Speaker 1: Look how he's only films to be buried with the
Speaker 1: new season. Hello and welcome to Films to be Buried with.
Speaker 1: We're back with a brand new season. My name is
Speaker 1: Brick Golstein. I'm a comedian and actor, a writer, director,
Speaker 1: a waite, and I love films. As roy T Bennett
Speaker 1: once said, pursue what catches your heart, not what catches
Speaker 1: your eyes. But on the other hand, do go see
Speaker 1: dungeons and dragons on her among thieves because it's really delightful.
Speaker 1: It's actually fantastic. Fair enough, good point, roy T Bennett.
Speaker 1: Well done. Every week I invite a special guests over.
Speaker 1: I tell them they've died. Then I get them to
Speaker 1: discuss their life through the films that meant the most
Speaker 1: of them. Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone,
Speaker 1: and even Cred Blamboles. But this week it's the brilliant comedian, actor, writer,
Speaker 1: novelist and movie star. It's Andy O Show. This week
Speaker 1: you can get the full season one of Shrinking on
Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus. You can also get at this point
Speaker 1: the first four episodes of ted Lasso season three, also
Speaker 1: on app on TV plus. Watch Him Love Him head
Speaker 1: over to the Patreon at patreon dot com forward slash
Speaker 1: Breck Goldstein, where you get an extra twenty minutes of
Speaker 1: chat with Andy. We talk about secrets, we talk about
Speaker 1: beginnings and endings. You also get the whole episode uncut
Speaker 1: and as a video. Check it out at Patreon dot
Speaker 1: com forward Slashbreck Goldstein. So I've missed you. I hope
Speaker 1: you're all well. Thanks for hanging around. I've started with
Speaker 1: this episode because Andy Oshow is amazing. I love this
Speaker 1: episode so much. She was a brilliant comedian, started out
Speaker 1: around the same time as me. She left comedy or
Speaker 1: certainly took a break from it to go on an
Speaker 1: amazing journey. She made huge decisions for her mental health
Speaker 1: and for her life and for her spiritual growth. You'll
Speaker 1: hear all about it on the episode. I think she's
Speaker 1: fucking brilliant. She's incredible, access, she's a movie star, she's
Speaker 1: all of it. Anyway, this episode is amazing. We recorded
Speaker 1: it on zoom. We're so lovely to talk to her,
Speaker 1: and I really think you're gonna love it. So thank
Speaker 1: you and welcome back. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty two of Films to be Buried with. Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried with. It is me
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by an actor,
Speaker 1: a writer, a novelist, a screenwriter, an award winner, a
Speaker 1: stand up comedian, an international liberal, a woman, a hero,
Speaker 1: a legend, a rising star, and soaring heights. She's here,
Speaker 1: She's real. Can you believe it? I can. I'm looking right.
Speaker 1: She's on the show. Please welcome. Is that the show?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh? What I mean? Can that be the
Speaker 1: whole show? Just that intro? That's it? And then just
Speaker 1: like we'll send out a PDF for a list of
Speaker 1: films or something like that. I mean, I'm done. It's
Speaker 1: not a bad idea little pdf. I mean, no one
Speaker 1: cares about the film. How are you, Andy, I'm very well.
Speaker 1: Thanks Brett Goldstein. How are you? I'm good Now. I'm
Speaker 1: in LA you're in England. We're recording this on zoom.
Speaker 1: I've got so many things to ask you, big things,
Speaker 1: because you, if I may say a fascinating I said it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's out there. Yeah, the truth is out
Speaker 1: And I sometimes think of you, if I may sort
Speaker 1: of like you're the George Harrison of the UK comedy scene, like,
Speaker 1: I think you started in comedy, you like sawed away,
Speaker 1: huge news, started TV, you know, and then it seemed
Speaker 1: it looked like you left it all to go on
Speaker 1: a spiritual quest, and I love that and I'm so
Speaker 1: fascinated about it. And then you suddenly you were Suddenly
Speaker 1: I suddenly saw you in a horror film, an American
Speaker 1: horror film turned out with a perfect American accent, and
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, what's happened? But on a spiritual
Speaker 1: Quest came out horror horror icon? What can we talk
Speaker 1: about this? And then I, who are you? Right? So
Speaker 1: I'm kind of but there's actually three of us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm one of three triplets. I mean, that's how triplets
Speaker 1: come anyway, isn't it. But that's really funny that that's
Speaker 1: that's what it looked like from the Yeah, I haven't
Speaker 1: discussed I haven't checked with other people if yeah, But
Speaker 1: I was always fascinating because you were, so I'm interested
Speaker 1: in people who are naturally very good at something and
Speaker 1: do very well, who then decided it's not making them.
Speaker 1: I assumed he didn't make you happy, or something was
Speaker 1: missing in it, and it's so interesting. Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I started as an actor and
Speaker 1: then I said to myself, like I wasn't getting any
Speaker 1: love kind of from the industry. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: a bit I was getting auditions, but I wasn't like
Speaker 1: landing any role. So I said, what can I do
Speaker 1: that will let me have a bit more control. I'm
Speaker 1: not waiting for someone else's approval before I can do
Speaker 1: the thing that I love. And then that's how I
Speaker 1: got into stand up And I think when I started,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I felt like it
Speaker 1: was a bit of a game. I was enjoying the
Speaker 1: game of it, like, oh that joke didn't work. What
Speaker 1: can I do to make it work? Oh? That worked?
Speaker 1: And then I moved that and like it was almost
Speaker 1: like this really interactive puzzle almost and so so yeah,
Speaker 1: so I really enjoyed it in the early days. And
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I got paid, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh, this has changed everything because now
Speaker 1: now yeah, because now there's a contract. Yeah, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? It's not about my puzzle. You
Speaker 1: can't lose the game, no, exactly exactly. I've been paid
Speaker 1: to win this yeah, and I remember going around going, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's me. I'm out. This is
Speaker 1: like about six months in, and you know, the people
Speaker 1: were like, you're not you You clearly love it, so
Speaker 1: you know you're not gonna You're not going to tap
Speaker 1: out now, and then I kept going and then it
Speaker 1: just it just blew up, Like I mocked the Week
Speaker 1: was the first thing that they were really the first
Speaker 1: people that backed me in in any meaningful way that
Speaker 1: sort of got me out there. And then it's sort
Speaker 1: of it's almost like that was the endorsement that other
Speaker 1: producers needed to go, oh no, we were gonna have
Speaker 1: you one air show before, but we always said yeah.
Speaker 1: So then yeah, it just sort of snowballed. And then
Speaker 1: I realized only recently that it was actually only a
Speaker 1: couple of years that I was doing all the panel
Speaker 1: shows and the Apollos and all that. And then round
Speaker 1: about the start of two thousand and twelve, so my
Speaker 1: first month the Week was beginning of two thousand and ten,
Speaker 1: and then round about two thousand and twelve, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm unhappy. Yeah, like, and that was probably because that
Speaker 1: year I did my second life at the Apollo. I
Speaker 1: did you know a couple of weeks probably, and you know,
Speaker 1: bach of other stuff, But I've never been more. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was the worst bout of depression I've ever had,
Speaker 1: and I have had it before. And yeah, so I
Speaker 1: did basically what you said. I took myself away and
Speaker 1: just had a little think about what do I really want?
Speaker 1: Because there was this big chasm opening up between who
Speaker 1: I was on stage. I even referred to her in
Speaker 1: the third person sometimes of like who that person is
Speaker 1: and who I am? The gap was getting bigger it.
Speaker 1: I didn't dress like her, I didn't talk like her.
Speaker 1: I didn't do you know what I mean? She was
Speaker 1: She was just someone I not only did I not recognize,
Speaker 1: but I just I didn't have the energy to be
Speaker 1: her anymore, do you know what I mean? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can. I ask you that was that like in
Speaker 1: terms of your sort of consciousness of it. Was it
Speaker 1: like you were just busy, busy, busy, busy, busy, and
Speaker 1: then like one thing happened and you were like, fuck,
Speaker 1: I'm unhappy? Or was it actually you were feeling consciously
Speaker 1: unhappy for a long time. It was more like it
Speaker 1: was a growing sense of something. But I didn't name it.
Speaker 1: And then actually I was on a call and I
Speaker 1: it's sort of like a well being cause kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and I came out of the other end of it.
Speaker 1: Everyone else is kind of euphoric at the end of
Speaker 1: this thing, and I was literally in despair and to
Speaker 1: the point where the facilitator kind of called me and
Speaker 1: called me in and he was just like, what's up,
Speaker 1: because you know, he was so used to people leaving
Speaker 1: this place, leaving this like weekend program in quite a
Speaker 1: sort of altered state and just like different perspective on
Speaker 1: the world. Now. I was just like, I think I
Speaker 1: might just I think I might be done with living,
Speaker 1: you know. So it was like it was really it
Speaker 1: was really bad. I had to stop working actually, and
Speaker 1: I had gigs booked in and actually I was gonna
Speaker 1: do you remember that they don't do it anymore, but
Speaker 1: that Channel four Great Almond Street, Yeah, like a million
Speaker 1: comedians I was. I was booked in to do that.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't do it. I you know,
Speaker 1: it was like every everything out of out of the
Speaker 1: diary because I was in such a Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't like I just it wasn't a hard, abrupt stop
Speaker 1: it was more like I it sort of petered out.
Speaker 1: So I came to the States. I went to the State.
Speaker 1: Should I say, I went to the States. And I
Speaker 1: still did some I was still doing gigs, but I
Speaker 1: had this feeling like I was coming I was running
Speaker 1: out of road as far as I was concerned, because
Speaker 1: you know what it was, Brett, It was I realized
Speaker 1: that I there was more to me than I was being.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I don't want to say allowed to do,
Speaker 1: but there was more to me than I could share
Speaker 1: through just being a stand up you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like creatively, there was more that I had to offer.
Speaker 1: So I just felt like that that's the end of
Speaker 1: that journey for now. It's not like I'll never go back.
Speaker 1: Maybe I will, maybe I won't, But it felt like
Speaker 1: at that point there wasn't anymore that I could do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was talking to you know, Luke Tilson.
Speaker 1: He said, well, you basically closed the game and then
Speaker 1: you got out, and it's kind of it's like, what
Speaker 1: more can I because now one you know, at that
Speaker 1: time and even still it was very difficult for somebody
Speaker 1: like me, a woman and black women to get their
Speaker 1: own vehicle and so you ended up in loads of
Speaker 1: other people's vehicles. But but but there's only so many of
Speaker 1: those that you can do before you're just it can
Speaker 1: be quite unsatisfying, you know what I mean, Like constantly
Speaker 1: the whole panel show carousel can get quite quiet, sort
Speaker 1: of frustrating if you feel like there's more that I
Speaker 1: could give than I'm being allowed to sort of express.
Speaker 1: Can I give you a theory I have about yeah? Please? Well,
Speaker 1: I wonder if particularly because you were sort of picked
Speaker 1: young as it were, as in fairly new, and it
Speaker 1: was like she's good, we should we should put her
Speaker 1: on TV that often TV comics. What happens in sort
Speaker 1: of mainstream TV comedy, I think is that persona's comedy
Speaker 1: persona has become too dimensional because it's much easier to
Speaker 1: do it in five minutes and three minutes in a
Speaker 1: one notes like he's the grumpy one, Like Jack d
Speaker 1: he's the grumpy one. There's Michael backdad, he's the push one.
Speaker 1: Like it's just you reduce that person to a sort
Speaker 1: of one attitude that is funny and great, But on
Speaker 1: TV they become often reduced to a kind of bite
Speaker 1: says mister man character. You know what I mean, and
Speaker 1: if you were early on finaled into this, you you
Speaker 1: were a person, and then you were like, no, you're
Speaker 1: a TV comic. Can we reduce you to your this
Speaker 1: and this and that's it? Yeah, And maybe that's where
Speaker 1: you felt, this isn't me. I want to express all
Speaker 1: this stuff. And I do believe stand up, busy up
Speaker 1: for me you can express anything, but not in broad
Speaker 1: mainstream TV. It's almost impossible. It's so rare to I
Speaker 1: can't really think of an example where you go, that
Speaker 1: was a really complicated you know what I mean, like
Speaker 1: a really fascinating character we just met. It's more like
Speaker 1: that was the angry one, that was the silly one,
Speaker 1: that was you know what I mean, that's really really
Speaker 1: wise And yeah, I can really see that as well.
Speaker 1: And I used to have these sort of sort of
Speaker 1: fantas Daniel Kits and type fantasies that oh, one day,
Speaker 1: maybe I could just write a show about what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking and feeling and not be censored or any And
Speaker 1: then I go, now, you got, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: because I I'd almost gasolate myself into thinking, oh, I
Speaker 1: have to do all these things. I have to do
Speaker 1: the panel shows, I have to do all these silly
Speaker 1: kind of panel show pilots that were really sometimes quite
Speaker 1: not humiliating, but like not gratifying really in any way,
Speaker 1: because I told myself, I had this belief that that
Speaker 1: was what I was supposed to be doing, do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? But actually taking myself away and
Speaker 1: made me realize, oh I can I can do whatever
Speaker 1: I want. There might be a cost, as in, you know,
Speaker 1: financially or intensive, I don't know, career progression or status
Speaker 1: or whatever, but sometimes for your mental health that cost
Speaker 1: is in fact always for your mental health, that cost
Speaker 1: is worth paying. Amazing. And so can you tell me
Speaker 1: a bit about the positive second half of that story
Speaker 1: of like going on your spiritual quest, Like at what
Speaker 1: point were you like, oh, I'm starting to feel like
Speaker 1: this is yeah, how you yeah going? So I guess
Speaker 1: those years in LA and I was sort of coming
Speaker 1: back to the u K. And I got myself a
Speaker 1: little kind of career coach who was talking me through
Speaker 1: my experiences because it was very it looks like I
Speaker 1: went off, you know, and then came back and got
Speaker 1: all these like whole fun roles in things. But actually
Speaker 1: there was a lot of soul searching a lot of
Speaker 1: like I remember having like skypes with my mom of
Speaker 1: like and saying to her, I know I meant to
Speaker 1: be here, but I don't know why. But more tears
Speaker 1: than that, she you know, she's desmate for me to
Speaker 1: come home, because it's just like, well, if you don't know,
Speaker 1: if you don't know why you're there or whatever, if
Speaker 1: you haven't, maybe that's not what you should be. But
Speaker 1: I just knew that I should be. And actually, looking back,
Speaker 1: what I realized the time was about was about shedding
Speaker 1: things that shackles basically that were holding me back creatively,
Speaker 1: finding my confidence to call myself an artist. I would
Speaker 1: have been embarrassed to say that at the time that
Speaker 1: I left, you know what I mean, and like explore
Speaker 1: the things that were creatively interesting to me rather than
Speaker 1: what I felt like I should be doing, because that
Speaker 1: was the opportunity that had been placed immediately in front
Speaker 1: of me. And yeah, just releasing myself from any burden
Speaker 1: to be something that I thought other people thought I
Speaker 1: should be. So coming home as it were in a
Speaker 1: sort of literal sense, but figuratively as well. It wasn't
Speaker 1: like I was flushed with work when I was in
Speaker 1: the States, and in fact I did work in the
Speaker 1: UK to sort kind of bankroll the experience. But at
Speaker 1: the end of it, I realized that what I had
Speaker 1: gained is a real deep confidence and belief in myself
Speaker 1: or my ability to do the things that I knew
Speaker 1: would like me up, rather than doing things that I
Speaker 1: felt like I should, And that was a bigger gift
Speaker 1: than if I had worked loads. Actually, you're a fucking hero.
Speaker 1: Do you have a sort of practice? I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess what masking is like. Do you have like a
Speaker 1: routine because you seem, you know, you seem wonderful, as
Speaker 1: you seem very happy and puzzitive, and you seem in
Speaker 1: a very good place. Is it constant work to be
Speaker 1: in as a do you do you do things like
Speaker 1: I meditate every morning, I work out, Like what do
Speaker 1: you have a thing? Or are you just generally I
Speaker 1: feel much better. I think to say I have a
Speaker 1: practice would be generous to myself. It's more like, but
Speaker 1: you know, someone says something to me once about you know,
Speaker 1: just beginning again. Because people like if they want to
Speaker 1: say they want to start working out, they'll go and
Speaker 1: then it might peter out and they'll think, oh I
Speaker 1: failed I failed to go into the gym because I'm
Speaker 1: no longer going. You just begin again, and that is
Speaker 1: what it is. It's not it's not it's not necessarily
Speaker 1: a constant. So my practices are all beginning again. I
Speaker 1: start meditation, and I go, this is it this time,
Speaker 1: this is the one. This is where you catch me
Speaker 1: doing it every day morning. And then after a month,
Speaker 1: I'm out, and then I start again, and I forgive
Speaker 1: myself for that falling, and then I kind of think
Speaker 1: of other things as meditation, like I journal and that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So as a writer, I realized that actually, maybe sitting
Speaker 1: still with my own noisy brain isn't the best way
Speaker 1: for me to meditate. And I've realized that maybe writing
Speaker 1: but doing it in a conscious way, maybe that can
Speaker 1: be my meditation. And as long as you're bringing consciousness
Speaker 1: to it, then it can be a form of like
Speaker 1: quietening the brain and or listening to the observing the
Speaker 1: movement of the mind. And that's really what meditation is.
Speaker 1: It's not about sitting in silence or your brain going quiet,
Speaker 1: and that's impossible because of just biomechanics or whatever, but
Speaker 1: like or neuro mechanics, but like just observing it that
Speaker 1: can give you just that slim of distance that you
Speaker 1: can be with your thoughts rather than be them. So
Speaker 1: that's yeah, So that's the practice well being. You know,
Speaker 1: like I don't drink as much as I used to have.
Speaker 1: I like a glass of wine every now and again,
Speaker 1: but a kana basically, like I have been eating. Well,
Speaker 1: you know all the cliches, but they like accumulatively, they
Speaker 1: make such a difference. I feel like I'm observing for
Speaker 1: my mental health. It just makes a huge difference. And
Speaker 1: I've seen the cost of not looking after myself in
Speaker 1: those respects, so that that's really all it is. It's
Speaker 1: a personal thing of like does this cost me to
Speaker 1: not look after myself in these areas? If you can
Speaker 1: get away with it, then please have at it. Live
Speaker 1: your life on my behalf, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But like, for the most part, because of the way
Speaker 1: humans are built, we can't really not for a long
Speaker 1: period of time, I have forgotten to tell you something,
Speaker 1: and it's so annoying because oh god, as long as
Speaker 1: that's something silly like I've died or something like that. Um, well, shit,
Speaker 1: well it actually don't oh don't, Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: know if you meditated journey when you work out. But
Speaker 1: you I thought if I made noises over you're saying,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be real. But it is really dead dead.
Speaker 1: How did you die? Well, I don't think it'll be
Speaker 1: a health related thing. And here's why I think I
Speaker 1: think it will be. I'm clumsy in a way where
Speaker 1: the thing escalate. It's really quickly, Like I could be
Speaker 1: at one end of the bathroom and drop something and
Speaker 1: somehow it ends up in the toilet. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, it's like I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of accidents, but they're always like kind of low
Speaker 1: key spectacular like that. Like literally, just before we started recording,
Speaker 1: I tipped over a glass, whole glass of water, and
Speaker 1: it started spilling over the edge of the table into
Speaker 1: a socket. Of course, there's an electrical socket immediately underneath
Speaker 1: a table, So it'll probably be some domestic related accident,
Speaker 1: like an electrocution or falling off a roof or out
Speaker 1: of a window or something like that. So, yeah, would
Speaker 1: you like to pig mister bean? Do you direct? Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll die silently from electrication. Okay, do you worry about death? Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I do. I just turned fifty like, oh was
Speaker 1: it a three two? It's happened. I know we're all
Speaker 1: heading there, so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the fuck out
Speaker 1: tell you what though, It's enough make you think about
Speaker 1: life in a different way. I don't know if all
Speaker 1: fifty year olds will concur, but I had this real
Speaker 1: sense of like, oh, this is I mean literally, this
Speaker 1: is not a drill. This is this is it now
Speaker 1: and it's all from here on. It's about dying well,
Speaker 1: doing the things that you really want to do, not
Speaker 1: getting caught up with the things you don't want to do,
Speaker 1: losing the people that are no good in your life.
Speaker 1: I've surround yourself with good folks, eating well, you know,
Speaker 1: do you know? I mean it's stuck dying well, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, in the gut you got in the gut?
Speaker 1: Are you waiting ten fifty? It's going to be a
Speaker 1: suck a bunch in the face. Oh good, that's good.
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying it. Well, I mean I don't want to
Speaker 1: be that person. But you look in your twenties, so
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing is not electrocuting myself. Yeah, hold off
Speaker 1: on that for a big record. I record, you've got
Speaker 1: a few more in you. What do you think happens
Speaker 1: when you die. I saw this name that I rather
Speaker 1: like that said something like, maybe the white light at
Speaker 1: the end of the tunnel is you coming out of
Speaker 1: someone's vagina. Wow, yeah, I love it. Straight backround, straight background.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it is. I think that is what
Speaker 1: it is. But I do think you get a little
Speaker 1: gap in the middle of well, the gap because it's
Speaker 1: outside of time, because obviously times a man made construct.
Speaker 1: The gap could be infinite. The gap could be you
Speaker 1: could go somewhere else or whatever, but it's you're an
Speaker 1: infinite no time, no space, and then there you are
Speaker 1: pop out again. Oh I've been born. Someone I spoke
Speaker 1: to the other day said that you come back three times,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't think that's right. I
Speaker 1: think you come back a billion times, or it's once. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When three seems like yeah, well, I guess rule of three.
Speaker 1: Rule of three three, It feels like if we're talking
Speaker 1: about the oneness of all things, then it's got to
Speaker 1: be none or one. Really three feels like that belongs
Speaker 1: more in mythology rather than like, yeah, three seems like
Speaker 1: you haven't really experienced all the things in three. I mean,
Speaker 1: you just keep looping around and and maybe you can
Speaker 1: take a little break, and you know, I just want
Speaker 1: to be part of the oneness for a bit and
Speaker 1: then and then you go back in again. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. That's enough oneness for a bit. Exactly. You're
Speaker 1: one down this one Jesus space. I want to be two.
Speaker 1: I'm an. Well, there is a gap and it's called heaven.
Speaker 1: You're in it. You're welcome. People very excited to hear you,
Speaker 1: see you and watch you, and they want to this
Speaker 1: field with your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Probably
Speaker 1: pastor oh oh, my puppy, of course. Okay, it is
Speaker 1: filled with your puppy, as if you'll, probably were made
Speaker 1: of pasta, so it's like a spaghetti puppy. Pretty cute, Yeah,
Speaker 1: pretty cute. Actually, just the right temperature and soliditate, little
Speaker 1: pasta puppy. Yeah, run around everywhere. Everyone's excited to see you.
Speaker 1: They want to talk about your life through film. First
Speaker 1: thing they ask you, it's odd. First thing they ask
Speaker 1: you is what is the first film you remember seeing
Speaker 1: and your show? I think it was some kind of
Speaker 1: Disney situation, and my my feeling is it was probably
Speaker 1: The Rescuers. Oh yeah, lovely doesn't get talked about enough
Speaker 1: in the Disney chat you know what I mean. You
Speaker 1: go on your Disney whatsapped thread, which obviously I'm in
Speaker 1: all of it. Rescues don't come up a lot. Film,
Speaker 1: I mean, tell me more. I don't remember very much
Speaker 1: about it, because you know, I must have been really young.
Speaker 1: I don't even know when it came out. But I
Speaker 1: was thinking about, you know, when my mum used to
Speaker 1: take a to the pictures and that, because I wonder
Speaker 1: if it was just a little bit of a respite.
Speaker 1: She was a single month three kids. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like just just quiet for two hours. And in those days,
Speaker 1: you know, there was the little short or whatever featurette
Speaker 1: that they'd have at the beginning. There'd be an intermission,
Speaker 1: ice creams and all the rest of it, and then
Speaker 1: the main event so we could be there for half
Speaker 1: a day sort of thing. But yeah, I don't remember
Speaker 1: the film, but I remember being absolutely captivated by film,
Speaker 1: and I mean later on, I remember seeing Annie and
Speaker 1: crying all the way home and being so confused that
Speaker 1: what had happened up there had affected my heart so much,
Speaker 1: and so I was trying to hide it. I was.
Speaker 1: I remember like being in the car and my brothers
Speaker 1: were on and I was like like crying out of
Speaker 1: the side of it because because I was so embarrassed,
Speaker 1: because I was like, how could I have been affected
Speaker 1: by by that? Yeah? It was like a really like
Speaker 1: bewildering moment of just like it's two, why is this
Speaker 1: having this effect on me? Well, so there's three of you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've got two older brothers. Yeah, where was this?
Speaker 1: This would have been? This would have been I think
Speaker 1: it's called the Gemini or something like that, our genesis
Speaker 1: in Bow. It didn't used to it. It was called
Speaker 1: something else. But there's a yeah, you know, like between
Speaker 1: Stepney and like near Stepnie exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that. Now tell me this, what's the film that
Speaker 1: made you cry the most? Other than Annie? Annie is
Speaker 1: a stone cold class Oh yeah, and did you get
Speaker 1: better at crying? He's still horrified and embarrassed, but it
Speaker 1: funny enough. The one that I would actually say is
Speaker 1: the film that's made me cry the most. I cried
Speaker 1: in the same way of almost like overwhelmed by my
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by my crying, and it was it was Moonlight Man,
Speaker 1: and what feel right? And so I went like I
Speaker 1: got a an invite to a screening, so I didn't
Speaker 1: really know what it was. I wasn't aware of Barry
Speaker 1: Jenkins's work, and so it went and was I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, blown away doesn't even cover it. But then
Speaker 1: there was a Q and a after and everybody was
Speaker 1: there really and I think I think that Harris was
Speaker 1: there obviously about jen and I was. I remember just
Speaker 1: looking up to try and see if I could balance
Speaker 1: the tiss in my mind because otherwise I was gone
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask a question, but it would
Speaker 1: have been like have you got tissue? So I could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that was, Yeah, it was almost out of
Speaker 1: body experience. How moved I was by that by that
Speaker 1: film because for me, and I've listened to his films
Speaker 1: covered with oh my god, such a great episode. And
Speaker 1: for me, Moonlight was about finding your home and it
Speaker 1: wasn't about a place, it was about a person. And
Speaker 1: so eventually that character finds his home in the person
Speaker 1: that has been his home this whole time. But like
Speaker 1: you just think, give himself permission to feel it, to
Speaker 1: go there or you know whatever. So yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just I don't know why that resonates are strongly for me,
Speaker 1: but I'm done. Oh don't you Oh okay, doctor No,
Speaker 1: I can't see where that would resonate review sty strange. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, very good film. It was justly quite enjoyable.
Speaker 1: It's just a good film about being scared. What's the
Speaker 1: film that's scared you? Well, you kind of mentioned it already.
Speaker 1: I mean, apart from the obvious, I'm very susceptible, absolutely
Speaker 1: terrified those mess o man, Yeah, you mentioned it already. Well,
Speaker 1: I was going to say I am susceptible. So pretty
Speaker 1: much every horror film, even if it's not meant to
Speaker 1: be a horror, I'm terrified. But one day my agent
Speaker 1: messages me and says, oh, you know, this director wants
Speaker 1: to want you to come and read for his film.
Speaker 1: Here's a short that the film is based on. And
Speaker 1: he just sends me a YouTube link. So, and it's daytime.
Speaker 1: I'm at home and I think nothing of it. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: good research. I have a look at the film before
Speaker 1: I go in, So I hit play and it's the
Speaker 1: short of lights Out and have you seen it? Yeah? Short.
Speaker 1: The short is so simple. It's basically this woman going
Speaker 1: to bed and she turns off the light. In the
Speaker 1: hall and then at the end she just sees this figure.
Speaker 1: She turns a light back on. The fuck was that?
Speaker 1: It's gone? She turns the light off again, the figures
Speaker 1: moved closer. I was even now I could just because
Speaker 1: I'm so susceptible, and that is something that I do fear,
Speaker 1: is like someone something at the window or breaking in
Speaker 1: or something like that. I was done. That's and to me,
Speaker 1: like proportionately, that's the film that scared me the most
Speaker 1: because for something that's three minutes long and I couldn't
Speaker 1: even I had to push the computer away to be
Speaker 1: able to watch, it seems like got what the divide?
Speaker 1: What the conceit was? I was just like nah, nah,
Speaker 1: So that yeah, in terms of proportion of you know,
Speaker 1: length of movie to how scared, I hands hands down,
Speaker 1: its lights out. Well, great film, it was great. How
Speaker 1: was your meeting then when you went there? Were like, fuck?
Speaker 1: I mean yeah it was good. He's yeah, very David
Speaker 1: is very sort of chilled out. He's yeah, but yeah
Speaker 1: it was. Well I got the job, so I must
Speaker 1: have gone, all right, you did very. That's where That's
Speaker 1: where I was like, I what I went to sit
Speaker 1: at and I was so excited to see Anyway, what
Speaker 1: is the film that you love? However, it's not critically acclaimed,
Speaker 1: most people don't like it, but you love it, and
Speaker 1: everyone's an idiot. You know what? I think this is
Speaker 1: a really tricky question because I've got exceptional taste, and
Speaker 1: for me it usually goes the other way. Is that
Speaker 1: like there's films that everybody loves and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm gootna I just go and get it, like Wolf
Speaker 1: of Wall Street. You know what I've noticed as well.
Speaker 1: I think it's films where I'm gonna say it's like
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity basically going unchecked, because I think it's possible
Speaker 1: to make a moral film about an im moral person,
Speaker 1: but if you make an a moral film about an
Speaker 1: a moral person, it's just like, how is that a contribution?
Speaker 1: And it's you know, it's not my place to critique Scots,
Speaker 1: but like I feel sometimes that certain films like The
Speaker 1: Joker maybe, and where where male characters have made choices
Speaker 1: and they they go unchecked because you can have people,
Speaker 1: you can have characters do all those dreadful things. I believe,
Speaker 1: but the film standpoint. I resonate more if the film
Speaker 1: standpoint is, but that's wrong obviously, right, Whereas in movies
Speaker 1: where that doesn't happen, I'm like, so what are you saying?
Speaker 1: And so there's certain films that have been very popular
Speaker 1: that have been that that sort of a moral film
Speaker 1: about an im moral character, and I've been like, guys, no,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not into this one. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm with you? I think I'm almost completely with you,
Speaker 1: except for I went to see Wolf of Wall Street
Speaker 1: and I felt the same way you did. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't like this film. This seems like a sort
Speaker 1: of sort of bad intention film or something like that.
Speaker 1: And then maybe a year or two later, it was
Speaker 1: on TV and I just sort of started it. I
Speaker 1: sort of flicked onto it, and I thought, this film
Speaker 1: is fucking brilliant and I've totally missed Judson. It's so funny,
Speaker 1: and actually I think it is all the things. It's
Speaker 1: just quite clever because it kind of guys presented without comment,
Speaker 1: but they're definitely the bad guys. Definitely definitely the bad guys,
Speaker 1: and actually the Kyle Chandler, who is the good guy. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's actually quite subtly done in like the
Speaker 1: final moment with him having having achieved what he set
Speaker 1: out to achieving, yet he's just on a subway on
Speaker 1: his own in a like wearing ship clothes in the
Speaker 1: ship place because the system is rigged against the good people,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I was actually like, this film is
Speaker 1: I think it's a brilliant film, but I really hated
Speaker 1: it the first time. I was really like, this seems
Speaker 1: like a morally objectionable and then the same time I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, it's very clever. That's really interesting
Speaker 1: because I feel like I sometimes don't want to believe
Speaker 1: that revisiting a film will will have you seen anything,
Speaker 1: and it's just totally not true. Is it Like you
Speaker 1: can go back to things and just go, wow, how
Speaker 1: did I miss that? So I'd very much like the
Speaker 1: open term revisiting it. But that was my experience at
Speaker 1: the time of Ye I'm with you. It was also
Speaker 1: much funnier than one side was on board with it.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a very very funny film,
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, it is the thing of I think
Speaker 1: he's kind of in a way he's going I trust you,
Speaker 1: the audience. I'm not going to spell this out like
Speaker 1: you tell me. You love this guy, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: like this guy. Okay, yeah, you guys all this stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's it. Here it is Walts and all. Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: is it because also off the back of your podcast,
Speaker 1: I did, actually because Barry Jenkins's answers. This was Last
Speaker 1: Action Hero. So I I went because I really liked
Speaker 1: that at the time that it came out, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sort of Yeah, I was surprised that it
Speaker 1: didn't get any love, but yeah, I thought it was
Speaker 1: all right. I leave it in like nineteen ninety five
Speaker 1: or whenever it came out again. That belongs back there. Okay,
Speaker 1: what about the film that you used to love but
Speaker 1: you've watched recently and you've thought, I don't like this anymore.
Speaker 1: Maybe you've changed. Oh do you know this is going
Speaker 1: to be a controversial one except for I guess fans
Speaker 1: of the Big Bang theory. But like I loved Raiders
Speaker 1: as lost up. Yeah, but then and I and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I sometimes have a little Sunday afternoon, like
Speaker 1: you know, go and visit revisit a classic. And I
Speaker 1: watched it and I was not into it at all.
Speaker 1: Oh God, I can't hear this. I know. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I don't even I can't even believe I'm saying it. Why,
Speaker 1: I don't. No, I don't even think I can bear
Speaker 1: to say the words how I was feeling. I just
Speaker 1: but but don't they say I'm the big bang theory
Speaker 1: that like there's like he doesn't advance the plot at all.
Speaker 1: Isn't there some like an episode where it's like this
Speaker 1: is this really controversial theory that one of them has
Speaker 1: that like Harrison Fall's character doesn't actually advance the lt
Speaker 1: at all, But that wasn't Yeah, he makes no difference
Speaker 1: to the in the end. Yeah, that's quite fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just didn't. I just I'm going to just say
Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy it. That's that's what it is. Well,
Speaker 1: that's all we've got time. It was going so well,
Speaker 1: I know, what is the film that means the most
Speaker 1: to you? Not because the film is good necessarily, but
Speaker 1: the experience you had seeing it will always make it
Speaker 1: meaningful to you. And gosh, I could crime and just
Speaker 1: thinking of the moment, but it was it was it
Speaker 1: was probably yeah, it was Black Panther. Gosh, yeah, because
Speaker 1: you know, you know, there's a lot of conversation around
Speaker 1: when that movie came out about you know, representation and
Speaker 1: how much that matters, and also the fact that it's
Speaker 1: set on the continent of Africa, but also that it
Speaker 1: you know, it includes the diaspora in the storytelling, you know,
Speaker 1: like kill Monger's story is so yeah, so vital. And
Speaker 1: then so there was this one moment where it's quite
Speaker 1: early on in the film where the n Carea's character
Speaker 1: comes out and she says, we're home, and then just
Speaker 1: Wakanda just opens up and it's just I just oh,
Speaker 1: it was just so that went into my soul, just
Speaker 1: that image and just watching a movie where the scenes
Speaker 1: where everybody's black, you know what I mean, in a
Speaker 1: in a Bobuster movie. Like I think when you've been
Speaker 1: used to seeing yoursel I've represented the impact of black panther,
Speaker 1: I think probably is it might be difficult to comprehend
Speaker 1: like how significant that was to see finally you or
Speaker 1: people that look like you represented in that way. It's
Speaker 1: all powerful and brilliant and smart and sexy and strong
Speaker 1: and you know, do you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: and having governance over their their path and making decisions
Speaker 1: for themselves without any interference or all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that was very big. That was
Speaker 1: a very sort of powerful moment. And then that same day,
Speaker 1: so I was filming on something and we were on
Speaker 1: night shoots. So I went to I got up at
Speaker 1: that mid day and I was like, oh, what can
Speaker 1: I do in my day? We're going to be filming
Speaker 1: probably from about six. So I was like, I went
Speaker 1: to see Black Panther. And then we had a call
Speaker 1: from production saying, oh, you know, tonight might be snowed
Speaker 1: off sort of thing. It might not happen, might not
Speaker 1: be filming. So we all got all the carts, got
Speaker 1: together and we're like, oh, should we go and watch
Speaker 1: a film? Yeah? Great, would you want to watch? And
Speaker 1: went Shape of Water. I was a girl, ba I
Speaker 1: just want to watch Black Father again. I mean you
Speaker 1: went twice in one day, twice in one day, and
Speaker 1: I was just just as happy and sort of immersed
Speaker 1: and just transported the second time as much as I
Speaker 1: was the first time. That's wonderful. It was just brilliant.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking great film and yeah everything, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: fact that it's also a huge fucking box office success.
Speaker 1: It is like answers every question exactly, may you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, what is the film you most relate
Speaker 1: to and do your show? You see, now we're not
Speaker 1: talking about as in a character, because I don't feel
Speaker 1: like there's any specific community. Well, probably for me it's
Speaker 1: the Matrix, because I like the way you're thinking, Neo,
Speaker 1: this isn't all there is? Is there? You are? Well?
Speaker 1: Not not quite. I mean I like to think that
Speaker 1: I would be Naobe, but I think I'm probably cypher,
Speaker 1: you know, the one that wants to get put back
Speaker 1: into the matrix. You know, make me something important like
Speaker 1: an actor. No, you're on Live at the Apollo thinking
Speaker 1: is this it? Yeah, there must be. I love it exactly.
Speaker 1: Follow the Rabbit. Yeah, mate, I'm one of the few
Speaker 1: people that really love all three films. I mean two
Speaker 1: not so much, but like I love them before, we
Speaker 1: don't talk about but I love them all. Four is fascinating.
Speaker 1: Four I watched recently and was like, what what a wow?
Speaker 1: In what way? What were your what you just like
Speaker 1: in terms of it's so crazy right, like I said,
Speaker 1: it's such a crazy starting point, and that they or
Speaker 1: the metal still very meta talk within it. Well done,
Speaker 1: it's great, good, good, good work. It's interesting. I didn't think, Well,
Speaker 1: it's something you made some choices. Definitely, Yeah, definitely not
Speaker 1: what I was expecting. Something's kind of it. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: about sexiest? What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? And
Speaker 1: so I took this to be not as in sex
Speaker 1: but sexy, So outside fucking correct answer. Correct. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that is, like, that's the goal. If actors are
Speaker 1: looking for on screen chemistry, head there and if you
Speaker 1: even get yes, that's just I mean, obviously the filmmaking,
Speaker 1: you know, because of the mood of that movie is
Speaker 1: just obviously lends itself to making it sexy. But the
Speaker 1: those two actors in that situation perfect, those two, the
Speaker 1: lighting and the soundtrack agreed, and it's just fucking yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really hot film. Yeah. Yeah. And your show, there's
Speaker 1: a it's a subcategory now at the intellectual section of
Speaker 1: the show, troubling bonus, worrying wide dones a film you
Speaker 1: found a rousing that you weren't sure that you should. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I want to. I want to help out
Speaker 1: with this one. I want to. I want to be
Speaker 1: a useful contributor. But there's nothing I think that I
Speaker 1: have a response to the things that are meant you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, there's nothing right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't watch the Rescuers and feel anything. It's basically what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, you're saying, never had a worrying wide done.
Speaker 1: All the wide dones were pure, Yeah they were the
Speaker 1: source material was appropriate to the response. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You're sticking with. Okay, Okay, so rescues that nothing nothing, no,
Speaker 1: nothing nothing. I couldn't even think because you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: guys have got Jessica Rabbit and I and I and
Speaker 1: I kind of get that, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: But like, there isn't there isn't an equivalent for women
Speaker 1: that you or for you know, for a straight woman,
Speaker 1: there's not a there's not a he Man Hercules. No. Yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: What is objectively? Objectively? Objectively? Of course, the greatest film
Speaker 1: of all time might be your favorite. No it's not,
Speaker 1: and I've only watched it the once. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to say The Godfather too, Okay, Yeah, why are you
Speaker 1: throwing that? Well? I just remember finishing that film. It's
Speaker 1: just like, wow, that had subtitles and I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: That must be good. I mean, I've watched. I went
Speaker 1: through this the nero phase and so obviously that was
Speaker 1: essential viewing. But yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get on
Speaker 1: with the old you know, cotton wool in the mouth
Speaker 1: and the Godfather thing. That really took me out of it.
Speaker 1: But Godfather too was kind of just had every element
Speaker 1: of storytelling, got also performance in there that you that
Speaker 1: you would want and I felt like but but weirdly,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch it again. And that's that's
Speaker 1: often the way, isn't it with the really great films
Speaker 1: is like like Citizen Kane, we watched at college and
Speaker 1: have never felt inclined to revisit it. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Casablanca saw it again, We watched it at college. It's like,
Speaker 1: that was great. But I will watch, you know, Shortshack
Speaker 1: reduption ten times before I'll ever watch that again. I
Speaker 1: think it's easily like long depressing words. I think, yeah
Speaker 1: we did that, Yeah we made it at some point.
Speaker 1: There were two sets of footprints in the sand. But
Speaker 1: what is the film that you could or have watched
Speaker 1: the most over and over again. Oh that's easy. That's aliens.
Speaker 1: Nice sounds that hasn't come up. Oh yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: At school everyone was watching Aliens all the time. Well
Speaker 1: I didn't. Again, it's kind of horror essentially, so I
Speaker 1: couldn't have. But when I was doing my UM, I
Speaker 1: did an HND and like program TV and film and stuff,
Speaker 1: and the lecturer I had us watch Aliens or maybe Alien. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was hooked. So I don't know why. This is
Speaker 1: a perfect store for me. This is everything I want. Marines,
Speaker 1: there's jokes, there's guns, Aliens. It was brilliant. I just
Speaker 1: and I kind of almost preferred Aliens to Alien. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, a James Cameron fan, I guess, And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I've watched that so many times. I mean literally,
Speaker 1: like it would be a ritual. I go out on
Speaker 1: a Saturday night with my mates and then we go
Speaker 1: around his house and then we on the Sunday were
Speaker 1: would probably watching the Terminator two most likely Aliens and
Speaker 1: be mumbling incorrectly usually their lines along with which I
Speaker 1: just love it. That's great, that's great. Do you like
Speaker 1: your way of water? Be happy with your way of water?
Speaker 1: James Cameron fan, Yeah, I yeah, I thought I thought
Speaker 1: it was all right. Actually I didn't mind it at all.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think advtar advertars I didn't mind
Speaker 1: it too many stars. It's not my favorite of his staff.
Speaker 1: I really like Titanic. I think that's great. I like
Speaker 1: Aliens and two Terminator a bit, but Terminator feels very
Speaker 1: much like Alien in the sense of spare, whereas you know,
Speaker 1: obviously Terminated too is all guns much more gunsy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that word it is. Yeah, it is very gunsy. Actually
Speaker 1: my weekend. We don't like to be negative all the
Speaker 1: spiritual work with Dad, but here we are. What's the
Speaker 1: worst field we ever saw? I mean, there is every possibility,
Speaker 1: because I only watch it the ones, there is every
Speaker 1: possibility that it's not as bad as I thought it
Speaker 1: was at the time. But there's a film called The
Speaker 1: Other Sister where it's it's I think it's sort of
Speaker 1: like maybe early nineties or late eighties, and it's uh, oh,
Speaker 1: what's the access name? Givanni and Juliet Yeah, and Juliet Lewis,
Speaker 1: and they're playing two people who fall another they have
Speaker 1: learning difficulties and okay, so there's there's the issue for me.
Speaker 1: M m. Yes. And it's directed by Gary Marsham. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they both have learning difficulties in it. Yeah, And actually
Speaker 1: I watched the trailer recently to just because I was like,
Speaker 1: was it as offensive? Yeah, And the joke wasn't on them.
Speaker 1: They weren't like ha ha ha look at learning people
Speaker 1: were learning disabilities. But still to see two actors perform
Speaker 1: that it was it was tricky, like it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: done now. Yes, but you have to sort of, I guess,
Speaker 1: give a little bit of latitude for what happened then,
Speaker 1: not to say that it's okay, but like it was
Speaker 1: a different time. Yes, what's the film? Hang on? You
Speaker 1: used to be in comedy. You were a brilliant comedian,
Speaker 1: one of the greats. You remain as funny as ever.
Speaker 1: That's the film that made you laugh the most. It
Speaker 1: might not be the funniest made you laughter most, maybe
Speaker 1: laughter most. I think it's probably apparently. It's probably not apparently.
Speaker 1: I get that it's problematic for some folks now trading places.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, why so? Yeah? Why funny or why problematic? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that? I don't know, it's problematic? Oh man, I
Speaker 1: just all the performances is definitely. That's that's it. That's
Speaker 1: what it is, is what it is. Eddie Murphy at
Speaker 1: the top of his game, but also that pairing with
Speaker 1: Dnacroid is perfect because him playing that sort of up
Speaker 1: type privileged, so he has an existential crisis. Essentially, it's
Speaker 1: sort of a buzz lightyear realization, Oh that's who I
Speaker 1: am sort of thing. But yeah, the combination of them
Speaker 1: and the sort of skewing of that world is really
Speaker 1: really well done, and you can feel, well, I hope
Speaker 1: that it's I hope that it was as fun to
Speaker 1: film as it seems to have been, and like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like that it was alive. It's
Speaker 1: crackling with like you feel like, you know, the actors
Speaker 1: had latitude to sort of riff and find stuff. But again,
Speaker 1: it's one of those films and I sort of wish
Speaker 1: we had more films like that, but we don't seem to.
Speaker 1: But like films that are really quotable, do what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we used to quote trade and play like yeah
Speaker 1: as we just go yeah um and yeah, we don't
Speaker 1: really have films like that anymore. So that's another thing
Speaker 1: that's like a real sort of gem about it, is
Speaker 1: that like just these these moments that that are just
Speaker 1: like cultural currency. Yeah, yeah, that's because everything's so spread out,
Speaker 1: or because we don't haven't had a big, broad, mainstream
Speaker 1: comedy in the cinema. I think that because culturally we've
Speaker 1: moved and moved on and things are a bit more
Speaker 1: subtle now, and because of the way that stuff gets
Speaker 1: lines get delivered. Just not to be simplistic about it,
Speaker 1: but like it doesn't lend itself to being quotable. I
Speaker 1: feel like The Matrix is probably the last sort of
Speaker 1: great quotable film, which would have been what was that
Speaker 1: ninety nine that came out, So yeah, yeah, we we
Speaker 1: We're just it's a different era, a bit of subtlety
Speaker 1: and more nuance, so it doesn't sort of lend itself
Speaker 1: to eat that or whatever or you know, all the
Speaker 1: things that people the things that people say in the
Speaker 1: film space. Yea interesting and your show you've been beyond
Speaker 1: the delight. However, when you were getting ready to go
Speaker 1: out silently as mister bean as you could be, you
Speaker 1: tripped over. You spilled glass, a glass of water onto
Speaker 1: your desk. It rolled off the desk in a sort
Speaker 1: of cascade waterfall. You went to catch it. As you
Speaker 1: went to catch it, you reached under near the plug
Speaker 1: socket where the water landed. As you caught the glass,
Speaker 1: you went, I've caught it, and then your finger caught
Speaker 1: the end of the electric socket and you were electrocuted.
Speaker 1: You're electrocuted, but that wasn't enough for you, so you
Speaker 1: pulled your hand away and you were like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm alive. And then you fell backwards step. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that sounds like you got supported and you weren't dead yet,
Speaker 1: but you were very injured. And you managed to crawl
Speaker 1: out the door into the road, and your dog ran past,
Speaker 1: and you called your dog's name, but your dog thought
Speaker 1: it was a different name and ran straight fast, and
Speaker 1: then you were hit by busy. Anyway, it's just Shane.
Speaker 1: I was walking around with the coffin, you know what.
Speaker 1: I'm like. I see this bus go pass with you
Speaker 1: on the front of me. I sand the show, so
Speaker 1: I sort of run to the next stop and I go, sorry,
Speaker 1: the bus you got and the your shoe on the
Speaker 1: front of your bust and I peel you off. It's
Speaker 1: a state. You're banned and massed up, and I haven't
Speaker 1: got the dimensions of it, right, So I said to
Speaker 1: bust trap if you've got and one of them like
Speaker 1: fire axes, and he goes, yeah, yeah, they're start chopping
Speaker 1: you up, chopping up people on the bus of screaming.
Speaker 1: I go, it's all right, I know, and put all
Speaker 1: of you in the coffin. But it's more than I
Speaker 1: was expecting. And this coffin is absolutely ran. That's holiday
Speaker 1: enough room. It's not you, it's the if you've accumulated
Speaker 1: on your food in the streets and the boots you've
Speaker 1: got bits of metal. Anyway, there's only enough room in
Speaker 1: this coffee for me to slide one DVD for you
Speaker 1: to take across to the other side. Every night is movie?
Speaker 1: Now what film are you taking to show? Pastor puppies
Speaker 1: when it is your movie name Puppies and you show
Speaker 1: show incredible? Yeah man, because as well, yes, we can
Speaker 1: all laugh about how we know that this is all
Speaker 1: just a construct, but we're watching this movie about how
Speaker 1: it's all a construct on the other side of the construct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you are and your show. Is there anything
Speaker 1: you'd like to tell people to listen to look out
Speaker 1: for read read? Oh yeah, oh thanks, I'm sure. I
Speaker 1: have a new book out. So I have a new
Speaker 1: book out called Tough Crowd, which is out in the summer,
Speaker 1: but it's available to pre order. Yes, it is um
Speaker 1: and it's a rom com I guess, yeah, romm about
Speaker 1: a comedian who she's a sort of aspiring open my
Speaker 1: comedian and she meets a guy but it turns out
Speaker 1: he has kids and that turns out to be the
Speaker 1: tough crowd. Yeah. So it's kind of like it's a
Speaker 1: bit obviously it's drawing on my experience from being a comedian,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of kind of a little bit of
Speaker 1: a farewell, farewell for now to comedy, but but also
Speaker 1: about you know, the experience of dating somebody who's got kids.
Speaker 1: That's a whole that's a whole thing. Have you sold
Speaker 1: the film rights to this yet? I have not working
Speaker 1: on it. Okay, let's let's get that done. Yeah. Thats
Speaker 1: that Hans like a great book and a great film.
Speaker 1: Thanks and your show. God, I like you. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much for this. This has been wonderful. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure. Have a lovely death. Good day
Speaker 1: to you. Appreciate you, appreciate you. Okay, So that was
Speaker 1: episode two hundred and forty two. Head over to the
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Speaker 1: most to you and why it's a lovely thing to read,
Speaker 1: makes my name and Mauren cry. Everyone loves it. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Andy for doing the show
Speaker 1: and for being so open. Go watch her shows, read
Speaker 1: her books, do everything you can. Thanks to Scrubius, Pip
Speaker 1: and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Peace for
Speaker 1: producing it. Thanks to ACAS visting it. Thanks to Adam
Speaker 1: Richardson for the graphics at pleas to allow them for
Speaker 1: the photography. Come and join me next week for a
Speaker 1: brilliant episode with mister Adam Scott from Severance and step Brothers.
Speaker 1: That guy amazing. So that is it for now. I
Speaker 1: hope you're all well in the meantime, have a lovely
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