1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Cut booms. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 2: of the old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: The clearing House of Hot takes break free for something special. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now. 10 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: In the air eywhere and welcome into another weekend of 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: the Fifth Hour with me Ben and over there is Danny, 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: and we're hanging out here on Normally on Fridays we 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: kind of futs around with the holidays and all that. 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: But this is kind of a big holiday today, being 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the twenty ninth day of March and this being Easter weekend. 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: So I think we know the big holiday today. It's 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Good Friday, Danny. Maybe people celebrating Good Friday. The odd 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 1: thing to me, though, is that there's other holidays on 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: this date that are just that that it's just the 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: way it is. There's Mermaid Day today. I don't know 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: how you celebrate Mermaid. I've been to the Mermaid in Minnesota. 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: There was the bar we went to and had the 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: malor meet and greet was at the Mermaid. 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: Makes me think of the old Tom Hanks movie Mermaid. 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. It's National Smoking Mirrors Day, like 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: our podcast about Yeah, smoking mirrors, deceptive, Yeah, magic illusions. 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Tony Bruno used to use that line all the time 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: when he worked at Fox Sports Radio. Who Smoking Mirrors? 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Talking about smoking mirrors quite a bit? National? 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: Was it? 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: Niagara Falls runs dry day today? So that's that. I 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: can I can read more if you want. It's now 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: I've been to night. Have you you've been in i 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Or Falls? Haven't you? 35 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: No? 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: I've been there right on the border with Canada, Ontario. 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: It said, commemorates the time Niagara Falls ran dry because 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: of ice blocking the falls in eighteen forty eight. Okay, 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: the thing that pulls me away about Niagara Falls is 40 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: it's very impressive and it's cool and you go on 41 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: the boat and they give you a rain slicker and 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: you go out there and you get a little wet 43 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: and it's cool. But the thing about Nigroa Falls is 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: that they can turn it on and off, which is 45 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: wild to me, Like they have the technology there. This 46 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: thing was formed twelve thousand years ago at the end 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: of the ice age, and they have the ability to 48 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: flip a switch and then that's it. We're good, We're done. 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: That's all she wrote. 50 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: Do you know how they are capable of doing that? 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't. They mentioned it when I was there, but 52 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember exactly what they do. 53 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: But they have a way of directing icually, they must 54 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: direct the water away. 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: Or they were a hotline to god. 56 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, they make a phone call. 57 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: Can you put your karate chop hand down right now? 58 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? They call the they call the you know, the authorities, 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: the proper authorities, and the phone calls are made and 60 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: then then and then that's that. Uh So, I didn't 61 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: want to get into a few things here. Baseball season 62 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: beginning yesterday. The Dawyers, the big Blue wrecking crew, looking 63 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: pretty good in Game one against the Cardinals. But see, 64 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: the thing that's it's upsetting is they they're gonna win 65 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: one hundred games again. But it doesn't really factor into 66 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: what they're going to do in the playoffs. And it's 67 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: still fun to watch though, well, I mean it's enjoyable. 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: They're killing people and they'll do a lot of that. 69 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: The other thing about the Dodgers is that they're going 70 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: to beat so most of the teams in blowouts. They're 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: not going to be in that many close games. If 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: they're in a lot of close games, they've had a 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: bad year, you know what I'm saying. They're you're going 74 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: to win by three or four runs in most of 75 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: the games. But that's not how it goes in the playoffs. 76 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: So then that's another issue. Right. So it's like, you know, 77 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking for things to complain about, Danny, I'm looking 78 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: for things to grumble about, and the Dodgers look like 79 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: there's just going to be an absolute big blue recon 80 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: crew and dominate all year. 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 3: No, you do bring up a good point. Yesterday afternoon, 82 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 3: Coveno and Rich were talking about as long as you 83 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 3: stay above water, your head above water, you are a 84 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 3: little bit above five hundred going into All Star weekend. Really, 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: the stretch run is what matters the most in Major 86 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: League Baseball because we've seen it time and time again, 87 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: the teams that go on a run late in the 88 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: season and have your favorite word, the momentum going in. 89 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Now, there's no such thing as though there is confidence. 90 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: In the last two years in baseball, a number six 91 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: seed got to the World Series, the Philadelphia Phillies, and 92 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: this past year it was the the Arizona Diamondbacks. Couple 93 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: of years you've seen teams that were at the bottom, 94 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: last team in, but you really have to stink to 95 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: not make the playoffs six of you do the math 96 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: on this. There's fourteen teams in each league, right, there's 97 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: six of the fourteen get in, three division winners and 98 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: three wildcards. So you have to be you know, you 99 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: have to be pretty bad not to make it. 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: But we will. 101 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays. And there's always the wild 102 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: card of show. Hey Otani and what's gonna happen? Do 103 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: the Feds find something? Is there something to find about Otani? 104 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: It's a bad sign. We mentioned this on the Overnight 105 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: Show last night, Danny. It's it's a bad sign that 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: he hired one of Harvey Weinstein's fixers. Immediately. That is 107 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: not a good sign. I mean that is, you know, 108 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: the guy Otani got contact his agent got contacted by 109 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: the La Times saying hey, we got something on your 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: guy that he's involved in some gambling. Then the they 111 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: get a phone call from this Manhattan fixer that is 112 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: the like the top New York Hollywood fixer, and he's 113 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: the guy. Remember when Johnny Depp a couple of years 114 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: ago got he was dragged through the mud because of that. 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Amber heard trial that that's the guy, the guy that 116 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Otani hires, the guy that cleaned up Johnny Depp. Alec 117 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: Baldwin has been involved in some stuff. I mean, this 118 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: guy is a legend in entertainment and you know New York, LA, 119 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: that's the guy O Taani higher. Like again, it is 120 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: one of these things like what are you doing? It's 121 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: is there something there? Why are you acting like there's 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: something there? And maybe there's nothing there. 123 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: At least Johnny Depp came out clean on the other 124 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: side of that whole thing. 125 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: Remember, Yeah, people saw the trial and Amber heard. They 126 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: realized she's kind of messed up. You know, she got 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: some It would appear she has some issues. Most people 128 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: seem to think, at least, as I recall, is heard, 129 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: there you go, it could be his Otani's Amber heard. 130 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: So I had an interesting week this week. Yesterday I 131 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: decided a multitask. I thought I would get some exercise 132 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: in I had been requested in New Zealand on a 133 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: sports radio show. They wanted to talk about the Sweet sixteen. 134 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: They want to talk about this, the basketball playoffs in 135 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: the NBA that were coming up and opening Day. They 136 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: were like, wow, this is a big time in American sports. 137 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: We want you to come on in Auckland, New Zealand. 138 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: So I said, all right, whatever, but I wanted to 139 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,119 Speaker 1: get some steps in, so I was like, oh, I'll 140 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: go out and fill a walk and then I don't 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: know exactly when they're going to want me, so i'll 142 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: be I'll just walk around and then we had a 143 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: rough time the producers. I think we'll have you on 144 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: you know what else sounds like fine, whatever, I'll just 145 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: walk and then when they call me, I'll pull off 146 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: to the side and I'll do it. And it's a 147 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: beautiful day in southern California, just perfect spring day, not 148 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: too cold, not too hot. It's wonderful. So I'm walking 149 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: la la la. Phone phone rings, you know, we we 150 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: use on the international thing they use the WhatsApp. Is 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: that what it's called the Yeah, yeah it is. So 152 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: I never use it unless they call me. So they're like, well, 153 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: we had a clearer connection on the WhatsApp. So I say, whatever, 154 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: fund so uh, guy calls up and said, we're just 155 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: gonna have you for a few minutes, no problem. I said, sure, 156 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: no problem. I don't ask me anything. 157 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: I don't care. 158 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: H So I pulled off this side. Now I'm walking 159 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: like on a trail and I pull off to the side. 160 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: So then they're asking me in the usual standard stuff 161 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, whatever, you know, I'm busting. I'm 162 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: throwing out you know, silly words and you know, having 163 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: fun and goofing around. And there was one moment where 164 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: I got very lucky because they they they knew I 165 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: know nothing about the local beloved sport in New Zealand, 166 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: which is like Rugby, so I really know much about that. 167 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: But they were like doing some bit where they were 168 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: opening something up because it was even though I did 169 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: this yesterday, it was it was Friday, so I've already 170 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: been on in New Zealand radio on Friday because because 171 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: we did this yesterday, but the time difference. So anyways, 172 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: the guy's like, hey, I'm opening this like this Easter egg, 173 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: and in the middle of the egg is a team 174 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: name from one of the New Zealand teams, and he says, 175 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: I know you're in America and you don't know anything 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: about this. Can you name one of the teams in 177 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: this league? So what I did is I channeled no 178 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,199 Speaker 1: stradamas As. You know, I'm a distant relative of no 179 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: Stra Damas and friend of Nostradenas, so I channeled this. 180 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: And you mean Nicodema's right, No, no, no, that's that's 181 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: that's your friend. But so Dan, in my head, I'm like, 182 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to use the process of elimination. I'm like, 183 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: what is the most popular team names around the world. 184 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, well, in America, it's a lot of bulldogs. 185 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot of that wildcats, but I don't think 186 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: that's as popular around the world. Dogs and wildcats. And 187 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: then for some reason, I pulled this out of my tookes. 188 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: I said Warriors and they were shocked. They were like 189 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: blown away by that because that's apparently the national team 190 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: is called the Warriors there, and they were like unbelievable. 191 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know if I had that subliminally in 192 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: my head, because during the pandemic, when I was so 193 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: desperate to find anything to watch, I fell down a 194 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: rabbit hole where I was watching like Ozzie Rules football 195 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: New Zealand rugby stuff during the pandemic. But that's been 196 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: four years. Yeah, so it's been. 197 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 3: It was in between your Marvel competitions. 198 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: I did do marble racing monologues, which I'm very proud 199 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: of and I should have won a Marconi Award for that. 200 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing that I did not. But so I'm doing 201 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: this and then they were very happy I answered that, 202 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: and so we're going back and forth. They even asked 203 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: me about hockey and I'm like, oh man, that's a 204 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: tough one. But I tried to answer it. I was 205 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: able to use bulk fucky to get through that. So 206 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: then we're going back and forth and then all of 207 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: a sudden, lights and sirens. He remember, I'm outside. I'm outside. 208 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: I'm doing this outside and there was a fire truck 209 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: that decided they had to go to a I guess 210 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: a fire cherry tops. Lights, sirens poom. So they're like 211 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: they didn't realize I was outside. They're like, what is 212 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: going on? There was like a big big to do. Well, 213 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know exactly what's going on, but 214 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: maybe they're coming to get me. And then they were like, well, 215 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: we know you Americans don't like US, US down here 216 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: in our us Kiwi's And I was like, eh, I 217 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: don't know, do we does America not like New Zealand. 218 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: I have nothing against New Zealand. 219 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 3: I've never heard anything bad about New Zealand. I think 220 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 3: they were talking. 221 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: About the politics, which are messed up. But my opinion, 222 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: politics are messed up pretty much everywhere. So but yeah, 223 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: it was kind of I was like, yeah, you know, 224 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: like some of the stuff about US, I was like, ah, 225 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm good that guy. I got nothing. I 226 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: got nothing bad to say about that. You know, nothing 227 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: nothing bad. 228 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 3: Blank my blank and blank you. 229 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: That was my my chat with our friends. I also 230 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: did something I haven't done very often. I haven't done 231 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: this in years. I got a request to be the 232 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: focal point of a I guess we'll call it give 233 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: me Liberty or give me a podcast. So I spoke 234 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: at Liberty University remotely. I didn't actually go to Virginia, 235 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: but I smoke. I spoke over I did like a 236 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: video conference thing. 237 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 3: You're gonna say you smoked with the kids. 238 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: I did, but it's I don't think you're allowed to 239 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: smoke at that school, or you will be struck by 240 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: lightning because it's a high falutin religious place. But anyway, 241 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: so this kid will emailed me, Hey, I'm a senior. 242 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to graduate in May, and I want to 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: I want to do what you do, and I want 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: to I want to be in radio, television, whatever. So 245 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a conversation and recorded for my 246 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: senior projects. So I was like, all right, this is exciting, 247 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: so give me Liberty, give me the podcast. So I 248 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: went on with him, and he asked me a bunch 249 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: of questions. But then I got I got into a 250 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: bit of a tussle with him, Danny, because he's a 251 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: fan of a team I don't like in basketball, and 252 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: that annoyed me. But then he absolutely gave me the 253 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: atomic elbow because he was asking me about my career 254 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I worked, you know. I 255 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: was talking about some of the places I worked, and 256 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: then I was like, well, I started a Fox Sports 257 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: radio in like two thousand, in the end of two thousand, 258 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: in early two thousand and one, and then I worked, 259 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: blah blah, I going through the whole thing. He's like, 260 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: you've been there longer than I've been alive. 261 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: Off the top rope. 262 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: Oh, just get me a body bag. I mean it 263 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: was just vicious. Oh I mean, oh, and he's he's 264 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: talking about like it was a little kid watching Kobe 265 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Bryant for the Lake. I'm like, oh, man, I was 266 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: at those games. They're like, oh crap, you know. I 267 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: was like, that's pretty pretty crazy. But it was fun. 268 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: I had a good time doing it. 269 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: And yeah, and I feel like you and I Ben, 270 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: we lived in an era that kids loved to look at, 271 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: in which they had seen it with their own eyes, 272 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like, Yeah, music was better, 273 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: movies were better. Some of our athletes were stars that 274 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 3: kids right now can't even comprehend. 275 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything changed with social media. There's a lot more 276 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: famous people now, but they're not nearly as famous as 277 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: the people we were. 278 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're stupid famous like influencers. 279 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Like there's people that claim to have and 280 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: maybe they do, hundreds of thousands, millions of followers and 281 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: you have no idea who they are. They could walk 282 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: right in front of you back and forth on a 283 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: catwalk and you're like, who, whether they're on TikTok? Well yeah, 284 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: I know, but what why are they famous? While they 285 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: eat sandwiches. They eat sandwiches, and they you know, they 286 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: wear jewelry. I'm like, well, okay, and that whole world. 287 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: Man. 288 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: I again, I go back to my long standing position, 289 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: it would be my dying position that it is all 290 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: the matrix. It is all the matrix. It's all the 291 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: algorithms and the you know, the the hand picked influencers 292 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: and all that. It's you know, take the blue pill. 293 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: The story ends, a lot of people love to take 294 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: the other pill. They like to stay and take the 295 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: red pill and just stay in in wonderland. But you know, 296 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: the kid from Liberty was he seemed like he has 297 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: a good mindset. I was trying to he was asking 298 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: for advice, and I was like, well, it's a lot 299 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: different now than when I got into the business, because 300 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: when I got into the business, the one path you 301 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: had to be an intern and you had to network, 302 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: and you had to work your way up at the bottom. 303 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: And I don't know that you necessarily have to do 304 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: that now, but I'm I was like, that's to me, 305 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: that makes sense. But you can also get your own 306 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: following and do a YouTube thing or something like that, 307 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: or a podcast, and I create your own brand. And 308 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: see how that works. Now, speaking of your own brand, 309 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that I mentioned this on the podcast. 310 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: If I did, Dany just kick me in the nuts 311 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: and I will stop. But I saw this recently and 312 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about it. I don't think we brought it 313 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: up on the podcast The Top forty. Did we talk 314 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: about the Top forty in radio and how that began? 315 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 3: No? 316 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: I don't think we did, right, No, not with me. Yeah, 317 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure I didn't do that with the 318 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: Vegan Yeah, so yeah, I don't think I did. So. 319 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I saw this recently and it caught my attention. I 320 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: was like, I wanted to highlight it because I think 321 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: it's one of those interesting, cool stories that will like 322 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: because we're both radio nerds. But then the people that 323 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: listen to this are they're into it, right, You listen 324 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: to a podcast a spin off of the Overnight Show, 325 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: so you got to be a little bit into it, 326 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: I would think. So the history of Top forty radio, 327 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: how did it begin? And this is still a popular format, 328 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: not that music radio is doing particularly great, but even 329 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: the streaming services they do a version of the Top forty. 330 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if they call it that I don't 331 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: if they're allowed to call that. So Top forty radio 332 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: started in Omaha, Nebraska, of all places. Didn't start in 333 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: New York, didn't started in LA didn't start at some 334 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: music revolution in some small grunge place in Seattle or Portland, Oregon. 335 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: It started in Omaha, Nebraska's where it began. And the 336 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: story is. And I was like, this is kind of 337 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: ridiculous when somebody told me it. And then I went 338 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: and I looked, did a little research, filled down a 339 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: rabbit hole. I was like, oh, that's actually true. Get 340 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: to the point, please. So this guy that ran the 341 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: radio station, this guy Todd, we'll call him. He ran 342 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: the radio station in Omaha, and it was the lowest 343 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: rated radio station in Omaha. They had no one listening. 344 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: No one was listening. So he and his program director 345 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: they were out of the local sawdust joint in a 346 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: spit and saw us joint, and they noticed at this 347 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: local bar in Omaha that the jukebox they only played 348 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: a couple of songs. They kept playing the same songs, 349 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: and they had this epiphany. The guy that was the 350 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,239 Speaker 1: program I was like, wait a minute here, and so 351 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: he went over and they looked up what was being 352 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: played on. They looked at the play sheet on the 353 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: jukebox and it was like they took the top thirty songs. 354 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: They later added ten more to make it to the 355 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: top forty, and then they just started playing those and 356 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: those are the only songs they played. And all of 357 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: a sudden, they just played the same songs. They were 358 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: popular songs. And that station went from dead last in 359 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: the market in the ratings in Omaha, and they became 360 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: the number one station in a very short amount of 361 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: time because of that. And that was the This is 362 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: in the late fifties, I believe, I think it was 363 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. By the early nineteen sixties, it was in 364 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: every market, every single radio market, at top forty radios. 365 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: And you do not like this, to hate that formatt 366 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 3: with a passion, actually, because my argument with general managers 367 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: was always well, obviously fast forward to the digital age, 368 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 3: my argument was always kids and adults listening have way 369 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: more songs in their iPod than what you're trying to 370 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 3: let me play off my playlist. Come on, we have 371 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 3: to be the experts in music and have a big 372 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: music library. So it's that radio station's fault, I guess 373 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 3: that you see and I understand, and when it's a 374 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: small sample size, when people only listen for a couple 375 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: of minutes, and that would be programmers across the country. 376 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: That was their argument for years. Well, the average person 377 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: listens for five minutes and thirty seconds, So we're gonna 378 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: play the same song three times in one hour? What 379 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: about the radio heads like us and our listeners who 380 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: like to listen for long stretches. 381 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: No, I hear you. It is an odd quirk about 382 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: human beings. Though. The same thing happened back when everyone 383 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: had cable television, that people would have two hundred channels, 384 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: and the average number of channels that people actually watched 385 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: is about twelve. Even though they have all these options, 386 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: it's a very small number of things that you actually 387 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: you actually are here. 388 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, but for those couple of channels I watch, I 389 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 3: want a lot of variety on each of those channels 390 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 3: in that genre that I like. I don't want Ridiculousness 391 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: on MTV playing back to back to back to back 392 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: to back episodes. You know that that's their trick. Now 393 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: they do like a Ridiculousness marathon and that's all they 394 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 3: play all weekend, is just that show. Over and over. 395 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: But we have seen to play Devil's advocate Danny. We 396 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: have seen when streaming services will release a series, they'll 397 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: do a drop and people will just sit there and 398 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: binge watch that show. I know it's different episodes, but 399 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: they'll binge watch. Yeah, like all of Saturday. They'll watch 400 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: every freaking episode of some show. 401 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta get all the episodes change if it 402 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 3: was the same episode over and over again. And you know, 403 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: I Hey, I built my FM career off of breaking 404 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: new songs and new artists and having a big fat library. 405 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 3: When competition in my marketplace in southern California had fifty 406 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: five songs they rotated, I had five thousand songs in 407 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 3: my library, and so my station was known for digging 408 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 3: deep and so the music heads and all the people 409 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 3: who really loved music gravitated to my station and we 410 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: saw huge ratings because of it. So it works both ways. 411 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it does. I'm trying to think like 412 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: the music that I and I'm not a music guy, 413 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: but you're the music I'm not. But when I do 414 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: listen to music when I'm getting ready for the show, 415 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: but I've like crappy classical music, which nobody else listens 416 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: to other than me, and then it's kind of background this, 417 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: but then I'm out walk. 418 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: You're a Johnny Cash fan, so you're good. 419 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: I do love Johnny Cash. 420 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 3: I love the Man in Black, and yeah, I told 421 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: Lorrena that, by the way, I was like, play Metallica 422 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 3: for Eddie once in a while and play Johnny Cash 423 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: every week for big bands. 424 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, sure, and so but the songs 425 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: I do, I'll concede dandy. I get burned out. I 426 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: get burned out. Like there's some songs back in the 427 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: old days that were great songs, but I've heard them 428 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: so many times i just fast forward through them because 429 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: it's like I've already I've heard that enough. I can 430 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: i can check out of this life. And I'm good. 431 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: I've heard that song. I know how it. 432 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 3: Goes, and yeah, you know. I would hold weekly music 433 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 3: meetings with not just my staff. I would invite some 434 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 3: listeners every week and in our conference room we would 435 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 3: play the music on some nice speakers. I would cater 436 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 3: the lunch with free food for everybody that came, and 437 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 3: I'd let them vote on the songs that were getting 438 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: burned out and the new songs. And it's interesting because 439 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 3: there's certain songs where you hear it more than ten times, 440 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 3: you start liking it even more. And then there are 441 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 3: songs where you hear it more than ten times, and 442 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 3: each time you hear it, you like it less. 443 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: Isn't that the old was that the Limbaugh trick or 444 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: the Howard Stern trick where somebody would call up and like, 445 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: I don't like your show, and they'd be like, well, 446 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: give me two weeks and then make your decision right, 447 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: because if you do something for two weeks, you formed 448 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: the habit right, and then you're more likely not all 449 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: the time, but more. He actually takes about sixty days 450 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: to form a real habit, but two weeks he's kind 451 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: of do it, and he's part of your routine and 452 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: you listen and all that, and you're like, I'm good, 453 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: I'll tune in. This is part of my part of 454 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: my deal turned out for the phrase all the Louis 455 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: phrase of the week, and I am happy to report 456 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Danny that we have a request for the phrase of 457 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: the week. 458 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 3: And usually you're like, Casey Caseum, right now. 459 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: Play the hits. Yes, that's right, the great Casey Caseum 460 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: we had one of the producers, one of the young producers, 461 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: was in. 462 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: Tempo record Yeah Dying, and I was I was trying 463 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: to explain, like I was like, oh yeah, me and 464 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 4: Eddie were telling the famous Casey casem story. 465 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: Were almost killed Casey but he is dead now and uh. 466 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: And this guy had no idea who Casey. Case was like, 467 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: this is you know, yeah, I mean Casey's been dead 468 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: for a while. I get it, but that guy was 469 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: such a huge deal in music radio. 470 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: And if your parents did not teach you about Casey Kaseum, 471 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: they need to be disowned. 472 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Keep your feet on the ground, keep reaching for the stuff. 473 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: But anyway, so this request from Mike, a loyal podcast minion. 474 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 1: He's a cub fan from Fort Wayne, Indiana. Fort Wayne 475 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: used to have an NBA team back in the day, 476 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Fort Wayne, and he said, with the start of the 477 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: baseball season, he thought it would be appropriate if we 478 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 1: could look up the origin of a can of corn cannicorn. 479 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: You know what that is any baseball right canicorn? Basic 480 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: play routine play the phrase a can of corn. It originated, 481 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: you know what? It started at the grocery store. How 482 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: about that? The legend is the term can of corn 483 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: not a baseball term. Not a baseball term. It started 484 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: as a term from the grocery business. And back in 485 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: the old days, these giant grocery stores, they'd have cans 486 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: at the very top, and to pull down the cans, 487 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: the can goods from the very high shelves, they used 488 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: a hook. They had a system where they used hooks 489 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: because they couldn't reach and so they had a hook 490 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: and then they'd pull the can and the can would 491 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: fall and they'd put their apron out to catch the can. 492 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: And so system from I know, right, it was kind 493 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: of hokey, but they yeah. If you can imagine, like 494 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: some classic right out of Hollywood, shopkeeper at a grocery 495 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: store with an apron on and somebody say, can I 496 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: get that can of corn. It's at the very top. 497 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: I can't reach it, No problem, sir. Let me get 498 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: my trusty hook and I'll go over there and I'll 499 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 1: pull the can down and then they use their apron 500 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: to catch it like a flyball in baseball. And that 501 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: is how the term it spread to baseball. But it 502 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: is interesting to note to Mike and fort Wayne from 503 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: the research that I did, the phrase can of corn 504 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: didn't originate until the ninth teen thirties. It was first 505 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: recorded in the nineteen thirties. Baseball started in the eighteen sixties, 506 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: so I think late eighteen sixties. So that means that 507 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: the phrase can of corn was not used in baseball 508 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: because it wasn't part of baseball. It wasn't something that 509 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: was regularly used for the first sixty or sixty five 510 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: years of baseball's existence, right, and then after that it 511 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: was used. So anyway, the phrase of the week can 512 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: of corn the phrase of the week thanks to Mike 513 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: in four Wayne, if you have a phrase, you're curious 514 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: about it, you want to hear us. 515 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty cool because I remember Vince. I remember 516 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: Vin Scully using that. 517 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Vincent Scully, Great, Vin Scully, throw your sombrero in the air. 518 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 3: Dang it, I miss Vin Scully. 519 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: Man. 520 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not the same same. 521 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: It's not. 522 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: I'm not here to rip anybody, as you know, Danny, 523 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: but which means I'm about to rip someone. 524 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: I know where you're headed. I agree with you. 525 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have the sound up when I'm watching 526 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: a Dodger game on TV. Let's just put it that way. 527 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: About that, all right? Is that fair to say? 528 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: There's good moments and some moments with radio and TV 529 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 3: with the Dodgers. Right now, it's just not really you know, 530 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: but it's a hard act to follow. It's like, you know, 531 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 3: when you finally pass over, who's gonna replace you on 532 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: the legendary overnights. It's never gonna live up to the Mallard. 533 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: I know. 534 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: I already know can of soup is. 535 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 3: Going to replace me. 536 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: I've already had it happen. The soup will be and 537 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: that is what's going to happen. So I've already seen that. 538 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: Movie, David, I like from all of the best moments 539 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: from the daytime show. Yes, yes, and it'll take veto 540 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: four hours to put it all together, and he. 541 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: Will not be paid any more money, but yes. 542 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: And he will revolt within one month and then dollars 543 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 3: ashes will be put back on the counter in the 544 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 3: main studio exactly. 545 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: So they now that was a rip off. What was 546 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: the show? I don't think that shows on anymore. 547 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: They tried to know it was e television suit. 548 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, okay, so they try to copy that, Yeah, 549 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: but that's not on right, they. 550 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: Got No, I don't think it's there any longer. Of course, 551 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: in its heyday it was Greg kinnear. Oh yeah, yeah, 552 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: who became a famous actor. That's right, still a famous actor. 553 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: He's not dead, no, just not really doing much, right, 554 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: What if those guys make enough money, they don't have 555 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: to do anything. 556 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a multi millionaire, multi multi millionaire now, yeah. 557 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: Just like us radio guys. 558 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 559 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: They play his old shows. 560 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: And they started on E and you and I started 561 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: on FM radio station. Same thing. 562 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: It's all the same. It's media entertainment. We'll get out 563 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: on that. It's it's Friday, so I'm already done with 564 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: the overnight and all that. You've got work today, yes, Danny's. 565 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, extra work today, Ben, because we are traveling 566 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: again again. Yeah we are. We are busy. Amazon they 567 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: took over for ESPN for the PBC the Pro Boxing Championships, 568 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: and that is in Vegas tomorrow on Saturday, and so 569 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 3: Amazon Prime is having us out there to broadcast live 570 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: from their radio row of boxing at the MGM. So yeah, 571 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm gonna produce this fine podcast and then get on 572 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: a plane and get our butts to Vegas to broadcast 573 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 3: the afternoon show live from two to four on the 574 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: West Side, and that's five to seven pm in Richmond, Virginia. 575 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, beautiful Richmond, Virginia, which is not 576 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: that far away from Liberty University. 577 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're you smoking, kid. 578 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: It's all tied together. It's all tied together. I have 579 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: a great day. We'll kiss you tomorrow. 580 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 3: Asta pasta, gotta murder, I gotta go.