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Speaker 1: Drive Time? Brian Sexton, Jaron Oshan, Ashland Sullivan. Jaguars Drive

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Speaker 1: Time starts right Morrow. Good morning, Happy Tuesday in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Time for Jacks Drive Time in a very busy week

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Speaker 1: this week, leading to a really busy week next week

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Speaker 1: as the Jags get set for the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: seventeen in a table. Uh, two thousand eighteen NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Drive Time. Ashland back at

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Speaker 1: the desk. How are you this morning? I'm good. I

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Speaker 1: like it here it was zones recommendation. Who here? So

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Speaker 1: you're comfortable. I'm fantastic. What a day yesterday? Huh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was something. It really was and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I don't know if you could recapture that. It

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Speaker 1: was a unique moment. In all years that I've been

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Speaker 1: around guys retiring in the NFL, I've never seen that

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Speaker 1: anything like that. You know. It's funny. I in in

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Speaker 1: trying to plan what I was going to cover and

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Speaker 1: actually anticipated and it thought coming in I would probably

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Speaker 1: write Telvin off as one of my stories and as

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Speaker 1: even the main story, because I anticipated him talking a

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Speaker 1: lot about how much Paul meant to him, and I

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Speaker 1: fans for the first time maybe truly realized what they

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Speaker 1: was a great moment. I'm not surprised by it, because

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Speaker 1: anybody who was there and watched it was couldn't have

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Speaker 1: not been moved by the big things. That is big

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Speaker 1: thing number one, Paulpas's retirement after seven seasons here in Jackson. However,

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Speaker 1: Telvin Smith absolutely stole the show. Here's what he had

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Speaker 1: to say. A promise, I promise, I love you, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you, and forever you have a place with me

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Speaker 1: as my brother. Can I introduce you out the paulp

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Speaker 1: was list so a couple of things go through your mind.

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Speaker 1: The first is the game on TV is not the

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Speaker 1: most personal game, right. I mean, guys were the helmets.

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Speaker 1: They look like okay, roll butts. You know at times

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Speaker 1: like like it's a great, big video game. You can't

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Speaker 1: And I think people lose track sometimes. I mean you

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Speaker 1: can just see it on Twitter when players are are

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Speaker 1: or you just it's depersonalizing, right is that even a word?

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Speaker 1: The humanizing? And then yesterday it was the Turbo Boost.

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Speaker 1: I thought that Telvin Smith show the human side of

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Speaker 1: see perfectly. And it was funny after the speech. He

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Speaker 1: Myles has talked about the ease that Paul made that transition,

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Speaker 1: remember the day that Telvin stole the show when it

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Speaker 1: was cool when he you know, he started crying before

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Speaker 1: the end of the first sentence, and you can tell

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Speaker 1: I was just sort of like, well, that's how it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. I don't care. So before I went down

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Speaker 1: I ran down to Shods office and Paul was there

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Speaker 1: with with Talvin and Rachine, and they were just kind

433
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Speaker 1: of going over what they were going to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to try to get on the same page.

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Speaker 1: And Telvin said, I hope I can at least get

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Speaker 1: through my first sentence without crying. I mean, he knew

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Speaker 1: it was kind of everyone knew was coming. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was cool. You knew when he walked in with

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Speaker 1: a suit and that notebook he meant business. He was

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Speaker 1: taking this really seriously. Agreed. Agreed, all right, I was

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Speaker 1: one number two Chris from Texas. Contrary to what everyone

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Speaker 1: seems to think, this team does have one gapping hole

443
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Speaker 1: backup running back I like Corey Grant and t J.

444
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Speaker 1: Yelden is serviceable and a third down role. But this

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Speaker 1: team is designed to be a power running team. If

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Speaker 1: Leonard Fete gets hurt, they no longer have a running

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Speaker 1: back who can fill that role, forcing them to throw

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Speaker 1: the ball much more than they would want. Where's Crispin.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for weeks from good Night Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, he's there. We've been talking for weeks about

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Speaker 1: the fact that you have to have a backup running

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Speaker 1: back the style of Leonard for Nett, because Leonard's running style,

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Speaker 1: at least my belief is, you won't get sixteen games

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Speaker 1: a year of a guy like that. His style is

455
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: so forceful, so brutal, so violent that he's going to

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Speaker 1: get nicked up, and you're going to play that way.

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Speaker 1: So you need a second back? Now, is you going

458
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Speaker 1: to be letter for? No? Leonard was the fourth overall

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Speaker 1: picked for a reason. But there are some big backs

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Speaker 1: in this draft, third, fourth, fifth round. That's not a surprise. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: that's a priority on Draft D I would think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think that that will be As you said,

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Speaker 1: the thing I wonder go into draft and I said

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Speaker 1: this a lot. I wonder how high they'll go with

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Speaker 1: it if if somebody falls him in the first or

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Speaker 1: second round. I can't see it in the first. I

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Speaker 1: do wonder about the second if if they're sitting in

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Speaker 1: that draft room and they see somebody special sitting there

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Speaker 1: as a running back the way this team plays, um,

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Speaker 1: I can't predict that they would do because I think

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Speaker 1: there are a couple of their needs that they would

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Speaker 1: go with. But it wouldn't shock you if all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden they had two backs where you were sitting

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Speaker 1: there on Day two of the draft and they did it,

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Speaker 1: and they're talking about it, and and they're laying out

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Speaker 1: their reasons of Hey, we're a running team, this is

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Speaker 1: what we do. It would be logical if they did.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be third to six round. But round

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Speaker 1: two you just wonder. Plus, let's remember t J. Yeldon

480
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Speaker 1: has one more year on his rookie deal. So and

481
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Speaker 1: with the salt recap situation this team has in the

482
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Speaker 1: priority they're going to have to place on defensive players. Sure,

483
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Speaker 1: you need a young back to groom for t J.

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Speaker 1: Yelden's eventual replacement. Absolutely, they know it's a whole they'll

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Speaker 1: fix it. Agreed, Agreed. Great from section one to two

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Speaker 1: and Jacksonville, I really think the Jaguars should pursue, does Bryant.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we ever have a team that needs

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Speaker 1: a legit number one receiver threat, it's us. He could

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Speaker 1: be that missing piece. Lure him in with the talk

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Speaker 1: of the rings. Yeah, I just don't see this on Brian,

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know I don't necessarily and that is

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Speaker 1: no thanks. I think if, if, if you can get

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Speaker 1: a guy like des Brian for a couple million dollars. Yeah, great, Um,

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Speaker 1: I think he would fit in terms of the swagger

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Speaker 1: and all that. I just don't think the premise of

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Speaker 1: the question is his team needs a number one receiver.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he's that anymore. War So never

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Speaker 1: say he's not right. So that's where I think the

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Speaker 1: argument falls short. Then the production in the last couple

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Speaker 1: of years doesn't match up to the name. Um, again,

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Speaker 1: if you could get it for a couple million, I

502
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Speaker 1: think so. But I can't imagine this scenario. And I

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Speaker 1: can't imagine this has what is legs for this franchise?

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Speaker 1: What is what is your buddy? Pete Priscoe always say

505
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Speaker 1: old slow, make too much dough, gotta go right, I

506
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Speaker 1: mean to me, and I laugh whenever he says that.

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Speaker 1: But this is I mean. Des Briant is older, he's

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Speaker 1: slower than he was, he makes too much money, He's

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Speaker 1: gonna go, I mean, And so Dallas said goodbye. And

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Speaker 1: I just don't see where he fits in this locker room. Well,

511
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys brought in Alan Hearns, who's now one of

512
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Speaker 1: their top one or two receivers, and let Dez Bryant go.

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Speaker 1: Now there was money factor in there. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: Des was sixteen point five million on their salary. If

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Speaker 1: you believe that the Cowboys believe they're better off with

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Speaker 1: Hearns and why don't you want this Briant, then it

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Speaker 1: stands to reason the other way coming back would make

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Speaker 1: sense for the Jazz. I don't think he's gonn When

519
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Speaker 1: the Jaguards play Dez Bryant and the Cowboys in London

520
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen, they couldn't stop him. I mean,

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00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: he was a one man wrecking crew anything. Anytime he

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Speaker 1: had the ball in his hands, he was getting the

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Speaker 1: extra yards, the first down, the touchdown. It's been since

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Speaker 1: then that he's been that kind of player. Maybe fifteen,

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Speaker 1: but sixteen and seventeen were not good seasons for him.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see why. I mean, I get it,

527
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Speaker 1: people want that star performer. They think, oh, Des Briant.

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Speaker 1: They don't see the last two years. They just see

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Speaker 1: the last time they saw him. Good. Great, Even because

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Speaker 1: he was no thanks, well, he could certainly fit into

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Speaker 1: this top five. I just don't think he would change

532
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: the dynamics of your receiving corps. No thanks, no thanks, Well,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna listen to Brian. Yes, eventually at my house,

534
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: they're gonna start listening to me because they aren't here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't want older players past their

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Speaker 1: prime who cost me a lot of money. It's a

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Speaker 1: game of replacement, not maintenance. I want young talent, not

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Speaker 1: old talent, especially when you're can out next year with

539
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: the defense capits you can't. Yea even I'm good. Alright,

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00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: we're good, John, because we're waiting for me. Said you

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Speaker 1: wrap it up, alright, folks, I hope you have a

542
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Speaker 1: great Tuesday for John Osian, Ashlands Olive and Joe Fortune

543
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Speaker 1: out of Max Huckman after Kavanaugh. That'll do it for

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Speaker 1: Jack's drivetime. See you next week as we get ready

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Speaker 1: for the NFL Draft. Ye