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Speaker 1: in a little bit as well. Speaking of the NBA,
Speaker 1: normally when a team signs a player to a contract
Speaker 1: in the two hundred million dollars ballpark, there's a reason
Speaker 1: for the fan base to be a little nervous. But
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody in the Dallas organization or that
Speaker 1: fan base has any questions about the MAV's decision to
Speaker 1: give Luca five years at just over two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's the supermax rookie extension. Keep in mind he's twenty two.
Speaker 1: This is why players want to get into the league.
Speaker 1: They might not be ready. They want to get in,
Speaker 1: eat up that rookie contract, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you get that new deal. But this is a supermax
Speaker 1: rookie extension because he's First team All NBA twice. Therefore
Speaker 1: he was eligible for a supermax twenty two years of age.
Speaker 1: Now the question is, as we move forward, can they
Speaker 1: win a championship with the ball dominant guard? Is he
Speaker 1: James Harden? Is he Russell Westbrook? And you have to
Speaker 1: have the right team around him. And I think that's
Speaker 1: what's going to be curious because he almost took the
Speaker 1: Slovenian national team to the gold medal game. And Luca's
Speaker 1: got everything you want, the full arsenal. He's too big
Speaker 1: to cover, he's too fast for big eyes to handle.
Speaker 1: Great passer, great rebounder. He can get better at the
Speaker 1: free throw line. I just think he should be a
Speaker 1: knockdown eighty percent free throw shooter. But the MAVs have
Speaker 1: him under contract neck they can focus on building a
Speaker 1: more competitive team. And that's tricky because with some players
Speaker 1: Lebron needed Anthony Davis, they weren't going to compete on
Speaker 1: the floor for anything other than touches, and Lebron was
Speaker 1: smart enough to know that's the future. I gotta make
Speaker 1: sure Anthony Davis dominates. If he dominates, then I win
Speaker 1: as well. And he was led the league and assist.
Speaker 1: But with Lucas a little bit different. He's got the ball,
Speaker 1: he does score, he does rebound, he does pass. But
Speaker 1: to get the pieces around him and they know what
Speaker 1: their roles are going to be. That's tricky because I
Speaker 1: don't think Kris stop Sportzingis makes any sense for Dallas,
Speaker 1: but you have him under contract. Are you going to
Speaker 1: be able to trade him? Who wants Kris stop Sportzingis,
Speaker 1: Tim Hardaway Junior makes sense. They have some pieces there
Speaker 1: that makes sense. But as far as getting a free agent,
Speaker 1: they missed out on Kyle Lowry. I believe that they
Speaker 1: were second to the Miami Heat. But you gotta get
Speaker 1: some players who fit Luca, and I think that's going
Speaker 1: to be the tricky part with Jason Kidd. If you're
Speaker 1: a free agent, do you want to play with Luca.
Speaker 1: I know he does have a lot of assists, but
Speaker 1: he has the ball all the time and I think
Speaker 1: that'll be very interesting to see it. That's the tricky
Speaker 1: part with all of this. Does he play differently with
Speaker 1: Jason kidd Is his new head coach? And can you
Speaker 1: can you make any deal? They didn't make any deals
Speaker 1: here in the offseason, but as you move forward, how
Speaker 1: long are you going to have Christop Sporzingis? And can
Speaker 1: you make any roster moves there? We'll talk to wos
Speaker 1: about that if you How do you exactly build a
Speaker 1: winner around Luca? Eight seven seven three d P Show
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Speaker 1: are you thinking about? Mcleven? Okay, this is a group
Speaker 1: effort over here. The most valuable athlete twenty five and under,
Speaker 1: and we say twenty five and under bees Patrick mahomes
Speaker 1: is twenty five. Who do we put on the poll
Speaker 1: Luca twenty two, Mahomes twenty five, Zion twenty one valuable. Okay, baseball,
Speaker 1: the name that jumped out was Fernando Tatis Junior twenty two.
Speaker 1: Here of these three hundred something million anybody else for
Speaker 1: leaving off of any quarterbacks like a Josh Allen or
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson or Justin Herbert, any other baseball players Juan Soto,
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum in the NBA's twenty three. Feels like there's
Speaker 1: a class. The guys we named Luca, Mahomes, Zion and
Speaker 1: Tatis might be a class ahead of everybody else. Okay,
Speaker 1: but how are we equating value? Good question? We didn't
Speaker 1: We didn't get that thought out. Well. I mean it's
Speaker 1: I guess it's a user defines value, Like what's value?
Speaker 1: Like that's a good question, Like how valuable is I in?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's a good debate. He's got
Speaker 1: to sell a lot of tickets, but will he win
Speaker 1: in championship? Yeah? Pull yeah? How relevant does it make
Speaker 1: your franchise? How competitive to make your franchise? Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: has made the Jaguars relevant again, hasn't made them good yet,
Speaker 1: but they he was the biggest prospect in the past
Speaker 1: ten years. Yeah, I would put Trevor Lawrence in there.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good one, just based on potential
Speaker 1: with his age that you know, he's one of those
Speaker 1: once every ten fifteen years type quarterback we talk about
Speaker 1: generational quarterback. Well, I guess the question is who would
Speaker 1: you hand a four hundred million dollars contract too. Who
Speaker 1: would you feel most comfortable in any sport to make
Speaker 1: like a huge, huge investment. Well, they already did it
Speaker 1: with Mahomes and they have sort of done that with
Speaker 1: Luca m Tatiss. How already got paid. Yeah, he's already
Speaker 1: gotten paid. So they're they're already locking these players up
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Speaker 1: can only watch one NFL preseason, which starts in Earnest
Speaker 1: this week, NBA Summer League, or I'm gonna say the
Speaker 1: rest of the MLB regular season. I know that sounds
Speaker 1: totally unfair, but we all know the NFL preseason will
Speaker 1: outrate the MLB regular season. I would say NBA Summer League.
Speaker 1: You've picked that over NFL. Yeah, I might, because I've
Speaker 1: I've been watching quite a bit of it. I was
Speaker 1: watching last night. I wanted to see this Davion Mitchell,
Speaker 1: the kid out of Baylor. He didn't disappoint. He's you
Speaker 1: know when your nickname is off night, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have an off night when he guards you. I love
Speaker 1: that nickname. He was tremendous last night. Jalen Suggs was
Speaker 1: awesome last night. Now, I know it's Summer League. I
Speaker 1: know it. I have to tell myself. I have to
Speaker 1: remind myself. And then I'm watching Desmond Baine of the
Speaker 1: Grizzlies last night. He's lighting up the night. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I did watch a little too much Summer League basketball
Speaker 1: last night. But it was fun because you're gonna see
Speaker 1: somebody out of this group is going to make a
Speaker 1: really big impact. Now, Jalen Suggs with Orlando should and
Speaker 1: probably Battlecade cunning him for a Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed it just seeing some of these
Speaker 1: guys that you only saw a little bit in college
Speaker 1: and now you're seeing them and they're going against fellow
Speaker 1: rookies for the most part here. But it's good, it's entertaining.
Speaker 1: Carmelo Anthony had a press conference as he's now a
Speaker 1: new member of the Lakers, and he talked about joining
Speaker 1: Lebron on the team. There's been a lot of opportunities
Speaker 1: or well, I guess a lot of speculation that you
Speaker 1: and Lebron might one day play together on the same team.
Speaker 1: What made now the right time to team up with
Speaker 1: the Lakers? Time? And is everything? I mean, for years,
Speaker 1: we've always laughed about it and spoke about it, what
Speaker 1: it would be like. We had a little bit of
Speaker 1: framies with with the USA basketball and playing together, but
Speaker 1: that's you know that that's totally different in the situation
Speaker 1: like this. But we've always talked about it, laughed and
Speaker 1: joke about it. But I thought, and then he thought,
Speaker 1: at this moment, now you know, everything comes back full
Speaker 1: circle for us, and I think the time is now
Speaker 1: for us to be on the same team. You know,
Speaker 1: it couldn't have came at at a better time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder why Lebron didn't pull the trigger on getting
Speaker 1: Carmelo a couple of years ago, because we thought about that.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, nobody wants Carmelo, and I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe the Knicks bringing back and you have that farewell
Speaker 1: tour and then all of a sudden, he's playing meaningful
Speaker 1: minutes with Portland. He's scoring, and he's had this resurgence,
Speaker 1: and I always wondered, like, why didn't Lebron go after him? Then? Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: because wasn't there a minute where Carmelo was out of
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, and then yeah, he sort of had
Speaker 1: this rebirth in Portland, but it didn't feel like he
Speaker 1: had many good minutes left for a while. Phil, Like
Speaker 1: after Houston he was sort of floating and I kept thinking,
Speaker 1: is he done? And you know, because he's limited in
Speaker 1: what he can do, but he can still score. And
Speaker 1: I think he proved a lot of people wrong, including myself,
Speaker 1: with what he did in Portland. Yeah. Point, I heard
Speaker 1: one of the shows on I Feel like Klea See
Speaker 1: talking about how people being very critical to the Lakers roster.
Speaker 1: Don't you find this roster to be really like diverse
Speaker 1: and they've got younger guys, they've got a lot of
Speaker 1: older experience. It they feel deep, they feel like they
Speaker 1: got a roster that can protect their stars from burning
Speaker 1: up so many minutes. Yeah, but I mean this is
Speaker 1: what we do. We criticize, you know, or you might compliment.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people are bothered by it that
Speaker 1: people are being analytical when they look at the roster, like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what like they made moves, they made some aggressive moves.
Speaker 1: They brought in some younger players. You know, do I
Speaker 1: love having Marcus Saul No, But if you have minutes
Speaker 1: and he knows what he's supposed to do and he
Speaker 1: compliments White Howard, then Gray. This comes down to can
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis stay healthy? That's it? Because I know Lebron
Speaker 1: Will and Russell Westbrook will. If Anthony Davis is healthy,
Speaker 1: then they have every right to think they're going to
Speaker 1: play for a championship. The other players like like that, boy,
Speaker 1: what did you say about us? Or what are people
Speaker 1: saying about us? I don't know this roster, but you
Speaker 1: guys should win the West, like, that's not a bad
Speaker 1: consolation prize when it comes to hey, you're being critical
Speaker 1: and I don't know why Lebron got upset or you know,
Speaker 1: at least tweeted out since deleted his tweet about you know, hey,
Speaker 1: just remember what you're saying here. I like the roster
Speaker 1: last year, and you see what happened with that team.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I thought, okay, Harold Shrewder, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we got it. I think we got better here. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it's like, no, you didn't,
Speaker 1: and now this team do. I love Russell Westbrook not
Speaker 1: on that team, but if you're it may work, and
Speaker 1: if it does, great, But I didn't go. Let me
Speaker 1: be the contrarian and just rip Lebron's lineup here. My
Speaker 1: job is to just analyze it one way or another,
Speaker 1: like is it good? Are they better? How much better
Speaker 1: did they get? Are they done? You know? That's why
Speaker 1: I wanted to have woe John? Can they do anything
Speaker 1: else here? But as it is now, that's the team
Speaker 1: to beat in the West, not the Clippers, not the Nuggets,
Speaker 1: not the Jazz, not the Phoenix Suns. That is the
Speaker 1: team to beat because you have Lebron, you have ad
Speaker 1: and you have Russell Westbrook, and it might be there
Speaker 1: are teams that are built for the regular season. There
Speaker 1: are teams that are built for the postseason. You know.
Speaker 1: That's what Greg Popovitch would always get his team ready
Speaker 1: for the postseason. He didn't care about the regular season.
Speaker 1: When he got into the postseason. That's when he wanted
Speaker 1: to put his best team as healthiest team, and that's
Speaker 1: where he was going to outcoach you, Bill Belichick. He's
Speaker 1: got teams, you know that have been good in the
Speaker 1: regular season, great in the regular season, but he's all
Speaker 1: about the postseason. Who's going to match up with us?
Speaker 1: Where are we playing like that? Those are the things
Speaker 1: that are really important for the coaches, the teams that
Speaker 1: are playing for championships. Is the Laker team built for
Speaker 1: a seven game series? If you said that Laker team
Speaker 1: against the Nets right now, seven game series? Because that's
Speaker 1: what this is going to come down to. It's not, hey,
Speaker 1: what are they going to be like on Valentine's Day?
Speaker 1: They could have the best record in the league. It's
Speaker 1: when you get in a seven game series, when it's
Speaker 1: half court basketball, where every possession counts, when you have
Speaker 1: close games when you need a defensive stop. That's how
Speaker 1: you win championships. It's not about the regular season, and
Speaker 1: that's what I want to know. Playoff game and they're
Speaker 1: forcing Russell Westbrook to beat them. Is Anthony Davis going
Speaker 1: to be healthy? Can some of these younger players contribute
Speaker 1: when there's big, big moments on the line. That's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to, am Am, I questioning that, yes,
Speaker 1: because those players haven't been on this big stage before.
Speaker 1: Even Russell Westbrook he's been on the stage. But Kenny
Speaker 1: be great, what rolled is you play? And does Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis stay healthy? That's it? Yeah, Paul. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound like a dumb question. Is it
Speaker 1: an eighty two game season this year? Is our play
Speaker 1: in tournament? Is it starting on time? I can't keep track.
Speaker 1: I think it starts on time. I think there's a
Speaker 1: play in tournament eighty two games. I think it's eighty
Speaker 1: two games? All right? I think so refreshing. Once again,
Speaker 1: we can ask Wogan when he joins us Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: had a tweet about Deshaun Watson's playing status. Have that
Speaker 1: for you coming up in a moment. We'll check in
Speaker 1: with our good buddy Sean Salisbury in Houston about what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Texans. What is Plan A? What
Speaker 1: is Plan B? It's coming out bon sixteen. After the hour,
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Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Adam Schefter sent out a tweet
Speaker 1: saying that the Texans GM Nick Kasserio said on Sports
Speaker 1: Radio six ten in Houston this morning, he does not
Speaker 1: expect to Shaun Watson to travel to Green Bay this weekend.
Speaker 1: So Watson un officially out for Houston's preseason opener. Well,
Speaker 1: it's one thing to say that he's probably not going.
Speaker 1: But if he's not going, why is he not going?
Speaker 1: Remember he had the injury. And then we asked John McClain,
Speaker 1: the Houston columnist, and he said, yeah, probably from his foot,
Speaker 1: fell asleep, taking a knee on the sidelines. Feels like
Speaker 1: they're hiding to Shaun Watson in here. Yeah, Seton, I
Speaker 1: don't know that you can have him travel out of
Speaker 1: state right now. Well, legally he can. Legally he can. However, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it might just be a better idea to leave him
Speaker 1: at home in Houston. It's bringing Sean Salisbury, morning host
Speaker 1: to the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Talk seven ninety
Speaker 1: in Houston, right, So what is going on with Deshan?
Speaker 1: Is he injured or why would he not be going
Speaker 1: to Green Bay? Well, Dan, because the Distraction are not
Speaker 1: playing and he doesn't want to play for them right now,
Speaker 1: I asked Charles Robinson yesterday. I'm sure you guys saw him.
Speaker 1: The door is still open. Dam. They are going to
Speaker 1: visit this while a lot of us have it dead
Speaker 1: bolted and slam shut. But between now and the time
Speaker 1: the season starts, if the commissioner doesn't come out, if
Speaker 1: there's no legal implication and he's still there's no restrictions
Speaker 1: on playing, they're gonna they're gonna visit this and see
Speaker 1: if Deshaun Watson some point in time. He probably doesn't
Speaker 1: need a lot of reps. He knows this offense with
Speaker 1: Tim Kelly, So why is not going is he's not
Speaker 1: going to play, so why take him? I don't think
Speaker 1: he's injured. If it was it was minor Dan. I
Speaker 1: think this comes down to sitting down. If DeShawn Watson
Speaker 1: decided between now and then the start of the season,
Speaker 1: I want to play for the Texans. This is where
Speaker 1: I want to be. If he did that Dan for
Speaker 1: this year and that the talk is unless there's some
Speaker 1: federal felony indictment on him, a felony indictment, that the
Speaker 1: commissioner is not going to make a decision anytime soon
Speaker 1: on the information and the Commissioner's examplest So if he
Speaker 1: can play and there is no restrictions other than the
Speaker 1: optics of the legal stuff, why wouldn't you play him?
Speaker 1: The question is, will DeShawn say yes, I'll go all
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers on, you be talked into playing and we'll
Speaker 1: deal with this in January or February, because right now
Speaker 1: they're not going to play him. But I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, if he's able to play, why the hell
Speaker 1: wouldn't you play the best guy instead of have him
Speaker 1: in shorts and a T shirt during the games on
Speaker 1: the sideline. We know he wants to get paid, but
Speaker 1: so how can you put together a trade proposal if
Speaker 1: you're one of these teams, Let's say you're the Eagles,
Speaker 1: you're the Dolphins Denver, you don't know when he's available,
Speaker 1: and it feels like the Texans aren't taking any kind
Speaker 1: of secondary deals that they want top top end return
Speaker 1: on Watson and they should, man, they should want top
Speaker 1: end return because before the legal stuff kicked in, this
Speaker 1: is one of the three best assets in the National
Speaker 1: Football League, just was, and he instantly makes your team better. Now,
Speaker 1: with that in mind, I'm not getting twenty five cents
Speaker 1: or fifty cents on the dollar for him, and the
Speaker 1: stuff I can control is communicating with him seeing if
Speaker 1: he wants to play, dealing with the football stuff, the commissioner,
Speaker 1: and the legal stuff. That's how above their pay grade.
Speaker 1: So let's see what happens. But if you're the Texans,
Speaker 1: you say, well, listen, he's under contract. He's not going
Speaker 1: anywhere as long as we got him under contracts. So
Speaker 1: he either wants to play if he can there's no restrictions,
Speaker 1: or he doesn't, so we'll keep him here and then
Speaker 1: we'll watch teams like the Giants or the Eagles, or
Speaker 1: the Broncos, or if the Vikings flounder this year, six
Speaker 1: seven teams get into the mix. And you know this, Dan,
Speaker 1: the more that's involved, the more draft picks are gonna get,
Speaker 1: the more first roundages are going to get. His value
Speaker 1: will definitely be higher. I don't think missing a season
Speaker 1: is gonna say, well, Deshaun can't play football anymore. So
Speaker 1: if you're Nick Cassario, you're not just gonna give him away,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't either. You hold the cards. Nobody else
Speaker 1: does right now, maybe the NFL and depending on the
Speaker 1: legal side, but I'm not giving him away either. I
Speaker 1: don't have to do anything. I covered myself with Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be on Deshaun Watson, whether he wants
Speaker 1: to play or not, because somewhere, somehow, desperation's the only
Speaker 1: thing that would make a team right now, Dan, Like,
Speaker 1: if you got a Jalen Hurts hurt in preseason or
Speaker 1: you didn't think he could play, say oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: let's just do it because eventually Deshaun Watson's gonna play anyway,
Speaker 1: so let's just take the chance so we can get
Speaker 1: through the legal stuff. Desperation will be the only way
Speaker 1: they make a trade right now. How do you broach
Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins topic without making it political? Then are
Speaker 1: we talking about the he doesn't want to get the
Speaker 1: jack scene? Yeah? Dan? For me, I understand the side
Speaker 1: of people saying, as a player that it's selfish because
Speaker 1: you've got other people's careers, wins and losses on your shoulders.
Speaker 1: I do get that, and if I was a player,
Speaker 1: I'd probably think the same way. But I also when
Speaker 1: you step outside, and how can it not be political? Dan,
Speaker 1: We've turned a vaccine into Republicans versus Democrats, conservative versus liberal,
Speaker 1: which is crazy because both sides get it and both
Speaker 1: sides don't. I've always been a guy that says you
Speaker 1: should have the choice, But that's different in your personal life,
Speaker 1: because your personal life sees us to exist just by you.
Speaker 1: When you cross the line and fifty three other players
Speaker 1: an organization and wins and losses and their paychecks are
Speaker 1: on the line, it's a tough decision. If kirk Cousin
Speaker 1: doesn't get vaccinated, it's not like I wouldn't hang around him,
Speaker 1: not going to be his friend. If kirk Cousins does
Speaker 1: get vaccinated, it'll tell you that he's taken more responsibility
Speaker 1: for the team. But I refuse to tell anybody how
Speaker 1: to run their life because I don't know what their
Speaker 1: health is, or what the downfall is or for their health,
Speaker 1: or what goes on in their family or their religious police.
Speaker 1: I can tell you this, though, you have to keep
Speaker 1: in mind that it's more than one person. In mind,
Speaker 1: it's not just you and your family. You're talking about
Speaker 1: guys that are relying on their paychecks and wins and losses,
Speaker 1: and part of that falls on kirk Cousin's shoulder. But
Speaker 1: I'm not telling he should get it or not that's
Speaker 1: going to be him and his family to decide you're
Speaker 1: in Texas. I'm curious how big the Dak Prescott's situation
Speaker 1: is that this is a little trickier that this isn't
Speaker 1: you know? We moved on from the ankle, it's not
Speaker 1: the shoulder itself. And here they are contacting the Texas
Speaker 1: Rangers staff on did they face any of these kind
Speaker 1: of injuries with some of their pictures? Is this something nothing?
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, Dan, I don't trust when it comes to
Speaker 1: pro sports and doctors or coaches talking to me about injuries.
Speaker 1: I don't trust any of them. Not that they're trying
Speaker 1: to hide, but I don't trust any of them telling
Speaker 1: me and you one thing and not knowing, because first off,
Speaker 1: you're not going to panic a fan base if you're
Speaker 1: really really worried and say, man, we're concerned about Dak. Well,
Speaker 1: he's getting reps and we're watching his reps. Anytime it
Speaker 1: comes to that part of the body on a quarterback, Dan,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm concerned, especially when he's been out for
Speaker 1: this time and hadn't thrown a lot of balls during
Speaker 1: his time when he was rehabbing his lower half injury.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm concerned, and they're reaching out to others,
Speaker 1: which tells me maybe they don't know what's happening in
Speaker 1: the house. The Cowboys cannot win a division without him
Speaker 1: playing with him, they're going to be one of the
Speaker 1: five best offenses in the league as long as health exists.
Speaker 1: So you're damn right. I'm concerned because the defense is
Speaker 1: trying to scramble around and play well, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of talk in Texas, and I think people think, well,
Speaker 1: it's early in camp, will poo poo it away, He's
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. But when it's talking to that, I
Speaker 1: think there's deeper. I think there's deeper reason for concern
Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott than not because you know how I
Speaker 1: feel about him. I think he's a hell of a player.
Speaker 1: But I know damn well that without him, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys become just a team because he's not just a guy,
Speaker 1: he's one of the guys. These max contracts for quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: Josh Allen just got paid. We're waiting to see what
Speaker 1: happens with Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield. But why is
Speaker 1: it that Josh Allen just signed his extension That means
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has to make more, and then Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: has to make more. At some point, can't you just say, hey, Baker,
Speaker 1: you're You're not a forty two million dollars a year guy.
Speaker 1: You're just not. We're going to give you thirty five
Speaker 1: years for one fifty. I hope you enjoy it. Like
Speaker 1: there has to be some kind of financial sanity here
Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield is not better than Josh Allen or
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. But if he signs last out of these three,
Speaker 1: then is he going to make the most out of
Speaker 1: this three? Dad, You're exactly right. You're worth the lion
Speaker 1: in the sand of this where there is a financial responsiby,
Speaker 1: listen up, those quarterbacks you just mentioned. The guy who's
Speaker 1: progressed in every aspect of this game the most is
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, there is no question about it, and he
Speaker 1: has elevated his play. Lamar is still working on his
Speaker 1: passing game. Baker's still putting another back to back season together.
Speaker 1: What happens is the pecking order, Danny, you know this
Speaker 1: a lot of times. It's not the best guy. It's
Speaker 1: the time of it. Whether it's Dak Prescott during his
Speaker 1: injury needed to happen, and how desperate your franchise is. Now. Listen,
Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield's going to have a hell of
Speaker 1: a year. But today, if you said Sean, who's getting
Speaker 1: paid more? Josh Allen deserves more, but Dan. Let's say
Speaker 1: they wait as a season goes on and Mayfield throws
Speaker 1: for forty three hundred thirty five touchdowns, eight picks and
Speaker 1: they win the division. Guess who's gonna make that kind
Speaker 1: of money? Baker Mayfield is, So this is a monster year.
Speaker 1: And with Lamar same way, they're both gonna hover in
Speaker 1: that forty million dollars range. Neither one of them, even
Speaker 1: though he's got an MVP. Lamar's game still has to
Speaker 1: expand in the passing game, but a dynamic talent Baker
Speaker 1: has elevated. The people in Cleveland love him, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you and I think it matters to
Speaker 1: Stefanski in the front offense. Cleveland love him more than
Speaker 1: somebody else does or don't love him as much. You're
Speaker 1: looking in the next seven, eight, nine months. Those three
Speaker 1: guys in that draft are all gonna make forty plus
Speaker 1: or in that range. But the key is the season.
Speaker 1: If Baker wants to buypass it. It's just not automatic
Speaker 1: because you're the next guy you get paid. You got
Speaker 1: to pay the best guy. But if Baker has a
Speaker 1: great sea and Lamar Dan, you're going to be looking
Speaker 1: at guys that will hover around Josh Allen if not
Speaker 1: more that one hundred and fifty million guaranteed. It's called
Speaker 1: playing the most important and the toughest position in the
Speaker 1: world right now in sports, and those franchises believe in
Speaker 1: the guys, and all three of them have made elevation.
Speaker 1: Josh is the best of the three right now. Baker
Speaker 1: not far behind, and obviously the most dynamic talent with
Speaker 1: his legs and his ability as Lamar Jackson. If the
Speaker 1: Chargers and Rams were a stock, which one would you buy?
Speaker 1: Oooh gosh, that's a heck of a question. I'm so.
Speaker 1: I think Matt Stafford's a sneaky MVP can and I
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's sneaky. Yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's sneaky because we know he can rip it.
Speaker 1: I would probably if you tell me short term stock
Speaker 1: Dan Rams longer term stock, I'm going like three years
Speaker 1: or more, two years and more. I'm taking the Charges
Speaker 1: because I believe Herbert is really, really special and they've
Speaker 1: got a roster. I think the Rams have a window.
Speaker 1: But that window and I'm going to stay open long.
Speaker 1: We've seen it in the seattles and washing and an
Speaker 1: injury's coming to play this year, I'll take the Rams.
Speaker 1: Two years from now, I'll take the Charges. So short term,
Speaker 1: long term investments. I got the Rams this year because
Speaker 1: I think that they are one of the big challengers
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the NFC. And if
Speaker 1: Stafford's upright the whole season with Sean mcvayh he's going
Speaker 1: to look around saying I can't believe I'm on a
Speaker 1: team that actually has a chance to win for the
Speaker 1: first time in his career. Every week. How many teams
Speaker 1: do you think have a legitimate chance to win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Legitimate chance? Well, we know Tampa Bay, Kansas City,
Speaker 1: Buffalo at the top three. For me, I would say
Speaker 1: anytime Russ Wilson or Aaron Rodgers or your quarterbacks, you
Speaker 1: got a legitimate shot. The best roster is if the
Speaker 1: quarterback position is settled. In San Francisco, I loved their
Speaker 1: roster and when they're healthy and then some sneaky ones
Speaker 1: if you want to call him. At the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: roster in the AFC, if Baker Mayfield plays like we
Speaker 1: talked about to get that forty two forty three million dollars,
Speaker 1: the Browns will win that division. Their roster is stacked.
Speaker 1: But the question is do they believe it? Can they
Speaker 1: believe it? Can they take the next step? Probably dan
Speaker 1: a half dozen legitimate because there's some teams that are
Speaker 1: on the CUSP. While I like Seattle, I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're a super Bowl team. In law I mentioned
Speaker 1: Russ Wilson. Green based defense got to continue to elevate.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that Pittsburgh's back yet, depending on what
Speaker 1: happens with Nazi Harrison. A run game, probably six, and
Speaker 1: then probably a legitimate four or five. And all of
Speaker 1: them have one thing in common. The quarterback is a
Speaker 1: guy who can carry a team for a month or
Speaker 1: a month and a half. Always great to talk to you, Bud.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Great talking to you. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me on Guy's. Sean Salisbury, former NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: host of the Sean Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven ninety
Speaker 1: in Houston. I was looking at the over unders. McLevin,
Speaker 1: you sent this to me. The team that's getting the
Speaker 1: most action in the off season here on bets, it's
Speaker 1: impossible to predict. Nobody could possibly get that. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is the team that has Yes, Polly, I'm gonna wait,
Speaker 1: I want to hold my pick. I think I have
Speaker 1: a guess. This is the team that's receiving the most
Speaker 1: action right now in Vegas over under and this is
Speaker 1: for overwin. And then there's a team most bets right
Speaker 1: now that this team will finish under their projected win total.
Speaker 1: Anybody want to start with the guessing of this team
Speaker 1: the most bets for over their projected win total. Yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say New England is being underestimated. To side
Speaker 1: company on that, all right, mclovin, I already know. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's so weird that that's stuck in my mind. Seaton O'Connor,
Speaker 1: the Browns, Browns, Paulieu, the Chargers, the Lions, Oh, the
Speaker 1: Lions at over five most money. But keep in mind
Speaker 1: that most of the money is coming from the state
Speaker 1: of Michigan. That that that the betters in Michigan always
Speaker 1: do this with their teams. They always think the positive
Speaker 1: the glasses half full, not half empty, the most action
Speaker 1: on under a projected wind total, and I will give
Speaker 1: you the win total to see if that helped you
Speaker 1: out eight and a half wins for this team. Paulie,
Speaker 1: I think I have it because I think this team
Speaker 1: was at nine a couple days ago, and this is
Speaker 1: the team I would bet the under if I were betting.
Speaker 1: I suggest this anyway in the New Orleans Saints, all right, Fritzie,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the New York Jets. All right, the
Speaker 1: Jets aren't at eight and a half. The win total
Speaker 1: was eight and a half. Yeah, but I thought, we're
Speaker 1: guessing what team we think are gonna gonna be under
Speaker 1: eight and a half wins. There's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of teams under eight and a half wins though this team,
Speaker 1: it's projected wind total is eight and a half, so
Speaker 1: the Jets. To guess the team? The Jets are under six,
Speaker 1: so we take them out. You know this works. I
Speaker 1: gave you their win total? Will they what's the team?
Speaker 1: Never mind? I don't know. Mclo I got it, man,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's happening either. Here's by this question? Okay,
Speaker 1: but what we just did before I was guessing a team,
Speaker 1: and now we're now that was that was the over.
Speaker 1: This team is going to go over. All the money
Speaker 1: is on this team to go over their win total,
Speaker 1: and it was the Lions at five. So what you're
Speaker 1: saying is the idea that the Jets could do that
Speaker 1: is so absurd. Todd shouldn't say it. No, or this.
Speaker 1: This team's projected wind total is eight and a half,
Speaker 1: So we should have the list of teams in front
Speaker 1: of us that are that are at that number. No.
Speaker 1: I just I think what you're trying to say is
Speaker 1: if I could help that, the Jets would not be
Speaker 1: a team that would be worthy of eight and a
Speaker 1: half wins. So why guess the Jets? Is that what
Speaker 1: you say? Because I thought they have these high expectations
Speaker 1: that they're going to have a great Their win total
Speaker 1: is six, okay, so they're not at eight and a half.
Speaker 1: This team is at eight and a half. How about
Speaker 1: can you give me all the teams that are at
Speaker 1: eight and a half. No, I don't have that, then,
Speaker 1: all right, gold mc glove, I have him, the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: the Washington football team, the Denver Broncos, and I remember
Speaker 1: that and the Pittsburgh Steelers. And this is who are
Speaker 1: people being the under on the under these teams? The
Speaker 1: projected win totals eight and a half? The most money
Speaker 1: on this team, name that team. We did well with
Speaker 1: the over. I think I confused it with the wind total.
Speaker 1: The Steelers have the most money bet on them being
Speaker 1: under eight half. They weren't on Andrews list, Yeah they were.
Speaker 1: They were the last tea. Wow, can we start this over? Yes?
Speaker 1: From a football standpoint, of those teams, I read, the
Speaker 1: Steelers seem like the best team. The Cardinals, the Steelers,
Speaker 1: Washington Endeavor. Why are people of betting? Why would people
Speaker 1: bet under on the Steelers? I don't know, got a
Speaker 1: lot of Pittsburgh fans out there unless they're anti Roethlisberger here,
Speaker 1: I don't know. But eight and a half, yeah, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Saints, Wintolo is nine and nine and a half
Speaker 1: of the season. They're expected, They've got a good roster,
Speaker 1: they're always ten plus. But Drew Brees in there anymore.
Speaker 1: If the two quarterbacks both don't work out, this could
Speaker 1: be a messy. That's the one I would Well, then
Speaker 1: you got to Michael Thomas situation. Yeah, you know, are
Speaker 1: you trading him to Jacksonville reunite him with Urban Meyer?
Speaker 1: The Jags under six and a half. They they have
Speaker 1: the second most action right now of the unders, the
Speaker 1: most bet over We mentioned the lines at five, followed
Speaker 1: by the Broncos over eight and a half and the
Speaker 1: Eagles over six and a half. Yes, mcleven, Well, we
Speaker 1: clearly know Broncos fans are insane. That's been proven day
Speaker 1: in day out. So you think that that's just thinking
Speaker 1: positive here and that's why you're going to bet on
Speaker 1: them being an eight and a half. Yeah, And I'm
Speaker 1: curious why would Detroit fans think positively trend positively because
Speaker 1: they've had years I'm not saying it's being mean, but
Speaker 1: they've been losers for years in Detroit for the football.
Speaker 1: Of all the money bet on the Lions win total,
Speaker 1: eighty four percent is on the over. More than ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the bets on the Lions win total come
Speaker 1: from the state of Michigan. Yeah. Stat of the day,
Speaker 1: stat of the day, it comes that what stat of
Speaker 1: the day? Yes, Paul, you know the Lions though usually
Speaker 1: they average about six and a half seven wins the
Speaker 1: season over the past decade, but now they're they don't
Speaker 1: have Stafford. Okay, yes, John, you still seem confused. Starting
Speaker 1: to the first half of it made perfect sense, and
Speaker 1: then I guess the team. But it's like, but then
Speaker 1: I felt like I should have had some basic information
Speaker 1: in front of me of the teams to pick from.
Speaker 1: Said the Jets couldn't possibly be expected. If I just
Speaker 1: said this team has the most action going under their
Speaker 1: projected wind total, I would have said the Jets, okay,
Speaker 1: because I would think that there's just a lot of
Speaker 1: high expectations. But that's where I wound Cowboys Rams. But
Speaker 1: that's where I went eight and a half and the
Speaker 1: Jets aren't eight and a half. But I didn't know
Speaker 1: what what they wouldn't what it was for the Jets.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that they were six and a half
Speaker 1: as supposed to eight and a half. I don't have
Speaker 1: that information to fund say I don't know who's got
Speaker 1: eight and half. I got it, I got I guess
Speaker 1: a random team, But I think I got it. I
Speaker 1: got it. You got it now I do, Maybe the
Speaker 1: audience got it, maybe nobody got it. Started out doesn't
Speaker 1: mean I feel like it's that Saturday because it is you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it could have been on me because I gave
Speaker 1: you the win total. Maybe that con I'm stuck for
Speaker 1: the rest of the show. I'm just gonna say Jets
Speaker 1: for whatever. The Jets was such a terrible answer because
Speaker 1: their win total is six. But why would I know
Speaker 1: that I have I don't know what they wouldn't the
Speaker 1: Plustomidis wouldn't. Nobody would think the Jets would be eight
Speaker 1: and a half. Jet fans are all no, even the
Speaker 1: Jets fans. Wasn't it wasn't it If it was at
Speaker 1: eight and a half and you're guessing who the money
Speaker 1: is to go under that, I mean they would underperform
Speaker 1: from that eight and a half, So that would be
Speaker 1: the Jets would be a good guess. But they're not
Speaker 1: at eight and a half. You have to be at
Speaker 1: eight and a half that they project your wind total.
Speaker 1: The Jets are at sick But how do we know
Speaker 1: if the top of our head, tea, yes, who's at
Speaker 1: nine and a half right now, off the top of
Speaker 1: your head? Who all knows? Nobody Brown, the Packers. But
Speaker 1: Todd just said. Todd just said, I'm hearing a lot
Speaker 1: of chiefs, Browns and Jets. What the chiefs the Browns, Cowboys, Jets, Browns, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jet hearing that wh why are we still doing this?
Speaker 1: Somethings like these crazy high expectations. If the Rams were
Speaker 1: down the Super Bowl season, the Jets are Jets are
Speaker 1: gonna have to win ten games or failed seas. No,
Speaker 1: no one said that. I think the Jets, Browns, Rams,
Speaker 1: and Cowboys are expected to do a lot better than
Speaker 1: they're going to be. And that's what I think. That's
Speaker 1: my take, just a quick up day. Basically, Naymar just
Speaker 1: pretty much confirmed him and MESSI back together. Back to
Speaker 1: Oh Pariser Eiffel Tower, Come on in here and play.
Speaker 1: We got a horrible competition. We're gonna be awesome. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be okaywalking yes, over under our Paris Saint Germain
Speaker 1: wins this season. Who wants a piece of I don't
Speaker 1: even know how many games a Jet? Yeah, yeah, don't
Speaker 1: take the Jets. Let's take a break. Give Toime. I
Speaker 1: apologize if I screwed that up, but that's yeah, I
Speaker 1: just don't know what's going on. Let's take a break.
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Speaker 1: I just saw this report from ESPN. Celtics have offered
Speaker 1: Dennis Shrewder a one year deal at five point nine
Speaker 1: million dollars per league sources. As according to Jordan Schultz
Speaker 1: Ouch ouch, Hey, do you want this contract extension with
Speaker 1: the Lakers? Nope? Oh okay, good luck with that. So
Speaker 1: five point nine. I guess he wants to hold out
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Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going to happen to Denish Shrewder,
Speaker 1: but doesn't seem like he's going to get anywhere near
Speaker 1: what he turned down with the Lakers. Yes, Paulin, you know,
Speaker 1: we always celebrate when an athlete bets on himself and
Speaker 1: it works out like Dak Prescott waited and got paid,
Speaker 1: or certain athletes they bet on themselves. They wait on
Speaker 1: the contract, then they get that monster we rarely talk
Speaker 1: about when athletes bet on themselves and it works out
Speaker 1: to be a one year, six point five million dollars deal. Yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: what do you say to your agent when that happens? Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his fault or your fault there, Yes, Hunt,
Speaker 1: he's a shrewder businessman, but he may be pricing himself
Speaker 1: out of things. Alrighty right, all right, I don't try
Speaker 1: to bring it back after my jets, I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 1: People on social media, have you even add? Some people
Speaker 1: agreed with you. They're like, this will be the only
Speaker 1: time I ever say this. I agree with Fritzie. The
Speaker 1: premise in the setup of the eight and a half
Speaker 1: over under question was confusing. Okay, here's another one. I'll
Speaker 1: take the over that Fritzie doesn't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: That's true. You're win that every time this would collapse
Speaker 1: if they've made odds on that. This past segment is
Speaker 1: the clip to use for the Sports Emmy's absolutely hilarious
Speaker 1: and why I love the show all right, Fritzie got
Speaker 1: it in. Somebody else totally agree. Who knows what team
Speaker 1: is eight and a half? Well, you know the Jets,
Speaker 1: aren't it eight and a half? All I know is
Speaker 1: I When scene turned to me with a look of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you did wrong there, I took
Speaker 1: great comfort because I thought of really believing, like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm really an idiot, only have booksmarts that I don't
Speaker 1: understand anything outside of like memorizing the periodic table of
Speaker 1: the elements or something. And that is true. That is true.
Speaker 1: But in this one case, Sedna bailed me out and
Speaker 1: spoke up on my breath, so I didn't feel like
Speaker 1: a total dope this particular time. Here's another one. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Todd. How the hell are you supposed to
Speaker 1: know the Jets can't win eight and a half games?
Speaker 1: I would have guessed them too. I appreciate the support. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got an average team, now below average team, with
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and a rookie head coach, and you
Speaker 1: got them at eight and a half wins. No, he
Speaker 1: has them at under eight and a half wins. But
Speaker 1: which is the question. But they're projected the expectations for
Speaker 1: them to win at least nine. They're gonna like projected
Speaker 1: wind total. I'm never gonna understand. I'm just letting you
Speaker 1: know you could much better off going on to something.
Speaker 1: How did you graduate? I don't know. I memorized shack
Speaker 1: of the book, and then in your class you memorize
Speaker 1: all the notes of everything. Can you spit back all
Speaker 1: the information you write the long winded essays. They're like,
Speaker 1: you must know what he's talking about. It wrote a
Speaker 1: ten page jes say, hey, and you cheated off your neighbors.
Speaker 1: Never once it while you peak on the biology file
Speaker 1: and you see what happens. But you understood the lions.
Speaker 1: I did look, but then you changed it up a
Speaker 1: little bit all of a sudden. We needed to know
Speaker 1: all the eight and a half, okay, but you didn't
Speaker 1: provide of all. Never mind, okay, I mean we we
Speaker 1: got through it, and uh, we just move on. We
Speaker 1: have to move on. Yes, we do make love. And
Speaker 1: what's the whole question we're going with? We went with
Speaker 1: which athlete twenty five and under would you invest the
Speaker 1: most in? And it's a runaway Patrick mahomes den Zion,
Speaker 1: then Luca, then Fernando Tatis junior. Okay, is that that
Speaker 1: obviously it's Mahomes. Yeah, probably so, because he's playing for championships.
Speaker 1: Luca is fascinating, but he's not playing for titles yet. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: you could always tell that athletes worth of money when
Speaker 1: they sign a five hundred million dollars deal and the
Speaker 1: next day nobody says, man, that guy's overpaid. Man, those
Speaker 1: young athletes are overpaid. And Mahomes is like, well, that's
Speaker 1: a nice deal for the Chiefs. Well, there are some
Speaker 1: players who have signed some big deals where you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work out. Luca. I mean, he's the draw,
Speaker 1: he could be the face of the NBA. You've got
Speaker 1: a worldwide superstar here. Mark Cuban's a shrewd businessman. But
Speaker 1: the key is Luca getting into the NBA and then
Speaker 1: performing at a high level when he got in to
Speaker 1: be first team All NBA twice. Therefore he got the
Speaker 1: max deal. And you know that's where Jason Tatum lost
Speaker 1: out on thirty three million dollars. You don't make the
Speaker 1: All NBA team. Luca is going to be what twenty
Speaker 1: seven with the next deal, then thirty two with the
Speaker 1: next deal. We'll talk to WOJE. He'll join us coming up.
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