WEBVTT - The Fifth Hour: Robbed of a Marconi 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:01.480 Cut booms. 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.400 If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:09.200 a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.480 of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.520 treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.480 rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:18.360 Wow. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.320 The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:29.360 The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:36.279 In the air eywhere and welcome into another weekend of 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:40.960 the Fifth Hour with me Ben and over there is Danny, 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:45.879 and we're hanging out here on Normally on Fridays we 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:48.800 kind of futs around with the holidays and all that. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:50.760 But this is kind of a big holiday today, being 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.240 the twenty ninth day of March and this being Easter weekend. 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.360 So I think we know the big holiday today. It's 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:04.480 Good Friday, Danny. Maybe people celebrating Good Friday. The odd 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.639 thing to me, though, is that there's other holidays on 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.640 this date that are just that that it's just the 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.000 way it is. There's Mermaid Day today. I don't know 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:17.240 how you celebrate Mermaid. I've been to the Mermaid in Minnesota. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:18.840 There was the bar we went to and had the 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:20.640 malor meet and greet was at the Mermaid. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.120 Makes me think of the old Tom Hanks movie Mermaid. 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:28.440 Yeah, I remember that. It's National Smoking Mirrors Day, like 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:35.319 our podcast about Yeah, smoking mirrors, deceptive, Yeah, magic illusions. 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.600 Tony Bruno used to use that line all the time 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.200 when he worked at Fox Sports Radio. Who Smoking Mirrors? 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.160 Talking about smoking mirrors quite a bit? National? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:44.800 Was it? 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:51.680 Niagara Falls runs dry day today? So that's that. I 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:54.520 can I can read more if you want. It's now 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.960 I've been to night. Have you you've been in i 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:56.760 Or Falls? Haven't you? 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.160 No? 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:03.400 I've been there right on the border with Canada, Ontario. 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:09.440 It said, commemorates the time Niagara Falls ran dry because 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:15.600 of ice blocking the falls in eighteen forty eight. Okay, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.560 the thing that pulls me away about Niagara Falls is 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.239 it's very impressive and it's cool and you go on 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:21.000 the boat and they give you a rain slicker and 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:22.480 you go out there and you get a little wet 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.880 and it's cool. But the thing about Nigroa Falls is 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:28.680 that they can turn it on and off, which is 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.400 wild to me, Like they have the technology there. This 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.720 thing was formed twelve thousand years ago at the end 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.680 of the ice age, and they have the ability to 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.280 flip a switch and then that's it. We're good, We're done. 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:44.200 That's all she wrote. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.600 Do you know how they are capable of doing that? 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.280 I don't. They mentioned it when I was there, but 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.720 I don't know. I don't remember exactly what they do. 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.680 But they have a way of directing icually, they must 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.320 direct the water away. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.080 Or they were a hotline to god. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:04.399 Hey, yeah, they make a phone call. 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:07.160 Can you put your karate chop hand down right now? 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.720 Yeah? They call the they call the you know, the authorities, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.280 the proper authorities, and the phone calls are made and 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.840 then then and then that's that. Uh So, I didn't 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.840 want to get into a few things here. Baseball season 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:26.160 beginning yesterday. The Dawyers, the big Blue wrecking crew, looking 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:31.160 pretty good in Game one against the Cardinals. But see, 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.359 the thing that's it's upsetting is they they're gonna win 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.720 one hundred games again. But it doesn't really factor into 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.520 what they're going to do in the playoffs. And it's 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.520 still fun to watch though, well, I mean it's enjoyable. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.560 They're killing people and they'll do a lot of that. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.160 The other thing about the Dodgers is that they're going 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:54.280 to beat so most of the teams in blowouts. They're 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:56.600 not going to be in that many close games. If 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.240 they're in a lot of close games, they've had a 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.240 bad year, you know what I'm saying. They're you're going 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:02.880 to win by three or four runs in most of 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:06.040 the games. But that's not how it goes in the playoffs. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.880 So then that's another issue. Right. So it's like, you know, 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:11.640 I'm looking for things to complain about, Danny, I'm looking 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:15.680 for things to grumble about, and the Dodgers look like 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:18.360 there's just going to be an absolute big blue recon 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:19.960 crew and dominate all year. 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.280 No, you do bring up a good point. Yesterday afternoon, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.240 Coveno and Rich were talking about as long as you 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:29.160 stay above water, your head above water, you are a 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.599 little bit above five hundred going into All Star weekend. Really, 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:36.600 the stretch run is what matters the most in Major 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.720 League Baseball because we've seen it time and time again, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.000 the teams that go on a run late in the 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.880 season and have your favorite word, the momentum going in. 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.640 Now, there's no such thing as though there is confidence. 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.760 In the last two years in baseball, a number six 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.160 seed got to the World Series, the Philadelphia Phillies, and 0:04:55.520 --> 0:05:00.320 this past year it was the the Arizona Diamondbacks. Couple 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:04.279 of years you've seen teams that were at the bottom, 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.160 last team in, but you really have to stink to 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.320 not make the playoffs six of you do the math 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.320 on this. There's fourteen teams in each league, right, there's 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.440 six of the fourteen get in, three division winners and 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:21.440 three wildcards. So you have to be you know, you 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:23.080 have to be pretty bad not to make it. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:24.400 But we will. 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:27.320 We'll see how it plays. And there's always the wild 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:32.240 card of show. Hey Otani and what's gonna happen? Do 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:37.440 the Feds find something? Is there something to find about Otani? 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.440 It's a bad sign. We mentioned this on the Overnight 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.839 Show last night, Danny. It's it's a bad sign that 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:49.960 he hired one of Harvey Weinstein's fixers. Immediately. That is 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.880 not a good sign. I mean that is, you know, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:58.279 the guy Otani got contact his agent got contacted by 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.200 the La Times saying hey, we got something on your 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:05.880 guy that he's involved in some gambling. Then the they 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:10.039 get a phone call from this Manhattan fixer that is 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.680 the like the top New York Hollywood fixer, and he's 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.560 the guy. Remember when Johnny Depp a couple of years 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.159 ago got he was dragged through the mud because of that. 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:22.760 Amber heard trial that that's the guy, the guy that 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.880 Otani hires, the guy that cleaned up Johnny Depp. Alec 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.720 Baldwin has been involved in some stuff. I mean, this 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:33.440 guy is a legend in entertainment and you know New York, LA, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:36.000 that's the guy O Taani higher. Like again, it is 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.200 one of these things like what are you doing? It's 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.000 is there something there? Why are you acting like there's 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:43.760 something there? And maybe there's nothing there. 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.279 At least Johnny Depp came out clean on the other 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:47.320 side of that whole thing. 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:52.000 Remember, Yeah, people saw the trial and Amber heard. They 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.200 realized she's kind of messed up. You know, she got 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.480 some It would appear she has some issues. Most people 0:06:56.520 --> 0:07:00.520 seem to think, at least, as I recall, is heard, 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.440 there you go, it could be his Otani's Amber heard. 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.880 So I had an interesting week this week. Yesterday I 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.960 decided a multitask. I thought I would get some exercise 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:18.400 in I had been requested in New Zealand on a 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:22.000 sports radio show. They wanted to talk about the Sweet sixteen. 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:25.680 They want to talk about this, the basketball playoffs in 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.360 the NBA that were coming up and opening Day. They 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.280 were like, wow, this is a big time in American sports. 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.880 We want you to come on in Auckland, New Zealand. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.920 So I said, all right, whatever, but I wanted to 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.119 get some steps in, so I was like, oh, I'll 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:40.840 go out and fill a walk and then I don't 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:42.920 know exactly when they're going to want me, so i'll 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.280 be I'll just walk around and then we had a 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.320 rough time the producers. I think we'll have you on 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.040 you know what else sounds like fine, whatever, I'll just 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.880 walk and then when they call me, I'll pull off 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.960 to the side and I'll do it. And it's a 0:07:56.160 --> 0:08:01.120 beautiful day in southern California, just perfect spring day, not 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.720 too cold, not too hot. It's wonderful. So I'm walking 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.280 la la la. Phone phone rings, you know, we we 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:11.360 use on the international thing they use the WhatsApp. Is 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:14.760 that what it's called the Yeah, yeah it is. So 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.560 I never use it unless they call me. So they're like, well, 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.960 we had a clearer connection on the WhatsApp. So I say, whatever, 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.320 fund so uh, guy calls up and said, we're just 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.240 gonna have you for a few minutes, no problem. I said, sure, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:27.880 no problem. I don't ask me anything. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:28.280 I don't care. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:31.080 H So I pulled off this side. Now I'm walking 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.559 like on a trail and I pull off to the side. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.040 So then they're asking me in the usual standard stuff 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.160 and I'm like, okay, whatever, you know, I'm busting. I'm 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.760 throwing out you know, silly words and you know, having 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:47.920 fun and goofing around. And there was one moment where 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:50.400 I got very lucky because they they they knew I 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:55.120 know nothing about the local beloved sport in New Zealand, 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:58.679 which is like Rugby, so I really know much about that. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.480 But they were like doing some bit where they were 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:03.480 opening something up because it was even though I did 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.959 this yesterday, it was it was Friday, so I've already 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:10.600 been on in New Zealand radio on Friday because because 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.800 we did this yesterday, but the time difference. So anyways, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.840 the guy's like, hey, I'm opening this like this Easter egg, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.760 and in the middle of the egg is a team 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.160 name from one of the New Zealand teams, and he says, 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:22.880 I know you're in America and you don't know anything 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.240 about this. Can you name one of the teams in 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:30.520 this league? So what I did is I channeled no 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.199 stradamas As. You know, I'm a distant relative of no 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:36.040 Stra Damas and friend of Nostradenas, so I channeled this. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.040 And you mean Nicodema's right, No, no, no, that's that's 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.320 that's your friend. But so Dan, in my head, I'm like, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.000 I'm trying to use the process of elimination. I'm like, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.440 what is the most popular team names around the world. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:54.360 So I'm thinking, well, in America, it's a lot of bulldogs. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.840 There's a lot of that wildcats, but I don't think 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.960 that's as popular around the world. Dogs and wildcats. And 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.040 then for some reason, I pulled this out of my tookes. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:13.160 I said Warriors and they were shocked. They were like 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:18.040 blown away by that because that's apparently the national team 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:21.760 is called the Warriors there, and they were like unbelievable. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.080 But I don't know if I had that subliminally in 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.080 my head, because during the pandemic, when I was so 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.719 desperate to find anything to watch, I fell down a 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.480 rabbit hole where I was watching like Ozzie Rules football 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.440 New Zealand rugby stuff during the pandemic. But that's been 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.480 four years. Yeah, so it's been. 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.880 It was in between your Marvel competitions. 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.200 I did do marble racing monologues, which I'm very proud 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.640 of and I should have won a Marconi Award for that. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.160 It's embarrassing that I did not. But so I'm doing 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:51.280 this and then they were very happy I answered that, 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:52.880 and so we're going back and forth. They even asked 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.720 me about hockey and I'm like, oh man, that's a 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.040 tough one. But I tried to answer it. I was 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:02.320 able to use bulk fucky to get through that. So 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.199 then we're going back and forth and then all of 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:09.320 a sudden, lights and sirens. He remember, I'm outside. I'm outside. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.839 I'm doing this outside and there was a fire truck 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.200 that decided they had to go to a I guess 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:21.000 a fire cherry tops. Lights, sirens poom. So they're like 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.080 they didn't realize I was outside. They're like, what is 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:27.480 going on? There was like a big big to do. Well, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:30.280 you know, I don't know exactly what's going on, but 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.439 maybe they're coming to get me. And then they were like, well, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.120 we know you Americans don't like US, US down here 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:39.480 in our us Kiwi's And I was like, eh, I 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.440 don't know, do we does America not like New Zealand. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:43.760 I have nothing against New Zealand. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:46.559 I've never heard anything bad about New Zealand. I think 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:47.199 they were talking. 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.679 About the politics, which are messed up. But my opinion, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:53.320 politics are messed up pretty much everywhere. So but yeah, 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:54.880 it was kind of I was like, yeah, you know, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:56.559 like some of the stuff about US, I was like, ah, 0:11:56.600 --> 0:12:00.920 I'm fine, I'm good that guy. I got nothing. I 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.480 got nothing bad to say about that. You know, nothing 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:04.640 nothing bad. 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.360 Blank my blank and blank you. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.880 That was my my chat with our friends. I also 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.160 did something I haven't done very often. I haven't done 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.720 this in years. I got a request to be the 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:22.000 focal point of a I guess we'll call it give 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:26.920 me Liberty or give me a podcast. So I spoke 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:32.240 at Liberty University remotely. I didn't actually go to Virginia, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.080 but I smoke. I spoke over I did like a 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:36.600 video conference thing. 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.000 You're gonna say you smoked with the kids. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.440 I did, but it's I don't think you're allowed to 0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:43.760 smoke at that school, or you will be struck by 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:49.200 lightning because it's a high falutin religious place. But anyway, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.880 so this kid will emailed me, Hey, I'm a senior. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.800 I'm going to graduate in May, and I want to 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.760 I want to do what you do, and I want 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.439 to I want to be in radio, television, whatever. So 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.440 I'd love to have a conversation and recorded for my 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.560 senior projects. So I was like, all right, this is exciting, 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.800 so give me Liberty, give me the podcast. So I 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.360 went on with him, and he asked me a bunch 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.600 of questions. But then I got I got into a 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:20.400 bit of a tussle with him, Danny, because he's a 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.120 fan of a team I don't like in basketball, and 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:27.040 that annoyed me. But then he absolutely gave me the 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.120 atomic elbow because he was asking me about my career 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.080 and I was like, well, I worked, you know. I 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.640 was talking about some of the places I worked, and 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.920 then I was like, well, I started a Fox Sports 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:41.080 radio in like two thousand, in the end of two thousand, 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:45.040 in early two thousand and one, and then I worked, 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:48.240 blah blah, I going through the whole thing. He's like, 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.480 you've been there longer than I've been alive. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:54.760 Off the top rope. 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.920 Oh, just get me a body bag. I mean it 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:03.680 was just vicious. Oh I mean, oh, and he's he's 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:08.280 talking about like it was a little kid watching Kobe 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.760 Bryant for the Lake. I'm like, oh, man, I was 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.000 at those games. They're like, oh crap, you know. I 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.200 was like, that's pretty pretty crazy. But it was fun. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:17.240 I had a good time doing it. 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.920 And yeah, and I feel like you and I Ben, 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:24.480 we lived in an era that kids loved to look at, 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:27.040 in which they had seen it with their own eyes, 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.280 you know what I mean. Like, Yeah, music was better, 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.960 movies were better. Some of our athletes were stars that 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:34.800 kids right now can't even comprehend. 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.560 Yeah, everything changed with social media. There's a lot more 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.960 famous people now, but they're not nearly as famous as 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:42.880 the people we were. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:45.520 Yeah, they're stupid famous like influencers. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.640 Yeah exactly. Like there's people that claim to have and 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.640 maybe they do, hundreds of thousands, millions of followers and 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.640 you have no idea who they are. They could walk 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:57.520 right in front of you back and forth on a 0:14:57.560 --> 0:15:01.840 catwalk and you're like, who, whether they're on TikTok? Well yeah, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.240 I know, but what why are they famous? While they 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:07.680 eat sandwiches. They eat sandwiches, and they you know, they 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:11.600 wear jewelry. I'm like, well, okay, and that whole world. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:11.840 Man. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.120 I again, I go back to my long standing position, 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.200 it would be my dying position that it is all 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.880 the matrix. It is all the matrix. It's all the 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:25.280 algorithms and the you know, the the hand picked influencers 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.280 and all that. It's you know, take the blue pill. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.280 The story ends, a lot of people love to take 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.600 the other pill. They like to stay and take the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:40.680 red pill and just stay in in wonderland. But you know, 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:44.360 the kid from Liberty was he seemed like he has 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:46.160 a good mindset. I was trying to he was asking 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:48.640 for advice, and I was like, well, it's a lot 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.600 different now than when I got into the business, because 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.480 when I got into the business, the one path you 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.520 had to be an intern and you had to network, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.360 and you had to work your way up at the bottom. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:00.520 And I don't know that you necessarily have to do 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.680 that now, but I'm I was like, that's to me, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.920 that makes sense. But you can also get your own 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.120 following and do a YouTube thing or something like that, 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:16.480 or a podcast, and I create your own brand. And 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.240 see how that works. Now, speaking of your own brand, 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:22.360 I don't know that I mentioned this on the podcast. 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.000 If I did, Dany just kick me in the nuts 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.560 and I will stop. But I saw this recently and 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.480 I'd forgotten about it. I don't think we brought it 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:34.320 up on the podcast The Top forty. Did we talk 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.720 about the Top forty in radio and how that began? 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:39.240 No? 0:16:39.560 --> 0:16:42.440 I don't think we did, right, No, not with me. Yeah, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.840 and I'm pretty sure I didn't do that with the 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.360 Vegan Yeah, so yeah, I don't think I did. So. 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.680 I saw this recently and it caught my attention. I 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.840 was like, I wanted to highlight it because I think 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:58.120 it's one of those interesting, cool stories that will like 0:16:58.200 --> 0:17:01.400 because we're both radio nerds. But then the people that 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:04.760 listen to this are they're into it, right, You listen 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.320 to a podcast a spin off of the Overnight Show, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.200 so you got to be a little bit into it, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.919 I would think. So the history of Top forty radio, 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.960 how did it begin? And this is still a popular format, 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.520 not that music radio is doing particularly great, but even 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.639 the streaming services they do a version of the Top forty. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:29.200 I don't know if they call it that I don't 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.800 if they're allowed to call that. So Top forty radio 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:38.119 started in Omaha, Nebraska, of all places. Didn't start in 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:40.439 New York, didn't started in LA didn't start at some 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:46.400 music revolution in some small grunge place in Seattle or Portland, Oregon. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:51.240 It started in Omaha, Nebraska's where it began. And the 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.480 story is. And I was like, this is kind of 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.680 ridiculous when somebody told me it. And then I went 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.440 and I looked, did a little research, filled down a 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.840 rabbit hole. I was like, oh, that's actually true. Get 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.639 to the point, please. So this guy that ran the 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.760 radio station, this guy Todd, we'll call him. He ran 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:12.880 the radio station in Omaha, and it was the lowest 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:15.720 rated radio station in Omaha. They had no one listening. 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:20.440 No one was listening. So he and his program director 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:25.240 they were out of the local sawdust joint in a 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:29.080 spit and saw us joint, and they noticed at this 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.359 local bar in Omaha that the jukebox they only played 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.600 a couple of songs. They kept playing the same songs, 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.480 and they had this epiphany. The guy that was the 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.239 program I was like, wait a minute here, and so 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:47.240 he went over and they looked up what was being 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.359 played on. They looked at the play sheet on the 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:52.800 jukebox and it was like they took the top thirty songs. 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.879 They later added ten more to make it to the 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.879 top forty, and then they just started playing those and 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.320 those are the only songs they played. And all of 0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.360 a sudden, they just played the same songs. They were 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:06.639 popular songs. And that station went from dead last in 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:10.439 the market in the ratings in Omaha, and they became 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.679 the number one station in a very short amount of 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.000 time because of that. And that was the This is 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.840 in the late fifties, I believe, I think it was 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:24.439 nineteen fifties. By the early nineteen sixties, it was in 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.280 every market, every single radio market, at top forty radios. 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.000 And you do not like this, to hate that formatt 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.639 with a passion, actually, because my argument with general managers 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:39.800 was always well, obviously fast forward to the digital age, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.920 my argument was always kids and adults listening have way 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.960 more songs in their iPod than what you're trying to 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:49.919 let me play off my playlist. Come on, we have 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.840 to be the experts in music and have a big 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:58.040 music library. So it's that radio station's fault, I guess 0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:01.119 that you see and I understand, and when it's a 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.879 small sample size, when people only listen for a couple 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:07.240 of minutes, and that would be programmers across the country. 0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.840 That was their argument for years. Well, the average person 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:13.080 listens for five minutes and thirty seconds, So we're gonna 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.919 play the same song three times in one hour? What 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:19.200 about the radio heads like us and our listeners who 0:20:19.359 --> 0:20:21.040 like to listen for long stretches. 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:23.920 No, I hear you. It is an odd quirk about 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:27.600 human beings. Though. The same thing happened back when everyone 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:32.400 had cable television, that people would have two hundred channels, 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:36.440 and the average number of channels that people actually watched 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:41.080 is about twelve. Even though they have all these options, 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:45.440 it's a very small number of things that you actually 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:46.719 you actually are here. 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:49.800 Yeah, but for those couple of channels I watch, I 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.640 want a lot of variety on each of those channels 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:55.880 in that genre that I like. I don't want Ridiculousness 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.840 on MTV playing back to back to back to back 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:01.560 to back episodes. You know that that's their trick. Now 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:05.600 they do like a Ridiculousness marathon and that's all they 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.359 play all weekend, is just that show. Over and over. 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:11.639 But we have seen to play Devil's advocate Danny. We 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:15.800 have seen when streaming services will release a series, they'll 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:18.359 do a drop and people will just sit there and 0:21:18.440 --> 0:21:21.679 binge watch that show. I know it's different episodes, but 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:25.000 they'll binge watch. Yeah, like all of Saturday. They'll watch 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.480 every freaking episode of some show. 0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:30.240