1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: What's up boys on this best of the Bus episode, 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: a series where we drop a best of every Saturday 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: and recap some of our favorite episodes, throwing it all 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: the way back to when Max Crosby came on the bus. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: The boys were in Vegas before the twenty twenty three 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: season with the one and only Max Crosby, Mad Max 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: just elite specimen specimen of a pass rusher in the NFL. 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: Max opened up about his goals and how he's leveling 9 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: up for next season and what it was like playing 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: with Ab and DeVante Adams. He also gets real on 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: the Derek Carr situation. He will drop a monologue that'll 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: make you run three brick wall and get your piss hot. 13 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Big hugs, tiny kisses. Enjoy this episode. 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Bust with 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: the Boys. Obviously, we are not on the bus right now. 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: We are in a pristine locationknown unknown in Las Vegas, Nevada, 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: at the home of the legendary Max Cross. And if 18 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: you're at home right now, go ahead and give him 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: a round of applause. 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 3: We'll do it too. 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, guys, buddy. 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: This is an outstanding place. I appreciate it. Yeah, when 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: did you move into this residence? 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 4: We moved into May. 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: Yeah. 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: I lived about three minutes away before and me and 27 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: Rachel were looking at houses for a long time and 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: it was a very stressful Brooklyn, very stressful situation. You know, 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: We're going back and forth arguing I'm done. You know. 30 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 4: I was at the point where I'm like, I'm done 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: looking at houses, like until I get my contract, Like 32 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 4: I'm done. And then all of a sudden, my boys 33 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: come in town. We're going to the UFC event that weekend, 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 4: and Rachel's like, there's this one house we got to see, 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: you know whatever. I'm like, I'm done. I'm seriously, I'm done. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: I'm done looking at houses. She pulls me in the car. 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: We're going. We drive around the corner and that was it. 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: We literally put an offer on this house that that 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: same day. So really and this is this house. 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a weird tra was that I said. 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 3: He knew that bag was coming, he knew the bag. 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: But when the bag is not secured yet, you do 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: start playing the game of like, man, I wonder where 44 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: I could get and you start you get on the 45 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: Zillow app and you're looking. 46 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 4: At the things. 47 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: All right, this is what I can get right now. 48 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: But if I get this contract, I could go and 49 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: get that that it's a crazy game you play in 50 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: your head. 51 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: Yes, it's the best. 52 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: Was that like a stressful time for you? Like before 53 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: contract stuff was. 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: Like I wouldn't say stressful, Like it was honestly like 55 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: a good stress Like you know, the situation like it's hard, 56 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 4: you don't know, like you want to get to your number, 57 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 4: like you're really hell bent, okay on this boom, I'm 58 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 4: not going below this. But then in the situation, like 59 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: when it really came down to it, I you know, 60 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 4: you're never going to get exactly what you want. But 61 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I got enough 62 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 4: where I don't have to you know what I mean, 63 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about money anymore. So like 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: that's the ultimate goal. But it's you know, for me, 65 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: it's not really about the money. Like my I've always 66 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: heard from coaches everything, like they're like the second contracts 67 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: what the NFL is all about. And for me, like 68 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 4: I've always thought about, I always try to do above 69 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 4: and beyond, Like my goal is to get a third contract, 70 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 4: like I want to be the highest paid in a 71 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 4: few years. Like that's that's my ultimate goal. So like 72 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 4: this contract was a big deal for me, Like I'm set, 73 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, like I want 74 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: to reset the market. So like that's like my goal 75 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 4: for sure, one of my goals. How long are you 76 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: want to play? Twelve to probably twelve to thirteen just depending. 77 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know, but like I don't, like we 78 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 4: just talked about, I don't ever want to step on 79 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: the field and feel like like not like myself. Like 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: that's what I'll know, Like if I get to that point, 81 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: gonna be done. 82 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Because there are players that, like young when they're younger 83 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: in their career, they play super hard. Like we were 84 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: in the car driving here, and like the adjective I 85 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 2: think we use for you is like, did you play relentless? 86 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 2: You play hard? And when sometimes when dudes play that hard, 87 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: dead puts some wear on the tires. And then dudes 88 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: get older and they have to change up their game 89 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: a little bit, and you're not you don't want to 90 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: sacrifice that. 91 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: No, No, you know, honestly, I've I've always kind of 92 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 4: had that mindset, like ever since I, you know, started 93 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 4: playing football, Like I truly believe there's only one way 94 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: to play. And yeah, if I if I'm playing and 95 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: being cautious about jumping in piles and things like that, 96 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: like I probably shouldn't be playing. And yeah, like I 97 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: just want to look back in my career and be like, yeah, 98 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 4: he put a great body of work. I don't want 99 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 4: the last thing they remember it is like my old 100 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 4: ass trying to bend the edge and falling over and 101 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: stuff like that's the last thing I want, you know, 102 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 4: for me, I really want to go out on my terms, 103 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: because there's most guys don't. And that's kind of the 104 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: hard thing about this business, Like I you know, I'm 105 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 4: not in control. I don't know you know, what's going 106 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: to happen in the future, but like I know the 107 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: preparation I put into it. I do everything I can 108 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 4: to try to be at my best and be able 109 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 4: to play that way. So you know, that's kind of 110 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 4: my my long term goals. But I'm just literally just 111 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: trying to stay in the present. That's it. 112 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like how do you know? You know 113 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 3: what I mean? 114 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 5: Like if you're if you end on if you end 115 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 5: on a high note, right the competitive nature in everybody 116 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 5: is you continue to go. It's like I don't feel 117 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 5: like you would actually find out if you've lost a 118 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: step unless you had a year where it's like, oh yeah, 119 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: maybe maybe I don't have it like I did the 120 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 5: year before, year prior. So it's almost like how do 121 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 5: you know? Because you're almost you're also addicted to all 122 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 5: the success as well. Yeah you know what I mean, Like, 123 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 5: how do you feel like you would know? 124 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: I don't know. I feel like like that's a great question. 125 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: His oldest being around the edge. 126 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 5: I feel like that wouldn't happen unless it's like week fifteen, 127 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: if maybe your last season and you're like, fuck, maybe 128 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 5: I am slowing down. 129 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah no, that's that's true. You never, like I feel 130 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: like you're never gonna know, like exactly. But it's just 131 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 4: like like JJ, like I feel like it's a mental 132 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: thing too, like you know when you're done. Like there's 133 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: guys like I feel like there's certain like even I 134 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 4: know Sean McVay, Like I don't know all the story, 135 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: but like I know how he works and people talk 136 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: about his work ethic like he's like when he's in it, 137 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 4: like seas twenty four to seven, he doesn't stop, and 138 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 4: like people are saying he might take a break, and 139 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: there's rumors of that just because of how he is. 140 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: So like if I ever get to that point where 141 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: I'm like sick of it and like I'm really not 142 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 4: enjoying it, and I'm you know, I'm at that point 143 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: where it's like I'm you know, I've already I've given 144 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: everything I got to it, Like it's time to just 145 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: you know, call it a career. Like I know that. 146 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 4: I feel like I'll know when that day comes. Like 147 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 4: even jj Watt, like you've seen he's bawling like he 148 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: had just had twelve and a half sackses here and 149 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: he's just like I'm done, but he knows he kind 150 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 4: of hit that limit. He played what twelve years. 151 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's Brady. 152 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well it's different though, Like he's he's not taking 153 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: big yets running and putting his shoulders and shit, so 154 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 4: like that's different. Like I feel like, especially playing up front, 155 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: you know Taylor, like it's a lot, and it's every 156 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 4: single day in practice, like a quarterback's not taking any 157 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: damage during the week. They're not doing it during the 158 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 4: offseason like we do it all the time all year round. 159 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, like my goal, like there's there's main goals 160 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 4: I want to hit, Like I want to be the 161 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: Raiders all time sack leader, Like that's something that's like 162 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 4: big on my checklist. Like there's a lot of things 163 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: that I want to hit before I'm done. So yeah, 164 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,119 Speaker 4: you know, I'm just gonna stay in the present. That's 165 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 4: all i can do. But when that day comes, I 166 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 4: feel like I'll know what is the all time sack 167 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: leading I think it's one oh seven and a half 168 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: Greg Townsend. 169 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 5: So you're at one hundred sacks year ten eight. Yeah, 170 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 5: let's say okay, yeah, yeah, let's say you're at a 171 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: hundred sacks year eight, but you're losing a step, but 172 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: you need seven sacks to get that all time sack. 173 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 5: Do you come back the next year to get to 174 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: check your boxes where you feel like you're close? 175 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I like this is different. 176 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: Like if I'm in year eight and I feel like 177 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 4: I'm losing a step, then maybe I'm not doing something right, 178 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like maybe that's. 179 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 5: Weelie, you're so fucking relentless all the time, Like maybe you. 180 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,239 Speaker 4: Know, nah, that's I'm still young bro, Like I'm twenty 181 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: five and I'm going into my fifth year, you know 182 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 4: what I mean, Like if I'm not if like just 183 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 4: looking at it from like there's you look at the 184 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: Kobe's the gods like that, like they work relentlessly. They 185 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: were able to play twenty years. I know it's a 186 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 4: different sport, but like even the NFL guys, like I know, 187 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: injuries are injuries happen, like that's a part of it. 188 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: But you know, I feel like if you do all 189 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 4: the right things, you carry your body, do sleep well, 190 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 4: recover well, do all the shit right, you practice right, 191 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: keep keep ahead of things, like you'll be fine. And 192 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 4: and that's how like I played almost eleven hundred snaps 193 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: this year, Like I played a ton of snaps, but 194 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: like I feel good, like I could go. I could 195 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: start training tomorrow if I really wanted to. But I 196 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: have to force myself to slow down. So like I'm 197 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: not fucking stupid. I don't think like I'm above other people, 198 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: and I don't, you know what I mean, That's not 199 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: how I look at it, but like I just I 200 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 4: feel like if I just keep doing the right things, 201 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 4: but I'll be able to kind of control my destiny, And. 202 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 5: I was more trying to give it a hypothetical of you're 203 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 5: slowing down, but you're also right there on the cusp 204 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 5: of a couple of those check checks. 205 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: Get I'm going to yeah, I'm going to get I'm 206 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 4: will play one year and if I go and out 207 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: four sacks, then yeah it's time. But like I'm a yeah, 208 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: I'm a definitely, you're right. 209 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: I guess it would be like you know, it wouldn't 210 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 5: be like year twelve or thirteen, where. 211 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty seven and a half, Okay, that's pretty all right. 212 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: What are other goals on that? 213 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: What are other goals on that list? There's that oh 214 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 4: my bad, uh put it to your mouth. There's a 215 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: few like that, Like I want to be in the 216 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. That's something I want to be in. 217 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: I want to be the Raiders all time sack leader. 218 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 4: You know, there's there's a lot of things. I can't 219 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: say everything, but like there's like the main goals like 220 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: I want to be definitely do that, but I want 221 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: to I want to have a career where like when 222 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 4: people look back, like the biggest thing for me, like 223 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 4: the numbers and shit is cool, Like the jacket all 224 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: that shit's cool, but like my main focus is like 225 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: trying to impact the way the game is played. Like 226 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 4: I feel like in the NFL now there's a there's 227 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: only a few guys that you really look at and 228 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 4: are like, damn, he's just fucking he's different. I don't 229 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: know what it is, like just the way he plays, 230 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 4: Like I watch like Chris Jones and like Michael Parsons 231 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 4: and those guys, like there's just something different when they're 232 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: out on the field, Like it's like a presence, and 233 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 4: like that's what I want to lead back. Like when 234 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 4: people look back and talk about me, they're not going 235 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 4: to talk about the stats at the end of the day. 236 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 4: They don't talk about Lawrence Taylor's sacks. They talk about 237 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: when that dude is on the field, he's a fucking 238 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 4: animal like and that's that's that's the way I look 239 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: at it, Like inspiring kids, inspiring kids, Like I want 240 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 4: to be that guy that kids want to be like 241 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 4: like I want That's that's what matters most to me. 242 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 4: So if it's six years and I feel like I'm 243 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: losing a step, like then it is what it is 244 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 4: like and I and I'll know I'm done. But like 245 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like I feel like 246 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 4: the impact I leave on the game, like I want 247 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 4: to be I want to bring that back, like the 248 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: old school way of playing football, flying to the ball, 249 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 4: not giving a ship, like throwing my body Like that's 250 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: that's what I feel like is missing nowadays. 251 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: For sure from an inspiration standpoint, when you were playing 252 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: at Eastern Michigan of all places in Ipsilany, which is wild, 253 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 2: like how. 254 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: You were there? Why shot at the boys? And that 255 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 3: just way better than the. 256 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 6: Bast Man until this year, until this like when you're 257 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 6: when you're playing, like obviously the first person that comes 258 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 6: to mind somebody you've already like two or three times 259 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 6: as JJ Watt, was that like your guy at Eastern? 260 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 4: No, not at Eastern. I liked. I was a big 261 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 4: JJ fan, like when I first started playing DM, like 262 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 4: my first year playing DM was I was a senior 263 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: in high school, so I was new to the position. 264 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, who's the best at what I do? So 265 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: like JJ at that time was like Superman. So I 266 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: definitely I like watching JJ. But there's a ton of 267 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: guys like I love Jared Allen growing up. There's a 268 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: ton and it's not just defensive ends like I played 269 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 4: growing up. I was a middle linebacker the whole time 270 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 4: until my senior year. So like, you know, I could 271 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 4: go on and on about different players, but yeah, I 272 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 4: watch everybody, and I just I want to be like unique, 273 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 4: like somebody not just another guy, another hard working, like 274 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: I going to be somebody to look back. It's like damn, 275 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: like in that time, like this dude was just different 276 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: than most dudes. 277 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: Because JJ was one of those dudes who like fought 278 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 2: through the fringe. Like when I first got to Tennessee, 279 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: it was like that was when JJ was was JJ. 280 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 2: It was terrifying. And then you know, he went through 281 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: like a three four years where he like played six games, 282 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 2: played nine games, like didn't really play a whole lot, 283 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: and he could have easily been where we've been. What 284 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: we've been talking about was like is he losing a step? Yeah, 285 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: and he goes back to the Cardinals and like you say, 286 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: he had twelve sacks this year, but LOOKI was balling 287 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: this year. 288 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 5: It's a competitive I feel like it's like that competitive fire. 289 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 2: Like also the fight of being like this can't be 290 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: the end for me, Like I need to make this 291 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 2: comeback real but you're. 292 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: In it though, like you're in your own Like some 293 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 5: people could objectively say, like maybe you are losing a step, 294 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 5: but I guess only you know. But then that's obsession 295 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 5: of being so uber competitive. Maybe you don't necessarily know it, 296 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 5: but you keep going back right for sure. 297 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 4: And that's the thing too, Guys like the game you 298 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: evolve like over time, like especially like even if some 299 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 4: guys are a little bit older, that's the thing too. 300 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 4: Like my game is from my rookie year to now, 301 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 4: it's like pull it, you know what I mean, I've 302 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 4: gone it's not even like the same person I watch 303 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 4: my film, So even I feel like it's when you 304 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 4: get older, too, Like you see a guy like this 305 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 4: I always refer to the NBA, but like you see 306 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 4: James Harden, like he used to be dropping forty a 307 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: game every night and now he's like a pass first, 308 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 4: he's leading the league and assist because he's lost the step, 309 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 4: but he's also like the best passer in the league 310 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: now and he's just evolved as a player. So yeah, 311 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 4: I feel like that's the thing. Like I have this 312 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: vision of what I want by handing to look like 313 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 4: and how it's gonna be, but like I truly don't know, 314 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 4: Like I really don't know. I just I just try 315 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: to stay stay in the day, bro, and if I 316 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: can maximize every day and do what I do, like 317 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: it's just gonna work out the way it's supposed to. 318 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: You know, it's not that's not under my control. 319 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: Going now, you're right. 320 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 3: I was gonna switch a subject. But if you're staying 321 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 3: on there, No, I was just I was. 322 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: Playing till like everyone everyone really has this, Like everyone's 323 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: writing their own little story in their head and they're 324 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 2: like they're narrating their own story. Like if I do this, 325 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: like it's gonna look like this, and like you're literally 326 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 2: watching yourself daydream of how it's all going to end. 327 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: Everyone plays it out, and you're right, like a lot 328 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: of dudes can't go out in their own terms. Like 329 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people like uh, Like for me, two 330 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 2: acls in three years, It's like I was on top 331 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: of the world before that, and I thought, oh man, 332 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: I'm getting this jacket. Like we're gonna keep going and 333 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: things just switch up on you. You have to learn 334 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 2: to pivot and be happy with what you done. Yeah, 335 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: what's it? 336 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 5: Uh, what's it like being Brian Baldinger is one of 337 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 5: his favorite players. I feel like my man is always 338 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 5: shouting you out because of what you talk about the 339 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 5: impact on the game. I feel like he does a 340 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 5: great job of spotlighting that and showing that the commodore, 341 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 5: whether or not you're getting this statu a sack, the 342 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 5: way you affect the game. What's it like like having 343 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 5: a legend like that talk about you multiple times throughout 344 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 5: the year. 345 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome. You know, ever since my rookie year, 346 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 4: for some reason, like my first game that I really 347 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 4: got to play in was an Indianapolis game. I think 348 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 4: it was week four of my rookie year, and he 349 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 4: put a video out and he made up the condor 350 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 4: nickname and all this stuff, and I was like throwing off. 351 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 4: I'm like, damn likely juicy. He narrates that stuff like 352 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: he's fire. The comment, the whole thing is classic. So 353 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: it's like when he's first started doing that, like I 354 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: reached out back to him and I was like, man, 355 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: I was like, I appreciate it means the world. And 356 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 4: then you know, I just as my career's gone, he's 357 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 4: always doing videos and now like we'll talk like before 358 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: you know, after a game, I'll be like, go go 359 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 4: watch what I did on this third down, and he'll 360 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: check it out and be like and we'll just have 361 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: conversations back and forth. He loves he loves football, bro. 362 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 4: And that's that's the type of people I like to 363 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: like to associate myself with. So, you know, like Marinelli 364 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: and those guys, Like I talked to Marionelli to this 365 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 4: day every day, Like I was just saw him in Texas. 366 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 4: I was just on the phone with them like two 367 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 4: hours ago. Like he's one of those guys that like 368 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: I need in my life to keep Like everybody has 369 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 4: those people, especially like in your sport, that you like 370 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: just have a different level of respect for and like 371 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 4: Baldy and like Marinelli, those guys like I constantly even 372 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: when I'm not training, like right now, I have a 373 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 4: couple of weeks to kind of get off my feet, 374 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: like just I need it, Like it's my part of 375 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: like my addiction, Like I love playing football. So having 376 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: those guys just talkball and just feed me knowledge is 377 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 4: really cool. 378 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: How do you get the commodore nickname the condor Condors comedy? 379 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 4: What is a commando that? 380 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: Like? 381 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: Down? Dude's similar? 382 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, similar schools. 383 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: How did you get that nickname? 384 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 4: It was just from Baldinger. I think it was that. Yeah, 385 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 4: I guess the wingspan you. 386 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: Do have like a solid cave man like knuckles touch 387 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 2: and knees. That's a big that's a big compent. You 388 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: want them them things are flying to when. 389 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've I've heard a lot of different weird you 390 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: watch your film. You see them in the right guard 391 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: when you're playing. See that's the funny thing. Bro, Like 392 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 4: and this is weird. And y'all can believe me or not. 393 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: But when I went to the combine, I'm like, you know, 394 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: everyone's always told me that, like, bro, you got long arm, 395 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: like your long athlete. I went to the combine, I 396 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: was like almost the bottom. When it came to wingspan, 397 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: they were like, I swear to god, they had articles, 398 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: uh the Eastern Michigan Because like, I did good at 399 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 4: the combines with people start talking about me more. But 400 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, I don't know his wingspan short and 401 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. And I'm like, what was your It 402 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: was like it was like six ten wingspan. I don't 403 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: know my arm length. It was like I tell you 404 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 4: six five. 405 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's a dub. 406 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 4: Right. 407 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: If your wingspan is longer than your boy. 408 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: Know, that's what you got them, stubby wings wrestler. 409 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: In his podcast to relax, you got to pull his shoulders. 410 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm trying to hit that ball the other day in 411 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: the shop and all I can't. I can't get it started. 412 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, I gotta kind of bounce the ball. 413 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: You do, got them little stuff, but they make your 414 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: arms are bigger though that way, like long arms, the 415 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 2: arms don't look as big. 416 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I don't know. It's weird, broball small torsos, right, 417 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 4: there's got to be something wrong. I think I got 418 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: a small torso. I think I got wide shoulders that 419 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 4: make my arms seem longer. I don't know. 420 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: You got no fucking. 421 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 7: Yo. 422 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. 423 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 2: Okay, Eastern Michigan. 424 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: How did you end up there? It's funny you brought 425 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: this up. So yesterday my D line coach from Eastern 426 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: called me and he, uh, you know, we're just chopping 427 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 4: it up, talking talking ball and whatever, and somehow he 428 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 4: brings it up. He's like, yeah, you know, you know, 429 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 4: it's hilarious. You know, we we've been interviewing a new 430 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: d line guy because he's going to move to linebackers 431 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: there at Eastern and Out they're getting a new D 432 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 4: line coach, and he was like, Coach Creighton, my head coach. 433 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 4: He started this thing. In his interview process. He puts 434 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 4: up five high school players film and shows the D 435 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: line coaches and has him ranked the D lineman. He puts, like, whatever, 436 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 4: one of the guys that are trying to recruit. He 437 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 4: puts my film in there from my high school, like 438 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 4: when I was in high school, and he puts, like, 439 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 4: you know, four other random guys. He said, So my 440 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 4: D line coach, my old D line coach told me 441 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 4: yesterday he said, every single coach ranks me at like 442 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 4: fourth or fifth from my high school day. And I'm 443 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: dying laughing and they don't know. And then they're like, yeah, 444 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 4: you know that's Max Crosby, right, and they're like they 445 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 4: all get awkward, awkward, But. 446 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: You just guys sit there at that meeting, go I'm 447 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: not getting this job. 448 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: It's over. But that's that's kind of like bro I 449 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: was a late bloomer, Like I was a I was 450 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 4: a linebacker all the way up to my senior year. 451 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: Then we got these new coaches, and I had a 452 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 4: big roastpur but like my body, I wasn't caught up, 453 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: like Bro, my knees were hurt and I was slow 454 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 4: twitch as fucked. Like if you watched my high school 455 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 4: film and be like, yeah, I'm not surprised he went 456 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: to Eastern, like I was surprised I got a D 457 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 4: one offer. They were the only d one to offer me. Bro, 458 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 4: They're my only offer in general. So like I got 459 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: that offer, I jumped on it, committed and boom and 460 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 4: then yeah, are you a basketball guy? Yeah? I played basketball? 461 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah I could. 462 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: I could buckets playing the paint. 463 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: I was. I was like a you know, like a 464 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: stretch for kind of guy. I could shoot, I could 465 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: shoot the ball. I sort of God, I would I 466 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 4: rather shoot than be on the block. Like, I'm not 467 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 4: a back to the basket gay. I'm catching the ball 468 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 4: at the top. You can't get to the lane hammer 469 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 4: paint guy, Absolutely not, you can't. I can rebound, but like, 470 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: I'm not back to the basket old school George, Mike 471 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: and come on. 472 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: Can you dribble? 473 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hide. But I have the serbian my 474 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 4: mom Serbian is it's translated to the court. 475 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Can you do the dribble between your legs? 476 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: Can you dunk? I could go right there? Women talking 477 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: about the other hoop? We have a court back then? 478 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: Is it even regulation? 479 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: That's probably a feet Yeah, it's got to be a feet. 480 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 2: Can you do the thing where you bounce the ball 481 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 2: and you pick your shirt up and the ball goes 482 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: in and you slap it and it goes around. 483 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 4: And one mixed day. Yeah, I don't think I can 484 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: do that. 485 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: You think you're the best basketball player on the Raiders. 486 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think guys would tell you that too. I'm 487 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hide myself up. But we've all played again. 488 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 5: I see you over there getting a little You keep 489 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 5: like twitching a little bit like I can get. 490 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, make you a little triggered that we're kind of 491 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: questioning your back. 492 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, it hurts, but it's it's normal for you know, 493 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: being a white guy. They will always question you at first, 494 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 4: but then you go on the court and you fucking everywhere. 495 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you are, you are tatted? Is uh? What's it 496 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 2: like playing defense being white? 497 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: Is that tough? 498 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 5: I remember when Taylor calls you, Oh, he's just another 499 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: normal white guy out. 500 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: There on the field. 501 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 2: Actually, Will told me that story. I forgot that even happened, 502 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: explaining that what happened that day, because I don't remember 503 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: when I was saying that to you. Remember, No, I 504 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: really don't. You told me my whole focus in that 505 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 2: game was you. When we were playing. 506 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 5: You literally told me we were pulling up, You're like, 507 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 5: was Max a guy where I said, uh, there's just 508 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: another white guy? 509 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: No, but yeah, because you've told me that story. But 510 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: I remember in the moment saying that. I remember him 511 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 2: saying that to you. 512 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 5: Finally got you guys here together. Max Will let me 513 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 5: down on like how much money I think I know. 514 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: I tell you, I'll give you two hundred dollars per 515 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 5: sack you got on. 516 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 4: Taylor or something like that. Yeah, a little bit work. 517 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: I got the Titans back this year, though, So I 518 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: was proud and I love veryble know about it. 519 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: Did you really? 520 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 4: I was talking on the whole game. You're just sitting 521 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: there on the sideline of his hands on his knees 522 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 4: after y'all try to run that weird reverse boot ship 523 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 4: and I just yeah, it was like on a third 524 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 4: down and I just jetted smoked Tannehill and I looked 525 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: to the silent Rabel just looking. He was right there. 526 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: I was like, stop running that ship at me, stop 527 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: running that ship. And he's like okay, shaking his head 528 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: and ship okay. But I fuck with verbel Bro. He's 529 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 4: one of those coaches. This is random, off topic, but 530 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 4: he like he texted me all the time. He's cool 531 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 4: as ship. He was my coach of the Pro Bowl 532 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 4: last years. 533 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta respect that third contract. 534 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: You just gotta build relationships. 535 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: Bring you to Nashville with the boys. 536 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 4: I don't know about that, but. 537 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 2: Fantastic and Blue. 538 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 4: Never know, You never know. Yeah, I'm happy where I'm not. 539 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: You're doing the boys in that show. 540 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 4: Wouldn't you if they didn't want me here anymore? Yeah? 541 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: Of course, but I think, uh, I think it's gonna 542 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: work out. 543 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: Just dude, Rab. You don't know Rabel like we know 544 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: veryble because he'll go in meetings on Wednesdays and Thursdays 545 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: and pull it tape and just dummy guys, like just 546 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: verbally assault them. And I remember playing I think it 547 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: was that your rookie hear we played in Oakland. That's 548 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 2: when we played each other. He would put you on 549 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: the film and he there wasn't really a bad thing 550 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: because you play hard. Yeah, and there wasn't a bad thing. 551 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: He's like this loud mouth motherfucker, Like just like CIRCLEO was, 552 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: like this guy he can't fucking touch the quarterback. Fuck 553 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: this guy like going off about you the whole time. 554 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 2: And that's got to be a great feeling because I've 555 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: had the same thing with like Bill O'Brien and Bill 556 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 2: O'Brien be like a seventy seven. He is a fake 557 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: tough guy and that that hurt every time. 558 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: Remember I remember going through in the defensive meeting that 559 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: week the same kind of stuff. 560 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: Similarity, he's gonna try to get the whole time. Yeah, 561 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 4: it's funny, but that's like I have. You know how 562 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: the NFL is. You have friends on all the different teams. 563 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: You know, a bunch of guys, Like that's the funniest 564 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 4: ship when you sit there and talk after the season 565 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,679 Speaker 4: and they're like, yeah, in our meeting, you know, we 566 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: circled you and just kind of hearing what other teams 567 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: have to say about you, Like that's interesting. You know, 568 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: everybody has their own kind of perspective on who you 569 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 4: are as a guy. There's some teams that think I'm 570 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: the biggest piece of shit on the planet. 571 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Like really of course, like he's so loud. 572 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: I'm loud, and he he makes a play, He's like 573 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: what motherfucker. Yeah, I can't help myself. I love it 574 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 4: like I'm loud. But that's like there's there's certain teams 575 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 4: that you could tell like they're trying to fuck me up, 576 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 4: like the Niners team, Like the Niners coach and all them, 577 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 4: they like buttered me up all week. They're like, man, 578 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 4: besides Bosa, he's you know, he's probably the best guy. 579 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 4: Once we got to the game, they tried to send 580 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 4: the fucking house at me. Bro. They were doing Bro 581 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 4: just different, weird, like the Niners blocking, like the schemes 582 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 4: and shit they do. I've never experienced anything like it. 583 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: Like Bro, they were tackle tight end both going down 584 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: and the guard would fucking like they were coming at angles. 585 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 4: You didn't even know where the fuck they were coming from. Bro. 586 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: It was just different. But like that's the thing, Like 587 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: that's the coolest thing about the league is like being 588 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 4: in a position, you know how it is like you're 589 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: on an island the whole game. You don't even have 590 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: to worry about it. So like that's your responsibilities. For me, 591 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: it's the opposite. I know, Oh they're going to be 592 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 4: sending shit at me, and it's like it's a different 593 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 4: type of challenge every week. And all the offensive coordinators 594 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 4: they all got a different way of approaching and it's 595 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 4: it's cool because after the games they'll talk about, Yeah, 596 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 4: we're trying to fuck you up and we're trying to 597 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: do this, and I'm like, oh, you got me on this, 598 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: but fucked you up on that play. Yeah, it's cool, man, 599 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 4: That's that's what. 600 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: That's what leag Kyle Shanahan's so good watching their first 601 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: playoff game and the blocking teams are wild, wild, Like 602 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: there was what was the play? Oh, they like the 603 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: tight end like went out on the end and then 604 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: like flashed the end as if he wasn't like he's 605 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: gonna block them, then went away and then Trent was there. 606 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 2: That was when McCaffrey had like that long like fifty 607 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 2: five yard runs. But the blocking scheme was just so 608 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: unique and it's simple because you look as if from 609 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 2: offens line like, oh, they're just running this play with 610 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 2: like these two little different things. But they do such 611 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: a good job of opening up holes. Yes, they got 612 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: studs all around. 613 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 4: I was gonna say, yeah, that helps as well. When 614 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: you got fucking between Deebo and McCaffrey like those in 615 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 4: open field, there's probably there's you can't name anybody really 616 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: better than them, like you got tyreeks and shit like that. 617 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: But like McCaffrey and Deebo, like an open field, they're 618 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 4: fucking electric. 619 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: Bro dangerous. 620 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: Playing against Trent Williams. 621 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: He's a stud. Bro, he's a stud. It was fun though, 622 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: had we had some good battles. 623 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: Did you get one on him? 624 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a couple of I didn't get a 625 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 4: sack on him, but I had a nice little QB 626 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: hit on a little inside move. It felt good. No, 627 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 4: we were talking. He's cool as ship. He's talking like 628 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 4: just having conversation. But I usually I'm a line up 629 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 4: on the left, so like I'm going to get the 630 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 4: right tackle most of the time. So once I went over, 631 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,479 Speaker 4: like we knew, like Trent's going to be on an island. 632 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: So during the game we kind of schemed it up 633 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 4: where Okay, Max, you're gonna play a little bit more 634 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: on Trent because you'll have more one on one opportunities 635 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: because they're gonna probably chip with the right tackle and stuff. 636 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: So I got to rush against him a couple of times. 637 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: But I've heard, well, I had some good rushes, he 638 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 4: had some good He's just a big motherfucker and he's athletics, 639 00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 4: so it was a it was a good matchup. Bro. 640 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 4: We we got the best of each other a few times. 641 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 4: That's cool. 642 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: You were telling that story on the plane about him 643 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: and Shawn Jackson. 644 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: They were just his athletic ability. Yeah. 645 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 5: Like there's one offseason where we were in OTAs and 646 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 5: they were basically trying to narrow down who had like 647 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 5: the fastest start. So like every group, I mean very subjective, 648 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 5: but ten yards, it's kind of hard to figure out 649 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: who wins everyone, but every position could go and then 650 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 5: they would put everybody together. But the final two were 651 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 5: DeShawn Jackson and Trent Williams because he could just. 652 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: Get out like, he's extremely athletic. 653 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 5: They were talk about him playing They would talking about 654 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 5: playing legs. They said he would when they would play basketball. 655 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 5: The why that he played like beyond the arc, he'd win, 656 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 5: They'll dunk. 657 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: Like do all this stuff. He's just like a super athlete. 658 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 5: Bro. 659 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 4: He's a freak. Bro. 660 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: He really is a freak. What about McGlinchey for the Niners. 661 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a big deal. He's a big guy. 662 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: He's he's a little more stiff, but I feel like 663 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 2: he's an underrated cat, like he doesn't get enough respect. 664 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know. I thought he was solid. You know. 665 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: It's that's a weird thing, like especially now, like I'm 666 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 4: like this year, especially like I played on the left 667 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 4: side majority of the time, and like early on with 668 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 4: me and Chandler are both going like the chips would 669 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 4: go back and forth, so I would have some more 670 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: one on ones and shit, but Chan got hurt against Pittsburgh, 671 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 4: and like the last few games, it was like if 672 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: I wasn't moving around, like I'm getting there sliding and 673 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 4: they're chipping. So it was hard. It was really fucking 674 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 4: difficult to kind of get those true one on ones, 675 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: and especially when you're not up in games like you 676 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 4: don't you know, there's it's a lot less you know, 677 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: it's a lot more predictable what they're doing. So no, 678 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 4: I got Yeah, Mike mcglinch, he's he's a big motherfucker. 679 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 4: He was he was solid. We definitely, yeah, we had 680 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: we had a good little a little back and forth. 681 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 4: It was it was fun, bro. That's the thing with 682 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: the Niners. There's certain teams bro that like they just 683 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 4: make it really difficult for your D line and shit 684 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 4: to get off. And that's that's always the biggest challenge. 685 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 4: Like the New England's like, you know, when you're playing 686 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: New Wing when they're gonna literally do everything they can 687 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: to try to stop this guy in this guy And 688 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: like Tennessee's like that too. I know Vrabels come from 689 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 4: the Patriot the Patriot away too, so like I sit 690 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 4: there and hear McDaniels, he's like, okay, Bosa right here. 691 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: Every single time we're gonna slid, we're gonna boom, we're 692 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: gonna And I already know going into the week, like 693 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: I'm playing Bill Belichick, he's gonna try to fuck me 694 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 4: up every play. In Tennessee, I know Vrabel's not gonna 695 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: let me just go and try to wreck the game. 696 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 4: And that's I feel like that's as years have gone on, 697 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 4: like that's been a you know, like in my game, 698 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 4: like having to evolve, you have to truly like you 699 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 4: have to truly be on it every single play because 700 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 4: they're bringing more than one more than more than less. 701 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 2: It's got to be a hell of a compliment though. Yeah, yeah, 702 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: they're slide to me and chipping me. It's yeah, it's 703 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: gotta feel good. 704 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 4: No, it's awesome, But at the same time, it's very frustrating. 705 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 4: Like that's that's like I feel like the biggest part, 706 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: Like in the past, Like last year, like I was 707 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: getting in my head because I wasn't getting like I 708 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: was getting a shipload of pressures, but I wasn't getting home. 709 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 4: Like there was like a stretch right, like had six 710 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 4: games in a row where I didn't have a sack. 711 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 4: I was rushing my best, but I wasn't getting home 712 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 4: for some reason. And like that's the thing as a rusher, 713 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: that's so difficult. Like there's no play called for you. 714 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 4: You have to go earn every single stat every play, 715 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 4: every sack, every TfL. So like that's the challenge. And 716 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: like people from the outside world if you're not getting 717 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: sacks as a rusher, like they think you're you're like 718 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 4: not balling, you know what I mean. Like Chandler was 719 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 4: balling and people were on his head because his sack 720 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 4: numbers were low, and like you feel like Chandler was 721 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 4: the same guy last year that I was calling, like, bro, 722 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 4: like I don't know why I can't get a fucking sack, 723 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 4: and he's helping me out. So like having Chan here 724 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 4: this year, like I was getting a lot of sacks 725 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 4: and Chan was, you know, going through it a little bit, 726 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: and like being able to be there for him is 727 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 4: like it's like crazy, bro, it goes full circle because 728 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 4: like Chan is a dude. I looked up two forever. 729 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 4: He's one hundred plus sacks and he's in year eleven 730 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 4: and he's like going through it, and it's like it's 731 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 4: tough because it just shows like as a rusher, like 732 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 4: this shit is really difficult and you have to appreciate 733 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 4: every single stat and everything you get because like you 734 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 4: could rush great for the whole game, but they could 735 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 4: just be getting rid of the ball. They could be 736 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's just that's the tough 737 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: part about it. But that's also like the beauty in 738 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 4: it when there's a reason why sacks are like a 739 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: big thing, because it's not everything's got to go right. 740 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: They got to hold the ball, the cover's got to 741 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: be on point, everything's got to be you know, on 742 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 4: point for you to get home. So Chandler, Oh yeah, yeah, 743 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: I forgot, Yeah, I forgot. 744 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: Forget. 745 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 4: Chan is a fucking dog, but I love as a 746 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: human being. The dude is one of the coolest dudes. Man. 747 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: When I was playing him in twenty twenty one, he 748 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 2: had like four sacks that day, I gave up two 749 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: of them, and there was like the end of the game. 750 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: At that point in the game, I was at such 751 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: a low point. I was like, I just need to 752 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here in regroup somehow. And 753 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 2: he like rushed me and he went to pull away, 754 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: and I had his chain and I tore it off, 755 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: and he's like, oh man, now I'm really mad. Now 756 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: I'm really coming. I'm like, hey, I like walking back 757 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: to the huddle, like you have four sacks, You're all right, 758 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: Like just relax, just relax for the That was the 759 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: lowest football moment. But look he even before I got hurt, 760 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: I never played him well. He always played really well 761 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: against me. Like my second year I played him, he 762 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: was at the Patriots and like the first third down, dude, 763 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: he takes me back to the quarterback strip sack fumble 764 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: return for a touchdown. That's how the game started. First series. 765 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 3: Well do you think he's always done so well? Like 766 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: what do you feel like makes him like. 767 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: He's I don't I think like if I were to play, 768 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: if I were to play him again, would I would 769 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: vary up my sets more. He's so long and he 770 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 2: does a good job, like it looks like he's always 771 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 2: on a step cadence like one two bowl one two three, 772 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 2: like turn those shoulders. And he's really long too, so 773 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: short corners are not good against him, Like if you 774 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,959 Speaker 2: get him too like nine and a half, he's got 775 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: that capability to reach with the far arms and get 776 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: that quarter of that ball out. So it's like he's 777 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: got enough speed to where like I gotta respect this, 778 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: but also he can turn in power also and then 779 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: dudes that and I can't remember if you play like 780 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: this or not, but like he doesn't necessarily like play 781 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: like sound run defense, like so you like when you're 782 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 2: trying to shoot off the ball like we do a tennessee, 783 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: he goes inside like he can jump around, like if 784 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: he has that kind of freedom, like that's an easy 785 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 2: way to like second guess yourself. And he he's, uh, 786 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: he's always been he's always played me well. I think 787 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: of all the players, like he's been a guy that's 788 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 2: always kind of have my number. Yeah, even before getting hurt. 789 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 2: He's stud. 790 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's always got. There's always those guys in the league. 791 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: Every year you're like, okay, I know this about it. 792 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 4: This one day he's about to be Yeah, like I 793 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: gotta be on my ship and that's yeah. Chandler's just bro. 794 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: He's just unique. Like how he explained, he's got. He's 795 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: not fast, but he's got. He's not fast, and he'll 796 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 4: tell you that he knows he's not, but he's just 797 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 4: he's so long and he's so like he's just a 798 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 4: different athlete's like his brother, Like they're so long, but 799 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: they're not fast and they probably they can't jump high, 800 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 4: but they're like freak athletes. I don't even know how 801 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: to explain it. 802 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: There, but like the game film is way different than 803 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: what you see, like combine numbers would be exactly. 804 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: He just he's just a unique, unique player. Bro. He 805 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: was born to play football, dud, dudes, stud you met 806 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: his brother, no, I haven't. No, I heard he's gonna 807 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 4: fight again, right, he's got. 808 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 5: He's got to brothers. Arthur Smith, he played in the 809 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 5: League too. 810 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole family, whole family and the Yeah it's Arthur, 811 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 4: that's the coach of the Falcons. But uh, I who 812 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 4: last name is John? Arthur Jones? 813 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 3: Arthur Jones. I don't know why you said Smith. Yeah, 814 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: because he was my teammate, Arthur Smith and the brothers, right, Like. 815 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: That's not even the same now, I don't think that's 816 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 4: the same. 817 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: Is he is he an athlete as well? 818 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 4: He was he was he won a Super Bowl in 819 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 4: Baltimore and oh I didn't know that. Yeah, he's the 820 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 4: oldest though. 821 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the oldest as long as a career. But 822 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 5: like that whole family is just a breeding. 823 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: Brothers in the NFL. That's that's ridiculous. Yeah, no, he's 824 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 4: a stud man. And you're right, he's like an anomaly. 825 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 4: Like you look at him. He's got like. 826 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: The size like you like you look like he must 827 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: have a or torso as well. 828 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 4: How long his arms are long toist? 829 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: But like he legit like does like incredibly wacky, very unorthodox, 830 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: extremely unorthodox Russia, but he just he does well. 831 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 5: You mentioned earlier about the Patriot Way. What was it 832 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 5: like playing for coach McDaniels. What's it been like playing 833 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: for coach McDaniels. Transitioning from coach Pisacia last year. Obviously 834 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: you guys are super close. Pisatchia is a legend things. 835 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 5: But then you coach McDaniels comes in. What's it been 836 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 5: like playing for coach McDaniels. 837 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: Honestly, my experience has been great. You know. I feel 838 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 4: like every time you get a new coach in there's 839 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 4: new expectations, and I feel like it definitely takes time 840 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 4: to adjust, you know, as a whole. Like if you're 841 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 4: halfway in, halfway out, you're not going to last. And 842 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: in the way he coaches, like he has a very 843 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 4: specific way that he wants things to be done. He's 844 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 4: all about work ethic, all about doing the extra mile. 845 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 4: Like that's how he approaches it. And I like, like 846 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: we talked about off camera, like me and him, we've 847 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: had a great relationship. Was here the dude. That's how 848 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 4: I think when it comes to training and stuff, I'm 849 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 4: always doing extra So it's nothing new to me when 850 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 4: it comes to that. But like I said, if you're 851 00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 4: a guy that's you know, the normal NFL guy, you're 852 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 4: not they're not training all off season. You know what 853 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's just that they're doing it there. It's 854 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 4: like it's hardest. It's not like a normal NFL team, 855 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 4: Like it's just it's a different time. 856 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: About the way the way he runs the operation. 857 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, just the operation. Like we're really working, bro, Like 858 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 4: even during the season, like we're we're in pads like 859 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 4: late in the season, and yeah, there's some tough days, 860 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: but like that's just that's what it is, like, you 861 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 4: know what I mean. You can bitch and complain about it, 862 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 4: or you can show up and fucking improve and get better. 863 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 4: And especially in our situation, like, Bro, we're six and eleven, 864 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 4: but like we lost. We were in every single game 865 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 4: basically besides New Orleans, Like we lost every game by 866 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 4: like less than a touchdown. So we're right there, and 867 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: that's the probably the hardest part about it is, like, fuck, 868 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: we're right there. But we have great building blocks on 869 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: this team. You know, we have Davante, we have Josh Jacas, 870 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 4: we have a ton of guys. It's just we're not 871 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 4: there yet. But I feel like we're definitely like on 872 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 4: our way, like it if things go our way, you 873 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 4: know what I mean. This year, like we could have 874 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 4: easily been a double dy. We could have won ten 875 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 4: games easily, but that's not the reality. Should then you know, 876 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 4: last year we won every single close game, and that's 877 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 4: the toughest thing about it. It's like you can either 878 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: either overthink it and you know, dwell on it and 879 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 4: bitch about it. But we went six and eleven. That's 880 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 4: our record. It's fucking It's not acceptable. But I feel 881 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 4: like Josh is a as a coach. He's done a 882 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 4: really good job. 883 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 2: For sure, go ahead, No, he just seems like a yeah, 884 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: because this is like this is not meant to be 885 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 2: a shot. This is just like an observation like the 886 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,640 Speaker 2: Raiders like really underperformed for base on, Like you guys 887 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: have an incredible amount of talent on that team. Yeah, 888 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 2: and so how do you obviously, without overthinking it, what 889 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: are the little things here and there that you guys 890 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: lose by losing by seven you can now win by three? 891 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: Like what are those little changes? 892 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 4: I think you know, I've talked about this already, but 893 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 4: it's like for me, it's the standard, like holding guys 894 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 4: to there has to be a standard set. They can't 895 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: just be you show up, the practice, you do the plays. 896 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 4: We're not going over. We're not sitting here and you know, 897 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 4: you should watch the film and everybody should be greaded. 898 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 4: You know, are we really running to the ball? Like 899 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 4: little shit like that I feel And that's just how 900 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 4: I have an old school mindset when it comes at 901 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,960 Speaker 4: like just the little details of running to the ball 902 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 4: loafs like the ship we talk about, Like that's that's 903 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 4: what I think is the difference, you know, at the 904 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 4: end of the day, like if the standard is not 905 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 4: set in the off season and OTAs and shit like 906 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 4: that is never You're never going to go on the 907 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 4: field and everybody's gonna be on the same page. It's 908 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 4: just not reality. And that's where I feel like, you know, 909 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 4: last year or the year before, like when you were there, 910 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 4: like that's we got to that point at the end 911 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 4: of the year, like everybody was playing for each other 912 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 4: and that's a new thing, like and it's not like 913 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 4: it's McDaniel's fault or anything. Like everything's new. So it 914 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 4: does take time, and that's you know something as a 915 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: leader like that's what I feel like I need to, 916 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 4: you know, take another step, you know, as a leader 917 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 4: and being a captain, like that's something I'm really focused 918 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,439 Speaker 4: on is building, you know, bringing up the other guys, 919 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 4: the guys that really want to be you know, really 920 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 4: want to be great and be a difference maker, not 921 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 4: just another guy on the roster to fill out a spot. 922 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 4: Like that's that's what we need, you know. I feel like, 923 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 4: like you said, we have the talent in big spots, 924 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: but like we do have a lot of things we 925 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 4: got to improve on. Like, you know, our d line 926 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 4: wasn't good enough. Our our defense in general wasn't good 927 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 4: enough as a whole, Like it wasn't We did not 928 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 4: play the what I you know, believe the standard should be. 929 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 4: You know, we played. We rushed a lot better the 930 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 4: year before, we covered better. You know, there's there's little 931 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 4: things that we got to improve on. So you know 932 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 4: that's and it's a it's a group effort. You know, 933 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 4: it's got to take everybody, and you know, I feel 934 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,879 Speaker 4: like we're definitely going in that direction. The second half 935 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 4: of the season, we played a lot better on defense. 936 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 4: But that's just a tough part about it. You can 937 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 4: go back and forth, and you know, we lost close games, 938 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 4: but like either way, we lost, like and that's at 939 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 4: the end of the day. Six and eleven, six and 940 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 4: eleven is fucking terrible. So yeah, you know, I believe 941 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 4: in them. I believe that. You know, we're gonna keep 942 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 4: building out the roster and a lot of key spots 943 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 4: and you know, just keep going in the right direction. 944 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 4: But the main thing for me is a standard. Bro Like, 945 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 4: we have to have a standard and there can't be 946 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: guys that are halfway in a halfway out, because you 947 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 4: know how it is. You have fucking nine guys on 948 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 4: the same page and two or halfway out the door 949 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 4: is never gonna work. 950 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you feel like do you feel like that's 951 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 3: what it was? 952 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 5: The standard wasn't held the entire year because a lot 953 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,960 Speaker 5: of the talks and the headlines and the conversations was, 954 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 5: you know, last year we ended up winning like the 955 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 5: last five games, and then you go in you think 956 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:35,880 Speaker 5: you're gonna build off. 957 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: You have a new regime coming. 958 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 5: Of course it does take time, but then put in 959 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 5: the year that you guys did put together. You keep 960 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 5: alluding to the standard and everything else and half in, 961 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 5: half out. Do you feel like it was upholding that standard? 962 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 5: If you when you do look at. 963 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 4: It, Yeah, I feel and like you said, like we 964 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: talked about, it's not easy. You know, the way, the 965 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: way of you know, how coach McDaniels does it is 966 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 4: not easy. We're working hard, Like, Bro, we're in training camp. 967 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 4: It's fucking one hundred degrees out on the field, Like 968 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 4: we're not practicing at seven in the morning, Like we're 969 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 4: practicing like ten like that. Shit, it's hot, bro, Like 970 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 4: people are dying and then we're running gassers at the end, 971 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 4: like it's not a joke. That heat, bro, real heat. 972 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 4: And so that's my point, Like as a player, like 973 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 4: I pride myself on my routine about doing it every 974 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 4: day no matter if I'm in a bad mood, if 975 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm feeling like shit, like showing up and trying to 976 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 4: improve regardless of how I feel. And I feel like we 977 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 4: didn't have enough of that this year, just we didn't 978 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 4: sustain it for a whole season. Like you can do 979 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 4: it in camp, you can do it in OTAs for 980 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 4: the first couple of months, but it's like we need 981 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 4: a bunch of guys who were down or are willing 982 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 4: to sacrifice the whole year and beyond beyond point. And 983 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 4: you know that's you know, that's just a part of 984 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 4: it where you know, I feel like we're going to 985 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 4: bring in more guys that are like minded. And you know, 986 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 4: I just I'm trusting it. You know, I'm just not 987 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: my control. I'm just you know, I just want to 988 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 4: be a leader, you know, That's that's my mangal lead 989 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 4: the guys, bring up younger guys and showing the way. 990 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: So when you're saying, like, I have a standard for 991 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: myself that I said every day whether I feel like 992 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 2: shit or I feel good, like when you feel like 993 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 2: shit and you don't want to do it, because I 994 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,279 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people are gonna hear that 995 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: and be like I do. Everyone goes through the same thing. 996 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 2: Everyone's got motivation week one, and now all of a sudden, 997 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 2: it's week ten. You're like, oh man, I really don't 998 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: want to get up and go do it again. Like 999 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 2: what are the things that you tell yourself when you're 1000 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: working through that process? Like you wake up in the morning, 1001 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 2: you're sore, it's Wednesday, you know you're going into pads. 1002 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 2: You know it's week twelve, Like, how do you make 1003 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 2: sure not only you sit that ctander for yourself, but 1004 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 2: as a leader, like you're saying said that for everybody else. 1005 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know the main thing for me is just 1006 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 4: it's that foundation. Like if you don't have a solid 1007 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 4: foundation going into the season, like if there's little cracks 1008 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 4: in it, that shit, the whole house is going to 1009 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 4: come down by you know, halfway through the year. And 1010 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 4: that's like my main thing. I'm a very like I 1011 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,439 Speaker 4: have an addictive personality, you know what I mean, I've 1012 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 4: an addict at the end of the day, So like 1013 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 4: I use it to my as a superpower nowadays. Like 1014 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 4: there's certain shit, like every single day I'm doing the 1015 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 4: same thing like normantaic stretch every every night before I 1016 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 4: go to bed, like cold tub hots up every single day. 1017 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 4: I'm you know, there's certain things I have to do, 1018 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 4: my meal prep everything, so like even when I'm feeling 1019 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 4: like shit, I have to like every morning, I know 1020 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: I have to do it. Like it's an agreement I 1021 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 4: have with myself once a season ends, Like and that's 1022 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: something I'm doing right now, trying to figure out, Okay, 1023 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 4: what can I do better? How am I going to 1024 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 4: be better next year? What am I Like There's certain 1025 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 4: things that I write down, like I'm not breaking this, 1026 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 4: Like there's no there's no conversation with myself in my head, 1027 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 4: no matter how fucking bad I feel. So I feel 1028 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 4: like it's just, you know, the main thing is just 1029 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,720 Speaker 4: being mentally you know, obviously you got to be mentally strong, 1030 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 4: but you have to just make agreements with yourself, like 1031 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm not fucking breaking this and we'll see what happens. 1032 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 4: If it goes great, if I play great whatever, like 1033 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 4: that's amazing that comes with it. But like if I 1034 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 4: don't play up to the level I expect, like I know, 1035 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 4: I did everything trying to do that, so I'm not 1036 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 4: gonna feel like a piece of shit, like I. 1037 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 3: Write, statistically the members might not be there, but knowing. 1038 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, if I put everything I have on bro, I 1039 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 4: can't feel bad about it. So but obviously that's not 1040 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 4: the case. Yeah, like and just trusting it. So like 1041 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 4: that's what I always try to tell the young guys. 1042 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 4: It's like like my thing this pass off season, like 1043 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 4: what can I do better as far as going into training, 1044 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 4: Like the weird little difference I made, like I was 1045 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 4: going in at eight am and going to train. My 1046 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 4: agreement with myself this pass off season was I'm going 1047 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 4: to be in the building by six no later every morning, 1048 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 4: six am Monday through Friday, and that's fucked. That's not 1049 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 4: easy in the. 1050 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,919 Speaker 2: Office, especially Fridays when you get to go in later. 1051 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah yeah. 1052 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 4: And this is I'm talking February March when there's no 1053 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 4: I don't have to be there technically, like this is 1054 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 4: all off season, and I did that. So once the 1055 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 4: season got there, like that was like a boom. I 1056 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: checked that off. I did that. Like that's for me, 1057 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 4: That's where I get my confidence from. It's a little 1058 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 4: shit that like nobody, nobody's telling me I got to 1059 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 4: do this. It's little shit that like it's challenging as 1060 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 4: fucking the off season when I could sit here and 1061 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: sleep and get relaxed till eight am, you know what 1062 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: I mean. But I'm getting up at five point fifteen 1063 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,439 Speaker 4: and I'm going and going and working out when there's 1064 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 4: nobody in that bitch. That's kind of what I you know, 1065 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 4: that's just one thing. But that's how I pride myself. 1066 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,759 Speaker 4: Is just like set in the standard boom. This is 1067 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 4: what I'm doing, regardless of the situation, no matter how 1068 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 4: I feel. I'm getting the fuck out of bed and 1069 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 4: I'm doing this, And that's that's where where all my 1070 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 4: confidence comes from. And that's how I try to push 1071 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,839 Speaker 4: the guys around me, because I'm not like a big 1072 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 4: hoorah guy. I'm not gonna stand there this movie fucking 1073 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 4: gotta do blah blah blah. Like I'll speak when I 1074 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 4: have to, but like as a leader, like I feel 1075 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 4: like at the end of the day, the true leaders, 1076 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,439 Speaker 4: like they show they show that shit every single day 1077 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 4: and that comes to practice the weight room. Like that's 1078 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 4: how I try to carry myself and pride myself on 1079 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 4: because if you go and ask any guy in the 1080 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 4: locker room, or ask Dave and as Dave when you 1081 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 4: get there, you get ask fucking coach McDaniels. Like they 1082 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 4: can say whatever. You know, I might be a dick 1083 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 4: sometimes I might whatever, but yeah, red breadbeard everything, you 1084 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,319 Speaker 4: know what I mean, super white. But at the end 1085 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,879 Speaker 4: of the day, they can never say I don't work 1086 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 4: harder than anybody in that building. That's what I myself on. 1087 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: That's no negotiables. 1088 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 2: Is like massive, a massive thing that people need to have. 1089 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 4: It's huge. Bro. It my whole life changed. It changes it. 1090 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 4: Two years ago when I got that surgery, bro I 1091 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,919 Speaker 4: started doing that. It's changed my whole life. 1092 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 5: It definitely it definitely shows and that's like me being there. 1093 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 5: You are literally there doing your ship every day. When 1094 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 5: you talk about the standard, not that you have to 1095 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 5: get out of character and get out of personality with it, 1096 00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 5: but do you feel like approaching this next year, maybe 1097 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,960 Speaker 5: you do speak up a little bit more to kind 1098 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 5: of uphold that standard because you are a guy who's 1099 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 5: earned your stripes in the league now, like everybody knows 1100 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 5: the stuff, and you're talking about your routine every day now, right, 1101 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 5: so people know about that and understand that you know 1102 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 5: how you come correct every day. 1103 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you need to speak. 1104 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 5: Up a little more to feel more of that leadership 1105 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,320 Speaker 5: role to uphold that standard that you were alluding to earlier. 1106 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I look, I evaluate everything from 1107 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 4: my leadership to my play, to my just my attitude, 1108 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 4: my presence, like everything. I really sit down and break 1109 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 4: down what can I do better here? And I feel 1110 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 4: like that's with anything, you know, I could there's always 1111 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 4: room for improvement as a leader. But I feel like, 1112 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 4: you know, my third year when you were there, we 1113 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,840 Speaker 4: beat the Chargers the last game, like that was my 1114 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 4: first year of being a captain, and I've never been 1115 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 4: a captain my whole life. Like, so that was my 1116 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 4: first time really being voted a captain. So it was 1117 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 4: like I was learning a lot, you know what I mean, 1118 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 4: and that being in that leadership role. But it was 1119 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 4: it was different. It was a lot easier when I 1120 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 4: had a bunch of guys who thought like me, like 1121 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 4: Quentin Jefferson, Solomon Thomas, Yannick. Like they're all like all 1122 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 4: of them are fucking yeah like that. Yeah, they're like 1123 00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 4: they're all kind of crazy in their own way, but 1124 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 4: like that's how I am. So like I really didn't 1125 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 4: have to push, you know what I mean. We're all 1126 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,239 Speaker 4: like they've seen how I work. There. There wasn't negotiables 1127 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,799 Speaker 4: there with me. After the work, you know what I mean, 1128 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 4: after practice running with me, I had a full squad. Yeah, 1129 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 4: like I wasn't having a pull, motherfuckers. That's what I 1130 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 4: feel like. This year it was different. You know, it's 1131 00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 4: a lot different because I whole new team basically, Yeah, 1132 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 4: a lot of younger guys, a lot of guys coming 1133 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 4: from other teams, practice squads, and boom they're playing on 1134 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 4: Sunday with me. So that's that was the challenge this 1135 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 4: year is like this dude, doesn't fucking even I don't 1136 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 4: know this guy at all. I just met him two 1137 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 4: days ago, and now I got to try to lead him, 1138 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like that was the biggest 1139 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,280 Speaker 4: challenge this year is there was a lot of change, 1140 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 4: a lot of different guys in and out, a ton 1141 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 4: of injuries, so like it was a big challenge and 1142 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 4: I feel like overall it's like the hardest year mentally 1143 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 4: for me because I feel like I was playing my 1144 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 4: best ball and I really had a lot of shit 1145 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 4: that was going on. We were struggling, We're losing a 1146 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 4: lot of close games. Like there was a lot of 1147 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 4: moments where I could have just fucking lost, you know, 1148 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 4: lost my marbles and act out, you know, just fucking 1149 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 4: lash out. But like I really had to sit there 1150 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 4: and just internalize a lot of shit and just be 1151 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,399 Speaker 4: grateful for just being in this situation because I could 1152 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 4: look at it and bitch about it, Oh I don't 1153 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 4: have you know, I don't have a bunch of pro 1154 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 4: bowlers playing with me. I don't have this. He has this, 1155 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 4: and point to other teams, Well, this guy's got that, 1156 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I could do that, 1157 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 4: but it's just it does nothing, and it's that's what 1158 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 4: a fucking do. And for me, it's like, bro, I 1159 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 4: trust what I'm doing. I know I'm working like like 1160 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 4: no other, and I trust in the end it's all 1161 00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,120 Speaker 4: going to work out the way it's supposed to if 1162 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,719 Speaker 4: I just continue doing the right shit. And like I 1163 00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 4: look at guys like Aaron Donald, Like, Bro, he was 1164 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 4: in with the Rams. They sucked for years and he 1165 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 4: was the best player in the league, but nobody was 1166 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: really talking about him, like how they talk about him now. 1167 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 4: But over the time he's stuck to the process. He 1168 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 4: continued to dominate and then by years, what is a 1169 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 4: year ten? Last year he's in the super Bowl. Biggest moment, 1170 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 4: everyone fucking sees Aaron Donald. There's no question he's the best, 1171 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 4: and he goes on the biggest play and fucking wins 1172 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 4: the super Bowl. Like that's the shit I think about, 1173 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 4: Like when I get those moments, yeah, like it's touchdown, bro, 1174 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 4: and he wins and gets home ballgame, Like that's the 1175 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 4: type of shit I think about. Like I can lose 1176 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,240 Speaker 4: my shit right now and be like, well, the fucking 1177 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 4: Michael Parson is rushing with DeMarcus Lawrence and fucking you 1178 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 4: know he's got other whatever, but that's not you know, 1179 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 4: that's not what it is. My story is different than everybody. 1180 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 4: So I just trust that bro and I continue to 1181 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 4: just grind, bro work NonStop, and I trust it's all 1182 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,760 Speaker 4: going to work out the way I supposed. 1183 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 2: So when you first get to the NFL, like, there's 1184 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: a lot of distractions and guys like you you have 1185 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 2: no money. Then all of a sudden, you have a 1186 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,319 Speaker 2: bunch of money, regardless of where you're drafted, Like it's 1187 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,880 Speaker 2: more money than you've ever had, and that is difficult 1188 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 2: anywhere you go. But it's I can't imagine what it's 1189 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 2: like being a rookie or a younger guy and coming 1190 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 2: to Las Vegas to play for the Raiders, Like, how 1191 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 2: is that? How are you going to work through that process? 1192 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: Because that stadium, you can see it, you can see 1193 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,840 Speaker 2: the strip, and it is a cool place to be. 1194 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 2: It is fun. And if you're a young cat with 1195 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 2: note with all this money, like, how do you keep 1196 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 2: guys straight during the season when you're not winning all 1197 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 2: the games you should be winning. 1198 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,960 Speaker 4: That's that's a tough question. You know, everybody's different, and 1199 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 4: that's that's the biggest difference. When you get to the NFL, 1200 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 4: it's not like college. You know, everybody in college, It's like, yeah, 1201 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 4: it's a more structure. Everybody's on an even playing ground, 1202 00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 4: nobody's richer than this guy. It's like, this is what 1203 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 4: it is, you know what I mean? And now you 1204 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 4: get to the NFL, and if this is any city, 1205 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 4: you play for New York Giants. Here in New York City, 1206 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 4: it's there's always gonna be that. Like I was, Bro, 1207 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 4: I was in Ipsilony, Michigan, and I still found ways 1208 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 4: to get fucking lit and have fun and do all 1209 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 4: that shit. So like being in Vegas, obviously it's amplified, 1210 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 4: but I feel like just having a solid foundation, bro, 1211 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,680 Speaker 4: having good people around you, being around the right people, 1212 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 4: because there can be there's there's a million people that 1213 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 4: are gonna pull at you, and hey, I got this 1214 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 4: for you, Bro, Hey coming to this club, I got 1215 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 4: you hooked up. And then all of a sudden, two 1216 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 4: months later, like you owe me twenty thousand dollars from 1217 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 4: that one day, right, what you know what I mean? Fuck? Yeah, 1218 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 4: So like Bro, I just for me, it's just I 1219 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,200 Speaker 4: don't even Bro, I don't even go to the club. 1220 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,839 Speaker 4: I'm chilling all the time. I go to cigar lines. 1221 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 4: That's the only thing I do. So for you, I stay. Yeah, 1222 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 4: I have a different but yeah, for young guys, bro, 1223 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 4: it's hard. Like if I was here as a rookie, Bro, 1224 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 4: I don't even know what the fuck I was. 1225 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like you've been you've been really 1226 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 2: vocal about your whole process when you first came in 1227 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,920 Speaker 2: the league. Imagine if you were in Vegas. 1228 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 4: I broud be crazy. And that's that's the thing, Like 1229 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 4: I say, like these rookies, I can't sit here and 1230 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 4: be like stay in your house and do it like 1231 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, bro, gods are 1232 00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,760 Speaker 4: gonna go out, especially if you're gouds you're gonna especially 1233 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 4: if you're singer, You're gonna be out doing whatever you're 1234 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 4: gonna do. It's just about being being smart, bro, Be cautious, 1235 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 4: don't go out by yourself, don't go out with people 1236 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 4: you don't know, like you really got to roll with 1237 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 4: the people you trust, and stay out the bullshit because 1238 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 4: there's a bunch of bullshit going on, especially at that 1239 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 4: Or you go out to a nightclub, you don't know 1240 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 4: what the fuck's gonna happen, you know what I mean. 1241 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,160 Speaker 4: Somebody they see you, they know you're an NFL player, 1242 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 4: You're immediately a target no matter what it is, like 1243 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 4: they want whatever you got, so and people are willing 1244 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 4: to lose whatever they have to fucking get what you have. 1245 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 4: People will rob you and broad daylight, they don't care. 1246 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,760 Speaker 4: And that's just the thing, you know, for the young guys, 1247 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 4: just knowing who you're around and trust and don't just 1248 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 4: be out and about like it's normal, you know what 1249 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 4: I mean, You're not. I think that's the thing I 1250 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 4: really like. I still have to slap myself because I'll 1251 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,240 Speaker 4: drive and pull up to a gas station by myself 1252 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 4: and the fucking big chain of I won't even think 1253 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,480 Speaker 4: about it, you know what I mean. And that's that's 1254 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 4: now like as I gotten older, like I truly have 1255 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 4: to like slap myself in the face, like I'm not. 1256 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 4: I can't just roll around and do whatever like normal 1257 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,560 Speaker 4: sometimes because people are crazy. Bro. You see it all 1258 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 4: the time, guys NFL players go to LA and get 1259 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 4: fucking their whole shit robbed and taken and they're just 1260 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 4: going out there to go hang out with family. It's 1261 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 4: like it's dangerous bro, especially nowadays, but you see more 1262 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,720 Speaker 4: and more of it all the time. 1263 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 7: Uh. 1264 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 5: Can you talk about when the switch with Derek Carr 1265 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 5: was made, how how it impacted you and how you 1266 00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 5: felt like it probably impacted the team in that moment, 1267 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 5: if at all, because obviously there was a lot of 1268 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 5: noise outside of the building. 1269 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of noise. A lot of noise. It's 1270 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 4: definitely outside the building. It was tough, Bro. I remember 1271 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,520 Speaker 4: that morning because. 1272 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 5: DC's been the defranchise guy since you've you've came to 1273 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 5: the Raiders. 1274 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1275 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a all four years. Is my quarterback 1276 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 4: is nine years as a starter, which is crazy. It 1277 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 4: doesn't happen. So, yeah, I'm sitting there, You're hearing rumors like, Okay, 1278 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 4: is Derek going to get bench this week? You know 1279 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 4: what is going on? Blah blah blah, and you're just 1280 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,719 Speaker 4: kind of hearing rumors room. But you know how it is, 1281 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 4: you don't believe all the shit. You're just like, okay, 1282 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,960 Speaker 4: we'll see and then all of a sudden, like we 1283 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 4: went in that morning and me and DC are always 1284 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 4: the first two guys in there, and we sit there 1285 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 4: and eat breakfast. It's like squad is at eight. Like, 1286 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 4: we're in there at six o'clock and we sit there 1287 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 4: and we eat breakfast together. We talk, We go in 1288 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 4: the hot tub, I go take a dump, and then 1289 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 4: he goes and does whatever he does, you know what 1290 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,479 Speaker 4: I mean. So I go in there and DC wasn't 1291 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 4: there at the breakfast table, and so I asked Angie, 1292 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 4: who's there? She runs the kitchen. She's the best. Shout 1293 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 4: out to Angie's camera. I love you, Angie. She's the best. 1294 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,879 Speaker 4: She always sists with us and watches it and just 1295 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 4: chops it up with us. And I was like, Angie, 1296 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 4: where's DC. Have you seen him? She's like, no, he 1297 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 4: hasn't been in yet, and that's in my hat. I'm like, fuck, 1298 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,240 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Something went down. So yeah, 1299 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 4: like an hour later, I'm in my locker. I just 1300 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 4: got out the hot tub and DC walks in and 1301 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 4: he's looking at me, and I just knew, like I already, 1302 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 4: I just knew immediately, and he just whatever. He gave 1303 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,799 Speaker 4: me a man hug. He's like, bro, I don't want 1304 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,360 Speaker 4: to make it look like I'm, you know, quitting on 1305 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 4: y'all or anything, but like me and Josh talk like 1306 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 4: I'm you know, I'm gonna be I'm gonna go home 1307 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 4: and for these next two weeks and you know, figure 1308 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 4: out my situation. But it was like, you know, obviously 1309 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,560 Speaker 4: they had their business behind the scenes and they've had 1310 00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 4: you know, had an agreement, so like it wasn't like 1311 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 4: he was just like fuck it, I'm not showing up. 1312 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,360 Speaker 4: It was just like, you know, business. So yeah, it 1313 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 4: was tough. Like DC's my boy, Bro, Like me and 1314 00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 4: DC have been always, you know, as friends. Like, Bro, 1315 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,800 Speaker 4: he's a great dude. I love DC and he's gonna, 1316 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 4: you know, somebody's gonna have him as their starter next 1317 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 4: year and hopefully I get to play against him and 1318 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 4: be dope. But I wish him the best. Bro. It's 1319 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 4: just it's hard, like in this league, there's really you know, 1320 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 4: you can play for a team for ten years, give 1321 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 4: everything you got, like, but unless you're like Michael Jordan 1322 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 4: or you're Tom Brady. Like even Tom Brady, it's the 1323 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 4: same thing. Like, Bro, he was in year twenty one 1324 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 4: six Super Bowl and there he ended with a bad 1325 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,880 Speaker 4: relationship and they got rid of you know what I mean, 1326 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 4: and there was kind of friction. Like it's crazy, Bro. 1327 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,040 Speaker 4: At the end of the day. So it's a business 1328 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,760 Speaker 4: and that's the thing. You got to realize. It's not personal. 1329 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 4: It's not like people don't like DC. Everyone you know, 1330 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 4: everyone's cool with DC. We love them. But it is 1331 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,280 Speaker 4: what it is. You know, Josh and Dave, they got 1332 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 4: their visual what they want and you know, that's just 1333 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 4: part of this business, man, And I trust them. You know, 1334 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 4: I'm on this team and they're my coaches that at 1335 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 4: the end of the day, I gotta believe in what 1336 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 4: they got, you know what I mean, and what they're 1337 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 4: bringing and what they're doing. But at the same time, 1338 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,120 Speaker 4: it's hard when it's your boy and there's a motion 1339 00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,680 Speaker 4: to it, so it's like, damn, what the fuck and 1340 00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 4: then you like you want to get mad, but it's like, 1341 00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 4: at the same time, you have to understand both sides 1342 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 4: of it. And that's kind of what I've learned, you know, 1343 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,480 Speaker 4: being in the league more, it's like you can't you 1344 00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 4: can't take shit personally because it's not personal. Bro, It's 1345 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 4: a billion dollar bussiness and it is what it is. 1346 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 2: Dude, I've been around Derek just like a handful of times, 1347 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 2: he's like the nicest he seems like the nicest guy yeah, focused, 1348 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: kind like charismatic. Good dude, So he's gone, this is 1349 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 2: the off season. Hypothetically, who do you want to be 1350 00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 2: the quarterback of the Las Vegas Raiders? 1351 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 4: Who do I want? 1352 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 2: Like, if it was just your world they called you 1353 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,800 Speaker 2: say who you want? You got who you want? You 1354 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,080 Speaker 2: get to play GM, You get to play GM. Now 1355 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 2: this will be taking out of context, people like, oh, maximants, 1356 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 2: this guy wants that guy. I'm just saying, perfect world boss. Yeah, fun, hypothetical, fun, hypotheticathetic, 1357 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 2: We're just we're having a little giggle time. 1358 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 4: Dude. 1359 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 2: That is a nice little time. Tom Brady and two dogs, 1360 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 2: three dogs down. One over there. She's sucking. Yeah, she's 1361 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 2: snucking behind the tom Brady. 1362 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 4: I would love to have tom Brady. How I don't 1363 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 4: know how that can be controversy. Tom Brady as a leader, 1364 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 4: as a fucking player, as the goat. Fuck yeah, I 1365 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 4: would love to play with Dom Brady if he can do. 1366 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,840 Speaker 4: If you come to Vegas, Bro, I'll fucking fly. I'll 1367 00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 4: go to wherever he's at to introduce myself. The level 1368 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 4: of respect I got for him, Bro is out this world. 1369 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, I would love to have tom Brady. But 1370 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 4: we'll see. I don't I don't know what's gonna happen. 1371 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 4: But I've only met him when I played him two 1372 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 4: years ago. It was the COVID year and he was 1373 00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 4: on the field. We played in Vegas, empty ass stadium. 1374 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 4: We come in for pregame, and I always, like early 1375 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 4: on in my career, i'd always like kind of walk 1376 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 4: around the field and it was like a part of 1377 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 4: my routine in like my full like pregame outfit, like 1378 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 4: just my my fit. And I'm walking by myself, going 1379 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 4: around and then fucking Brady walks out of the locker 1380 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 4: room by himself, and I'm like, oh my god, Like 1381 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,240 Speaker 4: I felt it. I felt the aura and uh, I 1382 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 4: seen him. We didn't say anything to each other at 1383 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,080 Speaker 4: the time. Whatever. I was just walking do my thing. 1384 00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 4: He's walking, he's just kind of looking around, looking at 1385 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,920 Speaker 4: the stadium, which is in hindsight, it's kind of crazy, 1386 00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, it's just plotting out. But yeah, but anyway, 1387 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 4: so I talked to him after the game. He's you know, 1388 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 4: obviously he's a great dude. He was super cool. But yeah, bro, 1389 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 4: I would love obviously I would love that Tom Brady. 1390 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 4: He's a goat the Yeah. 1391 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 2: Very few people you ever meet in your life had 1392 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 2: that kind of aura. 1393 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely. 1394 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: Everyone I've met who has met Tom was like, dude, 1395 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 2: it's like a glow behind him. 1396 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 4: It's different. Bro. 1397 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 2: Yeah he's like too handsome. 1398 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he's had something done. 1399 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's a classic amount. Like there, he doesn't 1400 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 2: look like he's like, you know my mangos botox, like 1401 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 2: it's it's you know them teeth a real No. But 1402 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 2: I think he's done a classic amount of work. 1403 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 4: High classic. 1404 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like, what's going down with 1405 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 5: the cheeks? 1406 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,240 Speaker 8: Baby, I'm not gonna do some shit I can't say, 1407 01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,360 Speaker 8: but yeah, dude, he does because you look at pictures 1408 01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 8: of him, and I hope on this YouTube right now 1409 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 8: are flashing a picture of Tom from his year because my. 1410 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 2: God, he had that rounded out face, no cheekbones, no 1411 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,880 Speaker 2: cheek that's different. Yeah, bro, he different now, Jesus bro, 1412 01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 2: he's like forty seven. 1413 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 4: He's like forty seven, dude, he's not getting young on 1414 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 4: the Do you think. 1415 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 2: He still got it? Sorry, I hate to cut you off. 1416 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 2: I know you probably bere pivoting, but do you think 1417 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 2: Tom still has it? 1418 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 1419 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 2: I love that. 1420 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 4: I agree with you one hundred absolutely. I hate when 1421 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,479 Speaker 4: people you think so many forties, like mid forty matter. 1422 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 4: They said that when he was forty. You know, he's 1423 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 4: forty six. Now look how they got into the playoffs. 1424 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 4: Bro he was snapping and having comeback games. He threw 1425 01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 4: for four hundred yards just two weeks ago. They had 1426 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,640 Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, Brot, they had bro. I watched 1427 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,439 Speaker 4: football and Tom could still play. He's their whole line 1428 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 4: was playing murdered this year. And that's just out of respect. 1429 01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 4: They were. I think they were ranked last in the league. 1430 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 4: Like he was getting hit all the time. They had 1431 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,600 Speaker 4: a lot of injuries, their backs were hurt, like they 1432 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 4: had a lot of ship going on. But it's funny 1433 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,160 Speaker 4: you look back. You see what he did his last 1434 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 4: year in New England when you all beat him, everyone 1435 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 4: said the same thing. Oh he's done, He's he's done, 1436 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 4: and this is I look at it like and I'm 1437 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:17,160 Speaker 4: you know, I like to write that little story. It's like, oh, 1438 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 4: well his last who ras you know, two to three 1439 01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 4: year deal it, you know in Las Vegas, it's just 1440 01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 4: come on, let's be real. Yeah, so we'll see. 1441 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: And he got studs on offense too. 1442 01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 4: He's get a line. Our old line was played a 1443 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 4: lot better than people expected this year. That's the. 1444 01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 3: Rushing chip on his shoulder. 1445 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 4: DeVante went for over fifteen hundred. We have Colt Miller, one 1446 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 4: of the best left tackles in the league. We got 1447 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 4: a lot of bro we got we got a lot 1448 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,479 Speaker 4: of a lot of sod guys for sure. 1449 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,360 Speaker 2: Do you think, uh, what do you think Josh Jacob's 1450 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,360 Speaker 2: future is with the Raiders right now because he's about 1451 01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,400 Speaker 2: to be a free agent. 1452 01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 4: He's free agent. Yeah, so I know for a fact 1453 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,640 Speaker 4: that the coaches love him. Obviously. When they first came 1454 01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 4: they we had three first round picks from my class. 1455 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 4: It was Cleve, Josh, and John Abram. And before the 1456 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 4: year they declined all their fifth year options. So everyone's like, 1457 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 4: oh fuck, they're you know how they are in New England. 1458 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 4: They don't value the running back. Boom bom boom, bom boom. 1459 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 4: From my perspective, I know Josh like me and Josh 1460 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 4: have been boys since I got there, and Josh is 1461 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 4: one of those people that like he need like I 1462 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,520 Speaker 4: feel like he needs that little extra motivation like oh 1463 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 4: you don't okay, I remember exactly what you said, He's 1464 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:38,800 Speaker 4: gonna make you look dumb. And that's what I feel 1465 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 4: like this year was like everyone is saying, oh, it's 1466 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,360 Speaker 4: new England. They don't you know, they don't value running 1467 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 4: backs to saying they'll just bring him in. Josh literally 1468 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 4: was the best running back in the league and this 1469 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,920 Speaker 4: year and he can't even argue it. Every category, yards 1470 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 4: per carry, broken tackles, for amount of first rounds run 1471 01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 4: like he did everything. And so I'm extreme proud of him, 1472 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 4: obviously being being one of my boys. But I think 1473 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,320 Speaker 4: he's gonna stay here, bro, and no matter. I don't 1474 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,880 Speaker 4: know how that's what that's going to look like if 1475 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 4: they tag or try to sign an extension, but I 1476 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 4: think he's one that's one thousand percent earned an extension. 1477 01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 4: Like the dude has been a pro bowler. I think 1478 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 4: this is third time now in four years. So like 1479 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 4: he's the dude is a dog. He's an absolute dog, 1480 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 4: you know, Josh, he's the ship. He plays too. He's 1481 01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 4: always banged up. 1482 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 3: And he's always about like you know, I remember when 1483 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 3: we got our assole from the Chiefs. 1484 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was so pissed about him fumbling, like 1485 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,880 Speaker 5: early in the game and just like, man on the 1486 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 5: outside looking in, what do you feel like it is? 1487 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 5: I'm like, I just fucking guy it like we just 1488 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,120 Speaker 5: got our ass. But he's very much like in it. 1489 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 4: He loves football. 1490 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, he loves ball. 1491 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 4: That's what I talk about. The guys like that, the Davante's. 1492 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 4: We need guys that have that mindset, no matter what 1493 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,240 Speaker 4: the talent level. The Deron Harmon's the dude who really 1494 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 4: loved football. That's what you need the building and Josh 1495 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 4: is one that guy. 1496 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 5: Uh going back just for a second on the on 1497 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 5: the DC situation, was there ever a time where you're like, 1498 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 5: fuck Mancuz there there is. 1499 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 3: A lot uh uh you know that? 1500 01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 5: Like I think it was a statistic that was out 1501 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 5: there that the Raiders been ranked like bottom tier defense 1502 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 5: since he's been a quarterback. Do you like ever sit 1503 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 5: there you're like, fuck, man, like you put a little 1504 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 5: bit on yourself. Obviously you ultimately don't or you can't, 1505 01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 5: but you're just like, fuck if we could. 1506 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,920 Speaker 4: Have just honestly, bro, I don't know how to answer that, 1507 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, early in his career, like 1508 01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 4: their defense is like bottom defense every year, Like we 1509 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,440 Speaker 4: haven't been the worst of the worst, but we haven't 1510 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 4: been great. But also you just look at it. We've 1511 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 4: had three different decoordinators in the last three years, So, like, 1512 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 4: I think stability is a big thing as well, and 1513 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 4: that's something you know, having Pat Graham back next year 1514 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 4: for the second year, I feel like we're only going 1515 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 4: to get better. And you know, having Josh back, Like everybody, 1516 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 4: if it immediately doesn't work, they're like, fucking fire everyone vote. 1517 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,000 Speaker 4: That's that's the outside world, and that's just you know, 1518 01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 4: that's natural because you see other coaches like day ball 1519 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 4: comes in, boom, giants playoffs already, want to playoff game, 1520 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 4: be like, oh fuck, why aren't we doing that? 1521 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 3: Josh automatically gets compared to yeah, immediately compared. 1522 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,160 Speaker 4: But every situation is different, and so you know, it 1523 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 4: is what it is. You know, as from the fans perspective, 1524 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,400 Speaker 4: it's like, what the fuck fucked him? We're firing them. 1525 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 4: That's how they think about every coach if you don't 1526 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 4: succeed right away. But you know, I feel like Josh 1527 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 4: is doing the right thing. It's just gonna take time, 1528 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,000 Speaker 4: for sure, and I feel like we're you know, we're 1529 01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 4: going in the right direction. 1530 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 3: Are you the Were you the biggest Pro Bowl snub 1531 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 3: in the league? 1532 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 4: I made the Pro Bowl or a Pro a Pro? 1533 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 5: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on? Were you 1534 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,120 Speaker 5: the biggest All Pro snub in the league. 1535 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 4: That's not me to decide, but you're. 1536 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 3: A competitive motherfucker. 1537 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 4: No, it's that ship. 1538 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 5: I saw vocalize it a little bit or enough to 1539 01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 5: be like, hey, this is a receipt. 1540 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,439 Speaker 4: I'm yeah, for sure, but it's it's like anything else. Bro, 1541 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,600 Speaker 4: when I look at it, you know, you have this 1542 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,440 Speaker 4: own story in your head. Boom, this is how it's 1543 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,160 Speaker 4: gonna go. I want this, I want this, I'm gonna 1544 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,120 Speaker 4: get this like this year. Bro. If I look at like, 1545 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 4: I made All Pro last year, I was second team 1546 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 4: All Pro, had eight sacks, but I had one hundred 1547 01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 4: plus pressures boom whatever. And that was like, you know, 1548 01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:22,440 Speaker 4: from the outside world, ever was like, Oh, it's a 1549 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 4: fucking flash in the pan. He's just doing it because 1550 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 4: it was a contract. He needed to get a contract. 1551 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,440 Speaker 4: Like I heard that shit all off season, Like okay, 1552 01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,240 Speaker 4: it was like this big storybook. Max told everybody about 1553 01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 4: his sobriety story. Like it was just like people, that's 1554 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 4: everyone had like, oh, it's just too good to be true. 1555 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,120 Speaker 4: That was his year. But like people, I feel like 1556 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 4: people in the outside world didn't truly respect me, like 1557 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 4: fully as like a Miles Garrett or TJ. Watts, cause 1558 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,720 Speaker 4: you know, they're all first round picks, they're all top 1559 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 4: ten guys, they're all consistently ballers. Like so for me 1560 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 4: going into this year, like my attitude was like fuck that, 1561 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm that guy, Like I'm gonna be that 1562 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,080 Speaker 4: guy I'm gonna be because I'm always compared ever sus 1563 01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,919 Speaker 4: Khalil mac left. Like everyone talks about how the Raiders 1564 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,360 Speaker 4: been missing a pass rusher, missing Kalil mac. We haven't 1565 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 4: recovered from Khalil mac leven. And that's like something I 1566 01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 4: take super serious, bro like and I take offense, like 1567 01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:12,600 Speaker 4: I take offense to that shit, like but in a 1568 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 4: good way. I let he use his motivation and so 1569 01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 4: like in my storybook, like I have a lot of 1570 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 4: things that I want to do and going into this year, like, 1571 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,800 Speaker 4: all right, how am I gonna do better? How am 1572 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,840 Speaker 4: I gonna do better than second team All Pro? Okay, 1573 01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 4: I want to be first team All Pro. I want 1574 01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 4: to do There's a lot of things. But I'm not 1575 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 4: like a big like number. I don't I don't put 1576 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,520 Speaker 4: a number on anything like I'm gonna get this amount 1577 01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,560 Speaker 4: of sacks, this amount of blah blah blah. For me, 1578 01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:37,440 Speaker 4: it's like I'm gonna fucking improve, well whatever that looks like, 1579 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna improve as a player and take it to 1580 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:44,280 Speaker 4: another take a whole another step. And I've just from 1581 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 4: a film perspective, from a stat perspective, I did that 1582 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 4: and literally every fast I have more Bro. I led 1583 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,160 Speaker 4: the team in tackles as a d N. I have 1584 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 4: fucking eighty nine tackles, Like I had twenty two TFLs. 1585 01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,720 Speaker 4: I led the league. I had twelve and a half sacks, 1586 01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 4: was like tied six. I've pressures. I was top three 1587 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 4: in the league, like every category, Like I took big strides. 1588 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 4: And for me, in my head, like my perfect story 1589 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,560 Speaker 4: is boom, I'm a start in the Pro Bowl again. 1590 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,720 Speaker 4: I got that the last thing was all pro and 1591 01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 4: I'm waiting. I'm like boom, I can't wait. But then 1592 01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, I look at the list, I'm 1593 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,880 Speaker 4: like what and like I was shook, Bro, like I 1594 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 4: was hurt, Like you know what, I mean deep down 1595 01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,760 Speaker 4: like that. That shit hurt my pride. I'm like, what 1596 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,400 Speaker 4: the fuck? I got better? Bro, I know I got better, 1597 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,000 Speaker 4: and I didn't make it. And that's like that's the thing, 1598 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 4: and in my perspective, in my world, like I wanted 1599 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,880 Speaker 4: that was the final thing that I fucking wanted on 1600 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:40,560 Speaker 4: this season. You know, we didn't make the playoffs. I 1601 01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 4: knew weren't making the playoffs, like just from my personal goals. 1602 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,560 Speaker 4: And then I didn't get that. And I'm like, all right, motherfuckers, 1603 01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:52,080 Speaker 4: Like the season went great, but I'm not doing enough. 1604 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 4: That's just the way I took it. And I know 1605 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 4: I got back forgot yeah, But at the same time 1606 01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:00,360 Speaker 4: I forgot it, like bro, Like yeah, like I know 1607 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,160 Speaker 4: I got better. My goal was to get better. I 1608 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 4: did bro everything in my power all fucking off season, 1609 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,600 Speaker 4: every I did everything right, and then that was the 1610 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 4: last thing that I wanted and boom, I didn't get it. 1611 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 4: And so for me, I could sit there and bitch 1612 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,840 Speaker 4: and go on Twitter. Fuck that is bullshit. You know. 1613 01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 4: You see guys all the time bitching about the show. 1614 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 4: You see just a couple of games ago when fucking 1615 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 4: dude had a meltdown and blaming the refs, and I 1616 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 4: see dudes blaming all fucking old lineman hold all the time. Refs, 1617 01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 4: don't call it like I'll never be that guy. Bro, 1618 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,320 Speaker 4: I think that's you know, shit like that is so 1619 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 4: weak to me, Like you're gonna get held, like I'm 1620 01:09:35,320 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 4: I know I get held all the time. You watch 1621 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 4: the Rams last drive against us, But I was getting 1622 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 4: literally tackled. But I'm not gonna go and double down 1623 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 4: and go look like a little fucking cry baby. You 1624 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 4: know what I mean. That's not me. So at the 1625 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:49,559 Speaker 4: end of the day, like the last thing I wanted 1626 01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 4: was to get that all pro But I know at 1627 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 4: the end of the day, like I'm gonna look back 1628 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 4: next year when I do everything I'd set out to 1629 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,839 Speaker 4: do and be like, yeah, this shit was for a reason. 1630 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,759 Speaker 4: God needed that little That little thing is gonna fucking 1631 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 4: push me to do that extra little wrap, the extra 1632 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,080 Speaker 4: little ship. And it is what it is, Like that 1633 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 4: ship pisses me, like it really hurt me. But don't 1634 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 4: you like that. 1635 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 3: You know that's kind of not for me to like, hey, 1636 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,439 Speaker 3: come on now, he's like, man, I fucking bro that ship. 1637 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that ship, dude. No, Like I did I 1638 01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 4: get it. It is what it is, and I can't 1639 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 4: do anything like in my young self, like I thought 1640 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,240 Speaker 4: the same thing, like my rookie when I was going 1641 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,680 Speaker 4: my rookie year, Like I thought I was gonna win 1642 01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,160 Speaker 4: Rookie of the Year. I thought I should have won it. 1643 01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 4: I didn't, and but that helped me the next year. 1644 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 4: Like it's always something that every player needs, that little 1645 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 4: extra motivation and like I can't control that. But at 1646 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,479 Speaker 4: the end of the day, Bro, I know like it's 1647 01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 4: all gonna pay off, Like it's all gonna I don't 1648 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 4: need to force it and talk on Twitter and do 1649 01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,600 Speaker 4: all this extra ship and complain. And what is that 1650 01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 4: gonna do for me? Bro? It's gonna make me look 1651 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,880 Speaker 4: like an ass if I go next year and don't 1652 01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:59,800 Speaker 4: play as well, you know what I mean. Like I'm 1653 01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 4: to do everything I can to be better than I 1654 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,800 Speaker 4: was this year, and that's that's what's gonna push me. 1655 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,519 Speaker 4: So yeah, it does what it is. 1656 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 3: What is it? 1657 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 2: So if you're looking at it now like I was 1658 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,960 Speaker 2: snubbed that pissed you off, I think I gotta work 1659 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 2: hard and do what were things little minor critiques you 1660 01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,880 Speaker 2: make to your off season training regiment that might get 1661 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 2: you that all pro. 1662 01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 4: I honestly, I think that that's something I'm looking at 1663 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 4: right now before I start training again. Before I start 1664 01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 4: training again. I do it every year, especially these last 1665 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:30,439 Speaker 4: two years. 1666 01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 2: Is you train here? 1667 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:32,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? I train in Vegas? 1668 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1669 01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 4: Do you train the facility? So yeah, that's something I'm 1670 01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,080 Speaker 4: evaluating right now. 1671 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:44,599 Speaker 5: He's like, he hears my mouth in the microphone. 1672 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,040 Speaker 2: Dude, we'll bro anytime someone goes and starts talking, he 1673 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 2: opens his mouth like that, Well, the. 1674 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 3: Ship's going on up up, up up top. 1675 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,559 Speaker 2: He's juicing me, you live together. 1676 01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,599 Speaker 5: I like com you know what I mean. I'm just like, 1677 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 5: it's just me taking in. I guess I can't fucking 1678 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 5: hell you say. 1679 01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:06,080 Speaker 7: You say. 1680 01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 4: You got me wrong? 1681 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 3: I'm up. 1682 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,280 Speaker 2: You got was like a hyper deal right there. Somebody 1683 01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,520 Speaker 2: needs to cut that and put a bunch of music behind. 1684 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,000 Speaker 4: It, Spartan music. 1685 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like drake, dude, did somebody tell me I 1686 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 2: fell off? 1687 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 7: Oh? 1688 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 4: I needed that? 1689 01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1690 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,920 Speaker 4: I needed it. But that's yeah for me, Like my routine, 1691 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,760 Speaker 4: that's something I'm gonna breakdown. Like I've already talked to 1692 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 4: the strength staff, the nutrition is We've already sat down 1693 01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 4: and boom, we're gonna this is what We're gonna do, 1694 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 4: a little adjustments where I can, you know, improve on. 1695 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,599 Speaker 4: But it's it's not the work ethic part of it, bro. 1696 01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:41,679 Speaker 4: I put in I know I worked fucking extremely hard. 1697 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,240 Speaker 4: It's just about how can I make it a little 1698 01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:45,840 Speaker 4: bit better? What can I do a little bit smarter? 1699 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 4: A little shit like that, And so that like this 1700 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 4: second year, like going into my third year, there was 1701 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 4: a lot of big adjustments I had to make, and 1702 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 4: I felt like I took another big step, like I 1703 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 4: added boxing into my off days instead of just doing 1704 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 4: strictly tubs and chilling an hour boxing and in that 1705 01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439 Speaker 4: so there's something you know, there's always gonna be little 1706 01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 4: shit like I'm sorry, I'm gonna add yoga this offseason, 1707 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,559 Speaker 4: like just adding little shit. But I you know, I 1708 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 4: don't know everything yet, but just try to take that 1709 01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:17,280 Speaker 4: take that next big step, because I know in this league, bro, 1710 01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 4: like if the biggest thing is the guys that continue 1711 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 4: to do it, and you know this fucking well being 1712 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,240 Speaker 4: a pro Bowl doing it over and over, like do 1713 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 4: you either get worse or you get better? And like 1714 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 4: there's no in between. You don't just stay the same 1715 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 4: you don't like. For me, it's I can't like I 1716 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 4: can't even I don't even know what life will look 1717 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 4: like just in my brain if I didn't do all 1718 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:38,639 Speaker 4: the things I was doing now, Like if I could 1719 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,000 Speaker 4: just chill this offseason, like a lot of guys do it, 1720 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:44,599 Speaker 4: They're fucking chilling and and just take a step back, 1721 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 4: Like I can't even sit, Like I have to take 1722 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 4: this time off to just let my body rest. But 1723 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm still meal prepping, stretching, norma, taking every day like 1724 01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 4: I have to do it for my own sanity. So 1725 01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 4: like that's that's what it is for me, bro, just 1726 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 4: taking that next step. I'm fucking like obsessed with the 1727 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,960 Speaker 4: process because I know where I want to go and 1728 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,920 Speaker 4: I can't do it any other way. So I'm just 1729 01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 4: fine tuning everything. Well, you know, we'll see what we'll 1730 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:10,480 Speaker 4: be got on the agenda this offseason. 1731 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,440 Speaker 2: The addiction becoming a superpower. 1732 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, this is. 1733 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 2: An outstanding first impression for me with you. 1734 01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 3: I'm very impressed. 1735 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,000 Speaker 5: I'm glad you guys are finally You'm glad you guys 1736 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 5: are finally meeting too. I'm like, damn, I thought I 1737 01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:25,760 Speaker 5: guess you guys haven't met it. 1738 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,439 Speaker 2: It's just crazy because when I literally when I saw you, 1739 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,479 Speaker 2: we were waiting for us outside, which is very kind 1740 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,120 Speaker 2: of you, by the way, to wait for us when 1741 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,880 Speaker 2: we were pulling up, like, oh, there's the boy. Like 1742 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 2: I feel, I literally feel like we've. 1743 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:37,680 Speaker 4: Met before hung out. 1744 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 2: So this has been and it's cool to see your 1745 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:44,000 Speaker 2: mindset because you've got it, Bud. I appreciate it about 1746 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 2: it everything but being white, like everything's going for you. 1747 01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 4: It means a lot. 1748 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,879 Speaker 5: Bro Taylor knows when I when I got to Oakland 1749 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 5: and my boy checked in on me after my first 1750 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 5: day in school with the Raiders, and I was like, hey, 1751 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,240 Speaker 5: somebody on the squad is like a fan of Busting 1752 01:14:58,280 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 5: with the Boys. 1753 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 3: I was like his max across me. 1754 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 5: You weren't who you are now, but it was like, 1755 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 5: I don't know, And now looking back, that's fucking cool. 1756 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy. That's crazy when you. 1757 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 5: Hey, you're like he's like telling somebody, goes, no, this 1758 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,799 Speaker 5: man is famous. I'm just kind of sitting there like nervous, 1759 01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 5: you know, first day, in the. 1760 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,839 Speaker 2: First day, Oh yeah, there's somebody. 1761 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,040 Speaker 3: He's like, He's like, now I'll rock with busting with 1762 01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:20,840 Speaker 3: the boys. I'm like, Yo, let's fucking go. 1763 01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 2: That's a hilarious contrast to you going up the will 1764 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 2: being like half fuck with you guys, and then Richie 1765 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 2: Incognita being. 1766 01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,800 Speaker 4: Like, oh I do busting with the bully, just bullying 1767 01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 4: fucking bully. Melliam. 1768 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 2: How what was I like playing with that Richie? 1769 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,759 Speaker 4: Shit? I love Richie. He is one of my favorite 1770 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,760 Speaker 4: teammates I've ever had. The dude is he like it's 1771 01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 4: you talk about work ethic, That motherfucker works, bro, And 1772 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,559 Speaker 4: like takes the way he took care of his body, 1773 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,679 Speaker 4: how massive he is and playing fifteen years white body 1774 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,599 Speaker 4: bro fucking soundtrack. Bro. And he looks like he's sixteen 1775 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,400 Speaker 4: years old in the face, no stretch, Like he just 1776 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,240 Speaker 4: the dude is different, and he's been through a lot 1777 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:00,479 Speaker 4: of ship and like just being around on him and 1778 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 4: getting to, you know, become closer with him, Like he 1779 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 4: was truly one of the best team teammates I had, 1780 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,040 Speaker 4: like take me under the wing like type of dude. 1781 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 4: Like he was exactly that guy. Like for some reason 1782 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,120 Speaker 4: when I first got there, like we practiced, you know, 1783 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 4: we start practicing doing ota together and like we started 1784 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 4: to like become boys because I'm fucked up in the 1785 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,080 Speaker 4: head like he is. Like I'm practicing hard as fuck, 1786 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 4: Like we're not even in pads, and you know, I'm 1787 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 4: a rookie. I'm just trying to make an impression and 1788 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,639 Speaker 4: like I'm flying around the field. And for some reason, 1789 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 4: like Richie obviously is he pay He's paying attention a 1790 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,280 Speaker 4: little bit seeing how I do shit, and like he 1791 01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 4: just we immediately clicked because he respected it, just how 1792 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:37,920 Speaker 4: I did shit. And ever since then, bro, we became boys. 1793 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 4: And I still like when he retired, I went up 1794 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 4: and seen him, like on his retirement and like me 1795 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 4: and him always, you know, been really cool. And he 1796 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 4: goes to all the freaking games. I'll be on the 1797 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,760 Speaker 4: sideline about to walk, the game's about to start. He'll 1798 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,640 Speaker 4: be in there in a polo, just fucking grab me, 1799 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,280 Speaker 4: give me a biggest hug in the planet, fucking throw 1800 01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 4: my rib out because he squeezes the life out of me. 1801 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,360 Speaker 4: But he's yeah, I fucking I can go on and 1802 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 4: on about Richie Bros. He's a loyal die hard, just 1803 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,479 Speaker 4: like real real bro. 1804 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,640 Speaker 2: A healthy healthy is one of the best friends to have. 1805 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 4: No literally, he is an incredible human being, absolutely what. 1806 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:12,679 Speaker 3: A massive fucking dog. 1807 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 4: He's a big boy. 1808 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:15,760 Speaker 5: No, he stood up and everybody can see him to 1809 01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,720 Speaker 5: everybody's like, holy ship. Literally, he like, take my life 1810 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 5: any second you wanted. 1811 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:22,160 Speaker 3: Max. 1812 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:24,160 Speaker 5: I like, I came in the house before I came 1813 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 5: in the house, and Max is like, hey, just walk straight, 1814 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 5: don't really, don't look down at don't make any facial expressions, 1815 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,519 Speaker 5: and I'm just kind of like walking the house and 1816 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,280 Speaker 5: Max just starts. He's like, you know, he's not gonna 1817 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,439 Speaker 5: do nothing, but he watched the wires. 1818 01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 3: Watch the wires, Dirk. 1819 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:40,679 Speaker 4: Direk, go, buddy, He's just gonna he'll be fine. He'll 1820 01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 4: stay on there for like five minutes. 1821 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 3: He was assessing the situation before he came over. 1822 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 4: He doesn't want to fun it up. Tear talk. Yeah, 1823 01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 4: do we have well, let's take a quick pause talk. 1824 01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,720 Speaker 3: Yeah all right. 1825 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,559 Speaker 2: So for Tier Talk this week, we are going to 1826 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 2: do best dog breads, and I feel like best and favorite. 1827 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,760 Speaker 2: There's a great line there, because I'm sure you could 1828 01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 2: look up the best dogs and it's probably like an 1829 01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:07,920 Speaker 2: equal out with us. We'll say our favorite dog Brits 1830 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:09,040 Speaker 2: for our Tier Talk. 1831 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to go first? 1832 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,120 Speaker 5: Let me go first, I can go first my uh 1833 01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 5: no honorable mentions. My Tier three is going to be Rottweiler. 1834 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 5: We had a dog growing up, my parents' first dog 1835 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 5: before they had me. You know how parents do the 1836 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 5: trial run, like, let's do a dog. We can take 1837 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 5: care of a dog, we can take care of a 1838 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:33,679 Speaker 5: baby type thing. They had a Rottweiler named Conan after 1839 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,960 Speaker 5: Conne and the Barbarian. They had him trained all the 1840 01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 5: way up to like he could have been like some 1841 01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,040 Speaker 5: kind of like the police style training dog, but he 1842 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 5: would have had to leave for like three months, but 1843 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,120 Speaker 5: a very well trained rotweiler and so ever since, Like 1844 01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 5: growing up with Conan, it was like I loved Rottweiler's 1845 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:49,960 Speaker 5: my tier two. 1846 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:56,519 Speaker 3: What I currently have waffle English bulldogs. They're just so like. 1847 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,200 Speaker 5: Unique to me, dude, and like you come home, they 1848 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,080 Speaker 5: don't greet you. They stay on the couch. You go in, 1849 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 5: like you have to go give them love. They kind 1850 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,000 Speaker 5: of just look sad and like, but they love you. 1851 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 5: The all they want to do is cuddle. Yeah, they 1852 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,120 Speaker 5: got a couple issues, yeah, but all in all, like 1853 01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:16,280 Speaker 5: I love English bulldogs. My buddies would have would have 1854 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,400 Speaker 5: them when I was growing up and I would go 1855 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 5: to their house and I love playing with them. And 1856 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 5: then Rob Rob Deer deck on the Fantasy Pactor and everything. 1857 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:24,479 Speaker 5: When they had that dog and it was skateboard and 1858 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,599 Speaker 5: everything else. I just always thought it was the fucking coolest. 1859 01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 5: Uh my Tier one pit bulls, I know it's I 1860 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,880 Speaker 5: know you love pits as well. I think pit bulls 1861 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 5: are fucking awesome. Yeah, I used to have. I used 1862 01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 5: to have a pit named Boogie. I named I made 1863 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,760 Speaker 5: my dog Boogie after Levonte David. Levonte David's nickname in 1864 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,240 Speaker 5: college was Boogie little Horny Boy. And so I told 1865 01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:52,760 Speaker 5: I told Boogie, I said, when I get my first dog, 1866 01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 5: it's gonna be a pit, and I'm gonna name them 1867 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 5: after you. So that's my story about having my pit. Then, 1868 01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,920 Speaker 5: you know, my girlfriend I broke up out of you know, guilt. 1869 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 5: You kind of like you can have Yeah, we can, Yeah, 1870 01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:05,400 Speaker 5: we can. 1871 01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:06,519 Speaker 3: Cut that part out. 1872 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:13,800 Speaker 5: But piles dud, I think, uh no, no, if you 1873 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 5: guys hear a baby, that's Max's newborn. 1874 01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:16,680 Speaker 3: She's a STU. 1875 01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,320 Speaker 5: She's trying to get some time in on the pod. 1876 01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:23,840 Speaker 5: You gotta respect respect that. But but that's my tear 1877 01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 5: talk now what the rule is you go around the 1878 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,280 Speaker 5: room and everybody gives a one word answer on how 1879 01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 5: they feel like your tear talk wing kind of like 1880 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,639 Speaker 5: a judgment thing. 1881 01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:39,479 Speaker 9: Okay, I'll let's tell you start this diseased Jesus not 1882 01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 9: a fan of pits? 1883 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 4: Magnificent? 1884 01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,160 Speaker 5: What would your word be? I'll go ahead and echo it, 1885 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,800 Speaker 5: swol Mitch almost. 1886 01:20:58,040 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 4: You want to go? 1887 01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:00,599 Speaker 3: You want me to go next, I'll go all right. 1888 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 4: Tier three. I'm gonna start off little Curveball. You know, 1889 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 4: the only dogs I've ever had are pits. My parents. 1890 01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 4: They own little, yappy little fuckers. I love them, but 1891 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 4: I never claimed them. I'm gonna start Tier three with Doberman's, 1892 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:26,800 Speaker 4: and the reason why is because they're excellent athletes. They're 1893 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,240 Speaker 4: fucking terrifying, and there's something about them. Every time I 1894 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,559 Speaker 4: see a Doberman, you get a little like you don't 1895 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,560 Speaker 4: know what's gonna kill me? Is he gonna kill me? 1896 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 4: Or is he like? I want this dude by my side. 1897 01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 4: So every time I see a Doberman, I just have 1898 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:41,719 Speaker 4: a level of respect for the dog that I felt 1899 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,640 Speaker 4: like it needed to make the list, because you know, 1900 01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,360 Speaker 4: they're not loved one enough. I feel like and they're 1901 01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:50,040 Speaker 4: feared in a way, but I respect them. Tier two, 1902 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go with rod Wilers. My teammates 1903 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,320 Speaker 4: in college, a ton of them had Rod Wiler's Cleeve Ferrell. 1904 01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,120 Speaker 4: He's got a roth Wiler, a great dog, super loyal, 1905 01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,559 Speaker 4: big ass, heady bears. But if they need to get 1906 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 4: the job done, they'll get the job done. So I 1907 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,479 Speaker 4: respect the shit out of them as well. But Number 1908 01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 4: one unanimous decision pit bulls. I got three best dogs 1909 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 4: on the planet. They're loving, they're loyal as fuck, but 1910 01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,160 Speaker 4: they will take you down if you cross the line. 1911 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:27,519 Speaker 4: And that's the thing with them. My big guy, he's 1912 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 4: an actually he's two pit bulls in. 1913 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,320 Speaker 3: One, but is he knows like an XL. 1914 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 4: He's an XL bully, So he's a pit and an 1915 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:41,640 Speaker 4: American bulldog kit mixes. Yeah. So yeah. The thing with 1916 01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:46,639 Speaker 4: pitts bro like they're super loyal, but they're big babies 1917 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, Like if they love you, 1918 01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,800 Speaker 4: they're gonna just lay out like they act like they're 1919 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 4: a human in the house. And uh, every time I 1920 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 4: come home, there's the response is always the same. So 1921 01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,160 Speaker 4: I respect their consistency. I expect that they got the 1922 01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,080 Speaker 4: grit and they they're dangerous enough where people, you know, 1923 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 4: have a little bit of fear when they try to 1924 01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:07,680 Speaker 4: cross the line, but they'll always be there for you. 1925 01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 10: So big shout out to pipples all around the world. 1926 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:22,920 Speaker 10: Gritty Yes, I love that JP boo Yeah, dominant from 1927 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 10: JP Mitch tough Alpha. 1928 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:28,880 Speaker 2: Just speaking of dude, I wish the camera can catch that. 1929 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 4: Look at that man. You sure rob this place and 1930 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:37,559 Speaker 4: come here, dirt, dirt, dirt here, all right, here he comes. 1931 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,360 Speaker 4: That was the most Dan Campbell for answers I've ever 1932 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:45,280 Speaker 4: heard of my life. Yeah, grit, tough, chevy t. 1933 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,160 Speaker 3: Should you said, Dan Campbell, We. 1934 01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:59,200 Speaker 2: Could have said, all right, my tier talk bro. He 1935 01:23:59,280 --> 01:23:59,920 Speaker 2: just walks loud. 1936 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,639 Speaker 4: He's heavy. 1937 01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:07,599 Speaker 2: Yeah. All three of my tiers are pitbulls. Okay, let's 1938 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:10,760 Speaker 2: see by tier three. I grew up on a ranch 1939 01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,680 Speaker 2: in Arizona. Every cowboy had this dog, and it was 1940 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 2: the Blue Healer. Those dogs would work cows, they'd work 1941 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 2: with horses, they'd work with sheep. They do the job 1942 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 2: that needed to get done. The reason why they're not 1943 01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 2: higher on my list is because they are rambunctious, energetic, 1944 01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,679 Speaker 2: and if they're not trained properly. They will absolutely ankle 1945 01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,680 Speaker 2: by any visitor at all times. I love the way 1946 01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,400 Speaker 2: they look, I love the way they get after it, 1947 01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:37,960 Speaker 2: and they're hard working, just like the Chevy Silverado. And 1948 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 2: that's why they must be in my list. That that 1949 01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:41,360 Speaker 2: is my tier three. 1950 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 4: Taylor, I want to cut you off, but those blue 1951 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,639 Speaker 4: heelers look very similar to like German shepherds, but they're 1952 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:52,599 Speaker 4: kind of smaller right, completely getting the business. They're shorter haired. 1953 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,160 Speaker 2: It's hard to explain, like any movie you've seen with 1954 01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 2: a cowboy. Yeah, extremely smart and we'll go all day 1955 01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,240 Speaker 2: like they will go and work all day for you. 1956 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:05,840 Speaker 2: But if you want to own one, you got to 1957 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 2: like you gotta have some wide open spaces from the run. 1958 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:09,479 Speaker 4: My tier two. 1959 01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:12,600 Speaker 2: This dog would have never made my list until I 1960 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 2: met my wife. She has this dog. I think I 1961 01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 2: didn't know what to think about. I thought they were 1962 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,240 Speaker 2: beautiful and majestic. I thought seeing her like up in 1963 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,760 Speaker 2: the mountains with the snow, I'm like, Wow, what a 1964 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,040 Speaker 2: beautiful dog. But I don't think I'll ever own this one. 1965 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,639 Speaker 2: This dog is going to be the husky, Siberian husky. 1966 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 2: They shed like shit. But my wife's dog Akira does 1967 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,080 Speaker 2: getting pets from hers like pickles on a sandwich. She'll 1968 01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 2: take them or leave them, it doesn't really matter to her. 1969 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 2: She hangs out, she does her things. She's the most 1970 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,679 Speaker 2: low maintenance dog in the world. And it's completely changed 1971 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:45,880 Speaker 2: my views on huskies. I think they're an incredible species 1972 01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,679 Speaker 2: of animal, extremely smart and very vocal. And my tier 1973 01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:59,200 Speaker 2: one goes out too, the greatest dog you could possibly get. 1974 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,320 Speaker 2: When you go down to a humane society and you 1975 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 2: look around those little crates and gates and you see 1976 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,439 Speaker 2: dogs staring at you, it's not just one type of dog. 1977 01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,200 Speaker 2: It's a whole bunch of types of dogs. And when 1978 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,639 Speaker 2: you take a cocktail combination of animals and you put 1979 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,720 Speaker 2: them together, most of the time you're gonna get the 1980 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 2: best combo possible. So my tier one is the mutt, 1981 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 2: the mix of all those animals you put them together. 1982 01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 2: They look funny most of the time, they are funny 1983 01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,840 Speaker 2: most of the time, and they usually have the best personalities. 1984 01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,599 Speaker 2: So the mutt, those pound puppies are my tier one. 1985 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:45,640 Speaker 4: Sure unique. 1986 01:26:47,720 --> 01:27:02,719 Speaker 7: Politically political, Yeah. 1987 01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:03,559 Speaker 4: Own the number one. 1988 01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:09,080 Speaker 2: The gods here, why not. 1989 01:27:11,160 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 4: In there? I had him in there? 1990 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:15,240 Speaker 2: But he's right, that's why I got a little up 1991 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 2: in arms as I thought, Damn, I'm gonna get I 1992 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 2: don't think I'm ready to take this right now. I'm 1993 01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:21,960 Speaker 2: not ready to take these hands on the internet. But 1994 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:25,680 Speaker 2: I do love the Chihuahua. I think the chiuala is 1995 01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:28,200 Speaker 2: fucking hilarious. When I was a little kid and I 1996 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 2: would see the taiaro top of bell dogs ripping around 1997 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,559 Speaker 2: the little short haired brown cos I would say to myself, someday, 1998 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have this dog and I would have little 1999 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,639 Speaker 2: matching outfits, gonna be cool little glasses, little chill boys 2000 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,639 Speaker 2: hanging out. Now, I have a stipulation for these dogs 2001 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:44,960 Speaker 2: that I'm going to get. Some day. I will own 2002 01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 2: a chiuaba someday. I have to make sure that I got. 2003 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,400 Speaker 2: This has got to be anomaly of uava. It can't 2004 01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 2: bark and it can't bite. Other than that, dude, they're 2005 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:57,400 Speaker 2: chill boys and they're outstanding. Maybe you should boy's gonna 2006 01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:57,920 Speaker 2: have a muscle. 2007 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:04,120 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna stereotype, but every Chua I've met is 2008 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 4: the meanest fucking dog I've ever met. 2009 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:09,800 Speaker 2: Number two and dog attacks Chua is the breaking number 2010 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,800 Speaker 2: two amongst all dogs and attacks. 2011 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 4: Wow, that's you want to do your one word no, no, 2012 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 4: If you were gonna have chiuaa, I was gonna have 2013 01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:22,280 Speaker 4: a high maintenance. 2014 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:34,479 Speaker 2: This sus I know who I am. Anyways, Yeah, well, 2015 01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:35,400 Speaker 2: boys and girls, that is. 2016 01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 3: When I went to end the episode. Yeah, shout out 2017 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,320 Speaker 3: to what we got for Maxie. 2018 01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,400 Speaker 5: I don't think so were you guys listened throughout the 2019 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:43,800 Speaker 5: episode and was intrigued to get a question out or 2020 01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 5: go any further into anything. He was saying, Mitch loves ball, 2021 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 5: So I'm kind of looking at me, and I feel 2022 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,519 Speaker 5: like he's like, was getting a boner over of there 2023 01:28:51,520 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 5: listening you talk about fucking work, ethic and ship. Our 2024 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 5: ESPN reporter Mitch wants to know what Davante Adams brings 2025 01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:11,720 Speaker 5: to a team. 2026 01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 4: Davante Adams the thing with him, like I've been you know, 2027 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 4: you were you were there with the whole ab saga. 2028 01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:24,559 Speaker 4: Well you you came after it was that same year. 2029 01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,360 Speaker 4: It was that same year. So that was the first 2030 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,839 Speaker 4: Superstar receiver I ever dealt with. So I'm like, okay, 2031 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,920 Speaker 4: this is you know, you hear their divas there, so 2032 01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:37,320 Speaker 4: I got to experience that whole thing. So my first 2033 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,680 Speaker 4: like initial thought was like Okay, I've heard nothing but 2034 01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,120 Speaker 4: good things about Davante, like just from the outside world, 2035 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,920 Speaker 4: Like you don't hear him talking like I'm the best 2036 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,479 Speaker 4: blah blah blah, Like on the outside he's not. He's 2037 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,960 Speaker 4: never been that guy. So when he was coming, I 2038 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,640 Speaker 4: was kind of I didn't know what to expect. I 2039 01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 4: didn't know if he was you know what he was 2040 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 4: like whatever, get another a yeah, like it maybe another 2041 01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,280 Speaker 4: fucking diva, Like that's not the guy you want in 2042 01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 4: the locker room, regardless. And the day he came in there, bro, 2043 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,519 Speaker 4: Like when I talk about everything I talked about like 2044 01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:08,519 Speaker 4: a teammate, you want to dude who fucking practices the 2045 01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,840 Speaker 4: right way, fucking trains the right way every single day. 2046 01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,439 Speaker 4: He's that guy, bro. And he's one of the most 2047 01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:18,800 Speaker 4: humble dudes, but extremely confident at the same time. He's 2048 01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 4: not arrogant, he's not that, but he knows who he is, 2049 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,360 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And that's the level of 2050 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 4: confidence that a lot of guys can't get to. Because 2051 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:28,840 Speaker 4: when you talk about Devontae Adams Emilia, oh, he's best 2052 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 4: step in the league. Like he's always in that conversation. 2053 01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,919 Speaker 4: So he's just a great teammate. Bro, and he's awesome, 2054 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 4: like just being around him. I fucking love Davante like 2055 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,240 Speaker 4: he I don't know, I don't know how to explain it. Bro, 2056 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,280 Speaker 4: He's unique. He's super fucking smart. Like he's just a 2057 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 4: different type of dude. And you could tell, like there's 2058 01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,479 Speaker 4: a reason why he's different, you know what I mean, 2059 01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,719 Speaker 4: just the way he plays. Bro, he has no fear, 2060 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,120 Speaker 4: he knows he's the guy, and like he loves football. 2061 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,599 Speaker 4: And that's that's really all you can say about him. Bro, 2062 01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 4: He's I can go on and on, but he's a 2063 01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,640 Speaker 4: he's a great teammate. BRO. Love him to death. And 2064 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 4: I've only known him for a year. Bro, I fucking 2065 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,519 Speaker 4: I talked to him all the time. Like it's not 2066 01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,760 Speaker 4: like you know in most locker rooms, like sometimes you 2067 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,840 Speaker 4: just talk to your d line guys and stuff like that. 2068 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 4: Like Devanta is one of those guys. Like he's one 2069 01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,519 Speaker 4: of my one of the best teammates on the team. 2070 01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:14,679 Speaker 4: I talked to him all the time. He's a captain. 2071 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:18,880 Speaker 4: He's just h Yeah, he's a total package. Yeah, he's 2072 01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:20,320 Speaker 4: a stuff. Bro. I love that dude. 2073 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:30,800 Speaker 2: He's a stud. Good question, good work. Oh yeah, we're 2074 01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:31,759 Speaker 2: always looking to improve. 2075 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:40,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, improved. Yeah yeah. 2076 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 3: If you can hear that in the background right now, 2077 01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,000 Speaker 3: Dirk is chugging. 2078 01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:46,799 Speaker 4: Yes, he's getting after it, dude. 2079 01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 2: On that. I totally forgot about the Apes as a rookie. 2080 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 2: What was that experience like for you? 2081 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 3: Was it as bad as it was wild? 2082 01:31:57,040 --> 01:31:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, Like I don't know how to explain it. 2083 01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,640 Speaker 4: So when I when I first came in Boom, I 2084 01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 4: got jibted by the Raiders. We signed like we had 2085 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:13,599 Speaker 4: signed ab Ritchie Vontes, berfect, like we like every big 2086 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,200 Speaker 4: like you think about the craziest motherfucker. They were all 2087 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,560 Speaker 4: on our team. So I didn't know what to expect. 2088 01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:22,760 Speaker 4: The AB shit, Like Ab is a person. Like if 2089 01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:25,080 Speaker 4: you if Ab sat here with us right now and 2090 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 4: you genuinely like, it's just us in the room, no cameras, nothing, 2091 01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,160 Speaker 4: you would love a B. He would love AB. You'd 2092 01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:32,759 Speaker 4: be like, he's down the earth. He's a great dude. 2093 01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:35,000 Speaker 4: But the second he left the building, bro, you didn't 2094 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:36,840 Speaker 4: know what the fuck was about to happen. It was 2095 01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:39,679 Speaker 4: every day bro. He would go, what's up, man, Hey man, 2096 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,360 Speaker 4: what up man? Eastern Michigan blah blah blah. I played 2097 01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,320 Speaker 4: you know you played at Central, Like that was like 2098 01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,000 Speaker 4: my end with him. That's a rookie. I'm like, oh, 2099 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,800 Speaker 4: be cool with that motherfucker. And so we're cool. But 2100 01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,040 Speaker 4: like you would go home and all of a sudden, 2101 01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:55,120 Speaker 4: there's something on Instagram and then like as a shit 2102 01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,280 Speaker 4: started getting crazy because he came in he burned his 2103 01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 4: feet off and then he had the helmet shit. So 2104 01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,880 Speaker 4: he was never practicing. He never was around the off season. 2105 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:04,280 Speaker 4: We're like, what the fuck is going on? He would 2106 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,240 Speaker 4: show up here and there, but like and when you 2107 01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,120 Speaker 4: be with like a camera crew and ship, like, oh, 2108 01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,000 Speaker 4: he would bring a posse with him everywhere in. 2109 01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:12,879 Speaker 3: The facility. 2110 01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:14,640 Speaker 5: It was not a it was kind of like a 2111 01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:16,840 Speaker 5: high schoolish like you had some aisles, but not a 2112 01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,799 Speaker 5: lot of room in the in the locker. 2113 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 4: Room, bro, Like he had his own posse. So it 2114 01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:22,679 Speaker 4: was like in the weight room he had his own 2115 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 4: trainers come. So it was just a lot, bro. But 2116 01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,559 Speaker 4: you would never, like if you just sat there like 2117 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,720 Speaker 4: he can he really is, Like he's not. I don't 2118 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,439 Speaker 4: I don't know. He's got he's got his own ship. 2119 01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:36,519 Speaker 4: He's got to deal with you know what I mean. 2120 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:37,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of ship that's going on. But like 2121 01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,200 Speaker 4: my experience one on one with him outside of the media, 2122 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,519 Speaker 4: outside of that ship, like he was cool as fuck, 2123 01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:45,880 Speaker 4: but I don't know, he's got a lot of shit 2124 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:49,280 Speaker 4: going on. But like Vontes, like Vante, you would think 2125 01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,960 Speaker 4: about Vonte's birth, You're like, oh my god, that's a 2126 01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,920 Speaker 4: fucking murderer. Right, he is the fucking coolest dude, bro, 2127 01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 4: Like coolest ship. He came right up to me. Was 2128 01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 4: like at first, I was terrifle. I'm like, okay, this 2129 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,320 Speaker 4: Vonte perfect. That's a bad motherfucker. Like yeah, I'm you know, 2130 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to earn that respect. Like I didn't 2131 01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 4: even know how to talk to him. At first. He 2132 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 4: was cool as shit, great leader, like great dude in 2133 01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,320 Speaker 4: the locker room, like everyone fucked with him, and he 2134 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,639 Speaker 4: was a real leader. He was dope. And then Richie's 2135 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,559 Speaker 4: the same thing, Like obviously Richie's had his shit too, 2136 01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,000 Speaker 4: like he's gone through a lot of shit, but Richie's 2137 01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,479 Speaker 4: a fucking great teammate. So yeah, my whole experience with everybody, 2138 01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,080 Speaker 4: like he would think from the outside it was like 2139 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,200 Speaker 4: oh my god, but like inside the building, like ab 2140 01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,200 Speaker 4: was gone before the season like we're just waiting, like 2141 01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,639 Speaker 4: we're like, okay, is Abe even gonna play? Like there 2142 01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 4: was something after There's just always something, And then he 2143 01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:42,280 Speaker 4: leaked like Gruden's call on the fucking Instagram. Bro. Literally 2144 01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:44,360 Speaker 4: after he came up and talked to the whole team. 2145 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,200 Speaker 4: He came up, Bro, all the captains went up there. 2146 01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:49,479 Speaker 4: Ab walked up on the stage. He apologized. We're like 2147 01:34:49,479 --> 01:34:52,960 Speaker 4: all right, bet so we're like okay, he's about to play, 2148 01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,000 Speaker 4: Like fuck yeah, AB's on board now, so everyone's excited. Bro. 2149 01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 4: That night he posted the shit with Gruden and how 2150 01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:05,600 Speaker 4: you know what is fucking wild. The same day, me 2151 01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 4: and Clear take like what literally just talking. 2152 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,120 Speaker 3: About this ship. He's like I'm doing with the games man. 2153 01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,120 Speaker 4: I apologize and was like, oh fuck it, bro, like 2154 01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 4: we get it, Like everybody goes through shiit, so like 2155 01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 4: I'm that's from my personal bro. I always give people 2156 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:21,920 Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt. So like I it's a 2157 01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 4: b bro, Like fuck it, He's going through his ship, 2158 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,080 Speaker 4: but like he wants to play everything seen one hundred 2159 01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:29,360 Speaker 4: percent genuine boom boom boom. Literally that night he puts 2160 01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:33,240 Speaker 4: on Instagram like the whole Grooden ship every and just 2161 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,160 Speaker 4: like I'm like, what And then by the next morning 2162 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 4: he was cut be and clear in the building. Mayo's 2163 01:35:39,439 --> 01:35:42,400 Speaker 4: walking up through the hallway with a smile because may 2164 01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,000 Speaker 4: I had to deal with all the ship and may 2165 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,000 Speaker 4: I really wanted him to be a part of it. Gruden, 2166 01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:48,200 Speaker 4: they fucking they wanted to love him, but like there 2167 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:49,439 Speaker 4: was more to it, you know what I mean. He 2168 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,000 Speaker 4: was going I don't know what he was going through, 2169 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,280 Speaker 4: but like, and I pray for dudes like that. I 2170 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 4: don't know what he's going, what's got, what he's got 2171 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,320 Speaker 4: going on upstairs, Like it's tough. But yeah, like people 2172 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:00,880 Speaker 4: were like it was like brought the fresh air, bro. 2173 01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 4: It was something every single day, and he was supposed 2174 01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 4: to be our franchise guy, Like we're bringing a b 2175 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,479 Speaker 4: to fucking lass Babs like the best bro, the best. 2176 01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,360 Speaker 4: He was so fu cold. I'm like, he's my team bro, 2177 01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:13,320 Speaker 4: he's the coldest. 2178 01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:14,920 Speaker 5: And they said, like when he's out on the Price 2179 01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:18,360 Speaker 5: Beld like that motherfucker is running all day long, running 2180 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 5: I'm trying to do extra after Like it's just it 2181 01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:23,439 Speaker 5: seems just seems like a bizarre. 2182 01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,760 Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like was there ever a weird 2183 01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:29,679 Speaker 4: dynamic between Vonte' and a B not at all really 2184 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:36,960 Speaker 4: boys because he executed go to It's like a hit. 2185 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,439 Speaker 4: That's what people say, Yeah, like, oh he got CT 2186 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,639 Speaker 4: from that. You know everyone, That's what they're saying, like, yeah, yeah, everybody. 2187 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:44,760 Speaker 4: They must sucking up, bro when they came in the 2188 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 4: fucking locker room. But everybody was. Everybody was cool as 2189 01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:50,240 Speaker 4: ship like Vontez and him were boy like. It was no, 2190 01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,920 Speaker 4: there was no friction at all. Richie and Ab were 2191 01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,759 Speaker 4: boys like it was when we were all just together 2192 01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,760 Speaker 4: as boy like, as teammates. There was no issues. But 2193 01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:00,320 Speaker 4: it's just there was a bunch of ship going on 2194 01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:03,719 Speaker 4: and the outside and it's just you look back, you're like, damn, 2195 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:07,840 Speaker 4: what if. But you never know. It's crazy. But like 2196 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,160 Speaker 4: we've had a B. We kind of had a B 2197 01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,639 Speaker 4: and now we have Devanta, Like we've had some guys 2198 01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 4: come in. It's just some cats, crazy, some dudes. 2199 01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,439 Speaker 3: Dude, We appreciate you, man. This has been fucking phenomenal. 2200 01:37:19,479 --> 01:37:20,919 Speaker 2: It has been a phenomenal episode. 2201 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:22,920 Speaker 4: Yes, I've had a blast. I'm glad you guys got 2202 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:26,920 Speaker 4: to come to the crib, meet the dogs, the whole shabam. 2203 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,519 Speaker 2: It was amazing. 2204 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:34,639 Speaker 4: Some wing stops, some pizza, yeah, wings stop, water, the boys, 2205 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 4: you know, intimidating. 2206 01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:39,160 Speaker 2: Pulling up and seeing what you got sitting outside. 2207 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:39,360 Speaker 4: You like that. 2208 01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nice, it was all It seemed like 2209 01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:43,479 Speaker 2: it was perfectly for that. 2210 01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 5: He's like, all the boys are coming. Hold on, that's 2211 01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,000 Speaker 5: perfect an episode of MTV crib Bro. 2212 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 3: It really was. Yeah, you've earned it and you're wearing 2213 01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,760 Speaker 3: the chain. Look at the wrists, both of. 2214 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:00,599 Speaker 4: Them something something. 2215 01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:02,719 Speaker 2: How many are you going to you to do a 2216 01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:04,599 Speaker 2: full bodysuit tattoo? What are we talking about here? 2217 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,360 Speaker 4: I want to get my chest, my upper back, and 2218 01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,559 Speaker 4: my like, I want to get my whole like Torso done. 2219 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 4: This off season. Oh yeah, my guy is moving to Vegas. 2220 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,960 Speaker 4: He's from Boston, so, like I usually only get to 2221 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:17,880 Speaker 4: see him like once an off season and we just 2222 01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:20,439 Speaker 4: knocked ship out. But he's moving here in March, so 2223 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,639 Speaker 4: we might get some uh some action. 2224 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:23,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, get it right. 2225 01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to get like you you got all 2226 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:26,640 Speaker 4: types of ship. We're covered up a little bit. 2227 01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:27,720 Speaker 2: I guess I got work to do still. 2228 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just work out there. Yeah. My legs, my legs, 2229 01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 4: I haven't even got back to him. 2230 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,479 Speaker 3: You have to see his chest. He's got a cool 2231 01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 3: little dog there. 2232 01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm starting to get I'm starting to have most 2233 01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 2: of my torso done. I needed there's a couple of 2234 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,160 Speaker 2: pieces right here by my whole back done. I need 2235 01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:45,439 Speaker 2: to get like a couple of places. It's not important, 2236 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:46,320 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna get it. 2237 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. 2238 01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,040 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big. 2239 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:52,800 Speaker 4: Hello. Well, thank you so much. 2240 01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:57,519 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, please like subscribe, unsubscribed, resubscribe. Hit that merch. 2241 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,000 Speaker 2: If you're looking for the Budweiser, can't get it any more. 2242 01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 2: It's overboughts. 2243 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,760 Speaker 3: So that's like, yeah, that's the only thing. 2244 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,800 Speaker 5: As you're saying, you're like, yeah, by the time this 2245 01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:07,960 Speaker 5: comes out, it's gonna be overwheling. 2246 01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:10,200 Speaker 2: No, no, that last time I did a couple of 2247 01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:13,960 Speaker 2: days ago, I didn't. Yeah, but big hugs, tiny kisses,