Speaker 1: Cut booms.
Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the
Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special.
Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now.
Speaker 1: In the air eywhere and welcome into another weekend of
Speaker 1: the Fifth Hour with me Ben and over there is Danny,
Speaker 1: and we're hanging out here on Normally on Fridays we
Speaker 1: kind of futs around with the holidays and all that.
Speaker 1: But this is kind of a big holiday today, being
Speaker 1: the twenty ninth day of March and this being Easter weekend.
Speaker 1: So I think we know the big holiday today. It's
Speaker 1: Good Friday, Danny. Maybe people celebrating Good Friday. The odd
Speaker 1: thing to me, though, is that there's other holidays on
Speaker 1: this date that are just that that it's just the
Speaker 1: way it is. There's Mermaid Day today. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you celebrate Mermaid. I've been to the Mermaid in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: There was the bar we went to and had the
Speaker 1: malor meet and greet was at the Mermaid.
Speaker 3: Makes me think of the old Tom Hanks movie Mermaid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. It's National Smoking Mirrors Day, like
Speaker 1: our podcast about Yeah, smoking mirrors, deceptive, Yeah, magic illusions.
Speaker 1: Tony Bruno used to use that line all the time
Speaker 1: when he worked at Fox Sports Radio. Who Smoking Mirrors?
Speaker 1: Talking about smoking mirrors quite a bit? National?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: Niagara Falls runs dry day today? So that's that. I
Speaker 1: can I can read more if you want. It's now
Speaker 1: I've been to night. Have you you've been in i
Speaker 1: Or Falls? Haven't you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I've been there right on the border with Canada, Ontario.
Speaker 1: It said, commemorates the time Niagara Falls ran dry because
Speaker 1: of ice blocking the falls in eighteen forty eight. Okay,
Speaker 1: the thing that pulls me away about Niagara Falls is
Speaker 1: it's very impressive and it's cool and you go on
Speaker 1: the boat and they give you a rain slicker and
Speaker 1: you go out there and you get a little wet
Speaker 1: and it's cool. But the thing about Nigroa Falls is
Speaker 1: that they can turn it on and off, which is
Speaker 1: wild to me, Like they have the technology there. This
Speaker 1: thing was formed twelve thousand years ago at the end
Speaker 1: of the ice age, and they have the ability to
Speaker 1: flip a switch and then that's it. We're good, We're done.
Speaker 1: That's all she wrote.
Speaker 3: Do you know how they are capable of doing that?
Speaker 1: I don't. They mentioned it when I was there, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember exactly what they do.
Speaker 1: But they have a way of directing icually, they must
Speaker 1: direct the water away.
Speaker 3: Or they were a hotline to god.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, they make a phone call.
Speaker 3: Can you put your karate chop hand down right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah? They call the they call the you know, the authorities,
Speaker 1: the proper authorities, and the phone calls are made and
Speaker 1: then then and then that's that. Uh So, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to get into a few things here. Baseball season
Speaker 1: beginning yesterday. The Dawyers, the big Blue wrecking crew, looking
Speaker 1: pretty good in Game one against the Cardinals. But see,
Speaker 1: the thing that's it's upsetting is they they're gonna win
Speaker 1: one hundred games again. But it doesn't really factor into
Speaker 1: what they're going to do in the playoffs. And it's
Speaker 1: still fun to watch though, well, I mean it's enjoyable.
Speaker 1: They're killing people and they'll do a lot of that.
Speaker 1: The other thing about the Dodgers is that they're going
Speaker 1: to beat so most of the teams in blowouts. They're
Speaker 1: not going to be in that many close games. If
Speaker 1: they're in a lot of close games, they've had a
Speaker 1: bad year, you know what I'm saying. They're you're going
Speaker 1: to win by three or four runs in most of
Speaker 1: the games. But that's not how it goes in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So then that's another issue. Right. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for things to complain about, Danny, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for things to grumble about, and the Dodgers look like
Speaker 1: there's just going to be an absolute big blue recon
Speaker 1: crew and dominate all year.
Speaker 3: No, you do bring up a good point. Yesterday afternoon,
Speaker 3: Coveno and Rich were talking about as long as you
Speaker 3: stay above water, your head above water, you are a
Speaker 3: little bit above five hundred going into All Star weekend. Really,
Speaker 3: the stretch run is what matters the most in Major
Speaker 3: League Baseball because we've seen it time and time again,
Speaker 3: the teams that go on a run late in the
Speaker 3: season and have your favorite word, the momentum going in.
Speaker 1: Now, there's no such thing as though there is confidence.
Speaker 1: In the last two years in baseball, a number six
Speaker 1: seed got to the World Series, the Philadelphia Phillies, and
Speaker 1: this past year it was the the Arizona Diamondbacks. Couple
Speaker 1: of years you've seen teams that were at the bottom,
Speaker 1: last team in, but you really have to stink to
Speaker 1: not make the playoffs six of you do the math
Speaker 1: on this. There's fourteen teams in each league, right, there's
Speaker 1: six of the fourteen get in, three division winners and
Speaker 1: three wildcards. So you have to be you know, you
Speaker 1: have to be pretty bad not to make it.
Speaker 3: But we will.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays. And there's always the wild
Speaker 1: card of show. Hey Otani and what's gonna happen? Do
Speaker 1: the Feds find something? Is there something to find about Otani?
Speaker 1: It's a bad sign. We mentioned this on the Overnight
Speaker 1: Show last night, Danny. It's it's a bad sign that
Speaker 1: he hired one of Harvey Weinstein's fixers. Immediately. That is
Speaker 1: not a good sign. I mean that is, you know,
Speaker 1: the guy Otani got contact his agent got contacted by
Speaker 1: the La Times saying hey, we got something on your
Speaker 1: guy that he's involved in some gambling. Then the they
Speaker 1: get a phone call from this Manhattan fixer that is
Speaker 1: the like the top New York Hollywood fixer, and he's
Speaker 1: the guy. Remember when Johnny Depp a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago got he was dragged through the mud because of that.
Speaker 1: Amber heard trial that that's the guy, the guy that
Speaker 1: Otani hires, the guy that cleaned up Johnny Depp. Alec
Speaker 1: Baldwin has been involved in some stuff. I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy is a legend in entertainment and you know New York, LA,
Speaker 1: that's the guy O Taani higher. Like again, it is
Speaker 1: one of these things like what are you doing? It's
Speaker 1: is there something there? Why are you acting like there's
Speaker 1: something there? And maybe there's nothing there.
Speaker 3: At least Johnny Depp came out clean on the other
Speaker 3: side of that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Remember, Yeah, people saw the trial and Amber heard. They
Speaker 1: realized she's kind of messed up. You know, she got
Speaker 1: some It would appear she has some issues. Most people
Speaker 1: seem to think, at least, as I recall, is heard,
Speaker 1: there you go, it could be his Otani's Amber heard.
Speaker 1: So I had an interesting week this week. Yesterday I
Speaker 1: decided a multitask. I thought I would get some exercise
Speaker 1: in I had been requested in New Zealand on a
Speaker 1: sports radio show. They wanted to talk about the Sweet sixteen.
Speaker 1: They want to talk about this, the basketball playoffs in
Speaker 1: the NBA that were coming up and opening Day. They
Speaker 1: were like, wow, this is a big time in American sports.
Speaker 1: We want you to come on in Auckland, New Zealand.
Speaker 1: So I said, all right, whatever, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: get some steps in, so I was like, oh, I'll
Speaker 1: go out and fill a walk and then I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly when they're going to want me, so i'll
Speaker 1: be I'll just walk around and then we had a
Speaker 1: rough time the producers. I think we'll have you on
Speaker 1: you know what else sounds like fine, whatever, I'll just
Speaker 1: walk and then when they call me, I'll pull off
Speaker 1: to the side and I'll do it. And it's a
Speaker 1: beautiful day in southern California, just perfect spring day, not
Speaker 1: too cold, not too hot. It's wonderful. So I'm walking
Speaker 1: la la la. Phone phone rings, you know, we we
Speaker 1: use on the international thing they use the WhatsApp. Is
Speaker 1: that what it's called the Yeah, yeah it is. So
Speaker 1: I never use it unless they call me. So they're like, well,
Speaker 1: we had a clearer connection on the WhatsApp. So I say, whatever,
Speaker 1: fund so uh, guy calls up and said, we're just
Speaker 1: gonna have you for a few minutes, no problem. I said, sure,
Speaker 1: no problem. I don't ask me anything.
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 1: H So I pulled off this side. Now I'm walking
Speaker 1: like on a trail and I pull off to the side.
Speaker 1: So then they're asking me in the usual standard stuff
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, whatever, you know, I'm busting. I'm
Speaker 1: throwing out you know, silly words and you know, having
Speaker 1: fun and goofing around. And there was one moment where
Speaker 1: I got very lucky because they they they knew I
Speaker 1: know nothing about the local beloved sport in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: which is like Rugby, so I really know much about that.
Speaker 1: But they were like doing some bit where they were
Speaker 1: opening something up because it was even though I did
Speaker 1: this yesterday, it was it was Friday, so I've already
Speaker 1: been on in New Zealand radio on Friday because because
Speaker 1: we did this yesterday, but the time difference. So anyways,
Speaker 1: the guy's like, hey, I'm opening this like this Easter egg,
Speaker 1: and in the middle of the egg is a team
Speaker 1: name from one of the New Zealand teams, and he says,
Speaker 1: I know you're in America and you don't know anything
Speaker 1: about this. Can you name one of the teams in
Speaker 1: this league? So what I did is I channeled no
Speaker 1: stradamas As. You know, I'm a distant relative of no
Speaker 1: Stra Damas and friend of Nostradenas, so I channeled this.
Speaker 1: And you mean Nicodema's right, No, no, no, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's your friend. But so Dan, in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to use the process of elimination. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is the most popular team names around the world.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, well, in America, it's a lot of bulldogs.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of that wildcats, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that's as popular around the world. Dogs and wildcats. And
Speaker 1: then for some reason, I pulled this out of my tookes.
Speaker 1: I said Warriors and they were shocked. They were like
Speaker 1: blown away by that because that's apparently the national team
Speaker 1: is called the Warriors there, and they were like unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I had that subliminally in
Speaker 1: my head, because during the pandemic, when I was so
Speaker 1: desperate to find anything to watch, I fell down a
Speaker 1: rabbit hole where I was watching like Ozzie Rules football
Speaker 1: New Zealand rugby stuff during the pandemic. But that's been
Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, so it's been.
Speaker 3: It was in between your Marvel competitions.
Speaker 1: I did do marble racing monologues, which I'm very proud
Speaker 1: of and I should have won a Marconi Award for that.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing that I did not. But so I'm doing
Speaker 1: this and then they were very happy I answered that,
Speaker 1: and so we're going back and forth. They even asked
Speaker 1: me about hockey and I'm like, oh man, that's a
Speaker 1: tough one. But I tried to answer it. I was
Speaker 1: able to use bulk fucky to get through that. So
Speaker 1: then we're going back and forth and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, lights and sirens. He remember, I'm outside. I'm outside.
Speaker 1: I'm doing this outside and there was a fire truck
Speaker 1: that decided they had to go to a I guess
Speaker 1: a fire cherry tops. Lights, sirens poom. So they're like
Speaker 1: they didn't realize I was outside. They're like, what is
Speaker 1: going on? There was like a big big to do. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know exactly what's going on, but
Speaker 1: maybe they're coming to get me. And then they were like, well,
Speaker 1: we know you Americans don't like US, US down here
Speaker 1: in our us Kiwi's And I was like, eh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, do we does America not like New Zealand.
Speaker 1: I have nothing against New Zealand.
Speaker 3: I've never heard anything bad about New Zealand. I think
Speaker 3: they were talking.
Speaker 1: About the politics, which are messed up. But my opinion,
Speaker 1: politics are messed up pretty much everywhere. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of I was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like some of the stuff about US, I was like, ah,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm good that guy. I got nothing. I
Speaker 1: got nothing bad to say about that. You know, nothing
Speaker 1: nothing bad.
Speaker 3: Blank my blank and blank you.
Speaker 1: That was my my chat with our friends. I also
Speaker 1: did something I haven't done very often. I haven't done
Speaker 1: this in years. I got a request to be the
Speaker 1: focal point of a I guess we'll call it give
Speaker 1: me Liberty or give me a podcast. So I spoke
Speaker 1: at Liberty University remotely. I didn't actually go to Virginia,
Speaker 1: but I smoke. I spoke over I did like a
Speaker 1: video conference thing.
Speaker 3: You're gonna say you smoked with the kids.
Speaker 1: I did, but it's I don't think you're allowed to
Speaker 1: smoke at that school, or you will be struck by
Speaker 1: lightning because it's a high falutin religious place. But anyway,
Speaker 1: so this kid will emailed me, Hey, I'm a senior.
Speaker 1: I'm going to graduate in May, and I want to
Speaker 1: I want to do what you do, and I want
Speaker 1: to I want to be in radio, television, whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'd love to have a conversation and recorded for my
Speaker 1: senior projects. So I was like, all right, this is exciting,
Speaker 1: so give me Liberty, give me the podcast. So I
Speaker 1: went on with him, and he asked me a bunch
Speaker 1: of questions. But then I got I got into a
Speaker 1: bit of a tussle with him, Danny, because he's a
Speaker 1: fan of a team I don't like in basketball, and
Speaker 1: that annoyed me. But then he absolutely gave me the
Speaker 1: atomic elbow because he was asking me about my career
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I worked, you know. I
Speaker 1: was talking about some of the places I worked, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, well, I started a Fox Sports
Speaker 1: radio in like two thousand, in the end of two thousand,
Speaker 1: in early two thousand and one, and then I worked,
Speaker 1: blah blah, I going through the whole thing. He's like,
Speaker 1: you've been there longer than I've been alive.
Speaker 3: Off the top rope.
Speaker 1: Oh, just get me a body bag. I mean it
Speaker 1: was just vicious. Oh I mean, oh, and he's he's
Speaker 1: talking about like it was a little kid watching Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant for the Lake. I'm like, oh, man, I was
Speaker 1: at those games. They're like, oh crap, you know. I
Speaker 1: was like, that's pretty pretty crazy. But it was fun.
Speaker 1: I had a good time doing it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and I feel like you and I Ben,
Speaker 3: we lived in an era that kids loved to look at,
Speaker 3: in which they had seen it with their own eyes,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, Yeah, music was better,
Speaker 3: movies were better. Some of our athletes were stars that
Speaker 3: kids right now can't even comprehend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everything changed with social media. There's a lot more
Speaker 1: famous people now, but they're not nearly as famous as
Speaker 1: the people we were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're stupid famous like influencers.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Like there's people that claim to have and
Speaker 1: maybe they do, hundreds of thousands, millions of followers and
Speaker 1: you have no idea who they are. They could walk
Speaker 1: right in front of you back and forth on a
Speaker 1: catwalk and you're like, who, whether they're on TikTok? Well yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but what why are they famous? While they
Speaker 1: eat sandwiches. They eat sandwiches, and they you know, they
Speaker 1: wear jewelry. I'm like, well, okay, and that whole world.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I again, I go back to my long standing position,
Speaker 1: it would be my dying position that it is all
Speaker 1: the matrix. It is all the matrix. It's all the
Speaker 1: algorithms and the you know, the the hand picked influencers
Speaker 1: and all that. It's you know, take the blue pill.
Speaker 1: The story ends, a lot of people love to take
Speaker 1: the other pill. They like to stay and take the
Speaker 1: red pill and just stay in in wonderland. But you know,
Speaker 1: the kid from Liberty was he seemed like he has
Speaker 1: a good mindset. I was trying to he was asking
Speaker 1: for advice, and I was like, well, it's a lot
Speaker 1: different now than when I got into the business, because
Speaker 1: when I got into the business, the one path you
Speaker 1: had to be an intern and you had to network,
Speaker 1: and you had to work your way up at the bottom.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that you necessarily have to do
Speaker 1: that now, but I'm I was like, that's to me,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But you can also get your own
Speaker 1: following and do a YouTube thing or something like that,
Speaker 1: or a podcast, and I create your own brand. And
Speaker 1: see how that works. Now, speaking of your own brand,
Speaker 1: I don't know that I mentioned this on the podcast.
Speaker 1: If I did, Dany just kick me in the nuts
Speaker 1: and I will stop. But I saw this recently and
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about it. I don't think we brought it
Speaker 1: up on the podcast The Top forty. Did we talk
Speaker 1: about the Top forty in radio and how that began?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I don't think we did, right, No, not with me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure I didn't do that with the
Speaker 1: Vegan Yeah, so yeah, I don't think I did. So.
Speaker 1: I saw this recently and it caught my attention. I
Speaker 1: was like, I wanted to highlight it because I think
Speaker 1: it's one of those interesting, cool stories that will like
Speaker 1: because we're both radio nerds. But then the people that
Speaker 1: listen to this are they're into it, right, You listen
Speaker 1: to a podcast a spin off of the Overnight Show,
Speaker 1: so you got to be a little bit into it,
Speaker 1: I would think. So the history of Top forty radio,
Speaker 1: how did it begin? And this is still a popular format,
Speaker 1: not that music radio is doing particularly great, but even
Speaker 1: the streaming services they do a version of the Top forty.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they call it that I don't
Speaker 1: if they're allowed to call that. So Top forty radio
Speaker 1: started in Omaha, Nebraska, of all places. Didn't start in
Speaker 1: New York, didn't started in LA didn't start at some
Speaker 1: music revolution in some small grunge place in Seattle or Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 1: It started in Omaha, Nebraska's where it began. And the
Speaker 1: story is. And I was like, this is kind of
Speaker 1: ridiculous when somebody told me it. And then I went
Speaker 1: and I looked, did a little research, filled down a
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. I was like, oh, that's actually true. Get
Speaker 1: to the point, please. So this guy that ran the
Speaker 1: radio station, this guy Todd, we'll call him. He ran
Speaker 1: the radio station in Omaha, and it was the lowest
Speaker 1: rated radio station in Omaha. They had no one listening.
Speaker 1: No one was listening. So he and his program director
Speaker 1: they were out of the local sawdust joint in a
Speaker 1: spit and saw us joint, and they noticed at this
Speaker 1: local bar in Omaha that the jukebox they only played
Speaker 1: a couple of songs. They kept playing the same songs,
Speaker 1: and they had this epiphany. The guy that was the
Speaker 1: program I was like, wait a minute here, and so
Speaker 1: he went over and they looked up what was being
Speaker 1: played on. They looked at the play sheet on the
Speaker 1: jukebox and it was like they took the top thirty songs.
Speaker 1: They later added ten more to make it to the
Speaker 1: top forty, and then they just started playing those and
Speaker 1: those are the only songs they played. And all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, they just played the same songs. They were
Speaker 1: popular songs. And that station went from dead last in
Speaker 1: the market in the ratings in Omaha, and they became
Speaker 1: the number one station in a very short amount of
Speaker 1: time because of that. And that was the This is
Speaker 1: in the late fifties, I believe, I think it was
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. By the early nineteen sixties, it was in
Speaker 1: every market, every single radio market, at top forty radios.
Speaker 3: And you do not like this, to hate that formatt
Speaker 3: with a passion, actually, because my argument with general managers
Speaker 3: was always well, obviously fast forward to the digital age,
Speaker 3: my argument was always kids and adults listening have way
Speaker 3: more songs in their iPod than what you're trying to
Speaker 3: let me play off my playlist. Come on, we have
Speaker 3: to be the experts in music and have a big
Speaker 3: music library. So it's that radio station's fault, I guess
Speaker 3: that you see and I understand, and when it's a
Speaker 3: small sample size, when people only listen for a couple
Speaker 3: of minutes, and that would be programmers across the country.
Speaker 3: That was their argument for years. Well, the average person
Speaker 3: listens for five minutes and thirty seconds, So we're gonna
Speaker 3: play the same song three times in one hour? What
Speaker 3: about the radio heads like us and our listeners who
Speaker 3: like to listen for long stretches.
Speaker 1: No, I hear you. It is an odd quirk about
Speaker 1: human beings. Though. The same thing happened back when everyone
Speaker 1: had cable television, that people would have two hundred channels,
Speaker 1: and the average number of channels that people actually watched
Speaker 1: is about twelve. Even though they have all these options,
Speaker 1: it's a very small number of things that you actually
Speaker 1: you actually are here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but for those couple of channels I watch, I
Speaker 3: want a lot of variety on each of those channels
Speaker 3: in that genre that I like. I don't want Ridiculousness
Speaker 3: on MTV playing back to back to back to back
Speaker 3: to back episodes. You know that that's their trick. Now
Speaker 3: they do like a Ridiculousness marathon and that's all they
Speaker 3: play all weekend, is just that show. Over and over.
Speaker 1: But we have seen to play Devil's advocate Danny. We
Speaker 1: have seen when streaming services will release a series, they'll
Speaker 1: do a drop and people will just sit there and
Speaker 1: binge watch that show. I know it's different episodes, but
Speaker 1: they'll binge watch. Yeah, like all of Saturday. They'll watch
Speaker 1: every freaking episode of some show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta get all the episodes change if it
Speaker 3: was the same episode over and over again. And you know,
Speaker 3: I Hey, I built my FM career off of breaking
Speaker 3: new songs and new artists and having a big fat library.
Speaker 3: When competition in my marketplace in southern California had fifty
Speaker 3: five songs they rotated, I had five thousand songs in
Speaker 3: my library, and so my station was known for digging
Speaker 3: deep and so the music heads and all the people
Speaker 3: who really loved music gravitated to my station and we
Speaker 3: saw huge ratings because of it. So it works both ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it does. I'm trying to think like
Speaker 1: the music that I and I'm not a music guy,
Speaker 1: but you're the music I'm not. But when I do
Speaker 1: listen to music when I'm getting ready for the show,
Speaker 1: but I've like crappy classical music, which nobody else listens
Speaker 1: to other than me, and then it's kind of background this,
Speaker 1: but then I'm out walk.
Speaker 3: You're a Johnny Cash fan, so you're good.
Speaker 1: I do love Johnny Cash.
Speaker 3: I love the Man in Black, and yeah, I told
Speaker 3: Lorrena that, by the way, I was like, play Metallica
Speaker 3: for Eddie once in a while and play Johnny Cash
Speaker 3: every week for big bands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, sure, and so but the songs
Speaker 1: I do, I'll concede dandy. I get burned out. I
Speaker 1: get burned out. Like there's some songs back in the
Speaker 1: old days that were great songs, but I've heard them
Speaker 1: so many times i just fast forward through them because
Speaker 1: it's like I've already I've heard that enough. I can
Speaker 1: i can check out of this life. And I'm good.
Speaker 1: I've heard that song. I know how it.
Speaker 3: Goes, and yeah, you know. I would hold weekly music
Speaker 3: meetings with not just my staff. I would invite some
Speaker 3: listeners every week and in our conference room we would
Speaker 3: play the music on some nice speakers. I would cater
Speaker 3: the lunch with free food for everybody that came, and
Speaker 3: I'd let them vote on the songs that were getting
Speaker 3: burned out and the new songs. And it's interesting because
Speaker 3: there's certain songs where you hear it more than ten times,
Speaker 3: you start liking it even more. And then there are
Speaker 3: songs where you hear it more than ten times, and
Speaker 3: each time you hear it, you like it less.
Speaker 1: Isn't that the old was that the Limbaugh trick or
Speaker 1: the Howard Stern trick where somebody would call up and like,
Speaker 1: I don't like your show, and they'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: give me two weeks and then make your decision right,
Speaker 1: because if you do something for two weeks, you formed
Speaker 1: the habit right, and then you're more likely not all
Speaker 1: the time, but more. He actually takes about sixty days
Speaker 1: to form a real habit, but two weeks he's kind
Speaker 1: of do it, and he's part of your routine and
Speaker 1: you listen and all that, and you're like, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'll tune in. This is part of my part of
Speaker 1: my deal turned out for the phrase all the Louis
Speaker 1: phrase of the week, and I am happy to report
Speaker 1: Danny that we have a request for the phrase of
Speaker 1: the week.
Speaker 3: And usually you're like, Casey Caseum, right now.
Speaker 1: Play the hits. Yes, that's right, the great Casey Caseum
Speaker 1: we had one of the producers, one of the young producers,
Speaker 1: was in.
Speaker 4: Tempo record Yeah Dying, and I was I was trying
Speaker 4: to explain, like I was like, oh yeah, me and
Speaker 4: Eddie were telling the famous Casey casem story.
Speaker 1: Were almost killed Casey but he is dead now and uh.
Speaker 1: And this guy had no idea who Casey. Case was like,
Speaker 1: this is you know, yeah, I mean Casey's been dead
Speaker 1: for a while. I get it, but that guy was
Speaker 1: such a huge deal in music radio.
Speaker 3: And if your parents did not teach you about Casey Kaseum,
Speaker 3: they need to be disowned.
Speaker 1: Keep your feet on the ground, keep reaching for the stuff.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so this request from Mike, a loyal podcast minion.
Speaker 1: He's a cub fan from Fort Wayne, Indiana. Fort Wayne
Speaker 1: used to have an NBA team back in the day,
Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, and he said, with the start of the
Speaker 1: baseball season, he thought it would be appropriate if we
Speaker 1: could look up the origin of a can of corn cannicorn.
Speaker 1: You know what that is any baseball right canicorn? Basic
Speaker 1: play routine play the phrase a can of corn. It originated,
Speaker 1: you know what? It started at the grocery store. How
Speaker 1: about that? The legend is the term can of corn
Speaker 1: not a baseball term. Not a baseball term. It started
Speaker 1: as a term from the grocery business. And back in
Speaker 1: the old days, these giant grocery stores, they'd have cans
Speaker 1: at the very top, and to pull down the cans,
Speaker 1: the can goods from the very high shelves, they used
Speaker 1: a hook. They had a system where they used hooks
Speaker 1: because they couldn't reach and so they had a hook
Speaker 1: and then they'd pull the can and the can would
Speaker 1: fall and they'd put their apron out to catch the can.
Speaker 1: And so system from I know, right, it was kind
Speaker 1: of hokey, but they yeah. If you can imagine, like
Speaker 1: some classic right out of Hollywood, shopkeeper at a grocery
Speaker 1: store with an apron on and somebody say, can I
Speaker 1: get that can of corn. It's at the very top.
Speaker 1: I can't reach it, No problem, sir. Let me get
Speaker 1: my trusty hook and I'll go over there and I'll
Speaker 1: pull the can down and then they use their apron
Speaker 1: to catch it like a flyball in baseball. And that
Speaker 1: is how the term it spread to baseball. But it
Speaker 1: is interesting to note to Mike and fort Wayne from
Speaker 1: the research that I did, the phrase can of corn
Speaker 1: didn't originate until the ninth teen thirties. It was first
Speaker 1: recorded in the nineteen thirties. Baseball started in the eighteen sixties,
Speaker 1: so I think late eighteen sixties. So that means that
Speaker 1: the phrase can of corn was not used in baseball
Speaker 1: because it wasn't part of baseball. It wasn't something that
Speaker 1: was regularly used for the first sixty or sixty five
Speaker 1: years of baseball's existence, right, and then after that it
Speaker 1: was used. So anyway, the phrase of the week can
Speaker 1: of corn the phrase of the week thanks to Mike
Speaker 1: in four Wayne, if you have a phrase, you're curious
Speaker 1: about it, you want to hear us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool because I remember Vince. I remember
Speaker 3: Vin Scully using that.
Speaker 1: Vincent Scully, Great, Vin Scully, throw your sombrero in the air.
Speaker 3: Dang it, I miss Vin Scully.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the same same.
Speaker 3: It's not.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to rip anybody, as you know, Danny,
Speaker 1: but which means I'm about to rip someone.
Speaker 3: I know where you're headed. I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have the sound up when I'm watching
Speaker 1: a Dodger game on TV. Let's just put it that way.
Speaker 1: About that, all right? Is that fair to say?
Speaker 3: There's good moments and some moments with radio and TV
Speaker 3: with the Dodgers. Right now, it's just not really you know,
Speaker 3: but it's a hard act to follow. It's like, you know,
Speaker 3: when you finally pass over, who's gonna replace you on
Speaker 3: the legendary overnights. It's never gonna live up to the Mallard.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: I already know can of soup is.
Speaker 3: Going to replace me.
Speaker 1: I've already had it happen. The soup will be and
Speaker 1: that is what's going to happen. So I've already seen that.
Speaker 3: Movie, David, I like from all of the best moments
Speaker 3: from the daytime show. Yes, yes, and it'll take veto
Speaker 3: four hours to put it all together, and he.
Speaker 1: Will not be paid any more money, but yes.
Speaker 3: And he will revolt within one month and then dollars
Speaker 3: ashes will be put back on the counter in the
Speaker 3: main studio exactly.
Speaker 1: So they now that was a rip off. What was
Speaker 1: the show? I don't think that shows on anymore.
Speaker 3: They tried to know it was e television suit.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, so they try to copy that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's not on right, they.
Speaker 3: Got No, I don't think it's there any longer. Of course,
Speaker 3: in its heyday it was Greg kinnear. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: who became a famous actor. That's right, still a famous actor.
Speaker 1: He's not dead, no, just not really doing much, right,
Speaker 1: What if those guys make enough money, they don't have
Speaker 1: to do anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a multi millionaire, multi multi millionaire now, yeah.
Speaker 1: Just like us radio guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: They play his old shows.
Speaker 3: And they started on E and you and I started
Speaker 3: on FM radio station. Same thing.
Speaker 1: It's all the same. It's media entertainment. We'll get out
Speaker 1: on that. It's it's Friday, so I'm already done with
Speaker 1: the overnight and all that. You've got work today, yes, Danny's.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, extra work today, Ben, because we are traveling
Speaker 3: again again. Yeah we are. We are busy. Amazon they
Speaker 3: took over for ESPN for the PBC the Pro Boxing Championships,
Speaker 3: and that is in Vegas tomorrow on Saturday, and so
Speaker 3: Amazon Prime is having us out there to broadcast live
Speaker 3: from their radio row of boxing at the MGM. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna produce this fine podcast and then get on
Speaker 3: a plane and get our butts to Vegas to broadcast
Speaker 3: the afternoon show live from two to four on the
Speaker 3: West Side, and that's five to seven pm in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, beautiful Richmond, Virginia, which is not
Speaker 1: that far away from Liberty University.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're you smoking, kid.
Speaker 1: It's all tied together. It's all tied together. I have
Speaker 1: a great day. We'll kiss you tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Asta pasta, gotta murder, I gotta go.