1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: How the Ravens take possession at their forty three with 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: four twenty six left to play. Quick toss. Henry running 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: to the left side, gets a block. He' said Midfieldi's 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: rolling forty thirty leg race twenty. 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 2: The King is on his feet. 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Cun how he pick it up a six yard line. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: Derreck Henry has put the Ravens in potition. Wrap it up. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 3: Oh, and wrap it up they did. Ravens get the 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: win in Cincinnati, forty one to thirty eight in overtime. 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 4: Welcome to NFL Daily, starting off strong with one of 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 4: the best games of the year. I'm Greg Rosenthal in 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: the Chris Wesseleing podcast studio with Patrick Clavn Nick Ship 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: joining us from Ohio. And yes, that was Jerry Sandusky 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 4: on wb a L. It was back and forth, but 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 4: they gave Lamar and Derreck Henry one more chance. 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 5: You don't do that, Patrick claybo. 17 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 6: It was Lamar that actually had the fun. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 7: That was tough for him to celebrate after the game 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 7: because they're on a drive with an opportunity to win. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 7: He's clapping as the clock winds down. The ball bounces 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 7: off of his hands. He forces a fumble Cincinnati recovers 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 7: it again, but there's just some chicanery with the clock 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 7: management and the play management. Zach Taylor elects to run 24 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 7: the ball three consecutive times. Evan McPherson comes out, there's 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 7: a bad hold on the kick, and the Ravens get 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 7: another chance, which is something that I did not think 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 7: they would do. 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 6: The drive summary late in this game. 29 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 7: Yes, second half drive summary for both teams touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, interception, touchdown. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 6: That's how it was. 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 7: That was the kind of game, and I did not 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 7: think Baltimore would get a stop. But that interception is 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 7: Marlon Humphrey, who was in the wrong place at the 34 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 7: wrong time for most of this entire game, finally taking 35 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 7: a guess on a shot and picking off Joe Burrow 36 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 7: ultimately give him a chance to win this game. 37 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: It's why I wanted to start with this game, not 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 4: just because it puts you know, what is potentially a 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: Super Bowl contender in Cincinnati at one and four and 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: really put some win in the sales of the Ravens, 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: but that it exemplifies this week's games. I think this 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 4: was the best week of football that we had. We're 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: going to get to a lot of really fun, tight 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: games throughout the day, and it kind of reminded me 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 4: of the Thursday Night game too. Yes, it's offense, offense, offense, offense, Patrick, 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: but it ended in part because Joe Burrow throws a 47 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: crucial interception that gives the Ravens an extra possession at 48 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 4: the end of regulation. They also pun after getting the 49 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: ball with a minute and thirty five left and you're 50 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: thinking they're gonna have a chance, there's the fumble, there's 51 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 4: the missfield goal because of the bad snap, and so 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 4: it was a little bit of everything. It was redemption 53 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: for Justin Tucker and Nick Shook like I know, they 54 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 4: stopped him for a chunk of this game. But man, 55 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 4: this Derek Henry Lamar Jackson offense is just a lot 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: to deal with. 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a lot to deal with. It's why I 58 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 8: picked the Ravens in a high scoring affair. I just 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 8: didn't think it would be forty one eight stream. But 60 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 8: I guess this is the nude age, or at least 61 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 8: when you face the Bengals defense. It bumps me out 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 8: for Joe Burrow that he has to be nearly perfect 63 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 8: every week to give his chance he'd give his team 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 8: a legitimate chance to win, and he throws one interception 65 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 8: at the worst time possible, and it's a backbreaker, and 66 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 8: it allows the Ravens an opportunity to win the game. 67 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 8: Because he's been so good, and you have the Bengals 68 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 8: defense has not been anywhere near as good, and going 69 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 8: up against a team like the Ravens, number one rushing 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 8: team in the league, Bengals have a soft front, you 71 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 8: knew this was going to happen eventually. I'm surprised that 72 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 8: they actually contained him as long as they did before 73 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 8: they finally broke through. So the final score, while very high, 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 8: not too much of a surprise in one of the 75 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 8: most thrilling games of the year. 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 7: And ultimately in that overtime possession where the Ravens fumbled 77 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 7: the ball on the snap to Lamar where he's clapping. 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 7: A couple of plays before that, Derek Henry could have 79 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 7: ended this game. There was a run to the right 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 7: side where Henry almost broke free Hubbard got his ankles. 81 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 7: Kind of the story of the game where the highlight 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 7: that everybody will remember is Lamar stiff arming Hubbard twice 83 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 7: on a touchdown pass to Isaiah. Likely, that's gonna be 84 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 7: one of those plays that we're going to see a 85 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 7: billion time. 86 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: Oh, let's listen to it right now. I'm sure Sandusky's 87 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: got a good call on this one. Let's go to it. 88 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Labar in the shotgun. Lamar bobbles the snap, have to 89 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: pick it him off the turf. He's been chased, proud 90 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: stiff arms a man Damn Hubbard, and finally slings in 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: the back of. 92 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: The end zone Touchdow. 93 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 9: I'm saying likely, Oh my unbelievable. Lamar Jackson bobbled a snap, 94 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 9: picked it up off the turf, stiff armed Sam Hubbard 95 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 9: a lah Derrick Henry, extended the play, threw back across 96 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 9: his body, and hit the tight end. In other words, 97 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 9: he did everything wrong for the perfect outcome, which is. 98 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 7: The story of the Baltimore Ravens in this particular game 99 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 7: where this game has gotten away from them. It's tough 100 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 7: to look at the stat line for Jamar Chase, who 101 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 7: had ten catches for one hundred and ninety three yards 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 7: and two touchdowns. There was absolutely a problem on the 103 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 7: other side of the ball. Ultimately, the the bounces work 104 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 7: out for Baltimore where they hadn't earlier in the season, 105 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 7: then they get right. 106 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: I mean, Marcus Williams has been an issue for the 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 4: Ravens in their secondary this year, just getting burned for 108 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 4: big plays. He was flat footed on at least one 109 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 4: of those Jamar Chase touchdowns where he takes the short 110 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 4: pass for seventy yards. T Higgins, I think has looked 111 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: really good the last few weeks. He gets two touchdowns 112 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 4: nine for eighty three, and yet it hurts that Burrow 113 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: has such an electric game, but then he has that 114 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: interception and then he doesn't get a chance at the end. 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: And this stuff is driving me crazy. And I know 116 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 4: the kickers are better than they've ever been. We'll get 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: to a few of them that were awesome this week. 118 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 7: Glenn Tucker's today right, a driven fifty seven fifty nine yard. 119 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 4: Yes, I shouldn't lose that fact that this was a 120 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: great day for Justin Tucker to get his groove back 121 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: with that big one to tie it late in regulation. 122 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 4: Then of course he hits the short game winner too, 123 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: which is always a nice feeling. But they on it 124 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 4: three straight times and it has given me flashbacks to 125 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 4: Marty Schottenheimer and Mike McCarthy and all the coaches that 126 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 4: don't trust their quarterback for some. 127 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: Reason in the biggest of spots. 128 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: And yet you can say, well, it was more on 129 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: the the snap, but it's a long kick and either way, 130 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: just let them go try to win the game on offense, 131 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: like there was no reason to really worry, but it 132 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: was maybe in his head that interception that they had. 133 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna read like people are very angry in Cincinnati. 134 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 4: Our friend the spice Rack sent me a group his 135 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 4: group Bengals text and it's it's just got a lot. 136 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 5: Of F bombs. 137 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 4: I can't even really read it, but every they want 138 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: everyone fired is basically the the answer that is effing embarrassing, 139 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: e fing losers, absolute effing losers. 140 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 5: F this staff. 141 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 4: And yeah, this is kind of where Bengals fans are 142 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 4: right now. 143 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 6: I've never seen so many sweat words. I love this 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 6: istually edited. I wish we could show this. 145 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 5: Maybe yeah if you watch on YouTube. 146 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 4: Maybe after the Factor I'll put it out on social 147 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: with some with some things blurted out, but prayers to 148 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 4: Spice Track. Maybe maybe this is the game though that 149 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: I thought that the Ravens deserve. I know Bengals fans 150 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: won't want to hear this, but the Ravens should be 151 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 4: three and two. 152 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 5: They're a good team. 153 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: They're the first team nick to rush for more than 154 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: a thousand yards in the first five games of the 155 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: season since the six Falcons with Michael Vick and Michael 156 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: the Berner Turner, and only the second team since eighty four. 157 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 4: So they seem perfectly built in twenty twenty four where 158 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: it's more about running than passing to win. And yet 159 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: today Lamar you know, throws for a three forty eight 160 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 4: and four touchdowns. He gets both his tight ends involved 161 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 4: or three tight ends involved, Isaiah likely, Mark Andrews. 162 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 5: Goes four to fifty five, and Kohler goes wild. 163 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: So they have to feel really good about their offense 164 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: and getting a tough division win. 165 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 166 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 8: I mean, entering the week, the Ravens were in first 167 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 8: in rushing yards per game by a marginal more than 168 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 8: forty five yards per game. Like that's significant in the league, 169 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 8: and it makes you realize that. Then they can go 170 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 8: out in Lamark and throw for three forty eight and 171 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 8: four touchdowns and you're like, I don't know how to 172 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 8: stop this team. This is what makes them so scary. 173 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 8: In fact, folks probably look back at their ower and 174 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 8: two start and think, God, we should have I wish 175 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 8: the cow you know, the Cowboys would have buried them 176 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 8: when they had an opportunity, you know, the kind of 177 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 8: like where the Bengals are at one and four right now, 178 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 8: I wish somebody else would have. The team's on a 179 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 8: roll already. 180 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 6: Well you know what happened. 181 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 7: Now they've they're built to play from behind now, Greg 182 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 7: where previously apparently they weren't built to play from behind, 183 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 7: but now you know, it's a little roster construction back. 184 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 4: Maybe it is good for them actually, because they've given 185 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 4: up all those ten point leads. They're not built to 186 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: play with the lead, and yet they're They're one of 187 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: the few teams we were thinking like we were a 188 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: certain team which we'll talk about soon. Patrick and I 189 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 4: have put on fraud Watch, and then I was thinking 190 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 4: about it. I was like, well, other than like the 191 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 4: Vikings and the Ravens, could you could put the whole 192 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 4: league on fried Watch right now? But the Ravens are 193 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 4: feeling good at three into and yeah, but before we go, 194 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 4: let's let's listen to Lamar after the game, because It's 195 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 4: always nice to hear a happy Lamar. 196 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 10: What are the emotions that you are feeling right now? 197 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 11: I'm kind of tipped off, you know, that overtime fumble 198 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 11: that limits trying to get the ball from my center. 199 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: But I even did a great job, you know, stopping 200 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 6: those guys. 201 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 5: A great office over that great team all around, and 202 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 5: who got it done? 203 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 6: You know the goat. Shout out to the goat man 204 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 6: jt Andy here. 205 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they got a lot of potential goats on the 206 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: same roster there between Tucker and Henry and Lamar Jackson 207 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 4: playing the quarterback position as well as anyone in the league. 208 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: Let's go to Houston, where CJ. Stroud was doing the 209 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: same for most of Sunday. 210 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: To give the Texans the victory. 211 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: Here's the snap by Weeks the spot. Here's the kick 212 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: by fair Baron has the distance and it's. 213 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 5: Gone fair Bear Winton at the buzzer. The Texans beat 214 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 5: the Bells nine yards. 215 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: Put the cub on Htown Day twenty three to twenty. 216 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's Htown Day. Isn't every day h Down Day? 217 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: Mark VanderMeer from k I L T Kyami fairbearn Yeah, 218 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 4: just we got these kickers just hitting old fifty nine 219 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: yarders like it's nothing. Another controversial end of the game 220 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 4: play calling sequence. Zach Taylor taken a lot of heat 221 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati for what he did. I think Zach Taylor 222 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: was a lot more at fault for what happened in 223 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 4: the Bengals game than Sean McDermott and the Bills were 224 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: for what happened at the end of regulation. You look 225 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: at the drive chart and you see that that fair 226 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 4: baron kick came on a two play, five yards seven 227 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 4: second drive. 228 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: Wait, how did that happen? 229 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 4: It happened because Josh Allen threw three straight in completions 230 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: after getting the ball inside of their own ten yard line. 231 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: It was as clearly the three yard line with thirty 232 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: two seconds to go. Now, a lot of things happened 233 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: to set that up. It was a totally boneheaded situation 234 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 4: there to recover the ball. You get it at the 235 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: three yard line, it's thirty two seconds left, but the 236 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: Texans have three timeouts, and Sean McDermott explains after the game, 237 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 4: we know Kyami Fairbairn has that sort of leg, We 238 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 4: know that they have all three timeouts. If he could 239 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: do it again, he says he probably would have run 240 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 4: the ball on first down, but I actually agree with 241 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 4: them that they were in a very tough spot. They 242 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 4: have to get the first down there or else you're 243 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: in the exact same situation if you ran the ball 244 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: three straight times. Yes, in theory, you could have made 245 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: them burn all three timeouts, but they also would have 246 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 4: had more time in that in that case than the 247 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: seven seconds, and you could have very well ended up 248 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: in the same situation in the end. 249 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 5: They have to get the first down. 250 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 4: Now, I think you can fall nick what Josh Allen 251 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: decided to do. Maybe some of the routes that they're 252 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: throwing that there weren't enough options or weren't enough decisions, 253 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 4: throwing the ball short and he's throwing low percentage passes 254 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: down the field. I got some stats on that that 255 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 4: are absolutely crazy. But to me, it was a little 256 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 4: bit more about execution that the Bills just couldn't complete 257 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 4: a ten yard pass because they were in a very 258 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: tough spot there. With the field position, I think most 259 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 4: likely the Texans are probably going to get the ball 260 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: in a decent position unless you pick up a first down, 261 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: and they didn't pick up a first down, so I've 262 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 4: killed Sean McDermott over the years for play calling and 263 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 4: game management. I actually don't think this is as big 264 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 4: of a deal as people are making it out to be. 265 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 8: Well, let's not leave Joe Brady out of this too, 266 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 8: because he obviously plays a big part of yes. Well. 267 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 8: It kind of speaks to what happened to them against 268 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 8: the Ravens early in that game last week, where they 269 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 8: essentially struggle in yard situations in which they need a 270 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 8: first down. Like I know, and it sounds simplistic to 271 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 8: say that, but like early in that game, they could 272 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 8: not get the fourth down or they decided to pun 273 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 8: If you're getting a fourth down earlier, they couldn't convert 274 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 8: third and eight or even any longer, and they're backed 275 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 8: up against their own goal line. It's a double edged sword, though, 276 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 8: because we just got on Zach Taylor for being conservative 277 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 8: and running the ball three times before trying to set 278 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 8: up a field goal. You could try to run the 279 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 8: ball a couple of times there, but you're backed up 280 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 8: against your you know, the shadow, your own goal post. 281 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 8: What if you get stopped for a loss and suddenly 282 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 8: you've given up a safety in a tie game. So 283 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 8: it's a really tough situation to navigate. So it really 284 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 8: does come down to execution and also speaks to the 285 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 8: bills inability to find consistent success in the passing game 286 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 8: unless it's a little bit of Josh Allen heroics, which 287 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 8: is a thing that we've seen over the last now 288 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 8: two games. So they need to go back to the 289 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 8: drawing board and I think examine what they do in 290 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 8: these situations, whether it's early in the game or in 291 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 8: a key situation like that late and ultimately they end 292 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 8: up with egg on their face. But at the same time, 293 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 8: you know, what are you gonna do, Like it's you're 294 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 8: five yards away from your own en zone, you have to, 295 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 8: you know, kind of tread lightly there. 296 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 7: I think Joe Brady and and Shohn McDermott's defense, you're 297 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 7: not gonna have a Josh Allen. A whole lot of 298 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 7: Josh Allen games, He's one of fourteen against pressure for 299 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 7: twenty four yards. Like Josh Allen only completed nine passes. 300 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 5: He's usually the best quarterback of the league against pressure. 301 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 6: And it's I think it's just an anomaly. 302 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 7: I hope Josh is okay, But in those situations, three 303 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 7: straight passes, you think Josh is gonna roll out, He's 304 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 7: gonna do the pump fake thing, He's gonna go off. 305 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 6: He had a couple of good runs in this game. 306 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 7: Just the universe somehow, you know, in this conspiracy against 307 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 7: the Bills. Uh, just in a game where the Texans 308 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 7: made mistakes late as well, there was a game winning 309 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 7: drive opportunity where Daria Kumbuale, instead of getting some extra 310 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 7: yards for fairban on the drive before, for some reason, 311 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 7: slides the burn clock and he could have got at 312 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 7: least seven yards. Just an odd decision. I guess because 313 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 7: Dari's hit game winning field goals. He did it last year. 314 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 7: Maybe he had confidence in his dude, right, I think 315 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 7: I'm not sure what happened there. 316 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: Well, I think he was. He was trying to keep 317 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 4: the clock movie. I mean, it was very clear he 318 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: was trying to keep he had first out. I actually 319 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 4: thought that was a good play by a goombawale. I 320 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: hear what you're saying. Maybe he could have just tried 321 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: to run someone over. He's a big he's a big dude. 322 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: But at that point in the game, and I'm really 323 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: glad you brought that up. It looks like Houston is 324 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 4: going to be able to run the clock down potentially 325 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: and kick their own version of a game winning field goal. 326 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 5: But CJ. 327 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 4: Stroud has an intentional grounding, which I think was the 328 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: right call, but that ends up backing them up before 329 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 4: the punt. So there was there was like a lot 330 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 4: going on here. But you mentioned one for fourteen on 331 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: pressure throws. Josh Allen went nine for thirty in this game. Yeah, 332 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 4: for one hundred and thirty one yards in a touchdown. 333 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: That's the lowest completion percentage for a passer that through 334 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: at least thirty passes. I forget what the number was, 335 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 4: but it was a really long time, Like you don't 336 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: see a nine for thirty. He went one for fifteen 337 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 4: on throws over ten yards, and I went and looked 338 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: that throw over ten yards was about twelve or thirteen 339 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 4: or something, So it was something like zero for twelve 340 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: on throws plus fifteen. All day you just saw him 341 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: throwing hope balls down the field, and they played a 342 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 4: lot of single high They weren't, so they were almost 343 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: daring them to throw the ball deep. They don't have 344 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 4: a lot of guys who can win one on one. 345 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: The Texans trusted their secondary, their secondary played great. They 346 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: got a lot of pressure on Josh, even if it 347 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of sacks, which is the story of 348 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 4: the Bills offensive I mean the Texans defensive season, And 349 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 4: I just think this is a game where, if you 350 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: go back and watch it, both defenses were outstanding. 351 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: CJ. 352 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 4: Stroud got four hundred and twenty five yards of offense 353 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: and I think did amazingly positive things. But he also 354 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: turned the ball over twice in the second half and 355 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: could not move the ball, and the Bills defense stood 356 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 4: up over and over and over and over again, giving 357 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 4: their offense a chance to win in the second half. 358 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 4: So you got to say their defense played outstanding two 359 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: And I'm just giving up to both these defenses that 360 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: they were ahead of the offenses in this game, and 361 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: that Yeah, the Bills have some things to figure out offensively. 362 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: In a game where they did run the ball really 363 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 4: well against a good Texans run defense, they maybe should 364 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 4: have stuck with it a little more because they were 365 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 4: getting consistent chunks when they ran the ball. 366 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 367 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 8: I have one note from the live watch before I 368 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 8: go back and watch this again tomorrow about Josh Allen, 369 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 8: and it just says stuck playing hero ball, and it 370 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 8: really concerns me, not like seriously, we're long term concern 371 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 8: but just in the last couple of weeks, this looks 372 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 8: a lot like he was stuck, you know, in that 373 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 8: situation he was stuck in in the final weeks of 374 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 8: Ken Dorsey, and that is not where the Bills offense 375 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 8: needs to go. And you're right, they ran the ball well, 376 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 8: but when the ball's in his hands, he doesn't need 377 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 8: to be out there trying to play hero the whole time. 378 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 8: That's how you end up nine for thirty. And yeah, 379 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 8: you're right, typicalt to the defense is and everythinglse. I'm 380 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 8: sure they're get at ironed out, but for one day 381 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 8: visually not great and. 382 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 7: Looking over at because you're trying to explain this nine 383 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 7: of thirty performance. Curtif Samuel had five yards average separation, 384 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 7: Mac Collins had four and a half, a Dalton Kinkaid 385 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 7: north of three and a half, and so it's. 386 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 6: Maybe it was just a bad Josh game. 387 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: Maybe it was the picture that the Texans were showing 388 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 4: them were not clear because whenever he threw it to 389 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel, it was a disaster. Like Curtis Samuel, who 390 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: I've always defended did not look great. They threw seven 391 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 4: targets to Samuel and Valdez Scout Wan for a total 392 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: of zero yards, and so they're just not in sync. 393 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 4: The offensive line, though, is playing really well. Like I said, 394 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 4: they ran the ball for I think like one hundred 395 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 4: and fifty yards on the game, and they protected Alan 396 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: well enough. They missed Khalil Shakir in this game, but 397 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 4: Khaliol secure should not mean that much to him. 398 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 5: I give McDermott credit. 399 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: He went for a fourth and five where the announcers 400 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: are saying don't go for or it was Charles Davis 401 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 4: saying don't go for it. It was at midfield in 402 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 4: a close game, I think a ten point game, and 403 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: they hit Keon Coleman for what turns out to be 404 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 4: a forty nine yard catch and run touchdown. 405 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 5: So that's an ultimate great job. 406 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 4: Nico Collins, I should mention left this game with a 407 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: hamstring injury that was caused on a sixty seven yard 408 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 4: touchdown where he absolutely dusted the Bills secondary. The rookie 409 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 4: Cole Bishop made a miss steak there ate the cheese, 410 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: and that left Stephan Diggs kind of as their number 411 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: one receiver mostly playing out of the slot, and Dix 412 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: came through with enough possession chain moving catches six for 413 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 4: eighty two. I noticed a somewhat if you could have 414 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 4: an icy hug, I would say Diggs and Alan had 415 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: an icy hug. It was the quickest hug you can 416 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: possibly imagine. And a little bit of side eye from 417 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 4: Diggs afterwards. Here is Digs in the locker room after 418 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: the game. 419 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 5: Allay, y'all, I know how much that mentioned me. I appreciate, y'all. 420 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 5: I love y'all. But the biggest thing we gotta get 421 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 5: back to work. 422 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 8: Man. 423 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 5: That was a hell of a wind, but we gotta 424 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 5: get back to the grind on the next week. Man, 425 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 5: love y'all boys, Man, I like that. 426 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, look at just stuff on breaking it down in 427 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 7: the locker room. Maybe maybe the quick hug is because 428 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 7: like he knows, Josh played a bad game. He's not 429 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 7: trying to sit there and draw even more to Okay, 430 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 7: who knows who knows? 431 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 5: Fair? 432 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 4: But then I also watched all the other hugs and 433 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 4: interactions Stefan Diggs was having, like immediately before and after 434 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: they were longer. Eric has his hand raised for the 435 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 4: first time, so real quick It's just something. 436 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 6: I noticed. 437 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 12: Texans played Minnesota last week and they did so much 438 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 12: be roll about Digs hugging it out with everybody hasn't 439 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 12: been there in like what five six years. There was 440 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 12: hugs with people I'm sure he'd even play with. He 441 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 12: was in Buffalo last year. I didn't see one Josh Dappa. 442 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 12: I didn't see any love on the sidelines. 443 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 5: It was weird. 444 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 4: I saw some other love that he was getting from 445 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 4: his old teammates, but not with Josh. You know, We've 446 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 4: heard some things and I don't think it. It is 447 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 4: like a secret that they weren't necessarily like. 448 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 6: On but it is a secret. 449 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 7: It is a secret, okay, right, but it's literally a 450 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 7: secret nobody knows. 451 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 12: There was a crazy love fest video on like Minnesota 452 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 12: Twitter after the game. I don't even think Diggs was 453 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 12: there with that guy and he's hugging this guy like 454 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 12: it's his uncle. 455 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 5: Stephane was there last year in Buffalo. What we we doing? 456 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 4: Texans get the last laugh four and one. That could 457 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 4: be a big game when we're looking at seeding at 458 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: the end of the year. The Texans have survived a 459 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 4: couple tricky weeks here and now they are well in 460 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: front in the AFC South and the Bills fall to 461 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 4: three in two. Let's go to Santa Clara, where I 462 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 4: didn't expect one of the games of the day, but 463 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 4: we got one of the games of the day. 464 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 13: First down snapped to Purdy straight droughck in trouble hit 465 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 13: and the ball flutters far aside and Kaizer White with 466 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 13: a diving interception to win the game. 467 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 5: Head midfield. 468 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 13: Purdy got hit, the ball fluttered and Kaizier White caught 469 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 13: up to it, pulled it in and. 470 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 5: The Cardinals are gonna get one. In San fran. 471 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 11: Unbelievable, David, the ball batted into the air. Crazy Carls 472 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 11: showed up for the Arizona Cardinals. Bat the pig into 473 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 11: the air and Kaizier White comes down with it. 474 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: Bat the pig into the air. Let's go one of 475 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: the most underrated players in the league, Kaizier White. 476 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 5: I can't do that for long. I can't do that 477 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 5: at all. 478 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 4: Twenty four to twenty three, the Cardinals get a stunning 479 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 4: victory against the forty nine ers on the road. Not 480 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: just stunning because of the recent history between these two 481 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 4: teams and where the Cardinals have been at the last 482 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: few weeks. But stunning because it was a twenty three 483 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: to ten lead at halftime and the forty nine ers 484 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: don't get another point. Stunning because the Cardinals go for 485 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: two when they're down four. Spicy ends up winning on 486 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 4: a Chad Ryland thirty five yardfield goal before that interception 487 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: by my man Kaisier White shook. Tell me, because you 488 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 4: watch this game closer, what do you think was the 489 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: key to the Cardinals winning the second half? 490 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 5: Fourteenth and nothing? 491 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 8: Running game number one. Everybody knows who's watched the Cardinals 492 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 8: this year that if the running games going, they have 493 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 8: a chance offensively. And James Connor, who got to halftime 494 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 8: with nine yards on six attempts, I ended up with 495 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 8: eighty six yards on nineteen attenpts. He didn't score, but 496 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 8: he paced this offense and balanced it out, which bought 497 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 8: first off He kept theim on schedule because the Cardinals 498 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 8: in the third and long are terrible, and it kept 499 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 8: them on schedule, which allowed Kyler Murray to just take 500 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 8: the short passes, kind of dot the field with completions 501 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 8: and keep the offense movie. So that was the first 502 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 8: part balancing out the offense. The second part was takeaways. 503 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 8: They were backed up first in goal fort Niners with 504 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 8: the ball first and goal, moving right down the field, 505 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 8: about to put the game away. Jordan Mason around the 506 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 8: left end, and a linebacker you've never heard of because 507 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 8: he hadn't played it down before today, comes in and 508 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 8: knocks the ball out and it's recovered by the Cardinals, 509 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 8: which then gives them the opportunity to go down the 510 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 8: field and take the lead with chad Ryle Oya, well, 511 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 8: it's gonna take me a second to five. Ketta Luketta, 512 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 8: I don't know, Jesse Luketta. Jesse Luketta was his name, 513 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 8: and he made a finalenal play. Dennis Gardak makes a 514 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 8: key pass break up on third and twenty three. Because 515 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 8: the Niners lose Jake Moody to injury, they're not gonna kick, however, 516 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 8: long field goal very long out of Mitch Wishnowski's ring, 517 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 8: so they have to go for it on fourth and 518 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 8: twenty three. It's all the key little plays in between 519 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 8: that stacked up, stacked up, and they capitalized, and every 520 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 8: single one of them avoided catastrophe and came away with 521 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 8: a shocking win that nobody saw coming. 522 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 7: A defense that really bothered brock Party, who only had 523 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 7: one completion under pressure on the day wow most of 524 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 7: his when brock Perty we see it all the time, 525 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 7: spins away, rolls out to his right, makes a play 526 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 7: when he's got time over two and a half seconds. 527 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 7: Brock Purty was ten of twenty four in this game 528 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: with two interceptions, just making some weird decisions. Not sure 529 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 7: what John Gannon's defense did, but it was really a 530 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 7: problem for this forty nine Ers offense to make big plays. 531 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 7: Jordan Mason was really the only play that the forty 532 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 7: nine Ers could make other than a couple of you plays. 533 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 4: Okay, So one of the theories that I've long believed 534 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 4: there are some of these coordinators that dial up these 535 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 4: crazy game plans and sometimes they really hit, and sometimes 536 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 4: they really oh you know what I mean, Like that, 537 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: if you're a game plan defense, you can have a 538 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: game like where you win forty one to ten, and 539 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: I think this is almost a game playing offense too, 540 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: where they're very creative like they did against the Rams, 541 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: or you can have a game like last week where 542 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 4: they lose forty two to fourteen, like it's not working, 543 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: or you really muddy up the picture and without like 544 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 4: the best talent Nick, you end up, you know, winning 545 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: and making enough big plays to keep this forty nine 546 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 4: ers offense down on the other side. 547 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 5: I suck. I didn't see a ton of this game. 548 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 4: But Kyler Murray has a fourth and five, the game's 549 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 4: on the line. They are driving for what turned out 550 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: to be the go ahead, game winning field goal, but 551 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: they almost certainly lose that game if he doesn't get it. 552 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: And he has the most Kyler Murray fade away jumper 553 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: to Marvin Harrison on fourth and five. Not many guys 554 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: can do that. And that's just your best player is 555 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 4: making a great play. 556 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, And it was a quiet day for Marvin Harrison 557 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 8: Junior before that fact, they highlighted had been targeted six 558 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 8: times that one catch that ended up being probably the 559 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 8: biggest catch of the day. And he just throws basically 560 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 8: a jump all on and out. He knows he's gonna 561 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 8: be there. He just throws it off his back foot 562 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 8: with the rush all in his face, and of course 563 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 8: Marvin Harrison Junior comes down with the ball, buys him 564 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 8: a fresh set of downs, and then they're suddenly in 565 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 8: a position where they can run the ball and start 566 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 8: to drain clock because they know they're in field goal range, 567 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 8: and again timp of the cap new arrival, Chad Ryland 568 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 8: shows up to replace Matt Prater, who's injured ice in 569 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 8: his veins all day, knocks in both of his field 570 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 8: goal attempts. Beautiful, beautiful comeback win for them. 571 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 4: I mean, Chad Ryland was had one of the worst 572 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 4: seasons any kicker has ever had last year for the Patriots. 573 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 4: Was It's on Belichick's like twenty twenty three epitaph there 574 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 4: that he used the fourth round pick. But he he's 575 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 4: back in the league, and I'm. 576 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 5: Happy for him. I guess I'm not that happy for him. 577 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 7: He lack Greg Oh, Who's who's their kicker? I'm like, oh, 578 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 7: they got child Ryland. Just like it's like that's over. 579 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 4: There's yeah, ros, there's no way they gotta do. I 580 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 4: want to go back to the Cardinals going for two 581 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 4: down four. 582 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 6: Yeah. 583 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 4: Look, if they hadn't made that, that's one where people 584 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: are going to get out of them. They they won 585 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: this game partly with an edge in the numbers. I mean, 586 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: that is a gutsy call. Kyle Shanahan went for a 587 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: field goal on fourth and goal from the two yard line. 588 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 4: So those are those are like analytics plays and Kyle 589 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: Shanahan is not playing by the numbers, and the Cardinals 590 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: in those cases decided to and it really paid off 591 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: for them. The forty nine ers are now oh to 592 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 4: two in the NFC West. Both of those games they 593 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 4: had ten point leads in the second half against the 594 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: Rams and the Cardinals. They're ow to three in the NFC. 595 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: Sets up a very compelling Thursday night game which these 596 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 4: two guys, Nick Shook and Patrick Claybon are taking care 597 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,719 Speaker 4: of for me while while I'm in you know, hopefully 598 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 4: asleep in the middle of the night in London. 599 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 5: That that's uh, that's a big game. 600 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 4: I mean the forty Nick, the forty nine ers got 601 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: a kick return touchdown, no, a block field goal return touchdown, 602 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 4: and an interception on a screen pass that set them 603 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 4: up on a short field and they lost this game. 604 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 4: And so, you know, Fairs fair like they had some 605 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 4: big things going there advantage and they did not win. 606 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was one of those games where it just 607 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 8: felt like everything was going their way and they were 608 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 8: going to cruise to victory and it was almost a 609 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 8: formality until the second half arrived and they started to 610 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 8: kind of get you know, Steymy by the Cardinals defense, 611 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 8: and then they started making plays and the balance just 612 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 8: kind of shifted back in their favor, and you knew 613 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,239 Speaker 8: you were like one or two explosive plays away from 614 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 8: suddenly this changing that never really quite happened. It was 615 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 8: just a steady approach and because they had enough time, 616 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 8: that's why they ended up pulling it out. But I mean, yeah, 617 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 8: it's one of thoseames they're gonna look back and think, 618 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 8: how do we lose this game because we made all 619 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 8: the plays the right places in the first half and 620 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 8: they went to sleep. I mean, Brandon aw Yuke one 621 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 8: hundred and forty seven yards on eight catches, his first 622 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 8: breakout his fight before was under fifty yards, like that 623 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 8: should be leading toward a victory, and they just didn't 624 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 8: get the do right. 625 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 5: They're just weird. 626 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 4: I mean, Jordan Mason has more yards rushing in the 627 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 4: first five games than any running back in the history 628 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 4: of the forty nine ers. But that fumble just absolutely 629 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 4: turned the game. And yeah, you gets going. But then 630 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 4: John Jennings has you know, thirteen yards on fok targets 631 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 4: and Deebo Samuel has eleven yards on the game, and 632 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: so they're just they're they're having a hard time putting 633 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: it all together. 634 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 5: That can happen for teams. 635 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: I don't know that lose the Super Bowl and it's 636 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 4: a long offseason and a whole lot of injuries. We're 637 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 4: gonna go take a quick break here and when we 638 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 4: come back yet, we're gonna travel. 639 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 5: Across the ocean. 640 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: Oh, it was a fun game in Tottenham Hotspurs game. 641 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: It was a long game. We'll talk a little. Vikings Jets. 642 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: The chests five of sixteen on third down, Rogers back 643 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: to pass. 644 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 5: Paid right, seems stop to did Gilmore pick it off? 645 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 5: Come on? 646 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 14: Good buy? I believe it was Stefan Gilmore, buddy's game. 647 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 14: You have to buy his teammates and why wouldn't he. 648 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 14: The Minnesota Vikings are going to improve. Took five and zero. 649 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmore. 650 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: The Vikings five and Oh what a world kfan. Paul 651 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 4: Allen always getting it done, just like Stefan Gilmour, always 652 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: getting it done, reading the throw, trying to go back 653 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 4: shoulder to Mike Williams. Gilmore saw it, Mike Williams did not. 654 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 4: It is time for the Sunday Drive presented by the 655 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 4: all new hybrid Toyota Camry and yes it was our 656 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: NFL Network game. It was a big game I think 657 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: in the Jets season, and more than anything, I think 658 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 4: it was an awesome game by the Vikings defense. It's 659 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 4: tricky like whether you want to give credit, you know, 660 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 4: to bad offense or good defense. In this case, Patrick, 661 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 4: We've seen this Vikings defense scramble so many different teams 662 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: that if not for a very poor Sam Darnold game 663 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 4: and a bad interception in the fourth quarter, this thing 664 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 4: would have been over and quite boring with the way 665 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 4: that the Vikings defense played through about the first ten 666 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 4: to eleven possessions that the Jets had. 667 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: And then they did it with consistency. 668 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: It wasn't just big plays, because I know Aaron Rodgers 669 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 7: had three bad passes that they'll tell you were bad passes, 670 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 7: including the one that Stefan Gilmore got, But they were 671 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 7: consistent as the day went on, especially getting pressure on 672 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers, who ultimately ended up throwing the ball fifty 673 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 7: four times wow, and this one including twenty two targets 674 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 7: to Garrett Wilson. But on the other side, while the 675 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 7: Jets got called for a litany of penalties. It was 676 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 7: really just a consistent veteran performance, something that we've seen 677 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 7: from this Vikings defense for the entire season. Bothering Aaron Rodgers, 678 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 7: limiting Breese Hall on the ground to nine carries for 679 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 7: twenty three yards. Braylan Allen didn't fare much better. They 680 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 7: both averaged two point six yards per carry. Smothering they're 681 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 7: in the right spots. It's just a very very good, 682 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 7: solid deal. 683 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 5: It's very well coached. 684 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: Shook before that Donald interception, which really changed the game. 685 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 4: With under ten minutes to go, they're in their own end. 686 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 4: It's just been a punt fest in the second half. 687 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,479 Speaker 4: Donald struggled since Aaron Jones went out, which was early 688 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 4: in the second quarter with a hip injury. He gives 689 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: the Jets a chance on a short field and they 690 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 4: cash in for their second short field touchdown of the game. 691 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 4: Before that, the Jets offense had had six punts, two turnovers, 692 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 4: those interceptions by Rogers, one turnover on downs, and yeah, 693 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 4: they got three after a special team's penalty gave them 694 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 4: an extra possession on a roughing the punter like the 695 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 4: Jets got three points that way, and they got another 696 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 4: seven on a short field, So the offense almost hadn't 697 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 4: done anything themselves. They had like very few total yards, 698 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 4: and yet there they were at the end of the 699 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 4: game driving and I'm thinking, like, man, is Aaron Rodgers 700 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 4: gonna do this? And right now I don't think there's 701 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: just like a lot of belief and a lot of 702 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 4: like cohesion in that offense. 703 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, last week I got on them for 704 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 8: making Aaron Rodgers throw it forty two times in the rain. 705 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,959 Speaker 8: Fifty four times seems like a lot, and it is. 706 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 8: But there was a period during that stretch where they 707 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 8: tried to run the ball twice and got stuffed like 708 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 8: three four five yards deep in the backfield, like just 709 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 8: completely losing any sort of semblance of a blocking unit 710 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 8: on the interior on those plays. And I'm like, well, 711 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 8: I understand. I mean, Aaron Rodgers almost got tackled on 712 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 8: the handoff on that play. I guess they have to 713 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 8: throw the football. Everything is hard for this offense right now. 714 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 8: Everything is difficult, and Aaron Rodgers just looks so exasperated, 715 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 8: like he first off, he's trying to make some miracle throws, 716 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 8: which he tried when Alan was ard in the end zone, 717 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 8: which was placed perfectly but the window was like smaller 718 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 8: than the size of my face, which can often appear 719 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 8: large in the screen at times. It was about that big. 720 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 8: To expect anybody to catch that would be out of 721 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 8: their mind. And he almost did. And yet Rodgers is 722 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 8: very angry at himself and maybe angry with the fact 723 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 8: that it wasn't, you know, producing a positive result. It's 724 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 8: just there's so much frustration right now. So that's how 725 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 8: you end up with this final score, like where you 726 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 8: end up with seventeen points in a pick in the 727 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 8: final minute, but they had a shot. Now I have 728 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 8: to say this, guys. Five games in, I am sold 729 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 8: on the Vikings defense. I wasn't so skeptical. I was like, well, 730 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 8: maybe it's a matchup thing. What they did to the 731 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 8: Niners was maybe that was the aberration. I am sold 732 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 8: now because of the way Brian Flores has count me 733 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,479 Speaker 8: the last guy on the train. I'll get on the caboose. 734 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 8: I don't care. That's good because they're good. They're they're 735 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 8: well coached. Like you said, you know, Harrison Phillips is 736 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 8: a monster in the inside. They have a great unit. 737 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 8: And Gilmore getting that pick, I mean because he was 738 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 8: getting kind of touched up by Garrett Wilson earlier in 739 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 8: the second half. Him getting that pick in that situation 740 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,479 Speaker 8: felt very vindicating, I think for this entire Vikings team. 741 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: Right, but are we believing in the Vikings offense? This 742 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 4: was a step back. Look, Aaron Jones is not as 743 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 4: important as Justin Jefferson to this offense. And certainly the 744 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 4: offensive line gives them a huge, big foundation to build off. 745 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 4: And they were fine today at least in their their 746 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 4: pass protection. But Donald had had a tough game. Miss 747 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 4: you know, he got hitting the rips very early and 748 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 4: maybe that was a factor, but just missing throws all 749 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 4: over the place, not really seeing the field too well. 750 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 4: I mean, I think Rogers was just as good or 751 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: better than Darnald in this game. Donald goes fourteen for 752 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 4: thirty one. But you know what, he gets the ball 753 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 4: with them only up three after that touchdown drive that 754 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 4: I was saying, and he makes his best couple of 755 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 4: throws of the game at the end, one to Jefferson 756 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 4: and then another of the tight end Johnny Mutt and 757 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 4: get some three points there and so they feel better 758 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 4: going into the buy. I think that he had a 759 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 4: nice one. He's not afraid to keep sleeping. I'll give 760 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 4: him that. Like, he kept firing it in there, and 761 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 4: there were some bad decisions and bad throws, and he 762 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 4: kept going and it paid off in the end that 763 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 4: he had a couple of good throws. 764 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, both one wide receivers got a lot of volume today. 765 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 7: A lot of those balls that Sam Donald threw justin 766 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 7: Jefferson's way probably could have gone somewhere else in the progression. 767 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 7: I can't be too mad at Sam for that, but 768 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 7: I'll tell you it was a It was just a. 769 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 6: A standard Sam Donald game before this. 770 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 8: Season, right, That's how I felt, too, Like this. 771 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 7: Is we'd seen this before the rest of the team. 772 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 7: I picked him up there. And of course Aaron Jones 773 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 7: is a huge factor, but and I don't really know 774 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 7: how much of the game plan went to Aaron Jones 775 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 7: and how much just goes out of the window when 776 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 7: ty Chandler comes in. 777 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 6: But ty Chandler had a turnover as well. 778 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 7: It was just it did impact things, but I don't 779 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 7: really know that it was as much. 780 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: No, Well, he adds twenty two targets to Jefferson and 781 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 4: Addison for only nine catches, which just you're just not 782 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: used to seeing and some were just misses and some 783 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: were just bad decisions. Both of these guys, I mean, 784 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson had twenty two targets in this game. I 785 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 4: thought Rogers was making a point to force it to him. 786 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 4: Early on the very last drive of the game, Garrett Wilson, 787 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: you know, kind of sees the coverage is stepping up 788 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 4: on them on what looked like a hitch rout and 789 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 4: then he decides to go deep and Rogers sees him, 790 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 4: but he can't make the play in the throat. They 791 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 4: would have won the game or they would have taken 792 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 4: the lead there if he hits Garrett Wilson, And those 793 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 4: are the fine margins. Like Rogers just isn't creating very 794 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 4: well on his own. He ends up going three for 795 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: seventeen on throws over ten yards. 796 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 5: So there were just. 797 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: Some funky numbers here, and the Vikings go into their 798 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 4: by five and oho, the Jets chose not to take 799 00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 4: a buy. 800 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 5: It's the way the NFL does it these days. 801 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: If you go to London, the team can actually request 802 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 4: to have the buy afterwards or not, like if they 803 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 4: don't want it that early in the season, that the 804 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 4: NFL says, okay, you don't have to have it afterwards, 805 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 4: and they will play the Bills in a really interesting 806 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 4: Monday night game, but they are at two and three 807 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 4: long way to go. Let's actually listen to Rogers after 808 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 4: the game. 809 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 15: I'm definitely banged up. I got my foot cat on 810 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 15: a pile there, you know, but just seems to be 811 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 15: a low ankle sprain. 812 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 6: You know. 813 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 15: Again, they were trying to get me in the tent 814 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 15: and we had a roughened kicker and I said, screw it, 815 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 15: I'm going back out there. 816 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, let's read type performance from an where he's honestly, 817 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 7: because I had left the house to get in to 818 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 7: do Game Day Live, and I saw Rogers writhing around 819 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 7: on the ground and I'm thinking, oh, that's that's tough 820 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 7: for the Jets. 821 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 6: You know. Rogers goes down and I get back in 822 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 6: and he's playing in the game. 823 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 4: He was cross was crawling around like on the sideline 824 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 4: after his knee got wrenched up, and you thought, my god, 825 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 4: this could be like a long term injury. And suddenly 826 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 4: he's back out on the field and they had like 827 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 4: a long drive. So injuries were a factor here. But yeah, 828 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 4: he diagnosed as a low ankle spring Sauce Gardner. We 829 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 4: should also mention uh was evaluated for a head injury, 830 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 4: but he did return to this game right at the 831 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 4: very end. 832 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a lot of time on the sideline, 833 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 6: but I do believe he was. 834 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 4: Yes, he was back in and Uh, just because I 835 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 4: like patting ourselves on the back. Let's just mention if 836 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 4: you listened to the previews, show what game we took 837 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 4: as a survivor pick, and there were there were some 838 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 4: there were some land mines out there. 839 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 5: You could have gone forty nine ers today. That would 840 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 5: have been trouble h. We didn't do that, so we 841 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 5: went with the Vikings and they came through it. Good 842 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 5: job by me, Patrick and Steve Wisch. 843 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 4: That was the Sunday Drive presented by the all new 844 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,720 Speaker 4: high Toyota Camriy. 845 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,959 Speaker 5: Whatever your vibe, it's a Camra vibe. 846 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: Learn more at Toyota dot com slash Camery. Let's head 847 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 4: to Washington, Nick, One of these weeks we should just 848 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 4: take you off Brown's duty, but this was not that week. 849 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 10: Second and seven at the forty one yard line, two 850 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 10: wide receivers of the right at three to the left, 851 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 10: Dicapri inerts next to each other inside the numbers. Diccaffrey 852 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 10: chip blocks Jaden. Look what up towards the Emmy running 853 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 10: gun up, touchdown, tuckdown. 854 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 5: That was Bram Weinstein from WB I G. 855 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels goes deep to Diamy Brown, part of a 856 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 4: thirty four to thirteen victory. The Washington Commanders are four 857 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 4: to one. They've won their last two games by a 858 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: combined score of let me do the math here seventy 859 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 4: six to twenty three. Jaden Daniels wait for eighty two 860 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 4: on the ground. Now they're you know, a couple of 861 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 4: big throws through the air, a sixty six yarder, a 862 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 4: thirty three yarder, and a forty one yarder, Like, is 863 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 4: this one of the best teams in football? 864 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 13: Nick? 865 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 5: Look whoa Well? 866 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 8: You know, the big concern with them wasn't quarterback, because 867 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 8: Jade Daniels proved himself rather quickly starting with that Monday 868 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 8: night went over Cincinnati. It was the defense. Can the 869 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 8: defense get a stop? Well, in the last two weeks, 870 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 8: the defense is allowed to combine twenty seven points while 871 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 8: outscoring them. 872 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 6: Like you just said so, dan. 873 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 8: Quinn's fingerprints kind of all over this. They had seven 874 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 8: sacks a day against the Browns offensive line that is 875 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 8: very quickly becoming notorious for being a sieve. And you 876 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 8: can sack Deshaun Watson as much as you want against them, 877 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 8: as long as you send the house on third down, 878 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 8: as every defense is done to the Browns this year. 879 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 8: But this defense is coming together and especially in the 880 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 8: front seven. The back end still leaves me a little 881 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 8: bit concerned, but the front seven is really playing well. 882 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 8: They were dominant on both sides of the ball today. 883 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 8: Just a complete team win. And you know, it's funny 884 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 8: because you look at Jane Daniels stat line's fourteen to 885 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 8: twenty five for two thirty eight, a touchdown and a pick, 886 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 8: probably his roughest game in the NFL so far, maybe 887 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 8: save for like, I. 888 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 5: Don't know, week week one was yeah, week one, I 889 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 5: would say. 890 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, weak one, because I mean he's still produced. But 891 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 8: they were trailing that whole game, right, Uh. He still 892 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 8: was awesome. It's just that the Browns had a nice 893 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 8: little edge on him early in the game and their 894 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 8: offense is so bad that it didn't matter, and he 895 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 8: eventually he found his groove. That touchdown passed with Janny 896 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 8: Brown was the straw that broke the camel's back. The 897 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 8: crack of the dam that burst, you know, and whatever 898 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 8: it is, that's what it was. And it just was 899 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 8: a cruise fest from there for the commanders who look 900 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 8: fantastic offensively. 901 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, let's listen to our friend Bram Weinstein again for 902 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 4: a candidate. I'll throw out there from Dayden Daniels for 903 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 4: the throw of the year. I don't know this one 904 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 4: caught all right, Tody Cannon. 905 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 6: It's not the. 906 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 10: Daniels big pressure coming up the middle and he tried 907 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 10: to get away from gulping it. Douns moved to his 908 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 10: right hook a Deuthfield throwing from the chlorin behind. 909 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 14: It a game. 910 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 6: Again. The magic i'll tighten down was. 911 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 4: This old display London Fletcher there on the call along 912 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 4: with mister Weinstein. I mean sprinting right throwing that ball. 913 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 4: It's just how it comes down so pretty Patrick, and. 914 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,919 Speaker 7: It's a great throw. It will be on the toty reel. 915 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 7: It's not quite touching Richardson's no, but and. 916 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 5: I wish McLaurin finished it with a touch on that. 917 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 5: I was bad luck. He just got caught by for 918 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 5: behind by the ankle. 919 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 6: But I mean it's it's an incredible throw. 920 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 7: The guy also for this, for like the fourth week 921 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 7: in a row I'm looking over, Cliff called an incredible 922 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 7: football game Austin Eckler had At one point in the 923 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 7: fourth quarter, Austin Eckler had sixteen yards per touch, like 924 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 7: per catch and per carry, like everything was working. Of 925 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,399 Speaker 7: course Jayden's doing He's seven yards seven and a half 926 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 7: yards of carry, and so it's tough to figure out, 927 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 7: like how much is the rookie being phenomenal and not 928 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 7: being a lot of tape on him and Cliff just 929 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 7: putting together a great game plan. But I mean, the 930 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 7: win for the Browns today is somehow getting Jadan Daniels 931 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 7: to have eleven incompletions. 932 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, like that that's the win for the Browns. 933 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 4: I saw, you know, Jaden Daniels against unblocked pressure in 934 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 4: the first half. There was four unblocked pressures. He went 935 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 4: two for two for seventy eight yards. One of them 936 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 4: was you know, that long throw, and then he ran 937 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 4: for thirty six yards. So even the perfect defense is 938 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 4: not getting him down. He is just a force of nature. 939 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 4: I would say the story of the NFL season right 940 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 4: now is Jaden Daniels. This is so much different than 941 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 4: twenty twelve because of the ownership. Yes, and twenty twelve 942 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 4: people look back on now is like a moment in 943 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 4: time of like, oh, yeah, that couldn't have last. You 944 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,720 Speaker 4: would have known that at the time. That was equally 945 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 4: magical in terms of the level of play that RG 946 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 4: three was at. He was fantastic, like his level, but 947 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 4: the fact that Snyder was there, it was it was 948 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 4: always something hanging over this organization. It changed things in 949 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,720 Speaker 4: a way that this feels like a totally fresh, different 950 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,359 Speaker 4: type of start. 951 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 5: That is not the case. 952 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 4: It's almost the opposite. In vibes when we're talking Cleveland. 953 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 4: Nick listen to Kevin Stefanski after the game asked if 954 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 4: he's going to bench Deshaun Watson. 955 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, we're not changing quarterbacks. We need to play better. 956 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 15: I need to coach better. 957 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 6: And that's really what it is. 958 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, when when you start just saying like everyone around 959 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 4: him needs to play better, that's not a good sign. 960 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 4: Give me your Deshaun Watson recap from today ends up 961 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 4: throwing the ball twenty eight times for one hundred and 962 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 4: twenty five yards, and a. 963 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 5: Lot of that was in garbage time. 964 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 8: Well, point number two, and by what we learned is 965 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 8: it's time to bench DeShawn Watson. 966 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 14: OK. 967 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 8: And I don't say that with any sort of you know, 968 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,800 Speaker 8: Cleveland background in me. It is just obvious. This is 969 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 8: a guy who is holding your offense back. Yes, they 970 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 8: don't protect well. Yes they don't run the ball except 971 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 8: for maybe a third of their plays, and they don't 972 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 8: do it well until late in the game. And it 973 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 8: doesn't matter. But this guy is not playing quarterback at 974 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 8: an NFL level anymore. He's just not soon. He's been 975 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 8: under pressure so much in the first four or five 976 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 8: games of the season that as soon as he senses pressure, 977 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 8: he's pulling his eyes down. There are guys open. He's 978 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 8: looking at the USh almost immediately. He held the ball 979 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 8: for an average of three point twenty seven seconds today. 980 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,960 Speaker 8: He's not making quick decisions. He lacks the speed and 981 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 8: mobility to get out of the pocket and extend plays 982 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 8: with his legs or pick up positive games for first downs. 983 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 8: It seems like he doesn't even want to run unless 984 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 8: he absolutely has to. Ball security is bad. The entire 985 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 8: offense is being held back by him. They have money 986 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 8: invested in receivers, They have money invested in David Djoko 987 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 8: and tight end. None of that matters because even when 988 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,359 Speaker 8: they're open, he misses him by three yards. He did 989 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 8: it early in the game against the throw to Amari 990 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 8: Cooper today and Greg Olsen was like, you're wide open 991 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 8: the NFL on that throw, Like you got to make 992 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 8: that throw. He's not good enough to play in the 993 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 8: NFL as it stands right now. And if the Browns 994 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 8: want to dig out of their one and four hole, 995 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 8: they need to accept that fact. Kevin STEFANSI needs to 996 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 8: make a change and see what happens, because you have 997 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 8: no future with him right now. Played and simple. 998 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 6: We already have the president once this season. 999 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 7: Dave Canalis on a Sunday after a bad loss by 1000 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,439 Speaker 7: the Carolina Panthers comes out and says, we're not making 1001 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 7: a change at quarterback, lowe of the hole. Thirteen hours later, 1002 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 7: it's announced that there's a change at quarterback. I don't 1003 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,240 Speaker 7: see Jamis comes in this game. Those one pass, it's complete. 1004 00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 7: I'd like that one pass. I'd seen enough. I'd seen 1005 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 7: that before this year. But I feel like we have 1006 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,759 Speaker 7: evidence as to right now what the best option for 1007 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 7: the Cleveland Browns is. 1008 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 6: It's not Deshaun Watson. 1009 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 4: Well, Kevin Stefanski knows that he knows the score. He 1010 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 4: knows who pushed for Deshaun Watson and who didn't, and 1011 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 4: to make it clear, I don't, but he he knows, 1012 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 4: like how much of that was his decision, how much 1013 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 4: went into this season and they're planned for the backup 1014 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 4: and not deciding to bring Joe Flacco back where Dorian 1015 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 4: Thompson Robinson is at because he's going to be an 1016 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 4: option at some point, if not right away. I don't 1017 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 4: think it's a guarantee that it would be Jameis Winston 1018 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 4: if they go to another quarterback. But he also knows 1019 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 4: that is a conversation I have to have with ownership 1020 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 4: with the general manager. Whether that's right or not, that's 1021 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,800 Speaker 4: just a fact of life in the NFL, because I 1022 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,359 Speaker 4: think when you go away from Deshaun Watson, you're never 1023 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 4: going back. It's the worst contract in the history of 1024 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 4: the NFL. It's the worst trade in the end. We're 1025 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 4: in the history of the NFL, and it's been the worst. 1026 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 8: Just like. 1027 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 4: To make a mistake that was so obvious before they 1028 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 4: even made it. I would have never expected the on 1029 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 4: field product to be this bad. I thought it was 1030 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 4: a mistake because of everything else that Deshaun Watson was bringing, 1031 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: including a suspension. 1032 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 9: Uh. 1033 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 4: And now now we're here and I don't know what 1034 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 4: kind of career he's going to have moving forward. 1035 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1036 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 4: Maybe they will let him play six more games, like 1037 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 4: everything is possible with this team. 1038 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:41,160 Speaker 5: I doubt it. But man, it's just dark. Man, it's 1039 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 5: pretty it's pretty dark. 1040 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1041 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 8: I mean, we operate with the privilege of hindsight here, right, 1042 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 8: But at the same time, how many times are you 1043 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 8: gonna slayer your face skins of brick wall before you 1044 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 8: decide to stop proceeding in the direction of the brick wall? 1045 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 8: Because the Browns are headed nowhere fast. And it all 1046 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 8: has to do with Deshaun Watson. And it's as simple 1047 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 8: as if you need proof, just look at last year. 1048 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 8: Like I know, personal around he has changed their offensive lines, 1049 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 8: banged up, But just look at last year. This is 1050 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,440 Speaker 8: you got Joe Flack off the couch and he played well, 1051 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 8: Like make the change for how. 1052 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 4: About the Jacobe Brissett heere you have all sorts of proof, 1053 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 4: all off Kevin Stefanski's era. There even Baker Mayfield when 1054 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 4: he was going well like he has a history of 1055 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 4: quarterbacks that have done better, and they gave him and 1056 00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 4: Andrew Berry, who deserves a lot of heat here because 1057 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 4: he ultimately made the trade like Watson pretty late in 1058 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 4: this game, had one point four yards per pass. I mean, 1059 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 4: you just can't play football this way. They are the 1060 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 4: only the six teams since two thousand to have under 1061 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,560 Speaker 4: three hundred yards and under twenty points for their first 1062 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 4: five games of the season. The other teams quarterbacks for 1063 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 4: those game. For those teams, there were a couple of 1064 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 4: Dolphins teams involved. It was actually post surgery Dante Culpepper, 1065 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 4: which bumps me out in a little. 1066 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 5: Joey Harrington A. J. 1067 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 4: Feely was involved, Jimmy Clawson's Panthers team, Josh Rosen's doll 1068 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 4: Dolphins team. 1069 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 5: It just ye, it's it's some of the worst teams ever. 1070 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 4: And I do want to say before we move on, 1071 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 4: I apologize to Jordan Rodrieg of The Athletic for complaining 1072 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 4: that she put Frankie Luvu on our preseason All Pro team, 1073 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 4: Because man, Frankie Luvo is bawling out right now. Two 1074 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,319 Speaker 4: back to back dominant games. Frankieluvu, It's getting it done. 1075 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 4: Let's end on a positive note and go to where 1076 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,960 Speaker 4: Jordan was on Sunday, Sofi Stadium, Rams Packers. 1077 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 13: Here, it is ballgame, fourth down in almost five football 1078 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 13: to the thirty Gaglina green Bay Stafford of the shotgun. 1079 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 13: Three receivers left, snap Stafford looking waiting throws it's broken up. 1080 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 2: In complain, Yes, broken up on the play on. 1081 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:49,319 Speaker 13: A slap bantern and it is Carryington Valentino breaks it up. 1082 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 5: There is your dagger. Finally it was a final lyay 1083 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 5: like you thought it was over, then it wasn't. I 1084 00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 5: thought it was over and then it wasn't. 1085 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 4: But finally the Packers defense gets to stop Wayne Lairvi 1086 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 4: on wr N tow Look. The Packers get it down 1087 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 4: twenty four to nineteen, send the Rams into their buy 1088 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 4: at one and four. 1089 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 5: The Packers get a much needed win. 1090 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 4: To get to three and two on a day Patrick 1091 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 4: where they didn't have Romeo Dobbs because they suspended him 1092 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 4: after he missed practice on Thursday and Friday, apparently reportedly 1093 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 4: upset about the game plan. They had a game plan 1094 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 4: that was pretty heavy on Tucker Kraft and Jane Rita. 1095 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 5: I like that Don Tavian Wicks. 1096 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 4: That did not work out for them, but they did 1097 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,120 Speaker 4: get a win in kind of a game that had 1098 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 4: a little bit of everything, a little bit. 1099 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 7: Of everything, and ultimately, when you look back at this game, 1100 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 7: I understand Green Bay comes in their favorite. They're healthier 1101 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 7: than Los Angeles. The Rams lost this game right. There 1102 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 7: were two third quarter turnovers that the Packers turned into scores. 1103 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 7: One of the Rams touchdowns was an absolute gift from 1104 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:03,760 Speaker 7: Jordan Love with Tody worst Throw of the Year campaign candidate. 1105 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,400 Speaker 7: As he's falling out of the back, could just take 1106 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 7: a safety. He's falling, he tries to get the ball 1107 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 7: to his tight end, ends up throwing a pick six. 1108 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 7: But the Packers on third down were one of eight 1109 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,240 Speaker 7: one of eight ah third down, they got out gained 1110 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 7: by the Rams. Those turnovers doomed the Rams in and 1111 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 7: a performance where it seemed like because Matthew Stafford has 1112 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 7: been carrying this hurt Rams team. There were a couple 1113 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 7: of throws from Matt Stafford to I just haven't seen 1114 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 7: all season, some misses, good performance, but ultimately coming up 1115 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 7: short because of. 1116 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:35,800 Speaker 6: Some crucial errors. 1117 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, he throws it forty five times to get to 1118 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 4: two hundred and sixty yards. You know, they went into 1119 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 4: halftime with a lead, but then a fumble on their 1120 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,600 Speaker 4: first drive of the second half. And they're a team 1121 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,040 Speaker 4: that just has such a small margin for error, and 1122 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 4: that was a Kyrin Williams fumble, who's been playing great overall. 1123 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 5: They spelled them a little more in this game. 1124 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 4: Finally blake Quorum out of moth balls and look good 1125 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 4: getting twenty five yards on five carries, but like, they 1126 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,720 Speaker 4: just can't afford plays like that. And then the Packers 1127 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 4: offense finally got going for a couple of touchdowns, and 1128 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 4: I was thinking, Okay, finally like a normal Jordan Love game, 1129 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 4: because I just think he's been so up and down 1130 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 4: this year. 1131 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 5: But then they struggle in the fourth quarter. 1132 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 4: They punt a couple of times, including one on a 1133 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 4: long drive, and he had that interception. So I don't 1134 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 4: think this qualifies as a normal Jordan Love game. But 1135 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,480 Speaker 4: you'd rather be figuring things out at three and two, 1136 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,280 Speaker 4: especially in a season where you didn't have your quarterback 1137 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 4: for two of those games. They survive in the like 1138 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,760 Speaker 4: Shanahan Tree, you know, off Lafleur beats McVay. 1139 00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, this is one of those games where they're gonna 1140 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,359 Speaker 8: look back and say, I'm really glad. I think i'd 1141 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 8: we won that game, because like we did not play 1142 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 8: our best, Like you said, Jordan Love has been up 1143 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,920 Speaker 8: and down since he came back from that knee injury, 1144 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 8: and yet they pull out a win. He had one 1145 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 8: really nice throw late in this game that really killed 1146 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 8: me because it went right through Dantavian Wix's hands and 1147 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 8: then it forced them to punt and the Rams get 1148 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,879 Speaker 8: the ball back. But what really killed me the most 1149 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,399 Speaker 8: was the missus you talked about with Stafford, that fourth 1150 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 8: down throw that that we just played it. He's under 1151 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 8: pressure and he misses his target probably body yard, and 1152 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 8: throws it basically out of his catch radius. And that's 1153 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,879 Speaker 8: just how it all ends. And mcveigh's expression says it all. 1154 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 8: He's just staring up with his mouth agape, like I 1155 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 8: can't believe that just happened. I thought we had a 1156 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,360 Speaker 8: good shot. Another game where a lot of things just 1157 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 8: feel difficult for them. I know they're hurt offensively, they're 1158 00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,239 Speaker 8: missing a bunch of alignment and everything else. They're missing 1159 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 8: their top two receivers. But a winnable game that you 1160 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 8: end up losing and you're now one and four, and 1161 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,479 Speaker 8: like McVeigh, you know he alluded to after like it hurts, 1162 00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 8: and it should hurt, because this is a winnable game 1163 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 8: against a team that's gonna end up with a winning record, 1164 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 8: and you're gonna be looking up at them in the 1165 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,640 Speaker 8: overall NFC standings if you can even get out of 1166 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 8: your own division, and you're just gonna sit back and think, ah, 1167 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 8: there's one of those ones that we should have had, 1168 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 8: and now we're one and four. We got to dig 1169 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 8: out of this hole. 1170 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's bad one and fours, and then there's teams 1171 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,400 Speaker 4: like the Rams, who had that one game against the Cardinals, 1172 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 4: but otherwise it's been just there in their three losses, 1173 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:55,400 Speaker 4: all to good teams. And you wonder when he misses 1174 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,400 Speaker 4: he throws though it's such a timing offense. And you know, 1175 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,399 Speaker 4: Jordan Wittington is clearly their number one receiver. I think 1176 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 4: he's a really good player actually, and he should be 1177 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 4: owning all fantasy leagues if he wasn't already. I think 1178 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,799 Speaker 4: he's doing a lot of what they asked Cooper Cup 1179 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 4: and Poka Nakua to do. And I think Stafford clearly 1180 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,879 Speaker 4: trusts him seven for eighty nine. 1181 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:14,879 Speaker 5: But he's your one. 1182 00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 4: Two to out well is your two and Kobe Parkinson 1183 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 4: gets thirteen targets in this game. 1184 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 5: That's tough. 1185 00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 4: Packer's weird situation. Yeah, Wicks had a bad game and 1186 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 4: he had that drop. I mean that's some of the 1187 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 4: problems with with Jordan Love. But the Dobs situation they 1188 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 4: have to figure out. I do like that they're unlocking 1189 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 4: Tucker Kraft who had an outrageous sixty six yard touchdown. 1190 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 4: That was a fantastic play. And then let's let's talk 1191 00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 4: about the throw that Jordan Love had to Jayden Reid. 1192 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 4: I think this is a Tony candidate throw of the year. 1193 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 4: Let's take a listen second and ten, Green. 1194 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,759 Speaker 6: Bay the Packers forty five. 1195 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,160 Speaker 13: Love takes play action back with a little deep rop, 1196 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 13: past time rainbows for re Downlina stuff. 1197 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:02,720 Speaker 11: My god, catch him set Hey. 1198 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 6: Sid sanction a trouble catch. 1199 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 5: Tell me goes put on a play. What a catch 1200 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 5: that is right near the top for me. 1201 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 4: Patrick's sixty one yards uh total air yards on that 1202 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 4: to throw it from one hash to the other into 1203 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 4: double coverage, but it gets where it needs to go. 1204 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: Outstanding catch too. Jaden Reid is is Jayden Reid like 1205 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,439 Speaker 4: an all pro? That's a totally separate point. 1206 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 6: Do it, yes, to your separate point, I do. 1207 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 7: I do believe he is because it might have been 1208 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 7: a better catch than it was a throw, A little 1209 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 7: bit of a journey. I'm still I'm frantically on game 1210 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 7: day lot trying to look through the roster to see 1211 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 7: who number four is? Uh for the rams, but he 1212 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 7: takes the cecuitous route, doesn't necessarily track the ball, actually 1213 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 7: winds up running past the balls. 1214 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 5: Is that a Kella weatherspoon? 1215 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 6: I think it is. 1216 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 4: If if you want to know who number four they, 1217 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,760 Speaker 4: I think did they sign him recently? And they actually 1218 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 4: had uh Trenavious White a healthy scratch. If you want 1219 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 4: to know how things are going at their cornerback, well. 1220 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 8: He hasn't been good at all. 1221 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 6: Well, it's it's been an adventure back there. It's it's 1222 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 6: a nice throw. 1223 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,840 Speaker 7: I don't I don't even know I'm gonna have that 1224 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 7: Jayden Daniels throw probably a little bit better. 1225 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 4: Okay, just put them both on the on the real 1226 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 4: eric and consider for our midweek meeting where we meet 1227 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 4: with all the higher ups in the NFL yes, Goodell 1228 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 4: shows up on the zoom, but like you know, the 1229 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 4: face isn't on it, so I don't know if he's 1230 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 4: really the right. Let's maybe bring up the idea of 1231 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 4: the worst throw there, the w Tony what is it? 1232 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 4: Because Jordan loves Jordan loves there with like three different 1233 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:38,120 Speaker 4: Will Levis throws. 1234 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 5: All right, let's go to Seattle. We're not done with 1235 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,360 Speaker 5: big plays yet. Let's go. 1236 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 6: Myers and his tenth year out of Marist. His shut 1237 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,800 Speaker 6: snap is good, kick on it, splaining. 1238 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 5: Fuck by the Giants. 1239 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 16: They gotta toushed up the middle and they scoop it 1240 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,880 Speaker 16: up coming down the left side of Houston. 1241 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 6: He's still five and he's for the score a touchdown. 1242 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 5: Price Ford Wheton is the. 1243 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 6: One that picked it up. 1244 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 4: Bryce Ford we in on a block by Isaiah Simmons. 1245 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 4: It was just a day for blocked field goal returns. 1246 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 4: It was a day for defensive touchdowns. More on that 1247 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,439 Speaker 4: in a second, And it was a day for Yeah, 1248 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 4: Isaiah Simmons not playing a lot of defense these days, 1249 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 4: but gets it done at a point where it looked 1250 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 4: like the Giants might blow a twenty three to thirteen 1251 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 4: fourth quarter lead, but special team saves them. 1252 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 7: On a play where Brian da Ball shouting out the 1253 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 7: special teams coordinator, and ultimately there's a lot of consternation 1254 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 7: in Seattle about the results of this play because as 1255 00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,080 Speaker 7: well the long snapper as well as the guard Lake 1256 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 7: and Tomlinson got pushed in the back and held down. 1257 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:54,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, Isaiah Simmons could jump over them. 1258 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 7: Apparently the rules clarification is that's okay, keep an eye 1259 00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 7: out for that in the league, because they weren't being 1260 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,040 Speaker 7: held down, they weren't pulled down, they weren't blocked, they 1261 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 7: were just kind of made stationary. Give a clear lane 1262 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 7: for Isaiah Simmons on what ultimately I thought was about 1263 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 7: to be a Geno game winning touchdown drive Greg but 1264 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,080 Speaker 7: the Giants defense made the place. 1265 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so proceding that was a drop by. 1266 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and jigba Am I remembering it correctly, I 1267 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 4: mean that goes right off his hands on third down, 1268 00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 4: and so that ends up setting up that field goal. 1269 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 4: Gino also threw an incomplete deep to lock it right 1270 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 4: before that, and so they're in such great position with 1271 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 4: a ton of time and then they're suddenly making that kick. Yeah, 1272 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,919 Speaker 4: that was I mean, Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach, said 1273 00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 4: after the game he thinks it was legal what the 1274 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 4: Giants did not many people have dexter Lawrence's I mean, 1275 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,600 Speaker 4: that's the thing, like, how many people are that strong 1276 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 4: to actually pull that off? And how many people are 1277 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,360 Speaker 4: that athletic Isaiah Simmons to jump over the top without 1278 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 4: making any contact with the line, which would make it 1279 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 4: a penalty. So I give it more to the individual execution, 1280 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 4: and the Seahawks didn't execute ultimately because that that dropped 1281 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 4: by JSN absolutely killed them. 1282 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 8: I have an answer for that another player who is 1283 00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 8: as athletic enough to do that, Miles Garrett and in 1284 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:20,560 Speaker 8: Indianapolis last year. 1285 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but it is rare, that's what we're talking about. 1286 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the class. Yeah, the freaks. 1287 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, the freaks of the NFL can do that. Yes, exactly. 1288 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 8: It's a thrilling play. But I thought it was fitting too, 1289 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,680 Speaker 8: because the Giants defense really made life tough for Gno. 1290 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 8: I know, he finished, you know, twenty eight to forty 1291 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 8: for two eighty four in a touchdown, but nothing was 1292 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 8: easy for them. And this is a Seahawks offense we 1293 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 8: saw go to tote with the Lions a week earlier. 1294 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 8: They're a pretty explosive offense when everything's working right, and 1295 00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:45,960 Speaker 8: even things for DK Metcalf were tough. I mean, he 1296 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 8: had four catches for fifty five yards and it was 1297 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 8: he had a fumble that was a turning point in 1298 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 8: the game as well. So, you know, shout up the 1299 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 8: Giants defense. You know, we we focused a lot on 1300 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 8: quarterbacks in this league, and Daniel Jones has steadily been 1301 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 8: better and better since his ugly start of the season, right, 1302 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,280 Speaker 8: you know, a small baby steps along the path toward 1303 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,680 Speaker 8: being a competent quarterback. But this defense has really been 1304 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 8: sneaky good for them and has kept them competitive, especially 1305 01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 8: in their last few games. I mean, it was dominant 1306 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 8: against the Browns. It made a big difference in this 1307 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 8: game today, maybe not in the next gen statsic. Their 1308 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 8: pressure eight was what thirty five point three percent, So 1309 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 8: that's not really going to jump off the screen for 1310 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 8: you that much. Solid, but nothing easy for Gina. Yeah, 1311 01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 8: I mean it's solid, but it's not like, well, they're 1312 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 8: in the forties. Nothing was easy for Gina though, because 1313 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 8: of this Giants defense, that front four and really that 1314 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 8: front seven has made life tough for a lot of 1315 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 8: offenses so far. 1316 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,919 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Lawrence gets three sacks in the game, four 1317 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 4: quarterback hits, and then that play at the end. He 1318 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 4: is an all pro Yes, yes, and Brian Burns makes 1319 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 4: He's had a couple plays this year. I know it 1320 01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 4: hasn't been every week, but in their two wins he 1321 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 4: has made game changing plays that led to that win. 1322 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 4: So the Seahawks go for it on a fourth and 1323 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,000 Speaker 4: one from their own thirty five in the fourth quarter, 1324 01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 4: and Burns comes like a bat out of hell, untouched, 1325 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 4: but just reads the play, explodes and prevents Gino Smith 1326 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 4: from doing anything gets it. Did he get the sacker? 1327 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 4: Did he just have the pressure on that play? I 1328 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 4: can't even remember either way. It sets up a short 1329 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 4: field goal drive for the Giants to go up two scores. 1330 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 4: I thought that was going to be the end of it, 1331 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 4: but this being the NFL in twenty twenty four. 1332 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,040 Speaker 6: That was at the end of it. 1333 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 7: And also the Giants offense in terms of a breakout game, 1334 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,480 Speaker 7: Tyron and Tracy had twelve carries coming into this game, 1335 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 7: ultimately goes eighteen carries for one hundred. 1336 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 6: And twenty nine yards. 1337 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 7: The Giants sustained offense because with the frustrated the DK 1338 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 7: metcalf turnover, the turnover on downs. So Geno and company 1339 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 7: just wanted shots to get back out there, but in 1340 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 7: several opportunities they just couldn't get back out there because 1341 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 7: the Giants were staying on the field. I thought, you know, 1342 01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,480 Speaker 7: I know, we talked about quarterbacks a lot, and it's 1343 01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 7: in terms of QB wins, this is the best dimes 1344 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 7: game that I've seen. 1345 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 5: The interesting but even considering that there was. 1346 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 7: A third and four opportunity in the fourth quarter, get 1347 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 7: a first down, get out of there and get the win, 1348 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 7: and the Seahawks defense comes up with a pass break up, 1349 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,720 Speaker 7: you can there's you know, questions or whether it oh. 1350 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 5: That was a PI I thought on the Seahawks defender. 1351 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1352 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 5: So so they got lucky a little too in terms. 1353 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 7: Of it, But you don't you don't want to waste 1354 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 7: the good dimes games. They got a good dime game 1355 01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 7: with no Elak Neighbors and gotta win. 1356 01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, that's the key point. No Mo Lake Neighbors, 1357 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 8: Wondale Robinson, you know, makes a touchdown grab and Darius 1358 01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 8: Slayton has a really nice game eight for one twenty 1359 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 8: two and a touchdown. It was like in this one 1360 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 8: stretch where he just caught a deep ball, gets flagged 1361 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,320 Speaker 8: for tawning after signaling a first down, then makes another catch, 1362 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,840 Speaker 8: like suddenly they just exploded I don't know where, and 1363 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,560 Speaker 8: I'm like, oh my god. The Giants offense isn't just 1364 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 8: like competent. They have a little bit of life here. 1365 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 8: I don't know if they can sustain it over four quarters, 1366 01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 8: but when paired with the defense, they're a tough out. 1367 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 8: Now they're only two and three because of that rough 1368 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 8: start that they had, but I kind of like the 1369 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,920 Speaker 8: way they're trending, you know, not like that, you know, 1370 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 8: team of the year type stuff, but like sleeper, you. 1371 01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 5: Know, I said, I set off for them. 1372 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 4: I think on the previous show was damning with faint praise, 1373 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,760 Speaker 4: but they were like the second best one and three 1374 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 4: team in the league. Yeah, the I was like, they're 1375 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 4: actually playing like close to like the twentieth best team, 1376 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,240 Speaker 4: and so it makes sense to me that they are 1377 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 4: two and three. I'm noticing this is a trend around 1378 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 4: the NFL, especially the NFC, like everyone's just trending towards 1379 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 4: the middle. Forget that there's every team has won a 1380 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,120 Speaker 4: game spoiler alert in the NFL, almost every team in 1381 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 4: the NFL. In the NFC has won two games. Like 1382 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 4: everyone is at two and three or three and two 1383 01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:27,800 Speaker 4: for the most part. The Rams and a team we 1384 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 4: haven't talked about yet. The Panthers are the only team 1385 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 4: that are at one and four. And yeah, the Giants 1386 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 4: get it done on a day where they're missing Devin 1387 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 4: Singletary as well. I think if you don't pressure Daniel Jones, 1388 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 4: he's gonna be fine. And you know, we've talked about 1389 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 4: fraud watch occasionally for some teams. I don't think the 1390 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,600 Speaker 4: Seahawks are remotely there because their defense is going to travel. 1391 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 4: But the Seahawks defensive ratings after the first three weeks 1392 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,520 Speaker 4: look a little fraudulent because they got they got some 1393 01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 4: healthy players back today. They got Leonard Williams back, they 1394 01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:05,040 Speaker 4: got Nuosu back, they got their linebacker Jerome Baker back, 1395 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 4: and it was still pretty rough. 1396 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 5: To give up four. 1397 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 4: Hundred and twenty yards to the Giants, twenty four first 1398 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,560 Speaker 4: downs and get run on by Tyrone Tracy one hundred 1399 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,520 Speaker 4: and twenty nine yards. That is not a good performance 1400 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 4: by the Seahawks. So on a day that starts for 1401 01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 4: the Seahawks with one hundred and two yard fumble return 1402 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 4: touchdown return by ray Shawn Jenkins their safety. You get 1403 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 4: a free seven points that you don't expect to get there. 1404 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,880 Speaker 4: They still end up losing to the Giants. They are 1405 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 4: three and two, and like I mentioned, they're going to 1406 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,840 Speaker 4: be playing on Thursday night. We will take one more 1407 01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,040 Speaker 4: break here. We're going to get to the teams that 1408 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 4: are headed overseas this week. Like myself looking forward to 1409 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 4: this game in London, but first got a couple games 1410 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,400 Speaker 4: to talk about Stateside. 1411 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: Two tight ends, said I formation this time on second 1412 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: and five, Big is be the running back. 1413 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 5: They passed it to the left of Tanks. He cuts 1414 01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 5: it back to the middle of the field. 1415 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 17: That's good running Tank Bagsy the open forty fop forty 1416 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 17: thirty fop thirty twenty fifteen. 1417 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 2: Pen fuck touchdown. 1418 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:23,640 Speaker 16: Big big Sby has exploded for another score, sixty five yard. 1419 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 5: How good is that? In the gage E stim the lead. 1420 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 4: Oh, it is good to hear Frank Franzi's voice again, 1421 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 4: first time all year. 1422 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,040 Speaker 14: W j x L. 1423 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. Tank Bixby with his second impressive touchdown run of 1424 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 4: the year. I mean his nineteen yard run in the 1425 01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:46,240 Speaker 4: third quarter was an absolute thing of beauty as well. 1426 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 5: He has come to play this year one hundred and 1427 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 5: one yards. 1428 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,400 Speaker 4: And yet it came down to a whole lot of 1429 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 4: defensive collapse in the fourth quarter and Trevor Lawrence being 1430 01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:01,439 Speaker 4: asked to step up and potentially save his coaches job, 1431 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 4: like we'll we'll never know, but the walls were caving 1432 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 4: in on this Jaguars team. They hadn't won a game 1433 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,919 Speaker 4: all year. They're up thirty four to twenty after that run. 1434 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,120 Speaker 4: There's only five minutes left in the game, and somehow 1435 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 4: the Colts have two separate touchdown drives that go for 1436 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 4: seventy yards or more and forty five seconds or less. 1437 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 4: It was going to be one of the worst collapses 1438 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 4: that you've ever seen. And there was some whispers that 1439 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 4: if they don't win this game, who knows if Peterson 1440 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 4: even makes the trip to London. So Trevor Lawrence gets 1441 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,160 Speaker 4: the ball and this is gonna get a little forgotten 1442 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,600 Speaker 4: in this game. He throws a nine yard throw to 1443 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 4: Dearanis Johnson, a really nice catch by Luke Ferrell eleven yards, 1444 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 4: and then who's he trusted more over the years than 1445 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 4: Christian Kirk fourteen yards to him. He sets up a 1446 01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 4: Cam Little forty nine yard field goal, get out of 1447 01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,760 Speaker 4: there with a thirty seven to thirty four win. And 1448 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 4: it was really nice sook to just see them execute 1449 01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 4: offensively at the end of this game because they needed 1450 01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 4: every last yard, every last point, because their their defense 1451 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,120 Speaker 4: wasn't doing anything by the end. Twenty four fourth quarter 1452 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,560 Speaker 4: points for the Colts, but the Jaguars escape with their 1453 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 4: first victory of the year. 1454 01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:24,919 Speaker 8: Yeah, and on a day where I thought the best 1455 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 8: thing for the Jaguars would be their throwback uniforms, turns 1456 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,920 Speaker 8: out they put up thirty seven points in almost five 1457 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 8: hundred yards of offense, and Trevor Lawrence kind of figures 1458 01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 8: it out for the first time all year. Twenty eight 1459 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 8: out of thirty four, three seventy one, two touchdowns and 1460 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 8: a pick. That's the Trevor Lawrence to the Jaguars need, 1461 01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 8: especially if their defense can't stop in those bleed as 1462 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,760 Speaker 8: we learned in the fourth quarter and Tank bigsby thirteen 1463 01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,000 Speaker 8: for one oh one and two touchdowns. That is the 1464 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 8: offensive production we've been waiting to see from the Jaguars 1465 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 8: that we thought we might see. That we just hadn't 1466 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,040 Speaker 8: come close to seeing until Sunday. 1467 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:54,800 Speaker 6: What a day. 1468 01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,200 Speaker 8: Not gonna say it's gonna save it's it's gonna save 1469 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 8: Doug Peterson's job in the long run, because it's still 1470 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 8: not a great football team, but what a day. He 1471 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 8: knows a franchise and a fan base that desperately needed this. 1472 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:07,400 Speaker 5: You just stay in the picture. 1473 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:08,200 Speaker 6: You just never know. 1474 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 4: It's like the Saints this year. Just stay in the picture. 1475 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,280 Speaker 4: You never know if you have a good season. We 1476 01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 4: don't even know if they will. Doug marone, when he 1477 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 4: won a game as an interim head coach with the Jaguars, 1478 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,680 Speaker 4: I always remember this. That one game got him the 1479 01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,120 Speaker 4: full time job, got him a whole other contract in 1480 01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:25,080 Speaker 4: like years of just stay in the picture because you 1481 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 4: don't know. They played the Bears next week. They'll be 1482 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 4: underdogs in that game, but the Bears aren't an unbeatable team. 1483 01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 4: Then you got the Patriots after that. You stay in London. 1484 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 4: London saved their season last year, it turned it around. 1485 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,240 Speaker 4: So you just never know, and you can tell Doug 1486 01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,560 Speaker 4: Peterson absolutely felt it. This was him talking after the 1487 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,879 Speaker 4: game about a possible weight off Trevor Lawrence's shoulders. 1488 01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 18: Well, I think there's a weight off everybody's shoulders, right, Yeah, 1489 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:52,960 Speaker 18: not just him. 1490 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:54,920 Speaker 15: It's a weight off of my shoulders too. 1491 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,680 Speaker 8: Now you guys can get off my tail for at 1492 01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:57,240 Speaker 8: least a week. 1493 01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:02,679 Speaker 4: Everyone's laughing there, But I mean, I think Doug Peterson 1494 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,120 Speaker 4: might have had it, might have come into this game 1495 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,720 Speaker 4: feeling like he needed to win this game. 1496 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 7: And this was the best offensive performance, not even close 1497 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 7: the best offensive performance that the Jags have had other 1498 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,240 Speaker 7: than a weird trev decision firing a ball in a 1499 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 7: triple coverage to Brian Thomas Junior. A solid game as 1500 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:23,719 Speaker 7: he celebrated his twenty fifth birthday, and really it starts 1501 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 7: to feel like we're getting more. 1502 01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 6: Tank bigsby in here. 1503 01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 7: I know Travis etm was dealing with a shoulder injury 1504 01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:30,920 Speaker 7: in this game, but take big to be played great. 1505 01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 7: They run awesome this year, and it's one of those 1506 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,519 Speaker 7: things where you also got a spectacular performance because I 1507 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:40,200 Speaker 7: know the Colts made play after play after play, but 1508 01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,040 Speaker 7: number one overall pick Trey Von Walker had a strip sack. 1509 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,560 Speaker 6: Of Joe Flacco. He had the game ceiling sack of 1510 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 6: Joe Flacco as well. 1511 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,719 Speaker 7: So the Jags defense made plays as well, Josh hans 1512 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:52,680 Speaker 7: Allen was picked up and got the fumble recovery that 1513 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:53,719 Speaker 7: got them three points. 1514 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 5: That is getting pressure all day. 1515 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,080 Speaker 4: The funny thing is you look at Flacco's line thirty 1516 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 4: three for forty four for three fifth nine and three 1517 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 4: touch onns, and they were decent, Like for half this game. 1518 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,680 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, the old you know, Okay, the 1519 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 4: magic's gone. Like Flacco's just like missing some open throws. 1520 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 4: He's looking pretty old when he's under pressure. And yet 1521 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,840 Speaker 4: he got it all together at the end. Now I 1522 01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 4: can almost hear the Colts fans yelling at the podcast. 1523 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,520 Speaker 4: You know, do people yell at podcasts. 1524 01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1525 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:23,400 Speaker 8: I do. 1526 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,160 Speaker 4: Yes, They're like, can you mention the injuries? And yet 1527 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 4: it is fair to note the following Colts were not 1528 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 4: involved in this game. Anthony Richardson, Although at this point 1529 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,400 Speaker 4: I think Joe Flacco runs a cleaner offense overall. I 1530 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,000 Speaker 4: think that's fair to say, Like Josh Downs ends up 1531 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 4: nine for sixty nine in this game, you have those 1532 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 4: bombs to Pierce, Like, I don't know if that's a 1533 01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,880 Speaker 4: huge downgrade, but Jonathan Taylor, that's a huge, huge downgrade 1534 01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,720 Speaker 4: to Trey Sermon Quitty Pay is out, Kenny Moore is out. 1535 01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,439 Speaker 4: Their best cornerback Ebucom has been out all year, Taekwon 1536 01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 4: Lewis is now on injured reserve. The Forest Buckner is 1537 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,719 Speaker 4: on injured reserve. Juju Rents also out start their starting corner. 1538 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 4: And then they lost Will Fries who was filling in 1539 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:10,240 Speaker 4: at tackle to what looked like a very devastating leg 1540 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 4: injury that he had to be carted off. And so 1541 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:16,080 Speaker 4: I know a lot of teams have injuries, that's next 1542 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:20,080 Speaker 4: level injuries, and their offense is making it happen despite it, 1543 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,720 Speaker 4: and because hell, Joe Flacco just thrown it down there, 1544 01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 4: because get Pierces down there somewhere. 1545 01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:28,280 Speaker 5: Let's listen in. 1546 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:34,000 Speaker 4: Go Flacco in the shotgun formation, play action, good protection, He's. 1547 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 18: Got a feel for alt it thirty, he's in the twenty. 1548 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:42,720 Speaker 16: Down the far side, like ten touchdown. Why I like 1549 01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,760 Speaker 16: Pierce with fireworks to the fourth corner. He strikes again. 1550 01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 16: HiT's thirty four to thirty three, and the culture one 1551 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,840 Speaker 16: point away from time to game. 1552 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,439 Speaker 4: I just wanted to hear that crazy moment in the 1553 01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,160 Speaker 4: game at w f N. I Matt Taylor, Yeah, that 1554 01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 4: that was the moment. I was just like anything is possible. 1555 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what is happening in the Jaguars secondary. 1556 01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 4: The first long completion to Pierce, which was initially called 1557 01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,600 Speaker 4: a touchdown and then they ruled it wasn't was just 1558 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,599 Speaker 4: an absolute gorgeous dime. 1559 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 5: Flacco can still sling it. 1560 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 7: And Pierce had a one handed catch where he corrals 1561 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 7: the ball with one hand, actually knocks it away from 1562 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 7: a defender, and then catches it with his other hand. 1563 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,120 Speaker 6: Those are the three targets. He had. 1564 01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 7: Three targets, three catches, one hundred and thirty four yards, like, 1565 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,839 Speaker 7: can we get can we get Alec Pierce some more targets? 1566 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 4: That's true, But on the other hand, you could look 1567 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 4: at it like that's the best three target game maybe 1568 01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 4: in NFL history. 1569 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 5: I can't imagine. 1570 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,840 Speaker 4: Although Randy Moss had yeah, okay, okay, this is there, 1571 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 4: this is there, like put this up with that Alec 1572 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 4: Pierce get it done. The Cults are at two and three. 1573 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 4: That feels about right for them for where they've been 1574 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:51,120 Speaker 4: this season. The Texans open up, yeah, a two game 1575 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,400 Speaker 4: lead in the division, and the Jaguars, who have been 1576 01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 4: in four to one score games, finally get a victory. 1577 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:58,839 Speaker 5: Before heading to London. 1578 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 4: Would the Bear do the same and really get us 1579 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 4: hyped up for the next game At the hot Toddy. 1580 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 6: Safeties are back deep snap to Caleb Williams. 1581 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,360 Speaker 5: Good protection, lines it up for DJ Moore to the. 1582 01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 17: End zone, perfect prow, perfect catch, touchdown. 1583 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:15,799 Speaker 4: Bears. 1584 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 5: There you go, deep strike, get a thirty yard touchdown. 1585 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:22,120 Speaker 5: Twenty seven to seven Bears. 1586 01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,720 Speaker 17: Second connection to the day with Dj Moore and the 1587 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,440 Speaker 17: Bears are pulling away. 1588 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:28,440 Speaker 5: From the Panthers. 1589 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:33,160 Speaker 4: What Dj Moore goes five for one oh five, gets 1590 01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 4: two touchdowns And yeah, Caleb heard everyone talking like, Okay, 1591 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 4: it was nice to got the win last week. Let's 1592 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 4: be a little more explosive on offense. Maybe let's win 1593 01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:45,479 Speaker 4: a game where you don't have to sweat it out. 1594 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,679 Speaker 4: They did all of that thirty six to ten over 1595 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:54,400 Speaker 4: the Panthers. Caleb goes over three hundred yards, very efficient 1596 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 4: on only twenty nine attempts. And suddenly this Bears team 1597 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,280 Speaker 4: patrick kind of rounding into the team that they hoped 1598 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:02,640 Speaker 4: they would be. 1599 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,160 Speaker 7: And I'll go old football guy cliche time because it 1600 01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 7: looks so different now. The Chicago Bears can run the football. 1601 01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,560 Speaker 7: They look competent up front, Caleb is making checks to 1602 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:16,240 Speaker 7: run plays. They're positive plays. Caleb has time to do 1603 01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 7: the Caleb Williams thing, the reason that we saw him 1604 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 7: drafted number one overall, where he's giving guys. Heasi's in 1605 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,080 Speaker 7: the backfield, extending plays, getting first downs. 1606 01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,599 Speaker 6: Kind of going on adventures back there finding a receiver. 1607 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 7: Twenty nine, three hundred and four yards and two touchdowns. 1608 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,439 Speaker 7: DJ Moore had a pair of touchdowns in the revenge 1609 01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,320 Speaker 7: game against his old team that traded him away. Trade 1610 01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,680 Speaker 7: looking good for the Bears at this point. 1611 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,600 Speaker 5: Because that's an understand the. 1612 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:48,479 Speaker 7: Bears, but honestly right because you see the control of 1613 01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 7: Caleb Williams had against this game. I understand it's against 1614 01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 7: an underman Panthers team that lost Tordavian Clowney in this 1615 01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,320 Speaker 7: game that the pass rush really wasn't there. 1616 01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,720 Speaker 6: When they did get there, Caleb was making the miss. 1617 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,719 Speaker 6: But this was an all Bears game on offense. 1618 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 7: The defense gave their traditional Bears type performance, but they 1619 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 7: didn't need the heroics. Like Jakwan Brisker had an incredible hit. 1620 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:08,920 Speaker 14: Wow. 1621 01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, worried about both him and Tommy Trimble because their 1622 01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 7: heads kind of ran into each other. Neither player was 1623 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,400 Speaker 7: intending to make helmet to helmet contact, but it's just 1624 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:18,480 Speaker 7: one of those situations. 1625 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 6: Forced to fumble there, but they didn't need it that. 1626 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,439 Speaker 4: It's also I'm glad you shouted out that Brisker play 1627 01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,720 Speaker 4: when people say like there's not physical football anymore in 1628 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 4: the NFL, Like I present to you Jaquan Brisker. 1629 01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 5: There is kind of no one like Jaquon Brisker right now. 1630 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,280 Speaker 5: He is very Bob. 1631 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 4: Sanders to me, and that's cool to have to have 1632 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 4: different flavors. This Bears defense is showing what really good 1633 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:43,880 Speaker 4: defense is going to do. And they haven't been a 1634 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,800 Speaker 4: great defense took They've been a top ten defense, but 1635 01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 4: they haven't been like, hey, we're going to dominate. 1636 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 5: But when you play a team that's a little under 1637 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 5: man like the Panthers, they dominated. 1638 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, on paper, this fell like a game that was 1639 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,240 Speaker 8: going to be a get right game for the Bears 1640 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 8: on both sides of the ball and really a come 1641 01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 8: back to Earth game for Andy Dalton and the Panthers 1642 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,040 Speaker 8: because of that Bears defense, because of the defense that 1643 01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,519 Speaker 8: I think is just like quietly ascending and people aren't 1644 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 8: quite paying attention to him because they're focused too much 1645 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,720 Speaker 8: on Caleb Williams in his first month and a half 1646 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 8: of his NFL career. But they've been solid, and this 1647 01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 8: is the type of game where they prove, Look, we 1648 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 8: are the superior unit against this offense, and we're gonna 1649 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 8: prove it. We're gonna make Andy Dalton, you know, throw 1650 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,280 Speaker 8: an interception, only throw for one hundred and thirty six 1651 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 8: yards Like that on paper, right there is like, Okay, 1652 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,200 Speaker 8: that's what I expected from them. But what I didn't expect. 1653 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,240 Speaker 8: What I'm really excited to see from the Bears is 1654 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 8: that DeAndre Swift was able to run the ball effectively. 1655 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,080 Speaker 8: And it wasn't just him for two weeks in a row. 1656 01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 8: You know, last week it was like a monumental moment 1657 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,840 Speaker 8: when he burst through the line and sport touchdown. It 1658 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 8: really was right, it was It was because it just 1659 01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,560 Speaker 8: hadn't happened for them prior. Now they can kind of 1660 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 8: protect Caleb even when he's under pressure. Today he went 1661 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,120 Speaker 8: five for eight for ninety eight yards. Had to pass 1662 01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 8: already a one zero, five point two. Like once the 1663 01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,680 Speaker 8: running game opens up, it gives your offensive line a 1664 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,280 Speaker 8: little bit of a breather because, look, we are allowed 1665 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 8: to actually run block because all offensive lineman want to 1666 01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:55,680 Speaker 8: run block, they don't want to pass blocked. And when 1667 01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 8: they have to pass block, they'll be a little bit 1668 01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 8: better at it because they're not spending the entire game 1669 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:00,600 Speaker 8: doing it and picking up blitz. So this is the 1670 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,640 Speaker 8: front that they needed to play without Jadavian Clowney to 1671 01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 8: really get right. Caleb goes for over three hundred and 1672 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,040 Speaker 8: Bears fans have to be feeling. 1673 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:07,240 Speaker 5: I know. 1674 01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,160 Speaker 8: I have a friend who's a diehard Bears fan who 1675 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,320 Speaker 8: was lighting my phone up afterwards just being send me 1676 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,120 Speaker 8: a little fingernail paint emoji like, oh, Bears went on 1677 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,800 Speaker 8: a Sunday, Oh, you know that type of thing in 1678 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 8: confidence right now. 1679 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 4: Well, he also knows zero Browns fan, so he's punching down. 1680 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 4: I don't think that's nice of him to do as 1681 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,519 Speaker 4: a fan. A come back to Earth game for the Panthers, 1682 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 4: who I think kind of took a moral victory out 1683 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,120 Speaker 4: of last week somewhat, and now Jalen Kocher was their 1684 01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,840 Speaker 4: leading receiver on the game. It's just disappointing because you're 1685 01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,880 Speaker 4: getting Deontay Johnson and Xavier get involved so much more 1686 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,600 Speaker 4: a week ago, and with Dalton and Dalton kind of 1687 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:43,559 Speaker 4: had to come back to Earth too in his revenge game. 1688 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you got like a long touchdown run by 1689 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 4: Harvard to start the story to make it seven to nothing, 1690 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 4: and you're thinking, oh, this is going to be frisky. 1691 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,360 Speaker 4: But Dalton ends up with one hundred and thirty six 1692 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,160 Speaker 4: yards and a touchdown on twenty eight attempts, and Bryce 1693 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 4: Young ends up coming in in garbage time and having 1694 01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 4: a drive that ends with a sack. At some point 1695 01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,920 Speaker 4: they're going to ask the questions, when does Bryce Young 1696 01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,600 Speaker 4: come back? I don't think that time is now, but 1697 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,759 Speaker 4: I did see an article on the Athletic actually asking 1698 01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 4: that question, which is interesting to. 1699 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,760 Speaker 7: Be well, the answer is late in garbage time again, 1700 01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,200 Speaker 7: right at some point they mean, like to start the game. 1701 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 5: I think that will happen. They're one and four. Feel 1702 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:21,320 Speaker 5: feels darker than most. 1703 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 4: There are a few teams now that we can kind 1704 01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,800 Speaker 4: of look around the league and we're going to talk 1705 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 4: about uh one of them coming up that one and four. 1706 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,320 Speaker 4: It's already feeling like there's not much light at the 1707 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 4: end of the tunnel for the Panthers. That is not 1708 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 4: true about whoever was going to win the AFC West 1709 01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 4: battle between the Broncos and the Raiders. Because the winner 1710 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,479 Speaker 4: of that game was going to have a winning record 1711 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 4: through five weeks of the season. 1712 01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 5: Let's find out who it was. 1713 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,800 Speaker 13: Minshew under center, Minshew with a playfake rolling to his left, 1714 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:53,280 Speaker 13: now floats one two high. 1715 01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:56,120 Speaker 5: It's going to be intercepting. Not to go line down 1716 01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 5: the west sideline, intercepting. This is passer ten's going. 1717 01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:05,280 Speaker 2: To House College twenty five, twenty fifteen, ten to five touchdown. 1718 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,959 Speaker 5: Ka Dave Logan. 1719 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,960 Speaker 4: There was a penalty on that play, so then there 1720 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:15,719 Speaker 4: was confusion, but it ends up counting. 1721 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:16,240 Speaker 5: Yes. 1722 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 4: Patrick certain has one of the defining plays of his 1723 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 4: career and absolutely a game changing play. If you listen 1724 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 4: to that highlight and you didn't know who won, you 1725 01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,800 Speaker 4: might have thought, oh, it's Gardner. Minshew's gonna throw a 1726 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 4: touchdown to go up seventeen to three in a game 1727 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,920 Speaker 4: that there's been almost no offense. Certain turns that around. 1728 01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:42,879 Speaker 4: Pick six ties the game at ten, and the Broncos 1729 01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,080 Speaker 4: role from there. They end up winning thirty four to eighteen. 1730 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:51,160 Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew gets benched in this game. He struggled, and 1731 01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,400 Speaker 4: I think he just had his feelings hurt because Patrick 1732 01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 4: Claybon in the newsroom was just cackling that he thought 1733 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,439 Speaker 4: this was the worst threat he's seen in the entire season. 1734 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:05,080 Speaker 6: It's tough to make it because it's a fourteen point swing. 1735 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:08,599 Speaker 7: Yes, Pat Tutan is on top of Rock Bowers ready 1736 01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,000 Speaker 7: to make a tackle at the one yard line. 1737 01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, like that's what patstan is thinking. 1738 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 7: And Gardner Minshew airmails, I understand there's a defender in 1739 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,680 Speaker 7: his face, but in defensive Jordan Love defensive Will Levis, Like, 1740 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 7: there's a player who has the potential of scoring a 1741 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,160 Speaker 7: touchdown instead the other team scores a touchdown. 1742 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:26,439 Speaker 6: Like that was the swing on this play. 1743 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 7: Like he threw the ball the only spot on the 1744 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,200 Speaker 7: planet where the absolute worst thing possible could happen. 1745 01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 6: That's why it's the watity. 1746 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,320 Speaker 4: To me to that put that on the worst throw 1747 01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,200 Speaker 4: of the year real, And we're going to bring it 1748 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 4: up again at the meeting this week to see if 1749 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,760 Speaker 4: that can officially become a thing. 1750 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:45,439 Speaker 5: I guess you're right. 1751 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,160 Speaker 6: Fullie Rodger turns his campra Yeah. 1752 01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:47,640 Speaker 5: I hope so. 1753 01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:51,599 Speaker 4: I It was a tough moment, and it's crazy how 1754 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,280 Speaker 4: there was just like nothing for the Raiders after that. 1755 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,599 Speaker 4: Christian Wilkins and Max Crosby were getting after it early 1756 01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 4: in this game, and then Wilkins left with an injury, 1757 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,600 Speaker 4: and after that there just wasn't much going on defensively 1758 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 4: for the Raiders. Bo Nicks I thought played well in 1759 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,640 Speaker 4: the second half of this game. He was set up 1760 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,800 Speaker 4: in positions to succeed. Javonte Williams ends up with sixty 1761 01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,479 Speaker 4: one yards on the ground. He leads the team in 1762 01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:18,479 Speaker 4: receiving with fifty, So that lets you know, like it 1763 01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:22,479 Speaker 4: wasn't a lot of huge plays from the Broncos passing attack, 1764 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,040 Speaker 4: but you don't you do expect that. And one thing 1765 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,080 Speaker 4: I will give Knicks credit for is that he is 1766 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,920 Speaker 4: tough to sack, so he avoided some sacks, had one 1767 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,479 Speaker 4: positive rushing play, but mostly just avoided mistakes. And they 1768 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:37,960 Speaker 4: took over right now, like they're playing just good enough 1769 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 4: on offense and their defense is just a lot to 1770 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,919 Speaker 4: deal with. They got Gardner Minshew benched, and Aidan O'Connell 1771 01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,640 Speaker 4: comes in and played worse frankly than Minshew did. 1772 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 5: I mean, Minshew moved the ball all day. 1773 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 4: He had the two interceptions, so I get why he 1774 01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,799 Speaker 4: was benched, but he's looked okay. This year, and O'Connell 1775 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 4: did not look okay playing in place of minshew. And 1776 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,880 Speaker 4: we'll see who's the quarterback next week in Vegas. But 1777 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,320 Speaker 4: does it really matter, Nick Cook? 1778 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 5: Do you think now? 1779 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 8: It's Unfortunately, it's bringing to life my biggest fear when 1780 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 8: they played that preseason game that was supposed to decide 1781 01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,439 Speaker 8: the quarterback competition and they were both awful, and Antonio 1782 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 8: Pierce couldn't even get to the press conference and make 1783 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 8: a decision in that moment because he knew they were 1784 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,080 Speaker 8: both awful. This is the realization of that. Unfortunately for 1785 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:24,840 Speaker 8: the Raiders, who are coming off of a high of 1786 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,400 Speaker 8: getting a win, a low scoring win last week, and 1787 01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:31,240 Speaker 8: then getting smoked by a division rival. This Prago's defense 1788 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,640 Speaker 8: is for real guys. You know, look, you gave up 1789 01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,760 Speaker 8: twenty six points in your season opener, but since then 1790 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 8: you gave up thirteen on a weird loss to the 1791 01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 8: Steelers in which he had no offense. Since you've made 1792 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 8: trouble for Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield and now both Gardner, 1793 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,600 Speaker 8: Minshew and O'Connell, which is obviously a step down for 1794 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 8: the other two. But it just tells me that no 1795 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,600 Speaker 8: matter where you are road or home. This defense is 1796 01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,439 Speaker 8: playing well, it's gonna be a problem for every team 1797 01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 8: that plays against them this year. And it propelled them 1798 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 8: to victory. And it gave Bo Nix, who is about 1799 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 8: as predictable as the weather in Northeast Ohio this time 1800 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 8: of year when it comes to him playing on Sunday, 1801 01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,720 Speaker 8: gave him, you know, the patty he needed to be 1802 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,679 Speaker 8: able to, you know, just kind of dot the field 1803 01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 8: underneath and you know, work within the system and come 1804 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 8: away with a win. So another good win for them. 1805 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 8: They wore gorgeous throwbacks. It was a throwback. Oh yeah, well, 1806 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,240 Speaker 8: hey man, there's not much I like more than a 1807 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,200 Speaker 8: nice win and a good set of throwback uniforms. 1808 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:23,680 Speaker 4: Okay, So that pick six, which which was fantastic, was 1809 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,320 Speaker 4: you know, over one hundred yards. It's the first time 1810 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,240 Speaker 4: in NFL history that we've had a week with more 1811 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:33,040 Speaker 4: than two one hundred yard returns. And not only did 1812 01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 4: that happen, they happened about five minutes apart, and they 1813 01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 4: happened by a defender wearing the number two, So that 1814 01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 4: that's a lot that happened in a short amount of time. 1815 01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,000 Speaker 4: It was fun in the newsroom this Broncos defense is 1816 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 4: making it that way. And you look at the score, 1817 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,400 Speaker 4: it's thirty four points. The Broncos only had two hundred 1818 01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 4: and eighty nine yards in this game, Like, how does 1819 01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 4: that exactly happen? It happens with a twenty six yard 1820 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,479 Speaker 4: field goal drive in the first half and then a 1821 01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,639 Speaker 4: thirty eight yard field goal drive in the first half. 1822 01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,639 Speaker 4: So over their first like seven possessions, all they had 1823 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,560 Speaker 4: was two short field goal drives and five funds. And 1824 01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 4: to your point about the defense, Nick, like that's a 1825 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,639 Speaker 4: defense letting their offense eventually catch up to the game, 1826 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,240 Speaker 4: and even then they were set up on short fields. 1827 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:18,720 Speaker 4: The touchdown drives were only for fifty thirty nine and 1828 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 4: fifty eight yards, which is just outstanding field position, which 1829 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,440 Speaker 4: came from the great defense, which came from the turnovers. 1830 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,679 Speaker 4: Zach Allen had six quarterback pressures in this game, another sack. 1831 01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:31,720 Speaker 4: He is in all I keep saying all pro, all 1832 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,160 Speaker 4: pros tough, but he's in the mix for all Pro 1833 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,760 Speaker 4: and he's certainly had a Pro Bowl season. And then 1834 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 4: Riley Moss, who teams want to pick on because he's 1835 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,000 Speaker 4: the other one opposite thirteen, is playing better every week 1836 01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 4: and had an awesome interception in this game, a really 1837 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,720 Speaker 4: athletic play there, and the Broncos are frisky at three 1838 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:51,080 Speaker 4: and two. 1839 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:55,160 Speaker 5: You know who else is frisky but bow Knicks. I mean, 1840 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,120 Speaker 5: what did you think of that? 1841 01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,599 Speaker 4: Bow Knicks Sean Payton back and forth barking at each 1842 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 4: other the sidelines. 1843 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,320 Speaker 7: I think, and honestly, because Bo Nicks was joking after 1844 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:06,439 Speaker 7: the game, they're like, what was said? He said, I 1845 01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 7: love you well. I think folks are kind of poopooing this. 1846 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,640 Speaker 7: I think that's the right reaction. Like all sorts of 1847 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:18,200 Speaker 7: things happen. There's helmet communication, there's discernment, there's agitation because 1848 01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,880 Speaker 7: Bo has Troy Franklin open for a touchdown and they 1849 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,560 Speaker 7: don't connect in the end zone there. I think sometimes 1850 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,200 Speaker 7: things just get hot, somebody says something cross something. 1851 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,639 Speaker 4: I just like the body language because he was barking 1852 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,920 Speaker 4: at Sean Payton, and if I was choosing like which 1853 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 4: player or I mean, which person like kind of bowed 1854 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:40,920 Speaker 4: down a little more like bow Knicks was like in it, 1855 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,840 Speaker 4: and Sean Payton was kind of like, whoa man, this 1856 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,040 Speaker 4: guy is serious. Let's listen to Sean Payton after the game. 1857 01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 19: It's part of the deal. Listen last year, all of 1858 01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,120 Speaker 19: a sudden, I was, It's just there's still a little 1859 01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 19: bit of Ferrist Bueler in this player that we got 1860 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,760 Speaker 19: to get rid of, all right, talking about bo and 1861 01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,240 Speaker 19: I love him to death and so sometimes it's my 1862 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,280 Speaker 19: love language. All right. 1863 01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 5: Wait, I don't get the Ferris Bueler reference. 1864 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,400 Speaker 6: He's he's taking a day off. That's what Romeo Dops did. 1865 01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he talking about Ferris Bueler. 1866 01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:14,400 Speaker 12: He was. 1867 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 8: He was, you know, kind of a smart ass of 1868 01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 8: a kid, like, you know, he's taking the day off 1869 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 8: of school and he's going around giving you all this 1870 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 8: life advice. 1871 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:21,639 Speaker 5: But I need to get more context. 1872 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 4: Though then the follow up from that reporter needed to 1873 01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,519 Speaker 4: be like, what do you mean Ferris Bueler? I needed 1874 01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,920 Speaker 4: more context. Someone's got to explain it to me, but 1875 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,120 Speaker 4: I frankly needed more. All right, let's go to the 1876 01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:37,400 Speaker 4: final game of the game day. I know it's your game, Nick, 1877 01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 4: but probably the less set about this game, the better. 1878 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:44,720 Speaker 20: Seconds left from Miyat He's thirty six short motion by 1879 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 20: Douglas from the left. The snap is back to percent, 1880 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,680 Speaker 20: dropping back look into throat. He steps to his right. 1881 01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:50,519 Speaker 20: He sets up he. 1882 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 17: Fires down the little for Henry makes the catch on 1883 01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:56,519 Speaker 17: to ten. No, there's only three seconds or two seconds left. 1884 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 17: I'm not gonna have enough time to get another snap off. 1885 01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,160 Speaker 17: That's the why I haven't even win it by the 1886 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,240 Speaker 17: fifteen to ten final. It's the worst loss since Tom 1887 01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 17: Brady left the Patriots. 1888 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:12,960 Speaker 4: Oh, Scott Zolac, that's the first time I heard it. 1889 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:15,720 Speaker 4: I just said, get me Zolac on this, and I 1890 01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:17,240 Speaker 4: figured it'd be great. 1891 01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:17,680 Speaker 6: And it was. 1892 01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:20,800 Speaker 4: It was even greater than I imagine. That was Bob 1893 01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 4: Soci on WBZ with Scott Zolac. Fifteen to ten. The 1894 01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,960 Speaker 4: Dolphins win the game, and look, I don't want to 1895 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,639 Speaker 4: shortchange the Dolphins victory because Dolphins fans will. 1896 01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:35,160 Speaker 5: Be like, you gave us no time. You're just miserable 1897 01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,880 Speaker 5: that the Patriots lost. And no, I didn't. I didn't 1898 01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,599 Speaker 5: even watch this game. 1899 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,479 Speaker 4: You explained to me what can be taken from it 1900 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,639 Speaker 4: from a positive Miami Angle shocked. 1901 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:46,720 Speaker 5: I mean it for I mean it for real, for real. 1902 01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,080 Speaker 8: I mean I wanted to talk about Zolac and his 1903 01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,760 Speaker 8: recency protected worst losses than this. Yeah, okay, that's the 1904 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,639 Speaker 8: worst losses than this, and is Don Brady left. Let's 1905 01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,680 Speaker 8: let's keep it real. Here is Zolac. But no, the 1906 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 8: Dolphins pretty much everything that could go wrong went wrong 1907 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 8: for them in this game. They had a long snapper 1908 01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 8: snap a grounder to their kicking unit to try to 1909 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:07,280 Speaker 8: kick a field goal that didn't work. They had a 1910 01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,479 Speaker 8: missed kick as well, pretty short kick that went off 1911 01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,600 Speaker 8: the upright. Seemed like everything they try to do just 1912 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 8: didn't work well, but eventually they started to figure it out. 1913 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,120 Speaker 8: In the second half, they put together a couple of 1914 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 8: field goal drives and by the fourth quarter, when the 1915 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,559 Speaker 8: game was within five point we actually it was within 1916 01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,120 Speaker 8: one point ten to nine. Riveting moment they decide, you 1917 01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:27,080 Speaker 8: know what, We're actually gonna pound the run and it's 1918 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 8: gonna work. Because most of the day was dominated by 1919 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,800 Speaker 8: the Patriots ground attack. No, it's Jalen Wright for a 1920 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 8: game plus ten Rahee mostered for a game of eighteen. 1921 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,439 Speaker 8: Another Jaylen Wright carry, and then they get down by 1922 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,760 Speaker 8: the goal line and who finishes it off none other 1923 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,200 Speaker 8: than the fullback alec Ingold because fullbacks are people too, 1924 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,439 Speaker 8: and he got the end zone to give them the lead. 1925 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,439 Speaker 8: Tyler Huntley up and down better than he was the 1926 01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,519 Speaker 8: week prior, still missed some throws, still looked a little 1927 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 8: half hazard in the pocket. But I mean they won 1928 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,080 Speaker 8: the game in a game that they should win, because 1929 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,360 Speaker 8: the Patriots are not a good football team. I hate 1930 01:28:57,400 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 8: to say it. Look Jacoby President as tough as nails, 1931 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,680 Speaker 8: and God, he deserves a medal after the end of 1932 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 8: the season for however long he plays, because he gets 1933 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,280 Speaker 8: clobbered every week, and he got crushed plenty in this game, 1934 01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 8: but he keeps standing there and throwing the ball. He 1935 01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,880 Speaker 8: also finished with one hundred and sixty yards, and most 1936 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,320 Speaker 8: of those yards came in the fourth quarter. He actually 1937 01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:15,800 Speaker 8: threw a touchdown pass that was ruling complete because Jalen 1938 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,519 Speaker 8: pul didn't get the other foot and bounds in the 1939 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,680 Speaker 8: back of the end zone. That would have given them 1940 01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:19,400 Speaker 8: Patriots to win. 1941 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,640 Speaker 5: But that was bad. That was a bad throw, wasn't it. 1942 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 5: I mean, if he was it was a little high. 1943 01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 8: He was wide open there he puts If. 1944 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,840 Speaker 4: He puts that on pop, they take the lead there 1945 01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:31,599 Speaker 4: with a very little, very little time remaining. I bet 1946 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 4: Zolac had a great reaction to that one. Let's actually 1947 01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 4: listen to more Zolac. I don't know what this is 1948 01:29:37,320 --> 01:29:39,680 Speaker 4: but Eric just says, we've got more zolac, so this 1949 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:40,160 Speaker 4: should be fun. 1950 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:41,679 Speaker 6: Irobaly keeps going, it's. 1951 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 18: The worst loss since Tom Brady left the Patriots, and 1952 01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:50,760 Speaker 18: there puts a bats this team in excuse but loose, 1953 01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,200 Speaker 18: and this team at all one o'clock on a Sunday, 1954 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 18: we get a quarterback off the street to come in 1955 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 18: here and peat. You put stop the run, your p 1956 01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 18: you're slot, and he can't move the ball. You're never 1957 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,880 Speaker 18: gonna win games, score ten points and until you're ready 1958 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,280 Speaker 18: to make decisions to change it, it's gonna be what 1959 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 18: it is. And maybe you started looking at tackles at 1960 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 18: the top of the draft next year. 1961 01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:14,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's what's he wanted them to do? 1962 01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 7: Like if there were starter tackles that were available right 1963 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,479 Speaker 7: now the Patriots, I guess what are the Browns would 1964 01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 7: have gone and gotten them. 1965 01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,800 Speaker 4: There's nobody there right and the guys that are there 1966 01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:26,639 Speaker 4: got hurt. I think you could question the play calling 1967 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 4: in this game. Thirty four passes for the Patriots, averaging 1968 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 4: four point seven yards per pass, and I'm sure even 1969 01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,640 Speaker 4: lower if you you know, per passing play, if if 1970 01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,519 Speaker 4: you count the sacks, whereas they ran the ball nineteen 1971 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,560 Speaker 4: times seven point nine yards per run. This is a 1972 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,120 Speaker 4: rare game. And yes, you mentioned the Dolphins ran the ball. Well, 1973 01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:47,280 Speaker 4: that's what Mike McDaniel made his money off. That's how 1974 01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:49,360 Speaker 4: he got the head coaching job was from the running game. 1975 01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 4: And they run for one ninety one in this game. 1976 01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,120 Speaker 4: So that Patriots defense really hasn't been too stout and 1977 01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,240 Speaker 4: that's what they were known for forever. But eventually they 1978 01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:01,960 Speaker 4: broke down after a whole lot of punts. And hey, 1979 01:31:02,040 --> 01:31:04,680 Speaker 4: you never know, Dolphins stay alive at two and three, 1980 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,400 Speaker 4: Patriots at one and four. Anything more from you shook 1981 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:08,920 Speaker 4: on this one. 1982 01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,240 Speaker 8: The Patriots offensive line is terrible, but we've talked about 1983 01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:15,840 Speaker 8: that already. I mean the interior, Oh my god, they 1984 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,559 Speaker 8: just get blown up. Zach Sealer had a field day 1985 01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,120 Speaker 8: against this interior. 1986 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 6: It was bad. 1987 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:23,600 Speaker 5: Zach Seeler is a great ballplayer. 1988 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:27,960 Speaker 4: And yes, the pressure percentage for the Dolphins on this 1989 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,880 Speaker 4: day fifty one percent. I didn't even I didn't know 1990 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,080 Speaker 4: what it was going to be before I started that sentence, 1991 01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,800 Speaker 4: but I just knew they would come through it for 1992 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,759 Speaker 4: me at at a hugely high rate fifty one percent, 1993 01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:39,559 Speaker 4: which is just yeah. 1994 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,719 Speaker 8: Brissette he's been pressured at a rate of fifty percent 1995 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:47,000 Speaker 8: or higher in three games this year. That is losing football, Scott, 1996 01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,240 Speaker 8: And you're not going to fix that overnight. No, But 1997 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,680 Speaker 8: I do think you should play Drake may win so 1998 01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:54,640 Speaker 8: he can get crushed too. I think he'd get rid 1999 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,320 Speaker 8: of the ball quicker and maybe and yeah, I mean 2000 01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 8: play football. I think playing football is a good way 2001 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:01,599 Speaker 8: to get better at playing football. 2002 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think's the only way to get better at 2003 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:04,200 Speaker 6: playing football, don't. 2004 01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 8: I don't know it is. 2005 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,960 Speaker 6: I got worse at playing football watching name. 2006 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:11,680 Speaker 7: I think actually getting involved in the actual game is 2007 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 7: probably gonna be good for his development because you can 2008 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:14,840 Speaker 7: actually develop. 2009 01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,800 Speaker 4: And I think it's coming soon. Wouldn't surprise me if 2010 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:22,960 Speaker 4: it is this week. That's it for Patrick's contribution to 2011 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:26,880 Speaker 4: the show. And what a contribution it was. Outstanding stuff. 2012 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,720 Speaker 4: Nick Shook and Eye will wrap up and go to 2013 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:35,280 Speaker 4: Sunday Night Cowboys Steelers. It was a late one four 2014 01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:36,040 Speaker 4: the ball game. 2015 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: Fourth and goal. 2016 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:40,599 Speaker 6: Prescott in the Guns snap his back, he has some time. 2017 01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 6: He throws it at the. 2018 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:46,760 Speaker 2: End zone until touchdown to Jail October on the left 2019 01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,400 Speaker 2: side of the end zone, crossing in front of the 2020 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,080 Speaker 2: Shawn Elliott with twenty seconds to play. 2021 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:59,200 Speaker 5: Goodness gracious me, Yeah, that's Brad Sham on k. 2022 01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:01,560 Speaker 1: L D. 2023 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:07,599 Speaker 4: One of the longest days in professional football history ends 2024 01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:12,880 Speaker 4: just before one am on the East Coast. Cowboys get 2025 01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 4: the win, twenty to seventeen. Dak Prescott on fourth down, 2026 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,600 Speaker 4: gets enough time, feels a. 2027 01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,800 Speaker 5: Little pressure from the right and just smooth shakes over 2028 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:25,360 Speaker 5: to the left. 2029 01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,560 Speaker 4: Good job by him, finds Jalen Tolvert, who had a 2030 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:33,280 Speaker 4: nice night on a play Nick Shook that decided who 2031 01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 4: was gonna win and who is gonna lose. It's one 2032 01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 4: of the things I love about football because based on 2033 01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:43,120 Speaker 4: the result of that single play, you were gonna get 2034 01:33:43,160 --> 01:33:46,360 Speaker 4: an entire week's worth of positivity in Dallas and a 2035 01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:50,400 Speaker 4: week's worth of negativity in Pittsburgh. And look, I think 2036 01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:53,880 Speaker 4: the Cowboys earned this one. Two big time drives at 2037 01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:57,640 Speaker 4: the end of this game. They ultimately almost doubled up 2038 01:33:57,680 --> 01:34:01,200 Speaker 4: the Steelers in terms of total yardage, and Dak Prescott 2039 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 4: gets a win in a night that you just thought 2040 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,800 Speaker 4: was gonna go the Steelers way because they won so 2041 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,679 Speaker 4: many games like this, but they didn't this time. 2042 01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:11,200 Speaker 5: Cowboys just a little bit better. 2043 01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:13,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I felt like they might have played Renegade a 2044 01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:15,080 Speaker 8: little too early for the fourth quarter in Pittsburgh, but 2045 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:16,200 Speaker 8: that's neither here nor there. 2046 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,320 Speaker 5: They got an interception on the drive that follows it, 2047 01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:19,559 Speaker 5: so it. 2048 01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,439 Speaker 8: Seemed like it was right yeah, Voodoo magic that song. 2049 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,240 Speaker 8: This was a night that was building toward being one 2050 01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,479 Speaker 8: of those doomsday Mondays in Dallas if they had not 2051 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,800 Speaker 8: completed that pass on fourth and goal, primarily because they 2052 01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,160 Speaker 8: got within half a yard of the end zone and 2053 01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,640 Speaker 8: nearly fumbled possession away on first down, and then by 2054 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:41,960 Speaker 8: the time they get to fourth down. You look back 2055 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,400 Speaker 8: at earlier in the game when the Cowboys had three 2056 01:34:44,439 --> 01:34:46,960 Speaker 8: trips to the red zone and only one of them 2057 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 8: produced points. Fumble, field goal, interception, three in a row, 2058 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:53,720 Speaker 8: all ended inside the Steelers twenty yard line. They only 2059 01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,000 Speaker 8: got three points out of it. They also had a 2060 01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,040 Speaker 8: blocked field goal. There were a lot of missed opportunities 2061 01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,000 Speaker 8: on the field, which explains why they nearly doubled them 2062 01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,200 Speaker 8: up in yards and yet they needed a touchdown in 2063 01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 8: the final seconds to win the game. But overall, you 2064 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 8: cannot overlook the fact that Dak Prescott dug deep and 2065 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 8: led two huge drives in that fourth quarter and you know, 2066 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,040 Speaker 8: a tip of the cap reco doubtle Man running way 2067 01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 8: harder than his measurables would suggest. A run game finally 2068 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 8: getting you over for the Cowboys, which they lacked in 2069 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,240 Speaker 8: the first month of the season. So a great win, 2070 01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,679 Speaker 8: overcoming some adversity on the road, a ninety minute delay 2071 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:27,360 Speaker 8: which can really wreck you, you know, just having to 2072 01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,519 Speaker 8: wait that extra time after getting all warmed up and 2073 01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:31,519 Speaker 8: everything else. So they battled back into a great job. 2074 01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:32,960 Speaker 5: Yeah it was ugly. 2075 01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,080 Speaker 4: The first half was six to three at halftime, and 2076 01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,479 Speaker 4: the field was still a little sloppy after the rain 2077 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,360 Speaker 4: and the lightning that yes, delayed this game for quite 2078 01:35:43,400 --> 01:35:46,760 Speaker 4: a bit, and yeah made it, I believe, about a 2079 01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:50,160 Speaker 4: fifteen and a half hour day of football if if 2080 01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,880 Speaker 4: you woke up like me on the West Coast, made 2081 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,040 Speaker 4: a little coffee, went out in the garage. The game 2082 01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:59,920 Speaker 4: started around six thirty am and it finishes a little 2083 01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,880 Speaker 4: before ten pm, so we almost got sixteen hours of football. 2084 01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,479 Speaker 5: And you know what, like that was a good amount 2085 01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:06,720 Speaker 5: for me. 2086 01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:07,439 Speaker 6: I liked it. 2087 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 4: I mean, when this game was slow, I was like, okay, 2088 01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,000 Speaker 4: let's move it along. But that was a fun fourth quarter. 2089 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:18,400 Speaker 4: The Cowboys like I said, go sixteen plays ninety five 2090 01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 4: yards that ends at the beginning of the fourth quarter. 2091 01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,920 Speaker 4: That's maybe their best touchdown drive of the entire season. 2092 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:26,040 Speaker 4: They get a stop, you think everything is going to 2093 01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,920 Speaker 4: be great, and then it's the interception that I mentioned. 2094 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,280 Speaker 4: Steelers have probably justin Fields his best drive of the night. 2095 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,280 Speaker 4: I think Fields has played out standing all year. Tonight 2096 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:41,599 Speaker 4: was maybe not his best night overall. They didn't really 2097 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,599 Speaker 4: get the running game going. They tried them on design 2098 01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,520 Speaker 4: runs early. But on that drive, you made good decisions, 2099 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 4: was accurate with the ball, gets it in for them 2100 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,439 Speaker 4: to take the lead. It's a four point lead, and 2101 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 4: that helps the Cowboys be more aggressive, and they timed 2102 01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:59,120 Speaker 4: it out perfectly. That was like a five minute drive 2103 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,040 Speaker 4: that ends with twenty seconds left, and yes, you would 2104 01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,200 Speaker 4: have liked it to be a little easier. When they 2105 01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:06,720 Speaker 4: get along the goal line, a Landon Roberts did his 2106 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:12,280 Speaker 4: best Troy Polamalo impression, flies over the line of scrimmage, 2107 01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:16,679 Speaker 4: gets his helmet right on Rico Daddle when he's carrying 2108 01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,760 Speaker 4: the ball trying to score the touchdown. And again, if 2109 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:22,839 Speaker 4: that ball just bounces differently on the turf, the Steelers 2110 01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:25,880 Speaker 4: recover and it's one of the greatest defensive plays of 2111 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 4: the entire season. Steelers win, but this time Dak Prescott 2112 01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,720 Speaker 4: Johnny on the spot is the one that recovers the 2113 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:35,679 Speaker 4: ball and ends up throwing the game winner to Tolbert, 2114 01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:37,960 Speaker 4: who had a nice night. Seven for eighty seven was 2115 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:40,759 Speaker 4: a bit of a theme other guys stepping up. Cavante 2116 01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,639 Speaker 4: Turpin was more active four for fifty in this game. 2117 01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:47,400 Speaker 4: You mentioned Dowdell Ferguson head seventy yards, So they spread 2118 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,719 Speaker 4: it around. They had more of a power rushing attack. Shook, 2119 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:52,519 Speaker 4: they said they we're going to give up on a 2120 01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:54,920 Speaker 4: little bit of that outside zone. Rico Daddle said, it's 2121 01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 4: taken a while for us to find our identity. This 2122 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,680 Speaker 4: worked out better for them and something for. 2123 01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:02,240 Speaker 8: The to build off. Yeah, and it was much needed 2124 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,680 Speaker 8: balance because look, I mean Dak three for three fifty two, 2125 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,720 Speaker 8: but he also threw for two interceptions to go along 2126 01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,320 Speaker 8: with his two touchdowns. Any offense is gonna better when 2127 01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:10,719 Speaker 8: you're balanced, when you have a threat on the ground 2128 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:12,880 Speaker 8: and in the passing game, and that was massive for 2129 01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,760 Speaker 8: them in those two fourth quarter drives. Is being able 2130 01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,280 Speaker 8: to run the ball with authority for positive games consistently 2131 01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,479 Speaker 8: and not getting stonewalled by the Steelers defense that we 2132 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,800 Speaker 8: know can be very good, and it was very good 2133 01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,200 Speaker 8: in the first half. They shut down one of the 2134 01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,599 Speaker 8: Cowboys trips to the red zone with a strip sack 2135 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:28,360 Speaker 8: of Dak Prescott stop their momentum in their tracks. But 2136 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 8: the Cowboys were able to figure it out. And you 2137 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,679 Speaker 8: know you talked about Ferguson, he made a huge catch 2138 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,800 Speaker 8: on third down, kind of pivoting outside, catching the ball 2139 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,120 Speaker 8: and then getting away from a defender for a massive 2140 01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:40,040 Speaker 8: first down to keep that drive alive. Because there were 2141 01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,439 Speaker 8: multiple instances in that last drive where the Cowboys were 2142 01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:44,639 Speaker 8: this close to stalling out, this close to being forced 2143 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:47,640 Speaker 8: into uncomfortable fourth down situations, and it wasn't until they 2144 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,719 Speaker 8: had that fourth and goal that they actually had to deliver. 2145 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,400 Speaker 8: And again a night where other guys that you typically 2146 01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,479 Speaker 8: don't mention made the contributions. Tollbart on the Dallas side, 2147 01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,360 Speaker 8: I mean Pittsburgh George Pickens was pretty quiet all night, 2148 01:38:58,360 --> 01:39:00,320 Speaker 8: and yet they still managed to put seventeen points on 2149 01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,519 Speaker 8: the board and hold this lead until the final minute. 2150 01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,960 Speaker 8: So every time, you know, every game we play is 2151 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,519 Speaker 8: not always going to feature the stars even if the 2152 01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,800 Speaker 8: stars the ones that attract the eyeballs, sometimes it's about 2153 01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:10,719 Speaker 8: the lesser known guys and that was definitely a theme tonight. 2154 01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pickens finally made a big play on that final 2155 01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,960 Speaker 4: touchdown drive, but otherwise was silent. They were running out 2156 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 4: these heavy personnel packages with two sometimes three tight ends 2157 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:22,240 Speaker 4: and he was not on the field for those plays, 2158 01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,360 Speaker 4: and so he actually had less routes run than Van 2159 01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:28,679 Speaker 4: Jefferson in this game. And Naje Harris is their leading 2160 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,560 Speaker 4: receiver with thirty five yards. They're going to need to 2161 01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 4: be better on offense. I think Fields has actually covered 2162 01:39:33,479 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 4: up a lot of offensive line and schematic deficiencies for 2163 01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,600 Speaker 4: this team, and it ended up showing up in this 2164 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:42,599 Speaker 4: game when Fields maybe wasn't quite as sharp. He throws 2165 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:44,879 Speaker 4: for one hundred and thirty one yards in two touchdowns. 2166 01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:48,960 Speaker 4: I think the he the second half actually was Nate 2167 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:52,479 Speaker 4: Herberg or Nick Herberg getting hurt, because yeah, he led 2168 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,040 Speaker 4: this game in pressures. Actually, he had more pressures than TJ. 2169 01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:55,320 Speaker 1: Watt. 2170 01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,840 Speaker 4: You mentioned that strip sack that was really a combined 2171 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,720 Speaker 4: effort between him and t. Watt, And once Herbig was 2172 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:05,559 Speaker 4: out of the game, they're sending extra attention to Watt, 2173 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 4: who wasn't quite as active, maybe wore down a little 2174 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:10,760 Speaker 4: at the end of that game and weren't quite as 2175 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:12,120 Speaker 4: deep on the defensive line. 2176 01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,519 Speaker 5: So the Cowboys gets done. Huge game. 2177 01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,160 Speaker 4: In terms of managing the season, their schedule coming up 2178 01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,080 Speaker 4: is tough. They were about to be two and three 2179 01:40:20,560 --> 01:40:23,439 Speaker 4: going against Detroit next week. That would have been rough 2180 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,880 Speaker 4: to deal with. Like there was a couple potential losses. 2181 01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:29,720 Speaker 4: This really just stems the tide, calms things down. Three 2182 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,160 Speaker 4: and two is fine in this NFC, where like I said, 2183 01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,320 Speaker 4: almost everyone has two wins or three wins. They've got 2184 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,720 Speaker 4: three and yeah, the Steelers fall back. That lead in 2185 01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:42,120 Speaker 4: the AFC North was gone quickly. They are now tied 2186 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:47,120 Speaker 4: with the Ravens at three in two and what a day, Chucky. 2187 01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,519 Speaker 8: I gotta say a shout out to Mike McCarthy, a 2188 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:54,880 Speaker 8: guy who has no infamous for screwing up clock management 2189 01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:58,120 Speaker 8: situations at the end of games, played it perfectly tonight. 2190 01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,639 Speaker 8: Good for you Mike back home, In case you didn't 2191 01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,120 Speaker 8: know by the broadcast, which reminded you about fifty times, 2192 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:05,400 Speaker 8: he's from Pittsburgh and he did a good job back 2193 01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:05,680 Speaker 8: at home. 2194 01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:09,760 Speaker 4: It's the new Jerome Bettis is from Detroit. But you're 2195 01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:11,479 Speaker 4: absolutely right, and it was in a game. By the way, 2196 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,679 Speaker 4: the Steelers could have desperately used those timeouts. Not only 2197 01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,160 Speaker 4: did they blow on right at the end when they 2198 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:19,880 Speaker 4: were trying to get together before the goal line played, 2199 01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,200 Speaker 4: but they blew a couple what they didn't really need 2200 01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 4: to earlier in the fourth quarter and had nothing left 2201 01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:28,080 Speaker 4: at the end to try to make a miracle drive 2202 01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:33,200 Speaker 4: that will do it for our show. Appreciate everyone who 2203 01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,519 Speaker 4: made it this far in the show. We will be 2204 01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,960 Speaker 4: back on Monday Night. This week is going to be 2205 01:41:38,200 --> 01:41:41,560 Speaker 4: a little bit different of a schedule. Nick's not with 2206 01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:44,479 Speaker 4: me Monday night, giving him the night off. Bridget Condon, 2207 01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:46,519 Speaker 4: Who's going to be with me on Channel five. If 2208 01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:48,719 Speaker 4: you're in the UK, watch me on Monday Night Football 2209 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 4: Monday Night. She's gonna run upstairs. Then we're gonna do 2210 01:41:51,720 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 4: Monday Night Football recap in the Chris Westling podcast studio. 2211 01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 5: Until then, you know, football's back.