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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a fun one for you tonight. Summer Show Mini Camp

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Speaker 2: way back, way back behind the car. We're driving through

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Speaker 2: this summer set of weeks here until we get you

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Speaker 2: to training camp. Jonathan Alexander is going to join us

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Speaker 2: in about thirty minutes from now from the Houston Chronicle.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk all things Texans and then some and Johnny

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Speaker 2: Good evening.

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Speaker 1: How you doing good?

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Speaker 3: It is really kind of an interesting part of the

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Speaker 3: year college Ruld series over which I loved watching.

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Speaker 1: NBA finals are over.

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Speaker 3: We do have the draft taking place, but the Rockets

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Speaker 3: obviously got rid of pick number ten, so don't really

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Speaker 3: have to pay attention until the last pick of the draft.

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Speaker 1: I think, if I remembering.

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Speaker 3: Correctly, they have mister Irrelevant in this NBA draft, which

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Speaker 3: is kind of interesting to have.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: All that takes place and we're just kind of waiting.

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Speaker 3: June twenty fourth, we're getting close. I would think, well,

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Speaker 3: we're less than a month away from when we know

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Speaker 3: the rookies in veterans report the reporting July twenty second,

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Speaker 3: we know that we don't know what, they practice starts,

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Speaker 3: but we're less than a month from them reporting back here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm thinking that. I'm thinking they practice the

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Speaker 1: next day.

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Speaker 2: I think that's usually the situation, and that's been reported

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Speaker 2: by NFL Network that they report on the twenty second

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Speaker 2: of July. So I feel pretty safe to say that

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Speaker 2: we are within a month of the first scheduled practice.

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Speaker 2: How about that. That's pretty cool. I got a lot

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Speaker 2: to do before that, got a lot to do and

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Speaker 2: a lot to organize get ready. But it's a weird

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Speaker 2: time of your sports wise, because yes, the Astros are playing,

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Speaker 2: but it's just strange. You mentioned College World Series, some

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Speaker 2: aka Cobra Kai is very interesting, So.

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on Cobra Kai. It's kind of Cobra Kai.

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Speaker 1: Is it is?

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Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of infighting and rivalries. And she

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Speaker 2: said this, and she did that, Johnny, and who's all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Sophie Cunningham is a huge star, is

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Speaker 2: massive star, huge star.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, you know, she.

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Speaker 2: Looks like she's six eight or something. I know, but

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Speaker 2: she's not very six to one. Yeah, but she looks

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Speaker 2: but that's tall compared to a lot of women. Right,

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Speaker 2: of course she walks in like all legs and high

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Speaker 1: Right, and my nieces actually look a little like her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Vander girls, because my brother's six seven and

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Speaker 2: my nieces are all three girls. They're like five eleven

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Speaker 1: And now everyone's gonna want their number.

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Speaker 2: No, they're my nieces. And by the way, we've got

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Speaker 2: to clean up a couple of things from tomorrow show.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to hot takes in a moment. It's hot

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Speaker 2: take Tuesday and Jonathan Alexander at about six thirty. But

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Speaker 2: from yesterday, Drew Doherty wade in on a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: He said, you forgot about the Randy Johnson trade with

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Speaker 3: Wasn't gonna get all the trade. Well, you're gonna get

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Speaker 3: all of them. We mentioned the major ones. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: wasn't get any.

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Speaker 2: Johnson was a big one. But they didn't do anything

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Speaker 2: in the postseason. They had a great regular season. They

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Speaker 2: went over one hundred games after they acquired Randy Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Also Clyde Drexler the second championship team, because you'll acquire

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Speaker 2: And that wasn't all because of him, but he was

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Speaker 2: a key part of that team, no doubt, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna get all of them, but I wanted

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Speaker 3: to at least pay homage to a city that has made.

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Speaker 1: Some major, major deals.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the city has made a ton of really

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Speaker 3: big trades in the three major sports. And it was,

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Speaker 3: was gonna take a little bit longer for the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: It's incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean think about the Rockets, you know, and it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like the Texans too. You know, in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two, nobody, nobody in their right mind could have

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Speaker 3: But if you go back and look at what the

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Speaker 3: to make the Will Anderson trade, and we know how

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Speaker 3: important that trade was to everything, and those moves have

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Speaker 3: paid off for those two organizations. Rockets in the Texas

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Speaker 3: for sure, But look, I wasn't meaning to leave out

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Speaker 3: the Astros, and that was a huge move for Randy Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Huge. Yes, seems so good.

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Speaker 3: Of all the trades that have been made, the players

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Speaker 3: But I don't know if anyone was so good immediately

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Speaker 1: So he was incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was unbelievable. Yeah, he's Randy Johnson. Randy Johnson,

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Speaker 2: he was he also brought up Drew did Damarius Thomas

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Speaker 2: for the Texans. But that's not a huge trade, no,

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Speaker 2: but it was a needed trade. He traded a fourth

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Speaker 2: of catches and it's a big win. Ye It was

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Speaker 2: very nice game winning streak for the Texans. That is

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Speaker 2: the longest winning streak in the history of the franchise.

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Speaker 2: Love to break that record this year.

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Speaker 3: Gave up a fourth a fourth and the timing of

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Speaker 3: that and what way fine fastening about fascinating about that

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Speaker 3: is the trade deadline was.

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Speaker 2: I think a Tuesday. I think it was a Tuesday. Okay, Tuesday, yeh,

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Speaker 2: that sounds right.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We had played the previous week on a Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: Either way, he gets pulled down.

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Speaker 3: They know before the weekend is out he's torn his

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Speaker 3: the weekend to do something. Now, if that happens on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: you don't have money. Now you're waiting for Monday. So

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Speaker 3: not that timing is you know, timing is never perfect,

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Speaker 3: But in that unfortunate situation, the fact that we were

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Speaker 3: playing on that Thursday night gave GM Bryan Gain at.

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Speaker 1: The time, the opportunity to go and get Demarius.

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Speaker 3: And they've been talk about the Marius being moved, so

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Speaker 3: I know the Broncos were were ready and I just

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Speaker 3: remember asking Brian about that move and the one thing

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Speaker 3: he said, this kind of stays with me, and it

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Speaker 3: makes every time we have Nick Cassario in here and

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Speaker 1: I remember Brian said, yeah, John Elway made.

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Speaker 3: It really easy to get this deal done, and they

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Speaker 3: just made me think about relationships.

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Speaker 1: Two to tango. Yeah, and obviously.

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Speaker 3: You need two to tango, but just having relationships with

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Speaker 3: more people throughout the league are going to make those

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Speaker 3: deals that much easier. They trust you, they trust that

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Speaker 3: you're not trying to fleece them and that you're just

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Speaker 3: trying to make a deal that's good for the Texans,

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Speaker 3: it's good for your team, and we come together and

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Speaker 3: find out that right deal and a way we go. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean Nick had no idea that Sean Watson was

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Speaker 1: No, you know, no, no way.

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Speaker 3: Years later you can look at it and go, you're like,

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Speaker 3: oh man, he fleeced the Browns. Yeah, well that's in

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Speaker 3: the Browns because Deshan Watson was hot garbage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was going to be a situation where

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Speaker 2: But because they least so much into it, we could

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Speaker 3: Had a good twenty twenty three yeah, and gotten them

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Speaker 1: Was at, well, you got hurt. It had flo Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Guy looked so good it's hard to fathom it's the

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Speaker 2: same individual. But the twenty twenty three Browns reminds you that, hey,

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Speaker 2: they had a winning season.

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Speaker 1: They went to the postseason. Yeah, they the.

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Speaker 2: Regular Yeah, the regular season really good here, So that

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Speaker 2: have Joe Flacco back, and we'll see standers and all that,

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Speaker 2: and they're part of a very interesting mix in the

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Speaker 2: AFC North. Let's get to this hot take Tuesday, love this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna rate the hot takes here. Joe, Oh,

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Speaker 2: this is my favorite year. We're going to get a change.

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Speaker 2: I get to give the sizzle fires. Yeah, you get

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Speaker 2: to give the sizzle fires. Analyze. I'll give you the

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Speaker 2: hot take. You tell me how hot it is. In

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Speaker 2: other words, the more sizzle fires, the hotter it is,

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Speaker 2: the more unlikely it is.

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Speaker 1: If you will.

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Speaker 2: Hot take Tuesday, let's go. That's our hot take. Sounder

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Speaker 2: love it. Yeah, it's a blow torch that Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: here's your hot take, the first one in the AFC South.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones will have a better season than Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: How many sizzle fires on this one?

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Speaker 1: Four and a half? Four and a half. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: not that crazy. There's stats are very similar.

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Speaker 2: You see the graphic half I he's got Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 2: running the rock.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 3: I look it's all relative too, because Trevor can throw

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Speaker 3: for thirty nine hundred yards and thirty touchdowns and Daniel

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Speaker 3: Jones could throw for twenty eight hundred and twenty touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: It's still a better year just because he's been better

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Speaker 3: with the football, not as you know, yolo with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this could be a qualitative rating, right because I

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Speaker 2: think quantitative.

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Speaker 3: It could might depending on how the Colts put together

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Speaker 3: think is gonna try and do with Trevor Lawrence, and

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Speaker 3: look the Jacks get behind in games. Trevor's gom pad

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Speaker 1: Now. Look, you know I don't want him to. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Trevor had anything better than Baker

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he kind of got hot in year two.

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Speaker 1: But he's never had Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 3: And Liam Cohen turned Baker Mayfield into something I think

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Speaker 2: Okay, another hot take, Hot take Tuesday. How many saysel

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Speaker 2: yards than Travis Etn now etn last year five point

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Speaker 2: running the rock in Jacksonville. Yeah, Pierce two and change,

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Speaker 2: still racking up some yards. So you're dealing with two

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's pushing the boundaries of four to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I feel like you can't give up

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Speaker 3: Well, there's that part, But the other part is that

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Speaker 3: and it was like Damien didn't even get that opportunity,

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Speaker 1: The end of the year in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville, Okay, we'll see my hot fresh eyes there, yeah, Liam,

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Speaker 2: Next hot take, the Dallas Cowboys make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: How many Sazzel fires?

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Speaker 3: I must say about three and a half because I

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Speaker 3: don't think it's crazy, but I think the division's tough

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Speaker 1: Here's what has to do.

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Speaker 1: They weren't great.

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Speaker 2: They won seven games last year. If they get to ten,

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Speaker 1: The Packers made the playoffs. With eleven.

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Speaker 2: The Vikings had fourteen wins. They're not winning fourteen this year,

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Speaker 2: Schottenheimer calling plays? See, I don't like that. If he is,

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Speaker 1: That the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: The only way I saw that really working well, potentially working,

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Speaker 1: But if he's not, he's.

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Speaker 3: Got you know, he's got the connection with Dak not.

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Speaker 1: That I ever got. I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think Brian Schottenheimer ends up being a guy that

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Speaker 1: That it's tough. That's tough. I mean, de Miko will

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Speaker 3: Just calling defensive plays and then being the head ball coach,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's calling the plays. I got it right here.

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Speaker 1: They got to protect him, they got to be better.

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Speaker 3: But they drafted Booker, the guy that I lusted over,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a defense that gets unfortunately lit up

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Speaker 2: Okay, another hot take on Hot Take Tuesday, Xavier Worthy,

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Speaker 2: We'll have more catches than Travis Kelcey in Kansas City.

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Speaker 2: Now Worthy really good last year with sub sixty receptions.

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Speaker 1: But were these on the rise now? He's not a

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Speaker 2: and he was telling the co host vic Rucci, how

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Speaker 2: You're getting hit every play virtually and all of that.

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Speaker 1: They want to spread it around.

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Speaker 2: So how hot a take is that that Kelsey is

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Speaker 1: I can get that. You know, he can get that.

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Speaker 1: He can get that pass.

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Speaker 3: to be like ninety for seven thirty five.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what he's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: But I think Worthy he's got a chance to be

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Speaker 3: sixty five seventy for twelve fifty, whereas he's got less receptions,

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Speaker 3: but the yardage going deep screen that he catches and

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Speaker 3: takes for fifty yards, those kind of things, I think

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Speaker 3: xavier're Worthy is gonna have more so than Kelsey. So

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Speaker 3: I still think Kelsey leads them in receptions. I still

447
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Speaker 3: think that Mahomes wants to go to him. But I

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Speaker 3: think this is the last year that happens. I think

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Speaker 3: this is the last year. I do think by the

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Speaker 3: end of the year, you're really gonna see even more

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Speaker 3: decline from Kelsey, thankfully, and then one of those receivers

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Speaker 3: steps up, and maybe it's receiver by committee, maybe all

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Speaker 3: of them.

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Speaker 1: Catch you over.

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Speaker 3: She Rice catches sixty Worthy has sixty five, and that's

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Speaker 3: how they go about their business the next few years.

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Speaker 3: But I think the yardage for Worthy is gonna be

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Speaker 3: a problem for teams, including the Texans. I think it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be five catches a game for one point twenty two.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be four catches in this game for one

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Speaker 3: oh three, it's gonna be seven for ninety nine. He's

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Speaker 3: gonna have those kind of games. He might have a

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Speaker 3: game where he has two catches but it's gonna go

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Speaker 3: forty five yards and one on one for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He might have those games too. So I think it's

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Speaker 3: not the receptions for Worthy. It's gonna be the big

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Speaker 3: chunk plays in the yardage and the long touchdowns. So

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Speaker 3: for fantasy, you lose on on points per reception, but

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get it back in yards and touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: I think, Okay, here's another one for you as we

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Speaker 2: do hot take Tuesday, and this is gonna be a

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Speaker 2: good one, Final football one, and I'm gonna run this

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Speaker 2: by Jonathan as well when we have mine. In the

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Speaker 2: next segment, the Pittsburgh Steelers will miss the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: have a sub five hundred season with Aaron Rodgers at

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Speaker 2: the Helm, sub five hundred year Johnny eight and nine

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Speaker 2: or worse. I don't want to see it for Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin because I like Mike Tomlin and I like them

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Speaker 2: messing up the Ravens and Bengals and just clogging that

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Speaker 2: whole thing up in the AFC North to pave the

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Speaker 2: way for the Texans.

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Speaker 1: A little bit. Think it's nuts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: That's a two. I think that division is really good.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens are the most talented team in that division.

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Speaker 3: Bengals have everybody back offensively, defensively, I think they're that much.

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Speaker 3: They gotta have Trey Henderson back, so I don't know

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Speaker 3: how they how they work that. They need Shamar Stewart,

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Speaker 3: So they got to get out of their own way

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Speaker 3: and get that deal signed and get Shamar Stewart in

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Speaker 3: a training camp so he doesn't miss time and they

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Speaker 3: can get it an effective edge guy opposite Hendrickson.

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Speaker 1: So if they can do that, yeah, the Bengals are salty.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I believe

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Speaker 3: in the Bengals are going to be thirteen and four.

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Speaker 3: But I think the Bengals are going to be a

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Speaker 3: solid ten and seven, and that's gonna put them on

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Speaker 3: the cusp of Okay wildcard, where they fit in the

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Speaker 3: wild card all that kind of stuff. I just think

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Speaker 3: the Steelers are a year older defensively.

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Speaker 1: TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt doesn't have his deal done. He was even banged

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Speaker 3: up last year. Alex Highsmith was banged up last year.

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Speaker 3: Cameron Hayward is like fifty eight years old now. Minka

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Speaker 3: is really their only other true like big time baller

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Speaker 3: and defense. So I'm like, I think team can take

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Speaker 3: advantage of that defense more this year, which puts more

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Speaker 3: pressure on Rodgers and the offense.

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Speaker 1: And I don't think that's where that team wants to be.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think it's out of the round possibility

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Speaker 3: of them being eight to nine. I really don't, even

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Speaker 3: though they want what they want last year ten with

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, I just don't. I don't know that this

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Speaker 3: offense can take a significant leap, even with Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 3: because I think there's gonna be too much pressure on

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Speaker 3: them that have to do it, because I think the

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Speaker 3: defense is gonna start to show some cracks in the Armor.

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Speaker 2: Okay, one final hot take on Hot Take Tuesday. Ted

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Speaker 2: Lasso is the best show on television to come out

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Speaker 2: since its release, and I'll add one to it. Cobra

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Speaker 2: Kai is second. I don't think it's as good as

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Speaker 2: ted Lasso, but it's really d Do you think it's

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Speaker 2: better than ted Lasso in some ways?

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Speaker 3: No, I think ted Lasso is ted Lasso is ahead

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Speaker 3: of it barely, not by much. But I'll tell you

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Speaker 3: this show that I like more than those other two

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Speaker 3: since since uh tu Lasso came out?

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Speaker 1: O the Bear? Oh you like that? Incredible? If that's

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Speaker 1: the cooking one? Yeah, yeah, it's incredible.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Allen White, who, by the way, Jeremy Allen White

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Speaker 3: gonna play Springsteen?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I saw in the new biopic Parents. I saw this. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I haven't watched all of Dylan yet. I really

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Speaker 2: need you need to watch Sam is incredible. Jeremy Allen

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Speaker 2: White is Springsteen?

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Now, I don't know about the voice all that, I

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Speaker 3: don't I don't know, but the look and just him

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Speaker 3: on stage, and you know, it's just the way that

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Speaker 3: Springsteen moves and how energetic he is.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that one.

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Speaker 3: I love Jeremy Allen White because he's he is He's

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Speaker 3: the Bear, you know, he's he's that guy in the Bear,

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Speaker 3: and so I love Jeremy Allen White, but that show

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Speaker 3: has it has humor. The greatest single TV episode that

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Speaker 3: I have I can remember seeing in the last eight

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Speaker 3: to ten years, at least, going dating back to Breaking

550
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Speaker 3: Batter Better Call Saul is the Christmas episode I think

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Speaker 3: it was in season three of.

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Speaker 1: The Bear of the Bear on Market's Unbelievable. It is.

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Speaker 3: It's a Christmas episode that's got some guest stars in it,

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Speaker 3: and Jamie Lee Curtis plays their bipolar. She's their mother,

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Speaker 3: She's bipolar, and it is. I got done with the

556
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Speaker 3: episode and I literally just stood up. I started clapping.

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Speaker 1: It's that good, It's I gotta watch the show. What's

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Speaker 1: the uh Hulu? I think Hulu is what I thought

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Speaker 1: on Yeah, it was a different platform.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there have been some good TV shows, but I

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Speaker 3: do love those.

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Speaker 1: I do love those two Bears. Incredible. You know what

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Speaker 1: Cobra Kaya is It's our high school reunion. It is.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's a totally high school reunion show. And that's what

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Speaker 2: it feels like.

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Speaker 3: You're seeing all all your high school kids, all the

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Speaker 3: kids of the kids, like their kids are over here

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Speaker 3: having their party, and the high school reunion is over

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Speaker 3: here having their party.

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Speaker 1: It's wonderful. It's so good.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's a blend of all of that which

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Speaker 3: has made it made it such a fun.

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Speaker 2: And you know what else here here's another take on

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Speaker 2: Cobra Kai. It's kind of Jameis Winston like, they throw

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Speaker 2: some picks. I mean, there's some things where I'm like,

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Speaker 2: come on, but they score so much, they throw so

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Speaker 2: many touchdowns. You're just so pleased with so much of

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Speaker 2: what happens that you overlook some of the flaws in

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Speaker 2: the program, because there are some.

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Speaker 1: I mean, let's just be honest. But Ted Lasso is amazing. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Is there gonna be a season four? I don't know. Maybe, right,

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Speaker 1: I've heard rumors. Yeah, so let's get but I don't

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Speaker 1: know what rumors. Let's get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, And let's get Jonathan Alexander in here

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Speaker 2: from the Houston Chronicle, Talk Texans, It's next here on

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Speaker 2: Texans Radio. Back to it here on Texans Radio. Mark

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Speaker 2: Vandermer and John Harris with you, and it's Tuesday at

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Speaker 2: around six thirty, and you know what that means. It's

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Speaker 2: time for Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle and Jonathan Welcome.

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Speaker 2: I had this question thrown at me today from an

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Speaker 2: out of town media person, and they said.

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Speaker 1: What's this offense gonna look like? What's it gonna look like?

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Speaker 2: Hey, I got a new offensive coordinator and never mind personnel.

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Speaker 2: I get it, there's some new offensive linemen and whatever,

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Speaker 2: you drafted receivers, you signed Nick Chubb, But what's the

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Speaker 2: offense gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: What's your answer to that question, Jonathan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the biggest mystery.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: You know Nick Kyley on multiple kasions, we've asked him

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Speaker 5: about that, and he did you to say it's gonna

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Speaker 5: be the Houston Texans offense. What I do know is

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Speaker 5: whatever this offense will look like, it'll be centered around CJ.

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Speaker 5: Stroud and insinuate in accentuating his strengths as a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I think that was Damiko Ryan's primary objective and looking

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Speaker 5: for offensive coordinators. He was looking for somebody who could

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Speaker 5: help him, looking for somebody with a strong run game

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Speaker 5: and somebody who could who had experience in offensive lines.

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Speaker 5: And Kaylee obviously had that experience with tight ends and fullbacks,

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Speaker 5: So you know, I don't think it'll look dissimilar to

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Speaker 5: what we saw last year. I think it'll it'll be

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Speaker 5: probably look a little bit similar, but with Kaylee's own

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Speaker 5: spin to it.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan, it's been interesting the last I don't know, a

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks or so, as we've gotten into the offseason,

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Speaker 3: a lot of lists season, a lot of people talking

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Speaker 3: about quarterback rankings and where the quarterback's ranking, CJ's ranking is.

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Speaker 3: I don't say, all over the board, but it's been

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Speaker 3: interesting to hear the dialogue.

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Speaker 1: And I can't remember who I heard said this.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask you straight out because this person said,

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Speaker 3: I actually think his second year might have been better

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Speaker 3: than his first year. I don't know if I can

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Speaker 3: go all the way there, but is it overblown the

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Speaker 3: sophomore slump if you will, as I do fingers and

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Speaker 3: air quotes that CJ had that it was more about

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Speaker 3: what was around him not performing at that level and

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Speaker 3: CJ actually doing what he could to basically save any

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Speaker 3: situation he was in.

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Speaker 1: How doe you kind of look back at that and

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Speaker 1: how do.

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Speaker 3: You think it changes what's the key to changing it

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Speaker 3: is as simple as just getting him protected by a

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Speaker 3: good offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I looking back, even in the moment, I think,

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Speaker 5: especially early on in last season, you know, I thought

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Speaker 5: CJ had taken his game as a quarterback to another level.

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Speaker 4: You know, he was going through multiple progressions.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't throwing as many risky balls as he did

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Speaker 5: in his rookie season, and his rookie season there were

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Speaker 5: a lot of interceptions that didn't get caught, So I

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Speaker 5: thought he had improved.

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Speaker 4: As a quarterback.

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Speaker 5: I thought as the year went on, and as he

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Speaker 5: began to get hit more and more and more, he

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Speaker 5: started to be a little bit hesitant in throwing some

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Speaker 5: of the certain passes that he was unafraid to make

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Speaker 5: when he was a rookie, and I think that contributed

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Speaker 5: to a lot of his struggles the offensive line. There's

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Speaker 5: so much pressure. There was a lot that he couldn't control.

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Speaker 4: But overall, as a.

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Speaker 5: Quarterback, I thought he was a lot more polished as

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Speaker 5: a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: And I think if they can protect.

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Speaker 5: Him this year, you'll see a lot of that in

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Speaker 5: his improvements happen in year three.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan, we were going over the running back room during

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Speaker 2: a show last week and Johnny and I. I think

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Speaker 2: somebody mocked us as well a little bit, but they

661
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Speaker 2: sympathized as well. It's hard to figure out mocking us.

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Speaker 2: I don't know some dude on Twitter, who else, whatever,

663
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Speaker 2: X whatever anyway, but they were saying, oh, you like everybody,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to cut anybody. Well, yeah, I do

665
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Speaker 2: like everybody. Okay, it's May June, like everybody. We got

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Speaker 2: to see how it shakes out in training camp. But

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Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a really interesting

668
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Speaker 2: situation here because you drafted Woody Marks for a reason,

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Speaker 2: yet here's Dara still able to make plays for you.

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Speaker 1: How do you see it? Not just those guys, but.

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Speaker 2: The general group here between Pearce Chubb mix in. Assuming

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Speaker 2: everybody's healthy, this is gonna be a real tough cut,

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Speaker 2: tough decisions on the way.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the only person guaranteed to make the

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Speaker 5: roster is Joe Mixon. You know, I think Woody Marx

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Speaker 5: has a good chance to make the roster, and now

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Speaker 5: would consider him the second best chance because he was

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Speaker 5: a fourth round pick. You invest so much into that

679
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Speaker 5: fourth round pick that you at least want to give

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Speaker 5: them one year and then after that. I think it's

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Speaker 5: almost equal at this point. You know, of course Dari

682
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Speaker 5: has a lot of value as a special teams guy,

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Speaker 5: can catch it out of the backfield. But you know,

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Speaker 5: with the addition of these extra guys, he's right now

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Speaker 5: he's only relegated to special teams. Damian Pierce number two back,

686
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Speaker 5: but Nick Chubb could also do it, also returns kicks,

687
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Speaker 5: but they now have multiple options. And Nick Chubb is

688
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Speaker 5: a potential number two back, but he doesn't really play

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Speaker 5: special teams. So all three of those guys, particularly Chubb, Pierce,

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Speaker 5: and the have strikes against them. I think it'll I

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Speaker 5: think it'll come down to training camp, who stands out more,

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Speaker 5: who can do multiple and who stays the healthiest.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Jonathan Alexander and Houston Chronicle, Jonathan a player

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Speaker 3: to me that is intriguing as I'll get out, because

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Speaker 3: I just I feel like we saw some much better

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Speaker 3: play out of him last year at a position. I

697
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Speaker 3: don't think people thought he's gonna play, and that's j Scruggs,

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Speaker 3: Juice gonna play center. He played center and then got

699
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Speaker 3: banged up, and then Jarrett stepped in, and then Juice

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Speaker 3: stepped in at guard when Shaq got hurt, and then

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Speaker 3: in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: Game they went back to Shaq. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I would have gone with Juice, but that's I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So now Kolepopovich comes into the offensive line coach. Is

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Speaker 3: Juice as center? Is he a guard? He's a former

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Speaker 3: second round pick, And I know there's a lot there's

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Speaker 3: always talk about, well, you know, you can't go on

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Speaker 3: what they were where they were drafted. It's not getting done,

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Speaker 3: not getting done. But I feel like there were times

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Speaker 3: where Juice was doing some good things and getting some

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Speaker 3: things done, especially Week thirteen at Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Then he got hurt in that game, missed a couple

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Speaker 1: of games. Your thoughts about what the path.

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Speaker 3: Is for Juice Scrugs in twenty twenty five, What do

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Speaker 3: you forecast for him this year on an offensive line?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think his best path to the field is

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Speaker 5: being multiple improving his game at both center and guard.

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Speaker 5: You know, I was very shocked to see them go

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Speaker 5: back to shak Mason because I thought Juwe Scruggs had

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Speaker 5: a couple of really good games the Titans game and

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Speaker 5: the Chargers game where the offensive line was at his best,

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Speaker 5: so to see Demico go back to or Bobby Swyk,

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Speaker 5: whoever made that decision to go back to shak Mason

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Speaker 5: was a little bit of a mystery. So I do

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Speaker 5: think he's put good things on tape at guard, and

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Speaker 5: I think they have the option there. I was a

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Speaker 5: little bit surprised that they've had Laken and Titus Hour

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Speaker 5: run first team and not see Juice Scrugs run with

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Speaker 5: the first team, but obviously training camp there's a long

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Speaker 5: way to go.

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Speaker 4: Guys have to stay healthy.

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Speaker 5: But I think he'll have a shot and I could

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Speaker 5: see him being one of the first guys up to

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Speaker 5: play that spot.

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Speaker 4: And it's going to be important because.

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Speaker 5: Off his lineman, with all the weight they have, they

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Speaker 5: tend to get hurt pretty often, so you're gonna need him.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Alexander of The Chronicle joining us Jonathan linebacker. If

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Speaker 2: everybody's healthy, you got Christian Harris, you got Henry TOTOA.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've got a lot of guys to choose

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Speaker 2: from here, obviously A Z's and our buddy Jake Hanson.

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Speaker 2: But you signed DJ Speed. How does ejs Speed fit

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Speaker 2: in to this defense with a fully healthy linebacker corps?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, the fully healthy linebacker corps.

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Speaker 5: I think he's the number four linebacker, could come in

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Speaker 5: on sub packages, probably on goal line type formations. He

747
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Speaker 5: was a guy who had a lot of tackles last year,

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Speaker 5: hundred and foy five tackles. He struggled a ton with

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Speaker 5: the Colts in coverage, so you won't see him obvious

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Speaker 5: passing downs unless there's a couple of injuries that you

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Speaker 5: need him to play, unless he's improved that significantly, but

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Speaker 5: I think that remains to be seen. I think he

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Speaker 5: was really valued for his special teams play, so I

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Speaker 5: definitely see him playing heavily on special teams. So I

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Speaker 5: see him as a big special teams player and a

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Speaker 5: guy who they can plug in if an injury happens

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Speaker 5: without missing too much.

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Speaker 4: Of a beat.

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Speaker 3: Johnathan Texas signed David Arnett or the Roughnecks about a

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Speaker 3: week ago or so.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know that's at the ninety man limit,

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Speaker 3: but do you think that's it going into training camp

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Speaker 3: for the Texans As far as signing people from outside

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Speaker 3: the building to come in for training camp betweeny twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so, as long as there's no injuries.

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Speaker 5: Between now and training camp that the Texans find out of.

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Speaker 5: I think this is what we'll see going into training camp,

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Speaker 5: and you'll see moves throughout the first and second week, and.

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Speaker 4: As players get hurt.

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Speaker 5: As a players struggle, they'll try to upgrade at certain

772
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Speaker 5: positions depending on what their weaknesses are. But yeah, Arnette

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Speaker 5: gives them an additional guy at cornerback.

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Speaker 4: I believe that he'll probably be on a short leash.

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Speaker 5: They'll want to see him be able to perform given

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Speaker 5: his history and of legal troubles.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I think for now this is who we see.

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Speaker 2: So Jonathan story out this week Anthony Richardson, He's gonna

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Speaker 2: be okay for training camps. So he's going to be

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Speaker 2: just fine. Shoulder, just fine. So how does the suspect

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Speaker 2: fun the Colts quarterback situation.

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Speaker 1: Change your mind at all?

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about how that's going to shake

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Speaker 2: out between he and Jones?

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Speaker 5: It doesn't because I've been hearing nothing, but you know

786
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: the good things about Jones, Daniel Jones, and at least

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Speaker 5: the Colts are talking him up so to me, giving

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Speaker 5: the fact that he's a veteran, has started for a while.

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Speaker 5: I think they're going to give him a chance and

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Speaker 5: let him prove himself before Richardson.

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Speaker 4: I think Richardson has a long start.

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Speaker 5: Just based on what I've been reading and hearing and

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Speaker 5: seeing on Twitter, it just sounds like Sin's gonna probably

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Speaker 5: enter as the number two in this season.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if this is breaking news, but

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Speaker 3: this was how it was framed. Just shortly before lunchtime,

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: Told the Pat mcavie Show, he's.

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Speaker 3: Pretty sure this is it one final ride in Pittsburgh. A.

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Speaker 1: Do you believe him? And B what can they do

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Speaker 1: with that one year?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I do believe him.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think he would Maybe he would

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Speaker 5: say it if he didn't mean it, but you know,

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Speaker 5: I think his options are limited. I can't see him

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00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 5: really have such successful season this year. I think he

807
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 5: was just okay, and I think you've started to see

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00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 5: those statistic drops even from his last year in Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: You know, if you look at it, the production has dropped,

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Speaker 5: and I think this is more so him recognizing that

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Speaker 5: he's not playing at the same level that.

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Speaker 4: He was playing at before three years ago.

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Speaker 5: I think the injuries have slowed him down obviously, the

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Speaker 5: Achilles injury, and I think the rest of the league

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Speaker 5: doesn't place as high as the value on Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 5: as well, so I do believe he'll retire.

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Speaker 4: I do think this will likely be his final year.

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Speaker 2: All right, one more for you, but I want you

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Speaker 2: both to participate. Rate the Sizzle Fires. Pittsburgh finishes third

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Speaker 2: in the AFC North. They actually do worse with Rogers

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Speaker 2: relative to what the Bengals are going to do this year.

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Speaker 2: And obviously the Ravens Cleveland I have in fourth, and

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Speaker 2: I think everybody does Jonathan go first.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely believe they'll finish third.

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Speaker 5: I just think, you know, I saw them have a

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Speaker 5: significant drop off towards at the latter end of the year.

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Speaker 5: I don't believe Aaron Rodgers and DK Medal alone will

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Speaker 5: carry this team. And I think the Ravens are much better.

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Speaker 5: And I think the Bengals will be really good this

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Speaker 5: year too.

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Speaker 1: I think that's almost negative Sizzle Fires. Really it's just good.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Ravens are arguably most talent roster in

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Speaker 3: the league. The Bengals have all their pieces offensively coming back,

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Speaker 3: and it looks like they're making some headway with Trey Hendrickson,

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Speaker 3: now what they do as Shamar Stewart, that's a hold

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Speaker 3: of her story.

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Speaker 2: But we're talking about Pittsburgh having made the playoffs the

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Speaker 2: last two years with Kenny Pickett and the exhumed body

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Speaker 2: of Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Get it, I get it. But that defense is a

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Speaker 3: year older. Cam Hayward's like fifty eight years old. Alex

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00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 3: Highsmith was banged up last year. TJ Wattson, he not

843
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: coming back until he gets his contract, and at that point,

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Speaker 3: that's the heart of that defense. After that, I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's Mika and like a lot of question marks. So

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Speaker 3: I think offensively they'll be better, but I think defensively

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Speaker 3: they might take half a step back. That said, I

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Speaker 3: still think they're I still think they're probably nine and eight,

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Speaker 3: ten and seven, and I think the Bengals are right there.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's probably about two to two and

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Speaker 3: a half sizzle fires. I'll give it just because I

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Speaker 3: do think there's a chance to get to say, no

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Speaker 3: way they're getting first, they get if they get first.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing this show from I don't know Hawaii because

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go bet on the Bengals to win a

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00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: division over the Ravens and it's not happened. The Ravens

857
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 3: are that good, So you just not giving the Browns

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Speaker 3: any chance, and I just think.

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Speaker 1: You're foolish in that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jonathan, what do you have going on in the

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Speaker 2: Houston Chronicle for us?

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00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, this week I'll have a story on Christian Kirk

863
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 5: and why he's intent on getting back to his previous

864
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Speaker 5: perform when he was at his best with the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: Very nice. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: There's our friend Jonathan Alexander from the Houston Chronicle coming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll clean up things from around the league.

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00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 2: I'll get to some stories including, but not limited to, Hey,

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Speaker 2: a team announces an alternate uniform date. Is this the

871
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: best alternate uniform out there among the thirty one other teams? Anyway,

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00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 2: we'll get into that, among other things on the way

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Speaker 2: out here on Texans Radio. Final segment on the show tonight.

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00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: Plenty of Aaron Rodgers talk on the Show tonight. Is

875
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: that too much? Probably too much? Considering the Texans don't

876
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: even play the Steelers this year unless it's in the postseason,

877
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: It's gonna be tough for Pittsburgh getting there again. I'm

878
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 2: pretty impressed they got there each of the last two years.

879
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 2: And remember the Texans took it to them in twenty

880
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: twenty three on what day in front of the home fans.

881
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: That was so awesome that afternoon seems like a long

882
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 2: time ago now, man, And that was like two or

883
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: three quarterbacks ago for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And it's just

884
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: bizarre that they have Aaron Rodgers, who, by the way,

885
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: will work out in Malibu with Steelers players. So you

886
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: have the Steelers having an unofficial workout with Rogers and

887
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: players in Malibu. You had the Rams staging mini camp

888
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: in Maui this past offseason.

889
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: Man, that's pretty nice. But I'm fine with Houston.

890
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: This is great. It's okay. It wasn't that hot during

891
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 2: OTA's in mini camp. The players who thought it was hot,

892
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: just wait and see, wait and see how that's gonna go.

893
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: And we're all gonna be out there for training camp

894
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: when it starts in that week of the twenty first.

895
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: At some point, training camp will start, and I would

896
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 2: expect a training camp practice schedule announcement pretty soon. It's

897
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 2: got to come out soon, right, So let's all wait

898
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: on that together other things happening around the NFL. Well, oh,

899
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 2: the Bucks are going to wear their creamsicle uniforms week fifteen.

900
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 2: Now that's one of the sweetest uniforms out there, right that.

901
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 2: A lot of people like the old Patriot uniforms. They

902
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: wore those when the Texans were up in Foxborough last year. Eh,

903
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 2: the older uniforms. We're not going to talk about that

904
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: right now, are we.

905
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: No.

906
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: We saw those each of the last two years and

907
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: guess what when andre ware said put them in the

908
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 2: trunk in twenty twenty three when Fairbairn won it on

909
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: a late field goal, that was awesome. Now they kept

910
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: them out of the trunk for last year, but after

911
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: Damian Pearson company ran all over them in the final

912
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: week of the season, I guess they decided enough is

913
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 2: enough and they put those uniforms away. But the creamsicles

914
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: very sweet. However, all these retro uniforms share one thing.

915
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 2: I think that if you wore them all the time,

916
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: the fans will get tired of them.

917
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Again.

918
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 2: I lived in New England when the Patriots wore those

919
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: old pat Patriot on the side of the helmet red uniforms,

920
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,240
Speaker 2: and believe me. The local fan base at the time

921
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: was we got to make a change here. So I

922
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: doubt the Oilers were thinking we got to make a

923
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: change because the team was moving, so that was a

924
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: very different situation. I think the Bucks they were thinking,

925
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: we got to make a change. They clearly did make

926
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: a change, and it meant a lot for their franchise.

927
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: It changed the fortune of the franchise now, not the

928
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: uniform change, Tony Dungee coaching, having Lovey Smith their's defensive coordinator,

929
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: that obviously really helped the talent improvement Sean King, et cetera.

930
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: But it all went along with the rebrand right and

931
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,399
Speaker 2: the Texans just underwent their own rebrand in twenty twenty four,

932
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: and it was very cool to see the new uniforms unveiled.

933
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 2: And yes, there will be a day, not anytime soon,

934
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: but there will be a day, I'm sure when the

935
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: Texans have their own retro day and where the similar

936
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: look or the same look they had in their early

937
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: oh's And.

938
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: You're thinking, well, wait a minute, Mark, it didn't change.

939
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 2: It kind of did a little bit because the white

940
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: uniforms in the early early days. If you look at

941
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: the Dallas game highlights for instance, you can see more

942
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: red trim. I think socks were red or something like that.

943
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: I don't have an image in front of me, but

944
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 2: those old old it's weird to say that.

945
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: Now, huh.

946
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean two thousand and two, those old white uniforms

947
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: were a little bit different than what they would eventually

948
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: start wearing.

949
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 1: But you know what I really like though, that really

950
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: never got its run.

951
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: The red helmet that was unveiled in twenty twenty two

952
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 2: on a Thursday night game November third, I believe was

953
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: the date. Now a not so good memory as far

954
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 2: as the game went, with the Philadelphia Eagles and the

955
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: Astros playing a World Series game on the same night.

956
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Let's forget about that part.

957
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: But that was the night they unveiled the red uniform,

958
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: or the red helmet rather for the first time. And

959
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 2: then they wore the red helmet on Battle Red Day

960
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three with Demiko Ryans obviously, and they

961
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 2: wore the red helmet and the blue uniform. What game

962
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: was that was that Denver? That was a really cool look.

963
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: Maybe that was Tampa Bay, whatever it was, it was

964
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: a really cool look at the red helmet and the

965
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: old deep steel blue uniform, so we never saw much

966
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: of that. But I'm fine with the uniform change. It's

967
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: just that we never saw that red helmet much. Just

968
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: two seasons of the long awaited red helmet, and now

969
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: I know what you're wondering, where's the white helmet? Not

970
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 2: gonna happen anytime soon, but you never know, maybe there

971
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: is a white helmet coming.

972
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: You never know.

973
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 4: Huh.

974
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: The league is getting way more lenient.

975
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: They're getting way more flexible with uniform adjustments, changes, special occasions.

976
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: So we'll learn more as we go. All right, that's

977
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Speaker 2: gonna do it for the show tonight Tomorrow night. Plenty

978
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: of activity. We're gonna get Ejspeed on the program. New

979
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: Texans linebacker, among other things happening on the show. Don't

980
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: miss it tomorrow night at six. John McClean. Thursday, more

981
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 2: Texans interviews on the way. Have a great night. Area

982
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Speaker 2: forty five coming up. Go Texans,