, it's all

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01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 1: a lot of little bit of gamesmanship because there's a

2430
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: lot of money at stake, a lot of reputations at stake,

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01:58:50,280 --> 01:58:53,880
Speaker 1: and they want their guys to get drafted. Nick would

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01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,600
Speaker 1: go out and he'd carried his own tape measure, so

2433
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 1: he'd put a stake in the ground, hold them tape

2434
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:01,560
Speaker 1: measure down him back up, you know, forty yards and

2435
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 1: put the thing down, so he knew it was forty

2436
01:59:04,000 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: yards that the guy was running. So I guess Bibs

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01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:11,480
Speaker 1: snaps off like a three three six for Nick. Four

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01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 1: three six at four three six, forty yard dash for

2439
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 1: Nick Nikolau. And he talks to him and stuff, and

2440
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:20,920
Speaker 1: and he's in there talking. But before he even gets

2441
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: to meet him, he's in talking to the head coach.

2442
01:59:22,440 --> 01:59:24,240
Speaker 1: He says, this guy really that fast. Tell me about him.

2443
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:25,840
Speaker 1: He The guy goes, yeah, he's a good, great kid,

2444
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 1: great leader, does all this stuff right, Dada da da,

2445
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:30,280
Speaker 1: And he'll probably run in the mid four threes for you,

2446
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 1: and Nick goes, okay, so and Bieb's coming. That's him

2447
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 1: right over there and Nick and Nick couldn't because don

2448
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 1: he'll tell you that he didn't pass the eye test.

2449
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 1: Rights a little bit like me. You know, we're a

2450
01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 1: little small, undersized guys. And so he gets him out there,

2451
01:59:44,680 --> 01:59:47,839
Speaker 1: works him out, throws him the football, you know, whatever,

2452
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:50,360
Speaker 1: does the whole workout, and then the draft day comes around.

2453
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:54,280
Speaker 1: It's the third round and they call Nick in the office.

2454
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 1: Everybody has to stay in the building during the draft

2455
01:59:56,360 --> 01:59:58,040
Speaker 1: in case they do it, and especially the guys who

2456
01:59:58,080 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 1: have looked at God had their eyes on the guy.

2457
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,280
Speaker 1: So they call and go, hey, what about this bebe

2458
02:00:02,400 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 1: kid in the third round? And Nick Nikolaus said, if

2459
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:08,640
Speaker 1: you don't draft him, you're crazy. And of course, you know,

2460
02:00:08,760 --> 02:00:12,400
Speaker 1: Bebes shows up and he cannot run anybody in the league,

2461
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 1: certain ADBs, and that's just the kind of guy the

2462
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:18,080
Speaker 1: Bills were looking for. Later subsequently, his rookie year, they

2463
02:00:18,120 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 1: bring into James Lofton, So we have James Lofton in

2464
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,920
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Comes in Andre Reid, who's in

2465
02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:26,960
Speaker 1: the midst and his prime going to the Hall of fame,

2466
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: and then Beebes gets thrown into that as well. We

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02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:33,800
Speaker 1: could this just then speed is the difference. And we

2468
02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:40,200
Speaker 1: had James Lofton, who's Olympic Olympic athlete sprinter, Don beebe

2469
02:00:40,680 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 1: and the great the prototypical greatest slot receiver of all

2470
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:46,640
Speaker 1: time and Andre Reid. So yeah, all of a sudden,

2471
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:48,880
Speaker 1: we're pretty good. Nikola had a big role there. He

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02:00:48,960 --> 02:00:51,840
Speaker 1: did god rest is so he was the greatest individual

2473
02:00:52,640 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 1: position coach I ever had, or whoever even laid eyes

2474
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 1: on he was. He was in a class by himself.

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02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 1: He was the greatest teacher I have ever come across.

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02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 1: You know, it's I'm glad to hear you say that,

2477
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: and and I've heard others from your Europe say that

2478
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:08,080
Speaker 1: about named Nikolau, who I think in the public's mind.

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02:01:08,160 --> 02:01:11,040
Speaker 1: You know why people know Nick Nikolau, Yeah, because he'd fight.

2480
02:01:12,480 --> 02:01:14,240
Speaker 1: But I don't think people had an appreciation for how

2481
02:01:14,320 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: good a coach, how talented a coach he was. But

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02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,720
Speaker 1: he was one of the great teachers I've ever come across,

2483
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:22,000
Speaker 1: in any any ray, shape or form. I've got a

2484
02:01:22,200 --> 02:01:25,480
Speaker 1: million stories about how you affected me and the guys

2485
02:01:25,520 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 1: on that team and the difference he made for the

2486
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 1: guys in our room, Andre Reid, James Loft and Steve

2487
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 1: Task or Tom Biebe the rest of the guys you know. Um,

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02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about him, and he's since passed away,

2489
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: but he was a difference maker for this franchise and

2490
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,120
Speaker 1: then he became when Ted marcher Broder left here, he

2491
02:01:43,280 --> 02:01:46,040
Speaker 1: took Nick with him as his offensive coordinator to Indianapolis. Right,

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02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: good story and great story about Bobe again. Thanks to

2493
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 1: Don Biebe for draining Yes, we wish him well. Hey,

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02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 1: our twitter poll today five it's not a pole. Five

2495
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:56,240
Speaker 1: games left in the Bill's a regular season? What else?

2496
02:01:56,360 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: What more do you need to see from Josh Allen

2497
02:01:58,240 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 1: and the offense? And why give us a call? We'll

2498
02:02:00,440 --> 02:02:03,240
Speaker 1: discuss with you at eighth three five fifty toll free

2499
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:06,280
Speaker 1: from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 1: five fifty or tweet in your response, will read it

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02:02:08,760 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: on the air to the tweet sheet. We go from

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02:02:10,360 --> 02:02:14,200
Speaker 1: Buffalo Love. I need to see Josh Allen improve on

2503
02:02:14,360 --> 02:02:17,680
Speaker 1: his accuracy in passing the run. Offense needs to improve

2504
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 1: with blocking and shady not dancing around and just hitting

2505
02:02:20,160 --> 02:02:22,800
Speaker 1: the halls. Lastly, day Bole mixing up the pass and

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02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:25,400
Speaker 1: run more. Well, that's pretty much a complete overhaull of

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Speaker 1: what they're doing offensively, shady dancing around and not hitting holes.

2508
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 1: That's a common refrain. Yeah, I think I think a

2509
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:32,800
Speaker 1: little bit di pass. I think it's I think he's

2510
02:02:32,840 --> 02:02:35,040
Speaker 1: trying to overcompensate for an offensive line that's not the

2511
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:37,200
Speaker 1: same as it was a year ago. It doesn't look

2512
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 1: the same to him, and rightfully, so I don't think

2513
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, I think you can say what you want.

2514
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:44,760
Speaker 1: I think we all know they've shuffled their offensive line around.

2515
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,520
Speaker 1: Last week, John Miller came out, Ryan Groy had to

2516
02:02:47,560 --> 02:02:49,800
Speaker 1: go in and get plugged in, played the entire a

2517
02:02:50,120 --> 02:02:52,040
Speaker 1: good chunk of the last part of the game, and

2518
02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:55,800
Speaker 1: there have been times they've struggled. Now, I think this

2519
02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 1: last week I only seeing a question. The offensive line's

2520
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 1: playing a better way, better than it did in the

2521
02:03:01,360 --> 02:03:03,160
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. But this last week they were

2522
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 1: up against a dynamically talented front four and front seven

2523
02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:10,080
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. So there's a little bit of a like

2524
02:03:10,360 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 1: kind of a shrugging your shoulders nodt of your head that, yeah,

2525
02:03:13,600 --> 02:03:15,480
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is pretty good. So maybe that had something to

2526
02:03:15,560 --> 02:03:18,480
Speaker 1: do with the ineffectiveness of the run game, but nevertheless

2527
02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:21,720
Speaker 1: it's been consistently underpower from what we're used to. They

2528
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,920
Speaker 1: need more, they need more, they nick tweetson just need

2529
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 1: to see more of the same from Josh Allen. Offense

2530
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:31,040
Speaker 1: needs less flags, more disciplined wide receiver separation and effort

2531
02:03:31,480 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 1: for a growing rookie quarterback. Offensive coordinator needs to get

2532
02:03:34,480 --> 02:03:37,280
Speaker 1: Shady and Ivory more involved. Maybe screen game take the

2533
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,400
Speaker 1: pressure off Allen. One thing about Ivory, A couple of

2534
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 1: people have said, you know, why didn't they use them

2535
02:03:41,200 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 1: down near the goal line? When they use them more.

2536
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:44,480
Speaker 1: I do think there was a little bit of an

2537
02:03:44,520 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 1: attempt last Sunday to take it easy on Chris Ivory

2538
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:49,880
Speaker 1: coming back from the shoulder injury, and maybe there's a

2539
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 1: bigger role for him to play in the remaining five weeks.

2540
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 1: But the number one priority the run game, I believe

2541
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 1: should be and probably is getting Lashaw McCoy going. And

2542
02:03:57,560 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 1: that's a lot of that happens up front with what

2543
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:01,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line does. Do you agree, Yeah? I agree,

2544
02:04:02,160 --> 02:04:05,120
Speaker 1: And there's a lot to be done offensively for this team.

2545
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:09,920
Speaker 1: The defense has been really good. Um they although you

2546
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:12,000
Speaker 1: know they gave up two hundred yards rushing this last week.

2547
02:04:12,080 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: They they did it in a win that doesn't go unnoticed,

2548
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:20,600
Speaker 1: and that doesn't excuse him for uh, for the way

2549
02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 1: the game went on their run defense. But still, this

2550
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:26,560
Speaker 1: is a defense that had got timely turnovers at the

2551
02:04:26,680 --> 02:04:29,240
Speaker 1: right time and um and helped the team win. Uh.

2552
02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: And there's still a top five defense, so it most

2553
02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 1: of the work that's there to be done is offensively.

2554
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: And you know that's why we that's why we phrased

2555
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 1: the question the way we did. It's not all about

2556
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. We'd all love to see Josh having a

2557
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:47,200
Speaker 1: lot more talent around him, a lot more production around him.

2558
02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 1: But I think he's the kind of guy. I think

2559
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:53,560
Speaker 1: we've seen it. I think he saw it this last week.

2560
02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 1: He's the kind of guy I think that he was

2561
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,600
Speaker 1: this way in Wyoming. In fact, all the stuff coming

2562
02:04:58,640 --> 02:05:00,200
Speaker 1: out of Wyoming, this was kind of the way it was.

2563
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 1: And Wyoming, he carried that team offensively on his back.

2564
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:06,600
Speaker 1: That's why he didn't have a really high completion percentage.

2565
02:05:06,600 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: He didn't have really great receivers there. They were asking

2566
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 1: him to make throws that they couldn't even ask another

2567
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: guy on their team to make let alone put it

2568
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:17,120
Speaker 1: in a game plan. You see some games where he

2569
02:05:17,320 --> 02:05:20,440
Speaker 1: won for Wyoming by keeping a play alive, keeping a

2570
02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: play alive, and then bowling into the end zone for

2571
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 1: the winning touchdown. You saw it a lot at Wyoming.

2572
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:28,280
Speaker 1: This is the kind of offense he's been Houston running,

2573
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 1: and unfortunately they haven't been able to give him enough

2574
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,280
Speaker 1: around him to take a little bit better that load off.

2575
02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:35,120
Speaker 1: But I think he's used to it, and I think

2576
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 1: he's up to it for the time being. You know

2577
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:40,440
Speaker 1: what I like about our responses from that we've received

2578
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:43,080
Speaker 1: today on the phone and on Twitter is the acknowledgement

2579
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:45,240
Speaker 1: I think by responding and the way people have responded

2580
02:05:45,280 --> 02:05:48,240
Speaker 1: Bills fans that this season, the acknowledgement of the season's

2581
02:05:48,280 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 1: not over and there's still a lot to play for here.

2582
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:51,560
Speaker 1: I believe that too, and I was saying that going

2583
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 1: into last week the six to last game. Now we're

2584
02:05:54,400 --> 02:05:56,800
Speaker 1: in the five games left to play territory, and I

2585
02:05:56,880 --> 02:05:59,600
Speaker 1: still think because of Josh and because of the struggles

2586
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 1: for the first half of the season on the offensive

2587
02:06:01,840 --> 02:06:03,960
Speaker 1: side of the ball, people are looking for more from

2588
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 1: this team, regardless of whether there's a playoff perthday. Oh oh,

2589
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: you think that's from Joe's Joe ZANGI let's finish nine

2590
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,600
Speaker 1: to seven to make the playoffs. Schedule says we can pass,

2591
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:14,880
Speaker 1: aren't invisible? And then the other argument there you go,

2592
02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 1: there's still that out you think that, Yeah, there's some

2593
02:06:16,760 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 1: people who haven't given up on the season. Joe's one

2594
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: of them, and MJ keep working to get keep working,

2595
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,240
Speaker 1: getting better, more consistent. I'd love to see a three

2596
02:06:23,320 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 1: hundred yard passing game in a win too, That's that

2597
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:29,000
Speaker 1: would be a benchmark that's been well, they had one

2598
02:06:29,080 --> 02:06:31,200
Speaker 1: last year and I think just one in Tyrod Taylor's

2599
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: entire three year tenure. One three hundred yard passing game.

2600
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:35,960
Speaker 1: And look, you don't go into game saying we're gonna

2601
02:06:35,960 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 1: throw for three hundred here, you're going to games saying

2602
02:06:37,960 --> 02:06:40,480
Speaker 1: we're trying to win and be successful. But three hundred

2603
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:42,120
Speaker 1: yard passing games is sort of a coin of the

2604
02:06:42,160 --> 02:06:43,800
Speaker 1: realm in the NFL. Now, you need to see him

2605
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:45,760
Speaker 1: on a regular basis if you're going to be long

2606
02:06:45,920 --> 02:06:49,360
Speaker 1: term and deeply successful in the playoffs. Let's don't you

2607
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 1: think phone lines open eight oh three, five fifty toll

2608
02:06:51,920 --> 02:06:54,760
Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

2609
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 1: What more you need to see from Josh Allen in

2610
02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,800
Speaker 1: the Buffalo offense? All Right? You ready for true and falls? Okay,

2611
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 1: most fun we have every day and not really NFL Truefols.

2612
02:07:04,760 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 1: NFL True Repulse is brought to you by Yancey's, Fancy

2613
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:10,720
Speaker 1: New York's artists and cheese. Here we go, Houston Texans one.

2614
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: Last night they made Tennessee look bad in doing it.

2615
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: So the Texans are the NFL's hottest team. Hello, anybody

2616
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: here in the New Orleans Saints. They've won ten in

2617
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:23,680
Speaker 1: a row, Texans of one or the Houston Texans of

2618
02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 1: one eight in a row. The Saints of the NFL's

2619
02:07:25,720 --> 02:07:27,800
Speaker 1: hottest team, the Saints of the NFL's best team. Yeah,

2620
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:30,160
Speaker 1: the Saints of the team to beat this year. And

2621
02:07:30,240 --> 02:07:32,160
Speaker 1: you can say what you want about Kansas City in LA.

2622
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 1: They're both chasing those guys, and I don't think, I

2623
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:37,320
Speaker 1: don't know that anybody in the NFC's gonna catch them.

2624
02:07:37,360 --> 02:07:39,640
Speaker 1: And certainly the Texans are good, don't quit. Don't get

2625
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 1: me wrong. They put together a great stretch. But no,

2626
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I think the Saints of

2627
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 1: the team to beat, and they're the hottest ones, all right,

2628
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 1: Part two of NFL True and False. This, I think

2629
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:52,600
Speaker 1: is kind of an interesting question. It probably deserves more

2630
02:07:52,640 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 1: than the ninety seconds we're gonna give it right here.

2631
02:07:56,560 --> 02:08:00,320
Speaker 1: True and False, Part two. NFL championship windows are shorter

2632
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:03,560
Speaker 1: than ever. Think about it and think and the article

2633
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:05,920
Speaker 1: it came up in the Ringer and they cite the

2634
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars clearly. Now with the three and eight record,

2635
02:08:09,160 --> 02:08:11,760
Speaker 1: they are out of contention this year. The Jacksonville Jaguars

2636
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: and disarray. It would seem with coaches, coordinators being fired

2637
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:17,720
Speaker 1: in quarterback switches. There were many people. I was not

2638
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 1: one of them. You were not either. I don't believe

2639
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:24,080
Speaker 1: many people thought the Jaguars were championship caliber contenders going

2640
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:27,240
Speaker 1: into this year based on their long tenure in the

2641
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:30,440
Speaker 1: playoffs last year. Right, they're deep running the playoffs because

2642
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:34,640
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars is the number one example. I guess

2643
02:08:34,680 --> 02:08:38,040
Speaker 1: our championship windows shorter than ever. I gotta think about this.

2644
02:08:38,200 --> 02:08:39,360
Speaker 1: Do you want to go first? I'm not ready to

2645
02:08:39,360 --> 02:08:42,960
Speaker 1: say true or false. Yet I'm gonna say false. I

2646
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 1: think there's no reason to think they're any shorter or

2647
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 1: longer than they have been in the past. It depends

2648
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:49,120
Speaker 1: on the players you get in and the structure of

2649
02:08:49,160 --> 02:08:52,680
Speaker 1: the contracts, how you line it up. Certainly, the Seattle

2650
02:08:52,760 --> 02:08:55,680
Speaker 1: Seahawks put together a nice run and they're starting to

2651
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:58,320
Speaker 1: win and kind of hang in the playoff race now

2652
02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:00,080
Speaker 1: in a completely different way than they did when they

2653
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,520
Speaker 1: had the legion of booms. So no, the windows are

2654
02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:05,920
Speaker 1: I think the same, They're just done a little bit

2655
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:08,080
Speaker 1: differently than they have been in decades past. I think

2656
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 1: the windows have always been short, you know, three years

2657
02:09:11,080 --> 02:09:13,320
Speaker 1: hard to keep them together. Yeah, And in the Jaguars case,

2658
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 1: if you want to use that as an example of

2659
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:18,920
Speaker 1: championship windows being shorter than ever, that's a bad premise.

2660
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 1: Jaguars were not that good last year on offensive particular.

2661
02:09:22,040 --> 02:09:23,960
Speaker 1: We knew that. We saw that, and they beat the

2662
02:09:24,000 --> 02:09:27,640
Speaker 1: Bills ten to three in a wildcard playoff game ten points. Yes,

2663
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:29,240
Speaker 1: it went on to play well down the stretch. And

2664
02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:32,360
Speaker 1: the Bills weren't a complete football team. They were vastly

2665
02:09:32,480 --> 02:09:34,880
Speaker 1: flawed last year, and they almost got to the Division

2666
02:09:34,960 --> 02:09:38,600
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. No, I just barely scraping to

2667
02:09:38,680 --> 02:09:41,000
Speaker 1: get in. So No, the Jackson. That's I agree. I

2668
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:45,120
Speaker 1: Jonville was very overestimated this year coming in, and that

2669
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:48,720
Speaker 1: comes from people back to who did June July? Thank you?

2670
02:09:48,920 --> 02:09:51,920
Speaker 1: Looking for the next next big thing? No false, I'm

2671
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 1: gonna go Faulse so not shorter than ever finally NFL

2672
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:57,160
Speaker 1: two or false Baker Mayfield is right to rip former

2673
02:09:57,320 --> 02:09:59,440
Speaker 1: head coach Hugh Jackson. I'm interested to hear what you

2674
02:09:59,480 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 1: have to say about this. Um. I haven't really thought

2675
02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 1: it through too much. Um did he really rip him?

2676
02:10:05,960 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 1: What did he do well? Whatever? Rip him or not?

2677
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 1: What is he wrong to criticize or in any way,

2678
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 1: shape or form. You know he's not, you know, dreadfully wrong.

2679
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:17,240
Speaker 1: But it's look at the NFL. Guys are gonna move around, Baker,

2680
02:10:17,640 --> 02:10:19,720
Speaker 1: just justin people are gonna move your teammates. Some of

2681
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:21,760
Speaker 1: the guys who are your teammates right now are gonna

2682
02:10:21,760 --> 02:10:24,839
Speaker 1: be playing against you and looking to sack you next year. Probably.

2683
02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:27,360
Speaker 1: So was he right to rip former coach Hugh Jackson?

2684
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 1: I disagree. I don't know if he ripped him. He

2685
02:10:29,840 --> 02:10:31,800
Speaker 1: didn't appear to be happy about it, But I would

2686
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 1: say false, he was not right. That's how do you

2687
02:10:34,080 --> 02:10:36,240
Speaker 1: Here's where I saw it, and I and I get it. Hey,

2688
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:39,320
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson was fired. He didn't like voluntarily leave. That's right.

2689
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,080
Speaker 1: He took the job with Marvin Lewis because Marvin Lewison

2690
02:10:42,200 --> 02:10:47,040
Speaker 1: and Hugh Jackson are very close friends. And that's great. Um.

2691
02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:51,560
Speaker 1: Was he wrong to rip Hugh Jackson for leaving. Absolutely not.

2692
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:55,880
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield doesn't care about Hugh Jackson. He cares about

2693
02:10:55,920 --> 02:10:58,600
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. He was he was drafted as a

2694
02:10:58,720 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 1: number one overall pick as a quarterback, and he's leading

2695
02:11:02,040 --> 02:11:04,400
Speaker 1: the Browns and he did so last week and a

2696
02:11:04,600 --> 02:11:09,400
Speaker 1: win against the Cincinnati Bengals. You want, you want Baker

2697
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 1: Mayfield to kick Hugh Jackson in the mouth and not

2698
02:11:15,200 --> 02:11:19,240
Speaker 1: let up on his team. Yeah, it's his team. They're

2699
02:11:19,320 --> 02:11:22,080
Speaker 1: changing the culture. The Browns are not to be trifled

2700
02:11:22,120 --> 02:11:24,640
Speaker 1: with anymore. They're a new team, a different team. Hugh

2701
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:27,080
Speaker 1: Jackson couldn't get it done. We are a better rid

2702
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 1: of him. Let's go. That's that's Baker Mayfield being a

2703
02:11:30,960 --> 02:11:34,080
Speaker 1: leader to me. And that's It's not about Hugh Jackson anymore.

2704
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:37,560
Speaker 1: It's about Baker and I think he's Are we talking

2705
02:11:37,600 --> 02:11:39,720
Speaker 1: about what did he do? Did he say something? Here's

2706
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 1: the thing. It's look, go out and beat him. He

2707
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:44,240
Speaker 1: didn't crush him. I know that's great, and if you're

2708
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:47,320
Speaker 1: motivated by Hugh Jackson leaving, that's great too. But also,

2709
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:49,040
Speaker 1: as I said, get used to the fact that in

2710
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 1: the NFL people move around some of your teammates. This

2711
02:11:51,480 --> 02:11:53,240
Speaker 1: year we'll be playing against you. Listen, I'm not talking

2712
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:56,360
Speaker 1: about the reality of the NFL. We're talking about Baker

2713
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 1: making a statement to his own team and he using

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Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson's departure to do it, and his defection to

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Speaker 1: the Bengals whatever you want to call it, the rehiring

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Speaker 1: or the fire whatever, him using that as a way

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Speaker 1: to communicate to his team like, hey, we're not settling anymore,

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Speaker 1: let's go. I thought it was a brilliant and I

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Speaker 1: think it was great, and I think so I'm saying, No,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't out a listed He just said, listen, he's there.

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Speaker 1: He went to a team that we played twice a year,

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Speaker 1: and that's it. I don't Is that a ripping No,

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Speaker 1: it's not. No, it's not. Got a bad question there

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Speaker 1: in NFL threw false and false brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Yancey's fancy new York's artists and cheese. Steve and I

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Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live from One Bills Drive

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Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Time. Now for what have we

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Speaker 1: or the Buffalo Bills. What are we Peter King joined

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Speaker 1: us from Football Morning in America from NBC Sports and

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk. Peter King said there's nothing like the

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Speaker 1: home crowd at New air Field, and he thinks that

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Speaker 1: played a role in Buffalo's victory on Sunday against Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: To me, with all due respect to Seattle, the home

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Speaker 1: field advantage in Buffalo is really worth something because you know,

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Speaker 1: in reality, what really are the Bills playing for other

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Speaker 1: than their own jobs? Okay, and that is a motivational factor,

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Speaker 1: but that game was really really important to these guys.

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Speaker 1: And one of the reasons it's important is because it's

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Speaker 1: so important to those fans and the noise they make

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Speaker 1: and the dedication they show. And I just and you

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Speaker 1: know what, if you're a player there the atmosphere. You

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Speaker 1: just have to feel it. Peter King from earlier in

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Speaker 1: the show, Steve, have fun in Hamilton tonight. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: come in singing dancing around. Yeah, probably, I can't see it. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Please can probably stay out late too, right you probably will? Hey,

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our production crew George Blast, Jeff Colton, Like,

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Speaker 1: Thomas hanald Or, Kelly Rude, Jjjarito, Kevin Cartis, James robel Our,

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Speaker 1: producer Jay Harrisy Tomorrow at noon one Bills Live on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio