Speaker 1: We're just too unapologetically black women with an opinion who
Speaker 1: talked back. We're back, Welcome to a new episode that
Speaker 1: we talked back. It's your girl a j. It's Tam Bam, y'all,
Speaker 1: and I want to sing for y'all today because we
Speaker 1: got a nigga who can sing on the show. You
Speaker 1: know that Miss Charlene woke up this morning found in
Speaker 1: the letter that she wrote, Dick is too hard to
Speaker 1: swat you know how you ever? Anthony Hamilton said it. Listen,
Speaker 1: we have Anthony Hamilton, y'all, a whole life living legend,
Speaker 1: and he is talking back with us. What's your favorite? Uh,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hamilton's song, Tim, that's your favorite song? Absolutely? When
Speaker 1: I saw Daddy's Little Girls and he just was in
Speaker 1: the bid with that wife being on all hurt over
Speaker 1: Gabriel Union and I was playing, I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: I want you just to act like that about me,
Speaker 1: and I love that song. My all time favorite Anthony
Speaker 1: Hamilton song is off of his second album, um never
Speaker 1: Love Again and go like never love fucking I know
Speaker 1: I don't go like that after your broke me down.
Speaker 1: It's high to trust the feeling you love. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: don't get what you do in my face turned up,
Speaker 1: I could say, smell something sting, I could sing in
Speaker 1: real life and look and look, I got allergies right now.
Speaker 1: Must be bitch, because let Anthony do it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask him to sing it. My best friend with see
Speaker 1: if you do this show, Anthony. I know I've only
Speaker 1: known you for about thirty minutes now, but my best
Speaker 1: friend winning for me. Thank you? All right, y'all tune
Speaker 1: in for Anthony Hamilton's like the head head goes whoo
Speaker 1: whoo hey, Hey, this is we talked back. I'm Tim
Speaker 1: Bam and this is a j and we got a
Speaker 1: super special guest today, superstar Anthony Hamilton's with us today.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us, Thank you all for having me. Man,
Speaker 1: are you one of my favorite artists all time? Favorite? Alright,
Speaker 1: you appreciate. So how do we address you? Are we
Speaker 1: calling you Mr? Aquarius because I don't look you sign
Speaker 1: up to Hamilton's what we call you today? You know
Speaker 1: Anthony is good? It's simple, okay. Yeah, So Anthony, I
Speaker 1: need to tell you a story. We're gonna start with
Speaker 1: my story, all right. I met you in a club
Speaker 1: and like two thousand sixteen, We were in a V
Speaker 1: I P Section and I was drunk as fun and
Speaker 1: I was like sing Sharleen to me, Anthony, and you
Speaker 1: sang a little bit of it to me, and then
Speaker 1: I started to go into this story about why I
Speaker 1: moved to Charlotte and how me and my nigga at
Speaker 1: the time, but we broke up. By that time, we
Speaker 1: were living in London, and we went to the O
Speaker 1: two Arena to see you in concert, and we got
Speaker 1: in a fight because I wasn't next to him when
Speaker 1: Charlene was on. We got a whole fight. If you
Speaker 1: fight at an Anthony Hamilton's concert, you really got some problems.
Speaker 1: Like you toxic, toxic, It's real toxic. And I even
Speaker 1: hung on I gotta show you this because it was
Speaker 1: like I was telling you the story about it and
Speaker 1: he was looking at me like this because I probably
Speaker 1: I probably wasn't caught up to your drunk that yet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know when you when you so somebody else just
Speaker 1: like it's not fun. But I'm gonna stay there with
Speaker 1: you though I ain't gonna I ain't gonna go both.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you. I'm listening to you. You
Speaker 1: you you was like, girl, get out my face. That's
Speaker 1: how you was looking like. I don't hear it, but
Speaker 1: I just want to show you this. This is me
Speaker 1: and you in the club that night so much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to send me that on I Well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna send it to you. Wow. Tam Bam and a
Speaker 1: Jah so coming from where I'm from and ain't nobody worrying.
Speaker 1: That's my two favorite albums and I still listen to
Speaker 1: those albums like it came out yesterday. Okay, thank you?
Speaker 1: So um, we did see your last single, not the
Speaker 1: most recent one. You had another song come out with
Speaker 1: last month, I mean last year, Jamika Mallory. Yeah, Mercy
Speaker 1: that come about. Mercy was a song that it spoke
Speaker 1: to the to the to the black man at that
Speaker 1: moment who was going through a lot, who had endured
Speaker 1: a lot and just needed a little time to to
Speaker 1: be loved on and for people to have mercy on him,
Speaker 1: because we endure a lot and not the fact that
Speaker 1: you know, you feel weak. You just need a moment
Speaker 1: and you need to be loved on and and poured into.
Speaker 1: And we chose to make it because she was the
Speaker 1: voice of the black woman that really gave a damn
Speaker 1: about black Man m It was fitting to half of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, it really is a beautiful, powerful song
Speaker 1: and uh, I know it hasn't found the home, you know,
Speaker 1: his way into the homes of a lot of people
Speaker 1: because there's a lot going on, But it will get
Speaker 1: will resurface again. Yeah. I just listened to it for
Speaker 1: the first time last ning. The most powerful piece was
Speaker 1: you know, the whole song is good and went to
Speaker 1: Mika Mallory. He said, I'm not your enemy, but I'm
Speaker 1: your energy. Yeah. Yeah, it just sets the tone like
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of times when someone wants to
Speaker 1: love on you, you know, ego gets in the way,
Speaker 1: and you know you don't know how to take it.
Speaker 1: You don't know how to receive it at a certain
Speaker 1: levels of your life. Until you get out of the way,
Speaker 1: you don't you don't notice that she's your energy, right
Speaker 1: you know, now you got this new single out, you
Speaker 1: made a fool of me. Now I feel like this
Speaker 1: song is good because you're giving Lenny Williams energy and
Speaker 1: this song like but has made it okay for you
Speaker 1: not to know what the heck to say, right Uh,
Speaker 1: And it's all right because that's but it was a
Speaker 1: little triggering for me. Now let me tell you why,
Speaker 1: because I took my mind back to that time fight
Speaker 1: and the O two arena, listening to Charlene and in
Speaker 1: that song you say you'll promise you'll be there to
Speaker 1: the very end to protect you and love you, to
Speaker 1: be with you for life. Now in this song. Nowhearing
Speaker 1: that song, do you say, bitch until you do what
Speaker 1: I'm doing to you? You know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: wearing that song, I hear that in Charlene not nowhere
Speaker 1: now And this you made a fool of Me song.
Speaker 1: You're saying you're never gonna take her back? Now, that
Speaker 1: was two thousand four. You you she was what she
Speaker 1: said a thousand times. She's been asking you to get
Speaker 1: your ship together, yea, and now here it is one
Speaker 1: you're talking about. You ain't never gonna take her back.
Speaker 1: Got her dragging her Louis Vauton out the out the mansion.
Speaker 1: I was mad she drug it out to you. Pretty.
Speaker 1: She didn't drag it out with no pain. No, she
Speaker 1: did not know. She was like, she was like, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get right. Well. Oftentimes when a woman steps
Speaker 1: out there a lot of times they already be ready
Speaker 1: to go right. Yeah, I'm just telling you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, and and a lot of times we'll be
Speaker 1: ready for y'all to ago. Period. Now that's exactly she's
Speaker 1: running my pressure. You don't cook girl friends always in
Speaker 1: here with all that blue and hand make up all
Speaker 1: over the place. Excuse me, why are you talking about
Speaker 1: me like that? I don't understand you are talking about you,
Speaker 1: but my ex is and aquaries I know about y'all.
Speaker 1: You can't tell me nothing about an aquaries. We like
Speaker 1: our face. We can be a little moodies, needs space
Speaker 1: to reboot, but we're good people. We love people. When
Speaker 1: we're out, we're out, But when I'm in, I'm in introverted.
Speaker 1: So do you think it's a general consistent that men?
Speaker 1: All right? So a woman will take you back a
Speaker 1: thousand times, but a man will be hurt one time
Speaker 1: and be like, I'll never take you back. So unfair
Speaker 1: y'all expect the woman to you even had the song?
Speaker 1: What does it pray for me? Yeah? Somebody need to
Speaker 1: pray for me because I need my woman back out
Speaker 1: of did wrong against you that proped me and my ship? Again? Lord,
Speaker 1: somebody to pray for me now here you are talking
Speaker 1: about I never take you back. It's I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: we speak in the heat of the moment. We speak
Speaker 1: in the heat of the pain. Um and uh, you
Speaker 1: know a man when when a man has heard it hit,
Speaker 1: hit different and cut different. Why though, why don't women
Speaker 1: get the same type of men get? I think women
Speaker 1: have more You guys are Wow, we're human. You're definitely human.
Speaker 1: But women, I don't know, you have a higher capacity
Speaker 1: to to to tolerate bullshit. Yeah, you shouldn't have to deal.
Speaker 1: You know that. The way you guys are built different.
Speaker 1: You guys are stronger in so many ways emotionally then
Speaker 1: most like we like the average heartbreak for a man,
Speaker 1: it's devastating. It's like I want to Yeah, y'all used
Speaker 1: to break in the hearts, so when your heart get broken,
Speaker 1: it's like everybody, Yeah, everybody gotta die. Yeah, way, Like
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm dead, so I might as well
Speaker 1: going to this lay under this board, this board ever
Speaker 1: just gonna just gonna So I see on Instagram, like
Speaker 1: Shirley has an Instagram page, y'all had a video conversation together.
Speaker 1: So there's some realness to this story. Like, help me
Speaker 1: understand that? Or is it built on it? Is it
Speaker 1: built off a real story, a real situation or yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely the song came from a real, real place. And
Speaker 1: U and even Charline now like I hadn't seen it
Speaker 1: in a long, long long time, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: was like, where are you being? I've been looking for you?
Speaker 1: But what's going on? Um? And this you know a
Speaker 1: founder and she's now with children and things going on
Speaker 1: in their life. And I was kind of shocked. Wait,
Speaker 1: which which to your old lady or something back then?
Speaker 1: She was no, actually okay, but the real person was. Oh.
Speaker 1: But it was just some similarities like wow, because you know,
Speaker 1: you know when you when you you look for people,
Speaker 1: he said, I don't wonder what happened to him? What
Speaker 1: you know that It's like, wow, I didn't expect that.
Speaker 1: You didn't expect her by now? Well I did. But
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you see people when you see their
Speaker 1: lives go on a certain way, you see them, you know,
Speaker 1: you see them eye on Instagram or Facebook or somewhere.
Speaker 1: This person was totally gone, no trace. So it was like,
Speaker 1: whatever happened, what happened? You know? This person is got
Speaker 1: a real, real life life. Thank thank thanks, going on, like,
Speaker 1: so when is the album coming out? Album? Will be
Speaker 1: released in h August? Working on it? Yeah, in the
Speaker 1: studio now we're working on it, finish it. I'll go
Speaker 1: back in with j D to finish up on something,
Speaker 1: some of my finishing touches and to write a few
Speaker 1: more songs. So now you sign it? So so deafer
Speaker 1: is this year? I read that this would be your
Speaker 1: first in the album. No, I'm signed to my Music Box,
Speaker 1: which is my label through BMG being j D. Just
Speaker 1: have a great working relationship and we're pretty close, good friends.
Speaker 1: And the time to work and bring out a project,
Speaker 1: you want to go with people who get it, who
Speaker 1: who know music, who knows the temperament of music today
Speaker 1: and understand where I was when I when I had
Speaker 1: that very impactful effect on the people when I when
Speaker 1: I came into it. So he gets both. He's current
Speaker 1: and he's also you know, old school j D O.
Speaker 1: He has Yeah, he keeps us, he has a post
Speaker 1: and each each um he's generation. And so now how
Speaker 1: important is ownership to you? Because you know what this means,
Speaker 1: your your first indie album, and everybody's on ownership now,
Speaker 1: especially since Nipsey Hustle, Nipsey hustle, um, um past and
Speaker 1: you know all his videos and started stuff started coming out.
Speaker 1: So you have younger guys now wanting to make sure
Speaker 1: they own their intellectual property. How important is that for you?
Speaker 1: It's been very important, know you just some days you
Speaker 1: sometimes you have to pay pay your dudes to get
Speaker 1: to a place of ownership. Um. When when you don't
Speaker 1: really know, you don't know how to structure that. Coming
Speaker 1: in as a new artist, you don't have as much
Speaker 1: to say. So when you're proven you can be successful
Speaker 1: and that you you know you're worthy of of. You
Speaker 1: know hearing me out, you know it's a worthy conversation
Speaker 1: because I'm valuable. I proved myself to be valuable. So
Speaker 1: there's some negotiations. Um, that's gonna have to take place
Speaker 1: to to be in the Anthony Hamilton business. Um. And
Speaker 1: I proved myself to be lucal. Uh, there's a high
Speaker 1: demand for me. So when you have that, and it's
Speaker 1: a blessing, Um, you have you have more leverage and
Speaker 1: the ownership means you you have control, that's power in it,
Speaker 1: and there's a legacy that you can pass on, pass
Speaker 1: it down to your children, your family, and ultimately it's
Speaker 1: your it's your it's your story that can be told
Speaker 1: however you wanted to be told. Absolutely. With the new
Speaker 1: album coming out, are you gonna go on tour? And
Speaker 1: what are you? Are you gonna get vaccinated? What's your
Speaker 1: feelings about touring after Corona? Well during Corona because it's
Speaker 1: not over, but you know, yeah, I'm gonna tour. I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: I'm a tour when it's health. Um, I had COVID.
Speaker 1: I was in the hospital two weeks in December throughout
Speaker 1: the top of January, and uh, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not vaccinated yet. Um. And I'm kind of against vascinations.
Speaker 1: I've never had taken really a lot of them. Mm
Speaker 1: hmm um. Like it was years and years and I
Speaker 1: had to go to Africa some years ago, so you know,
Speaker 1: those back vaccines. But now I don't know, just kind
Speaker 1: of you know, leary of Yeah, I'm worried about it too.
Speaker 1: Like some days I feel like I wanted to get
Speaker 1: the vaccination, and some days I think about how they
Speaker 1: tested black people with Syphilist experiments and uh, Henrietta Lax
Speaker 1: and how they took her DNA for all these different testing,
Speaker 1: and it just makes me scared, like we're all for
Speaker 1: the government and it all happened so fast, and never
Speaker 1: mind the fact that it's not FDA approved in that
Speaker 1: you know that pimental right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
Speaker 1: and anytime you have to mandate something and make it
Speaker 1: mandatory to have um to be able to do something else,
Speaker 1: to have freedom, then that part bothers me a lot,
Speaker 1: you know, like so why you know why so much pressure? Right?
Speaker 1: And then now so now they no longer have the
Speaker 1: mass mandate or like the large gathering mandates in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: So how are you going to determine who has the
Speaker 1: vaccination and who doesn't? Are people vaccinated go in the
Speaker 1: dark or something they may, you know, like going to
Speaker 1: different places like I just did when I did the
Speaker 1: video a lot of videos I've done the Grammys when
Speaker 1: we perform with the baby. You got tested every day
Speaker 1: before rehearsal Um, I tested everybody on my video set,
Speaker 1: and that way you have a piece of mind. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna kind of be hard to just
Speaker 1: set up testing before you go to the grocery store,
Speaker 1: testing before you do this testing, you know, so let's
Speaker 1: not be a way. Maybe you get up I don't know,
Speaker 1: some kind of certificate or something like you said that
Speaker 1: chip gonna stop lighting up in their head at a
Speaker 1: bit of you don't make fake certificates. That's all that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I would be selling down there. They go ahead,
Speaker 1: a little oozy BT diamond in their head gone. I
Speaker 1: saw a video, a video online where people have been
Speaker 1: putting magnets on the injection spot and it's been sticking.
Speaker 1: So my mom, that's what I haven't I haven't tested
Speaker 1: it out yet. I'm gonna do it on my parents
Speaker 1: because both of them, well, my mom is completely vaccinated.
Speaker 1: What you looking for across? What are you looking for across?
Speaker 1: And something? A pistol to shoot the zombies in their head?
Speaker 1: What I got a sage belt I'm about to put
Speaker 1: on hold on Before we get into anything else, Let's
Speaker 1: pay some bills real quick, all right. So we have
Speaker 1: a segment on our show called Dumb Bitch Stories, right
Speaker 1: or SIMP series, where we tell a story. We have
Speaker 1: any but you're gonna we want your critique on the
Speaker 1: story that we do. You have a same story. Every
Speaker 1: man has a simse story where once or twice. They
Speaker 1: may have been played by a woman, so you never
Speaker 1: been played by Yeah, you got a song made a
Speaker 1: fool of me, So yeah, I'm gonna yeah. I was
Speaker 1: in love with this girl named Dana. I won't give
Speaker 1: a last name. Beautiful, beautiful girl. Uh bad, this is
Speaker 1: the first time I light lighter skin like y'all, A
Speaker 1: little lighter brown girl, girl looking little right, had that
Speaker 1: light heating different, a little bit on the higher golden
Speaker 1: side round like. She was like, uh, a little short
Speaker 1: built the thing, and I just liked a lot, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know I had I don't think. She's probably one
Speaker 1: of the prettiest girls that had ever had a crush on.
Speaker 1: So she was like, well, my cousin was dating her
Speaker 1: when her friend she said, well, we're gonna be over
Speaker 1: at such a such house. On't you come over to
Speaker 1: the party and we can hang out, you know, something
Speaker 1: like sixteen sixteen seventeen. I walked. It probably took me
Speaker 1: about maybe almost two hours an hour and a half
Speaker 1: two hours to walk there, so you were staying by
Speaker 1: the time you got So no, No, I don't never.
Speaker 1: I don't have to, you know, I don't old. I
Speaker 1: ain't want to always I don't want to claim brother
Speaker 1: a sixteen ye old boy. I know you were smelling
Speaker 1: number one extra onions. Cut it out. No no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no no. I don't smell like taffold water, dog water,
Speaker 1: none of that salty. Uh. But I walked and I
Speaker 1: was so looking forward to it. She was there and
Speaker 1: she kept smiling, and we didn't really say too much.
Speaker 1: But by the time we all were in this one room,
Speaker 1: I guess it was about to be I don't know
Speaker 1: what he was about to do to a toadst something.
Speaker 1: She came and it got named. Ernest was my friend's
Speaker 1: girlfriends uncle. She sat on his lap. Was older dudes
Speaker 1: in college. We were in high school. She suddenly his laugh.
Speaker 1: She just kind of looked at me and smiled at
Speaker 1: me like it just like, damn, how was fool? I know,
Speaker 1: walk two hours and you man, my little hard was broke, broke, broke, broke.
Speaker 1: I've seen her after that, you know, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: she trying to sit in your lap when she saw you.
Speaker 1: After that. No, you didn't get no love, No, I
Speaker 1: ain't man. You know, for a minute, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: you're dirty, I said, you did meet dirty? Dirty? You
Speaker 1: know what you were supposed to do, like good bad advice.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you were supposed to smash her ass and never
Speaker 1: call her back. She couldn't get done this good good
Speaker 1: You heard about it though. Yeah, all right, so we
Speaker 1: did get a simple story from a young guy on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Young man. All right, so it says Hi, So we
Speaker 1: need your advice. We would like to give him give
Speaker 1: people advice when they're sending these stories. Right, So it
Speaker 1: says Hi. I'm a twenty nine year old average looking
Speaker 1: uh mechanical engineer born and raised in Houston, Texas. I
Speaker 1: spent most of my entire adult life getting my education,
Speaker 1: and I do pretty well financially. I dated here and there,
Speaker 1: but I've never really had a steady relationship with the
Speaker 1: woman I'm currently seeing this woman, it's been about a year.
Speaker 1: She's beautiful, but the only hang up is that she
Speaker 1: has a four year old son and me. I don't
Speaker 1: have any kids. The other thing is the kid's dad
Speaker 1: just got out of prison, and I feel like he's
Speaker 1: now completely to act to in their in their lives.
Speaker 1: He puts quotes in their lives, meaning she and her
Speaker 1: son are with this guy more than I'm comfortable with
Speaker 1: to say they are no longer together. Recently, she was
Speaker 1: laid off and I've been helping her financially. We were
Speaker 1: FaceTime in the other night a little past ten pm
Speaker 1: when I heard her doorbell rang and she abruptly hung up.
Speaker 1: I tried call him back, but she didn't answer. The
Speaker 1: next the next day, she called like nothing happened. I
Speaker 1: kind of pressed her about the night before, and she
Speaker 1: immediately got defensive, saying it was her child's father and
Speaker 1: that she didn't owe me an explanation as an explanation
Speaker 1: as to why he was there. I like her, and
Speaker 1: I kind of feel invested since I've been helping her.
Speaker 1: Do you think I should cut my losses and move
Speaker 1: on or respect that she has to have some form
Speaker 1: of relationship with her ex for the sake of their child. Sincerely,
Speaker 1: feeling kind of simplesh Gold saying you may have me
Speaker 1: real quick. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, those are quick. Those
Speaker 1: are signs like she's she's not willing to step up
Speaker 1: and and to let the father know that this active
Speaker 1: relationship is special to her. He's now dictating, you know
Speaker 1: how this woman is treating it um so now, boyfriend,
Speaker 1: and she's starting to maybe catch feelings for old prison boy.
Speaker 1: You know he had none in a minute, probably coming
Speaker 1: back with that, you know that, yeah, yeah, popping off.
Speaker 1: She's probably starting to think about that. Oh my biges,
Speaker 1: my child's son is here and I'm a father's here
Speaker 1: and we're kindling some old things. UM. Definitely that's something
Speaker 1: going on. If when you hang up, I've been there
Speaker 1: knowing I ain't supposed to be where I'm at, hang
Speaker 1: up the phone real fast because uh, they don't need
Speaker 1: to hear this, and you don't need to hear it either. UM.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, when you say I don't owe
Speaker 1: you're an explanation, that's saying that I'm here, I can
Speaker 1: do whatever I want to do. I don't respect you. UM.
Speaker 1: And you know you don't have no you don't have
Speaker 1: no say over here. So he probably needs to to
Speaker 1: pull back like money doesn't need money doesn't equate to
Speaker 1: anything other than just money. UM, when you're talking about investing,
Speaker 1: you have your feelings and you know and you're safety.
Speaker 1: You don't know if this guy somebody who what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you? What are you going for? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Just even that mentality he may think,
Speaker 1: you know, since he's been gone. She may have been
Speaker 1: telling him like I ain't been saying about it's me
Speaker 1: and little Travis, you know, So you don't know what
Speaker 1: dynamics they they they have, and you don't know what
Speaker 1: she's been telling him. And the fact that she's flipping
Speaker 1: on him. That that hard. He must have an um,
Speaker 1: he must he must feel that she hasn't been doing
Speaker 1: anything and she's been waiting on him, or he stands
Speaker 1: a chance and she noticed other guy. He's soft enough
Speaker 1: to to stay around longer. And he's still paying bills.
Speaker 1: So even the baby daddy doesn't have a key because
Speaker 1: he did ring the doorbell right, true, but he probably
Speaker 1: got one by now. And look, you probably on house
Speaker 1: arrest at another address in his MoMA name. Uh. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: he may want to pull back on that one for sure,
Speaker 1: just just for even safety reasons, like there's no need
Speaker 1: to be getting into a fight. I mean, let him,
Speaker 1: let him have his family, that's his little family. If
Speaker 1: she wants that's what she wants, then so be it.
Speaker 1: He'll find somebody else who will appreciate him. Man, it'll
Speaker 1: be safer. You can go lay down at night, um
Speaker 1: without you know, still till me over your head with
Speaker 1: with a baseball bat or customer, you know. And it
Speaker 1: sounds like the only reason why he kind of wants
Speaker 1: to stay in the situation is because he feels like
Speaker 1: he's getting Yeah, you get more money. Is it worth
Speaker 1: it though? Is it worse? I don't care how much
Speaker 1: I don't faid if it's time to go with Stamar.
Speaker 1: Those are real mature answers. Those are mature answers. I
Speaker 1: feel like, fight for your girl, bro, fighting if it's
Speaker 1: worth it, though, But if she's not fighting, if she's
Speaker 1: fighting against you, then what chance do you have. She
Speaker 1: just wanted a little piece of prison wood and now
Speaker 1: she's back. Come on, That's all I'm just saying. But
Speaker 1: you know she's gonna want it. He might have left
Speaker 1: some information out of it, like maybe he's been pressing her,
Speaker 1: like you know, what's she's like, Yeah, he just stopped
Speaker 1: by that just drop something off and her hanging up. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. Certain certain hours for certain things. Then
Speaker 1: you can come in the daytime when the lights on
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, or me and my me and
Speaker 1: my baby, me and my boyfriend are here. Uh, if
Speaker 1: you want to stop by and drop it off. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but not hang phone, don't answer when I called back.
Speaker 1: Oh do you get you know? You getting himed up?
Speaker 1: And I know him on your mind, but it don't
Speaker 1: matter because you're still getting himmed up. And here I
Speaker 1: am laying here, can't sleep and I gotta go to
Speaker 1: work tomorrow to pay your bills. Sure so dumb, you
Speaker 1: are really dub for real. So now it's dating and
Speaker 1: being in a relationship the same thing. Because he said
Speaker 1: they're dating, I feel like, what's the what's the Are
Speaker 1: you dating exclusively? If you're dating exclusive? Are you dating
Speaker 1: in the hopes of this becoming a real thing? Are
Speaker 1: we dating because we only want to be with each other?
Speaker 1: Like dating could be a little tricky with dating that means, okay,
Speaker 1: we get together, we go out on date, or we
Speaker 1: have movies. Oh we you know we pol pola. Uh.
Speaker 1: It just depends on what what what you guys? What
Speaker 1: do you expect expectations? Do you think that's a conversation
Speaker 1: that needs to be had, Like should a man say
Speaker 1: I want to date you exclusively before a woman should
Speaker 1: start being exclusive to him? Because I just got like
Speaker 1: a dude just dropped me recently because I went out
Speaker 1: on a date with someone else and he was like,
Speaker 1: I thought we were dating exclusively, And I was like,
Speaker 1: you never asked me to be exclusive. I think we
Speaker 1: know when the person expect for it to be exclusive,
Speaker 1: But if you don't say not, not no. But sometimes
Speaker 1: people just want to Like dating for me has been
Speaker 1: like that, like everybody want to just let me. I
Speaker 1: want to own it. Mm hmm, just me and you not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not ready for that. Yeah you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And when I am gonna be great
Speaker 1: at it. Um, but you can't pressure me into it.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't trick me into it either, right,
Speaker 1: Like like we never we all decided, Okay, we both decided,
Speaker 1: let's go out and have drinks. You know. It's those
Speaker 1: silent conversations like sleeping together, sleeping like we exclusively us,
Speaker 1: you know, spending all day every day together. How about
Speaker 1: starting business together? All that that's that's really really I mean,
Speaker 1: let's see you you can do all that stuff with
Speaker 1: a man, and then when he get caught with someone else,
Speaker 1: we will never said we were exclusive. We never and
Speaker 1: that I've been here, I think. But on both sides,
Speaker 1: he needs a woman needs to you need to speak
Speaker 1: up about what you really want and what you expect
Speaker 1: from me, and I need to let you know what
Speaker 1: I expect from you and what I can give um
Speaker 1: and and vice versa. I think that should be a
Speaker 1: clear understanding before going into it, because it's it's nothing
Speaker 1: like dating someone and you you know, you spend time
Speaker 1: together dating or whatever you call it, and you get
Speaker 1: to a place and it feels like the the prison,
Speaker 1: the seal, like, ah, I didn't I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was this, I didn't know. We never had this conversation.
Speaker 1: And that could be a cop outweigh you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? It is you know that if you if
Speaker 1: you're treating like you you here and you guys have
Speaker 1: been intimate, you spending all this time and you're talking
Speaker 1: about you're talking a certain way. It's one conversation when
Speaker 1: you're laying down on that good pillar, and then it's
Speaker 1: another one. You you know, right, you come, you come
Speaker 1: to your sensors. You're right, right, no pun intended, right. UM.
Speaker 1: I think it's a clear understand, clear understanding and through
Speaker 1: the conversation. Definitely, it's important because I don't want to
Speaker 1: get to a certain level and I'm thinking that. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not exclusive without dating, but you're expecting certain things
Speaker 1: from me. That's if we are um on both sides.
Speaker 1: That could be a little tricky. It could be I mean,
Speaker 1: it can hurt your feelings. Mm hmm. It's a shock
Speaker 1: to to you. Um, but you shouldn't assume just because
Speaker 1: we're being intimate and we're spending this time and all that,
Speaker 1: you can't assume. You have to have that conversation or
Speaker 1: somebody's feelings gonna get hurt. Right, So, after you have
Speaker 1: the conversation, the guy said, well, we're not exclusive. I
Speaker 1: don't care if we've been going on trips, this and
Speaker 1: the third then you started dating somebody else, and now
Speaker 1: it's a shock to him that you're looking for somebody
Speaker 1: now who's going to give you what you're looking for. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what he deserves. I mean, I mean, if you can't,
Speaker 1: if you can't give up what you need and then
Speaker 1: then she's gonna go find it, and vice versas, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to lose it to the better man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like no, I want to want to be you want
Speaker 1: now that Tony want to be exclusive? Tony just got
Speaker 1: out all we've got his time and all He's made
Speaker 1: his time. So yeah, yeah, totally doing Tony that chilling
Speaker 1: all up. He want to be exclusive and Tony look
Speaker 1: a little bit better than you. Now you want to fight,
Speaker 1: But now you want to fight for the exclusivity. Not
Speaker 1: good to look. Before we move on to the next segment,
Speaker 1: let's have a word from our sponsors. Do you have
Speaker 1: a new single line up? You know, I'm in the
Speaker 1: studio working. I'm in the studio right now, just working
Speaker 1: on finishing the album, getting the art work together. Um,
Speaker 1: putting the final touches to the story and making sure
Speaker 1: that this bulletproof. I don't want you to be aby
Speaker 1: skip not one song. Some of the features that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have, I want them to be special. I wanted
Speaker 1: to make sense. Um. I don't want to get features
Speaker 1: without it sounding like a mix tape, right. You know?
Speaker 1: I saw on Charlene the Charlene Instagram is like, you
Speaker 1: don't know my side of the story. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: hear Charlene's side. Definitely gonna hear, Like, yeah, I'm about
Speaker 1: let it all out. I'm not always I'm not always
Speaker 1: the one. It's not always my fault. It's your fault.
Speaker 1: It's always your fault. Dam bam, damn, dam bam. You
Speaker 1: can just cut it out, hey, j won't you get
Speaker 1: your people? She had a control half the time. I
Speaker 1: can't control. I cant up, sweetheart. So yeah, I'm working
Speaker 1: on finishing that. And uh, I can't wait for you
Speaker 1: guys to hear. We can't wait for it either. My
Speaker 1: favorite song, all time favorite is never Love Again, and
Speaker 1: that would have been my favorite. You know what, that
Speaker 1: song was so dear to my heart, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: even go into the booth to sing that. That's something
Speaker 1: that right on the outside of the studio where the engineers. Wow,
Speaker 1: I had Mike there, so that was just I never
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not going in there. I need
Speaker 1: to hear this coming out the speaker as I'm singing
Speaker 1: it comes. This is how I feel. That's a good song,
Speaker 1: like I want to hear. Every man needs to hear that. Listen.
Speaker 1: I sent it to my X last night because I
Speaker 1: was listening to it. I sent it right on to
Speaker 1: him so he can get in his feelings. You gonna
Speaker 1: sleep like I was even so good over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's put this on your heart, right you don't get
Speaker 1: no risk. That's that's black you. You made some of
Speaker 1: the most beautiful love music and very emotional and passionate.
Speaker 1: Are you single, are you dating someone? What is your status?
Speaker 1: I am single. I am single. I've dated. I was
Speaker 1: married for ten years, amazing woman. We have three, three
Speaker 1: beautiful children, um almost nine year old and the twins
Speaker 1: about to be eleven and older. Three boys. But since then,
Speaker 1: I've been updated. I've met some amazing women. I've dated
Speaker 1: some amazing women. But I just wasn't ready. I wasn't
Speaker 1: ready for that. I'm getting there. I think being alone, um,
Speaker 1: not only just being alone, but just my personality. I
Speaker 1: like a lot of space. I like a lot of
Speaker 1: me time and a lot of it. May not need
Speaker 1: to be with somebody or be doing anything. I just
Speaker 1: like to be left alone sometimes, and I think that's
Speaker 1: good and a bad. If you get too comfortable with that,
Speaker 1: then you'll never allow somebody in your space enough to
Speaker 1: to become become comfortable with that vulnerable. Yeah. So I'm
Speaker 1: working on me to get to that place where I'd
Speaker 1: be like, all, you know what, I can see you
Speaker 1: more than two days back to back for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's like I can't do it. I can't. Like I'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you're going home, and they could be
Speaker 1: really good people, but I'm like, I just want to
Speaker 1: be left alone relationship. I mean, I know how to cook, clean,
Speaker 1: I do laundry, so do everything so you don't see
Speaker 1: yourself being married again or you don't. Of course I will. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do it, do it. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it while I'm still young and tims got I still
Speaker 1: got that good love taple. You know, look, ain't nothing
Speaker 1: worse than you know. You want to stop sailing down
Speaker 1: when you ain't got nothing to give, and that's usually
Speaker 1: what y'all do. Though, five I'm gonna be on five click.
Speaker 1: I'm coming to it with some fat. That's what my
Speaker 1: mom says. That men don't settle down to their pencil
Speaker 1: doesn't write anymore. You tell your mama that you need
Speaker 1: to go go to TV Jake's right now and tell
Speaker 1: her what you just said. Now, my pens are gonna
Speaker 1: be right when you're diet is so important to like
Speaker 1: died and exercise like because you're clogging up that artery.
Speaker 1: M hm. That thing is food. You know, you gotta
Speaker 1: here to make sure it work. Clean your clean, your
Speaker 1: arteries out, man clean, keep your blood pressure down, and
Speaker 1: keep just take good. And mentally, you gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: clear everything out because it ain't done worse than you're
Speaker 1: trying to think about some bull and then you're trying
Speaker 1: to have energy to go to that thing and taking
Speaker 1: it into Yeah, somebody gonna not get that. You're gonna
Speaker 1: get it all in the right place. So you have
Speaker 1: to be good to have a good, well balanced, healthy
Speaker 1: life and lifestyle and somebody who you really truly attracted to,
Speaker 1: right yeah, right, that's so important. Like you can't make
Speaker 1: something work that there's no there's no fitting parts. Finding
Speaker 1: someone attractive is the easy part. It's like liking them
Speaker 1: for a long and mean attractive, not just physically. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about just just everything physical that's physical like that.
Speaker 1: You know, eventually you get used to seeing them, So
Speaker 1: whether they're pretty or not, it doesn't matter because I'm
Speaker 1: you're used to them, but you still want to feel
Speaker 1: that they're a beautiful person, you know, just through and through,
Speaker 1: and you want to always feel like, you know what,
Speaker 1: no matter if you gain thirty pounds or lose twenty,
Speaker 1: you're still my sweet tender things and tell your argument
Speaker 1: shot up, bitch, you don't know. I don't never speak
Speaker 1: to women like that, no matter how I just I
Speaker 1: just don't. I just you can't. You can't take that back. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been one of the abusive to
Speaker 1: women like that. It's so crazy because I call bitches
Speaker 1: bitches all the time. But if I hear a man
Speaker 1: say it, I'm like, yeah, so you're setting the tone.
Speaker 1: You let them know it's okay. No, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: That's not okay for you to say. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like the N word, you know, it's a similar dynamic,
Speaker 1: like I can say it the N word and t
Speaker 1: B word. I'm doing it. I'm doing I'm living in
Speaker 1: my truth and that we respect that whatever. But when
Speaker 1: Thomas Earl called you that o're talking to Thomas Earl,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to nobody named Thomas Earle. Mama, I'm from
Speaker 1: the country, So Mama, Thomas Earl said, can you come
Speaker 1: out and can come to the dope for a minute.
Speaker 1: Toma zero, not there with those shoes all with a
Speaker 1: convertible read it outfit. I come out here for you
Speaker 1: your mom, owing the money or something you're gonna pay
Speaker 1: that money. He's gonna pay with that, honey. I'm in
Speaker 1: a buying time, is earl. Now you said you're gonna
Speaker 1: get my money. Now I'm in a bad time of earl.
Speaker 1: I need to speak to you. I need that money now,
Speaker 1: come on, now, I need things toss eally thing. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, all right, we're gonna get into that real quick.
Speaker 1: I know it's off topic, but Jada tore up that
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollar check after she already worked for it,
Speaker 1: and I just as the worst part of that movie.
Speaker 1: It was worse. And her brother didn't killed was worse
Speaker 1: than all that. Exactly. I would get killed when the
Speaker 1: brother got killed. I cried like this. I was like,
Speaker 1: but when she took when she ripped up that check,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, man, I didn't do that, but
Speaker 1: I was the price money. Didn't do not until your man,
Speaker 1: you paid the price for that. Oh my goodness. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on and talking to you. Good.
Speaker 1: We love having you. When the album is done, we
Speaker 1: would love for you to come back. I'm coming back, good, good,
Speaker 1: good good coming back. Thank you. You're gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of good crab leagus down there. We do blue
Speaker 1: crabs in Charleston. The blue crab. Yeah, that's a little
Speaker 1: flattened with the ball. You gotta bust the belly off
Speaker 1: at all. Yeah. And if you can't eat crabs, you
Speaker 1: can't pick them yourself. You gotta get the hell away
Speaker 1: from the crab table. Nobody cleaning crabs. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't mess with them, because I had a bad experience.
Speaker 1: What did that call that little that little part of
Speaker 1: to not supposed to that that man, man that the
Speaker 1: boo boo tastes good? Yeah, that ship is good. Well, well,
Speaker 1: when I'm down, I'm gonna hit you up. I want
Speaker 1: my blue crab. Come on, man, we can do a
Speaker 1: crab crack on the porch. Yeah, we can do it. No,
Speaker 1: I look forward to doing that again, y'all fun? All right,
Speaker 1: that was fun. We should have asked him to, I know,
Speaker 1: I about to say we didn't even ask him to thing.
Speaker 1: He probably would charge our mother fucking as though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love me too. Yes, he's like at the top
Speaker 1: of my list a favorite um because such a soulful boys.
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, based on the song, I feel like
Speaker 1: there's gonna what he did say, It's gonna be a reply.
Speaker 1: So I can't wait to hear what Charlene as is
Speaker 1: gonna say bad. Yes, so maybe how they'll put the
Speaker 1: album together. Maybe it's gonna be like all a different
Speaker 1: little heartbreaks and all this ship that went on with
Speaker 1: him and Charlene with that eighteen years, staying eighteen years,
Speaker 1: you're gonna fall in and out of love with hell yeah,
Speaker 1: hell yeah. I keep trying to tell people, man, being
Speaker 1: in love is just a state of mind. If you
Speaker 1: are continuously doing ship to not stay in love, you're
Speaker 1: gonna fall out of love. It's a real thing. So
Speaker 1: every day you gotta do to keep falling. But the
Speaker 1: crazy part is you can fall out of love with
Speaker 1: someone and then fall back in love with them. You can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that sounds good. And I guess people who be married
Speaker 1: for like fifty years, they've been in and out love
Speaker 1: a hundred times. I don't know now, because I'll talk
Speaker 1: to some people and maybe, like my parents ain't like
Speaker 1: each other since the nineties, they don't even sleep in
Speaker 1: the same room exactly. But maybe that's how companions should
Speaker 1: changes when you're old, Like it's no longer very intimate,
Speaker 1: like physically intimate, but the intimacy is in different ways. Man,
Speaker 1: I want to like my partner forever, because liking and
Speaker 1: loving is two different things, because you can love somebody
Speaker 1: I like them, but you can't like someone and I
Speaker 1: love them. So I just want to be and like
Speaker 1: what my husband when my man forever, I want to
Speaker 1: be in both like him and look, I still want
Speaker 1: my own bedroom though, and bathroom. These niggas be nasty,
Speaker 1: maybe have a dodo in their pants. Man, nigger have
Speaker 1: a T shirt and short You're going to bathroom in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night behind and they give you
Speaker 1: want to You're gonna slip and slide. Yeah, he's gonna
Speaker 1: slip and slide some by the toilet. I just can't
Speaker 1: take it now. My daddy is a clean man, so
Speaker 1: I mean I like cleaning. I never had to deal
Speaker 1: with that for real. Out of a man. I actually
Speaker 1: was in a relationship, but I don't remember being so
Speaker 1: my dad wasn't there as a teenager. But when we
Speaker 1: were kids, we weren't allowed to go in their bathroom
Speaker 1: at all, so I wouldn't know it because me all
Speaker 1: they draw her looking through looking for them, looking for them,
Speaker 1: Damn pouring tapes they had My mom used to be like,
Speaker 1: that is not how real people act. Why am I
Speaker 1: acting like that now? And then I don't understand why
Speaker 1: he was lying on something that's not That's not how
Speaker 1: you act, mom, That's how she acted. I really don't
Speaker 1: think so. And she got sleeping fat sleeping on Miss Charlene.
Speaker 1: You're sleeping on miss Charlie. You might have stopped around ninety,
Speaker 1: but she was doing it. Yeah, yeah, I might have
Speaker 1: stopped it. My mama had me like thirty one. She
Speaker 1: probably that. Man, these niggas, don't you know? My mama
Speaker 1: told me that her mama told me I wasn't into
Speaker 1: her marriage. Damn, damn, that's the truth for your there.
Speaker 1: You had to give it to her raw like this
Speaker 1: that she did me. Girl. But anyway we come back. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I don't but I don't know. My mama
Speaker 1: loved me. She told me. She was sitting in a
Speaker 1: borsher clinic though, and one day she didn't got me
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. She was like, I almost aborted my baby.
Speaker 1: You was almost Aborceana. How you married getting a bortion? Aborceana?
Speaker 1: Like that's what you should have named me right now?
Speaker 1: I would fight her. That's what my name was, I
Speaker 1: would definitely be changing my damn name. Hold on, let
Speaker 1: me google. I bet you somebody name Aborceana. Girl. Why
Speaker 1: is that so fun? Girl? And the whole song on
Speaker 1: YouTube by somebody named destiny wit w h E t
Speaker 1: abortion Ana, I want to play it? Released this year
Speaker 1: Destney wit I got the prey extra hard tonight for
Speaker 1: my soul. Girl, I want to listen to that song.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to that. And like we're about to
Speaker 1: do a little free advertising, y'all go check out destiny
Speaker 1: wits aboa released and she standing on top of the
Speaker 1: car like this going to that bitch going to hell
Speaker 1: her and her damn mama, not me. My mama kept me.
Speaker 1: You're laughing too hard, girl, A lot of us probably
Speaker 1: was about to be aborted. You made it, man, You're
Speaker 1: supposed to be here. You ain't past the chi made it.
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