1 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: This is earning their stripes on the fish Stripes podcast channel, 2 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: our show dedicated to the minor league side of the 3 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Miami Marlins organization. Specifically for listeners of this show, I 4 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: highly highly recommend following the fish Prospects Twitter account. That's 5 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: a satellite account on top of our usual fish Stripes account, 6 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: and it focuses, as you would guess on Prospects. Reaching 7 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 1: one thousand followers there before the end of the year 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: would be a neat milestone. Amili Sussman, Managing editor of 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes, let me tell you all about today's special guest. 10 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Right after this commercial break. Andrew mackinvale was acquired by 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: the Marlins on June twenty ninth in the bizarre Corey 12 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 1: Dickerson Adam Simber Joe Panic trade. Remember that one. Even 13 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: in the moment, it seemed like Macinveil, a heart throwing 14 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: reliever in the midst of his first full length professional season, 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: was the key piece going back to Miami is sure enough, 16 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: with Panic struggling as much as he did in late 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and then electing free agency, it's totally 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: up to Macinveil to salvage that trade from a Marlins perspective. 19 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Through forty three career games in the minors, the Liberty 20 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: University alum has pitched to a four point six to 21 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: eight ERA and one point four to four whip in 22 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: sixty five and a third innings. If his hot stretch 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: towards the end of the Double A season as any 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: indication his best work is yet to come. Macinveil is 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: a strikeout machine and a Tommy John surgery survivor, and 26 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: he used to have an elite beard that will hopefully 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: come back someday. Please. He generously took the time to 28 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: join me on ets to make this MLB lockout a 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: little bit more entertaining. Enjoy We are closing out twenty 30 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: twenty one. Here on earning their stripes very appropriately by 31 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: interviewing a Marlins player that I think has some attributes 32 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: that you look for in a future closer. Andrew macinvale 33 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: is a twenty five year old right handed pitcher who's 34 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: relatively new to the Marlins organization. He came over from 35 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays last summer in a four player trade, 36 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: and he spent the rest of the season with Double 37 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: A Pencil Coola, striking out a third of all the 38 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: batters that he faced. It might not be long before 39 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: he has an opportunity to break through to the highest level. 40 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: So there's lots of cover with you, Andrew on and 41 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: off the field. Really appreciate you coming through for me 42 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: and here on the. 43 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: Pod absolutely man, Thanks for having me. Glad to be here. 44 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to start with the basics because you might 45 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: be surprised how many people listening to this probably seen 46 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: you pitch, or at least seeing the highlights of you 47 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: pitch last year. I'm not sure how many of them 48 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: actually got to see full games of you or know 49 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: of much what you did like through the years. Just 50 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: the basics on your pitch mix, Can you just tell 51 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: us what's in your arsenal and how you try to 52 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,119 Speaker 1: get guys out. 53 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: I try to. 54 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: Attack hitters when you're feeling at the top of your game. 55 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean, I'm I like to stay aggressive 56 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: on the mound. I'm pretty fastball heavy. I think I 57 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: threw my fastball around sixty to five percent of the 58 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: time this last season. Pair that with my slider. I 59 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: like to use those up in the zone playing off spin. Carrie, 60 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure you've heard those things before and 61 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: then the biggest, the newest development for me is a 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: change up. Been messing around with a splitter at times 63 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: last year, a vulcan change, just finding that right third 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: pitch for me to kind of attack lefties with. But yeah, 65 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: for right now, fastball slider, change up. 66 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna get a lot into twenty twenty one. 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: In a moment, I wanted to turn it back a 68 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: couple of years to coming out of the draft in 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, thirty seventh round draft pick out of Liberty University. 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: What was your mindset, What were your expectations heading into 71 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: the draft? Do you think you were going to get drafted? 72 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: And how did you experience the news Because I know everybody, 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: no matter how far you fool, everybody has draft. 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: Memory or story. Yeah. Absolutely no, I mean I knew 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: I was going to get drafted. The question was you 76 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: know when? And thirty seventh round is definitely not what 77 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: I was thinking going into it. And I had some 78 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: you know, offers earlier in the draft, but I kind 79 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: of negotiated that process by myself. I didn't have an 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: agency with me or advisor at the time, so it 81 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: was kind of a whirlwind and I kind of fumbled 82 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: the situation a bit. Let the pressure, the nerves of 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 2: like handling that whole process by myself get to me, 84 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: and found myself in the thirty seventh round and just 85 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: wanting to play pro baseball at that point, and so 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: I kind of took I'm the best offer at that point, 87 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: which you can't really leverage yourself much, you know, in 88 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: the thirty seventh round. But the Blue Jays gave me 89 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 2: a chance. They expressed me they wanted me the best 90 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: they could for that late in the draft, and I 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 2: believed them, and you know, from there and it definitely 92 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 2: worked out like it worked out for me with them, 93 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: and now I'm Marlin and I you know, it all 94 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: worked out. But no, definitely wasn't what I expected. It 95 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: wasn't quite as like a happy day as most people 96 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: probably have. I was kind of more like my head 97 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: was spinning. But yeah, I kind of now now that 98 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: it's all said and done, I kind of embraced it. 99 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 2: I enjoy the fact that I wasn't like, I mean, 100 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: it'd be cool to be a first rounder, right obviously, 101 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: but having that thirty seventh and that chip on my shoulder, 102 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: I kind of like it. 103 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: He might that might prove to be the very last 104 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: time that there is a thirty seventh round of it. 105 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 2: Might be Yeah, no kidding, Yeah, I know, I was 106 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: talking to my buddies about that, and I'm kidding. I 107 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: might have not gotten drafted. It was a different year, 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: but I had to be a free agency. 109 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, only five rounds in the year after that. Twenty 110 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 1: rounds last year, and we'll let to see what the 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: new system is with the new CBA, but I would 112 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: guess it's it's not going to be that long again. 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: So that was That's interesting, the timing of how that 114 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: went out. Obviously coming out in the summer, there's only 115 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: so many endings that you were able to pitch in 116 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: pro ball during that first year, and then twenty twenty 117 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: canceled due to COVID. What was so what was the 118 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: communication like with the Blue Jays during that whole situation, 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: because the news comes in I think probably during minor 120 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: league spring training during Yeah, what did they tell you 121 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: at the time, And what was the communication like during 122 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: that year with coaches or anybody else in that organization? 123 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: It was it was weird for everybody. I mean, we 124 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: didn't know, like you said, it happened during Minor league 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: spring training, so we're there. In fact, the way that 126 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: we like kind of broke news that we were leaving 127 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: camp was by getting everybody in the organization together in 128 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: the lunch room to like talk about COVID, which obviously 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: fast forward a few months. We would have never done that, 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: you know, packed everybody into a small room, but they 131 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 2: sent us out. And the idea at first was that 132 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: we were coming back. You know, stay moving, We're going 133 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: to come back. Try to get through this. And as 134 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: like days weeks went by, you could start and tell like, Okay, 135 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: we're not going back this year. I don't think that's 136 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: going to happen, and so the the mood changed to Okay, 137 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: let's get prepared for next year. For me, personally, I 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: didn't feel like I was in a position to kind 139 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: of like rest and recover. I felt like I needed 140 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: to get work done. So I spent all of twenty 141 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: twenty like VLO programming, you know, working on mechanics, hammering 142 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 2: stuff home and really no break. But you know, that 143 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: was it was a weird time. That being said, it 144 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: might have played one of the most crucial roles in 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: my development that I've had so far, because It gave 146 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: me so much time to go back and look at 147 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: my mechanics and look at what I'm doing on the 148 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: mound and really dial it in for my first full 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: season that you know came this last year. 150 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: I guess, and going into last year. This is a 151 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: similar situation, just like the draft, when anybody gets traded, 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: there's always an interesting story behind that, and although it's 153 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: surprising for everybody, it's kind of would have to be 154 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: like on another level for you. You got traded in June. 155 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Nobody gets traded in June. 156 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty weird. I wasn't ready for it, 157 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: to say the least. 158 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: So you're involved in that trade with Corey Dickerson and 159 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: Adam Simberg going to Toronto, You're coming along with Joe 160 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: Panic to Miami. You were with a double A New 161 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Hampshire at the time. How did you get that news? 162 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: And what was that whirlwind of a time like to 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: completely relocate and change, completely change organizations? 164 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: Right? So I actually, so I woke up that morning, right, 165 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: It's like nine am, and I, you know, first thing 166 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: instinct to get on my phone. I hate that's the 167 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: first thing I do in the morning, but of course 168 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: check my phone and I'm looking at Instagram, right and 169 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 2: I see that there's a trade with the Marlins and 170 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays involvement involving Dickerson, panic Simber and then 171 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: a minor leaguer. I'm like, no way, that's me. Like 172 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even think twice about it. Two minutes later, 173 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: I get a call from our farm director, like literally 174 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: like two minutes later, while I'm still looking at Instagram, basically, 175 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: and he's like, buddy, you're out of here. We trained 176 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: you to Miami. And I'm like, what are you kidding. 177 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: It's not even nine thirty in the morning yet, eyes 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: are barely awake. And so I literally packed my stuff, 179 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: got an uber and was to the Boston Airport, you know, 180 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: within two hours, and Pensacola that day. And it was 181 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: just it all happened so fast that I almost couldn't 182 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 2: wrap my head around it until like I got there, 183 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: settled in my hotel. But yeah, whirlwind of a day 184 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 2: is kind of an understatement. 185 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: And it would be the first of a bunch of 186 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: trades that the Marlins made during that portion of the season. 187 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: And as he said, you stayed on the same level, 188 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: pitching fairly well with double A at the time in 189 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, and you stay on the same level 190 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: when it's coming over to the Marlins. I guess we'll 191 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: fast forward a little bit too your time. It was 192 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: a little bit up and down with Colo. But I 193 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: mean what sticks out. I mean, the one particular performance 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,359 Speaker 1: above all else was that immaculate ending on August thirteenth. 195 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: As far as I know, on any level of the organization, 196 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: you're probably the only guy to throw an immaculate ending 197 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: this year. Nine pitches, nine strikes, three strikeouts, a perfect ending. 198 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: And I even have a queued up right here. Is 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: that something you even think about when you're pitching? Or 200 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: for you just because you get all the guys out? 201 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: Is that good enough? Did you even realize that you 202 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: did what you did? 203 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: When no, I honestly had no idea that this was. 204 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: At a moment when this this outing kind of like 205 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: turned the corner for me, I was I was, like 206 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 2: you said, I was struggling when I got over there. 207 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 2: I think I was trying to do maybe a little 208 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: too much, and you know, impressed too many people prove 209 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 2: that I was, you know, worth a trade or whatever 210 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: you might say. But this outing right here, I remember 211 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: going into it and saying, I'm going to focus on 212 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 2: like each individual pitch and I'm gonna, like, you know, 213 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: people say that sounds cliche, like you know, you can 214 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: can't go on to the next pitch until you execute 215 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: this one, right, But I really took that to heart 216 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: and really just focus on each individual pitch and I can't. 217 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: I actually came in the inning before this with two outs, 218 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: struck a guy out on three pitches, came into the dugout, 219 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: was like telling myself, yo, stay within, you know, each pitch, 220 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: each pitch, went back out there through the inning and 221 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: came in and I had no idea. I had no 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: idea at all. My buddies were like, let's go, let's go. 223 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: That's an immaculate inning, and I'm like, what are you 224 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 2: talking about? Like I had to kind of think what 225 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 2: an immaculate inning was for a second, and then I realized, like, oh, 226 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: that's really cool. And then my brother pointed out that 227 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: I got the guy the inning before that too, So 228 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: I had four strikeouts and twelve pitches, And I mean 229 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: that kind of like obviously you can't expect that every 230 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: time when you're you know, following your routine, but that 231 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: kind of reinforced me like, Okay, this is the way 232 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: I need to carry myself. I need to really dial 233 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 2: in on this this this one pitch at a time philosophy. 234 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 2: And after that outing, man, I really did see a 235 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: turn in my performance and in my confidence on the mound, 236 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: and I kind of you went on a roll from there. 237 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's an understatement. You were. Even if you 238 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: take out that game you look at it was what one, two, three, four, 239 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: It was seven games after that only allowing one run, 240 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: basically unhittable down the stretch, even outside of that one game. Yeah, 241 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: So was there any nothing, anything in particular about that 242 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: that turned you around or it was all just mentally 243 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: psychologically feeling there's a lot. 244 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: Of mental psychological I think, you know, coming over the 245 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 2: trade your first year, meeting new guys, Like I think 246 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: I finally settled in. I think I finally like was like, 247 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: all right, I'm not going anywhere, Like let's let's play 248 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: some baseball, you know what I mean, like stop trying 249 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: to do too much. And I think I just settled in, 250 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: for lack of a matter word, that's that's what it was. 251 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: And I mean sure started, you know, throwing the change 252 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: up in tad More. I'm sure that got people off 253 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: certain pitches. Tweaked the slider at Tad but like nothing 254 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: you know physically was was the big difference. It was 255 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: a mental. It was a mindset thing for me that 256 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: helped me take that next step. 257 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: We're talking with Andrew mcnveiale here on earning this stripes 258 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: on the Fish Strips podcast, And I guess the only 259 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: unfortunate part of that final stretch is that you didn't 260 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,599 Speaker 1: get to pitch even more. There were a couple of 261 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: series in there, both of them road series, won them 262 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: in late August, and then one of them was supposed 263 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: to be the last game of a regular season that 264 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: you lost like nine total games off because of COVID. 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: And I mean, as far as we saw from the outside, 266 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: it just seemed to be issues with the other team 267 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: and not necessarily your team. But that's that's pretty uh 268 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 1: u inconvenient. That's unusual because baseball players are not foreign 269 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: to having games ranked out and it's having games canceled 270 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. But what do you remember from from 271 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: those series? Uh? Well, what was the communication like about 272 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: having to lose games because of that reason? And had 273 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 1: you lost a lot of not just games, so a 274 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: lot of days like had you even ready to compete 275 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: after losing a chunk of your schedule like that? 276 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: And the one in the one in August that was 277 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: in Mississippi, I think, yeah, I think it was Biloxi 278 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: maybe when it hit us, or maybe it was Mississippi Braves. 279 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 2: I don't remember, but that one was kind of shocking. 280 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: They kind of just came in and we're like, hey, 281 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 2: they're swamped with COVID, Like we can't play, We're going on. 282 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: So it kind of and that was like the first 283 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 2: game in the series, second game in the series, so 284 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: we didn't really you know, have to think much about 285 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 2: that one. The last one, the last series of the year, 286 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: they got canceled and I think it was Rocket City 287 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: Trash Pandas maybe that one was a lot different. So 288 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: we we were gonna play Night one. You know, we 289 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: did play Night one, and they had to like field 290 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: a team with a bunch of COVID guys, like a 291 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: bunch of guys they flew up to replace the COVID guys, 292 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: and so we squeaked that game in and then the 293 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 2: next day they had more guys get COVID and so 294 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: We're just sticking to our routine of showing up to 295 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: the part, you know, getting scratched, getting warmed up, assuming 296 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: there's a game, and they couldn't field a team. So 297 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: the third day we get there and we're ready to 298 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 2: play again, you know, stick to our routine, just warm up, eat, 299 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: do that whole do the whole deal, and they couldn't 300 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 2: field a team again. So we're like, what's going on here. 301 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 2: It turns out they were protesting in the parking lot 302 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: because of like some organizational issues where they didn't feel 303 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: comfortable playing or something, and we were just going about 304 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: our business waiting for the game to start and it 305 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: never did. That's how our season ended was because the 306 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: other team didn't want to play and we were all 307 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: sitting there kind of like, I mean, this isn't kind 308 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 2: of how we wanted to finish our year, you know 309 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: what I mean. We want to get these last six 310 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: games in, but it is what it is. And to 311 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: you to your question, we just stay in our routine. 312 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: You know, you get to the field about the same 313 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: time every day for a six thirty game. You know, 314 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: you warm up about the same time, you get your 315 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: treatment about the same time. So we just stay in 316 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: that routine and if the game's on, we're ready to play. 317 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: And if it's not, and I guess we'll go back 318 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: to the hotel and play some video games or something. 319 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: But our routine doesn't change. It's the same every day. 320 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: It just must have been such an awkward ending to 321 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: the season, right a few days earlier than it was 322 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be. You just got the message that well, 323 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: like that earlier that week, that well, the rest of 324 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: this series won't happen. You could go home. It just 325 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: must have been because usually, no matter what situation you're in, 326 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: there's like a build up to the end of the schedule. 327 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: There's like you see the finish line, and there's a 328 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: even amongst yourself teammates, like it's easier to wrap your 329 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: head and easier to even get excited for those final 330 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: games if you know where it ended. What was that 331 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: like vibe in the clubhouse ended earlier than it was 332 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: supposed to do. 333 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's bittersweet. We were we weren't going to 334 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. We had just got eliminated, so we 335 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 2: knew we were going home soon. And like you know, 336 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: it was a long year, so guys were ready to 337 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: get home. That being said, we had played one hundred 338 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 2: and forty games, like we were ready for our last six, 339 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 2: like we were going to get it in and compete 340 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: and have fun with it. And guys were ready for 341 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: their starts. I know I was ready for, you know, 342 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: my last two outings of the year, that kind of deal. 343 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: But I don't know, there was so much adversity thrown 344 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: aster throughout the year that like that was just another 345 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 2: curve ball, like we were ready for, like not how 346 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: you wanted to draw but the whole season and kind 347 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: of it wasn't the way you wanted it drawn out anyway, 348 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: So just just part of it, part of the life, 349 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: and we move on. 350 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on a few of 351 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: your teammates because already this offseason you may have noticed 352 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: that the major league level of the Marlins are finally 353 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: like making some aggressive moves to try to compete coming 354 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: off a pretty allows a year, and to do that, 355 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, they had to dive into some of their 356 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: farm system depth. Not you yet, and it doesn't seem 357 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: like that that's nothing you gotta worry about. But some 358 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: of the guys you played with for Pensacola down the stretch, 359 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: like in particular, two different trades, Cameron Meisner going to 360 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Kyle Nicholas go into a part of the 361 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh deal. I mean, especially with Meisner, you probably intersected 362 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: like a really small amount of time. But I'm curious 363 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: just about those two guys. Do you have any scouting 364 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: reports on what you saw from them while playing alongside them? 365 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got scouting reports. Kyle's of the beast and 366 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 2: as a beast, they're both great baseball players. Man as 367 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: a freak guys you know, like six four, six five 368 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: and twenty pounds, runs like a deer, like just an 369 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: absolutely tooled up in the outfield. No question in my mind, 370 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna be, you know, playing baseball for a long time. Kyle, 371 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: same thing, Like, look at that guy. He's six four 372 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 2: six y five, thick legs, athletic guy, can throw gas like, 373 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: got a good pitch mix. Like both those guys, I'm 374 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: excited to see where your career goes. I think they're 375 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: both gonna be studs in the future. I hate to 376 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: see him go, but I'll tell you what, we did 377 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: have some fun while we were together. 378 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: That's for sure, I feel the same way, which is 379 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: why that those moves were kind of gut wrenching for me. 380 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: He guys in particular, they both of them, if if 381 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: they reached their full potential, they are not just big 382 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: leaguers but impact big. 383 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Leaguers, good ones for sure. Absolutely, I'm with you. I'm 384 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: with you. 385 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. When I get to among the guys 386 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 1: that are still in the organization. So later this week, 387 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the lockout, I have nothing 388 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: better to do. I'm gonna update our top prospects fish stripes, 389 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: And I was wondering if you have any nominations you 390 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: want to put in a good word for aside from 391 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: those guys, guys that are still in the organization that 392 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: he played with over those couple of months with Pencacle, 393 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: is there anybody that you feel is a little bit 394 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: overlooked at this time and you think over you feel 395 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: especially high on moving forward. 396 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: Probaul my boy, Zach Laban. I don't know if you 397 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: know Liban, but he's a belief guy. I know this. 398 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: I met the kid the day I got to UH Pensacola, 399 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: and he was like, you know, welcoming, super cool guy. Whatever. 400 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 2: He goes in that night and I'm like, you know, 401 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: this guy looks pretty athletic, like he can throw pretty hard, 402 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: and he's closing out the game and he's hitting ninety 403 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: nine and I'm like, dude, what is going on? This 404 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: kid is throwing gas. And from that day I was like, Okay, 405 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: he's got it. He's just doing it like the rest 406 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: of us trying to figure out that consistency, but this 407 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: kid's got it for sure. So I would say Levan 408 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: might get slept on a little bit. I know, my 409 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: boy mccambley gets a lot of hyphe but he needs 410 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: some more hype because he's nasty. He's got a great breaker, 411 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 2: super competitor. But yeah, I think those two boys deserve 412 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: some respect for sure. 413 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: Mccambley former guest on our pod earlier this year, and yeah, 414 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: he had a probably even a better year than we hoped, 415 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: like his first year in Pro Bowl, already making to 416 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: double a as a starter as we went through this 417 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: year with the trade, and what I also gloss over 418 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: is at the start of the year getting assigned to 419 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: hi A Vancouver and then then getting assigned to New Hampshire, 420 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: then getting traded and spring training before that and where 421 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: are you during the off season. You're back in. 422 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 2: Texas, Austin, Texas. 423 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, so you tried all around the country during 424 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: this type of year, and as you know, moving forward 425 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: that they're trying to that part doesn't get easier, I 426 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: guess for my early years. But the fact that the 427 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: Major League teams finally committed to covering the expenses and 428 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the stresses of housing moving forward, that's supposed to be 429 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: a big change heading in to the twenty twenty two 430 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: season for someone coming off this season like you did, 431 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: moving to three different corners of the country. Uh. I 432 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: was wondering if you could, like just give some perspective on, uh, 433 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: how how stressful that may have been at times this 434 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: year and how much easier you think it would be 435 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: having supportive Major League teams in a way that there 436 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: hasn't been in the past, right. 437 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean, So for me, I got I got lucky. 438 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: I got really lucky. Like you said, I went to 439 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: Hia to start the year, and I was shipped out 440 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: of there before I ever found housing. So like I 441 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: had an apartment deal kind of set up to move into, 442 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: but before I was able to even move into there, 443 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: I was up to New New Hampshire. That was that 444 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: was tougher housing. We stayed in like a team like 445 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: a hotel like at the at the Field, and we 446 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: paid for it, got a little team discount, and that was, 447 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, pretty expensive to stay at a hotel. But 448 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: like we made it work, you know, you know what 449 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: you're kind of getting into with this with this life. 450 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: And then when I was traded to Pensacola or to 451 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: to the Marlins, and I was in Pensacola, I just 452 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: got lucky. My grandfather happens to have a house there, 453 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: so I was able to move in there and take 454 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: advantage of that and kind of save some money on rent. 455 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 2: But like for guys who don't have that option, it's tough, man, 456 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: It's tough. You get eight guys in the house sometimes, 457 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: you know. And I don't think that's like, you know, 458 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 2: the org's fault or anything. That's how it's been for 459 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: so long. But I think it's it's saying, you know, 460 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: it's it's an understatement how how much it helps us. 461 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 2: The MLB and organizations are stepping up the way they 462 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: are to take care of housing for us because it's 463 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: gonna make those transitions way easier. I mean, especially for 464 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: guys that aren't like myself and had that lucky, you know, 465 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: fall into your lap situation. So I think it's gonna 466 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 2: be a great thing for the game and great for 467 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: US minor league guys for sure. 468 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think you could overstate how convenient them 469 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: must have been. 470 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 471 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: I was in Pensacola in that exact city. 472 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: Literally, so like the fields on the uh like, it 473 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: was probably twenty minutes from the field Max. Yeah, and 474 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 2: some guys unfortunately had to live like I don't know 475 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: if you're familiar with that little area, but some guys 476 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: were having to live, you know, forty five minutes away 477 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 2: and pretty do key just because it's hard to find 478 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 2: like summer housing in that area, you know what I mean, 479 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: in that little pocket, people are wanting to be there 480 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: all summer. People are renting their airbnbs for way more 481 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: in that time, you know how it is. And so 482 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: guys were having to live a pretty good distance from 483 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 2: the field. That's probably the biggest you know issue, was 484 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: having to drive forty five into an hour just to 485 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 2: get to work every day. 486 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. I did see a couple people with that exact 487 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: complaint about that hell, it was set up, but uh yeah, 488 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: I'm just glad. I mean, let's all wait on this 489 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: specifics exactly how that works, but. 490 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: You're not sure, but yeah, yeah, but I think it's 491 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: gonna be a great name regardless, right, free Housing's free housing. 492 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly. Let's spind it forward a little bit 493 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: as we close this, U what was were there any 494 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: particular things that anybody in the organization told you to 495 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: work on this offseason or things that you yourself prioritize thinking 496 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: that you'll need to do this, this and this if 497 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: you want to be able to get guys out at 498 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: the higher levels. 499 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think I know the one thing that Order 500 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: for sure wants me to work on developing that change 501 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: up right, getting that, you know, solidified like my third pitch, 502 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: and then other than that, really just bringing that walk 503 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 2: right down by you know, a batter for nine one 504 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 2: and a half or nine, like it was a tad 505 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 2: too high, and I think that was mainly because of 506 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: one little stretch in time. We fixed that towards the end, 507 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: but just showing that, hey, we're going to be in 508 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 2: the zone, we're gonna be competitive, and we've got a 509 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: three pitch mix. I think once I do that, and 510 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: you know, the skuy's a limit. But got to prove 511 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: to the org that we developed that pitch this offseason 512 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: and got better for sure. 513 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any place you'd rather be if 514 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: you have to develop a change of right in this 515 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: organization in particular, we've seen guys graduate to the big 516 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: league level with great change ups from Pablo Lopez six 517 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: though Sanchez, Sandy l Contra, guys guys you played with 518 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: that have pretty nasty changes as well. That that's I 519 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: can't really put my finger on it, but that is 520 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: like one particular thing that they've shown, like again and 521 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 1: again and again, they they can they can get guys 522 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 1: to to do it like it was for you. Like, 523 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: is it simply a matter of repetition you think that's 524 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: gonna get that done? Or any other particular tips that 525 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: they give you about the change that they think is 526 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: going to translate for you. 527 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 2: I mean we talk about, you know, certain finger pressures 528 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: and stuff. But they trust me, Uh it's it's a 529 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: repetition thing. Mainly, they trust me to know that I'm 530 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 2: gonna come home this offseason and figure out what it 531 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: takes to fix that pitch. Right to make it a 532 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: playable pitch. They gave me a few different grips to 533 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: play with and stuff like that, but they're not, you know, 534 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: they're not trying to give me a one way, you know, 535 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: one size fits all change up or anything throughout the 536 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: org there. They'll leave it open for me to kind of, 537 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 2: you know, tinker with and stuff. But for me, I'm 538 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: not a big finesse guy. The grip is kind of 539 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: important for me. That's why I've been going with a 540 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: vulcan change so I can kind of just grip it 541 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: and let it rip and I don't have to think much. 542 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: Some guys can, you know, be a little more finesse 543 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: with it, so it's all different. But yeah, for me, 544 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: it's a repetition thing. Come home this offseason, wrap it out, 545 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: get comfortable with it, and let it play in the game. 546 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: The last thing to mention is that if they are 547 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: like prioritizing this third pitch for you, and you think 548 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: it's important, like that's usually something you focus on if 549 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: you're a starting pitcher, and for you, since entsoring Pro Bowl, 550 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: it seems that you've been on this pretty clear track 551 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: as a reliever, and that's I mean, how you were 552 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: used this entire year. Where you at with what how 553 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: you see yourself moving forward? Is it? Is it really 554 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: as simple as just focusing on being the best reliever 555 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: you can or do you think that if this third 556 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: pitch comes along? I obviously you started going back to college. 557 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's had something that you're still motivated and 558 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: hopeful to get back to. 559 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: Right now, I wouldn't say I'm motivated and hopeful to 560 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: be kind a starter again. Like I like being a reliever. 561 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the mindset of like coming in blow doors, 562 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 2: like you know, aggressive, I don't have to save anything, 563 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: right that being said, Like I didn't say I had 564 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 2: to stop at one inning, right Like I'll go for 565 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: two three innings if you let me. I know there 566 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: was a there was an outing early in the year 567 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: when I was with New Hampshire when our starter got 568 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: hurt and I went like four and two thirds or 569 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: something like that, and I felt like I was getting stronger. 570 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: My vela was actually peeking a little bit towards the 571 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 2: end of it, So I think I could do it 572 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 2: for sure. I guess that's just where I'm at, Like 573 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 2: within my belief in myself, I don't see any issue 574 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: why I couldn't pitch for longer, you know, in the game. 575 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: But right now I'm in the bullpen and I'm focusing 576 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: on being you know, the best, you know, the best 577 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: I can be in the bullpen and being a valuable 578 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: piece in the bullpen. You know what I'm saying. I 579 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: know that's where my my spot is right now, and 580 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 2: so I'm focused on that. 581 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: And you did finish off a bunch of games this 582 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: past year, but I don't think he got credited with 583 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: a save yet. Are you somebody that puts a certain 584 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: premium on that role? I know baseball as a whole, 585 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: and this is something that I mean, me personally haven't opened. 586 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: The Marlins move in this direction too, where they don't 587 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: focus too much on who gets credited with the save 588 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: that the most important endings are sometimes obviously before the 589 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: ninth when the leverage is higher. Is so, is that 590 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: a particular goal for you to be the guy that 591 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: closes out the games? Or you? It seems that you 592 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: have like a more new age mindset about that. 593 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, would it be cool to have that title? Yeah? Obviously, right, 594 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: Like everybody wants the title of like closer you know 595 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: what I mean. And it's more respect thing too, because 596 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: like you know that the team is trusting you with 597 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: that situation, you know, closing out the game. But like 598 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 2: you said, there's big situations in the sixth inning, seventh inning, 599 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: high leverage moments late in the game that aren't the 600 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: ninth inning, right, And so for me, I don't care 601 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: when I pitch, you know, I just want to when 602 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: the team calls on me, I want them to know 603 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 2: and have confidence and I'm going to do my job. 604 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: And whenever that is, I'm ready to go. It could 605 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 2: be the third inning, first inning, seventh inning, ninth inning. 606 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: It makes no difference to me. I'll be ready. So 607 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: I think that's the kind of mindset that most guys 608 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: in the bull been have. You know, we're kind of 609 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: just on edge at all times. But no, the title's cool, 610 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 2: but not needed at all. 611 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish More has said that mindset for you. Honestly, 612 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: with the Marlins in particular, they've kind of, at least 613 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: at the major league level, they kind of fall into 614 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: that trap where it's back to bite them sometimes when 615 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: you don't get adjusted, when you don't adjust and when 616 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: you don't worry about actually putting guys in the most 617 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: particular situation where they can be most successful. But this 618 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: has been Andrew macnvale right hand fitcher. But for the Marlins, 619 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: I think it's twenty twenty two really within reach of 620 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: reaching the big leagues despite being drafted in a round 621 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: that it's not going to exist moving forward. It's been 622 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: a pretty great story for you or just reached this point. 623 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: And I mean I was saying it at the time. 624 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: All due respect to Joe Panic and what he accomplished 625 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: in his career, but at the time of that trade, 626 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: it was pretty clear that you were the guy that 627 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: the Marlins prioritized the most in that deal. That for 628 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,239 Speaker 1: them to make that trade, it was showing a lot 629 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: of confidence in the type of picture that you could 630 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: be moving forward. No pressure, but I think they do 631 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence in what he could do 632 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: moving forward. And it was a lot of fun watching 633 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: you pitches past season, and it was great gang to 634 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: know you a little bit better here on the pod. 635 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: So thanks man, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. 636 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: You could follow him on Twitter at Andrew mcinveil on 637 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: Instagram at Andrew Mcinveiale twenty one look forward to seeing 638 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: how the rest of this off season goes, and follow 639 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes obviously on all our jillion different platforms. Make 640 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: sure you continue to subscribe to the same pod feed. 641 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: In addition to earning the stripes, we've got all our 642 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: other programmings on the same convenient spot for all you guys, 643 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: including more interviews hopefully with players just like Andrew. So 644 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: I've been Eli Susman here on earning their stripes. As always, 645 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: go Fish