1 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back. It's Tuesday morning. It's 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: February sixteenth, the year of r Lower twenty twenty one. 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Paton. This is the Late Kick Extra podcast. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: It is nine degrees as I record. Not in the 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 1: apartment that would be a record, but just outside here 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: in downtown Nashville, snow and ice all over the place. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: I haven't been outside since Sunday night. It's not ideal, 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: but hey, it could be a whole lot worse. I 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: know a lot of you guys are going through it 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: in the midwest. Texas, Oklahoma City is negative fourteen this morning. 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: And not that this is a breaking weather report by 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: any means, but that's a record that they said in 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: eighteen ninety nine. I said eighteen, not nineteen eighteen ninety nine. 14 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: So that's pre Bob Stoops, that's even pre Bud Wilkinson 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: out there. So keep it keep it warm, that's my vice. 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Keep it keep it warm. And it's been a time obviously, 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people going through a lot of things 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: they haven't been through before meteorologically speaking, and also a 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: lot of people going through things they haven't been through 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: in the world of college football. So We've got a 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: lot of healthy dosage to talk about regarding everything. Obviously, 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: since I've been stuck inside, I've had plenty of time 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: to be talking to you guys. So I got a 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: loaded mail bag this morning. Now I wanted to quickly 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: revisit something that I talked about on Late Cake Live 26 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Sunday night, kind of floated an idea out there. Normally, 27 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the way I do it is the less descriptive I 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: am when I float ideas, the more you guys are inquisitive. 29 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: And Sunday Night, what I said is I was gonna 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: use a benchmark. I was gonna do a little trial 31 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: run since last time I asked for one thousand and 32 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: five star reviews in the podcast. It happened. What I 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: thought was going to take a month happened in like 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: twenty four or forty eight hours. So I said, that's interesting, 35 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: tuck that little detail away, find out what you guys 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: are capable of. And it far exceeded my expectations. So 37 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: what I looked at is I said, all right, I 38 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: got an idea, let's attach a benchmark to it. Might 39 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: as well get something out of it, right, And so 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I was sitting at like I can't remember where it was. 41 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: It was just shy of thirteen thousand Twitter followers. Because see, 42 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: for a long time I didn't take too seriously. Only recently, 43 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: only since I've gotten here, have I really been serious 44 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: about Twitter. It's why I don't have some huge following 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: on there like a lot of other folks in our 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: business do. Well, maybe it's just because I'm not popular, 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: maybe I'm sitting all by myself at the lunch room table. 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: But the other reason that I like to tell myself 49 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: to keep myself confident, you know, keep the spirits up, 50 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: self esteem, et cetera, is I just I never really 51 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: took it seriously. Even when I was in news media 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: and it was company policy that you take it seriously, 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: I still didn't really take it seriously. So anyway, in 54 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: trying to build that audience up, I said, I got 55 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: an idea. Let me attach it to it. So I said, 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: get me to thirteen thousand. Next time we passed the 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: benchmark of an even one thousand, thirteen thousand coming up next, 58 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to do something. So I said it the 59 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: other night, give me to thirteen thousand. I got a 60 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: really really good, very extremely interactive and fun idea that 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: I want to debut and I'm gonna use you guys 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: to do it. So what I've been thinking is we 63 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: do this Late Kick Extra Mailbag podcast, which we're doing 64 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: this morning. About to get into it, I promise, just 65 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: gonna be about another minute. We do this all the time. 66 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: It's the most fun I have all week because I 67 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: don't have to Well, first off, it's the easiest thing 68 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: that I do all week because I don't have to 69 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: stack the show. I just take your questions and answer them. 70 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 1: But secondly, it's very interactive. You guys get into it. 71 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean we have questions come in by the hundreds 72 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: every week. It could be the thousands. I don't know, 73 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: because I mean, really, I don't want to count that high. 74 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: It's dangerous. That's a lot of brain power being used 75 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: for something that can be sort of estimated. So let's 76 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: estimated about seven hundred and fifty to one thousand. And 77 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: it's fun. So what I want to do is I 78 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: want to do more of it, but I also want 79 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: to get a video product out of it. So here's 80 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. What I'm thinking is when we get 81 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to thirteen thousand on Twitter and we're really close. I 82 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: had like one hundred and fifty new followers yesterday, so 83 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: we're really close when we get there. Here is my idea. 84 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: Didn't float this on the show the other night. This 85 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: is the first time I'm saying this because I had 86 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: to clear it with our people and make sure it's possible. 87 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: What I want to do is I want to take 88 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: about five to ten of you. I don't know who 89 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: it's going to be yet, I don't know what the 90 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: lottery system's going to look like, but I want to 91 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: take about five to ten of you. And instead of 92 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: doing just a normal mail bag episode of Late Kick Extra, 93 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: I want to do a full z zoom version of 94 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: it to where five to ten of you are there 95 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: and we record it, you know, live. We don't broadcast 96 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: it live, but we record it live. And so I 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: want to basically have a back and forth. Instead of 98 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: just having people submit questions via email, I just want 99 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: to sit there and have you toss them to me. 100 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: And by the way, it doesn't just have to be 101 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: you submit a question, you sit there and be quiet, 102 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: and I respond. There could be dialogue, there could be 103 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: back and forth. You could gang up on me. I 104 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: do control the mute and record options. So I will 105 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: not have myself looking how should I put this, I 106 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: will not allow myself to look more intellectually inferior or 107 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: vulnerable than I normally would. So you define what that 108 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: is for you, and we won't go beyond that. But 109 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I think it'd be really really fun because I've had 110 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: you guys ask before, and when I've done some zoom 111 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: consultations in the group setting in the past, I've thought 112 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: to myself, Man, I should just record this. It would 113 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: be illegal not letting these folks know, but it would 114 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: really really be good because I mean, some of the 115 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: stuff that's being discussed back and forth, it would make 116 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: for a really good show. Oh that's the idea. And 117 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: when we get past thirteen thousand followers on Twitter, which 118 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: could be like today or tomorrow, I don't know, just 119 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: get me there. We'll find out afterwards how we're going 120 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: to conduct this. But it's not something I'm going to 121 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: kick the can down the road a year on. We're 122 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: going to do it pretty quickly. So as of this morning, well, 123 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: we got to do a mailbag and I've got a 124 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: lot of really good submissions. So let's dive right in 125 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: the first question in the lin Kick Extra mail bag 126 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: this morning. Actually it comes to us courtesy of about 127 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: thirty seven different folks. It's a combination of this, How 128 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: in the world do you think Gus Malson's going to 129 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: do at UCF? How in the world do you think 130 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: Gus Malson wound up at UCF? What do you think 131 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: about this whole incestuous back and forth of Brian Harrison 132 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: used to be here and then Malson used to be there, 133 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: and now he's there in Malason's here? How does Josh 134 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: Hypel figure into all this? Like it's kind of this 135 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: rearranging of deck chairs and who won who lost? Well, 136 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: let me break this down. So it is very fascinating. 137 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: There's a dynamic in play right now. Is a big 138 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: question going around sort of in our industry. And I 139 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: saw some of you guys asking it yesterday to what's 140 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: the better job right now? Do Gus Malson secretly get 141 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: the best job out of those three the Tennessee Auburn, 142 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: Central Florida triangle right now? And I think the argument 143 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: could be made, Yes, it all depends on what your 144 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: criteria are. But I will tell you know, even if 145 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: you side with Auburn, Tennessee being superior jobs. Still, I'm 146 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: not saying programs, I'm saying jobs. Understand the difference there. 147 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: If you even side with those being superior jobs, I 148 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: think even you have to admit it's getting a little 149 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: close for comfort. I mean, this is a new age 150 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: and things have shrunk. The margins are a lot thinner. 151 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: When you can start to pay folks what some G 152 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: five programs can pay them. Now gets a little more interesting. Now. 153 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: The Malson situation is unique. So let me not go 154 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: down too many side roads. So let's think this out 155 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: loud here. Okay, let's first go with the question that 156 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: many asked about the job comparisons. Well, if you are 157 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: of the opinion that you want to go compete in 158 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: the highest levels of the sport, then yes, Auburn is 159 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: clearly a better job. If you care about tradition in history, 160 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Yes Auburn is clearly a better job. If you care 161 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: about overall facilities, even though I'd love to see Auburn 162 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: do more relative to the SEC, certainly relative to UCF, 163 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: better job. But now there are several factors in play 164 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: at UCF that could give it an edge. Two relative 165 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: competition level, and resource level at Auburn puts you behind 166 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: the eight ball when it comes to Alabama and Georgia 167 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: and maybe LSU, maybe A and M. But at Central 168 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: Florida you don't have to deal with that. At Central Florida, 169 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: resource wise and certainly recruiting wise, the playing field is 170 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: either level or tilted in your favor, and all the 171 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: critical factors you're in Orlando. You are down there where 172 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: all the talent is. Anyway, people have to come to 173 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: your backyard to recruit. You've got a very very invigorated 174 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: fan base donor base. We talked about them improving donations 175 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: four hundred percent over the past four years, and that 176 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: was under Danny White, the ad who just went to Tennessee. 177 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of energy around the program. They've 178 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: seen what can happen. And more importantly, you, if you 179 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: agus Malson, you've seen what can happen. So do you 180 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: think you're as good as Scott Frost? His answer unequivocally 181 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: would be yes, which means he believes that he can 182 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: do that there, and you can also you can turn 183 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: Central Florida into a premier job. I do not mean 184 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: in the G five. I just mean a premier job, 185 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: because here's what I would think about if I were 186 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: taking that job. I remember back in twenty sixteen when 187 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: I was down in Columbus. As much as all of 188 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: you think that I despise the G five, I don't. 189 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: I've explained my stance many many times. It is it 190 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: is theory, it is principal. It's not directed in any 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: one program. So I was saying, down there, Houston in 192 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: Central Florida were the two jobs that I would want, 193 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: and I would go there and I would just stay there. 194 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: I'd go there and win. Sot's let's assume I'm good, 195 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: if I'm a good coach, I would go there and win. 196 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: I would make really good money. You know, I'd be paid. 197 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, Malson's contract is probably not the best barometer 198 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: because Malzon has a unique situation again about to get 199 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: to that financially. But I'd go down there and I'd 200 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: make three or four million dollars a year. I'd continue 201 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: to add on, you know, two percent raise, three percent 202 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: raise every year, whatever is going to be. But I 203 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: would sit in wait because what I think is going 204 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: to happen is I think college football is going to 205 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: shift to the point where maybe those programs are in 206 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: the Power five level in a few years. However that happens, 207 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how that happens. It could be they 208 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: stay in the AAC and we just start we just 209 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: start referring to that as the fifth power Conference. Maybe 210 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve never really gets it together and continues 211 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: to sort of collectively fade into the ABYSS, with the 212 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: exception of a few programs out there who are continuing 213 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: to try, you know, against against the stream. They're continuing 214 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: to try. But maybe that's the way it happens. Or 215 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: maybe you have a sudden round of conference expansion again 216 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: and Houston and or Central Florida are gobbled up. Point is, 217 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: there are several arguments to be made that the Central 218 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: Florida program is a really good job, is a top 219 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: twenty job. The other questions dealt with how good a 220 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: coach is Malzan Gus Malson's one of the twentiest best 221 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: head coaches in America. I said that when he was 222 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: at Auburn. That's one of the reasons I thought it 223 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: was ludicrous to fire him. I was in the minority. Clearly, 224 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: I was in the minority. And sometimes even if you 225 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: are top twenty coach. Maybe the situation is stale and 226 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: has run its course at a particular outpost. I get that, 227 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: I understand it. It could so you could make the argument 228 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: it was right for Auburn to move on, and it's 229 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: also a slam dunk home run grand slam higher for 230 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: Central Florida. You can make that argument. I wouldn't push 231 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: back too hard on that. However, let me just put 232 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: it this way. I think definitively they have their best 233 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: coach they've had. Central Florida has the best coach they've had. 234 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I think a lot of people 235 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: are judging Malson based on his Auburn track record, and 236 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: by the way, I think that track record's pretty darn good. 237 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: He stayed at Auburn eight years. He stayed in the 238 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: direct shadow of Nick Saban for eight years. You know 239 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: how many other people are gonna say that thirty years 240 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: down the road when they're looking back. None, And he 241 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: beat him a couple of times. I mean, Malzon's probably 242 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: kept Saban from a couple more national championships. So Malzon's 243 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: a really good coach. However, I think because people will 244 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: probably fairly or unfairly, you decide. But I think because 245 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: people judged him against the backdrop of Nick Saban, who 246 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: know is going to measure up to Malson's looked at 247 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: as a failure. No, no, it's all relative because let 248 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: me ask you this, So, who's the best head coach 249 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: that UCFS had. Scott Frost is the one who went 250 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: undefeated down there, and according to some allegedly rumor, has 251 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: it won a national championship. Can I ask you a question, 252 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest with ourselves. Scott Frost fans or not, 253 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: And this is nothing to get Scott Frost. How do 254 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: you think he'd do if he took the Auburn job today? 255 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he's in Nebraska right now. They're not making 256 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: any noise whatsoever. They certainly are in my inbox. Though 257 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: you guys have been asking for a Nebraska mood tracker. 258 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna get it. You've done exactly what I asked 259 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: you to do. So we got a lot of Nebraska 260 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: folks who listened to the show and watch the show. 261 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: Certainly not a knock on Nebraska by any stretch of 262 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: the imagination. I love Nebraska. Never been able to go 263 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: to a game there, So it's on the Old Lake 264 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: bucket list. But please just slow down, take a breath, 265 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: and be real for a second. How do you think 266 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: Scott Frost would do it Nebraska? And if your answer 267 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: is probably along the lines of what Malzon did would 268 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: be the best case scenario, well, then how in the 269 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: world are we about to scare at the notion that 270 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: Malson may actually secretly be the best coach that Central 271 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Florida's had. I think he is, and so my point 272 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: is I think he's undervalued as a coaching commodity because 273 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: he was in an untenable situation. I had someone pushed 274 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: back the other day on the assertion that I've made 275 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: for a while that Auburn is the toughest job in America. 276 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: And so people don't listen to what I say. They 277 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: hear what they thought I said. Whenever I make that point, 278 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and I always followed up with these qualifiers. 279 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I think Auburn, when you're factoring 280 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: in the expectation level relative to the challenge at that spot, 281 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: is the toughest job in America. See. Yes, if I 282 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: were to go to Tulsa, it's harder to win at 283 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Tulsa than it is at Auburn. No one expects you 284 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: to win ten games a year and compete for a 285 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: national championship. At Tulsa they do. At Auburn they do. 286 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: They absolutely do. Remember who their biggest rivals are. So 287 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: with that being the expectation level, here's what you get 288 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: to do. You get to be the only program in 289 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: America that has to compete with four of about the 290 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: six or seven best recruiting programs in America every year. 291 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: You're the only one who has to play Alabama, Georgia, LSU, 292 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: and Texas A and M every year. That is hard 293 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: to do unless you're one of the most premier recruiters 294 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: in America. It virtually guarantees you're going to be at 295 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: a talent disadvantage to some degree or another four times 296 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: out of your schedule. That's a third of your schedule 297 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: in a normal year, and those are all conference games. 298 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: So yes, it's extremely difficult. It would chew and spit 299 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: out most coaches at Brian Harson's about to find this out. 300 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: I wish him all the success in the world. Harson's 301 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: about to find it out. So now Malson's going to 302 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: UCF the knock on him at Auburn was valid, and 303 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: that was he could never recruit and develop his own quarterbacks. Well, 304 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: you could also just use the transfer portal. I mean, 305 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: if it worse comes to worse, Malzon could do it 306 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: at Central Florida the way that he's always had to 307 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: do it at Auburn when his teams were the most successful. 308 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: I also don't know. I don't know what lessons he 309 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: thinks he may have learned. We'll see. Malsan's a guy 310 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't believe is in kind of a transformative stage 311 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: in his career. I think he is who he is, 312 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: and who he is is good enough to win a 313 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: whole lot of games at UCF, So I think he'll 314 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: be successful there. We'll see what kind of tweaks he makes. 315 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he's certainly running his offense, he's certainly calling plays. 316 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: He is certainly so hilarious. He is certainly aware of 317 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: the pressure cooker that exists as Central Florida. I was 318 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: having some fun yesterday, and I wouldn't I wouldn't duncan 319 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: on this guy by any stretch, because he's doing he's 320 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: doing his job down there, and he's a sports director. 321 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: I saw in Orlando, but he asked, I'm gonna find 322 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: his name. I'm looking it up as we speak. But 323 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: he asked Malzan at the press conference, I'm paraphrasing, said, Hey, 324 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: I know, I know you came from Auburn, but are 325 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: you familiar with what kind of pressure cooker you're walking 326 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: into here? So the guy's name is Darren Stolfus. He's 327 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: a sports director at w E s H in Orlando. 328 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: If you're a sports director in that market size, you 329 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: know how to get the job done. So I'm not 330 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: making fun of the guy by any stretch of the imagination. 331 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: I've been a sports director before. It is not the 332 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: most envious job in the world sometimes, So I just 333 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: thought it was kind of it was kind of funny 334 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: because and you can do that. By the way, you're 335 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: allowed to do that. You're allowed to just kind of 336 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: playfully have some fun with something without calling a guy 337 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: an idiot. You know, it is possible, believe it or not, 338 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: It is possible in twenty twenty one to just lightheartedly 339 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: kid someone. You don't always have to question someone's intellect 340 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: or cast dispersions on their character just because you saw 341 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: a three or four second clip of their life. So anyway, 342 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: I was watching that and then I just my reaction is, Dude, 343 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: Malson is coming from a place, as I tweeted yesterday, 344 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: that is less intense than some hosted situations that I've witnessed. 345 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think he's okay, He'll be good, and 346 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: you could go lead armies right now and in some 347 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: cases not deal with some of the stuff, some of 348 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the baggage and headaches that he had to deal with 349 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: at Auburn, which comes with the job. They pay you 350 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: that kind of money, They're gonna expect you to be 351 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: able to deal with that. The other thing that I 352 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: got asked, and many of you ask is whether Central 353 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: Florida upgraded. Yeah, they did, That's not even close in 354 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: my mind, Yes they did. They had Josh Hipel, they 355 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: have Gus Malsan now. But when you dig a little deeper, 356 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: and this is where we just got a hats off 357 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: applaud Central Florida. When's the last time you saw a 358 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: program lose their athletic director their head coach after the season, 359 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: By the way, so after the pool of available coaches 360 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: is in most cases all dried up, they lost their 361 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: athletic director and their head coach and they got better. 362 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I think they improved. I don't know about the athletic 363 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: director portion, but we identify the face of a program 364 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: by the head coach. They improved. That's hard to do. 365 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: It's hard to do at any level. I mean, if 366 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: the University of Georgia were to lose their ad and 367 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: head coach right now, they'd be okay, trust me, but 368 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't be easy. And so Central Florida 369 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: hats off to you guys. And then there was another part. 370 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: So I actually have like multiple tentacles of yesterday's situation. 371 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: Since the Central Florida job was open, and it's open 372 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: because their head coach went to Tennessee. Some people were asking, 373 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: which is the better job right now? Which would you 374 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: rather have? I gotta be honest with you, I'd rather 375 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: have the Central Florida job. I mean I've got an 376 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: equal to or slight advantage over my competition. I'm going 377 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: to be paid enough at Tennessee. The backdrop is total mystery. 378 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: It's complete unknown abyss. You don't know what's coming down 379 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: the road. So you're going to be at a disadvantage. 380 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: You're inheriting an inferior roster. All that, if you're good enough, 381 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: that can be rectified. You know my feelings on the 382 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: Tennessee job. I don't need to rehash it. I'm about 383 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: as far from a Vall hater as could possibly be. 384 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in the potential of the Tennessee program. 385 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: But that's independent of what the current situation is. And 386 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: that's the NCAA uncertainty. And I mean, you're asking me 387 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: right now, not in ten years or ten years ago, 388 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: right now, what's the better job. I take the Central 389 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: Florida job, which begs the question, why did a combination 390 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: of ad and head coach just leave one for the other? Well, 391 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: obviously they don't agree with me. First off, that's obvious. Secondly, though, 392 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: the question was posed to me and not them. And 393 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: so I like the Central Florida position in the college 394 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: football ecosystem right now better than I would like the 395 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: Tennessee job. Now, it could very well be that we 396 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: get an announcement that BNCAA is going to pursue no 397 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: further action against Tennessee than has already been pursued. Tomorrow. 398 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: You know, maybe that announcement comes tomorrow. Highly unlikely, but 399 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: if that were the case, I would shift my opinion 400 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: on that. If the uncertainty were taken away and all 401 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: it was was a rebuild, well I would like the 402 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: Tennessee job better. And lastly, everyone was very, very curious 403 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: about the salary from Alazon. So the salary was I 404 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: think five years, eleven point five million dollars and that's total, 405 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: not per year. And some looked at that and said, 406 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: that's interesting. Isn't that a little low? Yet? It is? 407 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: It sure is. Now let's get to the rest of 408 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: the story. The rest of the story has to do 409 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: with a little term in our world. It's called mitigation. 410 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: There's a mitigation clause putting contracts. And basically, here's what 411 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: I've learned about law and politics over the years. Law 412 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: and politics. They were smart enough to create their own 413 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,479 Speaker 1: language a long time ago. And what this does is 414 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: it has the exact effect on you that someone speaking 415 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: Mandarin Chinese would have on me. I wouldn't understand a 416 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: single thing being said. Well, when it comes to law 417 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: and when it comes to politics, if they can pull 418 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: that off, then it can make some basic concepts seem 419 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: extremely complex. And here's the basic concept in play. Malzon 420 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: got fired from Auburn and you would think most of 421 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,199 Speaker 1: the time, a buyout is only good if you're not 422 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: working somewhere else. You know, if I fire you and 423 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: the buyout language in your contract is I've got to 424 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: pay you twenty one point five million dollars over the 425 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: next however many years. Well, okay, that's if you just 426 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: sit at home. But if you go and find another job, 427 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: then we're either going to offset the twenty one point 428 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: five relative to how much you're making there, or I 429 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: won't owe you anything. Well, here's how good the agent's 430 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: namely Jimmy Sexton, has been in the SEC and they 431 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: have victimized athletic departments at every turn. South Carolina must 432 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: Champ just found this out. Malzon did not have a 433 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: mitigation clause in his contract, Ladies and gentlemen. So when 434 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: Gus Malson woke up yesterday morning, Auburn owed him twenty 435 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: one point five million dollars, And when Gus Maleson woke 436 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: up this morning, Auburn owed him twenty one point five 437 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: million dollars. And in between those two points, he took 438 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: a new job that's going to pay him another eleven 439 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: point five million, plus probably incentives and raises over the 440 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: next five years. Gus Mauson is living a charmed life. 441 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: And here's another thing I know about Malson. He may 442 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: even be cheaper than me. I mean, he drove the 443 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: same f two fifty around Auburn all eight years of 444 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: his tenure there, from what I saw, so he doesn't 445 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: spend any of his money's like Kevin Garnett. I think 446 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: what his plan has been all along is to coach 447 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: until he gets to a certain age and then say 448 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: by and go buy an island, like David Copperfield. I 449 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: read one time I was buying islands in the Bahamas. 450 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: That's what I would do if I were Malson. Just 451 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: work until a certain age and then go live in 452 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: the Bahamas and be totally off the grid for the 453 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: rest of your life. All right. Next step is a 454 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: good one, really good. But I think I got it 455 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago and it's been kicked down 456 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: the road because it was evergreens. The secret Always ask 457 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: me time sensitive questions because it forces me to answer them. 458 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: If you ask me the evergreen questions, they just they 459 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: just dropped to the bottom and they get left on 460 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. But don't worry, I'll eventually answer them. 461 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 1: So Jason has one. I want you to think about 462 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: this your earliest sports memory, favorite sports memory, because I 463 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: got one that's pretty vivid, and we'll talk about it 464 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: right after this. So Jason asked actually a two part question. 465 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: The first one was what's your earliest sports memory and 466 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: what's the first game you ever went to. My earliest 467 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: sports memory was in nineteen ninety two. I was a 468 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: we taught we we taught, and the first time I 469 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: was allowed to stay up past midnight was to watch 470 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: a national championship game. So that year, that was the 471 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: Miami Alabama game, and it was the first time I 472 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: was allowed to stay up past midnight, so that was 473 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: very memorable. That was also a game Miami was favored 474 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: over Bama, and Bama I think one. It was thirty 475 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: four to thirteen thirty one or thirty four thirteen. I 476 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: think the final was. I've got a computer hooked up 477 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: to Internet right in front of me, and I am 478 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: not even looking the score up, which is pathetic, but 479 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: on a time crunch this morning. So that's the first 480 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: sports memory. Now my first live sporting event, boy, I 481 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: don't know what the year was. It was the nineties 482 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: and I was taken to a game. It was the 483 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Saturday game of the Week on CBS, but not college football. 484 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: It was baseball, because they used to have a Saturday 485 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: Game of the Week on CBS for baseball, and it 486 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: was Brave's Mets. It was at Atlanta Fulton County Stadium 487 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: hashtag gone but not forgotten, and Atlanta lost three to 488 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: two in ten innings. I was heartbroken. Jeff Blauser hit 489 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: a home run that day, first live home run I've 490 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: ever seen. Shout out Jeff Blauser, by the way, that 491 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: was like ten thousand to one odds on the podcast 492 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: this morning, So a big round of applause for all 493 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: you folks holding a Jeff Blauser late kick mentioned ticket 494 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: that one's going to cash. But I remember walking in 495 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: a big league stadium for the first time. Man, I 496 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: was awestruck. I didn't even feel like that was real life. 497 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Fulton County Stadium has been demolished now and Turner Field 498 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: is no longer in use for the Braves, so I've 499 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: been through three stadiums already. In my well, I still 500 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: think my pretty young lifetime. I mean, I'm not approaching 501 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: retirement age by any stretch around here at Turner Field 502 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: just wasn't around a long time for baseball. They broke 503 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: it in in ninety seven and it was done what 504 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: like three or four years ago. Now, stadiums just don't 505 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: last today as long as they used to. It's kind 506 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: of fascinating if you really think about it, that the 507 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Cubs and Red Sox are still playing in the same 508 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: stadiums they were in like when the Titanic sank. And 509 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: then you got other teams who have been in and 510 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: out of ballparks already and moved to new ones in 511 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: your lifetime, and I mean, you're still fairly young. The 512 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: Falcons did the same thing. They were in the Georgia 513 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Dome early nineties until early twenty teens, and then they 514 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: built Mercedes Benz Stadium. I love the Georgia Dome. I've 515 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: spoken about my love for the Georgia Dome many times. 516 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: Mercedes been Stadium is great. I like the Georgia Dome. 517 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: That was the first place I ever got to cover 518 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: a college football game. It was Bama West Virginia. I 519 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: think it was so I've got a fondness for that place. 520 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: I like the parking situation better, and that's a personal thing. 521 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 1: But I missed the Georgia Dome, so those are my 522 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: first memories. Those are always real fun stories. I could 523 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: sit there all day. In fact, when we do this 524 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: interactive zoom style podcat as with you guys, whenever I 525 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: get to thirteen thousand on Twitter, I may just ask 526 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: you your favorite or first sports memory and then just 527 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: shut up. It may make for very, very entertaining audio. 528 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: I also wanted to hit this transition. This is a 529 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: new topic now, not so much a question. A lot 530 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: of you just submitted things after the Sunday Show on 531 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: If you have already missed this, I suggest that you 532 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: go back and listen to it. The Sunday Night Show 533 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: I discussed the NCAA's extension or proposed extension of the 534 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: recruiting dead period, and some of you, when you hear 535 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: the word recruiting, you're either into it or you're not. 536 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: But I would suggest all of you should be into 537 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: this particular facet of recruiting. So the dead period has 538 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: been in place for like a year now for COVID 539 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 1: related reasons, which I had never had a problem with. 540 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: I think in time it's grown very impractical and illogical 541 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: in its implementation, And I was talking about it the 542 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: other night, because you got a class of twenty twenty 543 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: two kids rising seniors this upcoming fall in high school 544 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: that are going to be going on now two years. 545 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: When you overlay the time periods where they will have 546 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: not gotten the chance to go to camps, have in 547 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: person evaluations, have in person interactions with coaches, and I 548 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: think a lot of times, if you're not involved in 549 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: the world, you look at recruiting through the lens of 550 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: four and five star kids and you think to yourself, oh, well, 551 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: you know they'll get an offer either way, they'll get 552 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: evaluated either way. You're right, you're right. But that's the 553 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: small chunk of the pie. There are thousands of kids 554 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: out there who don't meet those qualifications, who also want 555 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: to play college football, and they're falling through the cracks. 556 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: It just happened in the twenty twenty one cycle, but 557 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: it's going to really happen in the twenty twenty two cycle. 558 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: So we're looking at extending this dead period until May 559 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: thirty first, so all of March, all of April, all 560 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: of May, and then we'll revisit and may open things 561 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: up in June and July and I just I spoke 562 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: about it the other night, and I had so many coaches, 563 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: parents and actual high school players in my inbox just 564 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: thinking me, they don't have a voice. They don't have 565 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: a voice. Right now, they're out there, they are yelling. 566 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: It's like they're yelling in space where there's no oxygen 567 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: and there's no sound, and like no one can hear them. 568 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: They are getting screwed, and they're getting screwed, not for 569 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: reasons that are necessary anymore. There is no way you're 570 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: going to convince me that parents and players of parents 571 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: could not be safely capable of visiting college campuses. And 572 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: there's no way you're going to tell me that assistant 573 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: coaches and head coaches could not safely all the proper 574 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: health requirements necessary go out on the road and visit 575 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: face to face with families and visit face to face 576 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: with players. And yet the cans just being lazily kicked 577 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: down the road right now because the Oversight committee is 578 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: suggesting it, and it's insane to me, it's insane. Whoever's 579 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: to blame, it's insane. So I just wanted to do acknowledge. 580 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: I got your emails, I've read them, I've interacted with 581 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: a lot of you, but quite frankly, there have been 582 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: too many to interact with every single one of them. 583 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of high school coaches who 584 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: were thanking me because hey, someone finally voiced what we've 585 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: been trying to voice for a long time and it 586 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: seems like no one's listening, and parents and a ton 587 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: of parents and players. So just want to let you 588 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: guys know, I got those emails, I've gotten those dms, 589 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: and yes, I will continue to voice concerns about this 590 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: because I think they're very valid. It's just to not 591 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: even be given the option, that's what's aggravating to me. 592 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: And I know it's maddening to you guys, to not 593 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: be given the option to just make your own decision. 594 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: No one's forcing you. No one wants to force you 595 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: to go take visits, No one wants to force you 596 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: to have coaches come in your school or in your 597 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: living room. To not have the option when a vast 598 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: majority of you that I've heard from want the option, 599 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: that's what's ridiculous. And you got a lot of other 600 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: people who aren't emotionally attached to it, who look around 601 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: and say, oh, it'll be fine. It'll be fine for you, 602 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: But you're not a high school junior right now who's 603 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: only going to get one shot at this thing. See, 604 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: I'm in I work for twenty four to seven sports, 605 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: so there'll be a new class of seniors every year 606 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: for me. And if there's disruption for twenty twenty one 607 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two, hey, twenty twenty three, the sun 608 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: will rise again. But here's the thing. If you're a 609 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: junior right now, that's not the deal. There's only going 610 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: to be one shot. And if you're a kid who 611 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: was going to be maybe a borderline like the twenty 612 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: third or twenty fourth spot in a twenty five man 613 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: class for Eastern Michigan, you may not have a shot. 614 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: You may be a guy who falls through the cracks. 615 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: And what happens then? What do you tell that kid? 616 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: What do you tell them? Like football? What their plan A? 617 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: What do you tell them? I don't know. I have 618 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: no clue. So I really just wish we could get 619 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: this thing figured out. Let me let Kevin wrap us 620 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: up this morning. Here he says, dude, why are you 621 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: hyping Miami so much? I didn't know that I was Kevin, 622 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: So I get this often. I don't have a problem 623 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: with it. Thank you for the submission, Kevin. I don't 624 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: know that I'm hyping Miami. Let me very clearly state 625 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: my feelings on Miami. I think this is one of 626 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 1: those situations where people have heard me say something I 627 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: haven't said. I think Miami is an improving program, which 628 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: means I think they're going to be better tomorrow than 629 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: they are today, and they're on that trajectory currently. I 630 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: see no reason to believe that's going to stop. I 631 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: think Manny Diaz has done a really good job of 632 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: overturning and improving his roster. They're recruiting, well, they're not 633 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: an elite level yet, but they can be. And they're 634 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: recruiting better today than they did yesterday. Their coaching staff, 635 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: I think, is better today than it was last year. 636 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: They've made improvements year over year. Okay, so that's a 637 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: program that's trending in the right direction. It's not great 638 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: or terrible. It's not all or nothing. Not always black 639 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: or white. There are several shades of gray in college 640 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: football and in life. Really, I mean, people want to 641 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: say Miami has been terrible. Miami was a nine to 642 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: win program last year. That's not terrible. It's not great. 643 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: It's not terrible. You don't have to beat Clemson or 644 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: else suck. There are levels, there are tiers that you 645 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: can exist in. So it's not ten or zero. Miami 646 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: could be a six right now and trending towards seven 647 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: or eight status. But I also have talked recently and 648 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: I will continue to bang the drum about the fact 649 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: that I believe Miami is in a really good spot. 650 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: If it's Manny Diaz or someone else, they're in a 651 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: very good spot for the future of college football. Name, 652 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: image and likeness is going to be great for them. 653 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: The transfer portal, one way or another's going to be 654 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: great for them. You got a lot of kids who 655 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: leave South Florida who may want a default back home. 656 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: Miami is in a natural position to benefit from that. 657 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: Miami is in a good spot. So that's the hype 658 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: I've been giving them. Last I checked and Jordan producer Jordan, 659 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong. I don't think 660 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: I've predicted them to beat Clemson this year. I don't 661 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: think I've called for him to pull the upset over 662 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: allib in Week one. I don't think i've called for 663 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 1: them to make the playoff next year, and none of 664 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: that's come out of my mouth. So whatever the hype 665 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: you've heard is, it's got to be tied to what 666 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: I just said, because all I've said about Miami is 667 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: what I just reiterated this morning. So I'm not worked 668 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: up about it, as you can tell, trying to remain calm. 669 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: But I see this all the time. I get this 670 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: a lot. People hear what you didn't say, So straight 671 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: from the horse's mouth, I just submitted to you all 672 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: my current thoughts about the Miami program. Take them and 673 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: do with them what you will remember. Give me a 674 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: follow on Twitter at late Kick Josh. Also, since I 675 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: am snowed and I Seden, really good time for you 676 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: to book those Zoom sessions. Looking to get in sports media, 677 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: looking to get into the YouTube game, the podcasting game, 678 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: very shifting shifting sands right now, let's say in that world, 679 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: the digital media world. So let's talk about that if 680 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: you want to, I'm booking them an hour at a time. 681 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: They're really in depth, they're really nuanced. They're for people 682 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: who are serious about getting into this. If you are, 683 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: hit me with an email. Josh Pate seven zero six 684 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com or you can DM me. As 685 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: I said on Twitter at Lake Kickji, I have got 686 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: to go record with Steve Wilfong right now. Highlight of 687 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: my week. So I'm going to send this off to 688 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: producer Jordan to get cut up and you will end 689 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: up hearing this sometime later this morning. Thank you so 690 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: much for listening. Have a great rest of your day, 691 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Stay warm, stay safe, and God bless